From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 00:05:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E40916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:05:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49A4243D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 76676 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2005 00:05:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 00:05:23 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:06:05 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Freek Nossin" Message-ID: <20050312210605.7534260c@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050312230349.1C39F801175C@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> References: <20050312194330.30b24cab@ale.varnet.bsd> <20050312230349.1C39F801175C@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Jerry McAllister' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:05:28 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:04:06 +0100 "Freek Nossin" wrote: > > > Then I used bsdlabel to create a label on ad0s1 by typing: > > > > > > #bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > > > > > And following the handbook, my next command was: > > > > > > #bsdlabel -e ad0s1 > > > > > > Now I wrote in the text editor (I admit, after 4 tries and a lot > > > of reading...): > > > > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > 8 partitions: > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > part, don't e: 20820177 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > > > > > > > > > now I wanted to use newfs to create a file system on ad0s1e, but > > > it could not. My problem is illustrated by my ls output: > > > > > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > > > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > > > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > > > bsdlabel -e didn't create a new partition, although the output of > > > bsdlabel ad0s1 is: > > > > > > pcwin451# disklabel ad0s1 > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > 8 partitions: > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > part, don't > > > edit > > > e: 20820161 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > > > > > > How can this be? (and how do I fix it...?) > > > > > > Thanks for your help already so far > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > In my second disk I have free space between two slices so I tried > > the procedure by myself. > > > > When I did a 'bsdlabel -w /dev/adXsY' (without editing them) I ended > > with a partition labeled 'a', and it instantly appeared in '/dev/'. > > Then I did what you have done ('bsdlabel -e ') and it also > > appeared in'/dev'. > > > > I do not know about this, but maybe this helps: > > > > 1) Try with only 'bsdlabel -w '. The partition should appear > > as'a'. > > > > 2) If the partition does not appear in '/dev/' then you can > > reinitialize the ATA channel (0 or 1, I think your disk is in 0) > > your disk is in, with 'atacontrol reinit '. For a list of > > ATA channels with the devices do 'atacontrol list'. > > > > ***WARNING***: do ***NOT*** 'detach' and 'attach' the channel your > > device your running hard disk (that contain the FreeBSD you are > > running) is connected to (but you can safely 'reinit' it). A > > 'detach' removes the disk and slices/partitions from the kernel and > > powers down the devices in that channel, so FreeBSD will stall when > > it tries to read/write on its partitions ('/', '/usr', etc.). I > > could detach and atach it once (in less than 5 seconds), but the > > other time it crashed my machine (I had to rewrite this mail three > > times, because I was experimenting with 'atacontrol'). It is more > > safe to reboot the machine. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ale > > > Thank, but unfortunately it dit not help > > pcwin451# atacontrol reinit 0 > Master: ad0 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 > Slave: no device present > > pcwin451# bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, Have you tried to reinitialize the ata channel before changing the partitions? Try unmounting '/dev' and mounting it again (forcing it with '-f'). If the problem persist, the only alternative is to reboot. Do you have a dynamic IP? If that is the case it is possible to add a crontab entry that executes a script on each system startup. The script can send you an e-mail to you using the internal sendmail (must be enabled for that) relay so it will contain the IP of your server (in the complete headers). Alternatively the script can upload a file containing the output of 'ifconfig' to an FTP site. If you are interested you can ask me for more information. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 00:13:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F242516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595D343D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:13:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2D0Dpb80821 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:13:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:13:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1191182269.20050312123249@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: Where is the default system-wide configuration file for qpopper? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:13:44 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > I give up: Where is the default system-wide configuration file for > qpopper? Neither the documentation nor the official Web site ever > specifically identifies it, and even googling for it hasn't helped. > What's the exact path (and the format of entries inside, as the > documentation isn't very clear about that, either)? what does strings qpopper say? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 00:16:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52CF16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E47D43D4C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:16:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 16FCA1C005F6 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:16:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F38AD1C005F4 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:16:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050313001617997.F38AD1C005F4@mwinf0912.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:16:17 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1168039013.20050313011617@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1191182269.20050312123249@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Where is the default system-wide configuration file for qpopper? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:16:19 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > what does strings qpopper say? I didn't try it. I added an -f option to the command line in inet.conf and that seemed to work. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 00:28:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8DE16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:28:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1433143D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:28:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 70480 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2005 00:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 00:28:56 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:29:39 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Alejandro Pulver Message-ID: <20050312212939.648997bd@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050312210605.7534260c@ale.varnet.bsd> References: <20050312194330.30b24cab@ale.varnet.bsd> <20050312230349.1C39F801175C@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> <20050312210605.7534260c@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Freek Nossin cc: 'Jerry McAllister' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:28:58 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:06:05 -0300 Alejandro Pulver wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:04:06 +0100 > "Freek Nossin" wrote: > > > > Then I used bsdlabel to create a label on ad0s1 by typing: > > > > > > > > #bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > > > > > > > And following the handbook, my next command was: > > > > > > > > #bsdlabel -e ad0s1 > > > > > > > > Now I wrote in the text editor (I admit, after 4 tries and a lot > > > > of reading...): > > > > > > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > > 8 partitions: > > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > > part, don't e: 20820177 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 > > > > 32776 > > > > > > > > > > > > now I wanted to use newfs to create a file system on ad0s1e, but > > > > it could not. My problem is illustrated by my ls output: > > > > > > > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > > > > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > > > > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > > > > > bsdlabel -e didn't create a new partition, although the output > > > > of bsdlabel ad0s1 is: > > > > > > > > pcwin451# disklabel ad0s1 > > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > > 8 partitions: > > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > > part, don't > > > > edit > > > > e: 20820161 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > > > > > > > > How can this be? (and how do I fix it...?) > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help already so far > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > In my second disk I have free space between two slices so I tried > > > the procedure by myself. > > > > > > When I did a 'bsdlabel -w /dev/adXsY' (without editing them) I > > > ended with a partition labeled 'a', and it instantly appeared in > > > '/dev/'. Then I did what you have done ('bsdlabel -e ') and > > > it also appeared in'/dev'. > > > > > > I do not know about this, but maybe this helps: > > > > > > 1) Try with only 'bsdlabel -w '. The partition should > > > appear as'a'. > > > > > > 2) If the partition does not appear in '/dev/' then you can > > > reinitialize the ATA channel (0 or 1, I think your disk is in 0) > > > your disk is in, with 'atacontrol reinit '. For a list of > > > ATA channels with the devices do 'atacontrol list'. > > > > > > ***WARNING***: do ***NOT*** 'detach' and 'attach' the channel your > > > device your running hard disk (that contain the FreeBSD you are > > > running) is connected to (but you can safely 'reinit' it). A > > > 'detach' removes the disk and slices/partitions from the kernel > > > and powers down the devices in that channel, so FreeBSD will stall > > > when it tries to read/write on its partitions ('/', '/usr', etc.). > > > I could detach and atach it once (in less than 5 seconds), but the > > > other time it crashed my machine (I had to rewrite this mail three > > > times, because I was experimenting with 'atacontrol'). It is more > > > safe to reboot the machine. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Ale > > > > > > Thank, but unfortunately it dit not help > > > > pcwin451# atacontrol reinit 0 > > Master: ad0 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 > > Slave: no device present > > > > pcwin451# bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello, > > Have you tried to reinitialize the ata channel before changing the > partitions? > Sorry, I mean after. > Try unmounting '/dev' and mounting it again (forcing it with '-f'). > > If the problem persist, the only alternative is to reboot. Do you have > a dynamic IP? If that is the case it is possible to add a crontab > entry that executes a script on each system startup. The script can > send you an e-mail to you using the internal sendmail (must be enabled > for that) relay so it will contain the IP of your server (in the > complete headers). Alternatively the script can upload a file > containing the output of 'ifconfig' to an FTP site. > > If you are interested you can ask me for more information. > > Best Regards, > Ale > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 00:55:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EE116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MyBox.BoxChat.net (boxchat.net [70.182.152.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92EC43D5E for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:55:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from junk@boxchat.net) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (MyBox.BoxChat.net [192.168.1.120]) by MyBox.BoxChat.net (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2D0t7Kv001030 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:55:07 -0600 Message-ID: <42338F6B.50104@boxchat.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:55:07 -0600 From: junk User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: buffer limit in cron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:55:02 -0000 I have a script that works fine from command line. But when I run it from cron , its not displaying all the info. Looks like cron is limiting the char length. example from script ran by cron: root 54313 0.0 0.2 1024 720 ?? S 3:20PM 0:00.00 cron: running jo example from script ran by command line: root 54313 0.0 0.2 1024 720 ?? S 3:20PM 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) Any way to make cron use more buffer? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 01:25:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D617A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:25:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B52C843D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Mar 2005 01:25:32 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 02:25:32 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:25:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050312004232.97904.qmail@web14929.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050312004232.97904.qmail@web14929.mail.yahoo.com> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5593578.LqVZ6cNBaR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503130225.25473@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Paulo Roberto Subject: Re: minicom and ugen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:25:35 -0000 --nextPart5593578.LqVZ6cNBaR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 12. M=E4rz 2005 01:42 schrieb Paulo Roberto: > Hello Emanuel, > > THanks for your help. My usbdevs -v: > > Controller /dev/usb0: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb1: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 addr 3: full speed, power 90 mA, config 1, USB <-> > Serial(0x6001), FTDI(0x0403), rev 4.00 This needs the uftdi (and ucom) device. If you can't access /dev/ucom0 afte= r=20 loading/compiling the two devices then it's probably a newer version and yo= u=20 can try to contact the author of the code. Best regards, =2DHarry --nextPart5593578.LqVZ6cNBaR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCM5aFBylq0S4AzzwRAuinAJ9jE/HwDMp3GjlKD3XXm+pNl36ywwCfZija zPERwZ1a5G6GleCtnGg9N08= =O7IY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5593578.LqVZ6cNBaR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 02:13:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0DC16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:13:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2980943D49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:13:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a208.otenet.gr [212.205.215.208]) j2D2DFaM030355; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:13:16 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2D2DWJR094748; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:13:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2D2DWHT094747; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:13:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:13:32 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ola Theander Message-ID: <20050313021330.GA81926@gothmog.gr> Mail-Followup-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313014936.TXVL23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313014936.TXVL23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused about connection between an option in rc.conf and the associated action? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:13:39 -0000 # Redirected from freebsd-newbies to freebsd-questions. # Please do not post technical questions to freebsd-newbies. # This is what freebsd-questions is for. Followups set. On 2005-03-13 02:49, Ola Theander wrote: > Dear subscribers > > I'm slightly confused about enabling an option in rc.conf and the associated > action? E.g. say that I enable gateway_enable="YES" or maybe > dhcpd_enable="YES", how does FreeBSD associate this simple line to the > associated action? I've had a theory that adding e.g. test_enable="YES" to > rc.conf would trigger the execution of the file /etc/rc.d/test.sh at boot > time but it seems like this isn't how it's done. The /etc/rc script is the first "rc script" that runs. This is the one that takes care of running all the rest of the rc stuff. In pre-5.X versions of FreeBSD, the /etc/rc script called a predefined set of /etc/rc.* scripts at specific points during the startup process, delegating pieces of the work to them. In 5.3-RELEASE and later versions of FreeBSD, there is a collection of small /etc/rc.d/* scripts, that are called by /etc/rc instead of the older /etc/rc.* stuff. The specific order these scripts will have is determined at boot time, by the /sbin/rcorder utility. Each script, either one of the older /etc/rc.* stuff or the newer /etc/rc.d/* scripts, slurps in /etc/rc.conf and then checks what parts of the script are enabled to run. It is the responsibility of the specific script to check the proper rc.conf variables and act accordingly. A small example of an rc script that checks a variable and modifies its own behavior is /etc/rc.d/tmp, which contains (among other stuff): load_rc_config $name # If we do not have a writable /tmp, create a memory # filesystem for /tmp. If /tmp is a symlink (e.g. to /var/tmp, # then it should already be writable). # case "${tmpmfs}" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) ... Thus, it's not /etc/rc that checks the "tmpfs" variable from rc.conf, but the specific script that is interested in its value. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 02:27:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:27:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DEEC43D53 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.171.3.242 with login) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 02:27:23 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:27:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503121827.21703.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: Aperez Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:27:24 -0000 On Saturday 12 March 2005 09:38 am, Aperez wrote: > Hello everybdody > > I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that > interview Linus mentioned the following: > > "On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of > having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If > you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you > get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get > NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about > different things." > > I dont want to critize what Linus stated above. However, I find a > very valid point when he says that every BSD version team is woking > in different directions. > > My question is this: > > Why not all three teams work together for just one BSD version? > > At the moment there are three groups of developers and users working > in the same issues. I think if we should all work together and create > well rounded BSD version for us users and corporate clients. Imagine > a BSD version that is portable (NetBSD), that is very secured > (OpenBSD) and that is a good Destop solution (FreeBSD). The way I look at it is this (these are the circumstances which matter to me - YMMV). When I want to install BSD on embedded hardware or Apple hardware, I use NetBSD. When I want to install BSD on a box to use as a dedicated firewall, network logging/snort machine, or other security apparatus, I use OpenBSD. When I want to install BSD on a box to use as a server or a desktop/workstation, I install FreeBSD. When I want to use Linux as a desktop (I haven't installed any Linux servers for a while now), I use Slackware. If I recommend a beginner Linux distro to a newbie, it's usually Mandrake or SuSE. If I recommend an enterprise Linux distro, it's usually RedHat. If I recommend a Linux distro that is for more experienced users, I'd recommend Debian, Gentoo or (my personal preference) Slackware. However, if any of those people are comfortable with *nix but are looking for something different, like maybe they would appreciate an OS developed cohesively, rather than a kernel with various distros which add any of a variety of userland tools, I recommend FreeBSD. If they find they like it, then I tell them about the more specialized flavors. Linus is free to disagree with the direction BSD has taken over the years. However, I'm a bit surprised he's knocking the forking of code. Isn't that an inherent strength of open source? He's free to develop in his own manner, which has proven to be successful for his particular concept, but it's strength is that it's chaotic and allows a variety of userland configurations and setups. BSD is more disciplined but rigid in its choice of userland tools, which is its strength. The issue of code forking is ancillary, and the history is somewhat political, but the teams all share code and concepts. I'm not sure why this is a problem for anyone. However, if you think, as an example, Theo de Raadt should give up OpenBSD and come back to develop for FreeBSD, then feel free to drop him an email, as well as the core FreeBSD team. Oh, and make sure to let us know how it goes ;) - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 03:04:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED59A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:04:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7329143D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chisoy@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1173899wri for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:04:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sXpcIKdQ4nx5nL6eIog+/ugJf/ryoB1P1o7Wo4K88WJ8YPSMdQIwvTSQY3ZZgmpEpVkaQh7P/0BzbjZCzUfYwfg2u6qQ3IF3P5AG0Jmx1LWNCIGmCSbPQxbm5vtOYenKUlNmVP0zZSR62XmoxEwkC2XCxe6t/epmZT1X4wzRJ2U= Received: by 10.54.25.18 with SMTP id 18mr946036wry; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.48.2 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:04:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:04:24 -0800 From: Cheezy Vines To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cheezy Vines List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:04:25 -0000 Hello everyone! I have a FreeBSD-4.10 machine and a newly connected DSL with static ip address. The DSL connection setup uses an ADSL modem (SMC7901BRA) which has 1 connection to my phone line and 1 connection to my LAN card using UTP cable. In Windows XP setup, the process of setting up Internet is just as easy as configuring the TCP/IP prpoerties with the static ip address given to me and other details such as gateway, dns, subnet mask etc. My machine has a dual-boot WinXP and FreeBSD-4.10. As I've said above, I can easily connect to the Internet using the WinXP. But, I want to try FreeBSD to connect to the Internet, but it doesn't work. Here's what I did to test if I can connect to Internet via DSL using FreeBSD: 1. Reboot or boot to FreeBSD-4.10 2. Login as root 3. /stand/sysinstall to assign IP address, gateway, and dns 4. Reboot machine to make sure new IP settings take effect 5. Do an ifconfig and see that the IP settings are correct 6. I can ping my own IP address (static IP address of the DSL assigned by my ISP) 7. When I try to ping the ISP's given gateway, I receive "ping to: Host is down". 8. Seeing the modem status, the "LAN" and "SYNC" signals are up but the "DATA" is off. I have tried searching the net with FreeBSD+DSL but all I can read is about "PPPoE" which requires a "username" and "password" which I don't have. My DSL account is an "always on" account with a static IP address and I guess it doesnt have a username/password for connection to the ISP. Does FreeBSD need to detect my DSL modem if it is connected to the NIC using a UTP cable connected to the modem? Here's my setup: [DSL modem]<--------->[DSL Provider] (provides static IP address) | | | [FreeBSD's LAN card] Does anybody has an experience connecting FreeBSD to a DSL with a static IP address and has similar setup above? Actually my real purpose is to use FreeBSD as LAN gateway using the DSL connection. But I wanna try first connecting the FreeBSD machine as a stand-alone PC which uses the simple setup above. If this setup works, the gateeway setup will surely work too. Thank you very much! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 03:09:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A31E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:09:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D69743D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:09:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2360E7 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:09:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03594-03 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:09:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5233460E4 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:09:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:09:47 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:09:52 -0000 Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that freed up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file system. Here's what she looks like via fdisk: Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 156296385 sectors (76316MB) Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the existing system? Sorry for the formatting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 03:33:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CE416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:33:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8C143D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2D3XF0V027541 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:33:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:42:02 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7ae53963050311004747c48d5d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7ae53963050311004747c48d5d@mail.gmail.com> (from phtung@gmail.com on Fri Mar 11 03:47:27 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110685322l.7004l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: [Realplay10GOLD] Error: ELF binary type "0" not known X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:33:22 -0000 On 03/11/05 03:47:27, P.H.Tung wrote: > I successfully installed Realplayer10GOLD on FreeBSD released 5.3 > When I run realplay from console, I got following error: > ELF binary type "0" not known. > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" > unexpected >=20 > What does it means? any advises? >=20 > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ Sounds like a compiler error? Check man brandelf. $ brandelf -l known ELF types are: FreeBSD(9) Linux(3) Solaris(6) SVR4(0) You could try to rebrand it to type 9. as root: brandelf -f 9 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin But the syntax error, how would that get there? Try to make reinstall =20 after a make distclean if branding fails.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:27:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC6816A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:27:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C747243D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:27:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xmisoy@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1353061rna for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:27:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=AJz4OGc6zKuLRQJbT3qVJeIaGMqPJDXw13eTF8B5w5TUwDrl5cdXDMBXFzRXbQWbnZmE0E/S70zOCd2Y4JCDsCAE+3RfbPsisyIfdeXcFPnE96tN+MtaNsNTtHAAikw96w6xJNSFIlZRjuGwhtH6VeJN/Gw9Dgvq8T0dPXP16Nc= Received: by 10.38.24.17 with SMTP id 17mr3959078rnx; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.44 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:27:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36f5bbba05031219277b6e539c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:27:51 -0800 From: "Edwin D. Vinas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: Subject: Fwd: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edwin D. Vinas" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:27:55 -0000 Hello everyone! I have a FreeBSD-4.10 machine and a newly connected DSL with static ip address. The DSL connection setup uses an ADSL modem (SMC7901BRA) which has 1 connection to my phone line and 1 connection to my LAN card using UTP cable. In Windows XP setup, the process of setting up Internet is just as easy as configuring the TCP/IP prpoerties with the static ip address given to me and other details such as gateway, dns, subnet mask etc. My machine has a dual-boot WinXP and FreeBSD-4.10. As I've said above, I can easily connect to the Internet using the WinXP. But, I want to try FreeBSD to connect to the Internet, but it doesn't work. Here's what I did to test if I can connect to Internet via DSL using FreeBS= D: 1. Reboot or boot to FreeBSD-4.10 2. Login as root 3. /stand/sysinstall to assign IP address, gateway, and dns 4. Reboot machine to make sure new IP settings take effect 5. Do an ifconfig and see that the IP settings are correct 6. I can ping my own IP address (static IP address of the DSL assigned by my ISP) 7. When I try to ping the ISP's given gateway, I receive "ping to: Host is down". 8. Seeing the modem status, the "LAN" and "SYNC" signals are up but the "DATA" is off. I have tried searching the net with FreeBSD+DSL but all I can read is about "PPPoE" which requires a "username" and "password" which I don't have. My DSL account is an "always on" account with a static IP address and I guess it doesnt have a username/password for connection to the ISP. Does FreeBSD need to detect my DSL modem if it is connected to the NIC using a UTP cable connected to the modem? Here's my setup: [DSL modem]<--------->[DSL Provider] (provides static IP address) | | | [FreeBSD's LAN card] Here's the modem's technical description: https://secure.quicksolve.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3D&products= _id=3D2991 http://sg.hardwarezone.com/priceguide/info.php?cid=3D113&id=3D11104 Does anybody has an experience connecting FreeBSD to a DSL with a static IP address and has similar setup above? Actually my real purpose is to use FreeBSD as LAN gateway using the DSL connection. But I wanna try first connecting the FreeBSD machine as a stand-alone PC which uses the simple setup above. If this setup works, the gateeway setup will surely work too. Thank you very much! --=20 -- Edwin D. Vi=F1as http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:30:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E8616A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3A43D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:30:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C71BB8568A; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:00:40 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:00:40 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Chris Message-ID: <20050313043040.GA876@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:30:44 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 12 March 2005 at 21:09:47 -0600, Chris wrote: > Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that freed > up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file system. > > Here's what she looks like via fdisk: > > Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition > Editor > DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 156296385 sectors (76316MB) > > Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype > > 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 > 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 > 156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 > > > So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the > existing system? That depends on what you want to do with the space. It would be relatively complicated (but not impossible) to merge it into an existing file system. If you just want to create a another file system, just create a new partition in the partition editor, set it to tye 165, then in the label editor create one (or just possibly more than one) file system. Both here and in the label editor, use the W command to actually write the stuff to disk. > Sorry for the formatting Looks fine to me. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCM8HwIubykFB6QiMRAnYBAJ4suqLTujt0+NMwhDMp2YioRnwdMgCdEpd3 gcTtl/jdD7wmNufDNmk4T6g= =hCwE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AF816A4CF; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8235643D39; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C953B60E8; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:35:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71926-06; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:35:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB27860D8; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:35:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4233C32A.8030604@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:35:54 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> <20050313043040.GA876@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313043040.GA876@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:35:59 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Saturday, 12 March 2005 at 21:09:47 -0600, Chris wrote: > > >>Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that freed >>up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file system. >> >>Here's what she looks like via fdisk: >> >>Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition >>Editor >>DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 156296385 sectors (76316MB) >> >>Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype >> >> 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 >> 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 >>156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 >> >> >>So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the >>existing system? >> >> > >That depends on what you want to do with the space. It would be >relatively complicated (but not impossible) to merge it into an >existing file system. If you just want to create a another file >system, just create a new partition in the partition editor, set it to >tye 165, then in the label editor create one (or just possibly more >than one) file system. Both here and in the label editor, use the W >command to actually write the stuff to disk. > > > >>Sorry for the formatting >> >> > >Looks fine to me. > >Greg > > I assume doing this while in single user mode. Otherwise I am getting an error: unable to write to disk. But as you mentioned,. I would prefer to somehow merge it into the current FBSD file system. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:42:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DBA16A4CF; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:42:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4244243D39; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:42:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2D4gTNU030709; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:42:29 GMT Message-ID: <4233C5FB.8070805@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:47:55 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> <20050313043040.GA876@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4233C32A.8030604@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4233C32A.8030604@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:42:39 -0000 Chris wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 12 March 2005 at 21:09:47 -0600, Chris wrote: >> >> >>> Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that >>> freed >>> up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file >>> system. >>> >>> Here's what she looks like via fdisk: >>> >>> Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition >>> Editor >>> DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 156296385 sectors >>> (76316MB) >>> >>> Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype >>> >>> 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 >>> 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 >>> 156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 >>> >>> >>> So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the >>> existing system? >>> >> >> >> That depends on what you want to do with the space. It would be >> relatively complicated (but not impossible) to merge it into an >> existing file system. If you just want to create a another file >> system, just create a new partition in the partition editor, set it to >> tye 165, then in the label editor create one (or just possibly more >> than one) file system. Both here and in the label editor, use the W >> command to actually write the stuff to disk. >> >> >> >>> Sorry for the formatting >>> >> >> >> Looks fine to me. >> >> Greg >> >> > I assume doing this while in single user mode. Otherwise I am getting an > error: unable to write to disk. > But as you mentioned,. I would prefer to somehow merge it into the > current FBSD file system. > > > Chris I think growfs(8) will do what your after. However if it all goes wrong and your data implodes.... ;) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C3216A4D0 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:45:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B043D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2D4job81577; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:45:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Cheezy Vines" , Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:45:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: RE: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ipaddress X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:45:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Cheezy Vines > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:04 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static > ipaddress > > > Hello everyone! > > I have a FreeBSD-4.10 machine and a newly connected DSL with static ip > address. The DSL connection setup uses an ADSL modem (SMC7901BRA) > which has 1 connection to my phone line and 1 connection to my LAN > card using UTP cable. In Windows XP setup, the process of setting up > Internet is just as easy as configuring the TCP/IP prpoerties with the > static ip address given to me and other details such as gateway, dns, > subnet mask etc. > If that is the kind of DSL connection you have then in FreeBSD it is just as easy. > My machine has a dual-boot WinXP and FreeBSD-4.10. As I've said above, > I can easily connect to the Internet using the WinXP. But, I want to > try FreeBSD to connect to the Internet, but it doesn't work. > > Here's what I did to test if I can connect to Internet via DSL > using FreeBSD: > 1. Reboot or boot to FreeBSD-4.10 > 2. Login as root > 3. /stand/sysinstall to assign IP address, gateway, and dns > 4. Reboot machine to make sure new IP settings take effect > 5. Do an ifconfig and see that the IP settings are correct > 6. I can ping my own IP address (static IP address of the DSL assigned > by my ISP) > 7. When I try to ping the ISP's given gateway, I receive "ping to: > Host is down". > 8. Seeing the modem status, the "LAN" and "SYNC" signals are up but > the "DATA" is off. > That doesen't help us because the manual for this DSL router/modem is not online, we can't know what this light does. Have you set your default gateway IP address? Please post the contents of your /etc/rc.conf Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 04:54:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CB816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:54:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiba.meibin.jp (shiba.meibin.jp [211.18.246.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FAB043D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 3258 invoked by uid 1011); 13 Mar 2005 04:53:58 -0000 Received: from 192.168.10.8 by shiba.meibin.jp (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/705. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-2.8/3.0):. 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Vinas" In-Reply-To: <36f5bbba05031219277b6e539c@mail.gmail.com> References: <36f5bbba05031219277b6e539c@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20050313134936.CDED.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:54:15 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:27:51 -0800 "Edwin D. Vinas" spake thus: > Hello everyone! > > I have a FreeBSD-4.10 machine and a newly connected DSL with static ip > address. The DSL connection setup uses an ADSL modem (SMC7901BRA) > which has 1 connection to my phone line and 1 connection to my LAN > card using UTP cable. In Windows XP setup, the process of setting up > Internet is just as easy as configuring the TCP/IP prpoerties with the > static ip address given to me and other details such as gateway, dns, > subnet mask etc. > > My machine has a dual-boot WinXP and FreeBSD-4.10. As I've said above, > I can easily connect to the Internet using the WinXP. But, I want to > try FreeBSD to connect to the Internet, but it doesn't work. > > Here's what I did to test if I can connect to Internet via DSL using FreeBSD: > 1. Reboot or boot to FreeBSD-4.10 > 2. Login as root > 3. /stand/sysinstall to assign IP address, gateway, and dns > 4. Reboot machine to make sure new IP settings take effect > 5. Do an ifconfig and see that the IP settings are correct > 6. I can ping my own IP address (static IP address of the DSL assigned > by my ISP) > 7. When I try to ping the ISP's given gateway, I receive "ping to: > Host is down". > 8. Seeing the modem status, the "LAN" and "SYNC" signals are up but > the "DATA" is off. > > I have tried searching the net with FreeBSD+DSL but all I can read is > about "PPPoE" which requires a "username" and "password" which I don't > have. My DSL account is an "always on" account with a static IP > address and I guess it doesnt have a username/password for connection > to the ISP. > > Does FreeBSD need to detect my DSL modem if it is connected to the NIC > using a UTP cable connected to the modem? Here's my setup: > > [DSL modem]<--------->[DSL Provider] (provides static IP address) > | > | > | > [FreeBSD's LAN card] > > Here's the modem's technical description: > https://secure.quicksolve.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=2991 > http://sg.hardwarezone.com/priceguide/info.php?cid=113&id=11104 > > Does anybody has an experience connecting FreeBSD to a DSL with a > static IP address and has similar setup above? > > Actually my real purpose is to use FreeBSD as LAN gateway using the > DSL connection. But I wanna try first connecting the FreeBSD machine > as a stand-alone PC which uses the simple setup above. If this setup > works, the gateeway setup will surely work too. > > Thank you very much! > Just out of curiosity did your ISP give you a username and passwd ? Did your ISP provide the DSL Modem ? Certainly posting the rc.conf of your freebsd machine will help as might the output of netstat -rn thanks -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 05:03:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3022B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:03:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7057E43D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2D53Kcm066521 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:03:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id j2D53Ju6066520 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:03:19 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050313050319.GA66503@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: need help: i lost my ghostscript shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:03:22 -0000 Well, people, I did it; I didn't backup my script that renders PostScript on my HP-500 printer. I t was in /usr/libexec, and while it was backed up on two other servers. But I upgraded to 5.3 on both. So lost. 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Thanks ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 06:01:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A110116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:01:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1593D43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:01:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2D5xSZ1094604; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:59:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost)j2D5xSST094601; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:59:28 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:59:28 +0000 (GMT) From: doug To: Cheezy Vines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:01:57 -0000 If your ISP does not use PPPoE it is really quite simple. I included my laptop rc.conf just to show it plays no part: hostname="mneme.boltsys.com" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" I take this system around to a site using cable, dsl, my office where I connect via a wireless network and, under duress dial-up. For that reason I boot up and then connect. Every where except for the office that is as simple as: dhclient ep0 as that the antique NIC I use. Both the cable modem and the DSL modem I connect to provide DHCP on the inside. On the outside, the cable modem seems to get a fixed IP from its network. My DSL connection uses 192.168.0 addresses but all you have to do is connect to the modem as a gateway. My wireless setup: ifconfig wi0 wep wepkey 0x... dhclient wi0 If your modem has a fixed IP adding defaultrouter="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" ifconfig_nic0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0" or ifconfig_nic0="DHCP" to rc.conf should be all you need. You can of course do this manually by: ifconfig nic0 add inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0 route add default xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I would then first try to ping an IP address and then a host name. If your ISPs DNS really is bad, you can change the hostname to localhost to avoid all the dns timeouts. If it all works, netstat -nr will have a line something like: Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.23.3 UGS 0 12052 wi0 I hope this helps On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Cheezy Vines wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I have a FreeBSD-4.10 machine and a newly connected DSL with static ip > address. The DSL connection setup uses an ADSL modem (SMC7901BRA) > which has 1 connection to my phone line and 1 connection to my LAN > card using UTP cable. In Windows XP setup, the process of setting up > Internet is just as easy as configuring the TCP/IP prpoerties with the > static ip address given to me and other details such as gateway, dns, > subnet mask etc. > > My machine has a dual-boot WinXP and FreeBSD-4.10. As I've said above, > I can easily connect to the Internet using the WinXP. But, I want to > try FreeBSD to connect to the Internet, but it doesn't work. > > Here's what I did to test if I can connect to Internet via DSL using FreeBSD: > 1. Reboot or boot to FreeBSD-4.10 > 2. Login as root > 3. /stand/sysinstall to assign IP address, gateway, and dns > 4. Reboot machine to make sure new IP settings take effect > 5. Do an ifconfig and see that the IP settings are correct > 6. I can ping my own IP address (static IP address of the DSL assigned > by my ISP) > 7. When I try to ping the ISP's given gateway, I receive "ping to: > Host is down". > 8. Seeing the modem status, the "LAN" and "SYNC" signals are up but > the "DATA" is off. > > I have tried searching the net with FreeBSD+DSL but all I can read is > about "PPPoE" which requires a "username" and "password" which I don't > have. My DSL account is an "always on" account with a static IP > address and I guess it doesnt have a username/password for connection > to the ISP. > > Does FreeBSD need to detect my DSL modem if it is connected to the NIC > using a UTP cable connected to the modem? Here's my setup: > > [DSL modem]<--------->[DSL Provider] (provides static IP address) > | > | > | > [FreeBSD's LAN card] > > Does anybody has an experience connecting FreeBSD to a DSL with a > static IP address and has similar setup above? > > Actually my real purpose is to use FreeBSD as LAN gateway using the > DSL connection. But I wanna try first connecting the FreeBSD machine > as a stand-alone PC which uses the simple setup above. If this setup > works, the gateeway setup will surely work too. > > Thank you very much! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 06:59:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F17943D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [10.0.0.25] ([68.236.212.14])0.04 <0IDA005CL3EU6BE0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:59:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:59:44 -0500 From: bsdzz In-reply-to: <42305572.50506@fusemail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <4233E4E0.5020904@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <42305572.50506@fusemail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) Subject: Decent HTML editor? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:59:19 -0000 Is there a simple HTML editor that is known to be pretty good in the ports tree? I've been using Abiword for wordprocessing, and it has a "Save as HTML" feature which I plan to try. I was just curious if there was something else I should try using. I'm not using OpenOffice, as it seems a little bloated lately. My desktop is Fluxbox, though I have Gnome installed. Maybe KDE has a really good one? I prefer to keep my system lean if possible (its a P3-650 laptop). thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 07:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F7D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:47:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406E043D5F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2D7llUQ017984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:47:48 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2D7lknq017982 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:47:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:47:46 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: FreeBSD Mailing list Message-ID: <20050313074746.GA17624@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C Subject: Synaptics Touchpad driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:47:50 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems that FreeBSD 5.3 now has support in the kernel for the synaptics touchpad that my laptop has. Right now it's just running as a normal mouse, it looks like the support is disabled by default. In isa/psm.c, I can see the synaptics support in there, but it's disabled unless hw.psm.synaptics_support is set to 1. My question is how do I set it to one? It's setup as a TUNABLE_INT, but there is no sysctl for it. Does it only appear on boot? --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCM/AibTXoRwEYo9IRAgEmAJ9jcoJs5ZMLhskHovIpEH2qn1qTlgCfSnaZ wHL+/eLc23ZEBiL+0iccxYc= =Xzuh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 07:51:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFEB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:51:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 925E943D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:51:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@64.171.3.242 with login) by smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 07:51:04 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:51:02 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <42305572.50506@fusemail.com> <4233E4E0.5020904@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4233E4E0.5020904@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503122351.03483.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: bsdzz Subject: Re: Decent HTML editor? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:51:05 -0000 On Saturday 12 March 2005 10:59 pm, bsdzz wrote: > Is there a simple HTML editor that is known to be pretty good in the > ports tree? > > I've been using Abiword for wordprocessing, and it has a "Save as > HTML" feature which I plan to try. I was just curious if there was > something else I should try using. I'm not using OpenOffice, as it > seems a little bloated lately. My desktop is Fluxbox, though I have > Gnome installed. Maybe KDE has a really good one? I prefer to keep > my system lean if possible (its a P3-650 laptop). Are you talking about an HTML generator? As for editing pretty much any web code, I prefer vim with syntax highlighting, then I use Firefox with HTML Tidy to validate. I know, that's pretty old school (I used to use Tidy with other tools for validation, and sometimes still do), but it's simple and efficient and I can use it pretty much anywhere. I've never been happy with any HTML generator, so I'm not too familiar with all the varieties - Dreamweaver is the only one I personally know to be decent, though it's commercial and not ported to *BSD. Quanta (now part of kdewebdev) is a pretty decent gui web development tool by KDE, have used it on occasion, though from what I gather it's more useful if you have a large project and/or use something besides flat HTML, like php. If you just need simple, flat HTML and you really don't want to learn how to code it yourself, you might want to try Amaya. /usr/ports/www/amaya - http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ I haven't done more than play around with it, but the code should at least be better than most office-suite generators, as it's made by w3c. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 08:10:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6616A4CE; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB62443D1F; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:10:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E8B5597; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11793-02; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D643F5564; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050313081003.D643F5564@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2005-02-20 - 2005-03-12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:10:17 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 08:17:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E9316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:17:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0892643D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:17:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2D8H1UQ018219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:17:01 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2D8Gxm4018217; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:16:59 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:16:59 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20050313081659.GA18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050301224201.GC7469@math.jussieu.fr> <20050302090009.R23556@mail.rot-1.de> <20050302115706.GL15179@math.jussieu.fr> <20050303210753.GM30896@alzatex.com> <20050304124123.GA12225@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050304124123.GA12225@math.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Stevan Tiefert cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw or pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:17:06 -0000 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:41:23PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > Le 03/03/2005 ? 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a ?crit > > > Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system (sometim= e on > > > hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First match first us= e. And > > > the pf use entire rules is very strange for me (I known I can use ?qu= ick? > > > but....well it's not the philosophy I think). > >=20 > > I like first match better too, but I think pf is sufficiently better > > that I just use it with quick over ipfw. > >=20 >=20 > Better on what ? More security features like srubbing packets. This can look for errors like bad tcp flag combinations that some port scanners might use. Also, it is just more flexible by using tables for matches that can even be updated dynamically. ipf and ipfw would require a completely new rule to change the firewall. Tables can be used to, say, keep track of a blacklist of ip address like the ones that keep trying to log into ssh accounts on my server that don't exists. pf also has built-in passive os fingerprinting if you think that might be useful. Read through the pf faq on openbsd.org. >=20 > I really like to known. And my question is not a troll or something like > that. >=20 > Regards >=20 >=20 > -- > Albert SHIH > Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) > U.F.R. de Mathematiques. > Heure local/Local time: > Fri Mar 4 13:40:29 CET 2005 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCM/b7bTXoRwEYo9IRAmIbAJwI4JQQR8KcC8xMYke4npcW/ZLRvgCeJaA4 1HgUMNWcdwE4J2QFiC976ag= =VfUa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 08:27:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:27:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F15A43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2D8QuUQ018426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:26:57 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2D8QuvM018424; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:26:56 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:26:56 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20050313082656.GB18080@alzatex.com> References: <1946173739.20050307145644@wanadoo.fr> <200503071447.j27ElWW10343@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503071447.j27ElWW10343@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:27:00 -0000 --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 09:47:31AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >=20 > > Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups > > with dump? > >=20 > > On Windows NT it's just a matter of checking a box. I seem to recall > > the last time I looked into this on UNIX there was no easy way to > > accomplish a verify operation for a backup, but perhaps things have > > changed with FreeBSD 5.3 (?). > >=20 > > I've never had a problem with backup (I backup to DAT tape), but I'd > > feel better if every backup was followed by a verify to make sure the > > tape is readable. >=20 > Actually, if used frequently for backups - such as every day, DAT is > notoriously prone to failure. So, it is a good idea to check dumps > made to DAT. Unfortunately, there is not a reasonable way to=20 > automatically do it. There is a verify, but it cannot work on a > running system, because it compares files (inodes) on the tape back > to the ones on disk. Any changes mean an error, even if it was a > real change in the file between the time it was written and the > time it was read back. >=20 > The only real thing you can do is to read back the tape and look > for a couple of files with fairly high inode numbers for each file > system dumped. If you can read them, you can assume the tape > is readable. I'm not very familiar with tapes, but I think that the dump is written straight out to something like /dev/st0 right? So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for a verify? Position tape at beginning of dump dump / | diff - /dev/st0 Though I don't have much experience with either dump or tapes to verify. >=20 > ////jerry >=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > Anthony > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCM/lQbTXoRwEYo9IRAk8LAJ49uNlXlL2YIyqd/oz+o/H05ZrUBgCfbvg2 fdxJv70AddvJbExI8zqoh+4= =EeLW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 08:37:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9242216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:37:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB6443D5E for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAOad-0006hL-FI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:47 +0100 Received: from ns.ag.dn.ua ([213.130.22.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:47 +0100 Received: from arcade by ns.ag.dn.ua with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:38:06 +0200 Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <1158164973.20050307152943@normaplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.ag.dn.ua User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050111 X-Accept-Language: uk, ru, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <1158164973.20050307152943@normaplus.com> Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: logo design competition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:37:41 -0000 Alexander wrote: > Ãäå-òî âñòðåòèë îáúÿâëåíèå î êîíêóðñå íà ëîãîòèï FreeBSD è ðåøèë ñåáÿ > ïîïðîáîâàòü... > ìîæåò ïîíðàâèòüñÿ.. This is the wrong place to post it. Try going to http://logo-contest.FreeBSD.org/ instead. -- [WBR], Arcade. [SAT Astronomy/Think to survive!] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 08:49:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4220416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:49:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A8843D49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:49:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAOli-0007M5-7Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:48:14 +0100 Received: from ns.ag.dn.ua ([213.130.22.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:48:14 +0100 Received: from arcade by ns.ag.dn.ua with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:48:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:49:35 +0200 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.ag.dn.ua User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; uk-UA; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050111 X-Accept-Language: uk, ru, en-us, en In-Reply-To: Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Russian from ssh console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:49:10 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > I'd like to be able to read Russian messages from slrn. I set LANG > environment variable to ru_RU, but it does not help. I think it is > because the underlying system does not support Russian or something > like this. I don't plan to type messages in Russian. Most of the GUI > apps seem to support foreign languages out of the box. What's so > difficult with the console apps? Compare your ~/.login_conf to /etc/login.conf. Set the LANG there. -- [WBR], Arcade. [SAT Astronomy/Think to survive!] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 09:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57B416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CCF43D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2D9S1UQ019077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:28:01 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2D9S0wx019075; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:28:00 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:28:00 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Chris Message-ID: <20050313092800.GC18080@alzatex.com> References: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:28:02 -0000 --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:09:47PM -0600, Chris wrote: > Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that freed > up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file system. >=20 > Here's what she looks like via fdisk: >=20 > Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition=20 > Editor > DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors =3D 156296385 sectors (763= 16MB) >=20 > Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype >=20 > 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 > 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 > 156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 >=20 >=20 > So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the=20 > existing system? The big problem with merging it in is that everything is designed to grow at the end, not at the beginning. growfs can be used to extend a filesystem afterwards, but not before. One idea that might work is to use some kind of volume management system like vinum. If your current system already used that, this would be a simple matter. What you could do though it to setup vinum on the unused partition and start moving data over. Eventually you could extend vinum with the second partition once all the data is moved over. If you aren't using more than about 9 gigs total on freebsd right now, then you just have to move data over once. >=20 > Sorry for the formatting >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNAegbTXoRwEYo9IRArcXAJ4vF6pfkzk3QQIWJeGVizDjgru5gACfZeHh ExpaXv9GV+Mx+aHYJB+aDEE= =NisJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 09:33:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D69B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:33:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AC643D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAPSR-0001MW-0O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:32:23 +0100 Received: from 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net ([207.224.118.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:32:22 +0100 Received: from sgnezdov by 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:32:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sergei Gnezdov Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <42305572.50506@fusemail.com> <4233E4E0.5020904@verizon.net> <200503122351.03483.krinklyfig@spymac.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Decent HTML editor? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:33:17 -0000 On 2005-03-13, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Saturday 12 March 2005 10:59 pm, bsdzz wrote: >> Is there a simple HTML editor that is known to be pretty good in the >> ports tree? nvu (best) amaya (confusing) mozilla (too simple) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 09:37:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9D116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-one-2.wash.one.se (smtp-one-2.one.se [213.80.101.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC69D43D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from localhost (smtp-one-2.local [127.0.0.1]) by re-injector2.wash.one.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508766C95C; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-one-2.wash.one.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-one-2.wash.one.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64831-01; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pcmarpxy.mwrwin2k.se (81-170-150-191.bahnhofbredband.net [81.170.150.191]) by smtp-one-2.wash.one.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BA566C92C; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:36:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost.mwrwin2k.se [127.0.0.1]) by pcmarpxy.mwrwin2k.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560BEAC8ED; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:34:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcmarpxy.mwrwin2k.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pcmarpxy.mwrwin2k.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28137-05; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:34:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.mwrwin2k.se (localhost.mwrwin2k.se [127.0.0.1]) by pcmarpxy.mwrwin2k.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2EEAC81E; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:34:28 +0100 (CET) From: Mark Rowlands To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:34:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050301224201.GC7469@math.jussieu.fr> <20050304124123.GA12225@math.jussieu.fr> <20050313081659.GA18080@alzatex.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313081659.GA18080@alzatex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503131034.25240.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at one.se (smtp-one-2) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.408 tagged_above=-999 required=9 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, TW_PF X-Spam-Level: cc: Stevan Tiefert cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Albert Shih Subject: Re: ipfw or pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.rowlands@mypost.se List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:19 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 09:16, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:41:23PM +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > > Le 03/03/2005 ? 13:07:53-0800, Loren M. Lang a ?crit > > > > > > Well it's not de syntaxes, I always use packet filter system > > > > (sometime on hardware like Foundry/Cisco) where the rule is : First > > > > match first use. And the pf use entire rules is very strange for me > > > > (I known I can use ?quick? but....well it's not the philosophy I > > > > think). > > > > > > I like first match better too, but I think pf is sufficiently better > > > that I just use it with quick over ipfw. > > > > Better on what ? > > More security features like srubbing packets. This can look for errors > like bad tcp flag combinations that some port scanners might use. Also, > it is just more flexible by using tables for matches that can even be > updated dynamically. ipf and ipfw would require a completely new rule > to change the firewall. Tables can be used to, say, keep track of a > blacklist of ip address like the ones that keep trying to log into ssh > accounts on my server that don't exist man ipfw ipfw table number add addr[/masklen] [value] ipfw table number delete addr[/masklen] ipfw table number flush ipfw table number list From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 09:47:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD32143D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAPgF-00025p-9t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:46:39 +0100 Received: from 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net ([207.224.118.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:46:39 +0100 Received: from sgnezdov by 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:46:39 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sergei Gnezdov Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: password manager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:47:35 -0000 On 2005-03-05, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > I like Windows password manager "Access Manager". > > Is there an easy way to manage my passwords, pin numbers on FreeBSD? > It would be nice to have both UI and Console interfaces as long as > they are easy to use. > > I like to use Gnome oriented tools when it comes to UI. Figaro's Password Manager seems to be the best choice. http://sergei.homeunix.org/~sergei/notes/PasswordManagersOnFreeBSD.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:06:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C700516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0943D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])868861800130 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72C114BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:06:40 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:06:40 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:06:40 -0000 hello i find that loader prompt very frustrating: 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, they laugh and go: "is THAT your supersystem? blah" somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? i don't want anything to do with it. thanks, -- fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:09:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9084316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:09:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDD343D49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:09:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DA9CUQ019424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:09:13 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DA9CTU019422; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:09:12 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:09:12 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Fafa Diliha Romanova Message-ID: <20050313100912.GD18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312115359.C14EF4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GpGaEY17fSl8rd50" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050312115359.C14EF4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:09:14 -0000 --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > hello. >=20 > i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > can be summed up in one chmod command: >=20 > find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; The EXACT equivalent would be: find . -type d -exec chmod u=3Drwx,go=3Drx {} \; find . -type f -exec chmod u=3Drw,go=3Dr {} \; But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for. Your probably looking for something like "chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX ." >=20 > it fixes my permissions ... > i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your permissions are messed up. Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a big difference. Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't take away any permissions like my example earlier does. Lastly, the big difference between this and the find version is that the find version, both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or directories. So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that. The find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this probably won't be a big deal either. The single recursive chmod I gave you will most likely be what you need. >=20 > what would be the best solution here? >=20 > thanks, > -- fafa >=20 > --=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFCNBFIbTXoRwEYo9IRAhgHAJjmpYnalMAfh1psKqCcl2jlCXN5AJ4ilEWx VtrIGvc7LEwKwStnjpQSNw== =C1nr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85FA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278B543D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DAF1UQ019484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:02 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DAF0pc019482; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050313101500.GE18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312115359.C14EF4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <42330B26.2040508@haystacks.org> <20050312195302.GA77874@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050312195302.GA77874@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Eric McCoy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Fafa Diliha Romanova Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:15:17 -0000 --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy wrote: > >Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >> hello. > >> > >> i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > >> can be summed up in one chmod command: > >> > >> find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > >> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; >=20 > Uhm, why? Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that > stuffing as many actions as possible in one line? >=20 > What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the > permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time. >=20 > There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just > for the sake of making it one command instead of two. Otherwise, you > may as well do more complex stuff like: Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or more complicated. I use the following command all the time to fix permissions similar to what he seems to be doing. Though it's not technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs. chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX . My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following: chmod -R =3DrwX . >=20 > find . | while read line; do > mode=3D'' > [ -d "${line}" ] && mode=3D0755 > [ -f "${line}" ] && mode=3D0644 >=20 > [ -n "${mode}" ] && echo "chmod ${mode} \"${line}\"" > done | sh >=20 > But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat > consistently every time you want to do something similar :) >=20 > >> what would be the best solution here? > > > > I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead: > > > > find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX >=20 > This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO. >=20 > > If you were feeling crazy and use sh: > > > > find . | while read path; do \ > > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755; > > else chmod 644; fi; \ > > done >=20 > I guess you meant to write: >=20 > find . | while read path; do \ > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755 "${path}"; > else chmod 644 "${path}"; fi; \ > done >=20 > Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result. >=20 > But this has a minor buglet. It will change everything that is not a > directory to mode 0644. This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok > (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance). >=20 > - Giorgos >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNBKkbTXoRwEYo9IRAgIBAJ9k9Q6M632ClfESlmQKoD2nWM8ApgCeJY0f UUVl6DqB3LWY/Idsijhg41U= =FKF7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:16:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34D416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9CC43D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DAGeUQ019510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:16:40 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DAGd7M019508; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:16:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:16:39 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-ID: <20050313101639.GF18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312115359.C14EF4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050313100912.GD18080@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5Mfx4RzfBqgnTE/w" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313100912.GD18080@alzatex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Fafa Diliha Romanova Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:16:46 -0000 --5Mfx4RzfBqgnTE/w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 02:09:12AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > hello. > >=20 > > i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > > can be summed up in one chmod command: > >=20 > > find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > > find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; >=20 > The EXACT equivalent would be: >=20 > find . -type d -exec chmod u=3Drwx,go=3Drx {} \; > find . -type f -exec chmod u=3Drw,go=3Dr {} \; >=20 > But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for. Your > probably looking for something like "chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX ." And one last thing, I'm assuming your umask is probably 022. When chmod doesn't have the u, g, o, or a qualifies, then it uses the umask to mask the permission bits as appropriate so the command can be simplified to the following: chmod -R =3DrwX . >=20 > >=20 > > it fixes my permissions ... > > i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX >=20 > This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your > permissions are messed up. Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do > go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a > big difference. Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't > take away any permissions like my example earlier does. Lastly, the big > difference between this and the find version is that the find version, > both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not > on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with > set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one > type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or > directories. So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have > directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that. The > find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a > normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this > probably won't be a big deal either. The single recursive chmod I gave > you will most likely be what you need. >=20 > >=20 > > what would be the best solution here? > >=20 > > thanks, > > -- fafa > >=20 > > --=20 > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 > --=20 > I sense much NT in you. > NT leads to Bluescreen. > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > Downtime leads to suffering. > NT is the path to the darkside. > Powerful Unix is. >=20 > Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 > =20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --5Mfx4RzfBqgnTE/w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNBMHbTXoRwEYo9IRAjNKAJ9xDsEBL0is2IsPQRUXIdZ40/1PcQCcDriF fqwR3XVhRub6kkLTmseYBNs= =Pt6w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5Mfx4RzfBqgnTE/w-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E1916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:21:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E9043D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DALAUQ019563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:21:11 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DALAeN019561; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:21:10 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:21:10 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Fafa Diliha Romanova Message-ID: <20050313102110.GG18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Z0mFw3+mXTC5ycVe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:21:12 -0000 --Z0mFw3+mXTC5ycVe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:06:40AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > hello >=20 > i find that loader prompt very frustrating: >=20 > 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional I don't see much difference between seeing a giant daemon, a giant window, and a giant apple on startup. > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world It's not a demon, but a daemon. > 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > they laugh and go: >=20 > "is THAT your supersystem? blah" All my friends think it's so much cooler than that penguin they used to see. All that aside, I think putting beastie_disable=3D"YES" in /boot/loader.conf will do the trick. >=20 > somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? > i don't want anything to do with it. >=20 > thanks, > -- fafa >=20 > --=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --Z0mFw3+mXTC5ycVe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNBQWbTXoRwEYo9IRAvmkAJ4qegiVz3qiRupkwHVHRfxUV1OJpACfex5F HGjUw0KT+CT/heKUOw5nucU= =Yj6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Z0mFw3+mXTC5ycVe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:22:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE89816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:22:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB7143D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:22:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])7E793180013D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:22:46 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 10:22:46 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7254B4BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:22:46 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:22:46 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Loren M. Lang" Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:22:46 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313102246.7254B4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:22:47 -0000 Thank you for your kind assistance! That was exactly what I was looking for. But after the constructive response from many other kind souls on this list, I have decided to stick with my find command for now and keep your recursive chmod as an alternate. I keep a local mirror of all my modified configuration files (gives me easy backup and a great deal control over my system). I needed this command to quickly change permissions and ownership of the homedir I store them in. Thanks again! -- Fafa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren M. Lang" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:09:12 -0800 >=20 > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 06:53:59AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > hello. > > > > i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > > can be summed up in one chmod command: > > > > find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > > find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; >=20 > The EXACT equivalent would be: >=20 > find . -type d -exec chmod u=3Drwx,go=3Drx {} \; > find . -type f -exec chmod u=3Drw,go=3Dr {} \; >=20 > But I take it that that isn't exactly what your looking for. Your > probably looking for something like "chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX ." >=20 > > > > it fixes my permissions ... > > i haven't tested this yet but i think it's wrong: chmod -R u+rwX,a+rX >=20 > This may work it depends on exactly what you need to do and how bad your > permissions are messed up. Instead of a+rX, it might be better to do > go+rX since you already have u covered, but I don't think it will make a > big difference. Also, this adds to the existing permissions, it won't > take away any permissions like my example earlier does. Lastly, the big > difference between this and the find version is that the find version, > both mine and yours, will set the execute bit on all directories and not > on any normal files where the recursive chmod with the X permission with > set the x permission on any file/directory that already has at least one > type of execute permission already set and not on any other files or > directories. So if your permissions are messed so badly that you have > directories without any execute permission, this won't fix that. The > find version on the other hand will ignore everything that is not a > normal file or directory (i.e. fifos, sockets, device files), but this > probably won't be a big deal either. The single recursive chmod I gave > you will most likely be what you need. >=20 > > > > what would be the best solution here? > > > > thanks, > > -- fafa > > > > -- ___________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 > -- > I sense much NT in you. > NT leads to Bluescreen. > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > Downtime leads to suffering. > NT is the path to the darkside. > Powerful Unix is. >=20 > Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 >=20 << 2.dat >> --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518CF16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58F443D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni.brinckman@scarlet.be) Received: from (ip-213-49-86-58.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.86.58]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j2DAUOC04488 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:30:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4234161A.40706@scarlet.be> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:29:46 +0100 From: beni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <42332DF7.2030309@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <42332DF7.2030309@verizon.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsdbeni@spymac.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:30:28 -0000 bsdzz wrote: > >> "On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of >> having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If >> you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you >> get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get >> NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about >> different things." >> >> >> > I guess Linus didn't have anything to say about the 200 different > versions of Linux, with their 200 different installers, and 200 > different file hierachies, and their multiple package management systems. > >> Why not all three teams work together for just one BSD version? >> > If I remember correctly, there are multiple versions of BSD because > the teams could not work together. Indeed. I'm not judging nor do I know what its all about, but things like this won't bring the BSD's together... From: Theo de Raadt To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: [BSD-Misc] FreeBSD hiding security stuff A few FreeBSD developers apparently have found some security issue of some sort affecting i386 operating systems in some cases. They have refused to give us real details. A promise is now being made. If a bug is found in OpenSSH, which we believe to have security consequences, we wil inform FreeBSD last. Fair is fair. I really wish it was not this way, but after a week of trying to get the policy to be fixed, we are changing our policy as well. Without immediate action from them to repair their policy, and a public apology for this, that policy will stand. Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:33:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B810F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BDE43D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])2DB8A180028F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A2E84BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:33:12 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Loren M. Lang" Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:33:12 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313103312.1A2E84BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:33:12 -0000 I think it's really best that I stick to my find commands. chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX . worked really fast but it also made all my files executable. Bad idea, asking for such a command. By the way, umask 022? What is meant by that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren M. Lang" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800 >=20 > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy wrote: > > >Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > >> hello. > > >> > > >> i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > > >> can be summed up in one chmod command: > > >> > > >> find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > > >> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; > > > > Uhm, why? Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important that > > stuffing as many actions as possible in one line? > > > > What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the > > permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time. > > > > There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just > > for the sake of making it one command instead of two. Otherwise, you > > may as well do more complex stuff like: >=20 > Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or > more complicated. I use the following command all the time to fix > permissions similar to what he seems to be doing. Though it's not > technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs. >=20 > chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX . >=20 > My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following: >=20 > chmod -R =3DrwX . >=20 > > > > find . | while read line; do > > mode=3D'' > > [ -d "${line}" ] && mode=3D0755 > > [ -f "${line}" ] && mode=3D0644 > > > > [ -n "${mode}" ] && echo "chmod ${mode} \"${line}\"" > > done | sh > > > > But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and repeat > > consistently every time you want to do something similar :) > > > > >> what would be the best solution here? > > > > > > I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead: > > > > > > find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX > > > > This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO. > > > > > If you were feeling crazy and use sh: > > > > > > find . | while read path; do \ > > > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755; > > > else chmod 644; fi; \ > > > done > > > > I guess you meant to write: > > > > find . | while read path; do \ > > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755 "${path}"; > > else chmod 644 "${path}"; fi; \ > > done > > > > Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result. > > > > But this has a minor buglet. It will change everything that is not a > > directory to mode 0644. This mode is ok for files, but it may not be ok > > (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance). > > > > - Giorgos > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 > -- > I sense much NT in you. > NT leads to Bluescreen. > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > Downtime leads to suffering. > NT is the path to the darkside. > Powerful Unix is. >=20 > Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 >=20 << 2.dat >> --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:36:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC6E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:36:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703AB43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:36:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: from kirk.dlee.org ([69.143.16.144]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005031310361001400jgv4ee>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:36:10 +0000 Received: from kirk.dlee.org (dgl@localhost.dlee.org [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2DAa9Z6097418; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:36:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2DAa86W097417; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:36:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:36:08 -0500 From: Doug Lee To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-ID: <20050313103608.GM4670@kirk.dlee.org> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050226052644.GF5368@kirk.dlee.org> <200503121359.01307.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20050312230416.GH4670@kirk.dlee.org> <200503121524.20745.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503121524.20745.ringworm01@gmail.com> Organization: Bartimaeus Group User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portinstall/upgrade stops with no error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:36:11 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:24:19PM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Portmanager is at version 0.2.9_2 now so you should update with > cvsup. I'm guessing you did not run portmanager as root, if that > is the problem the current version will correctly report it. > > -Mike > > Yes I ran it as root (hence the "#" in "Kirk 3#"), but I'm now doing > a cvsup of ports and will try an upgrade of portmanager anyway. If it still cores, build with WITH_DEBUG=yes and send me the core please if you are on a X86 system. If not the output of gdb /usr/local/bin/portmanager ./portmanager.core bt would be very helpful. Thanks -Mike Built with debug, still cores. gdb output first: (gdb) bt #0 0x280d5b74 in strstr () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x2806f7a0 in PMGRrAddDependencies (property=0xbfbff5b4, portName=0x804e1b0 "pine-4.44") at PMGRrAddDependencies.c:109 #2 0x2806fca6 in PMGRrDbCreate (property=0xbfbff5b4) at PMGRrDbCreate.c:173 #3 0x280746ff in PMGRrStatus (property=0xbfbff5b4) at PMGRrStatus.c:53 #4 0x8049137 in PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 #5 0x8048a44 in PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 #6 0x8048986 in PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 (gdb) f 1 #1 0x2806f7a0 in PMGRrAddDependencies (property=0xbfbff5b4, portName=0x804e1b0 "pine-4.44") at PMGRrAddDependencies.c:109 109 stringSize = strstr( portDependencyDir, "\n" ) - portDependencyDir; (gdb) print portDependency $1 = 0x8050049 "cclient-2001a,1" (gdb) Core size 417 K. If you need it, I'll email it privately. I doubt there's anything compromising in there... -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm.... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 10:43:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A570B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:43:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C5D43D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])696C81800136 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:43:12 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 10:41:32 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A5CA04BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:41:32 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:41:32 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Loren M. Lang" Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:41:32 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313104132.A5CA04BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:43:12 -0000 Thank you! > I don't see much difference between seeing a giant daemon, a giant window, > and a giant apple on startup. Like the words of a blind man. > It's not a demon, but a daemon. demon n 1: one of the evil spirits of traditional Jewish and Christian belief [syn: {devil}, {fiend}, {daemon}, {daimon}] > All my friends think it's so much cooler than that penguin they used to > see. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. > All that aside, I think putting beastie_disable=3D"YES" in > /boot/loader.conf will do the trick. Excellent! THANK YOU! :) Such a thing cannot be centralized to rc.conf instead? Thanks, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:12:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519E716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:12:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3618C43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DBCLUQ020008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:12:21 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DBCKl1020006; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:12:20 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:12:20 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Fafa Diliha Romanova Message-ID: <20050313111220.GH18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313103312.1A2E84BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7SAgGoIHugoKhRwh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313103312.1A2E84BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:12:32 -0000 --7SAgGoIHugoKhRwh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:33:12AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >=20 > I think it's really best that I stick to my find commands. >=20 > chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX . worked really fast but it also made all > my files executable. That should only of happened if they already had at least one execute bit set. Now if you mistyped it as a lower-case x, then it's garenteed to set the execute bit. >=20 > Bad idea, asking for such a command. >=20 > By the way, umask 022? What is meant by that? umask is used to mask off certain permission bits from being set when a file is created. Most files are created with permissions 666, but a umask of 022 will mask it to 644. For directories it would mask 777 to 755. Other common umask are 002, 027, and 077. Umask: 022 002 027 077 022 002 027 077 Start: 666 666 666 666 777 777 777 777 Finish: 644 664 640 600 755 775 750 700 The techninal operation is "mode & ~umask" Now when you use the string =3DrwX instead of something like u=3DrwX, no qualifier in front of the =3D, +, or - sign, then it sets all bits minus what is masked off so a umask of 022 will prevent it from setting the write bit on group or other permissions. >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loren M. Lang" > To: "Giorgos Keramidas" > Subject: Re: chmod equivalent to find commands > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:00 -0800 >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 09:53:02PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > On 2005-03-12 10:30, Eric McCoy wrote: > > > >Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > >> hello. > > > >> > > > >> i know there's an equivalent to these two find commands that > > > >> can be summed up in one chmod command: > > > >> > > > >> find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; > > > >> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; > > > > > > Uhm, why? Even if that were possible, isn't clarity more important t= hat > > > stuffing as many actions as possible in one line? > > > > > > What you list above is similar to the way I use for changing the > > > permissions of files/dirs and it works all the time. > > > > > > There's no reason to try to write one, long, complicated command just > > > for the sake of making it one command instead of two. Otherwise, you > > > may as well do more complex stuff like: > >=20 > > Summing it up into one command does not neccessarily mean it's longer or > > more complicated. I use the following command all the time to fix > > permissions similar to what he seems to be doing. Though it's not > > technically equivalent, it's probably all he needs. > >=20 > > chmod -R u=3DrwX,go=3DrX . > >=20 > > My umask of 022 simplifies the command to the following: > >=20 > > chmod -R =3DrwX . > >=20 > > > > > > find . | while read line; do > > > mode=3D'' > > > [ -d "${line}" ] && mode=3D0755 > > > [ -f "${line}" ] && mode=3D0644 > > > > > > [ -n "${mode}" ] && echo "chmod ${mode} \"${line}\"" > > > done | sh > > > > > > But this is getting quickly very difficult to remember easily and rep= eat > > > consistently every time you want to do something similar :) > > > > > > >> what would be the best solution here? > > > > > > > > I would do it the same way you do, but with xargs instead: > > > > > > > > find . -type X -print0 | xargs -0 chmod XXX > > > > > > This is an excellent way to do this, IMHO. > > > > > > > If you were feeling crazy and use sh: > > > > > > > > find . | while read path; do \ > > > > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755; > > > > else chmod 644; fi; \ > > > > done > > > > > > I guess you meant to write: > > > > > > find . | while read path; do \ > > > if [ -d "$path" ]; then chmod 755 "${path}"; > > > else chmod 644 "${path}"; fi; \ > > > done > > > > > > Otherwise, many chmod failures are the only result. > > > > > > But this has a minor buglet. It will change everything that is not a > > > directory to mode 0644. This mode is ok for files, but it may not be= ok > > > (or it may even fail) for other stuff (symbolic links, for instance). > > > > > > - Giorgos > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" > >=20 > > -- > > I sense much NT in you. > > NT leads to Bluescreen. > > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > > Downtime leads to suffering. > > NT is the path to the darkside. > > Powerful Unix is. > >=20 > > Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc > > Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 > >=20 > << 2.dat >> >=20 > --=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --7SAgGoIHugoKhRwh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNCAUbTXoRwEYo9IRArjuAJ9YEJdlq+td4kbIuPDgMoU631GwfwCdFTII Y5ayBQS/ucWeQzRt6JAgygs= =YHfs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7SAgGoIHugoKhRwh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:15:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACF616A4D2 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AC543D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bdaniel7@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so659136rns for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:15:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DXm/873yekZZkOxJy1cTW5SA4sO8uy61Y8REYa0HUP1sr3/QxqoPrlVX5TOk4I58yljKLvdvAA3B4dlIayjW+P8cl7CmUGGhcnh3Ehm9ckulf9GIar6/H80nuw22rC24F3E77xppa4NfrNNijsd5jUzblTc5cVilNHuRHZmnSis= Received: by 10.38.179.14 with SMTP id b14mr1050114rnf; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.19 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:15:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89b41e47050313021518834017@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:05 +0200 From: Daniel To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:06 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:06:40 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > hello > > i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > > 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world tooo late...by using FreeBSD you've already invited "evil" into your world...:)) check this link to see the bad thing you did.... http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html > 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > they laugh and go: > > "is THAT your supersystem? blah" > > somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? the best solution is to use fdisk... > i don't want anything to do with it. > > thanks, > -- fafa > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:15:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A132E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3246243D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdmail@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1209613wri for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:15:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Og5fE4mRxRepzEEJjHlm6+JfzyFmuW2HmchcJhJRLMJg1oroU3HkKmqNziLvwhBl4eTg0ysPxy+DtQ+DETiATm3YqGhvOUw8gPuc4n+mmab6CLjjQeeycSDtFn0VXiBPBX3vWylspH6KxUctLnte3geUVzwJy8zpq4EspeNR5YQ= Received: by 10.54.54.16 with SMTP id c16mr2625830wra; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.56.37 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:15:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8be663db05031303151d97a0e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:15:57 -0800 From: BSD Mail To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: To Jail behind NAT or not. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: BSD Mail List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:15:58 -0000 Greetings all, I have the following topology: Internet ----- Gateway ----- DMZ | LAN I'm using PF to redirect traffic to the DMZ machine which carries the following: bind9;postfix;dovecot(imaps,pop3s),openwebmail;apache13;isc dhcp;sfs,ftps I have ssl certs for services such as mail/web/ftp. The gateway machine has 3 NICs and doesn't have any service enabled on its external interface nor internal. Remote access is denied to the gateway only console access allowed. It only forwards traffic to the inside DMZ. Also my LAN is on a different subnet from the DMZ. If all my services are behind that NAT box is it premature or too much paranoid to have multiple jails one for postfix another for apache and so on..on the DMZ machine that is hosting all these services ? Or can I say that I'm protected to a good extent that jail won't give me any additional protection because services are behind NAT ? I use SSH keys to access anymachin on my network, and I have OTP configured if I needed access from outside my network for college. Thanks for the insight. -- Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:20:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA5816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:20:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F83043D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:20:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DBKRUQ020102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:20:28 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DBKPkE020100; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:20:25 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:20:25 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Mike Loiterman Message-ID: <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> References: <42326F4D.70008@daleco.biz> <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FK65GREB+Evh/hTL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Incorrect geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:20:55 -0000 --FK65GREB+Evh/hTL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:32:19PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > =20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > Mike Loiterman wrote: > >=20 > >>=20 > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >>=20 > >> When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying > >> the drive geometry is incorrect. In the next screen, I put in the > >> correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get > >> the same error.=20 > >>=20 > >> The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate. The geometry FreeBSD > >> suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly. > >> I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but > >> do I need to be conserned about the error?=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >=20 > > Isn't the rest of the error message "using a more likely geometry?" > >=20 > > IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find > > the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use > > its own. This would explain the effect you see in the second > > sentence above.=20 > >=20 > > As "yield", "slice", and "function" seems OK, I think "go for it!" > > is perfectly good advice in this instance. I've seen the error > > several times, too, and so far so good. > >=20 > > I am willing to be corrected by my betters, though, of course. > >=20 > > Kevin Kinsey >=20 > It does say, "using a more likely geometry". The numbers are vastly > different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems > correct and it functions normally. >=20 > I just don't want to have any trouble down the road... It shouldn't be a problem. Geometries nowdays aren't as useful as they used to be and aren't really used much, LBA alleviates most of that. The geometries that FreeBSD uses aren't the same that the drive internally uses. In fact, using geometries has been the cause of an old 8 gig limit on hard drives, a newer 137 gig limit, and an old boot loader problem booting anything over cylinder 1023. As for the missing 8 gigs, that's probably because your hard drive manufacture used SI units (10^3=3D1000) instead of the standard units (2^10=3D1024) just to make the number look bigger. My 250 gig drive is only 238 gig in reality. >=20 > - ------------------------------ > Mike Loiterman > grantADLER > Tel: 630-302-4944 > Fax: 773-442-0992 > Email: mike@ascendency.net > PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 8.1 >=20 > iQA/AwUBQjJw02jZbUnRudGOEQIFgACghb4rW7h8yi7Gy51D427MDeIlfMQAn1b5 > v4YVKUhIT9gwS6SZBMDDwYK0 > =3DKtaI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --FK65GREB+Evh/hTL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNCH5bTXoRwEYo9IRAghGAJwIvJiYKhk+Dgh7lmHsK401RdMo+QCfSeZQ N3Y0E/6FUiSwZhTFmfkxv08= =FKRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FK65GREB+Evh/hTL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:24:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:24:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7EE43D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:24:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DBO5UQ020144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:24:05 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DBO4fL020142; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:24:04 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:24:04 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: BSD Mail Message-ID: <20050313112404.GJ18080@alzatex.com> References: <8be663db05031303151d97a0e3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8be663db05031303151d97a0e3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: To Jail behind NAT or not. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:24:07 -0000 --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:15:57AM -0800, BSD Mail wrote: > Greetings all, >=20 > I have the following topology: >=20 > Internet ----- Gateway ----- DMZ=20 > | > LAN >=20 > I'm using PF to redirect traffic to the DMZ machine which carries the fol= lowing: >=20 > bind9;postfix;dovecot(imaps,pop3s),openwebmail;apache13;isc dhcp;sfs,ftps > I have ssl certs for services such as mail/web/ftp. >=20 > The gateway machine has 3 NICs and doesn't have any service enabled on > its external interface nor internal. Remote access is denied to the > gateway only console access allowed. It only forwards traffic to the > inside DMZ. Also my LAN is on a different subnet > from the DMZ. >=20 > If all my services are behind that NAT box is it premature or too much > paranoid to have multiple jails one for postfix another for apache and > so on..on the DMZ machine that is hosting all these services ? Or can > I say that I'm protected to a good extent that jail won't give me any > additional protection because services are behind NAT ? An NAT router doesn't protect against buffer overflows in apache or postfix, or any other number of bugs that they may have. All nat really does is prevents someone from trying to connect to arbitrary ports of arbitrary machines behind the router that aren't being forwarded inside, but it doesn't protect the ports that are forwarded like http to your dmz machine. >=20 > I use SSH keys to access anymachin on my network, and I have OTP > configured if I needed access from outside my network for college. >=20 > Thanks for the insight. >=20 > --=20 > Regards, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNCLUbTXoRwEYo9IRAorgAJ9IX7LxSnAX3XMEq0AiPL6Nzqsr+wCff5u9 b3oBD3RMTzNzsA5OkGF8fRI= =JkEE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ah9ph+G2cWRpKogL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:47:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFE716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:47:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACA343D62 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:47:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DBlHUQ020309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:47:18 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DBlE3C020307; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:47:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:47:14 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Carl J Message-ID: <20050313114714.GK18080@alzatex.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="P7Tqkd/m/Jnohiaz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Location of disklabel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:47:24 -0000 --P7Tqkd/m/Jnohiaz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:32:30PM -0500, Carl J wrote: > Hi all! To all your FS guru's outthere, I desperately need > to know where the disklabel is stored (since my disk is in trouble!) >=20 > Situation: >=20 > My /dev/ad0s1 has 2 partitions: "a" (FS) followed by "b" (swap). > By using "disklabel -r", I see my "a" and "b" indeed > take up the entire slice. >=20 > My desperate question: >=20 > Where, then, is the "disklabel" stored? The second sector of the slice that the disklabel is partitioning. For example, a disklabel on your first slice would be stored in the second sector of /dev/ad0s1. The command dd if=3D/dev/ad0s1 skip=3D1 | hexdump will give you a hexdump of the disklabel. Since the 'a' partition of the disklabel normally starts at the beginning of the slice that the disklabel is in, it is identical to reading from the slice directly, just a little shorter. Also, the 'c' partition always covers the entire slice so it is identical assuming the disklabel isn't messed up. >=20 > Somewhere in the partition table? The Master Boot Record? > The reserved cylinder #0? No, msdos partition table that creates what are called slices in the bsd world reside in the last few byte of the Master boot record, but this has nothing to do with the disklabel that is stored in the slice. And normally the only thing you will find in cylinder 0 is the master boot record which is the very first sector of the hard disk. >=20 > Or is it stored somewhere inside /dev/ad0s1a ?? > (if that's the case, does that mean the UFS1 > intentionally left some space unused, for this purpose? > And if so, is it always at a fixed location within a UFS1 slice?) Actually, since the 'a' partition is the same as the beginning of the slice it's in, the ufs filesystem always skips the first 16 sectors of whatever partition it's in. >=20 > What if in my slice, I have SWAP first, and then UFS1, > then does that mean the SWAP Format also reserves > some unused space for the disklabel to go??? >=20 > Sorry if the question is stupid. I just somehow couldn't > logically see where it would be stored, and yet be compatible > with having other OS on the same drive... etc. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > - Carl >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --P7Tqkd/m/Jnohiaz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNChCbTXoRwEYo9IRAvV7AJ9t3C5wWemxwS7J0T06tCDPXz/98wCfdPPr O9x6EpbC3GfSO9IBhWKH3bk= =m4kk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --P7Tqkd/m/Jnohiaz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 11:52:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D55F16A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:52:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4905343D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21B9B00114A; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:52:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:52:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050312212939.648997bd@ale.varnet.bsd> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-index: AcUnY6X903qjpdAxSOWeKUzs/QoG8QAXic0w Message-Id: <20050313115204.F21B9B00114A@smtp-out2.tiscali.nl> cc: 'Alejandro Pulver' cc: 'Jerry McAllister' Subject: RE: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:52:07 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Alejandro Pulver [mailto:alejandro@varnet.biz] > Sent: zondag 13 maart 2005 1:30 > To: Alejandro Pulver > Cc: Freek Nossin; 'Jerry McAllister'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: format slice > > On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:06:05 -0300 > Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:04:06 +0100 > > "Freek Nossin" wrote: > > > > > Then I used bsdlabel to create a label on ad0s1 by typing: > > > > > > > > > > #bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > > > > > > > > > And following the handbook, my next command was: > > > > > > > > > > #bsdlabel -e ad0s1 > > > > > > > > > > Now I wrote in the text editor (I admit, after 4 tries and a lot > > > > > of reading...): > > > > > > > > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > > > 8 partitions: > > > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > > > part, don't e: 20820177 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 > > > > > 32776 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now I wanted to use newfs to create a file system on ad0s1e, but > > > > > it could not. My problem is illustrated by my ls output: > > > > > > > > > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > > > > > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > > > > > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > > > > > > > bsdlabel -e didn't create a new partition, although the output > > > > > of bsdlabel ad0s1 is: > > > > > > > > > > pcwin451# disklabel ad0s1 > > > > > # /dev/ad0s1: > > > > > 8 partitions: > > > > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > > > > c: 20820177 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" > > > > > part, don't > > > > > edit > > > > > e: 20820161 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 > > > > > > > > > > How can this be? (and how do I fix it...?) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help already so far > > > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > In my second disk I have free space between two slices so I tried > > > > the procedure by myself. > > > > > > > > When I did a 'bsdlabel -w /dev/adXsY' (without editing them) I > > > > ended with a partition labeled 'a', and it instantly appeared in > > > > '/dev/'. Then I did what you have done ('bsdlabel -e ') and > > > > it also appeared in'/dev'. > > > > > > > > I do not know about this, but maybe this helps: > > > > > > > > 1) Try with only 'bsdlabel -w '. The partition should > > > > appear as'a'. > > > > > > > > 2) If the partition does not appear in '/dev/' then you can > > > > reinitialize the ATA channel (0 or 1, I think your disk is in 0) > > > > your disk is in, with 'atacontrol reinit '. For a list of > > > > ATA channels with the devices do 'atacontrol list'. > > > > > > > > ***WARNING***: do ***NOT*** 'detach' and 'attach' the channel your > > > > device your running hard disk (that contain the FreeBSD you are > > > > running) is connected to (but you can safely 'reinit' it). A > > > > 'detach' removes the disk and slices/partitions from the kernel > > > > and powers down the devices in that channel, so FreeBSD will stall > > > > when it tries to read/write on its partitions ('/', '/usr', etc.). > > > > I could detach and atach it once (in less than 5 seconds), but the > > > > other time it crashed my machine (I had to rewrite this mail three > > > > times, because I was experimenting with 'atacontrol'). It is more > > > > safe to reboot the machine. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Ale > > > > > > > > > Thank, but unfortunately it dit not help > > > > > > pcwin451# atacontrol reinit 0 > > > Master: ad0 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 > > > Slave: no device present > > > > > > pcwin451# bsdlabel -w ad0s1 > > > > > > pcwin451# ls /dev/ad* > > > /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0s2 /dev/ad0s2b /dev/ad0s2d > > > /dev/ad0s1 /dev/ad0s2a /dev/ad0s2c /dev/ad0s2e > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hello, > > > > Have you tried to reinitialize the ata channel before changing the > > partitions? > > > > Sorry, I mean after. > > > Try unmounting '/dev' and mounting it again (forcing it with '-f'). > > > > If the problem persist, the only alternative is to reboot. Do you have > > a dynamic IP? If that is the case it is possible to add a crontab > > entry that executes a script on each system startup. The script can > > send you an e-mail to you using the internal sendmail (must be enabled > > for that) relay so it will contain the IP of your server (in the > > complete headers). Alternatively the script can upload a file > > containing the output of 'ifconfig' to an FTP site. > > > > If you are interested you can ask me for more information. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ale > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, I did try to reinitialize the ata channel: no effect I did try to unmount and mount /dev: no effect Next on the list was: Shutdown -r now. The reboot fortunately went well. But my problems weren't solved. Still ad0s1a wasn't in /dev. #/stand/sysintall Selecting fdisk showed that the first slice wasn't of type freebsd, but unused. I selected "create" and went on to the labeller. I made a partition and tried to write the changes. "ERROR". The same error as before. Back to fdisk and only trying to make the slice resulted in the same (unspecific) error "could not write to ad0". It appears that writing changes to the disk layout seems to be a problem, and that fdisk/bsdlabel apparently don't see that there is a problem, they return no error whatsoever, but they don't function as expected as well. Best Regards, Freek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 12:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5EB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5115943D5C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ola.theander@otsystem.com) Received: from c0003 ([82.182.185.144] [82.182.185.144]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050313121519.WCWB23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:15:19 +0100 From: "Ola Theander" To: "'Giorgos Keramidas'" Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:15:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050313021330.GA81926@gothmog.gr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 thread-index: AcUncbwRlw0/ZCy9QHa45ILbMKkXCwAUnzEw Message-Id: <20050313121519.WCWB23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Confused about connection between an option in rc.conf and the associated action? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:22 -0000 Hello Giorgos and everybody else Thank you for your answers. It clarified things a bit but there is still a few things that I don't understand. Say I want to create my own script that should run depending on the setting in rc.conf: - Do I need to parse rc.conf myself in the script or is rc.conf parsed once and for all by rcorder (or someone else) and the settings are available e.g. as environment variables? - How is my own script found and executed by the rc script? Does the rc script execute all *.sh files in the /etc/rc.d/ directory or is some other mechanism used? - Must the config string in rc.conf have any correspondence to the actual script file using it? E.g. if I add a setting test_enable="YES" my script must be named test.sh? - This last question is somewhat related to the first. Say that I don't have to parse rc.conf myself, which variable name to I test in my script for the rc.conf setting? E.g. if I have a config string in rc.conf named test_enable="YES", how do I test for this variable's value? Do I use "test_enable" == "YES" or do I use "test" == "YES", i.e. the "_enable" part may be stripped by the parser? BTW I use FreeBSD 5.3. Kind regards, Ola Theander -----Original Message----- From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:keramida@ceid.upatras.gr] Sent: den 13 mars 2005 03:14 To: Ola Theander Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused about connection between an option in rc.conf and the associated action? # Redirected from freebsd-newbies to freebsd-questions. # Please do not post technical questions to freebsd-newbies. # This is what freebsd-questions is for. Followups set. On 2005-03-13 02:49, Ola Theander wrote: > Dear subscribers > > I'm slightly confused about enabling an option in rc.conf and the > associated action? E.g. say that I enable gateway_enable="YES" or > maybe dhcpd_enable="YES", how does FreeBSD associate this simple line > to the associated action? I've had a theory that adding e.g. > test_enable="YES" to rc.conf would trigger the execution of the file > /etc/rc.d/test.sh at boot time but it seems like this isn't how it's done. The /etc/rc script is the first "rc script" that runs. This is the one that takes care of running all the rest of the rc stuff. In pre-5.X versions of FreeBSD, the /etc/rc script called a predefined set of /etc/rc.* scripts at specific points during the startup process, delegating pieces of the work to them. In 5.3-RELEASE and later versions of FreeBSD, there is a collection of small /etc/rc.d/* scripts, that are called by /etc/rc instead of the older /etc/rc.* stuff. The specific order these scripts will have is determined at boot time, by the /sbin/rcorder utility. Each script, either one of the older /etc/rc.* stuff or the newer /etc/rc.d/* scripts, slurps in /etc/rc.conf and then checks what parts of the script are enabled to run. It is the responsibility of the specific script to check the proper rc.conf variables and act accordingly. A small example of an rc script that checks a variable and modifies its own behavior is /etc/rc.d/tmp, which contains (among other stuff): load_rc_config $name # If we do not have a writable /tmp, create a memory # filesystem for /tmp. If /tmp is a symlink (e.g. to /var/tmp, # then it should already be writable). # case "${tmpmfs}" in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) ... Thus, it's not /etc/rc that checks the "tmpfs" variable from rc.conf, but the specific script that is interested in its value. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 12:20:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F97716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:20:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D909B43D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 91A261C00093 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76AC31C00092 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050313122006486.76AC31C00092@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:06 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1783108411.20050313132006@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Who is using ACLs in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:20:08 -0000 Anyone using ACLs in production on FreeBSD 5.x? If so, how do you use them, and what are your impressions? How do they affect performance, how reliable is the code, does it really help security, etc.? I've enabled them on my test system to see how they work. Also, if someone can tell me why tunefs refuses to enable ACLs on the root filesystem, I'd appreciate it. I get # tunefs -a enable /dev/da0s1a tunefs: ACLs set tunefs: /dev/da0s1a: failed to write superblock I get the same error if I try to set ACLs on just '/', and the error is the same in both single-user and multiuser modes. If I mount / read-only, I can set ACLs and verify it with tunefs -p, but after I reboot, the ACLs are disabled again. What do I have to do to enable ACLs on /? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 12:55:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2B43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a119.otenet.gr [212.205.215.119]) j2DCtCmf028129; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:55:12 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2DCtT0C001840; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:55:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2DCtSC6001839; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:55:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:55:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ola Theander Message-ID: <20050313125528.GA1762@gothmog.gr> References: <20050313021330.GA81926@gothmog.gr> <20050313121519.WCWB23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313121519.WCWB23781.mxfep02.bredband.com@c0003> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused about connection between an option in rc.conf and the associated action? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:36 -0000 On 2005-03-13 13:15, Ola Theander wrote: > Hello Giorgos and everybody else > Thank you for your answers. It clarified things a bit but there is still a > few things that I don't understand. Say I want to create my own script that > should run depending on the setting in rc.conf: > > - Do I need to parse rc.conf myself in the script or is rc.conf parsed once > and for all by rcorder (or someone else) and the settings are available e.g. > as environment variables? This is done implicitly, by the common code present in ``/etc/rc.subr''. A typical rc.d script that uses the rc.subr stuff to do its work will contain near the beginning a line like: . /etc/rc.subr This pulls in a lot of useful shell code. In particular, the load_rc_config() and run_rc_command() shell functions are defined after rc.subr has been pulled in. These two functions can then be used as an abstraction around the rc.conf options, as shown in the final two lines of every /etc/rc.d script: load_rc_config "${name}" run_rc_command "$1" The first of these two lines takes care of finding out which options of rc.conf apply for this particular rc.d script and preparing internal ``rc.subr'' variables that are used to perform the action requested (start, stop, restart the service associated with the rc.d script, etc). > - How is my own script found and executed by the rc script? Does the rc > script execute all *.sh files in the /etc/rc.d/ directory or is some other > mechanism used? All the *.sh and all the executable files under ``/etc/rc.d'' are considered rc scripts and are run by the following part of ``/etc/rc'': files=`rcorder ${skip} /etc/rc.d/* 2>/dev/null` for _rc_elem in ${files}; do run_rc_script ${_rc_elem} ${_boot} done The logic of the tests and what _is_ an rc script is hidden a bit, in the definition of run_rc_script() within ``/etc/rc.subr''. > - Must the config string in rc.conf have any correspondence to the actual > script file using it? E.g. if I add a setting test_enable="YES" my script > must be named test.sh? Not necessarily. The load_rc_config() shell function takes care of setting the ``rc.conf'' variables that you ask for. You could call your rc script ``/etc/rc.d/ola'' and then set "$name" in the script itself to something different: % grep name /etc/rc.d/ola name='myrc' Then ``/etc/rc'' would run as a script called ``ola'' but use myrc_XXX="YES" options from the ``/etc/rc.conf'' file. > - This last question is somewhat related to the first. Say that I don't have > to parse rc.conf myself, which variable name to I test in my script for the > rc.conf setting? You don't have to explicitly test anything, unless you really need to (i.e. your rc script depends on at least one other option being set). > E.g. if I have a config string in rc.conf named test_enable="YES", how do I > test for this variable's value? You don't. At least you don't have to. You just set $name to the proper value and let run_rc_command() do the checks for you. If you find yourself in the need to _do_ some check though, the checkyesno() shell function of ``/etc/rc.subr'' can help a lot: if checkyesno "${test_special}" ;then # The special ``test_special'' option is set. # Do something about it. fi > Do I use "test_enable" == "YES" or do I use "test" == "YES", i.e. the > "_enable" part may be stripped by the parser? The _enable part *is* necessary, AFAIK. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 13:01:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CD816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay101-f16.bay101.hotmail.com [64.4.56.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FEE43D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from therhysmeister@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:01:47 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.56.200 by by101fd.bay101.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.56.200] X-Originating-Email: [therhysmeister@hotmail.com] X-Sender: therhysmeister@hotmail.com From: "Rhys Campbell" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2005 13:01:47.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0A12300:01C527CC] Subject: FreeBSD & Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:01:48 -0000 I have an application written in Java that I am thinking about deploying on FreeBSD. I am considering FreeBSD because of its reputation for stability and performance. The only concern I have is the port of Java on this system. I am a newcomer to FreeBSD (a few days in fact) so I just wanted to know what is the stability / reliability of the Java implementation? Are there many known problems etc. Regards, Rhys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 13:06:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B1216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:06:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61004.mail.yahoo.com (web61004.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8774A43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:06:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91809 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2005 13:06:25 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=umOvjSmfERSIxbS/wi/tn2K+GmriKn1cVVo1Eo1DRre5rx5eqGfaE6p3RW2SKo/Z1TDwJ8DfUy0f/onTzqr/yY2/qUW6/HTynllcJ0qQp/jIOHLCIrN5WzDNOYORPF8RtpNUDZ834GoWTZnyFITMoDOwAvG0B88hZiDYPlSpMYE= ; Message-ID: <20050313130625.91807.qmail@web61004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.217.21.131] by web61004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:06:24 PST Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: connecting a FreeBSD-4.10 to Internet using DSL with static ip address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:06:26 -0000 > > I have tried searching the net with FreeBSD+DSL > but all I can read is > > about "PPPoE" which requires a "username" and > "password" which I don't > > have. My DSL account is an "always on" account > with a static IP > > address and I guess it doesnt have a > username/password for connection > > to the ISP. My DSL is always on and I get static IP, however, I do have a user name and password. I am in Australia by the way. You may try getting an ADSL modem+router, not just an ADSL modem. The router will connect to the ISP, and it is via PPPoE...., the modem provides DHCP, then you can connect your 4.10 to it. But then again, I do supply username and password to the ADSL router. Please find out from your ISP if you do get a username+ password. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 13:21:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE0A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:21:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FC443D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 32C381C0009C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:21:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 18B811C00084 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:21:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050313132103101.18B811C00084@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:21:02 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2310080683.20050313142102@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:21:05 -0000 Rhys Campbell writes: > I have an application written in Java that I am thinking about deploying on > FreeBSD. I am considering FreeBSD because of its reputation for stability > and performance. The only concern I have is the port of Java on this system. > I am a newcomer to FreeBSD (a few days in fact) so I just wanted to know > what is the stability / reliability of the Java implementation? Are there > many known problems etc. Why not just write it in C or some other compiled language, and eliminate the variable of a Java interpreter (while improving performance greatly to boot)? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 13:47:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5667016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:47:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAB243D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDA000LWMAKAMF1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:47:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2E54B2CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:47:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:46:58 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050313103608.GM4670@kirk.dlee.org> To: Doug Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, portmanager-questions@sunsite.dk Message-id: <200503130546.59688.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050226052644.GF5368@kirk.dlee.org> <20050313103608.GM4670@kirk.dlee.org> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Portinstall/upgrade stops with no error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:47:17 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:36 am, Doug Lee wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:24:19PM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Portmanager is at version 0.2.9_2 now so you should update with > > cvsup. I'm guessing you did not run portmanager as root, if that > > is the problem the current version will correctly report it. > > > > -Mike > > > > Yes I ran it as root (hence the "#" in "Kirk 3#"), but I'm now > > doing a cvsup of ports and will try an upgrade of portmanager > > anyway. > > If it still cores, build with WITH_DEBUG=yes and send me the core > please if you are on a X86 system. If not the output of > gdb /usr/local/bin/portmanager ./portmanager.core > bt > would be very helpful. Thanks > > -Mike > > Built with debug, still cores. gdb output first: > > (gdb) bt > #0 0x280d5b74 in strstr () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 > #1 0x2806f7a0 in PMGRrAddDependencies (property=0xbfbff5b4, > portName=0x804e1b0 "pine-4.44") at PMGRrAddDependencies.c:109 > #2 0x2806fca6 in PMGRrDbCreate (property=0xbfbff5b4) at > PMGRrDbCreate.c:173 #3 0x280746ff in PMGRrStatus > (property=0xbfbff5b4) at PMGRrStatus.c:53 #4 0x8049137 in > PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 > #5 0x8048a44 in PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 > #6 0x8048986 in PMGRrShowLeaves () at PMGRrShowLeaves.c:26 > (gdb) f 1 > #1 0x2806f7a0 in PMGRrAddDependencies (property=0xbfbff5b4, > portName=0x804e1b0 "pine-4.44") at PMGRrAddDependencies.c:109 > 109 stringSize = strstr( portDependencyDir, "\n" ) - > portDependencyDir; (gdb) print portDependency > $1 = 0x8050049 "cclient-2001a,1" > (gdb) > > Core size 417 K. If you need it, I'll email it privately. I doubt > there's anything compromising in there... This back trace is very helpful, from it I should be able to find the problem so thanks! If your machine is a X86 class machine then sending the core file would make things even easier, also the output of uname -a would be nice. On first glance I am suspicious of the /var/db/pkg/pine-4.44/+CONTENTS file, it maybe corrupt on your system but I need to install pine and check it out on my system first. Even if there is something wrong with pine on your system portmanager should be printing an error message and not core dumping. I certainly have a bug to fix on this end so thanks for reporting this! I'll keep you informed on the progress with fixing this. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:03:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6C916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:03:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AEE43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF7B13C7CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:03:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 68184 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Mar 2005 14:03:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 14:03:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:03:09 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Fafa Diliha Romanova In-Reply-To: <20050313104132.A5CA04BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050313142855.I67860@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <20050313104132.A5CA04BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:03:32 -0000 * Fafa Diliha Romanova [2005-03-13 05:41 -0500] > > It's not a demon, but a daemon. > > demon > n 1: one of the evil spirits of traditional Jewish and Christian > belief [syn: {devil}, {fiend}, {daemon}, {daimon}] Firstly, I'd like to say that you of course are free to remove the "devil" if it offends you. But that beeing said; the fact that the word "deamon" (or "demon" for that matter) is used in some contexts to mean something evil, does not necessarily make the word (or the image of it) evil too. It's all about what connotation you put on the word. E.g. to make a file world read-writable you would type "chmod 666 file". Even though the number 666 is the number of the devil, the number itself is not evil. Just as little as the command is evil, or someone who types it. It's just a number. Put whatever meaning into it you like! (If, on the other hand, you would put the number inside a pentagram written in blood on some dark stone alter, I would not think the number was meant to be harmless by the writer.) Originally "daemon" just meant something like "spirit". Then it became a certain kind (an evil one) of spirit in some religions. In other places and other contexts (i.e. the FreeBSD community, et.al) that transformation does however not hold true! This makes it irrelevant to bring up these dictionary "definitions", as they both are all equally true and false. The dictionary does not define a language, it describes it's use. If "deamon" in some groups is used to mean "evil spirit", while in others to mean spirit as in "servant", they are both true! However, noone can deny the fact that Beastie *could* be interpreted as an image of something evil, and that it often does. One should therefore be careful when using the Beastie before an audience you don't know. (That beeing said, one could never be guaranteed not to offend anyone. The apple could easily be thought of as a symbol of the original sin. And the window I'm sure could also be interpreted in some way that would offend someone. This is especially true for words and names, where a word could means something completely different in two languages.) Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:13:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D95016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:13:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED40A43D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])E0FF41800135 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:13:53 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 14:13:53 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9BB34BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:13:53 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:13:53 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313141353.B9BB34BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Trying to turn ipv6.sh into rc.conf directives ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:13:54 -0000 Hey! I'm trying to centralize my system by placing as much as possible into rc.conf. I also think it looks prettier that way. These settings were given to me by BTExact: ifconfig gif create ifconfig gif0 inet 213.188.174.11 213.121.24.85 ifconfig gif0 inet6 2001:614:365::d5bb:b546 prefixlen 128 route add -inet6 default 'fe80::%gif0' ifconfig lnc0 inet6 2001:614:365:6ad9:: prefixlen 64 sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=3D1 /usr/sbin/rtadvd lnc0 So far I've converted them to this: ipv6_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2001:614:365::" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0 lnc0" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet 213.188.174.11 213.121.24.85" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 2001:614:365::d5bb:b546 prefixlen 128" ipv6_ifconfig_lnc0=3D"inet6 2001:614:365:6ad9:: prefixlen 64" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0 lnc0" ipv6_firewall_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_firewall_type=3D"open" rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" rtadvd_interfaces=3D"lnc0" Does that look alright to you IPv6 gurus? Will I now be able to reboot with a fully functional IPv6 connection? Thank you, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:19:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8F716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0638C43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:19:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832E60D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30428-10; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3883860D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42344BF5.10204@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:33 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20050313104132.A5CA04BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050313142855.I67860@maren.thelosingend.net> In-Reply-To: <20050313142855.I67860@maren.thelosingend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Fafa Diliha Romanova Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:19:36 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >* Fafa Diliha Romanova [2005-03-13 05:41 -0500] > > >> > It's not a demon, but a daemon. >> >> demon >> n 1: one of the evil spirits of traditional Jewish and Christian >> belief [syn: {devil}, {fiend}, {daemon}, {daimon} >> >> Now, look up Daemon on the same site you used for demon. Surmised: Disk And Execution MONitor Now know it off or I'll summon the evil daemon, Beastie, to rape and pilfer your disk drive. /Sarcasm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:24:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88CB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:24:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CAF43D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (ip-213-49-86-58.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.86.58]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j2DEOAC07067 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:24:10 +0100 Message-ID: <42344CE2.6010709@spymac.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:23:30 +0100 From: FreeBSDBeni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsdbeni@spymac.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:24:14 -0000 Hi, System: 5.3-REL-p5 I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. I found http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message as described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to create .lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for the user and one for Root, but get the same message back. So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:25:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1984D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:25:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982BD43D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:25:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennisolvany@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1316375rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:25:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=fllAG8gQ8bagxc0kCLMLTY0IvV8AyJPEYIrDyaeyAoac2bmpfHcmbzVR/XQU4cqIYKOfzYjXLqbr3X1lkfhoivW+yWh8kcGpd1/JZLpzaAc8EVS8Ivjdv02s1ktflwbIl/smaeOUjVmukwL0Ebf6pzubYCWwf4hdTeSya9ZaSUk= Received: by 10.38.15.17 with SMTP id 17mr599545rno; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from d ([67.102.60.210]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 70sm883555rnc.2005.03.13.04.38.22; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 04:38:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> From: "Dennis Olvany" To: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:38:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: cron mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:25:08 -0000 How do I change the e-mail address and SMTP server cron uses to e-mail = the daily root report? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB2016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F4343D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DETSNU022768; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:29:28 GMT Message-ID: <42344F90.9050100@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:34:56 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rhys Campbell References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:29:35 -0000 Rhys Campbell wrote: > I have an application written in Java that I am thinking about deploying > on FreeBSD. I am considering FreeBSD because of its reputation for > stability and performance. The only concern I have is the port of Java > on this system. I am a newcomer to FreeBSD (a few days in fact) so I > just wanted to know what is the stability / reliability of the Java > implementation? Are there many known problems etc. > > Regards, > > Rhys Rhys, I have been using the native FreeBSD jdk1.4.2-p7 port for a while now and I have not had any problems with it at all. I am also currently developing a Java3D based tool and it also runs very nicely on FreeBSD. If you want an ide, eclipse is in ports and it rocks. Jdk1.5 is still in alpha testing I believe although it seems to work ok but I wouldn't rely on it for anything important just yet. HTH Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:30:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F69416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:30:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2CC43D49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [10.0.0.25] ([68.236.212.14])0.04 <0IDA00LA7O9YL762@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:29:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:30:26 -0500 From: bsdzz In-reply-to: <200503122351.03483.krinklyfig@spymac.com> To: Joshua Tinnin Message-id: <42344E82.4030400@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <42305572.50506@fusemail.com> <4233E4E0.5020904@verizon.net> <200503122351.03483.krinklyfig@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Decent HTML editor? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:30:02 -0000 >If you just need simple, flat HTML and you really don't want to learn >how to code it yourself, you might want to try Amaya. >/usr/ports/www/amaya - http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ > > Amaya, and nvu (which the other fellow mentioned) look like what I am seeking. I will try them both. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:32:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4597716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:32:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4D643D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CF560D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:32:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30954-02; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:32:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8C660D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:32:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42344F15.60100@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:32:53 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsdbeni@spymac.com References: <42344CE2.6010709@spymac.com> In-Reply-To: <42344CE2.6010709@spymac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:32:58 -0000 FreeBSDBeni wrote: > Hi, > > System: 5.3-REL-p5 > > I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my > Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. > > I found > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html > which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message as > described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to create > .lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for the user and > one for Root, but get the same message back. > > So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? > > How and why are you getting local mail? If your using TB for pop/smtp (via ISP), and all you really want is to ensure you get root's mail, goto /etc/mail and edit aliases to something like this: root: youremail@yourisp.com Then, type newaliases and viola, your root's mail is sent to you at your ISP's account, then TB will get that mail. This is only one way of doing it, and without knowing what and why, that's the 1st thing that came to mind. Chris -- Best regards, Chris PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 FF80 C01B C363 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:34:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.orbweavers.co.uk (213-152-38-100.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.38.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6943D49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from www.orbweavers.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.orbweavers.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81B1FDC8 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:38:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 192.168.16.79 (SquirrelMail authenticated user martinmcc) by www.orbweavers.co.uk with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:38:46 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <2986.192.168.16.79.1110728326.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> References: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:38:46 -0000 (GMT) From: martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: kerberos problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:34:21 -0000 Hi, I'm currently battling with kerberos, and am having a bit of a problem authenticating. It is most likely an error on my part, the whole process of what is involved in kerberos and how it works is yet to click in my head. I followed the handbook guide to setting it up, and it all seems to be working ok. I have now setup telnetd as described to test how it is working. If I have done a kinit previously, it will log in no problem, but if I do not do a kinit (or do a kdestroy before hand) I get - kerberos V5: mk_req (No Such File or direcotry). Any ideas? Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:37:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64C916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:37:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.orbweavers.co.uk (213-152-38-100.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.38.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E000543D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from www.orbweavers.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.orbweavers.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF43F205F4 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 192.168.16.79 (SquirrelMail authenticated user martinmcc) by www.orbweavers.co.uk with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:41:26 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <2989.192.168.16.79.1110728486.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2250.192.168.16.79.1110660737.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> References: <42334057.5070705@gmx.net> <2250.192.168.16.79.1110660737.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:41:26 -0000 (GMT) From: martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: ntp problems (strata too high) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:37:01 -0000 This seems to have sorted itself out - it appears to have been working all along, I was just being a bit impatient - i.e. it takes a while for the ntpd server to sync with the other servers, and while it does that it will not answer queries. After a while it will sync with the other servers and happily anser requests (that is my assumption anyway). cheers, Martin > Hi, > > I am having problems getting my client machine syncing with hy ntp > server. Details follow - > > doing a ntpdate -d 192.168.16.1 on the client returns > > 12 Mar 19:35:56 ntpdate[1443]: ntpdate 4.2.0-a Thu Nov 4 22:31:39 UTC > 2004 (1) > Looking for host 192.168.16.1 and service ntp > transmit(192.168.16.1) > receive(192.168.16.1) > transmit(192.168.16.1) > receive(192.168.16.1) > transmit(192.168.16.1) > receive(192.168.16.1) > transmit(192.168.16.1) > receive(192.168.16.1) > transmit(192.168.16.1) > 192.168.16.1: Server dropped: strata too high > server 192.168.16.1, port 123 > stratum 16, precision -20, leap 11, trust 000 > refid [192.168.16.1], delay 0.02574, dispersion 0.00000 > transmitted 4, in filter 4 > reference time: 00000000.00000000 Thu, Feb 7 2036 6:28:16.000 > originate timestamp: c5ddc31c.eacb5afa Sat, Mar 12 2005 19:35:56.917 > transmit timestamp: c5ddc31d.053aaf24 Sat, Mar 12 2005 19:35:57.020 > filter delay: 0.02579 0.02577 0.02574 0.02574 > 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 > filter offset: -0.10333 -0.10334 -0.10334 -0.10334 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > delay 0.02574, dispersion 0.00000 > offset -0.103344 > ------------ > > > On the server ntpq -cas returns - > > ind assID status conf reach auth condition last_event cnt > =========================================================== > 1 15532 b024 yes yes none reject reachable 2 > 2 15533 b024 yes yes none reject reachable 2 > 3 15534 b024 yes yes none reject reachable 2 > 4 15535 b024 yes yes none reject reachable 2 > ------------------- > > and ntpq -p returns > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > ============================================================================== > clueful.shagged 195.66.241.3 2 u 107 256 17 33.901 199.499 > 14.837 > sky.nuxi.it 217.11.227.68 3 u 108 256 17 68.775 212.512 > 17.382 > i157107.upc-i.c 193.79.237.14 2 u 107 256 17 54.001 203.632 > 9.815 > 62.152.126.5 146.48.83.182 3 u 109 256 17 58.000 201.334 > 9.996 > -------------------- > > ntp.conf on server is > > restrict 192.168.16.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap > restrict 127.0.0.1 > > server uk.pool.ntp.org > server 0.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pool.ntp.org > > logfile /var/log/ntp.log > ------------------- > > (server ip is 192.168.16.1, client is 192.168.16.200) > > doing a ntpdate uk.pool.ntp.org from either server or client syncs fine. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:46:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF96816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2986B43D6D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DEkANU023295 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:11 GMT Message-ID: <4234537A.2000907@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:51:38 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2310080683.20050313142102@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <2310080683.20050313142102@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:16 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Rhys Campbell writes: > > >>I have an application written in Java that I am thinking about deploying on >>FreeBSD. I am considering FreeBSD because of its reputation for stability >>and performance. The only concern I have is the port of Java on this system. >>I am a newcomer to FreeBSD (a few days in fact) so I just wanted to know >>what is the stability / reliability of the Java implementation? Are there >>many known problems etc. > > > Why not just write it in C or some other compiled language, and > eliminate the variable of a Java interpreter (while improving > performance greatly to boot)? > This is a pretty silly comment. If he has written it in Java then porting it to C is probably not going to be trivial. On the performance side, Java's performance is actually pretty good. This is an article on Java vs various other languages. It is a 2003 article so I would imagine things are even better nowadays. http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 14:52:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD29216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D9A243D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:52:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 76424 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2005 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 14:52:20 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:53:03 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Freek Nossin" Message-ID: <20050313115303.2a1f92b2@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050313115204.F21B9B00114A@smtp-out2.tiscali.nl> References: <20050312212939.648997bd@ale.varnet.bsd> <20050313115204.F21B9B00114A@smtp-out2.tiscali.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Jerry McAllister' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:52:24 -0000 Hello, Sorry I did not noticed it before, but your first slice must be of type 165 (or 0xa5 in hex), that is the type of FreeBSD slices. > > The data for partition 1 is: > > sysid 0 (0000),(unused) > > start 63, size 20820177 (10166 Meg), flag 0 > > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > > end: cyl 174/ head 15/ sector 63 > > The data for partition 2 is: > > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > start 20820240, size 19201392 (9375 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; > > end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 It appeares as "unused". So try changing the type. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9403216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7983843D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Mar 2005 15:00:47 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 13 Mar 2005 16:00:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:00:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4233AEFB.4010801@makeworld.com> <20050313043040.GA876@wantadilla.lemis.com> <4233C32A.8030604@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4233C32A.8030604@makeworld.com> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart14822632.uMEJOPiuJj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503131600.38001@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: How to merge an unused partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:00:49 -0000 --nextPart14822632.uMEJOPiuJj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 13. M=E4rz 2005 05:35 schrieb Chris: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >On Saturday, 12 March 2005 at 21:09:47 -0600, Chris wrote: > >>Heya folks - here's my issue; I removed a OS from my drive and that fre= ed > >>up 10 gig. I wish to "merge" the free 10 gig into my FreeBSD file syste= m. > >> > >>Here's what she looks like via fdisk: > >> > >>Disk name: ad1 FDISK Partition > >>Editor > >>DISK Geometry: 9729 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors =3D 156296385 sectors > >> (76316MB) > >> > >>Offset Size(MB) End Name PType Desc Subtype > >> > >> 0 10236 20964824 - 12 unused 0 > >> 20964825 66079 156296384 ad1s1 8 freebsd 165 > >>156296385 2 156301487 - 12 unused 0 > >> > >> > >>So - what do I need to do to take the 1st line and merge it into the > >>existing system? > > > >That depends on what you want to do with the space. It would be > >relatively complicated (but not impossible) to merge it into an > >existing file system. If you just want to create a another file > >system, just create a new partition in the partition editor, set it to > >tye 165, then in the label editor create one (or just possibly more > >than one) file system. Both here and in the label editor, use the W > >command to actually write the stuff to disk. > > > >>Sorry for the formatting > > > >Looks fine to me. > > > >Greg > > I assume doing this while in single user mode. Otherwise I am getting an > error: unable to write to disk. If you want to modify a running fs you can set kern.geom.debugflags to 16. =2DHarry > But as you mentioned,. I would prefer to somehow merge it into the > current FBSD file system. > > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart14822632.uMEJOPiuJj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCNFWVBylq0S4AzzwRAsYMAKCOTxg8JAREHVZE/nLPtL5/hN16CACfWGaH yIgKT0fgrgJ9GvJJASZUR/I= =EMNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart14822632.uMEJOPiuJj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:32:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CD516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6EE43D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni.brinckman@scarlet.be) Received: from (ip-213-49-86-58.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.86.58]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j2DFWGC19132; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:32:17 +0100 Message-ID: <42345CDB.5000608@scarlet.be> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:31:39 +0100 From: beni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <42344CE2.6010709@spymac.com> <42344F15.60100@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <42344F15.60100@makeworld.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsdbeni@spymac.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris wrote: | FreeBSDBeni wrote: | |> Hi, |> |> System: 5.3-REL-p5 |> |> I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my |> Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. |> |> I found |> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html |> which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message |> as described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to |> create .lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for |> the user and one for Root, but get the same message back. |> |> So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? |> |> | | How and why are you getting local mail? If your using TB for | pop/smtp (via ISP), and all you really want is to ensure you get | root's mail, goto /etc/mail and edit aliases to something like | this: As to the how and why part : someone has to read the daily/weekly output from /etc/periodic/, no ? Kmail and others handle it nicely, so why shoudn't Thunderbird do it ? (By the way, in Kmail all you have to do is create a "local mailbox", point the location to /var/mail/ and chose None as locking method). | root: youremail@yourisp.com I have : "root: beni" (and ran newaliases) which is me as the user. Why should I send those mails to my ISP and then be read back with TB, since they are already here ? Beni. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCNFza98oeEzEDrEcRArg3AKCQxgLjW5fmp66MXg9J7Hnmr4cZxgCdHwxs fJ0b2XZTU2clKX2J1oH7wq8= =HqSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:35:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F079D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7369343D64 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:35:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF20460D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:35:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30918-09; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:35:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299D060D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:35:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42345DA9.3090209@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:35:05 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsdbeni@spymac.com References: <42344CE2.6010709@spymac.com> <42344F15.60100@makeworld.com> <42345CDB.5000608@scarlet.be> In-Reply-To: <42345CDB.5000608@scarlet.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:35:12 -0000 beni wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris wrote: > > | FreeBSDBeni wrote: > | > |> Hi, > |> > |> System: 5.3-REL-p5 > |> > |> I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my > |> Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. > |> > |> I found > |> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html > > |> which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message > |> as described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to > |> create .lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for > |> the user and one for Root, but get the same message back. > |> > |> So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? > |> > |> > | > | How and why are you getting local mail? If your using TB for > | pop/smtp (via ISP), and all you really want is to ensure you get > | root's mail, goto /etc/mail and edit aliases to something like > | this: > > As to the how and why part : someone has to read the daily/weekly > output from /etc/periodic/, no ? Kmail and others handle it nicely, so > why shoudn't Thunderbird do it ? (By the way, in Kmail all you have to > do is create a "local mailbox", point the location to /var/mail/ > and chose None as locking method). > > | root: youremail@yourisp.com > > I have : "root: beni" (and ran newaliases) which is me as the user. > Why should I send those mails to my ISP and then be read back with TB, > since they are already here ? I dunno - as I said, it was off the top. Lots of way to do it. TB also allows the use of local afaik. I can't look now due to the fact that I'm doing a portupgrade. But as you said, if KMail can, TB ought to -- Best regards, Chris PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 FF80 C01B C363 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:36:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E73816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51001.mail.yahoo.com (web51001.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBE9F43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84693 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2005 15:36:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20050313153612.84691.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.113.106.60] by web51001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:36:12 CST Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:36:12 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: gtk2 problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:36:13 -0000 Hi, just about to install velocity but bump into a lot of dependency upgrade, like atk (1.8-> 1.9) and gtk2 (2.4 -> 2.6) and pango, etc. anyway, gnomevfs2 failed to compile: gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' /usr/local/bin/orbit-idl-2 -I `pkg-config --variable=idldir bonobo-activation-2.0` ./GNOME_VFS_Daemon.idl /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgobject-2.0.so.400" not found, required by "orbit-idl-2" gmake[2]: *** [GNOME_VFS_Daemon.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 and want to reinstall gtk-gnutella, since gtk related stuff are change, but this is what I got: cc -c -I../../../.. -I../../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -DGUI_SOURCES -DCURDIR=src/ui/gtk/gtk2 -O -O -pipe -I/usr/local/include/ downloads.c In file included from downloads.c:30: pbarcellrenderer.h:57:1: warning: "GTK_TYPE_CELL_RENDERER_PROGRESS" redefined In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:53, from ../../gtk/gui.h:31, from downloads.c:26: /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:34:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from downloads.c:30: pbarcellrenderer.h:62: error: redefinition of typedef 'GtkCellRendererProgress' /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:41: error: previous declaration of 'GtkCellRendererProgress' was here pbarcellrenderer.h:63: error: redefinition of typedef 'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:42: error: previous declaration of 'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' was here pbarcellrenderer.h:66: error: redefinition of `struct _GtkCellRendererProgress' pbarcellrenderer.h:71: error: redefinition of `struct _GtkCellRendererProgressClass' *** Error code 1 I am not sure if this is due to gtk2 or something, would anybody help me? thank you! Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6672E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:37:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C4A43D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:37:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D060D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30954-10; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FF260D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42345E46.4010209@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:37:42 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T.F. Cheng" References: <20050313153612.84691.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313153612.84691.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: gtk2 problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:37:46 -0000 T.F. Cheng wrote: >Hi, > just about to install velocity but bump into a lot >of dependency upgrade, like atk (1.8-> 1.9) and gtk2 >(2.4 -> 2.6) and pango, etc. anyway, gnomevfs2 failed >to compile: > >gmake[2]: Entering directory >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' >/usr/local/bin/orbit-idl-2 -I `pkg-config >--variable=idldir bonobo-activation-2.0` >./GNOME_VFS_Daemon.idl >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object >"libgobject-2.0.so.400" not found, required by >"orbit-idl-2" >gmake[2]: *** [GNOME_VFS_Daemon.h] Error 1 >gmake[2]: Leaving directory >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' >gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >gmake[1]: Leaving directory >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0' >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >*** Error code 2 > > >and want to reinstall gtk-gnutella, since gtk related >stuff are change, but this is what I got: > >cc -c -I../../../.. -I../../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS >-DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 >-I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include >-I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 >-I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include >-I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 >-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include >-I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include >-DGUI_SOURCES -DCURDIR=src/ui/gtk/gtk2 -O -O -pipe >-I/usr/local/include/ downloads.c >In file included from downloads.c:30: >pbarcellrenderer.h:57:1: warning: >"GTK_TYPE_CELL_RENDERER_PROGRESS" redefined >In file included from >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:53, > from ../../gtk/gui.h:31, > from downloads.c:26: >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:34:1: >warning: this is the location of the previous >definition >In file included from downloads.c:30: >pbarcellrenderer.h:62: error: redefinition of typedef >'GtkCellRendererProgress' >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:41: >error: previous declaration of >'GtkCellRendererProgress' was here >pbarcellrenderer.h:63: error: redefinition of typedef >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:42: >error: previous declaration of >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' was here >pbarcellrenderer.h:66: error: redefinition of `struct >_GtkCellRendererProgress' >pbarcellrenderer.h:71: error: redefinition of `struct >_GtkCellRendererProgressClass' >*** Error code 1 > >I am not sure if this is due to gtk2 or something, >would anybody help me? thank you! > > > > What does /usr/ports/UPDATING tell you?! -- Best regards, Chris PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 FF80 C01B C363 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:44:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EED16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:44:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA8743D68 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:44:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luyt@ovosoft.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=60038 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DAVGv-0003Tk-2N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:44:53 +0100 Received: from cc351901-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([82.73.114.87]:35175 helo=localhost.invalid) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DAVGt-0006Hh-JF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:44:51 +0100 From: Luyt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:47:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:44:54 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin? http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png -- "The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing." - Vinod Vallopillil http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween4.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 15:58:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D749316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:58:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C6743D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:58:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id C485CCAF; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:58:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:58:55 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050313155855.GD60575@seekingfire.com> References: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> <2986.192.168.16.79.1110728326.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2986.192.168.16.79.1110728326.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: kerberos problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:58:56 -0000 On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:38:46PM -0000, martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk wrote: > I followed the handbook guide to setting it up, and it all seems to be > working ok. I have now setup telnetd as described to test how it is > working. If I have done a kinit previously, it will log in no problem, > but if I do not do a kinit (or do a kdestroy before hand) I get - > > kerberos V5: mk_req (No Such File or direcotry). > > Any ideas? That sounds like it's working normally. Without a valid ticket (as shown by `klist`), which is cached in a file, services like telent which use Kerberos won't authenticate you. If I'm misunderstanding the problem you're describing, please add some more detail as to what you expected to have happen and how reality differed :-) -T -- Page xxviii: More than any other computer system today, Unix will repay every moment that you spend learning and experimenting. - Harley Hahn, _The Unix Companion_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 16:02:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:02:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2AB43D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:02:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B43560D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:02:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31296-04; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:02:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (laptop.makeworld.com [216.201.118.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FCF60D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:02:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42346410.3000105@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:02:24 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luyt References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> In-Reply-To: <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:02:28 -0000 Luyt wrote: >On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > >>2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world >> >> > >What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin? > > http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png > > > If Fafa is so put out about the Daemon, then Fafa, you are free to use another OS. Don't go on a wholier then thou crusade and change something that YOU take offense to. We have a saying here in the States, if you don't like whats on the TV or radio, you are free to change the statrion. Do not change the format because you take issue with it, YOU change to something that suits your likes. Now as to the above link - Was that really needed? -- Best regards, Chris PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 FF80 C01B C363 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 16:21:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5F916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:21:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52703.mail.yahoo.com (web52703.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18C3E43D6A for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:21:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emil_5kov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68148 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2005 16:21:23 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=DyUun/RoJmQTvqmogRKMGEGZ75fki6sInUqsKHpDoPBPCmOQeqa1yEQFPHPZFDCglxeVvbtDXAJkMWcHbnzb/SmnvZmNPvz/WpVVxiABr0k0tW0bdCThmgnYA2waLeBAdKJvtnz6JyZ919SNU05GBGiz2g1jkhW6pHFO05VkHHA= ; Message-ID: <20050313162123.68146.qmail@web52703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [83.148.101.58] by web52703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:21:23 PST Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:21:23 -0800 (PST) From: Emil Petkov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?=A8quotes=A8_problem?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:21:27 -0000 I have encountered a strange problem with my keyboard: When I try to write double quotes using Shift, I get smaller quotes like these ¨. I checked the ASCII table and it shows that these smaller quotes are \168 rather than the normal \34. Some editors treat them as unknown characters. I am using freeBSD 5.3 with KDE 3.3.2 and my keyboard is a generic 105-key one. If you know how to fix this strange behavior, please send a note. Any insights would be appreciated. Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 16:25:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E194516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:25:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.orbweavers.co.uk (213-152-38-100.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.38.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8508443D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:25:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from www.orbweavers.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.orbweavers.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C641FDC8 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 192.168.16.79 (SquirrelMail authenticated user martinmcc) by www.orbweavers.co.uk with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:30:09 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3089.192.168.16.79.1110735009.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20050313155855.GD60575@seekingfire.com> References: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d><2986.192.168.16.79.1110728326.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> <20050313155855.GD60575@seekingfire.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:30:09 -0000 (GMT) From: martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: kerberos problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:25:51 -0000 > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:38:46PM -0000, martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk > wrote: >> I followed the handbook guide to setting it up, and it all seems to >> be >> working ok. I have now setup telnetd as described to test how it is >> working. If I have done a kinit previously, it will log in no problem, >> but if I do not do a kinit (or do a kdestroy before hand) I get - >> >> kerberos V5: mk_req (No Such File or direcotry). >> >> Any ideas? > > That sounds like it's working normally. Without a valid ticket (as shown > by `klist`), which is cached in a file, services like telent which use > Kerberos won't authenticate you. > > If I'm misunderstanding the problem you're describing, please add some > more detail as to what you expected to have happen and how reality > differed :-) > Yeah, it could well be the way it is supposed to work. Basically I want to end up with a centralised login system for my network (i.e. no need to create usernames on each client). I am planning to use ldap for this, and as I understand it ldap can use kerberos for the authentication aspect. So I am atm trying to make sure I have a good understanding of the kerberos system and have it up and running before I tackle the next part. what I was assuming would happen when I try to telnet in without a ticket (i.e. with running kinit) was that I would get asked for a username/password, and then I would get issued a ticket, rather than manually having to kinit first. How would this affect using pam to authenticate i.e. if I want to use pam_krb to login to the console, I would not be able to run kinit before hand? [Apologies for sending this to you twice tillman , need to be more careful with the reply to button :)] Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:03:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A052716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:03:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D6B43D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:03:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:03:08 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050313180308.4b5c6748.dick@nagual.st> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: var/tmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dick@nagual.st List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:03:15 -0000 I'd like some info on: man 7 hier: "/var/tmp tempory files that are kept between system reboots" Can I safely delete this directory. Probabl not 'cause it's kept in between, but how can I weed some files then in a safe manner? What can and what cannot be deleted and why? some info poiters would be welcome ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:08:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F049916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0C043D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-7-29.client.mchsi.com[12.216.7.29]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050313170844m9100r7ae0e>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:08:43 -0600 (CST) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: Jason Henson In-Reply-To: <1110685322l.7004l.0l@BARTON> Message-ID: <20050313110022.G98716@grond.sourballs.org> References: <7ae53963050311004747c48d5d@mail.gmail.com> <1110685322l.7004l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Realplay10GOLD] Error: ELF binary type "0" not known X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:08:46 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Jason Henson wrote: > On 03/11/05 03:47:27, P.H.Tung wrote: >> I successfully installed Realplayer10GOLD on FreeBSD released 5.3 >> When I run realplay from console, I got following error: >> ELF binary type "0" not known. >> /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" >> unexpected >> >> What does it means? any advises? >> >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ > > > Sounds like a compiler error? Check man brandelf. > $ brandelf -l > known ELF types are: FreeBSD(9) Linux(3) Solaris(6) SVR4(0) > > You could try to rebrand it to type 9. > > as root: > > brandelf -f 9 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > > But the syntax error, how would that get there? Try to make reinstall after > a make distclean if branding fails. It's a little more mysterious than that. the Realplayer port is a Linux binary, so branding it for FreeBSD probably won't work. But here's what's odd -- I just installed linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1, and it seems to have installed OK. When I check its branding, I get: bender# brandelf /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin File '/usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). so it's not branded for Linux or FreeBSD! And yet it seems to be ok. And the 'Syntax error' the OP is getting makes no sense at all. My suggestion at this point - do brandelf /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin file /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin and report the results back. -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:09:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF6D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:09:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3DA43D53 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:09:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])3DF04180012F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:09:24 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 17:09:23 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D1504BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:09:24 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:09:24 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:09:24 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:09:25 -0000 Hello! There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. I want to get rid of this: pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: ######################### Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..cannot cre= ate /tmp/index.UHO8TTKq/INDEX.tmp.desc.german: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 1 error ******************************************************************** Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the "ports-all" collection, and have no "refuse" files.) If that is the case, then report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched automatically with "make fetchindex". ******************************************************************** *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 portsdb: index chmod error ######################### So what is this? Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? This is my /root/make.PORTS: ######################### cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && portsdb -uU = && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F ######################### Thank you all so much! All the best, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9720216A4D0 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0882A43D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:13:22 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:13:22 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050313171322.GA82555@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: update all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:24 -0000 To update all installed ports with protupgrade (not portmanager) will I need "portupgrade -ra" or portupgrade -rRa" ? This will be done _after_ running the gnome_update.sh script ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:13:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCAD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54FF43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-7-29.client.mchsi.com[12.216.7.29]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20050313171336m9100r7ue5e>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:13:35 -0600 (CST) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: FreeBSD questions In-Reply-To: <1110685322l.7004l.0l@BARTON> Message-ID: <20050313111218.T98716@grond.sourballs.org> References: <7ae53963050311004747c48d5d@mail.gmail.com> <1110685322l.7004l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Realplay10GOLD] Error: ELF binary type "0" not known X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:37 -0000 On 03/11/05 03:47:27, P.H.Tung wrote: > I successfully installed Realplayer10GOLD on FreeBSD released 5.3 > When I run realplay from console, I got following error: > ELF binary type "0" not known. > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" > unexpected > > What does it means? any advises? > > Thanks! ...you *do* have Linux compatibility enabled, right? -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57C316A4FB for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51005.mail.yahoo.com (web51005.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F44043D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 40587 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2005 17:13:48 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=zZSkyv3vkZ+7OHXgwM1H220E4FUf2pdBCgRQf1bKwBi+dTMidFaVg/n8mUZ44sUDOamPEkmMf5iMaxmGjuysgB2lfsSk63hNs4RmnpKqluZTBR4lLknEzy08xFLRXxK7+rASBrCu/h5DUi2bgR/7Lx1Sw5IDEHsyh5zvvPO7yno= ; Message-ID: <20050313171348.40585.qmail@web51005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.49.86.137] by web51005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:13:48 CST Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:13:48 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: Chris In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: gtk2 problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:13:50 -0000 shoot! everytime!! I always forgot to check that first, thank you so much for the tip!! :-) --- Chris wrote: > T.F. Cheng wrote: > > >Hi, > > just about to install velocity but bump into a > lot > >of dependency upgrade, like atk (1.8-> 1.9) and > gtk2 > >(2.4 -> 2.6) and pango, etc. anyway, gnomevfs2 > failed > >to compile: > > > >gmake[2]: Entering directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' > >/usr/local/bin/orbit-idl-2 -I `pkg-config > >--variable=idldir bonobo-activation-2.0` > >./GNOME_VFS_Daemon.idl > >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > >"libgobject-2.0.so.400" not found, required by > >"orbit-idl-2" > >gmake[2]: *** [GNOME_VFS_Daemon.h] Error 1 > >gmake[2]: Leaving directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' > >gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > >gmake[1]: Leaving directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0' > >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > >*** Error code 2 > > > > > >and want to reinstall gtk-gnutella, since gtk > related > >stuff are change, but this is what I got: > > > >cc -c -I../../../.. -I../../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS > >-DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 > >-I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > >-I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 > >-I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include > >-I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 > >-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include > >-I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include > >-DGUI_SOURCES -DCURDIR=src/ui/gtk/gtk2 -O -O -pipe > >-I/usr/local/include/ downloads.c > >In file included from downloads.c:30: > >pbarcellrenderer.h:57:1: warning: > >"GTK_TYPE_CELL_RENDERER_PROGRESS" redefined > >In file included from > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:53, > > from ../../gtk/gui.h:31, > > from downloads.c:26: > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:34:1: > >warning: this is the location of the previous > >definition > >In file included from downloads.c:30: > >pbarcellrenderer.h:62: error: redefinition of > typedef > >'GtkCellRendererProgress' > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:41: > >error: previous declaration of > >'GtkCellRendererProgress' was here > >pbarcellrenderer.h:63: error: redefinition of > typedef > >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:42: > >error: previous declaration of > >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' was here > >pbarcellrenderer.h:66: error: redefinition of > `struct > >_GtkCellRendererProgress' > >pbarcellrenderer.h:71: error: redefinition of > `struct > >_GtkCellRendererProgressClass' > >*** Error code 1 > > > >I am not sure if this is due to gtk2 or something, > >would anybody help me? thank you! > > > > > > > > > > What does /usr/ports/UPDATING tell you?! > > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 > FF80 C01B C363 > > Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 17:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AF216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5187643D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21554 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2005 17:45:53 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Mar 2005 17:45:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C203E82; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:45:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Dennis Olvany" References: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 13 Mar 2005 12:45:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> Message-ID: <44k6ob8mnk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:53 -0000 "Dennis Olvany" writes: > How do I change the e-mail address and SMTP server cron uses to e-mail the daily root report? There are several methods. You can configure periodic(8) itself through settings in periodic.conf(5) [i.e., type "man 5 periodic.conf" for details]. My favorite method is by redirecting *all* of root's mail in the aliases(5) file. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:02:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B085516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:02:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2726643D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp helo=hexren.steenbuck.net) id 1DAXQ7-0005Nj-Js; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:02:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:02:30 +0100 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5112010910.20050313190230@hexren.net> To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20050313171322.GA82555@pooh.nagual.st> References: <20050313171322.GA82555@pooh.nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: update all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:02:34 -0000 > To update all installed ports with protupgrade (not portmanager) will I > need "portupgrade -ra" or portupgrade -rRa" ? > This will be done _after_ running the gnome_update.sh script ;-) --------------------------------------------- Based on man portupgrade I would say that "portupgrade -a" updates all installed ports. r and R are interesting only if you want to update one port and its up/downward depencies. Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:09:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B5116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (144.247.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch [195.186.247.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBAB43D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:09:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2DIAmD0048078; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2DIAmeN048077; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:48 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Izn7cH1Com+I3R9J" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:09:32 -0000 --Izn7cH1Com+I3R9J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello=20 I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the client= =20 the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can=20 successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the xdm. Wha= t=20 do I wrong? --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --Izn7cH1Com+I3R9J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNIIowa4WkdMP0jkRAoCOAKCUWzV1/6R0BwCcyjkzd5Xb2WnIXgCg6MYa wvC1xvWaqlNNJgjI3u/Oe/U= =EOuj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Izn7cH1Com+I3R9J-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:10:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF43816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:10:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6966343D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:10:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1403590rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:10:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=sW5RBXjeKxmzuS0ZKzdXfuckUcOAjlurN8/z7NenS+4XW20iGpF23ncTGqTJcz3lWWaKRokULOs4UiJw8yK2XVbf8uXCFT8btthZcePKjYeJfJ+yEm9ANed1pIe+x6/VwkgJz1siaxxr4Qup9WfjzjpD6l2zL5tUti2hd1jMrkA= Received: by 10.38.78.51 with SMTP id a51mr2782601rnb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([24.60.144.26]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k23sm1095063rnb.2005.03.13.09.10.42; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:11:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503131211.25734.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: Need help setting up qmail / binc imap on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:10:47 -0000 Hi I am trying to implement a qmail based mailserver with binc imap on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE using the instructions found on : http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin.php I am using packet filter (pf) to setup the firewall. I have added the following rules to permit incoming traffic on ports 993 (imaps) and 465 (smtps) : pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $ext_if \ port 993 flags S/SA keep state \ (max 15, source-track rule, max-src-nodes 100, max-src-states 3) pass in on $ext_if proto tcp from any to $ext_if \ port 465 flags S/SA keep state \ (max 15, source-track rule, max-src-nodes 100, max-src-states 3) However, when I try to connect to the server using openssl : /usr/local/ssl/bin/openssl s_client -connect :993 -crlf connect: Connection refused connect:errno=29 I have generated a .pem file for SSL over binc imap and made the suggested additions to /usr/local/etc/bincimap/bincimap.conf. Upon consulting /var/log/qmail/current, I see a slew of messages like : @400000004233d471384eecb4 delivery 2: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ @400000004233d4713850679c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 sockstat reveals that ports 143, 110 and 25 are being listened to (but are closed in the firewall). I wish to make qmail + binc to listen to 993 and 465 instead. Any hints on fixing the setup would be welcome. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:20:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60C516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:20:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49F943D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:20:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 82674 for multiple; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> References: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:20:14 -0500 To: Martin Schweizer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:20:33 -0000 On Mar 13, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello > > I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the > client > the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can > successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the > xdm. What > do I wrong? What do you mean? If you're starting the X app on the remote system using X-forwarding with ssh, you're running a remote application using the remote system's CPU and memory. If you're trying to do something like open a whole X session on the remote system like a remote terminal, something like a "remote desktop", you'd probably need to look into using something like VNC over SSH or something using XNest may work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:24:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D7216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BB443D5A for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 82839 for multiple; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:24:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:24:42 -0500 To: racerx@makeworld.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:24:56 -0000 On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: > Aperez wrote: >> Hello everybdody >> >> I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that >> interview Linus mentioned the following: >> >> "On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of >> having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If >> you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you >> get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get >> NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about >> different things." > > Here's irony posed as a question: > > ... and how many distros of Linux are there? I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, whereas from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and have separate "management" teams behind them. The Linux distros keep getting their kernel workings from one group (even if they tweak them). The BSDs do not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:35:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7833E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:35:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842B643D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:35:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAXua-0007Gh-Ro for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:34:00 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:34:00 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:34:00 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <1783108411.20050313132006@wanadoo.fr> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who is using ACLs in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:35:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-13, Anthony Atkielski scribbled these curious markings: > Anyone using ACLs in production on FreeBSD 5.x? If so, how do you use > them, and what are your impressions? How do they affect performance, > how reliable is the code, does it really help security, etc.? While not a "traditional" production environment, my 5.x webserver uses ACLs to keep user home directories relatively private but accessible at the same time. I didn't want to open up my home directory to every user on the system. But at the same time I didn't want to set my files to group www. ACLs provide a nice middle ground in that sort of situation. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNIgUk/lo7zvzJioRAjh1AJ9z1tn23YSbKNmFlF8ef8f/ERReaACgmZGH x0X6e2WdHTXORTDlSPUtwXw= =Re5U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:43:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7108416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A948643D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:42:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2DIgiLv020012; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:42:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:51:38 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <20050313171322.GA82555@pooh.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050313171322.GA82555@pooh.nagual.st> (from dick@nagual.st on Sun Mar 13 12:13:22 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110739898l.16115l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: update all ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:43:00 -0000 On 03/13/05 12:13:22, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > To update all installed ports with protupgrade (not portmanager) will > I > need "portupgrade -ra" or portupgrade -rRa" ? >=20 > This will be done _after_ running the gnome_update.sh script ;-) >=20 > -- > dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 > + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja > _______________________________________________ If you want to upgrade "all" ports, then -faRr. Every port is rebuilt. =20 This would be good for ports listed with incorrect dependencies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:47:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EFA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050143D5A for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (63-225-97-116.dnvr.qwest.net[63.225.97.116]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031318473401600gluv4e>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:47:34 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:48:10 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503131148.10285.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Subject: configuring php4 and apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aj@siegel-tech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:47:35 -0000 Hello I am have problems getting php4 to work with apache2. I have these working on another FreeBSD 4.10 server but I can not get it working on my 5.3 server. When I try to load a php page with my web browser it just ask me if I want to download the php file. Here is what I have done to configure and install: installed apache-2.0.53 php4-4.3.10_2 php4-extensions-1.0 edited /etc/rc.conf apache2_enable="YES" /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache2/libphp4.so AddType application/x-http-php .php AddType application/x-http-php-source .phps copied php.ini-recommended to php.ini edited php.ini include_path = ".:/php/includes" include_path ="/usr/local/share/pear" I have reloaded all the application and rebooted the computer. I have read the php manual, I believe I have followed all the steps in the pkg-message files and tried google but I can not find the answer. I am sorry for asking such a basic question which is probably documented somewhere. Thank you Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:48:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2066F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:48:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FA643D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:48:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbsd@pacbell.net) Received: from sotec.home (adsl-64-168-24-254.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.168.24.254])j2DImNWu021624; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:48:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:48:46 -0800 (PST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= X-X-Sender: mikko@sotec.home To: "Loren M. Lang" In-Reply-To: <20050313074746.GA17624@alzatex.com> Message-ID: <20050313104455.A54006@sotec.home> References: <20050313074746.GA17624@alzatex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Synaptics Touchpad driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:48:50 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Loren M. Lang wrote: > It seems that FreeBSD 5.3 now has support in the kernel for the > synaptics touchpad that my laptop has. Right now it's just running as a > normal mouse, it looks like the support is disabled by default. In > isa/psm.c, I can see the synaptics support in there, but it's disabled > unless hw.psm.synaptics_support is set to 1. My question is how do I > set it to one? It's setup as a TUNABLE_INT, but there is no sysctl for > it. Does it only appear on boot? It is not a sysctl, it is a kernel tunable. You control it from the boot loader, for example by putting hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" into /boot/loader.conf. See loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf for more information. $.02, /Mikko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:52:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6AF16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DE343D53 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2DIq9kc007268; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:52:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:01:03 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Fafa Diliha Romanova References: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> (from fteg@london.com on Sun Mar 13 12:09:24 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110740463l.16115l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:13 -0000 On 03/13/05 12:09:24, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >=20 > Hello! >=20 > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > I want to get rid of this: >=20 > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded >=20 > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. >=20 > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: It looks like a problem with /var/db/pkg. You have time to wipe /var/db/pkg and remove all ports? Try portmanager before you wipe your =20 ports and db. Have you cd /usr/ports && mkae fetchindex? >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports. > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > portsdb: index chmod error > chmod error? Are you root or what? > ######################### >=20 > So what is this? >=20 > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? >=20 > This is my /root/make.PORTS: >=20 > ######################### >=20 > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && =20 > portsdb > -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > Don't do pkgdb unattended, you may need to answer questions. You could =20 skip all this index stuff if you use portmanager. But you need /var/db/pkg in good condition to use pormanager, I think? > ######################### >=20 > Thank you all so much! >=20 > All the best, > -- Fafa >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7F843D53 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050313185249014001h2sae>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c527fd$f7e0a130$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: References: <200503131148.10285.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:53:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: configuring php4 and apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:52:50 -0000 I also had this issue with a couple o f Mozilla browsers until I deleted all the cache, closed and reopened the browser. I am not sure if this will work for you, but I found it to be a minor inconvenience with Mozilla that affected me. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Siegel" To: Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: configuring php4 and apache2 > Hello > > I am have problems getting php4 to work with apache2. I have these working > on > another FreeBSD 4.10 server but I can not get it working on my 5.3 server. > When I try to load a php page with my web browser it just ask me if I want > to > download the php file. > > Here is what I have done to configure and install: > installed > apache-2.0.53 > php4-4.3.10_2 > php4-extensions-1.0 > > edited /etc/rc.conf > apache2_enable="YES" > > /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache2/libphp4.so > > AddType application/x-http-php .php > AddType application/x-http-php-source .phps > > copied php.ini-recommended to php.ini > > edited php.ini > include_path = ".:/php/includes" > include_path ="/usr/local/share/pear" > > I have reloaded all the application and rebooted the computer. I have read > the > php manual, I believe I have followed all the steps in the pkg-message > files > and tried google but I can not find the answer. I am sorry for asking such > a > basic question which is probably documented somewhere. > > Thank you > Aaron > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:53:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF9F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:53:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E687743D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:53:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005031318532901400plfg9e>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:53:30 +0000 Message-ID: <42348E21.9020604@munat.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:01:53 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> In-Reply-To: <000801c527c9$8d9e03a0$0366a8c0@d> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cron mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:53:31 -0000 MAILTO="someone@somewhere.com" in the /etc/crontab file... I believe. It's discussed in man 5 crontab. Ben Dennis Olvany wrote: > How do I change the e-mail address and SMTP server cron uses to e-mail the daily root report? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:54:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3637E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:54:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao05.cox.net (lakermmtao05.cox.net [68.230.240.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA0B43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlh@cox.net) Received: from [192.168.2.103] (really [68.13.124.67]) by lakermmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050313185446.GODE3789.lakermmtao05.cox.net@[192.168.2.103]>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <42348C9D.40200@cox.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:25 -0600 From: Jeff Hinrichs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fafa Diliha Romanova References: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:54:47 -0000 Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > Hello! > > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > I want to get rid of this: > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. > > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: > > ######################### > > Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..cannot create /tmp/index.UHO8TTKq/INDEX.tmp.desc.german: No such file or directory > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > > ******************************************************************** > Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported > version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you > have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are > not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in > particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the "ports-all" > collection, and have no "refuse" files.) If that is the case, then > report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org together with relevant > details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, > your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf > settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). > > Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched > automatically with "make fetchindex". > ******************************************************************** > > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports. > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > portsdb: index chmod error > > ######################### > > So what is this? > > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? > > This is my /root/make.PORTS: > > ######################### > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && portsdb -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > > ######################### > > Thank you all so much! > > All the best, > -- Fafa > This may not fix all of your problems, but doing a cd /usr/ports make fetchindex is much faster and less problematic than portsdb -uU From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 18:57:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF44816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:57:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D640943D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:57:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:57:57 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050313185757.GA87211@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: upgrade a couple of nearly identical machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:57:59 -0000 I run three machines with FreeBSD-4.11 and lots of the same ports installed. Upgrading these three must be more easy then running portupgrade on every machine again and again, upgrading the same ports multiple times. This is waste of cpu power ;-) Does anybody has suggestions on how to handle this situation in a more practicle way? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 19:08:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E409E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:08:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB2B43D5F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:08:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005031319082901400jhrs8e>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:08:29 +0000 Message-ID: <423491A8.2060305@munat.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:16:56 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD User Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:08:30 -0000 This morning, after running cvsup and portsdb, portversion told me I had a stale dependency in linux-sun-jdk. This didn't surprise me, as I had installed the jdk yesterday (and what a pain that was). So, I did as it suggested and ran pkgdb -F.... it asked me some questions... well, I'll just paste the output below. The question/problem is that now portversion says that I need to upgrade 85 ports! When I checked a few days ago, I had nothing to upgrade, so I have a feeling I messed something up. Any help would be appreciated. Ben output: (starting from end of cvsup run...) Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully venus1@~: portsdb -uU Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: freeciv-gtk2-1.14.2 Done. done [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 12565 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000..... ..... done] venus1@~: portversion -l "<" [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 263 packages found (-0 +4) .... done] Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 --> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 -- manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. venus1@~: pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'multimedia/nautilus-media': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'multimedia/nautilus-media' was removed on 2005-03-12 because: "Deprecated, and no longer builds" -> Hint: nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 is required by the following package(s): gnome2-lite-2.8.3 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 ? [no] no Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 (x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:37%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_2 (x11/linux-XFree86-libs): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-expat-1.95.5_2 (textproc/linux-expat): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:31%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Cyclic dependencies: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> (linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Unlink linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 ? [yes] yes Command failed [exit code 1]: "grep -v \"^linux\\\\-sun\\\\-jdk\\\\-1\\\\.4\\\\.2\\\\.07_1\\\$\" < /var/db/pkg/linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1/+REQUIRED_BY > /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY77658.0" venus1@~: portversion -l "<" ORBit2 < arts < atk < desktop-file-utils < eel < enlightenment < eog < epiphany < fileroller < firefox < fluxbox-devel < fluxconf < (etc... 85 in all.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 19:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B46016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E165143D60 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB0052819Q6EI1@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:10:38 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E2D872CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:10:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:10:36 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <1110740463l.16115l.1l@BARTON> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131110.37271.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313170924.3D1504BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <1110740463l.16115l.1l@BARTON> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:10:40 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:01 am, Jason Henson wrote: > On 03/13/05 12:09:24, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > Hello! > > > > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > > I want to get rid of this: > > > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > > > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. > > > > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: > > It looks like a problem with /var/db/pkg. You have time to wipe > /var/db/pkg and remove all ports? Try portmanager before you wipe > your ports and db. > > Have you cd /usr/ports && mkae fetchindex? > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > > portsdb: index chmod error > > chmod error? Are you root or what? > > > ######################### > > > > So what is this? > > > > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? > > > > This is my /root/make.PORTS: > > > > ######################### > > > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && > > portsdb > > -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > > Don't do pkgdb unattended, you may need to answer questions. You > could skip all this index stuff if you use portmanager. But you need > /var/db/pkg in good condition to use pormanager, I think? > portmanager doesn't use /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db, I think that is what you are refering to. It should be able to fix this person's problem like you suggested though. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 19:15:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063D516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:15:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8693543D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAYXd-0002Yv-Im for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:22 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:21 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:14:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20050313185757.GA87211@pooh.nagual.st> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade a couple of nearly identical machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:15:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-13, Dick Hoogendijk scribbled these curious markings: > I run three machines with FreeBSD-4.11 and lots of the same ports > installed. Upgrading these three must be more easy then running > portupgrade on every machine again and again, upgrading the same ports > multiple times. This is waste of cpu power ;-) Make packages of the ports, and then install them on each machine? Use devel/distcc to split up the load for each? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNJGhk/lo7zvzJioRAqpoAJ9/XfkAxOYBqe/hu+jN3J0nIk4jAgCfSNQh WFbdBVpIKQDcrpJs+zh27y8= =SHZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 19:59:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A73516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:59:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D669D43D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:59:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])BB6A818001AC for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:59:05 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 19:59:05 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8C364BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:59:05 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:59:05 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: jlh@cox.net, jason@ec.rr.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:59:05 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313195905.A8C364BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:59:06 -0000 Hey! I haven't tried fetchindex or portmanager. I'll try them now. As for the make.PORTS, I run them inside screen, so incase I need to answer something, it won't continue untill I do. But do you guys have a suggestion to how a more efficient make.PORTS could look like? Now I'll include cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex into it but how about the order and amount of instances of each command etc? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hinrichs" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:25 -0600 >=20 > Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > Hello! > > > > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > > I want to get rid of this: > > > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > > > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. > > > > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: > > > > ######################### > > > > Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please=20 > > wait..cannot create /tmp/index.UHO8TTKq/INDEX.tmp.desc.german: No=20 > > such file or directory > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > > > ******************************************************************** > > Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported > > version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you > > have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are > > not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in > > particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the "ports-all" > > collection, and have no "refuse" files.) If that is the case, then > > report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org together with relevant > > details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, > > your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf > > settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). > > > > Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched > > automatically with "make fetchindex". > > ******************************************************************** > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > > portsdb: index chmod error > > > > ######################### > > > > So what is this? > > > > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? > > > > This is my /root/make.PORTS: > > > > ######################### > > > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra &&=20 > > portsdb -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > > > > ######################### > > > > Thank you all so much! > > > > All the best, > > -- Fafa > > > This may not fix all of your problems, but doing a > cd /usr/ports > make fetchindex > is much faster and less problematic than > portsdb -uU --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:05:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE8616A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:05:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87D643D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:05:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])BC3DC18001A0 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:05:43 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 20:05:43 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B290F4BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:05:43 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:05:43 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: jlh@cox.net, jason@ec.rr.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:05:43 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:05:44 -0000 If I just do: cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u Do I need portupgrade at all then? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Henson" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:01:03 +0000 >=20 > On 03/13/05 12:09:24, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > > I want to get rid of this: > > > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin recorded > > > > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. > > > > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: >=20 > It looks like a problem with /var/db/pkg. You have time to wipe > /var/db/pkg and remove all ports? Try portmanager before you wipe=20 > your ports and db. >=20 > Have you cd /usr/ports && mkae fetchindex? >=20 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > > portsdb: index chmod error > > >=20 > chmod error? Are you root or what? >=20 > > ######################### > > > > So what is this? > > > > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? > > > > This is my /root/make.PORTS: > > > > ######################### > > > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && portsdb > > -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > > >=20 > Don't do pkgdb unattended, you may need to answer questions. You=20 > could skip all this index stuff if you use portmanager. But you=20 > need > /var/db/pkg in good condition to use pormanager, I think? > > ######################### > > > > Thank you all so much! > > > > All the best, > > -- Fafa > > > > --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:11:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA4416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A9843D4C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])DC611180013C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:21 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 13 Mar 2005 20:11:21 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5EE14BE6D; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:21 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:11:21 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 127.0.0.1 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050313201121.D5EE14BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:22 -0000 Hey! I am trying to add my entire IPv6 setup into rc.conf. But it seems it won't automagically create gif0, nor will it add the default route. This is my rc.conf: # *** IPv6 configuration # ipv6_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::%gif0" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet 213.183.143.59 213.121.24.85" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::1 prefixlen 64" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::2 prefixlen 64" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::3 prefixlen 64" ipv6_firewall_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_firewall_type=3D"open" rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" rtadvd_interfaces=3D"gif0" Is anybody able to tell what I lack? I certainly cannot ping6 6bone.net after reboot. Thanks! All the best, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:15:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC8316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:15:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107D143D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB0051J49S6BT1@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:15:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 382E82CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:15:26 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050313195905.A8C364BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131215.27255.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313195905.A8C364BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:15:30 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:59 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > Hey! > > I haven't tried fetchindex or portmanager. > I'll try them now. > > As for the make.PORTS, I run them inside screen, so incase > I need to answer something, it won't continue untill I do. > > But do you guys have a suggestion to how a more efficient > make.PORTS could look like? Now I'll include > > cd /usr/ports && make fetchindex > > into it but how about the order and amount of instances of > each command etc? > > Thanks. portmanager doesn't need fetchindex, but if you want to make the readme.html's or do things like make search= in /usr/ports then make fetchindex is a good idea. You are going to loose the index every time you cvsup so here is how I would set up a script to automate things as much as possible: cd /usr/ports make update (this assumes you have /etc/make.conf setup for cvsup) make fetchindex portmanager -u > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Hinrichs" > To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" > Subject: Re: portsdb -uU error (I also need some tips) > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:55:25 -0600 > > > Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > There's been a lot of mess in my ports lately. > > > I want to get rid of this: > > > > > > pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no origin > > > recorded pkg_delete: package bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.800 has no > > > origin recorded > > > > > > Which pops up every time I install/deinstall a port or package. > > > I have done a 'pkgdb -F' which seemed to work. > > > > > > Upon 'portsdb -uU' I get: > > > > > > ######################### > > > > > > Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please > > > wait..cannot create /tmp/index.UHO8TTKq/INDEX.tmp.desc.german: No > > > such file or directory > > > *** Error code 2 > > > 1 error > > > > > > ***************************************************************** > > >*** Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a > > > supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) > > > and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. > > > (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports > > > collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must > > > cvsup the "ports-all" collection, and have no "refuse" files.) > > > If that is the case, then report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org > > > together with relevant details of your ports configuration > > > (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, > > > and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and > > > WITH/WITHOUT settings). > > > > > > Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched > > > automatically with "make fetchindex". > > > ***************************************************************** > > >*** > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports. > > > No such file or directory - /tmp/INDEX8274.0 > > > portsdb: index chmod error > > > > > > ######################### > > > > > > So what is this? > > > > > > Also, can anybody tell me if these commands are all I need to > > > do a full cleanup and upgrade of my ports? > > > > > > This is my /root/make.PORTS: > > > > > > ######################### > > > > > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && pkgdb -F && portupgrade -ra && > > > portsdb -uU && portupgrade -ra && pkgdb -F > > > > > > ######################### > > > > > > Thank you all so much! > > > > > > All the best, > > > -- Fafa > > > > This may not fix all of your problems, but doing a > > cd /usr/ports > > make fetchindex > > is much faster and less problematic than > > portsdb -uU From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:20:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36C316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931B843D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:20:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00BA44HH7NF0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:20:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B446C2CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:20:01 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:20:06 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > If I just do: > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > > Do I need portupgrade at all then? > > Thanks. Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so I keep portupgrade around just the same. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:33:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFC316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAC843D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DKX2NU002667; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:33:02 GMT Message-ID: <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:38:29 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:33:08 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >>If I just do: >> >>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >> >>Do I need portupgrade at all then? >> >>Thanks. > > > Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a > nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others > so I keep portupgrade around just the same. > > -Mike How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of time as portupgrade for each run? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:40:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811C016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BCC43D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:40:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614FD60D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:40:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32384-08; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:40:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0988660D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:40:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:40:17 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hodgins References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:40:19 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >> >>> If I just do: >>> >>> cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>> >>> Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> >> >> Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a >> nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others >> so I keep portupgrade around just the same. >> >> -Mike > > > How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of > time as portupgrade for each run? > > Chris The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps it in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, I can pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 -- Best regards, Chris Misery no longer loves company nowdays it insists on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:44:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1D616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:44:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C690A43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1471554rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:44:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gaAgqDAB5wWu94lYJh92Zx3wYrikUeJBX4gag027Lf78HHlOehfnrrDS1UcMaJ3zUVTgGWcl+/yoYAdU1BeSDr1jMs2U2q5KH16WvRK2AHXiOlaoBH6Ez+eObu8ODwe5qKbp4niMpSsbVLf/U4N2IqtM3F3Y4OYcI2Nnjryzqn0= Received: by 10.38.15.17 with SMTP id 17mr851603rno; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:44:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:44:32 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050313171401.08B0D16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313171401.08B0D16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:44:43 -0000 I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error popping in.. The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) information. Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? Thanks, as always, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121FD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE6543D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00BEP5OSX1A0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AFF8F2CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:46:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:46:02 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> To: Chris Hodgins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:05 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:38 pm, you wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >>If I just do: > >> > >>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > >> > >>Do I need portupgrade at all then? > >> > >>Thanks. > > > > Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is > > a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so > > I keep portupgrade around just the same. > > > > -Mike > > How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of > time as portupgrade for each run? > > Chris That is a tough question here is how it tends to work for me: First I run it everyday since I'm developing it I have to know if there is anything changed in ports that is going to cause portmanager to crash. Most days it takes less than an hour, but sometimes when just one lower level port like gettext for example is updated it may take 24 hours to finish. I'm using a 1ghz machine with both gnome and kde (all together about 300 installed ports) as an example. Here is exactly how portmanager works: First dependent ports that are out of date are upgraded, then everything that depends on them are upgraded. portupgrade does not work this same way so the time comparison is very tough to predict. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:47:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694D216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E4943D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DKkwNU003030; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:58 GMT Message-ID: <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:25 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:04 -0000 Chris wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > >>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >> >>>On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If I just do: >>>> >>>>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>> >>>>Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>>Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a >>>nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others >>>so I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>> >>>-Mike >> >> >>How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of >>time as portupgrade for each run? >> >>Chris > > > The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) > portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. > > IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. > > Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps it > in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, I can > pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just thunderbird that does this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:50:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010A516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F74743D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC7160D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:50:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32828-04; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:50:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DA260D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:50:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4234A796.6040705@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:50:30 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hodgins References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:50:30 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> Chris Hodgins wrote: >> >>> Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> If I just do: >>>>> >>>>> cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>>> >>>>> Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a >>>> nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others >>>> so I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>>> >>>> -Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of >>> time as portupgrade for each run? >>> >>> Chris >> >> >> >> The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) >> portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. >> >> IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. >> >> Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps it >> in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, I can >> pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 >> > > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just thunderbird > that does this? > I assume so - I just checked Firefox - and its in there. -- Best regards, Chris The tendency of smoke from a cigarette, barbeque, campfire, etc. to drift into a person's face varies directly with that person's sensitivity to smoke. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:52:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2708A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E843D5C for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DKpuNU003170; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:51:56 GMT Message-ID: <4234A933.10301@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:57:23 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:04 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:38 pm, you wrote: > >>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >>>On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>> >>>>If I just do: >>>> >>>>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>> >>>>Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>>Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is >>>a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so >>>I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>> >>>-Mike >> >>How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of >>time as portupgrade for each run? >> >>Chris > > > That is a tough question here is how it tends to work for me: > > First I run it everyday since I'm developing it I have to know if there > is anything changed in ports that is going to cause portmanager to > crash. Most days it takes less than an hour, but sometimes when > just one lower level port like gettext for example is updated it may > take 24 hours to finish. I'm using a 1ghz machine with both gnome > and kde (all together about 300 installed ports) as an example. > > Here is exactly how portmanager works: > > First dependent ports that are out of date are upgraded, then everything > that depends on them are upgraded. portupgrade does not work this same > way so the time comparison is very tough to predict. > > -Mike > Ah I see. So portmanager is sort of doing the equivelant to: portupgrade -fr myOutOfDatePort ?? Does this not mean it will always be slower than portupgrade? If it a low-level port it is going to take ages but if it is high-level it will start to get closer to the time it takes for portupgrade to run. Never faster? Or am I missing something. Is there a reason it does it this way over portupgrades method? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:13:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D6A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:13:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E835443D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00B3E6YSWWC0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:13:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CC84B2CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:13:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> To: racerx@makeworld.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:13:41 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:40 pm, Chris wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >>> If I just do: > >>> > >>> cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > >>> > >>> Do I need portupgrade at all then? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >> > >> Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is > >> a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so > >> I keep portupgrade around just the same. > >> > >> -Mike > > > > How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount > > of time as portupgrade for each run? > > > > Chris > > The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) > portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. > > IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. > > Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps > it in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, > I can pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 Chris, check and see if you have a /usr/ports/packages directory. If you do then all the packages will end up in /usr/ports/packages/All and a tree of symlinks will be made under /usr/ports/packages for the ports that have packages. For some reason when you first set up FreeBSD/ports it does not make the /usr/ports/packages directory so the packages end up in the ports directory, this isn't a good place for them, here is why: When a port is removed, see /usr/ports/MOVED, cvsup should be able to delete the directory but if a package is setting in there it can't, so over time you will come across port directories that have just a package in it and maybe a readme.html file but nothing else. It will keep things leaner/cleaner if the packages directory exists. I keep meaning to submit a PR about the missing packages directory but never seem to get around to it :( One other thing just to let you know, I've been testing portmanager against this new gnome update, when its done there is a bunch of gstreamer-plugins-* left un-upgraded. I just tried pkg_delete -f gstreamer-plugins-* on them and let portmanager -u bring them back in, it seems to be working but I also cvsup'ed and there is so many new changes it will be awhile before I know for sure. Right now I'm telling anyone who asks to try pkg_delete -f gstreamer-plugins-* first before upgrading with portmanager if they use gnome. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88E216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF7543D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soheil.h.y@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1488192rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:24:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n+fcoxZPEgE4aNwLml67z1/bbQ4GDJtGIM2KpVVpn4ttgFJfxnU7ke7bts2WcZjIBdExHnkK/2rThfdNKXl4PhhgmBrXT6vt0sPDuUDdcZZPGG21u8imQkS6DvHaR33dIthAuX+EFaYLieKjOUDFb4t48PVEj4IMCClWZPKs8GQ= Received: by 10.38.208.65 with SMTP id f65mr4539500rng; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.11.19 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:57:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4c90b772050313075717a33fed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:27:57 +0330 From: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: smbspool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soheil Hassas Yeganeh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:24:40 -0000 Hi there, I have a problem using smb printer shared on an XP machine. smbspool smb://Guest:@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/HPLaserJ 5 nobody title 1 x.txt It says ERROR: cli_session_request() failed... ERROR: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds... How can I solve this problem Thanx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:34:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215FB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C70443D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DLYcUQ007184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:39 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DLYafo007181; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:36 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:34:36 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:34:48 -0000 --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >=20 > On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: >=20 > >Aperez wrote: > >>Hello everybdody > >> > >>I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that=20 > >>interview Linus mentioned the following: > >> > >>"On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of=20 > >>having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If=20 > >>you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, you= =20 > >>get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get=20 > >>NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about=20 > >>different things." > > > >Here's irony posed as a question: > > > >... and how many distros of Linux are there? >=20 > I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. =20 > The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those=20 > separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and=20 > default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, whereas= =20 > from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very=20 > similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and=20 > have separate "management" teams behind them. While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. >=20 > The Linux distros keep getting their kernel workings from one group=20 > (even if they tweak them). The BSDs do not. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLHsbTXoRwEYo9IRAuzOAJ91+yPpw/vXjARo9Tvdo2Z5i/rYhgCfbl1a Fu/d67ZYMiNNRNYRPPlFBXg= =SjZE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8cpS+6Cx+xtICsjy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:41:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3557D16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:41:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF28A43D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:41:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DLfDUQ007326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:41:13 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DLfCjF007324; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:41:12 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:41:12 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Luyt Message-ID: <20050313214112.GM18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:41:18 -0000 --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:47:17PM +0100, Luyt wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >=20 > > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world >=20 > What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin? >=20 > http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png I don't think that things like this really reflect the good side of the BSD community. Though I think there's at least as much, if not more coming from the Linux community, we don't need to do it. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > "The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness=20 > the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across=20 > the Internet is simply amazing." - Vinod Vallopillil > http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween4.php > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLN4bTXoRwEYo9IRAnlWAJ928ePjfLQldmOnstPtes+ulj9O3QCePI23 7qGp/3b6xXvW93/2VfJ2490= =KRkl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rpGc+ACYPE+RMC+Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:50:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677F616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:50:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE1A43D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DLoVUQ007584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:50:32 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DLoSMJ007582; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:50:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:50:28 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Mikko Ty?l?j?rvi Message-ID: <20050313215028.GN18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313074746.GA17624@alzatex.com> <20050313104455.A54006@sotec.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jnYfR+Q8IWTs8BNa" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313104455.A54006@sotec.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Synaptics Touchpad driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:50:45 -0000 --jnYfR+Q8IWTs8BNa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 10:48:46AM -0800, Mikko Ty?l?j?rvi wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Loren M. Lang wrote: >=20 > >It seems that FreeBSD 5.3 now has support in the kernel for the > >synaptics touchpad that my laptop has. Right now it's just running as a > >normal mouse, it looks like the support is disabled by default. In > >isa/psm.c, I can see the synaptics support in there, but it's disabled > >unless hw.psm.synaptics_support is set to 1. My question is how do I > >set it to one? It's setup as a TUNABLE_INT, but there is no sysctl for > >it. Does it only appear on boot? >=20 > It is not a sysctl, it is a kernel tunable. You control it from the > boot loader, for example by putting >=20 > hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D"1" >=20 > into /boot/loader.conf. See loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf > for more information. That's what I was wondering and I tried to set it in the loader, but I haven't noticed a difference. No added sysctls to tune the touchpad, no kernel messages showing anything obvious, the touchpad still acts the same, etc. Also, I looked through the kernel sources for other TUNABLE_INT's: =2E.. /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_all.c: TUNABLE_INT_FETCH("kern.cam.scsi_de= lay", &delay); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c:TUNABLE_INT("kern.cam.cd.changer.min_busy_s= econds", &changer_min_busy_seconds); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c:TUNABLE_INT("kern.cam.cd.changer.max_busy_s= econds", &changer_max_busy_seconds); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_cd.c: TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(tmpstr, &softc->m= inimum_command_size); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c:TUNABLE_INT("kern.cam.da.retry_count", &da_= retry_count); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c:TUNABLE_INT("kern.cam.da.default_timeout", = &da_default_timeout); /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c: TUNABLE_INT_FETCH(tmpstr, &softc->m= inimum_cmd_size); =2E.. sysctls -a|grep cam: kern.cam.scsi_delay: 15000 kern.cam.cd.changer.min_busy_seconds: 5 kern.cam.cd.changer.max_busy_seconds: 15 kern.cam.da.retry_count: 4 kern.cam.da.default_timeout: 60 It looks like all these tunables are also sysctls. >=20 > $.02, > /Mikko --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --jnYfR+Q8IWTs8BNa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLWkbTXoRwEYo9IRAhIvAJ9IBPI8bF0rVZRgX5eFyjsDnmnKIwCfXN0+ +daInZppReBjBU+dprbOTWg= =zJPc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jnYfR+Q8IWTs8BNa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:53:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B97916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:53:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC6143D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 87423 for multiple; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:53:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:53:36 -0500 To: "Loren M. Lang" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:53:54 -0000 On Mar 13, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >> >> On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: >> >>> Aperez wrote: >>>> Hello everybdody >>>> >>>> I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that >>>> interview Linus mentioned the following: >>>> >>>> "On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of >>>> having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If >>>> you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD, >>>> you >>>> get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get >>>> NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about >>>> different things." >>> >>> Here's irony posed as a question: >>> >>> ... and how many distros of Linux are there? >> >> I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. >> The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those >> separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and >> default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks, >> whereas >> from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very >> similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and >> have separate "management" teams behind them. > > While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. > FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I > had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use > on > my debian system so I could use my wireless card. > > Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in > FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. Some vendors may be directly patching certain features, for the most part you shouldn't have to download a specific kernel for a feature to work in Linux unless you wanted it pre-packaged. You should be able to update it by downloading the latest features, running the config to enable/disable what features you want compiled into the kernel (or as modules), then compile it. When everything else breaks because the kernel version changed and something specific is linked to something that depends on something from the previous kernel's config, then you get to delve into some real fun. But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. I *think* (and I'm not following the story closely) what Linus was saying is that it's stupid to have so many people working in parallel on such similar cousins...NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. They share code, they share info, but optimize for certain goals and have a lot of redundancy. Linux's kernel is Linux's kernel, modified by individuals but still one big bulky source tree to work from. Is one way less intelligent than others? I don't know. I never studied it :-) All I know is that in general, for most end users, it doesn't matter...if they stick with a particular distro and their sources and packages, then things tend to work. Linux has fragmented so much that it's difficult to get a package aimed at distro A and have it work on distro B despite them both being Linux. For the BSD's, it's pretty much always worked as if it's in the port tree, you have the package in question work. Otherwise, work from sources. And instructions to get a package working on *BSD pretty much always work whereas for Linux you may run Debian but find instructions for what you're trying to do written for an audience running Red Hat, so you need to translate things as you go along. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:56:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7235A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F128643D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:56:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DLu5UQ007662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:56:06 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DLu3Op007660; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:56:03 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:56:03 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk Message-ID: <20050313215603.GO18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313155855.GD60575@seekingfire.com> <3089.192.168.16.79.1110735009.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="L5nTHegdhbHhzmSD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3089.192.168.16.79.1110735009.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kerberos problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:56:11 -0000 --L5nTHegdhbHhzmSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:30:09PM -0000, martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:38:46PM -0000, martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk > > wrote: > >> I followed the handbook guide to setting it up, and it all seems to > >> be > >> working ok. I have now setup telnetd as described to test how it is > >> working. If I have done a kinit previously, it will log in no problem, > >> but if I do not do a kinit (or do a kdestroy before hand) I get - > >> > >> kerberos V5: mk_req (No Such File or direcotry). > >> > >> Any ideas? > > > > That sounds like it's working normally. Without a valid ticket (as shown > > by `klist`), which is cached in a file, services like telent which use > > Kerberos won't authenticate you. > > > > If I'm misunderstanding the problem you're describing, please add some > > more detail as to what you expected to have happen and how reality > > differed :-) > > > Yeah, it could well be the way it is supposed to work. Basically I want to > end up with a centralised login system for my network (i.e. no need to > create usernames on each client). I am planning to use ldap for this, and > as I understand it ldap can use kerberos for the authentication aspect. So > I am atm trying to make sure I have a good understanding of the kerberos > system and have it up and running before I tackle the next part. >=20 > what I was assuming would happen when I try to telnet in without a ticket > (i.e. with running kinit) was that I would get asked for a > username/password, and then I would get issued a ticket, rather than > manually having to kinit first. I believe the difference is that kinit is used to get kerberos credentials after you have logged on by some other means. If you use pam_krb5, then it will be using the kerberos for authentication instead of the local passwd file and also save the credentials. The way your currently doing it the local system still will need the user and passwd to log them in before they can run kinit, with pam_krb5 this can be avoided. >=20 > How would this affect using pam to authenticate i.e. if I want to use > pam_krb to login to the console, I would not be able to run kinit before > hand? >=20 > [Apologies for sending this to you twice tillman , need to be more careful > with the reply to button :)] >=20 > Cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --L5nTHegdhbHhzmSD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLbzbTXoRwEYo9IRAgPKAJ0bKxlJqCEop9W8mQG1d2xailVZMwCfd3pU XHn8WL9phmTL51GZHLH6XEs= =r1Cj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L5nTHegdhbHhzmSD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 21:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D9716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:59:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C19D43D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:59:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DAb6r-0001wm-FN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:58:53 +0100 Received: from 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net ([207.224.118.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:58:53 +0100 Received: from sgnezdov by 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:58:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sergei Gnezdov Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 20 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:59:59 -0000 Sorry, it is a rather generic message, but the problem is a generic as well. I am running my FreeBSD machine on DMZ. I use ipfw and I expose http and smtp ports. I also expose sshd port, but only to a trusted network (work). I'd like to know what is the best way to monitor my machine security. FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only if there is something abnormal. For example, I'd like to know if there is a significant change in network activity. My mailserver might be hijacked and is sending spam. I am running snort, but most of the time it simply reports MySQL warm attempts. Is there a log to see messages sent by sendmail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:00:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5835F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6544B43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DM0qUQ007713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:00:54 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DM0qcc007711; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:00:52 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:00:51 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20050313220051.GP18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050313185757.GA87211@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pleSNuEbvnUYtMxG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050313185757.GA87211@pooh.nagual.st> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: upgrade a couple of nearly identical machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:58 -0000 --pleSNuEbvnUYtMxG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 07:57:57PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I run three machines with FreeBSD-4.11 and lots of the same ports > installed. Upgrading these three must be more easy then running > portupgrade on every machine again and again, upgrading the same ports > multiple times. This is waste of cpu power ;-) >=20 > Does anybody has suggestions on how to handle this situation in a more > practicle way? You could use portupgrade to upgrade one machine with the -W option so it won't clean up after itself, then nfs mount the ports directory on another machine and use portupgrade -wWar to upgrade them if I'm not mistaken. If that doesn't work, you could create a binary package of everything installed and copy them over and install them with pkg_add. >=20 > --=20 > dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 > + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --pleSNuEbvnUYtMxG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLgTbTXoRwEYo9IRAgyLAJ49TbKzke3uq4u06Qx/UFm6Tl4dBwCeKAP0 gLzmhB3iu73HiBymL5TOHlE= =Qi8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pleSNuEbvnUYtMxG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:04:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6D916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C160B43D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 87652 for multiple; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:04:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <92a6a6e8cebda38df9e1ac104a223bcc@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:03:44 -0500 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:02 -0000 On Mar 12, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kirk >>>> Strauser Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:42 AM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? >>>> >>> >>>> You know, I'm no longer sure that's true. I think that spam will >>>> stick around as long as stupid business owners continue to get >>>> suckered into thinking that it's a legitimate means of marketing. >>>> One of my associate's customers (a brick and mortar store) was >>>> being sweet-talked by a spammer into sending a series of >>>> broadcasts. In this situation, the spammer would profit off the >>>> ignorance of that *business owner*. Even if 100% of the messages >>>> were blocked, he'd still get his pay for performing the "service". >>> >>> Didn't anyone tell your associate's customers that spamming is now >>> a felony? And, even if they hire a spammer to do it for them, the >>> law still prosecutes them for the spamming? >> >> Add some teeth to that law and some lawyers who are willing to pursue >> this in volume, and you'd be on to something. As it stands, it's like >> prosecuting jaywalkers. Who bothers? >> > > http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2004/11/03/ > ap1631798.html%E2%80%9D%20 > target= > > (although while the judge did set aside the verdict for DeGroot, > Jayne's > appeal of his conviction went nowhere) > > Keep in mind these are the very first convictions on this. Once the > appeals process is exhausted then we will have set some precident, > which > is vitally important for these to go forward on a large scale. > >> Even junk faxer's get away with that kind of crap despite the fines >> (happened to catch Tom Martino on the radio yesterday talking about >> it...) >> > > That is only because these days most people handling received faxes for > companies are lazy and dumb "administrative assistants" who don't even > know > it's illegal or who to complain to. Actually, the problem (if the two really are similar, junk faxers and spammers and laws against them as they are forming) is that lawyers don't WANT the hassle because the payout is so little compared to the time they put into the case. It's just not worth it. One of the guys Tom Martino had on the radio DID sue a junk faxer. Got a lawyer, went to court, won. The law fines something like (from memory here) $500 per fax. He ended up getting something like forty or fifty bucks after the case was done, after fees. The lawyer he hired asked that he find someone else...it was too much paperwork and footwork for the profit to be made. Tom was discussing a class action lawsuit against some junk faxers. People submitting evidence and names were getting something like $25 for a winning case out of the lawsuit (again, I'm recalling this from memory, so you may have to research this if you're interested in more info). Essentially yes, there are laws against this sort of thing but it is expensive to prosecute and the reward is so meager compared to the effort. On top of that, *good luck collecting from Spammers!!* Especially scuzz that hide behind zombie systems and big pipes in Asia. While I won't discount laziness and stupidity as contributing factors to this continuing, the people acting as crimefighters face a long and hard uphill battle to make it worth the time invested. It may be more worthwhile to start finding people who respond to spam and threaten them with lawsuits so big that they'd have to be bankrupted by summary judgment in order to keep them from continuing to finance the spam kings...then their revenue will stop and then spam will stop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:04:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CA743D55 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2DM4QH6024926; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:04:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:04:25 -0500 To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" , questions@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.4 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:04:30 -0000 At 5:06 AM -0500 3/13/05, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >hello > >i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > >1. it is *VERY* unprofessional For what it's worth, the default for displaying that image has changed for freebsd 6.x. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:11:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A56316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A4843D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DMBHUQ007779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:11:18 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DMBE4h007777; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:11:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:11:14 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050313221114.GQ18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kPJUzav3owWaKxsz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:28 -0000 --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:53:36PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >=20 > On Mar 13, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Loren M. Lang wrote: >=20 > >On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:24:42PM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > >> > >>On Mar 12, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Chris wrote: > >> > >>>Aperez wrote: > >>>>Hello everybdody > >>>> > >>>>I read an interview of Linus Torvald made by Linux Magazine. In that > >>>>interview Linus mentioned the following: > >>>> > >>>>"On the other hand, no, Linux does not have that stupid notion of > >>>>having totally separate kernel development for different issues. If > >>>>you want a secure BSD, you get OpenBSD; if you want a usable BSD,=20 > >>>>you > >>>>get FreeBSD; and if you want BSD on other architectures, you get > >>>>NetBSD. That___s just idiotic, to have different teams worry about > >>>>different things." > >>> > >>>Here's irony posed as a question: > >>> > >>>... and how many distros of Linux are there? > >> > >>I think the difference is that Linus is working on the Linux kernel. > >>The distros, numerous as they are, all run the same kernel. Those > >>separate distros package the other applications and userland apps and > >>default configs. The kernel itself isn't under separate forks,=20 > >>whereas > >>from what I understand the kernels for FBSD/NetBSD/OBSD are very > >>similar, share a lot of crossed-over code, but are not identical and > >>have separate "management" teams behind them. > > > >While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD vs. > >FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of them. I > >had to download and install a very specific kernel from redhat to use=20 > >on > >my debian system so I could use my wireless card. > > > >Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in > >FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. >=20 > Some vendors may be directly patching certain features, for the most=20 > part you shouldn't have to download a specific kernel for a feature to=20 > work in Linux unless you wanted it pre-packaged. You should be able to= =20 > update it by downloading the latest features, running the config to=20 > enable/disable what features you want compiled into the kernel (or as=20 > modules), then compile it. Well, the vendor for my wireless card provided a binary-only driver with a small open-source wrapper. The wrapper was just a piece of garbage though and compiling it for a different kernel didn't work. The driver was designed for redhat's 2.4.18-3 kernel. That kernel had a couple of issues and redhat issued an update, 2.4.18-10. The wireless card driver wouldn't even work on the -10 kernel, it would crash my system everytime, I had to use the -3 kernel to use it at all. This is one of the problems/features of the linux kernel, it doesn't work with binary device drivers like the *BSD kernel do. >=20 > When everything else breaks because the kernel version changed and=20 > something specific is linked to something that depends on something=20 > from the previous kernel's config, then you get to delve into some real= =20 > fun. But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did= =20 > something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be=20 > allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of=20 > enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree whether= =20 > you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that particular=20 > distro is depending on certain features as you have it configured and=20 > you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a matter of tweaking= =20 > that configuration to get it working again. >=20 > I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my=20 > FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the=20 > configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. >=20 > I *think* (and I'm not following the story closely) what Linus was=20 > saying is that it's stupid to have so many people working in parallel=20 > on such similar cousins...NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. They share=20 > code, they share info, but optimize for certain goals and have a lot of= =20 > redundancy. Linux's kernel is Linux's kernel, modified by individuals=20 > but still one big bulky source tree to work from. Is one way less=20 > intelligent than others? I don't know. I never studied it :-) All I=20 > know is that in general, for most end users, it doesn't matter...if=20 > they stick with a particular distro and their sources and packages,=20 > then things tend to work. Linux has fragmented so much that it's=20 > difficult to get a package aimed at distro A and have it work on distro= =20 > B despite them both being Linux. For the BSD's, it's pretty much=20 > always worked as if it's in the port tree, you have the package in=20 > question work. Otherwise, work from sources. And instructions to get=20 > a package working on *BSD pretty much always work whereas for Linux you= =20 > may run Debian but find instructions for what you're trying to do=20 > written for an audience running Red Hat, so you need to translate=20 > things as you go along. --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNLqCbTXoRwEYo9IRAmZSAJ9RqJJizEjxOauBkurVk1p1BCWQYACfcGPS 97stclNWj0JGBVIFslZHZFE= =qmwA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kPJUzav3owWaKxsz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:15:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA7D16A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:15:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF8743D54 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from masterkev28@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1670011rna for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:15:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NwPGi8rtqZ2OeNQIHebKA4nOy6ESJ4RORXoxK4FvecIYIn22sCKhur18mHk7sfVjM4jNQTDOSkh4vypbhZviFGag8yQ8MdqlbHcFjrGl7wdN0EaF8TZHQmxBR+YlbKm1DjCWhUzU8vhAp1IjxHKe9dLV2aE5k7apsLz/lL506Ng= Received: by 10.38.68.47 with SMTP id q47mr4385350rna; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.98.27 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:08:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <449b8e71050313140869219505@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:08:56 -0600 From: masterkev28 masterkev28 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: masterkev28 masterkev28 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:15:40 -0000 Hello everyone, When I do mergemaster -ia, I get the following errors: *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if untrusted users have access to the system. *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 *** /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 ready for use *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 "Makefile", line 76: Could not find bsd.endian.mk "Makefile", line 77: Malformed conditional (${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "1234") "Makefile", line 77: Need an operator "Makefile", line 80: if-less elif "Makefile", line 80: Need an operator "Makefile", line 83: if-less else "Makefile", line 83: Need an operator "Makefile", line 85: if-less endif "Makefile", line 85: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the temproot environment And I checked the /usr/src/etc/Makefile( version: 1.341 2005/03/03), starting at line 76, it has: .include .if ${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "1234" CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= -l PWD_MKDB_ENDIAN= -L .elif ${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "4321" CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= -b PWD_MKDB_ENDIAN= -B .else CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= .endif I believe it's the source of error, I tried commenting them out, but mergemaster failed at some point. The file bsd.endian.mk (version 1.2 2005/02/25) is in the path /usr/src/share/mk/ as well. Any idea? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:37:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C02716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:37:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp12.tin.it (vsmtp12.tin.it [212.216.176.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B530443D1D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:37:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from ims3e.cp.tin.it (212.216.176.219) by vsmtp12.tin.it (7.0.027) id 422481CF005512B9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:37:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.70.226] by ims3e.cp.tin.it with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:37:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:37:42 +0100 Message-ID: <420008E50006F841@ims3e.cp.tin.it> From: v.demartino2@virgilio.it To: "FreeBSD" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 80.117.237.139 Subject: Printing problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:37:47 -0000 I have many problems in setting an epson stylus color 640 up on my FreeBS= D 5.3 box. I compiled apsfilter to be used with the UNIX lpd and obviously configured it with the eps640pl.upp (360x360 dpi) gs driver. To put it in a nutshell my FreeBSD box prints BUT it is : (i) Unbelievably slow (something like 15 minutes for a simple text page!)= (ii) The quality of printing is very poor, ligth and not sharp This is what /var/log/messages says about the printing stuff: ............................. kernel: ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 kernel: ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold kernel: ppbus0: on ppc0 kernel: ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE kernel: Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: kernel: ppbus0: PRINTER ESCPL2,BDC ................................................ lpd[612]: lp: open(/var/spool/lpd/lp/log): No such file or directory VicBSD kernel: Interrupt storm detected on "irq7: lpt0"; throttling inte= rrupt source In device.hints: hint.ppc.0.at=3D"isa" hint.ppc.0.irq=3D"7" Why is that and what should I do? Please help Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 22:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B6516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:54:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8A843D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id D58786CD; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:54:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:54:11 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050313225411.GH60575@seekingfire.com> References: <20050313155855.GD60575@seekingfire.com> <3089.192.168.16.79.1110735009.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3089.192.168.16.79.1110735009.squirrel@www.orbweavers.co.uk> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: kerberos problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:54:12 -0000 On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 05:30:09PM -0000, martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk wrote: > what I was assuming would happen when I try to telnet in without a ticket > (i.e. with running kinit) was that I would get asked for a > username/password, and then I would get issued a ticket, rather than > manually having to kinit first. That would require every client application, like telnet, to support kinit functionality. Think of kinit as "logging onto the network", something that must be performed in a secure way only once per work session. -T -- Zen is like looking for spectacles that are sitting on your nose. - Zen saying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:26:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0031916A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:26:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655B143D39 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAcTn-00069T-Md; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:26:39 -0600 Received: from 24.118.72.147 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:26:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1172.24.118.72.147.1110756408.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:26:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "Brian John" , "Kevin Kinsey" , "Andrew Seguin " , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Re: Re: changed cases, now freebsd won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:26:53 -0000 > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Brian John wrote: > > > > > ad1: WARNING - READDMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying) > > > > > >...and I can't boot into FreeBSD. It just puts me in single user mode. > > > > > >It almost appears as if my hard drives somehow were damaged when I > > >switched cases. However, Windows works just fine. I tried running fsck > > >and I still get the errors. Does anyone have any clue what I can do about > > >this? > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > >/Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > And the only, I repeat *only* thing different is the **case**? > > You have the same motherboard, same power supply .... > > > Yes, all of my components are EXACTLY the same, I just bought a new case. > I guess it is possible that one of my IDE cables all of a sudden went bad, > but again Windows boots fine. I have been running Windows for days now > with no problems. Anything else I can do to try to diagnose this? > > Thanks for the help > > /Brian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Ok, well I ended up getting this to work. Basically I took the IDE cable that I was using for my CD and DVD drives and swapped that one with the cable that I was using for my hard drives. Now it works totally fine. Really strange, but at least it works. /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCCB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEAC43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:28:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from [10.0.0.101] (cpe-66-8-191-104.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.191.104])j2DNSjkM014017; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:28:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4234CC8E.7060508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:28:14 -1000 From: Robert Marella User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:28:49 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:40 pm, Chris wrote: > >>Chris Hodgins wrote: >> >>>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>> >>>>On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>>> >>>>>If I just do: >>>>> >>>>>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>>> >>>>>Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>>Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is >>>>a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so >>>>I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>>> >>>>-Mike >>> >>>How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount >>>of time as portupgrade for each run? >>> >>>Chris >> >>The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) >>portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. >> >>IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. >> >>Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps >>it in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, >>I can pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 > > > Chris, check and see if you have a /usr/ports/packages directory. If > you do then all the packages will end up in /usr/ports/packages/All and > a tree of symlinks will be made under /usr/ports/packages for the ports > that have packages. > > For some reason when you first set up FreeBSD/ports it does not make > the /usr/ports/packages directory so the packages end up in the ports > directory, this isn't a good place for them, here is why: > > When a port is removed, see /usr/ports/MOVED, cvsup should be able to > delete the directory but if a package is setting in there it can't, so > over time you will come across port directories that have just a > package in it and maybe a readme.html file but nothing else. It will > keep things leaner/cleaner if the packages directory exists. I keep > meaning to submit a PR about the missing packages directory but never > seem to get around to it :( > > One other thing just to let you know, I've been testing portmanager > against this new gnome update, when its done there is a bunch of > gstreamer-plugins-* left un-upgraded. I just tried > pkg_delete -f gstreamer-plugins-* on them and let portmanager -u bring > them back in, it seems to be working but I also cvsup'ed and there is > so many new changes it will be awhile before I know for sure. > > Right now I'm telling anyone who asks to try pkg_delete -f > gstreamer-plugins-* first before upgrading with portmanager if they use > gnome. > > -Mike > Mike Like Chris I have packages scattered in my ports directories. I have just started using Portmanager. I have now created /usr/ports/packages directory. Do I need to move the packages one at a time from the individual ports directories? Will running portmanager again find them and move them? Thanks for all the positive, active maintenance of this port. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:32:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF3316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:32:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32F443D41 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:32:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2DNWmUQ008756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:49 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2DNWmkh008754; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:48 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:32:48 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org Message-ID: <20050313233248.GR18080@alzatex.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="D8QxnvyRlKGQJxl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:32:50 -0000 --D8QxnvyRlKGQJxl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 09:58:41PM +0000, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > Sorry, it is a rather generic message, but the problem is a generic as > well. >=20 > I am running my FreeBSD machine on DMZ. I use ipfw and I expose http > and smtp ports. I also expose sshd port, but only to a trusted > network (work). I'd like to know what is the best way to monitor my > machine security. >=20 > FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending > messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only > if there is something abnormal. What happens when someone breaks in and disables it from sending email? Think of it as a kind of heartbeat. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --D8QxnvyRlKGQJxl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNM2gbTXoRwEYo9IRApZvAJ422U2RHsgHDeK7ywTS9i5rTRzVqgCeLPcb i+q28uT1NcCQzDp2h7AcApc= =rKKR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --D8QxnvyRlKGQJxl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FF516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:39:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004A143D2D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:39:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 89737 for multiple; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:39:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <932306becc748b381634aac3df646c87@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:39:01 -0500 To: "Michael C. Shultz" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Chris Hodgins Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:39:19 -0000 On Mar 13, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:38 pm, you wrote: >> Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>>> If I just do: >>>> >>>> cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>> >>>> Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>> >>> Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is >>> a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so >>> I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>> >>> -Mike >> >> How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of >> time as portupgrade for each run? >> >> Chris > > That is a tough question here is how it tends to work for me: > > First I run it everyday since I'm developing it I have to know if there > is anything changed in ports that is going to cause portmanager to > crash. Most days it takes less than an hour, but sometimes when > just one lower level port like gettext for example is updated it may > take 24 hours to finish. I'm using a 1ghz machine with both gnome > and kde (all together about 300 installed ports) as an example. > > Here is exactly how portmanager works: > > First dependent ports that are out of date are upgraded, then > everything > that depends on them are upgraded. portupgrade does not work this same > way so the time comparison is very tough to predict. Just to add some experiences, I've been using Portmanager for probably a few months now (would need to check through old postings and notes to find out for sure) and have found it to be about the same amount of time for doing updates as portupgrade, but there's less babysitting of the server and I've not had any trouble using Portmanager. There was a bug that caused a loop in some updates but Michael fixed it in a very short amount of time and released the fixed version. It doesn't seem to rely on the index for the ports, so it may actually be faster. I don't have to run any operations to fix or reindex my ports as I've had to do sometimes in the past with portupgrade. Portmanager has made most of my updating a no-brainer, and I've been thankful that Michael was fast to fix problems when I reported what little I ran into. And this is on an in-use production server....I trust it with the updates, so either it's a program that works very well or I've been very lucky :-) I'd definitely recommend new users try using Portmanager for keeping their ports up to date. It is simple and straightforward to use and doesn't confuse newer users with details like manipulating the ports index. It's just a "portmanager -u" and off it goes...check in once in awhile to see how it's progressing and that's it. Makes updating as simple as the process of installing a new port :-) -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:46:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EAC16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:46:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25F243D3F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:46:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A1C60D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:46:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33610-06; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD7560D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4234D0AD.5070004@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:45:49 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bart Silverstrim References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> <932306becc748b381634aac3df646c87@chrononomicon.com> In-Reply-To: <932306becc748b381634aac3df646c87@chrononomicon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: Chris Hodgins cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:46:02 -0000 Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > Portmanager has made most of my updating a no-brainer, and I've been > thankful that Michael was fast to fix problems when I reported what > little I ran into. And this is on an in-use production server....I > trust it with the updates, so either it's a program that works very > well or I've been very lucky :-) > > I'd definitely recommend new users try using Portmanager for keeping > their ports up to date. It is simple and straightforward to use and > doesn't confuse newer users with details like manipulating the ports > index. It's just a "portmanager -u" and off it goes...check in once > in awhile to see how it's progressing and that's it. Makes updating > as simple as the process of installing a new port :-) > > -Bart Agreed - I to use it on a production boxen - and as Bart has said, either it's a great product or I have been lucky also. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A148616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3115F43D48 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DE29A1C0014C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:47:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C564E1C00145 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:47:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050313234740808.C564E1C00145@mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:47:40 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <749379596.20050314004740@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1172.24.118.72.147.1110756408.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> References: <1172.24.118.72.147.1110756408.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: changed cases, now freebsd won't boot! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:47:42 -0000 Brian John writes: > Ok, well I ended up getting this to work. Basically I took the IDE cable > that I was using for my CD and DVD drives and swapped that one with the > cable that I was using for my hard drives. Now it works totally fine. > Really strange, but at least it works. I seem to recall that there's more than one type of IDE cable. When I assembled my FreeBSD server, the manual was very specific about which cable to use for which devices. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:50:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B217E16A4CF for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B1243D31 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from masterkev28@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1621663rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:49:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c9CssQ0BGC/p6fp/7t3SDgAqg5tI31oS1z2W6Q6o7f0xGeBwTnQ/guLmwwiUALxN1Zsv8PmKpipxABfkCAy0b+UvColMmBKZAqHplYeNYLLruttmONfqoS5Bi7PBrs+VLDj0O4LUrIxARIF9yy8+ixP1/FUkxljaBMWT77Hok1E= Received: by 10.38.161.42 with SMTP id j42mr536720rne; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.98.27 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:49:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <449b8e710503131449590b91f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:49:54 -0600 From: masterkev28 masterkev28 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mergemaster -ia failed on some errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: masterkev28 masterkev28 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:50:05 -0000 Hello everyone, When I do mergemaster -ia, I get the following errors: *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if untrusted users have access to the system. *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 *** /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 ready for use *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot.0313.15.35.39 "Makefile", line 76: Could not find bsd.endian.mk "Makefile", line 77: Malformed conditional (${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "1234") "Makefile", line 77: Need an operator "Makefile", line 80: if-less elif "Makefile", line 80: Need an operator "Makefile", line 83: if-less else "Makefile", line 83: Need an operator "Makefile", line 85: if-less endif "Makefile", line 85: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the temproot environment And I checked the /usr/src/etc/Makefile( version: 1.341 2005/03/02), starting at line 76, it has: .include .if ${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "1234" CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= -l PWD_MKDB_ENDIAN= -L .elif ${TARGET_ENDIANNESS} == "4321" CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= -b PWD_MKDB_ENDIAN= -B .else CAP_MKDB_ENDIAN= .endif I believe it's the source of error, I tried commenting them out, but mergemaster failed at some point. The file bsd.endian.mk (version 1.2 2005/02/25) is in the path /usr/src/share/mk/ as well. Any idea? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:56:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:56:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brian.vpk.bme.hu (brian.vpk.bme.hu [152.66.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE5843D5D for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:56:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ricsip@mailbox.hu) Received: from brian.vpk.bme.hu ([152.66.236.2] ident=root) by brian.vpk.bme.hu with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DAcj3-0000cu-00 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:42:25 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050314004626.0270e450@mailbox.hu> X-Sender: ricsip@mailbox.hu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:56:30 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E1sztor?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Rich=E1rd?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Filesystem creation with integrated bad-block detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:56:30 -0000 I wonder if it would be possible to implement under freeebsd an interesting feature which can be found in linux: mkfs.ext2(8) ....... -c Check the device for bad blocks before creating the file system. If this option is specified twice, then a slower, destructive, read-write test is used instead of a fast read-only test. ... I searched the archive for this subject, and i found that simple answer that modern hard drives have the so called spare sectors, and if they cant do these reallocations transparently because they ran out of those reserved sectors -> throw the drive into the trash. But what abou using freebsd on older machines with hard drives that dont support spare sectors? Having a few bad sectors doesnt mean that a 4-5 Gb driver is useless because one isnt able to mark those few sectors. ricsip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 23:58:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FCB16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:58:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386BC43D46 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050313235349014001v95je>; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:53:49 +0000 Message-ID: <4234D485.309@munat.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:02:13 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD User Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [asking again] did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:58:39 -0000 Don't mean to be a pest, but I can't believe no one has anything to say about this... :-) b -------------- previous message ------------------------------------ This morning, after running cvsup and portsdb, portversion told me I had a stale dependency in linux-sun-jdk. This didn't surprise me, as I had installed the jdk yesterday (and what a pain that was). So, I did as it suggested and ran pkgdb -F.... it asked me some questions... well, I'll just paste the output below. The question/problem is that now portversion says that I need to upgrade 85 ports! When I checked a few days ago, I had nothing to upgrade, so I have a feeling I messed something up. Any help would be appreciated. Ben output: (starting from end of cvsup run...) Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully venus1@~: portsdb -uU Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: freeciv-gtk2-1.14.2 Done. done [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 12565 port entries found .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000..... ..... done] venus1@~: portversion -l "<" [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 263 packages found (-0 +4) .... done] Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 --> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 -- manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. venus1@~: pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'multimedia/nautilus-media': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'multimedia/nautilus-media' was removed on 2005-03-12 because: "Deprecated, and no longer builds" -> Hint: nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 is required by the following package(s): gnome2-lite-2.8.3 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 ? [no] no Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 (x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:37%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_2 (x11/linux-XFree86-libs): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-expat-1.95.5_2 (textproc/linux-expat): linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:31%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Cyclic dependencies: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> (linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) Unlink linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 ? [yes] yes Command failed [exit code 1]: "grep -v \"^linux\\\\-sun\\\\-jdk\\\\-1\\\\.4\\\\.2\\\\.07_1\\\$\" < /var/db/pkg/linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1/+REQUIRED_BY > /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY77658.0" venus1@~: portversion -l "<" ORBit2 < arts < atk < desktop-file-utils < eel < enlightenment < eog < epiphany < fileroller < firefox < fluxbox-devel < fluxconf < (etc... 85 in all.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F172B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:06:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA1843D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:06:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2E06eNU009604; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:06:40 GMT Message-ID: <4234D6D7.9060804@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:07 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Munat References: <4234D485.309@munat.com> In-Reply-To: <4234D485.309@munat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: [asking again] did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:06:49 -0000 Ben Munat wrote: > Don't mean to be a pest, but I can't believe no one has anything to say > about this... :-) > b > > -------------- previous message ------------------------------------ > > This morning, after running cvsup and portsdb, portversion told me I had > a stale > dependency in linux-sun-jdk. This didn't surprise me, as I had installed > the jdk yesterday > (and what a pain that was). > > So, I did as it suggested and ran pkgdb -F.... it asked me some > questions... well, I'll > just paste the output below. The question/problem is that now > portversion says that I need > to upgrade 85 ports! When I checked a few days ago, I had nothing to > upgrade, so I have a > feeling I messed something up. Any help would be appreciated. > > Ben > > output: > > (starting from end of cvsup run...) > > Shutting down connection to server > Finished successfully > venus1@~: portsdb -uU > Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please > wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX > entry: freeciv-gtk2-1.14.2 > Done. > done > [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 12565 port > entries found > .........1000.........2000.........3000.........4000.........5000.........6000.........7000.........8000.........9000.........10000.........11000.........12000..... > > ..... done] > venus1@~: portversion -l "<" > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 263 > packages found (-0 +4) > .... done] > Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 --> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 -- > manually run > 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. > venus1@~: pkgdb -F > ---> Checking the package registry database > Stale origin: 'multimedia/nautilus-media': perhaps moved or obsoleted. > -> The port 'multimedia/nautilus-media' was removed on 2005-03-12 because: > "Deprecated, and no longer builds" > -> Hint: nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 is required by the following package(s): > gnome2-lite-2.8.3 > -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... > -> No files installed by nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 have been overwritten > by other packages. > Deinstall nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 ? [no] no > Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-fontconfig-2.1_2 > (x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig): > linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:37%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes > Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) > Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> > linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_2 > (x11/linux-XFree86-libs): > linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:26%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes > Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) > Stale dependency: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-expat-1.95.5_2 > (textproc/linux-expat): > linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 (score:31%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] yes > Fixed. (-> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) > Cyclic dependencies: linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> (linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1) > Unlink linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 -> linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1 ? [yes] yes > Command failed [exit code 1]: "grep -v > \"^linux\\\\-sun\\\\-jdk\\\\-1\\\\.4\\\\.2\\\\.07_1\\\$\" < > /var/db/pkg/linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.07_1/+REQUIRED_BY > > /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY77658.0" > venus1@~: portversion -l "<" > ORBit2 < > arts < > atk < > desktop-file-utils < > eel < > enlightenment < > eog < > epiphany < > fileroller < > firefox < > fluxbox-devel < > fluxconf < > > (etc... 85 in all.) > You could always play it safe, backup all the good stuff on your system and just cvsup again. Then install portmanager and start it running and go to bed. If it updates everything so be it. At least you will feel a little more confident about your system after that. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:08:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0799016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F62143D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wombat236@comcast.net) Received: from 204.127.197.111 (rwcrwbc16.attbi.com[204.127.197.126]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050314000803014001loure>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:03 +0000 Received: from [24.9.80.66] by 204.127.197.111; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:03 +0000 From: wombat236@comcast.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:03 +0000 Message-Id: <031420050008.18340.4234D5E300051A26000047A42205886442C0CCCD9B0E0D030199@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: d29tYmF0MjM2QGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: CVSROOT directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:08:15 -0000 Hi Guys, I downloaded the entire CVS repository (cvs tree via ftp) to a local machine. However, I did not see a CVSROOT directory. This is the directory that contains all the CVS admin files when you first create a repository. Do I need to download this directory before I can start using the repository? Note that I want all the versions and history, that is why I downloaded the whole tree. I did see this directory via the web interface, but not in any of the ftp files. Thanks! wombat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:12:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C4016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93F443D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00GVNF8NITE1@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:12:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51F792CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:21 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: Alistair Sutton Message-id: <200503131612.22422.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Chris Hodgins Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:25 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 04:06 pm, Alistair Sutton wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:25 +0000, Chris Hodgins > > wrote: > > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just > > thunderbird that does this? > > It will create packages for every port that it updates and place them > under the usual /usr/ports/packages structure. > > Al I should mention Al here provided the code to add an interactive update option to portmanager. With version 0.2.9_3 portmanager-ui will let you make Y/N decisions on which ports to update. I've just submitted it to FreeBSD so should be in the Tree sometime in the next 24 hours. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:12:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8082516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CF43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1565264rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PKVuhq6vJkfnb6YBfa7jpy1+PP72npXVXCEYRNRBJ03MvJ+6TFvkiQiAitLomIMhda8A0wk3gFmLWfYE6TAh23oytVs4VMfs3IWE7cVF5s27KhLu6Z4QaSa/mNzPa8bJIUqNPG0feI/hrHahUd570D7iYcB5Wm/LLfPw8BryRdQ= Received: by 10.38.208.65 with SMTP id f65mr4805391rng; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:06:14 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: Chris Hodgins In-Reply-To: <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:12:57 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:25 +0000, Chris Hodgins wrote: > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just thunderbird > that does this? It will create packages for every port that it updates and place them under the usual /usr/ports/packages structure. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FE616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331D143D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 008C311E8B2; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:22:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:22:02 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050314002202.GB75030@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <031420050008.18340.4234D5E300051A26000047A42205886442C0CCCD9B0E0D030199@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <031420050008.18340.4234D5E300051A26000047A42205886442C0CCCD9B0E0D030199@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: CVSROOT directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:21:46 -0000 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005, wombat236@comcast.net wrote: >Hi Guys, >I downloaded the entire CVS repository (cvs tree via ftp) to a local >machine. However, I did not see a CVSROOT directory. This is the >directory that contains all the CVS admin files when you first create a >repository. Do I need to download this directory before I can start using >the repository? Note that I want all the versions and history, that is why >I downloaded the whole tree. The command ``cvs -d path-to-cvsroot init'' will create the intial CVSROOT. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Intellectually, teachers fall between education theorists and bright cocker spaniels. (Probably closer to the education theorists. The AKC has been doing wonders with spaniels.) If you think I'm kidding look at the GREs for education majors, whose scores are the lowest of all fields, and remember that these are the smart ones.'' -- http://www.FredOnEverything.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 00:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E337816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:22:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08AF43D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1569756rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:22:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IyU5kYgUvkMuAfhr0oXBrS47qJe/QnLRF9QdfYmOC39GTrmsS3uRDws0XmrzfzjFV2gGIHudUZjyl2OZnp/7EFFA644sG6eVcbict1+V1XSRQOqfi2Tiyaf8MarE/zlNuacZKlhfhBL7kU8mB6rqgwXlpUO4rcGbCisBaZo0xOk= Received: by 10.38.11.1 with SMTP id 1mr1136149rnk; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:15:27 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503131612.22422.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> <200503131612.22422.ringworm01@gmail.com> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Chris Hodgins Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:22:10 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:21 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 04:06 pm, Alistair Sutton wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:25 +0000, Chris Hodgins > > > > wrote: > > > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just > > > thunderbird that does this? > > > > It will create packages for every port that it updates and place them > > under the usual /usr/ports/packages structure. > > > > Al > > I should mention Al here provided the code to add an interactive > update option to portmanager. With version 0.2.9_3 portmanager-ui > will let you make Y/N decisions on which ports to update. I've just > submitted it to FreeBSD so should be in the Tree sometime in the next > 24 hours. And so my plan for world domination starts ;-) Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:03:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40F116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:03:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB3E43D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:03:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00EESHL2ALU0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:03:03 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67D212CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:03:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:02:59 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: Alistair Sutton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131702.59762.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:03:03 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 04:11 pm, Alistair Sutton wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800, Michael C. Shultz > > wrote: > > One other thing just to let you know, I've been testing portmanager > > against this new gnome update, when its done there is a bunch of > > gstreamer-plugins-* left un-upgraded. > > I'm about 3% through the upgrade for that now. I had it going this > afternoon when I was mucking around at a friend's workplace. > > I'm sure I've seen it mention that some gstreamer-plugins needed > upgrading but I've not paid that much attention :-) > > > I just tried > > pkg_delete -f gstreamer-plugins-* on them and let portmanager -u > > bring them back in, it seems to be working but I also cvsup'ed and > > there is so many new changes it will be awhile before I know for > > sure. > > I'll let you know if my system gets upgraded without any issues or if > the gstreamer stuff still needs manual attention. > > Al Thanks All, its running OK on my system but there are 55 more ports still to upgrade! I hope yours is a little faster. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:24:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFAD16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:24:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51003.mail.yahoo.com (web51003.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7631F43D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72193 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2005 01:24:54 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=2wNu5hZT99ek5lYEvMs/i+p2UcNkg5FsnQtStWg3l1tDnIe7xkMUH1RpSvQ1Spy8Ywd1ZCoQWfN00dyrMnp4469XBMGiM4fBcmOtDK6RNm51RSTkRrfNi+kYmN5y+3/D8sG9k5tRTzxW144aePgyEOhFTz26R8F9JUtOZe8n/0U= ; Message-ID: <20050314012454.72191.qmail@web51003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.113.106.60] by web51003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:24:54 CST Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:24:54 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: Chris In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: gtk2 problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:24:56 -0000 Hi again, so I have run the script and everything seem to run smmothly, but... 2 things I noticed are not right, (1) gtk-gnutella still not compiled, here is the output: cc -c -I../../../.. -I../../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -DGUI_SOURCES -DCURDIR=src/ui/gtk/gtk2 -O -O -pipe -I/usr/local/include/ downloads.c In file included from downloads.c:30: pbarcellrenderer.h:57:1: warning: "GTK_TYPE_CELL_RENDERER_PROGRESS" redefined In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:53, from ../../gtk/gui.h:31, from downloads.c:26: /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:34:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from downloads.c:30: pbarcellrenderer.h:62: error: redefinition of typedef 'GtkCellRendererProgress' /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:41: error: previous declaration of 'GtkCellRendererProgress' was here pbarcellrenderer.h:63: error: redefinition of typedef 'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' /usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:42: error: previous declaration of 'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' was here pbarcellrenderer.h:66: error: redefinition of `struct _GtkCellRendererProgress' pbarcellrenderer.h:71: error: redefinition of `struct _GtkCellRendererProgressClass' *** Error code 1 (2) the xfce4-session was re-compiled and installed, but when executed, xfce4-session still asked for the old gtklib 400 somthing instead of the 600 version. (sorry about the unprofessional writing). any idea? thanks!! --- Chris wrote: > T.F. Cheng wrote: > > >Hi, > > just about to install velocity but bump into a > lot > >of dependency upgrade, like atk (1.8-> 1.9) and > gtk2 > >(2.4 -> 2.6) and pango, etc. anyway, gnomevfs2 > failed > >to compile: > > > >gmake[2]: Entering directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' > >/usr/local/bin/orbit-idl-2 -I `pkg-config > >--variable=idldir bonobo-activation-2.0` > >./GNOME_VFS_Daemon.idl > >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object > >"libgobject-2.0.so.400" not found, required by > >"orbit-idl-2" > >gmake[2]: *** [GNOME_VFS_Daemon.h] Error 1 > >gmake[2]: Leaving directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0/libgnomevfs' > >gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > >gmake[1]: Leaving directory > >`/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2/work/gnome-vfs-2.10.0' > >gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > >*** Error code 2 > > > > > >and want to reinstall gtk-gnutella, since gtk > related > >stuff are change, but this is what I got: > > > >cc -c -I../../../.. -I../../.. -I../.. -DXTHREADS > >-DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 > >-I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > >-I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > >-I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 > >-I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include > >-I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 > >-I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include > >-I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include > >-DGUI_SOURCES -DCURDIR=src/ui/gtk/gtk2 -O -O -pipe > >-I/usr/local/include/ downloads.c > >In file included from downloads.c:30: > >pbarcellrenderer.h:57:1: warning: > >"GTK_TYPE_CELL_RENDERER_PROGRESS" redefined > >In file included from > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:53, > > from ../../gtk/gui.h:31, > > from downloads.c:26: > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:34:1: > >warning: this is the location of the previous > >definition > >In file included from downloads.c:30: > >pbarcellrenderer.h:62: error: redefinition of > typedef > >'GtkCellRendererProgress' > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:41: > >error: previous declaration of > >'GtkCellRendererProgress' was here > >pbarcellrenderer.h:63: error: redefinition of > typedef > >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' > >/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtkcellrendererprogress.h:42: > >error: previous declaration of > >'GtkCellRendererProgressClass' was here > >pbarcellrenderer.h:66: error: redefinition of > `struct > >_GtkCellRendererProgress' > >pbarcellrenderer.h:71: error: redefinition of > `struct > >_GtkCellRendererProgressClass' > >*** Error code 1 > > > >I am not sure if this is due to gtk2 or something, > >would anybody help me? thank you! > > > > > > > > > > What does /usr/ports/UPDATING tell you?! > > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 > FF80 C01B C363 > > Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:25:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6076616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0AF43D53 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2E1PCCh012160; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:25:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:34:09 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: David Fleck References: <7ae53963050311004747c48d5d@mail.gmail.com> <20050313110022.G98716@grond.sourballs.org> In-Reply-To: <20050313110022.G98716@grond.sourballs.org> (from david.fleck@mchsi.com on Sun Mar 13 12:08:43 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110764049l.17082l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Realplay10GOLD] Error: ELF binary type "0" not known X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:25:22 -0000 On 03/13/05 12:08:43, David Fleck wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Jason Henson wrote: >=20 >> On 03/11/05 03:47:27, P.H.Tung wrote: >>> I successfully installed Realplayer10GOLD on FreeBSD released 5.3 >>> When I run realplay from console, I got following error: >>> ELF binary type "0" not known. >>> /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" >>> unexpected >>>=20 >>> What does it means? any advises? >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >>=20 >> Sounds like a compiler error? Check man brandelf. >> $ brandelf -l >> known ELF types are: FreeBSD(9) Linux(3) Solaris(6) SVR4(0) >>=20 >> You could try to rebrand it to type 9. >>=20 >> as root: >>=20 >> brandelf -f 9 /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin >>=20 >> But the syntax error, how would that get there? Try to make =20 >> reinstall after a make distclean if branding fails. >=20 >=20 > It's a little more mysterious than that. > the Realplayer port is a Linux binary, so branding it for FreeBSD =20 > probably won't work. But here's what's odd -- I just installed =20 > linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1, and it seems to have installed OK. When I =20 > check its branding, I get: >=20 > bender# brandelf /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > File '/usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin' is of brand 'SVR4' (0). >=20 > so it's not branded for Linux or FreeBSD! And yet it seems to be ok. >=20 > And the 'Syntax error' the OP is getting makes no sense at all. >=20 >=20 > My suggestion at this point - do >=20 > brandelf /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin > file /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin >=20 > and report the results back. >=20 >=20 > -- > David Fleck > david.fleck@mchsi.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ The 0 branding is for any non-BSD (i.e. System V based) Unix, like =20 linux too. System V based Unixes (SVR4, Solaris 2.x, SCO ODT 3.0, AIX, =20 A/UX, DELL, ...). They will run on BSD. I used to not put the -=20 freeBSD in my f@h client and I would run into this. I rebrand them and =20 all is well. I might should download the correct ones just to be safe? You say you installed, did you do a make install using ports? If not =20 remove the program and use the port. If you did use the port then here =20 is some more info. Some programs can have `-DSVR4' added to the CFLAGS in their Makefile =20 to generate a SVR4 bin. Maybe you should cd to /usr/ports/multimedia/=20 realplayer(right spot?) and do a make config, and check the makefile =20 for such flags. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:41:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820FF16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:41:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661FB43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2E1fJLv022150 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:41:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:50:16 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk><4234A933.10301@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4234A933.10301@cis.strath.ac.uk> (from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk on Sun Mar 13 15:57:23 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110765016l.17082l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:41:24 -0000 On 03/13/05 15:57:23, Chris Hodgins wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:38 pm, you wrote: >>=20 >>> Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> If I just do: >>>>>=20 >>>>> cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>>>=20 >>>>> Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is >>>> a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so >>>> I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>>>=20 >>>> -Mike >>>=20 >>> How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount =20 >>> of >>> time as portupgrade for each run? >>>=20 >>> Chris >>=20 >>=20 >> That is a tough question here is how it tends to work for me: >>=20 >> First I run it everyday since I'm developing it I have to know if =20 >> there >> is anything changed in ports that is going to cause portmanager to >> crash. Most days it takes less than an hour, but sometimes when >> just one lower level port like gettext for example is updated it may >> take 24 hours to finish. I'm using a 1ghz machine with both gnome >> and kde (all together about 300 installed ports) as an example. >>=20 >> Here is exactly how portmanager works: >>=20 >> First dependent ports that are out of date are upgraded, then =20 >> everything >> that depends on them are upgraded. portupgrade does not work this =20 >> same way so the time comparison is very tough to predict. >>=20 >> -Mike >> >=20 > Ah I see. So portmanager is sort of doing the equivelant to: > portupgrade -fr myOutOfDatePort ?? >=20 > Does this not mean it will always be slower than portupgrade? If it =20 > a low-level port it is going to take ages but if it is high-level it =20 > will start to get closer to the time it takes for portupgrade to run. =20 > Never faster? Or am I missing something. >=20 > Is there a reason it does it this way over portupgrades method? >=20 > Chris > _______________________________________________ I think there is no big difference between just running portupgrade vs =20 portmanager. I would say portmanager is better and faster because you =20 don't need to baby sit, it is really automagical, and there is no =20 messing with an index. To upgrade one high level port will take that =20 same time on both, if you don't have to pkgdb -F or fiddle with the =20 index. If it is a low level port portmanager will likely take longer, =20 but get it done right the first time. If portupgrade finishes first it =20 likely missed some cross dependancies and you will have to do it by =20 hand after you have done some trouble shooting. The best part about =20 portmanager for is NO RUBY! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481F116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0B43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2E1ppCh009273 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:51:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:00:48 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313171401.08B0D16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: (from john.destefano@gmail.com on Sun Mar 13 15:44:32 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110765648l.17082l.2l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:51:54 -0000 On 03/13/05 15:44:32, John DeStefano wrote: > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.ht= ml >=20 > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > popping in.. >=20 > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > information. >=20 > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? >=20 > Thanks, as always, > John > _______________________________________________ FreeBSD is very robust with power failures, but that was a reset =20 button. Do you have acpi on? When I hit my power button every once in =20 a while my system shuts down properly. Try booting into single user =20 mode and do a manual mount and fsck. And just to help you out: $ sysctl -ad | grep pipekva kern.ipc.maxpipekva: Pipe KVA limit kern.ipc.pipekva: Pipe KVA usage $ sysctl -a | grep pipekva kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 8634368 kern.ipc.pipekva: 344064 $ uname -a FreeBSD BARTON 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #5: Mon Mar 7 =20 20:51:09 EST 2005 jason@BARTON:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINAMORI i386 $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 01:54:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D45316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:54:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B017743D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1675240rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:53:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bPm5JsUDBg1fsdBw1sB5izwjIK6alhf78oNbuyRefYd24lwEZuc30z6uzRpcR4aHpdE2X/74+AQRRSEkHAp2CxeidX72ULkDp2f94OU4Q1rGOkqEw53J6ojvFi4jQsqaapj7Zl1Txrk7f/5551zZqRfUvyy5Dzg/cv528hxuZRU= Received: by 10.38.102.71 with SMTP id z71mr343495rnb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:25:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:25:47 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:54:14 -0000 What happens if you mount something in a directorie that contains other directories ? Can you mount different devices in the same directorie ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 02:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97B016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D3D43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2E2FA0V009387 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:15:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:24:08 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4234D485.309@munat.com> In-Reply-To: <4234D485.309@munat.com> (from bent@munat.com on Sun Mar 13 19:02:13 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110767048l.17082l.3l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: [asking again] did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:15:14 -0000 On 03/13/05 19:02:13, Ben Munat wrote: > Don't mean to be a pest, but I can't believe no one has anything to =20 > say about this... :-) > b > I would dump portupgrade and the index stuff and use portmanager. It =20 makes life easy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 02:20:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13E316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:20:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615FD43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:20:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2E2KCkc007719 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:20:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:29:10 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <449b8e71050313140869219505@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <449b8e71050313140869219505@mail.gmail.com> (from masterkev28@gmail.com on Sun Mar 13 17:08:56 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110767350l.17082l.4l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:20:16 -0000 On 03/13/05 17:08:56, masterkev28 masterkev28 wrote: > Hello everyone, > When I do mergemaster -ia, I get the following errors: >=20 > *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, > /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if > untrusted > users have access to the system. > Why are you using -ia, they are th opposit in the man page. You =20 should: # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel # reboot After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single =20 user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). Then run: # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 02:26:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E889616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:26:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nimsay-networks.com (trance.nimsay-networks.com [82.96.86.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DF243D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:26:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@bsdunix.us) Received: (qmail 12466 invoked by uid 1015); 14 Mar 2005 02:26:42 -0000 Received: from 67.143.7.33 by trance (envelope-from , uid 1015) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(67.143.7.33):. Processed in 3.255358 secs); 14 Mar 2005 02:26:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.19.0.219?) (eric@bsdunix.us@67.143.7.33) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 02:26:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:33:46 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:26:46 -0000 My ugly mouse hack: I am sure this question has already been answered, although I couldn't find the answer via google. Hardware and Software: Logitech USB cordless mouse M/N:M-RN67 P/N:851390-0000 w/ ps/2 adapter Auravision slimseries ps/2 keyboard /w wire a starband kvm switch, 4 port PS/2 for both keyboard and mouse w/ extern power source. FreeBSD 5.3 stable cpu=2.8 cel Using the ps/2 adapter with my mouse, was required to use the kvm. dmesg reports this for my mouse by default: psm0: flags 0x24 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 the mouse will not work. appending: hint.psm.0.flags="0x204" to /boot/device.hints I now get this via dmesg: psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 I then edited /etc/rc.conf and disabled my console mouse (moused) (which I would prefere worked) moused_enable="NO" I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" notice that is the "b" psm device that i am using which is for blocking mode or bpsm At any rate, the mouse now works in X, through the kvm, and through usb to ps/2 adapter. I hope this helps someone else :) YMMV, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 02:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7536416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA6A43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xmisoy@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1695906rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KnYC84LMPDq6yYLQ1IitgpijJZNuL9zmoDNc3RiHdfioWVVAb/cHLhsKpY0EtC9yBIciXs9taPBId1CyNsqg6wfF3QVLzG57AKYDl+z6qrPi2hLhpDu6BwdAjh+Ktf3e8PE+JpY8H8AoscYb5GN/CgixQDuVSgO1q6tE+PiMiEM= Received: by 10.38.160.49 with SMTP id i49mr1128306rne; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.44 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 18:05:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36f5bbba0503131805376c587@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:05:05 +0000 From: "Edwin D. Vinas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sharing a DSL connection using FreeBSD-5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edwin D. Vinas" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:35:50 -0000 hello every one! i have a freebsd machine which i want to use to share my DSL connection to a LAN. basically, i have tested my FreeBSD-4.10 to connect to my DSL provider which gave me a static IP address. using a setup with one LAN card and correctly setup IP address & settings, I was able to access the Internet painlessly. now, i bought a new LAN card which I will connect to my LAN switch. the old LAN card will be my interface to the WAN (DSL provider). i haven't done anything to share the Internet coz I want to have an idea from you on what are the next steps in confguring my FreeBSD to share Internet. i will first upgrade my OS to FreeBSD-5.3 which is the latest stable version of FreeBSD. here's my ifconfig which shows that my newly installed card is recognized together with my working LAN card which is currently connected to my DSL internet provider. %ifconfig rl0: flags=3D8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:11:95:26:4e:58 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier dc0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 inet 210.125.155.126 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 210.125.155.255 inet6 fe80::280:adff:fe00:572c%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:80:ad:00:57:2c media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lp0: flags=3D8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=3D8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=3Dc010 mtu 552 according to some FreeBSD documentations, i need to configure my machine as a gateway and use NAT. others also say about using a firewall. im concerned on the ease of maintaining the FreeBSD as a DSL router. im also concerned on filtered ports or port forwarding which may block certain ports such as Yahoo messenger and online games. if i use FreeBSD+NAT+firewall, would Windows clients that runs on specific ports (i.e. YM and online games) still be able to work? before, i used WinRoute and WinGate but there are instances when I can't get to work certain applications due to the limitations of the gateway. does anyone here can show me the steps I need to follow to be able to setup a FreeBSD-based DSL internet sharing server which is easy to maintain, fast and secured? thank you very much! -edwin P.S. I love FreeBSD! --=20 -- Edwin D. Vi=F1as http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:04:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4265A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:04:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A455A43D5E for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:04:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A5960D8 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:04:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34329-08 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:04:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8E260D4 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:03:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:03:59 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:04:03 -0000 Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? -- Best regards, Chris RACF is a four letter word. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACCA16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:11:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5125F43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:11:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2E3Dfsq075280; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost)j2E3Df2a075277; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) X-Authentication-Warning: april.chuckr.org: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Eric In-Reply-To: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> Message-ID: <20050313215820.B74062@april.chuckr.org> References: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:11:49 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Eric wrote: > My ugly mouse hack: > I am sure this question has already been answered, although I couldn't > find the answer via google. > > Hardware and Software: > Logitech USB cordless mouse M/N:M-RN67 P/N:851390-0000 w/ ps/2 adapter > Auravision slimseries ps/2 keyboard /w wire > a starband kvm switch, 4 port PS/2 for both keyboard and mouse w/ extern > power source. > FreeBSD 5.3 stable cpu=2.8 cel > > Using the ps/2 adapter with my mouse, was required to use the kvm. > > dmesg reports this for my mouse by default: > > psm0: flags 0x24 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > > the mouse will not work. > > appending: hint.psm.0.flags="0x204" > to /boot/device.hints > > I now get this via dmesg: > > psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > > I then edited /etc/rc.conf and disabled my console mouse (moused) (which > I would prefere worked) > > moused_enable="NO" > > I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" I am running FreeBSD-6.0-current, but I bet it works for you like it works (just fine) for me. Try it, what have you got to lose? However, if it works, you owe us a usage report, Sirrah! Anyhow, FreeBSD is not terribly willing to share the mouse. When it boots, the stupid thing will start 'moused' processes on both mouses. Check this with: ps -ax | grep mouse if it's like I think it is, one of the lines that come back will report a device filename of ums0. You need this process dead, dead, dead. You *could*, I suppose, edit /etc/usbd.conf ... After you do that, the stuff you have above for Xorg isn't enough either, cause you left out the wheel. take those lines out and replace them with Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Don't forget, at the top: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Try this, tell me how it works. > > notice that is the "b" psm device that i am using which is for blocking > mode or bpsm > > At any rate, the mouse now works in X, through the kvm, and through usb > to ps/2 adapter. > > I hope this helps someone else :) > YMMV, > Eric > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, Signa Phi Nothing). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:13:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A351216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:13:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F4743D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2E3Dqb85727; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:13:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric" , Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:13:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:13:52 -0000 Eric, Please submit this via the send-pr mechanism so that it will get fixed in the next version of FreeBSD. thanks, Ted owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > My ugly mouse hack: > I am sure this question has already been answered, although I > couldn't find the answer via google. > > Hardware and Software: > Logitech USB cordless mouse M/N:M-RN67 P/N:851390-0000 w/ ps/2 adapter > Auravision slimseries ps/2 keyboard /w wire > a starband kvm switch, 4 port PS/2 for both keyboard and mouse > w/ extern > power source. > FreeBSD 5.3 stable cpu=2.8 cel > > Using the ps/2 adapter with my mouse, was required to use the kvm. > > dmesg reports this for my mouse by default: > > psm0: flags 0x24 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 > > the mouse will not work. > > appending: hint.psm.0.flags="0x204" > to /boot/device.hints > > I now get this via dmesg: > > psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > > I then edited /etc/rc.conf and disabled my console mouse (moused) > (which I would prefere worked) > > moused_enable="NO" > > I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" > > notice that is the "b" psm device that i am using which is for > blocking mode or bpsm > > At any rate, the mouse now works in X, through the kvm, and > through usb > to ps/2 adapter. > > I hope this helps someone else :) > YMMV, > Eric > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:15:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C27416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC82143D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2E3HCi4075299; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost)j2E3HCaP075296; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) X-Authentication-Warning: april.chuckr.org: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:12 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Chris In-Reply-To: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> Message-ID: <20050313221449.M74062@april.chuckr.org> References: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:15:14 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? > > Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of hte best things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? Heck, he even has a web site for it, www.apsfilter.org. Really, it's THAT good! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, Signa Phi Nothing). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:17:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E9643D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2E3I4b85760; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Edwin D. Vinas" , Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:17:55 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <36f5bbba0503131805376c587@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: sharing a DSL connection using FreeBSD-5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:17:59 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > hello every one! > > i have a freebsd machine which i want to use to share my DSL > connection to a LAN. basically, i have tested my FreeBSD-4.10 to > connect to my DSL provider which gave me a static IP address. Edwin, did you post here a few days ago as Cheezy Vines? If so, several people posted suggestions to you to fix the problem, did you get these? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:44:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADD716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72243D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:44:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0789F60D8; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:44:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34881-05; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:44:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4CD60D4; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:44:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423508A8.30501@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:44:40 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> <20050313221449.M74062@april.chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <20050313221449.M74062@april.chuckr.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:44:46 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > > >>Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? >> >> > > > Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of hte best > things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? > > Heck, he even has a web site for it, www.apsfilter.org. Really, it's THAT > good! > Naaa - not with this one it don't. Nuffin but blank pages on every setup I try. -- Best regards, Chris Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:51:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B9516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B35CE43D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:51:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 03:51:10 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1110772269.678.4.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:51:09 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:51:12 -0000 On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 20:25, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What happens if you mount something in a directorie that contains > other directories ? Can you mount different devices in the same > directorie ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It hides the previous contents of the directory. The original contents reappear when you umount the mounted device. If you mount a second device, it hides the first one until you umount it. PS. You are welcome to ask questions like this, but it is often quicker to try it and see what happens! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 03:52:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2438E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:52:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB143D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:52:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30761; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:52:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:52:52 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: "Edwin D. Vinas" In-Reply-To: <36f5bbba0503131805376c587@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050313215322.Y27801@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <36f5bbba0503131805376c587@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sharing a DSL connection using FreeBSD-5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:52:04 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Edwin D. Vinas wrote: > %ifconfig > rl0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 > ether 00:11:95:26:4e:58 > media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) > status: no carrier > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 210.125.155.126 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 210.125.155.255 [snip] > according to some FreeBSD documentations, i need to configure my > machine as a gateway and use NAT. others also say about using a > firewall. You don't HAVE to do any of these things, although since your subject line says "sharing a DSL connection", NAT is sort of implied. Here is what each thing does; decide for yourself if you need it. - Making this machine a gateway means that your "inside" machines can all connect through it, i.e. you'd set this machine's inside IP (the one you'll configure for rl0) as their default router. In this scenario, the inside machines may or may not have public routable IP addresses. If they do, and you don't run a firewall, they are on their own for security. - NAT allows many "inside" machines to share one "outside" IP address, so you can have Internet connectivity from all your machines even though you only have one public IP address. NAT makes no sense unless your BSD machine is also a gateway. But still, if you don't run a firewall, the inside machines are on their own for security. - A firewall is not required for functionality, but most people (myself included) think it's a good idea. Ipfw, ipf and pf are all packet filters - they allow you to configure what connections will be permitted, based on IP address and port number among other criteria. In any event, you will need configure rl0 for your internal address space. Assuming NAT, i.e. you only have one public IP, you will need to decide what your internal address space will be, and configure your internal machines (and rl0 on the gateway!) accordingly. Per RFC1918, your choices are 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) These are officially reserved address spaces that most upstream routers will never send out to the public Internet. (see http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html) > im concerned on the ease of maintaining the FreeBSD as a DSL > router. It's pretty straightforward. Set it up as you see fit, see if everything you need to do works. If it doesn't, open up the necessary port(s) and try again. If it were me, I'd set it up *for a limited time* with no firewall, just to make sure the gateway works (i.e. I can connect from an inside machine). Once that's established, I'd start dinking with the firewall - start with all ports blocked, then open ports up one by one until everything I need works. > im also concerned on filtered ports or port forwarding which may block > certain ports such as Yahoo messenger and online games. if i use > FreeBSD+NAT+firewall, would Windows clients that runs on specific > ports (i.e. YM and online games) still be able to work? If you block those ports, they won't work. If you need these things to work, and accept any security risks, open those ports on the firewall. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:00:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:00:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E1443D39 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:00:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050314040020011005nt31e>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:00:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c5284a$77c46de0$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Edwin D. Vinas" , References: <36f5bbba0503131805376c587@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:01:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: sharing a DSL connection using FreeBSD-5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:00:28 -0000 For PF , try: http://www.section6.net/help/pf.php For IPF, try : http://www.section6.net/help/nat.php Hope this helps, T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin D. Vinas" To: Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: sharing a DSL connection using FreeBSD-5.3 hello every one! i have a freebsd machine which i want to use to share my DSL connection to a LAN. basically, i have tested my FreeBSD-4.10 to connect to my DSL provider which gave me a static IP address. using a setup with one LAN card and correctly setup IP address & settings, I was able to access the Internet painlessly. now, i bought a new LAN card which I will connect to my LAN switch. the old LAN card will be my interface to the WAN (DSL provider). i haven't done anything to share the Internet coz I want to have an idea from you on what are the next steps in confguring my FreeBSD to share Internet. i will first upgrade my OS to FreeBSD-5.3 which is the latest stable version of FreeBSD. here's my ifconfig which shows that my newly installed card is recognized together with my working LAN card which is currently connected to my DSL internet provider. %ifconfig rl0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:11:95:26:4e:58 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 210.125.155.126 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 210.125.155.255 inet6 fe80::280:adff:fe00:572c%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:80:ad:00:57:2c media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 according to some FreeBSD documentations, i need to configure my machine as a gateway and use NAT. others also say about using a firewall. im concerned on the ease of maintaining the FreeBSD as a DSL router. im also concerned on filtered ports or port forwarding which may block certain ports such as Yahoo messenger and online games. if i use FreeBSD+NAT+firewall, would Windows clients that runs on specific ports (i.e. YM and online games) still be able to work? before, i used WinRoute and WinGate but there are instances when I can't get to work certain applications due to the limitations of the gateway. does anyone here can show me the steps I need to follow to be able to setup a FreeBSD-based DSL internet sharing server which is easy to maintain, fast and secured? thank you very much! -edwin P.S. I love FreeBSD! -- -- Edwin D. Viñas http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:04:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4264C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:04:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC55943D5D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DAgoJ-000MAu-1a; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:04:07 -0500 Received: from 24.98.86.57 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:04:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4557.24.98.86.57.1110773047.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:04:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:04:08 -0000 Sergei, As one of the other responses points out, it's possible that it would be too late by the time a monitoring system was able to send an email to you. One way to partly mitigate that risk is by having your logs forwarded to another system, and having the analysis run from that machine. You still run the risk of the attacker stopping the logs from being forwarded, but you will likely get *some* notice that something is wrong. There are many tools that will send alerts to you, but very few that will work "out of the box", without some level of tuning. There is a collection of them here: http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-4.phtml and here: http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-19.phtml > I am running my FreeBSD machine on DMZ. I use ipfw and I expose http > and smtp ports. I also expose sshd port, but only to a trusted > network (work). I'd like to know what is the best way to monitor my > machine security. > > FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending > messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only > if there is something abnormal. > If you have portaudit installed, the daily security emails will include a section on vulnerable ports (software, not network) installed. This is really helpful, as it's hard to keep up with the latest vulnerabilities in all the software that a given system has to run. I think there tends to be a lag between the announcement of the vulnerability and portaudit knowing about it, though. Staying subscribed to the security lists for those applications you run is still a good idea. Jerry http://www.syslog.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:11:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C4116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:11:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD3B43D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:11:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1671686rnf for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:11:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TGkBfH/FWavVYDVbZ/ps0yue64qwu7VciRr8NNoTM9DRZwfMiQ3Owu9wDlpVNS94gBg7GbAPVd5QXXptTeGvfKQUUb3y/0l+Q5B5ne5/D1PaSqqIwoe2BReqVJVEcpSjiJci4ak7QbBIEcHuCRdpD9mHGaaCGxNiCHYEkc7ZlJ8= Received: by 10.38.78.51 with SMTP id a51mr3013451rnb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:11:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:11:23 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:11:57 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > One other thing just to let you know, I've been testing portmanager > against this new gnome update, when its done there is a bunch of > gstreamer-plugins-* left un-upgraded. I'm about 3% through the upgrade for that now. I had it going this afternoon when I was mucking around at a friend's workplace. I'm sure I've seen it mention that some gstreamer-plugins needed upgrading but I've not paid that much attention :-) > I just tried > pkg_delete -f gstreamer-plugins-* on them and let portmanager -u bring > them back in, it seems to be working but I also cvsup'ed and there is > so many new changes it will be awhile before I know for sure. I'll let you know if my system gets upgraded without any issues or if the gstreamer stuff still needs manual attention. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:13:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F9616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:13:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE3C43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:13:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1741269rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:13:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hO/yCHL0JWXp53NSZy1e+ZNxW9uPCfSmh39V9GBf1qJi+daP+Ro8dAcaT5xIlmNwsXUNChbcxFyeySjE+kHEqgcYDOiNJ9GNNutzXP7xw/cA6Zncwz+HSynTDsIz3bNHug5AZlA2juqgJhrWAaI25uAKPfxW/vieJeE4ii5WObU= Received: by 10.38.74.71 with SMTP id w71mr260823rna; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:12:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:12:35 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:13:06 -0000 I# make index Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.."/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2818: warnin g: duplicate script for target "checksum" ignored cfvers-0.4.6: "/usr/ports/databases/py-PySQLite" non-existent -- dependency list incomplete ===> sysutils/cfvers failed *** Error code 1 1 error From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:14:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FA516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:14:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFF643D48 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:14:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so1646653rne for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:13:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IILc3t1VMyVVkGbpgNdYtCR3OOmsYis5++FDbdpG8Fqr8qmcjQHAvJfcYVgdqDvqY8qJ3nI+cxtLyXS8l1yw0fjCGu9oDzKt1a2vb1sYQOHjTarMTEj/4a0Aj7L3TTDJM94kMe/PkAtrZN/QeApE9BkE3U/ceG9QWZ87kmONilU= Received: by 10.38.75.66 with SMTP id x66mr4792553rna; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:13:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:13:52 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: Robert Marella In-Reply-To: <4234CC8E.7060508@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> <4234CC8E.7060508@gmail.com> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:14:26 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:28:14 -1000, Robert Marella wrote: > Like Chris I have packages scattered in my ports directories. I have > just started using Portmanager. I have now created /usr/ports/packages > directory. Do I need to move the packages one at a time from the > individual ports directories? Will running portmanager again find them > and move them? I don't think portmanager will find and move them but if the port gets upgraded again then it'll recreate the packages in /usr/ports/packages. The best thing would possibly be to just search for all *.tbz files under /usr/ports and move them into /usr/ports/packages/All if you want them all in the same place. I don't think it will affect any distfiles but I'm not sure if there are any that have a .tbz suffix. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:36:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF9E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:36:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715DD43D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050314043651014001lqooe>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:36:52 +0000 Message-ID: <423516E5.5030602@munat.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:45:25 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD User Questions List References: <4234D485.309@munat.com> <4234D6D7.9060804@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4234D6D7.9060804@cis.strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [asking again] did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:36:54 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > Ben Munat wrote: >> This morning, after running cvsup and portsdb, portversion told me I >> had a stale >> dependency in linux-sun-jdk. This didn't surprise me, as I had >> installed the jdk yesterday >> (and what a pain that was). >> >> So, I did as it suggested and ran pkgdb -F.... it asked me some >> questions... well, I'll >> just paste the output below. The question/problem is that now >> portversion says that I need >> to upgrade 85 ports! When I checked a few days ago, I had nothing to >> upgrade, so I have a >> feeling I messed something up. Any help would be appreciated. >> > > You could always play it safe, backup all the good stuff on your system > and just cvsup again. Then install portmanager and start it running and > go to bed. If it updates everything so be it. At least you will feel a > little more confident about your system after that. > > Chris Ok, well I ran portmanager -s and it comes up with 85 packages to upgrade too. I guess it was just coincidence that I went from 0 to 85 in a couple days. I've started portmanager -u... we'll see how long it takes! thnx, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA0E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292C043D5C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:37:26 -0600 Message-ID: <423515D9.1010002@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:40:57 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com References: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> <20050313221449.M74062@april.chuckr.org> <423508A8.30501@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <423508A8.30501@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2005 04:37:27.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[86495F10:01C5284F] cc: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: Re: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:41:01 -0000 Chris wrote: >Chuck Robey wrote: > > >>On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: >> >> >> >>>Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? >>> >>> >>Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of hte best >>things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? >> >>Heck, he even has a web site for it, www.apsfilter.org. Really, it's THAT >>good! >> >> >> > >Naaa - not with this one it don't. Nuffin but blank pages on every setup >I try. > > Well, there's a reason. You do have to read some docs*. What's the log say? I tend to agree that apsfilter is PDG, for most values of P, D, and G="Good".... Kevin Kinsey *I'm not necessarily implying that you didn't, but maybe you didn't read it all, or the right one, or misread something ... IIRC I skipped over something pretty important first try, also.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 04:46:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCA816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:46:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C999243D53 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:46:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1846171rna for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Lqi1HSwEsUxrzs0rPEP17oXQmIYGQdwWejZsoakoIK6BBY74UGOkhZ9e5GjlvSawVGpnKayKvT06nltkQH0WcAqgRMaOgpv0ZDSUjQDrBT/uTxAQD7ah4yv/maKuLiRgGT5G3LxFHaPu4M2a3Kq8afDz5kInOjPFx6AKWtIA4dw= Received: by 10.38.86.28 with SMTP id j28mr4586601rnb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:19:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:19:04 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <003e01c5284a$de7a11c0$4300a8c0@home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <003e01c5284a$de7a11c0$4300a8c0@home.lan> Subject: Re: mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:46:31 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:04:06 -0800, Thomas Foster wrote: > > What happens if you mount something in a directorie that contains > > other directories ? Can you mount different devices in the same > > directorie ? > I dont mean to be out of line here at all, > > I have watched you post many questions to the list over the course of the > past couple of months and I am curious if you have read the FreeBSD Handbook > and/or tried any of the questions you pose for yourself. > > It seems to me you might save yourself a bit of time by researching a bit. > > Again, I dont mean to offend, just offering helpful advice > Let me tell you a story about how my mind works :) mount question solution: A) find a cdrom to mount, lying somewhere in the house B) ask mailing list, start mplayer and watch a movie C) read the manual (note the me falling a sleep sign while reading the following :) I# man mount Formatting page, please wait...Done. MOUNT(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual MOUNT(8) ( ....falling a sleep write here * <- ) NAME mount -- mount file systems SYNOPSIS mount [-adfpruvw] [-F fstab] [-o options] [-t ufs | external_type] mount [-dfpruvw] special | node mount [-dfpruvw] [-o options] [-t ufs | external_type] special node DESCRIPTION The mount utility calls the mount(2) system call to prepare and graft a special device or the remote node (rhost:path) on to the file system tree at the point node. If either special or node are not provided, the appropriate information is taken from the fstab(5) file. The system maintains a list of currently mounted file systems. If no arguments are given to mount, this list is printed. The options are as follows: -a All the file systems described in fstab(5) are mounted. Excep- tions are those marked as ``noauto'', excluded by the -t flag (see below), or if they are already mounted (except the root file system which is always remounted to preserve traditional single user mode behavior). -d Causes everything to be done except for the actual system call. This option is useful in conjunction with the -v flag to deter- mine what the mount command is trying to do. -F fstab Specify the fstab file to use. -f Forces the revocation of write access when trying to downgrade a file system mount status from read-write to read-only. Also forces the R/W mount of an unclean file system (dangerous; use with caution). -o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a comma sepa- rated string of options. In case of conflicting options being specified, the rightmost option takes effect. The following options are available: acls Enable Access Control Lists, or ACLS, which can be cus- tomized via the setfacl(1) and getfacl(1) commands. async All I/O to the file system should be done asynchronously. This is a dangerous flag to set, and should not be used unless you are prepared to recreate the file system should your system crash. current When used with the -u flag, this is the same as specify- ing the options currently in effect for the mounted file system. force The same as -f; forces the revocation of write access when trying to downgrade a file system mount status from read-write to read-only. Also forces the R/W mount of an unclean file system (dangerous; use with caution). fstab When used with the -u flag, this is the same as specify- ing all the options listed in the fstab(5) file for the file system. multilabel Enable multi-label Mandatory Access Control, or MAC, on the specified file system. If the file system supports multilabel operation, individual labels will be main- tained for each object in the file system, rather than using a single label for all obejcts. An alternative to the -l flag in tunefs(8). See mac(4) for more informa- tion, which cause the multilabel mount flag to be set automatically at mount-time. noasync Metadata I/O should be done synchronously, while data I/O should be done asynchronously. This is the default. noatime Do not update the file access time when reading from a file. This option is useful on file systems where there are large numbers of files and performance is more criti- cal than updating the file access time (which is rarely ever important). This option is currently only supported on local file systems. noauto This file system should be skipped when mount is run with the -a flag. noclusterr Disable read clustering. noclusterw Disable write clustering. nodev Do not interpret character or block special devices on the file system. This option is useful for a server that has file systems containing special devices for architec- tures other than its own. This option is set automati- cally when the user does not have super-user privileges. noexec Do not allow execution of any binaries on the mounted file system. This option is useful for a server that has file systems containing binaries for architectures other than its own. nosuid Do not allow set-user-identifier or set-group-identifier bits to take effect. Note: this option is worthless if a public available suid or sgid wrapper like suidperl(1) is installed on your system. It is set automatically when the user does not have super-user privileges. nosymfollow Do not follow symlinks on the mounted file system. ro The same as -r; mount the file system read-only (even the super-user may not write it). sync All I/O to the file system should be done synchronously. snapshot This option allows a snapshot of the specified file sys- tem to be taken. The -u flag is required with this option. Note that snapshot files must be created in the file system that is being snapshotted. You may create up to 20 snapshots per file system. Active snapshots are recorded in the superblock, so they persist across unmount and remount operations and across system reboots. When you are done with a snapshot, it can be removed with the rm(1) command. Snapshots may be removed in any order, however you may not get back all the space con- tained in the snapshot as another snapshot may claim some of the blocks that it is releasing. Note that the schg flag is set on snapshots to ensure that not even the root user can write to them. The unlink command makes an exception for snapshot files in that it allows them to be removed even though they have the schg flag set, so it is not necessary to clear the schg flag before removing a snapshot file. Once you have taken a snapshot, there are three interest- ing things that you can do with it: 1. Run fsck(8) on the snapshot file. Assuming that the file system was clean when it was mounted, you should always get a clean (and unchanging) result from running fsck on the snapshot. This is essen- tially what the background fsck process does. 2. Run dump(8) on the snapshot. You will get a dump that is consistent with the file system as of the timestamp of the snapshot. 3. Mount the snapshot as a frozen image of the file system. To mount the snapshot /var/snapshot/snap1: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /var/snapshot/snap1 -u 4 mount -r /dev/md4 /mnt You can now cruise around your frozen /var file sys- tem at /mnt. Everything will be in the same state that it was at the time the snapshot was taken. The one exception is that any earlier snapshots will appear as zero length files. When you are done with the mounted snapshot: umount /mnt mdconfig -d -u 4 Further details can be found in the file at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.snapshot. suiddir A directory on the mounted file system will respond to the SUID bit being set, by setting the owner of any new files to be the same as the owner of the directory. New directories will inherit the bit from their parents. Execute bits are removed from the file, and it will not be given to root. This feature is designed for use on fileservers serving PC users via ftp, SAMBA, or netatalk. It provides secu- rity holes for shell users and as such should not be used on shell machines, especially on home directories. This option requires the SUIDDIR option in the kernel to work. Only UFS file systems support this option. See chmod(2) for more information. update The same as -u; indicate that the status of an already mounted file system should be changed. union Causes the namespace at the mount point to appear as the union of the mounted file system root and the existing directory. Lookups will be done in the mounted file sys- tem first. If those operations fail due to a non-exis- tent file the underlying directory is then accessed. All creates are done in the mounted file system. Any additional options specific to a file system type that is not one of the internally known types (see the -t option) may be passed as a comma separated list; these options are distinguished by a leading ``-'' (dash). Options that take a value are speci- fied using the syntax -option=value. For example, the mount com- mand: mount -t unionfs -o -b /sys $HOME/sys causes mount to execute the equivalent of: /sbin/mount_unionfs -b /sys $HOME/sys Additional options specific to file system types which are not internally known (see the description of the -t option below) may be described in the manual pages for the associated /sbin/mount_XXX utilities. -p Print mount information in fstab(5) format. Implies also the -v option. -r The file system is to be mounted read-only. Mount the file sys- tem read-only (even the super-user may not write it). The same as the ro argument to the -o option. -t ufs | external_type The argument following the -t is used to indicate the file system type. The type ufs is the default. The -t option can be used to indicate that the actions should only be taken on file systems of the specified type. More than one type may be specified in a comma separated list. The list of file system types can be pre- fixed with ``no'' to specify the file system types for which action should not be taken. For example, the mount command: mount -a -t nonfs,nullfs mounts all file systems except those of type NFS and NULLFS. If the type is not one of the internally known types, mount will attempt to execute a program in /sbin/mount_XXX where XXX is replaced by the type name. For example, nfs file systems are mounted by the program /sbin/mount_nfs. Most file systems will be dynamically loaded by the kernel if not already present, and if the kernel module is available. -u The -u flag indicates that the status of an already mounted file system should be changed. Any of the options discussed above (the -o option) may be changed; also a file system can be changed from read-only to read-write or vice versa. An attempt to change from read-write to read-only will fail if any files on the file system are currently open for writing unless the -f flag is also specified. The set of options is determined by applying the options specified in the argument to -o and finally applying the -r or -w option. -v Verbose mode. -w The file system object is to be read and write. DIAGNOSTICS Various, most of them are self-explanatory. XXXXX file system is not available The kernel does not support the respective file system type. Note that support for a particular file system might be provided either on a static (kernel compile-time), or dynamic basis (loaded as a kernel module by kldload(8)). ENVIRONMENT PATH_FSTAB If the environment variable PATH_FSTAB is set, all operations are performed against the specified file. PATH_FSTAB will not be honored if the process environment or memory address space is considered ``tainted''. (See issetugid(2) for more information.) FILES /etc/fstab file system table SEE ALSO getfacl(1), setfacl(1), mount(2), acl(3), mac(4), fstab(5), kldload(8), mount_cd9660(8), mount_devfs(8), mount_ext2fs(8), mount_fdescfs(8), mount_hpfs(8), mount_linprocfs(8), mount_msdosfs(8), mount_nfs(8), mount_ntfs(8), mount_nullfs(8), mount_nwfs(8), mount_portalfs(8), mount_procfs(8), mount_smbfs(8), mount_std(8), mount_udf(8), mount_umapfs(8), mount_unionfs(8), umount(8) BUGS It is possible for a corrupted file system to cause a crash. CAVEATS After a successful mount, the permissions on the original mount point determine if .. is accessible from the mounted file system. The minimum permissions for the mount point for traversal across the mount point in both directions to be possible for all users is 0111 (execute for all). HISTORY A mount utility appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX. FreeBSD 5.3 April 7, 2003 FreeBSD 5.3 I# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 05:04:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4260316A4CF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:04:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0714143D5E for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00LTCSRH2MN0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:04:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1E382CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:04:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:04:26 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <423516E5.5030602@munat.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503132104.26749.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4234D485.309@munat.com> <4234D6D7.9060804@cis.strath.ac.uk> <423516E5.5030602@munat.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: [asking again] did a bad thing to my ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:04:30 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 08:45 pm, Ben Munat wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > > Ben Munat wrote: > >> This morning, after running cvsup and portsdb, portversion told me > >> I had a stale > >> dependency in linux-sun-jdk. This didn't surprise me, as I had > >> installed the jdk yesterday > >> (and what a pain that was). > >> > >> So, I did as it suggested and ran pkgdb -F.... it asked me some > >> questions... well, I'll > >> just paste the output below. The question/problem is that now > >> portversion says that I need > >> to upgrade 85 ports! When I checked a few days ago, I had nothing > >> to upgrade, so I have a > >> feeling I messed something up. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > You could always play it safe, backup all the good stuff on your > > system and just cvsup again. Then install portmanager and start it > > running and go to bed. If it updates everything so be it. At > > least you will feel a little more confident about your system after > > that. > > > > Chris > > Ok, well I ran portmanager -s and it comes up with 85 packages to > upgrade too. I guess it was just coincidence that I went from 0 to 85 > in a couple days. I've started portmanager -u... we'll see how long > it takes! > > thnx, > > Ben Ben, they upgraded gnome and bumped many portrevisions to keep portupgrade happy I guess. Its too bad because likely many of these ports don't require upgrading. All we can do is grin and bear it, hopefully it will be a long while before gnome is again upgraded. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 05:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F32C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D82943D39 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from masterkev28@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1776319rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:29:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qMywKbtCjewJ7XXy0Uev0DX+b6TTd7O4tz+IHse84tFPlkz6FT/IAu4Tgc5IebUaYdT38JcDONF16eSqYX5msPfKoRWvXljJth9lBU16IrI937u/BslIdZV4xvNeLs/oyaelZ/lyr7Id1BLALLI4GrHM+4yjmqGyVgxNaCBge7w= Received: by 10.38.74.71 with SMTP id w71mr312803rna; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.98.27 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:02:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <449b8e7105031321021fdacc4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:02:43 -0600 From: masterkev28 masterkev28 To: Jason Henson In-Reply-To: <1110767350l.17082l.4l@BARTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <449b8e71050313140869219505@mail.gmail.com> <1110767350l.17082l.4l@BARTON> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: masterkev28 masterkev28 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:29:35 -0000 Hi, I didn't rebuild world, or kernel, however just some regular routine portupgrade -a. The problem is that no matter what I do with mergemaster, I get this error( also the same error occurs on another box of mine), and it started happening about a week ago after I did cvsup. It keeps complaining the line 76~80 in /usr/src/etc/Makefile, where I have no idea what's wrong with this file. Thanks, Kev On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:29:10 +0000, Jason Henson wrote: > On 03/13/05 17:08:56, masterkev28 masterkev28 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > When I do mergemaster -ia, I get the following errors: > > > > *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, > > /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if > > untrusted > > users have access to the system. > > > > Why are you using -ia, they are th opposit in the man page. You > should: > > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel > # make installkernel > # reboot > After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in single > user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). Then run: > # mergemaster -p > # make installworld > # mergemaster > # reboot > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 05:36:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EC916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:36:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (153.146.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch [62.203.146.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6107143D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:36:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2E5c2pF050396; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:38:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2E5c1CE050395; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:38:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:38:01 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Silverstrim , Martin Schweizer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Martin Schweizer Subject: Re: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:36:47 -0000 --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Bart Am Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:14PM -0500 Bart Silverstrim schrieb: >=20 > On Mar 13, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Martin Schweizer wrote: >=20 > >Hello > > > >I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the=20 > >client > >the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can > >successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the=20 > >xdm. What > >do I wrong? >=20 > What do you mean? If you're starting the X app on the remote system=20 > using X-forwarding with ssh, you're running a remote application using=20 > the remote system's CPU and memory. If you're trying to do something=20 > like open a whole X session on the remote system like a remote=20 > terminal, something like a "remote desktop", you'd probably need to=20 > look into using something like VNC over SSH or something using XNest=20 > may work. Now I can start remote applications (like OpenOffice) remote without proble= ms.=20 My goals are to use a "remote desktop" (like you describe). Is there a VNC= =20 server for X? --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNSM5wa4WkdMP0jkRAng+AKCW8ZBfnVTH3ALpYJzibD/ucCHVugCgy9p8 8cJ//w7sXbcc0AGFMLFfFIw= =nxTl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 05:59:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92E916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:59:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAB243D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1789363rng for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:59:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=peyPIXcBoXckveM4mV1SLXsa/N6nat0QScUzuS1KR8/xUVyjQj6BZ1g+AaYwZnvNbrZ0nKJFzYKduPptcxJ/jXdcF7meAYC0Ud3sCp2uZr6LuDptNEjLL9iPKHPfASjV8HxqW2+n8dq+kykBAXYbResWzazX9cVfselv+2bJhOs= Received: by 10.38.90.36 with SMTP id n36mr1437485rnb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:52:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:52:39 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Martin Schweizer , Bart Silverstrim , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Subject: Re: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:59:53 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:38:01 +0100, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Bart > > Am Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:14PM -0500 Bart Silverstrim schrieb: > > > > On Mar 13, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Martin Schweizer wrote: > > > > >Hello > > > > > >I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the > > >client > > >the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can > > >successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the > > >xdm. What > > >do I wrong? > > > > What do you mean? If you're starting the X app on the remote system > > using X-forwarding with ssh, you're running a remote application using > > the remote system's CPU and memory. If you're trying to do something > > like open a whole X session on the remote system like a remote > > terminal, something like a "remote desktop", you'd probably need to > > look into using something like VNC over SSH or something using XNest > > may work. > > Now I can start remote applications (like OpenOffice) remote without problems. > My goals are to use a "remote desktop" (like you describe). Is there a VNC > server for X? > > -- > > Regards > > Martin Schweizer > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > oh oh i think i know this one :) First you do xhost +(ip adress) on the server then xdm (ip adress) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 06:02:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:02:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC5E43D5C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:02:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emccoy@haystacks.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-98-109-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[24.98.109.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005031406021801300og1dte>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:02:22 +0000 Message-ID: <423528D1.8060308@haystacks.org> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:01:53 -0500 From: Eric McCoy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick@nagual.st References: <20050313180308.4b5c6748.dick@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050313180308.4b5c6748.dick@nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: var/tmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:02:23 -0000 dick hoogendijk wrote: > I'd like some info on: > > man 7 hier: > "/var/tmp tempory files that are kept between system reboots" > > Can I safely delete this directory. Probabl not 'cause it's kept in > between, but how can I weed some files then in a safe manner? What can > and what cannot be deleted and why? some info poiters would be welcome > ;-) The hierarchy rules apply to the system, not to you. You can ignore or honor them at your discretion. The promise that nothing in /var/tmp will be deleted between reboots only means that the system itself won't do it. It's a temporary directory; if there's a file in there that hasn't been touched in four weeks, by all means delete it. What I typically do with temp files of uncertain origin is move them into a subdirectory (and then reboot to make sure no processes are holding them open). If nothing bitches that Some Important File is missing, trash them. But if some program refuses to start or gives errors, then you have the originals to move back into place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 06:11:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12A416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5086043D53 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1592689wra for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LCl6I8KoFkWn+io4fvMVVe2h4tokLqm48fPq1t+O2q1xOXdwvzer0yMgRKt8RQ+LPyM2TaydP03kOs1QkTIo1TA/S8ztB2ITWHwge396IbUaCb0rDoRh79hlfOPN4mvGzbH/KLRJB4p3r84GgLAc67fbLFW+NO8dXzvlRnqHdo8= Received: by 10.54.76.9 with SMTP id y9mr2784558wra; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf72245050313221115f797f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:40 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 4.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:41 -0000 Is there any source do download the FreeBSD 4.4. I really needed the 4.4 version. regards bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 06:11:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDC816A4E4 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B2443D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1592690wra for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LCl6I8KoFkWn+io4fvMVVe2h4tokLqm48fPq1t+O2q1xOXdwvzer0yMgRKt8RQ+LPyM2TaydP03kOs1QkTIo1TA/S8ztB2ITWHwge396IbUaCb0rDoRh79hlfOPN4mvGzbH/KLRJB4p3r84GgLAc67fbLFW+NO8dXzvlRnqHdo8= Received: by 10.54.76.9 with SMTP id y9mr2784558wra; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:11:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf72245050313221115f797f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:11:40 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 4.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:11:45 -0000 Is there any source do download the FreeBSD 4.4. I really needed the 4.4 version. regards bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 06:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFED416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:23:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748B643D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@kelleycows.com) Received: from [10.3.29.200] (c-24-30-114-40.we.client2.attbi.com[24.30.114.40]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050314062327012001m0fte>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:23:27 +0000 Message-ID: <42352DD9.9060600@kelleycows.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:23:21 -0800 From: Christopher Kelley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313171401.893BD16A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050313171401.893BD16A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsdbeni@spymac.com Subject: Re: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:23:29 -0000 You Wrote: >Hi, > >System: 5.3-REL-p5 > >I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my >Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. > >I found >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html >which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message as >described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to create >.lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for the user and one >for Root, but get the same message back. > >So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? > >Beni. > Hi, The popup message on Thunderbird tells you (somewhat cryptically) what you need to do. I believe it says something along the lines of: --- Unable to create .lock file. For movemail to work, it is necessary to create lock files in the mail spool directory. On many systems, this is best accomplished by making the spool directory be mode 01777. --- The spool directory is /var/mail, so what I did was (as root), cd to /var, then 'chmod 1777 mail'. Please note that this machine is behind a firewall, and provides no services to the internet, so I'm not very concerned about any security holes doing this may open up. I'm using Tbird 1.0, and I haven't touched my sendmail configuration from the "factory defaults". I redirected (via /etc/mail/aliases) the "root" mail to the normal user that runs X. Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 06:47:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C4016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92E0643D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:47:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 32423 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 06:47:18 -0000 Received: from batv-01-043.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.44) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 06:47:18 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050314004548.38ee5c10@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:46:10 -0600 To: Bhaban Singh From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <5bf72245050313221115f797f2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:47:21 -0000 At 00:11 3/14/2005, Bhaban Singh wrote: >Is there any source do download the FreeBSD 4.4. I really needed the >4.4 version. Yep: http://MirrorList.FreeBSD.org/FBSDsites.php Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 07:04:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAFA16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:04:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D7443D48 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bnonn@orcon.net.nz) Received-SPF: none (dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz: domain of bnonn@orcon.net.nz does not designate permitted sender hosts) receiver=dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz; client-ip=60.234.131.84; envelope-from=; helo=saffron; Received: from saffron (60-234-131-84.bitstream.orcon.net.nz [60.234.131.84]) j2E74SWE029983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:04:32 +1300 From: Bnonn To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:04:19 +1300 Message-Id: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/761/Fri Mar 11 10:01:48 2005 on dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Page-up in tcsh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:04:28 -0000 This is probably a really stupid question, but I can't find anything in the manpages. Surely there's a way to page-up in tcsh? The Page Up and Page Down keys do noooothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 07:21:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4541616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:21:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2491C43D41 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:21:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB002IHZ3ODH50@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:21:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 946602CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:21:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:21:22 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503132321.23015.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Page-up in tcsh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:21:29 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:04 pm, Bnonn wrote: > This is probably a really stupid question, but I can't find anything > in the manpages. Surely there's a way to page-up in tcsh? The Page Up > and Page Down keys do noooothing. tcsh is a command line interpreter, ie it only does one line at a time. Just what are you trying to page up into? Maybe all you need to do is press the scroll lock key? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 07:24:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DB316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:24:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C67743D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:24:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2E7Oiwn099635; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j2E7Oimu099632; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:44 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:44 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Bnonn In-Reply-To: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050314082024.Y99436@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Page-up in tcsh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:24:47 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Bnonn wrote: > This is probably a really stupid question, but I can't find anything in > the manpages. Surely there's a way to page-up in tcsh? The Page Up and > Page Down keys do noooothing. None of the traditional shells (like tcsh and bash) provide such a feature. They give you a command line editor but no further screen control. It's more the task of the terminal emulator to do so; in xterm, for example, you can use Shift+PageUp or Shift+PageDown to scroll. Regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 07:25:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6499716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:25:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DFB43D48 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (63-225-97-116.dnvr.qwest.net[63.225.97.116]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031407250301600gluqde>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:25:03 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:46:42 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503131146.42588.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Subject: configuring php4 and apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aj@siegel-tech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:25:04 -0000 Hello I am have problems getting php4 to work with apache2. I have these working on another FreeBSD 4.10 server but I can not get it working on my 5.3 server. When I try to load a php page with my web browser it just ask me if I want to download the php file. Here is what I have done to configure and install: installed apache-2.0.53 php4-4.3.10_2 php4-extensions-1.0 edited /etc/rc.conf apache2_enable="YES" /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache2/libphp4.so AddType application/x-http-php .php AddType application/x-http-php-source .phps copied php.ini-recommended to php.ini edited php.ini include_path = ".:/php/includes" include_path ="/usr/local/share/pear" I have reloaded all the application and rebooted the computer. I have read the php manual, I believe I have followed all the steps in the pkg-message files and tried google but I can not find the answer. I am sorry for asking such a basic question which is probably documented somewhere. Thank you Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 07:53:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D9816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:53:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EA843D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:53:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdmail@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1351736wri for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:53:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=F2HxeASnnOpirgqOBQ4+WCrOzs+lzh+OF/sT5hApdKSEt3n8kGhgb/bDp3uXzlFfluVg/sLSOHnWR70unSLAWYkxXYGkCtVtJNFlxJp6svx6z2vZQeqdw2aLkWdu0XlyjPTk2gQwdXlFPtYz5iSnu++jRGjAtWEgWgTkdG/DV5o= Received: by 10.54.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr677769wrb; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.56.37 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:53:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8be663db05031323535ff0f3b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:53:59 -0800 From: BSD Mail To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8be663db05031323524c5d7751@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8be663db05031323524c5d7751@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Postfix Chroot. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: BSD Mail List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:53:59 -0000 Greetings, I recently installed Postfix under FreeBSD 5_3 It's running fine without any problem. I followed the steps in the documentation on how to chroot postfix under FreeBSD. My sockstat(1) shows this though: root master 666 11 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* root master 666 12 tcp4 10.0.1.4:25 *:* Everything running under a different group except "master" it is still running as root. How can I fix that ? Also I need a way to verify that Postfix is actually running chrooted. I know I edited the master file and chroot "y" everything except: proxymap, local and virtual according to the docs they can't be chrooted. Any tips will be helpful. Otherwise I will be forced to configure a jail and run Postfix under it. -- Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429D816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:11:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941D443D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:11:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2E9BAb87027; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:11:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Chuck Robey" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:11:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <423508A8.30501@makeworld.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 cc: FreeBSD - Questions Subject: RE: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:11:12 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: >> >> >>> Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? >>> >>> >> >> >> Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of >> hte best things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? >> >> Heck, he even has a web site for it, www.apsfilter.org. Really, it's >> THAT good! >> > > Naaa - not with this one it don't. Nuffin but blank pages on every > setup I try. OK, according to the following: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/printer.htm Ghostscript supports the HP1100 directly. So there's no need to deal with the other printer drivers, which should make it easy for you. Since you already installed apsfilter (which is unnecessary BTW) just run the following: gs -? This will spew out a list of devices that your version of Ghostscript has installed. For example: $ gs -? GNU Ghostscript 7.07 (2003-05-17) Copyright (C) 2003 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. Usage: gs [switches] [file1.ps file2.ps ...] Most frequently used switches: (you can use # in place of =) -dNOPAUSE no pause after page | -q `quiet', fewer messages -gx page size in pixels | -r pixels/inch resolution -sDEVICE= select device | -dBATCH exit after last file -sOutputFile= select output file: - for stdout, |command for pipe, embed %d or %ld for page # Input formats: PostScript PostScriptLevel1 PostScriptLevel2 PDF Default output device: x11 Available devices: bbox bit bitcmyk bitrgb bmp16 bmp16m bmp256 bmp32b bmpgray bmpmono bmpsep1 bmpsep8 ccr cgm24 cgm8 cgmmono cif dfaxhigh dfaxlow epswrite faxg3 faxg32d faxg4 ijs inferno jpeg jpeggray lj4dith ljet4 ljet4d mgr4 mgr8 mgrgray2 mgrgray4 mgrgray8 mgrmono miff24 nullpage pam pbm pbmraw pcx16 pcx24b pcx256 pcxcmyk pcxgray pcxmono pdfwrite pgm pgmraw pgnm pgnmraw pkm pkmraw pksm pksmraw plan9bm png16 png16m png256 pngalpha pnggray pngmono pnm pnmraw ppm ppmraw psgray psmono psrgb pswrite sgirgb stp sunhmono tiff12nc tiff24nc tiffcrle tiffg3 tiffg32d tiffg4 tifflzw tiffpack x11 x11alpha x11cmyk x11cmyk2 x11cmyk4 x11cmyk8 x11gray2 x11gray4 x11mono x11rg16x x11rg32x Search path: . : /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/lib : /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts For more information, see /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/doc/Use.htm. Report bugs to bug-gs@ghostscript.com, using the form in Bug-form.htm. $ Search the available devices for "ljet4" If that driver is present your good to go. If not, then go to the ports into the ghostscript directory and do a make deinstall, make clean, make install and then make sure to select ljet4 from the list of devices. Once you have that device there, assuming your Laserjet is plugged into the parallel port, a commmand like: gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=/dev/lpt0 /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/exampl es/colorcir.ps should print the postscript example file of a color circle. Assuming that works then it is pretty simple to setup a /etc/printcap entry for that. Here's an example: lp-hpps:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-hpps:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:mx=0:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/hppsfilter:rw: cat /usr/local/bin/hppsfilter #!/bin/sh # # Script that runs ghostscript for the HP # /usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - You can also write this as an input file for lpd, that might work better for you, read the manual. Note also that if your just going to be printing text only, then you just need a CR/LF filter, see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.htm l specifically the section on setting up filters. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:18:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26B016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:18:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from istanbul.enderunix.org (freefall.marmara.edu.tr [193.140.143.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6BD843D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ofsen@enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 28054 invoked by uid 89); 14 Mar 2005 09:19:13 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff 0.8-p3 against viruses and spams (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Message-ID: <20050314091912.28051.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:19:12 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: after init messeages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:18:36 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to disable messages that was given by rc_ng to the console? Maybe by disabling console entry in ttys file ? Best Regars.. ----------------------- Omer Faruk Sen http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG Software Development Team @ Turkey http://www.Faruk.NET For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc ******************************************************** First Turkish FreeBSD book is out! Go check it. Duydunuz mu! Turkiye'nin ilk FreeBSD kitabi cikti. http://www.acikkod.com/freebsd.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:23:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353CE16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:23:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lashiir.sapros.com (lashiir.sapros.com [209.67.219.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70B943D62 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterh@lashiir.sapros.com) Received: from lashiir.sapros.com (peterh@localhost.sapros.com [127.0.0.1]) by lashiir.sapros.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2E9NWqB067529 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:23:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from peterh@lashiir.sapros.com) Message-Id: <200503140923.j2E9NWqB067529@lashiir.sapros.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:23:32 -0600 From: Peter Haight X-Spam-Score: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Subject: Why doesn't "cp /dev/audio foo.raw; cp foo.raw /dev/audio" work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:23:34 -0000 I've had no problems with my soundcard working with any apps, but a friend of mine who is used to Linux was setting up a FreeBSD box, and he asked my why the following doesn't work on FreeBSD. Apparently it works ok on Linux. cp /dev/audio0.0 foo.raw cp foo.raw /dev/audio0.0 When he did it, he said he could make out part of the recording, but it was very noisy. When I tried it on my machine, I couldn't make out any of the recording it just sounded like static. Should it work? Why doesn't it? I don't have any problems with any software that uses the sound card. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:30:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F31216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D241943D5F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from regnans@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1366683wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HS/RcBS3fNXd0AudwsVCpn9CkqA+QG3cPVOXFSKy96/fX6a6ibylsa/oE25k/HZsFqop4CaAktWiG6LitLceJL5XR0krb4ZzbV6Vos7RDmsj/ZzkOJAGsEPy2Wp6DqX5Zbz/CVJTagDK25v7F6sTXRoYr220RAyVnfc8xnlyEJ4= Received: by 10.54.82.19 with SMTP id f19mr727427wrb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.70 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <68b3483d050314013051ad3226@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:30:02 +0100 From: h p In-Reply-To: <20050313233248.GR18080@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313233248.GR18080@alzatex.com> cc: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: h p List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:03 -0000 [...] > > FreeBSD security email is rather anoying, because it keeps sending > > messages even if nothing has changed. I need an email sent to me only > > if there is something abnormal. > > What happens when someone breaks in and disables it from sending email? > > Think of it as a kind of heartbeat. Well, different minds work differently, but for me it adds vastly to the noise level. If everything is normal, I get a mail. If there is something wrong, I get a mail. A different one, for sure, but I have to actually read it to know. If I only get a mail in a special case, I am much more inclined to read it than if I get a mail every day for 300 days and on the 301st there is a mail with a warning. I've stopped paying attention long before that. Just my thoughts.... Helge From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:30:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4A916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB70F43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bnonn@orcon.net.nz) Received-SPF: none (dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz: domain of bnonn@orcon.net.nz does not designate permitted sender hosts) receiver=dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz; client-ip=60.234.131.84; envelope-from=; helo=saffron; Received: from saffron (60-234-131-84.bitstream.orcon.net.nz [60.234.131.84]) j2E9UpmF017212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:30:54 +1300 From: Bnonn To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List In-Reply-To: <200503132321.23015.ringworm01@gmail.com> References: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200503132321.23015.ringworm01@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:30:41 +1300 Message-Id: <1110792641.8450.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/761/Fri Mar 11 10:01:48 2005 on dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Page-up in tcsh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:48 -0000 Just goes to show why you should have a decent understanding of the difference between an interpreter and an emulator. Having not grown up on such things, I basically never even realized there was a distinction. Also didn't realize why there was a scroll lock key until now. Thanks :) On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 23:21 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:04 pm, Bnonn wrote: > > This is probably a really stupid question, but I can't find anything > > in the manpages. Surely there's a way to page-up in tcsh? The Page Up > > and Page Down keys do noooothing. > > tcsh is a command line interpreter, ie it only does one line at a time. > Just what are you trying to page up into? Maybe all you need to do is > press the scroll lock key? > > -Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:38:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE8816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:38:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw.dgrp.sk (mailgw.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7767443D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:38:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 9AB3834A5B3; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.38]) by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A475A34A5A2 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with ESMTP id 2005031410381856-2400 ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:18 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2E9c23N024431; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2E9c2EM024428; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 14.03.2005 10:38:18, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 14.03.2005 10:38:19, Serialize complete at 14.03.2005 10:38:19 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mailgw X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 Subject: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:38:26 -0000 Hi, I am using 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 for backup on DDS-4 tapes 40GB in size. # df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/vinum/root 1016162 157405 777465 17% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/vinum/usr 84746248 54467390 23499160 70% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc # camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on ahd0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 9 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 10 lun 0 (sa0,pass2) < > at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 () scbus1 on ahd1 bus 0: at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass3,da2) at scbus1 target 8 lun 0 (pass4,da3) < > at scbus1 target -1 lun -1 () scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) # /sbin/dump -SLu0 -B 41943040 -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Mar 14 10:29:51 2005 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/vinum/usr (/usr) to /dev/sa0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 54189311 tape blocks on 1.29 tape(s). # # mt -f /dev/sa0 status Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: 0x26:DDS-4 variable 97000 DCLZ ---------available modes--------- 0: 0x26:DDS-4 variable 97000 DCLZ 1: 0x26:DDS-4 variable 97000 DCLZ 2: 0x26:DDS-4 variable 97000 DCLZ 3: 0x26:DDS-4 variable 97000 DCLZ --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. --------------------------------- File Number: 0 Record Number: 0 Residual Count 0 I am using the following command: # /sbin/dump -Lu0 -B 41943040 -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr or # /sbin/dump -aLu0 -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr Why I cannot dump the filesystem on 2 tapes (it takes 3, it seems it works without compression) no matter if I use dump or cpio? What I am doing wrong? Any hints appreciated. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:39:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1628816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:39:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [134.25.0.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D29E43D41 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se (honken.sr.se [134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2E9db06069246 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: from bsd-gf.sr.se (oldie [134.25.200.100]) by honken.sr.se (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2E9dbO1068519 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: from bsd-gf.sr.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bsd-gf.sr.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2E9dbjF023700 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from flygt@sr.se) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by bsd-gf.sr.se (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2E9daLw023699 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:36 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050314093936.GA23672@sr.se> Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: IP address management tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:39:40 -0000 Is there anyone out there, knowing of a good tool for managing IP addresses? I want a tool where it is easy to get a picture of how a class B network is divided in to subnets of different sizes, where the dhcp ranges are and what statically addresses there are. Has anyone produced such a tool? database - php -web server based. -- Gunnar Flygt SR Datadrift Sveriges Radio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:50:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C310B16A4CF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1E43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2E9o1b87247; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gunnar Flygt" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:49:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050314093936.GA23672@sr.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: IP address management tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:05 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Is there anyone out there, knowing of a good tool for managing IP > addresses? I want a tool where it is easy to get a picture of how a > class B network is divided in to subnets of different sizes, where the > dhcp ranges are and what statically addresses there are. > > Has anyone produced such a tool? database - php -web server based. There is a tool http://www.freeipdb.org/ It is designed mainly for ISP's who are allocating a lot of subnets. I've set it up and it works as advertised - however the setup is fairly complex. Also, I set it up under Solaris so there may be some FreeBSD differences. I would strongly advise using FreeBSD 4.11 and the included Perl 5.0 rather than a newer version of Perl. The downside is that the developer seems to have lost interest in the project as there's been little new development on it, and the number of people who use it is not a lot. Also, you really should be pretty familiar with subnet mathematics because this isn't a teaching tool by any means. If that is what you are looking for let me know as I can refer you to some of that. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 09:50:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31E243D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1636187wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:50:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QDTxea7dPbeE3T0qnbWIaZXBnGpEybFQMP02DI87MrwyHO6Jew2qBq7snb+UmUtLsM0/uFdtAqfnj1WxmkWsuLkLogDw+S4/DZRZ5kB7SB9iRpJMOgJbUIDk3zOF4Q0tkrQyEEQXodZnWJBz9HzjXy0YtbdrHoQppN6H/LekinI= Received: by 10.54.76.9 with SMTP id y9mr2896362wra; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:50:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:50:44 +0200 From: abu khaled To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20050314093936.GA23672@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050314093936.GA23672@sr.se> Subject: Re: IP address management tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: abu khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:47 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:39:36 +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Is there anyone out there, knowing of a good tool for managing IP > addresses? I want a tool where it is easy to get a picture of how a > class B network is divided in to subnets of different sizes, where the > dhcp ranges are and what statically addresses there are. > > Has anyone produced such a tool? database - php -web server based. > > -- > Gunnar Flygt > SR Datadrift > Sveriges Radio > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ipplan-4.0.4 in the ports...AFAIK It is for FreeBSD 5 STABLE -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 10:36:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6BF16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:36:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD8243D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:36:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.205] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DAmvc-0000B9-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:36:04 +0100 Received: from [217.80.252.23] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DAmvc-0002xq-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: <42356916.1030803@myunix.net> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:36:06 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: kernel message = ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:36:06 -0000 hi, on my freebsd 4.x box I get "no matching session" as an kernel log. I was wondering what this could mean. thx in advance christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 10:37:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52D216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:37:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8B43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1858986rnf for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:37:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NF/GyjEhi0k5BQvixadDojeb321v2+oZQYioOX5smpGgJrFzo9dp/+sAcjaI9HS0Eyp2tW534GLSoMEfxJe/qnf5P68gh5XP2hBOF7lKft2z4u6oqZibyIDamCilbJcRLS3ERof7/p12mn76oqNH88P1xAOS6e53QVFchBOk53A= Received: by 10.38.78.70 with SMTP id a70mr5125537rnb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:36:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:36:49 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503131702.59762.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131313.36925.ringworm01@gmail.com> <200503131702.59762.ringworm01@gmail.com> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:37:09 -0000 On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:02:59 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > Thanks All, its running OK on my system but there are 55 more ports > still to upgrade! I hope yours is a little faster. I've got a P4m 2.2GHz so it isn't that slow. My problem is that I have too much stuff on my drive and so performance suffers cause I'm nearly always 99% full :-D I may get chance to have it finished tonight (or at least get enough of the core stuff done that I can start using the desktop again). Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 10:41:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D9A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6798543D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from pD950FC17.dip.t-dialin.net[217.80.252.23] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1DAn1E246K-00013Y; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:41:52 +0100 Message-ID: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:41:55 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: freebsd 4.x remote server instable... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:41:54 -0000 Hi, I take care of an remote 4.x server and everything worked fine for over an year, but now the box gets unreachable every now and then, but I have no clue why this could be. My question is what kind of logging facility I could run, I addition to the standart out of the box ones, that could tell me what leads to these "crashes"? Sorry for the poor description, but that is all I know, too. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 11:15:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C765216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:15:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA1A43D3F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:15:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luyt@ovosoft.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=36126 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DAnXg-0005Jp-BV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:15:24 +0100 Received: from cc351901-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([82.73.114.87]:33361 helo=localhost.invalid) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DAnXd-0000G8-CN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:15:21 +0100 From: Luyt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:17:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503141217.41465.luyt@ovosoft.nl> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: beastie.4th language ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:15:25 -0000 On Tuesday 08 March 2005 16:00, michelbh@gol.com wrote: > What is this language ? It is FICL, an embeddable Forth interpreter. http://ficl.sourceforge.net/ -- "The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing." - Vinod Vallopillil http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween4.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 11:22:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113B216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:22:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C6043D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [130.159.193.83] (wireless-083.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.193.83])j2EBMGDp013060 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:22:17 GMT Message-ID: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:27:45 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk Subject: Port options and portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:22:24 -0000 Hi, If I want to retain a port option (that perhaps I passed at the command line using -D) between uprades of a port, will portmanager handle this automatically or do the options need to be placed in make.conf? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 11:33:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A30816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F23F43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [130.159.193.83] (wireless-083.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.193.83])j2EBX9Dp013802; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:33:09 GMT Message-ID: <423577BE.8020706@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:38:38 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hodgins References: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Port options and portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:33:16 -0000 Chris Hodgins wrote: > Hi, > > If I want to retain a port option (that perhaps I passed at the command > line using -D) between uprades of a port, will portmanager handle this > automatically or do the options need to be placed in make.conf? > > Thanks > Chris Ah don't worry I have my answer. I need to use make.conf. Found it at the bottom of the portmanager man page. Great detail in the man page Mike. :) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 11:45:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEE516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FB843D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1963500rng for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:45:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ha0gAAeRrZVbFY3PSbxIpzXuFfbhV1dwmo4N2hQ8eKJLH2RfMcJOqu1Y8kd/UOqBKavBI6jvIBAHAHefrInSHljQwwUcnHZbd+j7Tfm2koONXa6HrML1hrtMhvGV1lCOKP10+tyuJkV7j5+FpUwOLrTy3PnZiVM09yLodA6VaAA= Received: by 10.38.90.36 with SMTP id n36mr1563746rnb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:07:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:07:37 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ndis0 error, but it workd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:30 -0000 Hi folks, I have a HP compaq nx7000 notebook with 5.4-PRERELEASE (but the problem was there in 5.2.1-RELEASE and 5.3-RELEASE too). I have a small shell script to bring up my wlan with driver ndis: > cat wlanup #!/bin/sh kldload ndis kldload if_ndis ifconfig ndis0 up ifconfig ndis0 ssid 'my_ssid' nwkey 0xMy_Ex_Key_Here wepmode on > when I call wlanup as root, I get the following: ndis0: mem 0x90000000-0x90000fff irq 5 at device 2.0 on pci2 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: Ethernet address: my_Ex_MAC_Address_here ndis0: 11b rates: 11Mbps 2MBps 1MBps 5.5Mbps which sounds good. Then I get: ndis0: enable WEP failed: 19 ndis0: enable WEP failed: 19 ndis0: enable WEP failed: 19 ndis0: enable WEP failed: 19 which doesn't sound good. Finally it says: ndis0: link up Then the wireless LAN works well, most of the times. Some times I get a "network is down" message, so I have to reboot, and most of the times it then works. The problem is with the WEP key, as fas as I can understand the message. I can assure you that the WEP key is the right one, I double checked with the original one, however I have the prove, because the wlan works. What could lead to the "enable WEP failed: 19" error? Thank you! -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 11:48:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41A016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:48:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rot-1.de (rot-1.de [213.146.120.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A296D43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Received: from mail.rot-1.de (localhost.rot-1.de [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rot-1.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2EBmrVF022416; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:48:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Received: from localhost (stevan@localhost)j2EBmqus022413; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:48:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:48:52 +0100 (CET) From: Stevan Tiefert To: Christian Tischler In-Reply-To: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> Message-ID: <20050314124630.U22336@mail.rot-1.de> References: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd 4.x remote server instable... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:48:45 -0000 Hello Christian, maybe your network-card has a loose contact? You have first to control your hardware! With regards Stevan On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Christian Tischler wrote: > Hi, > I take care of an remote 4.x server and everything worked fine for over > an year, but now the box gets unreachable every now and then, but I have > no clue why this could be. > My question is what kind of logging facility I could run, I addition to > the standart out of the box ones, that could tell me what leads to these > "crashes"? > Sorry for the poor description, but that is all I know, too. > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 12:01:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BF416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:01:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D50D43D53 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:01:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (exo.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29548A94C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:01:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42357D1F.9020508@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:01:35 +0100 From: David Landgren Organization: The Lusty Decadent Delights of Imperial Pompeii User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20050313104132.A5CA04BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050313142855.I67860@maren.thelosingend.net> In-Reply-To: <20050313142855.I67860@maren.thelosingend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:01:38 -0000 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: [...] > It's all about what connotation you put on the word. > > E.g. to make a file world read-writable you would type "chmod 666 file". Ah, but you are talking in octal! % perl -le 'print oct 666' 438 No evil here :) > Even though the number 666 is the number of the devil, the number itself > is not evil. Just as little as the command is evil, or someone who types > it. It's just a number. Put whatever meaning into it you like! Q.E.D. (my apologies for keeping such a silly thread alive) ObTopic: I think the OP was quite within his/her rights about wanting to disable the ASCII-art da?emon, yet wishing to continue to use FreeBSD. I find it pretty silly myself. I also note that FreeBSD understands 'tail -100 -F' and Linux (gnu fileutils?) doesn't. The devil is in the details, as it were. A chorus of "reformat your disk and use something else you lowlife moron without a sense of humour" does little to advance the cause. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 12:07:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB7016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:07:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61005.mail.yahoo.com (web61005.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0CF643D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:07:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86595 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2005 12:07:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 12:10:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBF316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:10:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rot-1.de (rot-1.de [213.146.120.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F61A43D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:10:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Received: from mail.rot-1.de (localhost.rot-1.de [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rot-1.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2ECB5VF022535; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:11:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Received: from localhost (stevan@localhost)j2ECB5n5022532; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:11:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stevan@mail.rot-1.de) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:11:04 +0100 (CET) From: Stevan Tiefert To: Christian Tischler In-Reply-To: <42357C8C.3060107@myunix.net> Message-ID: <20050314130753.P22512@mail.rot-1.de> References: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> <20050314124630.U22336@mail.rot-1.de> <42357C8C.3060107@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd 4.x remote server instable... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:10:56 -0000 Hello Christian, that is senseless, if the network-card is working sometimes and sometimes not, what do you want to diagnoze via software? Only that you have sometimes access and sometimes not. The only thing what you can do to diagnoze via software is, if erverything is working, but in your case something isn't working! And now you have to look at your network-card... With regards Stevan On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Christian Tischler wrote: > I considered that already, but as the server is quite some distance away > I would first try to do something via software. > > I forgot: when the server is rebootet everything works fine for some time. > > Christian > > Stevan Tiefert wrote: > > >Hello Christian, > > > >maybe your network-card has a loose contact? You have first to control > >your hardware! > > > >With regards > >Stevan > > > >On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Christian Tischler wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >>I take care of an remote 4.x server and everything worked fine for over > >>an year, but now the box gets unreachable every now and then, but I have > >>no clue why this could be. > >>My question is what kind of logging facility I could run, I addition to > >>the standart out of the box ones, that could tell me what leads to these > >>"crashes"? > >>Sorry for the poor description, but that is all I know, too. > >> > >>Christian > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 12:40:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56DC16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:40:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF6B43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b180.otenet.gr [212.205.244.188]) j2ECda5D006456; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:39:38 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2ECdtTN001265; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:39:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2ECdrj1001264; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:39:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:39:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:40:20 -0000 On 2005-03-13 16:53, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >> While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD >> vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of >> them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from >> redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. >> >> Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in >> FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. > > Some vendors may be directly patching certain features, for the most > part you shouldn't have to download a specific kernel for a feature to > work in Linux unless you wanted it pre-packaged. You should be able > to update it by downloading the latest features, running the config to > enable/disable what features you want compiled into the kernel (or as > modules), then compile it. On the contrary, there are numerous cases when local patches, specific to the distribution of Linux that is used, are used: https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00050.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/msg00018.html Backported fixes are not evil, but they are bad when they are available only if you are running "FooLinux version X". > But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did > something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be > allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of > enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree > whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that > particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it > configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a > matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. Hardly. Configuration changes will never fix a driver that is only available as a patch to the kernel source tree, when the patch fails to apply, build or install correctly -- a common case with some drivers (i.e. Cisco VPN or SysKonnect). It's a bit surprising that Linus dismisses the BSD kernel teams as fragmented, when one considers the multitude of sites and the dozens of "local hacks, patches" and other interesting stuff one has to do in order to customize the kernel installation of a Linux kernel. Let us put aside for a while the blatant error of considering three distinct systems as one, when they are just that: three distinct systems that just happen to share a lot of code and like cooperating on work that is a benefit for all three. There *is* one place where I can go to download my FreeBSD stuff. There is one web page, and not a zillion different sites that I have to search through for hours. There is a single CVSup mirror that I can use both at work and at home. But that's because I'm using _one_ of the BSD systems. People who use some other BSD-derived system go to their own sets of sites, mirrors, etc. > I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my > FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the > configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. Actually, you can. The NetBSD folks state that only a system relatively compliant with POSIX is required for cross-building NetBSD on a local, non-NetBSD system: http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/BUILDING?rev=1.53&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup (See the REQUIREMENTS section.) > I *think* (and I'm not following the story closely) what Linus was > saying is that it's stupid to have so many people working in parallel > on such similar cousins...NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. They share > code, they share info, but optimize for certain goals and have a lot > of redundancy. Redundancy is good from a survival perspective. Diversity is also good, from an evolutionary perspective. For every bad thing Linus can say about having separate teams working on the systems they enjoy working with, we can probably come up with htwo reasons why this is good. > Linux's kernel is Linux's kernel, modified by individuals but still > one big bulky source tree to work from. Hardly. Otherwise, it would be easy to point a browser to a single, central place and browse the history of the Linux kernel from 0.9.x to 1.x and then to 2.x. The fact that some bits are available in a proprietary repository somewhere is not good enough. In general, it's a nice interview of Linus and very enjoyable to read, but I'm afraid he is not right about everything when he talks about the BSDs; which is not very surprising, I guess. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 12:59:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BC116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:59:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pukruppa.net (reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AA443D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:59:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2ED08TO062412; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:00:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:00:08 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Martin Schweizer In-Reply-To: <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Message-ID: <20050314135818.K72299@pukruppa.net> References: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Bart Silverstrim Subject: Re: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:59:10 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Bart > > Am Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:14PM -0500 Bart Silverstrim schrieb: >> >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Martin Schweizer wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the >>> client >>> the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can >>> successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the >>> xdm. What >>> do I wrong? >> >> What do you mean? If you're starting the X app on the remote system >> using X-forwarding with ssh, you're running a remote application using >> the remote system's CPU and memory. If you're trying to do something >> like open a whole X session on the remote system like a remote >> terminal, something like a "remote desktop", you'd probably need to >> look into using something like VNC over SSH or something using XNest >> may work. > > Now I can start remote applications (like OpenOffice) remote without problems. > My goals are to use a "remote desktop" (like you describe). Is there a VNC > server for X? There are several for different puposes and tastes. You will find them by # cd /usr/ports/ # make search key=vnc Good Luck, Uli. > > -- > > Regards > > Martin Schweizer > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:12:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3352D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:12:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB9443D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:12:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=hercules.codepad.net) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DApNQ-000Gpz-H4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:12:56 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:12:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050312095532.C3A1F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503141312.53533.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Getting rid of message: unknown: can't assign resources (port) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:12:59 -0000 On Saturday 12 March 2005 10:25, abu khaled wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 04:55:32 -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova > > wrote: > > haye! > > > > i'm just kinda tired of seeing this in my dmesg. > > can i make my kernel ignore it? > > > > thanks! > > > > -- fafa > > -- > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > The following is an excerpt from a post to the freebsd-current mailing > list. > > The ``can't assign resources'' messages indicate that the devices > are legacy ISA devices for which a non-PnP-aware driver is compiled > into the kernel. These include devices such as keyboard controllers, > the programmable interrupt controller chip, and several other bits of > standard infrastructure. The resources cannot be assigned because > there is already a driver using those addresses. > > --Garrett Wollman , 24 April 2001 > > PNP0700 is the "Standard floppy disk controller" > AFAIK if the Floppy Disk is working then these messages do not mean > that there is a problem. > > * I do not know how to disable the message. I have them to. > > unknown: can't assign resources (port) > *Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard* > > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) > *Motherboard resources* > > unknown: can't assign resources (port) > *Motherboard resources* > > unknown: can't assign resources (port) > *Standard floppy disk controller* > > Everyhing is working just fine!!! > > -- > Kind regards > Abu Khaled I have a few of them too. How do i find out what they refer too? Also my floppy disk doesn't work but that's not really a problem for me. unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) -- /Xian "The only real valuable thing is intuition." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 08:27:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196C316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:27:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sky.muh.ru (sky.muh.ru [212.5.115.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4AE43D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:27:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roma@muh.ru) Received: from n1227wxp2 (n1-227wxp-2.campus.muh.ru [192.168.19.7]) by sky.muh.ru (8.13.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2E8REeP051821 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:27:15 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from roma@muh.ru) Message-Id: <200503140827.j2E8REeP051821@sky.muh.ru> From: "roma" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:27:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUob4yhJeiHP5XCRHCiwA5dooO8aQ== X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-107.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * 0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -9.8 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * 2.7 AWL AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on sky.muh.ru X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:19:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: linux_base compatibility issue? Counter-Strike X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:27:19 -0000 Hi, At me the same problem as at you, whether was possible to you to solve it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 10:59:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F41F16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:59:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay11-dav35.bay11.hotmail.com [64.4.39.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4EF43D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:59:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benbenik@msn.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:59:38 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 145.94.35.47 by BAY11-DAV35.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:59:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [145.94.35.47] X-Originating-Email: [benbenik@msn.com] X-Sender: benbenik@msn.com From: "Ben" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:54:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2741.2600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2005 10:59:38.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA7C3590:01C52884] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:20:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: New I/O mobo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:59:39 -0000 Dear members, I'll bash in right away. Here is what happend: 1) I replaced my old motherboard with a new one, and reconnected all = components, that where on the old board, to the new one. 2) Booting did go well, till the message: "Root mount failed". 3) I redifined the mount points of / /tmp /var /usr via Index>label and = toggled N to Y (Boot-cd), just like it was on installation. 4) Booting didn't go well, so I let the boot-cd create a new MBR. 5) System started up fine, but all users are gone, no root-password = needs to be given when loggin in, mount directories of previous = harddisks are gone. Bottom line, I don't recognize my old system's = directory structure, it's like a new system. (No, I din't format, = re-sliced, etc). Questions: a) What to do to get a system up and running after putting a harddisk on = another (S)ATA channel on the motherboard? (So, I don't screw up next = time). b) How could I get my old system back, or this not possible because I = screwed up? My system: Old board ABIT BX-133, new Abit VA6 FreeBSD 5.3 RC1. Already installed, so no new installation. Disk with OS: MAXTOR 40GB. I searched freebsd.org, google.com and several forums. No relevant = information could be retrieved by me. Thank you very much for your time. Kind regards, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:28:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB93116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:28:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C82143D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so2017867rng for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:28:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BkM7Qz/PmQnEPsQIoeGQfKS/ANVc/+DJRabDyXQKPWH0bxtP6oOmN4xRXc3DDUND656MYogLrpEJng7VY2W6TgYymvX7vdIbaw/S7JqNosEY2hZ8//PYsTvN37e+kgacZeegXnzZXJysnG5KdMq8exkmOXTOu/gSSEFtEmSxK1Q= Received: by 10.38.74.71 with SMTP id w71mr587988rna; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:27:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:27:19 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dd on samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:28:02 -0000 Hi folks, I need to backup my whole disk, re organize my partitions, and then restore the whole thing. The problem is that the only place where I can put the backup is a samba mount. dd and dump won't work (they won't put the data on a directory). What else could I do? Don't forget that I also need to backup the whole / and /var (which gives sometimes problems with some unreadable files) Thank you! -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E70F16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:35:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pukruppa.net (reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A88B43D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2EDacgA089724; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:36:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:36:37 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050314143454.W72299@pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: dd on samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:35:26 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > Hi folks, > I need to backup my whole disk, re organize my partitions, and then > restore the whole thing. > > The problem is that the only place where I can put the backup > is a samba mount. > > dd and dump won't work (they won't put the data on a directory). > > What else could I do? There probably are some dozen possibilities, but you could try /usr/ports/net/rsync Regards, Uli. > > Don't forget that I also need to backup the whole / and /var (which > gives sometimes problems with some unreadable files) > > Thank you! > > -- > Pietro "Piter" Cerutti > > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:37:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC08816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:37:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1932A43D6B for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:37:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1700565wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:37:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=tBVQTBVNQ0/zq2DtG8gSHTNmKAYDkPpwfkJN69LUvqvEHAfjsO0+WM7+iG0qFfJ54cxzEKI/BkJv2Ike5Bn6XwSqnpiEGwRH6Ldn3IDzuXRbDo+ZFKeE4a45ZqWTQ2dswZMl2IWRZHzUSpj8TJQra10Jxysa0jgPbtTX+r+vxtI= Received: by 10.54.45.14 with SMTP id s14mr4767400wrs; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.22 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:37:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <126eac48050314053764857284@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:37:27 +0100 From: Josh Ockert To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Bart Silverstrim Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:37:28 -0000 http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/60/112/ is the interview, btw On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:39:53 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-13 16:53, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > >> While each distros kernel is probably less different than a NetBSD > >> vs. FreeBSD kernel, there still each different and a lot more of > >> them. I had to download and install a very specific kernel from > >> redhat to use on my debian system so I could use my wireless card. > >> > >> Also, some features can very wildly like IPSEC, some distros patch in > >> FreeSWAN's stack, others the KAME stack. > > > > Some vendors may be directly patching certain features, for the most > > part you shouldn't have to download a specific kernel for a feature to > > work in Linux unless you wanted it pre-packaged. You should be able > > to update it by downloading the latest features, running the config to > > enable/disable what features you want compiled into the kernel (or as > > modules), then compile it. > > On the contrary, there are numerous cases when local patches, specific > to the distribution of Linux that is used, are used: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00050.html > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/msg00018.html > > Backported fixes are not evil, but they are bad when they are available > only if you are running "FooLinux version X". > > > But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did > > something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be > > allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of > > enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree > > whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that > > particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it > > configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a > > matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. > > Hardly. Configuration changes will never fix a driver that is only > available as a patch to the kernel source tree, when the patch fails > to apply, build or install correctly -- a common case with some drivers > (i.e. Cisco VPN or SysKonnect). > > It's a bit surprising that Linus dismisses the BSD kernel teams as > fragmented, when one considers the multitude of sites and the dozens of > "local hacks, patches" and other interesting stuff one has to do in > order to customize the kernel installation of a Linux kernel. > > Let us put aside for a while the blatant error of considering three > distinct systems as one, when they are just that: three distinct systems > that just happen to share a lot of code and like cooperating on work > that is a benefit for all three. > > There *is* one place where I can go to download my FreeBSD stuff. There > is one web page, and not a zillion different sites that I have to search > through for hours. There is a single CVSup mirror that I can use both > at work and at home. But that's because I'm using _one_ of the BSD > systems. People who use some other BSD-derived system go to their own > sets of sites, mirrors, etc. > > > I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my > > FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the > > configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. > > Actually, you can. The NetBSD folks state that only a system relatively > compliant with POSIX is required for cross-building NetBSD on a local, > non-NetBSD system: > > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/BUILDING?rev=1.53&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup > (See the REQUIREMENTS section.) > > > I *think* (and I'm not following the story closely) what Linus was > > saying is that it's stupid to have so many people working in parallel > > on such similar cousins...NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD. They share > > code, they share info, but optimize for certain goals and have a lot > > of redundancy. > > Redundancy is good from a survival perspective. Diversity is also good, > from an evolutionary perspective. For every bad thing Linus can say > about having separate teams working on the systems they enjoy working > with, we can probably come up with htwo reasons why this is good. > > > Linux's kernel is Linux's kernel, modified by individuals but still > > one big bulky source tree to work from. > > Hardly. Otherwise, it would be easy to point a browser to a single, > central place and browse the history of the Linux kernel from 0.9.x to > 1.x and then to 2.x. The fact that some bits are available in a > proprietary repository somewhere is not good enough. > > In general, it's a nice interview of Linus and very enjoyable to read, > but I'm afraid he is not right about everything when he talks about the > BSDs; which is not very surprising, I guess. > > - Giorgos > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:46:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B23416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A343D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 111587 for multiple; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:46:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> References: <20050313181048.GC46872@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050314053801.GD46872@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <64c6fbe60b1fad1ddb1d5f10967d46f4@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:46:39 -0500 To: Martin Schweizer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remote contact x server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:46:36 -0000 On Mar 14, 2005, at 12:38 AM, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Bart > > Am Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:14PM -0500 Bart Silverstrim schrieb: >> >> On Mar 13, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Martin Schweizer wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> I've two X server: a client and a server. How I can contact from the >>> client >>> the server (I read some articles but did not find a solution)? I can >>> successfully start X applications over SSH but I can't contact the >>> xdm. What >>> do I wrong? >> >> What do you mean? If you're starting the X app on the remote system >> using X-forwarding with ssh, you're running a remote application using >> the remote system's CPU and memory. If you're trying to do something >> like open a whole X session on the remote system like a remote >> terminal, something like a "remote desktop", you'd probably need to >> look into using something like VNC over SSH or something using XNest >> may work. > > Now I can start remote applications (like OpenOffice) remote without > problems. > My goals are to use a "remote desktop" (like you describe). Is there a > VNC > server for X? There is; there should be some documentation for it if you google for VNC x terminal. Someone else may have more specific search terms, but I remember experimenting with this a few months ago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 13:56:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB5816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:56:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC36243D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:56:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zettel@acm.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (bgp966574bgs.derbrn01.mi.comcast.net[68.41.108.205]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005031413562701300oh3jpe>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:56:27 +0000 From: Leonard Zettel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, racerx@makeworld.com Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:56:49 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4234FF1F.8030408@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503140856.49843.zettel@acm.org> Subject: Re: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:56:30 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 10:03 pm, Chris wrote: > Any ideas on how to setup an HPLJ 1100 using either cups or lpd? My Laserjet 1100 works quite nicely after I followed the instructions in the handbook chapter on printing and then installed ghostscript. Also needed the tip published here recently on dealing with interrupt storms. -LenZ- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 14:24:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0932016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBBC43D68 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDC0095LIOZTG60@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5BC82CE740; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:24:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:24:32 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <423577BE.8020706@cis.strath.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503140624.32765.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> <423577BE.8020706@cis.strath.ac.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Port options and portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:38 -0000 On Monday 14 March 2005 03:38 am, Chris Hodgins wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > > Hi, > > > > If I want to retain a port option (that perhaps I passed at the > > command line using -D) between uprades of a port, will portmanager > > handle this automatically or do the options need to be placed in > > make.conf? > > > > Thanks > > Chris > > Ah don't worry I have my answer. I need to use make.conf. Found it > at the bottom of the portmanager man page. Great detail in the man > page Mike. :) > > Chris welcome :) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 14:27:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B8516A4CF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:27:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7F243D5C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:27:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDC0062FITLZZA0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:27:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CBE092CE740; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:27:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:27:18 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <1110792641.8450.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503140627.19135.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <1110783859.8450.125.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200503132321.23015.ringworm01@gmail.com> <1110792641.8450.128.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Page-up in tcsh? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:27:22 -0000 > > On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 23:21 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:04 pm, Bnonn wrote: > > > This is probably a really stupid question, but I can't find > > > anything in the manpages. Surely there's a way to page-up in > > > tcsh? The Page Up and Page Down keys do noooothing. > > > > tcsh is a command line interpreter, ie it only does one line at a > > time. Just what are you trying to page up into? Maybe all you need > > to do is press the scroll lock key? > > > > -Mike On Monday 14 March 2005 01:30 am, Bnonn wrote: > Just goes to show why you should have a decent understanding of the > difference between an interpreter and an emulator. Having not grown > up on such things, I basically never even realized there was a > distinction. Also didn't realize why there was a scroll lock key > until now. 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b14mr1198206rnf; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from d ([67.102.60.210]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 72sm321649rna.2005.03.14.05.15.42; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:16:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000601c52897$ef578430$0366a8c0@d> From: "Dennis Olvany" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:15:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: mysql troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:03:33 -0000 just installed it and having trouble getting it going fresh mysql4.1 install on fbsd5.3 bsd# mysqladmin flush-privileges mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket = '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' = exists! bsd# mysql_install_db --user=3Dmysql Installing all prepared tables Fill help tables 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_category.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:34 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_topic.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_keyword.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) 050314 7:15:35 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: = './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) ERROR: 1017 Can't find file: './mysql/help_relation.frm' (errno: 13) To start mysqld at boot time you have to copy support-files/mysql.server to the right place for your system PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER ! To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands: /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password' /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h bsd.carcass.us password = 'new-password' See the manual for more instructions. NOTE: If you are upgrading from a MySQL <=3D 3.22.10 you should run the /usr/local/bin/mysql_fix_privilege_tables. Otherwise you will not be able to use the new GRANT command! You can start the MySQL daemon with: cd /usr/local ; /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe & You can test the MySQL daemon with the benchmarks in the 'sql-bench' = directory: cd sql-bench ; perl run-all-tests Please report any problems with the /usr/local/bin/mysqlbug script! The latest information about MySQL is available on the web at http://www.mysql.com Support MySQL by buying support/licenses at https://order.mysql.com bsd# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:23:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4FA16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:23:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nimsay-networks.com (trance.nimsay-networks.com [82.96.86.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1671D43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@bsdunix.us) Received: (qmail 20055 invoked by uid 1015); 14 Mar 2005 15:23:07 -0000 Received: from 67.143.7.33 by trance (envelope-from , uid 1015) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(67.143.7.33):. Processed in 5.147588 secs); 14 Mar 2005 15:23:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.19.0.219?) (eric@bsdunix.us@67.143.7.33) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 15:23:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4235ADFE.2050400@bsdunix.us> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:30:06 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> <20050313215820.B74062@april.chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <20050313215820.B74062@april.chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:23:06 -0000 I removed above this to save some bandwidth, as bandwidth is not free every where in the world :) Chuck Robey wrote: >>I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: >> >> Identifier "Mouse1" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "Auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" >> >> > >I am running FreeBSD-6.0-current, but I bet it works for you like it works >(just fine) for me. Try it, what have you got to lose? However, if it >works, you owe us a usage report, Sirrah! > >Anyhow, FreeBSD is not terribly willing to share the mouse. When it >boots, the stupid thing will start 'moused' processes on both mouses. >Check this with: > >ps -ax | grep mouse > >if it's like I think it is, one of the lines that come back will report a >device filename of ums0. You need this process dead, dead, dead. You >*could*, I suppose, edit /etc/usbd.conf ... > >After you do that, the stuff you have above for Xorg isn't enough either, >cause you left out the wheel. take those lines out and replace them with > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >EndSection > >Don't forget, at the top: > >Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >EndSection > > >Try this, tell me how it works. > > > Chuck, Setting my mouse driver to "ums0", will make X crash before loading. My box never reported the ums0 device/the usb mouse. The usbd is running. There is no moused processes running on this box, as it is disabled in /etc/rc.conf. I get the scroll wheel to work as a middle button, but you are right, the scroll feature does not work. Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Setting those two options does not enable the scroll wheel. I think that is due to the generic PS/2 driver reported in dmesg. Having a working scroll wheel was never a issue for me :) Also note, I never tried FreeBSD 6.x . I am not sure if the following info matters or not: This is included as it may give you some hints for fixing the wheel feature. This mouse config was a combination of some google hints that led me to look at, 'man psm', 'man device.hints', and my experience with Freebsd 4.x. FreeBSD 4.x taught me that using /dev/bpsm0 in the X config would work, with this mouse and this kvm. I didn't try setting up the moused in /etc/rc.conf with FreeBSD 5.x. In FreeBSD 4.x adding the bpsm0 config to /etc/rc.conf just lead to error messages getting reported to my shells every so often. Here is some additional info: %ls /dev acd0 ata fido psm0 ttyv3 acpi atkbd0 geom.ctl ptyp0 ttyv4 ad0 audio0.0 io ptyp1 ttyv5 ad0s1 audio0.1 kbd0 ptyp2 ttyv6 ad0s10 bpf0 klog ptyp3 ttyv7 ad0s1a bpsm0 kmem random ttyv8 ad0s1b console log sndstat ttyv9 ad0s1c consolectl lpt0 stderr ttyva ad0s1d ctty lpt0.ctl stdin ttyvb ad0s1e cuaa0 mdctl stdout ttyvc ad0s1f cuaia0 mem sysmouse ttyvd ad0s2 cuala0 mixer0 ttyd0 ttyve ad0s3 devctl net ttyid0 ttyvf ad0s4 devstat net1 ttyld0 urandom ad0s5 dsp0.0 net2 ttyp0 usb ad0s6 dsp0.1 net3 ttyp1 usb0 ad0s7 dspW0.0 network ttyp2 usb1 ad0s8 dspW0.1 nfs4 ttyp3 usb2 ad0s9 dspr0.1 null ttyv0 xpt0 agpgart fd pci ttyv1 zero apm fd0 ppi0 ttyv2 %cat /etc/rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 # Created: Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. hostname="demon-spawn.bsdunix.us" ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" linux_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" moused_port="/dev/psm0" moused_type="auto" moused_enable="NO" % %ps auxw | grep usbd root 362 0.0 0.2 1240 780 ?? Ss 5:51AM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/usbd eric 871 0.0 0.1 348 232 p3 R+ 7:38AM 0:00.00 grep usbd %ps auxw | grep mouse eric 1240 0.0 0.5 2276 1760 p1 RV 9:18AM 0:00.00 grep mouse (csh) this seems like a waste of bandwidth but... %dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Mar 13 08:53:16 CST 2005 root@demon-spawn.bsdunix.us:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz (2790.96-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff real memory = 394199040 (375 MB) avail memory = 376037376 (358 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xdff80000-0xdfffffff,0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M uhci0: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xec00-0xec1f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib1 pci3: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) rl0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xdfdfbf00-0xdfdfbfff irq 17 at device 10.0 on pci3 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:6a:66:64:b3 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pcm0: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f,0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xdff7b900-0xdff7b9ff,0xdff7ba00-0xdff7bbff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2790956669 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a % I hope all the above answered your questions Chuck and maybe gives you and others some more info :) YMMV, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A4B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B89F43D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:30:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2EFUQj15904; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:30:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503141530.j2EFUQj15904@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: lorenl@alzatex.com (Loren M. Lang) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:30:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050313082656.GB18080@alzatex.com> from "Loren M. Lang" at Mar 13, 2005 12:26:56 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:30:28 -0000 > > > > Is there an easy way to combine a backup and verify when doing backups > > > with dump? > > >=20 > > > I've never had a problem with backup (I backup to DAT tape), but I'd > > > feel better if every backup was followed by a verify to make sure the > > > tape is readable. > >=20 > > to the ones on disk. Any changes mean an error, even if it was a > > real change in the file between the time it was written and the > > time it was read back. > >=20 > > The only real thing you can do is to read back the tape and look > > for a couple of files with fairly high inode numbers for each file > > system dumped. If you can read them, you can assume the tape > > is readable. > > I'm not very familiar with tapes, but I think that the dump is written > straight out to something like /dev/st0 right? So then wouldn't a > second dump of the same snapshot diffed to the tape device be a good for > a verify? > > Position tape at beginning of dump > dump / | diff - /dev/st0 > No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second time is different from the first time. That is the same problem as using the verify option with dump. The only way to do it would be to do your dumps on a completely quiescent system - single user mode maybe. Most places cannot afford to make file systems completely unavailable for periods of time long enough (several hours, up to a couple of days) to allow dump to be run twice without any changes being made to the file system. ////jerry > Though I don't have much experience with either dump or tapes to verify. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:36:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3756016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:36:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D1643D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:36:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDC00FW2M0V1D@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:36:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2EFZYeC002309; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:35:34 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2EFZWEL002308; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:35:32 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:35:32 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-id: <20050314153532.GA825@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <42326F4D.70008@daleco.biz> <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: Mike Loiterman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Incorrect geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:36:40 -0000 On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:20:25AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:32:19PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > > Mike Loiterman wrote: > > >> When I do a new install of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE I get an error saying > > >> the drive geometry is incorrect. In the next screen, I put in the > > >> correct geometry, as reported by the BIOS, but after I hit q, I get > > >> the same error. > > >> > > >> The drive is a brand new 160 SATA Segate. The geometry FreeBSD > > >> suggests yield 152 Gigs, slices correctly and functions perfectly. > > >> I'm plannning on reformating anyway as this is only a test run, but > > >> do I need to be conserned about the error? > > > > > > Isn't the rest of the error message "using a more likely geometry?" > > > > > > IANAE, but I believe FBSD is simply stating that it doesn't find > > > the BIOS's numbers to be what it wants, so it's going to use > > > its own. This would explain the effect you see in the second > > > sentence above. > > > > > > As "yield", "slice", and "function" seems OK, I think "go for it!" > > > is perfectly good advice in this instance. I've seen the error > > > several times, too, and so far so good. > > > > It does say, "using a more likely geometry". The numbers are vastly > > different then what the BIOS says, but as I said, the capacity seems > > correct and it functions normally. > > > > I just don't want to have any trouble down the road... > > It shouldn't be a problem. Geometries nowdays aren't as useful as they > used to be and aren't really used much, LBA alleviates most of that. > The geometries that FreeBSD uses aren't the same that the drive > internally uses. In fact, using geometries has been the cause of an old > 8 gig limit on hard drives, a newer 137 gig limit, and an old boot > loader problem booting anything over cylinder 1023. > > As for the missing 8 gigs, that's probably because your hard drive > manufacture used SI units (10^3=1000) instead of the standard units > (2^10=1024) just to make the number look bigger. My 250 gig drive is > only 238 gig in reality. Back when I installed 5.2 I to got this error. I went along with it, but this seemed to cause the system to not be able to reboot. This is proberbly the worst that can happen to you. Somehow I was able to install it with the orignal setting. Afther this it would reboot. No when running FDISK Partition Editor from /stand/sysinstall it says: A geometry of 484521/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. But when running fdisk off the shell it says: parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2E116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:45:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0462143D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:45:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2EFjbUQ018404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:45:38 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2EFjXWb018402; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:45:33 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:45:33 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Message-ID: <20050314154533.GS18080@alzatex.com> References: <200503100325.j2A3PjhQ069843@istari.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rQAi4ZBraoACHIeu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503100325.j2A3PjhQ069843@istari.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPMS not turning off LCD screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:45:53 -0000 --rQAi4ZBraoACHIeu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 10:25:45PM -0500, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: > I have a Sony SDM-HX93 LCD monitor running off an Nvidia GeForce FX > 5500. >=20 > I have the DPMS option set in my xorg configuration file, but while > the screen turns off, the monitor never enters power off mode (it > remains 'backlit'). >=20 > Any suggestions where to look for the error? What does xset say about dpms? You may have to tell xscreensaver or kdesktop specifically to use dpms in addition to the xorg.conf file. >=20 > Thanks, > --=20 > Stephen J. Roznowski (sjr@comcast.net) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --rQAi4ZBraoACHIeu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNbGdbTXoRwEYo9IRAuioAJ0YJyg/l/XmMlzGvmImgXTgrSGHbACZAWDo Z7wsL3ArfXYDvbEsO3Efa48= =95sP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rQAi4ZBraoACHIeu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:47:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B432716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8B643D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 4135F4892; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:01 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3166; Mon, 14 Mar 05 16:47:00 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16DC4892 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:00 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id C964A38012; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F345C002 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:00 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050314153532.GA825@Alex.lan> Message-ID: References: <42326F4D.70008@daleco.biz> <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> <20050314153532.GA825@Alex.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: IPFW or pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:47:04 -0000 I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel without switching on any explicit support for pf. Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references to pf in my startup scripts. Is pf some kind of mandatory part of the base system these days? I thought it was some kind of alternative to IPFW, but now I'm no longer so sure. Can someone tell me if it's ok to just use IPFW on my STABLE system, or is there some other knobs in the kernelconfig I should toggle to turn off pf support? /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 15:55:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A9316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:55:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFC943D62 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 116782 for multiple; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:55:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7b1348cc2feb386f19ba391700245abe@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:55:00 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:55:00 -0000 On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-13 16:53, Bart Silverstrim > wrote: > > On the contrary, there are numerous cases when local patches, specific > to the distribution of Linux that is used, are used: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00050.html > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/ > msg00018.html > > Backported fixes are not evil, but they are bad when they are available > only if you are running "FooLinux version X". Just for drivers? I wasn't sure what DM was...are any of these patches that were released available as source for other Linux kernels, or are these things being released without ever giving out the source to integrate with the primary Linux kernel tree? >> But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did >> something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be >> allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of >> enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree >> whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that >> particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it >> configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a >> matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. > > Hardly. Configuration changes will never fix a driver that is only > available as a patch to the kernel source tree, when the patch fails > to apply, build or install correctly -- a common case with some drivers > (i.e. Cisco VPN or SysKonnect). You're right, if you have an application that requires modification to the kernel then config changes won't fix it. But that isn't the common case, and you should be able to take that application and apply it to the kernel tree source to create the working version, no? Or are they distro specific? In the few times I ran into it the "melding" wasn't distro-specific. > Let us put aside for a while the blatant error of considering three > distinct systems as one, when they are just that: three distinct > systems > that just happen to share a lot of code and like cooperating on work > that is a benefit for all three. Then it would best be summed up as a difference in opinion over operations management and organization management. >> I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my >> FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the >> configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. > > Actually, you can. The NetBSD folks state that only a system > relatively > compliant with POSIX is required for cross-building NetBSD on a local, > non-NetBSD system: > > http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/BUILDING?rev=1.53&content- > type=text/x-cvsweb-markup > (See the REQUIREMENTS section.) No, I didn't mean compile it and deploy it. I mean replace my system's kernel with that kernel and have it work. The source trees are different, the resulting kernel would expect to work on a NetBSD *system*, not a FreeBSD system with a NetBSD kernel. > Redundancy is good from a survival perspective. Diversity is also > good, > from an evolutionary perspective. For every bad thing Linus can say > about having separate teams working on the systems they enjoy working > with, we can probably come up with htwo reasons why this is good. Again, it's a difference in organization and management opinion. > Hardly. Otherwise, it would be easy to point a browser to a single, > central place and browse the history of the Linux kernel from 0.9.x to > 1.x and then to 2.x. The fact that some bits are available in a > proprietary repository somewhere is not good enough. I was under the impression that kernel.org was the authoritative source for the Linux kernel. What people are doing on the side was their own project. *shrug* I could be wrong :-) > In general, it's a nice interview of Linus and very enjoyable to read, > but I'm afraid he is not right about everything when he talks about the > BSDs; which is not very surprising, I guess. No, but don't discount editing of the interview as a factor too in accuracy. But on the other hand, Linus doesn't really give a flip about BSD. He has his own project, and he does (justifiably) have a lot to be proud of (at the risk of inflating his ego more). He doesn't sound like he's really all that involved in distro flamewars or whatnot. So...it's just another article for people to read :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:01:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E57616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out-mx1.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E8143D41 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from teilhk@crosswinds.net) Received: from member-mx1.crosswinds.net (member-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.43]) by out-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8DE2BAF9 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fortunato (dsl-200-78-29-242.prod-infinitum.com.mx [200.78.29.242]) by member-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5484582A08 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:01:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01c528af$0b1f84d0$210110ac@fortunato> From: "Teilhard Knight" To: "FreeBSD" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:01:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: CD Doesn't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:01:14 -0000 I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 in a laptop which I just recently bought. Problem is that the installation CD wouldn't boot. I have tried burning several brands of disks and trying them in other computers and I am now sure is not the media. I even disabled hyperthreading in the BIOS and nothing. Anyone can offer some advise about what to do? Teilhard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BF916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0678143D3F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDC005TFNSNCN@smtp16.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:14:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2EGDo1L000919 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:13:50 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2EGDnrM000918 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:13:49 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:13:49 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050314161349.GA763@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f Subject: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:14:49 -0000 Hi, I've recently reinstalled windows. Windows removes the MBR as you know. So ather I installed it I set partion 1 (FreeBSD) active and rebooted. Then I followed the handbook and did fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0. Now I get the orginal screen afther booting. Only it beeps when I press F2 (Windows). I can mount the second partion on FreeBSD, but cant boot. Any ideas to what I'm missing here? # fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 20971377 (10239 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 104/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)) start 20980890, size 20948760 (10228 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 0/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 41942880, size 446454288 (217995 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 210/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 80/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3E116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4280C43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:28:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8285A13C643 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 81774 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Mar 2005 16:28:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 16:28:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:26 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200503141530.j2EFUQj15904@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20050314172547.Y81679@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <200503141530.j2EFUQj15904@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: Jerry McAllister cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:28:50 -0000 * Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] > > [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to > > the tape device be a good for a verify? > No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second > time is different from the first time. : > Most places cannot afford to make file systems completely unavailable > for periods of time long enough (several hours, up to a couple of days) > to allow dump to be run twice without any changes being made to the > file system. Note the OP's use of the word "snapshot". I think he is right! Or if he isn't; it has nothing to do with the filesystem beeing changed, but rather something to do with the way the backup is written to tape. However, I do think snapshots could be used for exactly this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:33:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389DB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F82E43D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 20803 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 16:14:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 16:14:11 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:14:55 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" Message-ID: <20050314131455.19f64d43@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <200503100325.j2A3PjhQ069843@istari.comcast.net> References: <200503100325.j2A3PjhQ069843@istari.comcast.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPMS not turning off LCD screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:33:16 -0000 On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:25:45 -0500 (EST) "Stephen J. Roznowski" wrote: > I have a Sony SDM-HX93 LCD monitor running off an Nvidia GeForce FX > 5500. > > I have the DPMS option set in my xorg configuration file, but while > the screen turns off, the monitor never enters power off mode (it > remains 'backlit'). > > Any suggestions where to look for the error? > > Thanks, > -- > Stephen J. Roznowski (sjr@comcast.net) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, The configuration file 'xorg.conf' can have the following settings (for more information see xorg.conf(5)): ============================================================= Section "ServerFlags" [...] Option "BlankTime" "3" # just blank the screen Option "StandbyTime" "5" # DPMS state "stand by" Option "SuspendTime" "5" # DPMS state "suspend" Option "OffTime" "5" # DPMS state "off" EndSection Section "Monitor" [...] Option "DPMS" # enable DPMS EndSection ============================================================= The first 4 option lines (in section "ServerFlags") contain the name of the option followed by the number of minutes of inactivity to wait before activate them. The last option (in section "Monitor") *must* be enabled for DPMS to work. In some monitors (like mine) all the DPMS states of inactivity are the same, that turn off the monitor. The "BlankTime" indicated the time to wait before displaying a black screen, not turning off (or suspend, etc.) the monitor, like DPMS states do. So im my monitor, after 3 mminutes of inactivity the screen will be blanked, then, if I do not do anything, 2 minutes after that the monitor will turn off. The commands to try them are: Try one DPMS state (choose one): xset dpms force (off|standby|suspend) Try the screen blank (sleep is required because when you press enter it starts, but when you release it, or it start repeating, it stops): xset s blank sleep 3 ; xset s activate Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:45:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6BD16A4CF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:45:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C63BB43D5E for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 38139 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 16:27:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 16:27:52 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:28:36 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Teilhard Knight" Message-ID: <20050314132836.5d760969@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <000e01c528af$0b1f84d0$210110ac@fortunato> References: <000e01c528af$0b1f84d0$210110ac@fortunato> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: CD Doesn't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:45:53 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:01:10 -0600 "Teilhard Knight" wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 in a laptop which I just recently > bought. Problem is that the installation CD wouldn't boot. I have > tried burning several brands of disks and trying them in other > computers and I am now sure is not the media. I even disabled > hyperthreading in the BIOS and nothing. Anyone can offer some advise > about what to do? > > Teilhard. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, If you have set up your BIOS settings properly (to boot from a CD, and then from the disk), and it does not boot, maybe you just burned the ISO as a normal file in the CD. An ISO file is an image of the entire CD (it has a TOC, the bootable part, etc.), and to burn it there should be an option on the burning program (something containing the word "ISO", and a browser to select a file). Check this, if when you burn the cd and you read it you see only the ISO file, it is not right. If you see a lot of directories like 'boot', 'packages', it is fine, and it should boot. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:46:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9282716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:46:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B6F43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:46:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:46:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:46:09 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050314164609.GA1060@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <423508A8.30501@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:46:11 -0000 On 14 Mar Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > >> Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of > >> hte best things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? > Ghostscript supports the HP1100 directly. So there's no need to deal > with the other printer drivers, which should make it easy for you. > > Since you already installed apsfilter (which is unnecessary BTW) just > run the following: I run a hp1100 myself here _and_ use apsfilter. Wouldn't want it any other way. Apsfilter makes printing easy. No hussle about which filter to use for which data file. Everything just comes out of the hp1100 as I expect it to. No cups either. Hate that package. Just the plain old lpr stuff. Runs great. My home network all uses this printer. The other machines use OSX, FreeBSD, win98 and win-XP. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 16:53:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D77A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:53:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (mci-mail.nodes.net.ad-flow.com [66.48.68.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED6143D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([66.59.162.147]) (authenticated)j2EGptK23402 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:51:55 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:51:55 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel quinn To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:52:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503141152.55407.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: ipfw and nmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:53:17 -0000 i've been experimenting with ipfw since moving some of my machines from linux to freebsd and i've run across an oddity wrt nmap and freebsd firewalls. it doesn't seem to work and the activity isn't logged either. the firewall is working though. ssh goes through, while other ports are being blocked (and logged). i've confirmed this with telnet. but nmap still comes up empty. i'd like to be able to do a proper portscan, but is this a feature with ipfw or a lack of feature in nmap? for the purposes of this test, i've used a variation on the firewall supplied in the freebsd handbook: www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html -- ...he who in dealing with the empire loves his subjects as one should love one's body is the best person to whom one can commit the empire. - lau tzu, "tao te ching: chapter xiii" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:03:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9B216A4CF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFE443D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dot.sn1tch@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1763405wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:03:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LR1mhghQMPC337DmVBaTioJMJ8A4SBJjgfp/MAl6iWQVUGcMtH8by3RCi+I0zafVTc+9F6DNURAe0Ue3h/szRIjSzM9ktaNEsHvNIIm14F1TwrzZqYT4egiF/VTR1A6YzLyDQ+OLWyTKrFcwtsvXYxP3r+AVdfZi5ieXpWMosag= Received: by 10.54.84.17 with SMTP id h17mr673413wrb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.31.67 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:03:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:03:37 -0500 From: sn1tch To: daniel quinn In-Reply-To: <200503141152.55407.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503141152.55407.freebsd@danielquinn.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw and nmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sn1tch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:49 -0000 You could try using nmap with the -sA (ACK) scanning...this is good for mapping firewall rulesets to see what is being let in. You could also use -f (fragment) with -sS to send fragmented packets...this will show open ports unless most of the time too. But -sA is better since the firewall things its a legitimate request and not a port scan On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:52:54 -0500, daniel quinn wrote: > i've been experimenting with ipfw since moving some of my machines from linux > to freebsd and i've run across an oddity wrt nmap and freebsd firewalls. it > doesn't seem to work and the activity isn't logged either. > > the firewall is working though. ssh goes through, while other ports are being > blocked (and logged). i've confirmed this with telnet. but nmap still comes > up empty. i'd like to be able to do a proper portscan, but is this a feature > with ipfw or a lack of feature in nmap? > > for the purposes of this test, i've used a variation on the firewall supplied > in the freebsd handbook: > > www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html > > -- > ...he who in dealing with the empire loves his subjects as one should love > one's body is the best person to whom one can commit the empire. > - lau tzu, "tao te ching: chapter xiii" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- You've officially been Gmailed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:20:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 7AF0416A4CF; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:20:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:20:53 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050314172053.GA91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <59c3bcd39070fa5981512857c33932c4@rzweb.com> <20050311062131.GD891@euclid.eldenf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050311062131.GD891@euclid.eldenf.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Getting current ports and packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:20:53 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 10:21:31PM -0800, Elden Fenison wrote: > * abu khaled [03/08/2005 05:58]: > > > I have run cvsups, which I believe gets me the latest ports, is > > > there an equivalent for packages? I was under the impression that > > > they always got the latest? > > > > Yes but only what is suitable for your current FreeBSD system is > > always installed when you install a port or add package. > > So, I was wondering... does cvsuping your ports effect what's available > to pkg_add then? No, only what version of FreeBSD you are running affects it (and you can override the defaults anyway, see the manpage). Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:26:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9D116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay2.poste.it (relay2.poste.it [62.241.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA6943D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from g.vizzini@giur.uniroma3.it) Received: from conan.uniroma3.it (192.168.144.137) by relay2.poste.it (7.2.052.3) (authenticated as odorifer@uniroma3.it) id 4230389C0002C39A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:26:23 +0100 From: Gio11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:22:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503141822.33013.g.vizzini@giur.uniroma3.it> Subject: usb 2.0 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:26:25 -0000 Hello, I'm a 5.3 frebsd user Is there any plan to support stable - not beta- drivers ehci in 5.4 release? My usb disk goes a 1MB/s and this is my log: #### ehci0: mem 0xf8a000 00-0xf8a003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: wrong number of companions (4 != 3) ehci0: USB init failed err=13 device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 5 #### what can I do? -- Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic. - Giovanni - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:28:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3265E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C241143D3F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2EHKqw16442; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:20:52 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503141720.j2EHKqw16442@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc (Svein Halvor Halvorsen) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:20:52 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050314172547.Y81679@maren.thelosingend.net> from "Svein Halvor Halvorsen" at Mar 14, 2005 05:28:26 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: Jerry McAllister cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:58 -0000 > > > * Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] > > > [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to > > > the tape device be a good for a verify? > > > No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second > > time is different from the first time. > : > > Most places cannot afford to make file systems completely unavailable > > for periods of time long enough (several hours, up to a couple of days) > > to allow dump to be run twice without any changes being made to the > > file system. > > > Note the OP's use of the word "snapshot". I think he is right! Or if he > isn't; it has nothing to do with the filesystem beeing changed, but rather > something to do with the way the backup is written to tape. However, I do > think snapshots could be used for exactly this. But, if he is writing a snapshot, then why is he using dump? I think he was using the word snapshot to imply the dump file. But, of course, I could be wrong. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:29:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A1716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF8643D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2C13891E4; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:29:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:29:12 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: BSD Mail , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8be663db05031323535ff0f3b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <8be663db05031323524c5d7751@mail.gmail.com> <8be663db05031323535ff0f3b9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Postfix Chroot. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:29:14 -0000 --On Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:53:59 PM -0800 BSD Mail wrote: > > Everything running under a different group except "master" it is still > running as root. > How can I fix that ? > Did you read /usr/local/share/doc/postfix-*/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README > Also I need a way to verify that Postfix is actually running chrooted. Easy. Add a new user or edit another file that Postfix has to have access to and you will start getting error messages about the files being out of sync - you *did* put copies in the jail, right? Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:38:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 2E02E16A4CF; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:38:54 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: John DeStefano Message-ID: <20050314173854.GC91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050313171401.08B0D16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:38:54 -0000 On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:44:32PM -0500, John DeStefano wrote: > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html > > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > popping in.. > > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > information. > > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? Did you read the tuning(7) manpage, as instructed? Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:39:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461BD16A4D5 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93B843D3F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:39:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20050314173900m9100r75aoe>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:39:00 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:38:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503141138.59244.josh@tcbug.org> Subject: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE error creating jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:39:01 -0000 $uname -a FreeBSD twinmp.tcbug.org 5.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Feb 9 16:54:40 CST 2005 jpaetzel@twinmp.tcbug.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TWINMP i386 I am following the directions in man jail to set up a jail on my system: D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src mkdir -p $D make world DESTDIR=$D cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D mount_devfs devfs $D/dev cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel make world DESTDIR=$D fails with the following error: make: don't know how to make /storage1/jail/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop *** Error code 2 I've tried rm -rf /usr/obj and also rm -rf /usr/src -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:41:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 4BB7516A4CF; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:41:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:41:40 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Fafa Diliha Romanova Message-ID: <20050314174140.GD91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050312095532.C3A1F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050312095532.C3A1F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting rid of message: unknown: can't assign resources (port) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:41:40 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:55:32AM -0500, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > haye! > > i'm just kinda tired of seeing this in my dmesg. > can i make my kernel ignore it? If it really bothers you that much, comment out the printf that generates it in the kernel source. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:47:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 9529316A4CF; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:43 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050314174743.GG91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:43 -0000 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 04:12:35AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I# make index > Generating INDEX-5 - please wait.."/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line > 2818: warnin g: duplicate script for target "checksum" ignored > cfvers-0.4.6: "/usr/ports/databases/py-PySQLite" non-existent -- > dependency list incomplete > ===> sysutils/cfvers failed > *** Error code 1 > 1 error If you run 'make index' you should read the freebsd-ports mailing list, where reports of index build failure are automatically sent. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:47:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECE516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 163.com (smtp.163.com [202.108.44.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21ED743D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heccj@163.com) Received: from [192.168.123.104] (unknown [211.161.123.73]) by smtp1 (Coremail) with SMTP id HsC8zDrONUL5zU8B.1 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:47:43 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [211.161.123.73] Message-ID: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:49:26 +0800 From: heccj User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:47:51 -0000 Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet this problem! I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why?How to resovle it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 17:49:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 163.com (smtp.163.com [202.108.44.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8899143D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:49:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heccj@163.com) Received: from [192.168.123.104] (unknown [211.161.123.73]) by smtp2 (Coremail) with SMTP id GIBXmrfONUK5De0B.1 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:49:48 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [211.161.123.73] Message-ID: <4235CF25.5000708@163.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:51:33 +0800 From: heccj User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The options when you install a port! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:49:58 -0000 Hi! How could i know the options of a port?And Could i set some default options?I meet this problem when i setup a big port like gnome2,it needs a lot of time,and a lot of confirm dialog will pop out.If i know these options and set the values,i can setup these ports without interact! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 18:11:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 70DBC16A4CF; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:11:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:11:56 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: store@teknikalsoul.com Message-ID: <20050314181156.GL91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050312002753.E06C243D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050312002753.E06C243D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Requirements for FreeBSD CDROM and DVD Publishers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:11:56 -0000 On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 04:27:20PM +0000, store@teknikalsoul.com wrote: > Hello, > > I currently own a site that offers Debian and NetBSD CD-ROM sets for sale. I am > interested in becoming a FreeBSD CD-ROM publisher and offering a FreeBSD > 5.3-RELEASE CD-ROM set for the i386 architecture for sale on my site. Are there > any specific requirements I would need to fulfill in order to do this? If you want to resell the ISO images provided by freebsd.org on the ftp site I think there is a README file there that gives permission. If you want to resell the additional CD images sold by e.g. freebsdmall.com then you'd need to obtain permission from them, since they own the compilation copyright. If you want to construct your own additional CD images then you can do that any way you like. The only thing to be aware of is that some packages available on the ftp site may not be sold, according to the license terms provided by the original authors. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 18:39:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ECA16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:39:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E62643D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F55C12C; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:39:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1095.216.220.59.169.1110825577.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <4235CF25.5000708@163.com> References: <4235CF25.5000708@163.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:39:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "heccj" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The options when you install a port! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:39:07 -0000 > Hi! > How could i know the options of a port?And Could i set some default > options?I meet this problem when i setup a big port like gnome2,it needs > a lot of time,and a lot of confirm dialog will pop out.If i know these > options and set the values,i can setup these ports without interact! Read the port makefile. There is usually instructions at the top explaining the available options. These can be put into /etc/make.conf (I'm not sure of the syntax). For example, I recently built mplayer. At the top of /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer it says: # New ports collection makefile for: mplayer # Date created: 10 August 2001 nstalL# Whom: Thomas E. Zander # with lots of help from Vladimir Kushnir # $FreeBSD: ports/multimedia/mplayer/Makefile,v 1.111 2005/03/06 10:34:15 oliver Exp $ # # There are many knobs to tune mplayer towards your specific wishes # and preferences. # You can activate a knob by typing something like # "make -DKNOB" or "make KNOB=yes" instead of just "make" # It then goes on to explain what all the 'KNOB's are. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 18:42:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4E416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:42:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455C643D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8741BC12C; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:43:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "heccj" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:42:34 -0000 > Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet > this problem! > > I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i > can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i > use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup > extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup > extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating systems. Their binaries are not compatible. > How to resovle > it? If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences and make sure the settings are the same otherwise. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 18:46:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:46:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53910.mail.yahoo.com (web53910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2383143D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:46:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52533 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2005 18:46:06 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=5Tq47HeU7MYbDVHizpwxsKItbyrKmQmpo+ryfTaD3/gQ4OaPLk/ptgADSMfoFEjr+F/WBoK651oJsJ7CGXNr2fxheihrUX9qEZB0Mq57Jg0iNcHRMEqniwMTd3gNA2Wos5d+fdN2Ng6MKqqD/cnuG8++U8kaAmXES/qTBpmheSI= ; Message-ID: <20050314184606.52530.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.157.0.215] by web53910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:46:06 PST Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:46:06 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: josh@tcbug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE error creating jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:46:07 -0000 it was said: >I am following the directions in man jail to set up a jail on my >system: > >D=/here/is/the/jail >cd /usr/src >mkdir -p $D >make world DESTDIR=$D ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Try changing this line to "env DESTDIR=$D && make world" >cd etc >make distribution DESTDIR=$D >mount_devfs devfs $D/dev >cd $D >ln -sf dev/null kernel >make world DESTDIR=$D fails with the following error: > > >make: don't know how to make /storage1/jail/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop I think this is a bug, but because a simple workaround exists, maybe it will become a "training issue".... HTH, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:01:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:01:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D1043D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:01:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176C33C2826; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:01:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4235DF75.5040204@toldme.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:01:09 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ean Kingston References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: heccj cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:01:15 -0000 Ean Kingston wrote: >At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them >into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences and >make sure the settings are the same otherwise. > > I have been using Amazon's a9.com which has a browser bar for Firefox that facilitates storing bookmarks on a9.com. This way, I can do bookmarks on my FreeBSD Firefox, and pull them up on my Windows Firefox, or any computer if I visit their site. There are probably other "server side bookmarks" services out there. The a9 makes it a little nicer with the toolbar thingus, plus it wraps around Google's search engine, Amazon's products search engine, and Amazon.com will give you a modest discount for helping test out their wonky new feature. (The bookmark management is a little weird, because it is implemented as a web interface.) As far as duplicating profiles, I'm with Ean in figuring that trying to get the profiles to work on two utterly different platforms sounds like more trouble than it would likely be worth. I know that in the old days the Netscape folks were keen on a project to store metadata in an LDAP server ... perhaps the Mozilla foundation has some similar fetish, but you would be better off asking the Mozilla folks, who are all about cross-platform magic. -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:10:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ECD16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:10:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82FD43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:10:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAuxf-0004PS-Tm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:10:43 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:10:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1891.209.87.176.4.1110827450.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:10:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:10:51 -0000 Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: own ad0s3 brian:operator perm ad0s3 0660 Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are owned by the 'brian' user? Thanks in advance /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:14:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D7316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:14:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486BC43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:14:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAv1B-0005MI-Eg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:14:21 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:14:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1890.209.87.176.4.1110827667.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:14:27 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:14:28 -0000 Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: own ad0s3 brian:operator perm ad0s3 0660 Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are owned by the 'brian' user? Thanks in advance /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:16:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F7416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A3343D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7A63C2826 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:16:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4235E2F9.2070002@toldme.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:16:09 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: probe dmesg status of RAIDs -- twe and amr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:11 -0000 Hello, I have a bunch of FreeBSD systems, many with hardware RAIDs. The problem is, I have no easy way of checking to see that they are okay. I tried once to get the 3ware binary to work with the 3ware kernel module to get to work with the 3ware firmware update that I had to ... ARGHH! It was awful. On the other hand, in /var/run/dmesg : twed0: on twe0 twed0: 114472MB (234439600 sectors) twe0: command interrupt Or, on another system: amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 140012MB (286744576 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) I know from experience that the "Normal" on the twed0 means "nothing broken" and I like to think the "optimal" on the amrd0 means "RAID5 is doing fine." This is enough information for me . . . if a RAID is in a failure state, I can live with gracefully failing a server, if need be, and booting in to the BIOS to get the real information. The problem is, I only get these messages when I boot . . . and I don't boot very often, of course. I have tried poking around sysctl, atacontrol, camcontrol . . . all to see how I might probe out these messages on a regular basis, but I can not figure it out. Can someone give me a tip on how to pull up bits of dmesg output while the system is running? Or if someone has better advice on checking up on the status of various flavors of RAID . . . Thanks in Advance, -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:16:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D90F16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88BA43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAv2o-0005jo-Lb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:02 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1891.209.87.176.4.1110827769.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:17 -0000 Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: own ad0s3 brian:operator perm ad0s3 0660 Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are owned by the 'brian' user? Thanks in advance /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:16:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5003E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2516743D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAv2y-0005mE-I9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:12 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1890.209.87.176.4.1110827779.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:16:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:16:22 -0000 Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: own ad0s3 brian:operator perm ad0s3 0660 Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are owned by the 'brian' user? Thanks in advance /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:18:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008CA16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD3C43D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:18:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni.brinckman@scarlet.be) Received: from (ip-213-49-122-13.dsl.scarlet.be [213.49.122.13]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id j2EJI1C22569; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:18:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4235E340.8040404@scarlet.be> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:17:20 +0100 From: beni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Kelley References: <20050313171401.893BD16A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> <42352DD9.9060600@kelleycows.com> In-Reply-To: <42352DD9.9060600@kelleycows.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thunderbird and local mail ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:18:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Kelley wrote: | You Wrote: | | |> Hi, |> |> System: 5.3-REL-p5 |> |> I would like to get my local mail (from /var/mail/) in my |> Thunderbird (v1.0 - 20050310) mailbox. |> |> I found |> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-December/027652.html |> which is talking about version 0.3... But I get the same message |> as described after having created a movemail mailbox : "unable to |> create .lock file". I've tried to set up a movemail for |> the user and one for Root, but get the same message back. |> |> So, how do I get those local mails transferred into my mailbox ? |> |> Beni. |> | | Hi, | | The popup message on Thunderbird tells you (somewhat cryptically) | what you need to do. I believe it says something along the lines | of: | | --- Unable to create .lock file. For movemail to work, it is | necessary to create lock files in the mail spool directory. On many | systems, this is best accomplished by making the spool directory | be mode 01777. --- | | The spool directory is /var/mail, so what I did was (as root), cd | to /var, then 'chmod 1777 mail'. Please note that this machine is | behind a firewall, and provides no services to the internet, so I'm | not very concerned about any security holes doing this may open | up. | | I'm using Tbird 1.0, and I haven't touched my sendmail | configuration from the "factory defaults". I redirected (via | /etc/mail/aliases) the "root" mail to the normal user that runs X. | | Christopher | Yep, that did it. Thanks a lot ! Beni. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCNeNA98oeEzEDrEcRAqVAAJ4vYXLjrRdvCEo4hI9Q81vLRCMDFgCgjp7N 8jlIDdnHEyWnpaTh8/h1DIM= =vwbl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:22:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4360116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:22:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC13A43D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:22:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 8627 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 19:22:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Mar 2005 19:22:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A860284; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: brianjohn@fusemail.com References: <1891.209.87.176.4.1110827450.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Mar 2005 14:22:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1891.209.87.176.4.1110827450.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Message-ID: <44u0neghhf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:22:38 -0000 "Brian John" writes: > Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. > For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by > root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this > partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: > own ad0s3 brian:operator > perm ad0s3 0660 > > Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are > owned by the 'brian' user? There are several approaches described in the manual for mount_msdosfs(8). Changing the permissions on the mount point would probably be the easiest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:23:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AEB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sb.santaba.com (sb.santaba.com [207.154.84.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FD843D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:23:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from behl@santaba.com) Received: from [192.168.3.100] (unknown [205.180.85.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sb.santaba.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8184A28433 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:23:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4235E50E.4000506@santaba.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:25:02 -0800 From: Jeff Behl User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IPMI doesn't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:23:44 -0000 on a 5.3 amd64 system. anyone have any luck or know anything about this? i can query variables right up until the point where the kernel loads, then nothing. ibm is saying this can be caused by the actual net driver (the Baseboard Management Controller (BMC) shares the network interface); we're using a Broadcom BCM5704C Dual gig adapter: bge0: mem 0xfe000000-0xfe00ffff,0xfe010000-0xfe01ffff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2 anyone have any idea why this may be the case? unfortunately for me and others, the inability to remotely manage boxes (console/power cycle/detect drive failures/etc) via will be a deal breaker in our push for FBSD in our fleet (couple hundred) of dual proc amd64 IBM e325 servers. SuSe here we come (unwillingly)... thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:44:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77EB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:44:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBD543D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:44:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAvU6-0004u8-J4; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:44:14 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:44:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3018.209.87.176.4.1110829461.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:44:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "Lowell Gilbert" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Re: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:44:23 -0000 > "Brian John" writes: > > > Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with Windows. > > For one reason or another everything on this partition is owned by > > root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files on this > > partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: > > own ad0s3 brian:operator > > perm ad0s3 0660 > > > > Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this partition are > > owned by the 'brian' user? > > There are several approaches described in the manual for mount_msdosfs(8). > > Changing the permissions on the mount point would probably be the easiest. > __ When I try to change the permissions on the mount point this is what happens: # chown brian:operator /shared chown: /shared: Invalid argument This is the same thing that happens when I try to change permissions on any files on the partition. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 19:45:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD3B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:45:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5E243D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:45:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DAvUu-000Dm5-JT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:45:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:45:04 -0500 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050314194504.GA52623@sockeye.firmanix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: need help getting around kern/70401 so I can load ipl.ko X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:45:02 -0000 I have not been able to get ipfilter working on a system and it is because I don't have INET6 in my custom kernel, and therefore the system cannot load the ipl.ko module. Here is the issue: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70401 Can someone help me understand this following fix? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fix: Tweak around USE_INET6 option in /sys/contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_compat.h to cover the case when there is no INET6 in the kernel and ipfilter is loaded as KLD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or should I just go back and compile the GENERIC kernel? There is no problem running the GENERIC kernel from what I can tell. This is a production system, so compiling the kernel makes me nervous. Would I simply do this?: # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC then reboot and that is all right? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 20:11:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B6E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:11:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D23943D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:11:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.174.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02CA3D8BF7 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:16:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4235EFB6.9010405@celeritystorm.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:10:30 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:11:03 -0000 You shouldn't use FreeBSD then, it is full of evil demons that will take over your system on the first chance they get.. :) Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >hello > >i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > >1. it is *VERY* unprofessional >2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world >3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > they laugh and go: > > "is THAT your supersystem? blah" > >somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? >i don't want anything to do with it. > >thanks, >-- fafa > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 20:19:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A78116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:19:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792FA43D53 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:19:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2EKKtPo079517; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:20:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost)j2EKKtjU079514; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:20:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) X-Authentication-Warning: april.chuckr.org: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:20:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Eric In-Reply-To: <4235ADFE.2050400@bsdunix.us> Message-ID: <20050314151838.K74062@april.chuckr.org> References: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> <20050313215820.B74062@april.chuckr.org> <4235ADFE.2050400@bsdunix.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:19:16 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Eric wrote: > I removed above this to save some bandwidth, as bandwidth is not free > every where in the world :) > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > >>I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: > >> > >> Identifier "Mouse1" > >> Driver "mouse" > >> Option "Protocol" "Auto" > >> Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" > >> > >> > > > >I am running FreeBSD-6.0-current, but I bet it works for you like it works > >(just fine) for me. Try it, what have you got to lose? However, if it > >works, you owe us a usage report, Sirrah! > > > >Anyhow, FreeBSD is not terribly willing to share the mouse. When it > >boots, the stupid thing will start 'moused' processes on both mouses. > >Check this with: > > > >ps -ax | grep mouse > > > >if it's like I think it is, one of the lines that come back will report a > >device filename of ums0. You need this process dead, dead, dead. You > >*could*, I suppose, edit /etc/usbd.conf ... > > > >After you do that, the stuff you have above for Xorg isn't enough either, > >cause you left out the wheel. take those lines out and replace them with > > > >Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" > > Option "Buttons" "5" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > >EndSection > > > >Don't forget, at the top: > > > >Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "X.org Configured" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > >EndSection > > > > > >Try this, tell me how it works. > > > > > > > Chuck, > Setting my mouse driver to "ums0", will make X crash before loading. > My box never reported the ums0 device/the usb mouse. The usbd is > running. There is no moused processes running on this box, as it is > disabled in /etc/rc.conf. I get the scroll wheel to work as a middle > button, but you are right, the scroll feature does not work. Just 1 thing I need to confirm: did you kill the moused process BEFORE starting X? Because if you didn't, that's exactly what happens to me. I need to kill the moused process that is tying up ums0, then I can start up X. > > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > Setting those two options does not enable the scroll wheel. I think that > is due to the generic PS/2 driver reported in dmesg. Having a working > scroll wheel was never a issue for me :) Also note, I never tried > FreeBSD 6.x . > No, let's fix the mouse first, then we worry about the mouse wheel. > I am not sure if the following info matters or not: > > This is included as it may give you some hints for fixing the wheel > feature. This mouse config was a combination of some google hints that > led me to look at, 'man psm', 'man device.hints', and my experience > with Freebsd 4.x. FreeBSD 4.x taught me that using /dev/bpsm0 in > the X config would work, with this mouse and this kvm. I didn't try > setting up the moused in /etc/rc.conf with FreeBSD 5.x. In FreeBSD 4.x > adding the bpsm0 config to /etc/rc.conf just lead to error messages > getting reported to my shells every so often. > > Here is some additional info: > > > %ls /dev > acd0 ata fido psm0 ttyv3 > acpi atkbd0 geom.ctl ptyp0 ttyv4 > ad0 audio0.0 io ptyp1 ttyv5 > ad0s1 audio0.1 kbd0 ptyp2 ttyv6 > ad0s10 bpf0 klog ptyp3 ttyv7 > ad0s1a bpsm0 kmem random ttyv8 > ad0s1b console log sndstat ttyv9 > ad0s1c consolectl lpt0 stderr ttyva > ad0s1d ctty lpt0.ctl stdin ttyvb > ad0s1e cuaa0 mdctl stdout ttyvc > ad0s1f cuaia0 mem sysmouse ttyvd > ad0s2 cuala0 mixer0 ttyd0 ttyve > ad0s3 devctl net ttyid0 ttyvf > ad0s4 devstat net1 ttyld0 urandom > ad0s5 dsp0.0 net2 ttyp0 usb > ad0s6 dsp0.1 net3 ttyp1 usb0 > ad0s7 dspW0.0 network ttyp2 usb1 > ad0s8 dspW0.1 nfs4 ttyp3 usb2 > ad0s9 dspr0.1 null ttyv0 xpt0 > agpgart fd pci ttyv1 zero > apm fd0 ppi0 ttyv2 > %cat /etc/rc.conf > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 > # Created: Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > hostname="demon-spawn.bsdunix.us" > ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" > linux_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > moused_type="auto" > moused_enable="NO" > % > %ps auxw | grep usbd > root 362 0.0 0.2 1240 780 ?? Ss 5:51AM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/usbd > eric 871 0.0 0.1 348 232 p3 R+ 7:38AM 0:00.00 grep usbd > > %ps auxw | grep mouse > eric 1240 0.0 0.5 2276 1760 p1 RV 9:18AM 0:00.00 grep mouse > (csh) > > this seems like a waste of bandwidth but... > > %dmesg > Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Mar 13 08:53:16 CST 2005 > root@demon-spawn.bsdunix.us:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM > ACPI APIC Table: > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz (2790.96-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > real memory = 394199040 (375 MB) > avail memory = 376037376 (358 MB) > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > npx0: [FAST] > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem > 0xdff80000-0xdfffffff,0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 > agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory > agp0: aperture size is 128M > uhci0: port 0xe400-0xe41f > irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci1: port 0xe800-0xe81f > irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci2: port 0xec00-0xec1f > irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb2: on uhci2 > usb2: USB revision 1.0 > uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) > pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci3: on pcib1 > pci3: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) > rl0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem > 0xdfdfbf00-0xdfdfbfff irq 17 at device 10.0 on pci3 > miibus0: on rl0 > rlphy0: on miibus0 > rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:6a:66:64:b3 > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port > 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 > ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 > ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 > pcm0: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f,0xe000-0xe0ff mem > 0xdff7b900-0xdff7b9ff,0xdff7ba00-0xdff7bbff irq 17 at device 31.5 on pci0 > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > pcm0: > fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 > drq 2 on acpi0 > fdc0: [FAST] > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq > 3 on acpi0 > ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold > ppbus0: on ppc0 > plip0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2790956669 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec > acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% > ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master > UDMA100 > acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > % > > I hope all the above answered your questions Chuck and maybe gives you > and others some more info :) > YMMV, > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, Signa Phi Nothing). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 20:24:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9950316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:24:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B35443D39 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAw7O-0005aJ-MS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:50 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1169.209.87.176.4.1110831897.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: bad CRC in rar file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:24:59 -0000 Hello, I have a collection of rar files that all hold together one .iso file. One of the rar files has a bad CRC so rar fails to extract the ISO image. Does anyone know if there is a different application that can extract this image even though there are crc errors? I looked at the rar manpage and it didn't seem like rar could do it. Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 20:26:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F9A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0413743D46 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from canth ([10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2EKRJI4031020; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:27:20 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-Id: <200503142027.j2EKRJI4031020@unsane.co.uk> From: "Vince" To: "'Fafa Diliha Romanova'" , Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <20050313201121.D5EE14BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Thread-Index: AcUoCPjc+3AMpSz9R4q4qcx3m8dkjgAyeNJA Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:57 -0000 Since you are using a gif interface I assume you use a tunnel for your ipv6 connection. Here is the relevant parts of my rc.conf which works (I use a H.E. ipv6 tunnel (http://tunnelbroker.net) but any gif tunnel should be similar) gif_interfaces="gif0" # create the gif gifconfig_gif0="62.140.220.90 64.71.128.83" # setup the ipv4 endpoints of the tunnel ipv6_enable="YES" # Set to YES to set up for IPv6. ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ipv6_network_interfaces="gif0 fxp0" # List of network interfaces (or "auto"). ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120" # Set to IPv6 default gateway ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::121 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 prefixlen 128" #setup ipv6 tunnel ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0="2001:470:1F01:244::1 prefixlen 64" #set fxp0 ipv6 address rtadvd_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable an IPv6 router rtadvd_interfaces="fxp1 fxp0 wi0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. Some lines may wrap. Vince > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Fafa Diliha Romanova > Sent: 13 March 2005 20:11 > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > > Hey! > > I am trying to add my entire IPv6 setup into rc.conf. > But it seems it won't automagically create gif0, nor will it > add the default route. This is my rc.conf: > > # *** IPv6 configuration > # > ipv6_enable="YES" > ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > ipv6_network_interfaces="gif0" > ipv6_defaultrouter="fe80::%gif0" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet 213.183.143.59 213.121.24.85" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::1 prefixlen 64" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::2 prefixlen 64" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::3 prefixlen 64" > ipv6_firewall_enable="YES" > ipv6_firewall_type="open" > rtadvd_enable="YES" > rtadvd_interfaces="gif0" > > Is anybody able to tell what I lack? > I certainly cannot ping6 6bone.net after reboot. > > Thanks! > > All the best, > -- Fafa > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 20:29:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A97C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:29:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FCE743D39 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 42633 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 20:29:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 20:29:50 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:30:33 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: brianjohn@fusemail.com Message-ID: <20050314173033.6c7780a2@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <3018.209.87.176.4.1110829461.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> References: <3018.209.87.176.4.1110829461.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permissions on partition? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:29:52 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:44:21 -0600 (CST) "Brian John" wrote: > > "Brian John" writes: > > > > > Hello, I have a FAT partition on ad0s3 that I am sharing with > > > Windows. For one reason or another everything on this partition is > > > owned by root:wheel. I can't change the permissions to any files > > > on this partition. This is what I have in devfs.conf: > > > own ad0s3 brian:operator > > > perm ad0s3 0660 > > > > > > Is this correct? How can I make it so that files on this > > > partition are owned by the 'brian' user? > > > > There are several approaches described in the manual for > > mount_msdosfs(8). > > > > Changing the permissions on the mount point would probably be the > > easiest.__ > When I try to change the permissions on the mount point this is what > happens:# chown brian:operator /shared > chown: /shared: Invalid argument > > This is the same thing that happens when I try to change permissions > on any files on the partition. Am I doing something wrong? > > Thanks > > /Brian > Hello, Have you tried changing the permissions of the directory when the MS-DOS filesystem is not mounted, and after that mount it? Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 21:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CFC16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C90443D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:06:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 18176 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2005 21:06:06 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 21:06:06 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id F31F262F6; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:06:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:06:05 -0600 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050314210605.GB31002@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <1169.209.87.176.4.1110831897.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1169.209.87.176.4.1110831897.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: bad CRC in rar file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:06:08 -0000 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:24:57PM -0600, Brian John wrote: > Hello, I have a collection of rar files that all hold together one .iso > file. One of the rar files has a bad CRC so rar fails to extract the ISO > image. Does anyone know if there is a different application that can > extract this image even though there are crc errors? I looked at the rar > manpage and it didn't seem like rar could do it. The unrar utility in ports says the "kb" command line switch will "keep broken". Remember mounting a bad ISO image may crash your computer. Generally one uses par files to validate and repair rar files before reassembling the original image. To generate par files for this purpose one has to start with a good set of rar files. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 21:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13C116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:13:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968D143D2D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DAws3-0007jt-Cn; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:13:03 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:13:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4534.209.87.176.4.1110834790.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:13:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "David Kelly" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Re: bad CRC in rar file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:13:13 -0000 > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:24:57PM -0600, Brian John wrote: > > Hello, I have a collection of rar files that all hold together one .iso > > file. One of the rar files has a bad CRC so rar fails to extract the ISO > > image. Does anyone know if there is a different application that can > > extract this image even though there are crc errors? I looked at the rar > > manpage and it didn't seem like rar could do it. > > The unrar utility in ports says the "kb" command line switch will "keep > broken". Remember mounting a bad ISO image may crash your computer. > > Generally one uses par files to validate and repair rar files before > reassembling the original image. To generate par files for this purpose > one has to start with a good set of rar files. > par files? I've never heard of those. What is the purpose of par files if you already have a good set of rar files? Is the idea that the same person that distributes the original rar files will also distribute par files with them? Is there anything that can 'patch' a bad ISO fail so that it is at least mountable? Thanks for the help /Brian > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 21:15:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A5B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-101-monday.nerim.net [62.4.16.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AE143D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bettan@nerim.net) Received: from frederic (linux-win.org [62.212.96.206]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 768AF42DD5 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:15:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00b101c528da$ea82cf30$0401a8c0@frederic> From: "cell" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:15:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0510-1, 11/03/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Boot problem with freebsd 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:18 -0000 hello , i have problem when i boot with freebsd 5.3 since i have had a = power cut .The message of the error is :=20 error 16 Iba 191 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: error 16 Iba 191 No /kernel I don't know if the hard disk is endommaged but i don't think.How do for = boot in freebsd ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 21:30:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCD543D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2ELUMGE022808; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost)j2ELUMS4022807; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:30:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:30:22 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20050314213021.GA21470@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20050311172121.GB74913@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <423313BC.8090000@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423313BC.8090000@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up a danish locale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:30:23 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 05:07:24PM +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > For X I have the following in my XF86Config: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > Option "XkbLayout" "dk" > Erik, Thanks for the pointer. The above partially solved out problem. My colleague would like to use the US keyboard layout and switch to a Danish layout when he's interacting with someone back home. Do you know if this is possible with xmodmap? I'm hoping that I can set up some shell aliases that do setenv do_danish "xmodmap danish.keys" setenv do_english "xmodmap english.keys" -- Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 21:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98FC16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:54:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4279643D58 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freeknossin@tiscali.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB94801139D; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:54:57 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:54:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050313115303.2a1f92b2@ale.varnet.bsd> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcUn3EQsfpBOOmFjQwaA76ZEFRU7/QBAmqxQ Message-Id: <20050314215457.7FB94801139D@smtp-out1.tiscali.nl> cc: 'Alejandro Pulver' cc: 'Jerry McAllister' Subject: RE: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:54:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Alejandro Pulver [mailto:alejandro@varnet.biz] > Sent: zondag 13 maart 2005 15:53 > To: Freek Nossin > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 'Jerry McAllister' > Subject: Re: format slice > > Hello, > > Sorry I did not noticed it before, but your first slice must be of type > 165 (or 0xa5 in hex), that is the type of FreeBSD slices. > > > > The data for partition 1 is: > > > sysid 0 (0000),(unused) > > > start 63, size 20820177 (10166 Meg), flag 0 > > > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > > > end: cyl 174/ head 15/ sector 63 > > > The data for partition 2 is: > > > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > > start 20820240, size 19201392 (9375 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; > > > end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 > > It appeares as "unused". So try changing the type. > > Best Regards, > Ale Finally it worked! Thanks for helping me (but if I may? Still one question left... ). The slice was indeed unused. When I tried sysinstall just after the reboot, and again it didn't worked I falsely assumed doing it from the command prompt would also be of no use. I was wrong, following your advice, starting fdisk (this time with -i, instead of -u, just to figure out if there was any difference, still don't know that yet though ;-) ). And changing the type created a freebsd slice. Then I used bsdlabel and there it was! /dev/ad0s1a was in my list of devices. There is one little thing that worries me. On someone's advice I installed testdisk (sysutils/testdisk). This tool tests your disk (duh! I mean slices and partitions, so actually my disklayout). Disk /dev/ad0 - CHS 39704 16 63 - 19541 MB Check current partition structure Partition Start End Size in sectors 1 P FreeBSD 0 1 1 20654 15 63 20820177 2 * FreeBSD 20655 0 1 39703 15 63 19201392 Bad starting head The "bad starting head" warning worries me. But with these tools you never know if the tool is correct, or indeed my disklayout. If I didn't just wrote my "Bios Partition table" a couple of times, I wouldn't have worried at all, but now I did, it *might* be possible that I actually did something wrong. My fdisk output is as follows (These numbers come even visit me in my dreams these days... ;-) ): bash-2.05b$ sudo fdisk ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=39704 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=39704 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 20820177 (10166 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 174/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 20820240, size 19201392 (9375 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: Does anybody see a "bad starting head"??? Thanks again for helping me so far (Alejandro, and Jerry) Freek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5E016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F5F43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.147] [83.226.138.147]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP <20050314220045.HLFG4482.mxfep02.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:00:45 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B68F17B920; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:07:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:07:22 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <20050314220720.GA38926@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> References: <42331009.6050804@netfence.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42331009.6050804@netfence.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror rebuilds on every reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:00:47 -0000 > As per subject: I have a 5.3 box with two SATA drives and I using > gmirror to achieve RAID 1. > The problem is it started rebuilding the array *on every boot*. ... > I cannot think of any reason this might happen, but I'd appreciate any > hint to avoid that. First thing I'd check is the shutdown sequence. I dunno if this is machine you're physically in front of, but if you are, look for kernel output at the end of the shutdown sequence. The fact that it is rebuilding is usually indicative of an unclean shutdown. If it happens all the time it might be that there is some problem preventing buffers from being flushed properly and/or the gmirror to shutdown correctly. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:10:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EBD16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:10:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 282C243D55 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 23159 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2005 22:10:35 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp6.knology.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 22:10:35 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id B855262F6; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:10:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:10:34 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Brian John Message-ID: <20050314221034.GA31388@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <4534.209.87.176.4.1110834790.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4534.209.87.176.4.1110834790.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: bad CRC in rar file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:10:36 -0000 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:13:10PM -0600, Brian John wrote: > > > > Generally one uses par files to validate and repair rar files before > > reassembling the original image. To generate par files for this > > purpose one has to start with a good set of rar files. > > > par files? I've never heard of those. What is the purpose of par > files if you already have a good set of rar files? Is the idea that > the same person that distributes the original rar files will also > distribute par files with them? Yes. "Par" as in parity. The par files would contain redundant information which is intended to be used to verify/repair broken file(s) (not necessarily rar files). Essentially the same as Forward Error Correction. If you have incomplete or damaged files then you need par files to repair. Can not create par files out of bad files. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:15:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042C816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:15:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4143D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:15:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1562917wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:15:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=V9WCBhMeT3UdzYHAHRdsecr8liaNNUMSQTeVZ1KeOE+Lno1sdEn/QpfswZeL1kpcuRLowfFVhFb8FdoflszsO5z8VLvwgFEdK1vZ9WfJTJXsul7P6DsTcI5FK46tPDin3DzgPMIjIwJdmqQmxMplFXK3E2k1X8cFZHtniv9zXkc= Received: by 10.38.9.21 with SMTP id 21mr1568553rni; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:34:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:34:17 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: dd on samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:15:35 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:27:19 +0000, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > dd and dump won't work (they won't put the data on a directory). Maybe I solved it, by making # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/mnt/some_file.dd bs=2m But how is goint to be to restore the whole filesystem? Thanks! -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E2E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC59D43D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2005031422160901400plpi9e>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:16:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c528e3$73ec7250$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Jeff Behl" , References: <4235E50E.4000506@santaba.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:16:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: IPMI doesn't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:16:11 -0000 How are you attempting to manage the server.. via a command line or terminal emulation software directly to the BMC? What amangement software ships with the IBM? Once the kernel loads, you need to perform SOL (serial redirection over LAN), or use management software the speaks directly with the BMC.. Just curious a little bit more about your setup T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Behl" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: IPMI doesn't work... > on a 5.3 amd64 system. anyone have any luck or know anything about this? > i can query variables right up until the point where the kernel loads, > then nothing. ibm is saying this can be caused by the actual net driver > (the Baseboard Management Controller (BMC) shares the network interface); > we're using a Broadcom BCM5704C Dual gig adapter: > > bge0: mem > 0xfe000000-0xfe00ffff,0xfe010000-0xfe01ffff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci2 > > anyone have any idea why this may be the case? unfortunately for me and > others, the inability to remotely manage boxes (console/power cycle/detect > drive failures/etc) via will be a deal breaker in our push for FBSD in our > fleet (couple hundred) of dual proc amd64 IBM e325 servers. SuSe here we > come (unwillingly)... > > thx > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:23:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC31616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 285AB43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 45293 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 22:23:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 22:23:21 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:24:05 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Freek Nossin" Message-ID: <20050314192405.1613c3f1@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050314215457.7FB94801139D@smtp-out1.tiscali.nl> References: <20050313115303.2a1f92b2@ale.varnet.bsd> <20050314215457.7FB94801139D@smtp-out1.tiscali.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Jerry McAllister' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: format slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:23:23 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:54:57 +0100 "Freek Nossin" wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alejandro Pulver [mailto:alejandro@varnet.biz] > > Sent: zondag 13 maart 2005 15:53 > > To: Freek Nossin > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; 'Jerry McAllister' > > Subject: Re: format slice > > > > Hello, > > > > Sorry I did not noticed it before, but your first slice must be of > > type 165 (or 0xa5 in hex), that is the type of FreeBSD slices. > > > > > > The data for partition 1 is: > > > > sysid 0 (0000),(unused) > > > > start 63, size 20820177 (10166 Meg), flag 0 > > > > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > > > > end: cyl 174/ head 15/ sector 63 > > > > The data for partition 2 is: > > > > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > > > start 20820240, size 19201392 (9375 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; > > > > end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 > > > > It appeares as "unused". So try changing the type. > > > > Best Regards, > > Ale > > Finally it worked! > > Thanks for helping me (but if I may? Still one question left... ). > > The slice was indeed unused. When I tried sysinstall just after the > reboot, and again it didn't worked I falsely assumed doing it from the > command prompt would also be of no use. I was wrong, following your > advice, starting fdisk (this time with -i, instead of -u, just to > figure out if there was any difference, still don't know that yet > though ;-) ). And changing the type created a freebsd slice. Then I > used bsdlabel and there it was! /dev/ad0s1a was in my list of devices. > > > There is one little thing that worries me. On someone's advice I > installed testdisk (sysutils/testdisk). This tool tests your disk > (duh! I mean slices and partitions, so actually my disklayout). > > Disk /dev/ad0 - CHS 39704 16 63 - 19541 MB > Check current partition structure > Partition Start End Size in sectors > 1 P FreeBSD 0 1 1 20654 15 63 20820177 > 2 * FreeBSD 20655 0 1 39703 15 63 19201392 > > Bad starting head > > > The "bad starting head" warning worries me. But with these tools you > never know if the tool is correct, or indeed my disklayout. If I > didn't just wrote my "Bios Partition table" a couple of times, I > wouldn't have worried at all, but now I did, it *might* be possible > that I actually did something wrong. My fdisk output is as follows > (These numbers come even visit me in my dreams these days... ;-) ): > > bash-2.05b$ sudo fdisk > ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=39704 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=39704 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 20820177 (10166 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 174/ head 15/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 20820240, size 19201392 (9375 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; > end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > Does anybody see a "bad starting head"??? > > Thanks again for helping me so far (Alejandro, and Jerry) > > Freek > Hello, You are welcome. Mine is better :) Disk /dev/ad0 - CHS 77504 16 63 - 38146 MB Disk /dev/ad2 - CHS 79656 16 63 - 39205 MB Disk /dev/ad0 - CHS 77504 16 63 - 38146 MB 1 * FAT32 LBA 0 1 1 36863 6 63 37158282 Bad ending head 2 E extended LBA 36863 7 1 77488 1 63 40949685 Bad ending head Disk /dev/ad2 - CHS 79656 16 63 - 39205 MB 1 P Linux 0 1 1 20304 5 63 20466747 Bad ending head 4 * FreeBSD 40624 11 1 79225 4 63 38909430 Bad ending head TestDisk exited normally. I do not know what is that, but I think it is just a warning. It has to do with low level disk parameters (cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) I do not know. There is information about that (not specifically this topic but there is a *lot* of information about hard-disks and how do they operate) in http://www.pcguide.com/topic.html (section hard-drives) but I did not have problems with my slices/filesystems/data. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FDB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:24:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A46643D4C for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:24:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35] (may be forged)) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2EMOVoR007699 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2EMOP1N001015 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2EMOPB4001014 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:24:25 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050314222425.GA640@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: rc.subr startup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:24:34 -0000 Hello, I'm running 5.3-STABLE and I want to write a startup script for ports/sysutils/mcron. The twis is, I want an mcron process for each user I specify in an external file. For example... /usr/local/etc/mcron.conf: $usernames="user1 user2 user3" /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mcron.sh #!/bin/sh # $Id$ # PROVIDE: mcron # REQUIRE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: FreeBSD shutdown # . /etc/rc.subr name="mcron" prefix=/usr/local command=${prefix}/bin/${name} mcron_enable=${mcron_enable:-"NO"} mcron_flags=${mcron_flags-"-d"} # Load user names from conf file # . ${prefix}/etc/${name}.conf rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name for user in ${usernames}; do mcron_user=${user} run_rc_command "$1" done This does not work because run_rc_command checks to see if the process is already running before attempting to launch another instance. I've read rc.subr(8) and it's not apparent if I can use the rc.subr tools in this scenario. Perhaps this is something best accomplished in /etc/rc.local? Any and all suggestions welcome. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:25:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E5116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:25:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82E43D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:25:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org ([172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2ELuGoR007630 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:56:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2ELuGqE089838 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:56:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2ELuGQm089837 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:56:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:56:16 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050314215615.GM65944@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: rc.subr startup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:25:06 -0000 Hello, I'm running 5.3-STABLE and I want to write a startup script for ports/sysutils/mcron. The twis is, I want an mcron process for each user I specify in an external file. For example... /usr/local/etc/mcron.conf: $usernames="user1 user2 user3" /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mcron.sh #!/bin/sh # $Id$ # PROVIDE: mcron # REQUIRE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: FreeBSD shutdown # . /etc/rc.subr name="mcron" prefix=/usr/local command=${prefix}/bin/${name} mcron_enable=${mcron_enable:-"NO"} mcron_flags=${mcron_flags-"-d"} # Load user names from conf file # . ${prefix}/etc/${name}.conf rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name for user in ${usernames}; do mcron_user=${user} run_rc_command "$1" done This does not work because run_rc_command checks to see if the process is already running before attempting to launch another instance. I've read rc.subr(8) and it's not apparent if I can use the rc.subr tools in this scenario. Perhaps this is something best accomplished in /etc/rc.local? Any and all suggestions welcome. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A20516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f34.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A90143D2F for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:28:49 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 208.186.54.187 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.54.187] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] X-Sender: missive@hotmail.com From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:58:49 +0430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2005 22:28:49.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[31D98D10:01C528E5] Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:28:50 -0000 >I think there is no big difference between just running portupgrade vs >portmanager. I would say portmanager is better and faster because you >don't need to baby sit, it is really automagical, and there is no >messing with an index. I keep hearing great things about portmanager, but I have not been able to run it... when I try, I get: # portmanager -s ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_3 info: Creating inital data bases ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PMGRrVerifyContentsFile 0.2.9_3 error: could not open /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS system message: No such file or directory Assertion failed: (0), function PMGRrVerifyContentsFile, file PMGRrVerifyContentsFile.c,line 75. Abort (core dumped) What am I doing wrong? _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:38:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE3716A4E6 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:38:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0242D43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:38:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDD00E135JT3JV0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:38:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 224332CE75B; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:38:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:38:13 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Lee Harr" Message-id: <200503141438.14896.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:38:18 -0000 On Monday 14 March 2005 02:28 pm, Lee Harr wrote: > >I think there is no big difference between just running portupgrade > > vs portmanager. I would say portmanager is better and faster > > because you don't need to baby sit, it is really automagical, and > > there is no messing with an index. > > I keep hearing great things about portmanager, but I have > not been able to run it... when I try, I get: > > > # portmanager -s > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_3 info: Creating inital data bases > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- PMGRrVerifyContentsFile 0.2.9_3 error: could not open > /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS > system message: No such file or directory > Assertion failed: (0), function PMGRrVerifyContentsFile, file > PMGRrVerifyContentsFile.c,line 75. > Abort (core dumped) > > > What am I doing wrong? Does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 exist on your system? If so does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS exist? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:48:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5234216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BBD43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so700wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:48:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=n0W957Szv7FVWue0SRZFHOCn3CnFNvVymFDCOFb8CpyPD8UVYFrUM1nDeIzlXpP2di2BTZ6ECFWwAdqfxAmPS8qk8bIIjoikzSAOMq7NNeJdMYeIxPyorT+II6o/x5nQjgnSizNWQh8E/IMBQfCd5sE5kymE+94ZvV7mnITzRVw= Received: by 10.38.11.13 with SMTP id 13mr28415rnk; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:48:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:48:23 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050314173854.GC91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050313171401.08B0D16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> <20050314173854.GC91771@hub.freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:48:40 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:38:54 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 03:44:32PM -0500, John DeStefano wrote: > > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html > > > > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > > popping in.. > > > > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > > information. > > > > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? > > Did you read the tuning(7) manpage, as instructed? > > Kris > Hi Kris, Yes, and it contained quite a bit of informaiton. But it does not seem to contain this error directly, nor any procedural information on how to alleviate the error. I also read here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html "the error message is incorrect." and "This value is loader tunable only." And here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/17/2004/11/3/255979 "Unfortunately the man page for tunining doesn't seem to have anything specifically about increasing the value of kern.ipc.maxpipekva". I have the box working as a dumb terminal, and I'm no longer able to SSH in. Apparently, I can set the values of the kernel parameters I need to change either at boot time, or in loader.conf. I will try that, once I attach a montitor and keys and figure out how to do it, along with which parameters I need to change, and what the values should be for my system. By the way: thank you for responding to me, and copying the list, as I thought was the best-practice protocol for the list; it seems to have become a forgotten art. Thanks, ~John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 22:52:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB4216A4D6 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F27CA43D5A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 71212 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 22:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 22:52:29 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:53:12 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20050314195312.7f6149cb@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: dd on samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:30 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:34:17 +0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:27:19 +0000, Pietro Cerutti > wrote: > > dd and dump won't work (they won't put the data on a directory). > > Maybe I solved it, by making > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/mnt/some_file.dd bs=2m > > But how is goint to be to restore the whole filesystem? > > Thanks! > > > -- > Pietro "Piter" Cerutti > > > > Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal > > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" Hello, I have free space between two slices to I tried to do the same as you. When you have the image of a slice generated by 'dd', it contains its partitions and filesystems. First you may want to make that slice image (file) to appear in '/dev', so you can manipulate its partitions. This is done (in FreeBSD 5.X, if you use 4.X use'vnconfig', there are examples in the Handbook) like with a CD-ROM ISO image (see the Handbook->Storage): mdconfig -a -t vnode -f -u It will appear in '/dev' as 'md', with its partitions, like the following: md1a md1c [...] So you can mount them, dump them, etc., like with a slice (in fact, it is an image of a slice). When you end what you want to do with it, do (after unmounting the partitions): mdconfig -d -u Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 23:00:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB03816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:00:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E5B843D49 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:00:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 78247 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 23:00:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 23:00:56 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:01:39 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: "Teilhard Knight" Message-ID: <20050314200139.63b6f5bb@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <004f01c528e8$480f1980$210110ac@fortunato> References: <000e01c528af$0b1f84d0$210110ac@fortunato> <20050314132836.5d760969@ale.varnet.bsd> <004f01c528e8$480f1980$210110ac@fortunato> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: CD Doesn't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:00:57 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:50:54 -0600 "Teilhard Knight" wrote: > From: "Alejandro Pulver" > To: "Teilhard Knight" > Cc: "FreeBSD" > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: CD Doesn't boot > > > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:01:10 -0600 > > "Teilhard Knight" wrote: > > > >> I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 in a laptop which I just > >recently> bought. Problem is that the installation CD wouldn't boot. > >I have> tried burning several brands of disks and trying them in > >other> computers and I am now sure is not the media. I even disabled > >> hyperthreading in the BIOS and nothing. Anyone can offer some > >advise> about what to do? > >> > >> Teilhard. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hello, > > > > If you have set up your BIOS settings properly (to boot from a CD, > > and then from the disk), and it does not boot, maybe you just burned > > the ISO as a normal file in the CD. > > > > An ISO file is an image of the entire CD (it has a TOC, the > > bootable part, etc.), and to burn it there should be an option on > > the burning program (something containing the word "ISO", and a > > browser to select a file). > > > > Check this, if when you burn the cd and you read it you see only the > > ISO file, it is not right. If you see a lot of directories like > > 'boot','packages', it is fine, and it should boot. > > > > Best Regards, > > Thanks, Ale. I know how to burn images and the CD boots until the menu > where you get the choices about what kind of kernel boot you want. I > cannot boot even in safe mode. :o(. > > Teilhard. > Hello, Sorry, you did not mentioned it. What error messages do you get? Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 23:03:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED56516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:03:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5DB43D1D for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@localhost.free.fr) Received: from vincent (ferreol-1-82-66-171-150.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.171.150]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D1A2B715C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:00:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by vincent (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2AD39C998C; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:00:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:00:35 +0100 From: Bachelier Vincent To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050314230035.GA11988@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD vincent 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE Subject: gdesklet need gtkhtml2, and gtkhtml2 isn't in port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:03:52 -0000 Gdesklets wouldn't want to run because gtkhtml2 miss and gtkhtml2 isn't in port, they is the 1 and the 3 ! any idea ? ==========================================================[03/14/05-23:55:53]=== Deprecation: Sensors are deprecated since v0.30. 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[---] 115 # [---] 116 _old_imp = __import__ [---] 117 def _new_imp(name, globs = {}, locls = {}, fromlist = []): [---] 118 [ERR]> 119 module = _old_imp(name, globs, locls, fromlist) [---] 120 # builtin modules have no "__file__" attribute, so we have to check for it [---] 121 if (hasattr(module, "__file__")): [---] 122 module.__file__ = os.path.abspath(module.__file__) [---] 123 return module [---] 124 [---] 125 import __builtin__ Getting website... <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x880f3a0> Tempelhof Arpt/Berlin <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x880b6e0> Monday =================================================== <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x87bc578> SSW Observation: ( @Berlin, 23:20 LT Mon 14 Mar 05 ) ( with 0 forecasts ) icon : 33 sky : Fair temperature : 1 °C relative_heat : -1 °C dewpoint : -2 °C visibility : 6.2 km uv : 0 pollution : 0 wind : SSW wind_speed : 10 kph reverse_wind_arrows : 0 wind_icon : wind_icons/weak/SSW.png humidity : 81 % pressure : 1016 mbar pressure_change : steady <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x8807548> +++++++++++++++++++Today's Forecast++++++++++++++++++++++++ Forecast: Mon ( date=Mar 14 ) icon : 44 sky : N/a temperature_low : 0 °C temperature_high: N/A uv : N/A pollution : 0 wind_speed : 0 kph wind : Calm humidity : 0 % rain : 30 % pressure : 0 mbar pressure_change : N/A sunrise : N/A sunset : N/A Forecast: Tue ( date=Mar 15 ) icon : 39 sky : Pm showers temperature_low : 6 °C temperature_high: 8 °C uv : N/A pollution : 0 wind_speed : 0 kph wind : Calm humidity : 0 % rain : 50 % pressure : 0 mbar pressure_change : N/A sunrise : N/A sunset : N/A Forecast: Wed ( date=Mar 16 ) icon : 11 sky : Showers temperature_low : 6 °C temperature_high: 12 °C uv : N/A pollution : 0 wind_speed : 0 kph wind : Calm humidity : 0 % rain : 50 % pressure : 0 mbar pressure_change : N/A sunrise : N/A sunset : N/A Forecast: Thu ( date=Mar 17 ) icon : 11 sky : Light rain temperature_low : 8 °C temperature_high: 11 °C uv : N/A pollution : 0 wind_speed : 0 kph wind : Calm humidity : 0 % rain : 60 % pressure : 0 mbar pressure_change : N/A sunrise : N/A sunset : N/A Forecast: Fri ( date=Mar 18 ) icon : 11 sky : Light rain temperature_low : 7 °C temperature_high: 11 °C uv : N/A pollution : 0 wind_speed : 0 kph wind : Calm humidity : 0 % rain : 60 % pressure : 0 mbar pressure_change : N/A sunrise : N/A sunset : N/A ==========================================================[03/14/05-23:57:51]=== Could not remove display ""! ==========================================================[03/14/05-23:57:51]=== Could not remove display ""! ==========================================================[03/14/05-23:57:51]=== Could not remove display ""! -- Vincent Bachelier Language : Francais / English Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr - Serveurs linux Blog : http://dieghostfbsd.blogspot.com Site perso : http://www.solintech.fr/freebsd/ - FreeBSD Donjon Citation (fortune): "Every man has his price. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 23:16:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB4016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:16:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f5.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6887343D48 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:16:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:16:21 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 208.186.54.187 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:16:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.54.187] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] X-Sender: missive@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <200503141438.14896.ringworm01@gmail.com> From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:46:21 +0430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2005 23:16:21.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[D563A4B0:01C528EB] Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:16:21 -0000 > > I keep hearing great things about portmanager, but I have > > not been able to run it... when I try, I get: > > > > > > # portmanager -s > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--- PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_3 info: Creating inital data bases > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--- PMGRrVerifyContentsFile 0.2.9_3 error: could not open > > /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS > > system message: No such file or directory > > Assertion failed: (0), function PMGRrVerifyContentsFile, file > > PMGRrVerifyContentsFile.c,line 75. > > Abort (core dumped) > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > >Does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 exist on your system? If so >does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS exist? > Ah... # ls -ld /var/db/pkg/mail* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 15 21:43 /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 # ls -l /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 total 0 # pkg_info | grep mail pkg_info: the package info for package 'mailman-2.1.5_2' is corrupt I re-installed mailman and now portmanager is working. Still... seems like it should not dump core on the corrupt package info. Thanks for your help. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 23:27:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CC416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0937F43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:27:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDD007E77U0PIC1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:27:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17AD82CE75B; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:27:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:27:34 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503141527.35204.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:27:40 -0000 On Monday 14 March 2005 03:16 pm, Lee Harr wrote: > > > I keep hearing great things about portmanager, but I have > > > not been able to run it... when I try, I get: > > > > > > > > > # portmanager -s > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >---- --- PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_3 info: Creating inital data bases > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >---- --- PMGRrVerifyContentsFile 0.2.9_3 error: could not open > > > /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS > > > system message: No such file or directory > > > Assertion failed: (0), function PMGRrVerifyContentsFile, file > > > PMGRrVerifyContentsFile.c,line 75. > > > Abort (core dumped) > > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > >Does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 exist on your system? If so > >does /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2/+CONTENTS exist? > > Ah... > > # ls -ld /var/db/pkg/mail* > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 15 21:43 > /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 # ls -l /var/db/pkg/mailman-2.1.5_2 > total 0 > # pkg_info | grep mail > pkg_info: the package info for package 'mailman-2.1.5_2' is corrupt > > > I re-installed mailman and now portmanager is working. > > Still... seems like it should not dump core on the > corrupt package info. > > Thanks for your help. Your welcome. I'll take your suggestion and make a more informative message. Using pkg_info was a great idea, I'll use that for producing the message. :) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 14 23:33:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879C116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:33:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nimsay-networks.com (trance.nimsay-networks.com [82.96.86.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631E243D60 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@bsdunix.us) Received: (qmail 25455 invoked by uid 1015); 14 Mar 2005 23:33:12 -0000 Received: from 67.143.7.33 by trance (envelope-from , uid 1015) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(67.143.7.33):. Processed in 6.000121 secs); 14 Mar 2005 23:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.19.0.219?) (eric@bsdunix.us@67.143.7.33) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 23:33:06 -0000 Message-ID: <423620D8.1030900@bsdunix.us> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:40:08 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <4234F80A.80901@bsdunix.us> <20050313215820.B74062@april.chuckr.org> <4235ADFE.2050400@bsdunix.us> <20050314151838.K74062@april.chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <20050314151838.K74062@april.chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: logitech cordless mouse w/ freebsd 5.3 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:33:14 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: >On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Eric wrote: > > > >>I removed above this to save some bandwidth, as bandwidth is not free >>every where in the world :) >> >>Chuck Robey wrote: >> >> >> >>>>I then edit the pointer section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to: >>>> >>>> Identifier "Mouse1" >>>> Driver "mouse" >>>> Option "Protocol" "Auto" >>>> Option "Device" "/dev/bpsm0" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I am running FreeBSD-6.0-current, but I bet it works for you like it works >>>(just fine) for me. Try it, what have you got to lose? However, if it >>>works, you owe us a usage report, Sirrah! >>> >>>Anyhow, FreeBSD is not terribly willing to share the mouse. When it >>>boots, the stupid thing will start 'moused' processes on both mouses. >>>Check this with: >>> >>>ps -ax | grep mouse >>> >>>if it's like I think it is, one of the lines that come back will report a >>>device filename of ums0. You need this process dead, dead, dead. You >>>*could*, I suppose, edit /etc/usbd.conf ... >>> >>>After you do that, the stuff you have above for Xorg isn't enough either, >>>cause you left out the wheel. take those lines out and replace them with >>> >>>Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Mouse0" >>> Driver "mouse" >>> Option "Protocol" "auto" >>> Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" >>> Option "Buttons" "5" >>> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >>>EndSection >>> >>>Don't forget, at the top: >>> >>>Section "ServerLayout" >>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>EndSection >>> >>> >>>Try this, tell me how it works. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Chuck, >> Setting my mouse driver to "ums0", will make X crash before loading. >>My box never reported the ums0 device/the usb mouse. The usbd is >>running. There is no moused processes running on this box, as it is >>disabled in /etc/rc.conf. I get the scroll wheel to work as a middle >>button, but you are right, the scroll feature does not work. >> >> > >Just 1 thing I need to confirm: did you kill the moused process BEFORE >starting X? Because if you didn't, that's exactly what happens to me. I >need to kill the moused process that is tying up ums0, then I can start up >X. > > > I do not have any problem with the moused running at all (after doing the steps in the original email). Also as far as my os is concerned there is no USB mouse attached to the workstation. We are using different versions of FreeBSD :) By editing /etc/rc.conf and adding this line at the end: moused_enable="NO" , and then rebooting, keeps my moused from starting. I suppose I could have done #killall -9 moused *and* edited /etc/rc.conf with no immediate reboot. When I appended the line to /boot/device.hints, I rebooted for that too. This box is a workstation with one user, me, so uptime is not a issue. As far as the order of the steps, please see the original email. I did start X last after doing everything in the original email, as the mouse did not work at all until all steps were complete. >> Option "Buttons" "5" >> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >> >>Setting those two options does not enable the scroll wheel. I think that >>is due to the generic PS/2 driver reported in dmesg. Having a working >>scroll wheel was never a issue for me :) Also note, I never tried >>FreeBSD 6.x . >> >> >> > >No, let's fix the mouse first, then we worry about the mouse wheel. > > > I re-read "man psm" and I believe the flags i set (/boot/device.hints) keep the mouse driver at level 0. A level 1 driver would make the scroll wheel work. When I boot with a level 1 driver, my mouse is completly dead in X. It is beyond my skills and desire, to code a custom driver :) >>I am not sure if the following info matters or not: >> >>This is included as it may give you some hints for fixing the wheel >>feature. This mouse config was a combination of some google hints that >>led me to look at, 'man psm', 'man device.hints', and my experience >>with Freebsd 4.x. FreeBSD 4.x taught me that using /dev/bpsm0 in >>the X config would work, with this mouse and this kvm. I didn't try >>setting up the moused in /etc/rc.conf with FreeBSD 5.x. In FreeBSD 4.x >>adding the bpsm0 config to /etc/rc.conf just lead to error messages >>getting reported to my shells every so often. >> >>Here is some additional info: >> >> >>%ls /dev >>acd0 ata fido psm0 ttyv3 >>acpi atkbd0 geom.ctl ptyp0 ttyv4 >>ad0 audio0.0 io ptyp1 ttyv5 >>ad0s1 audio0.1 kbd0 ptyp2 ttyv6 >>ad0s10 bpf0 klog ptyp3 ttyv7 >>ad0s1a bpsm0 kmem random ttyv8 >>ad0s1b console log sndstat ttyv9 >>ad0s1c consolectl lpt0 stderr ttyva >>ad0s1d ctty lpt0.ctl stdin ttyvb >>ad0s1e cuaa0 mdctl stdout ttyvc >>ad0s1f cuaia0 mem sysmouse ttyvd >>ad0s2 cuala0 mixer0 ttyd0 ttyve >>ad0s3 devctl net ttyid0 ttyvf >>ad0s4 devstat net1 ttyld0 urandom >>ad0s5 dsp0.0 net2 ttyp0 usb >>ad0s6 dsp0.1 net3 ttyp1 usb0 >>ad0s7 dspW0.0 network ttyp2 usb1 >>ad0s8 dspW0.1 nfs4 ttyp3 usb2 >>ad0s9 dspr0.1 null ttyv0 xpt0 >>agpgart fd pci ttyv1 zero >>apm fd0 ppi0 ttyv2 >>%cat /etc/rc.conf >> >># -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 >># Created: Mon Jan 3 05:51:08 2005 >># Enable network daemons for user convenience. >># Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >># This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >>hostname="demon-spawn.bsdunix.us" >>ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" >>linux_enable="YES" >>usbd_enable="YES" >>moused_port="/dev/psm0" >>moused_type="auto" >>moused_enable="NO" >>% >>%ps auxw | grep usbd >>root 362 0.0 0.2 1240 780 ?? Ss 5:51AM 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/usbd >>eric 871 0.0 0.1 348 232 p3 R+ 7:38AM 0:00.00 grep usbd >> >>%ps auxw | grep mouse >>eric 1240 0.0 0.5 2276 1760 p1 RV 9:18AM 0:00.00 grep mouse >>(csh) >> >> >>psm0: flags 0x204 irq 12 on atkbdc0 >>psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >>psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 >> >> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, >chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. > >New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up >fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, >Signa Phi Nothing). >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 00:02:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A19016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:02:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out-mx1.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B8843D49 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from teilhk@crosswinds.net) Received: from member-mx1.crosswinds.net (member-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.43]) by out-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FDD2C611 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from fortunato (unknown [201.135.231.193]) by member-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CA83D8111E for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:01:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000d01c528f2$35466650$210110ac@fortunato> From: "Teilhard Knight" To: "FreeBSD" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:01:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Correction CD doesn't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:02:01 -0000 I posted this message a while ago: <> What I should have said is that the CD itself boots but doesn't boot the kernel. After selecting the kind of kernel boot you want, I get a line and everything freezes. Sorry for my bad explaining. Teilhard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 00:06:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560A216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:06:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B5143D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:06:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so4513wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:06:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XJXrZ54uZ7WeWynbAy2zeasdN6s41prNq6MGuCf+2QoX3NasSASdd99W/2rG42ueNSXC5IXo/MVba0zNhM/ioXOHOb4TAnofZ6HexNEa25sH/Pg0cPawAP3VjY/nxxKkrJF7vjBgZuTROQYrXT2kP3YLld2RywY1r87l17jmS18= Received: by 10.38.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr87216rne; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:06:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:06:10 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:06:13 -0000 Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? portmanager -sl xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-fontserver COMMENT= X font server from X.Org xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-type1 COMMENT= X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic COMMENT= X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi COMMENT= X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi COMMENT= X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-miscbitmapsCOMMENT= X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver COMMENT= X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-printserver COMMENT= X Print server from X.Org xorg-nestserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-nestserver COMMENT= Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-server-6.7.0_9 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server COMMENT= X.Org X server and related programs xorg-manpages-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-manpages COMMENT= X.Org library manual pages xorg-clients-6.7.0_5 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients COMMENT= X client programs and related files from X.Org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 00:19:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1569A16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:19:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sb.santaba.com (sb.santaba.com [207.154.84.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA15843D58 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:19:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anon1@santaba.com) Received: from [192.168.3.100] (unknown [205.180.85.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sb.santaba.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811728483; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:19:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42362A56.8040704@santaba.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:20:38 -0800 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Foster References: <4235E50E.4000506@santaba.com> <001701c528e3$73ec7250$4300a8c0@home.lan> In-Reply-To: <001701c528e3$73ec7250$4300a8c0@home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jeff Behl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPMI doesn't work... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:19:19 -0000 Thomas Foster wrote: > How are you attempting to manage the server.. via a command line or > terminal emulation software directly to the BMC? What amangement > software ships with the IBM? Once the kernel loads, you need to > perform SOL (serial redirection over LAN), or use management software > the speaks directly with the BMC.. > > Just curious a little bit more about your setup > > T We've only used command line tools which speak directly to the BMC. The strange thing with these boxes is the network card is also used by the BMC. You configure (via the bios) a BMC IP address which is different from what the NIC is assigned via the OS. Like I said earlier, we're able to query/control the chassis just fine when the box is powered off or when it's booting, but as soon as the kernel loads, we lose control and simply no longer get any response from the BMC. This is not he case with the linux distros we've tried, so I'm guessing it's somehow to do with the NIC driver that BSD is loading... jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 00:34:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9533816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:34:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABB143D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:34:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1954wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:34:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZjlCbMWAcEvx1bydM9u5yZ0RNLzxfA7ZWleTVTWogVjtgs92mBib+klzJ5rv00OxUl0KXZg3cuX/I7TujsyZpUHmj+aVIdHjGz6djyZ+eEOQtOjB9yJJ+U6f8SNU0TZkbEf4VbrYxMuGKqf5/uHJGo+3VjENW9kscdf07at/2Aw= Received: by 10.38.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr105955rne; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:34:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:34:47 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503141621.51191.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503141621.51191.ringworm01@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:34:54 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:21:50 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Monday 14 March 2005 04:06 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? > > > > portmanager -sl > > > > xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-fontserver > > COMMENT= X font server from X.Org > > > > xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-type1 > > COMMENT= X.Org Type1 fonts > > > > xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 dir -=> > > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic COMMENT= X.Org > > Cyrillic bitmap fonts > > > > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir -=> > > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi COMMENT= X.Org 100dpi > > bitmap fonts > > > > xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi > > COMMENT= X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts > > > > xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 dir -=> > > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-miscbitmapsCOMMENT= X.Org > > miscellaneous bitmap fonts > > > > xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver > > COMMENT= X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org > > > > xorg-printserver-6.7.0 dir -=> > > /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-printserver COMMENT= X Print > > server from X.Org > > > > xorg-nestserver-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-nestserver > > COMMENT= Nesting X server from X.Org > > > > xorg-server-6.7.0_9 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server > > COMMENT= X.Org X server and related programs > > > > xorg-manpages-6.7.0 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-manpages > > COMMENT= X.Org library manual pages > > > > xorg-clients-6.7.0_5 dir -=> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients > > COMMENT= X client programs and related files from X.Org > > Gert, nothing you have installed has those ports listed as run > dependencies so technically you may delete them all. But to be safe, > do run portmanager -u right afterwards and see if any other ports cause > them to be pulled back in. Likely some of the fonts and xorg-clients > will be pulled back in by another port. > > -Mike > ok i deleted them i now have a new one i like to delete :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ports with no ports depending on them AKA "leaf ports." These ports may be safely deinstalled because no other ports list these as dependencies." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ xorg-server-6.7.0_9 /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server This package contains the X.Org X server and some associated programs. WWW: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xorg - Eric Anholt anholt@FreeBSD.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ to skip removes port *Nuke it*, removes distribution files ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you sure its a leaf port ? Because i have gnome2-lite running ? Is gnome still going to work if i nuke this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:03:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B2716A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:03:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728DB43D53 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:03:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so2304wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qpvXmvtvx/3aDOypWgnE2cYXsL8zcGSsLsGZzsZCgEwCHV7iHqBDsk6a8PrOuU5MgWyYprhQGOFVvYN5/xX+/zSjqLj2DcVuhPYvkN2sjRpIJdR0v3YjpnkiP0/aMehE6lhaN5Z17SjpiMbngOwCw1XgUW1rKU64teu0qIHu+BM= Received: by 10.38.6.72 with SMTP id 72mr119637rnf; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:03:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:03:00 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503141646.59540.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503141621.51191.ringworm01@gmail.com> <200503141646.59540.ringworm01@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:03:02 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:46:59 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > Don't NUKE it, just X it. Then run portmanager -u before you exit > gnome. If gnome needs it it portmanager -u will bring it back. In a > worst case scenerio you can run portmanager -u from the consol. > > Personally I think your asking for trouble by deleting anything with > xorg in its name, only do this if space is critical. Its more like time critical while uprading and compiling all of this :) PS is portmamager -u going to make a mess of my gnome ? I# portmanager -s ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_2 info: Creating inital data bases ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_2 info: looking for missing dependent ports ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11-fm/nautilus2; make all-depends-list * * * * eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 forcing rebuild of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 to fix /var/db/pkg/nautilus2-2.8.2_1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new nautilus2-2.8.2_1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2". If portmanager fails during rebuild of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by executing command:cd /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomecontrolcenter2; make all-depends-list * * * * eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 forcing rebuild of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of gedit2-2.8.2verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by executing command:cd /usr/ports/editors/gedit; make all-depends-list * * * * eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gedit2-2.8.2 forcing rebuild of gedit2-2.8.2 to fix /var/db/pkg/gedit2-2.8.2/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gedit2-2.8.2 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gedit2-2.8.2 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make all-depends-list * * * * eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- ggv2-2.8.1[/print/ggv2] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 verifing dependency status of ggv2-2.8.1 (may take awhile) by executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make all-depends-list * * * * ggv2-2.8.1 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: ggv2-2.8.1 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f ggv2-2.8.1". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- nautilus-media-0.8.1[/multimedia/nautilus-media] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 verifing dependency status of nautilus-media-0.8.1 (may take awhile) by executing command: cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make all-depends-list * * * * nautilus-media-0.8.1 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: nautilus-media-0.8.1 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f nautilus-media-0.8.1". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- gedit2-2.8.2[/editors/gedit2] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 verifing dependency status of gedit2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by executing command: cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make all-depends-list * * * * gedit2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: gedit2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f gedit2-2.8.2". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -=>MISSING<=- eog2-2.8.2_1[/graphics/eog2] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 verifing dependency status of eog2-2.8.2_1 (may take awhile) by executing command: cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make all-depends-list * * * * eog2-2.8.2_1 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix /var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file. * * * * WARNING: eog2-2.8.2_1 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency and may have to be manually removed with "pkg_delete -f eog2-2.8.2_1". If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review /usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_2 info: looking for old installed ports ------------------------------------------------------------------------ have:expat-1.95.8 status: CURRENT: /textproc/expat2 have:freetype2-2.1.7_3 status: OLD available:freetype2-2.1.9 /print/freetype2 have:pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 status: CURRENT: /devel/pkgconfig have:fontconfig-2.2.3,1 status: CURRENT: /x11-fonts/fontconfig have:perl-5.8.5 status: OLD available:perl-5.8.6_2 /lang/perl5.8 have:imake-6.7.0_2 status: OLD available:imake-6.8.1 /devel/imake-6 have:xorg-libraries-6.7.0_3 status: OLD available:xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 /x11/xorg-libraries have:libXft-2.1.6 status: CURRENT: /x11-fonts/libXft have:png-1.2.7 status: OLD available:png-1.2.8_1 /graphics/png have:xorg-server-6.7.0_9 status: OLD 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------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ status report finished ======================================================================== I# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:04:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC60816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:04:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E41943D49 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:04:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A0B485694; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:34:07 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:34:07 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ludo Koren Message-ID: <20050315010407.GN12078@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pP0ycGQONqsnqIMP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:04:12 -0000 --pP0ycGQONqsnqIMP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 14 March 2005 at 10:38:02 +0100, Ludo Koren wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 for backup on DDS-4 tapes 40GB in size. > > ... > > Why I cannot dump the filesystem on 2 tapes (it takes 3, it seems it > works without compression) no matter if I use dump or cpio? What I am > doing wrong? You're using dump :-) Dump is too stupid to understand compression or EOF marks, so it errs on the side of caution. It's also IMO not a very good backup medium unless you really want the incremental dump facility. Even between different releases of FreeBSD there are compatibility problems, and you can assume that there is no compatibility at all between different operating systems. You may find tar a better choice. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --pP0ycGQONqsnqIMP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNjSHIubykFB6QiMRArWOAJ4u/jWU5LIhtOS+btqWg4DG8jHhlwCgs68K yytUWMx058En6grAtTosFkc= =G67J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pP0ycGQONqsnqIMP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:10:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4697016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:10:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FC343D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.wirth@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so415wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:10:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gD2QdzYs8uSGXQCcwGHfAlWr7VT0dQDjECi6KTJpFzuBc9SkoFG6Teip1OrQ+L91xnm8K/TgyBAZ9glnU1Z9ZdCsb33JaxfhXljTS1RnFBFO5cI8lD7ggVrZTgIxklH9J4nRcEE85SOn1UFmFgtQCS9Yi4a5FNtVBVVA0d4eoL8= Received: by 10.38.181.2 with SMTP id d2mr812928rnf; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.181.68 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:36:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2cf69205031408365a68e181@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:36:34 -0500 From: Jeff Wirth To: Dennis Olvany In-Reply-To: <000601c52897$ef578430$0366a8c0@d> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c52897$ef578430$0366a8c0@d> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff Wirth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:10:27 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 07:15:39 -0600, Dennis Olvany wrote: > just installed it and having trouble getting it going > fresh mysql4.1 install on fbsd5.3 > > bsd# mysqladmin flush-privileges > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' > Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! > bsd# mysql_install_db --user=mysql > Installing all prepared tables > Fill help tables First, how did mysql come to be on your box... ports, package or source? -jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:11:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9142416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E89943D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2F1BSh18480; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503150111.j2F1BSh18480@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: user@celeritystorm.com (-^-) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:11:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4235EFB6.9010405@celeritystorm.com> from "-" at Mar 14, 2005 08:10:30 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:11:30 -0000 > > You shouldn't use FreeBSD then, it is full of evil demons that will take > over your system on the first chance they get.. :) No, that's not very helpful response. If a person has this much difficulty understanding things and assuming religious significance where there is none, then he already has enough problems and doesn't need your ridicule. So, just have patience and even though it is a frequent repeat, help him remove the bits of graphics he doesn't like. You would do the same if it was some other splash screen, so don't you make it a religious issue yourself in refusing to treat it just like any other similar bit of graphics or text. ////jerry > > Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > >hello > > > >i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > > > >1. it is *VERY* unprofessional > >2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world > >3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > > they laugh and go: > > > > "is THAT your supersystem? blah" > > > >somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? > >i don't want anything to do with it. > > > >thanks, > >-- fafa > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:15:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E378C16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DE543D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D0FD01F; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:15:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42363716.4030404@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:15:02 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050314 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20050311172121.GB74913@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <423313BC.8090000@locolomo.org> <20050314213021.GA21470@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050314213021.GA21470@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up a danish locale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:09 -0000 Steve Kargl wrote: > Erik, Thanks for the pointer. The above partially solved > out problem. My colleague would like to use the US keyboard > layout and switch to a Danish layout when he's interacting with > someone back home. Do you know if this is possible with xmodmap? > I'm hoping that I can set up some shell aliases that do > > setenv do_danish "xmodmap danish.keys" > setenv do_english "xmodmap english.keys" No, I personally don't like switching keyboard layouts - I want it to be the keys shown on the actual keyboard I use. It it is a matter of having the danish characters available and less important where they are, then it is posible to define meta-keys - If you or your visiting professor understands german there is an article here: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~eserte/FreeBSD/doc/umlaute/umlaute.html It seems to cover how to use xmodmap: xmodmap ${HOME}/.xmodmaprc - section 2.2.2 I generally stick with the danish keyboard - with exception of c-circonflex I don't know of any latin character I can't reproduce, so I haven't tried. Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:15:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D52116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272C143D60 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so7606wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:15:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MB/MVFsFOIaO+7FgQ6ZW6C/azRsh6HXcUk9JeovCRcczr/IUdHvMmQuRYxWGT17XOKDsXVHg/hFYjQyEY0IsiGKxEKWwrcdScQjAj8D3T1+WB2D1pG8yhYGrO0DnuCFngXOCM9PNrw6ZeOMADSrSernezBtyasjXJaVQR6nrbeg= Received: by 10.39.1.42 with SMTP id d42mr129581rni; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:15:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:15:20 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503141710.01524.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503141646.59540.ringworm01@gmail.com> <200503141710.01524.ringworm01@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:15:26 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:10:01 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > In your case you should get your ports up to date with portmanager -u > before you worry about deleting leaves. because gnome was just upgraded > it may take a day or two for everything to be brought up to date. Seeing > the output below I say you desperately need to update these ports before > doing anything else. can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:28:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C6F16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D144543D55 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so6830wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PDBcLDy8cWg2NxPKL2hYUNgAyFBe9kPFhXYHQ+Y9V1lYu8bprGEYp970IPFdNZt6FpGmp8CPQ+8aGCnuoXWu57qhnrx49z+ntpjevv9Tc2u7ccMl0PpZl71ZkaaZD/F+2kTslNWcT6BqZ1YL9bxdc9qrVyGUB/vS3pRDmQvkZcs= Received: by 10.38.72.35 with SMTP id u35mr147279rna; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:28:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:28:13 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503141720.46605.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503141710.01524.ringworm01@gmail.com> <200503141720.46605.ringworm01@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:28:19 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:20:46 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Monday 14 March 2005 05:15 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:10:01 -0800, Michael C. Shultz > > > > wrote: > > > In your case you should get your ports up to date with portmanager > > > -u before you worry about deleting leaves. because gnome was just > > > upgraded it may take a day or two for everything to be brought up > > > to date. Seeing the output below I say you desperately need to > > > update these ports before doing anything else. > > > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? > > You sure can. portmanager is designed to be started/stopped > anytime. Maybe you don't want to exit out of anything though > in gnome until everthing is upgraded. Right now libraries are in memory > but if you exit say X then when you restart X all of the libraries need > to be reloaded and if you were in the middle of upgrading them things > will get ugly. In other words, don't shut off your system until it is > done and don't exit out of gnome for the same reason. > > -Mike > ok thx :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:53:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE9216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:53:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 163.com (smtp.163.com [202.108.44.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB64643D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:53:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heccj@163.com) Received: from [192.168.123.104] (unknown [211.161.123.73]) by smtp2 (Coremail) with SMTP id E4AQ0R9ANkIHIecE.1 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:53:43 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [211.161.123.73] Message-ID: <4236408B.3090107@163.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:55:23 +0800 From: heccj User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:53:55 -0000 Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 02:43: >>Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet >>this problem! >> >>I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i >>can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i >>use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup >>extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup >>extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? > > > Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating > systems. Their binaries are not compatible. > > >>How to resovle >>it? > > > If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate > while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. > > At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them > into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences and > make sure the settings are the same otherwise. > The bookmarks and history or other data can share correctly,just extesions!Some extensions can setup into the firefox program dir in windows(can in freebsd?),but most just setup into the profile extesions dir.If all the extension can select setup dir at setup time,perhaps this problem can be resolved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 01:57:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBDD16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5903B43D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2F1vX0V003513 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:57:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:06:19 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00b101c528da$ea82cf30$0401a8c0@frederic> In-Reply-To: <00b101c528da$ea82cf30$0401a8c0@frederic> (from bettan@nerim.net on Mon Mar 14 16:15:14 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110852379l.3253l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Boot problem with freebsd 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:57:37 -0000 On 03/14/05 16:15:14, cell wrote: > hello , i have problem when i boot with freebsd 5.3 since i have had =20 > a > power cut .The message of the error is : >=20 > error 16 Iba 191 > No /boot/loader >=20 > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > boot: error 16 Iba 191 > No /kernel >=20 > I don't know if the hard disk is endommaged but i don't think.How do > for boot in freebsd ? > _______________________________________________ boot /boot/kernel.old or use a install disc? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 02:09:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323BA16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73143D54 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1922734wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:09:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=T7Gv3iX6ft6k7jKcjRWAi0p/Nz8BRC8UA3MW00ot1y4YoaL42s2GEdwnN/4xYSeAx5lsymXdXYt9FKB0p+WeAI0Xr84XVf0W5QiR3HWxYUFRpn68Jx2dAnM46xDQtiJhD0Jy8VayJQ3Jk+zAszd0QQmvRmAcINLopZhtlq9TJsM= Received: by 10.54.15.2 with SMTP id 2mr523095wro; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.65 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:09:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <63c3899e05031418094da86358@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:09:21 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins To: heccj In-Reply-To: <4236408B.3090107@163.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <4236408B.3090107@163.com> cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:09:22 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:55:23 +0800, heccj wrote: > Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 02:43: > >>Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet > >>this problem! > >> > >>I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i > >>can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i > >>use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup > >>extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup > >>extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? > > > > > > Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating > > systems. Their binaries are not compatible. > > > > > >>How to resovle > >>it? > > > > > > If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate > > while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. > > > > At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them > > into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences and > > make sure the settings are the same otherwise. > > > The bookmarks and history or other data can share correctly,just > extesions!Some extensions can setup into the firefox program dir in > windows(can in freebsd?),but most just setup into the profile extesions > dir.If all the extension can select setup dir at setup time,perhaps this > problem can be resolved. > Hmm, I was under the impression that extensions for firefox were generally written in javascript? Some extensions might prove to be a little incompatible. I would start in safe mode. Remove all extensions and reinstall the latest copy of them again. Make sure when you do this that you have checked they are actually compatible with all OS and not just Windows and are for the correct version of your browser. If this still fails create a new profile and see if you can get that working. Remember to backup your bookmarks. :) Good Luck Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 02:12:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E858616A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8269B43D5A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:12:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2F2Cq0V020222; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:12:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:21:38 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: masterkev28 masterkev28 References: <449b8e71050313140869219505@mail.gmail.com> <449b8e7105031321021fdacc4b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <449b8e7105031321021fdacc4b@mail.gmail.com> (from masterkev28@gmail.com on Mon Mar 14 00:02:43 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110853298l.3253l.3l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:12:56 -0000 On 03/14/05 00:02:43, masterkev28 masterkev28 wrote: > Hi, > I didn't rebuild world, or kernel, however just some regular routine > portupgrade -a. > The problem is that no matter what I do with mergemaster, I get this > error( also the same error occurs on another box of mine), and it > started happening about a week ago after I did cvsup. >=20 > It keeps complaining the line 76~80 in /usr/src/etc/Makefile, where I > have no idea what's wrong with this file. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Kev > Cvsup! Cvsup what, the stanard file to upgrade your base system? You =20 don't need mergemaster unless you cvsup your base system, and if you =20 did that and merged the new files, thats bad. You should rebuild the =20 world and the kernel then install them. And don't cvsup unless you =20 intend to upgrade your base system. That can put things out of sink. >=20 > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:29:10 +0000, Jason Henson > wrote: > > On 03/13/05 17:08:56, masterkev28 masterkev28 wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > When I do mergemaster -ia, I get the following errors: > > > > > > *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, > > > /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if > > > untrusted > > > users have access to the system. > > > > > > > Why are you using -ia, they are th opposit in the man page. You > > should: > > > > # make buildworld > > # make buildkernel > > # make installkernel > > # reboot > > After installkernel finishes successfully, you should boot in =20 > single > > user mode (i.e. using boot -s from the loader prompt). Then run: > > # mergemaster -p > > # make installworld > > # mergemaster > > # reboot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 02:43:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB01B16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:43:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FE443D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2F240Lv028594; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:04:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:12:46 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Alex de Kruijff References: <20050314161349.GA763@Alex.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050314161349.GA763@Alex.lan> (from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl on Mon Mar 14 11:13:49 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110852766l.3253l.2l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:43:52 -0000 What is in your windows boot.ini file? On 03/14/05 11:13:49, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've recently reinstalled windows. Windows removes the MBR as you > know. > So ather I installed it I set partion 1 (FreeBSD) active and =20 > rebooted. > Then I followed the handbook and did fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0. Now > I > get the orginal screen afther booting. Only it beeps when I press F2 > (Windows). I can mount the second partion on FreeBSD, but cant boot. > Any > ideas to what I'm missing here? >=20 > # fdisk > ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=3D484521 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) >=20 > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=3D484521 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) >=20 > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 20971377 (10239 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 104/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)) > start 20980890, size 20948760 (10228 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 1023/ head 0/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > The data for partition 3 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 41942880, size 446454288 (217995 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 1023/ head 210/ sector 1; > end: cyl 1023/ head 80/ sector 63 > The data for partition 4 is: > >=20 > -- > Alex >=20 > Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your > reply. > WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 02:53:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B50D16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:53:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC2343D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so2282wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:53:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ksRl/YuDDcRYrH64kVI96Q7eUL5ajaVA4iBiWnodGfw55/zW9aFAXZ57u19JRBmSeYdZJgLLcS8SsEejuYQ8dAkQ9+5aTlB9eviwAAB5XsOkinhz6ZZ5r9xiBZvqE1JiTjLbkSm4i73hP6/VN3n1ADp1FHFgCXHMZ62SwOmVbB0= Received: by 10.38.208.65 with SMTP id f65mr5610808rng; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.79.52 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:54:21 -0800 From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Source-upgrading from FreeBSD 4.9 to 4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: patrick List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:53:15 -0000 I'm trying to do a source upgrade from FreeBSD 4.9 to 4.11, but during the "make buildworld", I get the following: ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs make: don't know how to make stack.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs. *** Error code 1 ... I didn't see any mention of this in the handbook, but do I have to upgrade to 4.10 first, and then go up to 4.11? Thanks, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 03:01:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1FE16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:01:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40B343D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:01:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from localhost.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D96C104; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:01:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <4236408B.3090107@163.com> In-Reply-To: <4236408B.3090107@163.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503142201.05764.ean@hedron.org> Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:01:08 -0000 On March 14, 2005 08:55 pm, heccj wrote: > Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 02:43: > >>Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet > >>this problem! > >> > >>I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i > >>can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i > >>use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup > >>extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup > >>extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? > > > > Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating > > systems. Their binaries are not compatible. > > > >>How to resovle > >>it? > > > > If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate > > while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. > > > > At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them > > into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences > > and make sure the settings are the same otherwise. > > The bookmarks and history or other data can share correctly, Good. > just > extesions!Some extensions can setup into the firefox program dir in > windows(can in freebsd?), I'm not sure what you are trying to say. > but most just setup into the profile extesions > dir. I believe you can simply move the extension to the global extensions directory and restart Firefox. If you try it, make a note of which extensions you moved because you might have to move them back. > If all the extension can select setup dir at setup time,perhaps this > problem can be resolved. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 03:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA3616A4D0 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 163.com (smtp.163.com [202.108.44.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 478EB43D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heccj@163.com) Received: from [192.168.123.104] (unknown [211.161.123.73]) by smtp2 (Coremail) with SMTP id NAGFty1TNkIlsIYF.1 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:15:01 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [211.161.123.73] Message-ID: <4236539A.3090102@163.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:16:42 +0800 From: heccj User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050310) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <4236408B.3090107@163.com> <200503142201.05764.ean@hedron.org> In-Reply-To: <200503142201.05764.ean@hedron.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:15:17 -0000 Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 11:01: > On March 14, 2005 08:55 pm, heccj wrote: > >>Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 02:43: >> >>>>Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet >>>>this problem! >>>> >>>>I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd 5.3,i >>>>can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i >>>>use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup >>>>extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup >>>>extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? >>> >>>Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating >>>systems. Their binaries are not compatible. >>> >>> >>>>How to resovle >>>>it? >>> >>>If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate >>>while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. >>> >>>At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them >>>into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences >>>and make sure the settings are the same otherwise. >> >>The bookmarks and history or other data can share correctly, > > Good. > >>just >>extesions!Some extensions can setup into the firefox program dir in >>windows(can in freebsd?), > > > I'm not sure what you are trying to say. just extensions can't work correctly.If all the extension can setup at firefox main direcotory,this is not a problem,i can setup in windows and freebsd individually.Unfortunetly,only seral extension can setup like that! > > >>but most just setup into the profile extesions >>dir. > > > I believe you can simply move the extension to the global extensions directory > and restart Firefox. I have tried,if the extesions at profile directory are moved into firefox's main directory,firefox can not find this extensions at all. > > If you try it, make a note of which extensions you moved because you might > have to move them back. > > >>If all the extension can select setup dir at setup time,perhaps this >>problem can be resolved. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 03:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B62116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao06.cox.net (lakermmtao06.cox.net [68.230.240.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F6F43D5A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@bobj.org) Received: from mail.bobj.org ([24.250.218.207]) by lakermmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050315031734.KKLN21504.lakermmtao06.cox.net@mail.bobj.org> for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:17:34 -0500 Received: from bobj.dyndns.org ([192.168.132.161]) (AUTH: PLAIN bobj, ) by mail.bobj.org with esmtp; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:17:36 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:17:28 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503141720.j2EHKqw16442@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200503141720.j2EHKqw16442@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503142217.29528.bob89@bobj.org> cc: Jerry McAllister cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen cc: Jerry McAllister cc: "Loren M. Lang" Subject: Re: What's the easiest way to do a backup and verify? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:17:38 -0000 On Monday 14 March 2005 12:20 pm, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > * Jerry McAllister [2005-03-14 10:30 -0500] > > > > > > [...] So then wouldn't a second dump of the same snapshot diffed to > > > > the tape device be a good for a verify? > > > > > > No, because the condition of the files that you are dumping the second > > > time is different from the first time. > > > > > > Most places cannot afford to make file systems completely unavailable > > > for periods of time long enough (several hours, up to a couple of > > > days) to allow dump to be run twice without any changes being made to > > > the file system. In FreeBSD 5.3 a snapshot can be created in parallel with a live filesystem. There is no need to stop normal operation while doing a backup of the snapshot (if I understand it correctly). Whether different files are consistent with each other (e.g. two database files simultaneously used by the same application) if you do a snapshot of a live filesystem is still likely to be a problem. > > > > Note the OP's use of the word "snapshot". I think he is right! Or if he > > isn't; it has nothing to do with the filesystem beeing changed, but > > rather something to do with the way the backup is written to tape. > > However, I do think snapshots could be used for exactly this. > > But, if he is writing a snapshot, then why is he using dump? > I think he was using the word snapshot to imply the dump file. > But, of course, I could be wrong. > I assumed that when he said "snapshot" he meant "snapshot", a frozen image of a filesytem I.E. see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html And it seems to me that he's right. Two dumps of the same snapshot ought to have no diffs, so you could check the tape against the snapshot before deleting the snapshot. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 03:46:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81DF16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0899343D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so3080wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:46:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=V08h+P/YEf8pqM5NxXjzURkb4AM5n0h3zH8M/vDXXWM8WGpNnkVUojq6XDSCuB1x6tkVOmtr1Mp6wF8FyeusenqyIOc78EGKdmsulwWSgmccOCSVlaUkEFEje7FPszWa0Li1jxZ2nYK4ceiYXfJKOoePYAehpGbk4FcxTZBgQDY= Received: by 10.38.78.51 with SMTP id a51mr3380373rnb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:33:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:33:04 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: Chris Hodgins In-Reply-To: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42357531.1080405@cis.strath.ac.uk> cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Port options and portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:46:20 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:27:45 +0000, Chris Hodgins wrote: > Hi, > > If I want to retain a port option (that perhaps I passed at the command > line using -D) between uprades of a port, will portmanager handle this > automatically or do the options need to be placed in make.conf? You can put the option in /etc/make.conf if you want but then it will be picked up by all the ports. If you read the manpage for portmanager I think it should tell you about the configuration file where you can store all the options. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head at the moment I'm afraid. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 04:25:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC00D16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F1C43D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so995wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:25:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KgYDZ3TVGll38CHv9FGTe1DcwZpMYHFPwMaRYpmlRZaREFSLhp7Ty/I0Khc5hJCavcQrGyaZCTdE7Kwcb4aGzFUAmshZrzSwgoU/QzrbgmkXOmLj8UPG3IGwGAmi6PkVQa23++XIGOKB6lOG1hNF5/Ey8UDCbrT0XrBU8x6RUQA= Received: by 10.38.75.71 with SMTP id x71mr5565763rna; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.52 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:10:01 -0800 From: Derrick Ryalls To: roma In-Reply-To: <200503140827.j2E8REeP051821@sky.muh.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503140827.j2E8REeP051821@sky.muh.ru> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux_base compatibility issue? Counter-Strike X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Derrick Ryalls List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:25:20 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:27:14 +0300, roma wrote: > Hi, > > At me the same problem as at you, whether was possible to you to solve it? > [Paste from other thread] > > I came across a post you made regarding the following erros on the CS source > with freebsd 4.9 > > Illegal instruction (core dumped) > > cat: hlds.12893.pid: No such file or directory > > Deprecated bfd_read called at > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dwarf2read.c > line 3049 in dwarf2_read_section > > Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. > > /lib/libm.so.6: No such file or directory. > > debug.cmds:1: Error in sourced command file: > > email debug.log to linux@valvesoftware.com > > Did you ever figure out a resolu8tion to the problem or is the only fix to > upgrade to 5.3 ? > > Any help would be appreciated! > First, make sure you are using linux_compat8 not 7. If that alone works, then wonderful. If not, then the next part depends on what processor you have. If you can support MMX/SSE, the enable SSE in your kernel (off by default in 4.x I believe) and try again. When CS:S first came out, I had to do the SSE/compat8 thing to get it working on an Athlon XP box under 4.x, my Athlon XP box that was running 5.x had no problem once I install compat. For a long time, I couldn't run it on my test server (K6-2 350, no SSE possible), but sometime recently Valve must have fixed it to use old CPUs as well as it did work the last time I tried. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 04:33:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EE816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:33:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D088043D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from fat_man.ascendency.net ([67.175.78.52]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005031504331201400jgvjse>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:33:12 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (c-67-173-128-145.client.comcast.net [67.173.128.145]) (authenticated) by fat_man.ascendency.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2F4Zxm12806 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:36:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Message-Id: <200503150436.j2F4Zxm12806@fat_man.ascendency.net> From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:32:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcUpFn+trOmwvBksQq6UJPrlli5WrA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:33:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that is compatible with 5.3? The 3ware ones listed in the hardware notes are pretty expensive...over a hundred dollars for the lowest end card. Is 5.3 compatible with any of the adpatec or promise cards? - ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjZi2WjZbUnRudGOEQKvAACcDcsjakeOJPhiYZm/tAsEdkcPZ+0AoP2c nGabh6KPUQ2IYDebz3jRrMHa =phU2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 04:42:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E934E16A4E7 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:42:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A3943D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:42:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1613wri for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:42:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=nIFnnd/AEOJvZ2nHnlg/T7u/TDYg/vrXNGwPlR1oaxX3BIPoVUtAqT4fURX8rgIXB582aNs36e6EQMFPsSSvJ+CBvY5Ipsa5XeeTkw1UOh99NYRXFWZ4RjBKy83r4sFVQ1YCTl6Yu2Z3pAs1uDvHG8n6Zs2PDUnXvmJv49s2A9g= Received: by 10.38.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr260981rne; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([24.60.144.26]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m35sm1270947rnd.2005.03.14.20.42.22; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:42:22 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:43:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: dovecot is broken in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:42:24 -0000 Hi Just want to report that dovecot seems to be broken : ===> Returning to build of dovecot-0.99.14 ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: sasl2.2 - found ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found You need a group "dovecot". Would you like me to create it [y]? Done. You need a user "dovecot". Would you like me to create it [y]? Done. ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if mail/dovecot already installed install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/pop3/pop3 /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/auth/dovecot-auth /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap-login/imap-login /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/pop3-login/pop3-login /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ install: /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/dovecot. I am trying to set up a mailserver with postfix (having abandoned the idea of using qmail due to its complicated nature of setup) with dovecot as the imap server. I need an imap server that can work with postfix, and is easy to configure to run over imaps only. A link to a HOWTO would be very welcome. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 04:50:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF59E16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:50:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8D943D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.wirth@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so3890wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:50:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hRkUvmui7e62Ns3NH0z1AelXiMvx3JKD1rklCrSIqOVnRNmRXI+eml966ZTHZmW62vCbx3xOykQ323voIELsMjaVRJ/NqizA3cbI+hkWU684t5uNpIE57Nk42zYQ6+VESSYNPgGCVWSgwlLY8Or/XD46J+3hzKGjV6fO/o4ik8U= Received: by 10.38.181.2 with SMTP id d2mr993972rnf; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.181.68 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:55:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2cf6920503141155f3882c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:55:31 -0500 From: Jeff Wirth To: Dennis Olvany In-Reply-To: <000e01c528c7$0bd1f800$0366a8c0@d> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c52897$ef578430$0366a8c0@d> <5d2cf69205031408365a68e181@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c528c7$0bd1f800$0366a8c0@d> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff Wirth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:50:52 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:52:59 -0600, Dennis Olvany wrote: > > mysql via ports If that's the case everything should to be good to go after the port is install. With the exception of creating the root password (and of course creating your own dbs). On your original post you listed some stuff that looked like the standard mysql install steps, which since you used the ports most of that is done for you.. >> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)' >> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! verify the following in /etc/rc.conf: mysql_enable = "YES" start mysql: # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start -jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 05:04:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBE816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:04:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C943D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kljgroups@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2523wra for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:04:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o8Zr0eYzEJMhRYk7voUmXkvOoxjpw+SahizO7ELMo1OxEtTrowB9GRusdXR0iuIEI+aI9SVjXMcW6RBeflCybNzq3KYLmu0wNrV7lyXQZqvfzH+wtYIYMM3BbYSJBadLQuQed/pP7XN53T73rQhyvuIuiOeoTOqyRKfy5adUh10= Received: by 10.38.97.35 with SMTP id u35mr1308066rnb; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.75.36 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:04:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:04:30 -0500 From: Kyle Jensen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cutting down on ssh breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kyle Jensen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:04:46 -0000 Hi, I run a webmail server for a small company, which is (of course) running FreeBSD 5-stable. I get about 50-100 failed loging attempts via ssh on a daily basis. Occasionally, these show up in my daily security digest with messages like: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for h169-210-68-8.a dcast.com.tw failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! But mostly it's stuff like Illegal user postgres from 210.68.8.169 What's the best way to cut down on these attempts? I thought about adding a blacklist to my pf.conf rules for the pf firewall. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Kyle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 05:28:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658B116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:28:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AA143D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:28:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20050315052805m9100r849me>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:28:05 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kyle Jensen Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:28:03 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503142328.04036.josh@tcbug.org> Subject: Re: Cutting down on ssh breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:28:08 -0000 On Monday 14 March 2005 07:04, Kyle Jensen wrote: > Hi, > > I run a webmail server for a small company, which > is (of course) running FreeBSD 5-stable. I get about > 50-100 failed loging attempts via ssh on a daily basis. > > Occasionally, these show up in my daily security digest > with messages like: > > reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for h169-210-68-8.a > dcast.com.tw failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! > > But mostly it's stuff like > > Illegal user postgres from 210.68.8.169 > > What's the best way to cut down on these attempts? > I thought about adding a blacklist to my pf.conf rules > for the pf firewall. > > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! > Kyle Maybe this is an obvious question, but do you need world access to ssh? -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 06:19:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B1F16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6024943D62 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b168.otenet.gr [212.205.244.176]) j2F6J1Rb014495; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:19:03 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2F6JKTB042755; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:19:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2F6JH7n042754; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:19:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:19:17 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Doug Poland Message-ID: <20050315061917.GB42670@gothmog.gr> References: <20050314215615.GM65944@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050314215615.GM65944@polands.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.subr startup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:19:26 -0000 On 2005-03-14 15:56, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running 5.3-STABLE and I want to write a startup script for > ports/sysutils/mcron. The twis is, I want an mcron process for > each user I specify in an external file. For example... > > /usr/local/etc/mcron.conf: > $usernames="user1 user2 user3" > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mcron.sh > #!/bin/sh > > # $Id$ > > # PROVIDE: mcron > # REQUIRE: LOGIN > # KEYWORD: FreeBSD shutdown > # > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="mcron" > prefix=/usr/local > command=${prefix}/bin/${name} > mcron_enable=${mcron_enable:-"NO"} > mcron_flags=${mcron_flags-"-d"} > > # Load user names from conf file > # > . ${prefix}/etc/${name}.conf > > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config $name > > for user in ${usernames}; do > mcron_user=${user} > run_rc_command "$1" > done > This does not work because run_rc_command checks to see if the process > is already running before attempting to launch another instance. Are you, by any chance, setting $pidfile to anything that is not shown above? The check_pidfile() check is disabled when $pidfile is empty. > Perhaps this is something best accomplished in /etc/rc.local? Probably. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 06:46:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038316A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:46:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF5543D39 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:46:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ablake@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2F6ktKi021429 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:46:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.135] ([64.14.248.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j2F6krZQ028421 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:46:55 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Adam Michalak Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:46:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: questions regarding $PAGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:46:56 -0000 I am running FreeBSD 5.3-Release I have a few questions regarding the pagers more and less. If I type "man more" at the prompt i get the man page for less are more and less now considered interchangeable? When I do view a file with more my percentage of the file viewed is displayed in the bottom right hand screen. However when I view a manpage the number of bytes viewed as opposed to percentage is displayed at the bottom right hand of the screen. How can i set this so that percentage is displayed by default? my output of echo $PAGER is more. regards, -Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 07:18:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318616A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:18:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92A043D55 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616D434F61B; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C6C34F61A; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:17:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42368C27.7060702@cloudview.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:17:59 -0800 From: John Pettitt Organization: CloudView Photographic User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kyle Jensen References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cutting down on ssh breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:18:01 -0000 Kyle Jensen wrote: >Hi, > >I run a webmail server for a small company, which >is (of course) running FreeBSD 5-stable. I get about >50-100 failed loging attempts via ssh on a daily basis. > >Occasionally, these show up in my daily security digest >with messages like: > >reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for h169-210-68-8.a >dcast.com.tw failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! > >But mostly it's stuff like > >Illegal user postgres from 210.68.8.169 > >What's the best way to cut down on these attempts? >I thought about adding a blacklist to my pf.conf rules >for the pf firewall. > >Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! >Kyle > > > Four suggestions: 1) If you know where your valid ssh logins are going to come from filter out everything else. 2) If you haven't already done so switch to public key authentication on ssh and disable password logins (doesn't stop the attempts but gives peace of mind that they are not going to work) 3) Move your sshd to a non standard port (will stop the scripts and scanners but won't make any difference to a good blackhat) 4) Implement a port knocking strategy (to much hassle in my view but YMMV) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 07:29:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28A916A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:29:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E684343D5A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:29:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (dos.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2F7WF4P000596 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:32:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:33:26 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Thunderbird/1.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD mailinglist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: rc.conf reloaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:30:00 -0000 Hello. I want to reread the rc.conf file without reboot. How does one do that? /etc/netstart restarts the network but /etc/rc.conf does nothing. Is it me or... /.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 07:37:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1081416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:37:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980C43D5C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2F7bSb92935; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "John Pettitt" , "Kyle Jensen" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:37:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42368C27.7060702@cloudview.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Cutting down on ssh breakin attempts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:37:34 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Kyle Jensen wrote: > >> > Four suggestions: > 1) If you know where your valid ssh logins are going to come One suggestion: Don't sweat the small stuff. Your using ssh precisely because the ssh daemon is hardened against attacks, right? Do you put plastic wrap over your scotchguarded sofas? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 08:05:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D3716A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:05:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661443D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:05:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2F84TJc003392; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:04:29 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2F84oLT001050; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:04:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2F84oUE001049; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:04:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:04:50 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20050315080450.GB964@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf reloaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:05:57 -0000 On 2005-03-15 08:33, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello. > > I want to reread the rc.conf file without reboot. Why? What you probably want is to apply some change in the settings of rc.conf. This can usually be done by restarting just the affected components. There *are* a few changes of rc.conf that may ultimately affect too many components and/or services of the running system that a plain reboot may be the best option you have, but you would have to give us more details about the changes you made before we tell you what's the best thing to do. What is it exactly that you changed in rc.conf? > How does one do that? > > /etc/netstart restarts the network but /etc/rc.conf does nothing. True. The rc.conf file doesn't "do" anything. It merely contains options and flags for other startup scripts. Depending on your FreeBSD version, the scripts that are affected by rc.conf's contents are either the /etc/rc.* files (for versions released before FreeBSD 5.3) or /etc/rc.d/* (for 5.3 and newer releases). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 08:10:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA87B16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:10:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4ED43D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:10:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2F8Akb93033; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:10:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dick Hoogendijk" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:10:37 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050314164609.GA1060@lothlorien.nagual.st> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: HP LJ 1100 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:10:43 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On 14 Mar Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >>>> Try Andreas' GREAT printer port, print/apsfilter, which is one of >>>> hte best things in ports. How come it's so completly unknown? > >> Ghostscript supports the HP1100 directly. So there's no need to deal >> with the other printer drivers, which should make it easy for you. >> >> Since you already installed apsfilter (which is unnecessary BTW) just >> run the following: > > I run a hp1100 myself here _and_ use apsfilter. Wouldn't want it any > other way. The OP already said he tried apsfilter and it didn't work. apsfilter is a pre-postscript filter so obviously the OP's problem is something in how ghostscript is being tied into his printer. He needs to fix that first before apsfilter will do anything for him. When troubleshooting, break everything into it's components and attack them one at a time. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 08:40:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC0616A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:40:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD7843D48 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:40:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so2404357wri for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:40:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KTrkDgFzLKaUOlcGHCzFaXV6qUQm8a39cYlP0FJ3D1DZ6brGoozB+BBPjQUGhUHUXdF6BjNrjat8+l8v6XsYYrzYGa5zN311kO07l1xSsFOe3Vy/qDT1VP1i/ISCzv0mGlp/+/2mZDawB8ZtwJSynwBL7Pdc05yatyN3bgZt8yA= Received: by 10.54.10.39 with SMTP id 39mr5533905wrj; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:40:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:40:50 +0200 From: abu khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503141312.53533.ian@codepad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050312095532.C3A1F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503141312.53533.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Getting rid of message: unknown: can't assign resources (port) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: abu khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:40:53 -0000 > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard * > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) * Motherboard resources * ? NO IDEA !!! > unknown: can't assign resources (memory) * Cyrix MediaGX * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Primary IDE Channel * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Primary IDE Channel * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Communications Port * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Standard floppy disk controller * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * "ECP" Printer Port * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Communications Port * > unknown: can't assign resources (port) * Cyrix XpressAUDIO(TM) 16-bit Sound * Google is your friend here I just did a search for CRX0001 and got many hits. I don't that hardware in my system. -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 09:27:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3232816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E624F43D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2F9QbUQ031668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:26:38 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2F9QZLr031666; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:26:35 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:26:34 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050315092634.GT18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> <7b1348cc2feb386f19ba391700245abe@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jPC/Tkukgh9ZDT79" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b1348cc2feb386f19ba391700245abe@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: Aperez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:04 -0000 --jPC/Tkukgh9ZDT79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:55:00AM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >=20 > On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >=20 > >On 2005-03-13 16:53, Bart Silverstrim =20 > >wrote: > > > >On the contrary, there are numerous cases when local patches, specific > >to the distribution of Linux that is used, are used: > > > >https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00050.html > >http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2004-February/=20 > >msg00018.html > > > >Backported fixes are not evil, but they are bad when they are available > >only if you are running "FooLinux version X". >=20 > Just for drivers? I wasn't sure what DM was...are any of these patches = =20 > that were released available as source for other Linux kernels, or are = =20 > these things being released without ever giving out the source to =20 > integrate with the primary Linux kernel tree? Device mapper which is to linux as geom is to freebsd. The code was already part of the official linux 2.6 sources, redhat just wanted to use a 2.4 kernel, but still have the device mapper system up to date with 2.6. >=20 > >>But still, there is one source kernel, and unless the vendors did > >>something proprietary (which I don't believe they're supposed to be > >>allowed to do), you can compile your own kernel with your own set of > >>enabled and disabled features from the Linux kernel source tree > >>whether you're running Red Hat or Debian; it may break if that > >>particular distro is depending on certain features as you have it > >>configured and you fubar the new kernel's config, but it is still a > >>matter of tweaking that configuration to get it working again. > > > >Hardly. Configuration changes will never fix a driver that is only > >available as a patch to the kernel source tree, when the patch fails > >to apply, build or install correctly -- a common case with some drivers > >(i.e. Cisco VPN or SysKonnect). >=20 > You're right, if you have an application that requires modification to = =20 > the kernel then config changes won't fix it. But that isn't the common = =20 > case, and you should be able to take that application and apply it to =20 > the kernel tree source to create the working version, no? Or are they = =20 > distro specific? In the few times I ran into it the "melding" wasn't =20 > distro-specific. The biggest problem with all the various linux kernel is that, since linus chose to make linux be intolerant of binary drivers, you need the exact kernel that a driver was compiled for. Some vendors like nvidia provide a wrapper around their binary driver to avoid this, but many vendors shipping binary-only driver do not as was the case with my wifi card. I have to have one specific kernel of one specific linux distro, neither of which I was using at the time. >=20 > >Let us put aside for a while the blatant error of considering three > >distinct systems as one, when they are just that: three distinct =20 > >systems > >that just happen to share a lot of code and like cooperating on work > >that is a benefit for all three. >=20 > Then it would best be summed up as a difference in opinion over =20 > operations management and organization management. >=20 > >>I can't download the sources for NetBSD's kernel, compile it on my > >>FreeBSD box, and have it work no matter how much tweaking I do to the > >>configuration...if I'm wrong, please someone correct me. > > > >Actually, you can. The NetBSD folks state that only a system =20 > >relatively > >compliant with POSIX is required for cross-building NetBSD on a local, > >non-NetBSD system: > > > >http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/BUILDING?rev=3D1.53&content-=20 > >type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup > >(See the REQUIREMENTS section.) >=20 > No, I didn't mean compile it and deploy it. I mean replace my system's = =20 > kernel with that kernel and have it work. The source trees are =20 > different, the resulting kernel would expect to work on a NetBSD =20 > *system*, not a FreeBSD system with a NetBSD kernel. >=20 > >Redundancy is good from a survival perspective. Diversity is also =20 > >good, > >from an evolutionary perspective. For every bad thing Linus can say > >about having separate teams working on the systems they enjoy working > >with, we can probably come up with htwo reasons why this is good. >=20 > Again, it's a difference in organization and management opinion. >=20 > >Hardly. Otherwise, it would be easy to point a browser to a single, > >central place and browse the history of the Linux kernel from 0.9.x to > >1.x and then to 2.x. The fact that some bits are available in a > >proprietary repository somewhere is not good enough. >=20 > I was under the impression that kernel.org was the authoritative source = =20 > for the Linux kernel. What people are doing on the side was their own = =20 > project. *shrug* I could be wrong :-) kernel.org is the official source of straight vanilla linux, but no distros use vanilla linux, they all have tons of patchs applied to it, some more than others. Even source code device drivers sometimes have trouble compiling with these heavily patch kernels. Each distro has too worry about what security patches their version of the kernel needs. It's not nearly as clean as the way the BSDs do it. >=20 > >In general, it's a nice interview of Linus and very enjoyable to read, > >but I'm afraid he is not right about everything when he talks about the > >BSDs; which is not very surprising, I guess. >=20 > No, but don't discount editing of the interview as a factor too in =20 > accuracy. >=20 > But on the other hand, Linus doesn't really give a flip about BSD. He = =20 > has his own project, and he does (justifiably) have a lot to be proud =20 > of (at the risk of inflating his ego more). He doesn't sound like he's = =20 > really all that involved in distro flamewars or whatnot. So...it's =20 > just another article for people to read :-) --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --jPC/Tkukgh9ZDT79 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCNqpKbTXoRwEYo9IRAgX0AJ9O8fts1RL4bjpa7Qaq7Bcp5Fr1uwCfcHOB vTz5FSqPxGj99E3HN8SU5HA= =/Aup -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jPC/Tkukgh9ZDT79-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 09:39:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A9216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9501F43D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j2F9o2Ta085322; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9DC1362FE; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:39:21 +0000 From: markzero To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-ID: <20050315093921.GA63033@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050312123840.19848c79.alfredoj69@gmail.com> <423346F4.7060007@makeworld.com> <885a1a993c8a666d9d4a5d6ec94031e1@chrononomicon.com> <20050313213436.GL18080@alzatex.com> <12395e66e47f4a9cbbac323fb833a9b3@chrononomicon.com> <20050314123953.GA1198@gothmog.gr> <7b1348cc2feb386f19ba391700245abe@chrononomicon.com> <20050315092634.GT18080@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050315092634.GT18080@alzatex.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 LOGIK005 X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 2A2A7026 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:39:35 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I was under the impression that kernel.org was the authoritative source= =20 > > for the Linux kernel. What people are doing on the side was their own = =20 > > project. *shrug* I could be wrong :-) >=20 > kernel.org is the official source of straight vanilla linux, but no > distros use vanilla linux, they all have tons of patchs applied to it, > some more than others. Even source code device drivers sometimes have > trouble compiling with these heavily patch kernels. Each distro has too > worry about what security patches their version of the kernel needs. > It's not nearly as clean as the way the BSDs do it. Slackware Linux uses a vanilla kernel, it's famed for it. Interestingly enough, you can use NetBSD pkgsrc on Slackware. It's probably the only distro that's clean and plain enough for it to work on... Mark --=20 PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQjatR6faOQ/e/53RAQqsdw/9HFHdfoNV7LhPcTsvUSbdXRXKokfeMc2Z /K6oP+VxkMB2JUpq1482Q+dbmsVSnVeVEZvQB6tH4OHZnEN2BUHbay73L/qrgCps afqbR2yvUfCAEzOR758amaAPS2qRkghBKUW4yYSxRjOFhdDVWfr16RDnPh3q4/gc 5oaelsn7tIVf89OVSqhuoNCut48yxCGm3cL/6zzRVfQMAtYW/QieBVoF52sU1sI1 FwAWMlVhFRy9RFKpEimR9UM7iCPN6geywSmkYXoCG7YosCKDdauBPff0Zc8nK3yH VvmGYwEyvwVVeMI0qW+niwF9mScO0Bme1vV0BV88lO+E/tw8AqjpiWCfOB5ZIbf0 C1Y3yiRuzBOGMZ3+OXXAgTmeJ7abWrorWRvzf3RElBBo+/wZm0UYjQBgTaoBBSKP wQxyhOlH/XikGenX2RZ0/8K+awYxJzPSzsAhcmtDRQBUAeX1beCqcknpuw2q2oyV mJVXpkIbJ+Y+VNItzHo1i1YytOo53n1nAQAPiS8Ir6xROvph1cu3RHXzpIScHBqm VWsJIY6h8GHUKGk8zu6BtwXWrigWFJy079SKPh+qB77tLxlZq0xa2EdGLN/6i8Wj u8okm7QVFlQ2t24GqQjzSo3wNZjRvTUbd3fkXnaHHQTGRHCrt9yidFayxk5SHOEx eLSAznILUqU= =X6fY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 10:03:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBDA16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:03:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C66543D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:03:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 23500 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 10:03:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.28.226]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2005 10:03:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:04:04 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050315110404.3f07df63@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050311200303.73bc0f77@localhost> References: <422a3b4c.6460c00f.48d7.412b@smtp.gmail.com> <20050306195438.29f69e9d@localhost> <20050311200303.73bc0f77@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: gabriel Subject: Re: D-Link NIC. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:03:58 -0000 Fabian Keil wrote: > gabriel wrote: > > > Thats a good script. How did you install the ndis driver/wrapper? - > > Cause I think some of the problem may be there. > > I copied the files "w22n50.sys" and "w22n51.inf" out of the > Windows partition to /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis, > > ndiscvt -i w22n51.inf -s w22n50.sys ndis_driver_data.h > make install > > did the rest. After updating to 5.4-PRERELEASE yesterday and trying to rebuild if_ndis, I noticed that the above is incomplete. The correct way to generate the ndis_driver_data.h is: ndiscvt -i w22n51.inf -s w22n50.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h Otherwise the header is printed to stdout. Regards Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 10:08:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEFE16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:08:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0425C43D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:08:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.42]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DB8yB-0001bB-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:08:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4236B40C.100@axis.nl> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:08:12 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: Subject: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found error when installinglogrotate port - how to solve this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:08:28 -0000 Hi all, I have run into a weird issue, which for some reason doesn't want to get resolved. I am using FreeBSD 5.2.1 Release i386, and my ports tree is recent (via /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile). However, when trying to install the logrotate port (i.e. version logrotate-3.7_3 - located in /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate/), I keep getting the following error: ********************************************************************** millennics# make install ===> Building for logrotate-3.7_3 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate. ********************************************************************** Now, I tried perform a 'make clean' and a 'make depend' as well, but all to no avail. Searching on the Internet suggests that this is due to 'gettext'. So, I tried reinstalling that as well, but still, no luck. The installed gettext packages are: ********************************************************************** millennics# pkg_info | grep gette gettext-0.14.1 GNU gettext package p5-gettext-1.03 Message handling functions ********************************************************************** I guess this is basically o.k., right?!? Soooooo, the question then winds down to how to resolve this. Can anyone tell me how I can fix this problem? Cheers! Olafo PS: down below I've copied the last part of the 'make reinstall' output of gettext, as well as the output of the subsequent 'make install' output of logrotate... ********************************************************************** mkdir -p -- . /usr/local/share/doc/gettext/examples install -o root -g wheel -m 444 installpaths /usr/local/share/doc/gettext/examples/installpaths cd /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-runtime/man && make uninstall-html for file in gettext.1.html ngettext.1.html envsubst.1.html gettext.3.html ngettext.3.html textdomain.3.html bindtextdomain.3.html bind_textdomain_codeset.3.html; do rm -f /usr/local/share/doc/gettext/$file; done cd /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/man && make uninstall-html for file in msgcmp.1.html msgfmt.1.html msgmerge.1.html msgunfmt.1.html xgettext.1.html msgattrib.1.html msgcat.1.html msgcomm.1.html msgconv.1.html msgen.1.html msgexec.1.html msgfilter.1.html msggrep.1.html msginit.1.html msguniq.1.html gettextize.1.html autopoint.1.html; do rm -f /usr/local/share/doc/gettext/$file; done install-info --quiet /usr/local/info/autosprintf.info /usr/local/info/dir install-info --quiet /usr/local/info/gettext.info /usr/local/info/dir ===> Compressing manual pages for gettext-0.14.1 ===> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib ===> Registering installation for gettext-0.14.1 millennics# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate/ millennics# make install ===> Building for logrotate-3.7_3 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate. ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 11:37:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CD816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:37:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B9F43D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DBAMA-000C4s-UC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:37:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:37:02 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315113702.GA46171@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:37:05 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Please forgive the FAQ - this is really baffling me now. I am trying to get the serial console running on a new server. The BIOS is set up the same as the other machines where the console works fine, BAUD rate, flow control etc all as expected. The BIOS includes a setting to control console redirect - it's currently set to "Boot loader", the other two options being disable or "Always" - we tried this latter yesterday, but to no effect. /boot/loader.rc contains this: include /boot/loader.4th start boot-conf -Dh /boot/loader.conf is empty. I have altered /etc/ttys to show this: ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure sio0's entry in /boot/device.hints looks like this: hint.sio.0.at=3D"isa" hint.sio.0.port=3D"0x3F8" hint.sio.0.flags=3D"0x10" hint.sio.0.irq=3D"4" We tried 0x30 in flags as well, but to avail. It is running 5.3-RELEASE-p5, using GENERIC. The machine boots - you see the BIOS POST, the SATA controller comes up, then you see FreeBSD's boot messages on the console. As soon as the kernel launches, we get the login: prompt and then nothing. So, we know the hardware works; the problem is something I am doing with the kernel config. As I said, this setup is the same as a machine running the same hardware, that is known to be working. I have read the appropriate bits in the Handbook and the FAQ, as well as a couple of other sites, and have set up serial consoles on numerous occasions in the past. I'm just having a major brain fart this morning. Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong? Cheers, Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCNsjehvzwOpChvo8RAgJmAJ464WwRofU306zSLKl7r7xVfn/RiQCgo6HW xp5ahsKCMTOS2hR9Y5c7ukw= =wnLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 12:15:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B5316A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:15:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2EA43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:15:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Chris.Weadick@xerox.com) Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.221]) j2FCF1NB019207; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:15:06 -0500 Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2FCEiYg020239; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:14:44 -0500 Received: from usa0300gw04.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw04.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.46])j2FCEZOY020219; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:14:39 -0500 Received: from can6600mf01.na.xerox.net ([13.226.169.52]) by usa0300gw04.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:14:39 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: <54F3CA2E0F3B014FB6505B0BB177594CCB3C1F@can6600mf01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: all links broken Thread-Index: AcUpWI0d5vv4Hvc5RkCa9g/JLYVBwA== From: "Weadick, Chris" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 12:14:39.0104 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F7BC000:01C52958] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: all links broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:15:07 -0000 http://doc.ctrlaltdel.ch/freebsd/tutorials/fonts/fonts.html =20 not sure who owns this site or if it was just snaffued... but the links for font download locations are likely not what was expected. Most are broken and one forwards you to a few questionable sites. =20 please drop me a note when you get the page fixed, made for some interesting reading... well before the links. =20 thanks chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 12:29:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689C416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:29:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8C43D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emccoy@haystacks.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-98-109-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[24.98.109.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050315122907014001hdb7e>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:29:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4236D50F.5050307@haystacks.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:29:03 -0500 From: Eric McCoy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daniel quinn References: <200503141152.55407.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: <200503141152.55407.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ipfw and nmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:29:08 -0000 daniel quinn wrote: > i've been experimenting with ipfw since moving some of my machines from linux > to freebsd and i've run across an oddity wrt nmap and freebsd firewalls. it > doesn't seem to work and the activity isn't logged either. > > the firewall is working though. ssh goes through, while other ports are being > blocked (and logged). i've confirmed this with telnet. but nmap still comes > up empty. i'd like to be able to do a proper portscan, but is this a feature > with ipfw or a lack of feature in nmap? I am not entirely sure what problems you are seeing. It sounds like you are saying that the firewall works properly, and nmap correctly identifies open/closed/filtered ports, but you are getting nothing in your ipfw log indicating that a scan is happening. Is that correct? If so, the "problem" is that nmap has a variety of scans which are designed not to be caught by firewall logs. If you try a TCP connect() port scan (-sT I think) it will show up in the firewall's logs. If you want to catch all manner of port scans, you will have to use something like Snort. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:00:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FFB16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:00:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E52243D5A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2FD0Vsh019110 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2FD0SFi001155; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:00:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9a59e9089e0ba18e22d7a0f4ffde466a@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:00:27 -0500 To: Adam Michalak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions regarding $PAGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:00:32 -0000 On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:46 AM, Adam Michalak wrote: > I have a few questions regarding the pagers more and less. > If I type "man more" at the prompt i get the man page for less > are more and less now considered interchangeable? FreeBSD might actually ship with less configured to replace more. > When I do view a file with more my percentage of the file > viewed is displayed in the bottom right hand screen. > > However when I view a manpage the number of bytes viewed > as opposed to percentage is displayed at the bottom right > hand of the screen. How can i set this so that percentage is > displayed by default? Consider adding something like this to your shell startup: LESS='-cdegiMMs -h20 -j4' export LESS [ If you use tcsh, use setenv instead. ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9288616A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:11:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF3B43D48 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:11:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDE00K3R9YFLL@smtp14.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:11:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FDA2rs001663; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:10:02 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FDA1GJ001662; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:10:01 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:10:01 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <1110852766l.3253l.2l@BARTON> To: Jason Henson Message-id: <20050315131001.GA794@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050314161349.GA763@Alex.lan> <1110852766l.3253l.2l@BARTON> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:11:05 -0000 Windows was able to boot afhter I installed it. I never touched boot.ini. The content would have been: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn I now use a different solution. Instead of the freebsd bootloader (boot0). I now use the windows bootloader. I copied boot1 to c:\freebsd.bin. Then modified windows boot.ini as follow: [boot loader] timeout=10 default=c:\freebsd.bin [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn c:\freebsd.bin="FreeBSD 5" This works for me. I still wonder why the stuff below didn't work. In the past I would do this with /stand/sysinstall. But I don't dare to do this with FreeBSD 5 because of drive geometric warnings. On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:12:46AM +0000, Jason Henson wrote: > What is in your windows boot.ini file? > > > On 03/14/05 11:13:49, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I've recently reinstalled windows. Windows removes the MBR as you > >know. > >So ather I installed it I set partion 1 (FreeBSD) active and > >rebooted. > >Then I followed the handbook and did fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0. Now > >I > >get the orginal screen afther booting. Only it beeps when I press F2 > >(Windows). I can mount the second partion on FreeBSD, but cant boot. > >Any > >ideas to what I'm missing here? > > > ># fdisk > >******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > >parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > >cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > > >Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > >parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > >cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > > >Media sector size is 512 > >Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > >Information from DOS bootblock is: > >The data for partition 1 is: > >sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > start 63, size 20971377 (10239 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > > end: cyl 1023/ head 104/ sector 63 > >The data for partition 2 is: > >sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)) > > start 20980890, size 20948760 (10228 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 0/ sector 1; > > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > >The data for partition 3 is: > >sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > start 41942880, size 446454288 (217995 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 210/ sector 1; > > end: cyl 1023/ head 80/ sector 63 > >The data for partition 4 is: > > > > > >-- > >Alex > > > >Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your > >reply. > >WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > >unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:34:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC99A16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:34:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC7843D39 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:34:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so5843wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:34:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Rew7n9yorHsJj4RtEAvtFQ7bD0/nfov8EqYmG80fU1jYfjYY/xgySbIQbh80f4BzPTUrOeImj7NCO1PZ7i7sdfxmKYjG0SN6ujgDNmej8pH/ZZLnVYWEVwM0Zk6vzQi6l4Tr9bS5xPA6I6sT4X3loR8+NDD3RIFvydo8N5UIAlo= Received: by 10.38.72.35 with SMTP id u35mr582512rna; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:34:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:34:36 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Alejandro Pulver In-Reply-To: <20050314195312.7f6149cb@ale.varnet.bsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050314195312.7f6149cb@ale.varnet.bsd> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: dd on samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:34:43 -0000 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:53:12 -0300, Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > Hello, Hi there, > > I have free space between two slices to I tried to do the same as you. Thank you! > When you have the image of a slice generated by 'dd', it contains its > partitions and filesystems. First you may want to make that slice image > (file) to appear in '/dev', so you can manipulate its partitions. This > is done (in FreeBSD 5.X, if you use 4.X use'vnconfig', there are > examples in the Handbook) like with a CD-ROM ISO image (see the > Handbook->Storage): > > mdconfig -a -t vnode -f -u > > It will appear in '/dev' as 'md', with its partitions, like the > following: > > md1a > md1c > [...] > > So you can mount them, dump them, etc., like with a slice (in fact, > it is an image of a slice). > > When you end what you want to do with it, do (after unmounting the > partitions): > > mdconfig -d -u > > Best Regards, > Ale > Great, this is what I was searching for! Thank you once more! Best regards, -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:52:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859A116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:52:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A24443D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:52:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24441 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 13:52:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2005 13:52:51 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9992A84; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:52:50 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: =?iso-8859-1?q?P=E1sztor_Rich=E1rd?= References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050314004626.0270e450@mailbox.hu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Mar 2005 08:52:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050314004626.0270e450@mailbox.hu> Message-ID: <44hdjd818t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem creation with integrated bad-block detection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:52:52 -0000 P=E1sztor Rich=E1rd writes: > I wonder if it would be possible to implement under freeebsd an > interesting feature > which can be found in linux: >=20 > mkfs.ext2(8) > ....... > -c > Check the device for bad blocks before creating the file system. If > this option is specified twice, then a slower, destructive, read-write > test is used instead of a fast read-only test. > ... FreeBSD has some tools in this area (see, for example, badsect(8)), but they have largely atrophied. > I searched the archive for this subject, and i found that simple > answer that modern hard drives have > the so called spare sectors, and if they cant do these reallocations > transparently because they > ran out of those reserved sectors -> throw the drive into the trash. > But what abou using freebsd on older machines with hard drives that > dont support spare sectors? > Having a few bad sectors doesnt mean that a 4-5 Gb driver is useless > because one isnt able to mark those > few sectors. If the disk is multiple gigabytes, then it's unlikely to be old enough to lack spare sector support. IDE has been standard for a *long* time now, and from my experience, pretty much *every* IDE drive *ever* has come with block remapping turned on by default. See the FAQ entry on the subject: What do I do when I have bad blocks on my hard drive? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#AWRE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:54:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F0016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:54:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0D743D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:54:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2FDrQv21470; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:53:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503151353.j2FDrQv21470@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl (Alex de Kruijff) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:53:25 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050315131001.GA794@Alex.lan> from "Alex de Kruijff" at Mar 15, 2005 02:10:01 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Jason Henson Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:54:18 -0000 > > Windows was able to boot afhter I installed it. I never touched > boot.ini. The content would have been: > > [boot loader] > timeout=30 > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS > [operating systems] > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > > I now use a different solution. Instead of the freebsd bootloader > (boot0). I now use the windows bootloader. I copied boot1 to > c:\freebsd.bin. Then modified windows boot.ini as follow: > > [boot loader] > timeout=10 > default=c:\freebsd.bin > [operating systems] > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > c:\freebsd.bin="FreeBSD 5" > > This works for me. I still wonder why the stuff below didn't work. In > the past I would do this with /stand/sysinstall. But I don't dare to do > this with FreeBSD 5 because of drive geometric warnings. > Remember there are two boot blocks, so to speak. There is the MBR that lets you choose which slice to boot. There is only one of those per disk and it lives in "sector 0" of the disk. The MBR generally has a standard calling sequence (that the Bios calls) and sets things up to a fairly standard condition and looks for standard appearing boot sectors in slices and makes a standard call to the selected slice's boot sector. Almost any MBR that knows how to recognize a standard boot sector in a slice and lets you choose between them if there are more than one can be used interchangeably. Then there is the boot block with the actual boot loader that starts pulling the OS from the bootable partition. On a multi boot disk there are several - one per each bootable slice and they live in the boot sector of each slice. Those are specific to the OS they are booting. Though their calling sequence is standard, what they have to do to load and start their own OS is not. I am guessing that you managed to overwrite or damage the MS slice' boot sector while you were doing things, or didn't get it written to the slice properly when you reloaded or something like that. Even though you put the MBR back with FreeBSD's fdisk, did you also make sure that the MS slice had its own boot loader? Anyway you did when you put the MS boot loader back. So it works now. ////jerry > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:12:46AM +0000, Jason Henson wrote: > > What is in your windows boot.ini file? > > > > > > On 03/14/05 11:13:49, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >I've recently reinstalled windows. Windows removes the MBR as you > > >know. > > >So ather I installed it I set partion 1 (FreeBSD) active and > > >rebooted. > > >Then I followed the handbook and did fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0. Now > > >I > > >get the orginal screen afther booting. Only it beeps when I press F2 > > >(Windows). I can mount the second partion on FreeBSD, but cant boot. > > >Any > > >ideas to what I'm missing here? > > > > > ># fdisk > > >******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > > >parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > > >cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > > > > >Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > > >parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > > >cylinders=484521 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > > > > >Media sector size is 512 > > >Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > > >Information from DOS bootblock is: > > >The data for partition 1 is: > > >sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > > start 63, size 20971377 (10239 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > > > end: cyl 1023/ head 104/ sector 63 > > >The data for partition 2 is: > > >sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)) > > > start 20980890, size 20948760 (10228 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 0/ sector 1; > > > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > > >The data for partition 3 is: > > >sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > > > start 41942880, size 446454288 (217995 Meg), flag 80 (active) > > > beg: cyl 1023/ head 210/ sector 1; > > > end: cyl 1023/ head 80/ sector 63 > > >The data for partition 4 is: > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Alex > > > > > >Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your > > >reply. > > >WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > >unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alex > > Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. > WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 13:59:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8920016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:59:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311BD43D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:59:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31673 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 13:59:21 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2005 13:59:21 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BDFE482; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:59:20 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Omer Faruk Sen References: <20050314091912.28051.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Mar 2005 08:59:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050314091912.28051.qmail@istanbul.enderunix.org> Message-ID: <44d5u180xz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after init messeages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:59:22 -0000 Omer Faruk Sen writes: > Hi, Is it possible to disable messages that was given by rc_ng to the > console? Well, at least you could edit the scripts. Look at rc.conf(5), though: maybe setting rc_info would do what you want? Personally, I think it's a better idea to just use a different console and let your normal console get the debug output. > Maybe by disabling console entry in ttys file ? No, that would be, um, unpleasant. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:17:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7AB16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:17:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirapoint1.tis.cwru.edu (mirapoint1.TIS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.104.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A016E43D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ttt@cwru.edu) Received: from [129.22.151.155] (tagon.ENGINEERING.CWRU.Edu [129.22.151.155]) by mirapoint1.tis.cwru.edu (MOS 3.5.4-GR) with ESMTP id EET61126 (AUTH ttt); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:17:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4236EE85.1000503@cwru.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:17:41 -0500 From: Tom Trelvik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200503141646.59540.ringworm01@gmail.com> <200503141710.01524.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:17:44 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and reattach to the screen session later to see how it went. Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:20:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E6016A4D0 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:20:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1C343D53 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:20:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DBCtt-0001dG-PQ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:20:01 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:20:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1118.209.87.176.4.1110896405.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:20:05 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "Tom Trelvik" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:20:07 -0000 > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd > like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and reattach > to the screen session later to see how it went. > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > What exactly is a screen session? /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:27:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E31E16A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D7643D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4888 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 14:27:06 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Mar 2005 14:27:06 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C7BED82; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:27:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Andreas Davour References: <42326F4D.70008@daleco.biz> <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> <20050314153532.GA825@Alex.lan> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Mar 2005 09:27:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <448y4p7znq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:27:07 -0000 Andreas Davour writes: > I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel > without switching on any explicit support for pf. > > Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references > to pf in my startup scripts. The startup scripts support pf, but do not require it. > Is pf some kind of mandatory part of the base system these days? I > thought it was some kind of alternative to IPFW, but now I'm no longer > so sure. It is a part of the base system. It is always present just like ipfw, but its use is not required. > Can someone tell me if it's ok to just use IPFW on my STABLE system, > or is there some other knobs in the kernelconfig I should toggle to > turn off pf support? You are fine the way you are. I recommend letting mergemaster update the default pf startup files, so that it won't ask about them next time, but it doesn't really matter if you're not using pf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DDE16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4824F43D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:38:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35] (may be forged)) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2FEcRoR009412; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:38:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FEcLTn067189; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:38:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FEcFZZ067188; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:38:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:38:15 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050315143815.GA67147@polands.org> References: <20050314215615.GM65944@polands.org> <20050315061917.GB42670@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050315061917.GB42670@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.subr startup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:38:55 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:19:17AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-14 15:56, Doug Poland wrote: > > > > I'm running 5.3-STABLE and I want to write a startup script for > > ports/sysutils/mcron. The twis is, I want an mcron process for > > each user I specify in an external file. For example... > > ... snip ... > > > This does not work because run_rc_command checks to see if the process > > is already running before attempting to launch another instance. > > Are you, by any chance, setting $pidfile to anything that is not shown > above? The check_pidfile() check is disabled when $pidfile is empty. > no > > Perhaps this is something best accomplished in /etc/rc.local? > > Probably. > That's what I did. Not as elegant, but quick, easy, and it works. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:45:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A4116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:45:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A5C43D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDE00MK2EBPMEG0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:45:26 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4F3E32CE75B; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:24 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4236EE85.1000503@cwru.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4236EE85.1000503@cwru.edu> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:45:29 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote: > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd > like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and > reattach to the screen session later to see how it went. > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > > Tom Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this? Thank you, -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 14:53:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC5F16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:53:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbit.3logic.net (hobbit.3logic.net [195.38.16.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3B1743D53 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:53:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua) Received: (qmail 32290 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 16:53:39 +0200 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 32226, pid: 32283, t: 1.1589s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.83/m:29/d:746 spam: 2.63 Received: from du-226.3logic.net (HELO proxyplus.universe) (195.38.16.226) by hobbit.3logic.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 16:53:38 +0200 Received: from mobile.Upbank.kherson [10.168.0.33] by Proxy+; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:14 +0200 for Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:14 +0200 From: NetAdmin Organization: Upb X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <424178835.20050315165514@upb.ks.ua> To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on hobbit.3logic.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Subject: mounting network share problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: NetAdmin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:53:45 -0000 Hello, FreeBSD support team, I have some problems with network configuration in FreeBSD. My task is to mount network share on Win2003 server (Network with domain) to some folder, for example, /mnt I wrote: # mount_nfs server:share /mnt and see error: [udp] RPC: RPC timeout But my computer "sees" all computers in domain when ping some of them... -- Best regards, NetAdmin mailto:NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:02:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DDB16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from diri.bris.ac.uk (diri.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24C043D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by diri.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DBDYp-0004md-9e; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:27 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DBDYe-0006mS-Ju; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4236EE85.1000503@cwru.edu> <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -2.8 X-Spam-Level: -- cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:35 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote: > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? > > > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd > > like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and > > reattach to the screen session later to see how it went. > > > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > > > > Tom > > Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this? He's referring to the misc/screen port. The man page is pretty comprehensive. It basically gives you "virtual" terminal sessions that you can attach, detach and reattach a client to without disturbing the underlying session. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287864 or +44 (0)117 9287088 http://ioctl.org/jan/ Random act of violence against bread: whole pint. -- extract from the "Hawk the Slayer" drinking game From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:03:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956316A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:03:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A33D43D39 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher.hodgins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2092979wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=A84r9XpTf7/TwY7w9kMbpFwN0eHWAPKfrDMMNXF8cdMetBg+Rj5XftwOeertEf+eUiXw1FtkHMsJS5tKux5LjxEbb6BgfhvqzaBtv+KvU86o5I5UToHSLkQYYPwd86sc/Z479aadMUuNiLZbuJ9nk4uSe7GNlgxHMVPnJLNQ378= Received: by 10.54.15.2 with SMTP id 2mr1023818wro; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.65 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <63c3899e050315070241754cce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:02:57 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4236EE85.1000503@cwru.edu> <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Hodgins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:03:01 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:24 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote: > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ? > > > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd > > like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and > > reattach to the screen session later to see how it went. > > > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > > > > Tom > > Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this? > > Thank you, > > -Mike You might find this helpful. Screen is very useful. http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9142/sam0405f/ Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:14:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182BF16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD62F43D55 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2FFEdYP074153; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:14:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:14:38 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Adam Michalak Message-ID: <20050315151438.GB67769@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions regarding $PAGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:44 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 14), Adam Michalak said: > I am running FreeBSD 5.3-Release > > I have a few questions regarding the pagers more and less. If I type > "man more" at the prompt i get the man page for less are more and > less now considered interchangeable? > > When I do view a file with more my percentage of the file viewed is > displayed in the bottom right hand screen. > > However when I view a manpage the number of bytes viewed as opposed > to percentage is displayed at the bottom right hand of the screen. > How can i set this so that percentage is displayed by default? Manpages are stored compressed, so 'less' always gets input from stdin and doesn't know the size of the document until you have hit the bottom. Load up a manpage, hit End, then Home, and you will see that it now displays a percentage. Searching for a string that doesn't exist will also cause it to read the entire file and start giving you a percentage. > my output of echo $PAGER is more. In that case, don't hit End, since when 'less' is emulating 'more', it exits itself when you hit the end of the document :) 'more' is a Posix standard command and isn't supposed to do that, though, so don't count on that behaviour. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:14:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BA216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF6A43D58 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDE00ML0FOUMOH0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:14:55 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 58FC72CE75B; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:14:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:14:53 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <63c3899e050315070241754cce@mail.gmail.com> To: Chris Hodgins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503150714.53880.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> <63c3899e050315070241754cce@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:14:55 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 07:02 am, Chris Hodgins wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:24 -0800, Michael C. Shultz > > wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote: > > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading > > > > ? > > > > > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running > > > that you'd like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen > > > session and reattach to the screen session later to see how it > > > went. > > > > > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > > > > > > Tom > > > > Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do > > this? > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Mike > > You might find this helpful. Screen is very useful. > > http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9142/sam0405f/ > > Chris Thanks. Just read over the site/bookmarked it, very good information! -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:19:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:19:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809DE43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:19:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDE003RIFWKJS50@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:19:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1B632CE75B; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:19:31 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jan Grant Message-id: <200503150719.31582.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200503150645.24979.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:19:34 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 07:02 am, Jan Grant wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote: > > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading > > > > ? > > > > > > A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that > > > you'd like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session > > > and reattach to the screen session later to see how it went. > > > > > > Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend. =) > > > > > > Tom > > > > Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do > > this? > > He's referring to the misc/screen port. The man page is pretty > comprehensive. It basically gives you "virtual" terminal sessions > that you can attach, detach and reattach a client to without > disturbing the underlying session. Thanks Jan for the port name. Chris Hodgins just provided a good link with information about screen, it is nice to know the portname as well. :) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:32:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F7616A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3519E43D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:57 +0000 Message-ID: <42370004.5060506@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:20 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludo Koren References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> In-Reply-To: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 15:32:57.0682 (UTC) FILETIME=[4396AB20:01C52974] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:23 -0000 Ludo Koren wrote: ># /sbin/dump -Lu0 -B 41943040 -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr > > > I would guess that your tape drive does hardware compression in which case the amount of data which fits on a tape is variable. In such a case you can't tell dump how big the tape is -- I haven't used options like -B since 1600bpi reel-to-reel tapes, except in my day you specified how many feet of tape you had :-) from man dump -a ``auto-size''. Bypass all tape length considerations, and enforce writing until an end-of-media indication is returned. This fits best for most modern tape drives. Use of this option is particularly recommended when appending to an existing tape, or using a tape drive with hardware compression (where you can never be sure about the compression ratio). Don't know -L, must be a 5.x thing. Try: /sbin/dump -Lu0 -a -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr I use -b 64 as well. Use cpio/tar at your peril as they may not do devices right and may not understand filesystem flags. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:35:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5B216A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC8BE43D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 21387 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 15:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 15:35:26 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:36:10 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: NetAdmin Message-ID: <20050315123610.090c0fd5@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <424178835.20050315165514@upb.ks.ua> References: <424178835.20050315165514@upb.ks.ua> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting network share problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:28 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:14 +0200 NetAdmin wrote: > Hello, FreeBSD support team, > > I have some problems with network configuration in FreeBSD. > My task is to mount network share on Win2003 server > (Network with domain) to some folder, for example, /mnt > > I wrote: > # mount_nfs server:share /mnt > > and see error: > [udp] RPC: RPC timeout > > But my computer "sees" all computers in domain when ping some of > them... > > -- > Best regards, > NetAdmin mailto:NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua > Hello, Windows does not use NFS (natively), but it uses SMB networks (SMB is the protocol). NFS usually comes with UNIX like systems (Linux, *BSD, etc.). The tool (server/client) for interacting with Windows networks is Samba. It is available in the ports collection as 'net/samba' (version 2) or 'net/samba3' (version 3). The Samba version has nothing to do with the protocol version, so you can install the one you want. The manual page samba(7) lists all the client/server tools provided by the Samba suite. It installs some documentation at '/usr/local/share/doc/samba/'. For more information about Samba (docs, exmaples, etc.): http://www.samba.org/ To configure a Samba server there are basic instructions at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-samba.html But if you just want to mount a SMB share, you can use the type 'smbfs' with mount (no port installation required). Alternatively you can use the client programs that come with Samba. Exmaple: mount -t smbfs //user@server/share /mnt or mount_smbfs //user@server/share /mnt See mount_smbfs(8) for more information (IP, WORKGROUP, etc.). Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:47:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D30143D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871A3C133; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:47:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3228.216.220.59.169.1110901675.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <4236539A.3090102@163.com> References: <4235CEA6.7020202@163.com> <2907.216.220.59.169.1110825785.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <4236408B.3090107@163.com> <200503142201.05764.ean@hedron.org> <4236539A.3090102@163.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:47:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "heccj" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox share profile in freebsd and windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:56 -0000 > Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 11:01: >> On March 14, 2005 08:55 pm, heccj wrote: >> >>>Ean Kingston said the following on 03/15/05 02:43: >>> >>>>>Perhaps this is not proper site to place this question,but i just meet >>>>>this problem! >>>>> >>>>>I want to share my firefox 1.0.1 profile in windows xp and freebsd >>>>> 5.3,i >>>>>can run with:firefox -safe-mode,it will freeze when i >>>>>use:firefox,obviousely,it's because of the extensions.When you setup >>>>>extensions in windows xp,firefox can't start in freebsd,when you setup >>>>>extensions in freebsd,firefox can't start in windows!Why? >>>> >>>>Why? Because Windows XP and FreeBSD are completely different operating >>>>systems. Their binaries are not compatible. >>>> >>>> >>>>>How to resovle >>>>>it? >>>> >>>>If you can figure out how to keep the extensions directories separate >>>>while keeping the rest of the preferences the same it should work. >>>> >>>>At the worst, you could export your bookmarks from one and import them >>>>into the other. Then you would just have to go through the preferences >>>>and make sure the settings are the same otherwise. >>> >>>The bookmarks and history or other data can share correctly, >> >> Good. >> >>>just >>>extesions!Some extensions can setup into the firefox program dir in >>>windows(can in freebsd?), >> >> >> I'm not sure what you are trying to say. > just extensions can't work correctly.If all the extension can setup at > firefox main direcotory,this is not a problem,i can setup in windows > and freebsd individually.Unfortunetly,only seral extension can setup > like that! You might have to start messing around in the firefox configuration/property files to get that to work. Unfortunately, that is beyond my capabilities. I think they are all text files so you should be able to edit them with vi. >> >> >>>but most just setup into the profile extesions >>>dir. >> >> >> I believe you can simply move the extension to the global extensions >> directory >> and restart Firefox. > I have tried,if the extesions at profile directory are moved into > firefox's main directory,firefox can not find this extensions at all. >> >> If you try it, make a note of which extensions you moved because you >> might >> have to move them back. >> >> >>>If all the extension can select setup dir at setup time,perhaps this >>>problem can be resolved. >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 15:53:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FA816A4D7 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:53:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E25C43D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.wirth@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so9257wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:53:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=AY6J7KiABQT0bAkLnkcnUTgm9x8+OfU3xq6Vw0U0/guADhUKwrgLDO9XNJN26bHW8gsk/xru5eRR1XWxOHdDBjnVQRzaqMnE6xKkY7J/bRw0WcoWFn7khKpnKgaqTBxoBZe8U9F0ei4cxfcez5DhlxfWFCafYW+wnq2iTn/DaKA= Received: by 10.38.150.41 with SMTP id x41mr745374rnd; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.181.68 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:53:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2cf69205031507533631ce04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:53:42 -0500 From: Jeff Wirth To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> cc: FreeBSD mailinglist Subject: Re: rc.conf reloaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff Wirth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:53:48 -0000 > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:33:26 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello. > > I want to reread the rc.conf file without reboot. > How does one do that? > > /etc/netstart restarts the network but /etc/rc.conf > does nothing. > > Is it me or... FAQs for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#REREAD-RC Recent thread on freebsd-questions: (reload rc.conf without rebooting) http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-March/thread.html#79339 -jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:03:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883E516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0389E43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1936wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:03:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JJ03tXYPRj+QbExKmpvVVprKsqYNNQ3yWevEas1kjl2R/FLnZCiuxnmUrHqSNMLVOMqfdNPJcAfjUH0Arr/s81tfreZQIml3cwVm16ZHHspxjv6ZQc0t7QYHKaAa5E81Wr4XnlGz0JEuB33pSN2I2xazsNOkHgzEHSkCudiipl4= Received: by 10.38.68.47 with SMTP id q47mr704016rna; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:03:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:03:08 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:19 -0000 error xserver cant find default font 'fixed' So what does your magical glass bowl tell you about this error and how to fix it so i can startup my xserver again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FAD16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:08:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (argent.heraldsnet.org [64.83.41.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE5A43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: from mail.scadian.net (localhost.scadian.net [IPv6:::1]) by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0DC405; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.221.197.136 (SquirrelMail authenticated user blaise) by mail.scadian.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:08:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <46530.128.221.197.136.1110902918.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> In-Reply-To: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> References: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:08:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Jim Trigg" To: "Madhusudan Singh" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dovecot is broken in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:08:39 -0000 On Mon, March 14, 2005 11:43 pm, Madhusudan Singh said: > Hi > > Just want to report that dovecot seems to be broken : > > ===> Returning to build of dovecot-0.99.14 > ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: sasl2.2 - found > ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found > ===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found [snip] > install: /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap: No > such > file or directory > *** Error code 71 It looks to me like the problem must be in the ldap integration; I just upgraded my copy last night with no problems, and do use sasl but not ldap. Jim -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /"\ Hostmaster, Huie Kin family website \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Verger and System Administrator, X HELP CURE HTML MAIL All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:22:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:22:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66E43D54 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:22:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so8600wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:22:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kp+TKcGE0ATJPhVz54Qr6+qpB34EsMgTybV3J4an46sVAWE4BgS6vAjTVqR7yUfEv0qqzcCXR29AduR2VX71RD1/BV+JzGKM6sgPV18p2wuNrmPHGbguFTXlpSeIA5uSRvPJKSFqgK8jE5el9So2NTCHbPiLiWilSwMGagZj0t4= Received: by 10.54.25.62 with SMTP id 62mr341475wry; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.73 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:22:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e050315082264205b14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:22:20 +0000 From: Martin Hepworth To: Christian Tischler In-Reply-To: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42356A73.40609@myunix.net> cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd 4.x remote server instable... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hepworth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:22:29 -0000 Hi could be PSU or CPU fan problems. I'd check those two first..yes I know it's a pain, but maybe the local people could crack open the case and see if the CPU fan is OK (going round well and not noisy). --- Martin On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:41:55 +0100, Christian Tischler wrote: > Hi, > I take care of an remote 4.x server and everything worked fine for over > an year, but now the box gets unreachable every now and then, but I have > no clue why this could be. > My question is what kind of logging facility I could run, I addition to > the standart out of the box ones, that could tell me what leads to these > "crashes"? > Sorry for the poor description, but that is all I know, too. > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:23:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:23:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AF243D41 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1160wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:23:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=E6gSN2wV5yJ/H+r+WKZvRk6JfezH7DTA+QKfHAWg8JoyCIyLC8U6gO16lIKB4c+qeXvWZ5OxW3tACuvdZIHv2dj5hTikfyEUIF9jwK1VowvgBVW2xPKWSRt06wxbHDURRPANcg593VxqaFQTy1YFgwGSAzSd7fngtPb9i44S+qI= Received: by 10.54.62.20 with SMTP id k20mr3976106wra; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from BUSH-THREE-FIFTY-SIX.MIT.EDU ([18.82.6.101]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 43sm1383556wri.2005.03.15.08.23.56; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:24:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> <46530.128.221.197.136.1110902918.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> In-Reply-To: <46530.128.221.197.136.1110902918.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151124.45414.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: dovecot is broken in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:23:59 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:08, Jim Trigg wrote: > On Mon, March 14, 2005 11:43 pm, Madhusudan Singh said: > > Hi > > > > Just want to report that dovecot seems to be broken : > > > > =3D=3D=3D> Returning to build of dovecot-0.99.14 > > =3D=3D=3D> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: sasl2.2 - found > > =3D=3D=3D> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - fo= und > > =3D=3D=3D> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found > > [snip] > > > install: /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap: No > > such > > file or directory > > *** Error code 71 > > It looks to me like the problem must be in the ldap integration; I just > upgraded my copy last night with no problems, and do use sasl but not > ldap. > > Jim Thanks for your response. However, any attempt to clean it, remove gnutls (pkg_delete) and install it again fails with : =3D=3D=3D>=A0=A0dovecot-0.99.14=A0Currently=A0incompatible=A0with=A0securit= y/gnutls. I do not have gnutls installed now (just removed it). Why should I get this message (even after make clean and make distclean) ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:31:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC3916A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D1AB43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@68.248.226.120 with plain) by smtp805.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 16:31:32 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gert Cuykens Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:30:44 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151030.44678.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> cc: "Michael C. Shultz" Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:31:35 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 10:03 am, Gert Cuykens wrote: > error xserver cant find default font 'fixed' > > So what does your magical glass bowl tell you about this error and > how to fix it so i can startup my xserver again. > _______________________________________________ Hi Gert, What it tells me is this from your previous post: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ? portmanager -sl xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-fontserver COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X font server from X.Org xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-type1 COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 dir=20 =2D=3D> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-miscbitmapsCOMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-printserver COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X Print server from X.Org xorg-nestserver-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-nestserver COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-server-6.7.0_9 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org X server and related programs xorg-manpages-6.7.0 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-manpages COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X.Org library manual pages xorg-clients-6.7.0_5 dir -=3D> /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients COMMENT=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0X client programs and related files from X.Org And it tells me that you did remove them. If you hadn't removed them,=20 you wouldn't be getting this error. Put them back. Now, I have a question for you. What are you doing with xorg-6.7 stuff=20 one your system? Why haven't you upgraded to 6.8?=20 Don =2D-=20 Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. Besides, I have a really great Airedale. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:50:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CABC16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:50:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5708F43D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34671 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Mar 2005 16:50:22 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=aX9wKwiB1XUaJcP75FfemCtDDPJC5yCaF0iJ6O/0VbUr9uuqhypbPDmR5pPhWfWW3Nf33uOorP/XocRNCqTlHVhcpy9DS+ZgZlGCGYCOrUo3Q6obxFcOAVSd9IT/1VndKCnWA+gziFHCaQJAqAoSfkN+bHEW1AKSxUp85CkfEtY= ; Message-ID: <20050315165022.34669.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:50:22 PST Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:50:22 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:50:24 -0000 When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9. is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any big problems? Thanks, Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:51:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAAC16A4D0 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:51:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A5343D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDE00JQTK54DWK0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:51:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 556882CE75B; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:51:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:51:03 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <200503150846.07378.ringworm01@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503150851.03995.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200503150846.07378.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:51:05 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:46 am, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 08:03 am, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > error xserver cant find default font 'fixed' > > > > So what does your magical glass bowl tell you about this error and > > how to fix it so i can startup my xserver again. > > Tried to warn you to leave the xorg stuff alone. Reinstall the fonts > you removed earlier: > > xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir -=> > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir > -=> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi > > should do it, if not just make install /usr/ports/x11/xorg and then > leave xorg stuff alone. > > -Mike Just one other note, If you have been upgrading with portmanager you should have either /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-6.8.1.tbz or /usr/ports/x11/xorg/xorg-6.8.1.tbz which means you can do pkg_add /usr/ports/packages/All/xorg-6.8.1.tbz or /usr/ports/x11/xorg/xorg-6.8.1.tbz and quickly recover everything instead of rebuilding. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:55:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id C3EEA16A4CF; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:17 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Weadick, Chris" Message-ID: <20050315165517.GY91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <54F3CA2E0F3B014FB6505B0BB177594CCB3C1F@can6600mf01.na.xerox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54F3CA2E0F3B014FB6505B0BB177594CCB3C1F@can6600mf01.na.xerox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: imdave@synet.net Subject: Re: all links broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:17 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:14:37AM -0400, Weadick, Chris wrote: > http://doc.ctrlaltdel.ch/freebsd/tutorials/fonts/fonts.html > > not sure who owns this site or if it was just snaffued... but the links > for font download locations are likely not what was expected. Most are > broken and one forwards you to a few questionable sites. > > please drop me a note when you get the page fixed, made for some > interesting reading... well before the links. FreeBSD.org has nothing to do with this page, as you can probably tell by the random non-freebsd.org URL. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:00:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:00:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FD943D53 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:00:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005031517001101600hl2due>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:00:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c52980$7e532ca0$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Gert Cuykens" , References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:00:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:00:15 -0000 There is no Magical Glass Bowl, only a conf file somewhere under /etc/X11 that might need editing T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gert Cuykens" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: error xserver > error xserver cant find default font 'fixed' > > So what does your magical glass bowl tell you about this error and how > to fix it so i can startup my xserver again. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:12:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A8716A4CE; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:12:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87743D66; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:12:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp@uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2] (may be forged)) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2FHC5gO095377; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:12:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost) j2FHC5UT095376; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:12:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) j2FH7Kwr077149; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:07:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FH6u5M077092; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:06:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FH6ueE077091; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:06:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:06:56 +0100 From: Peter Much To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 194.45.71.2; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de;) cc: girgen@freebsd.org cc: brett_schwarz@yahoo.com Subject: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:12:13 -0000 Hi all, my question is, which references to other sharedlibs need to be in a shared library? When installing postgresql database system and the Tcl interface tool "pgaccess", I noticed that the kerberos support did not work. I installed postgresql 7.4.5 from the ports colletion as of RELEASE 5.3. This is not the newest, so I did not create a bugreport, but instead figured out the problem (and a solution) by myself (with some support from the pgaccess user community). But now I would like to *understand* what was going wrong and why I could fix it the way I did. I describe the fabric: 1. postgresql brings a library "libpq.so.3" into /usr/local/lib. This library contains all the code to access the database server. If we use kerberos, then this library will call functions from the bunch of kerberos libraries (libkrb5, libasn1, etc etc) in /usr/lib. 2. postgresql also brings another, optional library "libpgtcl.so.2" into /usr/local/lib. This library contains special function for accessing the database server from Tcl. This library calls the functions in libpq.so.3. 3. pgaccess is a Tcl script. It wants to load libpgtcl.so. It finds and loads libpgtcl.so, it finds and loads the necessary functions from libpq.so, and then, if we have kerberos compiled in, it recognizes one of the needed kerberos functions, and complains that it cannot find this function referenced from libpq.so. So the load of libpgtcl.so fails. As far as I see, this problem does not arise with binaries. All binary progams using libpq.so do support kerberos, and it works. Then I noticed that sharedlibs contain a section where other needed sharedlibs can be explicitely mentioned. And I noticed that libpgtcl.so contains such a mentioning of libpq.so - so this is found by Tcl. But libqp.so does not contain an explicit mentioning of the kerberos libraries. So I tried around with the linker command until I practiced such an explicit mentioning into libpq.so. And then step 3 from above did succeed! I conclude: Since this is now a matter of how sharedlibs are built on the system, this does not only concern kerberos and postgresql, but concerns any component which shall be called from Tcl. I have now two versions of my libpq.so - both contain the same code, but one will support kerberos from Tcl, and the other (the one that was built in the standard way) will not. The only difference between both shows up in the output of "readelf -a" as follows: The standard build that does not work: ------------------------------------------------------- [...] Dynamic segment at offset 0x19774 contains 21 entries: Tag Type Name/Value 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libintl.so.6] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libssl.so.3] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypto.so.3] 0x0000000e (SONAME) Library soname: [libpq.so.3] 0x0000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/usr/local/lib] [...] My modified build that does work: ------------------------------------------------------- [...] Dynamic segment at offset 0x19774 contains 26 entries: Tag Type Name/Value 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libintl.so.6] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libssl.so.3] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypto.so.3] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libkrb5.so.7] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libasn1.so.7] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libroken.so.7] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypt.so.2] 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcom_err.so.2] 0x0000000e (SONAME) Library soname: [libpq.so.3] 0x0000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/usr/local/lib] [...] So, my question now is: where is the conceptional error which led to the software not working at first? In Tcl? In the linker? In the system loader? In the build environment (port)? In the postgresql makefiles? In the FreeBSD sharedlib management? In kerberos? Or somewhere else? And this seems complex enough to me so I do not even know how to search if it might be a known bug that has already been fixed in the meantime... PMc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:31:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885EA16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:31:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rrcs-mta-01.hrndva.rr.com (rrcs-mta-01.hrndva.rr.com [24.28.200.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CA543D48 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ron@bouncebk.com) Received: from rrcs-fep-10.hrndva.rr.com (rrcs-fep-10b.hrndva.rr.com [172.28.200.148])j2FHV2gW028428 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (really [67.48.105.136]) by rrcs-fep-10.hrndva.rr.com with ESMTP <20050315173101.CQWJ24643.rrcs-fep-10.hrndva.rr.com@[192.168.0.4]> for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <42371BD4.5070506@bouncebk.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:31:00 -0600 From: McCy Ron User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Wav from sound card line in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mccyron@kc.rr.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:31:03 -0000 I'm using FreeBSD 4.10 and would like to make WAV format recordings from my sound card's "line in" channel with some sort of "command line" utility. I've been successful in finding other sorts of ports and packages to rip CDs and play Wavs and MP3s but have yet to find anything in the software descriptions that address this need. Can anyone recommend something? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:43:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D0F16A4CE; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:43:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harik.murex.com (mail.murex.com [194.98.239.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E5E43D39; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:43:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from interscan.fr.murex.com (iscan.murex.fr [172.21.17.207] (may be forged)) by harik.murex.com with ESMTP id j2FHWobW022256; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:32:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mxmail.murex.com (interscan.murex.fr [127.0.0.1]) by interscan.fr.murex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2FHrOf08881; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:53:27 +0100 Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com ([172.21.130.86]) by mxmail.murex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:43:12 +0100 From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:43:19 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151243.19596.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 17:43:12.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[75A744A0:01C52986] cc: usb@FreeBSD.org Subject: umass0 -- yes, daX -- no? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:43:43 -0000 Hello! I'm trying to access the file system on a usb memory key. When I insert it, however, kernel duly reports creation of umass0, but not the da1 (da0 is my ZIP drive). According to usbdevs -d, I have: addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS uhub0 addr 2: Dell USB Memory Key, M-Systems umass0 addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS uhub1 addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS uhub2 It ought to be something obvious, but I can't see what it is :-( Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:50:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1F216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:50:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF1543D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FHlaFN064576; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:47:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost)j2FHlZDb064573; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:47:36 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:47:34 +0000 (GMT) From: doug To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <9a59e9089e0ba18e22d7a0f4ffde466a@mac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Adam Michalak cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions regarding $PAGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:50:12 -0000 Thanks, your excellent answer prompted me to actually read the less man page :) Lots of usful stuff. One question. On 4.11, at least no meaning is suggested for MM (rather than M). Is this a typo or an undocumented feature? On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 15, 2005, at 1:46 AM, Adam Michalak wrote: > > I have a few questions regarding the pagers more and less. > > If I type "man more" at the prompt i get the man page for less > > are more and less now considered interchangeable? > > FreeBSD might actually ship with less configured to replace more. > > > When I do view a file with more my percentage of the file > > viewed is displayed in the bottom right hand screen. > > > > However when I view a manpage the number of bytes viewed > > as opposed to percentage is displayed at the bottom right > > hand of the screen. How can i set this so that percentage is > > displayed by default? > > Consider adding something like this to your shell startup: > > LESS='-cdegiMMs -h20 -j4' > export LESS > > [ If you use tcsh, use setenv instead. ] > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:54:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000AD16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:54:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D477043D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2FHsIq2006019; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2FHsGDG027574; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:54:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:54:16 -0500 To: doug X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Adam Michalak cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions regarding $PAGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:54:22 -0000 On Mar 15, 2005, at 12:47 PM, doug wrote: > Thanks, your excellent answer prompted me to actually read the less > man page :) > Lots of usful stuff. One question. On 4.11, at least no meaning is > suggested for > MM (rather than M). Is this a typo or an undocumented feature? Some versions of less will display an even more verbose prompt with -MM, just like using -v twice in some other programs will show more verbosity.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 17:58:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F0516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:58:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vmx55.multikabel.net (vmx55.multikabel.net [212.127.254.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4048343D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:58:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koendewijs@gmx.net) Received: from vmx60.multikabel.net ([212.127.254.141]) by vmx55.multikabel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DBGIz-0006hL-CH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:58:09 +0100 Received: from [84.107.21.88] (84-107-21-88.dsl.quicknet.nl [84.107.21.88]) by vmx60.multikabel.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FHw6Pk026140 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:58:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4237222E.2090009@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:58:06 +0100 From: koen de wijs User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: koendewijs@gmx.net Subject: shutdown problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:58:17 -0000 Hello, I have reinstalled FreeBSD. First I used 5.2.1 and now am I using 5.3. When I shutdown my system I have to press the power button to shutdown. With 5.2.1 I didn't need to do that. I searched some time and I found this: I found this text on this site: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/relnotes-i386.html The acpi(4) driver will now be disabled automatically when the machine has a well-known broken BIOS. This behavior can be overridden by setting the loader tunable hint.acpi.0.disabled to 0. Do I have to add the line /hint.acpi.0.disabled="0" /to loader.conf?? Or do I have to add the line /hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff="0"?? /Could anybody help me? I'm new to both FreeBSD and Unix. Thanks Koen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 18:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE9316A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (82.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5960743D55 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D04ADAC; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:28:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from melon.pingpong.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (melon.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 51810-01; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:28:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.187] (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EEA4ADA6; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:28:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:28:14 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Peter Much , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9C05F10029508113D296723A@rambutan.pingpong.net> In-Reply-To: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> References: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pingpong.net cc: brett_schwarz@yahoo.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:18 -0000 Hi Peter, There is (and was in 5.3 release) a knob to build postgresql with Kerberos. WITH_HEIMDAL_KRB5=YES. Did you try that when building PostgreSQL? It would probably do the same thing as you managed by trying around with the linker command. Setting this knob to yes will add --with-krb5=/usr to the configure arguments, and this will trigger stuff in postgresql makefiles and possibly also additional code. I think this is what went wrong; the postgresql source has a configure option for building and linking with Kerberos, this option is reflected in the port, but it was not used in this case. Best regards, Palle --On tisdag, mars 15, 2005 18.06.56 +0100 Peter Much wrote: > Hi all, > > my question is, > which references to other sharedlibs need to be in a shared > library? > > When installing postgresql database system and the Tcl interface tool > "pgaccess", I noticed that the kerberos support did not work. > > I installed postgresql 7.4.5 from the ports colletion as of RELEASE > 5.3. This is not the newest, so I did not create a bugreport, but > instead figured out the problem (and a solution) by myself (with > some support from the pgaccess user community). > > But now I would like to *understand* what was going wrong and why > I could fix it the way I did. > > I describe the fabric: > 1. postgresql brings a library "libpq.so.3" into /usr/local/lib. This > library contains all the code to access the database server. > If we use kerberos, then this library will call functions from > the bunch of kerberos libraries (libkrb5, libasn1, etc etc) > in /usr/lib. > 2. postgresql also brings another, optional library "libpgtcl.so.2" > into /usr/local/lib. This library contains special function for > accessing the database server from Tcl. > This library calls the functions in libpq.so.3. > 3. pgaccess is a Tcl script. It wants to load libpgtcl.so. It finds > and loads libpgtcl.so, it finds and loads the necessary functions > from libpq.so, and then, if we have kerberos compiled in, it > recognizes one of the needed kerberos functions, and complains > that it cannot find this function referenced from libpq.so. So the > load of libpgtcl.so fails. > > As far as I see, this problem does not arise with binaries. All > binary progams using libpq.so do support kerberos, and it works. > > Then I noticed that sharedlibs contain a section where other needed > sharedlibs can be explicitely mentioned. And I noticed that > libpgtcl.so contains such a mentioning of libpq.so - so this is > found by Tcl. > But libqp.so does not contain an explicit mentioning of the kerberos > libraries. > So I tried around with the linker command until I practiced such > an explicit mentioning into libpq.so. > And then step 3 from above did succeed! > > I conclude: > Since this is now a matter of how sharedlibs are built on the system, > this does not only concern kerberos and postgresql, but concerns any > component which shall be called from Tcl. > > I have now two versions of my libpq.so - both contain the same code, > but one will support kerberos from Tcl, and the other (the one that > was built in the standard way) will not. > The only difference between both shows up in the output of "readelf > -a" as follows: > > The standard build that does not work: > ------------------------------------------------------- > [...] > Dynamic segment at offset 0x19774 contains 21 entries: > Tag Type Name/Value > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libintl.so.6] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libssl.so.3] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypto.so.3] > 0x0000000e (SONAME) Library soname: [libpq.so.3] > 0x0000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/usr/local/lib] > [...] > > My modified build that does work: > ------------------------------------------------------- > [...] > Dynamic segment at offset 0x19774 contains 26 entries: > Tag Type Name/Value > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libintl.so.6] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libssl.so.3] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypto.so.3] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libkrb5.so.7] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libasn1.so.7] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libroken.so.7] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcrypt.so.2] > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcom_err.so.2] > 0x0000000e (SONAME) Library soname: [libpq.so.3] > 0x0000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/usr/local/lib] > [...] > > So, my question now is: where is the conceptional error which led > to the software not working at first? > In Tcl? In the linker? In the system loader? In the build environment > (port)? In the postgresql makefiles? In the FreeBSD sharedlib > management? In kerberos? Or somewhere else? > > And this seems complex enough to me so I do not even know how > to search if it might be a known bug that has already been fixed > in the meantime... > > PMc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 18:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7D816A4D4 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF143D55 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (dos.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2FIUho4002964 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:30:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <42372A1A.3080907@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:31:54 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Thunderbird/1.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD mailinglist X-Priority: 1 (Highest) References: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> <5d2cf69205031507533631ce04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5d2cf69205031507533631ce04@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rc.conf reloaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:28:25 -0000 Jeff Wirth skrev: > FAQs for FreeBSD: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#REREAD-RC > > Recent thread on freebsd-questions: (reload rc.conf without rebooting) > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-March/thread.html#79339 Thanks Jeff. It seems like one can't reload rc.conf from an ssh session. Well. That's that i suppose. Thank you ALL for the input. > > -jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 18:53:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE7516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:53:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D3143D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9241E3C282A; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:53:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42372F20.80308@toldme.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:53:20 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike@ascendency.net References: <200503150436.j2F4Zxm12806@fat_man.ascendency.net> In-Reply-To: <200503150436.j2F4Zxm12806@fat_man.ascendency.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:53:28 -0000 Mike Loiterman wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that is compatible with 5.3? The >3ware ones listed in the hardware notes are pretty expensive...over a >hundred dollars for the lowest end card. Is 5.3 compatible with any of the >adpatec or promise cards? > > What kind of RAID do you want? For a simple system-level RAID1, skip the hardware and go with gmirror. -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 19:21:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7DA16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:21:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5E243D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:21:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp@uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2] (may be forged)) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2FJL3HG007070 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost)j2FJL3qA007069 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:21:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) j2FJHg8N086712 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:17:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FJFLEj086586 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:15:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FJFLoA086585 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:15:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:15:21 +0100 From: Peter Much To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315191521.GA86313@gate.oper.dinoex.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 194.45.71.2; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de;) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:21:15 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Ups, forgot the mailinglist... --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:52:24 +0100 From: Peter Much To: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl) Message-ID: <20050315185224.GA83998@gate.oper.dinoex.org> References: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <9C05F10029508113D296723A@rambutan.pingpong.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9C05F10029508113D296723A@rambutan.pingpong.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:28:14PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: Hi Palle, I'm glad You are in with it! ! There is (and was in 5.3 release) a knob to build postgresql with Kerberos. ! WITH_HEIMDAL_KRB5=YES. Did you try that when building PostgreSQL? It would oh yes, thats the first thing I did! This is ok and working so far: standard postgres (without Tcl) has kerberos support working. It starts getting difficult when it comes to the Tcl support: In the Makefile for ports/databases/postgresql-tcltk this exact knob is not honored. With the result that from pgtclsh we cannot connect to postgres with kerberos authentication. So I modified that Makefile a little to build my Tcl stuff with kerberos support. This worked as expected, and now my pgtclsh could connect with kerberos authentication. But pgaccess still could not. ! I think this is what went wrong; the postgresql source has a configure ! option for building and linking with Kerberos, this option is reflected in ! the port, but it was not used in this case. Sorry, no. Sometimes I'm really stupid, but I think not this time. ;-) PMc --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 19:39:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EA016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:39:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5650543D48 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:39:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 06BB44AA1; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:24 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s118789; Tue, 15 Mar 05 20:39:16 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711C4499E; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:16 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 38A5C38012; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373885C002; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:16 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <448y4p7znq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <42326F4D.70008@daleco.biz> <200503120435.j2C4ZDr89213@fat_man.ascendency.net> <20050313112025.GI18080@alzatex.com> <20050314153532.GA825@Alex.lan> <448y4p7znq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:39:27 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Andreas Davour writes: > >> I have read the handbook about firewalls, and compiled my kernel >> without switching on any explicit support for pf. >> >> Now, when I ran the mergemaster it suddenly found a lot of references >> to pf in my startup scripts. > > The startup scripts support pf, but do not require it. Ok, That's a relief. I didn't do anything stupid. >> Is pf some kind of mandatory part of the base system these days? I >> thought it was some kind of alternative to IPFW, but now I'm no longer >> so sure. > > It is a part of the base system. It is always present just like ipfw, > but its use is not required. So, the base systems ships with two firewalls? Why? Reading about firewalls in the handbook, I realized I didn't know much about them. I'd say that adding some more text to the handbook about those two and how they [don't] interact might be a good idea. I don't know enough to do it. >> Can someone tell me if it's ok to just use IPFW on my STABLE system, >> or is there some other knobs in the kernelconfig I should toggle to >> turn off pf support? > > You are fine the way you are. I recommend letting mergemaster update > the default pf startup files, so that it won't ask about them next > time, but it doesn't really matter if you're not using pf. Will do. Thanks for the help! /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 19:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5670116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8443D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:53:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DBI6y-000I8q-1O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:53:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:53:52 -0500 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315195351.GA69547@sockeye.firmanix.com> References: <20050314194504.GA52623@sockeye.firmanix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050314194504.GA52623@sockeye.firmanix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: need help getting around kern/70401 so I can load ipl.ko (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:53:50 -0000 On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:45:04PM -0500, Andy Firman wrote: > I have not been able to get ipfilter working on a system and > it is because I don't have INET6 in my custom kernel, and therefore > the system cannot load the ipl.ko module. Here is the issue: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70401 > Found a solution to my problem. One must add an entry to /etc/make.conf and then you can rebuild the module, load it, and get the firewall going with no reboot. Below is a summary of doing this with my TEST kernel having the INET6 option commented out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- su-3.00# kldload -v ipl kldload: can't load ipl.ko: No such file or directory su-3.00# uname -a FreeBSD localhost 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Mon Mar 14 16:08:45 EST 2005 andy@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST i386 must add NOINET6=YES to /etc/make.conf before you make the new module..... su-3.00# cd /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/ su-3.00# make su-3.00# make install su-3.00# kldload -v ipl Nothing returned to therefore loaded properly...!!!!! su-3.00# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 6 0xc0400000 59f308 kernel 2 1 0xc15fb000 17000 linux.ko 3 1 0xc1670000 16000 ipl.ko su-3.00# ipfstat -in empty list for ipfilter(in) su-3.00# ipfstat -on empty list for ipfilter(out) su-3.00# ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules This locks up your session. Must login again and start new session..... Success upon new login in which the rules are working!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 19:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABA216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mallaury.noc.nerim.net (smtp-102-tuesday.noc.nerim.net [62.4.17.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD1443D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bettan@nerim.net) Received: from frederic (linux-win.org [62.212.96.206]) by mallaury.noc.nerim.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8470C62D75 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:56:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c52999$1c450e70$0401a8c0@frederic> From: "cell" To: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:56:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0511-0, 15/03/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: boot problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:56:46 -0000 hello , i have already the sameproblem when i boot with freebsd 5.3 = since i have had a power cut .The message of the error is :=20 error 16 Iba 191 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: error 16 Iba 191 No /kernel I have tried boot : /kernel.old but i have No /kernel.old and i don't = know how do with the bootonly cd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 20:35:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08B16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A94543D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a180.otenet.gr [212.205.215.180]) j2FKYAuj014749; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:34:10 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2FKYTWS001747; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:34:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2FKYTHI001746; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:34:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:34:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20050315203429.GC1558@gothmog.gr> References: <42368FC6.5040106@bah.homeip.net> <5d2cf69205031507533631ce04@mail.gmail.com> <42372A1A.3080907@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42372A1A.3080907@bah.homeip.net> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rc.conf reloaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:40 -0000 On 2005-03-15 19:31, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Jeff Wirth skrev: > >FAQs for FreeBSD: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#REREAD-RC > > > >Recent thread on freebsd-questions: (reload rc.conf without rebooting) > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2005-March/thread.html#79339 > > Thanks Jeff. It seems like one can't reload rc.conf from an ssh > session. Well. That's that i suppose. Thank you ALL for the input. Yes, you can't "reload" rc.conf. It doesn't make sense, because rc.conf is not "loaded" after a system has brought itself up. It only serves as a useful collection of options and is parsed (mostly) at startup time by some of the startup scripts. If you have some specific changes to rc.conf in mind that you need to apply without a reboot, it's usually possible. We'd have to know what the exact changes were though, before any meaningful response could be written. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:01:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBFD16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:01:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A624343D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so4959wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:01:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h7j6xpq9ned1poLs0HsAD8Luih9n0oKtsgSmajxmJBRUlPGEkYDJ5QdlbgcioyYwjJMSnzOReuANlKlJ38Y9+TDDKUOoewy/o6G1p+hcqn4pgfNC7+HPSahtntkvf32RQJYQo580euo00s3i4ZBEwv5D5hAo3C/FRYRAQtH0MWI= Received: by 10.38.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr981856rne; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:01:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:01:06 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:01:13 -0000 All, I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents I noticed that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and Gvinum. Which utility should be used? It's my understanding that Gvinum is the most current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum or both? Thanks! --Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:04:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39E216A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C876B43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org ([172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2FL4VoR010158; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:04:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FL4VZT068099; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:04:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FL4VIj068098; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:04:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:04:31 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Nick Pavlica Message-ID: <20050315210430.GF67147@polands.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:04:44 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:01:06PM -0700, Nick Pavlica wrote: > All, > I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two > identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents > I noticed that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and > Gvinum. Which utility should be used? It's my understanding that > Gvinum is the most current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the > hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum or both? > This is not an answer to your question, but another option for you to consider: gstripe -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:05:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A77516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:05:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9831943D48 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DBJCo-0008H9-1A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:03:58 +0100 Received: from rms.gnu-rox.org ([62.212.121.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:03:57 +0100 Received: from zedek by rms.gnu-rox.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:03:57 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Xavier Maillard Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:05:03 +0100 Organization: GNU Rox ! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:05:20 -0000 Hello, I am desperately looking for help for a problem[1] with my SBCL installation. Obviously, the compilation of SBCL as the one used in the ports, works ok on my GNU/Linux box. Any hint really appreciated. --Footnotes-- [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/78847 -- ,--. Xavier Maillard, Reims, France ,= ,-_-. =. / ,- ) http://www.emacsfr.org/ ((_/)o o(\_)) \ `-' `-'(. .)`-' `-. Debian, a variant of the GNU operating system. \_/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF26D16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3DF43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so369wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:21:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=T298oAewNw54w8MXAuga1KOGRdRgFDJp4jNUfL+pD5/+Mrv/NRoev2jd+/fmnT2dKom0dh3RrqL7+qwCyj+Kqmba+wleV1JzBKDR2bw1Yv2x42V6rjYxm3KPYE9PB+vSbxKrRaHE/jphJsEObc7Rlx1WDAoLSTUi4jA6aC5Ffqk= Received: by 10.38.125.59 with SMTP id x59mr1025891rnc; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:21:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:21:17 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Doug Poland In-Reply-To: <20050315210430.GF67147@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050315210430.GF67147@polands.org> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:21 -0000 Hi Doug, I will take a look at this. Have you used it on any production servers? How does it compare to vinum/gvinum in terms of performance reliability? --Thanks! Nick On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:04:31 -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:01:06PM -0700, Nick Pavlica wrote: > > All, > > I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two > > identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents > > I noticed that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and > > Gvinum. Which utility should be used? It's my understanding that > > Gvinum is the most current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the > > hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum or both? > > > This is not an answer to your question, but another option for you to > consider: gstripe > > -- > Regards, > Doug > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:26:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B218916A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:26:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFA843D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:26:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FLQdQW011837; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:26:40 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:26:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4236B40C.100@axis.nl> In-Reply-To: <4236B40C.100@axis.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151326.46181.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Olaf Greve Subject: Re: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found error when installinglogrotate port - how to solve this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:26:50 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 02:08 am, Olaf Greve wrote: > Hi all, > > I have run into a weird issue, which for some reason doesn't want to > get resolved. > > I am using FreeBSD 5.2.1 Release i386, and my ports tree is recent > (via /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile). > > However, when trying to install the logrotate port (i.e. version > logrotate-3.7_3 - located in /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate/), I keep > getting the following error: > > ********************************************************************* >* millennics# make install > ===> Building for logrotate-3.7_3 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate. > ********************************************************************* >* > > Now, I tried perform a 'make clean' and a 'make depend' as well, but > all to no avail. > > Searching on the Internet suggests that this is due to 'gettext'. So, > I tried reinstalling that as well, but still, no luck. > > The installed gettext packages are: > ********************************************************************* >* millennics# pkg_info | grep gette > gettext-0.14.1 GNU gettext package > p5-gettext-1.03 Message handling functions > ********************************************************************* >* > > I guess this is basically o.k., right?!? No, you have the right version of gettext but you didn't address the problem. > > Soooooo, the question then winds down to how to resolve this. Can > anyone tell me how I can fix this problem? Well, you have a mix bag set of references to gettext. Ports you haven't rebuilt are still refering to the old library. The interface changed between .so.5 and .so.6 and you have to rebuild everything that uses libintl. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:27:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCEC16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AAB43D49 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamesd.earl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so417wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:27:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=duUKkx5a4nBnOAO128sMyIwSpaKEBxzUMgcRTtHjdLIf2D7EUdVgf+28qX96Kl0DzZvqHHhgWpPxqprP06muSauknYrEtQVSvOKK/rs86DmifTZD4p53NWX3qyJ2retGUTtLNVdTT/eFpFLZKs3K7s3aobBW6qS2RklI+ttGGbo= Received: by 10.54.8.61 with SMTP id 61mr318102wrh; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.14 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:27:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:27:29 -0700 From: James Earl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Advice on integrated video on friends system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@icionline.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:31 -0000 Hi, A good friend of mine asked me to setup FreeBSD and GNOME on his home computer for his family to use. It is an old IBM Aptiva. The usual stuff works, but of course it has to have integrated video: ATI Rage Pro Turbo chipset. I'm running the latest Xorg in the ports tree and started with a configuration file using 'Xorg -configure'. No matter what I've tried (no accel, no dri, defaultdepth 8, 16, Modes 800x600, 640x480), all the results have been the same, even when trying to run xorgcfg... when I run startx, my monitor blanks, and either tells me it's an unsupported video mode, or the screen just goes blank. Doing ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restore my text mode, but I am able to reboot the system using ctrl+alt+del, or I can even type 'shutdown -p now' (but nothing is displayed). Could anyone suggest any additional course of action, or is this chipset clearly unsupported? It's really hard for me to give up on this... it's not too often that I get to setup someone with FreeBSD and GNOME (has only happened to me once before this). James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0B916A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B02B43D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.icarix.net ([12.7.93.4]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:28:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:26:47 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315132647.2dc8006f@zaphod.icarix.net> Organization: BulletOnline X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 21:28:32.0732 (UTC) FILETIME=[F044F1C0:01C529A5] Subject: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:27:59 -0000 Hi, I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is this: cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and have been directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly the compiler includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I know compat4x was installed recently and dont know if this has and relation. I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out of my depth when it come to compilers and how they work. unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back next week would be a start Regards Alex -- Alex Shaw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:39:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890FF16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:39:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A0543D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:39:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.icarix.net ([12.7.93.4]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:40:19 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:38:34 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> Organization: BulletOnline X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 21:40:19.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[95C80C80:01C529A7] Subject: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:39:45 -0000 Hi, I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is this: cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and have been directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly the compiler includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I know compat4x was installed recently and dont know if this has and relation. I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out of my depth when it come to compilers and how they work. unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back next week would be a start Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and it worked.... dont know how much this will help. Regards Alex -- Alex Shaw > Hi, im trying to install libxml2-2.6.18 from the FreeBSD ports, there is a problem with the compile on the system i am using. I have tried several versions of libxml2 and they all return the same error, which means its probably not an issue involved with libxml, but I cant pin down where the error is coming from, or what is causing the problem to occur. I was hoping someone on this list would be able to point me in the direction of what is causing this. > > The error is: > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' paphio:~/XML -> grep __signbit *.c paphio:~/XML -> grep __signbit *.c include/libxml/*.h paphio:~/XML -> Somehow your system or compiler includes are not in synch with your installed libc, sounds bad, but you're right it doesn't sound like a libxml2 problem. The great thing about those systems where everybody recompiles locally is that you don't have the same system as your neighbour, this is also its main drawback, you're on your own to debug the problem... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C2D16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:43:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6B043D54 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:43:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamesd.earl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so2263wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gw4hWWF5Dxjpp4iJKmEqYLdv2QtJ9Kx7gXaUb41QEvv4E0oGKPTikt8GZeDE1VvQZVdaPJ7v+Pcm/4p5yYjQF0Wu9JQmfcqPmxukiVLJtR3ywc51NiAzjG2TEs+Fhy1FQs7ZQ5FKKXLAECKVaIg7grnVS4UCol4V0ywsdaUDRkI= Received: by 10.54.27.49 with SMTP id a49mr511006wra; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.14 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:43:06 -0700 From: James Earl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503151535510196.1950B620@mail.intradyn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503151535510196.1950B620@mail.intradyn.com> Subject: Re: Advice on integrated video on friends system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@icionline.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:43:07 -0000 I've included HorizSync, and VertRefresh for the monitor's specs. Is there more that's needed in this case? The monitor that I'm currently testing with is a Samsung 193P. I also tested on a Samsung 171S, and an old CRT. On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:51 -0600, Henry Miller wrote: > > I'd start by getting the specs for the monitor and manually entering > them into the xorg.conf file. This looks to me like the case of the > monitor shutting itself down because the sync is out of the supported > range. > > man xorg.conf > man Xservers > > > On 3/15/2005 at 14:27 James Earl wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >A good friend of mine asked me to setup FreeBSD and GNOME on his home > >computer for his family to use. It is an old IBM Aptiva. The usual > >stuff works, but of course it has to have integrated video: ATI Rage > >Pro Turbo chipset. > > > >I'm running the latest Xorg in the ports tree and started with a > >configuration file using 'Xorg -configure'. No matter what I've tried > >(no accel, no dri, defaultdepth 8, 16, Modes 800x600, 640x480), all > >the results have been the same, even when trying to run xorgcfg... > >when I run startx, my monitor blanks, and either tells me it's an > >unsupported video mode, or the screen just goes blank. Doing > >ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restore my text mode, but I am able to > >reboot the system using ctrl+alt+del, or I can even type 'shutdown -p > >now' (but nothing is displayed). > > > >Could anyone suggest any additional course of action, or is this > >chipset clearly unsupported? It's really hard for me to give up on > >this... it's not too often that I get to setup someone with FreeBSD > >and GNOME (has only happened to me once before this). > > > >James > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 21:46:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B4016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:46:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B6843D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:46:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956E2C623F1; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:46:16 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 0a55k4DyqwKDvkgJplurAQ 1110923175 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F9E25535; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1DBJre-0007ym-BN; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:10 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:10 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: james@icionline.ca Message-ID: <20050315214610.GP8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: james@icionline.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WOTjKnJ88wpJKlWH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3FDF A406 B149 3959 A8CB C5A9 3B46 4812 D852 7E49 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice on integrated video on friends system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:46:19 -0000 --WOTjKnJ88wpJKlWH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:27:29PM -0700, James Earl wrote: > Hi, >=20 > A good friend of mine asked me to setup FreeBSD and GNOME on his home > computer for his family to use. It is an old IBM Aptiva. The usual > stuff works, but of course it has to have integrated video: ATI Rage > Pro Turbo chipset. >=20 > I'm running the latest Xorg in the ports tree and started with a > configuration file using 'Xorg -configure'. No matter what I've tried > (no accel, no dri, defaultdepth 8, 16, Modes 800x600, 640x480), all > the results have been the same, even when trying to run xorgcfg... > when I run startx, my monitor blanks, and either tells me it's an > unsupported video mode, or the screen just goes blank. Doing > ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restore my text mode, but I am able to > reboot the system using ctrl+alt+del, or I can even type 'shutdown -p > now' (but nothing is displayed). >=20 > Could anyone suggest any additional course of action, or is this > chipset clearly unsupported? It's really hard for me to give up on > this... it's not too often that I get to setup someone with FreeBSD > and GNOME (has only happened to me once before this). >=20 > James I don't know about Xorg and hardware compatibility for an ATI Rage Pro chip, but from what you are describing I would tend to point to an issue with the monitor settings rather than the video card itself. If the monitor is old, then EDID information may not be available from the monitor, so Xorg may just try some default monitor setting that don't happen to work with that monitor. Have you done some searches for Hsync and Vertical Refresh rates for the monitor in question? Once you know these values (ranges), you can set them manually in the xorg.conf file under the section titled "Monitor". For example: Section "Monitor" HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 EndSection As far as losing control of the display, but apparently still having control of the keyboard, is the machine on a network? Can you possibly ssh into the box and control it remotely? Nathan --WOTjKnJ88wpJKlWH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCN1eiO0ZIEthSfkkRAukSAKCWSDCd1Dc+36wb6xt+Wc+fBsBi4wCgrTtV K85lnMsaBXv+7jED5p6vTC8= =v4gb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WOTjKnJ88wpJKlWH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:00:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27B016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from la.mylocalnet.com (la.mylocalnet.com [66.34.209.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C95A43D1D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@clickbuild.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-24-130-114-1.we.client2.attbi.com [24.130.114.1]) by la.mylocalnet.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j2FM08Rx066103 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@clickbuild.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2ea37626e35b2f0b32d78cfac908fd2a@clickbuild.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steve Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: help diagnosing crash + other oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:09 -0000 Hi All, I have had some recent crashes and am trying to diagnose what might be causing the problems. I'd really appreciate any suggestions or ideas on where to look for info. crash: full on kernel panic. This seems to have been cause by me stopping and restarting sendmail. I use a shell alias which stops, waits and restarts sendmail. See [item 1] at the end of this message httpd signal 11: I seem to be getting a bunch of these recently. I used to see these with earlier versions of PHP. Has anyone had these with 4.3.10 (side note: 4.3.10 does not seem to report error line numbers correctly). runaway process: When I checked in this morning mysql was at 80% wcpu and my 1 gig of swap was all used up. my guess from the logs is that an httpd process went down leaving mysql with nowhere to go [see item 2] at the end of this message question: what does mean in top? Shows as IWs or IWs+ in ps eg: 58939 root 10 0 648K 0K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% Thanks for your time, Steve INFO Services: ssh, httpd, ftp(inetd), named, sendmail + spamassassin as spamc/d (resource hog) + my own php script for smpt auth [item 1] Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: fault virtual address = 0xab4c8000 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not pres ent Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01e403b Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: stack pointer = 0x10:0xcc658e60 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: frame pointer = 0x10:0xcc658e84 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff f, type 0x1b Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOP L = 0 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: current process = 13357 (top) Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: interrupt mask = net tty bio cam Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: trap number = 12 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: panic: page fault Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: syncing disks... 13 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 11 Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: done Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: Uptime: 6d14h48m52s Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: Automatic reboot in 60 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Mar 13 16:40:50 la /kernel: Rebooting... [item 2] Mar 15 08:26:42 la /kernel: pid 44764 (httpd), uid 65534: exited on signal 11 Mar 15 08:28:49 la /kernel: pid 51529 (httpd), uid 65534: exited on signal 11 Mar 15 08:31:57 la /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed Mar 15 08:31:57 la last message repeated 85 times Mar 15 08:31:57 la /kernel: pid 44762 (httpd), uid 65534, was killed: out of swa p space Mar 15 08:32:28 la /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed Mar 15 08:32:35 la last message repeated 335 times Mar 15 08:32:35 la /kernel: pid 44769 (httpd), uid 65534, was killed: out of swa p space Mar 15 08:33:08 la /kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed --- and so on until I restarted services From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:00:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8017716A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243FF43D46 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FM0AQW012829; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:10 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:17 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151400.17350.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Alex Shaw Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:00:21 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is this: > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type > -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts > -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o > .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz > -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: > undefined reference to `__signbit' > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] > Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all produce > the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and have been > directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly the compiler > includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I know compat4x was > installed recently and dont know if this has and relation. > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list for > reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get php-xml to > run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out of my depth > when it come to compilers and how they work. > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away on a > busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so any > solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back next week > would be a start > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and it > worked.... dont know how much this will help. FWIW, I have rebuilt in on 4-stable and 5-stable and didn't see your problem. I would suspect that you have a dependancy out of date. I don't think a "portugrade -Rf libxml2" would take long. IF it fails, it will leave the old version installed. Kent > > Regards > > Alex -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:09:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E515516A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:09:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA69743D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.icarix.net ([12.7.93.4]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:10:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:08:24 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: Kent Stewart Message-ID: <20050315140824.40d3a0d0@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <200503151400.17350.kstewart@owt.com> References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> <200503151400.17350.kstewart@owt.com> Organization: BulletOnline X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 22:10:10.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0F11A60:01C529AB] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:09:36 -0000 thanks for this ... i ran portupgrade -Rf libxml2 after a little time it returned the following cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade2791.2 make** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! textproc/libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.13) (linker error) ---> Packages processed: 2 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed same problem :( regards Alex On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:17 -0800 Kent Stewart wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is this: > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type > > -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts > > -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > > -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o > > .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz > > -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: > > undefined reference to `__signbit' > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** > > [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] > > Error 2 > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all produce > > the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and have been > > directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly the compiler > > includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I know compat4x was > > installed recently and dont know if this has and relation. > > > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list for > > reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get php-xml to > > run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out of my depth > > when it come to compilers and how they work. > > > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away on a > > busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so any > > solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back next week > > would be a start > > > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and it > > worked.... dont know how much this will help. > > FWIW, I have rebuilt in on 4-stable and 5-stable and didn't see your > problem. I would suspect that you have a dependancy out of date. I > don't think a "portugrade -Rf libxml2" would take long. IF it fails, it > will leave the old version installed. > > Kent > > > > > Regards > > > > Alex > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > -- Alex Shaw Technical Manager BulletOnline www.bulletonline.com +44(0)2088343442 +44(0)7790744560 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:22:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8890E16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E477F43D67 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FMMOQW013659; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:22:25 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:22:31 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> <200503151400.17350.kstewart@owt.com> <20050315140824.40d3a0d0@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050315140824.40d3a0d0@zaphod.icarix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151422.31618.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Alex Shaw Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:22:35 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:08 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > thanks for this ... i ran portupgrade -Rf libxml2 > > after a little time it returned the following What version of FreeBSD are you running? Could you be using a version that is too old? Kent > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type > -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts > -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o > .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz > -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: > undefined reference to `__signbit' > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] > Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portupgrade2791.2 make** Fix the problem and try again. ** > Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > ! textproc/libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.13) (linker error) > ---> Packages processed: 2 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed > > same problem :( > > regards > > Alex > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:17 -0800 > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is > > > this: > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit > > > -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat > > > -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow > > > -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return > > > -Wstrict-prototypes > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls > > > -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so > > > -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: > > > *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** > > > [all] Error 2 > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all > > > produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and > > > have been directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly > > > the compiler includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I > > > know compat4x was installed recently and dont know if this has > > > and relation. > > > > > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list > > > for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get > > > php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out > > > of my depth when it come to compilers and how they work. > > > > > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away > > > on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so > > > any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back > > > next week would be a start > > > > > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and > > > it worked.... dont know how much this will help. > > > > FWIW, I have rebuilt in on 4-stable and 5-stable and didn't see > > your problem. I would suspect that you have a dependancy out of > > date. I don't think a "portugrade -Rf libxml2" would take long. IF > > it fails, it will leave the old version installed. > > > > Kent > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Alex > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:23:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9130F16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:23:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC0643D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.icarix.net ([12.7.93.4]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:24:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:22:26 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: Kent Stewart Message-ID: <20050315142226.6f588666@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <200503151422.31618.kstewart@owt.com> References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> <200503151400.17350.kstewart@owt.com> <20050315140824.40d3a0d0@zaphod.icarix.net> <200503151422.31618.kstewart@owt.com> Organization: BulletOnline X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 22:24:11.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6981B70:01C529AD] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:23:37 -0000 I am using 5.3 .... I did however recently install compat4x ... could that be related ? On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:22:31 -0800 Kent Stewart wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:08 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > thanks for this ... i ran portupgrade -Rf libxml2 > > > > after a little time it returned the following > > What version of FreeBSD are you running? Could you be using a version > that is too old? > > Kent > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type > > -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts > > -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > > -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o > > .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz > > -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so: > > undefined reference to `__signbit' > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: *** > > [all-recursive] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** [all] > > Error 2 > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2. > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > /tmp/portupgrade2791.2 make** Fix the problem and try again. ** > > Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > > ! textproc/libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.13) (linker error) > > ---> Packages processed: 2 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed > > > > same problem :( > > > > regards > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:17 -0800 > > > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is > > > > this: > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit > > > > -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat > > > > -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow > > > > -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return > > > > -Wstrict-prototypes > > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls > > > > -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so > > > > -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > > > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > > > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: > > > > *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** > > > > [all] Error 2 > > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all > > > > produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and > > > > have been directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly > > > > the compiler includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I > > > > know compat4x was installed recently and dont know if this has > > > > and relation. > > > > > > > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list > > > > for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get > > > > php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out > > > > of my depth when it come to compilers and how they work. > > > > > > > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away > > > > on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so > > > > any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back > > > > next week would be a start > > > > > > > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and > > > > it worked.... dont know how much this will help. > > > > > > FWIW, I have rebuilt in on 4-stable and 5-stable and didn't see > > > your problem. I would suspect that you have a dependancy out of > > > date. I don't think a "portugrade -Rf libxml2" would take long. IF > > > it fails, it will leave the old version installed. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > -- Alex Shaw Technical Manager BulletOnline www.bulletonline.com +44(0)2088343442 +44(0)7790744560 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:30:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7D716A4DD for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:30:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DF843D2F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:30:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FMTqQW013818; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:29:53 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: Alex Shaw Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:29:59 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> <200503151422.31618.kstewart@owt.com> <20050315142226.6f588666@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050315142226.6f588666@zaphod.icarix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151429.59754.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:30:04 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:22 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > I am using 5.3 .... I did however recently install compat4x ... could > that be related ? > No idea on that. I also have compat4x installed on 5.4-PRERELEASE. Did you add it in the kernel or as the port. I just noticed that I added the port. Kent > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:22:31 -0800 > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:08 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > > thanks for this ... i ran portupgrade -Rf libxml2 > > > > > > after a little time it returned the following > > > > What version of FreeBSD are you running? Could you be using a > > version that is too old? > > > > Kent > > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit > > > -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat > > > -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow > > > -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return > > > -Wstrict-prototypes > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls > > > -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so > > > -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' gmake[1]: > > > *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** > > > [all] Error 2 > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2. > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > /tmp/portupgrade2791.2 make** Fix the problem and try again. ** > > > Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > > > ! textproc/libxml2 (libxml2-2.6.13) (linker error) > > > ---> Packages processed: 2 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 > > > failed > > > > > > same problem :( > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:00:17 -0800 > > > > > > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:38 am, Alex Shaw wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error > > > > > is this: > > > > > > > > > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit > > > > > -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat > > > > > -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow > > > > > -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings > > > > > -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes > > > > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline > > > > > -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib > > > > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath > > > > > -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > > > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > > > > > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > > > > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples > > > > >' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' > > > > > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > > > > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > > > > > `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' gmake: *** > > > > > [all] Error 2 > > > > > *** Error code 2 > > > > > > > > > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all > > > > > produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 > > > > > and have been directed towards os help with the compiler, > > > > > apperntly the compiler includes are not in sync with the > > > > > installed libc. I know compat4x was installed recently and > > > > > dont know if this has and relation. > > > > > > > > > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml > > > > > list for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i > > > > > can get php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful > > > > > as I am out of my depth when it come to compilers and how > > > > > they work. > > > > > > > > > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im > > > > > away on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server > > > > > :(, so any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can > > > > > get back next week would be a start > > > > > > > > > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc > > > > > and it worked.... dont know how much this will help. > > > > > > > > FWIW, I have rebuilt in on 4-stable and 5-stable and didn't see > > > > your problem. I would suspect that you have a dependancy out of > > > > date. I don't think a "portugrade -Rf libxml2" would take long. > > > > IF it fails, it will leave the old version installed. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 7F4AC16A4D3; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:47:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:47:50 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Message-ID: <20050315224750.GU91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <2ea37626e35b2f0b32d78cfac908fd2a@clickbuild.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2ea37626e35b2f0b32d78cfac908fd2a@clickbuild.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help diagnosing crash + other oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:47:50 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:00:03PM -0800, Steve wrote: > Hi All, > > I have had some recent crashes and am trying to diagnose what might be > causing the problems. I'd really appreciate any suggestions or ideas on > where to look for info. > > crash: full on kernel panic. This seems to have been cause by me > stopping and restarting sendmail. I use a shell alias which stops, > waits and restarts sendmail. See [item 1] at the end of this message See the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers' handbook. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 22:55:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5E16A4DB for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:55:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745DE43D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:55:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so8059wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TzDmzhePQoO/kdWWkPNZ6Ws+EfLVrVpiERWCxg7Ofvgwk3j3w/wqXRDd8X0zV2WRnDgOOyAJR7sMkZRG+ByawMVaJjRQewRxY/BPcowzMFrVSpHLk4BGqyfI/J2wI/mJ1oiiZ6+i5pCUJoUpMclWyZpbnJci2TXejRphjWvATLw= Received: by 10.38.22.64 with SMTP id 64mr1099713rnv; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:55:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:55:33 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Thomas Foster In-Reply-To: <000601c52980$7e532ca0$4300a8c0@home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c52980$7e532ca0$4300a8c0@home.lan> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:55:43 -0000 ooooo magical ball who is the prettiest person on the freebsd mailing list me :) ooooo magical google ball what can you tell me about xserver http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-10a5fb670b3686b48d7b070635f593ac99d7ab5a ooooo magical xorg ball what can you tell me about xorg.conf Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "5" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 360 290 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "IVM" ModelName "HM903D/DT" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 30.0 - 132.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "ForcePCIMode" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" # [] #Option "CloneMode" # [] #Option "CloneHSync" # [] #Option "CloneVRefresh" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV350 [RADEON 9800 XT]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:02:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE8616A517 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:02:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E760843D3F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 1478 invoked by uid 1008); 15 Mar 2005 23:02:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 23:02:22 -0000 Received: from 68.165.89.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net); by mail.el.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:02:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:02:22 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: In-Reply-To: Subject: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:02:13 -0000 ok.. to day for a first time ever i saw this in my logs: /kernel: All mbuf clusters exhausted so i gotta up the kern.ipc.nmbclusters.. also what would be a decent nmbclusters to specify in the loader for a gig or ram and 2 gigs of swap? how many mbufs per cluster? also why is this client stuck in the netstat. how come Send-Q is so much?: # netstat -p tcp Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) ..... tcp4 0 22065 server.http c68.112.166.214..3318 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 31076 server.http c68.112.166.214..3317 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 32285 server.http c68.112.166.214..3316 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 32285 server.http c68.112.166.214..3315 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 32905 server.http c68.112.166.214..3314 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 31445 server.http c68.112.166.214..3313 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 33580 server.http c68.112.166.214..3312 FIN_WAIT_1 tcp4 0 31696 server.http c68.112.166.214..3311 FIN_WAIT_1 ..................... thanks... -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DED116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:12:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FD943D2D for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:12:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1266wri for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=td2CLfi2t5V8ficFbTnf5vLZZlIFpsaALU8TWhtxuhTl/m42m6KsYSBaQITJd6C19oWIqwuOEv3TL+PeowZTbcGajivERQ/J5flJx0h+JuRUJVIzhU/PsTwM/3e21x7nCllF2xri/zH7sLXicWlCqENqf6KjYSHWnVEYEQPVf8k= Received: by 10.38.22.64 with SMTP id 64mr1113056rnv; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:12:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:12:38 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Thomas Foster In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000601c52980$7e532ca0$4300a8c0@home.lan> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:12:39 -0000 portmanager -sl said i could safely delete it becuase it was a leaf so i nuked it :) after that i did a portmanager -u that resulted in a long sleep on my keyboard. It did not put the xserver thingies back. How ever i did some pkg_delete and portsclean at the same time to try to make portmanager faster because it was always checking the same dependency problems about gedit and nautulus and ... every time between compiling a new port. i know i know!!!! i said to the pc screen but portmanager did not listen and keep on checking and checking slowing down the hole process doing nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:30:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B4016A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:30:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sd-smtp04.wfinet.com (sd-smtp04.wfinet.com [12.149.167.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C2443D5A for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:30:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Artem.Koltsov@wfinet.com) Received: from sd-mail2.wfinet.com (Not Verified[10.1.1.103]) by sd-smtp04.wfinet.com with NetIQ MailMarshal (v5.5.6.5) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:40:12 -0800 Received: from sd-mail4.wfinet.com ([10.1.1.138] RDNS failed) by sd-mail2.wfinet.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:30:46 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:30:46 -0800 Message-ID: <1EA23548B834AB4E85CFCBB2C8EBA8880D0C91@SD-MAIL4.wfinet.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: unionfs double mount reboots the system on 5.3-STABLE Thread-Index: AcUptwJPAgsrrG7zRsGLsjmBmKUESg== From: "Artem Koltsov" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 23:30:46.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[03988B90:01C529B7] Subject: unionfs double mount reboots the system on 5.3-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:30:47 -0000 I tried to build jails on top of one distribution and found the following= =20problem. How to repeat: !!!!!WARNING: IT MAY REBOOT YOUR SYSTEM!!!!! mkdir test cd test mkdir a mkdir a-ro mkdir a-ro-rw echo "aaaa" >> a/file1 mount -v -t unionfs -o ro ~/test/a ~/test/a-ro mount -v -t unionfs -o -b ~/test/a-ro ~/test/a-ro-rw vi a-ro-rw/file1 ##### <<<<<<< will reboot here mount before reboot: :/root/test/a on /root/test/a-ro (unionfs, local, read-only, noclu= sterw) :/root/test/a-ro on /root/test/a-ro-rw (unionfs, noclusterw) uname -a FreeBSD local.local.internal 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #14: Sat Feb 2= 6 19:09:37 EST 2005 root@local.local.internal:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CU= STOM i386 Can anyone repeat it and let me know if you have the same result? Any sug= gestions what it could be? Thanks! Artem Koltsov Resource Management Wireless Facilities, Inc. =A0 Attention: Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, e= xcept where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to = state them to be the views of any such entity. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:44:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EE16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:44:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977643D5E for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDF0080D3AK2O@smtp15.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2FNhiwC004737; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:43:44 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2FNhhoQ004736; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:43:43 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:43:43 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200503151353.j2FDrQv21470@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Jerry McAllister Message-id: <20050315234343.GH794@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050315131001.GA794@Alex.lan> <200503151353.j2FDrQv21470@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Jason Henson Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:44:47 -0000 > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 02:12:46AM +0000, Jason Henson wrote: > > > What is in your windows boot.ini file? > > > > > > > > > On 03/14/05 11:13:49, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > > > > >I've recently reinstalled windows. Windows removes the MBR as you > > > >know. > > > >So ather I installed it I set partion 1 (FreeBSD) active and > > > >rebooted. > > > >Then I followed the handbook and did fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0. Now > > > >I > > > >get the orginal screen afther booting. Only it beeps when I press F2 > > > >(Windows). I can mount the second partion on FreeBSD, but cant boot. > > > >Any > > > >ideas to what I'm missing here? > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:53:25AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Windows was able to boot afhter I installed it. I never touched > > boot.ini. The content would have been: > > > > [boot loader] > > timeout=30 > > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS > > [operating systems] > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > > > > I now use a different solution. Instead of the freebsd bootloader > > (boot0). I now use the windows bootloader. I copied boot1 to > > c:\freebsd.bin. Then modified windows boot.ini as follow: > > > > [boot loader] > > timeout=10 > > default=c:\freebsd.bin > > [operating systems] > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > > Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > > c:\freebsd.bin="FreeBSD 5" > > > > This works for me. I still wonder why the stuff below didn't work. In > > the past I would do this with /stand/sysinstall. But I don't dare to do > > this with FreeBSD 5 because of drive geometric warnings. > > > > Remember there are two boot blocks, so to speak. > There is the MBR that lets you choose which slice to boot. There is > only one of those per disk and it lives in "sector 0" of the disk. > The MBR generally has a standard calling sequence (that the Bios calls) > and sets things up to a fairly standard condition and looks for > standard appearing boot sectors in slices and makes a standard > call to the selected slice's boot sector. Almost any MBR that > knows how to recognize a standard boot sector in a slice and lets > you choose between them if there are more than one can be used > interchangeably. > > Then there is the boot block with the actual boot loader that starts > pulling the OS from the bootable partition. On a multi boot disk > there are several - one per each bootable slice and they live in the > boot sector of each slice. Those are specific to the OS they are > booting. Though their calling sequence is standard, what they have > to do to load and start their own OS is not. Is it posible to boot one OS if you only have the MBR? > I am guessing that you managed to overwrite or damage the MS slice' > boot sector while you were doing things, or didn't get it written > to the slice properly when you reloaded or something like that. > Even though you put the MBR back with FreeBSD's fdisk, did you > also make sure that the MS slice had its own boot loader? Anyway > you did when you put the MS boot loader back. So it works now. The previous time I first installed windows and then FreeBSD 5. The difference this time is that I didn't use /stand/sysinstall. This because I would get into serious troubel. (I never found out how to force the right geometry) So I was thinking maybe sysinstall does something (like copy the MBR to the second boot location) that I didn't do manualy. I used the windows method for when something goes wrong (i.e. reboot) and just reinstalled Windows. A added bonus is that I now have one OS as default instead the last used. I alway was annoyed about loading the previous used. I only want to use Windows if I have to (mostly for word - there language functionality is superb). Tanks for you time. Appricate it. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:46:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA8216A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:46:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A116243D39 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from talonz@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1397wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t3mH7Z8G2cc0ShZCzI9FKH6knQnhKZVRZVNzvO7FPoZTHtOMUS2iBq3+/JDtlceMlLhhb5mh02wmOzFBtGk96lz3DdCBE72CRuPmoYv/hu/a1n9ydaRJ7UqFhsn+W4dt3lCM7Fvc7JDgFLs9REeP+PdquL5x3yhbdFawxd986LQ= Received: by 10.38.90.57 with SMTP id n57mr1143013rnb; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.27 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:46:43 +1100 From: Jason M aka Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Imapd SASL Auxprop problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: talon@unix.org.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:46:46 -0000 If I am posting to the wrong forum please feel free to flame my sox off Hi All I have a problem with my cyrus imap / mysql install after 3 days on google looking around i am ripping my hair out I have tried everything i have found in the faq's / howto's but just cant seem to get it to work. Postfix works nicely and delivers to maildir etc when i use the sasldb for cyrus i have no problems users can log in auxprop has not been nice to me grrrr. If any one has the time could they have a look at my configuration and give me a pointer on what I am doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated Jason M aka Talon (talonz[at]gmail.com) ####################################################################################################################################### ## version information OS FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Postfix Version postfix 2.1.5 MySQL server version: 5.0.0-alpha Cyrus Version cyrus-imapd 2.2.10 SASL Version cyrus-sasl 2.1.20 All installed from ports ####################################################################################################################################### ## /var/log/messages :: Errors when imapd is started forsaken master[60842]: process started forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: recovering cyrus databases forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/mailboxes.db (3 records, 584 bytes) in 0 seconds forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/annotations.db (0 records, 144 bytes) in 0 seconds forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: done recovering cyrus databases forsaken master[60842]: unable to create lmtpunix listener socket: No such file or directory forsaken master[60842]: ready for work forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: checkpointing cyrus databases forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: done checkpointing cyrus databases ####################################################################################################################################### ## Login errors (after telnet localhost imap // o login test test) forsaken imap[60846]: sql_select option missing forsaken imap[60846]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db forsaken imap[60846]: badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1] plaintext test SASL(-13): user not found: checkpass failed ####################################################################################################################################### ## Start Configuration ####################################################################################################################################### ## postfix main.cf queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix command_directory = /usr/local/sbin daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix mail_owner = postfix myhostname = forsaken.unix.org.au mydomain = unix.org.au inet_interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 relay_domains = $mydestination debug_peer_level = 2 debugger_command = PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5 sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq setgid_group = maildrop html_directory = no manpage_directory = /usr/local/man sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix readme_directory = no # header/body checking header_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/header_checks body_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/body_checks # use cyrus or virtual mailbox_transport = cyrus virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf virtual_gid_maps = static:125 virtual_mailbox_base = /usr/local/virtual virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000 virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf virtual_minimum_uid = 125 # use cyrus or virtual virtual_transport = virtual virtual_uid_maps = static:125 virtual_create_maildirsize = yes virtual_mailbox_extended = yes virtual_mailbox_limit_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_limit_maps.cf virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes virtual_maildir_limit_message = Sorry, Account Is Suspended. (This User Has Exeeded There Quota Limit). virtual_overquota_bounce = yes # sasl settings for cyrus broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_invalid_hostname, reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous ####################################################################################################################################### ## cyrus.conf START { recover cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r" } SERVICES { # add or remove based on preferences imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=0 pop3 cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=0 lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=0 } EVENTS { checkpoint cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=30 delprune cmd="cyr_expire -E 3" at=0400 tlsprune cmd="tls_prune" at=0400 } ####################################################################################################################################### ## imapd.conf configdirectory: /var/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap servername: forsaken.unix.org.au allowanonymouslogin: no allowplaintext: yes admins: cyrus root sieveusehomedir: false sievedir: /var/imap/sieve sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_mech_list: plain cram-md5 digest-md5 lmtpsocket: /var/imap/socket/lmtp ####################################################################################################################################### ## smtpd.conf sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_auxprop_plugin: sql sasl_sql_engine: mysql sasl_mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 sasl_sql_hostnames: localhost sasl_sql_user: postfix sasl_sql_passwd: postfix_password sasl_sql_database: postfix sasl_sql_verbose: yes sasl_sql_select: SELECT password FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%u' ####################################################################################################################################### From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:53:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FD416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6AC43D31 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from fat_man.ascendency.net ([67.175.78.52]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031523534801600hjj6be>; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:53:48 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (c-67-173-128-145.client.comcast.net [67.173.128.145]) (authenticated) by fat_man.ascendency.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2FNuVC18378; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:56:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Message-Id: <200503152356.j2FNuVC18378@fat_man.ascendency.net> From: "Mike Loiterman" To: "'Danny Howard'" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:53:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <42372F20.80308@toldme.com> Thread-Index: AcUpqrPwzF+LhsL2QBGdK5sOlM0m1wADyEVw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:53:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Danny Howard wrote: > Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that is compatible with 5.3? >> The 3ware ones listed in the hardware notes are pretty >> expensive...over a hundred dollars for the lowest end card. Is 5.3 >> compatible with any of the adpatec or promise cards? >> >> > What kind of RAID do you want? For a simple system-level RAID1, skip > the hardware and go with gmirror. > > -danny RAID1. I'm looking into gmirror, but it seems like it might be messy if one of the drives dies. - ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjd0+2jZbUnRudGOEQJIxgCeKQ20gfa3FhBC1UFtjo5Ecunob1AAn0C5 HmD3Rx0QdTB46Q/p5sn0yi0d =6L7V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:56:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F53F16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF78743D4C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:56:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamesd.earl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so3373wra for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:56:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EeUeJtUF7Jkk9mBoIR7R3YuIfFWnsZDYGYtPP59V5N2YNi1naxQddefl14Jg2794Vp59cpOQyM0TJknTaHvhaAwYthlWUF7Pj22Xud3egiVPY7nGD102AefYYEcgd6kn32Y4bHMMBY6lbWcVZS3tD6A1GhHZ3BgMcbuIQde13Ss= Received: by 10.54.27.49 with SMTP id a49mr599187wra; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.14 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:56:33 -0700 From: James Earl To: hmiller@intradyn.com, nkinkade@ub.edu.bz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050315214610.GP8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050315214610.GP8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Subject: Re: Advice on integrated video on friends system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@icionline.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:56:37 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:46:10 -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > > I don't know about Xorg and hardware compatibility for an ATI Rage Pro > chip, but from what you are describing I would tend to point to an > issue with the monitor settings rather than the video card itself. If > the monitor is old, then EDID information may not be available from the > monitor, so Xorg may just try some default monitor setting that don't > happen to work with that monitor. Have you done some searches for Hsync > and Vertical Refresh rates for the monitor in question? Once you know > these values (ranges), you can set them manually in the xorg.conf file > under the section titled "Monitor". For example: > > Section "Monitor" > > HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 > VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 > EndSection > > As far as losing control of the display, but apparently still having > control of the keyboard, is the machine on a network? Can you possibly > ssh into the box and control it remotely? > > Nathan I tested out a GNOME LiveCD, and it worked, so I've made a copy of the xorg.conf file and will give it a try later on tonight. The xorg.conf used was more sparce compared to the one that I generated using Xorg -configure, so hopefully this will be the ticket. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 23:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3E816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 432CB43D1F for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:58:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@68.248.226.120 with plain) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 23:58:47 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gert Cuykens Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:58:00 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503151758.00873.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:58:52 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:12 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: > portmanager -sl said i could safely delete it becuase it was a leaf > so i nuked it :) > > after that i did a portmanager -u that resulted in a long sleep on my > keyboard. It did not put the xserver thingies back. How ever i did > some pkg_delete and portsclean at the same time to try to make > portmanager faster because it was always checking the same dependency > problems about gedit and nautulus and ... every time between > compiling a new port. i know i know!!!! i said to the pc screen but > portmanager did not listen and keep on checking and checking slowing > down the hole process doing nothing. So Gert, did you put your missing xorg ports back in. I also have to tell you, just because - portmanager or pkg-cutleaves - says that it's OK to take something out, doesn't mean it's so, it tells you that you better know what you are taking out. In point of fact - it's not nice to nuke your xorg ports, Don -- Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm I'm not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. Besides, I have a really great Airedale. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:03:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:03:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945C443D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:03:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2G03UXm084109 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id j2G03UJa084108 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:03:31 -0000 People, I must have bumped into this before, but it still stumps me. What would my sendmail on sage/ns1.thought.org get a "Connection refused" from my major server, tao.thought.org? Mail is queued in ns1. Any ideas what I'm missing in /etc OR /etc/mail in my new FreeBSD?? thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:06:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B3D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED2143D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2G05xY24480; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503160005.j2G05xY24480@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl (Alex de Kruijff) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:05:58 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050315234343.GH794@Alex.lan> from "Alex de Kruijff" at Mar 16, 2005 12:43:43 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Jason Henson Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:05 -0000 > > > timeout=10 > > > default=c:\freebsd.bin > > > [operating systems] > > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > > > Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > > > c:\freebsd.bin="FreeBSD 5" > > > > > > This works for me. I still wonder why the stuff below didn't work. In > > > the past I would do this with /stand/sysinstall. But I don't dare to do > > > this with FreeBSD 5 because of drive geometric warnings. > > > > > > > Remember there are two boot blocks, so to speak. > > There is the MBR that lets you choose which slice to boot. There is > > only one of those per disk and it lives in "sector 0" of the disk. > > The MBR generally has a standard calling sequence (that the Bios calls) > > and sets things up to a fairly standard condition and looks for > > standard appearing boot sectors in slices and makes a standard > > call to the selected slice's boot sector. Almost any MBR that > > knows how to recognize a standard boot sector in a slice and lets > > you choose between them if there are more than one can be used > > interchangeably. > > > > Then there is the boot block with the actual boot loader that starts > > pulling the OS from the bootable partition. On a multi boot disk > > there are several - one per each bootable slice and they live in the > > boot sector of each slice. Those are specific to the OS they are > > booting. Though their calling sequence is standard, what they have > > to do to load and start their own OS is not. > > Is it posible to boot one OS if you only have the MBR? No, you need the boot sector. If you have only that in the first location, you can boot without an full MBR, I think, but not without the boot sector that the MBR loads and jumps to. > > > I am guessing that you managed to overwrite or damage the MS slice' > > boot sector while you were doing things, or didn't get it written > > to the slice properly when you reloaded or something like that. > > Even though you put the MBR back with FreeBSD's fdisk, did you > > also make sure that the MS slice had its own boot loader? Anyway > > you did when you put the MS boot loader back. So it works now. > > The previous time I first installed windows and then FreeBSD 5. The > difference this time is that I didn't use /stand/sysinstall. This > because I would get into serious troubel. (I never found out how to > force the right geometry) So I was thinking maybe sysinstall does > something (like copy the MBR to the second boot location) that I didn't > do manualy. I think you are using MBR for boot sector. The MBR is what goes in sector 0 of the disk itself. The boot sector/record/block goes in the first sector of the slice. The MBR lets you pick the slice you want to boot and then loads its boot sector/block/record and jumps to it in a standard location. ////jerry > > I used the windows method for when something goes wrong (i.e. reboot) > and just reinstalled Windows. A added bonus is that I now have one OS as > default instead the last used. I alway was annoyed about loading the > previous used. I only want to use Windows if I have to (mostly for > word - there language functionality is superb). > > > Tanks for you time. Appricate it. > > -- > Alex > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:06:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFE43D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DBM3n-000IrY-VH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:06:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:06:51 -0500 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316000651.GA71918@sockeye.firmanix.com> References: <42372F20.80308@toldme.com> <200503152356.j2FNuVC18378@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503152356.j2FNuVC18378@fat_man.ascendency.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:06:49 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:53:30PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > > RAID1. I'm looking into gmirror, but it seems like it might be messy if > one of the drives dies. What makes you say that? I have gmirror running and I simulated drive failures on both controllers, and reconstructed the provider with no problems. Even did some hard power failures and everthing worked fine. Gmirror is very nice! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:14:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7566F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D5543D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2G0Eki1007032; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2G0EhQa014717; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:14:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> References: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:14:43 -0500 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:14:47 -0000 On Mar 15, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > I must have bumped into this before, but it still stumps me. > What would my sendmail on sage/ns1.thought.org get a > "Connection refused" from my major server, tao.thought.org? > Mail is queued in ns1. DNS for that address is broken, so sendmail on the other machine is unable to get a valid a record to make a connection, so you get "connection refused": 5-pi% dig tao.thought.org. ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tao.thought.org. ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21895 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tao.thought.org. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: thought.org. 600 IN SOA ns1.thought.org. hostmaster.thought.org. 2005021201 3600 300 2419200 3600 -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:18:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604F416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:18:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D09C43D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex.shaw@bulletonline.com) Received: from zaphod.icarix.net ([12.7.93.4]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:19:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:17:47 +0000 From: Alex Shaw To: Alex Shaw Message-ID: <20050315161747.28b30e19@zaphod.icarix.net> In-Reply-To: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> References: <20050315133834.6c4fa792@zaphod.icarix.net> Organization: BulletOnline X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 00:19:33.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4171F10:01C529BD] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libxml2 complier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:18:59 -0000 Finally ive managed to solve this problem by copying /usr/lib/libm.so.3 from the backup server onto the corrupt box. this fixed all the problems i was having ......(why oh why didnt I try this earlier) my only problem now is I cant understand why this file may have been changed. The last thing done before the failure was to install compat4x from the ports. Can anyone help me understand what happened or how this file was replaced, my understanding is that ports stuff is installed into / regards Alex On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:38:34 +0000 Alex Shaw wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have a problem compiling libxml2 from the ports. the error is this: > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > gmake[3]: *** [xpath1] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc/examples' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18/doc' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2/work/libxml2-2.6.18' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Ive tried compiling several different versions of libxml all produce the same error. I contacted the xml list for libxml2 and have been directed towards os help with the compiler, apperntly the compiler includes are not in sync with the installed libc. I know compat4x was installed recently and dont know if this has and relation. > > I have included the text of the conversation on the libxml list for reference, Ideally I need to get this back up so i can get php-xml to run. Any suggestions here would be useful as I am out of my depth when it come to compilers and how they work. > > unfortuantly rebuilding the box is out of the question, im away on a busiessness trip about 10000 miles from the server :(, so any solution that might be a temporary fix till i can get back next week would be a start > > Also worth noting I complied a "hello world" app to test gcc and it worked.... dont know how much this will help. > > Regards > > Alex > -- > Alex Shaw > > > > Hi, im trying to install libxml2-2.6.18 from the FreeBSD ports, there is a problem with the compile on the system i am using. I have tried several versions of libxml2 and they all return the same error, which means its probably not an issue involved with libxml, but I cant pin down where the error is coming from, or what is causing the problem to occur. I was hoping someone on this list would be able to point me in the direction of what is causing this. > > > > The error is: > > cc -O -pipe -pedantic -W -Wformat -Wunused -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wswitch -Wcomment -Wtrigraphs -Wformat -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wparentheses -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -Waggregate-return -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Winline -Wredundant-decls -o .libs/xpath1 xpath1.o -L/usr/local/lib ../../.libs/libxml2.so -lz -liconv -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib > > ../../.libs/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `__signbit' > > paphio:~/XML -> grep __signbit *.c > paphio:~/XML -> grep __signbit *.c include/libxml/*.h > paphio:~/XML -> > > Somehow your system or compiler includes are not in synch with your > installed libc, sounds bad, but you're right it doesn't sound like a > libxml2 problem. > The great thing about those systems where everybody recompiles locally is > that you don't have the same system as your neighbour, this is also its > main drawback, you're on your own to debug the problem... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:29:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FFB16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:29:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ratchet.nebcorp.com (ratchet.nebcorp.com [205.217.153.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DE443D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:29:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djh@nebcorp.com) Received: by ratchet.nebcorp.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) id D9195D9848; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:29:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:29:41 -0600 From: Danny Howard To: Mike Loiterman Message-ID: <20050316002941.GG44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> References: <42372F20.80308@toldme.com> <200503152356.j2FNuVC18378@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503152356.j2FNuVC18378@fat_man.ascendency.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:29:43 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:53:30PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that is compatible with 5.3? > >> The 3ware ones listed in the hardware notes are pretty > >> expensive...over a hundred dollars for the lowest end card. Is 5.3 > >> compatible with any of the adpatec or promise cards? > >> > > What kind of RAID do you want? For a simple system-level RAID1, skip > > the hardware and go with gmirror. > > RAID1. I'm looking into gmirror, but it seems like it might be messy if > one of the drives dies. Mike, Messy how? You keep an eye on "gmirror list" and it will tell you if one of the disks has died. If a disk dies, you swap in an RMA, and rebuild the mirror. If "swap in the RMA" involves downtime, then gmirror will see the new disk at boot and DTRT. Or have you seen too many horror stories on the mailing lists? Currently, I have a whole bunch of systems with one-off 3ware or Adaptec controllers, and I don't know how to monitor them reliably. I tried doing a 3ware a month or two back, and there was this crazy race between how old the binary versus the kernel module versus the firmware was and I just gave up. Grr! As RAID1 solutions go, gmirror take a lot of the headache out of administration. IMO, YMMV, and I have daily backups ... -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:44:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249CB16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CF743D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDF006Q162J2M62@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AEC042CE75B; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:44:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:44:41 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503151644.42269.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:44 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 03:12 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: > portmanager -sl said i could safely delete it becuase it was a leaf > so i nuked it :) > > after that i did a portmanager -u that resulted in a long sleep on my > keyboard. It did not put the xserver thingies back. How ever i did > some pkg_delete and portsclean at the same time to try to make > portmanager faster because it was always checking the same dependency > problems about gedit and nautulus and ... every time between > compiling a new port. i know i know!!!! i said to the pc screen but > portmanager did not listen and keep on checking and checking slowing > down the hole process doing nothing. Gert, you "helped" portmanager by pkg_delete'ing things while it was running? I must say, never expected that to be done by a user, how did it work out? -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:44:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5583716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831CD43D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so2271387rng for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:44:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RIOuxlLNmLpNST7ivKrq5w0S3LYO/bd4gjNaND1aODwQfBga2evmENxs5VSNZI0JFa6pmgJTB2Xj1N5q9KMV3yTpy6rrY9CoZdH5F0qx8X7fHmjTrQXXxmNqYNPYy5Dxy4q/9K2BoZ3R4r27RVrEVSPb4RtixU0KedSB1ySNP6U= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr10482rnb; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:44:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:44:54 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Donald J. O'Neill" In-Reply-To: <200503151758.00873.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503151758.00873.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:56 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:58:00 -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 05:12 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > portmanager -sl said i could safely delete it becuase it was a leaf > > so i nuked it :) > > > > after that i did a portmanager -u that resulted in a long sleep on my > > keyboard. It did not put the xserver thingies back. How ever i did > > some pkg_delete and portsclean at the same time to try to make > > portmanager faster because it was always checking the same dependency > > problems about gedit and nautulus and ... every time between > > compiling a new port. i know i know!!!! i said to the pc screen but > > portmanager did not listen and keep on checking and checking slowing > > down the hole process doing nothing. > > So Gert, did you put your missing xorg ports back in. I also have to > tell you, just because - portmanager or pkg-cutleaves - says that it's > OK to take something out, doesn't mean it's so, it tells you that you > better know what you are taking out. In point of fact - it's not nice > to nuke your xorg ports, yep it works, installing the xorg fonts from ports did the trick :) thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:45:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9D616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:45:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1434D43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:45:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2G0jYgs084296; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:45:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id j2G0jX6w084295; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:45:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:45:33 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050316004533.GC84161@thought.org> References: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:45:35 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:14:43PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 15, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > I must have bumped into this before, but it still stumps me. > > What would my sendmail on sage/ns1.thought.org get a > > "Connection refused" from my major server, tao.thought.org? > > Mail is queued in ns1. > > DNS for that address is broken, so sendmail on the other machine is > unable to get a valid a record to make a connection, so you get > "connection refused": > tao is on my private 10.0.0.247 IP. I *have* added ns1.thought.org to my /etc/mail/access file and did a "# make maps"; I also reinitialized sendmail. Still get "Connection refused" /etc/hosts* andn /etc/resolv.conf look good. What else?? gary > 5-pi% dig tao.thought.org. > ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tao.thought.org. > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21895 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;tao.thought.org. IN A > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > thought.org. 600 IN SOA ns1.thought.org. > hostmaster.thought.org. 2005021201 3600 300 2419200 3600 > > -- > -Chuck > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:55:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F66216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6D643D5C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:55:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so2273276rng for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=l8Ef7JZknp31drruINJfjig1BhOotOxutnSjxz6CLPhIZxexuXAO93Muagjih9wnqO7k/3N4jI6zyDSPaNkiFUt7nEbSsnAJRbYZNpESUE4ITdHvsz5zs7iJ+N/EVVdOaVNSlzF7MyFoz8hNSDQ1ZAfwzBN1APwlHG0OcMwsDKY= Received: by 10.38.9.58 with SMTP id 58mr13311rni; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:55:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:55:28 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503151644.42269.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503151644.42269.ringworm01@gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error xserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:55:30 -0000 > Gert, you "helped" portmanager by pkg_delete'ing things while it was > running? I must say, never expected that to be done by a user, how did > it work out? > > -Mike Great :) No more bodering me with dependency thingies when he began the next upgrade. Also i runed two portmanagers at the same time one portmanager -u the other portmanager -s to see how many things he has done allready :) Works great i even trowed in a portsclean , portsdb -u , pkgdb -F All worked well except the portsclean cleaned a working directory while it was compiling :) oops... Nothing happend doh portmanager just took the next upgrade. Would be cool if portmanager had also a cleaning feature like portsclean so i can nuke portupgrade :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:56:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F253416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:56:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lists.surfnetkids.com (lists.surfnetkids.com [69.25.194.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF3643D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bounce-312473-1123525@lists.surfnetkids.com) Message-Id: X-lyris-type: unsubscribed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Lyris ListManager" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:56:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Surfing the Net with Kids] Goodbye X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:56:22 -0000 This message confirms your cancellation of the free weekly "Surfing the Net with Kids" newsletter. ................................. 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If you would like to sign up under a different email address, you can do so at: http://www.surfnetkids.com/emailedition.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 00:59:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416FC16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:59:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27F043D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from talonz@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so2274838rng for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:59:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CAqFa0YjG2JzRNMYXmq2XRD4Z78XGU+Bwxt5wLb1Ecpyuau6aYYYVpO1oAwJGlDlfKR7N9vJd+LqMM4eRqiA+aV/D0ednIdetE+sIaLbIjXQAdwIadqHcqIerQaZJaEu7h4kRv3QJDEQrOvByn6gP9hplv7+GtPyx1IscOakHfI= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr14024rni; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.27 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:59:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:59:48 +1100 From: Jason M aka Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mysql postfix SASL cyrus imap problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: talon@unix.org.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:59:50 -0000 Sorry if this was a double post my subscribe was not working :( Im not sure if the original mail went through. Hi All I have a problem with my cyrus imap / mysql install after 3 days on google looking around i am ripping my hair out I have tried everything i have found in the faq's / howto's but just cant seem to get it to work. Postfix works nicely and delivers to maildir etc when i use the sasldb for cyrus i have no problems users can log in auxprop has not been nice to me grrrr. If any one has the time could they have a look at my configuration and give me a pointer on what I am doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated Regards Jason M aka Talon (talonz[at]gmail.com) ####################################################################################################################################### ## version information OS FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Postfix Version postfix 2.1.5 MySQL server version: 5.0.0-alpha Cyrus Version cyrus-imapd 2.2.10 SASL Version cyrus-sasl 2.1.20 All installed from ports ####################################################################################################################################### ## /var/log/messages :: Errors when imapd is started forsaken master[60842]: process started forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: recovering cyrus databases forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/mailboxes.db (3 records, 584 bytes) in 0 seconds forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered /var/imap/annotations.db (0 records, 144 bytes) in 0 seconds forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: done recovering cyrus databases forsaken master[60842]: unable to create lmtpunix listener socket: No such file or directory forsaken master[60842]: ready for work forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: checkpointing cyrus databases forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: done checkpointing cyrus databases ####################################################################################################################################### ## Login errors (after telnet localhost imap // o login test test) ## this is the bit that has me stumped forsaken imap[60846]: sql_select option missing forsaken imap[60846]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db forsaken imap[60846]: badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1] plaintext test SASL(-13): user not found: checkpass failed ####################################################################################################################################### ## Start Configuration ####################################################################################################################################### ## postfix main.cf queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix command_directory = /usr/local/sbin daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix mail_owner = postfix myhostname = forsaken.unix.org.au mydomain = unix.org.au inet_interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 relay_domains = $mydestination debug_peer_level = 2 debugger_command = PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5 sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq setgid_group = maildrop html_directory = no manpage_directory = /usr/local/man sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix readme_directory = no # header/body checking header_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/header_checks body_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/body_checks # use cyrus or virtual mailbox_transport = cyrus virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf virtual_gid_maps = static:125 virtual_mailbox_base = /usr/local/virtual virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000 virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf virtual_minimum_uid = 125 # use cyrus or virtual virtual_transport = virtual virtual_uid_maps = static:125 virtual_create_maildirsize = yes virtual_mailbox_extended = yes virtual_mailbox_limit_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_limit_maps.cf virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes virtual_maildir_limit_message = Sorry, Account Is Suspended. (This User Has Exeeded There Quota Limit). virtual_overquota_bounce = yes # sasl settings for cyrus broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_invalid_hostname, reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous ####################################################################################################################################### ## cyrus.conf START { recover cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r" } SERVICES { # add or remove based on preferences imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=0 pop3 cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=0 lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=0 } EVENTS { checkpoint cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=30 delprune cmd="cyr_expire -E 3" at=0400 tlsprune cmd="tls_prune" at=0400 } ####################################################################################################################################### ## imapd.conf configdirectory: /var/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap servername: forsaken.unix.org.au allowanonymouslogin: no allowplaintext: yes admins: cyrus root sieveusehomedir: false sievedir: /var/imap/sieve sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_mech_list: plain cram-md5 digest-md5 lmtpsocket: /var/imap/socket/lmtp ####################################################################################################################################### ## smtpd.conf sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_auxprop_plugin: sql sasl_sql_engine: mysql sasl_mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 sasl_sql_hostnames: localhost sasl_sql_user: postfix sasl_sql_passwd: postfix_password sasl_sql_database: postfix sasl_sql_verbose: yes sasl_sql_select: SELECT password FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%u' ####################################################################################################################################### From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 01:12:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714E216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:12:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lists.surfnetkids.com (lists.surfnetkids.com [69.25.194.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B50743D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bounce-312494-1123525@lists.surfnetkids.com) Message-Id: X-lyris-type: unsubscribed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Lyris ListManager" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:12:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Surfing the Net with Kids] Goodbye X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:12:16 -0000 This message confirms your cancellation of the free weekly "Surfing the Net with Kids" newsletter. ................................. 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If you would like to sign up under a different email address, you can do so at: http://www.surfnetkids.com/emailedition.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 01:37:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6E16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F72443D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from fat_man.ascendency.net ([67.175.78.52]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200503160137390110060kuue>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:39 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (c-67-173-128-145.client.comcast.net [67.173.128.145]) (authenticated) by fat_man.ascendency.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2G1eQC18725; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:40:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Message-Id: <200503160140.j2G1eQC18725@fat_man.ascendency.net> From: "Mike Loiterman" To: "'Danny Howard'" Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:37:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050316002941.GG44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> Thread-Index: AcUpw1yrtb0kxpl2QaG1W4xfFN1ukgABEl6w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Danny Howard wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:53:30PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >>>> Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that is compatible with 5.3? The >>>> 3ware ones listed in the hardware notes are pretty >>>> expensive...over a hundred dollars for the lowest end card. Is 5.3 >>>> compatible with any of the adpatec or promise cards? >>>> >>> What kind of RAID do you want? For a simple system-level RAID1, >>> skip the hardware and go with gmirror. >> >> RAID1. I'm looking into gmirror, but it seems like it might be >> messy if one of the drives dies. > > Mike, > > Messy how? You keep an eye on "gmirror list" and it will tell you if > one of the disks has died. If a disk dies, you swap in an RMA, and > rebuild the mirror. If "swap in the RMA" involves downtime, then > gmirror will see the new disk at boot and DTRT. > > Or have you seen too many horror stories on the mailing lists? > > Currently, I have a whole bunch of systems with one-off 3ware > or Adaptec > controllers, and I don't know how to monitor them reliably. I tried > doing a 3ware a month or two back, and there was this crazy > race between > how old the binary versus the kernel module versus the > firmware was and > I just gave up. Grr! As RAID1 solutions go, gmirror take a > lot of the > headache out of administration. > > IMO, YMMV, and I have daily backups ... I tried following the instructions at: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ and couldn't make it work. I ended up installing a minimal installation on one disk, reooting to the new install, doing atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6, then rebooting to the install CD and installing into ar0. This seems to have worked. Is your solution better? - ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjeMnWjZbUnRudGOEQJc9QCg2HAycZ+65GrsJsdEAdinpX/oCOIAnAxn 4jrBbh1vGKr/aNeB93+2VxrP =9Q3N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 01:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B6216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AFF43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA34306; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:36:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:37:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: mccyron@kc.rr.com In-Reply-To: <42371BD4.5070506@bouncebk.com> Message-ID: <20050315203241.O36450@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <42371BD4.5070506@bouncebk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wav from sound card line in X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:37:51 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, McCy Ron wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 4.10 and would like to make WAV format recordings > from my sound card's "line in" channel with some sort of "command > line" utility. I've been successful in finding other sorts of ports > and packages to rip CDs and play Wavs and MP3s but have yet to find > anything in the software descriptions that address this need. audio/gramofile might work for you, though I haven't thoroughly tested it myself. See http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 01:49:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394E516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:49:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B995743D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.234] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G1nM5F048631 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:49:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:49:00 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:49:28 -0000 I have the port flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 installed (using firefox-1.0.1_2,1). I find that it crashes firefox pretty consistently. However, a quick grep of flash in the ports reveals these: flash-0.9.5 flashplugin-0.4.3 flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12 flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2 linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1 linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1 Should I be using one of these? What are they all!? :c) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 01:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7768516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:57:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE4243D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E9DC62673; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:57:47 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 5ggseRtj9YkKo4uwJIC9KQ 1110938266 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (SPARKY-1.msns.sm.ptd.net [24.229.114.177]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828C125535; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4237929B.8050709@fastmail.fm> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:57:47 -0500 From: Jud User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20050128) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madhusudan Singh References: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> <46530.128.221.197.136.1110902918.squirrel@mail.scadian.net> <200503151124.45414.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503151124.45414.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dovecot is broken in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:57:50 -0000 Madhusudan Singh wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:08, Jim Trigg wrote: > >>On Mon, March 14, 2005 11:43 pm, Madhusudan Singh said: >> >>>Hi >>> >>> Just want to report that dovecot seems to be broken : >>> >>>===> Returning to build of dovecot-0.99.14 >>>===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: sasl2.2 - found >>>===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found >>>===> dovecot-0.99.14 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found >> >>[snip] >> >> >>>install: /usr/ports/mail/dovecot/work/dovecot-0.99.14/src/imap/imap: No >>>such >>>file or directory >>>*** Error code 71 >> >>It looks to me like the problem must be in the ldap integration; I just >>upgraded my copy last night with no problems, and do use sasl but not >>ldap. >> >>Jim > > > Thanks for your response. > > However, any attempt to clean it, remove gnutls (pkg_delete) and install it > again fails with : > > ===> dovecot-0.99.14 Currently incompatible with security/gnutls. > > I do not have gnutls installed now (just removed it). Why should I get this > message (even after make clean and make distclean) ? # make config will allow you to redo your config choices and select SSL rather than GNUTLS, support for which is broken in Dovecot itself ATM, thus in the port also. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 02:21:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D9416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ratchet.nebcorp.com (ratchet.nebcorp.com [205.217.153.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D6043D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:20:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djh@nebcorp.com) Received: by ratchet.nebcorp.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) id 1827BD9838; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:20:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:20:59 -0600 From: Danny Howard To: Mike Loiterman Message-ID: <20050316022058.GH44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> References: <20050316002941.GG44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> <200503160140.j2G1eQC18725@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503160140.j2G1eQC18725@fat_man.ascendency.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:21:00 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:37:24PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > I tried following the instructions at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ and couldn't make it work. > > I ended up installing a minimal installation on one disk, reooting to the > new install, doing atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6, then rebooting to the > install CD and installing into ar0. This seems to have worked. This all sounds extremely familiar. I did all of this, and it made me very quesy. So, I ripped it out and tried again. > Is your solution better? You can deliver your own opinion, my resolution is at: http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ Cheers, -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 02:55:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC7016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5F943D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:55:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from fat_man.ascendency.net ([67.175.78.52]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031602553801500405ace>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:55:38 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (c-67-173-128-145.client.comcast.net [67.173.128.145]) (authenticated) by fat_man.ascendency.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2G2wMC18965 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:58:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Message-Id: <200503160258.j2G2wMC18965@fat_man.ascendency.net> From: "Mike Loiterman" To: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:55:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcUp0cR7YPUdWMtYRBmeWSWJ2oqMSQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: HighPoint 1640 SATA RAID Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:55:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In my quest for a RAID1 setup, I also purchased a 1640 which, according to the HighPoint website, is compatible with 5.3, but I'm unable to get it work with my system. FreeBSD sees the drives as two individual disks instead of one large disk. This is after I created a RAID1 array in the 1640's BIOS. Are there instructions for getting this to work with FreeBSD anywhere? I'm using this with a SuperMicro P8SGA motheroard and an Intel P4 2.8 processor. Any ideas? - ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjedCWjZbUnRudGOEQJ4owCfQdLUTQu+p13FH1/MLM9JDUf/yKgAn0vY 2Vg8YcJfVNRGK1XiS6R/ir5b =e6zV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C4816A4CE; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DC043D55; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:04:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2G34F1q029309; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:04:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:04:15 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20050316030414.GA91721@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200503151243.19596.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503151243.19596.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: usb@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass0 -- yes, daX -- no? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:04:40 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 15), Mikhail Teterin said: > I'm trying to access the file system on a usb memory key. When I > insert it, however, kernel duly reports creation of umass0, but not > the da1 (da0 is my ZIP drive). > > According to usbdevs -d, I have: > > addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS > uhub0 > addr 2: Dell USB Memory Key, M-Systems > umass0 You might have a device that's not known in umass's table. It looks like it needs to know the protocol before it will create a da* device; try editing /sys/dev/usb/usbdevs and adding a DISKONKEY3 entry (usbdevs -dv should print the hex IDs you need), and copy one of the existing DISKONKEY array entries in umass.c. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:10:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ED416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:10:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7867F43D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlagarde@bigfoot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (12-219-244-184.client.mchsi.com[12.219.244.184]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20050316031029m92003at1ne>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:10:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:10:27 -0800 From: Jean Lagarde User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:10:41 -0000 I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of RAM. The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the 512MB stick in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at specific times, for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to make OpenOffice (always reboots at "Extracting for openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see any panic in the messages log, the system just silently reboots. I initially installed FreeBSD with only the 512MB stick in. The memory itself seems fine; memtest86 detects no errors. At boot time all the memory is detected: real memory = 1610547200 (1535 MB) avail memory = 1568432128 (1495 MB) Running "memtest all" only seems to find 512MB to use. It evidently makes no assumption about how much memory is there, starting by trying to malloc 4GB and reducing the amount gradually until it finally successfully mallocs 512 MB and eventually manages to lock 413 MB (failed due to "insufficient resources" above that). The tests on the 413 MB do pass. I have rebuilt the kernel with VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX=419430400 as suggested in the FAQ. No change. Would setting MAXMEM to 1572864 help? I am not sure since the correct amount is reported by FreeBSD at boot, and right now trying to make the kernel with that option seems to be another case that reboots the machine (i.e. the make process itself reboots the machine) so I have not tried it yet (guess I would have to remove the 1GB stick to make the new kernel and then put it back to try it out). Thank you for any help. ============ dmesg ============ FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 13 20:01:36 PST 2005 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KERNEL_JEAN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz (2205.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febfbff real memory = 1610547200 (1535 MB) avail memory = 1568432128 (1495 MB) mptable_probe: MP Config Table has bad signature: .\M^K\M-@ npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x1080-0x10ff,0x1000-0x107f,0x480-0x48f,0xcf8 -0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pc i0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ohci0: mem 0xe7000000-0xe7000fff irq 5 at device 2.2 o n pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xe7001000-0xe7001fff irq 12 at device 2.3 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6 ,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 sis0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xe7002000-0xe7002fff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 miibus0: on sis0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto sis0: Ethernet address: 00:50:2c:04:6c:0b pci0: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 14.0 (no driver attached) sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2205013308 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 39216MB [79677/16/63] at ata0-master UD MA100 acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA 66 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id A510016A4CF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:15:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:15:42 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jean Lagarde Message-ID: <20050316031542.GZ91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:15:42 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:10:27PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: > I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I > might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. > > FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) > > The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of RAM. > The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the 512MB stick > in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at specific times, > for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to make OpenOffice > (always reboots at "Extracting for openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see > any panic in the messages log, the system just silently reboots. Spontaneous reboots means that it's almost certain that your RAM is bad or you have some other hardware failure. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:35:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4E616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994D643D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:35:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2G3Yv0V026053; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:34:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:43:55 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Jean Lagarde References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> In-Reply-To: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> (from jlagarde@bigfoot.com on Tue Mar 15 22:10:27 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110944635l.25764l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:35:15 -0000 On 03/15/05 22:10:27, Jean Lagarde wrote: > I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I =20 > might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. >=20 > FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) >=20 > The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of =20 > RAM. The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the =20 > 512MB stick in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at =20 > specific times, for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to =20 > make OpenOffice (always reboots at "Extracting for =20 > openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see any panic in the messages log, the =20 > system just silently reboots. >=20 > I initially installed FreeBSD with only the 512MB stick in. >=20 > The memory itself seems fine; memtest86 detects no errors. >=20 > At boot time all the memory is detected: >=20 > real memory =3D 1610547200 (1535 MB) > avail memory =3D 1568432128 (1495 MB) >=20 > Running "memtest all" only seems to find 512MB to use. It evidently =20 > makes no assumption about how much memory is there, starting by =20 > trying to malloc 4GB and reducing the amount gradually until it =20 > finally successfully mallocs 512 MB and eventually manages to lock =20 > 413 MB (failed due to "insufficient resources" above that). The tests =20 > on the 413 MB do pass. >=20 > I have rebuilt the kernel with VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX=3D419430400 as =20 > suggested in the FAQ. No change. >=20 > Would setting MAXMEM to 1572864 help? I am not sure since the correct =20 > amount is reported by FreeBSD at boot, and right now trying to make =20 > the kernel with that option seems to be another case that reboots the =20 > machine (i.e. the make process itself reboots the machine) so I have =20 > not tried it yet (guess I would have to remove the 1GB stick to make =20 > the new kernel and then put it back to try it out). >=20 > Thank you for any help. > What happens with just the gig stcik? What happens when you switch the =20 slots the sticks are in? Are the sticks the sam brand? Are the =20 brands/brand supported? http://www.sis.com/support/support_memory_3.htm Are you overclocking? intersresting read on the sis memory controller http://www.lostcircuits.com/motherboard/asus_p4s333/ I also find it hard to believe you have a bad mptable. Maybe you could =20 check for a new bios? It is kind of funny if sis used the ms acpi =20 tools and not intels for an intel system. I say this because I have =20 never heard of problems from the intel acpi tools, and ms is the only =20 other set I know of. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > dmesg > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 13 20:01:36 PST 2005 > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KERNEL_JEAN > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz (2205.01-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf24 Stepping =3D 4 > =20 > Features=3D0x3febfbff MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM> > real memory =3D 1610547200 (1535 MB) > avail memory =3D 1568432128 (1495 MB) > mptable_probe: MP Config Table has bad signature: .\M^K\M-@ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C236016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:39:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F37F43D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:39:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2G3dBkc023704; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:39:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:48:09 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Tom Vilot References: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> (from tom@vilot.com on Tue Mar 15 20:49:00 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110944889l.25764l.1l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:39:19 -0000 On 03/15/05 20:49:00, Tom Vilot wrote: > I have the port flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 installed (using =20 > firefox-1.0.1_2,1). I find that it crashes firefox pretty =20 > consistently. >=20 > However, a quick grep of flash in the ports reveals these: >=20 >=20 > flash-0.9.5 > flashplugin-0.4.3 > flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 > flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12 > flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 > linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2 > linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1 > linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1 >=20 > Should I be using one of these? What are they all!? :c) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ How about http://www.freshports.org/www/flashplugin-firefox/ And put WITH_MOZILLA=3Dfirefox ine /etc/make.conf. You may have had =20 mozilla installed as a dependancy of the falsh plugin without that flag =20 set. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:50:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C5216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:50:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA2343D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2G3oZ0V011736; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:50:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:34 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: kalin mintchev References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> In-Reply-To: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> (from kalin@el.net on Tue Mar 15 18:02:22 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:50:46 -0000 On 03/15/05 18:02:22, kalin mintchev wrote: >=20 > ok.. to day for a first time ever i saw this in my logs: >=20 > /kernel: All mbuf clusters exhausted >=20 > so i gotta up the kern.ipc.nmbclusters.. >=20 > also what would be a decent nmbclusters to specify in the loader for =20 > a > gig > or ram and 2 gigs of swap? >=20 > how many mbufs per cluster? >=20 > also why is this client stuck in the netstat. how come Send-Q is so > much?: > Did you check top to see if you even use swap? I never use swap with =20 512MB on my desktop. Read man tuning, around byte 32372. Try netstat =20 -m. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 03:59:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC2A16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A643D5F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j2G49of3092086 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B47AD637A; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:01 +0000 From: markzero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316035901.GA32248@logik.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 LOGIK005 X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: standard math lib question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:59:04 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where on earth is double log(double) actually defined? I'm talking about the one in /usr/include/math.h. Mark --=20 PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQjevA6faOQ/e/53RAQpwHRAAmoqNo3D30qApMRVOhzgOoqZQ899GZt4U zTNGrw0rF+woJmKpmyuIHa1s5XPzlSnKgJR50j1vroG1l+ZPmnOQV8YM9z6uisoC i+PovuOeXeCGNyglgTWHISRpKXTZ26kKbVIbMOUcAELPFHrZO4WyWwBf2Y3trojv PxghOPNoWrrrcP4mHMjjRB9a9+5F/zCFCD/b6b9WHYRm+EhSSbOilEylVa5Zfm8B mYF4AioIjxBfupt1E+ON/XEhXgRtZAER5Jf+TLgpJgwi14dE6oyFhpymfgV3D3Rv P10ZORYb2TO2vQ18Q2zeo4fHIcmkyZFYIkxLM3fdzEALGAnle9Uo0fpsBpQL5Ok3 kvOj8/OO6FDWr3VMZueRIL5ZT+7PlxXRAPz5SZq3SRCU1KsyrYsA0xL58A2H9uxR 2KMA7cM6tQP8Z2ieFRZS7adGeqtKcNYa/QBl2WFog1FiyRLUaJDC1BEXlZSIaY2T EJZ5DnkjxVUjBQ7QiOPhiEt5Dkqe3pWiKnXHuBI/8P1T9LVA0t2CSJt8ZxPrg0kl BRzEv1ejMtpcvMUdKkrh9oXaXS9RuSNtxsTCGxs9LQSQ2w/D1LI1NdNQO+oplHpl hX5s8Z0Vcp/LxK6HnrTF94MrbSg1hP65GYch2IyCCi/9k+tfvyWiWJgRwfqom0Bn gNPWMgKYcw0= =sxEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 04:08:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AACD16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:08:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daffy.activeinvitesoftware.com (wbar2.sjo1-4-10-244-201.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net [4.10.244.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9F443D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:08:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (unknown [210.213.173.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (verified OK))220231106806 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:36:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4237B126.7070506@activeinvitesoftware.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:08:06 +0800 From: "Rene C. Mendoza" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42315CA0.9090704@activeinvitesoftware.com> <42317B2C.8060305@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> <42318583.7080908@activeinvitesoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <42318583.7080908@activeinvitesoftware.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050602000601030807040009" Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:08:23 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050602000601030807040009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rene C. Mendoza wrote: > Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > >> did you compile Apache 2.x with WebDAV support (i.e. mod_dav)? >> >> Rene C. Mendoza schrieb: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I'm trying to install subversion-1.1.3 on FreeBSd 4.10 from ports. >>> By the way, my ports tree is updated regularly. >>> When I install in the subversion port directory, installation just >>> seems to stop or sleep. >>> >>> Here is the relevant line where it sleeps: >>> >>> /usr/local/sbin/apxs -e -S LIBEXECDIR=/usr/local/libexec/apache2 -a >>> -n dav libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so >>> >>> I may have missed something. Can anybody help show me what I'm doing >>> wrong? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Rene >>> >>> >>> >> > yes i did. i use penv in our server. here are the environment > settings on www/apache2. > > # penv -c list > WITH_DAV_MODULES=yes > WITH_AUTH_MODULES=yes > WITH_SSL_MODULES=yes > WITH_MISC_MODULES=yes > WITH_BERKELEYDB=db42 > WITH_LDAP_MODULES=yes > > on devel/subversion, i have these penv settings: > > # penv -c list > WITH_MOD_DAV_SVN=yes > WITH_BOOK=yes > > did i miss anything? > > thanks, > rene > > Here's some more info on my problem. When I run the following command manually, it just doesn't seem to do anything at all. Has anyone here able been successful in compiling subversion with mod_dav_svn? 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b=QLzbxfqVCLDgbOb65IeDPT9vIWYYpA14yNpVbBjS2vlRnT5INKFHlNeZUQUKX7P+nx7Tjl1RDhWnvEUX96OKwNddVtKB7Ttme8/40FrzMdE9A9Pt8jfjeJJkiVeF6H/WCWaZdRkZn8uXwpTfBrGAvnYwqi5A5qr79JfVWqrzogA= Received: by 10.38.151.33 with SMTP id y33mr144586rnd; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.160.25]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k21sm1315699rnb.2005.03.15.20.18.28; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Rene C. Mendoza'" , Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:48:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C52A0D.482A2470"; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" In-Reply-To: <4237B126.7070506@activeinvitesoftware.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUp3fG64ZVLBSIBQQ+/KUJ6EZ5ZEAAAQmPg Message-ID: <4237b396.05418f9f.4b58.62ef@mx.gmail.com> Subject: RE: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:18:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C52A0D.482A2470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Rene C. Mendoza > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:38 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 > > > Here's some more info on my problem. When I run the following command > manually, it just doesn't seem to do anything at all. Has anyone here > able been successful in compiling subversion with mod_dav_svn? I tried > upgrading to FreeBSD 5.3 with updated ports and I still get the same > problem. > > /usr/local/sbin/apxs -e -S LIBEXECDIR=/usr/local/libexec/apache2 -a -n > dav libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so When you run apxs manually, then do you find it consuming any processor time? You can check from top. Regards, S. 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(8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G4Li0W058676; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:21:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <4237B438.9030108@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:12 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Henson References: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> <1110944889l.25764l.1l@BARTON> In-Reply-To: <1110944889l.25764l.1l@BARTON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:22:14 -0000 Jason Henson wrote: > How about http://www.freshports.org/www/flashplugin-firefox/ > > And put WITH_MOZILLA=firefox ine /etc/make.conf. You may have had > mozilla installed as a dependancy of the falsh plugin without that > flag set. > Nah, same problem :c( ------- Mar 15 21:20:01 bsdlaptop kernel: pid 5564 (firefox-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 04:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AED316A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daffy.activeinvitesoftware.com (wbar2.sjo1-4-10-244-201.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net [4.10.244.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCF543D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (unknown [210.213.173.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (verified OK))CACD91106806; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:59:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4237B676.6080709@activeinvitesoftware.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:30:46 +0800 From: "Rene C. Mendoza" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <4237b396.05418f9f.4b58.62ef@mx.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4237b396.05418f9f.4b58.62ef@mx.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050607010102010901040704" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:31:06 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050607010102010901040704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subhro wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Rene C. Mendoza >>Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:38 >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 >> >> >>Here's some more info on my problem. When I run the following command >>manually, it just doesn't seem to do anything at all. Has anyone here >>able been successful in compiling subversion with mod_dav_svn? I tried >>upgrading to FreeBSD 5.3 with updated ports and I still get the same >>problem. >> >>/usr/local/sbin/apxs -e -S LIBEXECDIR=/usr/local/libexec/apache2 -a -n >>dav libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so >> >> > > >When you run apxs manually, then do you find it consuming any processor >time? You can check from top. > >Regards, >S. > >Indian Institute of Information Technology >Subhro Sankha Kar >Block AQ-13/1, Sector V >Salt Lake City >PIN 700091 >India > > yup. here is the top command result: last pid: 88945; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 0.93 up 0+05:01:38 19:02:31 32 processes: 2 running, 30 sleeping CPU states: 98.1% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 16M Active, 237M Inact, 82M Wired, 48K Cache, 60M Buf, 158M Free Swap: 1006M Total, 1006M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 88849 root 132 0 4740K 4316K RUN 36:18 98.88% 98.88% perl5.8.6 543 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd 480 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd 387 root 96 0 8420K 5256K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% httpd 345 root 96 0 3120K 2548K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 580 root 20 0 2432K 1956K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 238 root 96 0 1408K 964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 364 root 8 0 1448K 1096K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron 481 rene 20 0 2432K 1940K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 88945 rene 96 0 2412K 1632K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 544 rene 20 0 2428K 1892K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 478 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 541 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd 579 rene 8 0 1700K 1360K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su 351 smmsp 20 0 3016K 2388K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail 425 root 5 0 1372K 988K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty 391 root 96 0 2492K 2068K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd I tried installing without mod_dav_svn and subversion installed cleanly. 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Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:35:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7D043D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:35:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so3434rnf for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:content-type:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=MOtEUfl2P35rXmVPrj5ZGnfE0EAtPyzZsz8Shfe/oY1WmrJdkDK2SgFhMctaKqL55mYuUheWVUsMLYAWeTXOL/i5haIYgXGVGhY/dGOIouZtWMcH/pUkuY1DvToSh81NYKDvzkoOpOXjZGA8UT1KRA3h2gDZgeIayuM+gUbAcq8= Received: by 10.38.15.17 with SMTP id 17mr161214rno; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.160.25]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 64sm923871rna.2005.03.15.20.35.16; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:35:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Rene C. Mendoza'" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:05:08 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C52A0F.A1280E00"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1 In-Reply-To: <4237B676.6080709@activeinvitesoftware.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUp4PnIM59IUfTWRKue1gk2ItPXlAAAFg4g Message-ID: <4237b786.35f295bd.7906.ffffe93d@mx.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:35:23 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C52A0F.A1280E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Rene C. Mendoza [mailto:rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:01 > To: Subhro > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 > > Subhro wrote: > > > > >>Here's some more info on my problem. When I run the following command > >>manually, it just doesn't seem to do anything at all. Has anyone here > >>able been successful in compiling subversion with mod_dav_svn? I tried > >>upgrading to FreeBSD 5.3 with updated ports and I still get the same > >>problem. > >> > >>/usr/local/sbin/apxs -e -S LIBEXECDIR=/usr/local/libexec/apache2 -a -n > >>dav libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so > >> > >> > > > > > >When you run apxs manually, then do you find it consuming any processor > >time? You can check from top. > > > yup. here is the top command result: > > last pid: 88945; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 0.93 up 0+05:01:38 > 19:02:31 > 32 processes: 2 running, 30 sleeping > CPU states: 98.1% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > idle > Mem: 16M Active, 237M Inact, 82M Wired, 48K Cache, 60M Buf, 158M Free > Swap: 1006M Total, 1006M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 88849 root 132 0 4740K 4316K RUN 36:18 98.88% 98.88% > perl5.8.6 > 543 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 480 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 387 root 96 0 8420K 5256K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% httpd > 345 root 96 0 3120K 2548K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sendmail > 580 root 20 0 2432K 1956K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh > 238 root 96 0 1408K 964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd > 364 root 8 0 1448K 1096K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron > 481 rene 20 0 2432K 1940K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh > 88945 rene 96 0 2412K 1632K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top > 544 rene 20 0 2428K 1892K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh > 478 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 541 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > 579 rene 8 0 1700K 1360K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su > 351 smmsp 20 0 3016K 2388K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail > 425 root 5 0 1372K 988K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty > 391 root 96 0 2492K 2068K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd > > I tried installing without mod_dav_svn and subversion installed > cleanly. Problem with apxs/mod_dav_svn? When was perl built on this system? And may I have a look at /etc/make.conf? Regards, S. 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Thread-Index: AcUp4Av1XQe1EL+aSEuJzzoiGc1ShQAAZ3MQ Message-ID: <4237b7ef.3ccf1cc7.1bf5.4c39@mx.gmail.com> cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: RE: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:37:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C52A0F.E0186BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tom Vilot > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:51 > To: Jason Henson > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: flash plugin? > > Jason Henson wrote: > > > How about http://www.freshports.org/www/flashplugin-firefox/ > > > > And put WITH_MOZILLA=firefox ine /etc/make.conf. You may have had > > mozilla installed as a dependancy of the falsh plugin without that > > flag set. > > > Nah, same problem :c( > ------- > > Mar 15 21:20:01 bsdlaptop kernel: pid 5564 (firefox-bin), uid 1001: > exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Any non standard build flags like f* or -O and likes? Regards, S. 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mail.el.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 04:54:44 -0000 Received: from 68.165.89.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net); by mail.el.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:54:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> In-Reply-To: <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:54:44 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Jason Henson" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:54:34 -0000 > Did you check top to see if you even use swap? yea. very small amount. Swap: 2032M Total, 624K Used, 2031M Free > I never use swap with > 512MB on my desktop. Read man tuning, around byte 32372. i did a few times. don't remember which byte was it thought... > Try netstat > -m. i did. here: this was when i send this message originally: # netstat -m 6138/6832/26624 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 6137 mbufs allocated to data 1 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers 6092/6656/6656 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 15020 Kbytes allocated to network (75% of mb_map in use) 11125 requests for memory denied 1 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines =================================== this is now: netstat -m 349/6832/26624 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 348 mbufs allocated to data 1 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers 346/6656/6656 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 15020 Kbytes allocated to network (75% of mb_map in use) 11125 requests for memory denied 1 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines huge difference. so i think about 260 lines of netstat -p tcp output like: tcp4 0 33580 server.http c68.112.166.214..3307 FIN_WAIT_1 has to do with all these 6000 clusters. but i'm not sure how. DOS may be?! they are all from the same client ip and all of them have much higher number for send then received Q's. what does the state FIN_WAIT_1 mean? waiting to finish? if so - why it didn't do that for hours and hours. my web server keeps connections alive for 10 sec. there isn't much else that uses tcp on that machine. the webserver was inaccessile for about 5-10 min. so my first thought was DOS... "11125 requests for memory denied" made it look like it was a DOS... maybe somebody can explain the relation if any. it'll be appreciated... thanks.... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:02:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C842816A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:02:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7676243D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:02:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13395CFF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82286-07; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962795C0F; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:02:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4237BDCE.5070303@mac.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:02:06 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markzero References: <20050316035901.GA32248@logik.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: <20050316035901.GA32248@logik.ath.cx> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: standard math lib question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:02:38 -0000 markzero wrote: > Where on earth is double log(double) actually defined? I'm talking > about the one in /usr/include/math.h. See /usr/src/lib/msun/src/w_log.c. Or are you asking which library defines that symbol? It'd be in libm.a: 6-sec# nm -g /usr/lib/libm.a | grep log i387_s_logb.o: 00000000 D __arch_logb U __generic_logb 00000074 T __i387_logb 0000006c T logb w_logf.o: U __ieee754_logf 00000000 T logf w_log10f.o: U __ieee754_log10f 00000000 T log10f w_log10.o: U __ieee754_log10 00000000 T log10 w_log.o: U __ieee754_log 00000000 T log U ilogbf U ilogb [ ... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:04:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32FE16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:04:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from addr9.addr.com (addr9.addr.com [209.249.147.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F4343D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markzero@logik.ath.cx) Received: from logik.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1])j2G5FWn0022684; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 62AFA637A; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:04:43 +0000 From: markzero To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20050316050443.GA76476@logik.ath.cx> References: <20050316035901.GA32248@logik.ath.cx> <4237BDCE.5070303@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4237BDCE.5070303@mac.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 LOGIK005 X-GPG-Key: http://darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt X-Fingerprint: B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-ADDRSpamFilter: Passed, probability (0%) X-ADDRSignature: 3CE5044E cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: standard math lib question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:04:47 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > markzero wrote: > >Where on earth is double log(double) actually defined? I'm talking > >about the one in /usr/include/math.h. >=20 > See /usr/src/lib/msun/src/w_log.c. Or are you asking which library defin= es=20 > that symbol? It'd be in libm.a: >=20 > 6-sec# nm -g /usr/lib/libm.a | grep log > i387_s_logb.o: > 00000000 D __arch_logb > U __generic_logb > 00000074 T __i387_logb > 0000006c T logb > w_logf.o: > U __ieee754_logf > 00000000 T logf > w_log10f.o: > U __ieee754_log10f > 00000000 T log10f > w_log10.o: > U __ieee754_log10 > 00000000 T log10 > w_log.o: > U __ieee754_log > 00000000 T log > U ilogbf > U ilogb > [ ... ] I was talking about the source, which you correctly pointed to. Thank you! Mark --=20 PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBQje+aafaOQ/e/53RAQqfThAAtVg6wkgJlVA4Y9uttrLRGWKQW80Ub6NJ NblBOimql1sqI1AE3xNB2SbRvTI+MHRiti0ssx7Y1o5srT70eLEPo+82vc35JMvd 9jakdcJtKCTaOqN8Cj4IklKwQ8TAuKVKtzjsV9+O8/FBiJbn3ZQb0tJq1jWSbgV8 OEZGiNSh4ZEPzMiRInuKMrgccC+TXpWe9d9wjErX0bQ6tppWNrUwOAH//dwP8tJE PTUAwxtMB8ivvpEMnKGXCpmvZWT5hQnXmJ7JLU2c5VquaPO7waPjzEWIr41wWxwk cfvojhmmLMU6DU5wdKNqzkHu6AUYXv5X2Nd/eiMV3BKifJAZNpeIWZbc6GuLwZIj WIHO0Bl5iQ4Wnsb7PEYRz7IrmswzlLObk6ILv74D6kHIp51nv3loqF13/BswXcmb mM1orza7f/cWoJUlmyPuPAvXgRS3zKXwgfIic/JcgTU4KQGRXjeUVN5Lk4k7zMP4 yHQ0U4+G52XeTt7+gsdRmDyVxZxEPOsqevj/drh/fd5wd9KLPfkaRTKaSxTht9E5 Ta60V6b6/jmHYNchW0aea5qlTifiUG49qCRG6QMbABkMs447wXwi14SZDO9/RxEq Pl3jXMYKei/toFPqkfkVPErKI0Bt37KX3itvWxkYrfQ11SjtakbhxscikAqwa1z4 yAIRnssQpcc= =CzCw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:08:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:08:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA443D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08F55CFF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82286-08; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C505C0F; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:07:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4237BF11.9080005@mac.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:07:29 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> <20050316004533.GC84161@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050316004533.GC84161@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:08:01 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:14:43PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: [ ... ] >>DNS for that address is broken, so sendmail on the other machine is >>unable to get a valid a record to make a connection, so you get >>"connection refused": > > tao is on my private 10.0.0.247 IP. I *have* added > ns1.thought.org to my /etc/mail/access file and did a > "# make maps"; I also reinitialized sendmail. > > Still get "Connection refused" /etc/hosts* andn > /etc/resolv.conf look good. What else?? You can try telnet'ing to port 25 on the problem host from your other machine by hand and see what happens. However, sendmail really wants valid DNS for mail servers, so changing /etc/hosts probably isn't going going to be enough. Consider using a mailertable entry with [10.0.0.247] to disable MX lookups, rather than a hostname... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:16:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E0316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9E43D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:16:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2G5GFb97433; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:16:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Advice on integrated video on friends system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:16:19 -0000 James, The ATI Rage Pro is a little different than a modern video chipset. It was designed before PnP monitors, so what they did is there is a DOS utility that you run under DOS and write the monitor settings (ie: the maximum refresh rates and such) into eeprom in the video chip. When the video drivers query the video chip for the modes the monitor supports, they get these values, not the real modes the monitor supports. The chip was probably setup at the factory to whatever the old IBM monitor could be driven to, and that monitor is now long gone, of course. Also one other thing - while the svga server supposedly has support for the ATI cards, I've found with the older ATI cards that you must select the ati server. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of James Earl > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:43 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Advice on integrated video on friends system > > > I've included HorizSync, and VertRefresh for the monitor's specs. Is > there more that's needed in this case? The monitor that I'm currently > testing with is a Samsung 193P. I also tested on a Samsung 171S, and > an old CRT. > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:35:51 -0600, Henry Miller > wrote: > > > > I'd start by getting the specs for the monitor and manually entering > > them into the xorg.conf file. This looks to me like the case of the > > monitor shutting itself down because the sync is out of the supported > > range. > > > > man xorg.conf > > man Xservers > > > > > > On 3/15/2005 at 14:27 James Earl wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >A good friend of mine asked me to setup FreeBSD and GNOME > on his home > > >computer for his family to use. It is an old IBM Aptiva. The usual > > >stuff works, but of course it has to have integrated video: ATI Rage > > >Pro Turbo chipset. > > > > > >I'm running the latest Xorg in the ports tree and started with a > > >configuration file using 'Xorg -configure'. No matter what > I've tried > > >(no accel, no dri, defaultdepth 8, 16, Modes 800x600, 640x480), all > > >the results have been the same, even when trying to run xorgcfg... > > >when I run startx, my monitor blanks, and either tells me it's an > > >unsupported video mode, or the screen just goes blank. Doing > > >ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restore my text mode, but I am able to > > >reboot the system using ctrl+alt+del, or I can even type > 'shutdown -p > > >now' (but nothing is displayed). > > > > > >Could anyone suggest any additional course of action, or is this > > >chipset clearly unsupported? It's really hard for me to give up on > > >this... it's not too often that I get to setup someone with FreeBSD > > >and GNOME (has only happened to me once before this). > > > > > >James > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:21:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B979316A4FD for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDFE43D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so1091831rns for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=Zd0h3e7twuHmHs4P/cz8Ir2WqOCuvzK5wQ470NBCIND69ojJn4s9A+f/5fe2BrBt0rlYryAuYPyjr4SbSKdRAOU7XzsCyLEPgstK88S58Tg3GoDqiy/j33ibLZcA4gM6HinnyvUHcg+wbhv8V/cBcWy4tEJA96X8urGad0Pv7CI= Received: by 10.38.206.58 with SMTP id d58mr29628rng; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([24.60.144.26]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 72sm60860rna.2005.03.15.21.21.07; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:21:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200503142343.08528.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> <200503151124.45414.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> <4237929B.8050709@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <4237929B.8050709@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503160021.57801.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: dovecot is broken in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:40 -0000 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:57, Jud wrote: > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > However, any attempt to clean it, remove gnutls (pkg_delete) and install > > it again fails with : > > > > ===> dovecot-0.99.14 Currently incompatible with security/gnutls. > > > > I do not have gnutls installed now (just removed it). Why should I get > > this message (even after make clean and make distclean) ? > > # make config > > will allow you to redo your config choices and select SSL rather than > GNUTLS, support for which is broken in Dovecot itself ATM, thus in the > port also. > > Jud That did the trick. Thanks ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:22:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A09916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5B543D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:22:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nembriz@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so505rnf for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:22:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lMP47PtoBznWKWmNk+YgiCx1y3HfSNXqP1bqkUR8M0Ca2XQ2P8HoIixCFIrcKOB/k4x5z5zgdHBnR5YJCoWSD56TTtASKgcx0lcjbyr6YFBpggC3ZM1Y6huTbq4EC8pyx3zUsW8LOfpuQv279XcMZyUOovGfri27b/L2Ji1VgZI= Received: by 10.38.75.78 with SMTP id x78mr200211rna; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.65.4 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:22:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6d46f148050315212238bccbe4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:22:14 -0600 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_de_Bari_Embriz_Garc=EDa_Rojas?= To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 3Com OfficeConnect Wireless 108Mbps 11g XJACK PC Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicol=E1s_de_Bari_Embriz_Garc=EDa_Rojas?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:22:15 -0000 Hi all, I was using NDIS for a (ath0) wifi 3Com OfficeConnect Wireless 108Mbps 11g XJACK PC Card under 5.3-stable I upgraded my src and hove now 5.4-PRERELEASE but now the card is not working well, when I ping to my gateway I get very high response times and I start to loose conection. the card acts like if there where a very poor signal, any idea of what could it be wrong? regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 05:59:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A657316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:59:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daffy.activeinvitesoftware.com (wbar2.sjo1-4-10-244-201.sjo1.dsl-verizon.net [4.10.244.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AC743D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:59:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (unknown [210.213.173.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (verified OK))B7FE21106806; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:27:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4237CB17.4030304@activeinvitesoftware.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:58:47 +0800 From: "Rene C. Mendoza" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <4237b786.35f295bd.7906.ffffe93d@mx.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4237b786.35f295bd.7906.ffffe93d@mx.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010701090304050900010505" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:59:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010701090304050900010505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subhro wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rene C. Mendoza [mailto:rene.mendoza@activeinvitesoftware.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:01 >>To: Subhro >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: subversion on FreeBSD 4.10 >> >>Subhro wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Here's some more info on my problem. When I run the following command >>>>manually, it just doesn't seem to do anything at all. Has anyone here >>>>able been successful in compiling subversion with mod_dav_svn? I tried >>>>upgrading to FreeBSD 5.3 with updated ports and I still get the same >>>>problem. >>>> >>>>/usr/local/sbin/apxs -e -S LIBEXECDIR=/usr/local/libexec/apache2 -a -n >>>>dav libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>When you run apxs manually, then do you find it consuming any processor >>>time? You can check from top. >>> >>> >>> >>yup. here is the top command result: >> >>last pid: 88945; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 0.93 up 0+05:01:38 >>19:02:31 >>32 processes: 2 running, 30 sleeping >>CPU states: 98.1% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% >>idle >>Mem: 16M Active, 237M Inact, 82M Wired, 48K Cache, 60M Buf, 158M Free >>Swap: 1006M Total, 1006M Free >> >> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND >>88849 root 132 0 4740K 4316K RUN 36:18 98.88% 98.88% >>perl5.8.6 >> 543 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 480 rene 96 0 5084K 2212K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 387 root 96 0 8420K 5256K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% httpd >> 345 root 96 0 3120K 2548K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% sendmail >> 580 root 20 0 2432K 1956K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh >> 238 root 96 0 1408K 964K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% syslogd >> 364 root 8 0 1448K 1096K nanslp 0:00 0.00% 0.00% cron >> 481 rene 20 0 2432K 1940K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh >>88945 rene 96 0 2412K 1632K RUN 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top >> 544 rene 20 0 2428K 1892K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh >> 478 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 541 root 4 0 5084K 2204K sbwait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> 579 rene 8 0 1700K 1360K wait 0:00 0.00% 0.00% su >> 351 smmsp 20 0 3016K 2388K pause 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sendmail >> 425 root 5 0 1372K 988K ttyin 0:00 0.00% 0.00% getty >> 391 root 96 0 2492K 2068K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% sshd >> >>I tried installing without mod_dav_svn and subversion installed >>cleanly. Problem with apxs/mod_dav_svn? >> >> > >When was perl built on this system? And may I have a look at /etc/make.conf? > > >Regards, >S. > >Indian Institute of Information Technology >Subhro Sankha Kar >Block AQ-13/1, Sector V >Salt Lake City >PIN 700091 >India > > Before I upgraded the box, I've upgraded all the ports including perl. Here's my make.conf. # The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for # generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in # certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value # of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to gcc. # The automatic setting of CFLAGS may be overridden using the # NO_CPU_CFLAGS variable below. # Currently the following CPU types are recognized: # Intel x86 architecture: # (AMD CPUs) k7 k6-2 k6 k5 # (Intel CPUs) p4 p3 p2 i686 i586/mmx i586 i486 i386 # Alpha/AXP architecture: ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4 # # If you experience any problems after setting this flag, please unset # it again before submitting a bug report or attempting to modify code. # It may be that certain types of software will become unstable after being # compiled with processor-specific (or higher - see below) optimization flags. # If in doubt, do not set CPUTYPE or CFLAGS to non-default values. # CPUTYPE=i686 #NO_CPU_CFLAGS= true # Don't add -march= to CFLAGS automatically #NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true # Don't add -march= to COPTFLAGS automatically # # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings above -O (-O2, ...) are not recommended # or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any # nonstandard optimization settings to "-O" before submitting bug reports # to the developers. # Note also that at this time the -O2 setting is known to produce BROKEN # CODE on the Alpha platform. # CFLAGS= -O -pipe # # CXXFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C++ code. # Note that CXXFLAGS is initially set to the value of CFLAGS. 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Disables OpenSSL optimizations #NOPROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries #NOSECURE= true # do not build crypto code in secure/ subdir #NOSHARE= true # do not go into the share subdir #NOUUCP= true # do not build uucp related programs # # To build sys/modules when building the world (our old way of doing things) #MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true # do not build modules when building kernel # # The list of modules to build instead of all of them. #MODULES_OVERRIDE= linux ipfw # # The following controls building optional IDEA code in libcrypto and # certain ports. Patents are involved - you must not use this unless # you either have a license or fall within patent 'fair use' # provisions. # # *** It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to determine if you can use this! *** # # IDEA is patented in the USA and many European countries - thought to # be OK to use for any non-commercial use. 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Keypresses are accepted by the # BIOS before booting from disk, making it possible to give custom boot # parameters even when this is set to 0. # #BOOTWAIT=0 #BOOTWAIT=30000 # # By default, the system will always use the keyboard/video card as system # console. However, the boot blocks may be dynamically configured to use a # serial port in addition to or instead of the keyboard/video console. # # By default we use COM1 as our serial console port *if* we're going to use # a serial port as our console at all. Alter as necessary. # # COM1: = 0x3F8, COM2: = 0x2F8, COM3: = 0x3E8, COM4: = 0x2E8 # #BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT= 0x3F8 # # The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value # for better interactive response. # #BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 115200 # # By default the 'pxeboot' loader retrieves the kernel via NFS. Defining # this and recompiling /usr/src/sys/boot will cause it to retrieve the kernel # via TFTP. This allows pxeboot to load a custom BOOTP diskless kernel yet # still mount the server's '/' (i.e. rather than load the server's kernel). # #LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT= YES # # By default, the ports collection attempts to use XFree86 4.X. If # you are running XFree86 3.3.X, uncomment this line. # #XFREE86_VERSION= 3 # # By default, this points to /usr/X11R6 for XFree86 releases 3.0 or earlier. # If you have a XFree86 from before 3.0 that has the X distribution in # /usr/X386, you want to uncomment this. # #X11BASE= /usr/X386 # # # If you have Motif on your system, uncomment this. # #HAVE_MOTIF= yes #MOTIF_STATIC= yes # # If the default location of the Motif library (specified below) is NOT # appropriate for you, uncomment this and change it to the correct value. # If your motif is in ${X11BASE}/lib, you don't need to touch this line. # #MOTIFLIB= -L${X11BASE}/lib -lXm # # # If you're resident in the USA, this will help various ports to determine # whether or not they should attempt to comply with the various U.S. # export regulations on certain types of software which do not apply to # anyone else in the world. # USA_RESIDENT= YES # # # Override "don't install a port that's already installed" behavior. # One might wish to do this for ports debugging or to unconditionally # reinstall a set of suspect/broken ports. # #FORCE_PKG_REGISTER= YES # # # If you're behind a firewall and need FTP or HTTP proxy services for # ports collection fetching to work, the following examples give the # necessary syntax. See the fetch(3) man page for details. # #FETCH_ENV= FTP_PROXY=ftp://10.0.0.1:21 #FETCH_ENV= HTTP_PROXY=http://10.0.0.1:80 # # # Port master sites. # # If you want your port fetches to go somewhere else than the default # (specified below) in case the distfile/patchfile was not found, # uncomment this and change it to a location nearest you. (Don't # remove the "/${DIST_SUBDIR}/" part.) # #MASTER_SITE_BACKUP?= \ # ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ # # If you want your port fetches to check the above site first (before # the MASTER_SITES specified in the port Makefiles), uncomment the # line below. You can also change the right side to point to wherever # you want. # #MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE?= ${MASTER_SITE_BACKUP} # # Some ports use a special variable to point to a collection of # mirrors of well-known software archives. If you have a mirror close # to you, uncomment any of the following lines and change it to that # address. (Don't remove the "/%SUBDIR%/" part.) # # Note: the right hand sides of the following lines are only for your # information. For a full list of default sites, take a look at # bsd.sites.mk. # #MASTER_SITE_AFTERSTEP= ftp://ftp.afterstep.org/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_COMP_SOURCES= ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/usenet/comp.sources.%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_FREEBSD_ORG= ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_GNOME= ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_GNU= ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_KDE= ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_LOCAL= ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_MOZILLA= ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_NETBSD= ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/packages/distfiles/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_PERL_CPAN= ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/plan/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_PORTS_JP= ftp://ports.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD-jp/ports-jp/LOCAL_PORTS/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_RINGSERVER= ftp://ftp.dnsbalance.ring.gr.jp/pub/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_RUBY= ftp://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_SOURCEFORGE= ftp://ftp2.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_SOURCEWARE= ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/sourceware/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_SUNSITE= ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_TCLTK= ftp://ftp.scriptics.com/pub/tcl/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_TEX_CTAN= ftp://ftp.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_THEMES= ftp://ftp.themes.org/pub/themes/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_WINDOWMAKER= ftp://ftp.windowmaker.org/pub/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_XCONTRIB= ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_XEMACS= ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/%SUBDIR%/ #MASTER_SITE_XFREE= ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/%SUBDIR%/source/ # # Also it is highly recommended that you configure MASTER_SORT_REGEX # to choose better mirror sites for you. List awk(1)-style regular # expressions separated by space so MASTER_SITES will be sorted in # that order. The following example is for Japanese users; change # "jp" part to your ccTLD ("de", "ru", "uk", etc.) or the domain names # of your nearest/upstream networks to meet your needs. # #MASTER_SORT_REGEX?= ://[^/]*\.jp[/.] # # Ports can place their working directories somewhere other than under # /usr/ports. #WRKDIRPREFIX= /var/tmp # # Kerberos IV # If you want KerberosIV (KTH eBones), define this: # #MAKE_KERBEROS4= yes # # # Kerberos 5 # If you want Kerberos 5 (KTH Heimdal), define this: # #MAKE_KERBEROS5= yes # # Kerberos 5 su (k5su) # If you want to use the k5su utility, define this to have it installed # set-user-ID. #ENABLE_SUID_K5SU= yes # # # Kerberos5 # If you want to install MIT Kerberos5 port somewhere other than /usr/local, # define this (this is also used to tell ssh1 that kerberos is needed): # #KRB5_HOME= /usr/local # # # CVSup update flags. Edit SUPFILE settings to reflect whichever distribution # file(s) you use on your site (see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/README for more # information on CVSup and these files). To use, do "make update" in /usr/src. # #SUP_UPDATE= yes # #SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup #SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 #SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org #SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile #PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile #DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile # # top(1) uses a hash table for the user names. The size of this hash # can be tuned to match the number of local users. The table size should # be a prime number approximately twice as large as the number of lines in # /etc/passwd. The default number is 20011. # #TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101 # # Documentation # # The list of languages and encodings to build and install # #DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1 ru_RU.KOI8-R # # # sendmail # # The following sets the default m4 configuration file to use at # install time. Use with caution as a make install will overwrite # any existing /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Note that SENDMAIL_CF is now # deprecated. The value should be a fully qualified path name. # #SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/myconfig.mc # # The following sets the default m4 configuration file for mail # submission to use at install time. Use with caution as a make # install will overwrite any existing /etc/mail/submit.cf. The # value should be a fully qualified path name. # #SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC=/etc/mail/mysubmit.mc # # If you need to build additional .cf files during a make buildworld, # include the full paths to the .mc files in SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC. # #SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC=/etc/mail/foo.mc /etc/mail/bar.mc # # The following overrides the default location for the m4 configuration # files used to build a .cf file from a .mc file. # #SENDMAIL_CF_DIR=/usr/local/share/sendmail/cf # # Setting the following variable modifies the flags passed to m4 when # building a .cf file from a .mc file. It can be used to enable # features disabled by default. # #SENDMAIL_M4_FLAGS= # # Setting the following variables modifies the build environment for # sendmail and its related utilities. For example, SASL support can be # added with settings such as: # # with SASLv1: # SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL # SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib # SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl # # with SASLv2: # SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 # SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib # SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 # # Note: If you are using Cyrus SASL with other applications which require # access to the sasldb file, you should add the following to your # sendmail.mc file: # # define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL',`GroupReadableSASLDBFile') # #SENDMAIL_CFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDADD= #SENDMAIL_DPADD= # # Setting SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID will install the sendmail binary as a # set-user-ID root binary instead of a set-group-ID smmsp binary and will # prevent the installation of /etc/mail/submit.cf. # This is a deprecated mode of operation. See etc/mail/README for more # information. # #SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID= # # The permissions to use on alias and map databases generated using # /etc/mail/Makefile. 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(envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:47:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20050316064715.GA85186@thought.org> References: <20050316000330.GA84087@thought.org> <20050316004533.GC84161@thought.org> <4237BF11.9080005@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4237BF11.9080005@mac.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:47:17 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:07:29AM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:14:43PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > [ ... ] > >>DNS for that address is broken, so sendmail on the other machine is > >>unable to get a valid a record to make a connection, so you get > >>"connection refused": > > > > tao is on my private 10.0.0.247 IP. I *have* added > > ns1.thought.org to my /etc/mail/access file and did a > > "# make maps"; I also reinitialized sendmail. > > > > Still get "Connection refused" /etc/hosts* andn > > /etc/resolv.conf look good. What else?? > > You can try telnet'ing to port 25 on the problem host from your other > machine by hand and see what happens. However, sendmail really wants valid > DNS for mail servers, so changing /etc/hosts probably isn't going going to > be enough. Consider using a mailertable entry with [10.0.0.247] to disable > MX lookups, rather than a hostname... > This is strange; I just allowed telnet in /etc/inetd.conf and reinitialized; from here on sage/ns1, this. telnet tao 25 Trying 10.0.0.247... telnet: connect to address 10.0.0.247: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Could I be missing something in rc.conf? gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 07:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF5116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758A243D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2G7kFEe026382 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:46:15 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20238 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:41:09 +0300 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:41:09 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=-0.138 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: sshd behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:40:56 -0000 Hi. I see strange to me behaviour of sshd. Please tell me is it bug or feature? I use following network configuration: ####### ########### ########## # LAN # -> # gateway # -> # router # ####### ########### ########## Gateway machine has sshd. Normally I work from LAN on the gateway good. But when connection with provider's router broken: ####### ########### ########## # LAN # -> # gateway # -X-> # router # ####### ########### ########## I can't login from LAN to gateway. Moreover, I can't login from gateway to itself, using loop interface. But other Network servicec working good. For example, I can do # telnet gateway 25 from LAN. Provider's router is default router in /etc/rc.conf. -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 07:58:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17B316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D5F43D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DBTNw-0003Jc-UF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:56:08 +0100 Received: from 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net ([207.224.118.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:56:08 +0100 Received: from sgnezdov by 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:56:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sergei Gnezdov Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <4557.24.98.86.57.1110773047.squirrel@24.98.86.57> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-224-118-87.spkn.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:58:00 -0000 On 2005-03-14, Jerry Bell wrote: > There are many tools that will send alerts to you, but very few that will > work "out of the box", without some level of tuning. There is a > collection of them here: > http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-4.phtml and here: > http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-19.phtml I see lots of log analizer tools. Which one is a good choice? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 08:17:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7E916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:17:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B28443D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:17:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB76CB8E1 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:17:13 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F390D1712C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:17:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4237EB83.4040202@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:17:07 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Purified-With: DSPAM, Clam AntiVirus Subject: Re: Mysql postfix SASL cyrus imap problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:17:14 -0000 As a short note - Try adding something like the following to your imapd.conf if you you want that Cyrus authenticates against your RDBMS as well ... #sasl_auxprop_plugin: sql #sasl_sql_engine: pgsql #sasl_sql_hostnames: postgresql.abyssworld.de #sasl_sql_user: haischt #sasl_sql_passwd: access4odin #sasl_sql_database: sasl2_auxprop #sasl_sql_select: SELECT %p FROM user_table WHERE username = '%u' and realm = '%r' ... and as a 2nd note - Make sure that the directory where the lmtp socket etc. should be created exists and is readable by the cyrus user account. Jason M aka Talon schrieb: > Sorry if this was a double post my subscribe was not working :( > Im not sure if the original mail went through. > > Hi All > I have a problem with my cyrus imap / mysql install > after 3 days on google looking around i am ripping my hair out > I have tried everything i have found in the faq's / howto's > but just cant seem to get it to work. > > Postfix works nicely and delivers to maildir etc > when i use the sasldb for cyrus i have no problems users can log in > auxprop has not been nice to me grrrr. > > If any one has the time could they have a look at my configuration and > give me a pointer on what I am doing wrong. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > Regards Jason M aka Talon (talonz[at]gmail.com) > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## version information > > OS FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 > Postfix Version postfix 2.1.5 > MySQL server version: 5.0.0-alpha > Cyrus Version cyrus-imapd 2.2.10 > SASL Version cyrus-sasl 2.1.20 > > All installed from ports > > ####################################################################################################################################### > > ## /var/log/messages :: Errors when imapd is started > > forsaken master[60842]: process started > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: recovering cyrus databases > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered > /var/imap/mailboxes.db (3 records, 584 bytes) in 0 seconds > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: skiplist: recovered > /var/imap/annotations.db (0 records, 144 bytes) in 0 seconds > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60843]: done recovering cyrus databases > forsaken master[60842]: unable to create lmtpunix listener socket: No > such file or directory > forsaken master[60842]: ready for work > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: checkpointing cyrus databases > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: > DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: error listing log files: > DB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: DBERROR: archive /var/imap/db: cyrusdb error > forsaken ctl_cyrusdb[60844]: done checkpointing cyrus databases > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## Login errors (after telnet localhost imap // o login test test) > ## this is the bit that has me stumped > > forsaken imap[60846]: sql_select option missing > forsaken imap[60846]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available > forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db > forsaken imap[60846]: no user in db > forsaken imap[60846]: badlogin: localhost [127.0.0.1] plaintext test > SASL(-13): user not found: checkpass failed > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## Start Configuration > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## postfix main.cf > queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix > command_directory = /usr/local/sbin > daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix > mail_owner = postfix > myhostname = forsaken.unix.org.au > mydomain = unix.org.au > inet_interfaces = all > mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost > unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 > relay_domains = $mydestination > > debug_peer_level = 2 > debugger_command = > PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin > xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5 > > sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases > mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq > setgid_group = maildrop > html_directory = no > manpage_directory = /usr/local/man > sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix > readme_directory = no > > # header/body checking > header_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/header_checks > body_checks = regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/body_checks > > # use cyrus or virtual > mailbox_transport = cyrus > > virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf > virtual_gid_maps = static:125 > virtual_mailbox_base = /usr/local/virtual > virtual_mailbox_domains = > mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf > virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000 > virtual_mailbox_maps = > mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf > virtual_minimum_uid = 125 > > # use cyrus or virtual > virtual_transport = virtual > virtual_uid_maps = static:125 > virtual_create_maildirsize = yes > virtual_mailbox_extended = yes > virtual_mailbox_limit_maps = > mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_limit_maps.cf > virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes > virtual_maildir_limit_message = Sorry, Account Is Suspended. (This > User Has Exeeded There Quota Limit). > virtual_overquota_bounce = yes > > # sasl settings for cyrus > broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > permit_mynetworks, > permit_sasl_authenticated, > reject_non_fqdn_hostname, > reject_non_fqdn_sender, > reject_non_fqdn_recipient, > reject_unauth_destination, > reject_unauth_pipelining, > reject_invalid_hostname, > reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org, > reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, > reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, > reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org > > smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes > smtpd_sasl_local_domain = > smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## cyrus.conf > > START { > recover cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -r" > } > > SERVICES { > # add or remove based on preferences > imap cmd="imapd" listen="imap" prefork=0 > pop3 cmd="pop3d" listen="pop3" prefork=0 > > lmtpunix cmd="lmtpd" listen="/var/imap/socket/lmtp" prefork=0 > } > > EVENTS { > checkpoint cmd="ctl_cyrusdb -c" period=30 > delprune cmd="cyr_expire -E 3" at=0400 > tlsprune cmd="tls_prune" at=0400 > } > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## imapd.conf > > configdirectory: /var/imap > partition-default: /var/spool/imap > > servername: forsaken.unix.org.au > allowanonymouslogin: no > allowplaintext: yes > > admins: cyrus root > sieveusehomedir: false > sievedir: /var/imap/sieve > > sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop > sasl_mech_list: plain cram-md5 digest-md5 > > lmtpsocket: /var/imap/socket/lmtp > > ####################################################################################################################################### > ## smtpd.conf > sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop > sasl_auxprop_plugin: sql > sasl_sql_engine: mysql > sasl_mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > sasl_sql_hostnames: localhost > sasl_sql_user: postfix > sasl_sql_passwd: postfix_password > sasl_sql_database: postfix > sasl_sql_verbose: yes > > sasl_sql_select: SELECT password FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%u' > > ####################################################################################################################################### > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 08:36:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:36:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A1343D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G8aEBM068800 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:36:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:34:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Davour's message of "Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:47:00 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <86u0ncng4o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:36:37 -0000 Andreas Davour writes: > Can someone tell me if it's ok to just use IPFW on my STABLE system, or > is there some other knobs in the kernelconfig I should toggle to turn > off pf support? By default pf is compiled as a loadable module, which you load if you want to run pf, leave alone otherwise. Removing all traces of pf would likely take a bit of effort. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 08:41:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0904C16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FF943D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031608411201600hd2s5e>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:50:19 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD User Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mozilla port issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:41:14 -0000 I've been working on upgrading 85 ports with portmanager -u for the last couple days. Had to restart it a few times, but little by little it seems to be whittling down the number of outstanding packages. Couple questions though... 1) a lot of the gnome stuff doesn't seem to be getting done... did I read something recently about portmanager not being able to upgrade gnome currently? Or some difficulty with gnome? 2) several of my remaining ports say that they're waiting on mozilla-1.7.5_1,2 as a dependency, but if I try to upgrade that, it stops, saying there are security issues with mozilla and I need to update my ports tree. I've updated several times however... What else do I need to do? 3) portmanager periodically says that it's missing nautilus-media-0.8.1_1... any idea why that would be? thnks, Ben PS: crap, I just remembered the UPDATING file... I see in there that I can't use portupgrade to update gnome... does that mean it won't work with portmanager either? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 08:49:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:49:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0E343D60 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:49:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G8ltBM073380 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:47:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:46:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Davour's message of "Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:39:16 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <86psy0nfl7.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or pf? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:49:09 -0000 Andreas Davour writes: > So, the base systems ships with two firewalls? Three, actually - ipfw, ipf and pf. There's a brief explanation why in the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-apps.html I prefer pf myself, but which one to use is really down to personal preference. I'd recommend following the Handbook's advice and do a bit of reading and experimenting. I hope to get around to updating my pf tutorial soonish (see http://www.bgnett.no/~peter/pf/en/ if you're interested - or http://www.bgnett.no/~peter/pf/no/ if you prefer the Norwegian version) -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 09:04:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E3416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A76A43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.nossin@student.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 955B313B7F6; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:04:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin502 (dyn414.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.117]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B7C13B6DE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:04:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:04:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUqBy04XhOC8Xi1SnG5u+dtIlHQXg== Message-Id: <20050316090436.59B7C13B6DE@kweetal.tue.nl> X-Spam-DCC: CollegeOfNewCaledonia: kweetal.tue.nl 1189; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.64 Subject: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:40 -0000 Hello, I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not even as root with #kill -9 I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling list, but I could not find a solution. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042264. html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042162. html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042222. html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042204. html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042488. html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042156. html Does anybody have an idea? Freek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 09:19:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF75716A4CE; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:19:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw.dgrp.sk (mailgw.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FD143D1F; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:19:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 0185E34A5A9; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:19:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.38]) by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC8F34A5A4; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with ESMTP id 2005031610184873-411 ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:48 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G9IUn0001858; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2G9IU5r001855; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:30 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200503160918.j2G9IU5r001855@lk.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: grog@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <20050315010407.GN12078@wantadilla.lemis.com> (grog@FreeBSD.org) References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> <20050315010407.GN12078@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 10:18:48, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 10:18:50, Serialize complete at 16.03.2005 10:18:50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mailgw X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:19:09 -0000 > --pP0ycGQONqsnqIMP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > On Monday, 14 March 2005 at 10:38:02 +0100, Ludo Koren wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am using 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 for backup on DDS-4 tapes 40GB in >> size. >> >> ... >> >> Why I cannot dump the filesystem on 2 tapes (it takes 3, it >> seems it works without compression) no matter if I use dump or >> cpio? What I am doing wrong? > You're using dump :-) > Dump is too stupid to understand compression or EOF marks, so > it errs on the side of caution. It's also IMO not a very good > backup medium unless you really want the incremental dump > facility. Even between different releases of FreeBSD there are > compatibility problems, and you can assume that there is no > compatibility at all between different operating systems. You > may find tar a better choice. Surprisingly http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html in 16.1.7 suggests dump, though as the reference is used (maybe) outdated E. Zwicky link... Anyway, cpio cannot handle the problem too, and the tar in 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 can handle multi-volume backup, but in the 5.3-STABLE don't according to the man page. I wonder what is then the best solution. Regards, lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 09:39:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169F316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yggdrasil.interstroom.nl (yggdrasil.interstroom.nl [80.85.129.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5BF43D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from o.greve@axis.nl) Received: from ip127-180.introweb.nl ([80.65.127.180] helo=[192.168.1.42]) by yggdrasil with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DBUzc-0004tc-00; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4237FEB6.7020201@axis.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:39:02 +0100 From: Olaf Greve User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart References: <4236B40C.100@axis.nl> <200503151326.46181.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200503151326.46181.kstewart@owt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Interstroom virusscan, please e-mail helpdesk@interstroom.nl for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found error wheninstallinglogrotate port - how to solve this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:39:26 -0000 Hi, Firstly, thanks for your reply! > No, you have the right version of gettext but you didn't address the > problem. I feared as much...:( >>Soooooo, the question then winds down to how to resolve this. Can >>anyone tell me how I can fix this problem? > > > Well, you have a mix bag set of references to gettext. Ports you haven't > rebuilt are still refering to the old library. The interface changed > between .so.5 and .so.6 and you have to rebuild everything that uses > libintl. Hmmm, to be honest, I'm not certain how I can best fix this. It is my live server which is up 24/7, and of which I'd rather not break anything just to get logrotate going.... I considered trying to install it as a package using sysinstall, but that complains that the fbsd 5.2.1 distribution cannot be found on the FTP servers anymore. Ideally, I'd like to (re)build the logrotate port such that it will work. I guess that does involve doing what you say: rebuilding everything that depends on the conflicting library. However, I do not know exactly how to do this. Can anyone perhaps tell me how I can find out which ports depend on this library, and how I can correctly update the lot such that it will all work, and such that I can install the logrotate port correctly? Cheers! Olafo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 09:54:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1766116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw.dgrp.sk (mailgw.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D4643D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id A353D34A5A9; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:54:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.38]) by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B82834A5A6; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:54:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with ESMTP id 2005031610540050-433 ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:54:00 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2G9rj3g003361; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:53:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2G9rjKR003358; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:53:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:53:45 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200503160953.j2G9rjKR003358@lk.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com In-reply-to: <42370004.5060506@dial.pipex.com> (message from Alex Zbyslaw on Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:32:20 +0000) References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> <42370004.5060506@dial.pipex.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 10:54:00, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 10:54:00, Serialize complete at 16.03.2005 10:54:00 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mailgw X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:05 -0000 >> # /sbin/dump -Lu0 -B 41943040 -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr >> >> >> > I would guess that your tape drive does hardware compression in > which case the amount of data which fits on a tape is variable. > In such a case you can't tell dump how big the tape is -- I > haven't used options like -B since 1600bpi reel-to-reel tapes, > except in my day you specified how many feet of tape you had > :-) > from man dump > -a ``auto-size''. Bypass all tape length considerations, > and enforce writing until an end-of-media indication is > returned. This fits best for most modern tape drives. Use of > this option is particularly recommended when appending to an > existing tape, or using a tape drive with hardware compression > (where you can never be sure about the compression ratio). It doesn't help either... The result is the same. > Don't know -L, must be a 5.x thing. Try: -L This option is to notify dump that it is dumping a live file sys- tem. To obtain a consistent dump image, dump takes a snapshot of the file system in the .snap directory in the root of the filesystem being dumped and then does a dump of the snapshot. The snapshot is removed when the dump is complete. If the .snap directory does not exist in the root of the filesystem being dumped, the dump will fail. This problem can be corrected by creating a .snap directory in the root of the filesystem to be dumped; its owner should be root, its group should be operator, and its mode should be 0770. > /sbin/dump -Lu0 -a -C 32 -f /dev/sa0 /usr > I use -b 64 as well. > Use cpio/tar at your peril as they may not do devices right and > may not understand filesystem flags. > --Alex lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 09:57:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5169416A4CE; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:57:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E22043D2D; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:57:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2G9vEb98408; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:57:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ludo Koren" , Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:57:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503160918.j2G9IU5r001855@lk.tempest.sk> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:57:11 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ludo Koren > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:19 AM > To: grog@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes > > >Anyway, cpio cannot handle the problem too, and the tar in >5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 can handle multi-volume backup, but in the 5.3-STABLE >don't according to the man page. I have never found multivolume tar archives to work unless I defined the size of each tape. Waiting for the tape device to return an EOT to the tar program always ended up with junk. If the tar in 5.3 doesen't have this option any longer why don't you compile a tar that does? Anyway, I think your problem is your tape device has it's dip switch set to disable compression. In that position it takes a SCSI command to turn compression on. If you flip the switch then the tape device starts with compression on, and it takes a scsi command to turn it off. This is hardware compression I am referring to, of course. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B3916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hp2.euro.net.mk (hp2.euro.net.mk [212.110.94.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B7A43D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@euro.net.mk) Received: from [212.110.94.68] by hp2.euronet.com.mk (NTMail 7.00.0018/SG1971.09.57a4aa33) with ESMTP id lntruaaa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:06:34 +0100 Message-ID: <42380512.7060206@euro.net.mk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:06:11 +0100 From: Perica Veljanovski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VSMLoop: euronet.com.mk Subject: sysinstall/fdisk drive geometry problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:06:22 -0000 Hello I finally got another hdd for my home box, decided to do a fresh fbsd install and I ended up with a disk problem :( : ide0: 40GB [FreeBSD wannabe (ufs2) 10GB, storage2 (fat32) 30GB] ide2: 40GB [WinXP (ntfs) 10GB, storage1 (fat32) 30GB] Now when I begin the installation, and go to the partitioning section, fdisk complains about drive geometry and rearranges the drive. Here are the settings: cyls/heads/sectors 19xxx/16/255 (BIOS) 7xxx/16/63 (dmesg "this is what fbsd complains to") 4xxx/255/63 (the new fdisk rearrangement) and FreeBSD's fdisk seems to get off on setting the head count to 255!!! I tried setting the bios value and fdisk complains again, but for some reason when I swap the heads and sectors values it does not. Same goes for the dmesg values (drive geometry from the dmesg output). Since I have no experience with changing drive geometry, nor do I understand the bloody thing, I have several issues: - Will I loose the data on 'storage2' if I change the drive geometry? - How should I set up the new drive geometry? What setting is faster/better? more cyls or more sectors (since fdisk is set to use 255 heads)? - If I backup 'storage2', change drive geometry as fbsd/fdisk suggests (or whatever), create a 10g slice and leave the other space unpartitioned, will I be able to partition and format the drive to fat32 from WinXP? That's about it... any examples would be great! thanks ahead! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:14:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12FA16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FAD43D5C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDF00C5TWG05RW0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:14:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CDE22CE75B; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:14:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:14:21 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503160214.22289.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: mozilla port issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:25 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 12:50 am, Ben Munat wrote: > I've been working on upgrading 85 ports with portmanager -u for the > last couple days. Had to restart it a few times, but little by little > it seems to be whittling down the number of outstanding packages. > > Couple questions though... > > 1) a lot of the gnome stuff doesn't seem to be getting done... did I > read something recently about portmanager not being able to upgrade > gnome currently? Or some difficulty with gnome? > > 2) several of my remaining ports say that they're waiting on > mozilla-1.7.5_1,2 as a dependency, but if I try to upgrade that, it > stops, saying there are security issues with mozilla and I need to > update my ports tree. I've updated several times however... What else > do I need to do? > > 3) portmanager periodically says that it's missing > nautilus-media-0.8.1_1... any idea why that would be? nautilus-media-0.8.1_1 is no longer in ports, see the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED. Eventually when the ports that used to depend on it are upgraded you will stop seeing that message, > > thnks, > > Ben > > PS: crap, I just remembered the UPDATING file... I see in there that > I can't use portupgrade to update gnome... does that mean it won't > work with portmanager either? Until the upgrade is done you should set DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="YES" in your make file. portmanager will be able to do the upgrade, but when it can't upgrade one port like mozilla it won't upgrade anything that depends on mozilla either. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:17:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C0216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:17:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BA643D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:17:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.166.224.240] (ip-85-160-67-110.eurotel.cz [85.160.67.110]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A4447E01C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:16:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423807FA.1010900@vdsoft.org> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:18:34 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050118) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SSH with Kerberos authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:17:03 -0000 Hi *, I get stucked for several hours with configuring SSH authentication via Kerberos. I tested the same configuration on Linux and there was no problem. I suspect pam_krb5.so. My requisities: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Kerberos comming with base system (heimdal implementation (Heimdal 0.6.1)) in /etc/krb5.conf [libdefaults] default_realm = ATREY [realms] ATREY = { kdc = 172.16.10.1 kpasswd_server = 172.16.10.1 } [logging] kdc = FILE:/var/log/kdc.log kdc = SYSLOG:DEBUG default = SYSLOG:DEBUG:USER [appdefaults] kinit = { forwardable= true } [kdc] database = { realm = ATREY } require-preauth = no v4-realm= ATREY key-file = /var/heimdal/heimdal.mkey in /etc/pam.d/sshd have: auth sufficient pam_krb5.so try_first_pass debug auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_krb5.so debug session optional pam_krb5.so debug password sufficient pam_krb5.so debug >From client view : .... debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /home/dvorakv/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /home/dvorakv/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Trying private key: /home/dvorakv/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive Password: pam_krb5: pam_sm_authenticate: Kerberos 5 error pam_krb5: pam_sm_authenticate: Kerberos 5 refuses you At server site in /var/log/auth.log there is notning to public. :-( In /var/log/kdc.log : What more - "debug" parameter standing after pam_krb5.so doesn`t increase verbosity of output. Here is my configuration method: 1.kstash Password: xxxx 2. edit /etc/krb5.conf 3. kadmin -l kadmin> init ATREY .. 4. add principals kadmin> add dvorakv .... 5. run kdc,kpasswd,kadmind /etc/rc.d/{kerberos,kadmind,kpasswd} start 6. test if i can get a ticket kinit dvorakv password: xxxx dvorakv@atrey:~$ kinit dvorakv dvorakv@ATREY's Password: kinit: NOTICE: ticket renewable lifetime is 1 week ^^^^ everything ok, but SSH and PAM! :-( And the last remark - this server runs in jail(8) - but there shouldn`t be a problem. Any ideas ? Is /etc/pam.d/sshd correct ? Is there anything what I am missing ? Is there anything special in FreeBSD besides Linux. Thank you, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:35:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29BF16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:35:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pophost.wldelft.nl (sunray.wldelft.nl [145.9.132.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C551E43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:35:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leroy.vanlogchem@wldelft.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3vc) id LAA12095 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from [145.9.150.200] (beasty [145.9.150.200]) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11920 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <42380C08.3040701@wldelft.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:52 +0100 From: Leroy van Logchem User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3-RELEASE-p5 reboots, ahd(4) debug messages on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:35:58 -0000 Hello, Our fileserver with a raid cabinet attached reboots about every two weeks. What could be causing this? OS Version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Server brand: Supermicro 6018-P8 Server purpose: Hosting files using Samba 3 and NFS with 400 clients. SCSI cabinet: 2U EonStore A08-G1410. A RAID5+1 being exported as single U160 device to the HBA. Boot messages after crash: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: Invalid Sequencer interrupt occurred. Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x23b Mode 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Card was paused Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x0] SELID[0x10] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: INTCTL[0x80]:(SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x0] SAVED_MODE[0x11] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: DFFSTAT[0x33]:(CURRFIFO_NONE|FIFO0FREE|FIFO1FREE) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SCSISIGI[0x0]:(P_DATAOUT) SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSIBUS[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) SCSISEQ0[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) SEQCTL0[0x0] SEQINTCTL[0x6]:(INTMASK1|INTMASK2) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SSTAT0[0x0] SSTAT1[0x0] SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) LQISTAT0[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x0] LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQOSTAT2[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SCB Count = 16 CMDS_PENDING = 0 LASTSCB 0xffff CURRSCB 0xf NEXTSCB 0xff00 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: qinstart = 39 qinfifonext = 39 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: QINFIFO: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: WAITING_TID_QUEUES: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Pending list: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Total 0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 15 14 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer Complete list: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: FIFO0 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8000, SCB 0xe Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8063, SCB 0xf Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQIN: 0x8 0x0 0x0 0xe 0x0 0x1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x0, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: CCSCBCTL[0x4]:(CCSCBDIR) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: REG0 == 0xd501, SINDEX = 0x10e, DINDEX = 0x102 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: SCBPTR == 0xe, SCB_NEXT == 0xff00, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff36 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: CDB 12 20 0 80 8 55 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: STACK: 0x236 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: 3.300MB/s transfers Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x29 0x2 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x29 0x2 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2 at ahd1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: 1429284MB (2927173632 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182208C) Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Pciconf -l: ----------- hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x254c8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x25418086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x25438086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24878086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0x42 hdr=0x01 isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24808086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x358015d9 chip=0x248b8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24838086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none2@pci1:28:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 pcib2@pci1:29:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 none3@pci1:30:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 pcib3@pci1:31:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 em0@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 em1@pci2:3:1: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 ahd0@pci3:2:0: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 ahd1@pci3:2:1: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 none4@pci4:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 Camcontrol: ----------- # camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on ahd0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (ses0,pass2) < > at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 () scbus1 on ahd1 bus 0: at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 (pass3,da2) < > at scbus1 target -1 lun -1 () scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) # camcontrol inquiry da0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass0: Serial Number 3JA7JCF100007440AJ5K pass0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled # camcontrol inquiry da1 pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass1: Serial Number 3JA7JARS00007439A214 pass1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled # camcontrol inquiry da2 pass3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass3: Serial Number 00000028E4A83F00 pass3: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Relevant df(1) output: ---------------------------- # df -hi Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/da2s1d 1.4T 1.2T 61G 95% 1956140 12969170 13% /part1 Kernel configuation: ------------------------- It's running GENERIC with these extras: options KDB options KDB_UNATTENDED options CAMDEBUG Thanks, Leroy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:50:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86A43D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:50:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2GAoub98999; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:50:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Leroy van Logchem" , Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:50:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <42380C08.3040701@wldelft.nl> Importance: Normal cc: atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr Subject: RE: 5.3-RELEASE-p5 reboots, ahd(4) debug messages on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:50:53 -0000 You have some Seagates running at 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), and a running at 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit) and they appear to be on the same cable? Interesting that Anthony is having a similar problem, same kind of thing although different scsi adapter and driver. You both ought to compare notes. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Leroy van > Logchem > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:36 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 5.3-RELEASE-p5 reboots, ahd(4) debug messages on reboot > > > Hello, > > Our fileserver with a raid cabinet attached reboots about every two > weeks. What could be causing this? > > OS Version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 > Server brand: Supermicro 6018-P8 > Server purpose: Hosting files using Samba 3 and NFS with 400 clients. > SCSI cabinet: 2U EonStore A08-G1410. A RAID5+1 being exported as single > U160 device to the HBA. > > Boot messages after crash: > > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI > devices to settle > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: Invalid Sequencer > interrupt occurred. > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card > State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: Dumping Card State at > program address 0x23b Mode 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Card was paused > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x0] > SELID[0x10] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: INTCTL[0x80]:(SWTMINTMASK) > SEQINTSTAT[0x0] SAVED_MODE[0x11] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > DFFSTAT[0x33]:(CURRFIFO_NONE|FIFO0FREE|FIFO1FREE) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SCSISIGI[0x0]:(P_DATAOUT) > SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSIBUS[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) SCSISEQ0[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) SEQCTL0[0x0] > SEQINTCTL[0x6]:(INTMASK1|INTMASK2) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] > SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] > QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] > MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SSTAT0[0x0] SSTAT1[0x0] > SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) LQISTAT0[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x0] > LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQOSTAT2[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SCB Count = 16 > CMDS_PENDING = > 0 LASTSCB 0xffff CURRSCB 0xf NEXTSCB 0xff00 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: qinstart = 39 > qinfifonext = 39 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: QINFIFO: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: WAITING_TID_QUEUES: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Pending list: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Total 0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Kernel Free SCB > list: 15 14 9 > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer Complete > DMA-inprog > list: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer Complete list: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer DMA-Up and > Complete > list: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Sequencer On QFreeze and > Complete list: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: FIFO0 Free, LONGJMP == > 0x8000, SCB 0xe > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|E > NCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] > DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SOFFCNT[0x0] > MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 > CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == > 0x8063, SCB 0xf > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|E > NCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] > DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: SOFFCNT[0x0] > MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 > CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: LQIN: 0x8 0x0 0x0 > 0xe 0x0 0x1 > 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: LQISTATE = > 0x0, LQOSTATE > = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 > MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 > SAVED_LUN = 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: > SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: CCSCBCTL[0x4]:(CCSCBDIR) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: REG0 == > 0xd501, SINDEX = > 0x10e, DINDEX = 0x102 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ahd0: SCBPTR == 0xe, > SCB_NEXT > == 0xff00, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff36 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: CDB 12 20 0 80 8 55 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: STACK: 0x236 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 > 0x0 0x0 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card > State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0 at ahd0 bus 0 > target 6 lun 0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: Fixed > Processor SCSI-2 device > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: 3.300MB/s transfers > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Copied 18 bytes of > sense data > offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > 0x29 0x2 0x2 > 0x0 0x0 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: Copied 18 bytes of > sense data > offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 > 0x29 0x2 0x2 > 0x0 0x0 0x0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2 at ahd1 bus 0 > target 2 lun 0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: > Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: 160.000MB/s transfers > (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da2: 1429284MB > (2927173632 512 > byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182208C) > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0 at ahd0 bus 0 > target 0 lun 0 > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0: ST336607LC 0007> > Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > Mar 10 10:09:21 filer kernel: da0: 320.000MB/s transfers > (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > > Pciconf -l: > ----------- > hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x254c8086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x25418086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x25438086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 > uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24828086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24848086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24878086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 > rev=0x42 hdr=0x01 > isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24808086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x358015d9 chip=0x248b8086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24838086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > none2@pci1:28:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 > rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 > pcib2@pci1:29:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 > rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 > none3@pci1:30:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 > rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 > pcib3@pci1:31:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 > rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 > em0@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > em1@pci2:3:1: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > ahd0@pci3:2:0: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > ahd1@pci3:2:1: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > none4@pci4:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00081002 chip=0x47521002 > rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 > > Camcontrol: > ----------- > # camcontrol devlist -v > > scbus0 on ahd0 bus 0: > > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) > at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 > (ses0,pass2) > < > at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 () > scbus1 on ahd1 bus 0: > at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 (pass3,da2) > < > at scbus1 target -1 lun -1 () > scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: > < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) > > # camcontrol inquiry da0 > pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > pass0: Serial Number 3JA7JCF100007440AJ5K > pass0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > # camcontrol inquiry da1 > pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > pass1: Serial Number 3JA7JARS00007439A214 > pass1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > # camcontrol inquiry da2 > pass3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > pass3: Serial Number 00000028E4A83F00 > pass3: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged > Queueing Enabled > > Relevant df(1) output: > ---------------------------- > # df -hi > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree > %iused Mounted on > /dev/da2s1d 1.4T 1.2T 61G 95% 1956140 12969170 > 13% /part1 > > Kernel configuation: > ------------------------- > It's running GENERIC with these extras: > options KDB > options KDB_UNATTENDED > options CAMDEBUG > > Thanks, > Leroy > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:52:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2586016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pophost.wldelft.nl (sunray.wldelft.nl [145.9.132.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6FE43D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:52:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leroy.vanlogchem@wldelft.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3vc) id LAA23895 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from [145.9.150.200] (beasty [145.9.150.200]) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23646 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <42381001.5050400@wldelft.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:49 +0100 From: Leroy van Logchem User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3-RELEASE-p5 reboots, ahd(4) debug messages on reboot [fixed format] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:52:55 -0000 ---- Sorry for the previous linewrapped question ---- Hello, Our fileserver with a raid cabinet attached reboots about every two weeks. What could be causing this? OS Version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Server brand: Supermicro 6018-P8 Server purpose: Hosting files using Samba 3 and NFS with 400 clients. SCSI cabinet: 2U EonStore A08-G1410. A RAID5+1 being exported as single U160 device to the HBA. Boot messages after crash: -------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #1: Wed Feb 2 11:48:23 CET 2005 root@testfiler.wldelft.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC MPTable: < Kings Canyon> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.70-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073217536 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1043804160 (995 MB) ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 24 ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 48 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 em0: port 0x3000-0x303f mem 0xfc200000-0xfc21ffff irq 54 at device 3.0 on pci2 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2a:53:be em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A em1: port 0x3040-0x307f mem 0xfc220000-0xfc23ffff irq 55 at device 3.1 on pci2 em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2a:53:bf em1: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pci1: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 31.0 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 ahd0: port 0x4000-0x40ff,0x4400-0x44ff mem 0xfc300000-0xfc301fff irq 28 at device 2.0 on pci3 ahd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, 512 SCBs ahd1: port 0x4800-0x48ff,0x4c00-0x4cff mem 0xfc302000-0xfc303fff irq 29 at device 2.1 on pci3 ahd1: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, 512 SCBs pci0: at device 29.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 29.2 (no driver attached) pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pci4: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2060-0x206f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) cpu0 on motherboard orm0: at iomem 0xe0000-0xe3fff,0xc8000-0xc8fff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2799696480 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ahd0: Invalid Sequencer interrupt occurred. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x23b Mode 0x0 Card was paused INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x0] SELID[0x10] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] INTCTL[0x80]:(SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x0] SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x33]:(CURRFIFO_NONE|FIFO0FREE|FIFO1FREE) SCSISIGI[0x0]:(P_DATAOUT) SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSIBUS[0x0] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) SCSISEQ0[0x0] SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) SEQCTL0[0x0] SEQINTCTL[0x6]:(INTMASK1|INTMASK2) SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x0] SSTAT1[0x0] SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x0] LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x0] SCB Count = 16 CMDS_PENDING = 0 LASTSCB 0xffff CURRSCB 0xf NEXTSCB 0xff00 qinstart = 39 qinfifonext = 39 QINFIFO: WAITING_TID_QUEUES: Pending list: Total 0 Kernel Free SCB list: 15 14 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 0 Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: Sequencer Complete list: Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: ahd0: FIFO0 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8000, SCB 0xe SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8063, SCB 0xf SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) LQIN: 0x8 0x0 0x0 0xe 0x0 0x1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x0, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) CCSCBCTL[0x4]:(CCSCBDIR) ahd0: REG0 == 0xd501, SINDEX = 0x10e, DINDEX = 0x102ses0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: 3.300MB/s transfers ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x29 0x2 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 Copied 18 bytes of sense data offset 12: 0x70 0x0 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0xa 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x29 0x2 0x2 0x0 0x0 0x0 da2 at ahd1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 1429284MB (2927173632 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 182208C) da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da1 at ahd0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a Pciconf -l: ----------- hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x254c8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x25418086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:2:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x25438086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01 uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24878086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0x42 hdr=0x01 isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24808086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x358015d9 chip=0x248b8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x24838086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none2@pci1:28:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 pcib2@pci1:29:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 none3@pci1:30:0: class=0x080020 card=0x358015d9 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 pcib3@pci1:31:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000050 chip=0x14608086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 em0@pci2:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 em1@pci2:3:1: class=0x020000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x10108086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 ahd0@pci3:2:0: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 ahd1@pci3:2:1: class=0x010000 card=0x005e9005 chip=0x801d9005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 none4@pci4:1:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 Camcontrol: ----------- # camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on ahd0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (ses0,pass2) < > at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 () scbus1 on ahd1 bus 0: at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 (pass3,da2) < > at scbus1 target -1 lun -1 () scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) # camcontrol inquiry da0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass0: Serial Number 3JA7JCF100007440AJ5K pass0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled # camcontrol inquiry da1 pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass1: Serial Number 3JA7JARS00007439A214 pass1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled # camcontrol inquiry da2 pass3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device pass3: Serial Number 00000028E4A83F00 pass3: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled df -hi output: -------------- Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/da2s1d 1.4T 1.2T 60G 95% 1956236 12969074 13% /part1 Kernel configuation: -------------------- GENERIC with these extras: options KDB options KDB_UNATTENDED options CAMDEBUG Thanks, Leroy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 10:58:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1874116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:58:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4146843D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:58:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j2GAwgkS002253 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:42 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 165 Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (galois1.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.116])j2GAwb2s080793 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j2GAwbW8027747 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:37 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois1.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j2GAwbGh027746 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:37 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316105837.GA27361@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:42 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 42381162.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr Subject: FB 5.3 with wireless connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:58:44 -0000 Hi all With a FB 5.3-P5 how can I configure a wifi card with 128 bits key wep ? My wifi card is wi0: at port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 5 function 0 config 1 on pccard1 When I use root@io# ifconfig wi0 wepkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up ifconfig: string too long root@io# ifconfig wi0 weptxkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Wed Mar 16 11:55:05 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 11:25:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF9E16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:25:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1866A43D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:25:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so57875rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:25:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OQDi7wt9SxsJhhBp1vlKhmla7PpH/CG+PsfvhSrFxaGKVHUr0DGiC0ZzqiyCV0tMFx6osagpVjqqFnkL7o+4xU+BRKh9oMLpeYAM5YMmfknwcbp4+CJO0SZeb5WkSavRQ9mg2HoRacpnXCLMEoo4HR+rt8Bx6oL4iA8ryvMusL4= Received: by 10.38.12.26 with SMTP id 26mr397305rnl; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:25:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:25:23 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: shih@math.jussieu.fr In-Reply-To: <20050316105837.GA27361@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316105837.GA27361@math.jussieu.fr> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: FB 5.3 with wireless connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:25:24 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:58:37 +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all Hi there, > > With a FB 5.3-P5 how can I configure a wifi card with 128 bits key wep ? > > My wifi card is > > wi0: at port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 5 function 0 config 1 on pccard1 > > When I use > > root@io# ifconfig wi0 wepkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up > ifconfig: string too long > root@io# ifconfig wi0 weptxkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > You should inform your system that you're using an exadecimal key! Do so by writing 0x before your wep key. > Regards. > > -- > Albert SHIH > Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) > U.F.R. de Mathematiques. > Heure local/Local time: > Wed Mar 16 11:55:05 CET 2005 Hope this helps, best regards -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 11:35:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0885516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA04143D53 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 24669 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 11:35:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.67.56]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2005 11:35:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:35:26 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: shih@math.jussieu.fr Message-ID: <20050316123526.259df11e@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050316105837.GA27361@math.jussieu.fr> References: <20050316105837.GA27361@math.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FB 5.3 with wireless connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:35:56 -0000 Albert Shih wrote: > With a FB 5.3-P5 how can I configure a wifi card with 128 bits key wep ? > > My wifi card is > > wi0: at port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 5 function 0 config 1 on pccard1 > > When I use > > root@io# ifconfig wi0 wepkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up > ifconfig: string too long > root@io# ifconfig wi0 weptxkey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx up > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument The recommended way is to specify the wepkey in hexadecimal digits. ifconfig wi0 wepkey 0x1deadc0dedeadc0dedeadc0de1 man ifconfig: > wepkey key|index:key > For IEEE 802.11 wireless interfaces, set the selected WEP key. > If an index is not given, key 1 is set. A WEP key will be either > 5 or 13 characters (40 or 104 bits) depending of the local net- > work and the capabilities of the adaptor. It may be specified > either as a plain string or as a string of hexadecimal digits > proceeded by `0x'. For maximum portability, hex keys are recom- > mended; the mapping of text keys to WEP encryption is usually > driver-specific. In particular, the Windows drivers do this map- > ping differently to FreeBSD. A key may be cleared by setting it > to `-'. If WEP is supported then there are at least four keys. > Some adaptors support more than four keys. If that is the case, > then the first four keys (1-4) will be the standard temporary > keys and any others will be adaptor specific keys such as perma- > nent keys stored in NVRAM. Regards Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 11:52:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A1243D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:56 +0000 Message-ID: <42381DF3.5060906@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:19 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludo Koren References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> <42370004.5060506@dial.pipex.com> <200503160953.j2G9rjKR003358@lk.tempest.sk> In-Reply-To: <200503160953.j2G9rjKR003358@lk.tempest.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 11:52:56.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1775360:01C52A1E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:22 -0000 Ludo Koren wrote: >It doesn't help either... The result is the same. > > Just to check I'm understanding your problem correctly -- you're expecting to write much more data to the tape than is actually being written. If that's correct, then there's a couple things I can think of: 1) Your tape drive isn't doing hardware compression. Check the manual and see if there are any dip switches you need to set. (Make a note of how they're set before you change anything, so you can go back to what you had originally!). When you say the result is the same, if it used exactly the same number of tapes (down to the decimal point) then that definitely suggests that your tape drive is not compressing. 2) The data you're writing to the tape is already mostly compressed, so you won't fit as much as you might if it were uncompressed data. Also, the 40Gb per tape that you quote is, I think, the MAXIMUM amount of data the tape will take. It's only 20Gb native. 40Gb is how much will fit at optimum compression, which you never get. It's unlikely to be a FreeBSD problem because I regularly fit 6-7Gb on a DDS-2, which has a native size of 4Gb. I use dump options like the ones in my last message. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 11:55:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE2416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:55:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ACB43D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:55:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7135E1A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:52:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id F09ED1A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:52:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D126230; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:55:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GBt9Bh062945; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:55:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:55:07 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:55:15 -0000 Perhaps this resonates with someone, I sure hope so. We bought and deployed a new server recently. Owing to various combinations of nics/raid controllers lack of support, instead of installing 5.3 we installed 4.11. The motherboard is a tyan tiger i7320s5350, dual Xeon 3.0GHz w/1MB cache and an moderately impressive 4GB of RAM. Hyperthreading *is* enabled, here's a sysctl hw snapshot: gonzo# sysctl -a |grep hw hw.machine: i386 hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz hw.ncpu: 4 #other stuff that may be meaningful to someone: hw.physmem: 3618050048 hw.usermem: 3261022208 hw.pagesize: 4096 hw.floatingpoint: 1 hw.machine_arch: i386 hw.aac.iosize_max: 65536 hw.an.an_dump: off #and so on..... Hard to believe, but this beast is swapping. Here's a typical top snapshot: load averages: 0.75, 0.36, 0.23 up 14+12:39:04 12:40:02 128 processes: 1 running, 125 sleeping, 2 zombie CPU states: 7.5% user, 0.0% nice, 1.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 91.2% idle Mem: 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free The box is replacing a machine with dual AMD athlon MP CPU's and 1GB of RAM. The old box never swapped once, though then - as now - free memory dipped down into numbers we weren't comfortable with occasionally. The old box *was* quite heavily loaded at times so this wasn't so surprising. The new "superbox" however doesn't even have some stuff running on it that the old one had! So under no circumstances could the workload on the new box be described as heavy. Can anyone suggest *anything* that might cause this uttely illogical situation to exist? We're frankly baffled. Regards & TIA, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 12:54:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:05:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB38216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B38043D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so66729rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:05:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HcfEuhDubKveh41r8FuxM13oTs6UQPD/prIxVYuB3k6r5FoRB8QZXwWJRmxY0zhR/H0IGEnOj+Q2JEdfGrJxgS5CuicjTjA5gU+KN1BGD0Q8dxfZhfVT/WWoVbWJBdU0QL2V8+bT5l+qIHoKozhzr/Dx+UfoccinoMIUvMq6TxI= Received: by 10.38.9.58 with SMTP id 58mr418282rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:05:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:05:25 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:05:27 -0000 What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace availeble ? Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:09:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAB616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EA643D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.166.224.240] (ip-85-160-67-110.eurotel.cz [85.160.67.110]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D87D47E01C; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:09:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42382268.1040206@vdsoft.org> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:11:20 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050118) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:09:47 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it >tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace >availeble ? > >Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? > > > I suppose there is no disk space available on some partition. When this message apears ? Or, you can check it out bu df -h command. Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:13:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7BC16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:13:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115F643D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:13:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GCClIn010695; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:12:48 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GCDAGD007861; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GCD9NH007860; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:09 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:13:14 -0000 On 2005-03-16 13:05, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it > tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace > availeble ? > > Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? i-nodes are the areas where the file system saves information such as the owner, the size and pointers to the data area of a normal or special file or a directory. 2 GB is a lot of space for a virgin FreeBSD installation. The base system takes up to 170 MB on a clean disk here. - Have you tweaked the newfs options that sysinstall used? - Have you installed any extra packages? How many and which? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:22:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE7716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:22:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D25343D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so71019rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:22:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jWC9eXR4UNMj9+qpy/wZOUK/t3p59qCNxkdvLA3dyt2Wc+0bp8xcGyApkwFq3waHrDgY+a4S6R7GmvJc0lEwwshRhLFle0HTV9iCmgbRrDw5GCBNaHz3sfD1Jw5T/u6RlVc4F/HA/iyOpZvNMleu0h3+KK6kpjET2k1MKnwRe3k= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr425878rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:22:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:22:43 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:22:44 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:09 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-16 13:05, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it > > tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace > > availeble ? > > > > Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? > > i-nodes are the areas where the file system saves information such as > the owner, the size and pointers to the data area of a normal or special > file or a directory. > > 2 GB is a lot of space for a virgin FreeBSD installation. The base > system takes up to 170 MB on a clean disk here. > > - Have you tweaked the newfs options that sysinstall used? > - Have you installed any extra packages? How many and which? > No i just installed 5.3 i386 base and ports and there is plenty of freespace on all default partitions availeble but when i do mkdir it tells me no inodes availeble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:27:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C48D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:27:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875E43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:27:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GCQxPC029520; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:00 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GCRMfY007967; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GCRMhx007966; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:27:26 -0000 On 2005-03-16 13:22, Gert Cuykens wrote: >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:09 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: >> On 2005-03-16 13:05, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> > What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it >> > tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace >> > availeble ? >> > >> > Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? >> >> i-nodes are the areas where the file system saves information such as >> the owner, the size and pointers to the data area of a normal or special >> file or a directory. >> >> 2 GB is a lot of space for a virgin FreeBSD installation. The base >> system takes up to 170 MB on a clean disk here. >> >> - Have you tweaked the newfs options that sysinstall used? >> - Have you installed any extra packages? How many and which? > > No i just installed 5.3 i386 base and ports and there is plenty of > freespace on all default partitions availeble but when i do mkdir it > tells me no inodes availeble. Show us the output of: # df -ik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:29:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3547B16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:29:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB1643D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:29:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 17187 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 12:29:52 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2005 12:29:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5099651; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:29:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:29:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:29:53 -0000 "Colin J. Raven" writes: > Hard to believe, but this beast is swapping. Here's a typical top > snapshot: > > load averages: 0.75, 0.36, 0.23 up 14+12:39:04 12:40:02 > 128 processes: 1 running, 125 sleeping, 2 zombie > CPU states: > 7.5% user, 0.0% nice, 1.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 91.2% idle > Mem: > 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free > Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free Not a problem. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:37:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06D316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:37:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570EA43D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:37:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 803AF1A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:34:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id ED84A1A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:34:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBC861C2; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:37:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GCb1AO063358; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:37:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:36:56 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:37:14 -0000 On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: > "Colin J. Raven" writes: > >> Hard to believe, but this beast is swapping. Here's a typical top >> snapshot: >> >> load averages: 0.75, 0.36, 0.23 up 14+12:39:04 12:40:02 >> 128 processes: 1 running, 125 sleeping, 2 zombie >> CPU states: >> 7.5% user, 0.0% nice, 1.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 91.2% idle >> Mem: >> 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free >> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free > > Not a problem. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another thread on the list. Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. The issue is this: Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. No way in creation this box should be swapping. Thanks for your response Lowell. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 13:36:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:49:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9608516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:49:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70F043D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:49:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so96554rng for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:49:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=j11sBZjAD934zvmzvzICOZkzwtiFYAx4u633eytTTor7DNGP6unE6pggFigxz61hiry7AbmBHslFnAZ8J3oKAeElvb+VE9RV2hyDL/18hSbN4xVBJYEscbbuYphSxbj1yoh0GNKFCEHvu+nHgMpRDUDHwLepIZfyiq5no5dbTtw= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr441734rnj; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:49:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:49:36 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:49:37 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:21 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-16 13:22, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:13:09 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > > wrote: > >> On 2005-03-16 13:05, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >> > What is a inode ? I installed freebsd 5.3 on a 2gb harddisk and it > >> > tells me there are not enough inodes ? Aldo there is diskspace > >> > availeble ? > >> > > >> > Does it mean there are to many directories ? Can you fix this ? > >> > >> i-nodes are the areas where the file system saves information such as > >> the owner, the size and pointers to the data area of a normal or special > >> file or a directory. > >> > >> 2 GB is a lot of space for a virgin FreeBSD installation. The base > >> system takes up to 170 MB on a clean disk here. > >> > >> - Have you tweaked the newfs options that sysinstall used? > >> - Have you installed any extra packages? How many and which? > > > > No i just installed 5.3 i386 base and ports and there is plenty of > > freespace on all default partitions availeble but when i do mkdir it > > tells me no inodes availeble. > > Show us the output of: > > # df -ik > $ df -ik Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 253678 35430 197954 15% 981 32041 3% / devfs 1 1 0 100% 0 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1e 253678 6 233378 0% 3 33019 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1f 673024 332902 286282 54% 87038 0 100% /usr /dev/ad0s1d 253678 240 233144 0% 98 32924 0% /var $ Its only the /usr partition that seems to have inode problems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:52:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410A016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:52:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE7F43D5E for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:52:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so88407rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:52:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EUYevErio5Wyd2drduoBRpywRdiYv6Xow6oJbgNF4r0ro9ycd9Fh5pwQrSNGXAQjeV2TxFrmvL3K8XwquZ18w+cl0rlpMrEulgq+ZsU7amGYXgECQOEnTg1IQcG7mQS3h5DC1XZU3Vd6+aGtfi9voB+VduaPNhD5AGs2k7GD7Tw= Received: by 10.38.65.14 with SMTP id n14mr467543rna; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:52:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: Jason Henson In-Reply-To: <20050314072135.73ECF16A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050314072135.73ECF16A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 91, Issue 29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:52:20 -0000 > From: Jason Henson > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:00:48 +0000 > Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) > On 03/13/05 15:44:32, John DeStefano wrote: > > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html > > > > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > > popping in.. > > > > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > > information. > > > > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? > > > > Thanks, as always, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > FreeBSD is very robust with power failures, but that was a reset > button. Do you have acpi on? When I hit my power button every once in > a while my system shuts down properly. Try booting into single user > mode and do a manual mount and fsck. > > And just to help you out: > > $ sysctl -ad | grep pipekva > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: Pipe KVA limit > kern.ipc.pipekva: Pipe KVA usage > $ sysctl -a | grep pipekva > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 8634368 > kern.ipc.pipekva: 344064 > Thank you Jason. I do have ACPI on. I believe booting into -s mode, manually mounting and fsck-ing the slices, and adding the two kernel paramenters to /boot/loader.conf as you suggsted has sorted me (or, at least, alleviated the system of kernel errors). I used your parameters ver batim; I will need to understand how the values relate to physical memory (only 320MB) before I tinker with them. Thanks again, ~John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:54:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D278316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD743D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so97161rna for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sRvagzZtR6hS4U3w6EqwV6Yv8iFVUVQBRK1bRF7m+3w8p2MWTDYTROiM59SXaz5jxOFbOgogPOWlRYaDp3q1HkNDAHqErYFTIGLEbRtXQsKgOLEUcjPKgVkBVXhHyp1TyrPNzKh7vhjTX7/Y8kMJWlRtTE+J8FC3GzSNk26B4D4= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr451427rnb; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:54:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:54:49 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: su: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:51 -0000 Why can i not su accessing the server true ssh ? $ su su: Sorry $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:54:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AA716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EEB43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GCsOdb002824; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:24 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GCskJa008215; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GCskU2008214; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:54:52 -0000 On 2005-03-16 13:36, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: >>"Colin J. Raven" writes: >>>Mem: 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free >>>Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >> >> Not a problem. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM > > Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the > handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the > URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another > thread on the list. > > Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. > > The issue is this: > Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free > and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. > > No way in creation this box should be swapping. Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 12:57:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AD116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:57:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp3.tin.it (vsmtp3alice.tin.it [212.216.176.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB4443D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from ims3e.cp.tin.it (212.216.176.219) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.027) id 4232AB90001B892A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:39 +0100 Received: from [192.168.70.183] by ims3e.cp.tin.it with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:38 +0100 Message-ID: <420008E500077C49@ims3e.cp.tin.it> From: v.demartino2@virgilio.it To: "FreeBSD" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 80.116.228.104 Subject: Problems with /var/spool/hylafax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:57:42 -0000 Under FBSD 5.3 I've just compiled hylafax from the ports, set up the mode= m with faxsetup and then started "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample sta= rt" ... BUT...... /var/log/messages complains that: VicBSD FaxQueuer[668]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory VicBSD HylaFAX[669]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax VicBSD FaxQueuer[739]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory VicBSD HylaFAX[740]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax What's the matter with it and what shall I do? Here it is a "ls -al /var/spool/hylafax" total 40 drwxr-xr-x 17 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 . drwx------ 9 daemon daemon 512 Mar 15 21:43 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root dialer 5426 Mar 15 21:43 COPYRIGHT prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 15 21:43 FIFO prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 16 09:07 FIFO.cuaa0 drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 archive drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:05 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 client drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 1536 Mar 15 21:43 config drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 dev drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 docq drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 doneq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 info drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 log drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 pollq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 recvq drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 sendq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:01 status drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 tmp Ciao Vittorio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527B716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE3943D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so82942rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:00:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=iO8/zuONyrmexhywODXFMrbZkC6N0Hc6XyqxinG0wQqJb+4Gne7Io8oHN5FKt9jkEoKP1KSzpfKSS7QITHrQsB//L43CR/XJdXLmpVG2hmFRiXMelqWjMYzBSgbINr9pgmY2zmALmh9paawtJw8SFZNoW1K1w5S1VPuTGRWe6MQ= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr243178rng; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:00:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:45 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: su: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:47 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:54:49 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Why can i not su accessing the server true ssh ? are you in the wheel group? check out /etc/pam.d/su > > $ su > su: Sorry > $ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Pietro "Piter" Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:02:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:02:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7289343D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:02:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 42A9F1A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:59:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 617961A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:59:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328EE61F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:02:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GD26JG063631; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:02:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:02:02 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050316140047.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:02:25 -0000 On Mar 16 at 14:54, Giorgos Keramidas asked: > On 2005-03-16 13:36, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >> On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: >>> "Colin J. Raven" writes: >>>> Mem: 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free >>>> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>> >>> Not a problem. >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM >> >> Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the >> handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the >> URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another >> thread on the list. >> >> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >> >> The issue is this: >> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >> >> No way in creation this box should be swapping. > > Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? No, it isn't: gonzo# sysctl -a |grep vm.swap_idle_enabled vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 14:01:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:06:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B1316A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:06:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hp2.euro.net.mk (hp2.euro.net.mk [212.110.94.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B8C43D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@euro.net.mk) Received: from [212.110.94.68] by hp2.euronet.com.mk (NTMail 7.00.0018/SG1971.09.57a4aa33) with ESMTP id wwvruaaa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:14 +0100 Message-ID: <42382F30.6010608@euro.net.mk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:05:52 +0100 From: Perica Veljanovski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VSMLoop: euronet.com.mk Subject: fdisk drive geometry problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:06:00 -0000 Hello I finally got another hdd for my home box, decided to do a fresh fbsd install and I ended up with a disk problem :( : ide0: 40GB [FreeBSD wannabe (ufs2) 10GB, storage2 (fat32) 30GB] ide2: 40GB [WinXP (ntfs) 10GB, storage1 (fat32) 30GB] Now when I begin the installation, and go to the partitioning section, fdisk complains about drive geometry and rearranges the drive. Here are the settings: cyls/heads/sectors 19xxx/16/255 (BIOS) 7xxx/16/63 (dmesg "this is what fbsd complains to") 4xxx/255/63 (the new fdisk rearrangement) and FreeBSD's fdisk seems to get off on setting the head count to 255!!! I tried setting the bios value and fdisk complains again, but for some reason when I swap the heads and sectors values it does not. Same goes for the dmesg values (drive geometry from the dmesg output). Since I have no experience with changing drive geometry, nor do I understand the bloody thing, I have several issues: - Will I loose the data on 'storage2' if I change the drive geometry? - How should I set up the new drive geometry? What setting is faster/better? more cyls or more sectors (since fdisk is set to use 255 heads)? - If I backup 'storage2', change drive geometry as fbsd/fdisk suggests (or whatever), create a 10g slice and leave the other space unpartitioned, will I be able to partition and format the drive to fat32 from WinXP? That's about it... any examples would be great! thanks ahead! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E080E16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E5443D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:06:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GD5fN1009480; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:05:41 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GD63GI008328; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GD630k008327; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:06:09 -0000 On 2005-03-16 13:49, Gert Cuykens wrote: >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:21 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: >> >> Show us the output of: >> >> # df -ik > > $ df -ik > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 253678 35430 197954 15% 981 32041 3% / > devfs 1 1 0 100% 0 0 100% /dev > /dev/ad0s1e 253678 6 233378 0% 3 33019 0% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1f 673024 332902 286282 54% 87038 0 100% /usr Here you are. Your /usr partition has no free i-nodes. Probably because you used too large block/fragment sizes when it was newfs'd. You have two options, both of which involve a reinstallation: a) Resplit the disk giving more space to /usr. b) Use a single, big root partition. One possible layout, if you choose (a) could be: Filesystem Size Mount-point Other /dev/ad0s1a 100-200 MB / - /dev/ad0s1b ??? MB - (swap, tmpfs) /dev/ad0s1e 200-300 MB /var - /dev/ad0s1f rest /usr the rest of the disk You can then use /usr/home for the home directories of users, and have most of your space in /usr (where it is needed). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:07:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84A716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:07:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF5E43D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GD7YEE002693; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:07:34 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GD7s32008368; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:07:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GD7sqH008367; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:07:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:07:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20050316130754.GC7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316140047.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316140047.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:07:59 -0000 On 2005-03-16 14:02, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >On Mar 16 at 14:54, Giorgos Keramidas asked: >>>Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >>> >>>The issue is this: >>>Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>>and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >>> >>>No way in creation this box should be swapping. >> >>Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? > > No, it isn't: > gonzo# sysctl -a |grep vm.swap_idle_enabled > vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 Strange. AFAIK, processes are not swapped out to disk unless there is a severe memory shortage. The usual case is to have them "paged" out, which is a bit different. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:08:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EAC16A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (awo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.74.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C30043D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2GD846T049581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:08:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <42382FB5.9010807@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:08:05 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050314) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/762/Mon Mar 14 00:35:33 2005 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: su: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:14 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: > Why can i not su accessing the server true ssh ? > > $ su > su: Sorry > $ http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063643.html Cheers, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:16:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B9116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:16:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0158D43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:16:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwgreene@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [67.70.39.192] X-Originating-Email: [mwgreene@sympatico.ca] Received: from pepstep ([67.70.39.192]) by bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:16:33 -0800 From: "Marco Greene" To: "FreeBSD List" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:17:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c52a2a$8ae4f160$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 13:16:33.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[6018D3C0:01C52A2A] Subject: PPPoE ip-up/ip-down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:16:40 -0000 Hi all, I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down = scripts and the fact that they do not work. I am experiencing the same thing = and I have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with = little success. I would really like to use these scripts. Are there any = hints? -I have set the permissions to 555 -#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script Are there any other things that I may have missed? Note: pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as = found on one of the links given by the handbook. Thanks, Marco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:18:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8593A16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:18:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2775943D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id EFE951A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:15:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 348651A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:14:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F48161F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:17:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GDHrVw063785; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:17:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:17:49 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316130754.GC7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050316141635.A2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316130754.GC7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:18:00 -0000 On Mar 16 at 15:07, Giorgos Keramidas said: > On 2005-03-16 14:02, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >> On Mar 16 at 14:54, Giorgos Keramidas asked: >>>> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >>>> >>>> The issue is this: >>>> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>>> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >>>> >>>> No way in creation this box should be swapping. >>> >>> Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? >> >> No, it isn't: >> gonzo# sysctl -a |grep vm.swap_idle_enabled >> vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 > > Strange. AFAIK, processes are not swapped out to disk unless there is a > severe memory shortage. The usual case is to have them "paged" out, > which is a bit different. That was my understanding also, and that's what's baffling us Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 14:17:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:21:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6D516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:21:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E43843D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so86964rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=fAyn9Wy/Knl/IA+NUmj7HcF0wjG8zlGHbvNczEo/nIAXik0g0XUlax728tkm/XRfHtTqHG5nF++jTLbh8yHRnbgEuzyE1/8sI9qCU997YHqj5NqPkKyCjFJAdgYi23VRhhskry/Zlf0uD5uS5TaET9HYoNCLr6pG3vD+vFRtUyY= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr467716rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:21:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:21:51 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:21:52 -0000 > Here you are. Your /usr partition has no free i-nodes. Probably > because you used too large block/fragment sizes when it was newfs'd. I pict default partitioning ? How big does the /usr need to be for base, ports mysql php apache ? Is there a make command that tells you how much space it needs to install ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:32:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C17516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:32:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E692943D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so99212rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:32:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mZT9bgK7M0oCK3TlAOxHss0hat2zkHJUvVdrdsl1ZbNFrHEZjo7FW/GlMI/TEvy8EUJLZGsiNKAoKi3DgJpxpEep2k96BJ0ouq/2TKDTqFMPpqpwovMuuPkstWDWQWJGnzhukfbmQKXrFGhlYUIJoZUMm3kK6n585HO6qr6L0ko= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr476086rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 05:32:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:45 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org In-Reply-To: <42382FB5.9010807@orchid.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42382FB5.9010807@orchid.homeunix.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: su: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:32:46 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:08:05 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Why can i not su accessing the server true ssh ? > > > > $ su > > su: Sorry > > $ > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2004-November/063643.html > > Cheers, > > Karol > > -- > Karol Kwiatkowski > thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:34:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D27116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:34:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C86243D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:34:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GDXq3m002446; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:33:52 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GDY1ZT008648; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:34:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GDY1N1008647; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:34:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:34:01 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-ID: <20050316133401.GA8571@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316140047.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <20050316130754.GC7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316141635.A2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316141635.A2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:34:20 -0000 On 2005-03-16 14:17, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >On Mar 16 at 15:07, Giorgos Keramidas said: >>On 2005-03-16 14:02, "Colin J. Raven" wrote: >>>On Mar 16 at 14:54, Giorgos Keramidas asked: >>>>>Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >>>>> >>>>>The issue is this: >>>>>Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>>>>and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >>>>> >>>>>No way in creation this box should be swapping. >>>> >>>>Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? >>> >>>No, it isn't: >>>gonzo# sysctl -a |grep vm.swap_idle_enabled >>>vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 >> >>Strange. AFAIK, processes are not swapped out to disk unless there is a >>severe memory shortage. The usual case is to have them "paged" out, >>which is a bit different. > > That was my understanding also, and that's what's baffling us Unless, of course, there _was_ a short period of memory shortage, some processes were swapped out (a pair of idle getty instances, for example) and they were never swapped back in because they are still idle. You can probably track this down to the specific process or processes that have the PS_INMEM bit turned off in their proc->p_sflag. But 116K seems too small to be a complete process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22EA16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:35:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0216E43D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:35:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2GDZ6Nd026646; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:35:07 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2GDZGdl008669; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:35:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2GDZGUT008668; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:35:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:35:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050316133516.GB8571@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:35:32 -0000 On 2005-03-16 14:21, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> Here you are. Your /usr partition has no free i-nodes. Probably >> because you used too large block/fragment sizes when it was newfs'd. > > I pict default partitioning ? How big does the /usr need to be for > base, ports mysql php apache ? Well, the default is just that: a "default". It certainly doesn't fit all the possible setups and all the possible installations. It's not that bad to diverge from the default a bit, when needed. > Is there a make command that tells you how much space it needs to install ? None that I know of. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 15 16:03:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8942016A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AA543D39 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harj7338@bellsouth.net) Received: from ws3 ([65.1.163.17]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20050315160303.FQIB20331.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ws3> for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:03:03 -0500 From: "Harry Reid" To: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:30:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:39:43 +0000 Subject: accounting package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:03:07 -0000 I am looking for a client server accounting package for industrial equipment dealers and distributors that will handle serialized whole good inventory, parts inventory and a service shop. Text based Unix or Linux platform is fine. Any recommendations? HR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:44:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1684116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:44:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CD043D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:44:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 3FDDE1A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:41:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E20A01A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:41:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2218F61F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:44:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GDi4h5064034; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:44:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:43:59 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316133401.GA8571@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050316143538.Y2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316125446.GA7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316130754.GC7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316133401.GA8571@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:44:12 -0000 On Mar 16 at 15:34, Giorgos Keramidas suggested: >>>>>> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >>>>>> >>>>>> The issue is this: >>>>>> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>>>>> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >>>>>> >>>>>> No way in creation this box should be swapping. >>>>> >>>>> Do you, by any chance, have vm.swap_idle_enabled set to 1? >>>> >>>> No, it isn't: >>>> gonzo# sysctl -a |grep vm.swap_idle_enabled >>>> vm.swap_idle_enabled: 0 >>> >>> Strange. AFAIK, processes are not swapped out to disk unless there is a >>> severe memory shortage. The usual case is to have them "paged" out, >>> which is a bit different. >> >> That was my understanding also, and that's what's baffling us > > Unless, of course, there _was_ a short period of memory shortage, some > processes were swapped out (a pair of idle getty instances, for example) > and they were never swapped back in because they are still idle. > > You can probably track this down to the specific process or processes > that have the PS_INMEM bit turned off in their proc->p_sflag. But 116K > seems too small to be a complete process. This is going way above my head now, but great as a learning process anyway! May I ask how we would go about tracking processes with the PS-INMEM bit turned off? That sounds as if - to me, still a journeyman on the road to knowledge - grepping multiple source trees might be necessary, which frankly is a daunting process (to say the very least). Is there one meta-search string that would show this? and if so, where should this search be applied? Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 14:43:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 13:50:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CBC16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:50:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw.dgrp.sk (mailgw.dgrp.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344A643D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 0F80934A5A8; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.38]) by mailgw.dgrp.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77A34A5A2; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from lk.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.47]) by webmail.tempest.sk (Lotus Domino Release 6.5.2) with ESMTP id 2005031614504322-551 ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:43 +0100 Received: from lk.tempest.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2GDo2ni014893; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren@lk.tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2GDo2fR014888; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from koren) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200503161350.j2GDo2fR014888@lk.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com In-reply-to: <42381DF3.5060906@dial.pipex.com> (message from Alex Zbyslaw on Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:52:19 +0000) References: <200503140938.j2E9c2EM024428@lk.tempest.sk> <42370004.5060506@dial.pipex.com> <200503160953.j2G9rjKR003358@lk.tempest.sk> <42381DF3.5060906@dial.pipex.com> X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 14:50:43, Serialize by Router on Domino1/DGRP(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 16.03.2005 14:50:43, Serialize complete at 16.03.2005 14:50:43 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on mailgw X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup on DDS-4 tapes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:50:49 -0000 > Ludo Koren wrote: >> It doesn't help either... The result is the same. >> >> > Just to check I'm understanding your problem correctly -- > you're expecting to write much more data to the tape than is > actually being written. That's right. I suppose that 54GB of data could fit on 2 40GB tapes... > If that's correct, then there's a couple things I can think of: > 1) Your tape drive isn't doing hardware compression. Check the > manual and see if there are any dip switches you need to set. > (Make a note of how they're set before you change anything, so > you can go back to what you had originally!). I'll check this > When you say the result is the same, if it used exactly the > same number of tapes (down to the decimal point) then that > definitely suggests that your tape drive is not compressing. > 2) The data you're writing to the tape is already mostly > compressed, so you won't fit as much as you might if it were > uncompressed data. I will do statistics about files. > Also, the 40Gb per tape that you quote is, I think, the MAXIMUM > amount of data the tape will take. It's only 20Gb native. > 40Gb is how much will fit at optimum compression, which you > never get. > It's unlikely to be a FreeBSD problem because I regularly fit > 6-7Gb on a DDS-2, which has a native size of 4Gb. I use dump > options like the ones in my last message. > --Alex Thank, for your suggestions. lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:01:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7C116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF4F43D53 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DBZ5Y-000K8K-QS; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:01:32 -0500 Received: from 209.134.164.137 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:01:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2100.209.134.164.137.1110981692.squirrel@209.134.164.137> In-Reply-To: References: <4557.24.98.86.57.1110773047.squirrel@24.98.86.57> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:01:34 -0000 I've recently started using devialog (http://devialog.sourceforge.net/), which is pretty good at sending exceptions to you. Examlog (http://examlog.sourceforge.net/index.php) is by far the most popular that I've seen, but I have not had a chance to try it on FreeBSD. Lire (http://logreport.org/lire/) is a good all-around choice - it has built in recognition for many different types of logs, but I found it a bit hard to use. If you are comfortable with it, I'd try this one. I've heard of several companies that have part of the security monitoring built around logwatch (http://www2.logwatch.org:81/), but it takes a good amount of customizing to get it to where it's really useful. Jerry http://www.syslog.org > On 2005-03-14, Jerry Bell wrote: >> There are many tools that will send alerts to you, but very few that >> will >> work "out of the box", without some level of tuning. There is a >> collection of them here: >> http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-4.phtml and here: >> http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-19.phtml > > I see lots of log analizer tools. Which one is a good choice? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:06:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE63616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BA643D62 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 14398 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 14:06:04 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2005 14:06:04 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6D39482; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:06:01 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: patrick References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Mar 2005 09:06:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44k6o7n0s6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source-upgrading from FreeBSD 4.9 to 4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:05 -0000 patrick writes: > I'm trying to do a source upgrade from FreeBSD 4.9 to 4.11, but during > the "make buildworld", I get the following: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs > make: don't know how to make stack.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs. > *** Error code 1 > ... I don't have a RELENG_4 system around any more, but it sounds like you're missing part of the source tree you should have. Do you have /usr/src/contrib/cvs/src/stack.c? How did you do the update of your sources? > I didn't see any mention of this in the handbook, but do I have to > upgrade to 4.10 first, and then go up to 4.11? No. Remember to check /usr/src/UPDATING for more information before starting an upgrade... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DA716A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A9743D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from delphij@frontfree.net) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net (unknown [219.239.99.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87350EB0AC3 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:06:14 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1D61317FF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:06:12 +0800 (CST) Received: from beastie.frontfree.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (beastie.frontfree.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34836-07; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:06:00 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [61.49.186.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by beastie.frontfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BF6130D37; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:05:55 +0800 (CST) From: Xin LI To: juki@one2net.co.ug In-Reply-To: <3129.81.199.88.27.1110981689.squirrel@mail.one2net.co.ug> References: <3129.81.199.88.27.1110981689.squirrel@mail.one2net.co.ug> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-peCDEnSv+PwyiP2gpiQc" Organization: The FreeBSD Simplified Chinese Project Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:04:39 +0800 Message-Id: <1110981879.894.7.camel@spirit> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at frontfree.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 4.10-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: delphij@delphij.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:06:17 -0000 --=-peCDEnSv+PwyiP2gpiQc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [redirected to questions@ since this is not -net stuff] Hi, Julius, =E5=9C=A8 2005-03-16=E4=B8=89=E7=9A=84 17:01 +0300=EF=BC=8CJulius Kidubuka= =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > Hi all, >=20 > I am trying to upgrade from 4.10-RELEASE to 4.10-STABLE and I have gone > through the following steps; >=20 > 1. make buildworld > 2. make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERN > 3. make installkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERN > 4. booted into single user mode and did, mount -u /, mount -a > 5. make installworld > 6. mergemaster > 7. then finally rebooted >=20 > My problem is after I have rebooted and issued the command "uname -a", I > still find that am running 4.10-RELEASE yet I have actually gone through > all the steps above without any errors at all. >=20 > Is there anything I could be doing wrong? Are you absolutely sure that you are sync'ing with 4-STABLE (now 4.11-STABLE), which is identified by "RELENG_4"? If you are sync'ing with RELENG_4_10, that's the 4.10-RELEASE security branch. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ --=-peCDEnSv+PwyiP2gpiQc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: =?UTF-8?Q?=E8=BF=99=E6=98=AF=E4=BF=A1=E4=BB=B6=E7=9A=84=E6=95=B0?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=AD=97=E7=AD=BE=E5=90=8D=E9=83=A8?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=88=86?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCODz3/cVsHxFZiIoRAh49AJ4y2rPp0oWy0SWa8bYOGwqYWaB4ngCfYD0J 2Usf3d7YC0nfvdrMCvkQ4Dk= =iksE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-peCDEnSv+PwyiP2gpiQc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD2116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.championrealty.com (mail.fnistools.com [206.54.148.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86F343D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TimSimmons@Championrealty.com) Received: from Weasel [141.157.27.194] by mail.championrealty.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id AE0C216500C2; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:09:16 -0600 From: "Tim Simmons" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:09:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcUqMbztXLpCKbPdTKS9oL/Adgw7mQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> Subject: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:09:18 -0000 Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between an appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What I'm trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network as the appletalk file server to be able to access files on that server. Windows XP, it would seem, does not support appletalk natively. Please CC any responses to me. Thank you. Timothy R. Simmons IT Technician Champion Realty Inc. Direct Line: 410-975-3328 Office: 410-544-6004 E-mail: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:24:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0C016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:24:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF1843D55 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:24:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 32071 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 14:24:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2005 14:24:16 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9799182; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:24:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 16 Mar 2005 09:24:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: <44fyyvmzxt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:24:18 -0000 "Colin J. Raven" writes: > On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM > > Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the > handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the > URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another > thread on the list. > > Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. > > The issue is this: > Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free > and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. The same logic applies to some extent, though. > No way in creation this box should be swapping. I have noticed that FreeBSD 5.x is swapping out small amounts of memory in situations (as near I can tell; it is quite hard to be sure that the situation is really identical) where 4.x was not. I haven't really tried to track down exactly what's going on, but it's always been less than the text segment of any task in the system, so I was pretty sure I wasn't seeing a problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:29:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B62116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB9F43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so5986wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:29:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PhWX/hwZa8E+az99KlWX24ZnaYoHpn28OQINQPEWlgwOQ/36ZXYFzefFp7ePfqgG4tU+RrSDiCrf7Duo2+bAYFOoxTluZYR7zrNxktMbQlnVm475Unrq/ip9QS6IiT6ICKFVi/yUWpY0s+2CHorXsX6Tg04MYFZsJNHPivJz9jo= Received: by 10.54.54.78 with SMTP id c78mr1174776wra; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.8.3 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:29:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:29:35 +0200 From: Perttu Laine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: upgrade 5.3 to 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Perttu Laine List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:39 -0000 Hi! If I want upgrade 5.3 to 5.4 is this all I need to do: 1. change RELENG_5_3 to 5_4 and cvsup sources. 2. make buildworld 3. make buildkernel KERNCONF= 4. make installkernel KERNCONF= 5. reboot to single user 6. mergemaster -p 7. make installworld 8. mergemaster 9. reboot -- kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB14B16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07343D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 090DD1A6E1; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:26:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 9EAD21A6D5; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:26:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AD561F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GETke6064498; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:42 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44fyyvmzxt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: <20050316152736.G2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org><44fyyvmzxt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:29:56 -0000 On Mar 16 at 09:24, Lowell Gilbert then said: > "Colin J. Raven" writes: > >> On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM >> >> Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the >> handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the >> URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another >> thread on the list. >> >> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >> >> The issue is this: >> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. > > The same logic applies to some extent, though. > >> No way in creation this box should be swapping. > > I have noticed that FreeBSD 5.x is swapping out small amounts of > memory in situations (as near I can tell; it is quite hard to be sure > that the situation is really identical) where 4.x was not. I haven't > really tried to track down exactly what's going on, but it's always > been less than the text segment of any task in the system, so I was > pretty sure I wasn't seeing a problem. Except (if I'm following you sequentially, and if I'm not, then apologies!) this is FreeBSD 4.11. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 15:29:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:30:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF8F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:30:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9854143D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-109-18-13.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.109.18.13])j2GEUT5K191134 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:30:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:30:28 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316083028.6929137b@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> References: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sshd behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:30:35 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:41:09 +0300 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" wrote: > Hi. I see strange to me behaviour of sshd. Please tell me is it > bug or feature? > > I use following network configuration: > > ####### ########### ########## > # LAN # -> # gateway # -> # router # > ####### ########### ########## > > Gateway machine has sshd. Normally I work from LAN on the gateway > good. But when connection with provider's router broken: > > ####### ########### ########## > # LAN # -> # gateway # -X-> # router # > ####### ########### ########## > > I can't login from LAN to gateway. Moreover, I can't login from > gateway to itself, using loop interface. But other Network > servicec working good. For example, I can do > # telnet gateway 25 > from LAN. I've seen this same behavior on a 5.3 server when Bind crashes/gets messed up by cPanel. I suspect the problem is ssh trying to do a reverse dns lookup, which doesn't timeout until the login has timed out as well. In my case I can see a fast response from the server if I telnet to it on port 22, but I never get the password prompt. The logfiles also show login timeouts when I'm finally able to login again. You might try setting "UseDNS no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. I believe this will still make it record the ip used for login, but it won't try and do a reverse dns lookup on the ip. HTH, Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0418F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:48:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D10343D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:48:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2GEl8A27507; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:47:08 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503161447.j2GEl8A27507@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:47:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <44fyyvmzxt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> from "Lowell Gilbert" at Mar 16, 2005 09:24:14 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Colin J. Raven" cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:48:05 -0000 > > "Colin J. Raven" writes: > > > On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM > > > > Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the > > handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the > > URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another > > thread on the list. > > > > Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. > > > > The issue is this: > > Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free > > and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. > > The same logic applies to some extent, though. > > > No way in creation this box should be swapping. > > I have noticed that FreeBSD 5.x is swapping out small amounts of > memory in situations (as near I can tell; it is quite hard to be sure > that the situation is really identical) where 4.x was not. I haven't > really tried to track down exactly what's going on, but it's always > been less than the text segment of any task in the system, so I was > pretty sure I wasn't seeing a problem. Swap space is also used for paging. If you are running through some big file or have processes that are live but not active, they can use up some page space. That space just stays there until it is needed otherwise. At least that is my understanding. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:54:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C0116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from broad.100mwh.com (broad.100mwh.com [205.214.86.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7396B43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rseals@vdsi.net) Received: from aqua.magellanhealth.com ([204.193.75.20] helo=10.200.10.14) by broad.100mwh.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DBZuJ-0006oN-Vj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:53:38 -0600 From: Ray Seals To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Virtual Data Systems, Inc. Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:55:27 -0600 Message-Id: <1110984927.668.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - broad.100mwh.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - vdsi.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: mount_smbfs can't get handle to requester X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rseals@vdsi.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:54:02 -0000 I have a box running 4.5. I try to execute the mount_smbfs I get "mount_smbfs: can't get handle to requester (no /dev/nsmb* device)". When I do an ls of the /dev directory I see the following devices: /dev/nsmb0 /dev/smb0 /dev/smb1 Anyone seen this before? Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 14:58:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FD716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795AC43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2GEwTp27548; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503161458.j2GEwTp27548@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: FreeBSD@euro.net.mk (Perica Veljanovski) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:58:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <42380512.7060206@euro.net.mk> from "Perica Veljanovski" at Mar 16, 2005 11:06:11 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall/fdisk drive geometry problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:58:46 -0000 > > Hello > > I finally got another hdd for my home box, decided to do a fresh fbsd > install and I ended up with a disk problem :( : > > ide0: 40GB [FreeBSD wannabe (ufs2) 10GB, storage2 (fat32) 30GB] > ide2: 40GB [WinXP (ntfs) 10GB, storage1 (fat32) 30GB] > > Now when I begin the installation, and go to the partitioning section, > fdisk complains about drive geometry and rearranges the drive. Here are > the settings: > > cyls/heads/sectors > 19xxx/16/255 (BIOS) > 7xxx/16/63 (dmesg "this is what fbsd complains to") > 4xxx/255/63 (the new fdisk rearrangement) > > and FreeBSD's fdisk seems to get off on setting the head count to 255!!! > I tried setting the bios value and fdisk complains again, but for some > reason when I swap the heads and sectors values it does not. Same goes > for the dmesg values (drive geometry from the dmesg output). > > Since I have no experience with changing drive geometry, nor do I > understand the bloody thing, I have several issues: > > - Will I loose the data on 'storage2' if I change the drive geometry? > - How should I set up the new drive geometry? What setting is > faster/better? more cyls or more sectors (since fdisk is set to use 255 > heads)? > - If I backup 'storage2', change drive geometry as fbsd/fdisk suggests > (or whatever), create a 10g slice and leave the other space > unpartitioned, will I be able to partition and format the drive to fat32 > from WinXP? Generally, I don't tink with drive geometry. I just let the system take care of it. I haven't done much with IDE - only a couple of systems - but it seemed to work the same on those. The geometry values you see are mostly fiction and are there for some historical (hysterical??) reasons. What fdisk sees will not match what is really on the disk. There is a FAQ and lots of stuff in the archives on this. Some of the entries, especially the FAQ explain it fairly well - better than I can. But, the sum of it is just go ahead and try the new disk. Don't change BIOS or anything about the gometry. Ignore its whining. If it seems to work, then the system knows what it is doing. If it doesn't, then take the details from what goes wrong and ask some more questions. In the meantime, don't do anything with your old disk, just to be careful. ////jerry > > > That's about it... any examples would be great! > > thanks ahead! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:13:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D79116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:13:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313DF43D70 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:13:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id D644D1A6F0; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:10:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (fia148-72.dsl.hccnet.nl [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 323D31A6EF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:10:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317E561F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:12:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2GFCudj064929; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:12:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:12:52 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200503161447.j2GEl8A27507@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20050316154932.F2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <200503161447.j2GEl8A27507@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:13:09 -0000 On Mar 16 at 09:47, Jerry McAllister commented: >> >> "Colin J. Raven" writes: >> >>> On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: >> >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM >>> >>> Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the >>> handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the >>> URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another >>> thread on the list. >>> >>> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. >>> >>> The issue is this: >>> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >>> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. >> >> The same logic applies to some extent, though. >> >>> No way in creation this box should be swapping. >> >> I have noticed that FreeBSD 5.x is swapping out small amounts of >> memory in situations (as near I can tell; it is quite hard to be sure >> that the situation is really identical) where 4.x was not. I haven't >> really tried to track down exactly what's going on, but it's always >> been less than the text segment of any task in the system, so I was >> pretty sure I wasn't seeing a problem. > > Swap space is also used for paging. If you are running through some > big file or have processes that are live but not active, they can > use up some page space. That space just stays there until it is > needed otherwise. At least that is my understanding. With 4GB of RAM to chew on, I must say this surprises me more than a bit. Recalling earlier in this thread, I said the box that this one replaced had dual Athlon MP's (forget what speed) and 1GB of RAM. It *never* swapped. It ran 4.10, then later upgraded to 5.3. We couldn't do 5.3 on this box because some controllers on the mobo weren't (yet) supported, so we elected to install 4.11. Then we took some jobs away from this server and reassigned 'em elsewhere (only because of the delay in sourcing the replacement) . So - purely theoretically - this server *should* have been sitting around less than fully tasked. It is way more powerful (by significant orders of magnitude) CPU-wise, has four times as much - and faster - memory, a faster FSB, SATA instead of ATA drives, 4.11-and-not-the-bleeding-edge-choice-of-OS. What I'm saying is that (almost) any of these factors taken individually should show a fairly relaxed, under-tasked errr..."happy" box. Take the cumulative effect of the rather healthy upgrade and this box should be sitting around picking its nose so to speak, and watching TV because it has so little to do...hell we took work *away* from it. Except it swaps...sometimes as much as 2MB, mostly around 100 - 350K. I bring this to the list only because of the utterly insane nature of the situation. It's as if you replaced your 333MHZ 256MB/memory Dell Dimension with a dual 3.0 Xeon/4GB HP Kayak (or equivalent) workstation, then in the middle of reading email you suddenly hear it writing to disk, check your taskmanager and discover to your absolute horror that the thing is swapping...... We have no custom apps running here, only stuff that comes right out of the ports tree. We're running email, DNS (BIND9)+PowerDNS, various A/V and antispam packages, screen, pine, mc, apache, perl, php, mysql, Courier IMAP, Postfix....absolutely nothing unusual that isn't run every day in hundreds of thousands of production environments. The custom stuff that *does* have the potential (but never did so on the old lower powered box) to use up memory has been moved off to another server or two. So there we have it....the mystery continues :) Thanks for your ongoing interest and curiosity. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Wed Mar 16 16:10:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:25:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587C616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:25:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F77043D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E301513C71D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:25:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:25:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 52840 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2005 15:25:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 15:25:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:25:04 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: <20050316162104.S52198@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:25:24 -0000 * Giorgos Keramidas [2005-03-16 15:06 +0200] > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on > > /dev/ad0s1a 253678 35430 197954 15% 981 32041 3% / > > devfs 1 1 0 100% 0 0 100% /dev > > /dev/ad0s1e 253678 6 233378 0% 3 33019 0% /tmp > > /dev/ad0s1f 673024 332902 286282 54% 87038 0 100% /usr > > You have two options, both of which involve a reinstallation: > > a) Resplit the disk giving more space to /usr. > b) Use a single, big root partition. If he should not have the possibility to just wipe the entire disk to reinstall it (eg. this is his only disk and it is full of valuable data), he might be able to boot into single user, mount /usr and /tmp, and cram the entire contents of /usr into /tmp (using some sort of compression, e.g gzip) and then newfs /usr with more sensible values before restoring the contents from /tmp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:26:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748AF16A4DB for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0230743D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:26:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2GFPllj015922; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:25:47 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Harry Reid In-Reply-To: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> References: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:25:46 +0000 Message-Id: <1110986746.882.155.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: accounting package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:26:14 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 09:30 -0500, Harry Reid wrote: > I am looking for a client server accounting package for industrial equipment > dealers and distributors that will handle serialized whole good inventory, > parts inventory and a service shop. Text based Unix or Linux platform is > fine. Any recommendations? I've been using sql-ledger for a while, it has good inventory/bills of material stuff: With the assembly feature you can build manufactured goods from parts, services, labor units and assemblies. When the assembly is sold all the accounts linked to the individual parts, services, labor units and assemblies are updated and stock levels adjusted accordingly. If an item belonging to an assembly is changed all assemblies are updated as well. And, just as importantly, I'm aware of no other open source package that has the same range of functionality. http://www.sql-ledger.org Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:39:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2F716A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:39:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0258A43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:39:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamesd.earl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so755wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=atn4muaT8xyhPkgMHrCMEfom+ghTXhodYojQaRyBQltVe/NJ8T53De2rFcffPM8MK6lLUcOk1YRH8wZi7yCmz13qAwS1uDwpahTLbR22RkzPMbGbHA/sYzaPxMyqcVCvD5wO/jUP/YDMOx9At24nbgBAGkuZN5T+BqNcFdUBz/0= Received: by 10.54.57.25 with SMTP id f25mr826036wra; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.14 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:39:23 -0700 From: James Earl To: Harry Reid , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> Subject: Re: accounting package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: james@icionline.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:39:24 -0000 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:30:06 -0500, Harry Reid wrote: > I am looking for a client server accounting package for industrial equipment > dealers and distributors that will handle serialized whole good inventory, > parts inventory and a service shop. Text based Unix or Linux platform is > fine. Any recommendations? > > HR You may also want to check out Compiere. I've never used it personally. It caught my interest recently because they are releasing some sort of database independence module. http://www.compiere.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/compiere/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:43:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC4B16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:43:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4CE43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:43:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2GFh64f015960; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:43:06 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Madhusudan Singh In-Reply-To: <200503131211.25734.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> References: <200503131211.25734.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:43:06 +0000 Message-Id: <1110987786.882.161.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Need help setting up qmail / binc imap on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:43:21 -0000 On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 12:11 -0500, Madhusudan Singh wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to implement a qmail based mailserver with binc imap on FreeBSD > 5.3-RELEASE using the instructions found on : I don't use binc-imap, so was reluctant to answer. But nobody else has, so: > > > http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin.php > > I am using packet filter (pf) to setup the firewall. I have added the > following rules to permit incoming traffic on ports 993 (imaps) and 465 > (smtps) : I assume your firewall allows all connections from localhost. If so... [...] > However, when I try to connect to the server using openssl : > > /usr/local/ssl/bin/openssl s_client -connect :993 -crlf > connect: Connection refused > connect:errno=29 Maybe on the server itself try localhost for to eliminate the firewall angle. > > I have generated a .pem file for SSL over binc imap and made the suggested > additions to /usr/local/etc/bincimap/bincimap.conf. > > Upon consulting /var/log/qmail/current, I see a slew of messages like : > > @400000004233d471384eecb4 delivery 2: deferral: > Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ > @400000004233d4713850679c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 So you have a permissions problem for qmail. Do you also have vpopmail running? If so, you need very particular permissions for the vpopmail/domains directories. drwx------ 5 vpopmail vchkpw 512 Dec 14 2003 domains Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:52:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D196D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:52:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D6243D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:52:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2GFqBVP029312; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:52:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j2GFqA0C029309; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:52:10 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:52:10 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Tim Simmons In-Reply-To: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> Message-ID: <20050316164850.J99436@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:52:14 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Tim Simmons wrote: > Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between an > appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What I'm > trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network as the > appletalk file server to be able to access files on that server. Windows XP, > it would seem, does not support appletalk natively. Please CC any responses > to me. Thank you. Afaik, no, sorry. FreeBSD can act as an appletalk file server (by using the netatalk port and the appletalk kernel extension), but it is not able to mount remote filesystems via appletalk. Mac OS X and Darwin can do so; thus I think, Darwin wood be a good choice for you. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:54:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7DD16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuse1.fusemail.net (smtp.fusemail.net [69.31.1.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBB043D53 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:54:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DBaqi-0003On-DF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:20 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:54:27 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:54:31 -0000 Hello, When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /dev/null cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or directory dmake: Error code 1, while making './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. Does anyone know why this might happen or what I can do to fix it? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:56:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209A116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:56:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiba.meibin.jp (shiba.meibin.jp [211.18.246.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13C7A43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 23985 invoked by uid 1011); 16 Mar 2005 15:56:18 -0000 Received: from 192.168.10.8 by shiba.meibin.jp (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/705. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-2.8/3.0):. Processed in 2.222337 secs); 16 Mar 2005 15:56:18 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MEIBIN-Mail-From: lukek@meibin.net via shiba.meibin.jp X-Antivirus-MEIBIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-2.8/3.0):. Processed in 2.222337 secs Process 23977) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.8?) (lukek@meibin.net@192.168.10.8) by shiba.meibin.jp with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 15:56:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:54:02 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: "Tim Simmons" In-Reply-To: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> References: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> Message-Id: <20050317005152.536D.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:56:52 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:09:16 -0500 "Tim Simmons" spake thus: > Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between an > appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What I'm > trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network as the > appletalk file server to be able to access files on that server. Windows XP, > it would seem, does not support appletalk natively. Please CC any responses > to me. Thank you. > Not exactly the same as you are trying to do here but I have in the past run both netatalk and samba on the same FBSD machine to share the same FS between apple and winblows clients. Was pretty stable for a couple of years and then I didn't need to do that anymore so I uninstalled netatalk. Can you move the FS to a FBSD box ? If so that would be my suggestion. HTH LukeK -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:00:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:00:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4BC43D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C356DC62547; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:00:47 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 40sqm7pK83msZ09s72eyFA 1110988847 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4454B26A03; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1DBawv-0004Mb-0i; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:00:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:00:44 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" Message-ID: <20050316160044.GS8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y51z1SGMnxVzkhDv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3FDF A406 B149 3959 A8CB C5A9 3B46 4812 D852 7E49 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:00:50 -0000 --Y51z1SGMnxVzkhDv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:41:09AM +0300, Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote: > Hi. I see strange to me behaviour of sshd. Please tell me is it > bug or feature? >=20 > I use following network configuration: >=20 > ####### ########### ########## > # LAN # -> # gateway # -> # router # > ####### ########### ########## >=20 > Gateway machine has sshd. Normally I work from LAN on the gateway > good. But when connection with provider's router broken: >=20 > ####### ########### ########## > # LAN # -> # gateway # -X-> # router # > ####### ########### ########## >=20 > I can't login from LAN to gateway. Moreover, I can't login from > gateway to itself, using loop interface. But other Network > servicec working good. For example, I can do > # telnet gateway 25 > from LAN. >=20 > Provider's router is default router in /etc/rc.conf. As another poster mentioned, the problem is likely related to DNS, and I have experienced it as well. If you are using Privilege Separation, then an sshd process will chroot itself into /var/empty before performing authentication. /var/empty is itself usually empty. One thing you can do is to make the dir /var/empty/etc and then drop a copy of your /etc/hosts file into the newly created /var/empty/etc/ directory. You might want to make sure that the hosts file contains a mapping to the LAN machines which you want to ssh from. Keep in mind that /var/empty has the schg flag set, so you won't be able to copy anything to it without disabling this first. See more at `man chflags`. Try something like this: # chflags -R noschg /var/empty # mkdir /var/empty/etc # cp /etc/hosts /var/empty/etc # chflags -R schg /var/empty This will likely clear up your problem. Nathan --Y51z1SGMnxVzkhDv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCOFgsO0ZIEthSfkkRAjAcAKCoKQClkmST1vJC0A051kCPtdBfnACcCjsE KYDlHo7CtdAsJaJK5xsshaA= =sywT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y51z1SGMnxVzkhDv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:01:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB2516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:01:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B5043D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:01:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net) Received: from [10.0.0.8] (63-225-97-116.dnvr.qwest.net[63.225.97.116]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005031616014201400ov5dqe>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:01:42 +0000 From: Aaron Siegel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:01:50 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> In-Reply-To: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503160901.51015.bulk_mail@siegel-tech.net> Subject: Re: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aj@siegel-tech.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:01:44 -0000 I have recently performed that exact operation, I had a lot of trouble with filenames. Created a common shared folder using samba and AppleTalk using netatalk. I did not spend much time configure the share. I was pushed for time and a little lazy. On Wednesday 16 March 2005 07:09, Tim Simmons wrote: > Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between an > appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What I'm > trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network as the > appletalk file server to be able to access files on that server. Windows > XP, it would seem, does not support appletalk natively. Please CC any > responses to me. Thank you. > > Timothy R. Simmons > IT Technician > Champion Realty Inc. > Direct Line: 410-975-3328 > Office: 410-544-6004 > E-mail: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:04:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F0816A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.championrealty.com (mail.fnistools.com [206.54.148.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D39843D5E for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:04:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TimSimmons@Championrealty.com) Received: from Weasel [141.157.27.194] by mail.championrealty.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A903254D009C; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:04:19 -0600 From: "Tim Simmons" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:04:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050317005152.536D.LUKEK@meibin.net> Thread-Index: AcUqQMKJLVEh/Z33SEWkMa4B8Oq/YgAAPnXQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <200503161004676.SM03272@Weasel> Subject: RE: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:04:21 -0000 Unfortunately, I can't change the server. It's a server for our marketing department, and they like it the way it is. Timothy R. Simmons IT Technician Champion Realty Inc. Direct Line: 410-975-3328 Office: 410-544-6004 E-mail: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com -----Original Message----- From: Luke Kearney [mailto:lukek@meibin.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:54 AM To: Tim Simmons Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appletalk/Samba? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:09:16 -0500 "Tim Simmons" spake thus: > Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between > an appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What > I'm trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network > as the appletalk file server to be able to access files on that > server. Windows XP, it would seem, does not support appletalk > natively. Please CC any responses to me. Thank you. > Not exactly the same as you are trying to do here but I have in the past run both netatalk and samba on the same FBSD machine to share the same FS between apple and winblows clients. Was pretty stable for a couple of years and then I didn't need to do that anymore so I uninstalled netatalk. Can you move the FS to a FBSD box ? If so that would be my suggestion. HTH LukeK -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:13:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7357C16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:13:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3502643D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:13:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005031616133801300oeg8ne>; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <42385D34.5000000@munat.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:22:12 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com> <200503160214.22289.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503160214.22289.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mozilla port issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:13:39 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Until the upgrade is done you should set > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="YES" in your make file. portmanager will be > able to do the upgrade, but when it can't upgrade one port like mozilla > it won't upgrade anything that depends on mozilla either. > Ok, I'll give that a shot... but are you saying then that portmanager does not suffer the same problems with gnome as portupgrade? If so, kewl... Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:22:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E88F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BEA43D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so162519rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:22:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GdVMC7J1jxZVB5yxN2bg+pV02lp+8ETFdPJSGq0DqHV7JvCm+6YzQuWHeF/UKavebWHZmfkBgruFtYsBWDL+ZuHHjsHhhGDx2zrXB1FpGmeWdyMKkHjo7lV5jBH8ERNwqL1zPxfG9Hkw1YMVZkLBowdrNHyeTKMuA//wWlILbys= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr621386rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:22:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:22:34 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Ben Munat In-Reply-To: <42385D34.5000000@munat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com><42385D34.5000000@munat.com> cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mozilla port issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:22:35 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:22:12 -0800, Ben Munat wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > > Until the upgrade is done you should set > > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="YES" in your make file. portmanager will be > > able to do the upgrade, but when it can't upgrade one port like mozilla > > it won't upgrade anything that depends on mozilla either. > > > Ok, I'll give that a shot... but are you saying then that portmanager does not suffer the > same problems with gnome as portupgrade? If so, kewl... > > Ben > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > just pkg delete everything that boders portmanager -u it worked fine for me the dependency error slows down the hole process ALOT if you have many things to upgrade From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:23:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6233D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:23:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3DE43D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:23:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDG00M6LDJQJJR3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:23:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 087D42CE75B; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:23:49 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <42385D34.5000000@munat.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503160823.49702.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4237F34B.1000901@munat.com> <200503160214.22289.ringworm01@gmail.com> <42385D34.5000000@munat.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: mozilla port issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:23:53 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 08:22 am, Ben Munat wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Until the upgrade is done you should set > > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="YES" in your make file. portmanager will > > be able to do the upgrade, but when it can't upgrade one port like > > mozilla it won't upgrade anything that depends on mozilla either. > > Ok, I'll give that a shot... but are you saying then that portmanager > does not suffer the same problems with gnome as portupgrade? If so, > kewl... > > Ben You may have to run portmanager more than once to get everything done but for the most part it seems to be handling the gnome upgrade OK. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:27:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F3016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:27:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server-06.mcc-sys.com (server-06.mcc-sys.com [216.217.229.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B37543D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blake@applesoft.com) Received: from applesoft.com (server-32.mcc-sys.com [216.217.229.161]) by server-06.mcc-sys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148D99FC4; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:31:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] [64.167.74.197] by applesoft.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.12) id AE025430256; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:25:38 -0600 In-Reply-To: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> References: <200503160809293.SM03272@Weasel> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Michalak Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:26:57 -0800 To: Tim Simmons X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Appletalk/Samba? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:27:31 -0000 Are you using MacOS X or MacOS classic? MacOS X comes with SAMBA software native which means Macintosh and Windows clients can share Windows volumes natively. How does this sound? -Adam On Mar 16, 2005, at 6:09 AM, Tim Simmons wrote: Is it possible to set up a FreeBSD server to act as a gateway between an appletalk file server and a group of tcp/ip based windows PCs? What I'm trying to do is enable a group of PCs on the same physical network as the appletalk file server to be able to access files on that server. Windows XP, it would seem, does not support appletalk natively. Please CC any responses to me. Thank you. Timothy R. Simmons IT Technician Champion Realty Inc. Direct Line: 410-975-3328 Office: 410-544-6004 E-mail: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:30:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BB016A522; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harik.murex.com (mail.murex.com [194.98.239.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCEC43D41; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from interscan.fr.murex.com (iscan.murex.fr [172.21.17.207] (may be forged)) by harik.murex.com with ESMTP id j2GGJYbW010323; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:19:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from mxmail.murex.com (interscan.murex.fr [127.0.0.1]) by interscan.fr.murex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2GGeEf09700; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:40:21 +0100 Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com ([172.21.130.86]) by mxmail.murex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:29:53 +0100 From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Dan Nelson Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:29:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503151243.19596.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20050316030414.GA91721@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20050316030414.GA91721@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503161129.53065.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 16:29:54.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[625477A0:01C52A45] cc: usb@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass0 -- yes, daX -- no? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:40 -0000 > In the last episode (Mar 15), Mikhail Teterin said: > > I'm trying to access the file system on a usb memory key. When I > > insert it, however, kernel duly reports creation of umass0, but not > > the da1 (da0 is my ZIP drive). > > > > According to usbdevs -d, I have: > > > > addr 1: OHCI root hub, SiS > > uhub0 > > addr 2: Dell USB Memory Key, M-Systems > > umass0 > > You might have a device that's not known in umass's table. It looks > like it needs to know the protocol before it will create a da* device; > try editing /sys/dev/usb/usbdevs and adding a DISKONKEY3 entry (usbdevs > -dv should print the hex IDs you need), and copy one of the existing > DISKONKEY array entries in umass.c. Thanks, I'll try. This is disheartening, however... I was pretty sure, anything, that support USB Mass Storage would work "out of the box" :-( -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:40:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3662416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:40:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA05443D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:40:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2494820wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I0dJ5J6DpZORFV+oPdNUpKWJ9S0I9Zh70EgaRLwh0aqb7N86gcyiaRswjpStXXJQa7Aucf8Z34+TyM4grrDXK04kSz62Yio5PbvgeWTAVmeqloqZtXI4p+izcFW61JOIaA7eBYb4Tf7arRmsIYWxBBDail5HNFW4yXXiU1rlu90= Received: by 10.54.36.39 with SMTP id j39mr2148387wrj; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.50.43 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8292450b05031608406a9cace8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:40:26 -0600 From: CHris Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where does FreeBSD install the Qt directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:40:28 -0000 Trying to compile mysqlcc from source (ports didn't work) and it says install a version of Qt root@arwen [/usr/X11R6/include] > pkg_info | grep qt qt-3.3.3_2 Multiplatform C++ application framework root@arwen [/usr/X11R6/include] > So that should mean I have qt installed right? When I run ./configure script it errors with this: checking "if MySQL Version /usr/local/include/mysql is >= 4.0.0"... yes Qt is not installed. Please install QT 3.0.5 or later After googling and searching I find there is a configure option --with-qt=/path/to/qt but I can't find the path to qt, tried the /usr/X11R6/ include and bin paths still no luck. After yet more googling I can't seem to find the exact place qt is installed Any help greatly appreciated -- Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:45:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7745C16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:45:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CD743D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:45:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2GGj7J28261; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:45:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503161645.j2GGj7J28261@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Colin J. Raven) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:45:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050316154932.F2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> from "Colin J. Raven" at Mar 16, 2005 04:12:52 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: Lowell Gilbert cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:45:11 -0000 > > On Mar 16 at 09:47, Jerry McAllister commented: > > >> > >> "Colin J. Raven" writes: > >> > >>> On Mar 16 at 07:29, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: > >> > >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM > >>> > >>> Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the > >>> handbook and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the > >>> URL for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another > >>> thread on the list. > >>> > >>> Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. > >>> > >>> The issue is this: > >>> Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free > >>> and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. > >> > >> The same logic applies to some extent, though. > >> > >>> No way in creation this box should be swapping. > >> > >> I have noticed that FreeBSD 5.x is swapping out small amounts of > >> memory in situations (as near I can tell; it is quite hard to be sure > >> that the situation is really identical) where 4.x was not. I haven't > >> really tried to track down exactly what's going on, but it's always > >> been less than the text segment of any task in the system, so I was > >> pretty sure I wasn't seeing a problem. > > > > Swap space is also used for paging. If you are running through some > > big file or have processes that are live but not active, they can > > use up some page space. That space just stays there until it is > > needed otherwise. At least that is my understanding. > > With 4GB of RAM to chew on, I must say this surprises me more than a > bit. Recalling earlier in this thread, I said the box that this one > replaced had dual Athlon MP's (forget what speed) and 1GB of RAM. It > *never* swapped. It ran 4.10, then later upgraded to 5.3. > > We couldn't do 5.3 on this box because some controllers on the mobo > weren't (yet) supported, so we elected to install 4.11. Then we took > some jobs away from this server and reassigned 'em elsewhere (only > because of the delay in sourcing the replacement) . So - purely > theoretically - this server *should* have been sitting around less than > fully tasked. It is way more powerful (by significant orders of > magnitude) CPU-wise, has four times as much - and faster - memory, a > faster FSB, SATA instead of ATA drives, 4.11-and-not-the-bleeding-edge-choice-of-OS. > > What I'm saying is that (almost) any of these factors taken individually > should show a fairly relaxed, under-tasked errr..."happy" box. Take the > cumulative effect of the rather healthy upgrade and this box should be > sitting around picking its nose so to speak, and watching TV because it > has so little to do...hell we took work *away* from it. > > Except it swaps...sometimes as much as 2MB, mostly around 100 - 350K. That it uses some swap space does not mean it is not still very "undertasked" nor that it is getting close to being overloaded. It just uses that space in the course of its normal managing of processes. Someone else can much better tell you how that algorithm works. I'm just don't sweat it. It is normal and reasonable. ////jerry > > I bring this to the list only because of the utterly insane nature of > the situation. It's as if you replaced your 333MHZ 256MB/memory Dell > Dimension with a dual 3.0 Xeon/4GB HP Kayak (or equivalent) workstation, > then in the middle of reading email you suddenly hear it writing to > disk, check your taskmanager and discover to your absolute horror that > the thing is swapping...... > > We have no custom apps running here, only stuff that comes right out of > the ports tree. We're running email, DNS (BIND9)+PowerDNS, various A/V > and antispam packages, screen, pine, mc, apache, perl, php, mysql, > Courier IMAP, Postfix....absolutely nothing unusual that isn't run every > day in hundreds of thousands of production environments. The custom > stuff that *does* have the potential (but never did so on the old lower > powered box) to use up memory has been moved off to another server or > two. > > So there we have it....the mystery continues :) Thanks for your > ongoing interest and curiosity. > > Regards, > -Colin > -- > Colin J. Raven > Wed Mar 16 16:10:00 CET 2005 > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 16:53:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671AC16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:53:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (84.184.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch [195.186.184.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E34343D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2GGtFd5063012; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:55:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2GGtEIR063011; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:55:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:55:14 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316165514.GA62990@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Subject: Install squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:53:38 -0000 Hello I want to install squirrelmail from ports (cvsuped today). Make runs withou= t=20 problems but after make install the following error occurs: Build complete.=0D (It is safe to ignore warnings about tempnam and tmpnam).=0D =0D =3D=3D=3D> Installing for php4-4.3.10_2=0D =3D=3D=3D> php4-4.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found=0D =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list=0D =3D=3D=3D> Checking if lang/php4 already installed=0D Installing PHP SAPI module: apache2handler=0D /usr/local/share/apache2/build/instdso.sh SH_LIBTOOL=3D'/usr/local/share/ap= ache2/build/libtool' libphp4.la /usr/local/libexec/apache2=0D /usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool --mode=3Dinstall cp libphp4.la /usr/= local/libexec/apache2/=0D libtool: install: `libphp4.la' is not a valid libtool archive=0D Try `libtool --help --mode=3Dinstall' for more information.=0D apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=3D65536=0D =2E=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.10.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/ports/mail/squirrelmail.=0D pluto# exit$=08=1B[K exit=0D =0D Before I installed apache, sendmail, cyrus and mailscanner without problems= .=20 What I'm doing wrong? Any hints are welcome. =20 =20 --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:04:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6B316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C7843D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2GH9wEe003801 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:58 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA29494 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:48 +0300 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:48 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050316170448.GA29054@mccme.ru> References: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> <20050316160044.GS8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050316160044.GS8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=-0.095 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: Re: sshd behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:04:37 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:00:44AM -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: " " As another poster mentioned, the problem is likely related to DNS, and I " have experienced it as well. If you are using Privilege Separation, " then an sshd process will chroot itself into /var/empty before " performing authentication. /var/empty is itself usually empty. One " thing you can do is to make the dir /var/empty/etc and then drop a copy " of your /etc/hosts file into the newly created /var/empty/etc/ " directory. You might want to make sure that the hosts file contains a " mapping to the LAN machines which you want to ssh from. " " Keep in mind that /var/empty has the schg flag set, so you won't be able " to copy anything to it without disabling this first. See more at `man " chflags`. Try something like this: " " # chflags -R noschg /var/empty " # mkdir /var/empty/etc " # cp /etc/hosts /var/empty/etc " # chflags -R schg /var/empty " " This will likely clear up your problem. " " Nathan Thank you, Nathan. Can I put soft link into /var/empty/etc (this is crossdevice link, and I can't put hard link in it)? And does I realy need -R key in last command which you recomended? This mean that directory /var/empty/etc has schg flag too. Is it nessesery? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:16:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D904E16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.frii.com (phobos02.frii.net [216.17.128.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3E043D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwm@mavcom.com) Received: from blueanywhere.mavcom.com (jwm114.dsl.frii.net [216.17.174.114]) by mail.frii.com (FRII) with ESMTP id 516D41DF089 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:16:48 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050316101045.01fc3be8@localHost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:18:35 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: JM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2EE46C67 Subject: 5.3 & IBM PC Server 325 Type 8639-1RY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:56 -0000 I have installed 5.3 several times and I am using the built in nic an PCI AMD card. I can not seem to change the card to full-duplex using ifconfig or the built in sysinstall. I noticed there appeared to be other problems with IBM machines. My ? is this a recognized problem or something new? My server also has dual processors in it. Thanks for your time. JM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:18:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0130616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A607343D55 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:18:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from [69.34.135.207] (helo=kt.weeble.com) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DBc9x-0003cw-8k; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:17 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PaG/CVKFtStI4Bg962XpIuj4oM9MiG6TSyHG6dVbgxiSGtanYfmUCZWAxl0X/XHq; Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:12 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: CHris Rich Message-Id: <20050316121812.32ba0949.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <8292450b05031608406a9cace8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8292450b05031608406a9cace8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 96132b9c1759af1df21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c26099eab2dae3e5d7f84f6a8b7ee1a8824cd93caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.34.135.207 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where does FreeBSD install the Qt directory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:18:18 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:40:26 -0600 CHris Rich wrote: > Trying to compile mysqlcc from source (ports didn't work) and it says > install a version of Qt > > root@arwen [/usr/X11R6/include] > pkg_info | grep qt > qt-3.3.3_2 Multiplatform C++ application framework > root@arwen [/usr/X11R6/include] > > > So that should mean I have qt installed right? > > When I run ./configure script it errors with this: > > checking "if MySQL Version /usr/local/include/mysql is >= 4.0.0"... yes > Qt is not installed. Please install QT 3.0.5 or later > > After googling and searching I find there is a configure option > --with-qt=/path/to/qt > > but I can't find the path to qt, tried the /usr/X11R6/ include and bin > paths still no luck. After yet more googling I can't seem to find the > exact place qt is installed Since Qt seems to be installed, you can find all the files that it installed and where with: pkg_info -L qt-\*|less HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:27:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA1416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tut.by (speedy.tutby.com [195.209.41.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D46A43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from myst@tut.by) Received: from [213.184.242.153] (account myst@tut.by) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 26029650 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:27:19 +0200 From: Stas Myasnikov To: X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:27:19 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: What's difference between iconv and libiconv ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:27:23 -0000 Hello. Could anyone tell me what's difference between iconv and libiconv ports? Bye. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:38:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980CE16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:38:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B4143D48 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:38:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:38:17 -0600 Message-ID: <42386EFE.2080508@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:38:06 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JM References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050316101045.01fc3be8@localHost> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050316101045.01fc3be8@localHost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 17:38:17.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[F03DBA00:01C52A4E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 & IBM PC Server 325 Type 8639-1RY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:38:09 -0000 JM wrote: > I have installed 5.3 several times and I am using the built in > nic an PCI AMD card. > I can not seem to change the card to full-duplex using ifconfig > or the built in sysinstall. I noticed there appeared to be other > problems with IBM machines. > My ? is this a recognized problem or something new? > > My server also has dual processors in it. > > Thanks for your time. Hi, JM! Thanks for posting. I'm not sure that I'm the guy to help you, but I just wanted to point out that it might be helpful to give us the output of `uname -a` as suggested in the default /etc/motd (that you should see when you log in), and the relevant parts of `dmesg`, especially any mention of the PCI bus, drivers for these NICs and anything that looks like it might be an error. Also, if you want to check whether the "problem" has been reported by anyone else, there is a search interface on the website (www.freebsd.org) that might help you find any problem reports dealing with a specific driver or hardware device. I hope you get it working soon. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:43:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EBE16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:43:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A64443D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:43:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 59958 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2005 17:43:33 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=mlTt0EjHcX1BS6ngC2ZqzMphSHHBntnucbJygWfiBfKe3tC++0UD4bLaCTZyKWeVAm3XxHVBl2xFEuFHxBwY9Zm/Aiedjpf01P3KOGgciQomkrdSZFD8p32hg6GFUNmV/QPp5/6y/OMsFg7Ue/NitT4VGYGjwzkQRQQTveJaBU4= ; Message-ID: <20050316174333.59956.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:33 PST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:33 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:43:34 -0000 --- Boris Spirialitious wrote: > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9. > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > big problems? > > Thanks, > > Boris Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use Opteron here Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 17:49:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28B16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from d-137-145-236.bootp.Virginia.EDU (d-137-145-236.bootp.Virginia.EDU [137.54.145.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE8843D58 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrg8n@d-137-145-236.bootp.Virginia.EDU) Received: by d-137-145-236.bootp.Virginia.EDU (Postfix, from userid 501) id B8EE713F019; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:49:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:49:19 -0500 From: Mike Galvez To: JM Message-ID: <20050316174919.GA406@d-137-145-236.bootp.Virginia.EDU> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050316101045.01fc3be8@localHost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050316101045.01fc3be8@localHost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Operating-System: Darwin UNIX cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 & IBM PC Server 325 Type 8639-1RY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:14 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:18:35AM -0700, JM wrote: > I have installed 5.3 several times and I am using the built in > nic an PCI AMD card. To get the built-in NIC working on a 325, you will need to rebuild the kernel and comment out device pcn. You need device lnc, but pcn has precedence over lnc. While your at it, if your 325 is dual processor (most are) you can un- comment options SMP and apic. Instructions for recompiling your kernel can be found here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html HTH -Mike > I can not seem to change the card to full-duplex using ifconfig > or the built in sysinstall. I noticed there appeared to be other > problems with IBM machines. > My ? is this a recognized problem or something new? > > My server also has dual processors in it. > > Thanks for your time. > JM > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Michael Galvez http://www.people.virginia.edu/~mrg8n Information Technology Specialist University of Virginia USENIX Member From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:02:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB73916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:02:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ws1.cnweb.com (ws1.cnweb.com [207.91.1.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AEE43D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:02:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 1334 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 18:02:51 -0000 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO darryl) (24.225.23.245) by hultine.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 18:02:51 -0000 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:03:22 -0600 Message-ID: <005001c52a52$721dfd20$0701a8c0@darryl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: DHCP server performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:02:53 -0000 Greetings, I want to setup a DHCP server on my internal (private 192.168.1.X) network. I already have a Freebsd machine on the network as a webserver. Should I dedicate an entire machine to being a DHCP server ? Or will the load be minimal and I can put the DHCP server functionality on my webserver ? thanks in advance, Darryl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:08:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EF016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4026943D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:08:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2GI8n628624; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503161808.j2GI8n628624@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: darryl@osborne-ind.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <005001c52a52$721dfd20$0701a8c0@darryl> from "Darryl Hoar" at Mar 16, 2005 12:03:22 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:08:52 -0000 > > Greetings, > I want to setup a DHCP server on my internal (private 192.168.1.X) network. > I already have a Freebsd machine on the network as a webserver. > > Should I dedicate an entire machine to being a DHCP server ? Or will > the load be minimal and I can put the DHCP server functionality on my > webserver ? For just a private internal network, it would hardly notice the extra load. I assume you won't have thousands of machines coming in and out regularly, but only a few dozen at the most coming in a few times per day. No problem. Some of our sites have several hundred machines using DHCP, on a machine with web, DNS, majordomo, squid proxy, squirrel web based Email running. About the only thing that slows them down is spamassasin/procmail when lots of Email comes in. ////jerry > > thanks in advance, > Darryl > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:10:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE6A16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:10:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E119E43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:10:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146])j2GIA4Go016006; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2GIA1K0005399; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:10:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <005001c52a52$721dfd20$0701a8c0@darryl> References: <005001c52a52$721dfd20$0701a8c0@darryl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <215656bc2d58fb78ab5e129c86070678@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:01 -0500 To: darryl@osborne-ind.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:10:06 -0000 On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Darryl Hoar wrote: > Should I dedicate an entire machine to being a DHCP server ? Or will > the load be minimal and I can put the DHCP server functionality on my > webserver ? A DHCP server is very lightweight, and you can run one on a machine used for other tasks just fine. Unless your other machine is overloaded now, it probably won't notice a difference... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:13:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE85016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demon.noconname.org (19.Red-80-26-109.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.26.109.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D143D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:13:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jncastellano@noconname.org) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [192.168.0.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by demon.noconname.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9CE35B4 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:10:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42387745.4090303@noconname.org> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:13:25 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Nicol=E1s_Castellano?= Organization: No cON Name User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050909070100090901070008" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Bind + CHROOT + -u binduser fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jncastellano@noconname.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:13:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050909070100090901070008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I installed recently freebsd 5.3 from cd and i test the bind9 port of bind9-9.3.0 i installed correctly and i configure my own zones, but with a particular switches: rc.conf: named_enable="YES" # Run named, the DNS server (or NO). named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # path to named, if you want a different one. named_flags="-u bind" # Flags for named named_pidfile="/var/run/named/pid" # Must set this in named.conf as well named_chrootdir="/var/named" # Chroot directory (or "" not to auto-chroot it) named_chroot_autoupdate="YES" # Automatically install/update chrooted # components of named. See /etc/rc.d/named. named_symlink_enable="YES" # Symlink the chrooted pid file The result is, when i want to serve dns to address * I decoment the next line in named.conf: listen-on { *; }; 1. And then the syslog reports: named[262]: could not listen on UDP socket: permission denied named[262]: creating IPv4 interface rl0 failed; interface ignored named[262]: not listening on any interfaces If i change the next switch from rc.conf: named_flags="" Now i'm running named as root user.... whycannot run as bind user?? Thanks -- Jose Nicolas Castellano Presidente - Asociación No cON Name Tel: +34 616 727 675 E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org WWW: www.noconname.org --------------050909070100090901070008-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:18:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C68316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:18:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CCE343D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Mar 2005 18:18:04 -0000 Received: from pD9E28277.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) (217.226.130.119) by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 19:18:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> To: Boris Spirialitious In-Reply-To: <20050316174333.59956.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> References: <20050316174333.59956.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nYyl+EoN7oXSQzFuLVpY" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:18:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1110997082.513.3.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:18:07 -0000 --=-nYyl+EoN7oXSQzFuLVpY Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than 4GB). Why can you not use 5.3? On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > --- Boris Spirialitious > wrote: > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9.=20 > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > >=20 > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > big problems? > >=20 > > Thanks, > >=20 > > Boris >=20 > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > Opteron here >=20 > Boris --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-nYyl+EoN7oXSQzFuLVpY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCOHhaaRsDctJfzIERAi/eAJ9P9WuiuTiKH1c2DAtsT+c0nf0R3gCgktiz azHyXaBhACmKQ7OBREVISb8= =Uh2e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-nYyl+EoN7oXSQzFuLVpY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:40:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6104F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (mail.adventuras.no [194.63.250.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6440243D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no) Received: from mail.adventuras.no (seven [127.0.0.1]) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2GIe60b010997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:40:06 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.adventuras.no (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2GIe6OC010995; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:40:06 +0100 Received: from 213.236.228.129 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lars) by mail.adventuras.no with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:40:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52504.213.236.228.129.1110998406.squirrel@mail.adventuras.no> In-Reply-To: <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> References: <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:40:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Lars Kristiansen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Adventuras-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Adventuras: du kan filtrere etter AdvSpamScore over 5-10 X-Adventuras-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.183, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -3.30, AWL 0.72, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: lars+lister.freebsd@adventuras.no Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:40:31 -0000 > Hello, > When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: > ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& > /dev/null > cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or > directory > dmake: Error code 1, while making > './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > *** Error code 255 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. > > Does anyone know why this might happen or what I can do to fix it? Me too... But there is binary packages available from openoffice.org. http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ You can download one of these and install with "pkg_add " I did not manage to find suitable package from the ports, somehow. -- Hilsen Lars > Thanks > > /Brian > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:54:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-6.estpak.ee (mail.hot.ee [194.126.101.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F97C43D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:54:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.164.183] (217-159-164-183-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.164.183]) by MXR-6.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC406146A52 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:54:51 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:53:05 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at hot.ee Subject: Which ports use C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:54:55 -0000 Hello! I'm planning to upgrade one of my servers from RELENG_5_2 to RELENG_5_3. In my reading of /usr/src/UPDATING I have reached the entry of 20040728 which says that all programs written in C++ need to be recompiled. Ugh. Is there an easy way to find out whether particular port uses C++? I had a quick look at bsd.port.mk but didn't see anything. The ports I'm most interested in are apache2, mod_php4, mysql40-server, postfix and cyrus-imapd. Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports anyway? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 19:57:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2671216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:57:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB2843D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2GJvFVU004923; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:15 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Stas Myasnikov Message-ID: <20050316195715.GB27170@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's difference between iconv and libiconv ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:57:17 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 16), Stas Myasnikov said: > Could anyone tell me what's difference between iconv and libiconv > ports? iconv is a BSD-licensed charset conversion library (doesn't seem to have been unpdated since 2000), libiconv is the GNU one that most programs expect. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:01:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60E416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:01:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE98143D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 88083 invoked by uid 1008); 16 Mar 2005 20:01:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 20:01:19 -0000 Received: from 68.165.89.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net); by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:01:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54481.68.165.89.73.1111003279.squirrel@68.165.89.73> In-Reply-To: <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:01:07 -0000 where else can i ask about this? i tried bsdforums but still total silence there too... > >> Did you check top to see if you even use swap? > > yea. very small amount. > Swap: 2032M Total, 624K Used, 2031M Free > >> I never use swap with >> 512MB on my desktop. Read man tuning, around byte 32372. > > i did a few times. don't remember which byte was it thought... > >> Try netstat >> -m. > > i did. here: > this was when i send this message originally: > # netstat -m > 6138/6832/26624 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 6137 mbufs allocated to data > 1 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > 6092/6656/6656 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 15020 Kbytes allocated to network (75% of mb_map in use) > 11125 requests for memory denied > 1 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > =================================== > > this is now: > > netstat -m > 349/6832/26624 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 348 mbufs allocated to data > 1 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > 346/6656/6656 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 15020 Kbytes allocated to network (75% of mb_map in use) > 11125 requests for memory denied > 1 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > huge difference. so i think about 260 lines of netstat -p tcp output like: > > tcp4 0 33580 server.http c68.112.166.214..3307 > FIN_WAIT_1 > > has to do with all these 6000 clusters. but i'm not sure how. DOS may be?! > they are all from the same client ip and all of them have much higher > number for send then received Q's. what does the state FIN_WAIT_1 mean? > waiting to finish? if so - why it didn't do that for hours and hours. my > web server keeps connections alive for 10 sec. there isn't much else that > uses tcp on that machine. the webserver was inaccessile for about 5-10 > min. so my first thought was DOS... "11125 requests for memory denied" > made it look like it was a DOS... > > maybe somebody can explain the relation if any. it'll be appreciated... > > > thanks.... > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:04:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.responsenetworking.com (gdew.securesites.net [198.173.254.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE1743D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gdew@responsenetworking.com) Received: from MSNJ01 (207-237-20-164.c3-0.80w-ubr9.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com [207.237.20.164]) (authenticated bits=0)j2GK4tTj038682 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:56 GMT (envelope-from gdew@responsenetworking.com) From: "George Dew" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: /bin/sh, php & mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gdew@responsenetworking.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:04:58 -0000 After "upgrading" to BSD 4.11, I've been having all sorts of problems. Please help! - The shell no longer supports the "up" cursor key, which gives a history of commands that you type. - Also, mod_php no longer supports mySQL. Does anyone know what's going on here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:09:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id B717416A4CF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:49 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Toomas Aas Message-ID: <20050316200949.GF91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which ports use C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:49 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hello! > > I'm planning to upgrade one of my servers from RELENG_5_2 to RELENG_5_3. > In my reading of /usr/src/UPDATING I have reached the entry of 20040728 > which says that all programs written in C++ need to be recompiled. Ugh. > > Is there an easy way to find out whether particular port uses C++? I had > a quick look at bsd.port.mk but didn't see anything. Not easily. You can look at the symbol table of every file on the system associated to ports and grep for some common C++ symbols, but this is more trouble than it's worth. > The ports I'm most interested in are apache2, mod_php4, mysql40-server, > postfix and cyrus-imapd. > > Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports > anyway? That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and compile new software against them on 5.3. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:12:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDE916A4CE; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2F343D2D; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp@uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2] (may be forged)) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2GKC9P5084058; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:12:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost) j2GKC98C084057; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:12:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) j2GJEn2U096373; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:14:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2GJD3Lv096274; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:13:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2GJD37s096273; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:13:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:13:03 +0100 From: Peter Much To: Palle Girgensohn Message-ID: <20050316191303.GA87431@gate.oper.dinoex.org> References: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <9C05F10029508113D296723A@rambutan.pingpong.net> <20050315185224.GA83998@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <20050316104331.GA56139@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <012F732A0FD93F1880662177@rambutan.pingpong.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012F732A0FD93F1880662177@rambutan.pingpong.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 194.45.71.2; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de;) cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org cc: brett_schwarz@yahoo.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:12:44 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:35:16PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: ! ! --On onsdag, mars 16, 2005 11.43.31 +0100 Peter Much ! wrote: ! ! >! So, you're saying that pctclsh *can* access, but pgaccess *cannot*? ! >Odd... ! I would expect they'd both use the same lib to connect, no? ! >I'll have to ! > ! >They use the same libraries, yes. But Tcl interpreter seem to need more ! >advice on where to find sub-functions in other libraries. It looks ! >like this: ! > ! >pgtclsh -finds-> libpgtcl.so -finds-> libpq.so -finds-> libkrb5.so ! >pgaccess -loads-> libpgtcl.so -finds-> libpq.so -fails-> libkrb5.so ! ! Uh, OK. I'm not qualified enough with linkers to answer this, I'm afraid. ! Did you try the pgsql-interfaces mailing list? Oh well, same with me. I sent a copy of one of my reports to that list, yes. But only got feedback that it will be evaluated by moderator, as I am not signed on that list. I'm actually no professional psql user - the database is just a small part of my installation, mainly logging the lowlevel error counts from my exabyte drives and providing reports about tape wearout. And the kerberos is just there for fun, as a reference installation. Nevertheless, I would think this is not a matter for the postgres community. Because this would happen the same way with any other application that provides Tcl support and kerberos support (or maybe also with other components of the system, if they are used from Tcl). So it seems either a Tcl problem or a linker/loader problem. Which, I cannot say - maybe both. ! >And then I found that it is enough to place into libpq.so the explicit ! >references to libkrb5 and the other kerberos libs. That is what the ! >"readelf -a" output in my other mail shows. ! ! sounds like a better solution, yes... Shouldn't they always be there? ! Sounds like a bug to me? Thats the question. I just did a little more investigation (like reading manpages) and found out _WHY_ it does work for pgtclsh but not for pgaccess. There is a command "ldd" that shows nested library dependencies for any program. For pgtclsh it shows all the kerberos libs: bash-3.00# ldd /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh: libpgtcl.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so.2 (0x28075000) libpq.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x2807d000) libtcl84.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl84.so.1 (0x28097000) libm.so.3 => /lib/libm.so.3 (0x28135000) libkrb5.so.7 => /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.7 (0x2814f000) libasn1.so.7 => /usr/lib/libasn1.so.7 (0x28186000) libcrypto.so.3 => /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x281a6000) libroken.so.7 => /usr/lib/libroken.so.7 (0x2829b000) libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x282a9000) libcom_err.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x282c1000) libz.so.2 => /lib/libz.so.2 (0x282c3000) libreadline.so.5 => /lib/libreadline.so.5 (0x282d3000) libutil.so.4 => /lib/libutil.so.4 (0x282ff000) libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x2830b000) libintl.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 (0x283e4000) libssl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x283ed000) libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x2841b000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x2845a000) But for libpgtcl.so (this is the first elf binary that pgaccess gets to see) it does not show these kerberos libraries (I use the old libpq.so here, not the one that I have modified): bash-3.00# ldd /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so: libpq.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x2815a000) libtcl84.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl84.so.1 (0x28174000) libm.so.3 => /lib/libm.so.3 (0x28212000) libintl.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 (0x2822c000) libssl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x28235000) libcrypto.so.3 => /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x28263000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28358000) Then the explanation became simple: these kerberos libraries get just LITERALLY LISTED WITHIN THE pgtclsh BINARY! And this is an impossible method for a Tcl script. bash-3.00# readelf -d /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh | grep krb5 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libkrb5.so.7] So now we have a full explanation for the behaviour, but not really a solution. Instead, this looks like a fundamental question about how to load nested elf sharedlibs from interpreter languages. >From my technical viewpoint, the only solution that makes sense would be: every shared library must reference all other shared libraries from which it uses functions. The shared library cannot rely on the executable to do this job, because the executable may be an interpreter script, which neither is able to do this nor would it want to know them all. >From this viewpoint, the linker command that creates libpq.so is defective. So You were right and its a problem for the postgresql developers. But as I am not competent with shared libraries and development systems and such stuff, I would very much appreciate the opinion of somebody with profound knowledge of these things. And anyway, perl should have similar problems. Ok, lets see - which nice mailinglists do we crosspost today? I go with questions and ports, and add hackers. I think we're now deep enough in the rabbithole for them. ;-) And psql-interfaces. PMc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ED316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1194A43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2GKIxsh009097; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2GKIvlV002204; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54481.68.165.89.73.1111003279.squirrel@68.165.89.73> References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <54481.68.165.89.73.1111003279.squirrel@68.165.89.73> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8ba66af9dfd749cff4ec033004d93fdc@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:18:56 -0500 To: kalin mintchev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:01 -0000 On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:01 PM, kalin mintchev wrote: >> 11125 requests for memory denied >> 1 requests for memory delayed >> 0 calls to protocol drain routines You were exceeding the amount of socket buffer memory available there. >> huge difference. so i think about 260 lines of netstat -p tcp output >> like: >> >> tcp4 0 33580 server.http c68.112.166.214..3307 >> FIN_WAIT_1 >> >> has to do with all these 6000 clusters. but i'm not sure how. DOS may >> be?! >> they are all from the same client ip and all of them have much higher >> number for send then received Q's. what does the state FIN_WAIT_1 >> mean? >> waiting to finish? if so - why it didn't do that for hours and hours. >> my >> web server keeps connections alive for 10 sec. there isn't much else >> that >> uses tcp on that machine. the webserver was inaccessile for about 5-10 >> min. so my first thought was DOS... "11125 requests for memory denied" >> made it look like it was a DOS... >> >> maybe somebody can explain the relation if any. it'll be >> appreciated... FIN_WAIT_1 means that one side of the TCP conversation sent a FIN, and the other side (yours) wants to flush the queue of unsent data and will then close the connection. It's not clear why this isn't working, and there is a timer which gets started which ought to close the connection after 10 minutes or so if no data can be sent. Perhaps the other side is playing games? If you do a tcpdump against that client, are you seeing responses with a 0 window size? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:19:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5563D43D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so227321rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:19:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pcrQ15rgJlVH92qhPARtr2WIMWx/xdvLniAH234BtepoCgo9Mli5OZ/+9VnnXAhmJkvZUbh5FUixRfRAOx3uhfhn2S9IF5auJHKlGs+69RhWJ5BGOT2cbYdBNZwATH5m9LKFgCBJrmtmrcgmnX6XrR6MaL1YXW0+yooNrK3xr9M= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr629653rng; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:19:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:19:45 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Harry Reid In-Reply-To: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000001c52977$f3343860$6401a8c0@ws3> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: accounting package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:19:46 -0000 I have had good luck with sql-ledger. --Nick On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:30:06 -0500, Harry Reid wrote: > I am looking for a client server accounting package for industrial equipment > dealers and distributors that will handle serialized whole good inventory, > parts inventory and a service shop. Text based Unix or Linux platform is > fine. Any recommendations? > > HR > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:28:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E07D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:28:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5174F43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:28:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so278109rna for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:28:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=O5mIRpnGKEYRaTnxnUitDQJG2s2s5Xr5FLBq58+3ogM4DHXyl7ICgrFEEgoJxQuqu0E5X7E/8TcbI+vty3dZ5AX7KRtMBtnZ4EZuxpkEVyy83/gq8hiYPrQxjD7pE3b4DIKA/RYQ87XUkrYAVgEr7SKf7tgDEfQwoetXjCIp0AI= Received: by 10.38.151.33 with SMTP id y33mr840780rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:28:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:28:04 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Jean Lagarde In-Reply-To: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:28:06 -0000 I would have to agree that it is a HW issue. The RAM itself may be ok, but may have issues with other HW components in your system. --Nick On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:10:27 -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: > I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I > might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. > > FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) > > The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of RAM. > The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the 512MB stick > in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at specific times, > for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to make OpenOffice > (always reboots at "Extracting for openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see > any panic in the messages log, the system just silently reboots. > > I initially installed FreeBSD with only the 512MB stick in. > > The memory itself seems fine; memtest86 detects no errors. > > At boot time all the memory is detected: > > real memory = 1610547200 (1535 MB) > avail memory = 1568432128 (1495 MB) > > Running "memtest all" only seems to find 512MB to use. It evidently > makes no assumption about how much memory is there, starting by trying > to malloc 4GB and reducing the amount gradually until it finally > successfully mallocs 512 MB and eventually manages to lock 413 MB > (failed due to "insufficient resources" above that). The tests on the > 413 MB do pass. > > I have rebuilt the kernel with VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX=419430400 as suggested > in the FAQ. No change. > > Would setting MAXMEM to 1572864 help? I am not sure since the correct > amount is reported by FreeBSD at boot, and right now trying to make the > kernel with that option seems to be another case that reboots the > machine (i.e. the make process itself reboots the machine) so I have not > tried it yet (guess I would have to remove the 1GB stick to make the > new kernel and then put it back to try it out). > > Thank you for any help. > > ============ > dmesg > ============ > > FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 13 20:01:36 PST 2005 > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/KERNEL_JEAN > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz (2205.01-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf24 Stepping = 4 > > Features=0x3febfbff MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM> > real memory = 1610547200 (1535 MB) > avail memory = 1568432128 (1495 MB) > mptable_probe: MP Config Table has bad signature: .\M^K\M-@ > npx0: [FAST] > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > acpi_button0: on acpi0 > acpi_button1: on acpi0 > pcib0: port > 0x1080-0x10ff,0x1000-0x107f,0x480-0x48f,0xcf8 > -0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device > 0.0 on pc > i0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > ohci0: mem 0xe7000000-0xe7000fff irq 5 at > device 2.2 o > n pci0 > ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered > ohci1: mem 0xe7001000-0xe7001fff irq 12 at > device 2.3 > on pci0 > ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb1: on ohci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered > atapci0: port > 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6 > ,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0 > ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 > ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 > sis0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem > 0xe7002000-0xe7002fff irq 11 > at device 3.0 on pci0 > miibus0: on sis0 > ukphy0: on miibus0 > ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > sis0: Ethernet address: 00:50:2c:04:6c:0b > pci0: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) > pci0: at device 14.0 (no driver attached) > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on > acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > ppc0: parallel port not found. > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2205013308 Hz quality 800 > Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec > ad0: 39216MB [79677/16/63] at > ata0-master UD > MA100 > acd0: DVDROM at > ata0-slave UDMA > 66 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:32:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2916A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:32:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 847E343D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 2240 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2005 20:32:50 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 20:32:50 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 92E5064B7; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:32:49 -0600 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050316203249.GA43323@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Makefiles compatible with both BSD and GNU make? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:32:52 -0000 I got the silly idea that I want one Makefile to work with both BSD and GNU makes. Silly me. Fairly simple Makefiles work but when expanding my Makefile to include .depend generation I get tripped. BSD make automagically uses .depend if one is found. GNU make requires the file be named in an include, but the syntax of GNU include is different than BSD. As is the syntax of conditional statements. Yes, I could simply use gmake on FreeBSD and make under cygwin, but where is the fun in that? Not only no fun but nothing to be learned. Is there a way I can write the include of .depend that GNU make will use and at the same time BSD make will either ignore or do the same as GNU? Meanwhile I'm just accepting the fact on cygwin the only sure way to update is "make clean" before "make". -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:33:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A1F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:33:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962B843D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:33:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so247205rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:33:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=eZDum2P5yCPbZQDJtoAnQFAwYvjix4zmxSlOE2dqLaCS9ueYU5J3yeT9gYVxvlKevR6jRZQiL8xCd+vzVcAnrVQwEah5JYHUcLV2NVcmtHhRdWQrttJHXuNQJnuZVIUKPGUhAU1e3zd2Q0IOFydsLkkGCXgvP8w0Bo3jH7Wt78s= Received: by 10.38.9.58 with SMTP id 58mr848777rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:33:49 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Perttu Laine In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade 5.3 to 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:33:51 -0000 I believe that this would do it, but I don't think they have created the 5_4 branch yet. Of course I haven't looked today :) Please keep in mind that the 5_4 final is still a few weeks out. --Nick On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:29:35 +0200, Perttu Laine wrote: > Hi! > > If I want upgrade 5.3 to 5.4 is this all I need to do: > > 1. change RELENG_5_3 to 5_4 and cvsup sources. > 2. make buildworld > 3. make buildkernel KERNCONF= > 4. make installkernel KERNCONF= > 5. reboot to single user > 6. mergemaster -p > 7. make installworld > 8. mergemaster > 9. reboot > > -- > kpn @ IRCnet > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:45:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A26716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:45:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BDE43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:45:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DBfO8-000AxY-GW; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:45:08 -0800 Message-ID: <42389AD3.3020504@ccstores.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:45:07 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> In-Reply-To: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:45:09 -0000 Jean Lagarde wrote: > I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I > might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. > > FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) > > The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of RAM. > The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the 512MB stick > in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at specific times, > for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to make OpenOffice > (always reboots at "Extracting for openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see > any panic in the messages log, the system just silently reboots. > > I initially installed FreeBSD with only the 512MB stick in. > > The memory itself seems fine; memtest86 detects no errors. > I too have a similar problem. I have 7 identical systems. all with identical MoBo's SCSI hard drives and RAM. One machine reboots frequently with 5.3 where with 4.9 it "never" rebooted. 6 machines are fine. 1 reboots. I changed memory sticks. (which incidentally always pass an extensive memory test). I even changed the power supply on the computer. The last thing I am going to change is the MoBo. Perhaps it has some timing issue discovered only with 5.3. Luckily when I needed 7 MoBos, I purchased 8 and have a spare. This is mystery, because as I said, 4.9 worked fine on this machine. regards, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0449E16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B6C43D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2GKoHi8040793; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:50:17 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: David Kelly Message-ID: <20050316205017.GC27170@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050316203249.GA43323@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316203249.GA43323@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makefiles compatible with both BSD and GNU make? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:50:19 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 16), David Kelly said: > I got the silly idea that I want one Makefile to work with both BSD > and GNU makes. Silly me. Fairly simple Makefiles work but when > expanding my Makefile to include .depend generation I get tripped. > > BSD make automagically uses .depend if one is found. GNU make > requires the file be named in an include, but the syntax of GNU > include is different than BSD. As is the syntax of conditional > statements. FreeBSD's make understands the gnu-style include syntax with no leading dot, even though it's undocumented (grep for SYSVINCLUDE in the source). Automake is the usual way around compatibility issues; it has its own conditional syntax that it expands out when it generates the Makefile, and will create the appropriate dependency lines. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:51:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 99AA916A4CF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:51:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:51:22 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jim Pazarena Message-ID: <20050316205122.GH91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> <42389AD3.3020504@ccstores.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42389AD3.3020504@ccstores.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:51:22 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:45:07PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I too have a similar problem. I have 7 identical systems. all with > identical MoBo's SCSI hard drives and RAM. > > One machine reboots frequently with 5.3 where with 4.9 it "never" > rebooted. 6 machines are fine. 1 reboots. I changed memory sticks. > (which incidentally always pass an extensive memory test). I even > changed the power supply on the computer. > > The last thing I am going to change is the MoBo. Perhaps it has some > timing issue discovered only with 5.3. Luckily when I needed 7 MoBos, > I purchased 8 and have a spare. > > This is mystery, because as I said, 4.9 worked fine on this machine. As you noted, 5.3 uses the hardware differently. For example, it uses ACPI, which is sometimes buggy as implemented by the mobo manufacturer. Try looking for an updated BIOS, disabling ACPI in the freebsd boot screen, etc. Also make sure you're truly seeing a spontaneous reboot and not a panic. Sometimes users are confused about the difference (when FreeBSD panics it tells you as such on the console). Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 20:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFBB16A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate1.dslextreme.com (mailgate1.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241BE43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmlewis@dslextreme.com) Received: from www.dslextreme.com (unknown [192.168.7.122]) by mailgate1.dslextreme.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 58E6B6303ED for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:53:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:56:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Joshua Lewis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: DSL Extreme Webmail (www.dslextreme.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-DSLExtreme-MailGate-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DSLExtreme-MailGate: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jmlewis@dslextreme.com Subject: FTP server on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:56:14 -0000 I was trying to setup an FTP server last night on my 5.3 box. I was using the handbook and was instructed to make a new user ftp. So that worked fine and I was able to upload to ftp's home dirrectory but wanted to know if I can safley delete the .* files in his home dirrectory. I was also curious, if I change the permissions on /home/ftp to 755 then people will be able to read but not write to the dirrectory (do they need x permission to download a file?). But how do I make it so everyone can read but only certain users can write. My goal would to not use local accounts but pull usernames and passwords from a MySQL database. I would rather not transfer the username and password in clear text. Any thoughts or how toos I can follow? Thank you, Joshua Lewis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F399116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4443D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:10:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.wirth@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so281339rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DMCA4KvJGBwFlRW9PZSsxcbdgCXUc6ti5KNgZatjnFszvQsljDVuaz+UBqYNx1I2lAh02x+PbH8dEf38uaCq6DCqsreqlSpoIB8V61o3/Yo/lxGcbx86WNT6QWDoxfAMoCpF4TfngfnBT4kA5QeTAzD66VoiWvVW6P4H1hSaJFU= Received: by 10.38.99.16 with SMTP id w16mr929687rnb; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.181.68 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2cf69205031613107a3ba70c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:10:38 -0500 From: Jeff Wirth To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com In-Reply-To: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP server on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff Wirth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:10:40 -0000 > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:56:12 -0800 (PST), Joshua Lewis wrote: > I was trying to setup an FTP server last night on my 5.3 box. I was using > the handbook and was instructed to make a new user ftp. So that worked > fine and I was able to upload to ftp's home dirrectory but wanted to know > if I can safley delete the .* files in his home dirrectory. > > I was also curious, if I change the permissions on /home/ftp to 755 then > people will be able to read but not write to the dirrectory (do they need > x permission to download a file?). But how do I make it so everyone can > read but only certain users can write. My goal would to not use local > accounts but pull usernames and passwords from a MySQL database. I would > rather not transfer the username and password in clear text. > > Any thoughts or how toos I can follow? > My first thought was that if you are concerned about the integrity of your passwords during transport, you may want to look into something other then FTP. SFTP or SCP for example ( and I'm sure there are a list of other options...) http://www.openssh.org/ http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sftp http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=scp -jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:29:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028A016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:29:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FD4543D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:29:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 20822 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2005 21:29:37 -0000 Received: from batv-01-021.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.22) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 21:29:37 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316152542.02975480@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:28:46 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050316165514.GA62990@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: Martin Schweizer Subject: Re: Install squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:29:41 -0000 Please see comments below: At 10:55 3/16/2005, Martin Schweizer wrote: >Hello > >I want to install squirrelmail from ports (cvsuped today). Make runs= without=20 >problems but after make install the following error occurs: > >Build complete. >(It is safe to ignore warnings about tempnam and tmpnam). > >=3D=3D=3D> Installing for php4-4.3.10_2 >=3D=3D=3D> php4-4.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found >=3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list >=3D=3D=3D> Checking if lang/php4 already installed >Installing PHP SAPI module: apache2handler >/usr/local/share/apache2/build/instdso.sh=20 >SH_LIBTOOL=3D'/usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool' libphp4.la=20 >/usr/local/libexec/apache2 >/usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool --mode=3Dinstall cp libphp4.la=20 >/usr/local/libexec/apache2/ >libtool: install: `libphp4.la' is not a valid libtool archive >Try `libtool --help --mode=3Dinstall' for more information. It looks like libtool install is failing. Here is a procedure for troubleshooting installation failures: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Tips-Hints-Tricks/make-install-fails-di= es-quits/ http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dmake+install+fails+on+FreeBSD >apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=3D65536 >. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.10. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/squirrelmail. >pluto# exit$=1B[K exit > > >Before I installed apache, sendmail, cyrus and mailscanner without= problems.=20 >What I'm doing wrong? Any hints are welcome. >=20 >=20 >--=20 > >Regards > >Martin Schweizer > > >PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon >Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; >public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 >fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:30:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EB116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:30:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6628C43D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153])j2GLULAP004946; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2GLUKeZ007795; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:30:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> References: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5cbd94c447738b05542ca4418eec87b3@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:19 -0500 To: jmlewis@dslextreme.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP server on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:30:25 -0000 On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Joshua Lewis wrote: > I was trying to setup an FTP server last night on my 5.3 box. I was > using > the handbook and was instructed to make a new user ftp. So that worked > fine and I was able to upload to ftp's home dirrectory but wanted to > know > if I can safley delete the .* files in his home dirrectory. Yes. > I was also curious, if I change the permissions on /home/ftp to 755 > then > people will be able to read but not write to the dirrectory (do they > need > x permission to download a file?). But how do I make it so everyone can > read but only certain users can write. My goal would to not use local > accounts but pull usernames and passwords from a MySQL database. I > would > rather not transfer the username and password in clear text. If you want to permit certain users to write, the normal way of doing so is to create standard Unix user accounts for them, and use a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin. However, if you care about account security, do not use FTP. SSH and scp are the way to go.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:31:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CFF16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:31:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EA643D46 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so267161rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:31:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UmSTfpRIrHgyO3B7NhxeNWRNzF7EKy6G1GhfiRcDiuKJVXH7uCCY+VlupU+nJ0h0iFpiBJxIla2ujQlMJZKjgk6IUwccqNt3HjLEWemtIbc7B1Lhj0Zxdccq5HDCJZcIEB0w9Emd6osmXAGikIkVkwB0RJ5pMBfywWleem5klwU= Received: by 10.38.9.58 with SMTP id 58mr899539rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:31:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:31:55 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Andrea Venturoli , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42376647.4030008@netfence.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42376647.4030008@netfence.it> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:31:59 -0000 Andrea, I have started testing with gstripe and have had good results to this point. I'm still a little unclear about how to make my stripe persistent after a reboot? My server consists of three drives. A 40GB drive that has the operating system and two 200Gb drives that I'm using for the raid 0 volume. I was also curious about a couple of other things. - There is a .snap directory on the volume. Is this used by gstripe? - I changed the mode to fast and didn't notice any difference in my basic performance testing. Is there any advantage of using fast? - I used newfs -O 2 to create a UFS2 file system on the volume. Is this treated like any other UFS2 volume that can utilize fsck, etc? - How resiliant is this volume if the system were to crash? --Thanks! Nick On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:48:39 +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Nick Pavlica wrote: > > All, > > I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two > > identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents > > I noticed that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and > > Gvinum. Which utility should be used? It's my understanding that > > Gvinum is the most current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the > > hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum or both? > > I'd reccomend you none of them; look here for detailed reasons: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/. > In brief, I've experienced severe panics with vinum after an upgrade > from 5.2.1 to 5.3 and gvinum is marked as alpha software and poorly > documented. > I'm quite happy with gmirror now, which the tutorial above describes. > You would use gstripe instead. > > bye > av. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391AC16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (84.184.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch [195.186.184.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E1843D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2GLaAbp064287; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:36:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2GLaAIP064286; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:36:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:36:09 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20050316213609.GG58184@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: "W. D." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Schweizer References: <20050316165514.GA62990@saturn.pcs.ms> <5.1.0.14.2.20050316152542.02975480@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316152542.02975480@209.152.117.178> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Martin Schweizer Subject: Re: Install squirrelmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:34:29 -0000 --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. I will try it asap. Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:28:46PM -0600 W. D. schrieb: > Please see comments below: >=20 > At 10:55 3/16/2005, Martin Schweizer wrote: > >Hello > > > >I want to install squirrelmail from ports (cvsuped today). Make runs wit= hout=20 > >problems but after make install the following error occurs: > > > >Build complete. >=20 > >(It is safe to ignore warnings about tempnam and tmpnam). >=20 > > >=20 > >=3D=3D=3D> Installing for php4-4.3.10_2 >=20 > >=3D=3D=3D> php4-4.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/apxs - found >=20 > >=3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list >=20 > >=3D=3D=3D> Checking if lang/php4 already installed >=20 > >Installing PHP SAPI module: apache2handler >=20 > >/usr/local/share/apache2/build/instdso.sh=20 > >SH_LIBTOOL=3D'/usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool' libphp4.la=20 > >/usr/local/libexec/apache2 >=20 > >/usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool --mode=3Dinstall cp libphp4.la=20 > >/usr/local/libexec/apache2/ >=20 > >libtool: install: `libphp4.la' is not a valid libtool archive >=20 > >Try `libtool --help --mode=3Dinstall' for more information. >=20 >=20 > It looks like libtool install is failing. >=20 > Here is a procedure for troubleshooting installation > failures: > http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Tips-Hints-Tricks/make-install-fails= -dies-quits/ > http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dmake+install+fails+on+FreeBSD >=20 >=20 >=20 > >apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=3D65536 >=20 > >. >=20 > >*** Error code 1 >=20 > > >=20 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.10. >=20 > >*** Error code 1 >=20 > > >=20 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4. >=20 > >*** Error code 1 >=20 > > >=20 > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/squirrelmail. >=20 > >pluto# exit$=1B[K exit >=20 > > >=20 > > > >Before I installed apache, sendmail, cyrus and mailscanner without probl= ems.=20 > >What I'm doing wrong? Any hints are welcome. > >=20 > >=20 > >--=20 > > > >Regards > > > >Martin Schweizer > > > > > >PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > >Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > >public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 > >fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >=20 > Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start= -page/ > $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ >=20 --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCOKbJwa4WkdMP0jkRAnSCAKDIcArTqKvjoP6nIqt6MuDzW0ACkQCfYoue PKoJd4cWCH7I1+DDaZhOLrI= =znKT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:44:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D7B16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:44:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFCF43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 22728 invoked by uid 1008); 16 Mar 2005 21:44:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 21:44:14 -0000 Received: from 68.165.89.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net); by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:44:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54755.68.165.89.73.1111009454.squirrel@68.165.89.73> In-Reply-To: <8ba66af9dfd749cff4ec033004d93fdc@mac.com> References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <54481.68.165.89.73.1111003279.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <8ba66af9dfd749cff4ec033004d93fdc@mac.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:44:14 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Charles Swiger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:44:01 -0000 thanks Charles... > > You were exceeding the amount of socket buffer memory available there. i'm aware of that. the question is why? >>> huge difference. so i think about 260 lines of netstat -p tcp output >>> like: >>> >>> tcp4 0 33580 server.http c68.112.166.214..3307 >>> FIN_WAIT_1 >>> >>> has to do with all these 6000 clusters. but i'm not sure how. DOS may >>> be?! >>> they are all from the same client ip and all of them have much higher >>> number for send then received Q's. what does the state FIN_WAIT_1 >>> mean? >>> waiting to finish? if so - why it didn't do that for hours and hours. >>> my >>> web server keeps connections alive for 10 sec. there isn't much else >>> that >>> uses tcp on that machine. the webserver was inaccessile for about 5-10 >>> min. so my first thought was DOS... "11125 requests for memory denied" >>> made it look like it was a DOS... >>> >>> maybe somebody can explain the relation if any. it'll be >>> appreciated... > > FIN_WAIT_1 means that one side of the TCP conversation sent a FIN, and > the other side (yours) wants to flush the queue of unsent data and will > then close the connection. It's not clear why this isn't working, and > there is a timer which gets started which ought to close the connection > after 10 minutes or so if no data can be sent. well that was what i was suggesting in my post but the sever is set to cut inactive connections after 10 seconds - not minutes. is there any other timer i'm missing here? > > Perhaps the other side is playing games? If you do a tcpdump against > that client, are you seeing responses with a 0 window size? that happened yesterday - 1/2 hr ago. right now it is fine... quite.... i tought DOS. it hasn't happened before. right now using only 250-300 clusters which is the normal... thanks... > > -- > -Chuck > > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:45:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A32416A4D3 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:45:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E2D43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE42D34D453; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9712234D437; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:45:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4238A904.6040801@cloudview.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:45:40 -0800 From: John Pettitt Organization: CloudView Photographic User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Pavlica References: <42376647.4030008@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-AV-Checked: by skipjack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:45:42 -0000 Nick Pavlica wrote: >Andrea, > I have started testing with gstripe and have had good results to >this point. I'm still a little unclear about how to make my stripe >persistent after a reboot? My server consists of three drives. A >40GB drive that has the operating system and two 200Gb drives that I'm >using for the raid 0 volume. I was also curious about a couple of >other things. > > If you made the stripe using something like gstripe label -v -s somenumber data /dev/mumble1 /dev/mumble2 then it will be persistent subject to gstripe being loaded in the kernel - use gstripe load or build a kernel with "options GEOM_STRIPE " You see something like GEOM_STRIPE: Device data2 created (id=889964967). GEOM_STRIPE: Disk da0 attached to data2. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da1 is ufs/data. GEOM_STRIPE: Disk da2 attached to data2. GEOM_STRIPE: Device data2 activated. In the boot messages (device names will vary - I'm using two 300GB USB drives) >- There is a .snap directory on the volume. Is this used by gstripe? > > Nope that's a ufs2 thing >- I used newfs -O 2 to create a UFS2 file system on the volume. Is >this treated like any other UFS2 volume that can utilize fsck, etc? > > Yes - although you might want to specify a block size as the defaults tend to assume lots of small files which is not always the case for very large stripe sets. >- How resiliant is this volume if the system were to crash? > > The same as any other volume except that you have twice the chance of a hard drive failure which would be fatal to the volume. >--Thanks! >Nick > > > >On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:48:39 +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > >>Nick Pavlica wrote: >> >> >>>All, >>> I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two >>>identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents >>>I noticed that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and >>>Gvinum. Which utility should be used? It's my understanding that >>>Gvinum is the most current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the >>>hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum or both? >>> >>> >>I'd reccomend you none of them; look here for detailed reasons: >>http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/. >>In brief, I've experienced severe panics with vinum after an upgrade >>from 5.2.1 to 5.3 and gvinum is marked as alpha software and poorly >>documented. >>I'm quite happy with gmirror now, which the tutorial above describes. >>You would use gstripe instead. >> >> bye >> av. >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:47:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9555516A4F0 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:47:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271A343D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:47:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE65C62899 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:47:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: fwbp6C9HcAvRK72CqA/ULA 1111009671 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-70-61.access.as9105.com [80.41.70.61]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5404975E for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:47:51 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:47:52 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> In-Reply-To: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503162147.52931.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:47:55 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 03:10, Jean Lagarde wrote: > I have been troubleshooting reboots over the last weekend, I think I > might have enough clues now to get some useful hints from an expert. > > FreeBSD 5.3-release (see dmesg below for details) > > The problem seems to be with trying to run with 1.5GB vice 512MB of RAM. > The system has not had problems so far when I only leave the 512MB stick > in. When I add the 1GB stick the system will reboot at specific times, > for example, while trying to launch KDE3 or trying to make OpenOffice > (always reboots at "Extracting for openoffice-1.1.2-1"). I do not see > any panic in the messages log, the system just silently reboots. Have you checked your motherboard's manual for allowed memory combinations? I was thinking of making the same upgrade, but I looked through the table of supported configurations and I noticed that for DDR 400 memory, I should only have 1 double-sided stick. As I understand it, most DDR400 memory at 0.5 and 1GB is currently double-sided. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 21:54:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDE316A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:54:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E10143D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:54:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.13.219] (port=3835 helo=[83.237.13.219]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DBgTc-0000My-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:54:52 +0300 Message-ID: <4238AB2D.30607@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:54:53 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Spare local IP address - not physical alias X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:54:54 -0000 Hello! I have people connecting to my server via ppp. When they establish connection the server gets 172.18.0.1 and they get 172.18.0.x. A dns server is running on 172.18.0.1. The problem is that sometimes there are no ppp connections, and the server does not have the 172.18.0.1 address. But I want applications to be able to query this very address and get answers. Is there a totally secure way to set up a permanent address? Thanks! Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:00:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590E416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail01.oxygen.az (mail01.oxygen.az [212.47.128.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE0C43D39 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from [212.47.128.14] ([212.47.128.14]) by mail01.oxygen.az with esmtp; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:00:10 +0400 Message-ID: <4238AC86.4080400@oxygen.az> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:00:38 +0400 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gdew@responsenetworking.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh, php & mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:23 -0000 George Dew wrote: >After "upgrading" to BSD 4.11, I've been having all sorts of problems. >Please help! > >- The shell no longer supports the "up" cursor key, which gives a history of >commands that you type. > Which shell you were using before upgrade ? And which one do u use now ? Just change it to one,that you used before upgrade. >- Also, mod_php no longer supports mySQL. > >Does anyone know what's going on here? > > > Did you recompile all the installed ports after upgrading to 4.11 ? If not,then do it. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:00:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBC616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE5943D3F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2GM0lev019087; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2GM0jht008667; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:00:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54755.68.165.89.73.1111009454.squirrel@68.165.89.73> References: <52214.68.165.89.73.1110927742.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <1110945574l.25764l.2l@BARTON> <53058.68.165.89.73.1110948884.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <54481.68.165.89.73.1111003279.squirrel@68.165.89.73> <8ba66af9dfd749cff4ec033004d93fdc@mac.com> <54755.68.165.89.73.1111009454.squirrel@68.165.89.73> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:00:44 -0500 To: kalin mintchev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern.ipc.nmbclusters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:00:49 -0000 On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:44 PM, kalin mintchev wrote: >> You were exceeding the amount of socket buffer memory available there. > > i'm aware of that. the question is why? The literal answer is that this pool of open connections with lots of unsent data is clogging things up. Why those connections are not going away is the real question to figure out.... >> FIN_WAIT_1 means that one side of the TCP conversation sent a FIN, and >> the other side (yours) wants to flush the queue of unsent data and >> will >> then close the connection. It's not clear why this isn't working, and >> there is a timer which gets started which ought to close the >> connection >> after 10 minutes or so if no data can be sent. > > well that was what i was suggesting in my post but the sever is set to > cut > inactive connections after 10 seconds - not minutes. is there any other > timer i'm missing here? You are probably referring to the KeepAlive directive in the Apache config file, but there are other timers present in the TCP stack itself: specificly, the one described in RFC-793 around section 3.5, involving a 2 * MSL wait: "3.5. Closing a Connection CLOSE is an operation meaning "I have no more data to send." The notion of closing a full-duplex connection is subject to ambiguous interpretation, of course, since it may not be obvious how to treat the receiving side of the connection. We have chosen to treat CLOSE in a simplex fashion. The user who CLOSEs may continue to RECEIVE until he is told that the other side has CLOSED also. Thus, a program could initiate several SENDs followed by a CLOSE, and then continue to RECEIVE until signaled that a RECEIVE failed because the other side has CLOSED. We assume that the TCP will signal a user, even if no RECEIVEs are outstanding, that the other side has closed, so the user can terminate his side gracefully. A TCP will reliably deliver all buffers SENT before the connection was CLOSED so a user who expects no data in return need only wait to hear the connection was CLOSED successfully to know that all his data was received at the destination TCP. Users must keep reading connections they close for sending until the TCP says no more data." -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:09:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82AD16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:09:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B5143D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413B3C62956 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:09:07 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: Cvknj9Y5HIEyLEChsyPSlQ 1111010946 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-70-61.access.as9105.com [80.41.70.61]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0E25535 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:09:04 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> In-Reply-To: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503162209.04864.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:09:08 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 01:49, Tom Vilot wrote: > I have the port flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 installed (using > firefox-1.0.1_2,1). I find that it crashes firefox pretty consistently. > > However, a quick grep of flash in the ports reveals these: > > > flash-0.9.5 > flashplugin-0.4.3 > flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 > flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12 > flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 > linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2 > linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1 > linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1 > > Should I be using one of these? What are they all!? :c) The first one is a shell. Those that start with flashplugin are based on the third-party GPL version, which is a nice idea, but basically doesn't work. The linux-flashplugin versions are based on the a real macromedia produced linux binary, and work very well. If you are happy to run a third-party binary, then you need linuxpluginwrapper and one of the linux-flashplugin versions. I think version 6 is the stable port and 7 is a beta-port (the last time I looked it didn't work with firefox) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:32:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF06416A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:32:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B0E43D31 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:32:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from canth ([10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2GMX83U059959; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:33:09 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-Id: <200503162233.j2GMX83U059959@unsane.co.uk> From: "Vince" To: "'Gary Kline'" , "'Chuck Swiger'" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:33:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUp9CY5nRf+t+6RTviLQJTE4cp1tgAgaZVw In-Reply-To: <20050316064715.GA85186@thought.org> cc: 'FreeBSD Mailing List' Subject: RE: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:32:47 -0000 > > > > This is strange; I just allowed telnet in /etc/inetd.conf and > reinitialized; from here on sage/ns1, this. No need to enable telnet in inetd.conf if you're just using it to test a tcp connection to another host, that's only if you want to be able to log on to the host from another machine using telnet. > > telnet tao 25 > Trying 10.0.0.247... > telnet: connect to address 10.0.0.247: Connection refused > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host > > Could I be missing something in rc.conf? > Hmm you should get a basic connection, on tao whats the output of sockstat -4 |grep :25 I get root sendmail 651 3 tcp4 *:25 *:* i.e. is sendmail actualy running ? if yes, is it listening on any ip other than 127.0.0.1 ? (mine is listening on *) If still yes then do you have a firewall or tcpwrappers blocking access ? Assuming base sendmail (not ports) what is the output of grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf (should be sendmail_enable="YES" unless you are using sendmail from ports) Vince > gary > > > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org > Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:49:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2096516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:49:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9EA143D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:49:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34587 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2005 22:49:11 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=6Z6RS/2m5oDLwNL+9JGyl3eJllhov8ofhYazcoNFUEfc1TXlaiFLwQnr3LwnlIkudajIVD7cnKI8b0e/UPNtya9FKolaOsIwqyxzZmqx0VO0xVMhmhfaMVlfYpbfdf7HLCCpOQ8wRXey6LByxQnXr74yvj+Mev0+RIYm77CpFE0= ; Message-ID: <20050316224911.34585.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:49:11 PST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Stas Myasnikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:49:12 -0000 --- Stas Myasnikov wrote: > Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:33 -0800 (PST), Boris > Spirialitious > ïèñàë(à): > > >> When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > 4.9. > >> is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > AFAIK FreeBSD4 isn't run on amd64 in 64-bit mode. > Though 5 do. > > >> Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > Yes. Opteron backwards compatible with ia32. > > >> use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > Hmm... Intel making Opteron's? > No, we have product that run on intel machine. It would be nice if we could use same image for both intel and operton platforms. Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:51:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3902016A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF79443D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:51:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91024 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2005 22:51:43 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=g0AIJIn4CwC1aznJ4J4Iz+4paWSrC5ezkqw+7pnTFmQwIj1vHoAhvChilrf3AZZv/C8nySNJlm75TOBaPmDVa/JKCrOfLU7AQO8FlJODfvNivctfS1OuXMuKdTdYa7PV54F+V26CpNKctHqn8meawjdnDPSx/mg9nWMXBTeZ068= ; Message-ID: <20050316225143.91022.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 PST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:51:44 -0000 --- cyb wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > 4GB). > > Why can you not use 5.3? 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? Please don't start with flames. This is what I feel. I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with 1 or 2GB of RAM? Boris > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > Spirialitious wrote: > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > wrote: > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > 4.9. > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > big problems? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Boris > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > Opteron here > > > > Boris > > -- > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 22:58:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0D816A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:58:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAD1443D4C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:58:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 26386 invoked by uid 0); 16 Mar 2005 22:58:51 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2005 22:58:51 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 7EEB864B7; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:58:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:58:51 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20050316225851.GA43966@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20050316203249.GA43323@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20050316205017.GC27170@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316205017.GC27170@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Makefiles compatible with both BSD and GNU make? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:58:54 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 02:50:17PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > > FreeBSD's make understands the gnu-style include syntax with no leading > dot, even though it's undocumented (grep for SYSVINCLUDE in the > source). Automake is the usual way around compatibility issues; it has > its own conditional syntax that it expands out when it generates the > Makefile, and will create the appropriate dependency lines. Sure enough. BSD make requires quotes around the filename in .include ".depend" but if one removes the leading dot on "include" it can't find .depend if the filename is still quoted. This works in BSD make altho its not doing anything that isn't automatically done: .include ".depend" Above is apparently the same as this in GNU make and accepted by BSD: include .depend This does not work in BSD as it seems to be trying to find ".depend" with quotes, which doesn't exist: include ".depend" -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:06:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C2F16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:06:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725E43D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so313129rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DlTzJFoF8GEtsBhb/pt6p4OzE8d13HminkzzaQTMKYC82zvV4o/R5ZYJCjTeozq1ncWybdlVDnx58pdK52dxkfhJiy8lZTlpHX+egod3BaSOLQJ2gFki+hC2GrleUwbyOJlmLgS3yti9Dqv41HuZ5O1US/eZ3Z9tCAK9fOiDTf0= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr980493rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:06:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:06:07 -0500 From: Danny To: FreeBSD-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:06:08 -0000 With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? Thank you, ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:15:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D6A16A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:15:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6E143D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so297606rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:15:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EIfBMLqAsy4gcHbbbEaVm2ik1C/vvboHEILcqE5zKO8b6tHhY5De7GEuHM0XVlqotGxobQVNHCQBSZklhEJEqY+XpdkC10pXhqMVhzSHBDKK1PVtMS7jVFH6f8zp2Aj9n8gzJcCjipnfx5YK+Kh9GPsyR3Sp7oyruVnzJ2Q2jDc= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr982216rni; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:15:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:15:41 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: John Pettitt In-Reply-To: <4238A904.6040801@cloudview.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42376647.4030008@netfence.it> <4238A904.6040801@cloudview.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3+ Vinum or Gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:15:44 -0000 John, That did the trick. I built a new kernel with the GEOM_STRIPE option and added an entry to my fstab to mount the volume(stripe) and everything worked like a charm. In the end this turned out to be much simpler than I had anticipated. I wish this information would have been available in the online documentation (Hand Book). I wouldn't have even known about gstripe, if it were not for the people on this list. I wounder how many undocumented gems are out there. Thanks Again! --Nick On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:45:40 -0800, John Pettitt wrote: > > > Nick Pavlica wrote: > Andrea, I have started testing with gstripe and have had good results to > this point. I'm still a little unclear about how to make my stripe > persistent after a reboot? My server consists of three drives. A 40GB drive > that has the operating system and two 200Gb drives that I'm using for the > raid 0 volume. I was also curious about a couple of other things. If you > made the stripe using something like > > gstripe label -v -s somenumber data /dev/mumble1 /dev/mumble2 > > then it will be persistent subject to gstripe being loaded in the kernel - > use gstripe load or build a kernel with "options GEOM_STRIPE " > > You see something like > > GEOM_STRIPE: Device data2 created (id=889964967). > GEOM_STRIPE: Disk da0 attached to data2. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da1 is ufs/data. > GEOM_STRIPE: Disk da2 attached to data2. > GEOM_STRIPE: Device data2 activated. > > In the boot messages (device names will vary - I'm using two 300GB USB > drives) > > > - There is a .snap directory on the volume. Is this used by gstripe? Nope > that's a ufs2 thing > > > - I used newfs -O 2 to create a UFS2 file system on the volume. Is this > treated like any other UFS2 volume that can utilize fsck, etc? Yes - > although you might want to specify a block size as the defaults tend to > assume lots of small files which is not always the case for very large > stripe sets. > > - How resiliant is this volume if the system were to crash? The same as any > other volume except that you have twice the chance of a hard drive failure > which would be fatal to the volume. > > --Thanks! Nick > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:48:39 +0100, Andrea Venturoli > wrote: > Nick Pavlica wrote: > All, I would like to set up a raid 0 volume on my 5.3 server using two > identical SATA drives. After reading through a number of documents I noticed > that there are two related utilities to do this, Vinum and Gvinum. Which > utility should be used? It's my understanding that Gvinum is the most > current and should be used on 5.3+? Does the hadbook refer to Vinum, Gvinum > or both? I'd reccomend you none of them; look here for detailed reasons: > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/. In brief, I've experienced severe > panics with vinum after an upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3 and gvinum is marked as > alpha software and poorly documented. I'm quite happy with gmirror now, > which the tutorial above describes. You would use gstripe instead. bye av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, > send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:27:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE32516A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2997143D2D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so318488rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=YUC+atxST3nn6LF/b4Xadk88iXwRv5V7HcgNdMdjYeZL9Gd8mzvoILHJOQQMQfN7GHxm5VMAHR/3CndR/rf7aWEGNO7bIpo64erIqiA8beaaMZKF5PVHudSYyRTTDIiW4JJlG6GmmZtNjTOt84rkGjA2/mpGStUfI/FGDVuCer0= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr988962rnb; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:27:01 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Boris Spirialitious In-Reply-To: <20050316225143.91022.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316225143.91022.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> cc: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:03 -0000 Boris, I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was slow compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the newer versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my test servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with it as well. --Nick On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious wrote: > > --- cyb wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > 4GB). > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > feel. > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > Boris > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > wrote: > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > 4.9. > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > Opteron here > > > > > > Boris > > > > -- > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:27:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F78116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1FE43D1D for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfreak@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so39320rny for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nQZNbTuW2GY3JUnwZyli50FppzYnJiEbfKYOWmjMHQs32fV12IgGfG5VgaBCHqscu8BusNAp67NB8st8PuE7sJ0UnvH+7VCpNnjLB1mWuO9OUsDpc/UEvAyhqgZHeCLqxMYaYhyKcEt7drDIPwm+MpDs3elkvLe5gAfxLbohOH0= Received: by 10.38.206.58 with SMTP id d58mr232885rng; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.179.44 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:27:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:27:54 -0500 From: Alexander Chamandy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Failure with php4 and libgd support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexander Chamandy List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:27:56 -0000 Hello, I'm having some problems with php4 and libgd support. I'm running FreeBSD/i386 5.3 which was upgraded from the 4.x STABLE branch a long time ago, but I think a portion of the upgrade may've gone horribly wrong with regards to the compiler or include files. Most things compile fine (userland, kernel, other applications).. but certain things like Apache2, php (*ONLY* when it's testing libgd in the configuration process - otherwise, without gd it compiles fine) fail completely. I was wondering if anyone had experienced something similiar or had any suggestions. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Here is the config.log gd-related error messages from php 4.3.10 with the commandline: ./configure --with-gd=/usr/local --with-mysql --with-apxs=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs >8 *snip snip* >8 configure:33488: checking for gdImageString16 in -lgd configure:33507: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 33496 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageString16(); int main() { gdImageString16() ; return 0; } configure:33619: checking for gdImagePaletteCopy in -lgd configure:33638: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 33627 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImagePaletteCopy(); int main() { gdImagePaletteCopy() ; return 0; } configure:33750: checking for gdImageCreateFromPng in -lgd configure:33769: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 33758 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateFromPng(); int main() { gdImageCreateFromPng() ; return 0; } configure:33881: checking for gdImageCreateFromGif in -lgd configure:33900: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 33889 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateFromGif(); int main() { gdImageCreateFromGif() ; return 0; } configure:34012: checking for gdImageGif in -lgd configure:34031: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34020 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageGif(); int main() { gdImageGif() ; return 0; } configure:34143: checking for gdImageWBMP in -lgd configure:34162: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34151 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageWBMP(); int main() { gdImageWBMP() ; return 0; } configure:34274: checking for gdImageCreateFromJpeg in -lgd configure:34293: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34282 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateFromJpeg(); int main() { gdImageCreateFromJpeg() ; return 0; } configure:34405: checking for gdImageCreateFromXpm in -lgd configure:34424: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34413 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateFromXpm(); int main() { gdImageCreateFromXpm() ; return 0; } configure:34536: checking for gdImageCreateFromGd2 in -lgd configure:34555: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34544 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateFromGd2(); int main() { gdImageCreateFromGd2() ; return 0; } configure:34667: checking for gdImageCreateTrueColor in -lgd configure:34686: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34675 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreateTrueColor(); int main() { gdImageCreateTrueColor() ; return 0; } configure:34798: checking for gdImageSetTile in -lgd configure:34817: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34806 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageSetTile(); int main() { gdImageSetTile() ; return 0; } configure:34929: checking for gdImageEllipse in -lgd configure:34948: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /var/tmp//cc2GmBUB.o(.text+0xd): In function `main': /usr/staff/home/alex/src/php-4.3.10/configure:34944: undefined reference to `gdImageEllipse' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 34937 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageEllipse(); int main() { gdImageEllipse() ; return 0; } configure:35060: checking for gdImageSetBrush in -lgd configure:35079: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35068 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageSetBrush(); int main() { gdImageSetBrush() ; return 0; } configure:35191: checking for gdImageStringTTF in -lgd configure:35210: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35199 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageStringTTF(); int main() { gdImageStringTTF() ; return 0; } configure:35322: checking for gdImageStringFT in -lgd configure:35341: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35330 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageStringFT(); int main() { gdImageStringFT() ; return 0; } configure:35453: checking for gdImageStringFTEx in -lgd configure:35472: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35461 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageStringFTEx(); int main() { gdImageStringFTEx() ; return 0; } configure:35584: checking for gdImageColorClosestHWB in -lgd configure:35603: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35592 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageColorClosestHWB(); int main() { gdImageColorClosestHWB() ; return 0; } configure:35715: checking for gdImageColorResolve in -lgd configure:35734: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35723 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageColorResolve(); int main() { gdImageColorResolve() ; return 0; } configure:35846: checking for gdImageGifCtx in -lgd configure:35865: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35854 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageGifCtx(); int main() { gdImageGifCtx() ; return 0; } configure:35977: checking for gdCacheCreate in -lgd configure:35996: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 35985 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdCacheCreate(); int main() { gdCacheCreate() ; return 0; } configure:36108: checking for gdFontCacheShutdown in -lgd configure:36127: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 36116 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdFontCacheShutdown(); int main() { gdFontCacheShutdown() ; return 0; } configure:36239: checking for gdNewDynamicCtxEx in -lgd configure:36258: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 36247 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdNewDynamicCtxEx(); int main() { gdNewDynamicCtxEx() ; return 0; } configure:36327: gcc -c -g -O2 -I/usr/local/include conftest.c 1>&5 configure: In function `main': configure:36322: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast configure:36674: checking for gdImageCreate in -lgd configure:36693: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd -lgd -lm 1>&5 /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': : undefined reference to `_init_tls' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' configure: failed program was: #line 36682 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ char gdImageCreate(); int main() { gdImageCreate() ; return 0; } >8 *snip snip* >8 -- Best wishes, Alexander G. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B123316A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578F843D41 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:28:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008A5C6296C for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:28:47 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: Z4VXd/TQAKnijxrY9kYIbA 1111015726 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-70-61.access.as9105.com [80.41.70.61]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8899E25535 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:28:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050316224911.34585.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050316224911.34585.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503162328.46411.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:28:49 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 22:49, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > No, we have product that run on intel machine. It > would be nice if we could use same image for both > intel and operton platforms. You can, provided you use the i386 version of FreeBSD and don't optimize the build for anything above 686. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:29:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A9216A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:29:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F5843D49 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:29:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from motionsiren@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2629685wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0/pWiYkj0FNgfSz3scPFQAOisrE3gOx0sS/PBB9AnB+6jWIpw7THZyCdbjzhVK+Hof4A3jN6vua3w2hfCNnJSdFD01uR5VBZ0Q6/VKBopj7sBaTh3GLe3O2dd1gVnqOG5ONX+WkR3i0t9fbn32C/4BEHB+jbVyWBYhOx0I0Nqs= Received: by 10.54.32.33 with SMTP id f33mr2200389wrf; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.72.20 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <781e2bc005031615297b65879b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:29:57 -0800 From: Benjamin Keating To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NFS and rc.conf options (statd lockd, necessary?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benjamin Keating List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:29:58 -0000 Im running FreeBSD 5.2.1 and 5.3 machines The server is 5.2.1 and has the following in it's rc.conf: ---- nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (YES/NO). nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" # Provide NFS only on secure port (YES/NO). nfs_server_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS server (YES/NO). rpcbind_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). ---- My Clients (most;ly 5.3) rc.confs have: ---- nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" # Provide NFS only on secure port (or NO) rpcbind_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (YES/NO). ---- My question is, in /etc/defaults/rc.conf I see: ---- rpc_lockd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. rpc_statd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. ---- Are these to be used or are they obsolete? I don't understand why the handbook makes no mention of these and I'd like to know what they are. How do you have your NFS setup? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:33:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 39F7A16A4D3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:33:23 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Benjamin Keating Message-ID: <20050316233323.GL91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <781e2bc005031615297b65879b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <781e2bc005031615297b65879b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS and rc.conf options (statd lockd, necessary?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:33:23 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:29:57PM -0800, Benjamin Keating wrote: > rpc_lockd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.lockd needed for client/server. > rpc_statd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.statd needed for client/server. > ---- > > > Are these to be used or are they obsolete? I don't understand why the > handbook makes no mention of these and I'd like to know what they are. That's what manpages are for :-) Yes, it's best to run them because they provide useful functionality. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:35:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 5909B16A4CF; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Danny Message-ID: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: > With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ > > Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD > guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? Depends on your threat model, i.e. what are you afraid of? If it's something that cvsup doesn't protect against, and portsnap does, then use the latter. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:49:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A514116A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:49:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5C43D54 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so305369rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MU3GaY9Umv2FJIZ+0Vla77wKy+SGX86K9Y51Rbve+iLyutka7oXZpEdwnIohmZHPWvBiWLW0qQfYF7PEXa1SeVxfdtaIU5Nf543R+wpdz35lkoKMFP+AKM2Ga2aaeh+BxIqZiVeVZuNee4P9tJw4clxc4e6tDIMowwYmgagjxL8= Received: by 10.38.12.26 with SMTP id 26mr1012223rnl; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:49:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:49:05 -0500 From: Danny To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:49:20 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: > > With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ > > > > Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD > > guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? > > Depends on your threat model, i.e. what are you afraid of? I will respond to your question with a question to hopefully answer both of our questions. :) When is the last time a FreeBSD CVSup server was compromised - if ever? > If it's something that cvsup doesn't protect against, and portsnap does, then > use the latter. Assuming Portsnap protects and/or overcomes against all of CVSup's "limitations": "# CVSup is insecure. The protocol uses no encryption or signing, and any attacker who can intercept the connection can insert arbitrary data into the tree you are updating. # CVSup isn't end-to-end. Related to the previous point, this means that anyone who can compromise a CVSup mirror can feed arbitrary data to the people who are using that mirror. # CVSup isn't designed for frequent small updates. While CVSup is very good at distributing CVS trees, and is very efficient for updating a tree which has been significantly changed (eg, by a month or more of commits), it has transmits a list of all the files in the tree, which makes it quite inefficient if only a few files have changed. # CVSup uses a custom protocol. This can cause problems for people behind firewalls -- outgoing connections on port 5999 need to be permitted -- and it needs a heavyweight server (cvsupd)." I don't know, it's just that if the FreeBSD org and handbook recommend using CVSup, it's can't be that bad? Thanks Kris, ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 23:51:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDB716A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:51:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B18F43D8A for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:51:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2GNp7Nx014485 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2GNp7EH014484 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:51:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:51:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050316235107.GA14408@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: sendmail is reaching "tao" once more... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:51:02 -0000 The reason that mail (and other connections) were "refused" from my primary nameserver to here had to do with a missing line in /etc/rc.conf. Could it be this??: defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" I had the DHCP ifconfig line set correctly. If it isn't the routing, perhaps it was that I had the sendmail_submit_enable turned off (="NO"). If anyone knows if either of this configuration lines are necessary, please do clue me in. I'd like this to be the *last* time I run into this issue. thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:14:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975D616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:14:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1D43D58 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:14:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: from sage.thought.org (kline@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2H0ETiN089731; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@sage.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by sage.thought.org (8.13.1/8.12.10/Submit) id j2H0ETKK089730; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:14:28 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Vince Message-ID: <20050317001428.GB89665@thought.org> References: <20050316064715.GA85186@thought.org> <200503162233.j2GMX83U059959@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503162233.j2GMX83U059959@unsane.co.uk> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: 'Gary Kline' cc: 'FreeBSD Mailing List' Subject: Re: "Connection refused" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:14:31 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:33:10PM -0000, Vince wrote: > > > > > > > This is strange; I just allowed telnet in /etc/inetd.conf and > > reinitialized; from here on sage/ns1, this. > > No need to enable telnet in inetd.conf if you're just using it to test > a tcp connection to another host, that's only if you want to be able to > log on to the host from another machine using telnet. > > > > > telnet tao 25 > > Trying 10.0.0.247... > > telnet: connect to address 10.0.0.247: Connection refused > > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host > > > > Could I be missing something in rc.conf? > > > > Hmm you should get a basic connection, on tao whats the output of > sockstat -4 |grep :25 > I get > root sendmail 651 3 tcp4 *:25 *:* > > i.e. is sendmail actualy running ? if yes, is it listening on any ip other > than 127.0.0.1 ? (mine is listening on *) root sendmail 13287 3 tcp4 *:25 *:* So it's the same... . > If still yes then do you have a firewall or tcpwrappers blocking access ? > > Assuming base sendmail (not ports) what is the output of > grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf > (should be sendmail_enable="YES" unless you are using sendmail from ports) > Ah, so it was the _enable="NO" that was causing the trouble. I just got mail flowing to tao by using the rc.conf from a different server that accepted mail from ns1.thought.org. I just asked the list some questions about my mods to /etc/rc.conf on my home server; you've answered my question while I was answering other email. :-) Just to be sure I'll turn off the sendmail_enable, restart, and see it the connection is refused. live and learn... gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:20:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1FF16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay16-f16.bay16.hotmail.com [65.54.186.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1DB43D60 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:20:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan_farrugia@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:20:26 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 212.56.128.186 by by16fd.bay16.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:20:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.56.128.186] X-Originating-Email: [jonathan_farrugia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jonathan_farrugia@hotmail.com From: "Jonathan Farrugia" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:20:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 00:20:26.0903 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E684A70:01C52A87] Subject: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:20:27 -0000 Hi, My Name is Jonathan Farrugia and In Just Downloaded FreeBSD v5.3 from the following server: "ftp://ftp2.ru.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/" and i downloaded disc1 and disc2, and then i got confused cause the name of disc1 was "fbsd_miniinst" and the name of disc2 was "fbsd_livefs". can you explain me what to insert first to install the FreeBSD operating system on an unpartitioned harddisk and what the other is for. thank you. 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:30:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0434916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:30:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dbmail-mx2.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1971A43D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:30:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bnonn@orcon.net.nz) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ip-202-37-231-40.internet.co.nz [202.37.231.40]) (authenticated bits=0)j2H0WaGH021193 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:32:37 +1300 Message-ID: <4238CF9B.9050905@orcon.net.nz> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:30:19 +1300 From: Bnonn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on dbmail-mx2.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:30:51 -0000 Actually, I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this either. What is CD2 for? I've never had occasion to use it. Jonathan Farrugia wrote: Hi, My Name is Jonathan Farrugia and In Just Downloaded FreeBSD v5.3 from the following server: [1]"ftp://ftp2.ru.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/" and i downloaded disc1 and disc2, and then i got confused cause the name of disc1 was "fbsd_miniinst" and the name of disc2 was "fbsd_livefs". can you explain me what to insert first to install the FreeBSD operating system on an unpartitioned harddisk and what the other is for. thank you. Best Regards, Jonathan Farrugia. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! [2]http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ [3]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list [4]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [5]"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" References 1. ftp://ftp2.ru.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/ 2. http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ 3. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 4. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 5. mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:35:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A2616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:35:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2071943D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:35:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAA960E8; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:35:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68104-01; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:35:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C87B60D8; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:35:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4238D0E3.9000002@makeworld.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:35:47 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bnonn References: <4238CF9B.9050905@orcon.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4238CF9B.9050905@orcon.net.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:35:41 -0000 Bnonn wrote: > Actually, I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this either. What is > CD2 for? I've never had occasion to use it. > Jonathan Farrugia wrote: > > Hi, My Name is Jonathan Farrugia and In Just Downloaded FreeBSD > v5.3 from the following server: > [1]"ftp://ftp2.ru.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/" > and i downloaded disc1 and disc2, > and then i got confused cause the name of disc1 was "fbsd_miniinst" > and the name of disc2 was "fbsd_livefs". can you explain me what to > insert first to install the FreeBSD operating system on an > unpartitioned harddisk and what the other is for. thank you. > Best Regards, > Jonathan Farrugia. Think of CD #2 (LiveFS) as a means of a rescue disk. You boot into the livefs, then you can mount your FBSD system and repair it etc. -- Best regards, Chris A stagnant science is at a standstill. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF99516A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:40:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B81143D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mweg@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.94.159.131] X-Originating-Email: [mweg@sympatico.ca] Received: from pepstep ([65.94.159.131]) by bayc1-pasmtp02.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:40:31 -0800 From: "Marco Greene (ML)" To: "'Jonathan Farrugia'" , Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c52a8a$16613550$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 00:40:31.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECB0C0E0:01C52A89] Subject: RE: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:40:33 -0000 >From the handbook.... version-bootonly.iso - Everything you need to boot into a FreeBSD kernel = and start the installation interface. The installable files have to be = pulled over FTP or some other supported source.=20 version-mini.iso - Everything you need to install FreeBSD.=20 version-disc1.iso - Everything you need to install FreeBSD, and as many additional third party packages as would fit on the disc.=20 version-disc2.iso - A ``live filesystem'', which is used in conjunction = with the ``Repair'' facility in sysinstall. A copy of the FreeBSD CVS tree. = As many additional third party packages as would fit on the disc.=20 I usually use CD1. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan = Farrugia Sent: March 16, 2005 7:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Question Hi, My Name is Jonathan Farrugia and In Just Downloaded FreeBSD v5.3 = from=20 the following server: "ftp://ftp2.ru.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/" and i=20 downloaded disc1 and disc2, and then i got confused cause the name of disc1 was "fbsd_miniinst" and = the=20 name of disc2 was "fbsd_livefs". can you explain me what to insert first = to=20 install the FreeBSD operating system on an unpartitioned harddisk and = what=20 the other is for. thank you. Best Regards, Jonathan Farrugia. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! = http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:51:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9B116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290EE43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredoj69@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2645683wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:51:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AAhQaX2/s8Py2SaXVehymUOaiiBZdaXXZJi/dE2g5TiIkv5HFu27pYcdBSkku/4kA+wEEOLdvgf2iI+sSpUJCJxsE1bAsEgJNQeXNXNZx2MTz0JyW8GF5vOSAU9xWf9/ZzN75mIjfSQMMLxgzLOg80OkYMzV1msSyXBywosALJg= Received: by 10.54.35.69 with SMTP id i69mr174809wri; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([70.24.135.21]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 66sm436862wra.2005.03.16.16.51.21; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:51:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:53:25 -0500 From: Aperez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050316195325.7919854e.alfredoj69@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5cbd94c447738b05542ca4418eec87b3@mac.com> References: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <5cbd94c447738b05542ca4418eec87b3@mac.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.5 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FTP server on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:51:25 -0000 try to look into pure-ftpd. You might find your solutions with it On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:19 -0500 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:56 PM, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > I was trying to setup an FTP server last night on my 5.3 box. I was > > using > > the handbook and was instructed to make a new user ftp. So that worked > > fine and I was able to upload to ftp's home dirrectory but wanted to > > know > > if I can safley delete the .* files in his home dirrectory. > > Yes. > > > I was also curious, if I change the permissions on /home/ftp to 755 > > then > > people will be able to read but not write to the dirrectory (do they > > need > > x permission to download a file?). But how do I make it so everyone can > > read but only certain users can write. My goal would to not use local > > accounts but pull usernames and passwords from a MySQL database. I > > would > > rather not transfer the username and password in clear text. > > If you want to permit certain users to write, the normal way of doing > so is to create standard Unix user accounts for them, and use a shell > of /usr/sbin/nologin. > > However, if you care about account security, do not use FTP. > SSH and scp are the way to go.... > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC25C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:56:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CFB43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2H0uA0V012014; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:56:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:05:19 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20050316121309.GA7793@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316122721.GA7906@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20050316130603.GB7986@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> (from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Wed Mar 16 08:06:03 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1111021519l.29506l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:56:17 -0000 On 03/16/05 08:06:03, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-16 13:49, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:27:21 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > > wrote: > >> > >> Show us the output of: > >> > >> # df -ik > > > > $ df -ik > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > Mounted on > > /dev/ad0s1a 253678 35430 197954 15% 981 32041 3% / > > devfs 1 1 0 100% 0 0 100% > /dev > > /dev/ad0s1e 253678 6 233378 0% 3 33019 0% > /tmp > > /dev/ad0s1f 673024 332902 286282 54% 87038 0 100% > /usr >=20 > Here you are. Your /usr partition has no free i-nodes. Probably > because you used too large block/fragment sizes when it was newfs'd. >=20 > You have two options, both of which involve a reinstallation: >=20 > a) Resplit the disk giving more space to /usr. > b) Use a single, big root partition. >=20 > One possible layout, if you choose (a) could be: >=20 > Filesystem Size Mount-point Other > /dev/ad0s1a 100-200 MB / - > /dev/ad0s1b ??? MB - (swap, tmpfs) > /dev/ad0s1e 200-300 MB /var - > /dev/ad0s1f rest /usr the rest of the > disk >=20 > You can then use /usr/home for the home directories of users, and =20 > have > most of your space in /usr (where it is needed). > Maybe you could do 100-200MB for / and /var. Here is my system: $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a 248M 66M 162M 29% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s2e 248M 21M 207M 9% /tmp /dev/ad0s2f 27G 19G 5.4G 78% /usr /dev/ad0s2d 248M 40M 188M 17% /var /dev/ad0s1 8.0G 7.9G 153M 98% /usr/ntfs $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 00:59:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 0437216A4CF; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:59:27 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Danny Message-ID: <20050317005927.GN91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Kris Kennaway cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:59:28 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:49:05PM -0500, Danny wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: > > > With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ > > > > > > Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD > > > guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? > > > > Depends on your threat model, i.e. what are you afraid of? > > I will respond to your question with a question to hopefully answer > both of our questions. :) > > When is the last time a FreeBSD CVSup server was compromised - if ever? I don't know that it's ever happened. I don't know that that's really the threat model you should care about anyway, since someone could compromise the master portsnap server as well, just not any mirrors (but these are currently nonexistent anyway, afaik). Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:03:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3904516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:03:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D984443D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:03:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51007C628F3; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:03:18 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: TsU/Q+A/2qb+WPKUblMSsA 1111021394 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-70-61.access.as9105.com [80.41.70.61]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DF975E; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:03:13 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:03:17 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503170103.17609.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: Fafa Diliha Romanova Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:03:20 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 20:05, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > If I just do: > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > > Do I need portupgrade at all then? I think you do, as I understand the situation, portmanager lacks two significant features. 1. All ports have an implicit dependence on FreeBSD itself which isn't recorded in the package database, so AFAIK portmanager doesn't automatically rebuild all ports after an upgrade of the basic system, and doesn't provide the means to force an upgrade. Portupgrade can force the rebuilding of all ports with -fa; better still it can force the upgrade of ports built before a specified date, which gives a restartable rebuild. I've been trying portmanager recently, but I found this feature of portupgrade very useful when I upgraded my hardware and needed to alter my optimizations from P3 down to 686, and then up to althlon-xp. 2 it lacks the ability to force a rebuild of dependent ports after a port has been rebuilt with new build options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:07:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFA916A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:07:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB30843D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:07:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Mar 2005 01:07:09 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 02:07:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel Bye Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:07:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050315113702.GA46171@catflap.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20050315113702.GA46171@catflap.slightlystrange.org> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart74068833.muEhAGYVbe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503170207.12409@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:07:11 -0000 --nextPart74068833.muEhAGYVbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 15. M=E4rz 2005 12:37 schrieb Daniel Bye: [...] > The machine boots - you see the BIOS POST, the SATA controller comes up, > then you see FreeBSD's boot messages on the console. As soon as the > kernel launches, we get the login: prompt and then nothing. So, we know > the hardware works; the problem is something I am doing with the kernel > config. As I said, this setup is the same as a machine running the same > hardware, that is known to be working. If I understand it correctly you see the kernel probing, any you also see t= hat=20 a getty gets started at ttyd0 but you can't type (and see the echo) anythin= g,=20 right? Maybe it's your terminal connection (null-modem I guess). Make sure to measure 0Ohm between pin 1 and 6 (DSR-DCD) on the DTE (compute= r). That's my only guess. Everything elese seems to be fine... =2DHarry > > I have read the appropriate bits in the Handbook and the FAQ, as well as > a couple of other sites, and have set up serial consoles on numerous > occasions in the past. I'm just having a major brain fart this morning. > Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong? > > Cheers, > > Dan --nextPart74068833.muEhAGYVbe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCONhABylq0S4AzzwRAmdQAJ4qbUlBOo1a5FwAp4S9uJmpUbkylgCfccWr nQVYPYaAYZauHqp6eBOQ2Sg= =Zej7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart74068833.muEhAGYVbe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:08:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBA016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:08:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71043D46 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so341911rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:08:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=YgjSCAARQ+NG21GUySapRzmJc31FKpmzwvVWFTJmDEOdOzP6SdbhQB0l33SPB6y7OgdWBzYCxHtKEPVOLQbqVPfzY2xpxdJ66knh2QYkQAlbNrKCpcCz108GNU16Wghw91ftI99xvqRmf7k4r3eZCh0StWvjnDbllJAAsVizzjs= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr1057047rnb; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:08:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:08:50 -0500 From: Danny To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050317005927.GN91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> <20050317005927.GN91771@hub.freebsd.org> cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:08:51 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:59:27 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: > > When is the last time a FreeBSD CVSup server was compromised - if ever? > > I don't know that it's ever happened. > > I don't know that that's really the threat model you should care about > anyway, since someone could compromise the master portsnap server as > well, just not any mirrors (but these are currently nonexistent > anyway, afaik). Alright, I think it's safe to say that I'll just have to try it out and see which one works best for me. Hopefully I haven't caused any unnecessary controversy, although I would like to hear other comparisons between the two. Thank you for your time, Kris. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:11:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F1816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:11:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0AE43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:11:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DBjW8-0005PS-PF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:09:40 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:09:40 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:09:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <22200a29d60a18f00a253e0a.20050316125612.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> <5cbd94c447738b05542ca4418eec87b3@mac.com> <20050316195325.7919854e.alfredoj69@gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP server on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:11:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-17, Aperez scribbled these curious markings: > try to look into pure-ftpd. You might find your solutions with it As much as I've been tempted to recommend pure-ftpd in the course of reading this thread, I've restrained from doing so for one reason: despite the fact that it does support TLS-encrypted connections, very few *clients* support that. You can have the most encrypted FTP server on the planet, but it won't do you one mite of good if your clients can't talk to the server. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCONnQk/lo7zvzJioRAqtxAJ41nd73jgVw5ZSFgwn2aYheLrxqAwCdHzji UWtX3Py5xDH0mBdrI6Y3lZw= =iuys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:12:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:12:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scorpion.eng.ufl.edu (scorpion.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23FCE43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:12:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@eng.ufl.edu) Received: (qmail 23117 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2005 01:12:03 -0000 Received: from scanner.engnet.ufl.edu (HELO ?128.227.152.221?) (128.227.152.221) by scorpion.eng.ufl.edu with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 01:12:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4238D963.60705@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:12:03 -0500 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <20050316123901.U2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> <444qfbpydd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050316133153.M2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions cc: bob89@bobj.org Subject: Re: Illogical usage of swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:12:05 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > >Hmm, yeah I should have included what I've actually read in the handbook >and elsewhere. In fact I did read that exerpt you quoted the URL >for above sometime previously, when it was quoted in another thread >on the list. > >Free memory (or the lack thereof) isn't the issue though. > >The issue is this: >Swap: 8192M Total, 116K Used, 8192M Free >and that's the piece of the puzzle that has us all utterly baffled. > >No way in creation this box should be swapping. > > > That only tells you how much swap space you have available (8.2GB), it tells you absolutely nothing about why the system might be using some of that space. The previous line > 479M Active, 2470M Inact, 337M Wired, 101M Cache, 199M Buf, 5468K Free says that out of roughly 3.6 GB of memory, only 5.5 MB of it is not in use. Something ate the memory. The next clue is that 2.5 GB of that is "Inactive" which means that whatever is using it hasn't accessed it for a while (but it is still claiming to own it). Perhaps looking at the "RES" column of top will suggest a culprit without requiring you to become an expert on VM stats. Memory pages in the "inactive" queue have been removed from the page table for the owning processes, but are still intact and a page can be easily reassigned to the process that owns its contents if the process tries to access it. If it stays "inactive" long enough, and the "cache" queue starts to run low because processes are asking for memory, a page may be moved to the "cache" queue. This means that whatever action is necessary to make the memory available to other processes has been taken, which in some cases (but not all) will mean that the contents of the memory have been written out to the backing store (swap). Things that can be recovered by other means (e.g. out of the disk file that they were originally read from) need not be swapped, they can simply be discarded, but I don't know how smart the VM system is about that ("pretty smart" seems to be first-order answer). It looks to me like something small had not been used in a long time, so it got written out to the backing store (swap) when you started to get low on memory. Note that something in the "cache" queue may still reside in memory but also reside in swap. That means the memory it uses is immediately available for some other use if necessary (because it is already in swap), but is also immediately available for use by the process that owns the object in that memory space (because it still resides in memory). Thus, the mere fact that something has appeared in swap does not mean that any inefficiency has occured. It just means you were getting low on memory and the VM system started planning ahead by making more memory available. As long as the process that owns the memory object in swap doesn't try to access it, it will probably just sit there, doing no harm. Pages that don't contain anything owned by any process are in the "free" queue. If too much "free" memory accumulates, the VM system will attempt to find something useful for it to do, perhaps assigning it to i/o buffers (the "buf" queue). I suppose that it could even move objects out of swap and back in to the "cache" queue, but I don't know if that actually happens, and even if it does, there is no reason to erase an object from swap until the owning process actually accesses it and makes it active again (or if you run low on swap). At least, that's how I understand it, but I may have some of it wrong. Read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm.html and see what you think. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:21:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FEF16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s001.searchy.nl (s001.searchy.nl [82.94.249.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241B543D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@searchy.nl) Received: from [84.26.28.239] (cp12646-a.roose1.nb.home.nl [84.26.28.239]) by s001.searchy.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23CC8DF13 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:21:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4238DB98.30709@searchy.nl> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:21:28 +0100 From: Frank de Bot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No rebuild on make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:21:32 -0000 Hi, When I do make buildworld, the whole world is build from scratch again. But I've noticed that some changes of my own will let it fail and when I change it, the process starts over again!! How can I build the world, without everything to be rebuild? Thanks in advanced, Frank de Bot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:23:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B12816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:23:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9686A43D49 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:23:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@kelleycows.com) Received: from [10.3.29.200] (c-24-30-114-40.we.client2.attbi.com[24.30.114.40]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050317012317014004j98be>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:23:18 +0000 Message-ID: <4238DC01.3060900@kelleycows.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:23:13 -0800 From: Christopher Kelley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050316201256.D208016A539@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050316201256.D208016A539@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Brian John Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 91, Issue 41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:23:19 -0000 Brian John wrote: >Hello, >When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: >./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /dev/null >cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or >directory >dmake: Error code 1, while making >'./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >*** Error code 255 > >Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. > >Does anyone know why this might happen or what I can do to fix it? > > The mozilla included with OpenOffice.org needs patches to work with the current Freetype2 in ports. Those patches have not been comitted yet, so for now you have to build without mozilla. make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA install clean Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:29:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628A116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6A943D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDH00MNJ2T61012@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:29:30 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1CDD82CE740; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:29:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:29:26 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <200503170103.17609.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> To: RW Message-id: <200503161729.27294.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170103.17609.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:29:33 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 05:03 pm, you wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 20:05, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > If I just do: > > > > cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > > > > Do I need portupgrade at all then? > > I think you do, as I understand the situation, portmanager lacks two > significant features. > > 1. All ports have an implicit dependence on FreeBSD itself which > isn't recorded in the package database, so AFAIK portmanager > doesn't automatically rebuild all ports after an upgrade of the basic > system, and doesn't provide the means to force an upgrade. > > Portupgrade can force the rebuilding of all ports with -fa; better > still it can force the upgrade of ports built before a specified > date, which gives a restartable rebuild. I've been trying portmanager > recently, but I found this feature of portupgrade very useful when > I upgraded my hardware and needed to alter my optimizations from P3 > down to 686, and then up to althlon-xp. > This is the first good case I've seen for forcing a rebuild of all ports. Portmanager isn't intended as replacement for portupgrade, the way I see it they serve different purposes. Portmanager's purpose is to make it as easy as possible to upgrade all ports, with the goal that users have no good excuse to let there ports get way out of date. That is pretty much all it does. Portupgrade has so many useful tools for doing repair/cleanup jobs on the ports tree it would be silly in my opinion for someone to get rid of it. The example you just cited above is a perfect reason to keep portupgrade around. > > 2 it lacks the ability to force a rebuild of dependent ports after a > port has been rebuilt with new build options. There would be no reason to build dependent ports in this situation, the port you changed options on is dependent on the dependent ports, not the other way around. If its the other way where ports depend on this one and they need to be rebuilt for some reason this port needs to change its name depending on the options it was built with. using jdk14 as an example, if you cd /usr/ports/java/jdk14 and run make describe its name will be jdk-1.4.2p7 but if you do make describe MINIMAL=1 its name is jdk-minimal-1.4.2p7 In this case if you change options from normal to minimal or vice versa portmanager will indeed rebuild the ports that used to depend on the previous name. I have seen not one situation where if you change build options on a port and then ran portmanager -u where it missed anything that needed to be rebuilt, if there ever has been such a case it certainly has never been reported. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF57116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:36:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A81543D5C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDH005L534V6VK0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:36:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9E8B2CE740; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:36:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:36:28 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4238DB98.30709@searchy.nl> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503161736.29325.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4238DB98.30709@searchy.nl> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: No rebuild on make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:36:32 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 05:21 pm, Frank de Bot wrote: > Hi, > > When I do make buildworld, the whole world is build from scratch > again. But I've noticed that some changes of my own will let it fail > and when I change it, the process starts over again!! > How can I build the world, without everything to be rebuild? add -DNOCLEAN to makebuild world. Use at your own risk -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:41:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A604216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:41:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BB843D55 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2H1fjLv018475; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:41:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:50:53 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: Christopher Kelley References: <20050316201256.D208016A539@hub.freebsd.org> <4238DC01.3060900@kelleycows.com> In-Reply-To: <4238DC01.3060900@kelleycows.com> (from bsd@kelleycows.com on Wed Mar 16 20:23:13 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.2.6 Message-Id: <1111024253l.29722l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: Brian John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 91, Issue 41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:41:48 -0000 On 03/16/05 20:23:13, Christopher Kelley wrote: > Brian John wrote: >=20 >> Hello, >> When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: >> ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /=20 >> dev/null >> cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such =20 >> file or >> directory >> dmake: Error code 1, while making >> './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >> *** Error code 255 >>=20 >> Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. >>=20 >> Does anyone know why this might happen or what I can do to fix it? >> > The mozilla included with OpenOffice.org needs patches to work with =20 > the current Freetype2 in ports. Those patches have not been comitted =20 > yet, so for now you have to build without mozilla. >=20 > make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA install clean >=20 > Christopher > _______________________________________________ What about WITH_MOZILLA=3Dfirefox in /etc/make.conf. Will OO.org respect =20 that and not build mozilla? If you use firefox that is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:49:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79316A4CE; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:49:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B514743D3F; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:49:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2H1nEUQ026776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:14 -0800 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id j2H1nDow026774; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:49:13 -0800 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Danny Message-ID: <20050317014913.GU18080@alzatex.com> References: <20050316233556.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TegBI+r9roYdcP94" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: Kris Kennaway cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Portsnap necessary? CVSup insecure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:49:16 -0000 --TegBI+r9roYdcP94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:49:05PM -0500, Danny wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:35:56 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrot= e: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 06:06:07PM -0500, Danny wrote: > > > With regards to: http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/ > > > > > > Should I be concerned about my servers that use CVSup? Do the FreeBSD > > > guru's refuse to use CVSup, or is this overkill? > >=20 > > Depends on your threat model, i.e. what are you afraid of? >=20 > I will respond to your question with a question to hopefully answer > both of our questions. :) >=20 > When is the last time a FreeBSD CVSup server was compromised - if ever? >=20 > > If it's something that cvsup doesn't protect against, and portsnap does= , then > > use the latter. >=20 > Assuming Portsnap protects and/or overcomes against all of CVSup's > "limitations": >=20 > "# CVSup is insecure. The protocol uses no encryption or signing, and > any attacker who can intercept the connection can insert arbitrary > data into the tree you are updating. > # CVSup isn't end-to-end. Related to the previous point, this means > that anyone who can compromise a CVSup mirror can feed arbitrary data > to the people who are using that mirror. > # CVSup isn't designed for frequent small updates. While CVSup is very > good at distributing CVS trees, and is very efficient for updating a > tree which has been significantly changed (eg, by a month or more of > commits), it has transmits a list of all the files in the tree, which > makes it quite inefficient if only a few files have changed. > # CVSup uses a custom protocol. This can cause problems for people > behind firewalls -- outgoing connections on port 5999 need to be > permitted -- and it needs a heavyweight server (cvsupd)." >=20 > I don't know, it's just that if the FreeBSD org and handbook recommend > using CVSup, it's can't be that bad? I don't much about portsnap, but if your looking for a secure way to do updates, plain old cvs through an ssh connection is very secure assuming you verified the fingerprint before hand. This will protect against everything mentioned above minus the cvs service itself being compromised, but then again, no protocol is safe against that. >=20 > Thanks Kris, >=20 > ...D > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: CEE1 AAE2 F66C 59B5 34CA C415 6D35 E847 0118 A3D2 =20 --TegBI+r9roYdcP94 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCOOIZbTXoRwEYo9IRAoPcAJwLL1i8QAEvteKRjaqZ1nANB7C3VgCeJw6a Mv9C5R+hAbhIv4VDuI3kqIg= =nPPQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TegBI+r9roYdcP94-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 01:53:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79D216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7773E43D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:53:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Received: from fat_man.ascendency.net ([67.175.78.52]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050317015307014004rujbe>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:53:07 +0000 Received: from Mike8500 (c-67-173-128-145.client.comcast.net [67.173.128.145]) (authenticated) by fat_man.ascendency.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2H1uoi04496; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:56:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mike@ascendency.net) Message-Id: <200503170156.j2H1uoi04496@fat_man.ascendency.net> From: "Mike Loiterman" To: "'Danny Howard'" Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:52:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050316022058.GH44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> Thread-Index: AcUp9EGklo8s/lnEQCaYdFrBTFX9UwAn4hxw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mike@ascendency.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:53:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Danny Howard wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:37:24PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> I tried following the instructions at: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ and couldn't make it work. >> >> I ended up installing a minimal installation on one disk, reooting >> to the new install, doing atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6, then >> rebooting to the install CD and installing into ar0. This seems to >> have worked. > > This all sounds extremely familiar. I did all of this, and it made me > very quesy. So, I ripped it out and tried again. > >> Is your solution better? > > You can deliver your own opinion, my resolution is at: > http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ > > Cheers, > -danny I was able to make the atacontrol method work flawlessly via a simulated disk failure (formated it and did a atacontrol rebuild). Is gmirror more reliable? I still don't understand gmirror, how it works and how to properly set one up. That's probably why I'm resistant to working with it. - ------------------------------ Mike Loiterman grantADLER Tel: 630-302-4944 Fax: 773-442-0992 Email: mike@ascendency.net PGP Key: 0xD1B9D18E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQjji7mjZbUnRudGOEQIDWgCdGFxrHT2XUptfsltycaI0bYcK5SwAn1ml ncVpUJu0bC0UgsqV1VSMNbcY =tKU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 02:06:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75E16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:06:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F104D43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johna9999@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so71477wri for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gt1hFr/MX4bOygYhHtjLQbSuNqeNlV3oCRafDqBLS3M2ELvvhZOKk/7PCblVqSlhEwxiL57tIlu3joGnIHWPfpmXgqZnCVlHFKXaO4wNj3+VaCkxg4/jzyI7EmS7F55gU3JO5V6VeQYNGw1MnOTEwyZkFr5Dk/NgdG1BhRt52bw= Received: by 10.54.62.9 with SMTP id k9mr88944wra; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.66 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:06:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:06:32 -0500 From: John Allesee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Allesee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:06:33 -0000 This one has got me stumped. Been working on it for 3 days now with no resolution. Please help. I have a 686 system that I just installed 5.3 on through ftp. So I know that my network setup works. I have 2 networks that I am trying to access through. One network is connected to a 100mb 3com hub using private ips into a firewall. This one works with no problems. The problem comes when I connect the system to the other network. This network is connected through a Breezecom wireless radio at 10mb. I can see that the network is up, ip address is assigned, routes are set correctly. Pings time out. No traffic appears to cross from radio. Plug windoze box to radio, works fine. Plug radio into 10mb hub and plug FBSD server and windoze box to hub, same results on both. I can ping FBSD from windoze. FBSD still sees nothing. If I run tcpdump, wait 10 sec, hit ctl-C, nothing happens for 2.5 min. 1 packet is displayed and exit reports 1 packet captured, 6775 packets received by filter, 6094 packets dropped by kernel. I have tried 3 different network cards, each has the same results. Card 1: 3Com 3C905B, card 2: SMC 9432TX, card 3: Generic 10mb card by Realtec I know that the obvious answer is to connect the server through my firewalled connection, but I have a need to access another part of my company network from my desk and the wireless net is the easiest way to do this. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. TIA, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 02:12:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2FC16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:12:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ratchet.nebcorp.com (ratchet.nebcorp.com [205.217.153.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BAF43D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:12:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djh@nebcorp.com) Received: by ratchet.nebcorp.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) id 8359BD9849; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:12:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:12:27 -0600 From: Danny Howard To: Mike Loiterman Message-ID: <20050317021227.GL44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> References: <20050316022058.GH44253@ratchet.nebcorp.com> <200503170156.j2H1uoi04496@fat_man.ascendency.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503170156.j2H1uoi04496@fat_man.ascendency.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: <$100 SATA RAID Card 5.3 compatible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:12:29 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:52:46PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: > >> Is your solution better? > > > > You can deliver your own opinion, my resolution is at: > > http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ > > I was able to make the atacontrol method work flawlessly via a simulated > disk failure (formated it and did a atacontrol rebuild). Is gmirror more > reliable? I'd say that "if it aint broke, don't fix it." > I still don't understand gmirror, how it works and how to properly set one > up. That's probably why I'm resistant to working with it. I think atacontrol scared me a bit because it is the "ATA device driver program" and this inbreeding between "managing hard disks" and "managing RAIDs" bothered me, and gmirror wsa new and shiny and not-so-well-documented, so I figured I'd make that work. It seems like there are a bunch of competing interfeces to the new geom stuff and eventually a few of them will turn out to be the popular ones, and the others will become this funky weird appendices like systat. And we'll look back on our respective decisions nostalgically. -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 02:16:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:16:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD6D43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2660798wra for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:16:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GxGLOE7h+OB1uFvHm7wHG/uVxLDgZxYsIM/DZ4QJWDs6f/dl324J5/PL4d+VILScwvRjMfNt3R0UM3VkYyflscMVxW6nu5/Oksbk5Vr/Wn064ViYrmDIMa9P/aeE21fXp8TkEL2zVYDR/x2HvxG987NnxiDR/cz6R32h+YEbPYQ= Received: by 10.54.22.15 with SMTP id 15mr372541wrv; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:16:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:16:51 +0200 From: abu khaled To: John Allesee In-Reply-To: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: abu khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:16:52 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:06:32 -0500, John Allesee wrote: > This one has got me stumped. Been working on it for 3 days now with > no resolution. Please help. > > I have a 686 system that I just installed 5.3 on through ftp. So I > know that my network setup works. I have 2 networks that I am trying > to access through. One network is connected to a 100mb 3com hub using > private ips into a firewall. This one works with no problems. > > The problem comes when I connect the system to the other network. This > network is connected through a Breezecom wireless radio at 10mb. I > can see that the network is up, ip address is assigned, routes are set > correctly. Pings time out. No traffic appears to cross from radio. > Plug windoze box to radio, works fine. Plug radio into 10mb hub and > plug FBSD server and windoze box to hub, same results on both. I can > ping FBSD from windoze. FBSD still sees nothing. If I run tcpdump, > wait 10 sec, hit ctl-C, nothing happens for 2.5 min. 1 packet is > displayed and exit reports 1 packet captured, 6775 packets received by > filter, 6094 packets dropped by kernel. > > I have tried 3 different network cards, each has the same results. > Card 1: 3Com 3C905B, card 2: SMC 9432TX, card 3: Generic 10mb card by > Realtec > > I know that the obvious answer is to connect the server through my > firewalled connection, but I have a need to access another part of my > company network from my desk and the wireless net is the easiest way > to do this. > > Any and all help is greatly appreciated. > > TIA, > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well I am sure some one well help you if you provide more information about your network configuration/firewall rules,etc... Do you have a firewall configured on the freebsd box/M$windoze? -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 03:15:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CE716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:15:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1A843D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xmisoy@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so373884rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:15:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pmMC7tPXOVbXu7Io2pof6L2rpvkLyLZ8ViAd+hs/RMuLIjy1dzXre8oGTx6DtuRs5T6xKBXP5yPWk54ARGZW13ThmBQrUgwHRJQhxfAUsLKz8YeDj/2o+CclVMDB0pB5n+stR83pfbOfLICig3ZYWkhKj/+72KN/8jfCrCzIy4Y= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr1140750rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.44 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:15:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36f5bbba050316191515754379@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:15:26 +0000 From: "Edwin D. Vinas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <36f5bbba050316113631be0ef3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_715_28888861.1111029326609" References: <36f5bbba050316113631be0ef3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: DSL LAN Sharing with FreeBSD-5.3+natd+ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edwin D. Vinas" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:15:27 -0000 ------=_Part_715_28888861.1111029326609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hi, how do i permanently set the rules for ipfw? whenever i restart my FreeBSD server which has natd & firewall enabled, the ipfw returns to default which is "65535 151 14646 deny ip from any to any". so i need to repeat "ipfw -f flush" and execute the commands below so that my LAN can access the Internet. simple ruleset that must appear when "ipfw show" is executed: 00100 28 2096 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00200 37 3147 allow ip from any to any 65535 151 14646 deny ip from any to any do u have an ideal ipfw rules that i can follow for a setup which consists of a FreeBSD-5.3, natd, firewall, and DSL (static IP) connection? i just need to as much as possible prevent my LAN from attacks/virus/worms from outside world. -edwin -- -- Edwin D. Vi=F1as http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- ------=_Part_715_28888861.1111029326609 Content-Type: text/plain; name=notes; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="notes" #--March 16, 2005 - users: misoy/edv; root/mfr - installed snmp(comstring edvgrfr) - installed MRTG (/usr/local/etc/mrtg) - installed firefox (so long to install via ports) - IP addresses: rl0 192.168.0.1 dc0 203.215.106.226 - reconfigured Kernel (KERNEDV) foir natd and firewall - Natd/fIREWALL problem: - cannot ping "denied", ipfw disable firewall - natd -interface dc0 /sbin/ipfw -f flush /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via dc0 /sbin/ipfw add pass all from any to any Current Configs: @RC.CONF # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu Mar 17 05:38:59 2005 # Created: Thu Mar 17 05:38:59 2005 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" gateway_enable="YES" hostname="elive_server.elive.com" ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" inetd_enable="NO" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" # added for natd and firewall firewall_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="dc0" natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Created: Wed Mar 16 22:01:13 2005 # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Mar 16 22:01:13 2005 ifconfig_dc0="inet 203.215.106.226 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="203.215.106.1" hostname="elive_server.elive.com" @natd.conf interface dc0 use_sockets yes same_ports yes @ipfw show 00100 28 2096 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00200 37 3147 allow ip from any to any 65535 151 14646 deny ip from any to any = can ping from server internet and LAN ip - lan PC can ping server NIC1 and NIC2, but cant ping Internet WORKING SCENARIO: - Restart/Turn on machine. - check if natd is running with correct interface - check if ipfw contains same rules as above (chek interface) ------=_Part_715_28888861.1111029326609-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 03:25:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B976D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts6.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32DA43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from interpool.homeunix.com ([69.158.188.170]) by simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050317032518.DMTV1597.simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@interpool.homeunix.com> for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:25:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:25:27 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050316222527.3c9bb015.lists@interpool.ca> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ports and Packages: Updating problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:25:20 -0000 I just upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9R to 4.11R (cvsup'd sources and ports, buildworld, buildkernel, etc). Then I went to work on upgrading my ports. Portupgrade and some manual intervention did a fairly decent job. I used the "ports" which compiled mostly everything (Xfree-4 went fine too) but it never compiles KDE so I fall-back to using "packages" for those. But I'm confused as to why the packages seem to be older versions than what's in the ports? A fair bit of the packages required for KDE spit out notices they were expecting version B of a dependency but I have version A (the latest) I can't update via ports: arts-1.3.2,1 gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 kdemultimedia-mpeglib_artsplug-3.3.2 koffice-1.3.5_1,1 and if I try to install via package, I get the versions above, which are now considered "old" and I'm being told they need to be updated when I run pkg_version I get varying errors when trying to compile via ports, of which something about libjpeg seems to be common. Do I need to cvsup again and try the above 4 programs again? or do I need to capture the text where they bomb and submit to the ports' responsible person? Thanks... -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 03:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA27D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:29:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386F043D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlagarde@bigfoot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (12-219-244-121.client.mchsi.com[12.219.244.121]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20050317032944m92003a1q1e>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:29:45 +0000 Message-ID: <4238F9A7.5050000@bigfoot.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:29:43 -0800 From: Jean Lagarde User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:29:47 -0000 Thanks to all who replied. So it seems the consensus is a likely hardware issue, and I am leaning that way as well now. I will try the suggestion about disabling ACPI however. To address some of the other comments, that exact CPU-mobo-memory configuration worked fine running Win2000 for many years, so I doubt it is the problem per se. Also, I did try the 1GB stick alone yesterday and it had similar symptoms as for 1.5 GB. I do know where to look for a panic message and there is none. About my running Win2000 on this hardware before, I would initially have thought that this made a hardware problem improbable, but I used to run the computer continually and I guess it's not impossible that there was a hardware degradation that was mitigated by the system staying warm all the time. The system was mothballed for a few months before my FreeBSD install, so the prolonged period at room temperature may have allowed some motherboard degradation to get worse. I was led to form that hypothesis because I noticed yesterday that there seems to be a relation with temperature: I ran burnP6 and crashme concurrently (both ran without problem with any memory configuration but I realize that neither of these two utilities necessarily stress the system in the way I need) and since they ran fine with the 1.5 GB in I tried to start KDE again (leaving the stress applications running) and it did bring everything up without rebooting. I stopped the system and let it cool down and KDE made the system reboot as before after a restart. I guess my next step will be to install chm or something like that to monitor the temperatures as the system runs, but anyway, it seems this is likely not a FreeBSD problem anymore, so I thank you all again for the suggestions and will continue troubleshooting the hardware. My immediate guess is either the CPU or motherboard. Oh yeah, I still wonder thought why "memtest all" only seemed to "find" 512MB of RAM, but I think it is a side issue at this time. Cheers, Jean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 03:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E866616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD56143D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDH001B88E7RVU1@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:30:08 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9FAAE2CE740; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:30:04 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050316222527.3c9bb015.lists@interpool.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503161930.04755.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050316222527.3c9bb015.lists@interpool.ca> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Ports and Packages: Updating problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 03:30:09 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 07:25 pm, Gerry Freymann wrote: > I just upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9R to 4.11R (cvsup'd sources and > ports, buildworld, buildkernel, etc). > > Then I went to work on upgrading my ports. Portupgrade and some > manual intervention did a fairly decent job. > > I used the "ports" which compiled mostly everything (Xfree-4 went > fine too) but it never compiles KDE so I fall-back to using > "packages" for those. > > But I'm confused as to why the packages seem to be older versions > than what's in the ports? A fair bit of the packages required for KDE > spit out notices they were expecting version B of a dependency but I > have version A (the latest) > > I can't update via ports: > > arts-1.3.2,1 > gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 > kdemultimedia-mpeglib_artsplug-3.3.2 > koffice-1.3.5_1,1 > > and if I try to install via package, I get the versions above, which > are now considered "old" and I'm being told they need to be updated > when I run pkg_version > > I get varying errors when trying to compile via ports, of which > something about libjpeg seems to be common. > > Do I need to cvsup again and try the above 4 programs again? or do I > need to capture the text where they bomb and submit to the ports' > responsible person? > > Thanks... > -gerry Gerry, give portmanager a try. It should straighten out the dependencies for you and rebuild everthing via ports. This is all you need do: cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanger make install clean rehash portmanager -u -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 04:39:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D4D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:39:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350B043D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@kelleycows.com) Received: from [10.3.29.200] (c-24-30-114-40.we.client2.attbi.com[24.30.114.40]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20050317043917016007kbfge>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:39:17 +0000 Message-ID: <423909F4.3080601@kelleycows.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:39:16 -0800 From: Christopher Kelley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Henson References: <20050316201256.D208016A539@hub.freebsd.org> <4238DC01.3060900@kelleycows.com> <1111024253l.29722l.0l@BARTON> In-Reply-To: <1111024253l.29722l.0l@BARTON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Brian John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:39:18 -0000 Jason Henson wrote: > On 03/16/05 20:23:13, Christopher Kelley wrote: > >> Brian John wrote: >> >>> dmake: Error code 1, while making >>> './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >>> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >>> *** Error code 255 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. >>> >>> Does anyone know why this might happen or what I can do to fix it? >>> >> The mozilla included with OpenOffice.org needs patches to work with >> the current Freetype2 in ports. Those patches have not been >> comitted yet, so for now you have to build without mozilla. >> >> make -DWITHOUT_MOZILLA install clean >> > > What about WITH_MOZILLA=firefox in /etc/make.conf. Will OO.org > respect that and not build mozilla? If you use firefox that is. > I don't know for sure, but looking through the Makefile for OOo, it doesn't look like it. The way I understand it, OOo doesn't build the www/mozilla port (e.g. mozilla is not a depency of OOo). Looking at the Makefile for OOo, it looks like it specifially fetches and builds an old version of Mozilla (1.0), so I'd really think that setting WITH_MOZILLA=firefox wouldn't have any effect. There doesn't seem to be any place in the Makefile that it would check for this. Somebody who REALLY knows the answer probably should give the exact answer, but I'd feel guilt about not responding if I didn't at least offer my observations. :) Also, OT, but sorry about the botched subject heading in the original reply. My bad. Christopher From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 04:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901816A4CE; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-7.estpak.ee (mail.hot.ee [194.126.101.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E743D55; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [217.159.164.183] (217-159-164-183-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [217.159.164.183]) by MXR-7.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F53AB6C73; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:47:39 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <42390B81.4080009@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:45:53 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> <20050316200949.GF91771@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050316200949.GF91771@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at hot.ee cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which ports use C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:47:43 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > >>Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports >>anyway? > > That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you > have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and > compile new software against them on 5.3. OK. But just to make sure I understand it right - does this mean that if I upgrade to 5.3, then those ports that depend on some incompatible library or are written in C++ do not work until they are recompiled? I'm aware that some of the library upgrades can be overcome with /etc/libmap.conf, but apparently this doesn't get it all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 06:02:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEFD16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:02:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BBA43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evergreenicecream@comcast.net) Received: from office (c-24-18-162-34.client.comcast.net[24.18.162.34]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005031706020401300edaf4e>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:02:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c52ab8$8bfeae40$6500a8c0@hsd1.wa.comcast.net> From: "CARRIE WUERFEL" To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:14:02 -0800 Organization: EVERGREEN ICE CREAM LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Question about install. (two hard drives, install freebsd on second) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:02:05 -0000 I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop Pentium 3 = 1ghrtz with 512mb ram. I recently dusted off a old hard drive that = contains a whole 2 gigs of hard drive space. I have installed the hard = disk drive and am wanting to install "FreeBsd" on it. Before I go about = mucking things up, I just wanted to make sure that when I go to install = FreeBsd it will not mess up the existing hard drive. I have business = and payroll progs on it. I am also wondering if when installing there = is an actual question asked by the installation prog for destination. = Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and I swear I read through your = installation info until my eyes dried out and couldn't find the answers, = so that is why I am bothering you. I did try to find the answer first. = Anyways any help would be cool as I would really like to start = relearning another operating system. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:17:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE27316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C08543D54 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050317071751016007mr6be>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:17:51 +0000 Message-ID: <004101c52ac1$7a5a9a60$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "CARRIE WUERFEL" , References: <000201c52ab8$8bfeae40$6500a8c0@hsd1.wa.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:18:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: Question about install. (two hard drives, install freebsd on second) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:17:53 -0000 You can install FreeBSD indepedently on its own drive while another OS coexists on a previous drive in your system. You would most likely want to use an alternate bootloader installed on the mater boot record of the first drive.. such as GAG or Grub.. but the FreeBSD bootloader works just as well.. If you decide later to remove the second drive with the FreeBSD installaion on it, you can simply replace the original Microsoft bootloader by running an fdisk on the master boot record Also, a 2 gig drive is going to be very limiting in what you can install and run on your system.. but.. good luck to you and happy BSD'ing T ----- Original Message ----- From: "CARRIE WUERFEL" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Question about install. (two hard drives, install freebsd on second) I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop Pentium 3 1ghrtz with 512mb ram. I recently dusted off a old hard drive that contains a whole 2 gigs of hard drive space. I have installed the hard disk drive and am wanting to install "FreeBsd" on it. Before I go about mucking things up, I just wanted to make sure that when I go to install FreeBsd it will not mess up the existing hard drive. I have business and payroll progs on it. I am also wondering if when installing there is an actual question asked by the installation prog for destination. Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and I swear I read through your installation info until my eyes dried out and couldn't find the answers, so that is why I am bothering you. I did try to find the answer first. Anyways any help would be cool as I would really like to start relearning another operating system. Andy _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:20:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DE016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8A043D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:20:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.209] (helo=[62.68.179.209]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1DBpIq-000BcS-Kf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:20:20 +0100 Message-ID: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:20:23 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:20:26 -0000 Hi All! I could compile a new kernel (4.8 p27). It logs in to an ADSL line with ppp (tun0 created). But I cannot ping even myself. This is a router, the other device is connected to a local network 172.16.0/20 messias>ping 127.0.0.1 ping:sendto:no route to host messias>netstat -nr Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 3 lo0 172.16.0/20 link#2 UC 3 0 rl0 I dot see the gateway here (Flags: G) but it should work for 127.0.0.1 without it. ARP is also working, the physical connection is okay on the LAN: messias>arp 172.16.0.26 ? (172.16.0.26) at 00:50:1d:5f:18:20 on rl0 [ethernet] I also tried this: messias>route add default 172.16.0.1 The default gateway became "172.16.0.1 UGSc rl0". Despite this: messias>ping 172.16.0.26 PING 172.16.0.26 (172.16.0.26): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: No route to host "named" does not work either. It is started but when I start nslookup it says 'No response from server'. Is it a missing 'options' from the kernel config? The same machine was working before with the same setting but a different kernel (GENERIC). Unfortunately, I need to do this within 1 hour. Employees are coming and they will cut my neck.... Laci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:23:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157D316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:23:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiba.meibin.jp (shiba.meibin.jp [211.18.246.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74FE943D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:23:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 28036 invoked by uid 1011); 17 Mar 2005 07:22:38 -0000 Received: from 210.128.238.10 by shiba.meibin.jp (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/705. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(210.128.238.10):SA:0(1.5/3.0):. 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(lukek@meibin.net@210.128.238.10) by shiba.meibin.jp with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 07:22:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:20:23 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy In-Reply-To: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> Message-Id: <20050317161959.9260.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:23:14 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:20:23 +0100 Laszlo Zsolt Nagy spake thus: > > Hi All! > > > I could compile a new kernel (4.8 p27). It logs in to an ADSL line with > ppp (tun0 created). But I cannot ping even myself. > This is a router, the other device is connected to a local network > 172.16.0/20 > > > messias>ping 127.0.0.1 > ping:sendto:no route to host > > > messias>netstat -nr > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 3 lo0 > 172.16.0/20 link#2 UC 3 0 rl0 > > > I dot see the gateway here (Flags: G) but it should work for 127.0.0.1 > without it. > > ARP is also working, the physical connection is okay on the LAN: > > messias>arp 172.16.0.26 > ? (172.16.0.26) at 00:50:1d:5f:18:20 on rl0 [ethernet] > > I also tried this: > > messias>route add default 172.16.0.1 > > The default gateway became "172.16.0.1 UGSc rl0". Despite this: > > messias>ping 172.16.0.26 > PING 172.16.0.26 (172.16.0.26): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > > "named" does not work either. It is started but when I start nslookup it > says 'No response from server'. > > Is it a missing 'options' from the kernel config? The same machine was > working before with the same setting > but a different kernel (GENERIC). Unfortunately, I need to do this > within 1 hour. Employees are coming > and they will cut my neck.... > > Laci check firewall setups HTH -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:27:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D6F16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:27:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAC643D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.0.0.132] (unknown [10.0.0.132]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2949F47E01B; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:55 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:27:14 -0000 Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote: > > Hi All! > > > I could compile a new kernel (4.8 p27). It logs in to an ADSL line > with ppp (tun0 created). But I cannot ping even myself. > This is a router, the other device is connected to a local network > 172.16.0/20 > > > messias>ping 127.0.0.1 > ping:sendto:no route to host > > > messias>netstat -nr > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 3 lo0 > 172.16.0/20 link#2 UC 3 0 rl0 > > > I dot see the gateway here (Flags: G) but it should work for > 127.0.0.1 without it. > > ARP is also working, the physical connection is okay on the LAN: > > messias>arp 172.16.0.26 > ? (172.16.0.26) at 00:50:1d:5f:18:20 on rl0 [ethernet] > > I also tried this: > > messias>route add default 172.16.0.1 > > The default gateway became "172.16.0.1 UGSc rl0". Despite this: > > messias>ping 172.16.0.26 > PING 172.16.0.26 (172.16.0.26): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: No route to host > > "named" does not work either. It is started but when I start nslookup > it says 'No response from server'. > > Is it a missing 'options' from the kernel config? The same machine was > working before with the same setting > but a different kernel (GENERIC). Unfortunately, I need to do this > within 1 hour. Employees are coming > and they will cut my neck.... > > Laci Try to turn off your firewall first. ( pfctl -d or something similar if using ipfw ) I hope this helps. Vladimir Vladimir Dvorak -- * VDSOFT.ORG dvorakv@vdsoft.org * * (+420) 602 944 941 http://www.vdsoft.org * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:32:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEA016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:32:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A21A43D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.209] (helo=[62.68.179.209]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1DBpUY-000CFT-Nf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:32:26 +0100 Message-ID: <4239328D.7060505@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:32:29 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:32:31 -0000 > Try to turn off your firewall first. ( pfctl -d or something similar > if using ipfw ) I hope this helps. > > Vladimir > > Vladimir Dvorak I set firewall_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf Did not work. Please also note that I did not change my configuration on this machine, I just compiled a new kernel. All the networking configuration remained the same. In theory, my firewall rules are good. I believe the problem is with the kernel since I did not change anything else. Why it says 'no route' when I added the default route? Laci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:40:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAAA16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:40:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC143D55 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:40:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.0.0.132] (unknown [10.0.0.132]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81FD47E01F; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:40:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423934B3.1080606@vdsoft.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:41:39 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> <4239328D.7060505@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <4239328D.7060505@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:40:58 -0000 Laszlo Zsolt Nagy wrote: > >> Try to turn off your firewall first. ( pfctl -d or something similar >> if using ipfw ) I hope this helps. >> >> Vladimir >> >> Vladimir Dvorak > > > I set > firewall_enable="NO" > > in /etc/rc.conf > > Did not work. Please also note that I did not change my configuration > on this machine, I just compiled a new kernel. > All the networking configuration remained the same. In theory, my > firewall rules are good. I believe the problem is with > the kernel since I did not change anything else. Why it says 'no > route' when I added the default route? > > Laci > What did you changed in kernel CONFIG ? One important remark - if you are in stress, reboot to old working kernel (hope that will work :-) ) and wait till evening. Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:49:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406D816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E579543D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.209] (helo=[62.68.179.209]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1DBpkc-000DFL-D7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:49:02 +0100 Message-ID: <42393671.9040702@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:49:05 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> <4239328D.7060505@freemail.hu> <423934B3.1080606@vdsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <423934B3.1080606@vdsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:49:07 -0000 >> > What did you changed in kernel CONFIG ? My original kernel was the GENERIC kernel that was included on the distribution CD. I only added some options to that, did not remove anything. Added things were: NETGRAPH (all netgraph modules) HZ=1000 DUMMYNET BRIDGE (can it be the problem?) and some others (not related to networking). I also removed INET6 but it is not needed here. You are right, I should not be stressed. IT people usually too stressed. :-) In the worst case, I'll give a holiday for everybody. Laci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 07:55:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544B916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21AF43D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so440774rne for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T55NNwkFwRNRj7CqLHLVh6EaX/stNwyZlePvNv0JwpJjJ3F6DxVOnRGPqtNH7YbWK4i84LSvrYwBB2N/1EV9fjGyyIc6Y1/qa94DlYf4CdAuubZ6UKlyhau61b57igB2dEK+U+Cb7ZGBgQfdqCSdw2aTKOUESZ4ffHRGvAYA2ms= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr1287971rnd; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:55:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:55:56 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xorg.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:55:57 -0000 This works but i still get a warning no matching device section for instance busid PCI:2:0:1 found How can i get rit of the warning ? Does somebody know how to tweak the xorg.conf for a radeon 9800xt so all features are enabled ? Does BusID "PCI:2:0:0" need to be "PCI:2:0:1" ? ############# # /etc/X11/xorg.conf # ############# Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" #Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "5" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 360 290 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "IVM" ModelName "HM903D/DT" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 30.0 - 132.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 200.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "ForcePCIMode" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" # [] #Option "CloneMode" # [] #Option "CloneHSync" # [] #Option "CloneVRefresh" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV360 [RADEON 9800 XT]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 08:08:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE3616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850343D58 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthew@thebunker.net) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849C99776B; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2H88iWY000516; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:46 GMT (envelope-from matthew@gravitas.thebunker.net) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by gravitas.thebunker.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2GK8GJR001542; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:08:16 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:05:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Boris Spirialitious Message-ID: <20050316200556.GA711@gravitas.thebunker.net> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Boris Spirialitious , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050315165022.34669.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050315165022.34669.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:59 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote: > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9.=20 > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came in with 5.x, so you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release version. =20 =20 > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > big problems? You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- but what would be the point? All you get then is a machine that costs more than an equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs worse. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQjiRpJr7OpndfbmCAQLufgQAjNXtY3pvmLIHCiDX6aD8GAlfJ4/ddByB SjOZYAB2R0XkdpgCENPd1zq46oCxF4eOVu8+jAzTcHXEispCVfn/KnLs3SfB/3MP 2g5co7VzhqLuVrbNMuCWfohLwTOkpYlq4XRfXJkoVk56bWgWXh9wZFzEJItZ1Tws C4m2XZ5Lek0= =Z8EH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 08:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C922D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:12:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D1A43D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.209] (helo=[172.16.0.26]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1DBq7G-000EqD-Vb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:12:27 +0100 Message-ID: <42393BED.6050100@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:12:29 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000907040707030602050504" Subject: [Fwd: Re: no route to host - urgent problem] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:12:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000907040707030602050504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------000907040707030602050504 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: no route to host - urgent problem" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: no route to host - urgent problem" Message-ID: <42393BE3.5040204@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:12:19 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Dvorak Subject: Re: no route to host - urgent problem References: <42392FB7.8080907@freemail.hu> <4239317B.5070108@vdsoft.org> <4239328D.7060505@freemail.hu> <423934B3.1080606@vdsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <423934B3.1080606@vdsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One important remark - if you are in stress, reboot to old working > kernel (hope that will work :-) ) and wait till evening. > > Vladimir Ok I did not delete the old kernel. Everything is fine now. Thank you for your help. Laci --------------000907040707030602050504-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 09:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335E216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:16:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3A43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:16:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so436253rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=fQgpGMHuRTUYevc2Tp6gynvgJeR8XrNj4zIlCj26UGKQvbuUMEisp3n1KpwtZOHAwgusVyW8ymdFVF45dyag7/7DByN5syWYhs96Okg0ObKxEs5n8Cx6ee+3o5nRwsCvQjX95m4ZtTnQJLEj1htAbD8y2nQE1xr7xps4K8/4rRA= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr1325417rni; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:36 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: RW In-Reply-To: <200503162209.04864.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> <200503162209.04864.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:16:37 -0000 > > flash-0.9.5 > > flashplugin-0.4.3 > > flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 > > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 > > flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12 > > flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 > > linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2 > > linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1 > > linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1 How did you use grep to display this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 09:45:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301FA16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:45:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web61002.mail.yahoo.com (web61002.mail.yahoo.com [216.155.196.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96B9843D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:45:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yance_kowara@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76103 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2005 09:45:19 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=S+UUPaZUjLs0FVJ6GI9i0cscN7pnhMQCGAFifsqloOEEJQj4dOOPP6wYk/PbH0I0zjN6X4gLsUDlKeNy2fnmBw4dFBocukckDpm5dbMPTD/7GqSuLvk7V4rAbZyqX/cY5J7LEaPUkZyieBepmB6hz/PmmZsvG2cdM6Img/VfRg4= ; Message-ID: <20050317094519.76101.qmail@web61002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.217.21.131] by web61002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:45:18 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 01:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: Yance Kowara To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: DSL LAN Sharing with FreeBSD-5.3+natd+ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:45:20 -0000 I had a similar setup http://members.iinet.net.au/~yance/pppoenat.html in rc.conf where you put gateway_enable="YES" this will appear 00100 28 2096 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 You can add extra ipfw config using a script similar to mine, and in rc.conf firewall_script="path/to/your/firewallscript" I hope it helps. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 10:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E8C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7A443D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so477848rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:19:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oNy2nXbsh2sOtLOGydSxxdW+9J4sT5Hg5vnuMmStj2ScmNln7K2yHtYV3hxpbYNnjORo/5eEba7SD9VVzIqZonxmKiSbbupCKstOFj2ENr6/DPu18DYfXIWOSCDx3dgDMcMlDtP6+kfnFe11Fa9OiH3JE7wcKa3a25pbrwUk2rs= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr1361771rnb; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 02:19:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:19:38 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: RW In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4237908C.8060702@vilot.com> <200503162209.04864.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash plugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:19:39 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:36 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > flash-0.9.5 > > > flashplugin-0.4.3 > > > flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 > > > flashplugin-mozilla-0.4.12 > > > flashplugin-mozilla-devel-0.4.12 > > > flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 > > > linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_2 > > > linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25_1 > > > linuxpluginwrapper-20050119_1 > > How did you use grep to display this ? > never mind i thought there was some fancy grep option that scanned all ports :) I# ls | grep flash dummyflash flashplugin flashplugin-firefox flashplugin-mozilla flashplugin-mozilla-devel flashpluginwrapper linux-flashplugin linux-flashplugin6 linux-flashplugin7 I# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 10:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D4916A4D4 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hp2.euro.net.mk (hp2.euro.net.mk [212.110.94.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E894943D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@euro.net.mk) Received: from [212.110.94.68] by hp2.euronet.com.mk (NTMail 7.00.0018/SG1971.09.57a4aa33) with ESMTP id wfhsuaaa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:46:56 +0100 Message-ID: <42396009.1080108@euro.net.mk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:46:33 +0100 From: Perica Veljanovski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VSMLoop: euronet.com.mk Subject: dual boot two disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:46:48 -0000 Hi I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first 10G. When I boot the system I get: F1 FreeBSD (the fbsd on ad0s1) F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2) F5 Other (again the fbsd) So there is no option to boot from the second disk!? Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the mbr on ad2. I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot menu? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 12:13:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E209B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:13:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5AE43D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:13:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so505558rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:13:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oj0aX3FDtffjtKPn8wdX3CPaLjr0X70Sa/m+6j2wGn5nrnnIt+Bj4MEKo5ht6bySUfysn89RMyhUPs5ikOjUPvOwyCI/iryfDAxTmLZJ8E0dEim+lwa5OW2AtJ7HHKy6WvOB0+SBUImNeN0VS1JzJjJGq++4N7CtxXZmhQPaWSY= Received: by 10.38.6.72 with SMTP id 72mr1407716rnf; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:13:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:13:10 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: nNCL:registering deferred (0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:13:12 -0000 I wanted to reinstall mozilla but this time with the mail thingie enabled. I did make config make deinstall make reinstall but it get stuck doing nothing at the end saying nNCL:registering deferred (0) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 12:27:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F8016A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:27:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-3-0-cust94.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [213.107.104.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7733043D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DBu5Z-0004jF-FC; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:26:57 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:26:57 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel Bye Message-ID: <20050317122657.GA17218@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel Bye References: <20050315113702.GA46171@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <200503170207.12409@harrymail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503170207.12409@harrymail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Serial console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:27:00 -0000 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 02:07:07AM +0100, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Dienstag, 15. M?rz 2005 12:37 schrieb Daniel Bye: > [...] > > The machine boots - you see the BIOS POST, the SATA controller comes up, > > then you see FreeBSD's boot messages on the console. As soon as the > > kernel launches, we get the login: prompt and then nothing. So, we know > > the hardware works; the problem is something I am doing with the kernel > > config. As I said, this setup is the same as a machine running the same > > hardware, that is known to be working. >=20 > If I understand it correctly you see the kernel probing, any you also see= that=20 > a getty gets started at ttyd0 but you can't type (and see the echo) anyth= ing,=20 > right? Yes, this is the case. We see the same lack of responsiveness to the keyboard during the loader, as well; I guess this points to a problem with the cabling. > Maybe it's your terminal connection (null-modem I guess). Sorry - yes, we are using a Cisco console server. And thinking about it now, I seem to recall that a few months ago we discovered one of the lines on the octopus was dodgy. I wonder... > Make sure to measure 0Ohm between pin 1 and 6 (DSR-DCD) on the DTE (compu= ter). > That's my only guess. Everything elese seems to be fine... Thanks for the nudge. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3B9D 8BBB EB03 BA83 5DB4 3B88 86FC F03A 90A1 BE8F _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCOXeRhvzwOpChvo8RAugyAKDm+6M/8rTxoRwx1p+QnUX3w5dg2wCfevfx 9Vf2JvzroV/WTDiiOYHvSHA= =NNyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 13:34:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ED116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:34:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8811243D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so459822rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:34:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dD/cUN4FEq6N4xH9UI/2PWvW/rr55mq/kdKx8ODeafBWqCQEOLhNvcwEKycPWv3iVc6M2mELzP3iw3bSZaesXM5g/SnibOey9EicJbOJds0aATjfukfrDJroI22/x6fuRhz9eXB1u+gJVm2sO7tDmy5K9tQ0EVrGYgq4xRKoai4= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr1268010rng; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:34:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:34:33 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:34:34 -0000 Hi list, my computer is not part of a domain, and so I had set my hostname to . Now I changed it in rc.conf to : ~> cat /etc/rc.conf | grep hostname hostname="" ~> I rebooted, but my pc is still somewhere configured to be called . First of all, when the pc boots, I see this in dmesg: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar 9 15:40:46 UTC 2005 @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my /var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start: [Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname("") My question is: how can I change my hostname to safely, in a way that the is not used anymore in any part of the OS? Thank you! -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 13:53:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F06C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:53:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts7.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126143D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from interpool.homeunix.com ([69.158.188.170]) by simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050317135339.UHOR1621.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@interpool.homeunix.com>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:53:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:53:50 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: "Michael C. Shultz" Message-Id: <20050317085350.5f76c34c.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: <200503161930.04755.ringworm01@gmail.com> References: <20050316222527.3c9bb015.lists@interpool.ca> <200503161930.04755.ringworm01@gmail.com> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages: Updating problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:53:45 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:30:04 -0800 "Michael C. Shultz" wrote: >> Do I need to cvsup again and try the above 4 programs again? or do I >> need to capture the text where they bomb and submit to the ports' >> responsible person? > >Gerry, give portmanager a try. It should straighten out the >dependencies for you and rebuild everthing via ports. Hi Mike. I've seen you promoting portmanager and it looks like a fine product! Keep up the good work. After letting portmanager loose overnight, it came up with this summary: status report finished ======================================================================== percentDone-=>35 = 100 - ( 100 * ( QTY_outOfDatePortsDb-=>11 / TOTAL_outOfDatePortsDb-=>17 ) ) upgrade 0.2.9_3 info: ignoring arts-1.3.2,1, reason: failed during (2) make checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdelibs-3.3.2_2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdemultimedia-mpeglib_artsplug-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdegames-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdeedu-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdeartwork-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: koffice-1.3.5_1,1 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdebase-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first upgrade 0.2.9_3 info: ignoring gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0, reason: failed during (2) make checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdepim-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first checkForOldDepencies 0.2.9_3 skip: kdemultimedia-3.3.2 has a dependency arts-1.3.2,1 that needs to be updated first ------------------------------------------------------------------------ update of ports collection complete with either some errors, ignored ports or both ======================================================================== That's interesting, as there are now 11 ports that needs updating and I started out with 6. I assume it's corrected some versions of packages that installed complaining version "B" of X was installed when I had "A"? But it seems my biggest headache is getting arts to compile and install so the remaining ports can update afterwards. I'll go concentrate on that port specifically and then run portmanager again after I'm successful with arts [which could be today, tomorrow, next week, next month]. Regards, -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 13:58:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D1216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:58:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED21443D46 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:58:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shchoi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so172960wri for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jL8RhHxxse+bhqht4q5cHDvqmf5/o8CPOJQEHLkkbCc6kI6JYxxObXiv3f8RtMnN1LdzYgD8vSEGEbbHrDX0ZEQpn4zWC944b+nwN2Rv44YKImF+WScUCXg6DvQ1q6pe7TO3sfDn3ccA3eByH5Q9ju22SWPG6YGW0lRR44q7Zs0= Received: by 10.54.65.2 with SMTP id n2mr833852wra; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.8.52 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:58:29 +0000 From: Soo-Hyun Choi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soo-Hyun Choi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:58:30 -0000 Hi, I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE. My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/) Is 10G HDD space is not good enough? Soo-Hyun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:07:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA8916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:07:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248AF43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:06:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2HEBogp070196 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:11:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2HEBoqH070195 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:11:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:11:50 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050317141150.GA69967@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1783108411.20050313132006@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1783108411.20050313132006@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on ei.bzerk.org Subject: Re: Who is using ACLs in production? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:07:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 01:20:06PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski typed: > Anyone using ACLs in production on FreeBSD 5.x? If so, how do you use > them, and what are your impressions? How do they affect performance, > how reliable is the code, does it really help security, etc.? I installed many samba servers in small-to-medium sized offices. All have ACL's enabled and there have been no complaints about performance or stability. Which is understandable, regarding the fact these samba servers where mostly replacing NT or w2k fileservers on the same or equivalant hardware. Improved security I don't know. It does emulate windows' file permission quite nicely though. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 15:21:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6577116A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:21:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Phoenix.atnet.ru (Phoenix.atnet.ru [213.158.16.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F13A43D1F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:21:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sobscen@atnet.ru) Received: from zion.atnet.ru (Zion.atnet.ru [213.158.16.3]) j2GFL9hs024655 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:21:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: from name (sl-021248.dialup.atnet.ru [213.158.21.248]) by zion.atnet.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11/AtNET) with SMTP id j2GFL3Sd009049 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:21:04 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from sobscen@atnet.ru) From: popbox Message-ID: <000e01c52a3c$a3b0bb40$f8159ed5@name> To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:26:30 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/624/Thu Dec 9 22:01:06 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on 213.158.16.7 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/716/Sun Feb 20 17:40:34 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on zion.atnet.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:08:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Mounting DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:21:28 -0000 Russian (KOI8-R) =FA=C4=D2=C1=D7=D3=D4=D7=D5=CA=D4=C5. =F7 =D3=D0=D2=C1=D7=CF=DE=CE=C9=CB=C5 man, = =F2=D5=CB=CF=D7=CF=C4=D3=D4=D7=C5 FreeBSD =C9 =C4=D2=D5=C7=CF=CA = =C4=CF=CB=D5=CD=C5=CE=D4=C1=C3=C9=C9 =CE=C5=D4 = =CF=D4=C4=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF=CA =C9=CE=C6=CF=D2=CD=C1=C3=C9=C9 =CF =D4=CF=CD = =CB=C1=CB =CD=CF=CE=D4=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=D4=D8 DVD. = =ED=CF=CE=D4=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=D4=D8 =C5=C7=CF =D4=C1=CB =CB=C1=CB CD = =CE=C5 =D0=CF=CC=D5=DE=C1=C5=D4=D3=D1. =EE=C1=D0=D2=C9=CD=C5=D2, =CD=CF=C9 =D7=C1=D2=C9=C1=CE=D4=D9: 1) #mount /cdrom cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument 2) #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument =ED=CF=D1 =EF=F3: FreeBSD 4.10 =ED=CE=CF=C0 =D3=CB=CF=CD=D0=C9=CC=C9=D2=CF=D7=C1=CE=CF =D1=C4=D2=CF =D3 = =D0=CF=C4=C4=C5=D2=D6=CB=CF=CA ATAPI/CAM, =C1 =D4=C1=CB=D6=C5 = =C4=CF=C2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE DMA =C4=CF=D3=D4=D5=D0 =CB = =D5=D3=D4=D2=CF=CA=D3=D4=D7=C1=CD ATAPI, =CB=C1=CB =DC=D4=CF = =D2=C5=CB=CF=CD=C5=CE=C4=CF=D7=C1=CE=CF =D7 =D2=C1=DA=C4=C5=CC=C5 = =F3=CF=DA=C4=C1=CE=C9=C5 =C9 =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=CE=C9=C5 = =CF=D0=D4=C9=DE=C5=D3=CB=C9=C8 =CE=CF=D3=C9=D4=C5=CC=C5=CA (DVD) = =D2=D5=CB=CF=D7=CF=C4=D3=D4=D7=C1 FreeBSD. dmesg =D7=D9=D7=CF=C4: acd0: DVD-ROM at = ata1-master UDMA33 =E4=C9=D3=CB=C9 =D3=CF=C4=C5=D2=D6=C1=D4 "=EB=CF=CC=CC=C5=CB=C3=C9=C0 = =D0=CF=D2=D4=CF=D7 FreeBSD" =CF=D4 =D7=C1=DB=C5=C7=CF = =D2=D5=D3=D3=CB=CF=C7=CF = =D2=C1=D3=D0=D2=CF=D3=D4=D2=C1=CE=C9=D4=C5=CC=D1 LinuxCenter.ru, = =CE=C1=C8=CF=C4=D1=D4=D3=D1 =D7 =C8=CF=D2=CF=DB=C5=CD = =D3=CF=D3=D4=CF=D1=CE=C9=C9 =C9 =DE=C9=D4=C1=C0=D4=D3=D1 =D0=CF=C4 = Windows 98. English Hello. There is no separated information about mounting DVD in manual man, = FreeBSD Handbook and other documentation. Mounting it such as CD not = gives result. For example, my variant: 1) #mount /cdrom cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument 2) #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument =20 My OS: FreeBSD 4.10 I compiled kernel with ATAPI/CAM support, and added DMA access for ATAPI = devices, as it recommended in section Creating and Using Optical Media = (DVDs) of FreeBSD Handbook. dmesg output: acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master = UDMA33 There is "FreeBSD ports collection" on the disks, from your russian = diller LinuxCenter.ru. Discs are valid and works under Windows 98.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 16 18:22:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DCF16A4CF for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:22:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tut.by (speedy.tutby.com [195.209.41.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628D43D2F for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:22:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from myst@tut.by) Received: from [213.184.242.153] (account myst@tut.by) by tut.by (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 26052524; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:22:00 +0200 From: Stas Myasnikov To: Boris Spirialitious X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:22:00 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050316174333.59956.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:08:29 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:22:02 -0000 Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:43:33 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious ïèñàë(à): >> When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have 4.9. >> is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. AFAIK FreeBSD4 isn't run on amd64 in 64-bit mode. Though 5 do. >> Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I Yes. Opteron backwards compatible with ia32. >> use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any Hmm... Intel making Opteron's? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DFF16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F0543D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HEBsb02806; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:11:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171411.j2HEBsb02806@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: FreeBSD@euro.net.mk (Perica Veljanovski) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:11:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <42396009.1080108@euro.net.mk> from "Perica Veljanovski" at Mar 17, 2005 11:46:33 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual boot two disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:12:26 -0000 > > Hi > > I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I > installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to > sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) > and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first > 10G. When I boot the system I get: > > F1 FreeBSD (the fbsd on ad0s1) > F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2) > F5 Other (again the fbsd) > > So there is no option to boot from the second disk!? > Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he > sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the > mbr on ad2. Hmmm. I am not exactly clear from your description, but... I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with a new menu that included the ad2 disk. Maybe that disk does not really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]). I believe each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors) also needs to have an MBR for it to work right. If you are brave, try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well. I don't think that would mess up anything and might be what is missing. Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2 I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0. You may have to check that. ////jerry > > I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! > how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot > menu? I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically the same for what you are trying to do here. Something like: boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2 You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever was in the sector0 before the command. You can put it back if you need. You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf depending on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable. I think it is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those. You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more stuff when it runs. You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 as well. By the way, what happened to ad1? (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI so, I am not up on its device naming schemes) Good luck, ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:20:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EFE16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:20:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E3C43D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:20:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so541779rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:20:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lxdeXmAdHbN1ZbcmGhE296XB32VIqWI9R3Zu2XwBMFKoU1iCCzPvWMcKemwyZ1h3u9+3bvX0rDO2sRGb5RuaoejQEF9yJtbzJ2srbEQZUdHQdsMeXQs5zHcr875TwGyUqRXd2U/8nYfM2WnV7RgrDA2BtsNXhddFP9B9zc/O3Fc= Received: by 10.38.6.72 with SMTP id 72mr1491488rnf; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:20:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:20:44 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: popbox In-Reply-To: <000e01c52a3c$a3b0bb40$f8159ed5@name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000e01c52a3c$a3b0bb40$f8159ed5@name> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mounting DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:20:46 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:26:30 +0300, popbox wrote: > > English > Hello. Hello, > There is no separated information about mounting DVD in manual man, FreeBSD Handbook and other documentation. Mounting it such as CD not gives result. I don't know if there are any differences between FBSD-4.10 and FBSD-5.4-PRE regarding this, but: # mount /cdrom/ # ls /cdrom/ audio_ts video_ts and # cat /etc/fstab | grep cdrom /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Hope this helps. -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:23:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9124C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B8643D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HENk202905; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:23:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171423.j2HENk202905@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: evergreenicecream@comcast.net (CARRIE WUERFEL) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:23:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <000201c52ab8$8bfeae40$6500a8c0@hsd1.wa.comcast.net> from "CARRIE WUERFEL" at Mar 16, 2005 10:14:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:48 -0000 > > I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop Pentium 3 1ghrtz with 512mb ram. I recently dusted off a old hard drive that contains a whole 2 gigs of hard drive space. I have installed the hard disk drive and am wanting to install "FreeBsd" on it. Before I go about mucking things up, I just wanted to make sure that when I go to install FreeBsd it will not mess up the existing hard drive. I have business and payroll progs on it. I am also wondering if when installing there is an actual question asked by the installation prog for destination. Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and I swear I read through your installation info until my eyes dried out and couldn't find the answers, so that is why I am bothering you. I did try to find the answer first. Anyways any help would be cool as I would really like to start relearning another operating system. If you do the install on the new old drive, it will not muck with the MS drive other than to write the MBR to make it know how to boot the FreeBSd drive. Now, of course, you could squeeze the MS junk down and install FreeBSD in a separate slice on the same drive as the MS junk. But, that is a different story. ////jerry > > Andy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:47:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:47:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A2143D66 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:47:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI001ME3RTUM13@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:47:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 715382CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:47:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:47:49 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> To: Soo-Hyun Choi Message-id: <200503170647.50339.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:47:56 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:58 am, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal > installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full > X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE. > > My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The > FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to > upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some > point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the > recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/) > > Is 10G HDD space is not good enough? > > Soo-Hyun The work areas are probably whats killing you. I don't know how you can manage them with the upgrade shell script, you will have to look through the script to determine that. Somehow or another you need to make sure after each port is updated its work area is being cleaned before moving on to the next port. One thing you may want to consider is setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp in /etc/make.conf this way you can monitor the size of /tmp with du and then maybe manually delete the work areas of ports you are certain have been updated. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:50:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9A316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts8.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D9B43D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:50:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from interpool.homeunix.com ([69.158.188.170]) by simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050317145048.YIGB1623.simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@interpool.homeunix.com> for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:50:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:51:00 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20050317095100.71e8a343.lists@interpool.ca> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:50:50 -0000 I've been using Sharity Light to access open shares on my Windoze machine from FreeBSD. But somewhere along the line I know this is now built-in to FreeBSD but I can't remember or find what program to use to do this and I would prefer not to rely on a port to make this happen. Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use? Thanks. -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:55:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA3D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:55:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AF143D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:55:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DBwPX-0007Nv-6q; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:55:43 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:55:44 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050317095100.71e8a343.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: <20050317095100.71e8a343.lists@interpool.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503170855.44211.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc7641f680b2e08064abc78557822526bd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Gerry Freymann Subject: Re: Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:55:44 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:51 am, Gerry Freymann wrote: > I've been using Sharity Light to access open shares on my Windoze > machine from FreeBSD. > > But somewhere along the line I know this is now built-in to FreeBSD > but I can't remember or find what program to use to do this and I > would prefer not to rely on a port to make this happen. > > Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use? > > Thanks. > -gerry I think you're looking for smbfs. I tried it long time ago; but went back to Sharity Light. Best regards, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 14:58:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3084916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:58:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF1B543D58 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:58:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45338 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2005 14:58:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20050317145846.45336.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:58:46 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Matthew Seaman , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:58:47 -0000 --- Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris > Spirialitious wrote: > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > 4.9. > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came > in with 5.x, so > you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release > version. > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > big problems? > > You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- > but what would be > the point? All you get then is a machine that costs > more than an > equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs > worse. That is very curious to say. Isn't the advantage of Opteron the superior IO architecture? There is not much advantage with 64 bit computing. What is faster about it? Pointers are bigger, so it use more cache for less. NOt much 64bit math in OS. Why do you say it will perform worse? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:04:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9034843D46 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so6971rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:04:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Bu6R2RmhAjowp55y0Hmc2Nc72c4dl8hCEuRvgkarCVIZwYGdydaorSIas7pzCteSbwC5Cvkw77VWlxGvRQKXo+StTGcgF+9Vhz1g6eFNFPARzFFKnKodakkRaLmwXRKYrTHGDvqjusa1itw1MXLsAumSRZo3g0yXTNhPDP+//yY= Received: by 10.38.162.43 with SMTP id k43mr1520875rne; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:04:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:45 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44oedixquh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <44oedixquh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:50 -0000 On 17 Mar 2005 09:57:26 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Pietro Cerutti writes: > > > Hi list, > > my computer is not part of a domain, and so I had set my hostname to > > . > > Now I changed it in rc.conf to : > > > > ~> cat /etc/rc.conf | grep hostname > > hostname="" > > ~> > > > > I rebooted, but my pc is still somewhere configured to be called . > > First of all, when the pc boots, I see this in dmesg: > > > > FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar 9 15:40:46 UTC 2005 > > @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR > > That's not a problem; all it means is that's who built the kernel. It > doesn't get used for *anything* other than printing that message. > > > Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my > > /var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start: > > > > [Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to > > gethostbyname("") > > You must have put the old hostname into Apache's configuration > explicitly. You will need to change it by hand. The configuration > file is (by default, as installed from the port) > /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf. No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't find anything concerning my . I even deinstalled & deleted the configuration files & reinstalled apache. Don't forget this: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar 9 15:40:46 UTC 2005 @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR Here I have my too. > > > > > My question is: how can I change my hostname to safely, > > in a way that the is not used anymore in any part of > > the OS? > > Changing rc.conf is enough for anything that was configured > automatically. It should be so, but it actually isn't. If you changed some other configuration by hand, you > will need to change it again by hand. Note that if you had not added > your hostname to httpd.conf, Apache would have used the system > hostname by default (I believe; I haven't actually checked this > recently). I'm sure I didn't set my anywhere else than in rc.conf > > Be well. > However, thank you for your advice, but it didn't solve my problem... -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:05:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D135516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hp2.euro.net.mk (hp2.euro.net.mk [212.110.94.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710E43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:05:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@euro.net.mk) Received: from [212.110.94.68] by hp2.euronet.com.mk (NTMail 7.00.0018/SG1971.09.57a4aa33) with ESMTP id xkksuaaa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:05:19 +0100 Message-ID: <42399C85.9000000@euro.net.mk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:04:37 +0100 From: Perica Veljanovski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200503171411.j2HEBsb02806@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200503171411.j2HEBsb02806@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VSMLoop: euronet.com.mk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual boot two disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:05:15 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>Hi >> >>I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I >>installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to >>sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) >>and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first >>10G. When I boot the system I get: >> >>F1 FreeBSD (the fbsd on ad0s1) >>F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2) >>F5 Other (again the fbsd) >> >>So there is no option to boot from the second disk!? >>Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he >>sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the >>mbr on ad2. >> >> > >Hmmm. I am not exactly clear from your description, but... > >I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with >a new menu that included the ad2 disk. Maybe that disk does not >really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of >the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]). I believe >each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors) >also needs to have an MBR for it to work right. If you are brave, >try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well. I don't think >that would mess up anything and might be what is missing. > >Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2 > >I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0. >You may have to check that. > >////jerry > > > That's what I thought. F5 should move on to the next disk, or more precise the next disk's mbr. But it does not. Anyways, the second disk has a MBR on it. As I said, when I unplug the fist dis and boot the box with the old disk (second disk) only, I get a normal boot menu from Widows XP (which has it's own boot loader = WinXP and Win2k Pro). So the problem is not that the second disk has bad or no MBR, rather that FreeBSD's boot manager "boot0" doesn't give me a chance to boot from the second disk. I thought about overwriting the mbr on the second disk (ad2), but I don't feel very brave :P I think that will most defenetly remove WinXP boot manager and probably remove some partitioning info, thus I'll loose the data. And since I'm not familiar with WinXP boot process, and don't know if FreeBSD's boot manager will pick up where WinXP/MBR left off, I rather not do that without any assurance. >>I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! >>how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot >>menu? >> >> > >I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically >the same for what you are trying to do here. > >Something like: boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2 > >You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever >was in the sector0 before the command. You can put it back if you need. > >You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf depending >on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable. I think it >is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those. > >You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more >stuff when it runs. > >You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 >as well. > > > I got that part :P What I didn't understand is how the hell I'm I suppose to let him know about the other disk :) >By the way, what happened to ad1? (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI >so, I am not up on its device naming schemes) > >Good luck, > >////jerry > > > BIOS names disks as hdN, and bsd as adN (as you already know). The main difference is that BIOS just increments N for the next disk (example: pri/master=hd0, pri/slave=cdrom, sec/master=hd1) and fbsd decides N by IDE position (example: pri/master=ad0, pri/slave=acd0, sec/master=ad2) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:07:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7688916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:07:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08AB43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA31DC627B4 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:07:49 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: Y8Nw1lidE9Lg5XF2SCshMA 1111072068 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-77-218.access.as9105.com [80.41.77.218]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B3570159 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:07:46 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:07:44 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> In-Reply-To: <200503131647.17449.luyt@ovosoft.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503171507.45437.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:07:51 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 15:47, Luyt wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:06, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world > > What is the daemon doing to that funny penguin? > > http://gbraad.spotsnel.nl/images/takeittux.png LOL, that would make a great "FreeBSD inside" sticker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:17:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AD816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts12.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFEE43D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from interpool.homeunix.com ([69.158.188.170]) by simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050317151750.NYQO1542.simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@interpool.homeunix.com>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:17:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:18:01 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: Lowell Gilbert Message-Id: <20050317101801.0a6c8407.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: <44sm2uxr1s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20050317095100.71e8a343.lists@interpool.ca> <44sm2uxr1s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Alternative to Sharity Light in the base system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:17:52 -0000 On 17 Mar 2005 09:53:03 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Does anybody know off hand what is now in the base system I can use? > >mount_smbfs(8) Beauties! Exactly what I was after. Got it mounted and working fine. -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:21:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43AF16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:21:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F83F43D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:21:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00D865BQD5T0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:21:27 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EBB132CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:21:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:21:24 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503170721.25156.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:21:29 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > hello > > i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > > 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional > 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world > 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > they laugh and go: > > "is THAT your supersystem? blah" > > somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? > i don't want anything to do with it. > > thanks, > -- fafa Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS. Try out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly "PC". -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:31:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08C316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:31:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A0A43D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:31:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6515660E8; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:31:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76521-10; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:31:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C1CB60DB; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:31:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0677160D4; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:31:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:31:10 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: "Michael C. Shultz" In-Reply-To: <200503170721.25156.ringworm01@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050317092854.F76737@makeworld.com> References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170721.25156.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:31:14 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >> hello >> >> i find that loader prompt very frustrating: >> >> 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional As opposed to? The multi-colored Windows? The Penguin? The Blowfish? >> 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world I highly doubt that one... >> 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, >> they laugh and go: >> >> "is THAT your supersystem? blah" Then change your friends... Seems like they may be a bit on the immature side. >> somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? >> i don't want anything to do with it. >> >> thanks, >> -- fafa > > Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS. Try > out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly "PC". > > -Mike Either that or wait till 5.4 is out. I'm somewhat certain that the lil guy isnt in 6.0, and it may not be in 5.4 Just my few pennies woith Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:34:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A2316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:34:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4353443D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HFYCb05213; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:34:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael C. Shultz" , Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:34:03 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503170721.25156.ringworm01@gmail.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:34:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > Shultz > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:21 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS. Try > out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly "PC". > Mike, he said he didn't want to invite Evil into his world... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:38:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060FF16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7AE43D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HFcxb05243; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , "Lowell Gilbert" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:38:49 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal cc: FreeBSD Subject: RE: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:05 AM > To: Lowell Gilbert > Cc: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change > > No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't > find anything concerning my . > When apache starts up if it don't have your hostname set in it's config file then it issues a system call asking what the hostname for the IP address is that is on your host. whatever it gets back it then uses to setup a default website. If you change the name of your host in /etc.rc.conf then it better also have been changed in any DNS servers that your system is using. > > I'm sure I didn't set my anywhere else than in rc.conf > Did you check /etc/hosts Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:40:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EF116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE1643D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j2HFewp67583 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:40:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:40:58 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050317094058.B67554@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: Kylix or libborqt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:41:00 -0000 Hey, folks! At long last, I have found an Open Source data modelling tool! It is DBDesigner by fabFORCE.net (http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/) and it is pretty nice. I was able to connect to my MySQL database and suck in the entire schema! It didn't do the full E-R diagram because there wasn't enough information in the DD/DL, but it was a HUGE start. Unfortunately, I know that from running it under Windoze!!!! My problem is that, of course, it is only compiled for MS-Windows and Linux. That's OK, I have Linux compatibility installed so that I can run acroread. What makes matters worse is that it was built using something called Kylix by Borland (http://www.borland.com/kylix/). As such, it depends on a library called libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so. I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux applications on FreeBSD. I got acroread running because the packages did everything for me. So... 1) Do I need a Linux libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so, or a FreeBSD one? 2) Should I forget trying to run the darn thing in Linux mode and try to port it to FreeBSD, since it is open source? The biggest problem with porting it would probably be Kylix itself, which, while GPL, I haven't found the source. It must be quit extensive, because the download is 90.7 Mb and includes two high-performance C++ compilers. The Windows version came with whatever DLLs it needed, so I suspect you don't really have to go THAT far. I could use some advice, here. My goal is to get my database application up and running with some new features, and it has grown to the point that having a data modelling tool would be a tremendous help. On the other hand, I HATE having to use Windows to do it, and the irony of using a Windows application to develop a MySQl application is not lost on me. I would also like to see as many native FreeBSD ports as possible. I am standing at a fork in the road, but this fork has MANY tines. Anyone who can help me eliminate some of the choices, or even CLARIFY some of the choices, would be doing me a great service. Thank you! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:42:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1996516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B7143D5F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00G9U6AF8OB0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:42:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9159B2CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:42:11 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050317092854.F76737@makeworld.com> To: RacerX Message-id: <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050317092854.F76737@makeworld.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:19 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 07:31 am, you wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Sunday 13 March 2005 02:06 am, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >> hello > >> > >> i find that loader prompt very frustrating: > >> > >> 1. it is *VERY* unprofessional > > As opposed to? The multi-colored Windows? The Penguin? The Blowfish? > > >> 2. having that demon in there, it invites evil into my world > > I highly doubt that one... > > >> 3. it's bad for my image too, when other people see it, > >> they laugh and go: > >> > >> "is THAT your supersystem? blah" > > Then change your friends... Seems like they may be a bit on the > immature side. > > >> somebody please tell me, how do i remove it? > >> i don't want anything to do with it. > >> > >> thanks, > >> -- fafa > > > > Best way to remove the little fella it is to load a different OS. > > Try out Microsoft's products, they are supposedly "PC". > > > > -Mike > > Either that or wait till 5.4 is out. I'm somewhat certain that the > lil guy isnt in 6.0, and it may not be in 5.4 > > Just my few pennies woith > > Best regards, > > Chris adding my $0.02 to the pot I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't stick by it seams unwise. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:42:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5378E16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6D943D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pietro.cerutti@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so23056rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:42:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hdy+UeB03qfVDgdAbhUDAczBS13a5YmSLaPhMQdUVV8LTK9R7Vy9N8RSZjX3EEOlnNd+w+fEFs9kl2oiPbFmNLgqniFNSt3GdqJ4uS8WlRdp+Ta6nizDJtzDMTUdFX+9c2Dec6kd+RMcg5+dJYjsg8h9Sp1I6hwPQ0x7vZGuVuw= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr1573112rni; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:42:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.13.78 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:42:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:29 +0000 From: Pietro Cerutti To: FreeBSD , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pietro Cerutti List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:42:31 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:38:49 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:05 AM > > To: Lowell Gilbert > > Cc: FreeBSD > > Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change > > > > No, this is not the problem. I searched in httpd.conf but I didn't > > find anything concerning my . > > > > When apache starts up if it don't have your hostname set in it's > config file then it issues a system call asking what > the hostname for the IP address is that is on your host. > > whatever it gets back it then uses to setup a default website. If you > change the name of your host in /etc.rc.conf then it better also > have been changed in any DNS servers that your system is using. > > > > > I'm sure I didn't set my anywhere else than in rc.conf > > > > Did you check /etc/hosts > > > Ted > > Thanks Ted, Neo-Vortex and Eric. nothing found with grep on /etc/* , /usr/local/etc* , /var/named/* but I found this: # grep /var/* Binary file /var/db matches Binary file /var/mysql matches Binary file /var/restoresymtable matches # Well I double check once more on my system! Thank you! -- Pietro Cerutti Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:43:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423A516A4D2 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:43:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A010D43D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE215C61C0E; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:43:23 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: vgRe3SyIbinfg3QyL0Q06g 1111074203 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647A225599; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1DBx9Z-0001oA-JC; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:43:17 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:43:17 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" Message-ID: <20050317154317.GZ8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050316074108.GA18643@mccme.ru> <20050316160044.GS8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> <20050316170448.GA29054@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316170448.GA29054@mccme.ru> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3FDF A406 B149 3959 A8CB C5A9 3B46 4812 D852 7E49 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:43:26 -0000 --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:04:48PM +0300, Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:00:44AM -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > "=20 > " As another poster mentioned, the problem is likely related to DNS, and I > " have experienced it as well. If you are using Privilege Separation, > " then an sshd process will chroot itself into /var/empty before > " performing authentication. /var/empty is itself usually empty. One > " thing you can do is to make the dir /var/empty/etc and then drop a copy > " of your /etc/hosts file into the newly created /var/empty/etc/ > " directory. You might want to make sure that the hosts file contains a > " mapping to the LAN machines which you want to ssh from. > "=20 > " Keep in mind that /var/empty has the schg flag set, so you won't be able > " to copy anything to it without disabling this first. See more at `man > " chflags`. Try something like this: > "=20 > " # chflags -R noschg /var/empty > " # mkdir /var/empty/etc > " # cp /etc/hosts /var/empty/etc > " # chflags -R schg /var/empty > "=20 > " This will likely clear up your problem. > "=20 > " Nathan >=20 > Thank you, Nathan. Can I put soft link into /var/empty/etc (this > is crossdevice link, and I can't put hard link in it)? And does I > realy need -R key in last command which you recomended? This mean > that directory /var/empty/etc has schg flag too. Is it nessesery? =46rom `man sshd`: /var/empty chroot(2) directory used by sshd during privilege separation in the pre-authentication phase. The directory should not contain any files and must be owned by root and not group or world-writable. I assume you can follow these rules. The noschg flags may be something that the FreeBSD developers decided to do for added security, and I don't see any practical reason to alter it. Regarding soft/hard links in the chrooted dir, I don't know if that would work. I suspect no, as it would somewhat defeat the purpose of the chroot. Cross-device link error: hard links will only work within a single filesystem, not across multiple filesystems. Nathan --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCOaWVO0ZIEthSfkkRAjBoAKCKW3063BV/44vwm2K4jDKhxrJvxgCgy8ms TOrn97Z3JIRT3RIRh4LtiIw= =bSPK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lBP+FhBL9XXtPs84-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496E16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1539F43D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HFpxb05318; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" , "CARRIE WUERFEL" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:51:49 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503171423.j2HENk202905@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:51:54 -0000 Jerry, Well, of course it's going to "muck with the other drive" what do you think writing the MBR does? Do you want to risk the MS system not booting? 95% of the time it will work OK but what if her system is in that 5% of the time that it doesen't? You going to go over to her house and fix it? What if she's got some nutty drive program on there like diskmanager that neither of you know about that is already on the mbr? Carrie, PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C. If you install this other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system off drive D. You need to leave well enough alone. You can pick up older PC's for a song these days. If you have critical data on your Dell then don't screw with it. Find some other PC that someone's going to throw away and load FreeBSD on that. You don't even need a monitor for it, you can telnet/ssh into it from your Dell system easily. Dual-boot systems never work anyway. The operator always ends up spending 99% of their time in one operating system. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry > McAllister > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:24 AM > To: CARRIE WUERFEL > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive > > > > > > I am currently stuck running Windows Me on a Dell Desktop > Pentium 3 1ghrtz with 512mb ram. I recently dusted off a old > hard drive that contains a whole 2 gigs of hard drive space. > I have installed the hard disk drive and am wanting to install > "FreeBsd" on it. Before I go about mucking things up, I just > wanted to make sure that when I go to install FreeBsd it will > not mess up the existing hard drive. I have business and > payroll progs on it. I am also wondering if when installing > there is an actual question asked by the installation prog for > destination. Sorry to be asking a stupid question, and I > swear I read through your installation info until my eyes > dried out and couldn't find the answers, so that is why I am > bothering you. I did try to find the answer first. Anyways > any help would be cool as I would really like to start > relearning another operating system. > > If you do the install on the new old drive, it will not muck with > the MS drive other than to write the MBR to make it know how to > boot the FreeBSd drive. > > Now, of course, you could squeeze the MS junk down and install FreeBSD > in a separate slice on the same drive as the MS junk. But, that is > a different story. > > ////jerry > > > > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:53:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD6616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56CC43D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79452C629AB for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:52:59 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: QMzd4Qq0q6Gr8RkoyL1cEQ 1111074778 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-77-218.access.as9105.com [80.41.77.218]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C9756F785 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:52:58 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:55 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050315165022.34669.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <20050316200556.GA711@gravitas.thebunker.net> In-Reply-To: <20050316200556.GA711@gravitas.thebunker.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503171552.55660.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:01 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:05, Matthew Seaman wrote: > You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- but what would be > the point? All you get then is a machine that costs more than an > equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs worse. The core market for the AMD64 is 32-bit Windows XP desktop machines, and they are good value in that role. When I recently upgraded my PC, I noticed that a lot of retailers no-longer even have 32-bit AMD CPUs, except for low-speed Semperons. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BCB16A4CE; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B1943D58; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HFrQb05336; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:53:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Pietro Cerutti" , "FreeBSD" , Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:53:16 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: RE: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:53:22 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pietro Cerutti > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM > To: FreeBSD; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change > > > > Well I double check once more on my system! > Unless your system is the dns server you need to do as I suggested and fix the DNS!! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAED16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:55:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demon.noconname.org (19.Red-80-26-109.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.26.109.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868D043D55 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:55:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jncastellano@noconname.org) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [192.168.0.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by demon.noconname.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DA235FC; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:52:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4239A862.80709@noconname.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:55:14 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Nicol=E1s_Castellano?= Organization: No cON Name User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pietro Cerutti , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010004000508080506040901" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: problem due to hostname change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jncastellano@noconname.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:55:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010004000508080506040901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pietro Cerutti wrote: >FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10: Wed Mar 9 15:40:46 UTC 2005 > @:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GAHR > > This is the name of name and hostname who compiles FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #10 Kernel Don't Worry about this. >Then, when I try to start apache, I see this in my >/var/log/httpd-error.log, and apache won't start: > >[Thu Mar 17 13:29:11 2005] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to >gethostbyname("") > > /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf : modify Servername clause to your hostname to fix this error >My question is: how can I change my hostname to safely, >in a way that the is not used anymore in any part of >the OS? > > /etc/rc.conf : add line : hostname="your_hostname" Simply -- Jose Nicolas Castellano Presidente - Asociación No cON Name Tel: +34 616 727 675 E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org WWW: www.noconname.org --------------010004000508080506040901-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:57:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208C116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:57:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86F5A43D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 16662 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2005 15:57:32 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 15:57:32 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id D787A6634; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:57:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:57:31 -0600 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050317155731.GA47387@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: SMART and bad block list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:57:34 -0000 On SCSI drives one could look at the bad block lists to see if it was growing to know if a drive was getting sick. In the wee hours of the morning one of my Hitachi HDS722516VLSA80's got sick: Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=282857146 Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: subdisk vinum0.p0.s0 state change: up -> down Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: plex vinum0.p0 state change: up -> down "atacontrol info" says SMART is enabled. So what does this do for me? Has the drive exhausted its supply spare blocks and can no longer repair itself? While we are at it, the size of an LBA is 512 bytes? Putting the problem block above at about 144G? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 15:58:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E6516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:58:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demon.noconname.org (19.Red-80-26-109.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.26.109.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD3343D49 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jncastellano@noconname.org) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [192.168.0.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by demon.noconname.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16292368D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:55:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4239A91C.6040903@noconname.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:58:20 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Nicol=E1s_Castellano?= Organization: No cON Name User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000809060004090501010307" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Problems : make buildworld or make -DNOCLEAN buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jncastellano@noconname.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:58:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000809060004090501010307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I update to the last cvs RELENG_5_3 and i tryed to: /usr/src# make buildworld and /usr/src# make -DNOCLEAN buildworld and... ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libtxi ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/info ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/infokey ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/texindex ===> gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/doc ===> rescue cd: can't cd to /usr/src/rescue *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. What's wrong? -- Jose Nicolas Castellano Presidente - Asociación No cON Name Tel: +34 616 727 675 E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org WWW: www.noconname.org --------------000809060004090501010307-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:02:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0F916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:02:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD2E43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HG27b05407; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:02:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael C. Shultz" , "RacerX" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:01:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:02:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > Shultz > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM > To: RacerX > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > adding my $0.02 to the pot > > I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > stick by it seams unwise. > It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core members that have sticks up their ass about this issue. The rest of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor on this issue. The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to bother to spend time on a logo change or not? If the 1 or 2 core members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents. What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going to see beastie used at most other places. It will simply present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all. Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:03:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9804216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:03:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7D943D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:03:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HG3jI03524; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:03:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171603.j2HG3jI03524@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tedm@toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:03:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Ted Mittelstaedt" at Mar 17, 2005 07:51:49 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: CARRIE WUERFEL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:03:58 -0000 > > Jerry, > > Well, of course it's going to "muck with the other drive" what > do you think writing the MBR does? Do you want to risk the MS system > not booting? 95% of the time it will work OK but what if her system > is in that 5% of the time that it doesen't? You going to go > over to her house and fix it? What if she's got some nutty drive > program on there like diskmanager that neither of you know about that > is already on the mbr? Well, that is true. That is what I said - except for writing the MBR, which is mucking with that other drive, but not installing other stuff over the top of things. I don't know about those percentages. I have never run in to that situation and had it fail. Make sure you copy all impossible to replace files before doing anything like that anyway. So, where does Carrie live? Can I drive there? > Carrie, > > PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C. If you install this > other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going > to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots > it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system > off drive D. Yup. > You need to leave well enough alone. You can pick up older PC's for a > song > these days. If you have critical data on your Dell then don't > screw with it. Find some other PC that someone's going to throw away > and load FreeBSD on that. You don't even need a monitor for it, you > can telnet/ssh into it from your Dell system easily. Sure, if you have that opportunity. But, I'd rather reboot and have use of a decently fast recent machine than consign myself to an old slow clunker for one or the other systems. > > Dual-boot systems never work anyway. The operator always ends up > spending 99% of their time in one operating system. Well, if you get used to FreeBSD, probably you will stick with that most of the time to get any work done. But, I find on this machine, I use both of the OSen pretty much every day. That is mostly because I have to interact with people who need things in MS. But, dual boot does work and work quite well, actually. ////jerry > > Ted > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:08:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F186016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:08:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C2343D5D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:08:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:12:02 -0600 Message-ID: <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:08:45 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Shultz" References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050317092854.F76737@makeworld.com> <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 16:12:02.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E3ABEA0:01C52B0C] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:08:48 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >adding my $0.02 to the pot > >I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than >to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes >AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't >stick by it seams unwise. > >-Mike > > For what values of "it"? FreeBSD is an operating system, not a logo. Most people's decision to use the OS aren't based on its mascot, I would hope. FBSD has close ties with the "Beastie" artwork, to be sure; but saying that the "designers won't stick by it" when referring to artwork (rather than a "work of art" --- that is, the system itself) is a emotionally biased statement. Not that such is inappropriate, but to contend that FreeBSD isn't worthy to use because of contention over "marketing" type issues also *seems* unwise.... KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:16:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B768B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CCD43D73 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:16:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:20:13 -0600 Message-ID: <4239AD77.9080201@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:55 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soo-Hyun Choi References: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 16:20:13.0886 (UTC) FILETIME=[32EC8DE0:01C52B0D] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:16:57 -0000 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: >Hi, > >I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal >installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full >X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE. > >My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The >FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to >upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some >point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the >recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/) > >Is 10G HDD space is not good enough? > >Soo-Hyun > > Well, it *should* be plenty. How did you partition the drive? Could you show us the output of "df", the output of "cat /etc/fstab", and give the text and context of the warning message you refer to? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:21:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361E616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:21:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4143D70 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johna9999@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so270448wri for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:21:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dI+8jpsULmJEeozLD0qhF0P1a7Ria5BX0LBlTj4aPh1W+cnB68QEIKZ+oQ32JfB0XfefLNdP1AKIy+TTp8BJT8GRr2U9ljMzzL2WrhBXVsJXfQy2Kev+rwEbnIZI2HSBEi854oLAHTNbFOHZBw+5nuc5pWVq0ccWMG5W0+VzX30= Received: by 10.54.25.32 with SMTP id 32mr2442820wry; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.66 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:21:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:21:44 -0500 From: "John A." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "John A." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:21:48 -0000 The system uses a standard installation. I have only configured the ethernet card with the proper ip address for the wireless side of the network. The windoze box is running M$ firewall, but it works fine and allows me to ping my gateway and the FBSD box. What concerns me at this point is the fact that tcpdump takes so long to respond. If I let it run, it will display a packet about one every 2 min. They seem to be in time order with timestamps only ms apart. Let me know if any other information will help. John A. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:16:51 +0200, abu khaled wrote: > > Well I am sure some one well help you if you provide more information > about your network configuration/firewall rules,etc... > > Do you have a firewall configured on the freebsd box/M$windoze? > > -- > Kind regards > Abu Khaled > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:24:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAD216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:24:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF38843D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:24:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HGNJV03641; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:23:19 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171623.j2HGNJV03641@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: FreeBSD@euro.net.mk (Perica Veljanovski) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:23:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <42399C85.9000000@euro.net.mk> from "Perica Veljanovski" at Mar 17, 2005 04:04:37 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual boot two disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:24:01 -0000 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >>Hi > >> > >>I have a problem booting the second disk with fbsd's boot manager. I > >>installed a new disk as pri/master (ad0) and moved my old disk to > >>sec/master (ad2). Then devided ad0 (40GB) with fbsd's fdisk in 10G (ufs) > >>and 30G (fat) and installed FreeBSD 5.3 with a boot manager on the first > >>10G. When I boot the system I get: > >> > >>F1 FreeBSD (the fbsd on ad0s1) > >>F2 DOS (the 30G fat, ad0s2) > >>F5 Other (again the fbsd) > >> > >>So there is no option to boot from the second disk!? > >>Allso when I unlplug ad0 or change the BIOS to boot from ad2 (hd1 as he > >>sees it), WinXP boots just fine, meaning, there is no problem with the > >>mbr on ad2. > > > >Hmmm. I am not exactly clear from your description, but... > > > >I would expect that when you hit F5, you would be presented with > >a new menu that included the ad2 disk. Maybe that disk does not > >really have an MBR, but only a boot block (the second part of > >the disk boot process [or third if you count BIOS]). I believe > >each disk that has bootable slices (which have boot blocks/sectors) > >also needs to have an MBR for it to work right. If you are brave, > >try using fdisk to write the MBR to ad2 as well. I don't think > >that would mess up anything and might be what is missing. > > > >Something like: fdisk -BI -b /boot/boot0 ad2 > > > >I don't know if FreeBSD 5.3 still keeps its MBR in /boot/boot0. > >You may have to check that. > > > >////jerry > > > That's what I thought. F5 should move on to the next disk, or more > precise the next disk's mbr. But it does not. > Anyways, the second disk has a MBR on it. As I said, when I unplug the > fist dis and boot the box with the old disk (second disk) only, I get a > normal boot menu from Widows XP (which has it's own boot loader = WinXP > and Win2k Pro). So the problem is not that the second disk has bad or no > MBR, rather that FreeBSD's boot manager "boot0" doesn't give me a chance > to boot from the second disk. > > I thought about overwriting the mbr on the second disk (ad2), but I > don't feel very brave :P I think that will most defenetly remove WinXP > boot manager and probably remove some partitioning info, thus I'll loose > the data. And since I'm not familiar with WinXP boot process, and don't > know if FreeBSD's boot manager will pick up where WinXP/MBR left off, I > rather not do that without any assurance. I think it would be OK. I don't think it will change the slicing info unless you tell it to. On any multi boot installs I have done, it has been smart enough to only change what it needed. But, it's your machine - doesn't harm me if it screws up, so... so it is up to you. Ted M seems to think there are some situations in which rewriting the MBR can screw things up. I haven't run in to one yet, but probably he knows of more such situations that I do. > > >>I read the man for boot0cfg, but I can't make heads or tails of ti!!! > >>how do I configure/install the boo0 to show the second disk ni the boot > >>menu? > > > >I generally use fdisk and not boot0cfg, but I think it is basically > >the same for what you are trying to do here. > > > >Something like: boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 -o packet ad2 > > > >You might want to add -f some_file_name if you want it to save whatever > >was in the sector0 before the command. You can put it back if you need. > > > >You may also need -m 0x1 or -m 0x3 or -m 0x7 or -m 0xf depending > >on if you have 1, 2, 3 or 4 slices actively bootable. I think it > >is supposed to figure it out, but if it doesn't, then try those. > > > >You migh also want to include the -v flag to make it print out more > >stuff when it runs. > > > >You might also want to do the exactly the same or the same fdisk to ad0 > >as well. > > > I got that part :P What I didn't understand is how the hell I'm I > suppose to let him know about the other disk :) I think it is supposed to figure it out itself by looking at which slices are marked active - eg bootable. The -m 0x3 etc marks them active. You can also tell it which is the default one or the active slices to boot from. If you have the -o packet option set, then it will automatically set the default to whatever you select and the next time that will be it if you don't select anything else in the time allowed (set by -t ticks). > > >By the way, what happened to ad1? (I don't muck with IDE - I have SCSI > >so, I am not up on its device naming schemes) > > > >Good luck, > > > >////jerry > > > BIOS names disks as hdN, and bsd as adN (as you already know). The main > difference is that BIOS just increments N for the next disk (example: > pri/master=hd0, pri/slave=cdrom, sec/master=hd1) and fbsd decides N by > IDE position (example: pri/master=ad0, pri/slave=acd0, sec/master=ad2) Sort of what I guessed. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:27:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A7716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4707A43D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00ACQ8ELRR60@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:27:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 811992CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:27:54 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> To: Kevin Kinsey Message-id: <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:27:58 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > >I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > >to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > >AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > >stick by it seams unwise. > > > >-Mike > > For what values of "it"? FreeBSD is an operating system, > not a logo. Most people's decision to use the OS aren't > based on its mascot, I would hope. If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? FreeBSD started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my opinion. If someone comes up with a better looking "beastie" that is fine, to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few people are offended shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 diversity. If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because that number offends some people. While your at it please remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now the Arabic fonts need tossing tool, just to be fair. -Mike > > FBSD has close ties with the "Beastie" artwork, to be sure; but > saying that the "designers won't stick by it" when referring > to artwork (rather than a "work of art" --- that is, the system > itself) is a emotionally biased statement. Not that such is > inappropriate, but to contend that FreeBSD isn't worthy to use > because of > contention over "marketing" type issues also *seems* unwise.... > > KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:29:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98FE16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:29:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B27743D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:29:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00DN48HFD4Z0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:29:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4472A2CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:29:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:29:38 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-id: <200503170829.38563.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:29:40 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > > Shultz > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM > > To: RacerX > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > > adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > > I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > > to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > > AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > > stick by it seams unwise. > > It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core > members that have sticks up their ass about this issue. The rest > of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor > on this issue. > > The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to > bother to spend time on a logo change or not? If the 1 or 2 core > members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably > isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work > to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents. > > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent > logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the > new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and > your going to see beastie used at most other places. It will simply > present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at > all. Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that > GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron. > > Ted We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to take pride in anything, and it shows. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:30:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A0A16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:30:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCD943D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:30:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DBxjm-0008F1-DP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:42 +0100 Received: from jrpenn.demon.co.uk ([194.222.241.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:42 +0100 Received: from jeff+list.news by jrpenn.demon.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jeff Penn Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050304062626.00aa8468@localhost> <20050304164136.GA1684@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050304173041.GA1314@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jrpenn.demon.co.uk User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf seems to start late? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:30:59 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko : >>>>Shouldn't PF start right after the interfaces come up? [...] > > Guys, didn't you forgot that pf sometimes uses resolver to lookup > hostnames present in pf.conf? What happens if it should resole hostnames > with local named? I noticed that openbsd does a two-stage startup if pf is enabled. Rc initially defines rules for lo0, & ssh/dns/icmp/ etc from any to any (also NFS if enabled). After the network is started these rules are replaced by loading pf.conf. Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:33:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5617416A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B888043D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2HGX4j4070573; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:33:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:33:04 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: David Kelly Message-ID: <20050317163304.GA87804@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050317155731.GA47387@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050317155731.GA47387@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMART and bad block list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:06 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 17), David Kelly said: > On SCSI drives one could look at the bad block lists to see if it was > growing to know if a drive was getting sick. In the wee hours of the > morning one of my Hitachi HDS722516VLSA80's got sick: > > Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=282857146 > Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out > Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: subdisk vinum0.p0.s0 state change: up -> down > Mar 17 03:04:39 Grumpy kernel: GEOM_VINUM: plex vinum0.p0 state change: up -> down > > "atacontrol info" says SMART is enabled. So what does this do for me? > Has the drive exhausted its supply spare blocks and can no longer > repair itself? Try the smartmontools port. I don't think it can read the bad-block list from ATA disks, but it will give you an errors detected/corrected summary. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:33:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD7816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D074C43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BCFC629AB for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:33:57 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 7gRgevbSgQbVqH+PlBDgvQ 1111077237 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-77-218.access.as9105.com [80.41.77.218]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97C625535 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:33:57 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> <4239AD77.9080201@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4239AD77.9080201@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503171633.51664.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:33:59 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 16:16, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal > >installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full > >X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE. > > > >My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The > >FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to > >upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some > >point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the > >recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/) > > > >Is 10G HDD space is not good enough? > > > >Soo-Hyun > > Well, it *should* be plenty. How did you partition the drive? > > Could you show us the output of "df", the output of > "cat /etc/fstab", and give the text and context of the > warning message you refer to? And take a look at du -hs /usr/ports/distfiles/ /usr/ports/packages You shouldn't really need any packages. And you can manage distfiles with portsclean (installed with portupgrade). Left unmanaged they can quickly mount up to several GB. A full set of up-to-date files for a desktop machine should take up about a 1 GB. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:43:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9920B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:43:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D6143D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:43:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HGhes03771; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171643.j2HGhes03771@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: ringworm01@gmail.com (Michael C. Shultz) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:43:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> from "Michael C. Shultz" at Mar 17, 2005 08:27:54 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:43:53 -0000 > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote: > > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > >adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > > > >I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > > >to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > > >AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > > >stick by it seams unwise. > > > > > >-Mike > > > > For what values of "it"? FreeBSD is an operating system, > > not a logo. Most people's decision to use the OS aren't > > based on its mascot, I would hope. > > If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? FreeBSD > started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my opinion. If > someone comes up with a better looking "beastie" that is fine, > to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few people are offended > shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 diversity. > > If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because > that number offends some people. While your at it please remove > gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study > software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no > need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also > piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now the Arabic fonts need > tossing tool, just to be fair. > > -Mike Oh, quit your whining. The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away. It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it. Since Kirk is very generous in his copyright terms (note, it is not owned by FreeBSD), people who enjoy it will continue to use it and make variations on it and have fun with it. People who enjoy whining about it will continue to enjoy whining about it. Such fun. There is nothing official about Beastie except that Kirk officially owns the copyright. You are making more of a religious issue out of it than even the flaming right wing fundamentalists. If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD. So what. Gee, maybe Kirk McKusick will design it. Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo so the mascot isn't threatened. ////jerry > > > > KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 16:57:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9432316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E7D43D49 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00GEK9RB8NJ0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:57:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AAB512CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:57:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:57:09 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <200503171643.j2HGhes03771@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503170857.09677.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <200503171643.j2HGhes03771@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:57:13 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:43 am, you wrote: > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:08 am, you wrote: > > > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > > >adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > > > > > >I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > > > >to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > > > >AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > > > >stick by it seams unwise. > > > > > > > >-Mike > > > > > > For what values of "it"? FreeBSD is an operating system, > > > not a logo. Most people's decision to use the OS aren't > > > based on its mascot, I would hope. > > > > If the logo is of no importance, then why did it ever exist? > > FreeBSD started with this logo and needs to stick by it in my > > opinion. If someone comes up with a better looking "beastie" that > > is fine, to arbitrally change it after 20 years because a few > > people are offended shows cowardness in the face of nearly 0 > > diversity. > > > > If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 > > because that number offends some people. While your at it please > > remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have > > bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross > > is illegal, no need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew > > fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now > > the Arabic fonts need tossing tool, just to be fair. > > > > -Mike > > Oh, quit your whining. You call it whining when I state a position that is contrary to your own? Be brave, make a counter point. People with no original ideas of their own result to insults. Surely you can rise above this sort of statement. [snipped the rest, after reading the insult lost interest in the remainer of your reply] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:04:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C602A16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amex.cox.smu.edu (amex.cox.smu.edu [129.119.81.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B6C43D5A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JimiT@mail.cox.smu.edu) Received: from exch4.cox.smu.edu (exch4.cox.smu.edu [129.119.81.26]) by amex.cox.smu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2HH1h4F000988 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:01:43 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:04:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Stupid ASCII loader prompt Thread-Index: AcUrDofK0xjgRNpOTKSdkhITkL4yRgAAOFjQ From: "Thompson, Jimi" To: Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:04:05 -0000 =20 > > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent logo > out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new logo > used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going to > see beastie used at most other places. It will simply present more=20 > confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all. Most=20 > likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for example=20 > uses multiple brands for the same iron. Personally, I find the suggestion that we remove the daemon as the logo to be religiously offensive. The gods of the old religion always become the evil of the new religion. If you're so worried about formulating a "poltically correct" response to the daemon, the be concerned about the politicial correctness of violing MY religious freedom. =20 Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing religious references UNTIL the point at which you go to remove references to their religion. If the logo was a cross, the christians would be irate about having it removed. If the logo was star of david, the jews would be irate about having it removed. If the logo was cresent moon, the islamic element would be irate about having it removed. However, each group would rejoice if another group's icon was removed as the logo. =20 People's arugments about what name you should call your god are the poorest excuse I've ever seen for most of the ills that befall humanity. Any right thinking individual realizes that 1) not everyone is going to agree with you and 2) true conversion does not come with the use of force. If your version of god is so totally awesome and your faith is so great in what you believe and you aren't afraid of being converted, why do you feel the need to try to supress everyone else? Now, from a marketing perspective, FreeBSD could do worse than Beastie. The fact that he is some what controversial generates a significant amount of publicity. Any marketing wonk will tell you that ANY publicity is good and free publicity is the best kind. 6 months later, people don't remember WHAT was said but they do recognize the name. All of it serves to build the brand. =20 I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are giving in to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves dominating everyone's ideas about religion. I would urge the FreeBSD community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious freedom for everyone. You have a right to your logo. It's been your logo for 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to make you change it. I'm not saying that they have to agree with you, but they don't have the right to force you to change. 2 cents, Jimi =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:09:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C39B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:09:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za (mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za [196.7.0.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D9B43D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from 196-47-6-89.access.uunet.co.za ([196.47.6.89] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1DByUb-00061V-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:09:05 +0200 Received: from pmx01.ournet.co.za ([198.19.0.73] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DByUX-000GUD-sl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:09:02 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=netphobia) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DByUX-000GU6-q2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:09:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:09:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: 192.168.1.10 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: newsyslog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:09:10 -0000 Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to get rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month? I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail... -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:13:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AEC16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:13:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5343D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00K84AIJ4DB0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:13:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 25EF12CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:13:30 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503170913.30752.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:13:36 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:04 am, Thompson, Jimi wrote: > > > > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent > > logo > > > > out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new > > logo > > > > used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going > > to > > > > see beastie used at most other places. It will simply present more > > confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all. Most > > likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for > > example uses multiple brands for the same iron. > > > > Personally, I find the suggestion that we remove the daemon as the > logo to be religiously offensive. The gods of the old religion > always become the evil of the new religion. If you're so worried > about formulating a "poltically correct" response to the daemon, the > be concerned about the politicial correctness of violing MY religious > freedom. > > Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing > religious references UNTIL the point at which you go to remove > references to their religion. If the logo was a cross, the > christians would be irate about having it removed. If the logo was > star of david, the jews would be irate about having it removed. If > the logo was cresent moon, the islamic element would be irate about > having it removed. However, each group would rejoice if another > group's icon was removed as the logo. > > People's arugments about what name you should call your god are the > poorest excuse I've ever seen for most of the ills that befall > humanity. Any right thinking individual realizes that 1) not everyone > is going to agree with you and 2) true conversion does not come with > the use of force. If your version of god is so totally awesome and > your faith is so great in what you believe and you aren't afraid of > being converted, why do you feel the need to try to supress everyone > else? > > Now, from a marketing perspective, FreeBSD could do worse than > Beastie. The fact that he is some what controversial generates a > significant amount of publicity. Any marketing wonk will tell you > that ANY publicity is good and free publicity is the best kind. 6 > months later, people don't remember WHAT was said but they do > recognize the name. All of it serves to build the brand. > > I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are giving > in to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves > dominating everyone's ideas about religion. I would urge the FreeBSD > community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious > freedom for everyone. You have a right to your logo. It's been your > logo for 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to > make you change it. I'm not saying that they have to agree with you, > but they don't have the right to force you to change. > > 2 cents, > > Jimi Right on Jimi! -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:20:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A0116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B969043D46 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2HHKeCp028414; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:20:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:20:40 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20050317172040.GA18079@dan.emsphone.com> References: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:20:41 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 17), Chris Knipe said: > Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to > get rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month? > > I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail... If you drop the @, that would rotate on the 18th day of every month. Try (from the manpage): $M1D0 rotate at the first day of every month at midnight (i.e., the start of the day; same as @01T00) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCD816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87F43D54 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:30:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nkinkade@fastmail.fm) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A85C62786; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:30:26 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: C7Dj/s1A7jgsbZB+Kfs8jQ 1111080626 Received: from gentoo-npk.bmp.ub (unknown [206.27.244.136]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CEB26A03; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nkinkade by gentoo-npk.bmp.ub with local (Exim 4.21) id 1DBypB-0001sF-51; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:30:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:30:21 -0600 From: Nathan Kinkade To: Chris Knipe Message-ID: <20050317173021.GD8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Knipe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7HhoQoqNsng1reXT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3FDF A406 B149 3959 A8CB C5A9 3B46 4812 D852 7E49 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nathan Kinkade List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:30:28 -0000 --7HhoQoqNsng1reXT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:09:06PM +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: > Can anyone perhaps just give me a sample for 'when' in newsyslog.conf to= =20 > get rotation to rotate at 00:00 on the 1st of the month? >=20 > I tried '@$M18D0' to no evail... >=20 > -- > Chris.=20 =46rom the syslog manpage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ $M1D0 rotate at the first day of every month at midnight (i.e., the start of the day; same as @01T00) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Have you already tried this? Nathan --7HhoQoqNsng1reXT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCOb6tO0ZIEthSfkkRAn7jAJ9LUe6sp75XLlQTERNNCl7nX4Fg9QCgqTzw TfRzkJoPHc0AfGR+jUCnTXk= =idIe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7HhoQoqNsng1reXT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:42:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEBE16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6790943D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D514AC3C; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:42:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:43:13 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050317174313.GA11557@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170742.12447.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4239AB8D.1080108@daleco.biz> <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:54 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:27:54AM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 because > that number offends some people. While your at it please remove > gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have bible study > software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross is illegal, no > need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew fonts? Do they also > piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now the Arabic fonts need > tossing tool, just to be fair. While we're at it (even if it is OT for this thread), there's no arabtex port in the tree right now. arabtex can generate hebrew and arabic script via TeX. I'm quite curious why there's no port for it. Perhaps because of the teTeX 3 transition? Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:45:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC0D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:45:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from klmhosting.net (ip-64-124-231-116.sea1.gadoz.com [64.124.231.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF2C43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kyle@xraided.net) Received: from [172.16.45.200] (account kyle [172.16.45.200] verified) by klmhosting.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 168487 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:43:43 -0800 Message-ID: <4239C1DB.8010304@xraided.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:43:55 -0800 From: Kyle Mott User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000901c52b14$076bc210$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <20050317173021.GD8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> In-Reply-To: <20050317173021.GD8226@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache Signal 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:45:18 -0000 This just very recently started to happen (and I haven't upgraded Apache as of late either, or any other software for that matter). I keep getting this in my kernel.log on 2 different hosts: Mar 17 09:34:16 logsrv pid 38069 (httpd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Mar 17 00:34:25 g1bs0n kernel: pid 9419 (httpd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Both hosts are running 'apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22' plus 'php4-4.3.10', and a bunch of php modules that I don't want to list. i was able to get Apache running on g1bs0n by not starting ssl; however, Apache won't start on logsrv at all. Looking up man signal, SIGSEGV (11) is a segmentation violation. What can cause this on 2 different machines that haven't been updated in a while? I'm currently running a ports-cvsup, to verify that apache+mod_ssl either does or does not need to be updated. -Kyle Mott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:56:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 6AC1316A4CF; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:57 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Toomas Aas Message-ID: <20050317175657.GS91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> <20050316200949.GF91771@hub.freebsd.org> <42390B81.4080009@raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42390B81.4080009@raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Kris Kennaway cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which ports use C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:57 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 06:45:53AM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > > > >>Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports > >>anyway? > > > >That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you > >have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and > >compile new software against them on 5.3. > > OK. But just to make sure I understand it right - does this mean that if > I upgrade to 5.3, then those ports that depend on some incompatible > library or are written in C++ do not work until they are recompiled? > > I'm aware that some of the library upgrades can be overcome with > /etc/libmap.conf, but apparently this doesn't get it all. Correct on both counts. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 17:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id F3BAE16A4CF; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:59:13 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:59:13 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jean Lagarde Message-ID: <20050317175913.GT91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> <4238F9A7.5050000@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4238F9A7.5050000@bigfoot.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:59:14 -0000 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:43PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. So it seems the consensus is a likely > hardware issue, and I am leaning that way as well now. I will try the > suggestion about disabling ACPI however. > > To address some of the other comments, that exact CPU-mobo-memory > configuration worked fine running Win2000 for many years, so I doubt it > is the problem per se. Doesn't rule out bugs in the ACPI support of your motherboard. Some low-quality motherboards only implement an approximation to the ACPI spec to a level that gets windows to run. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:00:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99FE16A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:00:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575F343D5D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pthodiyil@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so68731rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:00:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Dyi1p7lLVUbyECZ2EPN1ylqdObK1EjWgkIPQsNFXsx80KhEGfKQKw1Hd0YXN3YII7TcLlx0M1k308EbBk+oiYM80vEYwb2yDgy748F3ylVQ67gXQTIdiOO96IznJ7kKXg1fu+iz1trQoVaI3Gn7OVea8YQbH4yDZ2EbQjNCYG8U= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr1713824rnj; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.10.74 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:00:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:00:16 -0500 From: paul thodiyil To: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X11 windows not setting up properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: paul thodiyil List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:00:16 -0000 I have installed FreeBSD release 5.3 for AMD 64 on my PC (opteron 250 processor, 1gb RAM, Tyan 2885 motherboard), on a separate FreeBSD partition on a SCSI hard drive. It boots up without error messages -- after logging on, at the command prompt I type startx, all that loads up of the X windows system are 4 terminal consoles, each with a command prompt. I am unable to get KDE or GNOME desktops even though I had included these in the setup process. I had previously used the 5.2 release when x-windows worked very well. My initial attempts to upgrade to 5.3 did not upgrade X-windows, so I decided to reinstall from scratch. Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to appear after startx. Many thanks. Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:01:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6659D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AA943D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:01:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pthodiyil@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so75939rng for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=E6lacO8kSRRHDBBTkkgvbrZLGAgurS/nHLK0wZtoZCaIkNu2DOrQCQA5gZDFqMsVEDf3qu3CI/IwzYr/dYD3nW24IrErUuJLAMbAdiKnnp2o1x9rSUaNIk3vHrrJo4tKkQvIWLMa695NaY+Ba56N9JkZPusdqkO3E7OzG4fkrNI= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr1709319rnd; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.10.74 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:01:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:01:44 -0500 From: paul thodiyil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Fwd: X11 windows not setting up properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: paul thodiyil List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:01:45 -0000 I have installed FreeBSD release 5.3 for AMD 64 on my PC (opteron 250 processor, 1gb RAM, Tyan 2885 motherboard), on a separate FreeBSD partition on a SCSI hard drive. It boots up without error messages -- after logging on, at the command prompt I type startx, all that loads up of the X windows system are 4 terminal consoles, each with a command prompt. I am unable to get KDE or GNOME desktops even though I had included these in the setup process. I had previously used the 5.2 release when x-windows worked very well. My initial attempts to upgrade to 5.3 did not upgrade X-windows, so I decided to reinstall from scratch. Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to appear after startx. Many thanks. Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:06:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504E616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.km.kongsberg.com (mail.kmss.no [193.69.71.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988E843D55 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.wiegand@simrad.com) To: "FreeBSD List" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3NP January 11, 2005 Message-ID: From: Chip Wiegand Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:06:09 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SMTP02/DMZ(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 17.03.2005 19:06:14, Serialize complete at 17.03.2005 19:06:14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:15 -0000 I just finished installed 5.3 and am now trying to get apache2, php4, myql4 installed. I run sysinstall to install the packages from ftp. php4 installed, mysql-client installed, but apache2 and mysql-server failed. I get this message when I tried mysql4.1.5 - Add of package mysql-client-4.1.5 aborted, error code 1 - Please check the debug screen for more info Loading of dependent package mysql-client-4.1.5 failed and the same message when trying apache2.0.50_3. I don't know how to view the debug screen so can't provide any more info than those error messages. I just need those 3 apps - apache2, php4 and mysql4 on this box for web developement. Any suggestions? Chip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:06:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A523416A4CF for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts12.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDFF43D54 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@interpool.ca) Received: from interpool.homeunix.com ([69.158.188.170]) by simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.netSMTP <20050317180625.PJJH1542.simmts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@interpool.homeunix.com>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:06:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:06:38 -0500 From: Gerry Freymann To: paul thodiyil Message-Id: <20050317130638.495f8caa.lists@interpool.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Interpool Development www.interpool.ca X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X11 windows not setting up properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:27 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:00:16 -0500 paul thodiyil wrote: >Could anyone suggest a fix for the failure of KDE or gnome desktops to >appear after startx. Did you create a file called .xinitrc in your home directory with the following content? startkde Otherwise, it just loads the boring plain Xfree interface with no windows manager or desktop. -gerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:06:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D6616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941F643D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDI00HLXCZ9ONK0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:06:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AE4302CE776; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:06:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:06:40 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050317174313.GA11557@epia2.farid-hajji.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503171006.42456.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313100640.72C114BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503170827.55262.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20050317174313.GA11557@epia2.farid-hajji.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:06:46 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:43 am, cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:27:54AM -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > If you toss beastie probably should change to change chmod 666 > > because that number offends some people. While your at it please > > remove gnome-sword, it likely offends some non Christians to have > > bible study software in ports. After all in Saudi Arabia the cross > > is illegal, no need to risk offending. What about the hewbrew > > fonts? Do they also piss off Arabs? Toss those just in case. Now > > the Arabic fonts need tossing tool, just to be fair. > > While we're at it (even if it is OT for this thread), there's no > arabtex port in the tree right now. arabtex can generate hebrew > and arabic script via TeX. I'm quite curious why there's no port > for it. Perhaps because of the teTeX 3 transition? > > Cheers, > -cpghost. To get back OT lets hope this arabtex port is not missing because someone is offended by it. To be more serious I know ports has hebrew fonts, for example /usr/ports/hebrew/elmar-fonts/pkg-descr and /usr/ports/hebrew/culmus/pkg-descr. There are arabic fonts in /usr/ports/arabic/ About arabtex I just looked at http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ifi/bs/research/arab_e.html which refers you to ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/ for download. Maybe this is a good project for some Arabic speaking person to take on? Making a port of arabtex I mean, if anyone does, be warned ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/ seems as slow as molasses. (is that phrase offensive these days? I never can be sure any more ) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9288C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from puffer.spinthread.com (puffer.spinthread.com [209.31.146.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD3343D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yanek@mail.com) Received: from mail.spinthread.com (avenger.spinthread.com [209.31.146.92]) by puffer.spinthread.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924BB7C06 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.33.71] (h-64-236-208-25.nat.aol.com [64.236.208.25]) by mail.spinthread.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10162211AB for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4239CB49.40707@mail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:24:09 -0500 From: Yanek Korff User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Macintosh/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Data Recovery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:11 -0000 Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few days, assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since? I've been playing with tools like foremost and jpegrescue a bit... and running tests on other filesystems, but it doesn't appear that I'm getting full images back from the disk. Looking at an octal dump of a disk image (dd if=/dev/blah of=/some/file), I can find the file header... and about 20k of the file, generally... and then there's garbage. Presumably the file's been broken into blocks and there's inode table data to consider... The tests I"m running are trying to find jpeg files that HAVEN'T been deleted from the filesystem. My real scenario of course differs. Pointers/rtfm welcome. -Yanek. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:24:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21416A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.dkm.cz (smtp.dkm.cz [62.24.64.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7199B43D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinkov@pobox.sk) Received: (qmail 31145 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2005 18:24:11 -0000 Received: from r4i114.chello.upc.cz (HELO ?84.42.136.114?) (84.42.136.114) by smtp.dkm.cz with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 18:24:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4239CB4B.8090209@pobox.sk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:24:11 +0100 From: martinko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050220 X-Accept-Language: sk, cs, en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: strange behaviour : grep -i --colour "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:24:19 -0000 hello, i've just found out that while 'grep -i ""' and 'grep --colour ""' behave as expected (by myself), running 'grep -i --colour ""' results in very strange behaviour - grep consumes all available cpu and, based on its input and terminal type, its output is definitely not what it should be. is this a known issue pls (i couldn't find anything about it) or am i just missing something ? regards, martin ps: observed on freebsd 5.3r-p5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 18:39:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B12C16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:39:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7FA43D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:39:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050317183900016007r256e>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:39:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c52b20$9e63b6d0$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "FreeBSD List" , "Chip Wiegand" References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:39:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:39:01 -0000 You can switch ttys to view output of pkg_add to see any error messages.. or try using the Ports tree. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Wiegand" To: "FreeBSD List" Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: new install of fbsd with apache/php/mysql >I just finished installed 5.3 and am now trying to get apache2, php4, > myql4 installed. I run sysinstall to install the packages from ftp. php4 > installed, mysql-client installed, but apache2 and mysql-server failed. I > get this message when I tried mysql4.1.5 - > > Add of package mysql-client-4.1.5 aborted, error code 1 - Please check the > debug screen for more info > > Loading of dependent package mysql-client-4.1.5 failed > > and the same message when trying apache2.0.50_3. > > I don't know how to view the debug screen so can't provide any more info > than those error messages. > I just need those 3 apps - apache2, php4 and mysql4 on this box for web > developement. > > Any suggestions? > Chip > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:01:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D0B43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HJ1fb06356; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Thompson, Jimi" , Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:01:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Thompson, Jimi > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:04 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are > giving in > to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves > dominating everyone's ideas about religion. I would urge the FreeBSD > community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious freedom > for everyone. You have a right to your logo. It's been your logo for > 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to make you > change it. I'm not saying that they have to agree with you, but they > don't have the right to force you to change. > Hi Jimi, First, if yuor a FreeBSD user it's YOUR logo too, not just mine. Second, I agree with the sentiments - which is why I do not intend to participate in the rediculous "contest" for a new logo which was announced here last month. I urge everyone else not to participate also. The core developers who want to change Beastie are not graphic artists, they know they aren't graphic artists, and they have never been able to come up with anything to replace beastie that looks a tenth as good. They know this which is why the put together the contest. If nobody participates in the contest then they will be back where they started from and will not have gained anything in the attempt to change beastie. If that happens not only will beastie stay but the malcontents will have gotten such a significantly embarassing and bloody nose over the affair that they will then hopefully drop this stupid and misguided campaign. Remember - these religious right politically correct types draw strength in numbers. They know they are a minority in the userbase, and so the only hope they have of winning is the following: 1) is getting a sufficient number of FreeBSD users converted over to the way they think. 2) Hiding behind the existing FreeBSD core team and making the rest of us think that the entire core team is united in wanting to toss Beastie. So far, numbers 1 and 2 aren't true, and unless the userbase starts thinking that they are, this effort will die a quiet death. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:01:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C980F16A513 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C8743D3F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050317190148014004j9pae>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:48 +0000 Message-ID: <004201c52b23$c8f7f430$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Yanek Korff" , References: <4239CB49.40707@mail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:01:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: Data Recovery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:01:49 -0000 I hope that you have remounted this filesystem read-only .. or else you might not be able to recover anything. That might be one of the problems you are running into. Sleuthkit allows you to search inodes and fragment ranges of a device for particular file and directory names.. then images that inode or fragment range into a single image file elsewhere on the system. Foremost will then open that image file and extract files based on their header and footer information, but.. if you do not include footer information you might get truncated file recovery. Also.. as stated before.. if there have been multiple writes to the file system.. you probably wont get the file back at all. Hope this helps.. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yanek Korff" To: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Data Recovery > > Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few days, > assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since? > > I've been playing with tools like foremost and jpegrescue a bit... and > running tests on other filesystems, but it doesn't appear that I'm getting > full images back from the disk. Looking at an octal dump of a disk image > (dd if=/dev/blah of=/some/file), I can find the file header... and about > 20k of the file, generally... and then there's garbage. Presumably the > file's been broken into blocks and there's inode table data to consider... > > The tests I"m running are trying to find jpeg files that HAVEN'T been > deleted from the filesystem. My real scenario of course differs. > > Pointers/rtfm welcome. > > -Yanek. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:05:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271E016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:05:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B5A43D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HJ5mb06378; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:05:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" , "Michael C. Shultz" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:05:39 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503171643.j2HGhes03771@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:05:47 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry > McAllister > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM > To: Michael C. Shultz > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > Oh, quit your whining. The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away. > It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used > it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it. > Wrong. Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX predates Kirk. > If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a > good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they > will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD. So what. Gee, > maybe Kirk McKusick will design it. Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo > so the mascot isn't threatened. > Wrong. Beastie has always been the logo. It is one of the hallmarks of the anti-beastie campaign that the anti-beastie people are now claiming that beastie was never the logo. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:06:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2516E16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:06:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp04.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp04.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33143D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:06:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mweg@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.95.94.122] X-Originating-Email: [mweg@sympatico.ca] Received: from pepstep ([65.95.94.122]) by bayc1-pasmtp04.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:06:34 -0800 From: "Marco Greene (ML)" To: "FreeBSD List" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: <004401c52b24$9811fd60$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 19:06:35.0101 (UTC) FILETIME=[703118D0:01C52B24] Subject: /etc/ppp/ip-up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:06:36 -0000 Hi all, I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down = scripts and the fact that they do not work. I am experiencing the same thing = and I have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with = little success. I would really like to use these scripts. Are there any = hints? -I have set the permissions to 555 -#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script Are there any other things that I may have missed? Note: pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as = found on one of the links given by the handbook. Thanks, Marco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412E316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFD943D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050317191021014004h8t8e>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:22 +0000 Message-ID: <006b01c52b25$071ccf00$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Jerry McAllister" , "Michael C. Shultz" References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:10:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:23 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" ; "Michael C. Shultz" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry >> McAllister >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM >> To: Michael C. Shultz >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > >> >> Oh, quit your whining. The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away. >> It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used >> it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it. >> > > Wrong. Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX > predates Kirk. > >> If someone comes up with some nice looking graphic that makes a >> good official logo and the FreeBSD Foundation buys it, then they >> will have an official logo, owned by FreeBSD. So what. Gee, >> maybe Kirk McKusick will design it. Anyway, a mascot isn't a logo >> so the mascot isn't threatened. >> > > Wrong. Beastie has always been the logo. It is one of the hallmarks of > the anti-beastie campaign that the anti-beastie people are now claiming > that > beastie was never the logo. Who claims that Beastie was never the logo? Who cares? Will the logo affect the OS? If not .. Im happy :-) T > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:14:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9AB16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:14:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0032E43D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:14:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2HJEjb06418; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:14:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael C. Shultz" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:14:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503170829.38563.ringworm01@gmail.com> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:14:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > Shultz > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:30 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > > > Shultz > > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM > > > To: RacerX > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > > > > > adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > > > > I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > > > to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > > > AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > > > stick by it seams unwise. > > > > It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core > > members that have sticks up their ass about this issue. The rest > > of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor > > on this issue. > > > > The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to > > bother to spend time on a logo change or not? If the 1 or 2 core > > members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably > > isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work > > to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents. > > > > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent > > logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the > > new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and > > your going to see beastie used at most other places. It will simply > > present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at > > all. Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that > > GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron. > > > > Ted > > We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to > take pride > in anything, and it shows. > No, not at all. The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully being able to destroy ANWR for example. More accurately, the United States has a political system that is suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize control until cooler heads prevail. We are in one of these times. Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition. You and I wern't alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia. I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a chance of control is much worse than a political system where the minority gets control every once in a while. So enduring these periods of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make. Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those beliefs. So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds of it's own destruction. Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich. All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:25:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE09316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:25:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675E843D5A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mweg@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.95.94.122] X-Originating-Email: [mweg@sympatico.ca] Received: from pepstep ([65.95.94.122]) by bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:25:20 -0800 From: "Marco Greene (ML)" Cc: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:26:26 -0500 Message-ID: <004901c52b27$371b1d90$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 19:25:21.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F4BC530:01C52B27] Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:25:21 -0000 Here is my 2 cents worth...Can we please stop filling our inboxes with this.... A logo...a mascot...who really cares. If whoever put it there wants it there, then let them put it there.=20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ted = Mittelstaedt Sent: March 17, 2005 2:15 PM To: Michael C. Shultz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. > Shultz > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:30 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 08:01 am, you wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael = C. > > > Shultz > > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:42 AM > > > To: RacerX > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > > > > > adding my $0.02 to the pot > > > > > > I hope FreeBSD folks have more pride in their product than > > > to allow a few malcontents cause a logo change. If bestie goes > > > AWOL so may I. Using a product when its own designers won't > > > stick by it seams unwise. > > > > It's important to understand that there's only 1 or 2 of the core > > members that have sticks up their ass about this issue. The rest > > of them don't understand why it's necessary to waste time or labor > > on this issue. > > > > The question then becomes if your a core member, are you going to > > bother to spend time on a logo change or not? If the 1 or 2 core > > members come up with a different logo, the rest of core probably > > isn't going to expend effort on changing the logo, and all the work > > to do this will rest on the shoulders of the 1 or 2 malcontents. > > > > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent > > logo out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the > > new logo used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and > > your going to see beastie used at most other places. It will simply > > present more confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at > > all. Most likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that > > GM for example uses multiple brands for the same iron. > > > > Ted > > We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to > take pride > in anything, and it shows. > No, not at all. The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully being able to destroy ANWR for example. More accurately, the United States has a political system that is suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize control until cooler heads prevail. We are in one of these times. Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition. You and I wern't alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia. I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a chance of control is much worse than a political system where the minority gets control every once in a while. So enduring these periods of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make. Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those beliefs. So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds of it's own destruction. Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich. All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit. Ted _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:40:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC0716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69343D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F10222400 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:40:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55135-07 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:40:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [204.26.70.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AAB222401 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:40:15 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:40:11 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> In-Reply-To: <4B3F673172B98D449EBCC3BE8316F52405969332@exch4.elcsb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1611607.JklbgHmt8y"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503171340.14173.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:40:19 -0000 --nextPart1611607.JklbgHmt8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:04, Thompson, Jimi wrote: > Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing > religious references [...] No. Some people are going to be a pain in the butt regardless, and they=20 attempt to use their beliefs (or lack of beliefs) as a tool to bully=20 others. The rest of us hate that our religion is drawn through the mud by= =20 loudmouths who claim to speak for us. I'm about as conservative as you can get, but I have a Beastie logo on my=20 server (next to the EFF sticker). Can we drop this now? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1611607.JklbgHmt8y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBCOd0e5sRg+Y0CpvERAlCBAKCdRqmObGcy4e/mqBp7W2Jf6d9RdwCdFCmI 7iIs3usTXLiCPwVCIClPH9s= =uJl+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1611607.JklbgHmt8y-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:49:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3588516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:49:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from medsite.hu (www.medsite.hu [217.65.100.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7AA43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:49:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from szabszi@goodwill.hu) Received: from ip98-245.ktv.tiszanet.hu ([217.65.98.245] helo=[10.0.0.41]) by medsite.hu with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DC0zU-0008Aj-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4239DF2F.3090202@goodwill.hu> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:49:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9czi_Szabolcs?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan *1DC0zU-0008Aj-00*8DNxEr0mxzE* (Netion Kft) Subject: 5.3-release-p5 pptp stoped working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:49:36 -0000 re, after I made a cvsup and buildworld my pptp doesn't work well. the clients can authenticate succesfully but they cannot reach subnet except the tunnel's endpoint ip which is 192.168.1.1. naturally my ppp/pptp configuration are unchanged. any idea? sz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:52:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B2216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:52:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133C543D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:52:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HJqXP04586; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:52:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171952.j2HJqXP04586@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: mweg@sympatico.ca ("Marco Greene (ML)") Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:52:33 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <004901c52b27$371b1d90$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> from "Marco Greene (ML)" at Mar 17, 2005 02:26:26 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:52:35 -0000 > > > > We live in a day and age where it is politically incorrect to > > take pride > > in anything, and it shows. > > Well, by now we are gleefully off topic for this list, so... > No, not at all. The right-wingers take lots of pride in successfully > being able to destroy ANWR for example. > > More accurately, the United States has a political system that is > suceptable to control by minorities, and every once in a while the > right-wingers who are a minority in the country, manage to seize > control until cooler heads prevail. We are in one of these times. The USA system attempts/purports to _protect_ the minorities. This exists because supposedly the system tries to protect everyone, not specifically the minorities. It is only an artifact that sometimes minorities find themselves able to use the system to influence some outcome. They do not seize control. They wield whatever poser/influence they can muster, but they do not seize control. > Don't forget the same thing happened with Prohibition. You and I wern't > alive then, but the ultraconservative christians managed to take control > then also, and the result of that failed attempt was the Mafia. First, that wasn't such a minority or untraconservative outcome as you might think. It had next to nothing to do with Christianity although some churches and church people got in to the fray. It was mostly more an unholy alliance of women activists and those who were discovering the concept of social engineering. It initially enjoyed widespread support -- as well as widespread grumbling. Most who apposed it, presumed they could just ignore it which is what they did. Next, it was not exactly a failure. The use of alcohol went down very significantly. Finally, it was not the Mafia that gained power, but the Chicago, Detroit and Galveston based bootlegger gangs. They weren't Mafia related for the most part and probably actually cut in to Mafia power during their brief reign. > I am afraid that a political system where the minority never gets a > chance of control is much worse than a political system where the > minority gets control every once in a while. So enduring these periods > of time is I am afraid, one of the payments that we must make. It is more that we need to discipline ourselves to protect everyone and when we begin to fail in that, some corrective events begin to happen. Some of those corrective events can actually be disastrous. > Also remember if you examine the core of the ultraconservative beliefs > that they do not have suppression of individual liberties in those > beliefs. So, any time the ultraconservatives get control they cannot > help being hipocrites, and thus their movement carries with it the seeds > of it's own destruction. Don't forget what took down Newt Gringrich. > All ultraconservatives are hipocrites when they attempt to apply their > philosophy, thus the movement carries an automatic self-limit. Sure, each 'ultra' group contains the seeds/tools of its own destruction. So, lets leave this topic at that. Either the ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy themselves. ////jerry > > Ted > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 19:54:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A9916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:54:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465CE43D69 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:54:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2HJs9804599; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503171954.j2HJs9804599@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tbonius@comcast.net (Thomas Foster) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:54:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <006b01c52b25$071ccf00$4300a8c0@home.lan> from "Thomas Foster" at Mar 17, 2005 11:10:41 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:54:20 -0000 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry > >> McAllister > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:44 AM > >> To: Michael C. Shultz > >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > >> > >> Oh, quit your whining. The Beastie mascot isn't going to go away. > >> It got its start because someone (Kirk) enjoyed drawing it and used > >> it on some stuff and people enjoyed. it. > >> > > > > Wrong. Use of the devil image for the logo for BSD and UNIX > > predates Kirk. Maybe, but he drew the cutest picture. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:02:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4955816A4CE; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:02:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harik.murex.com (mail.murex.com [194.98.239.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977CB43D55; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:02:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from interscan.fr.murex.com (iscan.murex.fr [172.21.17.207] (may be forged)) by harik.murex.com with ESMTP id j2HJpobW013744; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:51:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mxmail.murex.com (interscan.murex.fr [127.0.0.1]) by interscan.fr.murex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2HKCpg03034; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:12:51 +0100 Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com ([172.21.130.86]) by mxmail.murex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:02:19 +0100 From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:02:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 20:02:19.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[39CCDDD0:01C52B2C] cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: adding a directory to a CD-image (.iso) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:02:47 -0000 Hello! I donwloaded an .iso-image (Solaris 10, actually), which is about 2.7Gb. Before burning it to a DVD, I'd like to add a directory to the image. Is there a way to do it with tools available on FreeBSD -- mkisofs, growisofs, etc? I don't want to recreate the main image from scratch, as I'm sure, I'll get the options wrong and it will not boot :-) Can I just add a directory to the existing iso8859 filesystem? Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:08:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5BA16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3743D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 147B21C00090 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:08:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F10CB1C000A9 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:08:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050317200839987.F10CB1C000A9@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:08:39 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <819853755.20050317210839@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4239CB49.40707@mail.com> References: <4239CB49.40707@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Data Recovery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:41 -0000 Yanek Korff writes: > Are there any ways to recover files from rm -rf dirname after a few > days, assuming there have been few if any writes to the filesystem since? You can restore the files from backup for as long as you keep the backups. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B13B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.bol-online.com (mx3.bol-online.com [202.84.36.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C82C43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from netra.bol-online.com (netra.bol-online.com [202.84.32.21]) by mx3.bol-online.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6FC50884 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:09:08 +0600 (BDT) Received: from [192.168.168.89] (tcr7ep193.dhaka.net [202.84.37.193]) by netra.bol-online.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2HK354W003760 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:03:06 +0600 (BDT) Message-ID: <423A8A9D.2050506@bol-online.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:00:29 -0600 From: Aftab Jahan Subedar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD List References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BOL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BOL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jahan@bol-online.com X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/ppp/ip-up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:08:50 -0000 Hi Marco, It works fine for me. But my file name is ppp.linkup, according to man ppp and I used the following way MakHine# cat ppp.linkup MYADDR: !bg sh -c "sleep 75;/usr/local/bin/noip2 -U 59" MakHine# Aftab Jahan Subedar - Kayoty 4 - Spyware detector for windows, check that out. http://www.tucows.com/preview/379868.html Marco Greene (ML) wrote: >Hi all, > >I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down scripts >and the fact that they do not work. I am experiencing the same thing and I >have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with little >success. I would really like to use these scripts. Are there any hints? > >-I have set the permissions to 555 >-#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script > >Are there any other things that I may have missed? > >Note: pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as found >on one of the links given by the handbook. > >Thanks, >Marco > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:23:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F4A16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.championrealty.com (mail.fnistools.com [206.54.148.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E11643D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:23:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TimSimmons@Championrealty.com) Received: from Weasel [141.157.27.194] by mail.championrealty.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A74A9BD0090; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:38 -0600 From: "Tim Simmons" To: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:23:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcUqWfMqr51PodN2SdSG6NBcsPTLhwA1SEyA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <42388180.7010108@stevesullam.com> Message-Id: <200503171423932.SM00680@Weasel> Subject: RE: apple share X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:23:41 -0000 That's where the tricky part comes in. We can't change any of the software on the Mac server. I was looking for a gateway between the mac server and our PCs. We have a login ID and password, but that's all. Timothy R. Simmons IT Technician Champion Realty Inc. Direct Line: 410-975-3328 Office: 410-544-6004 E-mail: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sullam [mailto:steve@stevesullam.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:57 PM To: TimSimmons@ChampionRealty.Com Subject: apple share An easy solution is to install Dave (a commericial product) on the Apple server if it is running Mac Classic. If it is running OSX you can use Samba. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:31:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146D016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:31:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com (bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com [65.54.191.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D02843D5D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:31:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mweg@sympatico.ca) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.93.94.51] X-Originating-Email: [mweg@sympatico.ca] Received: from pepstep ([65.93.94.51]) by bayc1-pasmtp03.bayc1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:31:55 -0800 From: "Marco Greene (ML)" To: "'Aftab Jahan Subedar'" , "FreeBSD List" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <005301c52b30$843f6960$24c8a8c0@snowy.meadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <423A8A9D.2050506@bol-online.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2005 20:31:56.0044 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C82FCC0:01C52B30] Subject: RE: /etc/ppp/ip-up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:31:57 -0000 Thanks...that worked. I just found ip-up/ip-down in the pppd man page, = but I guess that is not what I was really after for running something after = a userland connection comes up. Thanks, Marco -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aftab Jahan Subedar Sent: March 18, 2005 3:00 AM To: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: /etc/ppp/ip-up Hi Marco, It works fine for me. But my file name is ppp.linkup, according to man ppp and I used the following way MakHine# cat ppp.linkup MYADDR: !bg sh -c "sleep 75;/usr/local/bin/noip2 -U 59" MakHine# =20 Aftab Jahan Subedar - Kayoty 4 - Spyware detector for windows, check that out.=20 http://www.tucows.com/preview/379868.html =20 Marco Greene (ML) wrote: >Hi all, > >I have found a few postings regarding the /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down scripts >and the fact that they do not work. I am experiencing the same thing = and I >have tried all of the hints that I found in those threads but with = little >success. I would really like to use these scripts. Are there any = hints? > >-I have set the permissions to 555 >-#!/bin/sh is the first line in the script > >Are there any other things that I may have missed? > >Note: pppoe is setup as per the handbook with a few modifications as = found >on one of the links given by the handbook. > >Thanks, >Marco > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > =20 > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:39:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1651416A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:39:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F7643D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:39:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philippebastien@netscape.net) Received: from philippebastien@netscape.net by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.2.108f2c1e (22680) for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.net (mow-m02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.130]) by air-in04.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILININ41-58984239eaeb1a9; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:39:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:39:06 -0500 From: philippebastien@netscape.net (Philippe Bastien) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7195523F.665408BD.37FAF405@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 X-AOL-IP: 64.86.141.176 X-AOL-Language: english Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: permanent changes to interface configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:39:12 -0000 Hi. I have made some changes to my interface configuration. I used ifconfig to change from autodetect to 100baseTX full-duplex. Unless I am mistaken, that change is not permanent (it will be lost on the next reboot). What is the command or how do I make this change permanent? Thanks Philippe __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:44:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A47116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:44:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81001.mail.yahoo.com (web81001.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80E1F43D31 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:44:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050317204454.19945.qmail@web81001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.90.100.209] by web81001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:44:53 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:44:53 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Can't Login to Box Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:44:55 -0000 Hello, I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd. Upon rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means. The console also generates the same error: login in free(): error: chunk is already free This is on FreeBSD 5.3. Any advice on how to mount or access the server from the console? I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is read-only and that doesnt' do me any good. Thanks, JP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:45:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7E616A4FE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:45:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5210643D54 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23848C629F2 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:45:28 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: cvUKAEyB9nxz9i7/fcBDyg 1111092328 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-77-218.access.as9105.com [80.41.77.218]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E3F25535 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:45:26 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:45:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:45:30 -0000 On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote: > Hello, > When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: > ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /dev/null > cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or > directory > dmake: Error code 1, while making > './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > *** Error code 255 > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting: WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES should make it work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 20:48:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F379F16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:48:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D2B43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:48:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b224.otenet.gr [212.205.244.232]) j2HKlx3Y023979; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:00 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2HKmMBo000955; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2HKmLen000954; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Philippe Bastien Message-ID: <20050317204821.GA890@gothmog.gr> References: <7195523F.665408BD.37FAF405@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7195523F.665408BD.37FAF405@netscape.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permanent changes to interface configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:48:33 -0000 On 2005-03-17 15:39, Philippe Bastien wrote: > Hi. > I have made some changes to my interface configuration. I used > ifconfig to change from autodetect to 100baseTX full-duplex. Unless I > am mistaken, that change is not permanent (it will be lost on the next > reboot). What is the command or how do I make this change permanent? You save all the relevant ifconfig options in `/etc/rc.conf', i.e.: ifconfig_sis0="inet 10.0.0.2/8 -mediaopt FOO" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:03:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AD416A4CE; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:03:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2551943D41; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:03:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id j2HL3Dqd010843; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:03:13 +0200 Received: from INFO/SpoolDir by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48); 17 Mar 05 23:03:13 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 17 Mar 05 23:02:51 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (192.168.1.2) by raad.tartu.ee (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 17 Mar 05 23:02:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4239F077.1070400@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:02:47 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <42388091.5060103@raad.tartu.ee> <20050316200949.GF91771@hub.freebsd.org> <42390B81.4080009@raad.tartu.ee> <20050317175657.GS91771@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050317175657.GS91771@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which ports use C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:03:16 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 06:45:53AM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > >>Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 08:53:05PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: >>>> >>>>Or should I more or less expect that I need to rebuild *all* the ports >>>>anyway? >>> >>>That's best; there are other incompatibilities that are there when you >>>have old (compiled on 5.2) versions of a library and you try and >>>compile new software against them on 5.3. >> >>OK. But just to make sure I understand it right - does this mean that if >>I upgrade to 5.3, then those ports that depend on some incompatible >>library or are written in C++ do not work until they are recompiled? >> >>I'm aware that some of the library upgrades can be overcome with >>/etc/libmap.conf, but apparently this doesn't get it all. > > Correct on both counts. I guess I was lucky in that all my "important" ports: postfix, amavisd-new, cyrus-imapd, mod_php, mysql40-server and apache2 survived the OS upgrade without the need to re-compile them. I *am* still planning to re-compile them anyway, I'm just glad I didn't *have* to do it all in one night. Just wanted to record this as a data point in the list archives, in case someone else is looking at a same sort of upgrade. -- Toomas Aas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E57116A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 269CA43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 62169 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2005 21:13:46 -0000 Received: from batv-01-015.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.16) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 21:13:46 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050317151224.2503a390@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:12:58 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <20050317204454.19945.qmail@web81001.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: JP Subject: Re: Can't Login to Box Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:13:49 -0000 At 14:44 3/17/2005, JP wrote: >Hello, >=20 >I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd. Upon= =20 >rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means. = =20 >The console also generates the same error: >=20 >login in free(): error: chunk is already free >=20 >This is on FreeBSD 5.3. Any advice on how to mount or access the server=20 >from the console? I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is=20 >read-only and that doesnt' do me any good. This might help: http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dfreebsd+read+only+file+system >=20 >Thanks, >JP >=20 >=20 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076F016A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:25:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7043D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:25:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org ([172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2HLN4oR015552; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:23:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2HLN4X2072722; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:23:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2HLN3Xj072721; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:23:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:23:03 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: RW Message-ID: <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:25:33 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote: > > Hello, > > When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: > > ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /dev/null > > cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or > > directory > > dmake: Error code 1, while making > > './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' > > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > > *** Error code 255 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. > > It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be > fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting: > > WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES > > should make it work. > Didn't work for me yesterday. However, I was able to install the package from: http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ HTH -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:33:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C8F16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FD943D5C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j2HLWtx69439; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:32:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:32:55 -0600 From: John To: JP Message-ID: <20050317153255.A69416@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050317204454.19945.qmail@web81001.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050317204454.19945.qmail@web81001.mail.yahoo.com>; from jprez1980@yahoo.com on Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 12:44:53PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't Login to Box Anymore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:01 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 12:44:53PM -0800, JP wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Samba and was configuring the box for winbindd. Upon rebooting I can no longer login to the box via telnet or any other means. The console also generates the same error: > > login in free(): error: chunk is already free > > This is on FreeBSD 5.3. Any advice on how to mount or access the server from the console? I tried to use the safe mode but the file system is read-only and that doesnt' do me any good. Hey, JP. The file system being read-only has nothing to do with your login problem. I do not recognize what is going on with your login problem, and cannot help you there, but I can advise you on the read-only status. You can issue a mount command to remount (or initially mount) the filesystems you need to try to solve your problem. I won't try to tell you which filesytems you need or want, but many people will use a "mount -a" after single-user boot to do system maintenance. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:33:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297C816A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF62643D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7332612139; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:34:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4239F79D.1080103@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:17 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Poland References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: RW Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:33:38 -0000 Doug Poland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +0000, RW wrote: > >>On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>>When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: >>>./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& /dev/null >>>cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file or >>>directory >>>dmake: Error code 1, while making >>>'./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >>>---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >>>*** Error code 255 >>> >>>Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. >> >>It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be >>fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting: >> >>WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES >> >>should make it work. >> > > Didn't work for me yesterday. However, I was able to install the > package from: > > http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ Anyone know, does the openoffice-2.0 port work? Is it worth my while giving it a test build? > > HTH > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:38:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F4D16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:38:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F1243D48 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:38:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.61.64] (port=1099 helo=[172.17.0.69]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DC2hF-000GpF-00; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:38:25 +0300 Message-ID: <4239F8D1.6080608@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:38:25 +0300 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9czi_Szabolcs?= References: <4239DF2F.3090202@goodwill.hu> In-Reply-To: <4239DF2F.3090202@goodwill.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release-p5 pptp stoped working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:38:27 -0000 Géczi Szabolcs wrote: > after I made a cvsup and buildworld my pptp doesn't work well. > the clients can authenticate succesfully but they cannot reach subnet > except the tunnel's endpoint ip which is 192.168.1.1. > naturally my ppp/pptp configuration are unchanged. > > any idea? It's just that you didn't mention it: did you update your kernel after updating world? Best wishes, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA20716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:39:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698F743D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:39:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shchoi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so517053wra for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:39:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Kjxqm1YAhOJ6J7Sp1le9LYpJ5eYrmsK/XHLdDOb9hXF9DiMlIR13bCp4OV6R9w0yGuVqmYsg493QxQIleMnvx2qjKf47zygjPfjbliDtHNkZJeykGjsJGxU8KyeUXwuN1pS45/Ept4ufIak/We8i8l3tRVGKPbCxcxhRiR3WJag= Received: by 10.54.29.61 with SMTP id c61mr2271563wrc; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.8.52 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:39:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34b425c50503171339602274be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:39:18 +0000 From: Soo-Hyun Choi To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <4239AD77.9080201@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34b425c505031705587bfc378c@mail.gmail.com> <4239AD77.9080201@daleco.biz> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soo-Hyun Choi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:39:20 -0000 Well, I have just formatted the portion that FreeBSD is placed. And I have just been reinstalling the whole system again. I found that the disk shortage does not come from gnome but from OpenOffice 1.1 installation. Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? (If it does, how much large?) For your reference, I have partitioned (and labeled) the disk by using Auto Allocation(?) option in FreeBSD disk labeler. Thank you. Soo-Hyun On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:55 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal > >installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full > >X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE. > > > >My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The > >FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to > >upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some > >point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the > >recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/) > > > >Is 10G HDD space is not good enough? > > > >Soo-Hyun > > > > > > Well, it *should* be plenty. How did you partition the drive? > > Could you show us the output of "df", the output of > "cat /etc/fstab", and give the text and context of the > warning message you refer to? > > Kevin Kinsey > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09C516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10D43D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lgrady@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so442780wri for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:43:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SfLFwlzDcA5R3vnZ4t7ZJAAYtxGa2zNUluVCcRQUye0Q329AJy5zlI460odf/zydw0f1dtPpsLhO0Y4yt8dfd+A1oZw7XShYc2e+pNs0UsUl5dEcEh5Q59e7RmJnBnlUXEKByjqC2x0zXDHM4WiO+UMmIoSYyUgcl5RXLJ/QwH4= Received: by 10.54.54.78 with SMTP id c78mr2485847wra; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.49.3 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:43:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:43:08 -0600 From: luke To: freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make buildworld errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: luke List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:43:10 -0000 i just cvsup'd to release_5_3 and i'm making buildworld but it keeps erroring out. if i do make buildworld again, chaning nothing, it goes a little further and errors again. i've done this a few times. here's my /etc/make.conf %more /etc/make.conf CPUTYPE=k6-2 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe NO_FORTRAN= true NO_I4B= true NO_LPR= true NO_X= true NOGAMES= true NOPROFILE= true USA_RESIDENT= yes %uname -a FreeBSD gw.internal.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 and here's output from the latest time it's stopped. any help is appreciated. cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DGENERATOR_FILE -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.c In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp.c:26: /usr/include/stdio.h: In function `__sputc': /usr/include/stdio.h:399: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. gw# this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again. i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's hardware related. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:49:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E676516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:49:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFAF43D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2HLnhQW021369; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:49:43 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, luke Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:49:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503171349.53440.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: make buildworld errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:49:55 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 01:43 pm, luke wrote: > i just cvsup'd to release_5_3 and i'm making buildworld but it keeps > erroring out. > if i do make buildworld again, chaning nothing, it goes a little > further and errors > again. i've done this a few times. here's my /etc/make.conf These are usually hardware errors. Some k6's were famous for overheating. Kent > > %more /etc/make.conf > CPUTYPE=k6-2 > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe > NO_FORTRAN= true > NO_I4B= true > NO_LPR= true > NO_X= true > NOGAMES= true > NOPROFILE= true > USA_RESIDENT= yes > > %uname -a > FreeBSD gw.internal.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov > 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > and here's output from the latest time it's stopped. any help is > appreciated. > > cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config > -DGENERATOR_FILE -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp. >c In file included from > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/choose-temp. >c:26: /usr/include/stdio.h: In function `__sputc': > /usr/include/stdio.h:399: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > gw# > > this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the > make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again. > i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a > pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for > a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's > hardware related. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:51:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E6916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC27943D1D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2HLp7Ki016071; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2HLp58H005581; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:51:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> References: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4f99d14adb78f34dc085cb3a921a7a54@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:51:04 -0500 To: luke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd Subject: Re: make buildworld errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:08 -0000 On Mar 17, 2005, at 4:43 PM, luke wrote: > this is the 3rd place it's stopped, and like i said, if i repeat the > make buildworld command it will go a little further and stop again. > i'm going to start using time make buildworld and see if there is a > pattern here. this machine has been acting as a slackware gateway for > a little over a year with no hardware change, so i don't think it's > hardware related. Actually, if the compile crashes out at different points, that's almost a sure sign of a hardware issue, most probably overheating. If you were just running the system as a network router before, that involves so little load that you wouldn't stress anything, but building world is a good stress test and marginal cooling will show symptoms like what you've described. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:51:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1556E16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8962B43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B853E1213C; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:52:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4239FBE3.5080703@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:31 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> <4239F79D.1080103@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4239F79D.1080103@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: RW Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:51:55 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > Doug Poland wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +0000, RW wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: >>>> ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& >>>> /dev/null >>>> cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such >>>> file or >>>> directory >>>> dmake: Error code 1, while making >>>> './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >>>> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >>>> *** Error code 255 >>>> >>>> Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. >>> >>> >>> It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be >>> fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting: >>> >>> WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES >>> >>> should make it work. >>> >> >> Didn't work for me yesterday. However, I was able to install the >> package from: >> >> http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ >> > > > Anyone know, does the openoffice-2.0 port work? Is it worth my while > giving it a test build? Holy frijoles, did you see the size of the tarball that this thing downloads? 232 Mb! Probably takes 49 days to build ... > >> >> HTH >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 21:55:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF02616A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:55:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C52443D5C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:55:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050317215517014004kg8ae>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:55:17 +0000 Message-ID: <00a601c52b3c$12a9b0b0$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Doug Poland" , "RW" References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com><1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com><200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:55:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:55:19 -0000 Same here.. passing WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES doesnt seem to do the trick, though installing the pkg worked out for me.. Also, I am curious why it still uses XFree-libs as a dependency.. though not an immediate issue.. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Poland" To: "RW" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:45:25PM +0000, RW wrote: >> On Wednesday 16 March 2005 15:54, Brian John wrote: >> > Hello, >> > When I try to build openoffice I get the following error: >> > ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/FREEBSDGCCIruntime/libprldap50.so && \ echo >& >> > /dev/null >> > cp: ./unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/mozilla/dist/bin/libnss3.so: No such file >> > or >> > directory >> > dmake: Error code 1, while making >> > './unxfbsd.pro/misc/build/so_moz_runtime_files' >> > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >> > *** Error code 255 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1. >> >> It's been discussed in the ports list. You can just wait for it to be >> fixed, but if you are in a hurry setting: >> >> WITHOUT_MOZILLA=YES >> >> should make it work. >> > Didn't work for me yesterday. However, I was able to install the > package from: > > http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ > > HTH > > -- > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:06:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99D416A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3757243D2F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:06:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2HM6cQC054725 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:06:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2HM6c3q054724 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:06:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:06:38 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050317220638.GA54657@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: script to save a particular mail file?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:06:23 -0000 Hi Y'all, Just thought I'd ask the list if anyone has a script to read /var/mail/ and grab a single file. I just sub'd to a mailing list that is produced only in HTML. I'd like to save it to /tmp, strip it, and have it ready for lynx or links. If anyone onlist has already done this, it would save me from reinventing *this* wheel. thanks in advance, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:07:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F111216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:07:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE7943D5A for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:07:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) (209.6.197.67) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2005 17:07:31 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.91,99,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="11838243:sNHT22284092" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16953.64984.691752.767716@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:59:52 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4239FBE3.5080703@chuckr.org> References: <1110988504.29545.81524@generated.messagingengine.com> <1591.209.87.176.4.1110988467.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> <200503172045.26629.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050317212303.GA72687@polands.org> <4239F79D.1080103@chuckr.org> <4239FBE3.5080703@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: cannot build openoffice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:07:33 -0000 Chuck Robey writes: > Holy frijoles, did you see the size of the tarball that this thing > downloads? 232 Mb! Probably takes 49 days to build ... Between 24 and 48 hours on my P4-2.25ghz system .... Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D284416A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:09:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5610943D39 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from selever@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:selever@norge.freeshell.org [192.94.73.3]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2HM99YN024654 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:09:10 GMT Received: (from selever@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j2HM99bG008177; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:09:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:09:09 -0600 (CST) From: Nic Reveles X-X-Sender: selever@norge.freeshell.org To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Installing x11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:09:21 -0000 Hello, After reading freeBSD's handbook on installing x11, I have some simple questions. I'm running 5.2.1 and wish to get xorg running. /usr/ports/x11/xorg does not exist. pkg_add -r xorg Just tells me that the file cannot be found. I've tried to upgrade to a newer version that comes with x11, but everytime I chose Upgrade I can never find a passive FTP server that has 5.2.1/release available. >From my position, what is the easiest way to get xorg running (not XFree86)? Regards, Nic Reveles SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:14:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C4916A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.bluewin.ch (mail2.bluewin.ch [195.186.4.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE043D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from devnull@truffy.com) Received: from smtp.localnet (83.76.151.211) by mail2.bluewin.ch (Bluewin 7.0.042) id 423594FF00074FC1 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:14:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [192.168.0.20]) by smtp.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CF0745FC for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:14:52 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Nigel Moore Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:14:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: MySQL ports 'missing' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:14:55 -0000 Hi I'm trying to use FreeBSD ports to install MySQL server 4.1.10. The CLI throws back an error to the effect that mysql-4.1.5-gamma.tar.gz is unavailable. The website (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/databases/mysql41-server) cannot find the ports. What' s the problem and how can I get around it? Thanks! Nigel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:23:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2526216A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:23:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A23F43D2D for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:23:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so162950rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ixTW6ht8te+CxtTHiwLoGqEl26AIamKoBsnnMXP5PM2vCuHV7L37ORzoBJnchGwiCsIzZExDe9+f7To0DaOVZvsMMcxUDrqbIret8wded/KAdJu7wgTUO/j4S6LwUItCQ7gRsIb7/4xF4eHd4iK+y0ygqgDP5ibBN3WdzPDr4H4= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr1910842rnj; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d7100005031714236c38d4e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:23:25 -0800 From: pete wright To: Nic Reveles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing x11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:23:26 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:09:09 -0600 (CST), Nic Reveles wrote: > Hello, > > After reading freeBSD's handbook on installing x11, I have some simple > questions. > > I'm running 5.2.1 and wish to get xorg running. > Not sure if this possible in your situation but I would strongly suggest running 5.3. This is the currrent STABLE branch and has numerous fixes that the 5.2 branch does not have. > /usr/ports/x11/xorg does not exist. > It should exist. Before doing anything I would suggest running cvsup to get your ports tree up to date. A pkg_add -r cvsup should do the trick. An example config file for your ports tree should then be located in: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile > pkg_add -r xorg Just tells me that the file cannot be found. > This should work as well. You can also try: pkg_add -r xorg-clients pkg_add -r xorg-server > I've tried to upgrade to a newer version that comes with x11, but > everytime I chose Upgrade I can never find a passive FTP server that has > 5.2.1/release available. > Again, I strongly suggest running 5.3. > >From my position, what is the easiest way to get xorg running (not > XFree86)? > Hope this helps, pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:37:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id DB49A16A4CF; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:37:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:37:42 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nigel Moore Message-ID: <20050317223742.GG91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MySQL ports 'missing' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:37:43 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 11:14:51PM +0100, Nigel Moore wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to use FreeBSD ports to install MySQL server 4.1.10. The CLI > throws back an error to the effect that mysql-4.1.5-gamma.tar.gz is > unavailable. > > The website > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/databases/mysql41-server) > cannot find the ports. > > What' s the problem and how can I get around it? Your ports tree is out of date. Update it. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:52:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9634B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:52:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from titan.open-networks.net (dsl-202-173-176-254.qld.westnet.com.au [202.173.176.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CEE43D1F for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by titan.open-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC43BC for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:52:30 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <423A0A2E.50403@open-networks.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:52:30 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041023) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: no patch whats going on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:52:33 -0000 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ openbsd and netbsd have taken action on this, but i see no movment in the freebsd camp.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 22:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id EF95416A4CF; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:56:46 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: Timothy Smith Message-ID: <20050317225646.GI91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <423A0A2E.50403@open-networks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423A0A2E.50403@open-networks.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no patch whats going on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:56:47 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:52:30AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: > http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ That URL doesn't seem to have any details. > openbsd and netbsd have taken action on this, but i see no movment in > the freebsd camp.... Well, you wouldn't, on the freebsd-questions list. Security discussion happens on the freebsd-security mailing list. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 23:18:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED51B16A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF2743D53 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2952200wra for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:18:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=fcdsofqe74+9rracEKIzjG77+aKz5DZ1jekDKwyJJ8DEYroU74TPXIq7VPb0shvZ3yzPbdk05yXeP8DzkuU/DbJU4F6HvHntYz+wNBl/DuGt6NvwrraavH2f1aio9qjvYaHoQtqPqOfYJYIQ6fXYpfoNq7++xzaPlT51Iytke/o= Received: by 10.54.22.15 with SMTP id 15mr456680wrv; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:18:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:18:46 +0200 From: abu khaled To: "John A." In-Reply-To: <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: abu khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:48 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:21:44 -0500, John A. wrote: > The system uses a standard installation. I have only configured the > ethernet card with the proper ip address for the wireless side of the > network. The windoze box is running M$ firewall, but it works fine > and allows me to ping my gateway and the FBSD box. What concerns me > at this point is the fact that tcpdump takes so long to respond. If I > let it run, it will display a packet about one every 2 min. They seem > to be in time order with timestamps only ms apart. > > Let me know if any other information will help. > > John A. First, you have to excuse my English it is my third language and I do not have that much experience. This seems like a puzzle to me and I cannot figure out the topology of your network. * Can you ping the M$ box from FreeBSD? You need to enable incoming echo request in M$ firewall. * Are both systems on the same subnet? * Have you tried to plug the radio directly into FreeBSD box and test the connection like you did for M$ box? * Does your FreeBSD box have a firewall configured? You mentioned that the connection works if you plug the radio directly to M$ box. Does it also work when you plug both to the hub? If not then it might be a crossover cable problem. As you can see, many pices in this puzzle need sorting out. -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 23:30:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C3716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:30:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C5343D41 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so764946rne for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:30:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=a9oVSh8KyKg7EurN61QwaGj4CxOU7udTZ0oxhkdbyLrW3Zegoq0RXu9186FAaiRkNLMtP5a3BqolPV8RUgEkrRgbtM66MiuMcEiRFoHemx1uTqY4FXdJz1l2TPxKFKnaZBUdZcYP+W41pQ1onJB8n+rCMuwvVAO8+htPXUqmX4c= Received: by 10.38.14.69 with SMTP id 69mr2203135rnn; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.101.19 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:30:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:30:08 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503171423.j2HENk202905@clunix.cl.msu.edu> cc: Jerry McAllister cc: CARRIE WUERFEL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:30:10 -0000 > PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C. If you install this > other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going > to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots > it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system > off drive D. This is not a limitation of PC BIOSen in general. As a for-instance, I have a PC that will let me boot off of any of the 8 ide hard disks that it has attached to its mobo. Many newish PC moboen that I've looked at have similar/the same setup where you can choose HDD-0, HDD-1... on to HDD-N to boot from. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 17 23:38:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EE516A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:38:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54007.mail.yahoo.com (web54007.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9AB743D4C for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29860 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Mar 2005 23:38:57 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ujNBt/gTISjpgjZErdWDR85QnU7AFgQayqIflVotVEBzqFX6Y/njgIixgk6cPPBWkbQmXM/UWa0Hday8A9HBOwrG6IJVTyEv+n7AQcc9X55VsKiMKgqaOS9cVcmsUqpKj43jPKOoASIMLJ3A6121TRyfXTtOivojWmgLtOM0tBY= ; Message-ID: <20050317233857.29858.qmail@web54007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: Soo-Hyun Choi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:38:58 -0000 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > > Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? > (If it does, how much large?) $ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 198M /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 I have it installed from the package, otherwise it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space in /usr/ports. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 00:10:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F3216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B0A043D5A for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 00:10:55 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200503171603.j2HG3jI03524@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <200503171603.j2HG3jI03524@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111104654.11087.2.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:10:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:10:57 -0000 On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 11:03, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Jerry, > > > > Well, of course it's going to "muck with the other drive" what > > do you think writing the MBR does? Do you want to risk the MS system > > not booting? 95% of the time it will work OK but what if her system > > is in that 5% of the time that it doesen't? You going to go > > over to her house and fix it? What if she's got some nutty drive > > program on there like diskmanager that neither of you know about that > > is already on the mbr? > > Well, that is true. That is what I said - except for writing the MBR, > which is mucking with that other drive, but not installing other stuff > over the top of things. I don't know about those percentages. I have > never run in to that situation and had it fail. Make sure you copy all > impossible to replace files before doing anything like that anyway. > So, where does Carrie live? Can I drive there? > > > Carrie, > > > > PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C. If you install this > > other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going > > to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots > > it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system > > off drive D. > > Yup. > > > You need to leave well enough alone. You can pick up older PC's for a > > song > > these days. If you have critical data on your Dell then don't > > screw with it. Find some other PC that someone's going to throw away > > and load FreeBSD on that. You don't even need a monitor for it, you > > can telnet/ssh into it from your Dell system easily. > > Sure, if you have that opportunity. But, I'd rather reboot and > have use of a decently fast recent machine than consign myself to > an old slow clunker for one or the other systems. > > > > > Dual-boot systems never work anyway. The operator always ends up > > spending 99% of their time in one operating system. > > Well, if you get used to FreeBSD, probably you will stick with > that most of the time to get any work done. But, I find on > this machine, I use both of the OSen pretty much every day. > That is mostly because I have to interact with people who need > things in MS. > But, dual boot does work and work quite well, actually. > > ////jerry > > > > > Ted > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I agree that dual boot works fine, and is quite safe with moderate care. An alternative is hard disk caddies, which make it easy to have different operating systems on different disks, with no possibility whatsoever of one damaging the other. Of course, there is an increased risk that you may drop one of them... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 00:26:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8347316A4CF for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53909.mail.yahoo.com (web53909.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E60743D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80400 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 00:26:42 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=JJutL8othwjKH4hKyp9jVP8HFSlwxqWxQ2XNvTvM1bRWwtd9OChZFw3E3HCB54vty2L/jGUBkO1nkKMMLV2EOAs3yjSwZetHnxliiDg+LBNCndiegya3ObOSRMberJhuhq7wJTy+Z4MssLfhG1A6L76bb0NsZiyndHzd3Z+Tygk= ; Message-ID: <20050318002642.80398.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.157.0.215] by web53909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:26:42 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: kris@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: timothy@open-networks.net cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no patch whats going on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:26:44 -0000 it was said: >>On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:52:30AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: >> http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ > >That URL doesn't seem to have any details. > >> openbsd and netbsd have taken action on this, but i see no >>movment in >> the freebsd camp.... > >Well, you wouldn't, on the freebsd-questions list. Security >discussion happens on the freebsd-security mailing list. > >Kris > Hello, Click on the "Discussion" and "Solution" links for the details. Nothing has been said about this on the security@ list. According to the site, this hole was disclosed 28.2.05. I wonder if this is the issue that Theo deRaadt was complaining about.... Regards, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 00:35:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B6D16A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:35:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A99043D31; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:35:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.182]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDI00MDXUZ34S30@l-daemon>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDI00FYEUZ3W970@pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.60] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.209.6]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IDI0095MUZ2YG@l-daemon>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:35:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:35:26 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20050318002642.80398.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> To: stheg olloydson Message-id: <423A224E.40409@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime References: <20050318002642.80398.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050314) cc: timothy@open-networks.net cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org cc: kris@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no patch whats going on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:35:28 -0000 >>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:52:30AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: >>>http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ For the benefit of people on -questions who didn't read my reply on -security: This bug doesn't exist in FreeBSD, thus the lack of response from us. stheg olloydson wrote: > According to the site, this hole was disclosed 28.2.05. I wonder > if this is the issue that Theo deRaadt was complaining about.... No. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 00:47:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC4B16A4D0 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:47:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5859F43D55 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:47:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2005 00:47:01 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 01:47:01 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:46:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050318002642.80398.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> <423A224E.40409@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <423A224E.40409@freebsd.org> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3292350.JQqKGklHN6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503180147.01548@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: timothy@open-networks.net cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org cc: kris@freebsd.org cc: stheg olloydson cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: no patch whats going on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:47:03 -0000 --nextPart3292350.JQqKGklHN6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 18. M=E4rz 2005 01:35 schrieb Colin Percival: > >>>On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:52:30AM +1000, Timothy Smith wrote: > >>>http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/12825/info/ > > For the benefit of people on -questions who didn't read my reply > on -security: This bug doesn't exist in FreeBSD, thus the lack > of response from us. Thanks for that note! =2DHarry --nextPart3292350.JQqKGklHN6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCOiUFBylq0S4AzzwRAtz5AKCRzkRLLq7Zkzc59/MgjL7hqMgtCACgh97a +KDfRmNyOKAX+HxrN4bFpcI= =OQMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3292350.JQqKGklHN6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:16:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558F716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:16:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0C943D46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:16:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shchoi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so341324wri for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:16:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=f5PkvqruLzRrsIu3HvPIjYOdlhLkbeX7AfJKyD29pYirgqKk2AVPn+ynJMHV+h3rmHx5xxKNERaCJXnfGiGCA4RL2yPpm54MbPB4N/jfcyB+7s8QR2UAkYvBwx1D1ZYZqUns4ZnHj41j1xuoPPvS/3mE0x/4acnBt7WP9PEOTjo= Received: by 10.54.65.8 with SMTP id n8mr406301wra; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.8.52 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:16:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34b425c505031717163b79e424@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:16:06 +0000 From: Soo-Hyun Choi To: Rob In-Reply-To: <20050317233857.29858.qmail@web54007.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050317233857.29858.qmail@web54007.mail.yahoo.com> cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Soo-Hyun Choi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:16:07 -0000 What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the package? Did you mean it by going through FreeBSD ports (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I install OpenOffice from the package? SH- On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0800 (PST), Rob wrote: > Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > > > > Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? > > (If it does, how much large?) > > $ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 > 198M /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 > > I have it installed from the package, otherwise > it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space > in /usr/ports. > > R. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:25:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B0516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:25:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210D043D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005031801251701100svnkne>; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:25:17 +0000 Message-ID: <011101c52b59$671c2a70$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Soo-Hyun Choi" , "Rob" References: <20050317233857.29858.qmail@web54007.mail.yahoo.com> <34b425c505031717163b79e424@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:25:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:25:18 -0000 http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/ download the tgz and pkg_add it.. Check out the handbook on more information about ports and packages if need be.. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soo-Hyun Choi" To: "Rob" Cc: "FreeBSD questions" Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? > What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the package? Did you > mean it by going through FreeBSD ports (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I > install OpenOffice from the package? > > SH- > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0800 (PST), Rob > wrote: >> Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: >> > >> > Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? >> > (If it does, how much large?) >> >> $ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 >> 198M /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4 >> >> I have it installed from the package, otherwise >> it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space >> in /usr/ports. >> >> R. >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Make Yahoo! your home page >> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:31:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A35316A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:31:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f33.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DDD43D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timcleaver@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:31:46 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.210 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:31:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.210] X-Originating-Email: [timcleaver@hotmail.com] X-Sender: timcleaver@hotmail.com From: "Tim Cleaver" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:46 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 01:31:46.0428 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F9DBBC0:01C52B5A] Subject: make index failed: french/mozilla-flp failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:31:47 -0000 Hello all, After a cvsup yesterday I have run into the following problem when running either make index or portsdb -uU: Generating INDEX-5 - please wait..fr-mozilla-flp-1.7.5_1: "/usr/ports/www/mozilla-devel-gtk2" non-existent -- dependency list incomplete ===> french/mozilla-flp failed *** Error code 1 ******************************************************************** Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you have a complete and up-to-date ports collection. (INDEX builds are not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the "ports-all" collection, and have no "refuse" files.) If that is the case, then report the failure to ports@FreeBSD.org together with relevant details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version, your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings). Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched automatically with "make fetchindex". ******************************************************************** *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. I have already googled for this problem and came up with the thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/051719.html but all the solutions offered there are no help. I have run cvsup multiple times and have no refuse files. I also do not have mozilla-devel-gtk installed (I have no mozilla anything installed the reason why is another story though). the output of uname -a is: FreeBSD pc078650.sci.griffith.edu.au 5.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1 #7: Tue Nov 23 11:49:52 EST 2004 tim@pc078650.sci.griffith.edu.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNCONF i386 the output of find / -iname refuse is: /usr/share/examples/cvsup/refuse /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/refuse the output of pkg_info | grep moz is: (empty) the output of find / -iname moz | less is: (empty) my make.conf file is (essentially a copy of the example): # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.229.2.5 2004/10/09 18:38:57 dougb Exp $ # # NOTE: Please would any committer updating this file also update the # make.conf(5) manual page, if necessary, which is located in # src/share/man/man5/make.conf.5. # # /etc/make.conf, if present, will be read by make (see # /usr/share/mk/sys.mk). It allows you to override macro definitions # to make without changing your source tree, or anything the source # tree installs. # # This file must be in valid Makefile syntax. # # There are additional things you can put into /etc/make.conf. # You have to find those in the Makefiles and documentation of # the source tree. # # Note, that you should not set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX or MAKEOBJDIR # from make.conf (or as command line variables to make). # Both variables are environment variables for make and must be used as: # # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/big/directory make # # # The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for # generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in # certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value # of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to gcc. # The automatic setting of CFLAGS may be overridden using the # NO_CPU_CFLAGS variable below. # Currently the following CPU types are recognized: # Intel x86 architecture: # (AMD CPUs) athlon-mp athlon-xp athlon-4 athlon-tbird athlon k6-3 # k6-2 k6 k5 # (Intel CPUs) p4 p3 p2 i686 i586/mmx i586 i486 i386 # Alpha/AXP architecture: ev67 ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4 # Intel ia64 architecture: itanium # # (?= allows to buildworld for a different CPUTYPE.) # #CPUTYPE?=p4 #NO_CPU_CFLAGS= true # Don't add -march= to CFLAGS automatically #NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true # Don't add -march= to COPTFLAGS automatically # # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not recommended # or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any # nonstandard optimization settings to "-O" before submitting bug reports # without patches to the developers. # Note also that at this time the -O2 setting is known to expose bugs in # libalias(3), and possibly other parts of the system. # #CFLAGS= -O -pipe # # CXXFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C++ code. # Note that CXXFLAGS is initially set to the value of CFLAGS. 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Keypresses are accepted by the # BIOS before booting from disk, making it possible to give custom boot # parameters even when this is set to 0. # #BOOTWAIT=0 #BOOTWAIT=30000 # # By default, the system will always use the keyboard/video card as system # console. However, the boot blocks may be dynamically configured to use a # serial port in addition to or instead of the keyboard/video console. # # By default we use COM1 as our serial console port *if* we're going to use # a serial port as our console at all. Alter as necessary. # # COM1: = 0x3F8, COM2: = 0x2F8, COM3: = 0x3E8, COM4: = 0x2E8 # #BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT= 0x3F8 # # The default serial console speed is 9600. Set the speed to a larger value # for better interactive response. # #BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 115200 # # By default the 'pxeboot' loader retrieves the kernel via NFS. Defining # this and recompiling /usr/src/sys/boot will cause it to retrieve the kernel # via TFTP. This allows pxeboot to load a custom BOOTP diskless kernel yet # still mount the server's '/' (i.e. rather than load the server's kernel). # #LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT= YES # # # Kerberos 5 su (k5su) # If you want to use the k5su utility, define this to have it installed # set-user-ID. #ENABLE_SUID_K5SU= yes # # # CVSup update flags. Edit SUPFILE settings to reflect whichever distribution # file(s) you use on your site (see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/README for more # information on CVSup and these files). To use, do "make update" in /usr/src. # #SUP_UPDATE= yes # #SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup #SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 #SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org #SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile #PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile #DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile # # top(1) uses a hash table for the user names. The size of this hash # can be tuned to match the number of local users. The table size should # be a prime number approximately twice as large as the number of lines in # /etc/passwd. The default number is 20011. # #TOP_TABLE_SIZE= 101 # # Documentation # # The list of languages and encodings to build and install # #DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1 ru_RU.KOI8-R # # # sendmail # # The following sets the default m4 configuration file to use at # install time. Use with caution as a make install will overwrite # any existing /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Note that SENDMAIL_CF is now # deprecated. The value should be a fully qualified path name. # #SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/myconfig.mc # # The following sets the default m4 configuration file for mail # submission to use at install time. Use with caution as a make # install will overwrite any existing /etc/mail/submit.cf. The # value should be a fully qualified path name. # #SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC=/etc/mail/mysubmit.mc # # If you need to build additional .cf files during a make buildworld, # include the full paths to the .mc files in SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC. # #SENDMAIL_ADDITIONAL_MC=/etc/mail/foo.mc /etc/mail/bar.mc # # The following overrides the default location for the m4 configuration # files used to build a .cf file from a .mc file. # #SENDMAIL_CF_DIR=/usr/local/share/sendmail/cf # # Setting the following variable modifies the flags passed to m4 when # building a .cf file from a .mc file. It can be used to enable # features disabled by default. # #SENDMAIL_M4_FLAGS= # # Setting the following variables modifies the build environment for # sendmail and its related utilities. For example, SASL support can be # added with settings such as: # # with SASLv1: # SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL # SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib # SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl # # with SASLv2: # SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 # SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib # SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 # # Note: If you are using Cyrus SASL with other applications which require # access to the sasldb file, you should add the following to your # sendmail.mc file: # # define(`confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL',`GroupReadableSASLDBFile') # #SENDMAIL_CFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDADD= #SENDMAIL_DPADD= # # Setting SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID will install the sendmail binary as a # set-user-ID root binary instead of a set-group-ID smmsp binary and will # prevent the installation of /etc/mail/submit.cf. # This is a deprecated mode of operation. See etc/mail/README for more # information. # #SENDMAIL_SET_USER_ID= # # The permissions to use on alias and map databases generated using # /etc/mail/Makefile. Defaults to 0640. # #SENDMAIL_MAP_PERMS= # # Specify the X11 implementation being used X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg # added by use.perl 2005-02-04 18:36:52 PERL_VER=5.8.6 PERL_VERSION=5.8.6 and my cvsup-file is: # $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile,v 1.32 2004/05/24 06:23:15 cjc Exp $ # # This file contains all of the "CVSup collections" that make up the # FreeBSD-current ports collection. # # CVSup (CVS Update Protocol) allows you to download the latest CVS # tree (or any branch of development therefrom) to your system easily # and efficiently (far more so than with sup, which CVSup is aimed # at replacing). If you're running CVSup interactively, and are # currently using an X display server, you should run CVSup as follows # to keep your CVS tree up-to-date: # # cvsup ports-supfile # # If not running X, or invoking cvsup from a non-interactive script, then # run it as follows: # # cvsup -g -L 2 ports-supfile # # You may wish to change some of the settings in this file to better # suit your system: # # host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org # This specifies the server host which will supply the # file updates. You must change it to one of the CVSup # mirror sites listed in the FreeBSD Handbook at # http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html. # You can override this setting on the command line # with cvsup's "-h host" option. # # base=/var/db # This specifies the root where CVSup will store information # about the collections you have transferred to your system. # A setting of "/var/db" will generate this information in # /var/db/sup. Even if you are CVSupping a large number of # collections, you will be hard pressed to generate more than # ~1MB of data in this directory. You can override the # "base" setting on the command line with cvsup's "-b base" # option. This directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # # prefix=/usr # This specifies where to place the requested files. A # setting of "/usr" will place all of the files requested # in "/usr/ports" (e.g., "/usr/ports/devel", "/usr/ports/lang"). # The prefix directory must exist in order to run CVSup. # Defaults that apply to all the collections # # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html. *default host=cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix # If you seem to be limited by CPU rather than network or disk bandwidth, try # commenting out the following line. (Normally, today's CPUs are fast enough # that you want to run compression.) *default compress ## Ports Collection. # # The easiest way to get the ports tree is to use the "ports-all" # mega-collection. It includes all of the individual "ports-*" # collections, ports-all # These are the individual collections that make up "ports-all". If you # use these, be sure to comment out "ports-all" above. # # Be sure to ALWAYS cvsup the ports-base collection if you use any of the # other individual collections below. ports-base is a mandatory collection # for the ports collection, and your ports may not build correctly if it # is not kept up to date. #ports-base #ports-accessibility #ports-arabic #ports-archivers #ports-astro #ports-audio #ports-benchmarks #ports-biology #ports-cad #ports-chinese #ports-comms #ports-converters #ports-databases #ports-deskutils #ports-devel #ports-dns #ports-editors #ports-emulators #ports-finance #ports-french #ports-ftp #ports-games #ports-german #ports-graphics #ports-hebrew #ports-hungarian #ports-irc #ports-japanese #ports-java #ports-korean #ports-lang #ports-mail #ports-math #ports-mbone #ports-misc #ports-multimedia #ports-net #ports-net-mgmt #ports-news #ports-palm #ports-picobsd #ports-polish #ports-portuguese #ports-print #ports-russian #ports-science #ports-security #ports-shells #ports-sysutils #ports-textproc #ports-ukrainian #ports-vietnamese #ports-www #ports-x11 #ports-x11-clocks #ports-x11-fm #ports-x11-fonts #ports-x11-servers #ports-x11-themes #ports-x11-toolkits #ports-x11-wm so, I am really stumped with this error. I have deleted /usr/ports/mozex/Makefile.xpi and done a fresh cvsup to no avail. This is my first message to this list so hopefully it is to the right place and that I have followed all the requirements. Thankyou in advance for your help. thanks, Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:37:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE6916A4D0 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:37:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cowbert.2y.net (d46h180.public.uconn.edu [137.99.46.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2358F43D48 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:37:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net) Received: (qmail 65777 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2005 01:37:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:37:20 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050318013720.GH446@cowbert.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: PPP routing failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:37:22 -0000 Hi everyone - I'm experiencing some funky routing failures when I dialup netscape internet via user-level PPP: I can negotiate IPCP fine; get a point-to-point link via tun0: myaddr: 172.143.224.146; hisaddr: 63.152.0.70 When the default route is setup to 63.152.0.70, all of my packets are blackholed after the first router hop. I am not using NAT. The PPP link works perfectly fine in windows dialup networking. So I dunno what is wrong. When I look at the routing table in windows, it seems backwards: DEST NM GW IF default 0 myaddr ppp hisaddr 0xffffffff myaddr ppp localhost 0xff000000 localhost localhost myaddr 0xffffffff localhost localhost myaddr.255.255* 0xffffffff myaddr ppp multicast multicast myaddr ppp *this is the first 2 dotted quads of myaddr appended with 255.255 If I try to manually set these routes in 5.3-R, I still can't get out :( Setting ADD DEFAULT MYADDR doesn't work, because ppp will still think MYADDR is 0.0.0.0. Either I need sleep or something is funky here... -- Peter C. Lai University of Connecticut Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology Yale University School of Medicine SenseLab | Research Assistant http://cowbert.2y.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:38:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4641F16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:38:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CCB43D54 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.68.179.209] (helo=[172.16.0.26]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1DC6R1-000L8I-V4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:37:56 +0100 Message-ID: <423A30CA.1080901@freemail.hu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:37:14 +0100 From: Laszlo Zsolt Nagy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dummynet trick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:38:05 -0000 Hello, This is the beginning of my script: ipfw -q flush ipfw pipe 1 config bw 729kbit/s ipfw pipe 2 config bw 121kbit/s ipfw queue 1 config pipe 1 weight 94 ipfw queue 2 config pipe 1 weight 5 ipfw queue 3 config pipe 1 weight 1 ipfw queue 4 config pipe 2 weight 94 ipfw queue 5 config pipe 2 weight 5 ipfw queue 6 config pipe 2 weight 1 Everything runs okay except this: ipfw queue 3 config pipe 1 weight 1 results in: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument But when I change to this: ipfw queue 22 config pipe 1 weight 1 then it works just fine. What the hell is this? Laci p.s.: FreeBSD 4.8-p27 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 01:46:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D38D16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:46:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arzaga.net (adsl-64-109-180-25.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [64.109.180.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 593B943D46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:46:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from broohaha@arzaga.net) Received: (qmail 91183 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2005 01:47:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:47:58 -0600 From: Al Arzaga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050318014758.GA91150@arzaga.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: configure options when using port php5-extensions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:46:45 -0000 How does one install a module with the following equivalent configurations using the port php5-extensions? ./configure --with-unixODBC=shared,/usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 02:13:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE46216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from elsaurio.com.ar (200-32-4-157.prima.net.ar [200.32.4.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55CCF43D5C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:12:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l0kit0@exactas.org) Received: (qmail 16552 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 02:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 62-241-126-200.fibertel.com.ar) (200.126.241.62) by 200-32-4-157.prima.net.ar with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 02:12:28 -0000 From: Luciano Musacchio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:10:32 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503172310.33016.l0kit0@exactas.org> Subject: GEOM+Sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:13:03 -0000 if i make a 2-disks gstripe volume, then boot a 5.3 fbsd cd, sysinstall will recognize the disks? the bootstrap will work on a stripped disk? (with gstripe_load on /boot/loader.conf). The idea is to make a fresh install, I have 2 disks (same size) and want to make them stripped (even root filesystem). What's the best way to do it? (I would like to do it with sysinstall) thanks -- www.eXactas.org - La Universidad Evolutiva From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 02:40:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4FC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:40:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54003.mail.yahoo.com (web54003.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 542D043D1F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:40:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 14012 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 02:40:27 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Mg423V3ZuzE9Mvgf/VCt+/ZAcco+KC5+IMGomgMHu0qk7G2VajMRV5MV9hAX9u2lxd51/m/wBntkbinaNZdIIOQgkYLzEJVOWi6MPxgiQCuiAU4XORkCYU75WBqHsFNJ8w3KYbRAxrgRdH/chmUR1wtRZZfGOttUhjU2qvpKRl8= ; Message-ID: <20050318024027.14010.qmail@web54003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:40:27 PST Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: Soo-Hyun Choi In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:40:29 -0000 --- Soo-Hyun Choi wrote: > What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the > package? Did you > mean it by going through FreeBSD ports > (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I > install OpenOffice from the package? Download the .tgz file yourself and install the package manually; or install "portupgrade" from ports, and then do: portinstall -PP openoffice The -PP enforces to install from package collection only. Rob. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 03:08:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C17516A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B822743D2D; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.72])4CB95358319; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) [66.133.183.72]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27977-03-70; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (70-97-221-18.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [70.97.221.18])DB94D358078; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4C53BF3B1; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:08:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423A4647.5000709@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:08:55 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: sbp, camcontrol, and Tagged Queuing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:08:53 -0000 I posted this a while back and am still having the same problem. Can anyone offer any insight as to if the sbp man page suggestion about tagged queuing is something I should try? Is there any risk of screwing up my drives by trying this? Thanks, Drew -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Help Interpreting sbp0 Errors Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:43:21 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson I've been having problems with vinum volumes since an upgrade from 4.9 to 4.10 which I posted about here: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?41D748F0.1000303 However maybe that is the *symptom* instead of the *problem*. I shut down my system from the console and saw this output: --- BEGIN --- boot() called on cpu#0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 4 done Uptime: 28d20h48m39s sbp0:0:0 request timeout(mgm orb:0x0a550b14) ... reset start sbp0:0:0 request timeout(cmd orb:0x0a550c4c) ... agent reset (da2:sbp0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xb, scsi status == 0x0 sbp0:0:1 request timeout(cmd orb:0x0a5528a4) ... agent reset (da3:sbp0:0:0:1): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0xb, scsi status == 0x0 The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot. --- END --- da2 and da3 are two IDE drives in a firewire enclosure. These are also the drives that come up "referenced" after restarting. What do these errors mean? How can I correct them? Is the following section from the sbp man page applicable to my situation? Some (broken) HDDs don't work well with tagged queuing. If you have prob- lems with such drives, try ``camcontrol [device id] tags -N 1'' to dis- able tagged queuing. Thanks for your help! Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 03:11:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CD116A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xenial.mcc.ac.uk (xenial.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.203.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E282843D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by xenial.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DC7ti-000P4h-O7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:38 +0000 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2I3BcnH099899 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:38 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.13.1/8.12.6/Submit) id j2I3BcjJ099898 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:38 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:37 +0000 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050318031137.GA99419@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: How to include header files in makefiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:11:40 -0000 Hi all, I'm setting up a build system for a small project and I want to use included makefiles. I have a base.mk that looks like this: .PATH.h : ../ ../include .INCLUDES : .h CFLAGS = -O -pipe -Wall -g CFLAGS += $(.INCLUDES) OBJS = ${SRCS:R:S/$/.o/g} and a bin.mk that looks like this: include ../include/mk/base.mk all: ${BIN} ${BIN}: ${OBJS} ${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -o ${.TARGET} ${.ALLSRC} so that a makefile for a specific program looks like this: BIN = app SRCS = app.c LDFLAGS += -pthread include ../include/mk/bin.mk But I'm having a problem figuring out how to handle header files. I have some that are local to this binary, but others are in the project include directory. How can I include the .h files so the .c files are recompiled when the header files they require are changed? GNU make has 'make depend' but I'd like a better, BSDmake-centric way, if possible. Thanks for your help, jm -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 03:43:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F0216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:43:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4008A43D41 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:43:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johna9999@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so18808wra for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:43:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CFV7EhmG5PV39m4km13/i5mQmh6BuIc2rg2M+OYrr+RgE0ARl9Nu+e3zBQS1dMJ0bGK/MRme3H1PyuBerpOVeXaWfUBsii2notoflM9dKTUdoY9HtaSM7jO++Z218U6flSr0A+hB+5LMOvTakt7JKrBbst0fnBGy5zYQq0cmSz4= Received: by 10.54.65.8 with SMTP id n8mr490608wra; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.66 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:43:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ddef267050317194320705b57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:43:15 -0500 From: "John A." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "John A." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:43:16 -0000 No problem with the english, if you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have known. I can ping FBSD from M$, can't ping anything from FBSD. M$ box works when plugged into hub and directly into radio. All systems are on same subnet. FBSD box worked when plugged into a 100mb hub, but doesn't work when plugged into 10mb hub or directly into radio. Both hubs are 3Com and are working with other systems plugged into them. FBSD has no firwall configured. All I did was perform a standard installation loading all binaries and sources from ftp. I just tested another FBSD 5.3 box that I have and it does the same thing, works fine at 100mb, but appears to get lost at 10mb. Hope this answers some of your questions. John A. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:18:46 +0200, abu khaled wrote: > > First, you have to excuse my English it is my third language and I do > not have that much experience. > > This seems like a puzzle to me and I cannot figure out the topology of > your network. > > * Can you ping the M$ box from FreeBSD? You need to enable incoming > echo request in M$ firewall. > * Are both systems on the same subnet? > * Have you tried to plug the radio directly into FreeBSD box and test > the connection like you did for M$ box? > * Does your FreeBSD box have a firewall configured? > > You mentioned that the connection works if you plug the radio directly > to M$ box. Does it also work when you plug both to the hub? If not > then it might be a crossover cable problem. > > As you can see, many pices in this puzzle need sorting out. > > -- > Kind regards > Abu Khaled > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 04:23:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4196516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao05.cox.net (lakermmtao05.cox.net [68.230.240.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6783D43D66 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@bobj.org) Received: from mail.bobj.org ([68.101.66.44]) by lakermmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050318042343.CSTJ3789.lakermmtao05.cox.net@mail.bobj.org> for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:23:43 -0500 Received: from bobj.dyndns.org ([192.168.132.161]) (AUTH: PLAIN bobj, ) by mail.bobj.org with esmtp; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:23:42 -0500 From: Bob Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:23:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <423A4647.5000709@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <423A4647.5000709@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503172323.27821.bob89@bobj.org> cc: Drew Tomlinson Subject: Re: sbp, camcontrol, and Tagged Queuing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:23:44 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:08 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I posted this a while back and am still having the same problem. Can > anyone offer any insight as to if the sbp man page suggestion about tagged > queuing is something I should try? Is there any risk of screwing up my > drives by trying this? > Tagged queueing queues up multiple instructions for the drive simultaneously. The drive then attempts to sort them out and execute them in optimum order. Some drives that claim to support tagged queueing do not correctly do so, and don't perform well when it is used (and may lose data). If you set the queue size to one, as recommended in the passage you reference, then only one instruction will be issued to the drive at time, and it will behave like a drive without tagged queueing. It will do no harm to the drive. If the drive correctly implements tagged queueing, this will slow down the drive, but if it does not correctly implement it, then this may dramatically speed up the drive (and make it more stable). I have an external drive that manages 1.3 MBps transfers with queueing enabled, and 25 MBps transfers when I set the queue size to one. As for whether it will help your specific problem, I don't know, but I can't see how it would do any harm to test it. This issue is not specific to FreeBSD. Any OS that supports tagged queuing has problems with some drives. - Bob > Thanks, > > Drew > [...] > da2 and da3 are two IDE drives in a firewire enclosure. These are also > the drives that come up "referenced" after restarting. What do these > errors mean? How can I correct them? Is the following section from the > sbp man page applicable to my situation? > > Some (broken) HDDs don't work well with tagged queuing. If you have prob- > lems with such drives, try ``camcontrol [device id] tags -N 1'' to dis- > able tagged queuing. > > Thanks for your help! > > Drew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 06:48:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CB916A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:48:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E01B43D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2I6mIb08744; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric Kjeldergaard" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal cc: Jerry McAllister cc: CARRIE WUERFEL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Mucking with other drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:48:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eric > Kjeldergaard > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:30 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Jerry McAllister; CARRIE WUERFEL; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Mucking with other drive > > > > PC bioses only let you boot off of drive C. If you install this > > other drive as drive D then during the installation FreeBSD is going > > to have to write a boot loader onto C so that when the PC boots > > it will load the boot loader, which will then load the FreeBSD system > > off drive D. > > This is not a limitation of PC BIOSen in general. Yes, it is. > As a for-instance, > I have a PC that will let me boot off of any of the 8 ide hard disks > that it has attached to its mobo. So do I, it has an onboard ide raid controller as well. This is starting to get more common in the very latest systems, maybe the last 2 years of manufacture. But the majority of them out there are still stuck with booting from the first disk. This is one area where the name brand pc's have lagged behind, the cloner motherboards seem to have had this feature longer Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 07:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908ED16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6687E43D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from smtp.planet.nl (ip51cc8423.speed.planet.nl [81.204.132.35]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDJ009B8DAAKX@smtp14.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:10:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2I79vpH005548; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:09:57 +0100 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2I79uKB005547; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:09:56 +0100 Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:09:56 +0100 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200503160005.j2G05xY24480@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Jerry McAllister Message-id: <20050318070956.GA1105@Alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <20050315234343.GH794@Alex.lan> <200503160005.j2G05xY24480@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Authentication-warning: Alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Jason Henson Subject: Re: Boot problems afther reinstall windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:01 -0000 On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:05:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > timeout=10 > > > > default=c:\freebsd.bin > > > > [operating systems] > > > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP > > > > Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn > > > > c:\freebsd.bin="FreeBSD 5" > > > > > > > > This works for me. I still wonder why the stuff below didn't work. In > > > > the past I would do this with /stand/sysinstall. But I don't dare to do > > > > this with FreeBSD 5 because of drive geometric warnings. > > > > > > > > > > Remember there are two boot blocks, so to speak. > > > There is the MBR that lets you choose which slice to boot. There is > > > only one of those per disk and it lives in "sector 0" of the disk. > > > The MBR generally has a standard calling sequence (that the Bios calls) > > > and sets things up to a fairly standard condition and looks for > > > standard appearing boot sectors in slices and makes a standard > > > call to the selected slice's boot sector. Almost any MBR that > > > knows how to recognize a standard boot sector in a slice and lets > > > you choose between them if there are more than one can be used > > > interchangeably. > > > > > > Then there is the boot block with the actual boot loader that starts > > > pulling the OS from the bootable partition. On a multi boot disk > > > there are several - one per each bootable slice and they live in the > > > boot sector of each slice. Those are specific to the OS they are > > > booting. Though their calling sequence is standard, what they have > > > to do to load and start their own OS is not. > > > > Is it posible to boot one OS if you only have the MBR? > > No, you need the boot sector. If you have only that in the first > location, you can boot without an full MBR, I think, but not without > the boot sector that the MBR loads and jumps to. But its not posible to put the code of the boot sector in the MBR place? (i.e. doesn't fit) > > > I am guessing that you managed to overwrite or damage the MS slice' > > > boot sector while you were doing things, or didn't get it written > > > to the slice properly when you reloaded or something like that. > > > Even though you put the MBR back with FreeBSD's fdisk, did you > > > also make sure that the MS slice had its own boot loader? Anyway > > > you did when you put the MS boot loader back. So it works now. I think the anwser to you question should be no. It booted before I put the MBR back. > > The previous time I first installed windows and then FreeBSD 5. The > > difference this time is that I didn't use /stand/sysinstall. This > > because I would get into serious troubel. (I never found out how to > > force the right geometry) So I was thinking maybe sysinstall does > > something (like copy the MBR to the second boot location) that I didn't > > do manualy. > > I think you are using MBR for boot sector. I think you mean by word and not on disk. > The MBR is what goes > in sector 0 of the disk itself. The boot sector/record/block > goes in the first sector of the slice. The MBR lets you pick the > slice you want to boot and then loads its boot sector/block/record and > jumps to it in a standard location. MBR = /boot/boot0 (a copy of it) boot sector = /boot/boot1 What I was thinking is: Now windows overwrites the MBR. And I was thinking it would put the boot sector in the place of MBR. If this is the case then windows looses the capability to boot. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 07:25:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F98A16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:25:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA05543D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2I7PBb08833; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" , "\"Marco Greene (ML)\"" Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:25:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200503171952.j2HJqXP04586@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:25:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry > McAllister > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:53 AM > To: "Marco Greene (ML)" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > Well, by now we are gleefully off topic for this list, so... > Why not! ;-) > > The USA system attempts/purports to _protect_ the minorities. This > exists because supposedly the system tries to protect everyone, not > specifically the minorities. It is only an artifact that sometimes > minorities find themselves able to use the system to influence some > outcome. They do not seize control. They wield whatever > poser/influence > they can muster, but they do not seize control. > What control exists, they do seize. Certainly, much of the actual control of the US system resides lower down in the food chain among the professional bureaucrats who survive administration after administration, regardless of who happens to be at the top. But, there still is a lot of real power at the top, and the people at the top are also able to make decisions that have implications that stretch far, far beyond their own brief period in power. As for example the decision to invade Iraq. Long after the Republicans are out of power, the US is still going to be involved there. Because by that time there will have been such a great loss of American life that even the strongest Democrat will not be able to pull out, because the hawks will claim that if he does he's throwing away everything that that large number of soldiers have given their lives for, and nobody will be able to survive that kind of criticism. As a result we will have permanent military bases there. And as a result we will have to keep going back in there year after year whenever the population there (who really does not want bases) manages to get a strong enough government in place that can threaten those bases existence. And also, Saudi Arabia wants us in there because that way we will control oil production, and thus not destroy OPEC's power. Iraq is the only country in the world that has the oil reserves large enough to destroy OPEC if they wished, and OPEC is Saudi Arabia's child. And independent Iraq with it's own government has always been a threat to OPEC and now that is gone. And because of all of this, our Energy policy has been permanently altered to be oil-based. We will never be able to return to conservation, solar, geothermal and so on. The dial has been stuck on Oil and will remain there until all oil reserves in Saudia Arabia and Iraq have been completely tapped out. And because of that, American soldiers will continue to die over there until that happens in maybe a century or so. And this is -exactly- what the ultraconservatives want. They wanted a US that is the world's policeman with an economy that supports a tremendous military-industrial complex, and that is what they got. > Next, it was not exactly a failure. The use of alcohol went down > very significantly. > We don't really have any way of knowing that because none of this stuff was tracked, as it was illegal. And you might consider too that a still isn't practical in a densely populated area, it is likely that out West where the population density was much lower, that they were far more common than anyone would believe. > Sure, each 'ultra' group contains the seeds/tools of its own > destruction. No, not true. The Amish for example are definitely an off-the-bend "ultra" group, but they have a consistent internal philosophy, and the way they apply their philosophy is non hypocritical, thus they survive. The Quakers, the super-Mormons, even the survivalists, there are many of these out-in-left-field groups that are non-hypocritical in the application end. As a result they don't carry the seeds of their own destruction. Rather, there are other reasons that they can never grow beyond a small minority. There's plenty of stuff that you can fault the ultraliberals for, (stupidity, no common sense) but hypocrisy is not one of them. That particular problem is a speciality of the ultraconservatives. > So, lets leave this topic at that. Either the > ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy > themselves. > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 09:21:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D1216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:21:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BF543D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:21:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.209] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCDfR-0001lH-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:21:17 +0100 Received: from [84.151.184.162] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCDfR-0008CR-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:21:17 +0100 Message-ID: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:21:17 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: HDD idle shutdown. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:21:19 -0000 Hi, I wondered whether there is an option to shut down an idle HDD until it is needed again? I am using FreeBSD 5.x. thx in advance Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 10:25:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:25:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4743D55 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:25:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113E24ADAB; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:24:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:24:50 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Christian Tischler Message-ID: <20050318102450.GA54209@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HDD idle shutdown. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:25:07 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:21:17AM +0100, Christian Tischler wrote: > I wondered whether there is an option to shut down an idle HDD until it > is needed again? > I am using FreeBSD 5.x. /usr/ports/sysutils/ataidle Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 10:28:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE5A16A4D3 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:28:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA2943D55 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:28:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2IASGBM093092; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:28:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:26:32 +0100 Message-ID: <86ekedntbb.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, peter@datadok.no cc: peter@datadok.no Subject: sym driver broken in 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:28:43 -0000 is anybody else having trouble with the sym scsi driver on 5.3-stable systems? I have a machine here where a tar to SCSI tape (tar cf /dev/nsa0 /home/data) will pretty reliably chrash the machine. This being our file server, it's a tad inconvenient. I was suspecting that the tape drive was bad, but today's crash gave me some new data - the console was full of repeated camq_init: - cannot malloc array! followed by the uptime figures. dmesg output immediately after reboot had according to grep -c 676 of them, before the expected boot time messages: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-SECURITY #0: Fri Jan 7 04:09:28 UTC 2005 root@builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (2000.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xfc0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500000 real memory = 1006567424 (959 MB) avail memory = 975384576 (930 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) sym0: <895> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xcfffe000-0xcfffefff,0xcfffff00-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci0 sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym0: [GIANT-LOCKED] xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xcffffe80-0xcffffeff irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:02:df:39:9a atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff,0xd400-0xd40f,0xd800-0xd803,0xdc00-0xdc07,0xe000-0xe003,0xe400-0xe407 irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci1 ata1: channel #1 on atapci1 isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xe0000-0xe0fff,0xcd800-0xcf7ff,0xc8800-0xc8fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2000087768 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 16 steps (100% to 6.2%), currently 100.0% acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 38204MB [77622/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit) da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 35003MB (71687372 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted /home: mount pending error: blocks 1092 files 2 WARNING: /home/data/merplass was not properly dismounted xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 180 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 240 bytes xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 300 bytes I've been debugging this on and off for a while now. Tar to tape worked on the first couple of attempts, as far as I can tell from mt output compression is enabled in the drive (meaning there should be space for the data), but "excessive write errors" messages have been turning up in the syslog messages - as in Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): WRITE FILEMARKS. CDB: 10 0 0 0 2 0 Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:3,2 Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): Excessive write errors Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): Retries Exhausted Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) Mar 18 02:41:49 filehut kernel: (sa0:sym0:0:6:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. I was beginning to think I'd need to replace the tape drive, but the camq_init message made me think this could be a driver problem (the driver is afaik not supported in FreeBSD/amd64 at all, for example). The question is, what's the next reasonable debugging step here? (and I know you're dying to ask - we do rsync to an off-site location twice a day) - P -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 10:47:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934DA16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail01.oxygen.az (mail01.oxygen.az [212.47.128.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D86F43D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:47:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tofik@oxygen.az) Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.47.129.8]) by mail01.oxygen.az with esmtp; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:46:43 +0400 Message-ID: <423AB190.9080406@oxygen.az> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:46:40 +0400 From: Tofik Suleymanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgnezdov@sergei.homeunix.org References: <4557.24.98.86.57.1110773047.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto monitor system security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:47:20 -0000 Sergei Gnezdov wrote: >On 2005-03-14, Jerry Bell wrote: > > >>There are many tools that will send alerts to you, but very few that will >>work "out of the box", without some level of tuning. There is a >>collection of them here: >>http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-4.phtml and here: >>http://www.syslog.org/Web_Links+index-req-viewlink-cid-19.phtml >> >> > >I see lots of log analizer tools. Which one is a good choice? > > /usr/ports/security/logcheck works for me fine. -- T.M.Suleymanov tofik@oxygen.az ............................................ crypto anarchy, encryption, digital money, anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero knowledge, contrculture, information markets, black markets, collapse of governments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 10:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BCE16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41506.mail.yahoo.com (web41506.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7E2E43D1F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cyber_mill@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 13435 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 10:48:25 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=M/2P8wG0brTniFqNRw+yuaX26CcX72noUxf9zM1KjBspys3F/1NVpEo0g2UyUGublMbVTWm8F9OVPyqLydEzx2+DVDumtgOZq4nYBrou4foobqt/YWk9lIfLyXgxw78yRwvhWh18KYlq6JZ0RvJNUc4X+kTs5kwE1p95PcpA9tA= ; Message-ID: <20050318104825.13433.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [167.205.22.104] by web41506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:48:25 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: emil fakhruzi To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: dvd iso with complete port collections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:48:26 -0000 hi.. can i ask for dvd iso for the next FreeBSD-Release with the latest complete english port collections. i want to use FreeBSD as a desktop and since i don't have an internet connection at home, cd install is my only choice. and i think its easy for me to install from dvd, since i can install all the ports available.. thanks.. regards.. -M!ll- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 11:14:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A504516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:14:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B0C43D54 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from humprhey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so131608wri for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:14:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a5WKlk+0zjA5kZo78ucIJMREDHIEukvgxTgBkTDjkoberqBktemU3YOPz4+qq849sWqMv7Qie3U7xDonL7+LXsOVuzKw98M0CoCPOg8wO3ncbPZzw5Lkw04PDesiW0BnqVgxi5npk7o5Ky+hTqxxIOXFLw3cJLdeXrHFdkpGvr0= Received: by 10.54.35.69 with SMTP id i69mr1564236wri; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([80.38.223.137]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d74sm652571wra.2005.03.18.03.14.48; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:14:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423AB822.5020908@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:14:42 +0100 From: Darksidex User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: es-es, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with USB HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:14:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 When I conect my external HD I get this message: | umass0: Cypress Semiconductor USB2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 | umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) | da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 | da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device | da0: 1.000MB/s transfers | da0: 190782MB (390721968 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 24321C) And if I boot my computer with it connected I get the following error: | Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel | fault virtual address = 0x21 | fault code = Supervisor read, page not present | instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc044f50c | stack pointer = 0x10:0xd57d7c58 | frame pointer = 0x10:0xd57d7c58 | code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b | = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 | processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 | current process = 36 (swi5: clock sio) | trap number = 12 | panic: page fault | Uptime: 14s I have compiled my kernel (5.3-STABLE) with device EHCI in order to be able to transfer files as faster as posible. The external hd propierties: 2 partitions of 90GB, and both are fat32 formatted, I need it to share information with windows. Can I do something to be able to boot my computer with the hd connected? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCOrgiLWSOuibjjvIRAn86AKCIzeakPHQUHdMBfOR65j4i8hPwzgCgjE2n z3T/ZQIODALbcuHa6vcIXSA= =l1LI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 11:23:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384C16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:23:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7021243D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:23:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:23:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:23:18 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:23:24 -0000 I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this windows machine? I mean, can my login to my FreeBSD server at home be *monitored* by someone while I'm using this windows machine at work? Can the keystrokes that I use *in* PuTTY be seen by anybody on this windows network at work. If so, what can I do about it to be more safe? I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 11:31:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B24B43D5E for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2IBV8Ir025916; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:10 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:08 +0000 Message-Id: <1111145468.882.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:31:37 -0000 On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 12:23 +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ > ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this windows > machine? I mean, can my login to my FreeBSD server at home be > *monitored* by someone while I'm using this windows machine at work? > Can the keystrokes that I use *in* PuTTY be seen by anybody on this > windows network at work. If so, what can I do about it to be more safe? PuTTY using ssh establishes an encrypted tunnel between the client and the server, and this makes you pretty secure from network sniffing on the school network or elsewhere. However, keystrokes are a different matter - a keystroke monitoring program on your windows PC will grab keystrokes regardless of the application you're using. Such programs are not unknown... An attempted 220 million pound robbery in London was just attempted using keystroke monitoring software to get account numbers and passwords from an otherwise secure system. So if your windows machine is compromised, everything you do on it will be compromised, period. That's your point of vulnerability, IMHO. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 11:37:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803CC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:37:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demon.noconname.org (19.Red-80-26-109.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.26.109.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DD543D41 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:37:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jncastellano@noconname.org) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [192.168.0.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by demon.noconname.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4236435CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:34:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423ABD5F.5010007@noconname.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:37:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Nicol=E1s_Castellano?= Organization: No cON Name User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070005080401070404030503" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jncastellano@noconname.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:37:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070005080401070404030503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ >ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this windows >machine? I mean, can my login to my FreeBSD server at home be >*monitored* by someone while I'm using this windows machine at work? >Can the keystrokes that I use *in* PuTTY be seen by anybody on this >windows network at work. If so, what can I do about it to be more safe? > >I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being >worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) > > Mmm. Ssh only can *certificate* you that no one is capturing trafic between server and client (freebsd and putty), ssh stablishes a ciphred tunnel consistent in a two keys (private and public). Ssh client ( or putty in your case ) don't *warranty* if your computer client is running a keylogger or a trojan horse. If client is keylogged or trojaned you are died :-D, buy an antivirus or something for M$ Platforms. In *nix systems, relay to the administrator... -- Jose Nicolas Castellano Presidente - Asociación No cON Name Tel: +34 616 727 675 E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org WWW: www.noconname.org --------------070005080401070404030503-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 11:54:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CD116A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5C143D2F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eyefull@eml.cc) Received: from web2.messagingengine.com (web2.internal [10.202.2.211]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C449C62783 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by web2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 363C979C; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:53:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1111146835.16154.218629398@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: nuKmCZW0zxGHXJQmHY0yqus/SdEY0FIVXrDbtTuoD5Sw 1111146835 From: "TN" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:53:55 -0800 Subject: PCMCIA Network card not recognized during install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:02 -0000 I have a 560E Thinkpad with a floppy and no CD Drive, with a 3CCE589ET pccard nic (supported by ep(4)). I know that everything is fully functional because all components work when booted from tom's root boot linux floppy (www.toms.net/rb/). I want to do a FTP install from a floppy boot, but sysinstall isn't recognizing the network card at all. If I go to Configure->Choose Media->FTP, but ep0 is not detected. I even tried putting if_ep.ko and pccard.ko on a floppy from a seperate machine (same release) and loaded them, but no luck. What am I doing wrong? P.S. This is 5.3-RELEASE. Should I try an older release? -- eyefull@eml.cc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:02:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6314916A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:02:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886BB43D5C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:02:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alistair.sutton@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so121907rnf for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:02:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=C2TvoHx9OR0PEPuF4914ZqFcftGvpj35+tDoSl/k6rnJPT4SY0+s6KDCgiPAbVIOmCa30/rKcffgHLY9BQUJgVIZtnsycfZk2Dk0We+b6G8jxwgE/LQ9J8lM2D7jdbdt/Yq4mMkF8A61ybKh9/BgKcOVfYNh+tWOeoq1QTc8gxY= Received: by 10.38.66.45 with SMTP id o45mr2691724rna; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.32 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:02:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:02:02 +0000 From: Alistair Sutton To: Darksidex In-Reply-To: <423AB822.5020908@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AB822.5020908@gmail.com> cc: alistair.sutton@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with USB HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alistair Sutton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:02:03 -0000 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:14:42 +0100, Darksidex wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > When I conect my external HD I get this message: > > | umass0: Cypress Semiconductor USB2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 > | umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) > | da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > | da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > | da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > | da0: 190782MB (390721968 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 24321C) Does the drive work after this? > I have compiled my kernel (5.3-STABLE) with device EHCI in order to be > able to transfer files as faster as posible. > > The external hd propierties: > 2 partitions of 90GB, and both are fat32 formatted, I need it to share > information with windows. > > Can I do something to be able to boot my computer with the hd connected? What version of FreeBSD are you running? There have been a few updates in RELENG_5 for EHCI support which has meant that my USB2.0 devices now get recognised at 40MB/s instead of 1MB/s. Al -- LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/everlone GPG/PGP: http://www.no-dns-yet.org.uk/~everlone/pubkey.gpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:09:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FED16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:09:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CDF43D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sovrevage@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so80272wri for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pi33B3o4BEyEBE72rI4i+dQDyUynD2IZJ3DayE+hQlzh0HPCRJbZOD43J0VWd93w1XMCcHO02y7zV/Zp/7T9vylB4RIunFELj7pQrWfnmx4N6Lhf6AK40IGBw+7wV/2+1KebT1d1nFwHiPfy0E22bDbP0HcQJpZU1DKuCX5RpG4= Received: by 10.54.11.62 with SMTP id 62mr2484834wrk; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.21.47 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:09:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:09:34 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stian_=D8vrev=E5ge?= To: Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423ABD5F.5010007@noconname.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> <423ABD5F.5010007@noconname.org> Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stian_=D8vrev=E5ge?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:09:35 -0000 Another problem is the Man-in-the-Middle problem, where you are led to believe that you are communicating with your home-computer, but your session is relayed on through a decrypting/encrypting gateway which is under someone else's controll. To counteract this, you should obtain your home-computer's SSH fingerprint, and verify that this is in fact the machine you are connecting to when launching putty at school. Regards, Stian On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:37:03 +0100, Jos=E9 Nicol=E1s Castellano wrote: > Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >=20 > >I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ > >ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this windows > >machine? I mean, can my login to my FreeBSD server at home be > >*monitored* by someone while I'm using this windows machine at work? > >Can the keystrokes that I use *in* PuTTY be seen by anybody on this > >windows network at work. If so, what can I do about it to be more safe? > > > >I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being > >worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) > > > > > Mmm. Ssh only can *certificate* you that no one is capturing trafic > between server and client (freebsd and putty), ssh stablishes a ciphred > tunnel consistent in a two keys (private and public). >=20 > Ssh client ( or putty in your case ) don't *warranty* if your computer > client is running a keylogger or a trojan horse. If client is keylogged > or trojaned you are died :-D, buy an antivirus or something for M$ > Platforms. In *nix systems, relay to the administrator... >=20 > -- > Jose Nicolas Castellano > Presidente - Asociaci=F3n No cON Name > Tel: +34 616 727 675 > E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org > WWW: www.noconname.org >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:17:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF79516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demon.noconname.org (19.Red-80-26-109.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.26.109.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788543D46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jncastellano@noconname.org) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [192.168.0.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by demon.noconname.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3928835FD for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:14:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423AC6A9.5010408@noconname.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:41 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Nicol=E1s_Castellano?= Organization: No cON Name User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> <423ABD5F.5010007@noconname.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070008090705090400050904" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jncastellano@noconname.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070008090705090400050904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stian Øvrevåge wrote: >Another problem is the Man-in-the-Middle problem, where you are led to >believe that you are communicating with your home-computer, but your >session is relayed on through a decrypting/encrypting gateway which is >under someone else's controll. > > Of course exists the man-in-the middle by suplanting primarily keys, and other possibility is exploiting any vulnerability of server and client. But if anyone is trying to MITM you, client alerts you that keys don't match to primarily ssh handshaking keys and possibly someone is MITM you. . -- Jose Nicolas Castellano Presidente - Asociación No cON Name Tel: +34 616 727 675 E-Mail : jncastellano@noconname.org WWW: www.noconname.org --------------070008090705090400050904-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:19:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25C916A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:19:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F4C43D48 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:19:32 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Friday, 18 March 2005, 08:19:08 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:19:07 -0400 Message-ID: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:20:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 12:19:07.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE9E3A40:01C52BB4] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050125) Subject: dd cd image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:19:59 -0000 Hi people I am trying to do an iso image of DATA CD and i am using this command line %dd if=/dev/acd0 of=cd.iso and this is the error dd: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.000304 secs (0 bytes/sec) How can i made and iso image of a data cd ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:32:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD65916A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:32:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDAC43D49 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from humprhey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so103731rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:32:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i6hBrvKY0lv1Y0/34ywnPm13OYLEd3z1aEykS4z14pctWpzXC8RyqCOOkR4SCzjdXFWB1aXZTuMIEAv4nHYBde+QMUr70lj4lkjio2WhKgmcJt3NqayK2wPBO6ea4qDcT0jvrjxY8HgByAm6UuwJdey3isvuATU5oVVL1AecQyc= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr2398075rnb; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([80.38.223.137]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m35sm30860rnd.2005.03.18.04.32.25; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:32:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423ACA54.1080009@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:32:20 +0100 From: Darksidex User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: es-es, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> In-Reply-To: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: dd cd image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:32:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Osmany Guirola Cruz escribió: | Hi people | I am trying to do an iso image of DATA CD and i am using this command line | | %dd if=/dev/acd0 of=cd.iso | and this is the error | | dd: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument | 0+0 records in | 0+0 records out | 0 bytes transferred in 0.000304 secs (0 bytes/sec) | | | How can i made and iso image of a data cd ? without mkisofs you can use cat: cat /dev/acd0 >> cd.iso -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCOspULWSOuibjjvIRAmI6AKCR6/GEfCB/T4lZdeuPxFk4/iE8RwCfdqUm UpBqCLwD/J9aDYVtwAFF/e8= =yPz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:40:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE3416A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35543D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 298093 for multiple; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:37:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:39:43 -0500 To: Dick Hoogendijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:00 -0000 On Mar 18, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ > ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this > windows > machine? I mean, can my login to my FreeBSD server at home be > *monitored* by someone while I'm using this windows machine at work? > Can the keystrokes that I use *in* PuTTY be seen by anybody on this > windows network at work. If so, what can I do about it to be more safe? > > I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being > worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) The SSH session, I believe, should be secure from sniffing (assuming you're using protocol 2). If someone puts a keystroke logger on your windows machine, they will get the password. If they put a hardware logger on your computer, they will get the data. If they are watching over your shoulder just as you misstype your password as your username, you're probably in trouble. If someone is viewing your Windows desktop using remote monitoring software (like a modified VNC), they'll see your session. If putty is trojaned, you're in trouble. If you're *really* paranoid about the connection, grab knoppix and use it's ssh client to log in remotely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:50:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BDD16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B292043D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:50:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so199562wra for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:50:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=S8nzXafM5TKr5GiPNk2y4wuSO6JWVUAiv5Mad4p1b38EZ09dqxo5G9+U2JDLpDg2xegvfi8ip+cEeroiSeeuSWH6l2RpH9cjox1h2SVDwDdqcfvVKZMpjr9Zdo9/T02CY/PkjxIgQq99uB6WVxi2pZjAC3f334OEleqTRdktRqc= Received: by 10.54.76.14 with SMTP id y14mr163655wra; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 04:50:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:50:01 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: "John A." In-Reply-To: <1ddef267050317194320705b57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317194320705b57@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:50:02 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:43:15 -0500, John A. wrote: > No problem with the english, if you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have known. > > I can ping FBSD from M$, can't ping anything from FBSD. > > M$ box works when plugged into hub and directly into radio. > > All systems are on same subnet. If the other machines you are trying to ping have M$ firewall enabled, then you need to enable incoming echo request in the M$ firewall ICMP page. > > FBSD box worked when plugged into a 100mb hub, but doesn't work when > plugged into 10mb hub or directly into radio. Both hubs are 3Com and > are working with other systems plugged into them. > Try to check the output of "ifconfig" on the FreeBSD box when you connect it to the 100m hub / 10m hub / radio. Also try "route get " on the FreeBSD box and check the output. Does it provide the correct interface/gateway? > FBSD has no firwall configured. All I did was perform a standard > installation loading all binaries and sources from ftp. > > I just tested another FBSD 5.3 box that I have and it does the same > thing, works fine at 100mb, but appears to get lost at 10mb. > > Hope this answers some of your questions. > > John A. Am I the only one interested in this topic? Where is the rest of our lovely community? Come on guys let's scratch those gray cells and help John out. -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 12:59:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7161A16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:59:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FE943D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:59:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DCH2Y-0000qG-AH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:57:22 +0100 Received: from 216.223.161.50 ([216.223.161.50]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:57:21 +0100 Received: from kkobb by 216.223.161.50 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:57:21 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin Kobb Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:57:37 -0500 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.223.161.50 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd cd image X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:59:06 -0000 Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > Hi people > I am trying to do an iso image of DATA CD and i am using this command line > > %dd if=/dev/acd0 of=cd.iso > and this is the error > > dd: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument > 0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 0.000304 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > > How can i made and iso image of a data cd ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I think if you specify a block size (bs=2k or greater) it will work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 13:06:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF50D16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:06:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F04B43D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:06:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCHB5-0000Mf-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:11 +0100 Received: from [84.151.184.162] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCHB5-0001X8-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:11 +0100 Message-ID: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:11 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:06:13 -0000 Hi, I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like VMware virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration would be the performance of the overal setup. Any hints or suggenstions would be great. thx Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 13:16:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256CC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9961243D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2IDGpXm084947; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:16:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <423AD486.9000008@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:15:50 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Abu Khaled References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317194320705b57@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "John A." cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:16:53 -0000 Abu Khaled wrote: ... > Am I the only one interested in this topic? Where is the rest of our > lovely community? > Come on guys let's scratch those gray cells and help John out. > Although progress is being made on getting detail, it's still insufficient (and, not entirely consistent? if the connection in question is *wired* then probably the fact that a wireless access point exists on the same subnet is not likely relevant). Anyway, I do not have a clear vision of what connects to what, how. The relevant portions of rc.conf, ifconfig output (and ipconfig output from the M$ box), the syntax of the tcpdump, the specs of the box, and other relevant details might spur more response. A simple ASCII representation of the network might help. FWIW, I've seen tcpdump behave poorly if the box or card just doesn't have the horsepower required to parse the volume of all the packets being seen on the network. re: can't ping M$ box... M$ firewall sounds like the most likely culprit. If you try to ping and get no response, does the M$ box nevertheless show up in FreeBSD's arp table (compare arp -an before and after the ping test)? If the MAC address shows up, you've got connectivity just fine, but something's dropping the ICMP packets. PS to Abu -- your written English is as good or better than many native speakers of the language, so don't apologize for it. =) -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 13:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890F016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1590443D5A for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370E54ACF9; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:22:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:22:15 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20050318132215.GA55169@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:31 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:39:43AM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > If someone puts a keystroke logger on your windows machine, they will > get the password. > > If they put a hardware logger on your computer, they will get the data. > > If they are watching over your shoulder just as you misstype your > password as your username, you're probably in trouble. > > If someone is viewing your Windows desktop using remote monitoring > software (like a modified VNC), they'll see your session. > > If putty is trojaned, you're in trouble. You can also enable OPIE passwords. Using opie(4) in combination with ssh should solve some (though not all) of your problems w.r.t. sniffing and key logging. Of course, if you logged into a machine using opie, and *then* typed some other (non one-time) passwords from withing that session, you'd be still at the mercy of a local key logger or trojaned ssh client. So you've got know what you're doing and use common sense :) Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 13:22:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9605716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92DB43D5C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4869113CA4A for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:22:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:22:46 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 2607 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2005 13:22:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 13:22:29 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:22:29 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: cpghost@cordula.ws In-Reply-To: <20050318102450.GA54209@fw.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <20050318142056.Q2589@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> <20050318102450.GA54209@fw.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HDD idle shutdown. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:49 -0000 * cpghost@cordula.ws [2005-03-18 11:24 +0100] > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:21:17AM +0100, Christian Tischler wrote: > > I wondered whether there is an option to shut down an idle HDD until it > > is needed again? > > I am using FreeBSD 5.x. > > /usr/ports/sysutils/ataidle Note that, while this indeed will spin down your hdd, the system will most likely spin it up again after a short period of time, unless you modify some settings. Especially the cron system may cause your hdd to spin up every once in a while. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:02:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FD216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:02:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7E0343D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan@confabulator.net) Received: (qmail 83952 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 14:02:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.83?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 14:02:35 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 209.197.24.227 Message-ID: <423AE068.1060506@confabulator.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:06:32 -0600 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:02:36 -0000 I really doubt that it is possible. I would look at OpenExhange: http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/ Christian Tischler wrote: > Hi, > I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like > VMware virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an > combination would be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). > The next consideration would be the performance of the overal setup. > > Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > thx > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:03:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2458C16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:03:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A5843D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142675DC7; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03755-03; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B6A5CF4; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:03:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423ADF7E.9090306@mac.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:02:38 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emil fakhruzi References: <20050318104825.13433.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050318104825.13433.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dvd iso with complete port collections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:03:29 -0000 emil fakhruzi wrote: > hi.. can i ask for dvd iso for the next FreeBSD-Release with the latest > complete english port collections. Sure, you can ask, but the complete port collection simply won't fit on a DVD. [ The total size is somewhere around 25-30 GB at present... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:13:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09B516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:13:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.flncs.com (ns1.flncs.com [204.0.142.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDE843D1F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tradigan@newrevolutions.net) Received: (qmail 31298 invoked by uid 98); 18 Mar 2005 14:13:58 -0000 Received: from 66.166.153.84 by beastie.flncs.com (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/704. Clear:RC:1(66.166.153.84):. 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Processed in 0.171421 secs) Received: from h-66-166-153-84.phlapafg.covad.net (HELO l03ptradigan) (tradigan@newrevolutions.net@66.166.153.84) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 14:13:57 -0000 From: "Timothy Radigan" To: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:14:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcUrxL8OgO19WaZGRhStVzfN0rVdDg== X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <111115523869831290@beastie.flncs.com> Message-Id: <20050318141358.EFDE843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: network: not found messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:14:00 -0000 Hey all, I've been running into some issues booting up and starting certain services. During boot up, I see a lot of "network: not found" messages. Also, when I try to start samba, I get that message and even though smbd starts, nmbd does not start and gives me the error described above. I also see it when starting ProFTPd as well as some other services. I've checked and double checked my rc.conf and don't see anything wrong with it. Anyone have any ideas? I'll post any configuration files that people would like to see. Thanks! Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9406716A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:38:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EC143D2F; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050318143847.XMSX12278.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:38:47 -0500 From: To: "Peter C. Lai" , , , Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050318013720.GH446@cowbert.2y.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: PPP routing failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:38:49 -0000 Check out the install guide at http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php it has the best step by step instructions for using userppp. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter C. Lai Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:37 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPP routing failure Hi everyone - I'm experiencing some funky routing failures when I dialup netscape internet via user-level PPP: I can negotiate IPCP fine; get a point-to-point link via tun0: myaddr: 172.143.224.146; hisaddr: 63.152.0.70 When the default route is setup to 63.152.0.70, all of my packets are blackholed after the first router hop. I am not using NAT. The PPP link works perfectly fine in windows dialup networking. So I dunno what is wrong. When I look at the routing table in windows, it seems backwards: DEST NM GW IF default 0 myaddr ppp hisaddr 0xffffffff myaddr ppp localhost 0xff000000 localhost localhost myaddr 0xffffffff localhost localhost myaddr.255.255* 0xffffffff myaddr ppp multicast multicast myaddr ppp *this is the first 2 dotted quads of myaddr appended with 255.255 If I try to manually set these routes in 5.3-R, I still can't get out :( Setting ADD DEFAULT MYADDR doesn't work, because ppp will still think MYADDR is 0.0.0.0. Either I need sleep or something is funky here... -- Peter C. Lai University of Connecticut Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology Yale University School of Medicine SenseLab | Research Assistant http://cowbert.2y.net/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:44:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3079E16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:44:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pukruppa.net (reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D564E43D48 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2IEkX2j022914; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:46:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.net) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:46:33 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050318154357.Q1533@pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "\"Marco Greene \(ML\)\"" Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:44:15 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry >> McAllister >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:53 AM >> To: "Marco Greene (ML)" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt >> >> >> Well, by now we are gleefully off topic for this list, so... >> > > Why not! ;-) > >> >> The USA system attempts/purports to _protect_ the minorities. This >> exists because supposedly the system tries to protect everyone, not >> specifically the minorities. It is only an artifact that sometimes >> minorities find themselves able to use the system to influence some >> outcome. They do not seize control. They wield whatever >> poser/influence >> they can muster, but they do not seize control. >> > > What control exists, they do seize. Certainly, much of the actual > control > of the US system resides lower down in the food chain among the > professional > bureaucrats who survive administration after administration, regardless > of > who happens to be at the top. But, there still is a lot of real power at > the top, and the people at the top are also able to make decisions that > have > implications that stretch far, far beyond their own brief period in > power. > > As for example the decision to invade Iraq. Long after the Republicans > are > out of power, the US is still going to be involved there. Because by > that > time there will have been such a great loss of American life that even > the strongest Democrat will not be able to pull out, because the hawks > will claim that if he does he's throwing away everything that that large > number of soldiers have given their lives for, and nobody will be able to > survive that kind of criticism. > > As a result we will have permanent military bases there. And as a result > we will have to keep going back in there year after year whenever the > population there (who really does not want bases) manages to get a strong > enough government in place that can threaten those bases existence. And > also, Saudi Arabia wants us in there because that way we will control oil > production, and thus not destroy OPEC's power. Iraq is the only country > in the world that has the oil reserves large enough to destroy OPEC if > they wished, and OPEC is Saudi Arabia's child. And independent Iraq with > it's own government has always been a threat to OPEC and now that is > gone. > > And because of all of this, our Energy policy has been permanently > altered > to be oil-based. We will never be able to return to conservation, solar, > geothermal and so on. The dial has been stuck on Oil and will remain > there > until all oil reserves in Saudia Arabia and Iraq have been completely > tapped > out. And because of that, American soldiers will continue to die over > there > until that happens in maybe a century or so. And this is -exactly- what > the ultraconservatives want. They wanted a US that is the world's > policeman > with an economy that supports a tremendous military-industrial complex, > and that is what they got. > >> Next, it was not exactly a failure. The use of alcohol went down >> very significantly. >> > > We don't really have any way of knowing that because none of this > stuff was tracked, as it was illegal. And you might consider too that > a still isn't practical in a densely populated area, it is likely > that out West where the population density was much lower, that > they were far more common than anyone would believe. > >> Sure, each 'ultra' group contains the seeds/tools of its own >> destruction. > > No, not true. The Amish for example are definitely an off-the-bend > "ultra" > group, but they have a consistent internal philosophy, and the way they > apply their philosophy is non hypocritical, thus they survive. The > Quakers, > the super-Mormons, even the survivalists, there are many of these > out-in-left-field > groups that are non-hypocritical in the application end. As a result > they > don't carry the seeds of their own destruction. Rather, there are other > reasons that they can never grow beyond a small minority. > > There's plenty of stuff that you can fault the ultraliberals for, > (stupidity, > no common sense) but hypocrisy is not one of them. That particular > problem > is a speciality of the ultraconservatives. > >> So, lets leave this topic at that. Either the >> ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy >> themselves. >> > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) So beastie stands for freedom, democracy, pursuit of happiness and a great operating system for everyone? Just a question from Central Europe. Uli. ********************************************* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * ********************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:47:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4EA16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752F543D49 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:47:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2IEkrm08499; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503181446.j2IEkrm08499@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tedm@toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Ted Mittelstaedt" at Mar 17, 2005 11:25:01 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "\"\"Marco Greene ML\"" Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:47:06 -0000 Re all that stuff about Iraq and oil, etc that I nuked, many times in world history, self serving campaigners have made suckers of the unwashed masses and been able to claim them in a majority. That is not the same as the minority seizing power because of the way our system is constructed. It is an (often) unfortunate artifact of the human condition. > they were far more common than anyone would believe. > > > Sure, each 'ultra' group contains the seeds/tools of its own > > destruction. > > No, not true. The Amish for example are definitely an off-the-bend > "ultra" > group, but they have a consistent internal philosophy, and the way they > apply their philosophy is non hypocritical, thus they survive. The > Quakers, > the super-Mormons, even the survivalists, there are many of these > out-in-left-field > groups that are non-hypocritical in the application end. As a result > they > don't carry the seeds of their own destruction. Rather, there are other > reasons that they can never grow beyond a small minority. There are other seeds of self destruction beside hypocrisy. The Amish and some similar groups just gradually die off, for example. By the way, there is plenty of hypocrisy in the Amish community. It may look different from what we are all used to seeing but it is there. Survivalists/militia groups feed on people's personal pathology and must constantly be resupplied by fresh self-loathing recruits. They are somewhat a product of the failure of mainstream society and maybe some of that hypocrisy you seem interested in. > > There's plenty of stuff that you can fault the ultraliberals for, > (stupidity, > no common sense) but hypocrisy is not one of them. That particular > problem is a speciality of the ultraconservatives. Well, it seems so, but even the ultra liberals abuse weaker persons within their groups. That, for example, has been one of the complaints of women for the last hundred years or more (my memory doesn't go back much farther than that). And they usually show none of their liberal consideration toward their opponents, even though their doctrine would call for it. > > So, lets leave this topic at that. Either the > > ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy > > themselves. > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) The status quo is that not many people care. The ultra-pro-beastie movement can destroy itself just like the other side by being so strident that they offend the status quo and majority and incite a dump-it movement just to show they won't be abused by either religious fringe - since the ultra-pro-beastie group seems to be the loudest and most narrowly beamed one at the moment. ////jerry > > Ted > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 14:58:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798F316A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:58:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6C2A43D54 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 14:58:32 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: Christian Tischler In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:58:32 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:58:34 -0000 On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 08:06, Christian Tischler wrote: > Hi, > I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like VMware > virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would > be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration > would be the performance of the overal setup. > > Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > thx > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have never heard of anyone using Exchange on a non-Windows machine, and I can't see much point. The license fee for Exchange swamps the OS license. I expect you could run VMWare with Windows as a guest OS, but for something as critical as your mail server, I would dedicate a Windows machine to it. I doubt it would work with WINE. Basically, if you have to hold your nose to run Exchange, you may as well hold it a little tighter and run Windows. If not, look at FreeBSD/Sendmail-or-Postfix/Evolution as a very reliable mail service. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:00:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6995116A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:00:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5DD43D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2IF0R508605; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:00:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503181500.j2IF0R508605@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: root@pukruppa.net (Peter Ulrich Kruppa) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:00:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050318154357.Q1533@pukruppa.net> from "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" at Mar 18, 2005 03:46:33 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: "\"\"Marco Greene ML\"" cc: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:00:45 -0000 > > > >> So, lets leave this topic at that. Either the > >> ultra-anti-beastie or ultra-pro-beastie movements will destroy > >> themselves. > >> > > > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) > So beastie stands for freedom, democracy, pursuit of happiness > and a great operating system for everyone? > Just a question from Central Europe. > Uli. It seems to in Ted M's world. In my world, being able to sleep as long as I want and to come in to work on my own schedule comes closer to representing those principles - and so I would have to say I live in a world that falls far short of the ideal... ////jerry > > ********************************************* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa - Wuppertal - Germany * > ********************************************* > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:06:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CAF16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED4343D54 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:06:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2IF6vXm087208; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:06:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <423AEE54.7090009@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:05:56 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Jeays References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> In-Reply-To: <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:06:58 -0000 Mike Jeays wrote: ... > Basically, if you have to hold your nose to run Exchange, you may as > well hold it a little tighter and run Windows. If not, look at > FreeBSD/Sendmail-or-Postfix/Evolution as a very reliable mail service. Indeed. Anyway, if you're running VMWare with Windows inside it, you *are* running Windows, are you not? You're just not dedicating your hardware to it. For a monster like Exchange, I'd probably want to dedicate hardware (just my prefs -- unruly beasts should be isolated). -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:11:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E162316A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC4F43D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:11:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so205631wra for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s35rhaNwcbnGJ7J0rQVLuZncO31Efcp4Lr7dLZWY59PpEBgxKq6+SOo/QVuytW1W53CBTfaidBhK474M1KGE+KnMQRutJ/KUEEzXJ4Cua/GI/sDrXo3jqEquFFr7vOHw8fVo7gd1KBCSA3BTyNlE8srTySTp3y4/42nr/S1nWlw= Received: by 10.54.22.15 with SMTP id 15mr1045251wrv; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.50.43 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:11:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8292450b050318071146555d03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:11:27 -0600 From: CHris Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Make buildworld and UPDATING X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:11:30 -0000 While reading updating I see this: 20050227: The default "world" build no longer supports running on an 80386 CPU. In order to build a world for an 80386 CPU, one needs to set CPUTYPE=i386 in /etc/make.conf. does this mean that 80486's and above don't need to set it? or do all x86's need to set this value? It seems to me that only 386 should need to set it but before I start updating I want to be sure.. -- Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:12:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CE716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:12:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3426E43D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:12:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:12:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:12:53 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050318151253.GA36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:12:55 -0000 On 18 Mar Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > > >I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ > >ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this > >windows machine? > >I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being > >worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) > > The SSH session, I believe, should be secure from sniffing (assuming > you're using protocol 2). > > If someone puts a keystroke logger on your windows machine, they will > get the password. > > If they put a hardware logger on your computer, they will get the data. > > If they are watching over your shoulder just as you misstype your > password as your username, you're probably in trouble. > > If someone is viewing your Windows desktop using remote monitoring > software (like a modified VNC), they'll see your session. > > If putty is trojaned, you're in trouble. > > If you're *really* paranoid about the connection, grab knoppix and use > it's ssh client to log in remotely. OK, thank you and all others who responded so quickly. This summary is very clear. I changed all passwords right when I came back home ;-) Assuming bad news has not yet happened.. Maybe I'm paranoid but I'll go for knoppix next time. It's the safest way to go as I understand now. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:17:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8A816A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775EC43D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 26AC2380A8; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:17:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.180]) by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1993837E75 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:17:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C296237E46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:17:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 75442 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2005 15:17:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:17:04 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: CHris Rich Message-ID: <20050318151704.GA75428@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: CHris Rich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8292450b050318071146555d03@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8292450b050318071146555d03@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make buildworld and UPDATING X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:07 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 09:11:27AM -0600, CHris Rich wrote: > While reading updating I see this: > > 20050227: > The default "world" build no longer supports running on an > 80386 CPU. In order to build a world for an 80386 CPU, one > needs to set CPUTYPE=i386 in /etc/make.conf. > > does this mean that 80486's and above don't need to set it? Correct. If you are using a '486 or later you do not *have* to set CPUTYPE to anything. If you wish to optimize for your particular CPU you could set CPUTYPE to reflect the CPU you are actually using, but it is not necessary other than for a real 80386. > or do all > x86's need to set this value? > > It seems to me that only 386 should need to set it but before I start > updating I want to be sure.. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:20:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0093516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:20:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A2043D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:19:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:19:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:19:58 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050318151958.GB36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: password length default install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:20:00 -0000 What is the password lenght one may use at login? I didn't change the defaults on my fbsd-4.11 (login passwd md5 ??) I remember linux had as default some eight chars or so. I want to use more chars for some accounts. Can I safely use 10-12 chars? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:22:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905CC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B457843D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 308324 for multiple; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:19:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050318151253.GA36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20050318112317.GA35516@lothlorien.nagual.st> <99cae7ce10c8fc95279f82222e6018de@chrononomicon.com> <20050318151253.GA36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0db33398b6a68a19d218099a38e3d713@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:21:55 -0500 To: Dick Hoogendijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ssh security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:14 -0000 On Mar 18, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On 18 Mar Bart Silverstrim wrote: >> >> On Mar 18, 2005, at 6:23 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> >>> I log in from a remote windows computer on my school using PuTTY w/ >>> ssh2. What I'd like to know is how *safe* is the login from this >>> windows machine? >>> I would like to be able to login to my home computer without being >>> worried about some sneaky system operator at work (school) ;-) >> >> The SSH session, I believe, should be secure from sniffing (assuming >> you're using protocol 2). >> >> If someone puts a keystroke logger on your windows machine, they will >> get the password. >> >> If they put a hardware logger on your computer, they will get the >> data. >> >> If they are watching over your shoulder just as you misstype your >> password as your username, you're probably in trouble. >> >> If someone is viewing your Windows desktop using remote monitoring >> software (like a modified VNC), they'll see your session. >> >> If putty is trojaned, you're in trouble. >> >> If you're *really* paranoid about the connection, grab knoppix and use >> it's ssh client to log in remotely. > > OK, thank you and all others who responded so quickly. This summary is > very clear. I changed all passwords right when I came back home ;-) > Assuming bad news has not yet happened.. > > Maybe I'm paranoid but I'll go for knoppix next time. It's the safest > way to go as I understand now. Don't forget to trace the cable leading from the keyboard to the back of the computer for a hardware logger :-) And yes, the "best" way to go for the truly paranoid UNIX-lover is to use a liveboot CD, as it will bypass any spyware, loggers, and monitors that are software based on the Windows system. The MD5sum of the liveboot CD should also be checked in this case. There are several out there available but knoppix seems to be the most popular liveboot utility disk around and seems to yield the most success in working on a myriad of hardware. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:22:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465916A514 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8BE43D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16357 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 15:22:18 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Mar 2005 15:22:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7B44682; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:22:15 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: martinko References: <4239CB4B.8090209@pobox.sk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Mar 2005 10:22:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4239CB4B.8090209@pobox.sk> Message-ID: <44acp1568o.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange behaviour : grep -i --colour "" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:20 -0000 martinko writes: > hello, > > i've just found out that while 'grep -i ""' and 'grep --colour ""' > behave as expected (by myself), running 'grep -i --colour ""' results > in very strange behaviour - grep consumes all available cpu and, based > on its input and terminal type, its output is definitely not what it > should be. > > is this a known issue pls (i couldn't find anything about it) or am i > just missing something ? > > regards, > > martin > > ps: observed on freebsd 5.3r-p5 I can't reproduce it on yesterday's -STABLE... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:27:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E26316A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBAA443D41 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2005 15:27:07 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 16:27:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:27:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503181627.06020@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:10 -0000 --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 18. M=E4rz 2005 14:06 schrieb Christian Tischler: > Hi, > I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > to set up an MS box at all. ??? Windows is a really good, well maintained standardized and secure piece= of=20 software compared to Exchange. I can't imagine why someone is even=20 considering exchange when he knows about FreeBSD and it's programs. Maybe you are not aware that exchange e.g. doesn't work without=20 ActiveDirecotry? Make you and the rest of the email connected world a favou= r=20 and don't polute the net with another exchange! =2DHarry > As I know I could run something like VMware=20 > virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would > be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration > would be the performance of the overal setup. > > Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > thx > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCOvNJBylq0S4AzzwRAh63AJ918jEGGvz9xUK0ge0Ib4e/zWl/BACfRLAS MSzBCJX3rZavzWbB9HEmRg8= =WmpE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:27:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AE316A4CF for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1085743D46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2005 15:27:07 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 16:27:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:27:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503181627.06020@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:27:10 -0000 --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 18. M=E4rz 2005 14:06 schrieb Christian Tischler: > Hi, > I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > to set up an MS box at all. ??? Windows is a really good, well maintained standardized and secure piece= of=20 software compared to Exchange. I can't imagine why someone is even=20 considering exchange when he knows about FreeBSD and it's programs. Maybe you are not aware that exchange e.g. doesn't work without=20 ActiveDirecotry? Make you and the rest of the email connected world a favou= r=20 and don't polute the net with another exchange! =2DHarry > As I know I could run something like VMware=20 > virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would > be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration > would be the performance of the overal setup. > > Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > thx > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCOvNJBylq0S4AzzwRAh63AJ918jEGGvz9xUK0ge0Ib4e/zWl/BACfRLAS MSzBCJX3rZavzWbB9HEmRg8= =WmpE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1930786.sA68q6mx3O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:37:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3367A16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:37:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36AB43D2F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:37:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4120 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 15:37:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail28.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Mar 2005 15:37:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E120382; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:37:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050318151958.GB36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Mar 2005 10:37:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050318151958.GB36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> Message-ID: <44zmx13qyg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: password length default install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:37:45 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk writes: > What is the password lenght one may use at login? I didn't change the > defaults on my fbsd-4.11 (login passwd md5 ??) > > I remember linux had as default some eight chars or so. I want to use > more chars for some accounts. Can I safely use 10-12 chars? DES passwords are limited to 8 characters (significant characters; you can type away all you want, but only the first 8 characters affect the result). MD5 can use considerably more (128, according to something out of the mists of my memory, but I haven't checked). This is true on any OS that supports both. See the "DES, MD5, and Crypt" section in the Handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 15:48:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376E816A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.182.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63CB43D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.75])45215358544; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) [66.133.183.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28510-15-12; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (70-97-221-18.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [70.97.221.18])EE3F8358247; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [165.107.42.217] (unknown [165.107.42.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A013BF3A0; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:48:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423AF81F.7070400@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:47:43 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <423A4647.5000709@mykitchentable.net> <200503172323.27821.bob89@bobj.org> In-Reply-To: <200503172323.27821.bob89@bobj.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter08.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sbp, camcontrol, and Tagged Queuing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:18 -0000 On 3/17/2005 8:23 PM Bob Johnson wrote: >On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:08 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > >>I posted this a while back and am still having the same problem. Can >>anyone offer any insight as to if the sbp man page suggestion about tagged >>queuing is something I should try? Is there any risk of screwing up my >>drives by trying this? >> >> >Tagged queueing queues up multiple instructions for the drive simultaneously. >The drive then attempts to sort them out and execute them in optimum order. >Some drives that claim to support tagged queueing do not correctly do so, and >don't perform well when it is used (and may lose data). If you set the queue >size to one, as recommended in the passage you reference, then only one >instruction will be issued to the drive at time, and it will behave like a >drive without tagged queueing. It will do no harm to the drive. If the >drive correctly implements tagged queueing, this will slow down the drive, >but if it does not correctly implement it, then this may dramatically speed >up the drive (and make it more stable). I have an external drive that >manages 1.3 MBps transfers with queueing enabled, and 25 MBps transfers when >I set the queue size to one. > >As for whether it will help your specific problem, I don't know, but I can't >see how it would do any harm to test it. > >This issue is not specific to FreeBSD. Any OS that supports tagged queuing >has problems with some drives. > >- Bob > > Thank you for your explanation. I will try this later today when I am close to the console and post my results for anyone else that may experience this problem. Cheers, Drew >[...] > > > >>da2 and da3 are two IDE drives in a firewire enclosure. These are also >>the drives that come up "referenced" after restarting. What do these >>errors mean? How can I correct them? Is the following section from the >>sbp man page applicable to my situation? >> >>Some (broken) HDDs don't work well with tagged queuing. If you have prob- >>lems with such drives, try ``camcontrol [device id] tags -N 1'' to dis- >>able tagged queuing. >> >>Thanks for your help! >> >>Drew >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:16:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDA716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:16:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.hotpop.com (smtp-out.hotpop.com [38.113.3.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F2F43D60 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:15:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from personrp@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [38.113.3.103]) by smtp-out.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C28A14C48B1 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu (110-ccbh-131.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.131]) by smtp-1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A141A00BD; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:15:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Rod Person Organization: Open Source Beef To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:14:30 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050317094058.B67554@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050317094058.B67554@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503181114.31863.personrp@hotpop.com> X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- cc: John Subject: Re: Kylix or libborqt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: personrp@hotpop.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:16:01 -0000 On Thursday 17 March 2005 3:40 pm, John wrote: > Hey, folks! > My problem is that, of course, it is only compiled for MS-Windows > and Linux. That's OK, I have Linux compatibility installed so that > I can run acroread. What makes matters worse is that it was built > using something called Kylix by Borland (http://www.borland.com/kylix/). > As such, it depends on a library called libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so. > > I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux applications on FreeBSD. I got > acroread running because the packages did everything for me. So... > 1) Do I need a Linux libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so, or a FreeBSD one? > 2) Should I forget trying to run the darn thing in Linux mode > and try to port it to FreeBSD, since it is open source? > The biggest problem with porting it would probably be Kylix > itself, which, while GPL, I haven't found the source. It must > be quit extensive, because the download is 90.7 Mb and includes > two high-performance C++ compilers. The Windows version came with > whatever DLLs it needed, so I suspect you don't really have to > go THAT far. > Kylix is a Borland IDE that is basically Delphi (Object Pascal) for Linux,= =20 although the last version did include C++. As far as I know the Kylix proje= ct=20 died at borland. I use Delphi at work so I was psyched when Kylix came alon= g. BUT....kylix never ran on FreeBSD, people tried for sometime but I don't th= ink=20 anyone ever got it beyond installing. As for that lib if its not a lib=20 supplied by kylix then just grab the lib and install it, but with the "qt" = in=20 the name I suspect that its some borland modified qt based lib. As for data modeling I have to think there are some out there but I don't=20 use any so someone else will have to tell you. HTH... =2D-=20 Rod ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "If you stay the same long enough you'll be in=20 style some day again." =A0Cren Dog=20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:37:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48DF16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5930C43D49 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2IGbcXm090164; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:37:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <423B0395.4060705@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:36:37 -0600 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <20050318151958.GB36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050318151958.GB36966@lothlorien.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: password length default install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:37:39 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > What is the password lenght one may use at login? I didn't change the > defaults on my fbsd-4.11 (login passwd md5 ??) > > I remember linux had as default some eight chars or so. I want to use > more chars for some accounts. Can I safely use 10-12 chars? > # man passwd (4.x) The new password should be at least six characters long (which may be overridden using the login.conf(5) ``minpasswordlen'' setting for a user's login class) and not purely alphabetic. Its total length must be less than _PASSWORD_LEN (currently 128 characters). -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7F16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BCB43D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D4A11958; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423B03F7.70405@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:38:15 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathon McKitrick References: <20050318031137.GA99419@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20050318031137.GA99419@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to include header files in makefiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:38:56 -0000 Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm setting up a build system for a small project and I want to use included > makefiles. I have a base.mk that looks like this: I will answer here, but be aware that you're getting all of my prejudices too, so take things with a grain of salt. First item deals with the .path statements, and more specifically, your use of relative addressing. It's my own experience that, if you use relative addressing, you make troubleshooting a broken build much more difficult, because 1) relative addressing means you have to be forever translating paths in listings, and very often the number of include paths gets to be rather long. 2) all the stuff like "../.." in listings is quite difficult to read 3) with the $(.CURDIR) variable, it's extremely easy to use absolute addressing. You can also make use of $(.OBJDIR), and it's not so hard to make makefiles that work off of read-only sources like cdroms. > > .PATH.h : ../ ../include > .INCLUDES : .h > > CFLAGS = -O -pipe -Wall -g > CFLAGS += $(.INCLUDES) > > OBJS = ${SRCS:R:S/$/.o/g} > > and a bin.mk that looks like this: > > include ../include/mk/base.mk > > all: ${BIN} > > ${BIN}: ${OBJS} > ${CC} ${LDFLAGS} -o ${.TARGET} ${.ALLSRC} > > so that a makefile for a specific program looks like this: > > BIN = app > SRCS = app.c > LDFLAGS += -pthread > include ../include/mk/bin.mk The Make(1) man page doesn't show "include", the advertised command is ".include". If you use .include, then you can modify your make, if you want, with the -m argument, and so get specific directories to be added to the search path for make include files. I'm not sure, but I think that raw "include) is more a gmake item, and it's absolute addressing. Don't forget the "-" argument, so that you allow includes to fail if they need to, like for generating dependencies. > > But I'm having a problem figuring out how to handle header files. I have > some that are local to this binary, but others are in the project include > directory. > > How can I include the .h files so the .c files are recompiled when the > header files they require are changed? GNU make has 'make depend' but I'd > like a better, BSDmake-centric way, if possible. Well, did you look at the files in /usr/share/mk, and specifically bsd.dep.mk? You can even use the FreeBSD sources to figure out (to use as examples) how things should work. Don't forget the use of -m, because you can use it to add to the include directory list, and so be able to add your own include files without corrupting the system files. I honestly keep on switching back and forth, between thinking that the best make is bmake, or gmake. They both have key items that make them uniquely better. > > Thanks for your help, > > jm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:39:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F7016A4CF for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:39:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FDA43D5D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:39:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so173304rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=G7dAPoGihRAyAJ+Dub/7OOmqvZBovRGitOuAjJVpsg/4+YJfXSUdGn2Ibe+P1noQlZUn548+O3BGW2mkiPiEVPXp6hIj1vJRqLBszyGDs0J+48byeRmbeUUe/PDPkb5NN3284eRUjL94hC/Lv50KXAU1jukcX0fRhr2e1iZORi4= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr2599840rnj; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:39:16 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050317175913.GT91771@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4237A3A3.3040704@bigfoot.com> <4238F9A7.5050000@bigfoot.com> <20050317175913.GT91771@hub.freebsd.org> cc: Jean Lagarde cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release fine with 512MB RAM, reboots at times with 1.5GB (but no panic) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:39:18 -0000 I have had odd behavior like you are describing with cheap motherboards. I ran all of the memory tests etc, and everything passed with flying colors. Despite passing all of the tests I could throw at the hardware, windows 2000 was very unstable. We ultimately ended up replacing the board. On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:59:13 +0000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:29:43PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: > > Thanks to all who replied. So it seems the consensus is a likely > > hardware issue, and I am leaning that way as well now. I will try the > > suggestion about disabling ACPI however. > > > > To address some of the other comments, that exact CPU-mobo-memory > > configuration worked fine running Win2000 for many years, so I doubt it > > is the problem per se. > > Doesn't rule out bugs in the ACPI support of your motherboard. Some > low-quality motherboards only implement an approximation to the ACPI > spec to a level that gets windows to run. > > Kris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:45:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8B16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:45:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB7A43D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:45:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A4DC11B; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:45:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:45:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: Christian Tischler Subject: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:45:26 -0000 > On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 08:06, Christian Tischler wrote: >> Hi, >> I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing >> to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like VMware >> virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would >> be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration >> would be the performance of the overal setup. >> >> Any hints or suggenstions would be great. As someone who has inhereted an Exchange server I have a few hints for you. 1 Run Exchange on a Dedicated Windows Server (2000 or 2003). Do not fiddle with VMware or Wine. You are going to need a license for Windows to run Exchange under VMware (or bochs). You are probably going to need a license of Windows to run it under wine (if that is even possible). In any case, you will lose stability if you don't dedicate a system to Windows. 2 You need to keep the disk where Exchange stores its mail database at least 55% free or Exchange will not work properly. This is because you need to periodically rebuild the Exchange database to keep performance tollerable. Also when mail is deleted in an exchange mail store, it is not actually deleted but just marked for deletion. You need to take the mail store offline (so nobody can access their mailbox) periodically and run a tool to purge the deleted items. This takes hours on any decent sized mail system. When this happens it creates temporary files roughly 110% the size of the mail store. 3 Exchange is a pig. You would be best to have another Windows system running Active Directory to support your Exchange server. If you are thinking of using the Active Directory emulation available in Samba, forget it. Exchange changes the structure of the Active Directory when it is installed. You need a real Active Directory server. 4 On the topic of Exchange being a pig; you should set up a couple of FreeBSD systems that act as your MX hosts for inbound e-mail. Put something like Postfix or Exim (or any other smtp software you like) on there and setup at least simple spam filtering (even if it is just RBLs). Have these Postfix (or exim) system feed mail to your Exchange server. There are articles on the Web about how to get Postfix to check the validity of recipients against an Exchange server so you can bounce bogus mail at the border if you want. You could also have this system do the virus scanning (again numerous articles are available). 5 Exchange does an enormous amount of logging so those disks are going to fill up quickly. You need to run special tools before you delete the logs or you run the risk of not being able to recover your mail database in the event of catastrophic failure. Read over item 3 again, the process is similar. 6 Exchange shuts down when the disk that holds the mail store is 90% full. It will not restart until you free up some disk space. If you reach this situation you probably aren't following point 5 or point 3 enough. 7 Familiarize yourself with http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;313184&spid=1760&sid=global you are going to be reading it (and related sites) a lot. 8 Unless you have users demanding shared calendars and automatic meeting scheduling, try to find a solution other than Exchange. I'm partial to Postfix, Courier-IMAP, OpenLDAP, SquirrelMail. > I have never heard of anyone using Exchange on a non-Windows machine, > and I can't see much point. The license fee for Exchange swamps the OS > license. I expect you could run VMWare with Windows as a guest OS, but > for something as critical as your mail server, I would dedicate a > Windows machine to it. I doubt it would work with WINE. > > Basically, if you have to hold your nose to run Exchange, you may as > well hold it a little tighter and run Windows. If not, look at > FreeBSD/Sendmail-or-Postfix/Evolution as a very reliable mail service. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 16:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F4D16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mirapoint2.tis.cwru.edu (mirapoint2.TIS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.104.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BAB43D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ttt@cwru.edu) Received: from [172.16.101.37] (fw1-dmz.cwru.edu [192.5.109.49]) by mirapoint2.tis.cwru.edu (MOS 3.5.4-GR) with ESMTP id DQM10097 (AUTH ttt); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423B07C6.1080103@cwru.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:54:30 -0500 From: Tom Trelvik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, Ean Kingston References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:54:33 -0000 That is truly one of the most disturbing things I've ever read (about technology, anyway). Must be careful not to frighten small children, or all but the most experienced sysamins, with that one. Tom Ean Kingston wrote: > As someone who has inhereted an Exchange server I have a few hints for you. > > 1 Run Exchange on a Dedicated Windows Server (2000 or 2003). Do not fiddle > with VMware or Wine. You are going to need a license for Windows to run > Exchange under VMware (or bochs). You are probably going to need a license > of Windows to run it under wine (if that is even possible). In any case, > you will lose stability if you don't dedicate a system to Windows. > > 2 You need to keep the disk where Exchange stores its mail database at > least 55% free or Exchange will not work properly. This is because you > need to periodically rebuild the Exchange database to keep performance > tollerable. Also when mail is deleted in an exchange mail store, it is not > actually deleted but just marked for deletion. You need to take the mail > store offline (so nobody can access their mailbox) periodically and run a > tool to purge the deleted items. This takes hours on any decent sized mail > system. When this happens it creates temporary files roughly 110% the size > of the mail store. > > 3 Exchange is a pig. You would be best to have another Windows system > running Active Directory to support your Exchange server. If you are > thinking of using the Active Directory emulation available in Samba, > forget it. Exchange changes the structure of the Active Directory when it > is installed. You need a real Active Directory server. > > 4 On the topic of Exchange being a pig; you should set up a couple of > FreeBSD systems that act as your MX hosts for inbound e-mail. Put > something like Postfix or Exim (or any other smtp software you like) on > there and setup at least simple spam filtering (even if it is just RBLs). > Have these Postfix (or exim) system feed mail to your Exchange server. > There are articles on the Web about how to get Postfix to check the > validity of recipients against an Exchange server so you can bounce bogus > mail at the border if you want. You could also have this system do the > virus scanning (again numerous articles are available). > > 5 Exchange does an enormous amount of logging so those disks are going to > fill up quickly. You need to run special tools before you delete the logs > or you run the risk of not being able to recover your mail database in the > event of catastrophic failure. Read over item 3 again, the process is > similar. > > 6 Exchange shuts down when the disk that holds the mail store is 90% full. > It will not restart until you free up some disk space. If you reach this > situation you probably aren't following point 5 or point 3 enough. > > 7 Familiarize yourself with > http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;313184&spid=1760&sid=global > you are going to be reading it (and related sites) a lot. > > 8 Unless you have users demanding shared calendars and automatic meeting > scheduling, try to find a solution other than Exchange. I'm partial to > Postfix, Courier-IMAP, OpenLDAP, SquirrelMail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id DD48416A4CF; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050318170200.DD48416A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:02:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id E465A16A4D0; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050318170200.E465A16A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:22:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E4F16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:22:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A489043D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:22:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 48460 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 17:22:05 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 17:22:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 63567 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Mar 2005 17:22:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:22:05 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20050318172205.GY50093@numachi.com> References: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: adding a directory to a CD-image (.iso) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:22:07 -0000 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 03:02:18PM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I donwloaded an .iso-image (Solaris 10, actually), which is about 2.7Gb. > > Before burning it to a DVD, I'd like to add a directory to the image. Is there > a way to do it with tools available on FreeBSD -- mkisofs, growisofs, etc? > > I don't want to recreate the main image from scratch, as I'm sure, I'll get > the options wrong and it will not boot :-) Can I just add a directory to the > existing iso8859 filesystem? Would mounting it with vnconfig let you do this? I've never tried, myself... > Thanks! > > -mi > _______________________________________________ -- Brian Reichert 55 Crystal Ave. #286 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1725 USA BSD admin/developer at large From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:27:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CA216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 680E243D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61633 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 17:27:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20050318172739.61631.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:27:39 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:27:39 -0000 --- Boris Spirialitious wrote: > > --- Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > 4.9. > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came > > in with 5.x, so > > you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release > > version. > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > big problems? > > > > You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode > -- > > but what would be > > the point? All you get then is a machine that > costs > > more than an > > equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs > > worse. > > That is very curious to say. Isn't the advantage > of Opteron the superior IO architecture? There is > not much advantage with 64 bit computing. What is > faster about it? Pointers are bigger, so it use > more cache for less. NOt much 64bit math in > OS. Why do you say it will perform worse? > > Boris I am waiting for your answer. Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50D216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:35:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6350F43D46 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:35:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BC512122; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:36:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423B1135.30302@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:34:45 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Spirialitious References: <20050318172739.61631.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050318172739.61631.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:35:27 -0000 Boris Spirialitious wrote: > --- Boris Spirialitious > wrote: > >>--- Matthew Seaman >>wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris >>>Spirialitious wrote: >>> >>>>When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have >>> >>>4.9. >>> >>>>is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. >>> >>>Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came >>>in with 5.x, so >>>you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release >>>version. >>> >>> >>>>Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I >>>>use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any >>>>big problems? >>> >>>You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode >> >>-- >> >>>but what would be >>>the point? All you get then is a machine that >> >>costs >> >>>more than an >>>equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs >>>worse. >> >>That is very curious to say. Isn't the advantage >>of Opteron the superior IO architecture? There is >>not much advantage with 64 bit computing. What is >>faster about it? Pointers are bigger, so it use >>more cache for less. NOt much 64bit math in >>OS. Why do you say it will perform worse? Boris, I am sure you realize that a great deal of the 64 bit IO architecture is leveraged from the 64 bit instructions set, that allows things like 64 bit fetches. Will there be a gain without using the 64 bit instruction set? Yes. Will it be as large? No. >> >>Boris > > > I am waiting for your answer. > > Boris > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:41:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39AE16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:41:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688F943D5C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:41:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lokken@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so357701wra for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:41:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oQ4A7JG+LKlSg8Aw3tbMmOqo7Pz0ONLVRitkQ3rArXfCllRdBh9wqNEx9vlvnH1DJ4CtZNZZTv0Q1GaLVhKgLtkhPKhkHS5cTvrP+0friJ/qOfP1x/EfuemmtX0sk0b/mtNqbxbISacl4OqaEilWhtr2AvYH/nRNBzbtZpBWDMo= Received: by 10.54.3.32 with SMTP id 32mr956603wrc; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:41:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.21 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:41:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:41:38 -0600 From: Joshua Lokken To: Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sparc64 nfs client locking: Operation not supported X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Joshua Lokken List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:41:45 -0000 Hello, I'm booting an UltraSparc machine with tftp over NFS. The boot server is i386 running 5.4-PRERELEASE, the UltraSparc nfs root is 5.3-RELEASE. On the server, I'm running: mountd (-r) nfsd (-u -t -n 4) rpcbind rpc.statd rpc.lockd The Ultra will boot fine, however, whenever I attempt to create an account, set a passwd, etc (anything that requires a file lock), I get an error telling me "Operation not supported". Thus, I have only a root account with a null password 8>0 rpcinfo(8) shows: program version(s) netid(s) service owner 100000 2,3,4 local,udp,tcp rpcbind superuser 100005 3,1 tcp,udp mountd superuser 100003 3,2 tcp,udp nfs superuser 100024 1 tcp,udp status superuser 100021 4,3,1,0 tcp,udp nlockmgr superuser and the Ultra kernel is built with: options BOOTP # User bootp to obtain IP address/hostname options BOOTP_NFSROOT # NFS mount root filesystem w/ bootp info options BOOTP_NFSV3 # NFSv3 for mount root options BOOTP_COMPAT # Workaround for broken bootp daemons options BOOTP_WIRED_TO=hme0 # Use interface hme0 for BOOTP I didn't find anything recent on the web to suggest that this shouldn't work; I may have missed something in configuring the setup. Any advice is welcome. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 17:52:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A22C16A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harik.murex.com (mail.murex.com [194.98.239.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6743D5A; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from interscan.fr.murex.com (iscan.murex.fr [172.21.17.207] (may be forged)) by harik.murex.com with ESMTP id j2IHfGbW023801; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:41:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mxmail.murex.com (interscan.murex.fr [127.0.0.1]) by interscan.fr.murex.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2II2Mx25061; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:02:25 +0100 Received: from mteterin.us.murex.com ([172.21.130.86]) by mxmail.murex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:51:42 +0100 From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Brian Reichert Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:51:42 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20050318172205.GY50093@numachi.com> In-Reply-To: <20050318172205.GY50093@numachi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503181251.43291.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 17:51:43.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[253AFAC0:01C52BE3] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding a directory to a CD-image (.iso) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:52:19 -0000 > > I donwloaded an .iso-image (Solaris 10, actually), which is about 2.7Gb. > > > > Before burning it to a DVD, I'd like to add a directory to the image. Is > > there a way to do it with tools available on FreeBSD -- mkisofs, > > growisofs, etc? > > > > I don't want to recreate the main image from scratch, as I'm sure, I'll > > get the options wrong and it will not boot :-) Can I just add a directory > > to the existing iso9660 filesystem? > Would mounting it with vnconfig let you do this? I've never tried, > myself... Well, yes, this is how I get to read the CD-image without burning it first. But that is a read-only thing. I need to modify an existing image -- add a directory tree to it... -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:03:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 3E79416A4CF; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:03:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:03:54 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway To: emil fakhruzi Message-ID: <20050318180354.GM91771@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050318104825.13433.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050318104825.13433.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dvd iso with complete port collections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:03:54 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 02:48:25AM -0800, emil fakhruzi wrote: > hi.. can i ask for dvd iso for the next FreeBSD-Release with the latest complete english port collections. The ports collection is included on the installation CD images. Are you really asking for the package collection? If so, this is too big to fit on a DVD image. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:07:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7738C16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:07:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.dkm.cz (smtp.dkm.cz [62.24.64.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E363843D1F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinkov@pobox.sk) Received: (qmail 39813 invoked by uid 0); 18 Mar 2005 18:07:08 -0000 Received: from r4i114.chello.upc.cz (HELO ?84.42.136.114?) 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The boot server is > i386 running 5.4-PRERELEASE, the UltraSparc nfs root is 5.3-RELEASE. > > On the server, I'm running: > > mountd (-r) > nfsd (-u -t -n 4) > rpcbind > rpc.statd > rpc.lockd What about the client? See the rpc.lockd manpage; you need to run it there too. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=EdNauvAAU2fmB5YNwzZOMFOpF523YAJnqR8ncXg6nGR6etX5l8H5sJYu0nurKJ5Gcw+uCF4kO7Z6jjd2Kat+7yKNnMyWrvm5Z4GP/L1FTQTTw2hG/LS3N2/xKJhbWw3zc/fs4LD2QKBjYP2SGs7l8+bdrP3WEjIoo4aJOiuiOaU= ; Message-ID: <20050318182249.61770.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:22:49 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:22:49 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:22:50 -0000 --- Chuck Robey wrote: > Boris Spirialitious wrote: > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > wrote: > > > >>--- Matthew Seaman > > >>wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris > >>>Spirialitious wrote: > >>> > >>>>When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > >>> > >>>4.9. > >>> > >>>>is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > >>> > >>>Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only > came > >>>in with 5.x, so > >>>you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release > >>>version. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > >>>>use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > >>>>big problems? > >>> > >>>You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode > >> > >>-- > >> > >>>but what would be > >>>the point? All you get then is a machine that > >> > >>costs > >> > >>>more than an > >>>equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs > >>>worse. > >> > >>That is very curious to say. Isn't the advantage > >>of Opteron the superior IO architecture? There is > >>not much advantage with 64 bit computing. What is > >>faster about it? Pointers are bigger, so it use > >>more cache for less. NOt much 64bit math in > >>OS. Why do you say it will perform worse? > > Boris, I am sure you realize that a great deal of > the 64 bit IO > architecture is leveraged from the 64 bit > instructions set, that allows > things like 64 bit fetches. Will there be a gain > without using the 64 > bit instruction set? Yes. Will it be as large? > No. I do not see that. Most adapter card registers only 32bits, and PCIX dma is 64bits anyway, so what 64bit fetches are there? Larger pointers take up more cache space. Benchmark show that 64bit pointers slow memory operation. So the difference overall may be small. I not argue about 64bit maybe faster. But the hypertransport architecture may be enough to make the cost worthwhile. Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:41:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA77E16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:41:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B0A43D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:41:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Received: from failure (murdoc.gwi.net [207.5.142.8]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id j2IIft0m024280 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:41:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jcoombs@gwi.net) Message-ID: <06da01c52bea$6d1f32f0$1700a8c0@failure> From: "Joshua Coombs" To: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:43:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Bind Wierdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:41:56 -0000 Hello. While trying to track down periodic radius failures, I discovered that Bind was periodically timing out, and even occasionally incorrectly responding with a failure. We orriginally were running 9.2.3 built from ports on FreeBSD 4.9p11, with a mem limit set at 900M, maint interval of 60 minutes. The failures were 61 minutes appart, like clockwork. We moved up to 9.3.0, again built from ports, and continued to observe the same problem. I then built from src, enabling threading, with no luck. A quick discussion with the port maintainer pointed out that 9.3.1 would have 'major threading fixes' for FreeBSD, so I waited for it to come out. Now that it's out, I've built it, threading enabled, and still have the periodic outages. I've currently got the maint interval set at 15 mins, and my problems are tracking the period like clock work. At the moment, my primary source of data comes from my radius server monitoring, as I don't have a direct long term dns monitor going yet. I've been testing by throwing nslookup requests inside while loops from cli and observing the output. The host system for bind is running 9 to 14% cpu load, even durring the maint windows, so I don't believe the host system is overloaded. How should I proceed to diagnose and correct this? I've posted to the bind-users list, seems a few others have noticed similar problems, but noone wants to provide any diagnostic hints there. Joshua Coombs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:44:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552AC16A4CF for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:44:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from foo-bar.inter-sonic.com (foo-bar.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4ED43D6A for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:44:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from barlow.h.inter-sonic.com (as9-2-1.bi.s.bonet.se [217.215.7.177]) by foo-bar.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC13A6C39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:44:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.h.inter-sonic.com [127.0.0.1]) by barlow.h.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED361141B for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:44:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.16.2.17] (kreutzman.h.inter-sonic.com [172.16.2.17]) by barlow.h.inter-sonic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE491141A for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:43:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423B216E.8090405@intersonic.se> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:43:58 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041226) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Subject: saslauthd - memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:44:05 -0000 Hi all, Is there anybody with experience from deploying saslauthd for authentication that could advise how stable it is on FreeBSD 5? I am implementing it for ldap authentication on a cyrus-imap mail server and saw that there is a -n option that "can solve leaks that occur in some deployments". Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2190816A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1023F43D6B for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j2IIqJ475625; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:52:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:52:19 -0600 From: John To: Ean Kingston Message-ID: <20050318125219.A75608@starfire.mn.org> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169>; from ean@hedron.org on Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 11:45:25AM -0500 cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Christian Tischler Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:52:25 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 11:45:25AM -0500, Ean Kingston wrote: > > > On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 08:06, Christian Tischler wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > >> to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like VMware > >> virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would > >> be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration > >> would be the performance of the overal setup. > >> > >> Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > As someone who has inhereted an Exchange server I have a few hints for you. > > 1 Run Exchange on a Dedicated Windows Server (2000 or 2003). Do not fiddle > with VMware or Wine. You are going to need a license for Windows to run > Exchange under VMware (or bochs). You are probably going to need a license > of Windows to run it under wine (if that is even possible). In any case, > you will lose stability if you don't dedicate a system to Windows. > > 2 You need to keep the disk where Exchange stores its mail database at > least 55% free or Exchange will not work properly. This is because you > need to periodically rebuild the Exchange database to keep performance > tollerable. Also when mail is deleted in an exchange mail store, it is not > actually deleted but just marked for deletion. You need to take the mail > store offline (so nobody can access their mailbox) periodically and run a > tool to purge the deleted items. This takes hours on any decent sized mail > system. When this happens it creates temporary files roughly 110% the size > of the mail store. > > 3 Exchange is a pig. You would be best to have another Windows system > running Active Directory to support your Exchange server. If you are > thinking of using the Active Directory emulation available in Samba, > forget it. Exchange changes the structure of the Active Directory when it > is installed. You need a real Active Directory server. > > 4 On the topic of Exchange being a pig; you should set up a couple of > FreeBSD systems that act as your MX hosts for inbound e-mail. Put > something like Postfix or Exim (or any other smtp software you like) on > there and setup at least simple spam filtering (even if it is just RBLs). > Have these Postfix (or exim) system feed mail to your Exchange server. > There are articles on the Web about how to get Postfix to check the > validity of recipients against an Exchange server so you can bounce bogus > mail at the border if you want. You could also have this system do the > virus scanning (again numerous articles are available). > > 5 Exchange does an enormous amount of logging so those disks are going to > fill up quickly. You need to run special tools before you delete the logs > or you run the risk of not being able to recover your mail database in the > event of catastrophic failure. Read over item 3 again, the process is > similar. > > 6 Exchange shuts down when the disk that holds the mail store is 90% full. > It will not restart until you free up some disk space. If you reach this > situation you probably aren't following point 5 or point 3 enough. > > 7 Familiarize yourself with > http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;313184&spid=1760&sid=global > you are going to be reading it (and related sites) a lot. > > 8 Unless you have users demanding shared calendars and automatic meeting > scheduling, try to find a solution other than Exchange. I'm partial to > Postfix, Courier-IMAP, OpenLDAP, SquirrelMail. > > > I have never heard of anyone using Exchange on a non-Windows machine, > > and I can't see much point. The license fee for Exchange swamps the OS > > license. I expect you could run VMWare with Windows as a guest OS, but > > for something as critical as your mail server, I would dedicate a > > Windows machine to it. I doubt it would work with WINE. > > > > Basically, if you have to hold your nose to run Exchange, you may as > > well hold it a little tighter and run Windows. If not, look at > > FreeBSD/Sendmail-or-Postfix/Evolution as a very reliable mail service. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Don't you all want to at least mention Open Groupware? http://www.opengroupware.org/ I have never used it, which is why I have not said anything 'til now - I was hoping someone with some experience would jump in. AFAIK, this is coming long, and the base code is free, but some of the plugins you may need to support certain clinets (including Outlook?) may have a cost associated with them, directly or in getting needed support. Check it out - I don't mean to lead you down a rat hole, but you may find something of value there! I'm going to try it as soon as I get some free time... (YEAH, RIGHT!!!) -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:54:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9BA16A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:54:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7303A43D58; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stuartb@4gh.net) Received: from 208-59-171-35.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com (HELO freeman.4gh.net) (208.59.171.35) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2005 13:54:20 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.91,102,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="12305527:sNHT55825874" Received: by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C68070; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5862153; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:54:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:54:20 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Barkley To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Message-ID: <20050318133722.W6598@freeman.4gh.net> References: <200503171502.18784.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: adding a directory to a CD-image (.iso) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:54:22 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 at 15:02 -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > I donwloaded an .iso-image (Solaris 10, actually), which is about > 2.7Gb. > > Before burning it to a DVD, I'd like to add a directory to the > image. Is there a way to do it with tools available on FreeBSD -- > mkisofs, growisofs, etc? > > I don't want to recreate the main image from scratch, as I'm sure, > I'll get the options wrong and it will not boot :-) Can I just add a > directory to the existing iso8859 filesystem? I have not done this but think you should be looking into making a multi-session DVD. This should be easy. Method 1 (should be easy and direct): Just burn the original DVD image with growisofs in multi-session mode (the default): growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso You should then be able to directly add your new files with: growisofs -M /dev/dvd -R -J /more/files Method 2 (probably more appropriate for a CD image): Use mkisofs to create a second session .iso file. Something like: mkisofs -o second.iso -C -M image.iso -R -J /more/files You might need to burn the first session and use burncd/cdrecord or something to get the magic numbers for the -C option. Stuart -- I've never been lost; I was once bewildered for three days, but never lost! -- Daniel Boone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 18:57:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A836016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:57:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub.sweetdreamsracing.biz (mailhub.sweetdreamsracing.biz [66.92.171.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE6F43D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from culverk@sweetdreamsracing.biz) Received: by mailhub.sweetdreamsracing.biz (Postfix, from userid 80) id 31E1D61BA; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from 141.156.69.109 ([141.156.69.109]) by www.sweetdreamsracing.biz (Horde) with HTTP for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:50:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20050318135036.clb71qvg0o0k8w8o@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:50:36 -0500 From: Kenneth Culver To: Chuck Robey References: <20050318172739.61631.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <423B1135.30302@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <423B1135.30302@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs cc: Boris Spirialitious cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:57:22 -0000 Quoting Chuck Robey : > Boris Spirialitious wrote: >> --- Boris Spirialitious >> wrote: >> >>> --- Matthew Seaman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris >>>> Spirialitious wrote: >>>> >>>>> When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have >>>> >>>> 4.9. >>>>> is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. >>>> >>>> Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came >>>> in with 5.x, so >>>> you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release >>>> version. >>>>> Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I >>>>> use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any >>>>> big problems? >>>> >>>> You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode >>> >>> -- >>> >>>> but what would be >>>> the point? All you get then is a machine that >>> >>> costs >>> >>>> more than an >>>> equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs >>>> worse. Actually due to the onboard memory controller it performs significantly better than like-priced chips from intel. Ken From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 19:08:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDE616A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:08:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993C843D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:08:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Received: from [213.219.222.23] (port=3764 helo=gateway.my.home) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DCMpN-000KmJ-00; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:08:09 +0300 Received: from [10.0.1.5] (megagame.my.home [10.0.1.5]) by gateway.my.home (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j2IJ89Nt003631; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:08:09 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from aeder@list.ru) Message-ID: <423B2904.9090605@list.ru> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:20 +0300 From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2_=E4=C5=D2=C5=D7=D1=CE=CB=CF?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: popbox References: <000e01c52a3c$a3b0bb40$f8159ed5@name> In-Reply-To: <000e01c52a3c$a3b0bb40$f8159ed5@name> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mounting DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:08:12 -0000 popbox wrote: >Hello. >There is no separated information about mounting DVD in manual man, FreeBSD Handbook and other documentation. Mounting it such as CD not gives result. >For example, my variant: >1) #mount /cdrom > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument > >2) #mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom > mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument > >My OS: FreeBSD 4.10 >I compiled kernel with ATAPI/CAM support, and added DMA access for ATAPI devices, as it recommended in section Creating and Using Optical Media (DVDs) of FreeBSD Handbook. > >dmesg output: acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master UDMA33 > >There is "FreeBSD ports collection" on the disks, from your russian diller LinuxCenter.ru. Discs are valid and works under Windows 98. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Try to use /dev/cd0c instead, if you have compiled CAM. It be no difference - DVD's mounts exactly as CD. Best regards, Alexander. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 19:11:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B89A16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:11:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za (mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za [196.7.0.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03FA43D1F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from 196-47-6-89.access.uunet.co.za ([196.47.6.89] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by mailspool.ops.uunet.co.za with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1DCMsZ-0004wd-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:27 +0200 Received: from pmx01.ournet.co.za ([198.19.0.73] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DCMsW-000NjM-qQ for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:24 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=netphobia) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1DCMsV-000NjI-qu for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:23 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c52bee$471b7600$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net><1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca><4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <20050318125219.A75608@starfire.mn.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: 192.168.1.10 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:11:29 -0000 > Don't you all want to at least mention Open Groupware? > > http://www.opengroupware.org/ > How about something that supports MySQL? -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 19:29:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5120F16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:29:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61E543D55 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:29:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.195] (july.chuckr.org [66.92.151.195]) by april.chuckr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE9D12122; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:29:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423B2BD9.1010908@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:28:25 +0000 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Culver References: <20050318172739.61631.qmail@web90208.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <423B1135.30302@chuckr.org> <20050318135036.clb71qvg0o0k8w8o@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> In-Reply-To: <20050318135036.clb71qvg0o0k8w8o@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Boris Spirialitious cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:29:09 -0000 Kenneth Culver wrote: > Quoting Chuck Robey : > >> Boris Spirialitious wrote: >> >>> --- Boris Spirialitious >>> wrote: >>> >>>> --- Matthew Seaman >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris >>>>> Spirialitious wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4.9. >>>>> >>>>>> is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came >>>>> in with 5.x, so >>>>> you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release >>>>> version. >>>>> >>>>>> Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I >>>>>> use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any >>>>>> big problems? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>>> but what would be >>>>> the point? All you get then is a machine that >>>> >>>> >>>> costs >>>> >>>>> more than an >>>>> equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs >>>>> worse. > > > Actually due to the onboard memory controller it performs significantly > better > than like-priced chips from intel. I completely agree with you, Ken, but I had the feeling that this fellow was flamebaiting me, and I didn't want to subject everyone to that. I was right to begin with: there is some gain from having the chip, there is more gain if you have the better instruction set. If folks need to know more, like I *know* you have, you read one of the many architectural sites on the web. > > Ken > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 19:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E292A16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EB043D2F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:32:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so242771rna for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:32:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Gyu/tZY9zyunv75kMY6BoYc0vl8XO5xZny0awMlVLv+LTyucQoTSfG9UnY2006gcEro5YBOJkmvMeRUNdAnOt+gf/vNAK5RnRgkk0E23U3W8sILqocYt1socF+u3DPLtFv9j7/A0yXYPnf44cMOCi005xeV4CcDBGRJbePYAQvc= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr2752166rnb; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:32:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d7100005031811323df3fc70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:32:34 -0800 From: pete wright To: Chris Knipe In-Reply-To: <000a01c52bee$471b7600$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <20050318125219.A75608@starfire.mn.org> <000a01c52bee$471b7600$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:32:36 -0000 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:11:24 +0200, Chris Knipe wrote: > > Don't you all want to at least mention Open Groupware? > > > > http://www.opengroupware.org/ > > > > How about something that supports MySQL? > why use MySQL when it supports a much more robust solution like PostgreSQL? -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 19:34:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:34:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7C143D55 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:34:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so226234rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=h8aZPBzidcq3jQCUYyVPYZqF19WC3mbLkpsPT/JM9U0IAGWwCWp1MnG70oFBMC3no/XBfjICg6X7xS3u71XDFOKtBxINcVN3UM5TT9K7RtHui7vekYywOasnfFpG43eSeOVHpt3LFVWbWOdD/ON4FOAli82dxO3znKKNjr/vLUw= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr2525581rng; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d7100005031811341117b0d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:34:18 -0800 From: pete wright To: John In-Reply-To: <20050318125219.A75608@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <20050318125219.A75608@starfire.mn.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Ean Kingston cc: Christian Tischler Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:34:19 -0000 > > Don't you all want to at least mention Open Groupware? I was mentioned in the first reply i think: ------------------ From: Ryan J. Cavicchioni Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:06:32 -0600 I really doubt that it is possible. I would look at OpenExhange: http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/ ------------------- -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:05:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB75716A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 913FB43D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 69356 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 20:05:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=fzne5maIHmH1D3da7FKBJNThZEf0vg3tnRLqFPhvzn/Q7sID0/BeeqSuNpEbqQrBzTDlpsdvHnzXhUNMxf+UI3kskoHI9eUz5/uAxYnW+sS9r6Y1vrB/wqvMcqq+LIMX2aNXzmW0R47MtSn5q7dVqZXEFS4gwMkK6hbbmurHOZg= ; Message-ID: <20050318200512.69354.qmail@web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:05:12 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:05:12 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:05:12 -0000 --- Chuck Robey wrote: > Kenneth Culver wrote: > > Quoting Chuck Robey : > > > >> Boris Spirialitious wrote: > >> > >>> --- Boris Spirialitious > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> --- Matthew Seaman > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, > Boris > >>>>> Spirialitious wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> When opteron support start for Freebsd? I > have > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 4.9. > >>>>> > >>>>>> is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use > 5.x. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only > came > >>>>> in with 5.x, so > >>>>> you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release > >>>>> version. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can > I > >>>>>> use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? > Any > >>>>>> big problems? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 > mode > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>>> but what would be > >>>>> the point? All you get then is a machine that > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> costs > >>>> > >>>>> more than an > >>>>> equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs > >>>>> worse. > > > > > > Actually due to the onboard memory controller it > performs significantly > > better > > than like-priced chips from intel. > > I completely agree with you, Ken, but I had the > feeling that this fellow > was flamebaiting me, and I didn't want to subject > everyone to that. I > was right to begin with: there is some gain from > having the chip, there > is more gain if you have the better instruction set. > If folks need to > know more, like I *know* you have, you read one of > the many > architectural sites on the web. Why you think flamebait? Mathew say it would be slower with 32bit code, and I agree with you, not him. I want him to answer, because he say things without knowing, so why answer at all? So many people talk but have no real understanding. Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:10:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0C016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:10:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4908943D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:10:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2D24B3B0; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:10:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:10:30 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050318201030.GB56856@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> <20050318102450.GA54209@fw.farid-hajji.net> <20050318142056.Q2589@maren.thelosingend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050318142056.Q2589@maren.thelosingend.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: Christian Tischler Subject: Re: HDD idle shutdown. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:10:44 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 02:22:29PM +0100, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > * cpghost@cordula.ws [2005-03-18 11:24 +0100] > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:21:17AM +0100, Christian Tischler wrote: > > > I wondered whether there is an option to shut down an idle HDD until it > > > is needed again? > > > I am using FreeBSD 5.x. > > > > /usr/ports/sysutils/ataidle > > Note that, while this indeed will spin down your hdd, the system will most > likely spin it up again after a short period of time, unless you modify > some settings. Especially the cron system may cause your hdd to spin up > every once in a while. Yes, that's true. Watch out for activity in /var/log etc. I'm using ataidle on "diskless" workstations with attached hdd (now if that's not an oxymoron!). Most activities happen on the NFS mounted system partitions, and the hdd is only there for backup purposes and for file systems that are not always in use (like /home and so). Running ataidle on such workstations proves to be very effective. > Svein Halvor -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:14:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D08316A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:14:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 200F943D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:14:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2005 20:14:54 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 21:14:54 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:14:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200411141928.31403.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200411141928.31403.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2685912.fdSFMgdiVD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503182114.52431@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Paul Brooks cc: Owen Steinert Subject: Re: x11 cookie expires after some time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:14:56 -0000 --nextPart2685912.fdSFMgdiVD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 14. November 2004 19:28 schrieb Emanuel Strobl: > Dear all, > > perhaps someone can explain me why I can't execute a x-program via a ssh > session after some time (some hours). When I log into the machine > everything is fine and xclock or any other x11 application is working fin= e. > But after some hours, when I try to execute exactly the same application > once again, I get the following error: > Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Lost the connection to the X server > > The session wasn't interrupted nor did I modify anything else, just the s= sh > session has idled for some hours. > > I have to admit that I'm not really familar with the .Xauthority stuff, b= ut > it works for the first hour, so why not as long as the ssh session exists? > Here's some off-list communication, Paul Brooks told me that it's=20 =46orwardX11Trusted in ssh config. Thanks a lot! Am Freitag, 18. M=E4rz 2005 20:35 schrieb Paul Brooks: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:59:49AM +0100, Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Hmmm, I really can't remember what I did (if I did anything at all) but= I > > don't have this problem anymore. I'm sure I read something about the > > cookie timeout, and played with xauth, but unfortunately haven't > > bookmarked anything. > > Sorry, I can't help you, perhaps there were modifications in RELENG_5 b= ut > > I don't believe that, just to note that I'm running 5.4-PRE now. > > > > I had a quick look at several config files and also couldn't find > > anything special, just that I added (uncommented) "ForwardAgent yes" > > in /etc/ssh/ssh_config. > > If that's the solution, please drop me a note. > > Just a quick follow-up -- turns out ssh appears to have been the issue. = It > wasn't ForwardAgent, but ForwardX11Trusted that appears to have fixed the > issue for 5.3 release. =2DHarry --nextPart2685912.fdSFMgdiVD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCOza8Bylq0S4AzzwRAn6rAJ9GtUyuP+Hd4LwZ7lIEl9GymJx/zQCeJWX9 22V9qx+pqy3cbJJRANWrvUY= =s65F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2685912.fdSFMgdiVD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:17:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488D816A4CF for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:17:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C624943D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so286215rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pAIT/CGsiv1Bt0RQqnwPQHBObfzI1aneysGILFJsIKCXlz/rwZUhNvOdIM+IokcJezcj0eoWYdUzoJLSo1lZ/3HIdQhPmCprFvidbt6JTAAjkuzJcqfbAC2LMIifUwAUxlmJCIMLn0gYH0aeicrIRpq2g8P53gKWEODqwaaIHrc= Received: by 10.39.1.24 with SMTP id d24mr2750565rni; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:17:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:49 -0500 From: Danny To: FreeBSD-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache from the ports - default httpd.conf deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:17:50 -0000 FreeBSD 4.7R (yah I know I need to update this) apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS functionality I accidentally deleted the default ("out of the box") httpd.conf for my Apache install. Could someone please help by supplying their httpd.conf for 1.3.33 or direct me to a place to download a full default httpd.conf? Thank you, ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:36:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDF116A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047E43D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (webmail33-en1 [10.13.8.113])j2IKa7LH006223; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail33 (localhost.mac.com [127.0.0.1]) j2IKa7QB004257; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <13309107.1111178166833.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:36:06 -0900 From: Peter Giessel To: Danny in-reply-to: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit references: X-Originating-IP: 158.145.111.132/instID=163 cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Apache from the ports - default httpd.conf deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:07 -0000 On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 11:18AM, Danny wrote: >Could someone please help by supplying their httpd.conf for 1.3.33 or >direct me to a place to download a full default httpd.conf? if you just cd /usr/ports/www/apache13 then "make" (not "make install"), you can find the default httpd.conf in ./work/apache_1.3.33/conf/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:36:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ED016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FDD343D58 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 15606 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 20:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 20:36:18 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:37:03 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Danny Message-ID: <20050318173703.1e2410c5@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Apache from the ports - default httpd.conf deleted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:36:20 -0000 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:49 -0500 Danny wrote: > FreeBSD 4.7R (yah I know I need to update this) > > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS > functionality > > I accidentally deleted the default ("out of the box") httpd.conf for > my Apache install. > > Could someone please help by supplying their httpd.conf for 1.3.33 or > direct me to a place to download a full default httpd.conf? > > Thank you, > > ...D Hello, I did a 'pkg_info -L "apache*"' and I noticed the following file: /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf-dist If it is not there you can read that file from the downloadable package or port. Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 20:54:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C6E43D49 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76C669A40 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:54:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:54:57 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050318155457.62fec48a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ntpd core dumping on 5.3-p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:55:00 -0000 I'm experiencing a problem similar to the problem described in this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/078139.html My ntp.conf contains: server clock.psu.edu server fuzz.psc.edu prefer server ntp-1.ece.cmu.edu prefer server ntp-2.ece.cmu.edu prefer If I comment out the first two servers, ntpd works fine. Otherwise, I get coredumps. It seems a little extreme to me that any server could remotely cause ntpd to core. I'm willing to look in to this, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to get ntp built with debugging symbols. FreeBSD bolivia.potentialtech.com 5.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Feb 24 08:26:07 UTC 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKING i386 -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 21:20:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC8716A4D9 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:20:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp1alice.tin.it (vsmtp1alice.tin.it [212.216.176.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE8543D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:20:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from giupil@aliceposta.it) Received: from [82.55.88.50] (82.55.88.50) by vsmtp1alice.tin.it (7.0.027) id 422F1E46000E7D07 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:20:25 +0100 Message-ID: <423B463A.10907@aliceposta.it> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:20:58 +0100 From: "giupil@aliceposta.it" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050303 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sysinstall/fdisk and the disk geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:20:29 -0000 Hi at all. My question is simple. My laptop is a 1513lmi Acer, it has a TOSHIBA MK6025GAS disk with 117210240 LBA sectors. When I install Freebsd 5.3, Sysinstall, in the Fdisk submenu,state the geometry 116280/16/63 then translate automatically this geometry to 7296/255/63. But both when I use the 5.3-RELEASE-amd64-disc2 and when I use a installed system, Fdisk find the geometry 116280/16/63 and doesn't translate automatically this geometry to 7296/255/63. So: When I use Fdisk, have I to change the geometry from 116280/16/63 to 7296/255/63? Sysinstall, partitioning, use Fdisk then: why is there this difference? Is there a more exhaustive documentation about Fdisk and Sysinstall that the man pages? Thank you Bye Giuseppe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 21:33:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5BA16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:33:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFBC43D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:33:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21521 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 21:33:57 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Mar 2005 21:33:57 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A0ED782; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:33:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Gary Kline References: <20050317220638.GA54657@thought.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Mar 2005 16:33:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050317220638.GA54657@thought.org> Message-ID: <44ekec7i63.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to save a particular mail file?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:33:58 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > Just thought I'd ask the list if anyone has a script to > read /var/mail/ and grab a single file. I just > sub'd to a mailing list that is produced only in HTML. > I'd like to save it to /tmp, strip it, and have it ready > for lynx or links. > > If anyone onlist has already done this, it would save me > from reinventing *this* wheel. The first thing that occurs to me is using formail (part of procmail) and maybe metamail if formail can't extract the HTML... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 21:34:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3896716A4CE; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:34:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD0143D46; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:34:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E6B34D453; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0A334D437; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:34:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423B4951.2070401@cloudview.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:34:09 -0800 From: John Pettitt Organization: CloudView Photographic User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: by skipjack Subject: USB disk hang - 5.4PRE - gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:34:11 -0000 I just upgraded a box to 5.4PRE and started experiencing regular system hangs at exactly 1AM - I traced it to BackupPC which was starting it's run at that time backing up to a gstripe set made from two 300GB USB disks. The first thing I assumed was that something in Samba or perl didn't like the 5.4 upgrade so I rebuilt my entire ports tree (portupgrade -fa) to be sure I had no old libs. It still fails. Next I moved the two drives out of their USB housings and put them on the IDE controller (disconnecting the CD burner to make space). It's working fine like that (all be it with disks hanging out the side of the machine). So it looks like USB is the culprit. A few data points: 1) It worked fine on 5.3 2) Motherboard is an Intel D845GVSR with a Celeron D 2.9Ghz and 512Mb Ram 3) USB disk interfaces are from a couple of WD external drives (although the drives are in fact Maxtor because I upgraded them WD boxes) 4) A single WD250GB disk also on USB seems to work fine it's only the stripe set that has a problem 5) When it fails the entire disk system locks (including IDE) but the machines keeps running until each process locks as it needs to talk to the disk 6) No meaningful syslog log entries Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 21:39:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E06E16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:39:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1538543D5F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:39:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C75569A40; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:39:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:39:48 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: John Pettitt Message-Id: <20050318163948.2234be1e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <423B4339.9050207@cloudview.com> References: <20050318155457.62fec48a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <423B4339.9050207@cloudview.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd core dumping on 5.3-p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:39:50 -0000 John Pettitt wrote: > > Bill Moran wrote: > > >I'm experiencing a problem similar to the problem described in this thread: > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/078139.html > > > >My ntp.conf contains: > >server clock.psu.edu > >server fuzz.psc.edu prefer > >server ntp-1.ece.cmu.edu prefer > >server ntp-2.ece.cmu.edu prefer > > > >If I comment out the first two servers, ntpd works fine. Otherwise, I get > >coredumps. > > > >It seems a little extreme to me that any server could remotely cause ntpd > >to core. I'm willing to look in to this, but I'm having trouble figuring > >out how to get ntp built with debugging symbols. > > > >FreeBSD bolivia.potentialtech.com 5.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Feb 24 08:26:07 UTC 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKING i386 > > you can only have one preferred server. First off: Where did you get that tidbit. I don't think it's accurate. It says nothing about it in the man page for ntp.conf, and it works fine on previous version of ntpd. Secondly, and more important, it doesn't help anyway. * If I remove all the "prefer" and try to start ntpd, it still coredumps. * If I set only one "prefer", it still coredumps. * If I comment out the first two servers, but set the remaining two _both_ to "prefer", it runs fine. Thirdly, even if it were illegal to have multiple "prefer" directives, the program still should not coredump because of an invalid config file. So, we come badk to my original statement: After additional testing, it still seems as if the first two servers on this list are coredumping ntpd. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:06:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9337216A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:06:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFD343D53 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so286233rna for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Iqldl2n5GPrut+BN1knxEccZcgxQATLtCMFWQ8UpCN2lJsmki+vaOJOBNrQ1auLUIp1M8x30bi26VeFsUtaU/scs4y3mM3GsqMFe8/n0xji+Wd88cO81fbpEnIn+GamnCw6FM4gPb9YhpBOfHhib3KMQlGbmHkrHaXlEfhAZu0s= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr2867299rnb; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:06:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:06:57 -0500 From: Danny To: FreeBSD-questions In-Reply-To: <13309107.1111178166833.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <13309107.1111178166833.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Subject: Re: Apache from the ports - default httpd.conf deleted (Solved) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:06:58 -0000 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:36:06 -0900, Peter Giessel wrote: > On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 11:18AM, Danny wrote: > > >Could someone please help by supplying their httpd.conf for 1.3.33 or > >direct me to a place to download a full default httpd.conf? > > if you just cd /usr/ports/www/apache13 > then "make" (not "make install"), you can find the default httpd.conf in > ./work/apache_1.3.33/conf/ Thank you - that worked. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:09:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B78516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:09:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A16443D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.20] (networktechpc.calarts.edu [198.182.157.20]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j2IM96w02332 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:09:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423B5182.3030801@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:09:06 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NLB Network Load Balance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:09:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have dual NICs (Intel 1000/MT) in my FreeBSD 5.3 Server. I would like to use both NICs to send and receive traffic for NLB. Each currently has a different IP can some one point me in the right direction so that they can act together? Thanks - -- Sean Murphy Network Technician California Institute of the Arts smurphy@calarts.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCO1GCU1XvdHZC/KcRAvpFAJ9MjT+Ak3nffLaaY4AfqgvVHZtR1ACfTD/w sU3Sry8H1/BsdQj1NFNu43A= =oYTP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:13:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410BC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:13:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE8443D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E82169A42; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:13:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:13:46 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: John Pettitt Message-Id: <20050318171346.33426573.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <423B4D9F.3060109@cloudview.com> References: <20050318155457.62fec48a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <423B4339.9050207@cloudview.com> <20050318163948.2234be1e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <423B4D9F.3060109@cloudview.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd core dumping on 5.3-p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:13:49 -0000 John Pettitt wrote: > > Bill Moran wrote: > > >John Pettitt wrote: > > > >>Bill Moran wrote: > >> > >>>I'm experiencing a problem similar to the problem described in this thread: > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-February/078139.html > >>> > >>>My ntp.conf contains: > >>>server clock.psu.edu > >>>server fuzz.psc.edu prefer > >>>server ntp-1.ece.cmu.edu prefer > >>>server ntp-2.ece.cmu.edu prefer > >>> > >>>If I comment out the first two servers, ntpd works fine. Otherwise, I get > >>>coredumps. > >>> > >>>It seems a little extreme to me that any server could remotely cause ntpd > >>>to core. I'm willing to look in to this, but I'm having trouble figuring > >>>out how to get ntp built with debugging symbols. > >>> > >>>FreeBSD bolivia.potentialtech.com 5.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Feb 24 08:26:07 UTC 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKING i386 > >>> > Does it core dump as soon as it starts or after a while? It consistenly takes two seconds to coredump. > What do ntpq -c rv and ntpq -c peer say? Not really enough time to issue those commands before ntpd cores. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:18:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B884C16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vps.vocaboly.com (vps.vocaboly.com [207.58.137.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6151143D6B for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from newbie@freebsdblog.org) Received: from p3ee3bf3a.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.227.191.58] helo=kevin) by vps.vocaboly.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DCPnh-0003Hu-V3 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:18:38 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01c52c08$acc920f0$6402a8c0@kevin> From: "KP" To: References: <20050318170200.E465A16A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:20:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.vocaboly.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - freebsdblog.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Default mysql config file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:18:39 -0000 Hello, My /var will run out of space soon, I was told that changing mysql store place was a good solution. But I can't find the default configuration file, is it ok to create a new file with the only line indicating the store position? I'm a newbie and more details would be appreciated. Regards, Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:30:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB3F16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7678243D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:30:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reetix@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so447174wra for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aQR0nLP5scujTj7TfYacz8dLyiGHOxRtDd0mhTLZ2eFXLuVrIgoyMsNGcIL2gIWdxD7mHDhHc8IQcIR4aFERviSU+ZCnRl70QUuLsy5c8bp8VRJCSYg2EGKiRrIwDIfjyYTrZojiPNDKZwvoHU4HGVTKL3bVGg+RAJasVXY7K2Q= Received: by 10.54.77.17 with SMTP id z17mr669901wra; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.39 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:30:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:30:25 +0000 From: paul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: default ACL's permission problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: paul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:30:28 -0000 hello, This applies to FreeBSD 5.3 Release: I've followed the examples on setting up default acl's located at this website: 'Working With ACLs in FreeBSD 5.x' http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200310/acl.html I'm having problems with this: % umask 027 % mkdir dir setfacl -m u::rwx,m::rwx,g::rx,o::rx dir setfacl -dm u::rwx,m::rwx,g::rx,o::rx dir setfacl -dm u:gregory:rwx,m::rwx dir % touch dir/file.txt % getfacl dir/file.txt #file:dir/file.txt #owner:1009 #group:0 user::rw- user:gregory:rwx # effective: r-- group::r-x # effective: r-- mask::r-- other::--- when i attempt to write to file.txt as user gregory, I get permission denied - I can see that this is what I should expect because the mask is r--, but why? I've set rwx above? I saw a similar post on this list, and it is mentions that the file will be masked with umask. am I suppose to change my umask ? if so, why? why can't I set acl's to simply apply the default acl which I've set on the dir to any dirs/files created in that directory regardless of umask? Any help would be appreciated, Regards, Paul Manchester, UK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:31:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8EC16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:31:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A0643D3F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2IMVNZ10853; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503182231.j2IMVNZ10853@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: newbie@freebsdblog.org (KP) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:31:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <001b01c52c08$acc920f0$6402a8c0@kevin> from "KP" at Mar 18, 2005 11:20:18 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default mysql config file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:31:27 -0000 > > Hello, > > My /var will run out of space soon, I was told that changing mysql store > place was a good solution. But I can't find the default configuration file, > is it ok to create a new file with the only line indicating the store > position? I'm a newbie and more details would be appreciated. If you have room somewhere, you could just move all of /var/db and make a link. Then, as far as MySQL is ocncerned, nothing changed. ////jerry > > Regards, Kevin > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:36:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A4C16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:36:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scorpion.eng.ufl.edu (scorpion.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BE9A43D31 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:36:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@eng.ufl.edu) Received: (qmail 6118 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 22:36:40 -0000 Received: from scanner.engnet.ufl.edu (HELO ?128.227.152.221?) (128.227.152.221) by scorpion.eng.ufl.edu with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 22:36:40 -0000 Message-ID: <423B57F8.8070109@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:36:40 -0500 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <1111157911.33063.10.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <4864.216.220.59.169.1111164325.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Christian Tischler Subject: Re: [OT] Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:36:41 -0000 Ean Kingston wrote: >>On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 08:06, Christian Tischler wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing >>>to set up an MS box at all. As I know I could run something like VMware >>>virtual server or Wine, but I do not know if such an combination would >>>be stable (sopken in terms of windows stability). The next consideration >>>would be the performance of the overal setup. >>> >>>Any hints or suggenstions would be great. >>> >>> > >As someone who has inhereted an Exchange server I have a few hints for you. > >1 Run Exchange on a Dedicated Windows Server (2000 or 2003). Do not fiddle >with VMware or Wine. You are going to need a license for Windows to run >Exchange under VMware (or bochs). You are probably going to need a license >of Windows to run it under wine (if that is even possible). In any case, >you will lose stability if you don't dedicate a system to Windows. > >2 You need to keep the disk where Exchange stores its mail database at >least 55% free or Exchange will not work properly. This is because you >need to periodically rebuild the Exchange database to keep performance >tollerable. Also when mail is deleted in an exchange mail store, it is not >actually deleted but just marked for deletion. You need to take the mail >store offline (so nobody can access their mailbox) periodically and run a >tool to purge the deleted items. This takes hours on any decent sized mail >system. When this happens it creates temporary files roughly 110% the size >of the mail store. > [etc.] As someone who used to administer and Exchange Server, I agree. It is a serious pain, and requires constant handholding. I know someone who _loves_ Scalix (http://www.scalix.com). It's an Exchange replacement that runs on Linux (and maybe FreeBSD), but that's all I know about it. If you need to support Outlook clients, it might work for you, and it's probably cheaper than Exchange. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 22:42:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1316516A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:42:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web40628.mail.yahoo.com (web40628.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.92.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE78843D2F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dbase77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29343 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2005 22:42:43 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Kfk0CEuYW9Y2UeEm0yg1BYcXdLxoBZNtkl8rpaQZkHTZV0bn4iieDXgMhnQyeuoOVbXrzR+nfrEmvXYnQiwEIyj/sQEpoMnPrEadf3IeOOlEIK+Sv2GbJaA30A0pYUgllul1v0ZLkKUlYGZ8SgGe5BgMw4P458quW/v5bu6X34I= ; Message-ID: <20050318224243.29341.qmail@web40628.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.46.87.55] by web40628.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:42:43 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:42:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "Feroz F. Basir" To: freebsd questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: ntpq:write to localhost.domain failed: no route to host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:42:44 -0000 Hi, I compiled ipfilter option in my kernel. As usual reboot my machine. When I run "ntpq -p" I got an error "ntpq:write to localhost.domain failed: no route to host". Before I compiled in ipfilter, it worked. My /etc/ipf.rules contains "pass in all and pass out all" Anybody has any ideas let me know, please? Thank you in advance. regards, feroz Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 23:04:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945016A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8544743D2F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:04:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Mar 2005 23:04:34 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 00:04:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:04:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050318224243.29341.qmail@web40628.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050318224243.29341.qmail@web40628.mail.yahoo.com> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart17652704.i2Ch18x73U"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503190004.32181@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: "Feroz F. Basir" Subject: Re: ntpq:write to localhost.domain failed: no route to host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:04:36 -0000 --nextPart17652704.i2Ch18x73U Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 18. M=E4rz 2005 23:42 schrieb Feroz F. Basir: > Hi, > > I compiled ipfilter option in my kernel. As usual > reboot my machine. When I run "ntpq -p" I got an error > "ntpq:write to localhost.domain failed: no route to > host". Before I compiled in ipfilter, it worked. My > /etc/ipf.rules contains "pass in all and pass out all" If these are dummy rules to let you experiment you may want to change them = to pass in quick all and pass out qick all. Otherwise any other rule after these will be examined and maybe you have so= me=20 blocks anywhere. =2DHarry > > Anybody has any ideas let me know, please? > > Thank you in advance. > > regards, > feroz > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart17652704.i2Ch18x73U Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCO16ABylq0S4AzzwRAi/oAJ9py2ME2WNQsz/vt0uzF3iXug2MfACgjJbh LJ9K+aQKoB3mEBiAH0pDAdk= =qf+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart17652704.i2Ch18x73U-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 23:41:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5DD16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:41:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF31E43D4C for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:41:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B58CA1C00088 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:41:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9DF181C00083 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:41:26 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050318234126647.9DF181C00083@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:41:26 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <742126291.20050319004126@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:41:28 -0000 Christian Tischler writes: > I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing > to set up an MS box at all. Microsoft Exchange Server runs only on Windows server operating systems. > Any hints or suggenstions would be great. Buy a server version of Windows, or choose a different messaging system. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 23:44:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:44:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB6043D39 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:44:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60CFD1C00092 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:44:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4555C1C00085 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:44:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050318234437284.4555C1C00085@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:44:36 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503181627.06020@harrymail> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <200503181627.06020@harrymail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:44:38 -0000 Emanuel Strobl writes: > ??? Windows is a really good, well maintained standardized and secure piece of > software compared to Exchange. I can't imagine why someone is even > considering exchange when he knows about FreeBSD and it's programs. Exchange is the best choice for intra-organizational e-mail on relatively homogenous internal networks. The many features of Exchange provide a great many relevant and useful advantages in this type of environment. For heterogenous networks and ISPs, Exchange is a poor choice, because most users won't be able to profit from it, and because it is very difficult to implement when many machines in a network are non-Windows (and the Exchange servers themselves _must_ run Windows). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 23:48:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF7D16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:48:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C1543D2D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so286605rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IKMDB+8e8hI4rNW8Ac7IRaG/kQZ9MIb/vrza7IAQd/U1NYJrZv5j+XzT0AHZJAi3WXu2SHdl105yFypJDhDxhq5KNblf1g9uHZQwMwLXt4OH+uYMGC/+ZZ4HPKJg9y0WkyjyryumTSutsD6mvvFL3QDrtkuMIxvZRT0oQyh26WQ= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr2701079rng; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:48:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:48:00 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <200503181627.06020@harrymail> <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:48:01 -0000 I have had excellent results with Novell GroupWise. --Nick On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:44:36 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Emanuel Strobl writes: > > > ??? Windows is a really good, well maintained standardized and secure piece of > > software compared to Exchange. I can't imagine why someone is even > > considering exchange when he knows about FreeBSD and it's programs. > > Exchange is the best choice for intra-organizational e-mail on > relatively homogenous internal networks. The many features of Exchange > provide a great many relevant and useful advantages in this type of > environment. > > For heterogenous networks and ISPs, Exchange is a poor choice, because > most users won't be able to profit from it, and because it is very > difficult to implement when many machines in a network are non-Windows > (and the Exchange servers themselves _must_ run Windows). > > -- > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 18 23:55:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372AB16A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF5C43D1D for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:55:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1aa.341d25a0 (15876); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r32 (mblk-r32.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.22]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID73-3e04423b6a62283; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from 24.47.89.83 by mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.22) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.22 cc: linicks@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:55:22 -0000 :Boris, : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was slow :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the newer :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my test :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with it :as well. : :--Nick FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and its about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but networking is a large component for most people I think. Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. So its hard to justify. FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious wrote: > > --- cyb wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > 4GB). > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > feel. > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > Boris > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > wrote: > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > 4.9. > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > Opteron here > > > > > > Boris > > > > -- > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 00:10:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD8116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:10:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2AD43D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from hedron.org (unknown [192.168.89.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C881C104 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:10:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:09:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Ean Kingston To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <277156B6-980B-11D9-902C-000A95D73348@hedron.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 gvinum and growfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:10:18 -0000 Hi, How do I make growfs actually grow a gvinum disk on FreeBSD 5.3? I've read the man pages, the Handbook, and done some searching with no luck. To help understand what I'm trying to accomplish here, I've created a filesystem that mounts to /export on a gvinum volume. The volume is configured as a mirror. I want to double it's size. To do this I used gvinum to add a subdisk to each plex of the mirror (this worked fine). gvinum now reports the volume as 32GB (it used to be 16GB). The filesystem is still 16GB. When I unmount the filesystem and run growfs on the device it claims there is no space to grow: # growfs -s 33554432 /dev/gvinum/export growfs: we are not growing (8388608 -> 8388608) And yet # disklabel /dev/gvinum/export # /dev/gvinum/export: 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 33554432 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 b: 33554432 0 swap c: 33554432 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit disklabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities better still: # gvinum list 2 drives: D a State: up /dev/ad1s1g A: 58662/108326 MB (54%) D b State: up /dev/ad0s1g A: 58662/108326 MB (54%) 5 volumes: ... V export State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 32 GB 8 plexes: ... P export.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 32 GB P export.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 32 GB 12 subdisks: ... S export.p1.s0 State: up D: b Size: 16 GB S export.p0.s0 State: up D: a Size: 16 GB S export.p0.s1 State: up D: a Size: 16 GB S export.p1.s1 State: up D: b Size: 16 GB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 00:58:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B704D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:58:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D596043D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:58:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johna9999@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so248163wri for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:58:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EB/dyV9tUk82tnPYwL9599fLyQ7YMn88t07TjbQopYRlu/Qsx//laJ2J61RQIp0lmtd86x/+KIRwexoxSVYzrVR9iB3/hOWo6XxhlRQPFSUxgR0HR3o2HlieW25s5w9RZoeNA3YNf9zAVk0kb54hnuQaORiyLenUDt0oqwDTqPY= Received: by 10.54.6.24 with SMTP id 24mr84289wrf; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.66 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1ddef2670503181658378c857b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:58:13 -0500 From: "John A." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423AD486.9000008@scls.lib.wi.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1ddef26705031618062ca77d49@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317082121efe523@mail.gmail.com> <1ddef267050317194320705b57@mail.gmail.com> <423AD486.9000008@scls.lib.wi.us> Subject: Re: Ethernet issue: works one way but not another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "John A." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:58:15 -0000 OK, lets see if this helps... dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134152192 (127 MB) avail memory = 121622528 (115 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0x5000-0x500f,0x4000-0x4041,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) ahc0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xd7000000-0xd7000fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe800-0xe87f mem 0xd7001000-0xd700107f irq 5 at device 13.0 on pci0 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 orm0: at iomem 0xcc000-0xd07ff,0xc0000-0xcbfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 451024000 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 2 steps (100% to 50.0%), currently 100.0% da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) rc.conf: (names have been changed to protect the innocent/guilty) gateway_enable="NO" hostname="myhost.domain.com" nisdomainname="domain.com" ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.79.254/24" defaultrouter="192.168.79.1" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" ifconfig: (This is when connected to internal network through 3Com 100mb hub) xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=9 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe7a:e4ec%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.79.254 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.79.255 ether 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 netstat -rn: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.79 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 192.168.79.1 00:30:48:41:dc:58 UHLW 0 4 xl0 1084 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%xl0/64 link#1 UC xl0 fe80::210:4bff:fe7a:e4ec%xl0 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%xl0/32 link#1 UC xl0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ping -c 5 192.168.79.1: PING 192.168.79.1 (192.168.79.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.79.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.626 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.79.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.567 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.79.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.619 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.79.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.464 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.79.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.519 ms --- 192.168.79.1 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.464/0.559/0.626/0.061 ms ifconfig xl0: (This is when connected directly to internet through wireless radio using a 3Com 10mb hub) xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=9 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe7a:e4ec%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet XXX.XXX.75.254 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast XXX.XXX.75.255 ether 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 XXX.XXX.75 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%xl0/64 link#1 UC xl0 fe80::210:4bff:fe7a:e4ec%xl0 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%xl0/32 link#1 UC xl0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ping XXX.XXX.75.1: (Ping eventually times out and says host is fown) PING XXX.XXX.75.1 (XXX.XXX.75.1): 56 data bytes --- XXX.XXX.75.1 ping statistics --- 9 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss netstat -rn: (After ping, host appears in routing table.) Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 XXX.XXX.75 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 XXX.XXX.75.1 00:60:3e:10:d7:e9 UHLW 0 17 xl0 1200 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%xl0/64 link#1 UC xl0 fe80::210:4bff:fe7a:e4ec%xl0 00:10:4b:7a:e4:ec UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%xl0/32 link#1 UC xl0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 This happens the same way weather or not I define a defult route. As I said previously, when I run tcpdump (with no arguments), it takes over 2 minutes to respond with the first packet captured. The time stamp on that packet is from when tcpdump started. When I connect this system to the 100mb hub, tcpdump responds normally showing my expected traffic and doesn't drop packets. After scrounging around, I laid my hands on a 10mb hub with 1 100mb port. Pluggung FBSD into 100mb, with radio in 10mb port, I was able to run tcpdump with expected results, but still could not ping the router (XXX.XXX.75.1). A little backround on myself: While I never claim to be an expert in FBSD, I have been working with BSDI at the isp I work for for the last 8 years. I have a FBSD 4.7 server running in my server farm doing backups and audio streaming for some radio stations. In all of these years, I don't recall ever seeing symptoms like these. It looks to me like it might be some kind of timing issue. I realize that most people are useing 100mb or faster networks, but I can't believe that noone has tried to connect a FBSD 5.3 system to a 10mb network. As for my network topology, I have an internal network that goes through a firewall. This network is 100mb. I have no problem useing this network. Everything I have tried on FBSD works. I can ping FBSD from other systems on internal network. My wireless network is for isp customers and I connect to it for monitoring purposes. The radios have 10mb ports on them, I have no choice. Since BSDI is no longer around, I have to move to another os. I prefer not to follow the other sys admin and convert to peguin. I have BSDI servers that have been up for over 2 years. On average, penguin boxes have to be rebooted every quarter. My FBSD streamer has been up fro 281 days (and that was due to power and ups failure at a co-lo facility). I'm hoping that this will turn out to not be the head scratcher I fear it might. Hope this information helps. John A. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:15:50 -0600, Greg Barniskis wrote: > Abu Khaled wrote: > ... > > Am I the only one interested in this topic? Where is the rest of our > > lovely community? > > Come on guys let's scratch those gray cells and help John out. > > > > Although progress is being made on getting detail, it's still > insufficient (and, not entirely consistent? if the connection in > question is *wired* then probably the fact that a wireless access > point exists on the same subnet is not likely relevant). Anyway, I > do not have a clear vision of what connects to what, how. > > The relevant portions of rc.conf, ifconfig output (and ipconfig > output from the M$ box), the syntax of the tcpdump, the specs of the > box, and other relevant details might spur more response. A simple > ASCII representation of the network might help. > > FWIW, I've seen tcpdump behave poorly if the box or card just > doesn't have the horsepower required to parse the volume of all the > packets being seen on the network. > > re: can't ping M$ box... M$ firewall sounds like the most likely > culprit. If you try to ping and get no response, does the M$ box > nevertheless show up in FreeBSD's arp table (compare arp -an before > and after the ping test)? If the MAC address shows up, you've got > connectivity just fine, but something's dropping the ICMP packets. > > PS to Abu -- your written English is as good or better than many > native speakers of the language, so don't apologize for it. =) > > -- > Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator > South Central Library System (SCLS) > Library Interchange Network (LINK) > , (608) 266-6348 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 01:32:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FFB16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:32:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAA743D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:32:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from metrol.net@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so408275wri for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:32:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pbJWtC9xPabzq6hIeH9IGD3yzS8gQyW65+ULMZ/TYsYs9Kl6mKgWMYsx9XXiGZt13PNQL4eEJRQaxMiCFsXfSTeV6KiZJDsoibN6GlT7T31h2LQYOSf2xdEOWQ2SDwiU9M5NCB5RnQMIBgWJRfJCZGmP3NDNSYM5Klar6cENYlY= Received: by 10.54.23.67 with SMTP id 67mr2255938wrw; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.37 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:32:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:32:36 -0800 From: Michael Collette To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Permissions for Linux apps via LDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Collette List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:32:37 -0000 I now have 2 different Linux applications that refuse to start because getpwuid_r() won't return a user ID. Both acroread7 and realplayer are dead in the water for me. I'm using pam_ldap authentication, which works great for all my native FreeBSD apps. How do I get the Linux apps to perform a similar lookup now? I'm not seeing any pam_ldap or nss_ldap linux ports, which would seem to mean that simply changing the nsswitch.conf file in the /compat/linux area won't do me much good. I could live without realplayer working, but acroread is a pretty critical application for my end users. It also looks like this will be a growing trend for Linux applications in the future. Do we need to port new Linux pam modules into play, or is there some simpler method for fixing this? Thanks, -- "When you come to a fork in the road....Take it" - Yogi Berra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 01:38:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA7D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:38:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B75143D49 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:38:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan@confabulator.net) Received: (qmail 30258 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2005 01:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.83?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 01:38:04 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 209.197.24.227 Message-ID: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:40:36 -0600 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to avoid forkbomb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:38:08 -0000 Hi, After reading this article: http://www.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/sfonline/columnists-item.pl?id=308, I decided to give the forkbomb script a try which is below: #!/bin/sh $0 & $0 & The system was unresponsive for a couple minutes but then FreeBSD killed the script and the system was accessible. I started looking around for what my process limit was set at but I found a couple different values. ulimit -a outputs: core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 524288 file size (blocks, -f) unlimited max locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited open files (-n) 7264 pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 1 stack size (kbytes, -s) 65536 cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited max user processes (-u) 3632 kern.maxproc is set to 4036 /etc/login.conf reads: :maxproc=unlimited:\ My questions are: Am I looking at the correct values? Which is the actual process limit? What would you recommend that I set it to in order to have my machine shrug off the fork bomb sooner? What would be a good process limit for a LAMP webserver? How would I set the process limits? Thanks in advance. - Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 01:52:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D0516A4D0 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cowbert.2y.net (d46h180.public.uconn.edu [137.99.46.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34E6843D49 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net) Received: (qmail 70622 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Mar 2005 01:52:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:52:23 -0500 From: "Peter C. Lai" To: bob@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050319015223.GJ446@cowbert.2y.net> References: <20050318013720.GH446@cowbert.2y.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP routing failure [fixed] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:52:26 -0000 Yes it was a sleep issue (and not the sleep(2) kind haha). *facepalm* Apparently the POP uses a 2 stage authentication process. First, you use unix/slip style authentication after which the POP then initiates CHAP. I had specified the inccorect password for CHAP but after the initial autentication the POP still assigned me an IP; albeit one that didn't talk to anything but the next hop and its nameserver. it's all good now! On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 09:38:47AM -0500, bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > > Check out the install guide at > http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php > it has the best step by step instructions for using userppp. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter C. > Lai > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 8:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org; > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: PPP routing failure > > > Hi everyone - > I'm experiencing some funky routing failures when I dialup netscape > internet > via user-level PPP: > I can negotiate IPCP fine; get a point-to-point link via tun0: > myaddr: 172.143.224.146; hisaddr: 63.152.0.70 > When the default route is setup to 63.152.0.70, all of my packets > are > blackholed after the first router hop. I am not using NAT. > The PPP link works perfectly fine in windows dialup networking. So I > dunno > what is wrong. When I look at the routing table in windows, it seems > backwards: > > DEST NM GW IF > default 0 myaddr ppp > hisaddr 0xffffffff myaddr ppp > localhost 0xff000000 localhost localhost > myaddr 0xffffffff localhost localhost > myaddr.255.255* 0xffffffff myaddr ppp > multicast multicast myaddr ppp > > *this is the first 2 dotted quads of myaddr appended with 255.255 > > If I try to manually set these routes in 5.3-R, I still can't get > out :( > Setting ADD DEFAULT MYADDR doesn't work, because ppp will still > think MYADDR > is 0.0.0.0. Either I need sleep or something is funky here... > > -- > Peter C. Lai > University of Connecticut > Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology > Yale University School of Medicine > SenseLab | Research Assistant > http://cowbert.2y.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Peter C. Lai University of Connecticut Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology Yale University School of Medicine SenseLab | Research Assistant http://cowbert.2y.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 01:57:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA62D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:57:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E32343D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan@confabulator.net) Received: (qmail 31523 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2005 01:57:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.83?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 01:57:18 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 209.197.24.227 Message-ID: <423B879C.8020402@confabulator.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:59:56 -0600 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> In-Reply-To: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to avoid forkbomb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:57:19 -0000 I apologize, I did not mention what version I was running. Here it is: 5.3-RELEASE-p5 Ryan J. Cavicchioni wrote: > Hi, > > After reading this article: > http://www.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/sfonline/columnists-item.pl?id=308, > I decided to give the forkbomb script a try which is below: > > #!/bin/sh > > $0 & $0 & > > The system was unresponsive for a couple minutes but then FreeBSD > killed the script and the system was accessible. > > I started looking around for what my process limit was set at but I > found a couple different values. > > ulimit -a outputs: > > core file size (blocks, -c) unlimited > data seg size (kbytes, -d) 524288 > file size (blocks, -f) unlimited > max locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited > max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited > open files (-n) 7264 > pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 1 > stack size (kbytes, -s) 65536 > cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited > max user processes (-u) 3632 > > > kern.maxproc is set to 4036 > > > /etc/login.conf reads: > > :maxproc=unlimited:\ > > My questions are: > Am I looking at the correct values? > Which is the actual process limit? > What would you recommend that I set it to in order to have my machine > shrug off the fork bomb sooner? > What would be a good process limit for a LAMP webserver? > How would I set the process limits? > > Thanks in advance. > > - Ryan > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 02:26:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061F916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:26:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from m5.nyc.untd.com (m5.nyc.untd.com [64.136.22.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6984443D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:26:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jrrelay@juno.com) Received: from m5.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m5.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABBDZDNAA47693S for (sender ); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:25:04 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: R9CnQVXkTy4RC5ELwduHuf4oOS5I1fkwk2WJ9NgCG2D9RQpjCC8LYw== Received: (from jrrelay@juno.com) by m5.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KNEY4R8E; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:25:01 PST To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:22:59 -0600 Message-ID: <20050318.202259.-854787.0.jrrelay@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: jrrelay@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 2:3:1746513563 Subject: do i need to reinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:26:02 -0000 i recently bought a new and larger hard drive for my computer. i put it the machine as '/dev/ad3'. while educating myself about this new drive, i installed freebsd 5.3 on one of the slices. i am ready to eliminate the old 'ad0' and want to move the new drive so it will become '/dev/ad0'. will BSD operate in its new location without any changes to the configuration files? perhaps '/etc/fstab', and what else? or should i just reinstall freebsd after i have reconfigured the machine? jrrelay@juno.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 02:45:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5303A16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:45:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC7443D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:45:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so313820rne for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:45:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dVl4tdaWcKmJiNBMAGH53AQCyniAcReWm3m2kPkMPxIXLP6yCTEheVgmZkjr5L/VOrbXrrJSiDt7f4uho2VypEKrQUupGnvju0G/+VgCJeZkGfKS0b02xgYCWu9kxXbTdQVrr7QaqyPdJivAzxrO3lijl30tEQUXO2rJqiIKllE= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr3010971rnj; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:45:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: "em1897@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:45:45 -0000 em1897, I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a Linux Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the performance I need out of FreeBSD. --Nick On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > :Boris, > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was slow > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the newer > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my test > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with it > :as well. > : > :--Nick > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and its > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > networking is a large component for most people I think. > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > So its hard to justify. > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > wrote: > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > 4GB). > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > feel. > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > wrote: > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > 4.9. > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > > Opteron here > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > -- > > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 02:47:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0D216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:47:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sv-bg.com (proxy.sv-bg.com [213.222.60.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF53943D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:47:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lalev@sv-bg.com) Received: (qmail 10338 invoked by uid 1013); 19 Mar 2005 05:59:53 -0000 Received: from lalev@sv-bg.com by www.sv-bg.com by uid 1010 with qmail-scanner-1.22-st-qms Clear:RC:0(213.222.60.195):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. 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(lalev@sv-bg.com@213.222.60.195) by mail.sv-bg.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 05:59:47 -0000 Message-ID: <423B9296.7040700@sv-bg.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:46:46 +0200 From: Angelin Lalev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: curious about da_quirk_table X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:47:19 -0000 Greetings, I have an usb flash disk which does not support cache synchronization. Usb vendor 0x1005. (The inscription on it says "Apacer HandySTENO"). On FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE it generates several of umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi status == 0x0 error messages. I've looked in Google and in the source and found da_quirk_table array in scsi_da.c. I've added my disk data there and the disk started working... I'm just curious is that the right way to do this and if so do you gather the data. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 03:11:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4D216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:11:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DAB43D5C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.65.223]) by mta10.adelphia.netESMTP <20050319031151.YWUJ7277.mta10.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:11:51 -0500 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B934B525; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:11:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:11:43 -0500 From: Parv To: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" Message-ID: <20050319031143.GA2187@holestein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" , FreeBSD Questions References: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> <423B879C.8020402@confabulator.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423B879C.8020402@confabulator.net> cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to avoid forkbomb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: f-q List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:11:52 -0000 in message <423B879C.8020402@confabulator.net>, wrote Ryan J. Cavicchioni thusly... > > Ryan J. Cavicchioni wrote: ... > >I decided to give the forkbomb script a try which is below: > > > >#!/bin/sh > > > >$0 & $0 & > > > >The system was unresponsive for a couple minutes but then FreeBSD > >killed the script and the system was accessible. > > > >I started looking around for what my process limit was set at but FWIW, i tried a version (in ksh88 and possibly whatever /bin/sh would have been) on Sun Solaris 2.something (on Sparc), which caused ... absolutely nothing. IIRC, the version i tried was something like... :(){ :|:& }; while true; do :; done - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 03:13:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F8E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:13:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53505.mail.yahoo.com (web53505.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE7C143D54 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:13:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianccurnow@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45811 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Mar 2005 03:13:49 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=WSinbv3yrMsFc+bUCO3rEGkX6Gm8lCPGVIJ/8j0qGax3B99WgFPCorjdZyWlpyJbNC2bUKNEJJON48Ul7QmAA1CPOnkYW0N8n/fZcjXZ+Z9acir7pMCvOGWs77J+A5D5bS5gRK/tQrpAVaJHyo5/0aOWa49yqMt6CAVAgGG+ars= ; Message-ID: <20050319031349.45809.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.214.23.94] by web53505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:13:49 PST Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:13:49 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Curnow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: calcru: negative runtime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:13:50 -0000 I am new to BSD and just downloaded BSD 5.3-RELEASE. I saw a few other posts on this issue but I didn't see any solutions. I am getting excessive calcru: negative runtime messages in the syslog (and the console). According to the FAQ the solution is to use sysctl and set kern.timecounter.method=1, however this param does not exist in 5.3. Is there a solution to this issue? Thanks! Brian Curnow __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 03:16:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AE816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:16:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B597A43D4C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id o.fe.f88ee71 (15889); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r42 (mblk-r42.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.41]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID84-3e11423b99751ee; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.41) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linicks@gmail.com X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.41 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:16:13 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Nick Pavlica To: em1897@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question :em1897, : I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP :stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput :than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. :I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a Linux :Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do :have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough :after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when :it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the :performance I need out of FreeBSD. : :--Nick on a side note, I thought top posting was a no-no? I see gmail has the same issues as AOL. Or are the issues with the old farts with their newsreaders? :-) I don't get your logic. You are converting your servers from 4.x to 5.4 because you've found that 5.4 is faster than linux? Is that some sort of riddle? FreeBSD has always been faster than linux; I'm comparing FreeBSD 4.x to 5.4, so I'm not sure what linux has to do with anything here. What you can "get" in terms of throughput doesn't always give you the right answer. My tests measure kernel performance; as I'm interested in routing/packet-processing performance. Sockets add a tricky variable. But I take the IP stack out of the equation altogether by bridging packets through a box, and I prefer to use a 50% load as timings sometimes change when you start to saturate things unnaturally. You won't be running your machine at 100% load, so it makes no sense to test it that way. For the latest test I have a 3.06Ghz xeon bridging 486,000pps. For FreeBSD 4.9, this is a 50% load. The load under 5.4 is 65%. It tests interrupt and process switching performance, which for a networking device is a key performance indicator. (I think) that the 5.4 kernel is threaded, so there are latencies that are very difficult to overcome. Linux has been threaded for a long time, and always has been a poor Uniprocessor performer. 5.4 is better than linux with one processor, but if you are UP then 4.x is clearly the way to go. Linux kills 5.4 with dual processors; in fact 5.4 seems to have higher network performance with 1 processor than 2. They still have a lot of issues to work out. DragonflyBSD has done a nice job with MP, but their performance is still a work in progress. For UP, their performance is dismal so its not quite where it needs to be, but its promising. I just wish that they had done a 64-bit version of 4.x. Because at the moment it seems that there is no way to utilize the opteron fully without having to use a slow version of the OS, which negates the gains. Its a real shame. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > :Boris, > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was slow > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the newer > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my test > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with it > :as well. > : > :--Nick > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and its > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > networking is a large component for most people I think. > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > So its hard to justify. > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > wrote: > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > 4GB). > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > feel. > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > wrote: > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > 4.9. > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > > Opteron here > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > -- > > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 03:47:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDBF16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:47:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C045143D4C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:47:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:50:21 -0600 Message-ID: <423BA082.4000706@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:46:10 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Curnow References: <20050319031349.45809.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050319031349.45809.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2005 03:50:25.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[C866BEC0:01C52C36] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru: negative runtime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:47:07 -0000 Brian Curnow wrote: >I am new to BSD and just downloaded BSD 5.3-RELEASE. > >I saw a few other posts on this issue but I didn't see >any solutions. > >I am getting excessive calcru: negative runtime >messages in the syslog (and the console). > >According to the FAQ the solution is to use sysctl and >set kern.timecounter.method=1, however this param does >not exist in 5.3. > >Is there a solution to this issue? > >Thanks! > >Brian Curnow > > $sysctl -a | grep timeco kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0 kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 4005177648 kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0 kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 1108115 kern.timecounter.nbintime: 1813993971 kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 207315298 kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 1606545859 kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0 kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 115004537 kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 3989727579 kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0 kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 526 kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 201307619 kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 7 kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) ACPI-fast(1000) i8254(0) dummy(-1000000) kern.timecounter.tick: 1 I'm not the expert here, but I think I've experience. Examine the options your system has for "kern.timecounter.choice" (you can see above how I did it) and experiment until you find (if you find) a setting that seems to fix the problem. Certain chipsets seem to have issues, but I couldn't say which ones. I have, however, fixed a couple of boxes by picking a different value for this sysctl. It's likely that the FAQ hasn't yet been completely transformed into a "post-5.3-is-now-stable" format, since people were warned that 5.0-5.2 weren't "production releases". If you find that this helps you, write back and I'll try sometime Real Soon Now(tm) to send a patch to the FDP folks to address that issue.... HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 04:08:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yearning.mcc.ac.uk (yearning.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.203.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170F43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by yearning.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DCVGB-000Ab4-Er; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:23 +0000 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2J48MuA058129; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:22 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.13.1/8.12.6/Submit) id j2J48GLU058128; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:16 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:16 +0000 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20050319040816.GA58002@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20050318031137.GA99419@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <423B03F7.70405@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423B03F7.70405@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to include header files in makefiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 04:08:25 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 04:38:15PM +0000, Chuck Robey wrote: : 1) relative addressing means you have to be forever translating paths in : listings, and very often the number of include paths gets to be rather long. Okay, I can fix that easily. : The Make(1) man page doesn't show "include", the advertised command is : ".include". If you use .include, then you can modify your make, if you Also fixable. : >How can I include the .h files so the .c files are recompiled when the : >header files they require are changed? GNU make has 'make depend' but I'd : >like a better, BSDmake-centric way, if possible. : : Well, did you look at the files in /usr/share/mk, and specifically : bsd.dep.mk? You can even use the FreeBSD sources to figure out (to use : as examples) how things should work. This is the key I want to get working. I'll take a look at those files, but they are pretty deep. : I honestly keep on switching back and forth, between thinking that the : best make is bmake, or gmake. They both have key items that make them : uniquely better. I haven't decided yet. Most BSD people are (predictably) anti-gmake. I have to use gmake for a Linux project I'm on. Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 08:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B7416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:09:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8F743D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:09:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8DCEB1C0009E for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:09:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 724591C00095 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:09:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050319080942468.724591C00095@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:09:42 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <945833672.20050319090942@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <200503181627.06020@harrymail> <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:09:44 -0000 Nick Pavlica writes: > I have had excellent results with Novell GroupWise. Groupware is fine if you need other functions more than e-mail, but for an organization interested primarily or exclusively in messaging, Exchange is the best choice. For example, Lotus Notes (like Groupwise, IIRC) is primarily a data manager with a few messaging functions. Exchange is a messaging system with a few data-management functions. Most organizations need e-mail more than anything else (even though many manage to delude themselves into believing otherwise), which is why Exchange is often a good choice. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 08:46:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960C416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail3.webzone.net.au (mail3.webzone.net.au [210.8.36.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996DF43D49 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webzone.net.au) Received: from [192.168.255.2] (unverified [220.240.161.14]) by mail3.webzone.net.au for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:16:16 +1030 Message-ID: <423BE6D5.7020400@webzone.net.au> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:16:13 +1030 From: lists User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41D78555.10605@webzone.net.au> <20050102054245.GD14949@alzatex.com> <41D79361.1050806@webzone.net.au> <41D9FF35.9080702@webzone.net.au> <41E6579D.8000005@webzone.net.au> In-Reply-To: <41E6579D.8000005@webzone.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 - Write failure on transfer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:18 -0000 I have made some limited progress on the FreeBSD 5.3 Netserver problem outline below. I have been able to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a Netserver using the onboard SCSI card. However it will not install if I use the HP 1si NetRaid card for the SCSI drives. So it appears to be having a problem with the HP 1si NetRaid card. Any suggestions or advice? Lino Webzone lists wrote: > Further to this problem, I have tried installing FreeBSD5.3 on a > second hp netserver and I continue to get the same problem during the > install process. > > "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)" > > After two weeks of stuffing around I am giving up on 5.3 - there is > clearly something wrong with 5.3 - there does not appear to be > anything wrong with the hardware - its appears to be a FreeBSD 5.3 > issue -. I have gone back to 4.10 which installs fine. Somewhere > between 4.10 and 5.3 something has broken in relation to an > installation on a netserver box. > > Has anyone else got a hp netserver LC2000r or similar box and been > able to get 5.3 installed? > > Lino > > > lists wrote: > >> It looks like it is having a problem relating to the mounting the >> drives. When I rerun the FreeBSD5.3 install a second time - it lists >> the drives from the first install but they are missing the mount >> locations. >> >> Any suggestions on a work around? >> >> Lino >> >> lists wrote: >> >>> Loren M. Lang wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 03:53:33PM +1030, Lino Fusco wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I am a newbie to this list and I hope I am posting to the correct >>>>> list - apologies if I am off target. >>>>> >>>>> I am installing FreeBSD 5.3 on a hp netserver LC2000r. The box is >>>>> a dual processor P3 with three scsi2 drives running in a raid1 >>>>> configuration with one hot spare. >>>>> >>>>> We have six of these boxes. Three of them are running FreeBSD 4.8 >>>>> or 4.9 without a hitch. >>>>> >>>>> I decided to install 5.3 from CD on a fourth box and I am having a >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> I go through the install process. When it goes to write the file >>>>> structure to the drives it does this in a around 1 second - this >>>>> seems very fast. Then it starts copying from the CD and I quickly >>>>> get the following error: >>>>> >>>>> "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)" >>>>> >>>>> I click ok and the next error message is: >>>>> >>>>> "unable to transfer the base distribution from acd0, do you want >>>>> to try to retrieve it again?". >>>>> >>>>> So this has started me troubleshooting the possible causes of the >>>>> problem: >>>>> >>>>> 1) First stop was to suspect the freebsd iso I had burnt was >>>>> suspect. So I re burnt the cd and the problem persisted. I then >>>>> suspected the ISO I had downloaded was corrupted. So I downloaded >>>>> it again, burnt the cd but the problem still persisted. >>>>> >>>>> 2) I then suspected the second copy could have come from a cache >>>>> and therefore may have the same problem as the first copy - so I >>>>> checked the md5 signature but it lines up with the original from >>>>> freebsd.org >>>>> >>>>> 3) I suspected the CD Rom drive - so I swapped it with one of our >>>>> other Netserver boxes - problem still persisted. >>>>> >>>>> 4)I suspected a drive formatting problem - so I went back into the >>>>> SCSI software, redid the raid drives and reformatted them - >>>>> problem still persisted. >>>>> >>>>> 5) I suspected another hardware problem - so I pulled out FreeBSD >>>>> 4.9 to see if that would install - and it did install without any >>>>> errors. That sort of discounts there being any hardware problems. >>>>> It points to something specific to freebsd 5.3. >>>>> >>>>> So this is where I have got to - FreeBSD 4.9 will install without >>>>> errors but 5.3 will not install. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect the problem has to do with the initial setting up of the >>>>> file structure - 5.3 is doing this in about one second whereas 4.9 >>>>> takes closer to a minute to do this. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts or suggestion? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I believe FreeBSD 5.3 does support using UFS 1 in the install, just >>>> check the option in the disklabel program, but if the partitioning >>>> also >>>> fails then that may not be the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Lino >>>>> Webzone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Tried setting the partitions to UFS1 - FreeBSD 5.3 then takes closer >>> to a minute to setup the partitions just like 4.9 - but still get >>> the same error message when it goes to copy the files. >>> >>> Thanks but did not work. >>> >>> Lino >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 08:52:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BE116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6C343D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so424884rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:52:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=FyOYEC95YZwx114FiVPjOyCIC2UIHDZNvxDg/f5c6fo6VglosxQo1RLCWvNy07ldlhWWQ0nTeC1Ea2Qx9Tz4SNOvTyUnJ+rphSUd8kpr9FLMgtBcd6m1SVMiM8RpkxgZR28BbELDA1F2YG1w9q+Yjl29ELp+2Y03OgA38UwX6cI= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3154533rnd; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([24.60.144.26]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m37sm1206849rnd.2005.03.19.00.52.28; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:52:29 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 03:53:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503190353.27164.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: Effective user issue with zope X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:30 -0000 Hi =A0I=A0am=A0setting=A0up=A0zope-2.7.5-final=A0on=A0a=A0server=A0(FreeBSD=A0= 5.3-RELEASE). Installed python-2.3.5 from sources (not ports). After configuring and compiling it correctly, I got an initial error on running runzope. =46ollowing the exhortation I found on the following webpage : http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2004-May/149695.html =A0I=A0created=A0a=A0new=A0user=A0(zopeuser),=A0added=A0it=A0to=A0group=A0u= sers,=A0and=A0tried=A0to=A0run runzope as that user. I also changed the effective_user to zopeuser in zope.conf. However, I now get the error : =A0Traceback=A0(most=A0recent=A0call=A0last): =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py",=A0line=A050,= =A0in=A0? =A0=A0=A0=A0run() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py",=A0line=A019,= =A0in=A0run =A0=A0=A0=A0start_zope(opts.configroot) =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/__init__.py",=A0line= =A052,=A0in start_zope =A0=A0=A0=A0starter.startZope() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/__init__.py",=A0line= =A0231,=A0in startZope =A0=A0=A0=A0Zope.startup() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py",=A0line=A047,=A0= in=A0startup =A0=A0=A0=A0_startup() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py",=A0line=A057,= =A0in=A0startup =A0=A0=A0=A0DB=A0=3D=A0configuration.dbtab.getDatabase('/',=A0is_root=3D1) =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/DBTab/DBTab.py",=A0line=A096,=A0in= =A0getDatabase =A0=A0=A0=A0db=A0=3D=A0self._createDatabase(name,=A0is_root) =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/DBTab/DBTab.py",=A0line=A0113,=A0in _createDatabase =A0=A0=A0=A0db=A0=3D=A0factory.open() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py",=A0line= =A0172,=A0in open =A0=A0=A0=A0DB=A0=3D=A0self.createDB() =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py",=A0line= =A0169,=A0in createDB =A0=A0=A0=A0return=A0ZODBDatabase.open(self) =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/config.py",=A0line=A097,=A0in= =A0open =A0=A0=A0=A0return=A0ZODB.DB(section.storage.open(), =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/config.py",=A0line=A0128,=A0i= n=A0open =A0=A0=A0=A0quota=3Dself.config.quota) =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py",=A0line=A0227= ,=A0in __init__ =A0=A0=A0=A0self._lock_file=A0=3D=A0LockFile(file_name=A0+=A0'.lock') =A0=A0File=A0"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py",=A0line=A060,= =A0in=A0__init__ =A0=A0=A0=A0self._fp=A0=3D=A0open(path,=A0'w+') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/zope/instance/var/Data.fs.lock' =A0I=A0understand=A0partially=A0why=A0this=A0error=A0is=A0occuring=A0-=A0zo= peuser=A0does=A0not=A0have write permissions in the instance directory. I wonder how is this issue resolved - does one change the group ownership of the entire zope tree to a new group (say zopeusers) and add zopeuser to that group, or what ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 08:52:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC8316A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0368843D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2J8qsb13802 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:52:44 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:52:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 3:45 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > > Exchange is the best choice for intra-organizational e-mail on > relatively homogenous internal networks. The many features of Exchange > provide a great many relevant and useful advantages in this type of > environment. > Not really true unless you do an apples to oranges comparison. Exchange has lots of benefits against a simple Sendmail+popper UNIX mailserver. However, a fully tricked-out UNIX mail server can be configured to have just as many additional 'advantages' that an Exchange server has. Exchange is popular simply because many corporations bought into NT4, and 2000 server, and were looking for a way to use their existing file and print servers to handle e-mail. Buying Exchange was seen as a cheaper way to get a mailserver than to go out and setup a new server running UNIX. And keep in mind that the only serious coompetitor in Windows mailserver server software was Netscape and we know what happened to them. > For heterogenous networks and ISPs, Exchange is a poor choice, because > most users won't be able to profit from it, and because it is very > difficult to implement when many machines in a network are non-Windows > (and the Exchange servers themselves _must_ run Windows). > Not true any longer. The latest Exchange versions have good support for non-Windows systems. However Exchange makes a poor choice for ISP's because ISP's deal in a far higher volume of e-mail and of mailboxes than Exchange server is designed for. Even the smallest ISP's can easily do a thousand mailboxes, and a thousand mailboxes is considered a pretty large Enterprise installation for an Exchange server. (by everybody other than Microsoft's marketing departments, of course) Licensing for the volumes of clients that ISP's run is cost-prohibitive espically considering so many ISPs are giving out mailboxes for free. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:03:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B30516A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:03:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9F43D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCZrY-00089G-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:16 +0100 Received: from [84.151.239.144] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCZrX-00082g-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:15 +0100 Message-ID: <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:03:16 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:03:17 -0000 Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or less, open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange as my primary mail server. But its functionality for syncinig calenders, documents and so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" way of dealing with my situation here. I have to admit, that I never used a windows server, and thought it should be fairly easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the docs, which tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD solution must be found to get the job done. thx again for all your advice Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B76416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:12:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB95243D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:12:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2J9Ceb13871; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:12:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050318154357.Q1533@pukruppa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "\"Marco Greene \(ML\)\"" Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:12:39 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa [mailto:root@pukruppa.net] > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Jerry McAllister; "Marco Greene (ML)"; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) > So beastie stands for freedom, democracy, pursuit of happiness > and a great operating system for everyone? > No. Beastie stands for UNIX. If you want UNIX to stand for freedom, democracy, and the pursuit of happiness, then go for it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:14:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF06D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D7343D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2J9Eqb13884; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry McAllister" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:14:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200503181446.j2IEkrm08499@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "\"\"Marco Greene \(ML\)\"\"" Subject: RE: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu] > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Jerry McAllister; ""Marco Greene (ML)""; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) > > The status quo is that not many people care. Not true, based on the heavy response on this issue on the mailing lists every time it comes up. > The ultra-pro-beastie movement can destroy itself just like the other > side by being so strident that they offend the status quo and majority > and incite a dump-it movement just to show they won't be abused by > either religious fringe - since the ultra-pro-beastie group seems to > be the loudest and most narrowly beamed one at the moment. > Uh, huh, and pigs can fly if you put wings on 'em. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:16:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E485216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:16:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC1B43D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:16:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F2E311C000A7 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:16:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C24841C000A4 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:16:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050319091608796.C24841C000A4@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:16:08 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:16:11 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Not really true unless you do an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing Exchange to groupware products _is_ largely an apples-to-oranges comparison. Despite what Microsoft says, Exchange is essentially a messaging system--an e-mail server. It does that very well--much better than other "groupware" products that offer e-mail as only one of their features. Exchange isn't much use for other things. Given that most large organizations really need e-mail more than anything else, though, Exchange is a good choice. > Exchange has lots of benefits against a simple Sendmail+popper UNIX > mailserver. However, a fully tricked-out UNIX mail server can be > configured to have just as many additional 'advantages' that an > Exchange server has. "Tricking-out" a UNIX server just to avoid using Exchange may not be a wise course of action for an enterprise. I'd be interested in knowing, point-by-point, exactly how a UNIX solution would provide every feature provided by Exchange. > Exchange is popular simply because many corporations bought into > NT4, and 2000 server, and were looking for a way to use their existing > file and print servers to handle e-mail. Exchange is also popular because it's a really good e-mail system for the enterprise--the best around, in fact. > Buying Exchange was seen as a cheaper way to get a mailserver than to > go out and setup a new server running UNIX. Exchange has a much better feature set than any UNIX solution, and that is a major selling point. Most organizations already realize that Exchange needs dedicated servers for anything more than a trivial load, since dedicated servers are not unique to the Windows environment. > And keep in mind that the only serious coompetitor in Windows > mailserver server software was Netscape and we know what happened to > them. Netscape's product was garbage, and it was never a serious competitor. > Not true any longer. The latest Exchange versions have good support for > non-Windows systems. Exchange servers have to be Windows servers. There has been support for _clients_ on other platforms for a long time, but Exchange works best in a mostly-Windows environment ... at least if an enterprise wants to use all the Exchange features (which it should, if it's going to pay for Exchange). > However Exchange makes a poor choice for ISP's because ISP's deal in a > far higher volume of e-mail and of mailboxes than Exchange server is > designed for. Even the smallest ISP's can easily do a thousand > mailboxes, and a thousand mailboxes is considered a pretty large > Enterprise installation for an Exchange server. I've never considered a thousand mailboxes to be a large installation. Exchange can handle a hundred times that without too much trouble, given enough hardware. Exchange is extremely bloated compared to ISP-style solutions, but for enterprises that want the Exchange feature set, it's a good trade. > Licensing for the volumes of clients that ISP's run is > cost-prohibitive espically considering so many ISPs are giving out > mailboxes for free. That is another problem with Exchange for ISPs, although it's due mostly to the obstinacy of the marketing departments at Microsoft, and not due to any technical constraints. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56BA16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76CA343D5A for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pmb379@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2005 09:19:22 -0000 Received: from pD95137B5.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.2.64]) [217.81.55.181] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 10:19:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #15363020 Message-ID: <423BEE99.3030002@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:19:21 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peer_B=F6hm?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423B9296.7040700@sv-bg.com> In-Reply-To: <423B9296.7040700@sv-bg.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Question: USB block dev, Olympus Camedia digital camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:24 -0000 Hello everyone, I am new to BSD-style operating systems, and currently reading about and seriously considering a migration from Linux to free BSD on my home machine. Before I do that, I would like to make sure (as far as possible) that my critical applications will continue to work, one way or the other. It seems that the Olympus Camedia (C-1) digital camera does have some quirks that require a cludge for the kernel, so it can be mounted as a block dev for my Linux kernel version, although I hear that newer kernels do support that quirk out of the box. I was wondering, whether anyone here is using such a camera under freeBSD, and can tell me whether it can be mounted under 5.3 without such a hack. Thanks in advance, Peer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:19:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE65D16A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9921E43D54 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BEAA31C0008D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:19:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 849991C00083 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:19:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050319091955543.849991C00083@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:19:55 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:19:57 -0000 Christian Tischler writes: > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or less, > open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange as my primary > mail server. But its functionality for syncinig calenders, documents and > so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" way of dealing with my situation > here. I have to admit, that I never used a windows server, and thought > it should be fairly easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the > docs, which tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD > solution must be found to get the job done. If you are running a large organization and you need the type of functionality Exchange provides, Exchange is still likely to be the best choice. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for. Conversely, though, if you aren't going to use all the advanced features it provides, you're throwing money out the window if you buy it. The complexity also implies lots and lots of high-performance hardware and a substantial load on sysadmins, too (actually, if you have Exchange, you should have one or more dedicated mail administrators--the workload tends to be too much for sysadmins, once you are using all the product's features). Note that Exchange is strongly contraindicated in networked environments with low-speed connections between nodes (anything less than 1 Mbps these days, I'd say). Even client connections need to be really fast if the clients are using the full feature set. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 09:38:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D38F16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:38:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6899043D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:38:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A301C1C00095 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:38:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D5DE1C0008F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:38:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050319093813513.7D5DE1C0008F@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:38:13 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Serious issue with SATA disks again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:38:15 -0000 I'm still getting errors like this: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=5601695 ad10: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=4848803 ad10: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=5618815 ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=4848959 ad10: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad10: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4472607 ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=4860959 ad10: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out ad10: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4861087 ad10: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4861695 Yesterday, for the first time, the system crashed (ungracefully) after some of these errors occurred, and I had to reset the system manually; fsck had to correct errors after boot. I need to know what is causing these problems. They have been reported for a year by various people on various configurations (different motherboards and chipsets). I've seen lots of complaints and reports, but no solutions. It's not hardware, so don't bother suggesting that unless you can _prove_ that the OS is eliminated from consideration. Doesn't anyone actually know how FreeBSD works? Someone wrote the code that prints the above cryptic messages. What do they mean, _exactly_? These errors occur most often while I'm running a Perl program (awstats) to analyse web logs. That may explain why the LBAs seem to be in the same region. ad10 contains /tmp and /var; ad12 (which doesn't seem to show the error messages) contains /usr. The root and swap file are on a different drive entirely. I'm beginning to get the impression that support for disks is rather weak in FreeBSD 5.x. I have mysterious SCSI errors on one machine that nobody seems to have any clue about, and mysterious SATA errors on another machine that nobody seems to have any clue about. I can't really brag about the reliability or uptime of the OS if it crashes once a week due to unresolved bugs in disk-handling code. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 10:25:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1316A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:25:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E3A43D58 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:25:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so437817rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:25:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YG+QolbU+C7vF9D8tezkfGbwE7d6GdWjE5AF3Ho332+A0zCWGHE7JjqVC5bPX43usbyWbBJlvAoOJ5CgJvLzvuYQE2DADwUHngASIfaCpvnguY9vRj1jBcdT6tiNpJaBIVLUg83qbICbuF6Yyv5ZMVSFyEKzb3gDYXGoJuo0dV8= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3188224rnd; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:25:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:25:25 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gnome cpu net hd mem applet resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:25:27 -0000 Does the gnome cpu net hd mem applet take allot of resources to show on your desktop ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 10:36:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188616A4D4 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:36:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D7D43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: from kirk.dlee.org ([69.143.16.144]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005031910365201500ej5oae>; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:36:53 +0000 Received: from kirk.dlee.org (dgl@localhost.dlee.org [127.0.0.1]) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2JAapkl081327 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:36:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.dlee.org) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.dlee.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2JAao7r081326 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:36:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:36:49 -0500 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050319103648.GW4670@kirk.dlee.org> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Bartimaeus Group User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: How to set environment variable for a port daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:36:59 -0000 SpamAssassin now recommends an environment variable setting like "export LANG=en_US" be made when unicode support is not needed, for performance reasons, as of the migration to Perl 5.8, which uses unicode by default at some expense to SpamAssassin's performance. I'm trying to figure out the best way to make that setting apply to spamd, the SpamAssassin daemon. From my read of docs and my scan of /usr/local/etc/rc.subr, I don't think throwing the setting into spamd_flags in /etc/rc.conf will work; that would look like this: spamd_flags="LANG=en_US -c -d -m 3 -r /var/run/spamd.pid" but I'm hoping either I'm wrong or there's a similarly easy solution. Reason for interest: I'm running SpamAssassin on an old P166, and as of my latest port upgrade, its performance dropped dramatically, and it actually began interfering with day-to-day activities on this old box. I'm hoping the unicode evasion will help with that, though I don't know how likely this is. Please Cc replies to me. Thanks much for any advice. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is not in vain." --Helen Keller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 10:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A616A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:44:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C9FF43D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2005 10:44:00 -0000 Received: from pD9E28111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) [217.226.129.17] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 11:44:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Ivz2CK6pD3wRXhjQRrj5" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:43:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1111229039.541.2.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: gnome cpu net hd mem applet resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:44:03 -0000 --=-Ivz2CK6pD3wRXhjQRrj5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 11:25 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Does the gnome cpu net hd mem applet take allot of resources to show > on your desktop ? Why do you not just test it yourself? All you need to do is to run 'top' in a terminal window. --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-Ivz2CK6pD3wRXhjQRrj5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCPAJvaRsDctJfzIERAjxlAJ9z5/BAa18PyWbuTj918yqgm3YCeACeKgiJ +utnPKI47I5iCboEKXYC1aE= =yVIV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Ivz2CK6pD3wRXhjQRrj5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 11:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF7F16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:22:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A3DC43D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 18019 invoked by uid 0); 19 Mar 2005 11:22:32 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 11:22:32 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 349D367E5; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:22:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:22:31 -0600 From: David Kelly To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050319112231.GA35477@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Serious issue with SATA disks again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:22:35 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 10:38:13AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > I need to know what is causing these problems. They have been reported > for a year by various people on various configurations (different > motherboards and chipsets). I've seen lots of complaints and reports, > but no solutions. It's not hardware, so don't bother suggesting that > unless you can _prove_ that the OS is eliminated from consideration. Its impossible to _prove_ the software is _not_ at fault just as its impossible to prove the hardware is not at fault. When software works for others but not on your hardware then one can only conclude there is _something_ about your hardware. With seemingly random timeouts such as you are seeing I would suspect the SATA cable. SATA runs gigabits/sec and could be very sensitive. Try a different cable from another source. Also run the HD manufacturer's test utility. This week a bad block appeared on one of my SATA drives after 4,000 hours of runtime. Downloaded a bootable ISO from Hitachi Global Storage which booted into DOS, found and remapped my bad block. "smartctl" from ports was also quite useful at reading the error log maintained by the HD firmware. Interesting reading, such as my drive temperature was 35, lifetime max/min was 19/45 (Celsius). > Doesn't anyone actually know how FreeBSD works? Someone wrote the code > that prints the above cryptic messages. What do they mean, _exactly_? It means the driver asked the HD to fill a buffer, but it didn't complete the task within alloted time. Either the drive didn't begin, or data was lost and fell short. > I'm beginning to get the impression that support for disks is rather > weak in FreeBSD 5.x. I have mysterious SCSI errors on one machine that > nobody seems to have any clue about, and mysterious SATA errors on > another machine that nobody seems to have any clue about. I can't > really brag about the reliability or uptime of the OS if it crashes once > a week due to unresolved bugs in disk-handling code. A few years ago one of my then-new machines could not write a floppy in FreeBSD but could in NT4. Tried lots of things, also got the attention of the floppy driver maintainer. A few weeks later got the idea to "Reset to Defaults" in the BIOS. Then reset the few specific things I needed back the way they were. Magic. There was something undocumented being set by BIOS at boot that didn't bother NT. One of my BIOS settings above was to hold PCI back to version 2.0 or 2.1 vs 2.1 or 2.2. Learned on of my PCI cards didn't like something about the new PCI spec and that the system was not smart enough to know. More recently, in 5.2.1, I had no problems with a parallel ATA drive with Hyperthreading enabled on my P4. No problems running sysinstall to prep the new SATA drives. But the SATA drives locked the kernel solid moments after first use. Disabled HT and all was fine. Something about HT and the new Geom framework used for SATA (but not for PATA, at least then) didn't work. Until a block went bad on one drive there hasn't been a drive problem in 4,000+ hours. I only reboot for power failures and updates. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 11:51:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEE316A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:51:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E9D43D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:51:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: by ene.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 127) id 9696A11482; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:51:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from ene.asda.gr (lefty.ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.162]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits))OK)) by ene.asda.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D19511462 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:51:11 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <423C1239.E2278DAB@ene.asda.gr> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:51:21 +0200 From: Lefteris Tsintjelis Organization: ASDA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on ene.asda.gr Subject: unknown but working PNP devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:51:15 -0000 Why are the last messages showing eventhough ports seem to be detected and working fine? Is there a way to disable/fix those "unknown" devices? PC is a notebook (with APM/PnP only, ACPI is disabled). Part of kernel: #device apic # I/O APIC device apm device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports Part of dmesg (verbose mode): Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 19 01:33:26 EET 2005 root@laptop:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc07a1000. Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193227 Hz ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: EPP SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio2: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio2 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 4 on isa0 sio2: type 16550A sbc0: at port 0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 5,1 on isa0 sbc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] unknown: failed to probe at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: at port 0x60 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (irq) unknown: at irq 12 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: at port 0x3f8-0x3ff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: at port 0x3e8-0x3ef on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5 on isa0 unknown: failed to probe at port 0x250-0x257 on isa0 unknown: failed to probe at port 0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 5,1 on isa0 unknown: failed to probe at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 12:28:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753D16A4CE; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44E543D1D; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd3f-00021b-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 Received: from [84.151.239.144] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd3f-0000bd-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Christian Tischler writes: > > > >>Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or less, >>open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange as my primary >>mail server. But its functionality for syncinig calenders, documents and >>so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" way of dealing with my situation >>here. I have to admit, that I never used a windows server, and thought >>it should be fairly easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the >>docs, which tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD >>solution must be found to get the job done. >> >> > >If you are running a large organization and you need the type of >functionality Exchange provides, Exchange is still likely to be the best >choice. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for. Conversely, >though, if you aren't going to use all the advanced features it >provides, you're throwing money out the window if you buy it. > >The complexity also implies lots and lots of high-performance hardware >and a substantial load on sysadmins, too (actually, if you have >Exchange, you should have one or more dedicated mail administrators--the >workload tends to be too much for sysadmins, once you are using all the >product's features). > >Note that Exchange is strongly contraindicated in networked environments >with low-speed connections between nodes (anything less than 1 Mbps >these days, I'd say). Even client connections need to be really fast if >the clients are using the full feature set. > > > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not an consideration. The first set up will not occur in an productive environment. Currently we are trying to find a solution that will fit our future demands. I am very grateful for every bit of information I can get my hands on. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 12:28:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753D16A4CE; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44E543D1D; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.179] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd3f-00021b-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 Received: from [84.151.239.144] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd3f-0000bd-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:27:59 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@FreeBSD.org References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:28:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Christian Tischler writes: > > > >>Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or less, >>open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange as my primary >>mail server. But its functionality for syncinig calenders, documents and >>so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" way of dealing with my situation >>here. I have to admit, that I never used a windows server, and thought >>it should be fairly easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the >>docs, which tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD >>solution must be found to get the job done. >> >> > >If you are running a large organization and you need the type of >functionality Exchange provides, Exchange is still likely to be the best >choice. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for. Conversely, >though, if you aren't going to use all the advanced features it >provides, you're throwing money out the window if you buy it. > >The complexity also implies lots and lots of high-performance hardware >and a substantial load on sysadmins, too (actually, if you have >Exchange, you should have one or more dedicated mail administrators--the >workload tends to be too much for sysadmins, once you are using all the >product's features). > >Note that Exchange is strongly contraindicated in networked environments >with low-speed connections between nodes (anything less than 1 Mbps >these days, I'd say). Even client connections need to be really fast if >the clients are using the full feature set. > > > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not an consideration. The first set up will not occur in an productive environment. Currently we are trying to find a solution that will fit our future demands. I am very grateful for every bit of information I can get my hands on. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 12:32:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EE716A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6298943D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd8L-0003X9-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:32:49 +0100 Received: from [84.151.239.144] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCd8L-0000qw-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:32:49 +0100 Message-ID: <423C1BF1.3000200@myunix.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:32:49 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost@cordula.ws, questions@FreeBSD.org References: <423A9D8D.4030409@myunix.net> <20050318102450.GA54209@fw.farid-hajji.net> <20050318142056.Q2589@maren.thelosingend.net> <20050318201030.GB56856@fw.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20050318201030.GB56856@fw.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: HDD idle shutdown. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:54 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: >On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 02:22:29PM +0100, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > >>* cpghost@cordula.ws [2005-03-18 11:24 +0100] >> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:21:17AM +0100, Christian Tischler wrote: >>> > I wondered whether there is an option to shut down an idle HDD until it >>> > is needed again? >>> > I am using FreeBSD 5.x. >>> >>> /usr/ports/sysutils/ataidle >>> >>> >>Note that, while this indeed will spin down your hdd, the system will most >>likely spin it up again after a short period of time, unless you modify >>some settings. Especially the cron system may cause your hdd to spin up >>every once in a while. >> >> > >Yes, that's true. Watch out for activity in /var/log etc. >I'm using ataidle on "diskless" workstations with attached >hdd (now if that's not an oxymoron!). Most activities happen >on the NFS mounted system partitions, and the hdd is only there >for backup purposes and for file systems that are not always in >use (like /home and so). Running ataidle on such workstations >proves to be very effective. > > > >>Svein Halvor >> >> > >-cpghost. > > > Actually this is for my home server which provides nfs/samba shares. The idle process is only for the data only drives. thx Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 12:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B3E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C7843D46 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DCdRD-000Jry-Lg; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 Received: from 24.98.86.57 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3589.24.98.86.57.1111236739.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: "Christian Tischler" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:52:25 -0000 One option is to use communigate. It allegedly works with the outlook mapi client and should work on freebsd. http://www.stalker.com/content/solutions.htm I've heard from a lot of people that swear by it, particularly in the ISP space. Jerry > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or less, > open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange as my primary > mail server. But its functionality for syncinig calenders, documents and > so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" way of dealing with my situation > here. I have to admit, that I never used a windows server, and thought > it should be fairly easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the > docs, which tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD > solution must be found to get the job done. > > thx again for all your advice > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 13:17:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7286E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:17:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A44343D4C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:17:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so471623rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:17:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WdcRhHpXBr+ix+FDgqnXi3L+C0pop7vwMFRHlkakd6Pfab2p6vlyhFOPHgUAEhjVM6OH4l4Ll2082/G4WQNT9Tg2T3nGtshV7wzGaPkt2dZXGX7f7tFzc/ttNBMr6s9L2aPD6xulXkDgAvjsexsQP3aV2pFK5bPXYAT0nJtQDOA= Received: by 10.38.12.26 with SMTP id 26mr3274216rnl; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:17:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:17:50 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1111229039.541.2.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1111229039.541.2.camel@p4-3200.local> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome cpu net hd mem applet resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:17:51 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:43:59 +0100, cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 11:25 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Does the gnome cpu net hd mem applet take allot of resources to show > > on your desktop ? > > Why do you not just test it yourself? All you need to do is to run 'top' > in a terminal window. Top tells me nobody is doing anything except x :) So i guess the answer is none From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 13:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4DD16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F3B43D5D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so415890rna for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:23:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jPodFBjlA0aaJ7uovaths3figM4DpmmvnQvN5hXcdctTU5hcwZoOQq7TR0Xj4HOmeamstkQRQnsqg8irgDz+YTFiX0vgwjVzurX/l3fRowL4a2sRSRfdUgcbJm/GVbSoLYXQJ31ILK5s+/cE+KQowDJn3buYjpMkkLJwalvwQwk= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr3275198rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:23:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:23:10 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: nNCL:registering deferred (0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:23:11 -0000 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:13:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I wanted to reinstall mozilla but this time with the mail thingie enabled. > I did make config make deinstall make reinstall but it get stuck doing > nothing at the end saying nNCL:registering deferred (0) > Any body knows how to fix this ? The google bowl tels me this http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2004-September/008360.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 13:29:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7099716A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (spoon.beta.com [199.165.180.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5873943D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JDTi9J091703 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:29:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200503191329.j2JDTi9J091703@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:29:44 -0500 From: "Brian J. McGovern" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on spoon.beta.com Subject: Recommendations for "All-in-One" device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:54 -0000 I'm currently in the market for an "All-in-One" device for the home network, mostly for the fax functionality (it'll be replacing an Canon scanner and Okidata 810e laser printer). Before anyone suggests their favorite FreeBSD Fax modem/app, I'll let it be known that I've been told that the expectation is that we'll have a "normal" looking/working fax machine for the house ;) I've searched the mailing lists for "All-in-One", and tried searches on printers, scanners, copiers, and faxes individually with no real good hits. I'm somewhat curious about the HPs, but wanted to get people's experiences with different devices, and what works/doesn't work with FreeBSD. -B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 14:14:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CAE16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:14:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E7D43D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:14:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447D75E85; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20678-10; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323BF5DBB; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:14:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <423C3436.2030501@mac.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:16:22 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" References: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> In-Reply-To: <423B8314.1000606@confabulator.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to avoid forkbomb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:14:58 -0000 Ryan J. Cavicchioni wrote: > Am I looking at the correct values? Yes. > Which is the actual process limit? The lower number, 3632, is the max processes permitted per user. > What would you recommend that I set it to in order to have my machine > shrug off the fork bomb sooner? Probably around 300. > What would be a good process limit for a LAMP webserver? The # of Apache children you want to run + 50 or so... > How would I set the process limits? You could change login.conf (be sure to run "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf"), or you could change the limits seen all processes by changing /etc/profile, or for specific user accounts by changing that user's startup scripts: # Set reasonable soft process limits. ulimit -Sc 100000 ulimit -Sd 512000 ulimit -Ss 65536 ulimit -Sn 512 ulimit -Su 256 -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 14:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881A916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F86C43D5A for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from munn@umd.edu) Received: from [192.168.123.55] (pcp0010726446pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net[69.243.51.18]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20050319142758014004seaie>; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:27:58 +0000 Message-ID: <423C36ED.4060207@umd.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:27:57 -0500 From: Robert Munn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: file system type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:27:59 -0000 Is there any way of detecting the type of file system on a disk, specifically UFS2 or UFS1? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 14:51:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F0C16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:51:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFBD43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:51:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D04B4AFAE; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:51:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:51:46 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Robert Munn Message-ID: <20050319145146.GA21612@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <423C36ED.4060207@umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C36ED.4060207@umd.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:51:16 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 09:27:57AM -0500, Robert Munn wrote: > Is there any way of detecting the type of file system on a disk, > specifically UFS2 or UFS1? If all you need to know is wether a UFS file system is UFS1 or UFS2, you could use /sbin/dumpfs -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 14:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15AF16A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E89643D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:57:51 -0600 Message-ID: <423C3D23.4090600@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:54:27 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Munn References: <423C36ED.4060207@umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <423C36ED.4060207@umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2005 14:57:51.0884 (UTC) FILETIME=[061664C0:01C52C94] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:54:34 -0000 Robert Munn wrote: > Is there any way of detecting the type of file system on a disk, > specifically UFS2 or UFS1? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > You mean as an operator, or as a programmer? Obviously, as an operator, mount(8) gives you this information after a brief visual parsing. I'm not a C programmer, but a quick lookup with apropos(1) yields the following: getvfsbyname(3) - get information about a file system HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 14:58:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C0F16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:58:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88A043D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:58:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:02:11 -0600 Message-ID: <423C3E2A.8040406@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:58:50 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jrrelay@juno.com References: <20050318.202259.-854787.0.jrrelay@juno.com> In-Reply-To: <20050318.202259.-854787.0.jrrelay@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2005 15:02:16.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[A40C7930:01C52C94] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do i need to reinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:58:58 -0000 jrrelay@juno.com wrote: >i recently bought a new and larger hard drive for my computer. i put it >the machine as '/dev/ad3'. while educating myself about this new drive, >i installed freebsd 5.3 on one of the slices. i am ready to eliminate >the old 'ad0' and want to move the new drive so it will become >'/dev/ad0'. will BSD operate in its new location without any changes to >the configuration files? perhaps '/etc/fstab', and what else? or should >i just reinstall freebsd after i have reconfigured the machine? >jrrelay@juno.com > > Well, a reinstall would certainly work, but it's so "Windozy" ;-) What does /etc/fstab look like now? And maybe what does `mount` say? One thing is certain .... the new drive would need the FreeBSD MBR (or another boot loader) at the very least; you didn't mention where you were booting from, (but I assume from the new disk?) Worst case scenario: you get to learn a lot about the bootstrap process. IIRC, that's currently chapter 12 in the Handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook). Good advice: backup personal data, regardless of what you choose to do.... Sorry I can't give you more help, but as a relative newb myself, I'll have to leave the real answers to the "real men" out there. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 15:08:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650B916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:08:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D943543D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:08:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:11:28 -0600 Message-ID: <423C4057.8030707@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:08:07 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Lee References: <20050319103648.GW4670@kirk.dlee.org> In-Reply-To: <20050319103648.GW4670@kirk.dlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2005 15:11:28.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED078750:01C52C95] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set environment variable for a port daemon? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:08:10 -0000 Doug Lee wrote: >SpamAssassin now recommends an environment variable setting like >"export LANG=en_US" be made when unicode support is not needed, for >performance reasons, as of the migration to Perl 5.8, which uses >unicode by default at some expense to SpamAssassin's performance. I'm >trying to figure out the best way to make that setting apply to spamd, >the SpamAssassin daemon. From my read of docs and my scan of >/usr/local/etc/rc.subr, I don't think throwing the setting into >spamd_flags in /etc/rc.conf will work; that would look like this: > >spamd_flags="LANG=en_US -c -d -m 3 -r /var/run/spamd.pid" > >but I'm hoping either I'm wrong or there's a similarly easy solution. > >Reason for interest: I'm running SpamAssassin on an old P166, and as >of my latest port upgrade, its performance dropped dramatically, and >it actually began interfering with day-to-day activities on this old >box. I'm hoping the unicode evasion will help with that, though I >don't know how likely this is. > > Hmm, I'm not into rc scripts much, a dunno about the rc.conf flags question. An alternative, nasty hack/kluge that comes to mind might be to disable the rc script and start spamd from cron with the "@reboot" target, where you could specify your environment vars on the command line I dunno if that might mess stuff up, in terms of either startup order nor what would happen at shutdown, though. Like I said, it's kind of a nasty hack. But I'm pretty good at those, it seems. Good luck. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 15:37:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D316A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE44E43D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfreak@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so180572rny for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:37:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QzpVzClS9l64oMyqyaDoixiLWGGlm5qpbqGL4TPHlfsC3FVpYSefAW1E0I73JnyseFAMfviWrLMVIzrC79G8y/2x6FnfVzu34dvQl/VidaebebXTu53I0B6CR1sKIGNjCD1sAIO4OQBoCWoXT8IIU1kNEhbd/Mgw+Y2rAypGHzo= Received: by 10.38.179.66 with SMTP id b66mr1201973rnf; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.179.44 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:37:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:37:09 -0500 From: Alexander Chamandy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: Failure with php4 and libgd support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexander Chamandy List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:10 -0000 I take it noone can help me with this? On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:27:54 -0500, Alexander Chamandy wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having some problems with php4 and libgd support. I'm > running FreeBSD/i386 5.3 which was upgraded from the 4.x STABLE branch > a long time ago, but I think a portion of the upgrade may've gone > horribly wrong with regards to the compiler or include files. Most > things compile fine (userland, kernel, other applications).. but > certain things like Apache2, php (*ONLY* when it's testing libgd in > the configuration process - otherwise, without gd it compiles fine) > fail completely. I was wondering if anyone had experienced something > similiar or had any suggestions. Any help would be greatly > appreciated! Here is the config.log gd-related error messages from > php 4.3.10 with the commandline: > > ./configure --with-gd=/usr/local --with-mysql > --with-apxs=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs > > >8 *snip snip* >8 > > configure:33488: checking for gdImageString16 in -lgd > configure:33507: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 33496 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageString16(); > > int main() { > gdImageString16() > ; return 0; } > configure:33619: checking for gdImagePaletteCopy in -lgd > configure:33638: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 33627 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImagePaletteCopy(); > > int main() { > gdImagePaletteCopy() > ; return 0; } > configure:33750: checking for gdImageCreateFromPng in -lgd > configure:33769: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 33758 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateFromPng(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateFromPng() > ; return 0; } > configure:33881: checking for gdImageCreateFromGif in -lgd > configure:33900: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 33889 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateFromGif(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateFromGif() > ; return 0; } > configure:34012: checking for gdImageGif in -lgd > configure:34031: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34020 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageGif(); > > int main() { > gdImageGif() > ; return 0; } > configure:34143: checking for gdImageWBMP in -lgd > configure:34162: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34151 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageWBMP(); > > int main() { > gdImageWBMP() > ; return 0; } > > configure:34274: checking for gdImageCreateFromJpeg in -lgd > configure:34293: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34282 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateFromJpeg(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateFromJpeg() > ; return 0; } > configure:34405: checking for gdImageCreateFromXpm in -lgd > configure:34424: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34413 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateFromXpm(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateFromXpm() > ; return 0; } > configure:34536: checking for gdImageCreateFromGd2 in -lgd > configure:34555: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34544 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateFromGd2(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateFromGd2() > ; return 0; } > configure:34667: checking for gdImageCreateTrueColor in -lgd > configure:34686: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34675 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreateTrueColor(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreateTrueColor() > ; return 0; } > configure:34798: checking for gdImageSetTile in -lgd > configure:34817: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34806 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageSetTile(); > > int main() { > gdImageSetTile() > ; return 0; } > configure:34929: checking for gdImageEllipse in -lgd > configure:34948: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /var/tmp//cc2GmBUB.o(.text+0xd): In function `main': > /usr/staff/home/alex/src/php-4.3.10/configure:34944: undefined > reference to `gdImageEllipse' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 34937 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageEllipse(); > > int main() { > gdImageEllipse() > ; return 0; } > configure:35060: checking for gdImageSetBrush in -lgd > configure:35079: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35068 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageSetBrush(); > > int main() { > gdImageSetBrush() > ; return 0; } > configure:35191: checking for gdImageStringTTF in -lgd > configure:35210: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35199 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageStringTTF(); > > int main() { > gdImageStringTTF() > ; return 0; } > configure:35322: checking for gdImageStringFT in -lgd > configure:35341: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35330 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageStringFT(); > > int main() { > gdImageStringFT() > ; return 0; } > configure:35453: checking for gdImageStringFTEx in -lgd > configure:35472: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35461 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageStringFTEx(); > > int main() { > gdImageStringFTEx() > ; return 0; } > configure:35584: checking for gdImageColorClosestHWB in -lgd > configure:35603: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35592 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageColorClosestHWB(); > > int main() { > gdImageColorClosestHWB() > ; return 0; } > configure:35715: checking for gdImageColorResolve in -lgd > configure:35734: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35723 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageColorResolve(); > > int main() { > gdImageColorResolve() > ; return 0; } > configure:35846: checking for gdImageGifCtx in -lgd > configure:35865: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35854 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageGifCtx(); > > int main() { > gdImageGifCtx() > ; return 0; } > configure:35977: checking for gdCacheCreate in -lgd > configure:35996: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 35985 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdCacheCreate(); > > int main() { > gdCacheCreate() > ; return 0; } > configure:36108: checking for gdFontCacheShutdown in -lgd > configure:36127: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 36116 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdFontCacheShutdown(); > > int main() { > gdFontCacheShutdown() > ; return 0; } > configure:36239: checking for gdNewDynamicCtxEx in -lgd > configure:36258: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 36247 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdNewDynamicCtxEx(); > > int main() { > gdNewDynamicCtxEx() > ; return 0; } > configure:36327: gcc -c -g -O2 -I/usr/local/include conftest.c 1>&5 > configure: In function `main': > configure:36322: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > configure:36674: checking for gdImageCreate in -lgd > configure:36693: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd > -lgd > -lm 1>&5 > /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': > : undefined reference to `_init_tls' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' > /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' > /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' > /usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' > /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' > configure: failed program was: > #line 36682 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > /* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ > /* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 > builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ > char gdImageCreate(); > > int main() { > gdImageCreate() > ; return 0; } > > >8 *snip snip* >8 > > > -- > Best wishes, > > Alexander G. Chamandy > Webmaster > www.bsdfreak.org > Your Source For BSD News! > -- Best wishes, Alexander G. Chamandy Webmaster www.bsdfreak.org Your Source For BSD News! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 15:37:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E759116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627C943D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:40:51 -0600 Message-ID: <423C473A.2070107@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:37:30 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Curnow References: <20050319040537.57051.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050319040537.57051.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2005 15:40:51.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[07D25DE0:01C52C9A] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru: negative runtime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:37:34 -0000 Brian Curnow wrote: >Thanks for the reply. > >I saw a few other posts that talked about that >setting. My list is bit different, I have TSC, i8254 >and ACPI-safe. When I boot it picks ACPI-safe. > >I've tried the other options but they didn't seem to >make any difference. > > > How did you try them? >I did notice the the kern.timecounter.tick seems to be >wrong. When booting up the tick is reported as 10 but >the seting is 1. Unfortunately kern.timecounter.tick >is read only. > >Any other ideas? > > > In this message: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-November/009417.html someone suggests rebuilding the kernel. That was on a box with an AMD K6 type CPU. IIRC, I fixed these issues by running timecounter as i8254. I'm sure that could be set in /etc/sysctl.conf; I don't know if it could be in /boot/loader.conf or not; however, the earlier it was done, sounds like it might be better. I'm sure you also noted that some folks did a "work around" by booting with ACPI disabled. That could definitely be set in loader.conf, but it doesn't sound ideal. However, depending on your motherboard, it might be about the only way to do this, unless you can find and patch the underlying code issue, (if indeed there is one ... IIRC, it just that the chips are a little "buggy", the developers claim), and besides, we newbs generally aren't that proficient in C ;-) As you might guess, we're way over my head now. I hope you can get it going to suit you .... Good luck, Kevin Kinsey >--- Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > >>Brian Curnow wrote: >> >> >> >>> <>I am new to BSD and just downloaded BSD 5.3-RELEASE. >> >>> <>I saw a few other posts on this issue but I didn't see any solutions. >> >>> <> >>> I am getting excessive calcru: negative runtime >>> messages in the syslog (and the console). >>> >>> According to the FAQ the solution is to use sysctl and >> >>> <>set kern.timecounter.method=1, however this param does >> >>>not exist in 5.3. >>> >>>Is there a solution to this issue? >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Brian Curnow >>> >>> >>> >>> >>$sysctl -a | grep timeco >>kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0 >>kern.timecounter.nbinuptime: 4005177648 >>kern.timecounter.nnanouptime: 0 >>kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 1108115 >>kern.timecounter.nbintime: 1813993971 >>kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 207315298 >>kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 1606545859 >>kern.timecounter.ngetbinuptime: 0 >>kern.timecounter.ngetnanouptime: 115004537 >>kern.timecounter.ngetmicrouptime: 3989727579 >>kern.timecounter.ngetbintime: 0 >>kern.timecounter.ngetnanotime: 526 >>kern.timecounter.ngetmicrotime: 201307619 >>kern.timecounter.nsetclock: 7 >>kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast >>kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(800) ACPI-fast(1000) >>i8254(0) dummy(-1000000) >>kern.timecounter.tick: 1 >> >>I'm not the expert here, but I think I've >>experience. >> >>Examine the options your system has for "kern.timecounter.choice" >>(you can see above how I did it) and experiment until you find (if you >>find) a setting that seems to fix the problem. >> >>Certain chipsets seem to have issues, but I couldn't say which ones. >>I have, however, fixed a couple of boxes by picking a different value >>for this sysctl. >> >>It's likely that the FAQ hasn't yet been completely transformed >>into a "post-5.3-is-now-stable" format, since people were warned >>that 5.0-5.2 weren't "production releases". If you find that this >>helps you, write back and I'll try sometime Real Soon Now(tm) >>to send a patch to the FDP folks to address that issue.... >> >>HTH, >> >>Kevin Kinsey >> >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 15:46:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7477C16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:46:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C5643D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:46:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JFkGNv040907; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j2JFkFj1040904; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: jrrelay@juno.com In-Reply-To: <20050318.202259.-854787.0.jrrelay@juno.com> Message-ID: <20050319080539.I32774@wonkity.com> References: <20050318.202259.-854787.0.jrrelay@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:46:16 -0700 (MST) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do i need to reinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:46:17 -0000 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 jrrelay@juno.com wrote: > i recently bought a new and larger hard drive for my computer. i put it > the machine as '/dev/ad3'. while educating myself about this new drive, > i installed freebsd 5.3 on one of the slices. i am ready to eliminate > the old 'ad0' and want to move the new drive so it will become > '/dev/ad0'. will BSD operate in its new location without any changes to > the configuration files? perhaps '/etc/fstab', and what else? or should > i just reinstall freebsd after i have reconfigured the machine? Definitely change ad3 to ad0 in fstab before you shut down and move the drive. Kevin's right in suggesting you may need to add an MBR or boot loader. See the man pages for boot0cfg for the menu loader, or fdisk for the plain, non-menu-just-boot-now version. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 16:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEFC16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 535C643D58 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:22:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryan@confabulator.net) Received: (qmail 35217 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2005 16:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.83?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Mar 2005 16:22:49 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 209.197.24.227 Message-ID: <423C526F.1070909@confabulator.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:25:19 -0600 From: "Ryan J. Cavicchioni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Failure with php4 and libgd support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:22:51 -0000 Hi Alexander, PHP actually comes with libgd bundled now. Just use --with-gd (but you may not even have to do that). You do not need the external library. Alexander Chamandy wrote: >I take it noone can help me with this? > > >On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:27:54 -0500, Alexander Chamandy > wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >> I'm having some problems with php4 and libgd support. I'm >>running FreeBSD/i386 5.3 which was upgraded from the 4.x STABLE branch >>a long time ago, but I think a portion of the upgrade may've gone >>horribly wrong with regards to the compiler or include files. Most >>things compile fine (userland, kernel, other applications).. but >>certain things like Apache2, php (*ONLY* when it's testing libgd in >>the configuration process - otherwise, without gd it compiles fine) >>fail completely. I was wondering if anyone had experienced something >>similiar or had any suggestions. Any help would be greatly >>appreciated! Here is the config.log gd-related error messages from >>php 4.3.10 with the commandline: >> >>./configure --with-gd=/usr/local --with-mysql >>--with-apxs=/usr/local/apache/bin/apxs >> >> >> >>>8 *snip snip* >8 >>> >>> >>configure:33488: checking for gdImageString16 in -lgd >>configure:33507: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 33496 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageString16(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageString16() >>; return 0; } >>configure:33619: checking for gdImagePaletteCopy in -lgd >>configure:33638: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 33627 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImagePaletteCopy(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImagePaletteCopy() >>; return 0; } >>configure:33750: checking for gdImageCreateFromPng in -lgd >>configure:33769: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 33758 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateFromPng(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateFromPng() >>; return 0; } >>configure:33881: checking for gdImageCreateFromGif in -lgd >>configure:33900: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 33889 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateFromGif(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateFromGif() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34012: checking for gdImageGif in -lgd >>configure:34031: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34020 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageGif(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageGif() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34143: checking for gdImageWBMP in -lgd >>configure:34162: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34151 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageWBMP(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageWBMP() >>; return 0; } >> >>configure:34274: checking for gdImageCreateFromJpeg in -lgd >>configure:34293: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34282 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateFromJpeg(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateFromJpeg() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34405: checking for gdImageCreateFromXpm in -lgd >>configure:34424: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34413 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateFromXpm(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateFromXpm() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34536: checking for gdImageCreateFromGd2 in -lgd >>configure:34555: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34544 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateFromGd2(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateFromGd2() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34667: checking for gdImageCreateTrueColor in -lgd >>configure:34686: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34675 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreateTrueColor(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreateTrueColor() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34798: checking for gdImageSetTile in -lgd >>configure:34817: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34806 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageSetTile(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageSetTile() >>; return 0; } >>configure:34929: checking for gdImageEllipse in -lgd >>configure:34948: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/var/tmp//cc2GmBUB.o(.text+0xd): In function `main': >>/usr/staff/home/alex/src/php-4.3.10/configure:34944: undefined >>reference to `gdImageEllipse' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 34937 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageEllipse(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageEllipse() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35060: checking for gdImageSetBrush in -lgd >>configure:35079: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35068 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageSetBrush(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageSetBrush() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35191: checking for gdImageStringTTF in -lgd >>configure:35210: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35199 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageStringTTF(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageStringTTF() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35322: checking for gdImageStringFT in -lgd >>configure:35341: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35330 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageStringFT(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageStringFT() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35453: checking for gdImageStringFTEx in -lgd >>configure:35472: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35461 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageStringFTEx(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageStringFTEx() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35584: checking for gdImageColorClosestHWB in -lgd >>configure:35603: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35592 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageColorClosestHWB(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageColorClosestHWB() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35715: checking for gdImageColorResolve in -lgd >>configure:35734: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35723 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageColorResolve(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageColorResolve() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35846: checking for gdImageGifCtx in -lgd >>configure:35865: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35854 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageGifCtx(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageGifCtx() >>; return 0; } >>configure:35977: checking for gdCacheCreate in -lgd >>configure:35996: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 35985 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdCacheCreate(); >> >>int main() { >>gdCacheCreate() >>; return 0; } >>configure:36108: checking for gdFontCacheShutdown in -lgd >>configure:36127: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 36116 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdFontCacheShutdown(); >> >>int main() { >>gdFontCacheShutdown() >>; return 0; } >>configure:36239: checking for gdNewDynamicCtxEx in -lgd >>configure:36258: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 36247 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdNewDynamicCtxEx(); >> >>int main() { >>gdNewDynamicCtxEx() >>; return 0; } >>configure:36327: gcc -c -g -O2 -I/usr/local/include conftest.c 1>&5 >>configure: In function `main': >>configure:36322: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast >>configure:36674: checking for gdImageCreate in -lgd >>configure:36693: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -R/usr/local/lib >>-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c -lgd >>-lgd >>-lm 1>&5 >>/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): In function `_start': >>: undefined reference to `_init_tls' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stdoutp' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `memmove' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `qsort' >>/usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `__stderrp' >>/usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5: undefined reference to `gmtime' >>/usr/local/lib/libm.so.2: undefined reference to `fputs' >>/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9: undefined reference to `fcntl' >>configure: failed program was: >>#line 36682 "configure" >>#include "confdefs.h" >>/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error. */ >>/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2 >> builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. */ >>char gdImageCreate(); >> >>int main() { >>gdImageCreate() >>; return 0; } >> >> >> >>>8 *snip snip* >8 >>> >>> >>-- >>Best wishes, >> >>Alexander G. Chamandy >>Webmaster >>www.bsdfreak.org >>Your Source For BSD News! >> >> >> > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 16:42:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A725F16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:42:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from piccollo.p6m7g8.net (c66-236-219-70.ip.panth.com [66.236.219.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F6C43D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:42:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (pcp09579574pcs.rtchrd01.md.comcast.net [68.48.16.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by piccollo.p6m7g8.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2JGgQob096156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <423C567A.1040102@p6m7g8.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:34 -0500 From: "Philip M. Golllucci" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NFS and file locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:42:34 -0000 Hi all, I've got a FreeBSD 6.x -current file server running NFS and I mount lots of things via NFS on other Freebsd 6.x -current servers with an NFS client. I get _lots_ of file locking issues. See below for just one example. I'm wondering, will NFSv4 fix this or switching to samba ? If not, I'd be gratefull for suggestions. Thanks in advance! vegeta# df krillin:/usr/ports 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/ports krillin:/usr/local/apps 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/local/apps krillin:/usr/src 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/src krillin:/usr/obj 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/obj krillin:/usr/home 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/home vegeta# cd /usr/ports/www/apache21/ vegeta# make [......] buildconf: Using libtool15.m4 at /usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool15.m4. Creating include/arch/unix/apr_private.h.in ... autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 Creating configure ... autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported Generating 'make' outputs ... rebuilding rpm spec file rebuilding srclib/apr-util/configure Looking for apr source in ../apr Creating include/private/apu_config.h ... autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 ./buildconf failed for apr-util -- END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci Consultant E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Phone : 301.254.5198 $Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 17:23:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FF216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0095543D53 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so543677wra for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:23:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=n+h4hWqq+SeYV5Wusj8Cd7GXQ2Pvca5bD4p1ZZ/ItM7wyK86PV5ElDbQLi60k4xA0fARQUAIiRi9AVpYdwNmwu60O+Nm8IcWAGixe0z57QsenwAcIGNfMaQLkS9b9gDtEKlAR+EmL42SaTangCboO7T9l1FN4LbUAkXeoq/fo8M= Received: by 10.54.22.15 with SMTP id 15mr1951657wrv; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.50.64 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:23:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7daacbbe05031909236b7acc85@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:23:22 +0100 From: Dominique Goncalves To: "Philip M. Golllucci" In-Reply-To: <423C567A.1040102@p6m7g8.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C567A.1040102@p6m7g8.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS and file locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dominique Goncalves List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:23:23 -0000 Hi, I had exactly same problem, to resolve this, use the -L option of mount_nfs. But I don't know how can I add this option in /etc/fstab. Hope this help. Regards. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:34 -0500, Philip M. Golllucci wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got a FreeBSD 6.x -current file server running NFS and I mount > lots of things via NFS on other Freebsd 6.x -current servers with an NFS > client. I get _lots_ of file locking issues. See below for just one > example. I'm wondering, will NFSv4 fix this or switching to samba ? > If not, I'd be gratefull for suggestions. > > Thanks in advance! > > vegeta# df > krillin:/usr/ports 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/ports > krillin:/usr/local/apps 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/local/apps > krillin:/usr/src 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/src > krillin:/usr/obj 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/obj > krillin:/usr/home 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/home > > vegeta# cd /usr/ports/www/apache21/ > vegeta# make > [......] > buildconf: Using libtool15.m4 at /usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool15.m4. > Creating include/arch/unix/apr_private.h.in ... > autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps > you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported > autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 > Creating configure ... > autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps > you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported > Generating 'make' outputs ... > rebuilding rpm spec file > rebuilding srclib/apr-util/configure > > Looking for apr source in ../apr > Creating include/private/apu_config.h ... > autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps > you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported > autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 > ./buildconf failed for apr-util > > -- > END > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Philip M. Gollucci > Consultant > E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com > URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml > Phone : 301.254.5198 > > $Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 17:32:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A2E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:32:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4EF43D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:32:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fewjr@adelphia.net) Received: from homevwz5ek429r ([69.174.146.250]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050319173243.TEUZ7277.mta10.adelphia.net@homevwz5ek429r> for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> From: "Francis Whittington" To: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:32:44 -0000 Hello All, I just finished installing fbsd for the 8th time. I just want to get = it up and running so I can start learning to use it . I have not gotten = X to work yet on the bsd box yet....except when I used an old 4MB card. = But X was too slow. Here is my setup now: My main computer is WinXP (because the rest of the family uses it). = It is connected to Adelphia cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless = router. My Daughter is connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD = box is connected to modem via a crossover cable. bsd box has 96MB of = RAM, Riva-TNT 16MB videocard on a intel 440 EX MoBo. I was going to use the bsd box as a router/firewall, but i don't = know enough yet...so it is just a stand alone station. My problem right = now is that I want to be able to see the rest of the network from the = bsd box. I cannot ping the other 2 machines. And without X, I am not = sure what to use to see if I am hitting internet with it. Yeah...I know = i'm a newbie. any thoughts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 17:41:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C025716A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from piccollo.p6m7g8.net (c66-236-219-70.ip.panth.com [66.236.219.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BFC43D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:41:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (pcp09579574pcs.rtchrd01.md.comcast.net [68.48.16.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by piccollo.p6m7g8.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2JHfSlW096583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:41:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <423C6451.7030805@p6m7g8.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:41:37 -0500 From: "Philip M. Golllucci" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominique Goncalves References: <423C567A.1040102@p6m7g8.com> <7daacbbe05031909236b7acc85@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7daacbbe05031909236b7acc85@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS and file locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:41:54 -0000 Hi, That works! I haven't tried it yet...., but is it better to use the -L or run these 3 services ? Also, if anyone knows how to add this in fstab that would be nice too... Not that I reboot that often :) Thanks! -L Do not forward fcntl(2) locks over the wire. All locks will be local and not seen by the server and likewise not seen by other NFS clients. This removes the need to run the rpcbind(8) service and the rpc.statd(8) and rpc.lockd(8) servers on the client. Note that this option will only be honored when performing the initial mount, it will be silently ignored if used while updating the mount options. END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci Consultant E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Phone : 301.254.5198 $Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ Dominique Goncalves wrote: > Hi, > > I had exactly same problem, to resolve this, use the -L option of mount_nfs. > But I don't know how can I add this option in /etc/fstab. > > Hope this help. > > Regards. > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:42:34 -0500, Philip M. Golllucci > wrote: > >>Hi all, >> >>I've got a FreeBSD 6.x -current file server running NFS and I mount >>lots of things via NFS on other Freebsd 6.x -current servers with an NFS >>client. I get _lots_ of file locking issues. See below for just one >>example. I'm wondering, will NFSv4 fix this or switching to samba ? >>If not, I'd be gratefull for suggestions. >> >>Thanks in advance! >> >>vegeta# df >>krillin:/usr/ports 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/ports >>krillin:/usr/local/apps 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/local/apps >>krillin:/usr/src 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/src >>krillin:/usr/obj 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/obj >>krillin:/usr/home 15390126 3159612 10999304 22% /usr/home >> >>vegeta# cd /usr/ports/www/apache21/ >>vegeta# make >>[......] >>buildconf: Using libtool15.m4 at /usr/local/share/aclocal/libtool15.m4. >>Creating include/arch/unix/apr_private.h.in ... >>autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps >>you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported >>autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 >>Creating configure ... >>autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps >>you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported >>Generating 'make' outputs ... >>rebuilding rpm spec file >>rebuilding srclib/apr-util/configure >> >>Looking for apr source in ../apr >>Creating include/private/apu_config.h ... >>autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps >>you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported >>autoheader259: /usr/local/bin/autom4te259 failed with exit status: 1 >>./buildconf failed for apr-util >> >>-- >>END >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>Philip M. Gollucci >>Consultant >>E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com >>URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml >>Phone : 301.254.5198 >> >>$Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 18:00:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDC943D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from singh.madhusudan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so490973rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=sHHsGZ0AC5kJdjR4ST8dF0mUczhnLV2prC47Q9eW+ZCzRduHLirinS1YXx+UNoh97P5cisqnrciKNM/w4CnqNJUwN3rRjQb/puTOJKuVNRB2y11fayvoq9kx2wmG2cSeDs59yopEiFLOfgxTT+0zI2X6CDHSXyvqRJ/45xK7egg= Received: by 10.38.14.69 with SMTP id 69mr3879235rnn; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([24.60.144.26]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 70sm1338448rnb.2005.03.19.10.00.43; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:00:44 -0800 (PST) From: Madhusudan Singh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:01:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200503191329.j2JDTi9J091703@spoon.beta.com> In-Reply-To: <200503191329.j2JDTi9J091703@spoon.beta.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503191301.44770.singh.madhusudan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Recommendations for "All-in-One" device? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:00:45 -0000 On Saturday 19 March 2005 08:29, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > I'm currently in the market for an "All-in-One" device for the home > network, mostly for the fax functionality (it'll be replacing an Canon > scanner and Okidata 810e laser printer). Before anyone suggests their > favorite FreeBSD Fax modem/app, I'll let it be known that I've been told > that the expectation is that we'll have a "normal" looking/working fax > machine for the house ;) > > I've searched the mailing lists for "All-in-One", and tried searches on > printers, scanners, copiers, and faxes individually with no real good hits. > > I'm somewhat curious about the HPs, but wanted to get people's experiences > with different devices, and what works/doesn't work with FreeBSD. > > -B > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have an HP OfficeJet K80xi (fax + scan + print + copy). It looks partially like a "normal" fax machine. I think that HP does not produce it any longer. However, I have used it for almost 3 years without any problems. Look at www.linuxprinting.org to find out about supported printers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:15:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEDE43D55 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (dsl-175-46.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.175.46]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2JJEsRi024592; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:14:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <423C7A24.1010602@vilot.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:14:44 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francis Whittington References: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> In-Reply-To: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:01 -0000 Hello, Francis > My main computer is WinXP (because the rest of the family uses it). It is connected to Adelphia cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless router. My Daughter is connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD box is connected to modem via a crossover cable. bsd box has 96MB of RAM, Riva-TNT 16MB videocard on a intel 440 EX MoBo. > I was going to use the bsd box as a router/firewall, but i don't know enough yet...so it is just a stand alone station. My problem right now is that I want to be able to see the rest of the network from the bsd box. I cannot ping the other 2 machines. And without X, I am not sure what to use to see if I am hitting internet with it. Yeah...I know i'm a newbie. > Okay, first of all ... if you are connecting the BSD machine to the cable modem directly, it is natural that you can not see the rest of your local area network (assuming I understand you correctly). What you want is to connect the BSD box to a hub (without the crossover cable, obviously). The other computers, then, are connected to that hub either via ethernet cable or via wireless. Second, you are probably having issues with X because of the video card. My suspicion is that you don't have a driver for that card, and I do not even know if it is supported on BSD. Others on this list can probably answer that better than myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:17:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4311416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8A643D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c51so533964rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ThnQqr9zSw83esoktEPdK5JI4f8zcZ0ivxJRFkJdml7sRlSpRc1wyNlN6DyrBJlBdUqdKIJInSmT/eVyDV/8adqML0uhRpvMjwWOkPz3PT9QcJ1pdDyCIzGIQaGsEdhbBjx6BbcRVHti5tSX/STiwUgRp7tIelXKsVAM3l8um6g= Received: by 10.38.99.9 with SMTP id w9mr3877137rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:17:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:17:33 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050314072135.73ECF16A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:17:36 -0000 > From: Jason Henson > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:00:48 +0000 > Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) > On 03/13/05 15:44:32, John DeStefano wrote: > > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html > > > > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > > popping in.. > > > > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > > information. > > > > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? > > > > Thanks, as always, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > FreeBSD is very robust with power failures, but that was a reset > button. Do you have acpi on? When I hit my power button every once in > a while my system shuts down properly. Try booting into single user > mode and do a manual mount and fsck. > > And just to help you out: > > $ sysctl -ad | grep pipekva > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: Pipe KVA limit > kern.ipc.pipekva: Pipe KVA usage > $ sysctl -a | grep pipekva > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 8634368 > kern.ipc.pipekva: 344064 > Thanks to Jason's instructions, I was able to boot into -s mode, manually mount and fsck the slices, and add the two kernel paramenters to /boot/loader.conf, using his maxpipekva and pipekva parameters and values ver batim; and this seemed to get me back up and running. Howver, whenever I now try to perform any intensive operations, such as cvsup or makeworld, the errors come right back and do not desist unless I reboot the machine. Is there a recommended value for these parameters if I've got a total of 340MB RAM, or another way of solving this problem? Thank you, ~John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:27:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4509116A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D057643D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:27:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JJRn25021821; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:27:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> To: scottl@samsco.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:27:48 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:27:39 -0000 re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; --- Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of our projects do well, don't you. Apparently you have zero idea of where we are going. While you are content with shipping binary stuff in your source tree and in your ports tree, we are not. We do not ship binaries. We are not interested in shipping a binary for some CLI. We actually do have the Linux CLI working in emulation, but we will not supply it to our user community. I have cancelled that effort by that developer. We will not supply something to our user community that they cannot fix and improve themselves. We have been talking with Adaptec for 4 months. They have not given us management information. We have been talking to Adaptec for more than a year to get other RAID controller information, as in, how to even get the mailbox stuff fixed. They have not given that to us, either. Noone thought to talk to you. You are, I am sure, under a non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would therefore not give us documentation. We are quite used to FreeBSD and Linux people signing NDA's by now. Yesterday on the phone Doug said "But we did give OpenBSD documentation, we gave them to Scott Long". Thus, Doug mentioned that *you* had documentation, and thought that was enough. Of course it is not. You do not help us, I told him. That is not how it works. And so it stands -- we still have no documentation. Did I get an offer from you for documentation before you went onto a public site and said I was full of crap? No, I did not. And I expect that now that you have said I am full of crap, we still will get no documentation from you. Right? We are working on a driver-independent raid management framework. One command (perhaps called raidctl(4), we don't know) that should work on any controller from any vendor, which would do management, because the management stuff would be abstracted in a driver-independent way into each driver. Yes this is a difficult project. We have support for AMI almost working. We will support some other product, as well, then we'll see where Adaptec stands. I do a lot of work on OpenBSD. I am sure that you do a lot of work on your stuff in FreeBSD too, so you know what it is to be a very busy busy person. When a vendor ignores me and the efforts of 4 other people trying to get the vendor to listen -- for that long, we have no choice. Yet, you, Scott, you think that you are therefore able to slag us and call us wrong, because YOU are in the loop and we are not? Because you used to WORK at Adaptec, and we did not? That somehow makes us full of crap? I have been watching the mail going to Doug over the last 24 hours. I have been counting controllers mentioned in mails and am now up to over 1,800 Adaptec RAID controllers, with people from very large commercial operations complaining that they have been switching to other controllers (or, having now seen Adaptec's failure in this regard, that they will now actively not buy Adaptec again). Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. Quite frankly, you don't understand what we are trying to do, and Scott, this is just like the binary only Atheros driver that FreeBSD ships. I like it when all hardware is supported with source code, but just because our methods for getting there are different than yours, Scott, that gives you absolutely no right to go posting such a thing as you did there. Shame on you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9BF16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D5E43D55 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so446058rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:36:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QvByQGfdSkdWhSHSqPPqN0C8Xv7LPK1HaY4YwxjbcvSkO3j8el+NRmcLvcVi/vYnW1ilgJzBx/SrbudyoM1BcyZbSWZ8nlrufU1IOITwRbJWLvjeuOLtRyR+nF7uvx1DhTazAu8VIAV74nFFd4j9vkVM7jA0QwbELWGVTJ7zs7k= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr3454770rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:36:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d7100005031911361f6066d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:36:46 -0800 From: pete wright To: Jerry Bell In-Reply-To: <3589.24.98.86.57.1111236739.squirrel@24.98.86.57> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <3589.24.98.86.57.1111236739.squirrel@24.98.86.57> cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:48 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:52:19 -0500 (EST), Jerry Bell wrote: > One option is to use communigate. It allegedly works with the outlook > mapi client and should work on freebsd. > http://www.stalker.com/content/solutions.htm > > I've heard from a lot of people that swear by it, particularly in the ISP > space. > yea, it does seem to work quite well with MS's mapi client, and does run well on FreeBSD. Support is good, and is pretty scalable. It's been a while since I've had to work with it, but from what I remember it's a decent platform for SMB's as well as ISP's. That is if you do not have the man-power/resources to build and admin a Postfix or Sendmail solution. It's also pretty trivial to add calander support, and spam/AV filtering, has a pretty decent scripting API (in PERL if I remember correctly) and a web-based client is included. As for large scale MTA's, I still think postfix or sendmail are really your only sane choices. They are both quite flexible, and do not lock you into one hardware/OS which some would consider a good thing. -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1652E16A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C3443D49 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JJb9bD004489; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:37:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503191937.j2JJb9bD004489@cvs.openbsd.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:27:48 MST." <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:37:09 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: scottl@samsco.org cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:36:56 -0000 To make it easier for people to find Scott Long's post to osnews.com here it is in full: --- Direct comment link From a BSD and former Adaptec person... By Scott (IP: ---.samsco.org) - Posted on 2005-03-19 19:02:37 I don't know if it's better to post this here or onto the openbsd-misc list, but anyways.... First, Theo is full of crap. I'll say that again: Theo is full of crap. I don't think that he's actually interested in making the AAC cards work. Instead, I think that he's interested in stirring controversy, petty bullying, and silly 'freedom' tripe. I worked at Adaptec for almost five years, until last year. I worked on the FreeBSD (and Linux) AAC driver, and I ported the AAC management CLI to FreeBSD. It's available right now in the FreeBSD ports tree. I also added the proper shims to the driver so that the Linux AACCLI would work under emulation. The fact that I did these things is pretty well known in the BSD community; several other projects have contacted me over the years for help and information about AAC. But during the time the Theo claims that he's cared about AAC, he NEVER ONCE CONTACTED ME! If he had come to me before I left and asked for help on making all of this AAC stuff work on OpenBSD, I would have been happy to help him. Heck, I might have even ported the AACCLI for him on my own. Unfortuntely, Theo chose to ignore resources that would have helped him, and instead chose his normal super-confrontational antics. I have to commend Doug Richardson (one of the nicest men I've ever worked with, BTW) for his very appropriate response. If Adaptec provides an open SDK later this year, good for them, but it certainly is not due to Theo. Theo could have had AACCLI support years ago, but chose not to. I hope he removes the driver from the tree. That would really teach everyone how mature and 'right' he is. Scott Long From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3357A43D55 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JJd57e016167; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:39:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 MST." <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:39:05 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 -0000 > Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>While I understand what you want Theo lets not remove the support for > >>stuff that currently works. I just spent $349 on a Adaptec RAID card > >>for my home server and if the support is removed I will be very upset. > >>The drive is written. Leave it alone. Let it be up to the end user to > >>pick which card they want to buy. You can not go back and undone > >>support for something you have listed! > > > > > > Sorry. Besides not having raid management, the driver is rather buggy. > > You know, over the years that I worked for Adaptec and worked on the > FreeBSD AAC driver, lots of other people contacted me for help with > making their AAC driver work with their OS. Strangely, not once did > you or anyone else from OpenBSD contact me. Nate perhaps did. But why should we know that an NDA-singing FreeBSD person is our contact, when over the years, even the people at Adaptec did not tell us so? > I would have been happy to > help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not > a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have > been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver > so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never > contacted me. We do not want a binary tool. Neither our developers, nor our users. We like free software. > I think your whole rant here is bunk. You're more concerned about petty > bullying and showing everyone how important you are. Your treatment of > Doug is downright shameful, and I plan to call him and discuss it Monday > morning. If Adaptec puts out an SDK later this year then good for them, > but I highly doubt that it will be as a result of your antics. You > could have had good AAC support years ago if you had just bothered to > look around and use your resources, but instead you chose not to. > Delete the driver and screw your users over some more. > > Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:41:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD4A16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0E943D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JJeoqD045676; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:40:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:38:48 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Theo de Raadt References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:41:38 -0000 Theo de Raadt wrote: > re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 > > See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; > > --- > Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. > > I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of > our projects do well, don't you. > > Apparently you have zero idea of where we are going. > > While you are content with shipping binary stuff in your source tree > and in your ports tree, we are not. We do not ship binaries. We are > not interested in shipping a binary for some CLI. We actually do have > the Linux CLI working in emulation, but we will not supply it to our > user community. I have cancelled that effort by that developer. We > will not supply something to our user community that they cannot fix > and improve themselves. > > We have been talking with Adaptec for 4 months. They have not > given us management information. > > We have been talking to Adaptec for more than a year to get other RAID > controller information, as in, how to even get the mailbox stuff > fixed. They have not given that to us, either. > > Noone thought to talk to you. You are, I am sure, under a > non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would > therefore not give us documentation. We are quite used to FreeBSD and > Linux people signing NDA's by now. Yesterday on the phone Doug said > "But we did give OpenBSD documentation, we gave them to Scott Long". > > Thus, Doug mentioned that *you* had documentation, and thought that > was enough. Of course it is not. You do not help us, I told him. > That is not how it works. And so it stands -- we still have no > documentation. > > Did I get an offer from you for documentation before you went onto a > public site and said I was full of crap? No, I did not. > > And I expect that now that you have said I am full of crap, we still > will get no documentation from you. Right? > > > We are working on a driver-independent raid management framework. One > command (perhaps called raidctl(4), we don't know) that should work on > any controller from any vendor, which would do management, because the > management stuff would be abstracted in a driver-independent way into > each driver. Yes this is a difficult project. We have support for > AMI almost working. We will support some other product, as well, then > we'll see where Adaptec stands. > > I do a lot of work on OpenBSD. I am sure that you do a lot of work on > your stuff in FreeBSD too, so you know what it is to be a very busy > busy person. > > When a vendor ignores me and the efforts of 4 other people trying to > get the vendor to listen -- for that long, we have no choice. > > Yet, you, Scott, you think that you are therefore able to slag us and > call us wrong, because YOU are in the loop and we are not? Because > you used to WORK at Adaptec, and we did not? That somehow makes us > full of crap? > > I have been watching the mail going to Doug over the last 24 hours. > > I have been counting controllers mentioned in mails and am now up to > over 1,800 Adaptec RAID controllers, with people from very large > commercial operations complaining that they have been switching to > other controllers (or, having now seen Adaptec's failure in this > regard, that they will now actively not buy Adaptec again). > > Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If > Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had > better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware > of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair > this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their > controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. > > Quite frankly, you don't understand what we are trying to do, and > Scott, this is just like the binary only Atheros driver that FreeBSD > ships. > > I like it when all hardware is supported with source code, but just > because our methods for getting there are different than yours, Scott, > that gives you absolutely no right to go posting such a thing as you > did there. > > Shame on you. Oh boo hoo. You never contacted me. Others in that past have. No, I can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc. Ask the BSD/OS guys, ask the OSDL guys, on and on and on. And as for trying to expose my evil conspriarcy against OpenBSD via Doug, you might want to leave him out of it. If you have questions, ask them and I'll do my best to answer them. Otherwise, stop crying that no one will help you. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:54:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:54:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0AF43D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:54:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EAE21C901 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:54:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08464-05 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:54:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D56821C8BC for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:54:40 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:53:58 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5854584.Nr0Z8ZzaPd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503191354.38712.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: ksu doesn't use my ticket X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:54:44 -0000 --nextPart5854584.Nr0Z8ZzaPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I have a working kdc on my LAN and use OpenSSH's "gssapi-with-mic"=20 authentication to connect to other machines. However, I can't=20 use /usr/bin/ksu to su to root without entering root's password, even if I= =20 have a current, valid ticket and am listed in root's .k5login; $ sudo cat /root/.k5login # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.k5login,v 1.1 2003/04/30 20:58:49 markm Exp $ # # user1/root@YOUR.REALM.WHEREVER # user2/root@YOUR.REALM.WHEREVER kirk@HONEYPOT.NET $ klist Credentials cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_1000 Principal: kirk@HONEYPOT.NET Issued Expires Principal Mar 19 13:41:03 Mar 19 23:41:03 krbtgt/HONEYPOT.NET@HONEYPOT.NET $ ksu root's password: Sorry! Shouldn't that be sufficient to allow me to become root without entering an= y=20 passwords, or am I missing something? This is somewhat exacerbated by the= =20 fact that I can't seem to find ksu's man page or other documentation on my= =20 system. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart5854584.Nr0Z8ZzaPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCPIN+5sRg+Y0CpvERAtpiAJ9RiLYoB+w2kdB3eekBf8GhJdlm7gCgjVkc /j6xXpRc4CCuLJOnR/j5/VU= =Xnys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5854584.Nr0Z8ZzaPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:02:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D5816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:02:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28443D58 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:02:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah.list@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so450103rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=U9zni2UG4MsV5zB0B1sPc4xYlMLw4CiQCCQyTeoRE7Knk93cp8iB1pjK07wKrNCQml1CKouV+eeai+hpwDZO6ZJKl6pZQZsRm5HAgZaFekj2kj8GHYsLBBajJe+w8kq7y6DyiLk1o/OUACljnj/FsgIlKv9LFqjputR++5ebOCE= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr3454088rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?207.13.73.251? ([207.13.73.251]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm22137rnb.2005.03.19.12.02.31; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:31 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sean Hafeez Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:02:33 -0000 There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I am going home" stuff just does not work. The vendors need a business case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I can agree with that. Maybe we can do some sort of list of companies or OpenBSD people that use or would use the cards - along with number and install base study of the number of sales they would get and give it to them. We should work on some sort of cookie cutter type setup that tracks the interest and $$ with a product that we can compile and be sent to the vendor in order to get support. The data needs to be correct and true and presented in a business case manor. The one-off flock of emails just do not work. I would be happy to help with this and pursue this if there are others that think it is a good idea. Also is there needs to be a stock form that is send the vendors that covers in detail what we ask for. Some that can be vetted by their lawyer that they would be OK with. We need to work with the vendors in a clear, clean business like manner and leave emotion and philosophy out of it. This is just my 2 cents. If you do not like it, oh well. Regards, Sean Hafeez "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." - Lectures On The Electrical Properties Of Materials, L. Solymar, D. Walsh On Mar 19, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 > > See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; > > --- > Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. > > I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of > our projects do well, don't you. > > Apparently you have zero idea of where we are going. > > While you are content with shipping binary stuff in your source tree > and in your ports tree, we are not. We do not ship binaries. We are > not interested in shipping a binary for some CLI. We actually do have > the Linux CLI working in emulation, but we will not supply it to our > user community. I have cancelled that effort by that developer. We > will not supply something to our user community that they cannot fix > and improve themselves. > > We have been talking with Adaptec for 4 months. They have not > given us management information. > > We have been talking to Adaptec for more than a year to get other RAID > controller information, as in, how to even get the mailbox stuff > fixed. They have not given that to us, either. > > Noone thought to talk to you. You are, I am sure, under a > non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would > therefore not give us documentation. We are quite used to FreeBSD and > Linux people signing NDA's by now. Yesterday on the phone Doug said > "But we did give OpenBSD documentation, we gave them to Scott Long". > > Thus, Doug mentioned that *you* had documentation, and thought that > was enough. Of course it is not. You do not help us, I told him. > That is not how it works. And so it stands -- we still have no > documentation. > > Did I get an offer from you for documentation before you went onto a > public site and said I was full of crap? No, I did not. > > And I expect that now that you have said I am full of crap, we still > will get no documentation from you. Right? > > > We are working on a driver-independent raid management framework. One > command (perhaps called raidctl(4), we don't know) that should work on > any controller from any vendor, which would do management, because the > management stuff would be abstracted in a driver-independent way into > each driver. Yes this is a difficult project. We have support for > AMI almost working. We will support some other product, as well, then > we'll see where Adaptec stands. > > I do a lot of work on OpenBSD. I am sure that you do a lot of work on > your stuff in FreeBSD too, so you know what it is to be a very busy > busy person. > > When a vendor ignores me and the efforts of 4 other people trying to > get the vendor to listen -- for that long, we have no choice. > > Yet, you, Scott, you think that you are therefore able to slag us and > call us wrong, because YOU are in the loop and we are not? Because > you used to WORK at Adaptec, and we did not? That somehow makes us > full of crap? > > I have been watching the mail going to Doug over the last 24 hours. > > I have been counting controllers mentioned in mails and am now up to > over 1,800 Adaptec RAID controllers, with people from very large > commercial operations complaining that they have been switching to > other controllers (or, having now seen Adaptec's failure in this > regard, that they will now actively not buy Adaptec again). > > Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If > Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had > better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware > of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair > this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their > controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. > > Quite frankly, you don't understand what we are trying to do, and > Scott, this is just like the binary only Atheros driver that FreeBSD > ships. > > I like it when all hardware is supported with source code, but just > because our methods for getting there are different than yours, Scott, > that gives you absolutely no right to go posting such a thing as you > did there. > > Shame on you. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:16:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7028516A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5A243D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron.glenn@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so585977rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:16:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DiwZUOtA0wR2MKodNHuPG+HX1etZ7VoSo5qH4uq7+VgRGXB2gbjwD4+/Y1rSOg10jhCheB1A8QWaNZt4UcEedOB7KQzNbsF1nPcQ0jXmQvEpamMmHQj1zoI8fXqsrN68d0rh/IkOVEvQVyi7OGFc6okBC5M9BUSb0XpON/ZlmjU= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3456941rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.151.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:16:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <18f601940503191216685b2e16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:16:34 -0800 From: Aaron Glenn To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Glenn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:37 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:38:48 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Otherwise, stop crying that no one will help you. Please enlighten us (those who buy Adaptec hardware and would like full functionality on OpenBSD) why no one at Adaptec will help the OpenBSD developers by simply giving them the needed documentation? Just what the, pardon the expression, fuck is so special about the RAID functionality on these boards? Doug doesn't seem interested in answering that question so I'm following your advice and asking you. aaron.glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702F816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0815D43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKGp2P019452; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192016.j2JKGp2P019452@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 MST." <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:51 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 -0000 > I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. Which is why you go onto public posting sites and slag me, instead of calling you your buddy Doug and saying "Hey, these guys have a point, and you really ought to sell it to Adaptec management, since you are the guy who can make this change, as you already told Theo and others four months previously that you were the guy that could". But no. Scott Long goes and slags the people who are taking a different approach. Scott, you do NOT stand for free software. You only stand for "whatever works". At least I am consistant in standing up for Free Software, and it has been working very well. I've freed up TONS of chipsets. What have you freed up lately? You work on RAID drivers, lots and lots of them, and you have not freed up ONE management interface. Why? I don't know. Has slagging me in public forums gotten you closer to opening up a RAID management interface? Nope. It has not. Was it fun? ps. When are you replacing the binary Atheros driver you have with the free one that we have reverse engineered? One that could be worked on by lots of people to make it better and better, unlike that .o file you ship. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:20:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA7216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:20:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CA143D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2JKK7q2000771; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2JKK4D0010518; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:20:03 -0500 To: Theo de Raadt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:20:10 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: [ ... ] Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to continue to help other BSD projects-- including OpenBSD-- regardless, but this sort of thing: > Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If > Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had > better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware > of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair > this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their > controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as some sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope the other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being counterproductive and harmful to your users. Otherwise, you're likely to discover that most people choose to run an OS which works with the hardware they have, rather than sticking with OpenBSD. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4B016A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588843D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA44137; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:21:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:22:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Francis Whittington In-Reply-To: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Message-ID: <20050319143106.Y97589@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:21:47 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Francis Whittington wrote: > My main computer is WinXP (because the rest of the family uses it). > It is connected to Adelphia cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless > router. My Daughter is connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD > box is connected to modem via a crossover cable. bsd box has 96MB of > RAM, Riva-TNT 16MB videocard on a intel 440 EX MoBo. > I was going to use the bsd box as a router/firewall, but i don't > know enough yet...so it is just a stand alone station. My problem > right now is that I want to be able to see the rest of the network > from the bsd box. I cannot ping the other 2 machines. And without X, I > am not sure what to use to see if I am hitting internet with it. OK, first of all this is two separate issues. I wouldn't worry about X just yet; first let's make sure you have connectivity. If you can't ping your internal Windows boxes, there is probably something wrong with your BSD machine's IP configuration. What does the BSD box say when you type ifconfig -a on the command line? ...and for comparison, what does the Windows box say when you type ipconfig /all on its command line? If the D-Link is acting as a gateway and NAT (which I'm assuming even though you didn't say so), and set to its defaults, you should see 192.168.0.x IP addresses on both machines (where x is a different number on the two machines). You also need to make sure all the machines (computers and D-Link) have the same netmask configured; this will almost certainly be 255.255.255.0. If the IP and/or netmask are wrong, you can fix it using the ifconfig command (man ifconfig). Once you have it figured out, put your changes in /etc/rc.conf so they will stay correct next time the machine boots. Also, are you able to ping the D-Link? Its default IP is 192.168.0.1, IIRC. HTH... -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:22:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125F516A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:22:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628D443D5A for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:22:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id D8B5D853; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:22:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:22:41 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050319202241.GQ4572@seekingfire.com> References: <200503191354.38712.kirk@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503191354.38712.kirk@strauser.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:22:45 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 01:53:58PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I have a working kdc on my LAN and use OpenSSH's "gssapi-with-mic" > authentication to connect to other machines. However, I can't > use /usr/bin/ksu to su to root without entering root's password, even if I > have a current, valid ticket and am listed in root's .k5login; The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. -T -- "You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once." -- Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:26:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:26:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orac.acorntoolworks.com (adsl-66-123-74-10.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [66.123.74.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A53643D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtc@acorntoolworks.com) Received: from orac.acorntoolworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2JKQnX9018220 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jtc@localhost) by orac.acorntoolworks.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) id j2JKQn6t016039; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:26:49 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jtc@acorntoolworks.com (J.T. Conklin) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:26:49 -0800 Message-ID: <87k6o3756e.fsf@orac.acorntoolworks.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD equivalent for SEGV_MAPERR? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jtc@acorntoolworks.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:26:51 -0000 I'm working on autoconf support for ACE (A C++ framework) and TAO (Real-time CORBA ORB). The resulting configuration is failing for FreeBSD, something I'd like before the upcoming ACE/TAO release. I downloaded FreeBSD 5.3 and installed it under vmware to reproduce (and hopefully fix) this problem. The configure script detects that FreeBSD supports SA_SIGINFO, the siginfo_t struct, and the fact siginfo_t has a si_addr field so it enables code to check for segmentation errors in the shared memory pool class. But that fails to compile due to the lack of a SEGV_MAPERR macro. The code in question is: else if (!(siginfo->si_code == SEGV_MAPERR && siginfo->si_addr < (((char *) this->base_addr_) + offset) && siginfo->si_addr >= ((char *) this->base_addr_))) ACE_ERROR_RETURN ((LM_ERROR, "(%P|%t) address %u out of range\n", siginfo->si_addr), -1); I wrote a little test program to force a SIGSEGV, and si_addr seems to have the correct value. But I don't know what macro/constant I should be checking si_code against. --jtc -- J.T. Conklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36016A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:29:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B37943D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so542703rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:29:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=neot2DBuUlyLelYMDDiWvOg1FmxGYbWitnsd1Xk8WGfRydYS0jOtqJVi0fmyejpCQt3dl/w3omLQRnU3iyEZwhY+cL4vYO087QOGaaTDk1JzX82aRQ3ABjxXhXUOeU5NkODqc1kx3+I8kCpPaOygq4DXKNvFFGRgTwM5Pu1r4r8= Received: by 10.38.76.23 with SMTP id y23mr633456rna; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:29:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805031912297b5f6f39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:29:02 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <423C89BF.4010604@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <5d683828050319122066805fe@mail.gmail.com> <423C89BF.4010604@samsco.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:29:03 -0000 The OpenBSD community doesn't want help for closed utilities and drivers. All we want is documentation. No source, no binary-only-cannot-distrubute drivers and utilities, just enough documenatation for which to write their drivers, and support oursevles. No one has been able to answer us on how releasing just documentation would lose them so much business that it's worth losing all this business. Jason On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:21:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Jason Crawford wrote: > > The problem is that the AAC driver doesn't work. My 3.6-stable dell > > poweredge server with that raid controller crashes at least once a > > week because of the raid controller driver. There is nothing wrong > > with fighting for something that you want, and neither you nor Doug > > have been that helpful. All Doug did was give Theo the run-around by > > saying, don't worry, we'll be coming out with all new stuff! Which he > > neglected to mention that they wouldn't be opening documentation for > > either, at least enough to write a stable driver and management > > utility. Adaptec would not be losing any money for just releasing > > enough docs to let someone else write their own driver and management > > utility TO USE ADAPTEC'S HARDWARE. They'd be generating more business. > > This attitude so far has been quite productive, the OpenBSD community > > has gotten many wireless firmware's and drivers completely open, not > > to mention Theo getting the FSF award. I'd say that is pretty damn > > productive. > > > > Jason > > > > If the OpenBSD driver is buggy, then ask for help. I don't normally > monitor the OpenBSD mailing lists and I don't run it at home, so I have > no idea what the state of it is. I do, however, answer email from > developers from other projects who contact me. The hardware is tricky > to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge. > > Scott > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > > >>Adam wrote: > >> > >>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>I would have been happy to > >>>>help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not > >>>>a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have > >>>>been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver > >>>>so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never > >>>>contacted me. > >>> > >>> > >>>Does everyone who's worked at adaptec have such big problems with reading > >>>comprehension? Nobody wants a maybe working, cludgy, binary only tool. > >>>How would giving the developers something they don't want be considered > >>>"helping"? > >>> > >>>Adam > >> > >>I can't see how the All Or Nothing attitude here is productive. Good, > >>you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's > >>wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and > >>yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me > >>tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll > >>ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results. > >>Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights > >>by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything > >>that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > >>companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > >>the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > >>pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. > >> > >>Scott > >> > >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:32:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED5B16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:32:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0CC43D53 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:32:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JKVbR3045938; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:31:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <423C8BB0.90504@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:36 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Crawford References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <5d683828050319122066805fe@mail.gmail.com> <423C89BF.4010604@samsco.org> <5d68382805031912297b5f6f39@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5d68382805031912297b5f6f39@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:32:28 -0000 It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. Scott Jason Crawford wrote: > The OpenBSD community doesn't want help for closed utilities and > drivers. All we want is documentation. No source, no > binary-only-cannot-distrubute drivers and utilities, just enough > documenatation for which to write their drivers, and support > oursevles. No one has been able to answer us on how releasing just > documentation would lose them so much business that it's worth losing > all this business. > > Jason > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:21:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >>Jason Crawford wrote: >> >>>The problem is that the AAC driver doesn't work. My 3.6-stable dell >>>poweredge server with that raid controller crashes at least once a >>>week because of the raid controller driver. There is nothing wrong >>>with fighting for something that you want, and neither you nor Doug >>>have been that helpful. All Doug did was give Theo the run-around by >>>saying, don't worry, we'll be coming out with all new stuff! Which he >>>neglected to mention that they wouldn't be opening documentation for >>>either, at least enough to write a stable driver and management >>>utility. Adaptec would not be losing any money for just releasing >>>enough docs to let someone else write their own driver and management >>>utility TO USE ADAPTEC'S HARDWARE. They'd be generating more business. >>>This attitude so far has been quite productive, the OpenBSD community >>>has gotten many wireless firmware's and drivers completely open, not >>>to mention Theo getting the FSF award. I'd say that is pretty damn >>>productive. >>> >>>Jason >>> >> >>If the OpenBSD driver is buggy, then ask for help. I don't normally >>monitor the OpenBSD mailing lists and I don't run it at home, so I have >>no idea what the state of it is. I do, however, answer email from >>developers from other projects who contact me. The hardware is tricky >>to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different >>firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all >>documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge. >> >>Scott >> >> >>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 -0700, Scott Long wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Adam wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 -0700, Scott Long wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I would have been happy to >>>>>>help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not >>>>>>a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have >>>>>>been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver >>>>>>so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never >>>>>>contacted me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Does everyone who's worked at adaptec have such big problems with reading >>>>>comprehension? Nobody wants a maybe working, cludgy, binary only tool. >>>>>How would giving the developers something they don't want be considered >>>>>"helping"? >>>>> >>>>>Adam >>>> >>>>I can't see how the All Or Nothing attitude here is productive. Good, >>>>you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's >>>>wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and >>>>yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me >>>>tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll >>>>ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results. >>>>Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights >>>>by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything >>>>that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID >>>>companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use >>>>the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be >>>>pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. >>>> >>>>Scott >>>> >>>> >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:34:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB34916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6264443D7B for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so543609rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V6pXh0oG/NE7aIuZNXnEqIwcI7b4JgNqSD56bYplNM/UZ/tvQpQXTTcl48Dm7fa2v1JQNA0MnnUzeuaH/XxEY8bNtQYi8IVK1PYU4VvCsACfmeEnWqyoDhzz4i7mFbd1vlIEOFVYACzmty++mjYaUyGetp17AhV0neQ3EVwHv9k= Received: by 10.38.22.69 with SMTP id 69mr1824873rnv; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:34:29 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /usr/ports/packages/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:34:31 -0000 Does only portmanager create packages ? Or does make install also make a package ? How can i tell them to put all the packages in the /usr/ports/packages/ instead of the port application directory ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:35:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B406C16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428543D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKZKOM018459; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:35:20 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192035.j2JKZKOM018459@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:36 MST." <423C8BB0.90504@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:35:20 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: Jason Crawford cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:07 -0000 > It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. > Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. The driver is free, but the tool is a binary. The interface "tunnel" is coded in the driver, so that the "closed binary" tool can talk through to the card. The messages exchanged are not documented, either. Same thing. You are saying There are open bits and I am saying There are closed bits This whole thing is about the closed bits, not about the open bits. Why do you keep apologizing for Adaptec, and attacking our efforts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:35:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEAA16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732BF43D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so454869rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:35:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ofGMuuMto4IbTz8uSwfkRpDO8EBmu5RGdl45zBLRSsY1b/GgcdIAImPy71/q1mFaGLc79tboO7Bxb+/06/cQCnyWFljbQzhS+hfiEMbmcidr5bSz/HrpDIu7v9OhSkUNVfSpSXAuqJETxhxZT4zOmQi7kxLl1feyk5KsKmFZHC4= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr3484203rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:35:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319123560fdb30d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:35:23 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <423C8BB0.90504@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <5d683828050319122066805fe@mail.gmail.com> <423C89BF.4010604@samsco.org> <5d68382805031912297b5f6f39@mail.gmail.com> <423C8BB0.90504@samsco.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:24 -0000 Even a working driver without any management utilities is not what I would want to run on a production server. I need to be able to find out what is wrong with the RAID setup, if anything, state of all the disks, etc... which I cannot do without rebooting. And I fail to see how letting a community write their own management utility buy just releasing some documentation could hurt in any way. Please, someone answer me, how is not releasing JUST DOCUMENATION, to let a community support themselves, AND BUY YOU'RE HARDWARE, worth losing all this business. Jason On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:36 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. > Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. > > Scott > > Jason Crawford wrote: > > The OpenBSD community doesn't want help for closed utilities and > > drivers. All we want is documentation. No source, no > > binary-only-cannot-distrubute drivers and utilities, just enough > > documenatation for which to write their drivers, and support > > oursevles. No one has been able to answer us on how releasing just > > documentation would lose them so much business that it's worth losing > > all this business. > > > > Jason > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:21:19 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > > >>Jason Crawford wrote: > >> > >>>The problem is that the AAC driver doesn't work. My 3.6-stable dell > >>>poweredge server with that raid controller crashes at least once a > >>>week because of the raid controller driver. There is nothing wrong > >>>with fighting for something that you want, and neither you nor Doug > >>>have been that helpful. All Doug did was give Theo the run-around by > >>>saying, don't worry, we'll be coming out with all new stuff! Which he > >>>neglected to mention that they wouldn't be opening documentation for > >>>either, at least enough to write a stable driver and management > >>>utility. Adaptec would not be losing any money for just releasing > >>>enough docs to let someone else write their own driver and management > >>>utility TO USE ADAPTEC'S HARDWARE. They'd be generating more business. > >>>This attitude so far has been quite productive, the OpenBSD community > >>>has gotten many wireless firmware's and drivers completely open, not > >>>to mention Theo getting the FSF award. I'd say that is pretty damn > >>>productive. > >>> > >>>Jason > >>> > >> > >>If the OpenBSD driver is buggy, then ask for help. I don't normally > >>monitor the OpenBSD mailing lists and I don't run it at home, so I have > >>no idea what the state of it is. I do, however, answer email from > >>developers from other projects who contact me. The hardware is tricky > >>to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > >>firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > >>documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge. > >> > >>Scott > >> > >> > >>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Adam wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>I would have been happy to > >>>>>>help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not > >>>>>>a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have > >>>>>>been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver > >>>>>>so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never > >>>>>>contacted me. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Does everyone who's worked at adaptec have such big problems with reading > >>>>>comprehension? Nobody wants a maybe working, cludgy, binary only tool. > >>>>>How would giving the developers something they don't want be considered > >>>>>"helping"? > >>>>> > >>>>>Adam > >>>> > >>>>I can't see how the All Or Nothing attitude here is productive. Good, > >>>>you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's > >>>>wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and > >>>>yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me > >>>>tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll > >>>>ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results. > >>>>Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights > >>>>by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything > >>>>that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > >>>>companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > >>>>the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > >>>>pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. > >>>> > >>>>Scott > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA60F16A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:43:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5562643D55 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKhOxZ020031; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:43:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:36 MST." <423C8BB0.90504@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:43:24 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: Jason Crawford cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:43:11 -0000 > It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. From http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/sysutils/aaccli Sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli Sorry, did not find the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli No source! Let's look closer http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/sysutils/aaccli/Makefile MASTER_SITES= http://download.adaptec.com/raid/ccu/freebsd/ DISTNAME= 5400s_fbsd_cli_v10 EXTRACT_SUFX= .zip ... RESTRICTED= "May not be redistributed in binary form" NO_CDROM= yes So there is a file somewhere that is a .zip file. It may not be put onto the official FreeBSD CDs (so obviously not OpenBSD CDs either) That's not really free is it. Let's look closer % ftp http://download.adaptec.com/raid/ccu/freebsd/5400s_fbsd_cli_v10.zip Trying 216.200.68.139... Requesting http://download.adaptec.com/raid/ccu/freebsd/5400s_fbsd_cli_v10.zip 100% |************************************************************| 565 KB 00:03 Successfully retrieved file. % unzip 5400s_fbsd_cli_v10.zip Archive: 5400s_fbsd_cli_v10.zip inflating: TRANS.TBL inflating: aaccli-1.0_0.tgz % tar xvfz aaccli-1.0_0.tgz +CONTENTS +COMMENT +DESC +POST-INSTALL bin/aaccli % file bin/aaccli bin/aaccli: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for FreeBSD 4.4, statically linked, not stripped That's a binary. Where is the source? Why do you keep talking about some Management binary? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:50:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D0916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:50:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EF343D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:50:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKoesb003713; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:50:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192050.j2JKoesb003713@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Charles Swiger In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:20:03 EST." Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:50:40 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:50:27 -0000 > Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: > if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is > generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to > continue to help other BSD projects-- including OpenBSD-- regardless, > but this sort of thing: No, Scott is the person standing in the way of us and the RAID vendors by -- 1) insulting our (often very successful efforts) to free things -- in public forums 2) by signing NDA's with vendors so that those vendors who then come to believe that we should be signing NDA's too. 3) by not insisting at all that vendors open things at least a bit, Scott is not like Bill Paul or others who have opened up a lot of hardware, but is a lot more like Sam Leffler who has perpetuated this (and today, FreeBSD has one 802.11g/a driver -- and it uses binary bits). > > Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If > > Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had > > better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware > > of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair > > this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their > > controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. > > ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as some > sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope > the other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being > counterproductive and harmful to your users. Counter productive? About 6 years ago we did this with Qlogic because their firmware images were not free enough to ship in our releases, and after 6 months of wasting our time and being stalemated, we informed Qlogic and our user community (as well as YOUR user community) that we were removing the support for their controllers. A few days later the firmware was free. But now Scott --- one of your leading developers, and a previous Adaptec employee --- goes public and says that our efforts should not be assisted. What's in it for him? > Otherwise, you're likely to discover that most people choose to run an > OS which works with the hardware they have, rather than sticking with > OpenBSD. We have no problem. People run non-free software all the time, such as Windows or the FreeBSD binary-only aaccli. It does not fit our principles though. But Scott feels that is reason to slag us. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:51:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199BB16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CE943D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2JKpcmS024116; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2JKpac7016705; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:51:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8040f9834c7cf23f340b1e836add7a81@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:51:35 -0500 To: Theo de Raadt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:51:39 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that >> contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, >> so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. > > From > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/sysutils/aaccli > > Sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli > Sorry, did not find the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli > > No source! See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/aac -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 74199 Sep 22 2003 aac.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 14939 Apr 8 2003 aac_cam.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1554 Apr 30 2002 aac_cam.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2495 Sep 19 2001 aac_compat.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 18740 Jan 11 2003 aac_debug.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9665 Sep 2 2003 aac_disk.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6670 Sep 19 2001 aac_ioctl.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2846 Mar 28 2003 aac_linux.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8894 Mar 31 2004 aac_pci.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4040 Dec 3 2001 aac_tables.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 37646 Apr 8 2003 aacreg.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 17746 Apr 8 2003 aacvar.h % less aac.c /*- * Copyright (c) 2000 Michael Smith * Copyright (c) 2001 Scott Long * Copyright (c) 2000 BSDi * Copyright (c) 2001 Adaptec, Inc. * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions * are met: * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF * SUCH DAMAGE. * * $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/aac/aac.c,v 1.9.2.16 2003/09/17 09:11:40 scottl Exp $ */ /* * Driver for the Adaptec 'FSA' family of PCI/SCSI RAID adapters. */ [ ... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:52:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFAE16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:52:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6443D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:52:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKqYov023014; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:52:34 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192052.j2JKqYov023014@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:40:56 MST." <423C8E58.60605@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:52:34 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: todd@fries.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:52:21 -0000 > I personally don't care about Adaptec anymore, but I do care about the > people there. If LSI or whoever else can provide better support, then > that's fine with me. I do however have quite a bit of experience in > knowing how things work at Adaptec and knowing what compromises can be > made. Adaptec isn't one person, it isn't Doug Richardson or any other > single individual. They do make a whole lot of stupid mistakes and > close doors on opportunities, but there is no reason to vilify Doug > for it. No, you don't vilify Doubg, but instead, you prefer to vilify me on public posting sites like osnews.com Great, Scott, just great. You don't know the difference between free software and binary software. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C6616A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71F443D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:52:58 +0100 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:52:58 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050319205258.GA31710@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: cc: cannot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:04 -0000 "cc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations" Compiling of gnome-vfs-2.10.0 stops with errors and this is not nice, cause I need this dep for bluefish. Does this error sounds familiar to somebody? An error in the port? (gnome is up2date) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:56:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE18416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:56:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca (bofh.cns.ualberta.ca [129.128.11.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33E5743D54 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:56:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca) Received: (qmail 26512 invoked by uid 12187); 19 Mar 2005 20:56:41 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:56:41 -0700 From: Bob Beck To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050319205641.GH22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Charles Swiger , Theo de Raadt , Sean Hafeez , misc@openbsd.org, Scott Long , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:56:42 -0000 > > ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as some > sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope > the other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being > counterproductive and harmful to your users. Horsecookies. What was done was remove AAC support from GENERIC, because users know what is in GENERIC is supposed to be stable and a good candidate for use. I've got AAC's. They aren't at the moment. they die, and you can't do anything with the raid management without rebooting, and Adaptec has shown no signs of releasing documentation so that situation can be corrected. Sure, there's a "free" driver, and a non-free management interface, so it's only half a driver. Pretending to have a production system using a raid card that with no supportable management interface so you have to reboot to fix anything is like buying birth control pills in packs of 20. Pretty soon you're going to take a good fucking on a day you really can't afford it. Period. As such AAC isnt' any more broken than it ever was. OpenBSD just chooses not to encourage users to purchase a non-supportable card by including support for it in the GENERIC kernel. Are you saying it's more honest to leave unstable and incomplete support in there? People who wish to use it anyway can always compile it in. > Otherwise, you're likely to discover that most people choose to run an > OS which works with the hardware they have, rather than sticking with > OpenBSD. Or choose to replace the hardware that isn't supportable by the OS they want to run. Thank you LSI and Dell. LSI cards seem to work fine. -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:57:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7037C16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:57:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05D343D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:57:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so560421rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:57:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=j0WTi8G8ZTORjVl1j+8TcF+pCg30lxgkPFZeaMvyiwxRxMd8tDKQuO+czZtO5ZnS5GKfBxFKQhOtjQDb8ZyIylxZjQ6y1xMsQI96fuXGJo2JDP7TM9FuXgRPepq8mzOxrM3zr5soUMKb8/DnI7bkX0santxVkLEk7LMmOMesxWY= Received: by 10.38.12.26 with SMTP id 26mr3503648rnl; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:57:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319125764c86e66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:57:14 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5d683828050319125144d78223@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <18f601940503191222d7aa2ec@mail.gmail.com> <423C8AA7.8010104@samsco.org> <5d683828050319125144d78223@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:57:15 -0000 Sorry, forgot you guys too! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Crawford Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:51:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support To: Scott Long Cc: Aaron Glenn , Adam , Theo de Raadt , misc@openbsd.org, "Richardson, Doug" So is this Adaptec's official stance? They don't care about a community that aquires for over 1,800 Adaptec raid controllers? I believe that's only AAC raid controllers, not to mention all the other ones Adaptec offers. If they don't care about us, then I've officially closed my doors perminetly on Adaptec, and will NEVER buy another Adaptec product. I will also do everything in my power to make sure any company I work for NEVER buys one either. Why should I care about a hardware vendor that doesn't care about me, the customer? So long Adaptec. Jason On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:25:11 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Aaron Glenn wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > > > >>Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights > >>by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything > >>that you want? > > > > > > We go along willingly, thank you. > > > > When I deploy something in production I do my very best not to > > compromise and settle. Yeah, compromise is a part of life...blah blah. > > Why should I compromise when there are alternatives? Why should I > > continue to buy and use Adaptec products when there are alternatives? > > Why does Adaptec think it can get away with simply ignoring customers? > > Are we asking for the moon here? Other companies don't have to hide > > behind NDA's on simple things like RAID management software - why does > > Adaptec? > > > > > > aaron.glenn > > Why do you think Adaptec should care about an OS that only has a small > fraction of a market share compared to Windows and Linux, and a leader > who likes to antagonize everyone? Not that FreeBSD is much bigger, but > I'm thrilled that they let me work on the driver and port the apps. I > would have been happy to share if asked. > > Scott > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:59:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB2916A4D5 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DFD43D58 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2JKwri14501; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:58:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503192058.j2JKwri14501@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tedm@toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:58:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Ted Mittelstaedt" at Mar 19, 2005 01:14:42 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "\"\"\"Marco Greene \(ML\)\"\"\"" Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:09 -0000 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu] > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: Jerry McAllister; ""Marco Greene (ML)""; > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt > > > > > > > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement is defined as the status quo, so it's > > > impossible for it to destroy itself (except perhaps by apathy) > > > > The status quo is that not many people care. > > Not true, based on the heavy response on this issue on the mailing lists > every time it comes up. Oh come on. All that noise is from the same eight or ten people, while the thousands just ignore it and hope it will go away. > > The ultra-pro-beastie movement can destroy itself just like the other > > side by being so strident that they offend the status quo and majority > > and incite a dump-it movement just to show they won't be abused by > > either religious fringe - since the ultra-pro-beastie group seems to > > be the loudest and most narrowly beamed one at the moment. > > Uh, huh, and pigs can fly if you put wings on 'em. Well, those of extreme religious involvement in the subject are waiting with high expectation. ////jerry > > Ted > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C04B16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E5343D5C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bnonn@orcon.net.nz) Received: from saffron (60-234-131-84.bitstream.orcon.net.nz [60.234.131.84]) j2JL07Bj010361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:00:07 +1200 From: Bnonn To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List In-Reply-To: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:59:26 +1200 Message-Id: <1111265966.30772.160.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/774/Sat Mar 19 14:04:06 2005 on dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:59:32 -0000 Theo, I'd like to make a comment as a new user in this community: I think BSD is great. I don't care what flavor you're talking about; I think they're great. I use FreeBSD, but I have great respect for OpenBSD and the others, and it was a hard choice deciding which to run. However, when I see TOP_FREEBSD_MEMBER_1 saying "TOP_OPENBSD_MEMBER_1 is full of crap", and then TOP_OPEN_BSD_MEMBER_1 comes back and says "How dare you" and starts antagonizing TOP_FREEBSD_MEMBER_1 (on the FreeBSD mailing list, in fact; in full view of everyone, instead of privately), it makes me wonder, how the hell is this community ever going to get taken seriously? Heck, how's it going to keep going if the top members are volatile, vitriolic children who can't keep personal attacks out of what should be a purely technical or philosophical debate? So, for love of all that's civil, do you think you could tone it down a bit, or at least take your personal hatred of each other out of a public mailing list where it has no place? Yeah, I know, "You're new here, aren't you " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:04:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78CE16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:04:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791AF43D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:04:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so494080rna for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:04:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZZwUeMW/FqjZ8pWC0h84V8u2+FKgTIReeVOhKjNN0Pl0vyfFDZPfQn0WDuGBON+KV8BBH/i1Z18+xVNHEQMycm5Khe2zpY4NOgp0KeWy3s4qGaoYha4fskrP3I+0QZXAaHli/DVwWbAnqH6HUz5vCuJAlSkXsQmfbABGbn1VEvU= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr3506888rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:04:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:04:11 -0000 I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:09:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBD616A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:09:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dtd.be (www.dtd.be [217.145.35.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2578343D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:09:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thierry@deval.be) Received: from [192.168.2.128] (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by dtd.be (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2JK4GOo007305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: <423C951C.30807@deval.be> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:09:48 +0100 From: Thierry Deval User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050319) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: misc@openbsd.org References: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: scottl@samsco.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:09:57 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If >> Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had >> better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware >> of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair >> this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their >> controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. > > ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as some > sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope the > other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being counterproductive > and harmful to your users. > > Otherwise, you're likely to discover that most people choose to run an > OS which works with the hardware they have, rather than sticking with > OpenBSD. Well, I have to step up here... As a developer, I totally support Theo's threat to remove support for aac(4). If the hardware cannot be functionally used with all it's features, we cannot tell we support it. Especially when there are still bugs impeding reliability and that we cannot guarantee on improving it because we don't have any supporting documentation. Concerning the driver removal for release, I just did that for FireWire support because I didn't want to lie to our users. As it was unreliable and that it didn't support a minimum set of devices, I preferred removing that unmaintained code... This doesn't mean it will never be supported, but just not now. For aac(4), if we don't get more than distant future promises, why should we tempt our users in buying some hardware that could make them loose fortunes in data because they will not be notified of disk failures ? We don't have to take that responsibility... \\Thierry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:11:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B816A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca (bofh.cns.ualberta.ca [129.128.11.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 610E743D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca) Received: (qmail 6876 invoked by uid 12187); 19 Mar 2005 21:11:22 -0000 Resent-From: beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:11:22 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <20050319211122.GJ22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:16 -0700 From: Bob Beck To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050319203016.GF22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Long , Adam , Theo de Raadt , misc@openbsd.org References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:24 -0000 > you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's > wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and > yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me > tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll > ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results. > Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights > by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything > that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. Actually Scott it's rather simple, As long as projects are willing to have someone sign an NDA and be a shill for the vendors, you end up with vendors who wish to hide everything behind an NDA and produce binary only stuff. I as a user don't want that, and plain and simple, I just bought 27 LSI cards for that reason - I don't want to wait for non-free support to show up, and I don't want to have to wedge in some binary only thing after the fact. I want it to work with the OS, and be installed with it. When vendors have the option to close their product and have some few designated souls who will act as their shills and put in a non-free layer for a free os, then they don't release docs, and everyone suffers with poor support - with a driver that doesn't work by default in the OS, because it can't be included. With a driver that isn't redistributable in commercial spinoffs, because it can't be included. With a driver that I can't install onto, because it can't be included on the install sets. Basically, the binary only closed source nda stuff sucks, just like the altheros driver. I don't see supporting a verdor making a decision to NDA their product by finding ways to sneak non-free support in as productive, Actually, I see that this harms the free community, and harms it an awful lot. because now this vendor instead of providing documentation so the free community can truly have community support for this product, gets to pay lip service to the free os world and say "sure we are supported by free operating systems" when really they aren't. Involving the user community makes sure the user community knows what the score is, and knows what products to buy (case in point, my recent purchase of 27 LSI adapters, rather than Adaptec). I think letting the user community believe that a company is fully supportive of free operating systems when they really are not is dishonest to the user community, and screws them in the end when they make bad purchasing decisions. I think a company has every right to have a closed source, binary only driver. I think the user community has the right to know about that, ask for better, and if they don't like it, know to vote with their feet. I for one don't want to see a situation where I can't install an OS on a scsi controller without resorting to 3rd party special license packages, or at least, not on a controller I've paid good money for. -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:11:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA8C16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca (bofh.cns.ualberta.ca [129.128.11.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68C1543D53 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca) Received: (qmail 9824 invoked by uid 12187); 19 Mar 2005 21:11:50 -0000 Resent-From: beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:11:50 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <20050319211150.GK22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:02:05 -0700 From: Bob Beck To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050319210205.GI22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Long , Adam , Theo de Raadt , misc@openbsd.org References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <20050319203016.GF22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> <423C8BFF.6060500@samsco.org> <20050319203712.GG22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> <423C8FF9.3020808@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C8FF9.3020808@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:11:52 -0000 > Sorry, I got suckered into a side argument about why the kernel driver > in OpenBSD sucks. Yes, the management app is closed, but the driver is > open. And if the OpenBSD driver sucks and people want it to stop > crashing and don't want to go beating their heads against the wall at > Adaptec asking for driver specs, then they are welcome to come ask me > for info. My point is that I'm offering direct help in this area. My > suspicion is that political goals are more important than making the > driver work. > A driver without the management portion of it is really crippled, it's incomplete, at that point, why run it? you're just asking to get hosed at the wrong time. While I appreciate the offer to help fix the half driver, we need the other half for it to be really something we should be including in GENERIC and telling users they should buy and run -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD6116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:22:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B769243D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:22:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6E8DF1C0016C for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:22:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 539871C00172 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:22:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050319212202342.539871C00172@mwinf0903.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:22:02 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:22:04 -0000 Christian Tischler writes: > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not > an consideration. For small installations, I don't think Exchange is really cost-effective. It's quite a monster. Easy to justify in a large organization where all IT projects are monsters, anyway, but expensive overkill in a small organization. Just set up standard SMTP/POP servers and go with that. Calendars and the like can be managed just by having employees talk to each other (in person, on the phone, or by e-mail). This is especially true if everyone is in the same geographic location. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:30:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B48F16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EE243D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147])j2JLU2wH014715; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2JLTxoF024348; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200503192050.j2JKoesb003713@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503192050.j2JKoesb003713@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:29:59 -0500 To: Theo de Raadt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:03 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Sigh. Theo, there are lots of ways of interacting with other people: >> if you go out of your way to antagonize somebody, the result is >> generally not going to be positive. I think Scott is mature enough to >> continue to help other BSD projects-- including OpenBSD-- regardless, >> but this sort of thing: > > No, Scott is the person standing in the way of us and the RAID > vendors by -- > > 1) insulting our (often very successful efforts) to free things -- > in public forums > > 2) by signing NDA's with vendors so that those vendors who then > come to believe that we should be signing NDA's too. Scott is or was under NDA with Adaptec. Scott certainly is not in a position to give away all of Adaptec's internal documentation. Frankly, I doubt even the CEO of Adaptec would be free to simply give away all of their internal docs-- Adaptec undoubtedly has NDA obligations with their partners, chip suppliers, and so forth, which constrains what they can make public. None of this should be surprising. None of this means that Scott wants you to sign NDAs. It may be the case that _Adaptec_ wants an NDA before releasing the information you've asked for, in which case you can accept or refuse to do so as you please. Scott != Adaptec. > 3) by not insisting at all that vendors open things at least a > bit, Scott is not like Bill Paul or others who have opened > up a lot of hardware, but is a lot more like Sam Leffler who > has perpetuated this (and today, FreeBSD has one 802.11g/a > driver -- and it uses binary bits). Yes, well, I prefer the former approach myself, but I am not going to complain that Sam has written a wireless driver using binary firmware rather than one that is completely open. I appreciate the work he's done, even if I would like to see a completely open series of wireless drivers. >> ...deliberately breaking OpenBSD's support for Adaptec hardware as >> some >> sort of ultimatum is a childish and self-destructive action. I hope >> the other OpenBSD committers veto any such action as being >> counterproductive and harmful to your users. > > Counter productive? About 6 years ago we did this with Qlogic because > their firmware images were not free enough to ship in our releases, > and after 6 months of wasting our time and being stalemated, we > informed Qlogic and our user community (as well as YOUR user > community) that we were removing the support for their controllers. A > few days later the firmware was free. Getting into a fight and winning is better than getting into a fight and losing. However, perhaps you might consider that if you can obtain what you want without getting into needless conflicts, we'd all spend our time doing more productive things than squabbling. > But now Scott --- one of your leading developers, and a previous > Adaptec > employee --- goes public and says that our efforts should not be > assisted. > > What's in it for him? It must be a conspiracy, huh? A paranoic could come up with all sorts of nefarious reasons, but the truth is probably much more prosaic. >> Otherwise, you're likely to discover that most people choose to run an >> OS which works with the hardware they have, rather than sticking with >> OpenBSD. > > We have no problem. People run non-free software all the time, such > as Windows or the FreeBSD binary-only aaccli. > > It does not fit our principles though. But Scott feels that is reason > to slag us. I very much doubt that Scott was "slagging you" in reaction to OpenBSD's desire to remain completely pure open source. I hope you and the OpenBSD developers can get the information you need to work with all of the hardware that your project wants to support. But the hardware vendors aren't obligated to meet your demands, any more than you are obligated to sign an NDA that you don't want to sign. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:30:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1076B43D48 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so601185rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KH/V6RwJ4HQATSgeYofETJrAGmHZIxtONugdKX4/yFzyla6dlpo6A20Bcb0X+jdjaWNT8tDwxC0KTX51NKwllBBNHZZVvFo9CE43vJ04gZWJy5MTfv1KVlN6OoHWEfiNNQr8Ee8Ru0MtZ90COHz9epB2nQ2xiUa2emgo9ZUdr5E= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3493527rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319133013f5a16e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:30:54 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <423C8BFF.6060500@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <20050319203016.GF22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> <423C8BFF.6060500@samsco.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:55 -0000 The fact that the management utiltiy it uses is closed binary-only-can't-distrubute type of utility, means it can't be used by anyone who really cares about stability of their system, development, or who just loves freedom. And won't be used by this community which accounts for over 1,800 adaptec AAC raid controllers alone, along with probably lots of other Adaptec hardware that won't be upgraded to future Adaptec prodcuts. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:55 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Bob Beck wrote: > >>you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's > >>wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and > >>yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me > >>tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll > >>ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results. > >>Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights > >>by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything > >>that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > >>companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > >>the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > >>pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. > > > > > > Actually Scott it's rather simple, > > > > As long as projects are willing to have someone sign an NDA > > and be a shill for the vendors, you end up with vendors who wish to hide > > everything behind an NDA and produce binary only stuff. I as a user > > don't want that, and plain and simple, I just bought 27 LSI cards for > > that reason - I don't want to wait for non-free support to show up, and > > I don't want to have to wedge in some binary only thing after the fact. > > I want it to work with the OS, and be installed with it. > > > > When vendors have the option to close their product and have > > some few designated souls who will act as their shills and put in a > > non-free layer for a free os, then they don't release docs, and everyone > > suffers with poor support - with a driver that doesn't work by default > > in the OS, because it can't be included. With a driver that isn't > > redistributable in commercial spinoffs, because it can't be included. > > With a driver that I can't install onto, because it can't be included > > on the install sets. Basically, the binary only closed source nda stuff > > sucks, just like the altheros driver. > > > > I don't see supporting a verdor making a decision to NDA their > > product by finding ways to sneak non-free support in as productive, > > Actually, I see that this harms the free community, and harms it an > > awful lot. because now this vendor instead of providing documentation > > so the free community can truly have community support for this product, > > gets to pay lip service to the free os world and say "sure we are > > supported by free operating systems" when really they aren't. > > > > Involving the user community makes sure the user community > > knows what the score is, and knows what products to buy (case in point, > > my recent purchase of 27 LSI adapters, rather than Adaptec). I think > > letting the user community believe that a company is fully supportive > > of free operating systems when they really are not is dishonest to the > > user community, and screws them in the end when they make bad purchasing > > decisions. > > > > I think a company has every right to have a closed source, > > binary only driver. I think the user community has the right to know > > about that, ask for better, and if they don't like it, know to vote > > with their feet. I for one don't want to see a situation where I can't > > install an OS on a scsi controller without resorting to 3rd party > > special license packages, or at least, not on a controller I've paid > > good money for. > > > > -Bob > > What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise > non-free? > > Scott > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:37:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4389216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87B443D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JLbRIK026873; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192137.j2JLbRIK026873@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:55 MST." <423C8BFF.6060500@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:27 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:14 -0000 > What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise > non-free? The bits that do management. Therefore, the bits that let it do what RAID controllers are meant to do. Can you fully operate an aac(4) card -- 100% of it's abilities, on a FreeBSD machine, without using a binary only tool downloaded from the Dell web site? Are you being obtuse on purpose? Why don't you admit it. FreeBSD relies on non-free binary code for Adaptec raid management. You can't even put it onto a FreeBSD distribution CD. Why do you keep discussing the free stuff, and distracting everyone from the non-free bits? Is it because you used to work for Adaptec? Are you paid to distract people from the non-free code? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:41:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A693816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:41:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD7D43D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:41:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2JLf0b18402; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:41:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Theo de Raadt" , "Scott Long" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:40:50 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200503192035.j2JKZKOM018459@cvs.openbsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:41:12 -0000 Theo and Scott, a few words: Theo: I happen to own a system that runs FreeBSD and uses an Adaptec AAA card, here's the dmesg: ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x40400000-0x407fffff,0x40100000-0x40100fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 RAID functionality unsupported device_probe_and_attach: ahc0 attach returned 6 ahc0: port 0x1400-0x14ff mem 0x40000000-0x40000fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci2 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs Adaptec has been unwilling to provide support for the parity calculator for this card, so it's RAID functionality is useless. The situation is very similar to the AAC card, worse in fact since there's not even a poor out-of-date binary substitute driver. HOWEVER, PLEASE keep in mind that I did NOT go out and buy this machine, did not direct money to be spent on this abomination. I inherited this machine which used to be a Windows server, and I have made the best use of what I had available. I HAVE other SCSI cards, but all of them aren't LVD SCSI, and the disk pack on this server is LVD SCSI drives. So to support these disks with a native RAID card I would have to go buy a new card - which isn't cost-justified for an old server. I understand your concern that leaving a half-a-driver in the OpenBSD GENERIC kernel might in fact encourage people to reward Adaptec by continuing to buy their products. I am a very strong supporter of the idea of people NOT purchasing products that don't have full FreeBSD support. But I must insist that this ISN'T true. If you want to discourage people from buying Adaptec products then PUT THAT RECOMMENDATION RIGHT IN THE HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY LIST. And make doubly damn sure that this list is at MOST, a SINGLE click away from the OpenBSD homepage. I assure you that whenever I purchase products or approve products for purchase at the ISP I work at, that I make sure they have native mode drivers for FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris AND Linux, even if they are being purchased for use as Windows servers. You never know in a machine's lifespan what your going to end up using it for. Crippled drivers like the AAC driver, and the AAA shim support for my RAID card, fulfill a vital purpose, they facilitate migration from Windows platforms for older servers. Period. Nobody with any serious budget for a server who is setting out to build an OpenBSD or FreeBSD server, is going to go against the Hardware Compatibility List when selecting components. So, your decision to pull the AAC support does only one thing - it makes it so that people who want to use OpenBSD on Windows servers, cannot do it. Thus it delays the migration of those servers away from Windows. Now, for Scott: Scott, put a God-Damned sock in it. Adaptec has had a LONG history of non-cooperation with the Open Source community. Back when FreeBSD 1.x was going, Adaptec stalled for years with information with the 2740 card, and we were all stuck with using 1740 cards in our EISA servers. And finally someone had to port over the Linux driver for the 2740 which had been reverse-engineered as I recall, Adaptec never gave us any support for it until after the thing had been figured out. WHERE THE HELL is my AAA-131 driver if Adaptec as you assert they are so friendly? And Theo has done a case-winning explanation of how the AAC driver is crippled. YOU have not done a SINGLE thing to respond to ANY of the specific explanations of Theo's. If you are such a big man, then overlook his shrillness and provide a technical explanation of each of his technical points. I don't spec Adaptec SCSI parts that don't have native FreeBSD drivers, and right now, only the older Adaptec cards do. So, great, I can get my old SCSI cards off Ebay, out of the bargain bins at Goodwill, and the computer junk stores. Fat lot of good that does Adaptec. Money for NEW stuff ain't going to Adaptec. Instead their stonewalling simply makes their older shit more valuable, which undercuts their market for their new shit. And it's not like Adaptec isn't the market leader anyway, frankly if the SCSI market wasn't a niche market, they would be up against the Feds on anti-trust charges now. So who the HELL do they have to fear if they are giving out what they regard as proprietary data? NOBODY. Adaptec doesen't cooperate because their corporate culture is sick, it's because they are a bunch of power-grasping micromanagers that have a gigantic NIH attitude, and an inferiority complex a mile high. They don't release data because when they make mistakes they don't want people finding out about them. I've had inexplicible crashes on my Adaptec stuff in the past, very rarely that happens, but every once in a few years it does. And there's others that have posted here very recently, within the last few weeks in fact, who have had much worse trouble. You go ask Anthony Atkielski and Leroy van Logchem their opinions of how great their FreeBSD Adaptec drivers are performing on their hardware, you don't get this rosy picture that you seem to like to paint. Both of them posted problems in the FreeBSD questions forum recently and I didn't see you responding to either of them. It is inexcusable for a hardware vendor to not provide programming specs. PC hardware has always been sold in the past based on marketing and positioning, for all the bake-offs and such that are held claiming one chipset is better than another, the market leaders in hardware are the ones that cut OEM deal after OEM deal. That is how Adaptec got as big as they are, and there's been plenty of times in the past that their competitors have had faster and better product. And their competitors have spent the enormous sums to reverse-engineer the Adaptec products anyway to find out all the go-fast tricks. Denying programming specs does not in any way help to shield their hardware secrets from competitors, all it does it make it impossible to write open source drivers, and it hides any dumb mistakes they made in designing their hardware. Adaptec has a LONG way to go before they are a friend of the Open Source movement. Ted Mittelstaedt Author, The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Theo de Raadt > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:35 PM > To: Scott Long > Cc: Jason Crawford; misc@openbsd.org; Adam; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > > It's not a binary driver, it's a 2-clause BSD licensed driver that > > contains full source. You said that the OpenBSD driver is unstable, > > so I offered to help. That has nothing to do with binary apps. > > Deleting it from the OpenBSD tree is always an option, of course. > > The driver is free, but the tool is a binary. The interface "tunnel" > is coded in the driver, so that the "closed binary" tool can talk > through to the card. The messages exchanged are not documented, > either. > > Same thing. > > You are saying > > There are open bits > > and I am saying > > There are closed bits > > This whole thing is about the closed bits, not about the open bits. > > > Why do you keep apologizing for Adaptec, and attacking our efforts? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:44:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F162916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:44:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca (bofh.cns.ualberta.ca [129.128.11.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DD1443D48 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca) Received: (qmail 19768 invoked by uid 12187); 19 Mar 2005 21:44:07 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:44:07 -0700 From: Bob Beck To: Bram Van Dam Message-ID: <20050319214407.GL22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> <18f601940503191216685b2e16@mail.gmail.com> <423C8CD3.4010004@pandora.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C8CD3.4010004@pandora.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:44:09 -0000 > Of course, sooner or later someone will kindly point them in the > direction of electronic documentation, in which case I'm sure they'll > come up with the "oops, our Acrobat licence expired"-excuse. Your flippant reply, doesn't illustrate the source of the real problem. Companies in the U.S. are driven by two things, Public customer feedback, and a collection of Lawyers, Accounants, Marketing Types, and other Feather Merchants. Normally the second collection of idiots decides what the company should be doing based on it's notion of whatever they can do to achieve "customer traction" - the best description of what that is is the friction between the customers knees and elbows and the floor when they're in a favorable position for the company. Companies taken over by this sort of evil will inevitably do as little as possible, and release as little as possible, unless forced. they know they have ot at least pay lip service to free software, but now the latest trend is to find a willing shill who will sign an NDA, produce a "binary only" layer so they don't have to release full documentation, Why? because their lawyers and marketing types don't think it's important, and won't, ever, unless customers say so. Otherwise sane people in the company will be unable or unwilling to fight the pit vipers unless there is ammunition from the commnity to support it. Projects welcoming support for hardware that can only be supported in this way encourage this sort of thing continuing. While I understant and empathize with the attitude of a developer who wants to do this to help people whose hardware otherwise wouldn't work at all, making support work partially, or via NDA, removes the pressure from the company to release stuff so their hardware is supportable. The "free" os can now say that it supports it, so the users think they are happier. The company can now pay lip service publicly to say "we support free os's" - the fact that they really don't is completely lost on the customers. Who loses? the free software community as a whole. OpenBSD has a definate stance againse this sort of binary only layer support. FreeBSD now seems to be incorporating binary only support into it's kernel, which is kind of sad, but that's their choice. I think customers of these companies need to stand up and be counted to say that they don't like hardware that can only be fully supported under NDA. Only vocal customer feedback lets the sane people within a company fight the lawyers and other bottom feeders to do the right thing. I think people should be asking if they want to use hardware like this, and if they really want it supported by default. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with a piece of hardware that says "NDA only - run windows, or a particular version of linux that you can load our driver on". But I don't think a free OS should encourage this by including support for this, so users think they are buying supported hardware when they really are buying a ball and chain. -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:45:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B42E16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A7743D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JLiqB1046400; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:44:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <423C9CDB.50709@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:42:51 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Theo de Raadt References: <200503192137.j2JLbRIK026873@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200503192137.j2JLbRIK026873@cvs.openbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:45:44 -0000 Theo de Raadt wrote: >>What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise >>non-free? > > > The bits that do management. > > Therefore, the bits that let it do what RAID controllers are meant to do. > > Can you fully operate an aac(4) card -- 100% of it's abilities, on a > FreeBSD machine, without using a binary only tool downloaded from the > Dell web site? > > Are you being obtuse on purpose? > > Why don't you admit it. FreeBSD relies on non-free binary code for > Adaptec raid management. Yes, I admit this. And people thank me all the time for it. > > You can't even put it onto a FreeBSD distribution CD. > > Why do you keep discussing the free stuff, and distracting everyone > from the non-free bits? > > Is it because you used to work for Adaptec? Are you paid to distract > people from the non-free code? No, but you're paranoid and refusing help. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:48:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CD016A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8149643D53 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2JLmgb18440; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:48:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Charles Swiger" , "Theo de Raadt" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:48:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: Sean Hafeez cc: Scott Long cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles Swiger > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:30 PM > To: Theo de Raadt > Cc: misc@openbsd.org; Scott Long; Sean Hafeez; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Scott is or was under NDA with Adaptec. Scott certainly is not in a > position to give away all of Adaptec's internal documentation. > Frankly, I doubt even the CEO of Adaptec would be free to simply give > away all of their internal docs-- Adaptec undoubtedly has NDA > obligations with their partners, chip suppliers, and so forth, which > constrains what they can make public. > This is bullcrap. Adaptec is quite obviously the single largest customer of any of those chip partners. If they told those partners they wern't going to sign an NDA those partners would say "How high do you want me to jump, sir" > But the hardware vendors aren't obligated to meet your demands, This is also bullcrap. The hardware vendors are obligated to support THEIR customers who have bought product from them. Some of those customers want to run OpenBSD. Therefore the hardware vendors are obligated to get off their fat asses and work with the OpenBSD people regardless of how they may personally like or dislike them. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:48:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632C516A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2078343D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JLn4x3007350; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:49:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192149.j2JLn4x3007350@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:42:37 MST." <423C8EBD.9000906@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:49:04 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Aaron Glenn cc: Adam Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 -0000 > I'll heartily agree that there is little reason for any company to > keep information like this closed. Yet you are not helping. > But going around making personal > attacks on company employees that don't give you the cookie you want > is pretty shitty too. Then I guess that Doug Richardson made a pretty big mistake over the last 6 months by not letting us talk to whoever pulls the strings. He said I was talking to the person who could and would change things. So you are talking out of your ass, Scott. There is no personal attack happening against Doug Richardson. We have simply found the conduit for users to express their grievances. As they say: The best customer is the one who complains. Well I have done the discovery process to find out where the customers can complain. To Doug Richardson. Not to some front line Adaptec apologist who cannot add up the controllers being mentioned and realize that 1,800 controllers so far is a hell of a lot of money, and that now that this is being discussed in public, they had better solve this. And how many more people have learned from this and will avoid Adaptec products? (perhaps these circles where it is being discusssed is on the fringe, but people in this fringe circle buy or are involved in the purchases for a LOT of hardware. Much like if Cisco fucks up and someone brings note of it to NANOG. Then Cisco jumps. If Adaptec does not jump now, Adaptec is retarded.) Scott, do you own Adaptec stock? I just cannot explain why you would attack me, and apologize for Adaptec's behaviour. Are you on drugs? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:53:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF4116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:53:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67143D46 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:53:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2JLrVb18467; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bob Beck" , "Bram Van Dam" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:53:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050319214407.GL22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:53:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bob Beck > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:44 PM > To: Bram Van Dam > Cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: aac support > > > > > Of course, sooner or later someone will kindly point them in the > > direction of electronic documentation, in which case I'm > sure they'll > > come up with the "oops, our Acrobat licence expired"-excuse. > > Your flippant reply, doesn't illustrate the source of the real > problem. Companies in the U.S. are driven by two things, Public > customer feedback, and a collection of Lawyers, Accounants, Marketing > Types, and other Feather Merchants. Normally the second collection of > idiots decides what the company should be doing based on it's notion > of whatever they can do to achieve "customer traction" - the best > description of what that is is the friction between the customers > knees and elbows and the floor when they're in a favorable position > for the company. > > Companies taken over by this sort of evil will inevitably > do as little as possible, and release as little as possible, unless > forced. they know they have ot at least pay lip service to free > software, but now the latest trend is to find a willing shill who > will sign an NDA, produce a "binary only" layer so they don't have > to release full documentation, Why? because their lawyers and marketing > types don't think it's important, and won't, ever, unless customers > say so. Otherwise sane people in the company will be unable or > unwilling to fight the pit vipers unless there is ammunition from > the commnity to support it. > Bob, Your missing something. One of the big reasons the companies want to have NDA's and binary-only drivers is because they know that a binary driver may break with future versions of the OS. So eventually the new version of FreeBSD will have some internal change that breaks AAC support, and the developer that had the NDA for AAC support won't be around any longer, and that card will then become worthless. And so then the userbase has to go buy a new card. And the cycle repeats all over again. How many people have basements full of boxes of perfectly good hardware peripherals that work just a good as the brand new peripherals, but they can't use because the manufacturer didn't release drivers for the new OSes? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:00:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125E216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:00:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AE943D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:00:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2JM13b18500; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:01:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bnonn" , "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:00:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1111265966.30772.160.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:00:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bnonn > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:59 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Theo, I'd like to make a comment as a new user in this community: > > I think BSD is great. I don't care what flavor you're talking about; I > think they're great. I use FreeBSD, but I have great respect > for OpenBSD > and the others, and it was a hard choice deciding which to run. > > However, when I see TOP_FREEBSD_MEMBER_1 saying > "TOP_OPENBSD_MEMBER_1 is > full of crap", and then TOP_OPEN_BSD_MEMBER_1 comes back and says "How > dare you" and starts antagonizing TOP_FREEBSD_MEMBER_1 (on the FreeBSD > mailing list, in fact; in full view of everyone, instead of privately), > it makes me wonder, how the hell is this community ever going to get > taken seriously? If this didn't happen, Bnonn, every once in a while I WOULDN'T take EITHER of them seriously. > > Yeah, I know, "You're new here, aren't you " :-) Everyone is new every once is a while. The fact that both of them care enough to get mad about it proves that they have what it takes to sit down and produce something usable. The people that don't care enough to get riled up, are the kinds of clock-punchers who's work will never amount to anything. Why do you think that Microsoft's stuff is so poor? Most of the people working there care about personal job security, health insurance, compensation, sabatticals and other perks first. The actual products they are working on come far down on the list in importance. That is why you will never see a Microsoft developer make these kinds of personal attacks on a mailing list. They simply don't really give a damn. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:05:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E4816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:05:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F55543D53 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JM5dgk024696; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:05:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192205.j2JM5dgk024696@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:40:56 MST." <423C8E58.60605@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:05:39 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: todd@fries.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:05:29 -0000 > I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. You are insulting me on public lists. You are, thus, also telling your users not to bother your beloved Adaptec. You're telling them what the binary which you worked on is the best they are going to get. > I'm enabling FreeBSD > users to use the resources that are available to them. By attacking my efforts, you are telling them that the aaccli you worked on is the best they are going to get, and that participating with what I am doing is foolish. > That's quite > different than cancelling developer work and threatening to remove a > driver due to a political dispute. The driver is not shipping because traction must be gained against a vendor who you are apologizing for. > Freedom isn't about coercing others > to believe the same things that I believe. Freedom is something one fights for. Freedom is not something that just happens. Freedom is something that happens when someone puts their toes out there, with a stance, an attempt, a struggle. Freedom is not something that happens when Scott long makes apologies for Adaptec and slags Theo on public sites ... when Theo decides to use his project to take action against non-freedom from a vendor. I am trying to do something to create greater freedom. You are not helping with my effort. Nor are you are not standing on the sidelines. You're FIGHTING ME. You are on Adaptec's closed side. > I personally don't care about Adaptec anymore, but I do care about the > people there. More than you care about getting the best freedom for FreeBSD or *BSD, or about the *other* people in the FreeBSD who might want that effort. No. You would rather stand up for the people at Adaptec. > If LSI or whoever else can provide better support, then > that's fine with me. I do however have quite a bit of experience in > knowing how things work at Adaptec and knowing what compromises can be > made. Then help me. Don't slag me. > Adaptec isn't one person, it isn't Doug Richardson or any other > single individual. They do make a whole lot of stupid mistakes and > close doors on opportunities, but there is no reason to vilify Doug > for it. Then help me. I am not vilifying Doug. Doug said we should go through him. Now he's getting mails from people, because he said we should go THROUGH HIM. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:14:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FB716A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:14:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F4B43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:14:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (utdvpn084053.utdallas.edu [129.110.84.53]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6192389268; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:13:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:13:55 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Francis Whittington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1111248835@[192.168.2.101]> In-Reply-To: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> References: <000601c52ca9$b2276ab0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:14:01 -0000 --On Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:32 PM -0500 Francis Whittington wrote: > Hello All, > I just finished installing fbsd for the 8th time. I just want to get > it up and running so I can start learning to use it . I have not gotten X > to work yet on the bsd box yet....except when I used an old 4MB card. But > X was too slow. Here is my setup now: My main computer is WinXP > (because the rest of the family uses it). It is connected to Adelphia > cable modem via a D-Link, DI-524 wireless router. My Daughter is > connected to internet via the WLAN. My freeBSD box is connected to modem > via a crossover cable. bsd box has 96MB of RAM, Riva-TNT 16MB videocard > on a intel 440 EX MoBo. I was going to use the bsd box as a > router/firewall, but i don't know enough yet...so it is just a stand > alone station. My problem right now is that I want to be able to see the > rest of the network from the bsd box. I cannot ping the other 2 machines. > And without X, I am not sure what to use to see if I am hitting internet > with it. Yeah...I know i'm a newbie. > any thoughts _______________________________________________ A few. Pick up a good book on Unix and start reading. Go online and read networking HOW-TO documents. Pay particular attention to the networking sections that explain how to set up network cards, gateways and routes. You don't need X to run the box *if* you know and understand the commands. Ifconfig will tell you the condition of your networking - whether or not a card is "up", what its settings are. Read the man page for rc.conf. You configure your cards there. If you're connected directly to the same modem that the Win XP box is connected to, you *should* be able to see the Win XP box if you have your network set up correctly. X is an whole 'nother kettle of fish, even for experienced folks. See if you can find a friend who knows X well enough to get you started. You can run x86config from the commandline and often get X working well enough to start it up, but you'll really need help to get it working right until you've got a little more experience under your belt. Join a local users group, if you can find one. Even a Linux users group would help. There isn't that much difference between most *nix OSes wrt the basic settings and how they work. It's going to take some reading and work to get going, but it's well worth it. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F916A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:15:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca (bofh.cns.ualberta.ca [129.128.11.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E525E43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:15:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca) Received: (qmail 30456 invoked by uid 12187); 19 Mar 2005 22:15:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:15:47 -0700 From: Bob Beck To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050319221547.GN22961@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Long , todd@fries.net, Theo de Raadt , Sean Hafeez , misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <1111264576.25785.10.camel@blue.fries.net> <423C8E58.60605@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C8E58.60605@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: todd@fries.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:15:48 -0000 > I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. I'm enabling FreeBSD > users to use the resources that are available to them. That's quite > different than cancelling developer work and threatening to remove a > driver due to a political dispute. Freedom isn't about coercing others > to believe the same things that I believe. Actually Scott, there's exactly the problem. While I'm sure you think that providing a binary only management tool helps FreeBSD users who have this hardware, I think it's rather the opposite. Let me put it in another light: Let's say an ethernet card vendor closes off and puts under NDA the interface to their card's control mechanisms. you can have a free driver to recieve and send packets, but in order to set an address, or configure the card, you can't use ifconfig, you have to use a proprietary binary only program that can't be included with the OS, and doesn't work on anything but i386. Would having support in there for that particular ethernet card, and encouraging users to buy more of them really be helping FreeBSD users in the long run, or hurting them? Or perhaps it would it be helping the vendor's lawyers to have ammunition to keep documentation from being released, and hurting the user community in the long run. -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:17:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A6D16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0143D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:17:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2JMH4u2046573; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:17:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <423CA467.9050804@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:15:03 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Theo de Raadt References: <200503192205.j2JM5dgk024696@cvs.openbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200503192205.j2JM5dgk024696@cvs.openbsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: todd@fries.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:17:58 -0000 Theo de Raadt wrote: >>I'm not stuffing anything down anyone's throats. > > > You are insulting me on public lists. > > You are, thus, also telling your users not to bother your beloved > Adaptec. > > You're telling them what the binary which you worked on is the best > they are going to get. > > >>I'm enabling FreeBSD >>users to use the resources that are available to them. > > > By attacking my efforts, you are telling them that the aaccli you > worked on is the best they are going to get, and that participating > with what I am doing is foolish. > > >>That's quite >>different than cancelling developer work and threatening to remove a >>driver due to a political dispute. > > > The driver is not shipping because traction must be gained against a > vendor who you are apologizing for. > > >>Freedom isn't about coercing others >>to believe the same things that I believe. > > > Freedom is something one fights for. Freedom is not something that > just happens. > > Freedom is something that happens when someone puts their toes out there, > with a stance, an attempt, a struggle. > > Freedom is not something that happens when Scott long makes apologies > for Adaptec and slags Theo on public sites ... when Theo decides to > use his project to take action against non-freedom from a vendor. > > I am trying to do something to create greater freedom. You are not > helping with my effort. Nor are you are not standing on the sidelines. > You're FIGHTING ME. You are on Adaptec's closed side. > > >>I personally don't care about Adaptec anymore, but I do care about the >>people there. > > > More than you care about getting the best freedom for FreeBSD or *BSD, > or about the *other* people in the FreeBSD who might want that effort. > > No. You would rather stand up for the people at Adaptec. > > >>If LSI or whoever else can provide better support, then >>that's fine with me. I do however have quite a bit of experience in >>knowing how things work at Adaptec and knowing what compromises can be >>made. > > > Then help me. Don't slag me. > Then I'll return to my original statement and say that you never sought out my help. I don't follow OpenBSD, but I would have been happy to lend whatever help I could with resources and contacts if you had contacted me long ago. > >>Adaptec isn't one person, it isn't Doug Richardson or any other >>single individual. They do make a whole lot of stupid mistakes and >>close doors on opportunities, but there is no reason to vilify Doug >>for it. > > > Then help me. > > I am not vilifying Doug. Doug said we should go through him. Now he's > getting mails from people, because he said we should go THROUGH HIM. It's your standard tactic of, "hey everyone, so-and-so isn't meeting my demands on my timeline, so here's his email adress! Go and mailbomb him!" I think that Doug is doing everything that he can right now to satisfy not only OpenBSD, but everyone. However, it takes time, and just because he's not meeting your timeline doesn't mean that he's giving you the run around or that you should start making silly threats that will only hurt your users. I'm done with this thread. A closed binary managmeent app isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing. I worked on it because I knew the compromises I could make at the time and I wanted to give the FreeBSD community something for it. I don't have infinite time and resources to fight the noble causes like Theo does, and I think that cooperation and comprise are better in the long run than constant conflict. If Theo or anyone else wants help on making the kernel driver better, let me know. If they want to help Adaptec follow through on it's stated plan to release suitable tools in the near future, then stop antagonizing them and making silly threats. The shouting and the threats and all the other tripe reflect poorly on everyone, whether you choose to see it or not, and _that's_ what I oppose in Theo, not his passion for openness. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:19:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3616A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4C43D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JMJDb6025915; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:50:51 MST." <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ben Goren cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:01 -0000 > Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out > there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT > NOW. No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the > goals of getting the job done. If not having the source is a problem, > then that's your choice and you don't have to use it. But why deprive > people of a choice, like Theo wants. Freedom is about choice. FreeBSD users... watch how Scott argues against free software.. and cc's the person at Adaptec who he says we should not be mailing... oh boy.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC4B16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1039E43D3F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2JMLE3d024611; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2JMLBJM005004; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:21:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7ee3eea7bd5834be0664c3098fc27ae3@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:21:11 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:19 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Scott is or was under NDA with Adaptec. Scott certainly is not in a >> position to give away all of Adaptec's internal documentation. >> Frankly, I doubt even the CEO of Adaptec would be free to simply give >> away all of their internal docs-- Adaptec undoubtedly has NDA >> obligations with their partners, chip suppliers, and so forth, which >> constrains what they can make public. > > This is bullcrap. Adaptec is quite obviously the single largest > customer > of any of those chip partners. If they told those partners they wern't > going to sign an NDA those partners would say "How high do you want me > to jump, sir" You've a habit of confusing your opinions with factual data. While the process can be entertaining, you should be aware that it greatly inhibits the quality of your arguments. Tell me, who is bigger, Intel or Adaptec? I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Intel vis-a-vis the i860 chips used for hardware parity computation on some of their RAID cards, for example. I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Dell vis-a-vis the PERC 4 series, either. If you disagree, show me data proving otherwise, rather than hand-waving. >> But the hardware vendors aren't obligated to meet your demands, > > This is also bullcrap. The hardware vendors are obligated to support > THEIR customers who have bought product from them. Some of those > customers want to run OpenBSD. Therefore the hardware vendors are > obligated to get off their fat asses and work with the OpenBSD people > regardless of how they may personally like or dislike them. Hardware vendors publish software compatibility lists. They have an obligation to support their products on the systems they claim to support. They have no obligation to support their products when used on systems they do not claim to support. Of course, customers should avoid doing business with vendors who don't work with open standards, or provide adequate support for the systems those customers want to run. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:21:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7D216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD47943D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JMLwop030477; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:21:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192221.j2JMLwop030477@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:15:03 MST." <423CA467.9050804@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:21:57 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: todd@fries.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:21:47 -0000 > I'm done with this thread. A closed binary managmeent app isn't ideal, > but it's better than nothing. I worked on it because I knew the > compromises I could make at the time and I wanted to give the FreeBSD > community something for it. I don't have infinite time and resources > to fight the noble causes like Theo does, and I think that cooperation > and comprise are better in the long run than constant conflict. If > Theo or anyone else wants help on making the kernel driver better, > let me know. If they want to help Adaptec follow through on it's > stated plan to release suitable tools in the near future, then stop > antagonizing them and making silly threats. The shouting and the > threats and all the other tripe reflect poorly on everyone, whether > you choose to see it or not, and _that's_ what I oppose in Theo, not > his passion for openness. That's what you oppose? And then just moments earlier you send a mail (shown below) in which you SPECIFICALLY cc the people at Adaptec, and you SPECIFICALLY oppose freedom? Scott Long, you do not believe in either openness or freedom. This is a sad sad day for FreeBSD. -- Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:50:51 -0700 From: Scott Long To: Ben Goren CC: misc@openbsd.org, Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support Ben Goren wrote: > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:08 PM, Scott Long wrote: > >> Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights >> by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything >> that you want? > > > Granted, I don't use RAID on any system at the moment, and haven't used > Adaptec products in the past. But I would hardly consider having to halt > the machine to even check the status of the array ``stuff that works.'' > > Would you be happy flying in a plane in perfect mechanical > condition...except that all diagnostic gauges (fuel level, oil pressure > and temperature, fire detectors, hydraulic pressure, etc.) only worked > when the plane was stationary on the ground? Would you go on a > transoceanic flight in such a plane? > > All I can say is that I'm damned thankful Adaptec doesn't make aircraft > equipment, if this is what they think of as ``stuff that works.'' > > And if this *were* aircraft equipment we were talking about, would you > still be chiding people for being pinned down by political beliefs on > the subject? > > This discussion is doing nothing but proving two things: > > A) Adaptec is suffering from an astounding lack of professionalism; and > > ii) Theo's pride of craftsmanship is something sorely lacking in the > rest of the computing world. > > Cheers, > > b& Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT NOW. No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the goals of getting the job done. If not having the source is a problem, then that's your choice and you don't have to use it. But why deprive people of a choice, like Theo wants. Freedom is about choice. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 22:35:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:35:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9385143D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:35:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asolomon15@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so484145rnf for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C2pv7NNv1Sj3XxUzSDnfiz9XUm56nBweXe/CHVnom1ijLPdbjW5c3KNEfmSYTCnm2tyKR2ICc9IaVWu9yTiFag/iayMwKWengjfxODG7h3zImmAO41VynBRm1k+kXe139+TBOnvL56W2tXftmfxVob4TbBnxEXCCBfrWlDAxzrk= Received: by 10.38.208.17 with SMTP id f17mr1975432rng; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.22 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:35:41 -0500 From: Antoine Solomon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: compile problem of mozilla X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Antoine Solomon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:35:43 -0000 having a problem trying to compile mozilla-1.7.5_2,2 nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void nsFT2Type8Generator::GeneratePSFont(FILE*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'width' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'height' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src/ps' gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src' gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx' gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla. -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:03:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9840B16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:03:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C32843D2D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:03:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2JN36b18716; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Charles Swiger" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:02:56 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <7ee3eea7bd5834be0664c3098fc27ae3@mac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:03:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:21 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: misc@openbsd.org; Theo de Raadt; freebsd list > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Intel vis-a-vis the i860 chips > used for hardware parity computation on some of their RAID cards, for > example. I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Dell vis-a-vis the > PERC 4 series, either. > Whaat? Dell? The PERC 4 is an AMI device, Dell doesen't make chipsets they are an assembler. The amr driver supports it and is open, so obviously there was never an NDA there. And as for the i860, there's tons of programming docs on the Internet out there for it, once again, it's already open. > > >> But the hardware vendors aren't obligated to meet your demands, > > > > This is also bullcrap. The hardware vendors are obligated to support > > THEIR customers who have bought product from them. Some of those > > customers want to run OpenBSD. Therefore the hardware vendors are > > obligated to get off their fat asses and work with the OpenBSD people > > regardless of how they may personally like or dislike them. > > Hardware vendors publish software compatibility lists. They have an > obligation to support their products on the systems they claim to > support. They have no obligation to support their products when used > on systems they do not claim to support. > There is a difference between legally obligated and morally obligated. You were originally speaking on moral obligation, then switched to legal obligations. Naturally, if Adaptec claims support where none exists, that is fraud. But if Adaptec customers want to use their products on OpenBSD, that is still an obligation, while it may not be a legal one, it is definitely a moral one. Or are you arguing in favor of scrapping the customer is always right idea? All the people arguing with Theo against pulling AAC support from OpenBSD's generic kernel are doing so based on a moral obligation that they feel Theo has to his users, you cannot argue that he has a moral obligation and Adaptec does not. If anything, the moral obligation on Adaptec to work with OpenBSD is far higher than the moral obligation on Theo to work with Adaptec, because the Adaptec customers have paid Adaptec, the OpenBSD customers haven't paid Theo. > Of course, customers should avoid doing business with vendors > who don't > work with open standards, or provide adequate support for the systems > those customers want to run. > But customers also should tell those vendors why they are avoiding them, too. And vendors should state specifically why they refuse to support certain platforms. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:05:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C2516A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:05:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0A643D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:05:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so475713rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:05:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ldRYd/QUzzckKp9x87KBLgdOZMsw+ZhOua/1CJVlG92U0h1RzT56yH01UGArY1/t+xW6q7LU4XpIWtsmyEvLf1DAGs5zchpnx63syfcfxd7kAWrMMYwom5UzxTcZscWIcCeNEnhQ/9gA+gtboOMuMRtdaSOh28xK3gaaYk8L054= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr3334013rng; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:05:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:05:18 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: "em1897@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:05:19 -0000 Hello, On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Pavlica > To: em1897@aol.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question > > :em1897, > : I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP > :stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput > :than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. > :I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a Linux > :Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do > :have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough > :after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when > :it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the > :performance I need out of FreeBSD. > : > :--Nick > > on a side note, I thought top posting was a no-no? I see gmail has the > same issues as AOL. Or are the issues with the old farts with their > newsreaders? :-) > > I don't get your logic. You are converting your servers from 4.x to 5.4 > because you've found that 5.4 is faster than linux? Is that some sort > of riddle? FreeBSD has always been faster than linux; I'm comparing > FreeBSD 4.x to 5.4, so I'm not sure what linux has to do with > anything here. I guess I was a little vague :). I brought up Linux because you mentioned it in your earlier post, and wanted to share my results with it. Additionally, I have used Linux in many projects over the years and like to use it as a baseline of comparison. The point that I was trying to make was that I was getting good results with 5.4 in my tests. I have been pitting 4.x against 5.x since I began using FreeBSD for my projects. The 4.x series does have an excellent performance record that can't be questioned, however, 5.x gets the job done for me. > > What you can "get" in terms of throughput doesn't always give you > the right answer. My tests measure kernel performance; as I'm > interested in routing/packet-processing performance. Sockets add > a tricky variable. But I take the IP stack out of the equation > altogether > by bridging packets through a box, and I prefer to use a 50% load > as timings sometimes change when you start to saturate things > unnaturally. You won't be running your machine at 100% load, so > it makes no sense to test it that way. > > For the latest test I have a 3.06Ghz xeon bridging 486,000pps. > For FreeBSD 4.9, this is a 50% load. The load under 5.4 is 65%. > It tests interrupt and process switching performance, which for > a networking device is a key performance indicator. (I think) > that the 5.4 kernel is threaded, so there are latencies that > are very difficult to overcome. Linux has been threaded for > a long time, and always has been a poor Uniprocessor > performer. 5.4 is better than linux with one processor, > but if you are UP then > 4.x is clearly the way to go. Linux kills 5.4 with dual > processors; in fact 5.4 seems to have higher network > performance with 1 processor than 2. They still have > a lot of issues to work out. DragonflyBSD has done a > nice job with MP, but their performance is still a work > in progress. For UP, their performance is dismal so > its not quite where it needs to be, but its promising. > My tests are focused around simple network I/O and saturate all the other subsystems before making the kernel break a sweat, MP or UP. Curiously, all of my tests have never caused excessive CPU utilization on 5.x, and do seem to consume more CPU resources on 4.x. I was attributing this behavior to the scheduling and GIANT lock issues of 5.x . It's interesting to learn about your testing and that you are capable of stressing the Kernel so easily. The tests I perform I utilize my production and non production applications so that I could measure what the net affect of OS performance would be in my environment. I used to focus tests on more esoteric what if scenarios, even trying to optimize my code before it was done, etc. I have found over the years that performance is a tricky beast to catch. Being a performance junkie like myself tends to make me focus on the performance that I don't need rather than the performance that I do. I still think about the 400HP Camero that I drove to get groceries, and it still puts a smile on my face. > I just wish that they had done a 64-bit version of > 4.x. Because at the moment it seems that there is > no way to utilize the opteron fully without having > to use a slow version of the OS, which negates > the gains. Its a real shame. The bottom line in all of this is that 5.x and newer is where FreeBSD is going and 4.x and older is now legacy software weather we like it or not. In my mind this puts us in a postion to do one of the following: 1) Focus our efforts on 4.11 that's being replaced anyway. 2) Stop using FreeBSD and use Linux, Solaris, OpenBSD, ...... 3) Write our own OS that will solve all the worlds problems. 4) Accept the leadership and direction of the FreeBSD team and help them make 5.x and newer the OS that we know that it can be. Clearly option 4 is the best choice for FreeBSD and it's users for a number of reasons. The developers need people to use the software that they are working on so that they can improve it. In your case you could help the developers identify the performance issues that you are facing so that they can make improvements that would benefit you and all the other users that need routing/packet-processing performance. The dramatic changes made 5.x and newer can't be over stated. Essentially they are writing a new OS the hard way. They have to keep one foot behind while trying to move people forward with very few resources. I'm truly amazed that they have made it this far. Additionally, the core team chose to implement technologies that are technically superior, but are very difficult to implement. Even with the massive amount of resources that the Linux community has, they have opted to hold off on these types of technologies for easier solutions until they can implement them down the road. If we as a community, get on board with the developers we will ultimately be able to take advantage of these technologies, and will have a mature solution when other projects are just starting to go down this difficult journey. I didn't really realize this myself until recently and wanted to share my perspective. I know this has gotten of topic from the original post and I apologize for that. --Nick > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com > wrote: > > > > > > :Boris, > > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was > slow > > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the > newer > > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my > test > > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like > > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with > it > > :as well. > > : > > :--Nick > > > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and > its > > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > > networking is a large component for most people I think. > > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > > So its hard to justify. > > > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > > wrote: > > > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > > 4GB). > > > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > > feel. > > > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > > 4.9. > > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? 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Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:15:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29EE16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2836443D31 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TastyNachos@charter.net) Received: from mxip10.cluster1.charter.net (mxip10a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.140])j2JNFHf4005623 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:15:18 -0500 Received: from 68-189-90-224.ca.charter.com (HELO [172.16.64.102]) (68.189.90.224) by mxip10.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 19 Mar 2005 18:15:15 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,104,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="677311623:sNHT33010300" From: Remington To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:15:31 -0800 Message-Id: <1111274131.763.1.camel@baby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Weird USB KVM Woes in 5.4-PRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 -0000 FreeBSD baby 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #7: Sat Mar 12 14:22:16 PST 2005 remi@baby:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD64 amd64 What I am doing is using a KVM with my AMD64 laptop. The KVM cables are PS/2 so I have Radio Shack PS/2-2-TO-USB cable adapters to connect both my mouse and keyboard. On boot both the keyboard and mouse are not operational. If I disconnect the cable going to the mouse my keyboard works. If I do this vice-versa(disconnect keyboard) nothing works(i.e. my mouse still doesnt work). The KVM does work with my windows partition of my laptop so I am lead to believe it is an issue with USB implementation of BSD not my KVM. I have attached my dmesg -v for diagnostic. ------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #7: Sat Mar 12 14:22:16 PST 2005 remi@baby:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD64 Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xffffffff806a6000. Preloaded elf obj module "/boot/kernel/acpi_perf.ko" at 0xffffffff806a6240. Preloaded elf obj module "/boot/kernel/cpufreq.ko" at 0xffffffff806a6770. Preloaded elf obj module "/boot/kernel/powernow.ko" at 0xffffffff806a6c98. Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193199 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 800032866 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (800.03-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf4a Stepping = 10 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500800 L1 2MB data TLB: 8 entries, fully associative L1 2MB instruction TLB: 8 entries, fully associative L1 4KB data TLB: 32 entries, fully associative L1 4KB instruction TLB: 32 entries, fully associative L1 data cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative L1 instruction cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative L2 2MB unified TLB: 0 entries, disabled/not present L2 4KB data TLB: 512 entries, 4-way associative L2 4KB instruction TLB: 512 entries, 4-way associative L2 unified cache: 1024 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 16-way associative real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00000000007a4000 - 0x000000001f0bffff, 512868352 bytes (125212 pages) avail memory = 509042688 (485 MB) ACPI APIC Table: APIC: CPU 0 has ACPI ID 0 MADT: Found IO APIC ID 1, Interrupt 0 at 0xfec00000 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 ioapic0: Routing external 8259A's -> intpin 0 ioapic0: intpin 0 -> ExtINT (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 1 -> ISA IRQ 1 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 2 -> ISA IRQ 2 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 3 -> ISA IRQ 3 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 4 -> ISA IRQ 4 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 5 -> ISA IRQ 5 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 6 -> ISA IRQ 6 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 7 -> ISA IRQ 7 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 8 -> ISA IRQ 8 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 9 -> ISA IRQ 9 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 10 -> ISA IRQ 10 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 11 -> ISA IRQ 11 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 12 -> ISA IRQ 12 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 13 -> ISA IRQ 13 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 14 -> ISA IRQ 14 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 15 -> ISA IRQ 15 (edge, high) ioapic0: intpin 16 -> PCI IRQ 16 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 17 -> PCI IRQ 17 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 18 -> PCI IRQ 18 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 19 -> PCI IRQ 19 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 20 -> PCI IRQ 20 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 21 -> PCI IRQ 21 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 22 -> PCI IRQ 22 (level, low) ioapic0: intpin 23 -> PCI IRQ 23 (level, low) MADT: Interrupt override: source 0, irq 2 ioapic0: Routing IRQ 0 -> intpin 2 ioapic0: intpin 2 trigger: edge ioapic0: intpin 2 polarity: high MADT: Interrupt override: source 9, irq 9 ioapic0: intpin 9 trigger: level ioapic0: intpin 9 polarity: low lapic0: Routing NMI -> LINT1 lapic0: LINT1 trigger: edge lapic0: LINT1 polarity: high ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard cpu0 BSP: ID: 0x00000000 VER: 0x00040010 LDR: 0x01000000 DFR: 0x0fffffff lint0: 0x00010700 lint1: 0x00000400 TPR: 0x00000000 SVR: 0x000001ff timer: 0x00010000 therm: 0x00000000 err: 0x00010000 pcm: 0x00010000 null: random: mem: io: acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [MPSAFE] pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80010014 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=31881106) acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 17 func 0 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 17 func 1 acpi_bus_number: root bus has no _BBN, assuming 0 AcpiOsDerivePciId: bus 0 dev 17 func 0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 ACPI timer: 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 1/1 -> 10 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 k8_powernow0: on cpu0 k8_powernow0: nstates: 4 fsb: 200 k8_powernow0: 0 2000000kHz FID 0c (10.0) VID 02 (1500mV) k8_powernow0: 1 1800000kHz FID 0a ( 9.0) VID 06 (1400mV) k8_powernow0: 2 1600000kHz FID 08 ( 8.0) VID 0a (1300mV) k8_powernow0: 3 800000kHz FID 00 ( 4.0) VID 12 (1100mV) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_ec0: info: new max delay is 30 us acpi_ec0: info: new max delay is 40 us acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff iomem 0xfffc0000-0xffffffff on acpi0 ACPI PCI link initial configuration: pci0: on pcib0 pci0: physical bus=0 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base b0000000, size 27, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3188, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=0, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x2230, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x08 (240 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0xb188, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=1, func=0 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0107, statreg=0x2230, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x0a (2500 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00000000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x1524, dev=0x1411, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=9, func=0 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0xc0 (48000 ns), maxlat=0x03 (750 ns) intpin=a, irq=255 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e000, size 7, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.9.INTB pcib0: slot 9 INTB hardwired to IRQ 18 found-> vendor=0x1524, dev=0x0510, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=9, func=1 class=05-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0001, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=4 (dwords) lattimer=0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=18 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f0000000, size 11, enabled map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e080, size 7, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.11.INTA pcib0: slot 11 INTA hardwired to IRQ 18 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3044, revid=0x80 bus=0, slot=11, func=0 class=0c-00-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0087, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=4 (dwords) lattimer=0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x20 (8000 ns) intpin=a, irq=18 powerspec 2 supports D0 D2 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001200, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.16.INTA pcib0: slot 16 INTA hardwired to IRQ 21 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x80 bus=0, slot=16, func=0 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x16 (660 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=21 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001300, size 5, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.16.INTB pcib0: slot 16 INTB hardwired to IRQ 21 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x80 bus=0, slot=16, func=1 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x16 (660 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=b, irq=21 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000fce0, size 5, port disabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x80 bus=0, slot=16, func=2 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x16 (660 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=c, irq=255 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f0000800, size 8, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.16.INTD pcib0: slot 16 INTD hardwired to IRQ 21 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3104, revid=0x82 bus=0, slot=16, func=3 class=0c-03-20, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x20 (960 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=d, irq=21 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3177, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=17, func=0 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0087, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00001100, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0571, revid=0x06 bus=0, slot=17, func=1 class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0290, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x40 (1920 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=255 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e100, size 8, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.17.INTC pcib0: slot 17 INTC hardwired to IRQ 22 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3059, revid=0x50 bus=0, slot=17, func=5 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0001, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=c, irq=22 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e200, size 8, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.17.INTC pcib0: slot 17 INTC hardwired to IRQ 22 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3068, revid=0x80 bus=0, slot=17, func=6 class=07-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0001, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=c, irq=22 powerspec 2 supports D0 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 0000e300, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f0000900, size 8, enabled pcib0: matched entry for 0.18.INTA pcib0: slot 18 INTA hardwired to IRQ 23 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3065, revid=0x74 bus=0, slot=18, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0087, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=4 (dwords) lattimer=0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=0x03 (750 ns), maxlat=0x08 (2000 ns) intpin=a, irq=23 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x1100, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=24, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0010, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x1101, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=24, func=1 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0000, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x1102, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=24, func=2 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0000, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x1103, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=24, func=3 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x0000, statreg=0x0000, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) agp0: mem 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 AMD64: 1 Misc. Control unit(s) found. agp0: Reserved 0x8000000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xb0000000 agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 128M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0xc000-0xdfff pcib1: memory decode 0xe0000000-0xefffffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0xa0000000-0xafffffff pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB - AE_NOT_FOUND pci1: on pcib1 pci1: physical bus=1 map[10]: type 3, range 32, base a8000000, size 27, enabled pcib1: device (null) requested decoded memory range 0xa8000000-0xafffffff map[14]: type 4, range 32, base 0000c100, size 8, enabled pcib1: device (null) requested decoded I/O range 0xc100-0xc1ff map[18]: type 1, range 32, base e0010000, size 16, enabled pcib1: device (null) requested decoded memory range 0xe0010000-0xe001ffff pcib0: matched entry for 0.1.INTA pcib0: slot 1 INTA hardwired to IRQ 16 pcib1: slot 0 INTA is routed to irq 16 found-> vendor=0x1002, dev=0x4e50, revid=0x00 bus=1, slot=0, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x02b0, cachelnsz=4 (dwords) lattimer=0x80 (3840 ns), mingnt=0x08 (2000 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=16 powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: at device 9.0 on pci0 cbb0: Lazy allocation of 0x1000 bytes rid 0x10 type 3 at 0x80000000 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib0: matched entry for 0.9.INTA pcib0: slot 9 INTA hardwired to IRQ 17 cbb0: [MPSAFE] cbb0: PCI Configuration space: 0x00: 0x14111524 0x02100007 0x06070001 0x00824008 0x10: 0x80000000 0x020000a0 0x40030200 0xfffff000 0x20: 0x00000000 0xfffff000 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x30: 0x00000000 0xfffffffc 0x00000000 0x07400111 0x40: 0x83551071 0x00000001 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x50: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x60: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x70: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x80: 0x0040d021 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x010c1202 0x90: 0x604482c0 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xa0: 0xfe010001 0x00c00000 0x00000010 0x00000fef 0xb0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xc0: 0x00001000 0x00800080 0x12080400 0x20000000 0xd0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xe0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0xf0: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 pci0: at device 9.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 11.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1200-0x121f irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1200 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ukbd0: Composite USB PS2 Converter USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.12, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd: new array size 4 kbd1 at ukbd0 kbd1: ukbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1d0000 ums0: Composite USB PS2 Converter USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.12, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port 0x1300-0x131f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1300 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ukbd1: Composite USB PS2 Converter USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.12, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd1 kbd2: ukbd1, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1d0000 ums1: Composite USB PS2 Converter USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.12, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums1: 3 buttons and Z dir. uhci2: port 0xfce0-0xfcff at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xfce0 pcib0: matched entry for 0.16.INTC pcib0: slot 16 INTC hardwired to IRQ 21 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 16.3 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1100-0x110f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 17.1 on pci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x10 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0x1100 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0x1f0 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x14 type 4 at 0x3f6 ata0: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 ata0-master: stat=0x50 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0-slave: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=50 stat1=00 devices=0x1 ata0: [MPSAFE] ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci0: Reserved 0x8 bytes for rid 0x18 type 4 at 0x170 atapci0: Reserved 0x1 bytes for rid 0x1c type 4 at 0x376 ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 ata1-master: stat=0x10 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata1-slave: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata1: reset tp2 stat0=10 stat1=00 devices=0x4 ata1: [MPSAFE] pcm0: port 0xe100-0xe1ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm0: Reserved 0x100 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0xe100 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: pcm0: Codec features 5 bit master volume, no 3D Stereo Enhancement pcm0: Primary codec extended features double rate PCM, reserved 1, center DAC, surround DAC, LFE DAC, reserved 4 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 972000, 1000; 0xffffff0000972000 -> 972000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 1ec50000, 1000; 0xffffff001ec50000 -> 1ec50000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 97a000, 1000; 0xffffff000097a000 -> 97a000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 978000, 1000; 0xffffff0000978000 -> 978000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 9b5000, 1000; 0xffffff00009b5000 -> 9b5000 pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 992000, 1000; 0xffffff0000992000 -> 992000 pci0: at device 17.6 (no driver attached) vr0: port 0xe300-0xe3ff mem 0xf0000900-0xf00009ff irq 23 at device 18.0 on pci0 vr0: Reserved 0x100 bytes for rid 0x10 type 4 at 0xe300 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0032, rev. 8 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: bpf attached vr0: Ethernet address: 00:40:d0:5a:8b:bb vr0: [MPSAFE] acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd, ignored (300.0C) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0067 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: unable to allocate IRQ psmcpnp0: irq 12 on acpi0 psm0: current command byte:0067 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000008, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 unknown: not probed (disabled) sio0: irq maps: 0xc201 0xc209 0xc201 0xc201 sio0: port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 drq 0 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) unknown: not probed (disabled) atkbdc: atkbdc0 already exists; skipping it sio: sio0 already exists; skipping it Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 sc: sc0 already exists; skipping it vga: vga0 already exists; skipping it isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: at iomem 0xea000-0xeefff,0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0 fdc0 failed to probe at port 0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range ppc0: failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8 irq 3 on isa0 sio2: not probed (disabled) sio3: not probed (disabled) vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xffffffff800b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 6f 4f 4f 93 55 83 97 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 8f 82 8f 28 1f 8f 98 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 6f 4f 4f 93 55 83 97 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 8f 82 8f 28 1f 8f 98 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Device configuration finished. procfs registered Timecounter "TSC" frequency 800032866 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec lo0: bpf attached pflog0: bpf attached pfsync0: bpf attached acpi_acad0: acline initialization start acpi_acad0: On Line acpi_acad0: acline initialization done, tried 1 times acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization start acpi_cmbat0: battery initialization done, tried 1 times ata0-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x45 cable=80pin ata0-master: setting PIO4 on VIA 8235 chip ata0-master: setting UDMA100 on VIA 8235 chip ad0: ATA-6 disk at ata0-master ad0: 57231MB (117210240 sectors), 116280 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA100 GEOM: new disk ad0 ata1-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x42 cable=40pin ata1-master: setting PIO4 on VIA 8235 chip ata1-master: setting UDMA33 on VIA 8235 chip acd0: CDRW drive at ata1 as master acd0: read 689KB/s (4126KB/s) write 4126KB/s (4126KB/s), 2048KB buffer, UDMA33 acd0: Reads: CDR, CDRW, CDDA stream, DVDROM, DVDR, packet acd0: Writes: CDR, CDRW, test write, burnproof acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray, unlocked acd0: Medium: no/blank disc [0] f:00 typ:7 s(CHS):0/1/1 e(CHS):1023/254/63 s:63 l:24579387 [1] f:80 typ:165 s(CHS):1023/255/63 e(CHS):1023/254/63 s:24579450 l:92630790 [2] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [3] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 GEOM: Configure ad0s1, start 32256 length 12584646144 end 12584678399 GEOM: Configure ad0s2, start 12584678400 length 47426964480 end 60011642879 [0] f:63 typ:114 s(CHS):368/111/45 e(CHS):371/101/51 s:218129509 l:1701990410 [1] f:73 typ:116 s(CHS):67/115/32 e(CHS):299/114/44 s:729050177 l:543974724 [2] f:74 typ:101 s(CHS):114/111/32 e(CHS):353/115/52 s:168653938 l:0 [3] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:-1602027520 l:51635 [0] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [1] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [2] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [3] f:80 typ:165 s(CHS):0/0/1 e(CHS):1023/254/63 s:0 l:50000 GEOM: Configure ad0s2a, start 0 length 314572800 end 314572799 GEOM: Configure ad0s2b, start 314572800 length 1073741824 end 1388314623 GEOM: Configure ad0s2c, start 0 length 47426964480 end 47426964479 GEOM: Configure ad0s2d, start 1388314624 length 314572800 end 1702887423 GEOM: Configure ad0s2e, start 1702887424 length 104857600 end 1807745023 GEOM: Configure ad0s2f, start 1807745024 length 524288000 end 2332033023 GEOM: Configure ad0s2g, start 2332033024 length 45094931456 end 47426964479 [0] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [1] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [2] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [3] f:80 typ:165 s(CHS):0/0/1 e(CHS):1023/254/63 s:0 l:50000 [0] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [1] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [2] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [3] f:80 typ:165 s(CHS):0/0/1 e(CHS):1023/254/63 s:0 l:50000 (probe0:ata0:0:0:0): error 22 (probe0:ata0:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (probe1:ata0:0:1:0): error 22 (probe1:ata0:0:1:0): Unretryable Error (probe3:ata1:0:1:0): error 22 (probe3:ata1:0:1:0): Unretryable Error (probe0:ata0:0:0:0): error 22 (probe0:ata0:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (probe1:ata0:0:1:0): error 22 (probe1:ata0:0:1:0): Unretryable Error (probe3:ata1:0:1:0): error 22 (probe3:ata1:0:1:0): Unretryable Error (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): error 22 (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): error 6 (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): error 22 (probe2:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error pass0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device pass0: 33.000MB/s transfers GEOM: new disk cd0 ioapic0: routing intpin 1 (ISA IRQ 1) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 2 (ISA IRQ 0) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 3 (ISA IRQ 3) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 8 (ISA IRQ 8) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 9 (ISA IRQ 9) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 12 (ISA IRQ 12) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 14 (ISA IRQ 14) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 15 (ISA IRQ 15) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 17 (PCI IRQ 17) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 21 (PCI IRQ 21) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 22 (PCI IRQ 22) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 23 (PCI IRQ 23) to cluster 0 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 6 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 6 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 6 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): error 6 (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): Unretryable Error Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a start_init: trying /sbin/init From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:15:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35BE16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (natasha.tepid.org [68.148.0.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219343D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from weingart@tepid.org) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by natasha.tepid.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46DF3F3E; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:15:50 -0700 (MST) To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: Message from Scott Long of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:42:51 MST." <423C9CDB.50709@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: <21811.1111274150@natasha.tepid.org> From: Tobias Weingartner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:52 -0000 On Saturday, March 19, Scott Long wrote: > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > Why do you keep discussing the free stuff, and distracting everyone > > from the non-free bits? > > > > Is it because you used to work for Adaptec? Are you paid to distract > > people from the non-free code? > > No, but you're paranoid and refusing help. > > Scott Scott, Not that it matters, since I seriously doubt *YOU* pull any strings at adaptec, but in our efforts to open up hardware documentation and firmare interfaces, we have help squash bugs (very real and nasty bugs) in the firmware of more than one hardware device. In other words, the vendor got $2500/hour debugging help for free... --Toby. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:26:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F225A16A4CE; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:26:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ED243D1D; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:26:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.25] ([68.236.212.14]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IDM00EB0H4SL6D0@vms042.mailsrvcs.net>; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:26:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:27:25 -0500 From: bsdzz To: emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <423CB55D.9090204@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) Subject: QEMU not support Windows VPN ? (2nd try) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:26:54 -0000 Hello, I have been trying to connect from my FreeBSD box to a Microsoft VPN. I am running Windows 2000 Pro and also Windows Millenium inside QEMU. I have also tried using both "-user-net" and "/dev/tun0" connections. The connections fail while trying to authenticate my name and password. Is it possible to use connect to a Micrsoft VPN using WIndows inside QEMU? thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:42:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7DA16A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:42:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ADB43D49 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:42:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2JNglev010700; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2JNgiMN016177; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:42:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <435aa969867f07bebeed861c27283f40@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:42:43 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:42:48 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Intel vis-a-vis the i860 chips >> used for hardware parity computation on some of their RAID cards, for >> example. I don't think Adaptec dictated terms to Dell vis-a-vis the >> PERC 4 series, either. > > Whaat? Dell? The PERC 4 is an AMI device, Dell doesen't make chipsets > they are an assembler. The amr driver supports it and is open, so > obviously there was never an NDA there. Maybe I was thinking of the PERC 3, then-- this one: aac0@pci2:2:1: class=0x010400 card=0x00d11028 chip=0x00021028 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Dell Computer Corporation' device = 'PowerEdge 3/Di Expandable RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID [ ... ] none1@pci3:4:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00c51028 chip=0x00c59005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'RAID Subsystem HBA' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI none2@pci3:4:1: class=0x010000 card=0x00c51028 chip=0x00c59005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'RAID Subsystem HBA' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI > And as for the i860, there's tons of programming docs on the Internet > out > there for it, once again, it's already open. You've failed to address the point. Do you claim that Adaptec is in a position to ignore an NDA they have with a company like Intel or Dell? >>>> But the hardware vendors aren't obligated to meet your demands, >>> >>> This is also bullcrap. The hardware vendors are obligated to support >>> THEIR customers who have bought product from them. Some of those >>> customers want to run OpenBSD. Therefore the hardware vendors are >>> obligated to get off their fat asses and work with the OpenBSD people >>> regardless of how they may personally like or dislike them. >> >> Hardware vendors publish software compatibility lists. They have an >> obligation to support their products on the systems they claim to >> support. They have no obligation to support their products when used >> on systems they do not claim to support. > > There is a difference between legally obligated and morally obligated. > You were originally speaking on moral obligation, then switched to > legal > obligations. I never made a particular distinction as to the nature of the obligation. Your claim that I switched positions is dishonest and deserves retraction. > Naturally, if Adaptec claims support where none exists, that is fraud. > > But if Adaptec customers want to use their products on OpenBSD, that is > still an obligation, while it may not be a legal one, it is definitely > a > moral one. Or are you arguing in favor of scrapping the customer is > always right idea? You've created this strawman argument, answer it yourself. > All the people arguing with Theo against pulling AAC support from > OpenBSD's generic kernel are doing so based on a moral obligation that > they feel > Theo has to his users, you cannot argue that he has a moral obligation > and Adaptec does not. I'm not interested in sophistry about Theo's "moral obligations" to OpenBSD users. The basis for my position is simply one of "does the system work better after the change"? The AAC driver now in OpenBSD evidently works well enough that thousands of OpenBSD users would be critically affected by its removal. I'm perfectly willing to disagree with people who feel that breaking OpenBSD is a constructive action, and all the egocentric posturing does nothing to hide the nature of this change. Quite the contrary, in fact. I would never choose to do business either with Theo or with you, to be very honest. I don't think I could rely on you to act sensibly even in your own best interest, much less be reliable acting together in a mutually beneficial partnership. There's not much else I can say, and I'm not really interested in arguing with other people over their opinions-- you can believe anything you want to, even if it fails a reality check-- so I'll stop here. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:43:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B9616A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8E243D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so575226rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:43:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=J5jexevO+MhoAYVuAYswyM3K8o2WULBU5ZUAoMy9IUopiTklubbFMbt/TOnqEXz/zgK4YHcc0zvixDb1ckE0UgmCyims1ZC2weAPLiWIPMrfIuCnC1Zzc0DUS9stFgP05/fId8GTfNLgFQLqexenfYu0g7v2eBRANhY+jNYnDVU= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3559968rnd; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:43:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805031915434ef92956@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:43:41 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <423C9C31.8010004@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191743.j2JHhW1u024795@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <423C9C31.8010004@samsco.org> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ben Goren cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:42 -0000 You don't offer freedom of choice, what you offer is a binary-only solution, THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION, for that card. If you really did stand for freedom of choice, then you would have started pushing to open documentation way before this. Locking your users into only one way of doing something sure as hell isn't choice. I'd like to choose what management software I use, driver I use, etc... which I cannot do with this binary-only solution. There isn't really different kinds of freedom, freedom is freedom, I should be free to chose what management utility I use just like what card I use, which you have taken away by supporting a vendor's choice to lock up their customers. You, sir, do not support freedom of choice, and it appears that Adaptec doesn't either. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:40:01 -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Ben Goren wrote: > > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:50 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > > >> Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? > > > > > > If I own the plane, I expect to have all official service manuals, > > bulletins, etc. The FAA expects me to have them, too, or else I'm in > > *deep* trouble. Do you really think that, for example, Southwest > > Airlines doesn't have the schematics to every Boeing 737 they fly? That > > an experienced airline mechanic doesn't know about as much about the > > planes as the engineers who designed them--if not more? > > > >> I'm saying that resources are out > >> there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT > >> NOW. No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the > >> goals of getting the job done. > > > > > > No, they don't. > > > > You've already admitted that Adaptec firmware is full of bugs. Why > > shouldn't we assume that the binary-only crap you're trying to push on > > us isn't full of the same? > > > > Oh bullshit. I didn't say anything like that. Here's a shocker.... > OpenBSD has bugs! And so does FreeBSD! And so does the Space Shuttle > guidance system. Next time you try to put word in my mouth, try a > little harder at it. Jackass. > > > I run OpenBSD not just because it's Free, but because its quality > > outshines everything else. That quality is a direct result of Theo and > > his friends being able to write, or at least tinker with, the code WITH > > NO RESTRICTIONS. > > > > You offer us a compromise, not just of our freedom, but of the stability > > of our systems and the security of our data. Why should we accept either? > > > > I offer freedom of choice. > > This has gone about in the direction that I figured it would. I don't > speak for Adaptec, and I never have. I've supported them in the past, > and I support the friendships that I have there now. If the goals of > OpenBSD are political purity of software openness, that's wonderful. > Take your freedom of choice and do what you want with it. Stop going > around screaming and yelling and acting like a 3 year old because others > won't give you stuff that you think you deserve. > > Scott > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:43:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC416A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5346643D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Mar 2005 23:43:49 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 00:43:49 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gert Cuykens Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:43:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart30052124.dSI29IbUBJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503200043.42072@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: /usr/ports/packages/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:43:52 -0000 --nextPart30052124.dSI29IbUBJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 19. M=E4rz 2005 21:34 schrieb Gert Cuykens: > Does only portmanager create packages ? Or does make install also make > a package ? How can i tell them to put all the packages in the > /usr/ports/packages/ instead of the port application directory ? If "/usr/ports/packages" exists 'make package' creates packages in that=20 directory, otherwise in the ports directory. =2DHarry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart30052124.dSI29IbUBJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCPLktBylq0S4AzzwRAvmDAJ4yW7uq0x8J9FilE98eEhGUctfNvQCfSV0f yF1e5tm09IQokv2Q8T6mxRI= =2WJ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart30052124.dSI29IbUBJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:56:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552B116A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:56:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAA243D39 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so482440rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pUJfzNpOil6zJjath53va6vzLddD3BpAC99bh407dTw5OaBENbndbmhDA4ZtRFv1p0Mk4g2yHbwZBwl7Qy7fkxNDqHcEP7h/ZqWwZOJZ36MrVnjVXv5693KfSmSBJ+Jjw3fQpY1jvLXVzcKGjQWdJH+lpZ4Hl8mvpU9YbHAN2Wo= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr3356048rng; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:56:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:56:33 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <945833672.20050319090942@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <200503181627.06020@harrymail> <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> <945833672.20050319090942@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:56:34 -0000 Anthony, I referenced the Novell GroupWise product. I'm not sure what you were referencing with the generic "Groupware" that you mentioned. It's clear that you have little knowledge of this technology and may want to spend some time learning about it before making blanket statements about it. My biggest concern is that you don't miss lead someone else on this list. GroupWise is superior to Exchange in almost every aspect. You would only know this if you had to mange both of these tools in the real world. As a straight mail server/"messaging server" Exchange in any version doesn't hold a candle to the available *nix bases solutions. Exchange has it's place with out a doubt, but please don't try to wave the Exchange flag to someone that knows better. --Nick On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:09:42 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Nick Pavlica writes: > > > I have had excellent results with Novell GroupWise. > > Groupware is fine if you need other functions more than e-mail, but for > an organization interested primarily or exclusively in messaging, > Exchange is the best choice. > > For example, Lotus Notes (like Groupwise, IIRC) is primarily a data > manager with a few messaging functions. Exchange is a messaging system > with a few data-management functions. Most organizations need e-mail > more than anything else (even though many manage to delude themselves > into believing otherwise), which is why Exchange is often a good choice. > > -- > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:57:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8029816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3B243D1F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so604808wri for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:57:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aT+ETvcPfpGnngLOoZojOhgOEAe+gY676njZAbX6RBKxqJQd9da8MfbfrNgxLq93ND9oB+fYpAf27qYwmqFNIXlZQueP9tLdeGzkpZgGm2Zi5GZeXbDb0Nv4ozaD2oSkTALuKE1Eq+cchFc4+v9yHHHn4ewJdwUWcC/hy1cZYB4= Received: by 10.54.35.69 with SMTP id i69mr2847359wri; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:57:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:32 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:57:34 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU Have you tried "man top" "WCPU, when displayed, is the weighted cpu percentage (this is the same value that ps(1) displays as CPU), CPU is the raw percentage and is the field that is sorted to determine the order of the processes." -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 23:59:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC14716A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:59:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9789F43D46 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:59:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.a0.249e29e6 (16109) for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r24 (mblk-r24.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.14]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID121-3eed423cbcc61d3; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FAF6C2C2F283-4FC-1280B@mblk-r24.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.89.83 by mblk-r24.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.14) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.14 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:59:07 -0000 You sound more like a politician than an engineer, Nick. I'm not a guinea pig, and I have a business to run,and I'm not going to spend an extra $400. per system to to get the same speed as with 4.x just to be one of the fellas. I have no obligation to care about their plight, just as they've informed me that they have no obligation to care about the needs of anyone in their user base. As for leadership, the FreeBSD developers told everyone that 5.3 was da bomb, and that 5.4 would be better, but if you get Robert Watson in a choke-hold he'll admit that its going to be the 6.x before they are where they should be now. The truth is that the model they chose for 5.x just plain doesn't work. If you get a charge out of playing follow the bozos, good for you. But I have a car, and when the new model comes out I might test drive it, and if it sucks I'll either keep my old car or buy something else. For now I'm slapping a coat of wax on 4.x and hoping that someone figures it out shortly. I chose freeBSD initially over linux not because there's a bunch of good guys on the project, but because it was good. I'll stick with 4.x for the same reasons. Personally I think its going to be a long, long time before FreeBSD is any good anymore. And I don't have that kind of time. The entire point of the project is to improve SMP performance, and several years in its worse than it was before. What evidience is there that there is an end to this ridiculous tunnel? -----Original Message----- Hello, On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Pavlica > To: em1897@aol.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question > > :em1897, > : I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP > :stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput > :than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. > :I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a Linux > :Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do > :have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough > :after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when > :it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the > :performance I need out of FreeBSD. > : > :--Nick > > on a side note, I thought top posting was a no-no? I see gmail has the > same issues as AOL. Or are the issues with the old farts with their > newsreaders? :-) > > I don't get your logic. You are converting your servers from 4.x to 5.4 > because you've found that 5.4 is faster than linux? Is that some sort > of riddle? FreeBSD has always been faster than linux; I'm comparing > FreeBSD 4.x to 5.4, so I'm not sure what linux has to do with > anything here. I guess I was a little vague :). I brought up Linux because you mentioned it in your earlier post, and wanted to share my results with it. Additionally, I have used Linux in many projects over the years and like to use it as a baseline of comparison. The point that I was trying to make was that I was getting good results with 5.4 in my tests. I have been pitting 4.x against 5.x since I began using FreeBSD for my projects. The 4.x series does have an excellent performance record that can't be questioned, however, 5.x gets the job done for me. > > What you can "get" in terms of throughput doesn't always give you > the right answer. My tests measure kernel performance; as I'm > interested in routing/packet-processing performance. Sockets add > a tricky variable. But I take the IP stack out of the equation > altogether > by bridging packets through a box, and I prefer to use a 50% load > as timings sometimes change when you start to saturate things > unnaturally. You won't be running your machine at 100% load, so > it makes no sense to test it that way. > > For the latest test I have a 3.06Ghz xeon bridging 486,000pps. > For FreeBSD 4.9, this is a 50% load. The load under 5.4 is 65%. > It tests interrupt and process switching performance, which for > a networking device is a key performance indicator. (I think) > that the 5.4 kernel is threaded, so there are latencies that > are very difficult to overcome. Linux has been threaded for > a long time, and always has been a poor Uniprocessor > performer. 5.4 is better than linux with one processor, > but if you are UP then > 4.x is clearly the way to go. Linux kills 5.4 with dual > processors; in fact 5.4 seems to have higher network > performance with 1 processor than 2. They still have > a lot of issues to work out. DragonflyBSD has done a > nice job with MP, but their performance is still a work > in progress. For UP, their performance is dismal so > its not quite where it needs to be, but its promising. > My tests are focused around simple network I/O and saturate all the other subsystems before making the kernel break a sweat, MP or UP. Curiously, all of my tests have never caused excessive CPU utilization on 5.x, and do seem to consume more CPU resources on 4.x. I was attributing this behavior to the scheduling and GIANT lock issues of 5.x . It's interesting to learn about your testing and that you are capable of stressing the Kernel so easily. The tests I perform I utilize my production and non production applications so that I could measure what the net affect of OS performance would be in my environment. I used to focus tests on more esoteric what if scenarios, even trying to optimize my code before it was done, etc. I have found over the years that performance is a tricky beast to catch. Being a performance junkie like myself tends to make me focus on the performance that I don't need rather than the performance that I do. I still think about the 400HP Camero that I drove to get groceries, and it still puts a smile on my face. > I just wish that they had done a 64-bit version of > 4.x. Because at the moment it seems that there is > no way to utilize the opteron fully without having > to use a slow version of the OS, which negates > the gains. Its a real shame. The bottom line in all of this is that 5.x and newer is where FreeBSD is going and 4.x and older is now legacy software weather we like it or not. In my mind this puts us in a postion to do one of the following: 1) Focus our efforts on 4.11 that's being replaced anyway. 2) Stop using FreeBSD and use Linux, Solaris, OpenBSD, ...... 3) Write our own OS that will solve all the worlds problems. 4) Accept the leadership and direction of the FreeBSD team and help them make 5.x and newer the OS that we know that it can be. Clearly option 4 is the best choice for FreeBSD and it's users for a number of reasons. The developers need people to use the software that they are working on so that they can improve it. In your case you could help the developers identify the performance issues that you are facing so that they can make improvements that would benefit you and all the other users that need routing/packet-processing performance. The dramatic changes made 5.x and newer can't be over stated. Essentially they are writing a new OS the hard way. They have to keep one foot behind while trying to move people forward with very few resources. I'm truly amazed that they have made it this far. Additionally, the core team chose to implement technologies that are technically superior, but are very difficult to implement. Even with the massive amount of resources that the Linux community has, they have opted to hold off on these types of technologies for easier solutions until they can implement them down the road. If we as a community, get on board with the developers we will ultimately be able to take advantage of these technologies, and will have a mature solution when other projects are just starting to go down this difficult journey. I didn't really realize this myself until recently and wanted to share my perspective. I know this has gotten of topic from the original post and I apologize for that. --Nick > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com > wrote: > > > > > > :Boris, > > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was > slow > > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the > newer > > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my > test > > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would like > > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with > it > > :as well. > > : > > :--Nick > > > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and > its > > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > > networking is a large component for most people I think. > > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > > So its hard to justify. > > > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > > wrote: > > > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > > 4GB). > > > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > > feel. > > > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > > 4.9. > > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? 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