From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:01:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081316A4E1 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD20A43D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so628048rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LL3hpRCXXT1ozhJSzy7CLgGoEjdXguIwQpL9CT9dxjdOTpqcUEpixCSIi6Adgua2OKuheEs7O9gXttoBgVqRVNaBTvY35eR6KiqgBfO1R3vDbTLywVmKQ+/lR4LmlJUf5tZFnP27cmwZ6uJwpOnJVu57NPLPM2XZu8jYn7WtiC4= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3559773rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:01:04 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> cc: Scott Long cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt cc: Ben Goren cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:05 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard? Do > > you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector > > computer before you get into a car? I'm saying that resources are out > > there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT > > NOW. No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the > > goals of getting the job done. If not having the source is a problem, > > then that's your choice and you don't have to use it. But why deprive > > people of a choice, like Theo wants. Freedom is about choice. > > FreeBSD users... watch how Scott argues against free software.. and > cc's the person at Adaptec who he says we should not be mailing... > > oh boy.... > > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would have pushed for open docs a long time ago. Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:10:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5015016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:10:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D394C43D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:10:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwk@rahn-koltermann.de) Received: from [212.227.126.209] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCo1T-0005tC-00; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:27 +0100 Received: from [217.232.138.8] (helo=hunter.localnet) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DCo1T-0003NX-00; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:27 +0100 From: "Georg-W. Koltermann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1111277436.1092.11.camel@localhost.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:90bcaad5e51ecc993b2919ba4b74e6dc cc: boris@brooknet.com.au Subject: Windows Mobile connected via uppc-kmod, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:10:29 -0000 Hi, I am trying to connect my BlueMedia PDA (rebrand of Yakumo Delta 300 GPS) to FreeBSD 5.3 using the uppc-kmod port. I am having problems to get the connection up. The ppp log shows that the link is established briefly but then immediately disconnects. It never makes it to talk to dccm. Is anyone out there using this? Does it work at all? -- Regards, Georg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A629016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B2B43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2K0FNi6006731; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2K0FLgE023925; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:15:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:20 -0500 To: Jason Crawford X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:15:23 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > have pushed for open docs a long time ago. FUD check: FreeBSD works quite well with RAID products from 3ware, Promise, and Highpoint to my direct knowledge, as well as Adaptec's, and I've seen dmesg's on had accounts on systems using Mylex and LSI controllers. I am not as sure about the Qlogic and DPT brands. Things aren't perfect-- I lost a 4-disk * 120GB RAID-10 array on a HPT-370 about a year ago, and was very fortunate to have had good backups, but I can't truly blame FreeBSD's ATA/RAID implementation, since I'd used the HPT BIOS to do the rebuild rather than atacontrol. Next time I'll buy a 3ware or Promise card, though, not use a MB-based HPT controller... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:18:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170EB16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:18:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-100-sunday.nerim.net [62.4.16.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1FD43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:18:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from espie@nerim.net) Received: from tetto.gentiane.org (espie.gentiane.org [62.212.102.210]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AB641880; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:18:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from tetto.home (espie@localhost.my.domain [127.0.0.1]) by tetto.gentiane.org (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2K0IHgg032065; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:18:19 +0100 (CET) Received: (from espie@localhost) by tetto.home (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id j2K0IBXb024142; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:18:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:18:09 +0100 From: Marc Espie To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20050320001808.GA19781@tetto.home> References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: espie@nerim.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:18:24 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > Oh boo hoo. You never contacted me. Others in that past have. No, I > can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been > happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc. Ask the BSD/OS guys, > ask the OSDL guys, on and on and on. And as for trying to expose my > evil conspriarcy against OpenBSD via Doug, you might want to leave > him out of it. If you have questions, ask them and I'll do my best to > answer them. Otherwise, stop crying that no one will help you. Information is power. You control that information. You signed an NDA, and Adaptec gave you the documentation. Stuff you can't share. Why can't you share it ? Because you signed the NDA. But that's not the point. I'm sure you love it that people have to come to you, and that you can play at being the old (senile?) wise guy on the mountain who will educate the young coder, and show him the error of his ways `no, young one, you see (whack on the head), that's not how you write code for this card.' And so it goes. So, you're quite happy in the current situation, because you think you have relevance. Apart from that, you might be someone quite nice. I don't know, I don't care. I don't see why you should wield that kind of power over me. I don't see why I should have to trust you if you say `this code is good'. Heck, I don't even know you. Which is a very good reason for me to want OpenBSD to have the actual documentation. See, Theo is definitely not the nicest person in the world. But I know him. And I trust him, and my fellow OpenBSD developers, to write correct code from the documentation. NDA crap ? yeah right. It makes practical sense. I see enough economical practical CRAP sense at work. I don't want it to invade the world of Truely Free Software. I hate NDIS, I hate nvidia binary drivers. I hate NDA. They're a really bad compromise, as most users WON'T CARE, and so the vendors can go on writing crappy binary drivers and pushing Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FAD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C803E43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so580911rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dsNBT3YW5UklDjrTafvKjJmV3ZGEPXDvb531OLE0pSuoowPsSXTeO6yS3IeZymR+0Oqz8C3jAw8n1Vj3fBJqkQFuPnBTdNMbpKzAo+q+dJaH/LyvBif+498Vk8V/z8IOsolbErELK905Yt7MjZ/IbPGkpUKM+Buaha8+rXyJBEU= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3575489rnd; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:46 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:47 -0000 I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or just experiment, as well as just develop/use a different management utility. This is not FUD, but fact. An unacceptable fact. Talking about how other raid controllers work with FreeBSD too has nothing to do with what I said, except that they too are binary-only no-free-documenation vendors at this point as well. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:20 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > > have pushed for open docs a long time ago. > > FUD check: > > FreeBSD works quite well with RAID products from 3ware, Promise, and > Highpoint to my direct knowledge, as well as Adaptec's, and I've seen > dmesg's on had accounts on systems using Mylex and LSI controllers. I > am not as sure about the Qlogic and DPT brands. > > Things aren't perfect-- I lost a 4-disk * 120GB RAID-10 array on a > HPT-370 about a year ago, and was very fortunate to have had good > backups, but I can't truly blame FreeBSD's ATA/RAID implementation, > since I'd used the HPT BIOS to do the rebuild rather than atacontrol. > > Next time I'll buy a 3ware or Promise card, though, not use a MB-based > HPT controller... > > -- > -Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0897116A4CE; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from w2xo.jcdurham.com (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EE043D2F; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Received: from dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com (dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com [192.168.5.18]) by w2xo.jcdurham.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2K0KqpS063969; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) From: Jim Durham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503191920.47816.durham@jcdurham.com> cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:54 -0000 On Saturday 19 March 2005 04:03 am, Christian Tischler wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or > less, open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange > as my primary mail server. But its functionality for syncinig > calenders, documents and so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" > way of dealing with my situation here. I have to admit, that I > never used a windows server, and thought it should be fairly > easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the docs, which > tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD solution > must be found to get the job done. Investigate Mozilla's Sunbird calendars running against a WEBDAV module on Apache. This shares calendars quite nicely. It also works with OSX on Macs. You can share documents with Samba or with WEBDAV using something like "webdrive" which maps the WEBDAV directory on the server to Windows drive letters. Personally, I wouldn't wish Exchange on my worst enemy. It uses a database to store mail and, if that database becomes corrupted, you can lose all the email for the company. This will make you extremely unpopular. We had it happen once and just moved everyone over to Sendmail and never lost an email for 5 years now. It also has no concept of how internet mail works. It creates an environment where, if you are not running Outlook, you are "outside the loop". It is its own world and not really internet mail as we know it. Also, you have to run it on a Windows "server". which is not a server at all, but a glorified 2000 box or XP box. Anything that wants you to kick off all the users just because you installed a new piece of software is a toy server. You don't want to deal with that in a 24/7 world. There's never a time you can do that unless you *like* coming in Sunday night at midnight! -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:20:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0897116A4CE; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from w2xo.jcdurham.com (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EE043D2F; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Received: from dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com (dhcp18.home.jcdurham.com [192.168.5.18]) by w2xo.jcdurham.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2K0KqpS063969; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) From: Jim Durham To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> In-Reply-To: <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503191920.47816.durham@jcdurham.com> cc: Christian Tischler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:54 -0000 On Saturday 19 March 2005 04:03 am, Christian Tischler wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I will take a look at the, more or > less, open solutions. I never intended to use the MS exchange > as my primary mail server. But its functionality for syncinig > calenders, documents and so on, seemed to a "nice" "simple" > way of dealing with my situation here. I have to admit, that I > never used a windows server, and thought it should be fairly > easy. Now by looking at your submissions, and the docs, which > tend to give me headaches, I realize that an Free BSD solution > must be found to get the job done. Investigate Mozilla's Sunbird calendars running against a WEBDAV module on Apache. This shares calendars quite nicely. It also works with OSX on Macs. You can share documents with Samba or with WEBDAV using something like "webdrive" which maps the WEBDAV directory on the server to Windows drive letters. Personally, I wouldn't wish Exchange on my worst enemy. It uses a database to store mail and, if that database becomes corrupted, you can lose all the email for the company. This will make you extremely unpopular. We had it happen once and just moved everyone over to Sendmail and never lost an email for 5 years now. It also has no concept of how internet mail works. It creates an environment where, if you are not running Outlook, you are "outside the loop". It is its own world and not really internet mail as we know it. Also, you have to run it on a Windows "server". which is not a server at all, but a glorified 2000 box or XP box. Anything that wants you to kick off all the users just because you installed a new piece of software is a toy server. You don't want to deal with that in a 24/7 world. There's never a time you can do that unless you *like* coming in Sunday night at midnight! -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:51:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1254416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5549743D64 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:51:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.150?) (mjeays2551@24.114.152.139 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 00:51:11 -0000 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:51:10 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:51:13 -0000 On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 16:22, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Christian Tischler writes: > > > Actually the number of users will be quite small, and bandwidth is not > > an consideration. > > For small installations, I don't think Exchange is really > cost-effective. It's quite a monster. Easy to justify in a large > organization where all IT projects are monsters, anyway, but expensive > overkill in a small organization. Just set up standard SMTP/POP servers > and go with that. > Calendars and the like can be managed just by having > employees talk to each other (in person, on the phone, or by e-mail). I have to disagree with this! In my organization, a government department with about 6,000 staff, the ability to schedule meetings and book conference rooms has become an essential part of our computing infrastructure. Any attempt to remove these features or reduce their functionality from that provided by Outlook/Exchange would be met with considerable hostility and the permanent sidelining of he/she who proposed it. A definite career-limiting move. It is a major reason why we can't go to a fully open source desktop. > > This is especially true if everyone is in the same geographic location. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:06:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2102A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:06:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18C343D6E for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:06:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2K16Ki1005714; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2K16IOl002528; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:06:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:06:17 -0500 To: Jason Crawford X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:06:27 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the > fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only > management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change > something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or > just experiment, as well as just develop/use a different management > utility. You made the assertion that Scott was doing something to lock FreeBSD users "into only one option for a RAID card". This assertion is nonsense, so obviously so that it is clearly FUD. You have also made the assertion that FreeBSD users are forever locked into using a binary-only solution from Adaptec to manage AAC hardware. This assertion is also untrue. I've seen one or two people talk with Scott on the FreeBSD lists about creating an open source replacement to the binary-only management tool. It's probably a lot of work, and it will be ready when the work gets done, or not, depending on their time, interest, and motivation. In the meantime, people can use the binary management tool just fine, or they can revert to using the BIOS directly if they don't want to run the binary tool. > This is not FUD, but fact. An unacceptable fact. "Unacceptable" to whom? I can't remember seeing *anyone* complain about this matter over the past three years, so it's demonstrably not a problem for any noticable fraction of the FreeBSD userbase. You claim otherwise? Prove it! Cite Message-id from the FreeBSD mailing lists prior to this thread. Don't be bashful when it comes to showing evidence to back up your words.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:11:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1899E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:11:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (ns.ssr.com [199.4.235.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0804443D66 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: (qmail 38366 invoked by uid 103); 20 Mar 2005 01:11:45 -0000 From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1111281105.2382.39.camel@ns.ssr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:11:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:11:53 -0000 On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:01, Jason Crawford wrote: > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > have pushed for open docs a long time ago. I am certainly not the only FreeBSD user who has reason to thank Scott Long for the endless hours of unpaid work he has given to me personally. He is certainly one of the most decent and competent individuals it has been my good fortune to encounter. Leaving OpenBSD and moving to FreeBSD was like a breath of fresh air. Not only because, finally, hardware I had purchased that was listed in the the OpenBSD 'hardware compatibility list' finally did work, but because the FreeBSD community was really is a community and genuinely interested in helping out their user base. Scott Long is particularly outstanding in this regard. I remember the OpenBSD list and "support" very well, and didn't really need this recent reminder. Thanks for the memories and all that, but why don't you guys go back where you belong? Regards, sdb -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:16:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C9B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B843D54 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so492307rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:16:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=h2C+SoCtLXtxwVnFPxeWHJWx46nz/1QOVspNxQjKjINRcGrAWrPikqxwHNPXUNypGs2jgvWB1Q0OCSL0BjU6Ncb5x3Livi+nocwSRu3tZ+AWFC+RdRdA3eTaWPD9qwh12YefyqTD/WlxyzxgHEE0oqAHi+EGA6Dke7EroVQdYXE= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr3388508rng; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:16:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:16:43 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: "em1897@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <8C6FAF6C2C2F283-4FC-1280B@mblk-r24.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FAF6C2C2F283-4FC-1280B@mblk-r24.sysops.aol.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:16:45 -0000 I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one working on Saturday. I understand the business aspect of things, I have business that rely on this technology as well. The developers "Robert W."... don't owe us anything because we are not paying them. We didn't marry into there family, and didn't pull them out of a burning building. Without the free work that they have contributed, the work that I have contributed, and the thousands of others that have donated there time and money we wouldn't be able to exploit there work for our gain. I feel that it's important to give back, and clearly you do as well or you wouldn't be helping people on this list. I believe that this is reason enough to help the 5.x effort. We could choke everyone of the developers, but the fact remains that they are the developers of FreeBSD, and they are moving forward with these technologies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with staying on 4.x, and I know that you have to do what is right for you. What I'm advocating is that 5.x currently performs well enough to meet the performance needs for many organizations and can be used in production systems. It's also important to work on the problems at hand so that when 6.x is release it's what you and many others are expecting from it. I may sound like a politician, but as an Engineer and a Businessman I have grown accustom to looking at the bigger picture. When you test drive a car you are looking at more than how fast you can go from stop light to stop light. What is the fuel mileage, warranty, cost, color, etc. This is precisely how/why I got involved with this community and moved away from my RedHat roots. The funny thing is that I was making the exact same argument that you are against 5.x a few months ago to my team after comparing the disk I/O performance between 4.11 and 5.3. With some help from members of this community I was able to improve performance dramatically on 5.3 and noticed further improvement on 5.4. FreeBSD will continue to improve, but it isn't going to magically happen. It's likely that we will not completely agree with each other on this topic, but enjoy the being able to discuss both perspectives. --Nick On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > You sound more like a politician than an engineer, Nick. I'm not a > guinea pig, > and I have a business to run,and I'm not going to spend an extra $400. > per > system to to get the same speed as with 4.x just to be one of the > fellas. > I have no obligation to care about their plight, just as they've > informed me > that they have no obligation to care about the needs of anyone in > their user base. > > As for leadership, the FreeBSD developers told everyone that 5.3 was da > bomb, > and that 5.4 would be better, but if you get Robert Watson in a > choke-hold > he'll admit that its going to be the 6.x before they are where they > should be > now. The truth is that the model they chose for 5.x just plain doesn't > work. > If you get a charge out of playing follow the bozos, good for you. But > I have > a car, and when the new model comes out I might test drive it, and if > it sucks > I'll either keep my old car or buy something else. For now I'm slapping > a coat of > wax on 4.x and hoping that someone figures it out shortly. I chose > freeBSD > initially over linux not because there's a bunch of good guys on the > project, but > because it was good. I'll stick with 4.x for the same reasons. > Personally I think > its going to be a long, long time before FreeBSD is any good anymore. > And > I don't have that kind of time. The entire point of the project is to > improve > SMP performance, and several years in its worse than it was before. > What > evidience is there that there is an end to this ridiculous tunnel? > > -----Original Message----- > > Hello, > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500, em1897@aol.com > wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nick Pavlica > > To: em1897@aol.com > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question > > > > :em1897, > > : I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP > > :stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput > > :than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. > > :I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a > Linux > > :Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do > > :have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough > > :after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when > > :it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the > > :performance I need out of FreeBSD. > > : > > :--Nick > > > > on a side note, I thought top posting was a no-no? I see gmail has the > > same issues as AOL. Or are the issues with the old farts with their > > newsreaders? :-) > > > > I don't get your logic. You are converting your servers from 4.x to > 5.4 > > because you've found that 5.4 is faster than linux? Is that some sort > > of riddle? FreeBSD has always been faster than linux; I'm comparing > > FreeBSD 4.x to 5.4, so I'm not sure what linux has to do with > > anything here. > > I guess I was a little vague :). I brought up Linux because you > mentioned it in your earlier post, and wanted to share my results with > it. Additionally, I have used Linux in many projects over the years > and like to use it as a baseline of comparison. The point that I was > trying to make was that I was getting good results with 5.4 in my > tests. I have been pitting 4.x against 5.x since I began using > FreeBSD for my projects. The 4.x series does have an excellent > performance record that can't be questioned, however, 5.x gets the > job done for me. > > > > > What you can "get" in terms of throughput doesn't always give you > > the right answer. My tests measure kernel performance; as I'm > > interested in routing/packet-processing performance. Sockets add > > a tricky variable. But I take the IP stack out of the equation > > altogether > > by bridging packets through a box, and I prefer to use a 50% load > > as timings sometimes change when you start to saturate things > > unnaturally. You won't be running your machine at 100% load, so > > it makes no sense to test it that way. > > > > For the latest test I have a 3.06Ghz xeon bridging 486,000pps. > > For FreeBSD 4.9, this is a 50% load. The load under 5.4 is 65%. > > It tests interrupt and process switching performance, which for > > a networking device is a key performance indicator. (I think) > > that the 5.4 kernel is threaded, so there are latencies that > > are very difficult to overcome. Linux has been threaded for > > a long time, and always has been a poor Uniprocessor > > performer. 5.4 is better than linux with one processor, > > but if you are UP then > > 4.x is clearly the way to go. Linux kills 5.4 with dual > > processors; in fact 5.4 seems to have higher network > > performance with 1 processor than 2. They still have > > a lot of issues to work out. DragonflyBSD has done a > > nice job with MP, but their performance is still a work > > in progress. For UP, their performance is dismal so > > its not quite where it needs to be, but its promising. > > > > My tests are focused around simple network I/O and saturate all the > other subsystems before making the kernel break a sweat, MP or UP. > Curiously, all of my tests have never caused excessive CPU utilization > on 5.x, and do seem to consume more CPU resources on 4.x. I was > attributing this behavior to the scheduling and GIANT lock issues of > 5.x . It's interesting to learn about your testing and that you are > capable of stressing the Kernel so easily. The tests I perform I > utilize my production and non production applications so that I could > measure what the net affect of OS performance would be in my > environment. I used to focus tests on more esoteric what if > scenarios, even trying to optimize my code before it was done, etc. I > have found over the years that performance is a tricky beast to catch. > Being a performance junkie like myself tends to make me focus on the > performance that I don't need rather than the performance that I do. > I still think about the 400HP Camero that I drove to get groceries, > and it still puts a smile on my face. > > > I just wish that they had done a 64-bit version of > > 4.x. Because at the moment it seems that there is > > no way to utilize the opteron fully without having > > to use a slow version of the OS, which negates > > the gains. Its a real shame. > > The bottom line in all of this is that 5.x and newer is where FreeBSD > is going and 4.x and older is now legacy software weather we like it > or not. In my mind this puts us in a postion to do one of the > following: > 1) Focus our efforts on 4.11 that's being replaced anyway. > 2) Stop using FreeBSD and use Linux, Solaris, OpenBSD, ...... > 3) Write our own OS that will solve all the worlds problems. > 4) Accept the leadership and direction of the FreeBSD team and help > them make 5.x and newer the OS that we know that it can be. > > Clearly option 4 is the best choice for FreeBSD and it's users for a > number of reasons. The developers need people to use the software > that they are working on so that they can improve it. In your case > you could help the developers identify the performance issues that you > are facing so that they can make improvements that would benefit you > and all the other users that need routing/packet-processing > performance. The dramatic changes made 5.x and newer can't be over > stated. Essentially they are writing a new OS the hard way. They > have to keep one foot behind while trying to move people forward with > very few resources. I'm truly amazed that they have made it this far. > Additionally, the core team chose to implement technologies that are > technically superior, but are very difficult to implement. Even with > the massive amount of resources that the Linux community has, they > have opted to hold off on these types of technologies for easier > solutions until they can implement them down the road. If we as a > community, get on board with the developers we will ultimately be able > to take advantage of these technologies, and will have a mature > solution when other projects are just starting to go down this > difficult journey. > > I didn't really realize this myself until recently and wanted to share > my perspective. I know this has gotten of topic from the original > post and I apologize for that. > > --Nick > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > :Boris, > > > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was > > slow > > > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > > > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the > > newer > > > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my > > test > > > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > > > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would > like > > > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with > > it > > > :as well. > > > : > > > :--Nick > > > > > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and > > its > > > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > > > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > > > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > > > networking is a large component for most people I think. > > > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > > > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > > > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > > > So its hard to justify. > > > > > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > > > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > > > 4GB). > > > > > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > > > feel. > > > > > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > > > 4.9. > > > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > > > > Opteron here > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > > > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > > > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > > > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:17:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6447616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:17:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f8.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1574C43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:17:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdagee@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:17:36 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.186.70.48 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:17:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.186.70.48] X-Originating-Email: [kdagee@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kdagee@hotmail.com From: "Karl Agee" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:17:36 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2005 01:17:36.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A214C10:01C52CEA] Subject: printer gone beszerk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:17:37 -0000 FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk.......and, I cant clear the queue. Here is some output: bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address associated with hostname Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st kdagee 0 (standard input) 145143 bytes 2nd kdagee 1 (standard input) 74513 bytes 3rd kdagee 2 (standard input) 967543 bytes 4th kdagee 3 (standard input) 406428 bytes bash-2.05b$ lprm - lprm: getprintcap: printer not found bash-2.05b$ cat /etc/printcap # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the # /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file # will be lost. hp|hp:rm=:rp=hp: This is a local printer on lp0. I set it up using apsfilter, and I dont use cups. I want to delete these jobs but dont know what else to do. --Karl _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:44:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB2016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:44:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB4E43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so495439rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:44:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=urO5sV57hMMDgQjktMtK8VccBxwE6qN3MLT/SV95h78j1jBSN0xUePkbv8nAV4MRGQWB59OI3F5GAEqnUam7mO60Rsdda0EL8983N0JouL6qKW6kKXuK6CsJXZXVV5kTnog8dqfxz6mqfl2dUE7bhw98l/SKwpDihZtF5fXqx9U= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr3605977rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:44:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050319174485fb36a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:44:13 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:44:14 -0000 So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. And it would be A LOT easier to write an open source driver if Scott had pushed to open the docs sooner. He has successfully helped Adaptec lock it's customers, including FreeBSD users into using their binary-only management utility. Just becasue "there are efforts" from him that he wants to write an open source version, doesn't mean the user community has more choice. It still doesn't. Still locked to Adaptec's binary only version. If he had started a movement to make their docs open a long time ago, none of this would be neccessary now, and the users wouldn't be locked to ONLY ONE MANAGEMENT UTILITY that ISN'T FREE. He's about freedom of choice, yet helped to keep future choices harder to get. Jason On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:06:17 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the > > fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only > > management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change > > something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or > > just experiment, as well as just develop/use a different management > > utility. > > You made the assertion that Scott was doing something to lock FreeBSD > users "into only one option for a RAID card". This assertion is > nonsense, so obviously so that it is clearly FUD. > > You have also made the assertion that FreeBSD users are forever locked > into using a binary-only solution from Adaptec to manage AAC hardware. > This assertion is also untrue. I've seen one or two people talk with > Scott on the FreeBSD lists about creating an open source replacement to > the binary-only management tool. It's probably a lot of work, and it > will be ready when the work gets done, or not, depending on their time, > interest, and motivation. > > In the meantime, people can use the binary management tool just fine, > or they can revert to using the BIOS directly if they don't want to run > the binary tool. > > > This is not FUD, but fact. An unacceptable fact. > > "Unacceptable" to whom? I can't remember seeing *anyone* complain > about this matter over the past three years, so it's demonstrably not a > problem for any noticable fraction of the FreeBSD userbase. > > You claim otherwise? Prove it! > > Cite Message-id from the FreeBSD mailing lists prior to this thread. > Don't be bashful when it comes to showing evidence to back up your > words.... > > -- > -Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 01:57:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08D643D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139F460E7; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:57:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65838-06; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:57:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A5360E4; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:57:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423CD89F.6020304@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:57:51 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Agee References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printer gone beszerk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:50 -0000 Karl Agee wrote: > FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk.......and, I cant > clear the queue. > > Here is some output: > > bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp > Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address > associated with hostname > Warning: no daemon present > Rank Owner Job Files Total Size > 1st kdagee 0 (standard input) 145143 bytes > 2nd kdagee 1 (standard input) 74513 bytes > 3rd kdagee 2 (standard input) 967543 bytes > 4th kdagee 3 (standard input) 406428 bytes > bash-2.05b$ lprm - > lprm: getprintcap: printer not found > > bash-2.05b$ cat /etc/printcap > # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the > # /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file > # will be lost. > hp|hp:rm=:rp=hp: > > This is a local printer on lp0. I set it up using apsfilter, and I dont > use cups. > > I want to delete these jobs but dont know what else to do. > > --Karl > 1. killall lpd 2. cd /var/spool/lpd/lp 3. rm *.com 4. look into /var/spool/output and do the same as above 5. reset the printer 6. lpd 7. Drink beer. -- Best regards, Chris If you have watched a TV series only once, and you watch it again, it will be a rerun of the same episode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 02:23:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7991716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:23:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E4E43D5A for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:23:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id o.144.41db4e40 (16099); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r38 (mblk-r38.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.37]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID113-3ee3423cde922d8; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:23:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:23:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FB0AE74D8232-F38-12DDA@mblk-r38.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050318233039.33837.qmail@web90209.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FA2D0FF4CB85-BFC-1014C@mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FA491F181F0E-864-1095A@mblk-r42.sysops.aol.com> <8C6FAF6C2C2F283-4FC-1280B@mblk-r24.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-r38.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.37) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:23:14 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linicks@gmail.com X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.37 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:23:20 -0000 You are a strange bird, Nick. Do what you want with your life, but don't preach your BS to others. No one cares how hard anyone works or how much they are paid if the work is crap. And if you're dumb enough to think that they really do it for "free", then you've been completely bamboozled and deserve what you get. If you think these guys work at a hardware store all day and then slave over FreeBSD by candlelight you really don't get anything. Most of them work or consult for corporate sponsors or do the work on their companies time, and their companies get features they want prioritized. They do what they want in the order they want to do it and use the user base as guinea pigs so Yahoo doesn't have to test stuff for them. Get a clue. -----Original Message----- I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one working on Saturday. I understand the business aspect of things, I have business that rely on this technology as well. The developers "Robert W."... don't owe us anything because we are not paying them. We didn't marry into there family, and didn't pull them out of a burning building. Without the free work that they have contributed, the work that I have contributed, and the thousands of others that have donated there time and money we wouldn't be able to exploit there work for our gain. I feel that it's important to give back, and clearly you do as well or you wouldn't be helping people on this list. I believe that this is reason enough to help the 5.x effort. We could choke everyone of the developers, but the fact remains that they are the developers of FreeBSD, and they are moving forward with these technologies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with staying on 4.x, and I know that you have to do what is right for you. What I'm advocating is that 5.x currently performs well enough to meet the performance needs for many organizations and can be used in production systems. It's also important to work on the problems at hand so that when 6.x is release it's what you and many others are expecting from it. I may sound like a politician, but as an Engineer and a Businessman I have grown accustom to looking at the bigger picture. When you test drive a car you are looking at more than how fast you can go from stop light to stop light. What is the fuel mileage, warranty, cost, color, etc. This is precisely how/why I got involved with this community and moved away from my RedHat roots. The funny thing is that I was making the exact same argument that you are against 5.x a few months ago to my team after comparing the disk I/O performance between 4.11 and 5.3. With some help from members of this community I was able to improve performance dramatically on 5.3 and noticed further improvement on 5.4. FreeBSD will continue to improve, but it isn't going to magically happen. It's likely that we will not completely agree with each other on this topic, but enjoy the being able to discuss both perspectives. --Nick On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:02 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > You sound more like a politician than an engineer, Nick. I'm not a > guinea pig, > and I have a business to run,and I'm not going to spend an extra $400. > per > system to to get the same speed as with 4.x just to be one of the > fellas. > I have no obligation to care about their plight, just as they've > informed me > that they have no obligation to care about the needs of anyone in > their user base. > > As for leadership, the FreeBSD developers told everyone that 5.3 was da > bomb, > and that 5.4 would be better, but if you get Robert Watson in a > choke-hold > he'll admit that its going to be the 6.x before they are where they > should be > now. The truth is that the model they chose for 5.x just plain doesn't > work. > If you get a charge out of playing follow the bozos, good for you. But > I have > a car, and when the new model comes out I might test drive it, and if > it sucks > I'll either keep my old car or buy something else. For now I'm slapping > a coat of > wax on 4.x and hoping that someone figures it out shortly. I chose > freeBSD > initially over linux not because there's a bunch of good guys on the > project, but > because it was good. I'll stick with 4.x for the same reasons. > Personally I think > its going to be a long, long time before FreeBSD is any good anymore. > And > I don't have that kind of time. The entire point of the project is to > improve > SMP performance, and several years in its worse than it was before. > What > evidience is there that there is an end to this ridiculous tunnel? > > -----Original Message----- > > Hello, > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:05 -0500, em1897@aol.com > wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nick Pavlica > > To: em1897@aol.com > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:45:44 -0700 > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question > > > > :em1897, > > : I'm curious how you are testing. In my testing, the 5.4 pre IP > > :stack performed very well. I was able to get 100% more throughput > > :than Linux (2.6.10 FC3) under heavy load on the exact same hardware. > > :I was actually surprised at the difference because I have been a > Linux > > :Zellot for years. I didn't see any packet loss in my tests, but I do > > :have good quality networking gear and servers. I was happy enough > > :after my testing that I'm going to move my 4.x servers to 5.4 when > > :it's released. I haven't tested dragonfly yet, but get all the > > :performance I need out of FreeBSD. > > : > > :--Nick > > > > on a side note, I thought top posting was a no-no? I see gmail has the > > same issues as AOL. Or are the issues with the old farts with their > > newsreaders? :-) > > > > I don't get your logic. You are converting your servers from 4.x to > 5.4 > > because you've found that 5.4 is faster than linux? Is that some sort > > of riddle? FreeBSD has always been faster than linux; I'm comparing > > FreeBSD 4.x to 5.4, so I'm not sure what linux has to do with > > anything here. > > I guess I was a little vague :). I brought up Linux because you > mentioned it in your earlier post, and wanted to share my results with > it. Additionally, I have used Linux in many projects over the years > and like to use it as a baseline of comparison. The point that I was > trying to make was that I was getting good results with 5.4 in my > tests. I have been pitting 4.x against 5.x since I began using > FreeBSD for my projects. The 4.x series does have an excellent > performance record that can't be questioned, however, 5.x gets the > job done for me. > > > > > What you can "get" in terms of throughput doesn't always give you > > the right answer. My tests measure kernel performance; as I'm > > interested in routing/packet-processing performance. Sockets add > > a tricky variable. But I take the IP stack out of the equation > > altogether > > by bridging packets through a box, and I prefer to use a 50% load > > as timings sometimes change when you start to saturate things > > unnaturally. You won't be running your machine at 100% load, so > > it makes no sense to test it that way. > > > > For the latest test I have a 3.06Ghz xeon bridging 486,000pps. > > For FreeBSD 4.9, this is a 50% load. The load under 5.4 is 65%. > > It tests interrupt and process switching performance, which for > > a networking device is a key performance indicator. (I think) > > that the 5.4 kernel is threaded, so there are latencies that > > are very difficult to overcome. Linux has been threaded for > > a long time, and always has been a poor Uniprocessor > > performer. 5.4 is better than linux with one processor, > > but if you are UP then > > 4.x is clearly the way to go. Linux kills 5.4 with dual > > processors; in fact 5.4 seems to have higher network > > performance with 1 processor than 2. They still have > > a lot of issues to work out. DragonflyBSD has done a > > nice job with MP, but their performance is still a work > > in progress. For UP, their performance is dismal so > > its not quite where it needs to be, but its promising. > > > > My tests are focused around simple network I/O and saturate all the > other subsystems before making the kernel break a sweat, MP or UP. > Curiously, all of my tests have never caused excessive CPU utilization > on 5.x, and do seem to consume more CPU resources on 4.x. I was > attributing this behavior to the scheduling and GIANT lock issues of > 5.x . It's interesting to learn about your testing and that you are > capable of stressing the Kernel so easily. The tests I perform I > utilize my production and non production applications so that I could > measure what the net affect of OS performance would be in my > environment. I used to focus tests on more esoteric what if > scenarios, even trying to optimize my code before it was done, etc. I > have found over the years that performance is a tricky beast to catch. > Being a performance junkie like myself tends to make me focus on the > performance that I don't need rather than the performance that I do. > I still think about the 400HP Camero that I drove to get groceries, > and it still puts a smile on my face. > > > I just wish that they had done a 64-bit version of > > 4.x. Because at the moment it seems that there is > > no way to utilize the opteron fully without having > > to use a slow version of the OS, which negates > > the gains. Its a real shame. > > The bottom line in all of this is that 5.x and newer is where FreeBSD > is going and 4.x and older is now legacy software weather we like it > or not. In my mind this puts us in a postion to do one of the > following: > 1) Focus our efforts on 4.11 that's being replaced anyway. > 2) Stop using FreeBSD and use Linux, Solaris, OpenBSD, ...... > 3) Write our own OS that will solve all the worlds problems. > 4) Accept the leadership and direction of the FreeBSD team and help > them make 5.x and newer the OS that we know that it can be. > > Clearly option 4 is the best choice for FreeBSD and it's users for a > number of reasons. The developers need people to use the software > that they are working on so that they can improve it. In your case > you could help the developers identify the performance issues that you > are facing so that they can make improvements that would benefit you > and all the other users that need routing/packet-processing > performance. The dramatic changes made 5.x and newer can't be over > stated. Essentially they are writing a new OS the hard way. They > have to keep one foot behind while trying to move people forward with > very few resources. I'm truly amazed that they have made it this far. > Additionally, the core team chose to implement technologies that are > technically superior, but are very difficult to implement. Even with > the massive amount of resources that the Linux community has, they > have opted to hold off on these types of technologies for easier > solutions until they can implement them down the road. If we as a > community, get on board with the developers we will ultimately be able > to take advantage of these technologies, and will have a mature > solution when other projects are just starting to go down this > difficult journey. > > I didn't really realize this myself until recently and wanted to share > my perspective. I know this has gotten of topic from the original > post and I apologize for that. > > --Nick > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:55:14 -0500, em1897@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > :Boris, > > > : I would agree that my initial impression of 5.3 was that it was > > slow > > > :compared to 4.x. After some tuning, I now have 5.3 running at an > > > :acceptable performance level. You may want to start testing the > > newer > > > :versions of 5 current. I have noticed improved performance on my > > test > > > :servers and believe that 5.4 will demonstrate an improvement in > > > :performance. I know that the guys on the performance list would > like > > > :to get some good feedback if you find any specific bottlenecks with > > it > > > :as well. > > > : > > > :--Nick > > > > > > FYI, I recently testing bridging/network performance on 5.4-pre and > > its > > > about the same as 5.3: 25 to 30% more CPU load for the same traffic > > > levels than 4.x. SMP drops packets at about 60% load and seems to > > > have a lower capacity than UP. I'm sure some things are faster, but > > > networking is a large component for most people I think. > > > Threaded network stacks just don't seem to perform well, > > > certainly not on UP. Linux MP works much better, but > > > with 2 CPUs it has the capacity of FreeBSD 4.x with 1. > > > So its hard to justify. > > > > > > FWIW, its quite a bit better with UP than DragonFLY, but > > > dragonfly is much better with 2 processors. > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:43 -0800 (PST), Boris Spirialitious > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- cyb wrote: > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64.html > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you will need to use 5.3-release (or > > > > > 5.3-stable/5.4-prerelease if you have more than > > > > > 4GB). > > > > > > > > > > Why can you not use 5.3? > > > > > > > > 5.3 is too slow, and we have custom code. Why use > > > > faster hardware just to use slower version of O/S? > > > > Please don't start with flames. This is what I > > > > feel. > > > > > > > > I don't need so much RAM, so 4.x will work with > > > > 1 or 2GB of RAM? > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:43 -0800, Boris > > > > > Spirialitious wrote: > > > > > > --- Boris Spirialitious > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > > > > > 4.9. > > > > > > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > > > > > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > > > > > > big problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know answer please? Someone must use > > > > > > Opteron here > > > > > > > > > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | > > > > > http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc > > > > > Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B > > > > > 0372 D25F CC81 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > > > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 02:26:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7947E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546E243D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2K2QOi6000367; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2K2QMSr002019; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:26:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5d683828050319174485fb36a@mail.gmail.com> References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> <5d683828050319174485fb36a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:26:21 -0500 To: Jason Crawford X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:26:25 -0000 On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked > about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it > was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. [ ... ] You are the one making claims about what FreeBSD users find unacceptable, at least supposedly. The complete lack of evidence you've provided so far to support your assertion is underwhelming. I don't care if you look at the mailing lists, Usenet postings, web sites, or anything else that can be independently confirmed. Your words alone lack credibility. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 02:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BDF16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8977643D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so651341rne for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=SMRmswBJmstEGY2oq6TehVsHmlVQsRgvYqqxEwp/w2eZipcaKTEzf0NCNHcKK5SkqROKRGAmdeV28yCe+eFErPtPnqO1vNx/lsz9v3iUr7NgIcrU+ZALPzZZiacR49DFtUlFKAmiKE0edXn0B7RpVUITWLUPdbhn6XRbGOh0Uyo= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr3618220rnj; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:30:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805031918304610bbe3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:53 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> <5d683828050319174485fb36a@mail.gmail.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:30:54 -0000 I never claimed that it was freebsd users that found it unacceptable. If you'll read my email, instead of just brushing through it, you'll see there isn't a part where I say, this is unacceptable to freebsd users. The fact that someone claims to support freedom of choice, and then removes choice from his users, is just shoking to me, and the fact that you seem to support that is also shocking. The lack of support, and indeed fighting on this subject is so surprising to me. I would think a "Free" operating system would support freedom, but it appears that all freebsd users just want to do away with it instead, to get something that works "good enough" instead of real freedom, more than just freedom of choice. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:26:21 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > So something is only unacceptable if it has been previously talked > > about on a freebsd mailing list? Wow that's one big ego there. If it > > was acceptable, none of this would be happening, but it is. [ ... ] > > You are the one making claims about what FreeBSD users find > unacceptable, at least supposedly. > > The complete lack of evidence you've provided so far to support your > assertion is underwhelming. I don't care if you look at the mailing > lists, Usenet postings, web sites, or anything else that can be > independently confirmed. Your words alone lack credibility. > > -- > -Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 02:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB13A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:53:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BD243D70 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:53:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9745321C901 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64193-04 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15821C8FD for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:33 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:18 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503191354.38712.kirk@strauser.com> <20050319202241.GQ4572@seekingfire.com> In-Reply-To: <20050319202241.GQ4572@seekingfire.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4468837.lT98K8vi3x"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503192053.32853.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:53:36 -0000 --nextPart4468837.lT98K8vi3x Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't,=20 though? I'm loathe to replace the working installation if I don't have to. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart4468837.lT98K8vi3x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCPOWs5sRg+Y0CpvERAuDBAJ9TVBqB23psIEn99yObG1Kbu2aLjgCeK6JD tLcGv4QmSE3pQ++SbX6Cbl8= =a3Kr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4468837.lT98K8vi3x-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:05:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B20E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:05:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948AB43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so543875rna for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:05:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XMKCldNTuboI7sixI7Ra6Hq/cH+o5Zm8zvgw5xRzKtjSnuPqXqqy3T7GYTiBVOvHmbxtexuMXUSQrfaHoe/d2Ka23x21mUNTDSlG+H7kIF+LFPIUxALw1T9ay2kVvGm+vHIy5zOu7FqvyVA3rnrmfFAYB6iPTTctabtGoN2viKA= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr3658036rnb; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:05:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805031919052725b2f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:05:19 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Sean Hafeez In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503191927.j2JJRn25021821@cvs.openbsd.org> cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt cc: "Richardson, Doug" Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:05:20 -0000 Theo has already talked with enough people to get the number of over 1,800 adaptec aac raid controllers being currently used by openbsd users. He has emailed this to Doug, Adaptec's contract for opening docs, and still nothing. It appears that Adaptec isn't interested in repeat business for probably over 2,000 cards in total, not just raid cards. Sad that even stating how much money they will be losing (or making) doesn't get them to change their stance. Jason On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:29 -0800, Sean Hafeez wrote: > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. The vendors need a business > case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I > can agree with that. Maybe we can do some sort of list of companies or > OpenBSD people that use or would use the cards - along with number and > install base study of the number of sales they would get and give it to > them. We should work on some sort of cookie cutter type setup that > tracks the interest and $$ with a product that we can compile and be > sent to the vendor in order to get support. The data needs to be > correct and true and presented in a business case manor. The one-off > flock of emails just do not work. I would be happy to help with this > and pursue this if there are others that think it is a good idea. > > Also is there needs to be a stock form that is send the vendors that > covers in detail what we ask for. Some that can be vetted by their > lawyer that they would be OK with. We need to work with the vendors in > a clear, clean business like manner and leave emotion and philosophy > out of it. > > This is just my 2 cents. If you do not like it, oh well. > > Regards, > Sean Hafeez > > "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to > philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is > the utility of the final product." > > - Lectures On The Electrical Properties Of Materials, L. Solymar, D. > Walsh > > > On Mar 19, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > re: http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10032&offset=15&rows=28 > > > > See a posting from Scott Long of FreeBSD; > > > > --- > > Thanks for going to a public forum and saying I am full of crap. > > > > I really appreciate that. Boy, you sure do want to see all of > > our projects do well, don't you. > > > > Apparently you have zero idea of where we are going. > > > > While you are content with shipping binary stuff in your source tree > > and in your ports tree, we are not. We do not ship binaries. We are > > not interested in shipping a binary for some CLI. We actually do have > > the Linux CLI working in emulation, but we will not supply it to our > > user community. I have cancelled that effort by that developer. We > > will not supply something to our user community that they cannot fix > > and improve themselves. > > > > We have been talking with Adaptec for 4 months. They have not > > given us management information. > > > > We have been talking to Adaptec for more than a year to get other RAID > > controller information, as in, how to even get the mailbox stuff > > fixed. They have not given that to us, either. > > > > Noone thought to talk to you. You are, I am sure, under a > > non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would > > therefore not give us documentation. We are quite used to FreeBSD and > > Linux people signing NDA's by now. Yesterday on the phone Doug said > > "But we did give OpenBSD documentation, we gave them to Scott Long". > > > > Thus, Doug mentioned that *you* had documentation, and thought that > > was enough. Of course it is not. You do not help us, I told him. > > That is not how it works. And so it stands -- we still have no > > documentation. > > > > Did I get an offer from you for documentation before you went onto a > > public site and said I was full of crap? No, I did not. > > > > And I expect that now that you have said I am full of crap, we still > > will get no documentation from you. Right? > > > > > > We are working on a driver-independent raid management framework. One > > command (perhaps called raidctl(4), we don't know) that should work on > > any controller from any vendor, which would do management, because the > > management stuff would be abstracted in a driver-independent way into > > each driver. Yes this is a difficult project. We have support for > > AMI almost working. We will support some other product, as well, then > > we'll see where Adaptec stands. > > > > I do a lot of work on OpenBSD. I am sure that you do a lot of work on > > your stuff in FreeBSD too, so you know what it is to be a very busy > > busy person. > > > > When a vendor ignores me and the efforts of 4 other people trying to > > get the vendor to listen -- for that long, we have no choice. > > > > Yet, you, Scott, you think that you are therefore able to slag us and > > call us wrong, because YOU are in the loop and we are not? Because > > you used to WORK at Adaptec, and we did not? That somehow makes us > > full of crap? > > > > I have been watching the mail going to Doug over the last 24 hours. > > > > I have been counting controllers mentioned in mails and am now up to > > over 1,800 Adaptec RAID controllers, with people from very large > > commercial operations complaining that they have been switching to > > other controllers (or, having now seen Adaptec's failure in this > > regard, that they will now actively not buy Adaptec again). > > > > Those controllers will not be supported in OpenBSD 3.7 in May. If > > Adaptec wishes them to be supported in a future release, they had > > better come and make amends. We are sick of supporting the hardware > > of vendors who shit on their customers via us. Maybe they can repair > > this horrid situation enough that we will once again support their > > controllers by the time OpenBSD 3.8 ships in November. > > > > Quite frankly, you don't understand what we are trying to do, and > > Scott, this is just like the binary only Atheros driver that FreeBSD > > ships. > > > > I like it when all hardware is supported with source code, but just > > because our methods for getting there are different than yours, Scott, > > that gives you absolutely no right to go posting such a thing as you > > did there. > > > > Shame on you. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:07:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2816A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C8843D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:07:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2K37Vvs005282; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503200307.j2K37Vvs005282@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Ben Goren In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:04:16 MST." Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:31 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: Scott Long cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:07:18 -0000 Well spoken, Ben. Very well spoken. > On 2005 Mar 19, at 1:21 PM, Scott Long wrote: > > > The hardware is tricky > > to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different > > firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all > > documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge. > > I used to think good things of Adaptec hardware, and always figured > they'd be at the top of any list I ever put together should I need to > buy RAID hardware. > > This one paragraph has all but convinced me that I'd be nuts to do so. > > First, we have an ex-employee stating that the stuff is ``tricky'' and > full of bugs. Not something I want to trust critical data to. > > Next, that different cards and different firmware versions have bugs > that ``often need to be worked around'' also does not inspire > confidence. If Adaptec *knows* about these bugs, why is it left to the > driver to fix? Why hasn't it been fixed *IN*THE*FIRMWARE*? > > Finally, we learn that these bugs are semi-public knowledge...but that > Adaptec is *STILL* refusing to provide the information necessary to > work around them. Instead, you have to hope that their ex-employees > follow through with offers to share their knowledge. > > Those are three serious strikes. Any one of them would be a probable > deal-breaker for me. > > While I'm sure nobody's perfect...surely there are other vendors who > produce products which aren't so buggy in the first place, who fix > their bugs once they find them, and warn people what to look out for? > > Frankly, if Mr. Long is providing an accurate description of the > quality of Adaptec products--and, after all, he used to work there, so > he should know--then I'd say that Theo would be nuts *not* to pull > support from them. After all, why should OpenBSD get blamed for > Adaptec's crap? > > Cheers, > > b& > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of PGP.sig] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:11:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BF416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:11:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4C843D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2K3BEUQ002519 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:11:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2K3BECB002518 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:11:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:11:13 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050320031113.GA2464@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: how do i add 5.3 to my drive with w2k? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:11:15 -0000 hi gang, i just installed w2k with firefox and more on the 1st 10g of my 160g drive. i'm ready to install freebsd 5.3 on the remainder. can i get by using the default fbsd boot loader? tips and advice, please. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:16:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:16:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9CA43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:16:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2K3GO9B032325; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503200316.j2K3GO9B032325@cvs.openbsd.org> To: misc@cvs.openbsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:24 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mail Delivery Subsystem: Returned mail: see transcript for details X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:16:10 -0000 Adaptec, as a vendor, really cares about you. That is why their commercial contacts disable their email accounts when the shit hits the fan. That is Doug Richardson Title? Global Channel Marketing Manager The guy who said *HE* was the one responsible for changing views within Adaptec. Buggy hardware, lies about freedom... lies. OpenBSD 3.7 ships without Adaptec RAID support. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 : Recipient address rejected: No such user (doug_richardson@adaptec.com)) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to aimspam1.adaptec.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 : Recipient address rejected: No such user (doug_richardson@adaptec.com) 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown - --j2K37Hr00590.1111288037/magic.adaptec.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:27:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8073516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:27:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF67843D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:27:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2K3Rdl8023802; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:27:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503200327.j2K3Rdl8023802@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Sean Hafeez In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:02:29 PST." Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:27:39 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:27:25 -0000 > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Well, there is. We do it all the time! We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some other developer, maybe even Bill Paul from FreeBSD (Mr. Ethernet)... anyways, people like that.. ) explain the business case to the vendor. They almost always understand, and then give us documentation. Sometimes they open the documentation wide up! Sometimes they are willing to give us documentation as long as we do not distribute it too far, and we are willing to do that. We normally share it with, say, 3-4 developers, to ensure that the job gets done and that there someone can fix it later. This also ensures that the documentation stays around in someone's hands even if the company goes away (like Adaptec might after the FTC gets finished with them?) I spend a LOT of time explaining the business case. When vendors do not work with us, they are the odd vendors. Normally they are companies with strong USA stock profiles. I don't know if that has something to do with it, but I suspect it does. And normally they are ones that people, down underground, know produce crap. This also ties into how sometimes it is very hard for us to support their hardware. But, and I must emphasize this, 90% of companies *do* come around. > The vendors need a business > case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I > can agree with that. Maybe we can do some sort of list of companies or > OpenBSD people that use or would use the cards - along with number and > install base study of the number of sales they would get and give it to > them. We should work on some sort of cookie cutter type setup that > tracks the interest and $$ with a product that we can compile and be > sent to the vendor in order to get support. The data needs to be > correct and true and presented in a business case manor. The one-off > flock of emails just do not work. I would be happy to help with this > and pursue this if there are others that think it is a good idea. I have thought about doing this, but it is a lot of work. I think we all know what needs to be done to make this accurate. It is a very big job and it needs one passionate person to run it from start to end. It cannot at this time be me, sorry. > Also is there needs to be a stock form that is send the vendors that > covers in detail what we ask for. I do not think so. I write each mail to the vendors individually, taking the situation and the market into account. I research the market at the stock level, and I ask people in various parts of the world to help me form a profile of what chips are showing up there. If not done carefully, they will be right to take me for a crank. > Some that can be vetted by their lawyer that they would be OK with. When the lawyers get involved, that is when the companies make bad decisions and lose. OpenBSD 3.7 will ship with aac off. Adaptec just lost. No matter how they sell it within their own ranks, they just lost. Unless they have something to hide, like crap cards with hundreds of unrepearable bugs and a history of selling crap to customers after knowing that their product was not meeting the promises they make. But what do I know for sure. I do however believe they are balancing two choices of reality. > We need to work with the vendors in > a clear, clean business like manner and leave emotion and philosophy > out of it. I do. It is hard. I do it every day. Last week we got Ralink documentation. I am working on Realtek for their 802.11g docs now. And in a few days, if Realtek keeps stalling me, you will hear from me as to where to send your mails. And then we can get further at supporting a chipset. One way or another, at some point we must get *ahead* of Microsoft at supporting new hardware products on the market. (Show this previous line to your Linux friends) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 03:54:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E95316A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (natasha.tepid.org [68.148.0.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130CE43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from weingart@tepid.org) Received: from natasha.tepid.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by natasha.tepid.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1983F3C; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:54:24 -0700 (MST) To: Sean Hafeez In-Reply-To: Message from Sean Hafeez Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: <28235.1111290864@natasha.tepid.org> From: Tobias Weingartner cc: weingart@tepid.org cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:54:25 -0000 On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: > > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors in order to > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw you guys, I > am going home" stuff just does not work. Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long time. If you know of an approach that works, please demonstrate. At this point, I believe that the community would welcome someone that is going to step up, and have adaptec supply the documentation because they negotiated it out of them. Words here are cheap... but at the current time, they are the only thing we really have left. The voice of the community. > The vendors need a business > case in order to do things - they are in business to make money and I > can agree with that. They have a business case. More than one. 1800+ cards is not a business case? The points I brought up are not a business case? The bad press and such are not a business case? Give me a break. --Toby. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 04:15:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E08816A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:15:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC01943D49 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:15:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DCrqR-000O8t-19; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 -0500 Received: from 24.98.86.57 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1795.24.98.86.57.1111292119.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:15:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: "Mike Jeays" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:15:20 -0000 I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. At my day job, we have 9 exchange servers around the world, with about 1500 mailboxes, so not a huge install, but in the past 5 years, calendaring, email and public folders have become a critical component of the business, and any bit of unavailability isn't tolerated. Now, we are fortunate that we have several really good windows/exchange guys to keep things humming, but it is clear that the business demands of calendaring and email are outstripping the ability of MS to deliver. We, along with many other organizations, are really looking at ways to achieve 99.999% uptime on exchange, but we're realy kidding ourselves. Something like communigate pro, that can be clustered and run on a non-windows OS could move us closer to the mark, but still not really there. The OS' and apps just aren't meant for that type of availability yet. Jerry > A definite career-limiting move. > > It is a major reason why we can't go to a fully open source desktop. > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 04:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A240316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:53:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A63043D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:53:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johansen.m@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so224678rny for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e4d4FPD3wfNnf2RGNdH0Y7iTnaCxAHDw+SJBTNRKfFyCOJhy55P24DQ2zYzWOnXUhjE00d5aeeZMnSJNup/D6rz8DDxOdgr1u0IZpr23Y7PAwf7ZSfGDzBYq5Hx739OZ8PXLFQI+vmPDhqL1Wn7MoFuI55pjSNN8pBn/hMnl5LE= Received: by 10.38.179.2 with SMTP id b2mr1346307rnf; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.206.11 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:53:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:53:20 +0100 From: Morten Johansen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Theo de Raadt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Morten Johansen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 04:53:21 -0000 Bill Sommerfeld is one of the architects of NetBSD's SMP support, which was imported into OpenBSD recently. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html Subject: another wonderful Theoism. To: None From: Bill Sommerfeld List: netbsd-users Date: 11/15/1993 16:27:50 The following is being quoted from private mail under the doctrine of "fair use". Mr. Deraadt made the following [patently false] statement about the FreeBSD team: > They have not written a line of code > themselves, and I challenge you to prove otherwise to me. He later admitted that they *had*, in fact, written some code. It's clear that he's not being rational about FreeBSD. - Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 05:06:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C25216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:06:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0291A43D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Mar 2005 05:06:51 -0000 Received: from pD9514C94.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [217.81.76.148] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 06:06:51 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:06:49 +0100 From: Mario Hoerich To: Morten Johansen Message-ID: <20050320050648.GA8339@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Theo de Raadt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:06:54 -0000 # Morten Johansen: [ http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/1993/11/15/0003.html ] > > Date: 11/15/1993 16:27:50 [...] > Mr. Deraadt made the following [patently false] statement about the > FreeBSD team: [...] Well? Is there any point other than fanning the flames to this? Let's just state the obvious here: That posting is more than _eleven_ years old. It thus dates back to a time where the FreeBSD project had just about started. Not exactly significant now, don't you think? Mario From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 06:01:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BB416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:01:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net (ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net [64.126.4.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C276043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:01:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marsh.lists.openbsd.org@mysteray.com) Received: from conversion-daemon.ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net by ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) id <0IDM00001Z1K2700@ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net> (original mail from marsh.lists.openbsd.org@mysteray.com) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from barney.mysteray.com (64-126-84-7-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net [64.126.84.7]) by ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDM008SQZF49NE0@ksle966mailxc3.everestkc.net>; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.23.89] (prairie.mysteray.com [192.168.23.89]) by barney.mysteray.com (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2K63jQC031520; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:03:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:01:44 -0600 From: "Marsh J. Ray" In-reply-to: <8040f9834c7cf23f340b1e836add7a81@mac.com> To: Charles Swiger , misc@openbsd.org, freebsd list Message-id: <423D11C8.8080805@mysteray.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> <8040f9834c7cf23f340b1e836add7a81@mac.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:01:54 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > Sorry, did not find the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli > > See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/aac Yep, definitely not the sources for ports/sysutils/aaccli. - Marsh J. Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 06:24:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A37F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebsdportal.com (freebsdportal.com [161.58.142.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB35A43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdf@freebsdportal.com) Received: from freebsdportal.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsdportal.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2K6OtW0069224 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:55 GMT Received: (from jdf@localhost) by freebsdportal.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2K6OsNE069219 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:54 GMT Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:54 +0000 From: Jim Freeze To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320062454.GA58541@freeze.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Does 5.3 support Raid 1 on VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:24:57 -0000 Hi I am trying to install 5.3 on a system with an on board raid controller (VT8237), but am having troubles getting the installer to see the raid drive. I have configured the drive in the bios as Raid 1, but the installer shows two drives. Some helpful specs are: Motherboard: ECS EliteGroup PT800CE-A Onboard Raid: VIA VT8237 Thanks -- Jim Freeze From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 06:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AD716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:59:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AF343D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:59:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 218CF86; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:59:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:59:58 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320065958.GS4572@seekingfire.com> References: <200503191354.38712.kirk@strauser.com> <20050319202241.GQ4572@seekingfire.com> <200503192053.32853.kirk@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503192053.32853.kirk@strauser.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: ksu doesn't use my ticket X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:59:59 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 08:53:18PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Saturday 19 March 2005 02:22 pm, Tillman Hodgson wrote: > > > The ksu from the mit-krb5 port works the way you expect it to. > > Thanks for the info. Any idea why the one in the base system wouldn't, > though? I'm loathe to replace the working installation if I don't have to. No need to replace it -- mit-krb5 installs into /usr/local (unless you move it with /etc/make.conf). It won't overlap with your base system Kerberos bits at all. Then, once it's installed, you can "alias ksu='usr/local/bin/ksu'". The Heimdal in the base system isn't complete in any case, so if you decide to go whole-hog for Kerberos you'll want one of (or both of) the ports installed. -T -- "Beauty is not diminished by being shared." -- Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6FF16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629A643D48 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 21F4F1C0008B for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:19:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EAE711C0008A for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:19:22 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320071922962.EAE711C0008A@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:19:22 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <926413584.20050320081922@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <200503181627.06020@harrymail> <526177289.20050319004436@wanadoo.fr> <945833672.20050319090942@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:19:25 -0000 Nick Pavlica writes: > I referenced the Novell GroupWise product. I'm not sure what you > were referencing with the generic "Groupware" that you mentioned. Within this context they are roughly the same thing. > It's clear that you have little knowledge of this technology and may > want to spend some time learning about it before making blanket > statements about it. I provided enterprise support on messaging systems for years. I know a great deal about it. > My biggest concern is that you don't miss lead someone else on this > list. GroupWise is superior to Exchange in almost every aspect. In terms of messaging, GroupWise is markedly inferior to Exchange. Most companies require messaging more than anything else, without a few "groupware" functions (I put this in quotation marks because it tends to have a very wooly definition). Given this, they need a system that does messaging better than anything else, and that's Exchange. Exchange was designed from the ground up to handle electronic mail, and it does that extraordinarily well. The limited so-called groupware functions it provides were added as afterthoughts. But since this design (e-mail first, with a bit of groupware) closely corresponds to what many large organizations actually require, Exchange turns out to be an excellent fit for many enterprises. > As a straight mail server/"messaging server" Exchange in any > version doesn't hold a candle to the available *nix bases solutions. The opposite is also true. In other words, they address different markets. I wouldn't put Exchange in service at an ISP or in a company with only 60 employees, but I would strongly recommend it in a multinational company with 45,000 employees spread around the world. In the former cases, Exchange is too bloated and expensive for the purpose; in the latter case, Exchange is ideal for the purpose, and its size and expense pale in comparison to the scale of deployment and the resources of the organization using it. > Exchange has it's place with out a doubt, but please don't try to wave > the Exchange flag to someone that knows better. There are few things about which I'm more qualified to speak than Exchange and electronic messaging. Proof of this is that I've spent my entire post discussing the product and the technology--whereas you spent your entire post trying to tell me I'm stupid. Which style do you think is more informative and persuasive? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:22:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AE143D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from [10.0.0.101] (cpe-66-8-191-104.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.191.104])j2K7M8Ff025518; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:22:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423D24A0.3000209@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:22:08 -1000 From: Robert Marella User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peer_B=F6hm?= References: <423B9296.7040700@sv-bg.com> <423BEE99.3030002@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <423BEE99.3030002@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: USB block dev, Olympus Camedia digital camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:12 -0000 Peer Böhm wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am new to BSD-style operating systems, and currently reading about and > seriously considering a migration from Linux to free BSD on my home machine. > > Before I do that, I would like to make sure (as far as possible) that my > critical applications will continue to work, one way or the other. > > It seems that the Olympus Camedia (C-1) digital camera does have some > quirks that require a cludge for the kernel, so it can be mounted as a > block dev for my Linux kernel version, although I hear that newer > kernels do support that quirk out of the box. > > I was wondering, whether anyone here is using such a camera under > freeBSD, and can tell me whether it can be mounted under 5.3 without > such a hack. > > Thanks in advance, > Peer > ___ Hello Peer I have an Olympus Camedia 3000 Zoom and it will not work directly connected via usb with FreeBSD. Your best bet is to get a usb card reader and then plug your card into it. I find it quicker and easier doing it that way. Good Luck Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:25:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E40F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:25:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E143D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K7Ovb20436; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Charles Swiger" Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 23:24:47 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <435aa969867f07bebeed861c27283f40@mac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:25:01 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Swiger [mailto:cswiger@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:43 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: misc@openbsd.org; Theo de Raadt; freebsd list > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > Maybe I was thinking of the PERC 3, then-- this one: > In that case Dell is a customer of Adaptec, not the other way around, so any NDA that Dell might require for Adaptec to sign would not have restricted Adaptec's use of it's own programming documentation. > > > And as for the i860, there's tons of programming docs on the > Internet > > out > > there for it, once again, it's already open. > > You've failed to address the point. Do you claim that Adaptec is in a > position to ignore an NDA they have with a company like Intel or Dell? > The point is they obviously don't have an NDA with Intel since the programming docs for the i860 are open already. (at least the don't have an NDA that covers this aspect of their relationship, which is all we care about) The original point you were attempting to make, as I understand it, is that any of Adaptec's chip suppliers could have placed Adaptec under an NDA which would have forced Adaptec to then place an NDA on anyone wanting to write drivers for their products. The point I made was that Adaptec is such a large customer and represents such a large amount of money in sales to any chip vendor, that if any chip vendor of Adaptec's attempted to force Adaptec into an NDA, Adaptec would simply tell them if the NDA was a requirement they would just go buy silicone from someone else who wasn't insistent on an NDA. The supplier would then have a choice of losing millions in sales or not forcing Adaptec to sign an NDA. I think it's obvious that no supplier would force an NDA, and given Adaptec's size today, it's obvious that no current vendor supplying them has them under such a thing for this reason. Despite what you seem to think, companies on the whole always seek to avoid signing NDAs as they just give people grounds to sue them. > > I'm not interested in sophistry about Theo's "moral obligations" to > OpenBSD users. > > The basis for my position is simply one of "does the system > work better after the change"? The AAC driver now in OpenBSD evidently works well > enough that thousands of OpenBSD users would be critically affected by > its removal. I'm perfectly willing to disagree with people who feel > that breaking OpenBSD is a constructive action, and all the egocentric > posturing does nothing to hide the nature of this change. Quite the > contrary, in fact. > Well I think Theo's point is that OpenBSD is already broken by the introduction of this incomplete driver, and his action to remove it is rather fixing the problem, not breaking anything. > I would never choose to do business either with Theo or with > you, to be > very honest. I don't think I could rely on you to act > sensibly even in > your own best interest, much less be reliable acting together in a > mutually beneficial partnership. > I couldn't possibly do business with anyone who does not have a moral compass of any sort. The people who run their business purely on what they term "sensible mutually beneficial interest" or whatever terms you seem to use, are dangerous. In a blink of an eye if conditions change, they are screwing their customers and their partners. I *I* ever agreed to work with you in a partnership, I would complete the term of the partnership, even if it became non-mutually beneficial before the agreed on end came about. That is far more than you can say to me. There comes a time in any business where you are faced with a decision of do you do the right thing, or do you do the convenient thing? Theo feels that leaving AAC in is the convenient thing, not the right thing. He has a strong philosophical, moral, argument for this. I disagree with some of the foundation of this argument, but I think that it IS a consistent, moral argument. I do happen to agree that whether or not thousands of OpenBSD users would be affected by AAC's removal is less important than OpenBSD not rewarding vendors like Adaptec who don't provide programming docs. If leaving AAC in there does reward a vendor who isn't doing the right thing, then yes, pull it out. I don't agree that leaving it in is rewarding Adaptec, but I do agree that IF it were so, that pulling AAC is the right thing to do. People like yourself who seem to distain doing business with a moral compass are the same ones that make decision after decision that makes you slide further and further down the slope. So, they leave in AAC because a few thousand users would be affected. Then, what do they say to the next vendor that comes along who wants them to include one of their own proprietary drivers? Keep that up and pretty soon the entire driver set in the operating system is binary proprietary drivers, and you have lost control of the distribution. Theo is putting down his foot now, before things get that bad. This I feel is a decision that will hurt him in the short run, but in the long run he will be better off. I may not agree with it, but I respect it, which is a lot more than I can say for your argument for keeping AAC. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:28:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1949316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:28:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5935943D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AEF61C00089 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:28:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 59C451C00083 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:28:43 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320072843367.59C451C00083@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:28:43 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503191920.47816.durham@jcdurham.com> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <200503191920.47816.durham@jcdurham.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:28:45 -0000 Jim Durham writes: > Personally, I wouldn't wish Exchange on my worst enemy. It uses a > database to store mail and, if that database becomes corrupted, > you can lose all the email for the company. All e-mail systems use a database of some type; the only differences are in how visible the structure of the database is to the outside world. Exchange uses a custom variation of the database manager used by Access, called (if things haven't changed recently) Jet Blue. It was chosen because it was compact and performant and placed relatively few restrictions on the format of the data stored within it. If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). One advantage of Exchange is that only the Exchange Server accesses the database; everyone else communicates with the server, but does not access the database directly. Since many cases of database corruption arise when independent processes access a single database, this eliminates an important point of failure. > This will make you extremely unpopular. We had it happen once and just > moved everyone over to Sendmail and never lost an email for 5 years > now. Clearly, your organization had no need for any of the advanced features Exchanges provides. In some companies, a move from Exchange to sendmail would engender the creation of lynch mobs. Users tend to become very attached to Exchange features. I've seen Exchange servers run for years without any instance of database corruption, and it's not a serious problem. > It also has no concept of how internet mail works. It > creates an environment where, if you are not running Outlook, > you are "outside the loop". It is its own world and not really > internet mail as we know it. Proprietary systems always work that way. Exchange works that way because virtually all the features it provides are unknown to the relatively simple Internet e-mail standards. It _has_ to do it in a proprietary way, because there isn't any standard way. There are no RFCs explaining how to share calendar information across an e-mail network. Nevertheless, Exchange does communicate with other MTAs without any trouble using standard Internet protocols. > Also, you have to run it on a Windows "server". which is not a > server at all, but a glorified 2000 box or XP box. Actually, you have it backwards. Windows-NT based boxes on the desktop are actually scaled-down servers. NT and its successors (200x and XP) were designed primarily as server operating systems. Exchange is tightly integrated into the Windows server architecture and runs very well with it. However, it's also true that it won't run on anything else. It's best to have Windows servers dedicated to Exchange (if the organization is so small that it can get by with Exchange running on a more general-purpose machine, it's probably too small to profit from Exchange). > Anything that wants you to kick off all the users just because you > installed a new piece of software is a toy server. You don't want to > deal with that in a 24/7 world. There's never a time you can do that > unless you *like* coming in Sunday night at midnight! You don't install things on a dedicated mail server. Once it's up and running, it stays unchanged for years at a time. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:32:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1E516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:32:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F59A43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:32:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F6DE1C00083 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3BDFD1C00081 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:09 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320073209245.3BDFD1C00081@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:09 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1936155371.20050320083209@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:32:10 -0000 Mike Jeays writes: > I have to disagree with this! In my organization, a government > department with about 6,000 staff ... I said FOR SMALL INSTALLATIONS, not organizations of 6000 people. I'm thinking more of small businesses with a single geographic location and perhaps in the range of 100 employees or so. They don't need Exchange. > ... the ability to schedule meetings and > book conference rooms has become an essential part of our computing > infrastructure. Any attempt to remove these features or reduce their > functionality from that provided by Outlook/Exchange would be met with > considerable hostility and the permanent sidelining of he/she who > proposed it. A definite career-limiting move. Hmm. First Jim Durham suggests chucking all this and replacing it with sendmail as a career-saving move, and now you suggest the opposite. You can't both be right. Anyway, I agree that taking these features away from people who are used to them is an extremely unwise move. People are spoiled by Exchange. > It is a major reason why we can't go to a fully open source desktop. I don't believe there are any fully open-source solutions that provide the same functionality. One of the advantages of proprietary solutions is that they are pretty much guaranteed to work as an integrated whole, which is never the case for open-source. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 07:37:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A73A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:37:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABF143D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4D6C1C0008B for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:36:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 916831C00087 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:36:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320073658595.916831C00087@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:36:58 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1795.24.98.86.57.1111292119.squirrel@24.98.86.57> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <423BEAD4.6040207@myunix.net> <245622616.20050319101955@wanadoo.fr> <423C1ACF.1050102@myunix.net> <1766695713.20050319222202@wanadoo.fr> <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> <1795.24.98.86.57.1111292119.squirrel@24.98.86.57> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:37:00 -0000 Jerry Bell writes: > I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility > service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their > shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. They get spoiled. I suppose there's no harm in that intrinsically, but it does tend to lock them into proprietary solutions (which isn't necessarily good or bad). > Now, we are fortunate that we have several really good > windows/exchange guys to keep things humming, but it is clear that the > business demands of calendaring and email are outstripping the ability > of MS to deliver. We, along with many other organizations, are really > looking at ways to achieve 99.999% uptime on exchange, but we're realy > kidding ourselves. Something like communigate pro, that can be > clustered and run on a non-windows OS could move us closer to the > mark, but still not really there. The OS' and apps just aren't meant > for that type of availability yet. There isn't any solution that will provide that kind of uptime today. Application systems that provide the functionality your users want are not sufficiently evolved or reliable to achieve utility-grade service. And since all of them are the work of companies that have spent most of their existence writing for PCs, I don't expect this goal to be reached any time soon. Nevertheless, Exchange is at the top of the list in this respect. It would be nice to have better, but this is the best available. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 08:05:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:05:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43FE43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gmeijer@palmweb.nl) Received: from guus (simoon.xs4all.nl [213.84.111.205]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j2K85F8t001054 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:05:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gmeijer@palmweb.nl) Message-ID: <016201c52d23$b18e5e90$9600000a@guus> From: "Gerard Meijer" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:06:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: server crash "panic: spin lock held too long" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:05:17 -0000 Hi I have a P4 2.6Mhz running on FreeBSD 5.3. Every few days the server crashes. When it crashes it says: spin lock sleepq chain held by 0xc1eb7640 for > 5 seconds panic: spin lock held too long Uptime: 2d3h56m36s Anybody any idea how I can fix this? Thanks! 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 08:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2990016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prometheus.the-keatings.com (prometheus.the-keatings.com [216.88.102.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E1543D5C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@the-keatings.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.the-keatings.com [127.0.0.1]) by prometheus.the-keatings.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAD7D5AE1; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from prometheus.the-keatings.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 22389-04; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from hades.the-keatings.com (hades.the-keatings.com [216.88.102.236]) by prometheus.the-keatings.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1A9D5ABE; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from MERCURY [216.88.102.239] by hades.the-keatings.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.12) id A70E6090058; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:40:46 -0600 From: "Mark Keating" To: "'Tobias Weingartner'" , "'Sean Hafeez'" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <28235.1111290864@natasha.tepid.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Thread-Index: AcUtIcTeGNkPuXrZR9qu48bxFJNEJgAAO8Dg Message-Id: <200503200240171.SM01132@MERCURY> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at the-keatings.com cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:21:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] > On Behalf Of Tobias Weingartner > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:54 PM > To: Sean Hafeez > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; misc@cvs.openbsd.org; > weingart@tepid.org > Subject: Re: aac support > > On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: > > > > There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors > in order to > > get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw > you guys, > > I am going home" stuff just does not work. > > Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long time. > If you know of an approach that works, please demonstrate. > At this point, I believe that the community would welcome > someone that is going to step up, and have adaptec supply the > documentation because they negotiated it out of them. Words > here are cheap... but at the current time, they are the only > thing we really have left. The voice of the community. > > > > The vendors need a business > > case in order to do things - they are in business to make > money and I > > can agree with that. > > They have a business case. More than one. 1800+ cards is > not a business case? The points I brought up are not a > business case? The bad press and such are not a business > case? Give me a break. > > > --Toby. > I work for one of these vendors. I know the release of documentation on one of the RAID controllers this company shipped for several years was not based on logic, let alone a $ amount. The decision was left to a single manager who waffled back and forth about whether the information should be released. The engineer who was pushing for the docs to be available eventually published them on a web site, indicating his company email address as a point of contact. It was a gutsy, yet arbitrary decision on his part that led to the opening of docs. After the release of the docs, the company started publishing their 'friedliness' to OSS. My experience tells me the only way to get the attention of people in a large company like Adaptec is to take drastic measures. If this means emailing people who can affect change until they are sufficiently annoyed to make a decision one way or another, so be it. It is most likely one of the few methods that will work. There is most likely a single person who will make the decision and it may boil down to whether they are having a good day or not. If their response is 'no', it will be stated that this is due to 'contractual obligations', 'intellectual property', 'on the advice of our lawyers..' or some other rubbish. As a user of OpenBSD, I am glad to see this stance taken (again). The people I admire in life are the people that stand up for their principles and are true to themselves and their beliefs. The people I despise are those that gladly sacrifice their stated beliefs to increase their wealth or comfort. OpenBSD does not support all of the hw I use. This is due to some of the hw being 'closed'. Some of it is not supported because the developers have not had enough interest in writing the driver. I did what I could by providing hw to some of the developers in the hope that it will be supported one day. Some of this hw is made by the company I work for, but it had to be provided out of my pocket because the company is too short sighted to see the benefit of providing hw to the OpenBSD team. They do freely use OpenSSH in a number of products however... It is unpopular these days to speak directly on issues. In my lowly opinion, Theo can be abrasive at times and I do not always agree with him. He seems to be morally and intellectually honest, and this is rare. The operating system he and the rest of the developers have given to us is true to their stated goals and has served me very well. For all of these reasons, I stand behind the OpenBSD team and will add Adaptec to the list of vendors I will not use or recommend (Intel, Broadcom, etc). mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 08:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDE243D5D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 541561C00096 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2AD391C00095 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320083233175.2AD391C00095@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:32 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <88453814.20050320093232@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050319112231.GA35477@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> <20050319112231.GA35477@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Serious issue with SATA disks again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:32:35 -0000 David Kelly writes: > Its impossible to _prove_ the software is _not_ at fault just as its > impossible to prove the hardware is not at fault. When software works > for others but not on your hardware then one can only conclude there is > _something_ about your hardware. It doesn't work for others. I found lots of messages complaining about this on various platforms, but no explanations. > With seemingly random timeouts such as you are seeing I would suspect > the SATA cable. SATA runs gigabits/sec and could be very sensitive. Try > a different cable from another source. I don't want suspicions, I want answers. Who generates the message, and exactly what does it mean? I see the string in ata-queue.c, and references in a couple of other modules, but as usual, there are no comments at all, so there's no way to figure out what's going on. > Also run the HD manufacturer's test utility. I don't think Western Digital has one (?). If it does, where can I find it? > "smartctl" from ports was also quite useful at reading the error log > maintained by the HD firmware. Interesting reading, such as my drive > temperature was 35, lifetime max/min was 19/45 (Celsius). I tried running the offline self-test, but it didn't seem to do anything. > It means the driver asked the HD to fill a buffer, but it didn't > complete the task within alloted time. Either the drive didn't begin, or > data was lost and fell short. Or there's a bug in the code. > A few years ago one of my then-new machines could not write a floppy in > FreeBSD but could in NT4. Tried lots of things, also got the attention > of the floppy driver maintainer. A few weeks later got the idea to > "Reset to Defaults" in the BIOS. Then reset the few specific things I > needed back the way they were. Magic. There was something undocumented > being set by BIOS at boot that didn't bother NT. Or that NT was programmed to handle (i.e., a better driver in NT than in FreeBSD). > More recently, in 5.2.1, I had no problems with a parallel ATA drive > with Hyperthreading enabled on my P4. No problems running sysinstall to > prep the new SATA drives. But the SATA drives locked the kernel solid > moments after first use. Disabled HT and all was fine. Something about > HT and the new Geom framework used for SATA (but not for PATA, at least > then) didn't work. Or something about the way FreeBSD handled this situation contained a bug. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 08:35:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C8D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:35:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7160A43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:35:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 945151C00090 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:35:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AB7B1C00089 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:35:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320083550437.6AB7B1C00089@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:35:50 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1210047979.20050320093550@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111232419.1737.25.camel@airen> References: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> <1111232419.1737.25.camel@airen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Serious issue with SATA disks again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:35:52 -0000 Erik de Jong writes: > FWIW, I had WRITE_DMA time outs as well, on a non-SATA disk of about 3 > years old. My instict told me to make that last backup real quick, so > that's what I did. The disk crashed about a week or two later. I'm an > absolute FreeBSD newbie, but hardware problems transcend OS > differences ;-) What made you think it was a hardware problem? > I worked in a large software company for a while and found out (much to > my own surprise at the time) that it's not always that easy. It's not > always a matter of "I wrote the code so I know what this message means". > Those messages could be anywhere in any piece of code involved at the > time of the error. It could be passed on by another piece of code > (firmware?). Somebody, somewhere knows what causes this error. > Second, code comes in many shapes and forms (and I think this is one > area where open and closed source are probably very similar): neat code, > sloppy code, quick fixes, things that really shouldn't be there, > absolute gems and everything in between. Such as code without any trace of comments, like I see in FreeBSD. > The BEST troubleshooting tip not matter what you trying to > resolve is: do not rule out anything. Including the operating system. > Obviously, I think you have a hardware issue, but that's only my > opinion. I'm just writing to share my own experience. Which hardware issue do I have? > You're writing that noone knows what these mysterious error messages > mean? This could very well be the case right now. Somebody wrote the code. > Perhaps the issue hasn't been troubleshot enough yet. It has been around for a least a year, judging by what I've found on the Net. > I think that having problems and having difficulty resolving them is far > from a FreeBSD problem. Report myserious error messages to any software > company and there's always a risk that they won't be easily resolved. That doesn't make it okay for FreeBSD. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:10:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760BC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:10:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA3743D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:10:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so509504rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LBjF05Us1NPKMHmK6uXIkURNJ7sZzB/Ff0V5kK9r1dmCsDPBMBPkpMK1NEcbNwzOhWL1Ogn62CjugmMx1klBXNy5bdHcOC5sj+qNSkVeml6IB1SeuN8nw+XwOqikiQNX4yPKS7v08Xiafiu/zGtHbNqLMMz5vrJso79wOW7WBmQ= Received: by 10.38.162.43 with SMTP id k43mr3717982rne; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:10:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:57 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Abu Khaled In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:10:58 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:32 +0200, Abu Khaled wrote: > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU > > Have you tried "man top" > > "WCPU, when displayed, is the weighted cpu percentage (this is the > same value that ps(1) displays as CPU), CPU is the raw percentage and > is the field that is sorted to determine the order of the processes." I read the top man but it does not explain what weighted cpu is and raw cpu is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:21:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC3C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E2A43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:21:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tiberius@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:tiberius@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2K9LcxH012164 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:21:38 GMT Received: (from tiberius@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j2K9Lciw013192 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:21:38 -0700 From: Matt Rechkemmer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320092138.GA5244@sdf.lonestar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: qpopper-4.0.5_2 SSL woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:21:54 -0000 Recently, I've been trying to get SSL support setup on my 5.3 machine's qpopper. I've installed the port with the following options: WITHOUT_APOP=yes WITHOUT_SSL=no WITH_STANDALONE_MODE=no I've generated a SSL certificate file for qpopper's use. It doesn't seem to complain about the certificate. However, when a user attempts to POP, I see this in my trace file: Mar 20 01:25:16.562 2005 [30945] before TLS; tls_support==0 [popper.c:181] Mar 20 01:25:16.562 2005 [30945] Skipped TLS Init [popper.c:205] The client receives "-ERR: Bad Login." Any thoughts on this? P.S. What's the best way to run qpopper, stand-alone or from inetd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:26:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8619616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:26:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ghoul.weirdnet.nl (ghoul.weirdnet.nl [62.250.7.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:26:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from weerd@weirdnet.nl) Received: from ghoul.weirdnet.nl (weerd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghoul.weirdnet.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2K9Q0cn015710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:26:00 +0100 (CET) Received: (from weerd@localhost) by ghoul.weirdnet.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2K9PxMI005753; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:25:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:25:59 +0100 From: Paul de Weerd To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050320092559.GA1565@ghoul.weirdnet.nl> References: <200503192050.j2JKoesb003713@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:26:28 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 04:29:59PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: | > 3) by not insisting at all that vendors open things at least a | > bit, Scott is not like Bill Paul or others who have opened | > up a lot of hardware, but is a lot more like Sam Leffler who | > has perpetuated this (and today, FreeBSD has one 802.11g/a | > driver -- and it uses binary bits). |=20 | Yes, well, I prefer the former approach myself, but I am not going to=20 | complain that Sam has written a wireless driver using binary firmware=20 | rather than one that is completely open. I appreciate the work he's=20 | done, even if I would like to see a completely open series of wireless=20 | drivers. There's a problem with this approach. Vendors will see the efforts of developers using binary-only stuff. And it sends a message : These guys can use our stuff, they will buy our products, and we do not have to give out documentation. This makes it harder on developers and on users than need be. But since the vendor has seen that what they've done so far (releasing binary-only stuff, eg a linux-only program that can run on your BSD system via linux-emu (but only if you run on i386)) works for us, why should they then supply more information/documentation ? What is in it for them ? It works, doesn't it ? Why give the vendor such a hard time, they did their job, see this-and-that project can work it out, why can't you ? It's just like Windows. You buy hardware, run Windows, but have no idea what's going on. The vendor supplies the driver and all is well. However, we have an open source operating system. We can see the internals of the system, we can go in ourselves and fix bugs. We can take the code and port it to other architectures, port it to other operating systems, do whatever we want. This is what we want to do. We do not want to be tied into software we can not examine ourselves. Otherwise, why run BSD ? Why run Linux ? There's Windows for you, it comes with drivers so you do not have to write the code yourself, so you can not be bothered to read the code, to take it and port it or fix its bugs or adapt it to suit your needs. I decided long ago to use open source software. The longer I use it,=20 the more I value the freedom open source software gives me. I therefore appreciate open sourced drivers. And I appreciate the time it takes the developers of my operating system to ask vendors for documentation, then take that documentation and use it to write those drivers. What value is there in trying to support a vendor that is unwilling to share the documentation the developers need to write drivers ? They don't support us, why should we support them ? It's sad that I spend money on hardware I later find is not supported. And of course, I would like to use this hardware rather sooner than later. But I would prefer that support to be open source. If that's not possible, then I'll just go support another vendor who truly supports open source. I'll toss out the unsupported hardware, tell my friends, family and co-workers not to buy stuff from that company and endorse the vendor that is willing to open up their stuff. This grass roots approach has turned out to be pretty succesful in the OpenBSD world. We now have a whole lot of drivers for wireless cards where we were unable to use most cards a year ago. Vendors have learned that they can make more sales if they open up their documentation so they are happy. The wireless card I bought last year now works, so I am happy. Others can take the code and make it work on their systems (hardware architecture/operating system) so they can be happy. I feel that this is in large parts due to Theo's approach (and the other developers) to this issue, so I thank them for it. At least now I know what RAID controller not to buy. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd PS: that "completely open series of wireless drivers" you talked about is now available at your local OpenBSD mirror. Feel free to take it and port it to your prefered system. --=20 >++++++++[<++++++++++>-]<+++++++.>+++[<------>-]<.>+++[<+ +++++++++++>-]<.>++[<------------>-]<+.--------------.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/ =20 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQFCPUGmmw12l2HFcK0RAii4AJ4utZE5fFOMz/mR6fYWVWtUVgtqpgCggLje elPmXoZqv70z9wXRUyNkCeY= =yvIU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:29:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF26016A4DD for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:29:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DB743D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:29:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K9TKb20840; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:29:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jerry Bell" , "Mike Jeays" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:29:10 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1795.24.98.86.57.1111292119.squirrel@24.98.86.57> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:29:28 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jerry Bell > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:15 PM > To: Mike Jeays > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become a utility > service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their > shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. > > At my day job, we have 9 exchange servers around the world, with about > 1500 mailboxes, so not a huge install, but in the past 5 years, > calendaring, email and public folders have become a critical > component of > the business, and any bit of unavailability isn't tolerated. > Now, we are > fortunate that we have several really good windows/exchange > guys to keep > things humming, but it is clear that the business demands of > calendaring > and email are outstripping the ability of MS to deliver. We, > along with > many other organizations, are really looking at ways to achieve 99.999% > uptime on exchange, but we're realy kidding ourselves. Something like > communigate pro, that can be clustered and run on a > non-windows OS could > move us closer to the mark, but still not really there. The > OS' and apps > just aren't meant for that type of availability yet. > Jerry, I would strongly encourage you to look at the latest Horde framework, which incorporates webmail, calendaring and many other goodies. It also has a plugin to sync to handhelds, although that is not as far along yet. The biggest hurdle of course is moving people off their calendaring in their own private Outlook calendars. The calendaring in Horde is web-based. But, you can easily continue using Outlook for the front end for e-mail. You can use it with pop3 or with IMAP, and you can setup a centralized address book with an LDAP server that Outlook will use quite nicely (as long as you format the LDAP data properly) Horde lends itself to clustering it is very modular. You can setup a group of Horde servers that use a central mysql database (which is where the calendaring and user settings are stored) Or you can use sql servers on each Horde system and use your own replication scheme between them. Horde is also multilingual, and includes support for the Asian languages, extremely good support in fact. Far better than Outlook clients, some versions of which cannot even display Kanji messages as you probably know. I've had a user run it on a Japanese localized verison of Windows and he raved about it. At the ISP I work at I went to Horde/IMP a few years ago to provide a webinterface for the mailserver. I use it in a dual server config, the mailserver is one box and it just runs sendmail and IMAP, the Horde server is a separate box. For grins I installed the calendaring module in it. I was pretty stunned last month when I went to migrate it to the new version and found the sql server stuffed with appointments and such. Apparently most of the users discovered the calendar and decided to use it. This greatly complicates my migration now since I now got to move all their data. :-) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:30:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF90E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4259643D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K9V7b20857; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:31:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Jeays" , Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:30:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1111279870.650.11.camel@chaucer.jeays.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:30:59 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mike Jeays > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:51 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > I have to disagree with this! In my organization, a government > department with about 6,000 staff, the ability to schedule meetings and > book conference rooms has become an essential part of our computing > infrastructure. Any attempt to remove these features or reduce their > functionality from that provided by Outlook/Exchange would be met with > considerable hostility and the permanent sidelining of he/she who > proposed it. A definite career-limiting move. > > It is a major reason why we can't go to a fully open source desktop. You need to look better. While calendaring apps aren't as numerous in the Open Source world, they exist and some have even more functionality that that provided by Exchange. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DF516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD07643D5C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2K9cDEe092097 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:38:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03836 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:31:59 +0300 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:31:59 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=-0.04 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:32:06 -0000 Hello! Does any body know, how can I use OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) for determine total traffic volume on network interface? If it's impossible, what facility you recommend me to do this? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:45:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B77F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:45:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041C043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:45:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K9jjb20907 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:45:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:45:36 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:16 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > "Tricking-out" a UNIX server just to avoid using Exchange may not be a > wise course of action for an enterprise. I'd be interested in knowing, > point-by-point, exactly how a UNIX solution would provide every feature > provided by Exchange. > Fine, you list the features you think are key ones and I'll provide it. > > Exchange has a much better feature set than any UNIX solution, and that > is a major selling point. No it doesen't. Exchange has a better feature set than MANY of the UNIX solutions but not all. > > > And keep in mind that the only serious coompetitor in Windows > > mailserver server software was Netscape and we know what happened to > > them. > > Netscape's product was garbage, and it was never a serious competitor. > It was garbage but it was a serious competitor, because it was the only company that had the name recognition to build it's product up - if it had been allowed to do it. Exchange in the beginning was garbage also. As I recall Exchange 5.0 couldn't even be configured to disallow promiscious relaying. > > Not true any longer. The latest Exchange versions have good > support for > > non-Windows systems. > > Exchange servers have to be Windows servers. There has been > support for > _clients_ on other platforms for a long time, but Exchange > works best in > a mostly-Windows environment ... at least if an enterprise wants to use > all the Exchange features (which it should, if it's going to pay for > Exchange). > The Exchange webinterface - which is usable from any operating system that you can run a browser on - provides exactly the same functionality as Outlook client with the Exchange Connector to an Exchange server does. Please explain how a Windows environment provides all the Exchange features to the end user and a non-Windows environment does not. > I've never considered a thousand mailboxes to be a large installation. > Exchange can handle a hundred times that without too much > trouble, given > enough hardware. > Not at the level that ISP's have mail passing though their servers. When was the last time that some spammer stuffed your exchange servers outbound queue with spam? Please tell the group how you removed the spam messages when you caught the spammer. And "letting it purge them by itself" is the wrong answer. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:52:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360AD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15BE43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K9qob20921 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:41 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must > restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes > frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). Only if you purchase a backup software. If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange because windows backup will not back up open files. Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store in one fell swoop, it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) individual mailboxes. This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox if you want to. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:52:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC9216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7937E43D5C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 347571C0012C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:52:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C7861C00127 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:52:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320095248511.0C7861C00127@mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:52:47 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:50 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Fine, you list the features you think are key ones and I'll provide it. Why not just buy Exchange? You make the same mistake that so many people with emotional investments in software make: You feel you must look for non-Microsoft solutions _just for the sake of avoiding Microsoft_. But in this case, as in several other cases, the Microsoft solution tends to be the best overall. And if one has no sacred mission to drive Microsoft back into the Pit, there's no reason to look for cobbled UNIX solutions that do the same thing. > No it doesen't. Exchange has a better feature set than MANY of the UNIX > solutions but not all. Show me the one-stop UNIX solution that meets or beats Exchange. > It was garbage but it was a serious competitor, because it was the only > company that had the name recognition to build it's product up - if it > had been allowed to do it. It didn't actually have a product, though. It bolted together standard SMTP and POP bits and pieces and tried to call it an integrated solution. Exchange was written from scratch specifically to provide an integrated solution. Nobody else was or is going to come up with the same thing without making a similar investment ... and the investment in Exchange was substantial. > Exchange in the beginning was garbage also. As I recall Exchange 5.0 > couldn't even be configured to disallow promiscious relaying. I used Exchange from the very beginning, and had no problems with it. > The Exchange webinterface - which is usable from any operating system > that you can run a browser on - provides exactly the same functionality as > Outlook client with the Exchange Connector to an Exchange server does. > Please explain how a Windows environment provides all the Exchange > features to the end user and a non-Windows environment does not. Not all non-Windows environments have equivalent clients. A Web interface doesn't count, any more than connecting a dumb terminal to a mainframe makes the dumb terminal a PC. > Not at the level that ISP's have mail passing though their servers. ISPs should not use Exchange. > When was the last time that some spammer stuffed your exchange servers > outbound queue with spam? I don't run an Exchange server. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 09:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD57E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:58:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0BA43D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:58:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2K9wUb20946 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:58:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:58:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > Jerry Bell writes: > > > I'll second that the calendar/email functionality has become > a utility > > service in many organizations. Exchange/outlook, for all their > > shortcomings, have really changed the way companies work. > > They get spoiled. No they don't. Shared calendaring is a requirement once you introduce e-mail to a large organization. E-mail destroys the justification for having a company mailroom and for interoffice mail. As a result companies that go to e-mail end up removing these things and reassigning people that worked in them. Unfortunately this destroys the same system that was used for scheduling use of conference rooms, setting up meetings, etc. > I suppose there's no harm in that intrinsically, but > it does tend to lock them into proprietary solutions (which isn't > necessarily good or bad). > No it doesen't. There are open solutions that handle this well. > > There isn't any solution that will provide that kind of uptime today. Yes there is. > Application systems that provide the functionality your users want are > not sufficiently evolved or reliable to achieve utility-grade service. > And since all of them are the work of companies that have spent most of > their existence writing for PCs, I don't expect this goal to be reached > any time soon. > > Nevertheless, Exchange is at the top of the list in this respect. It > would be nice to have better, but this is the best available. > You need to learn about other solutions. There is a big wide world out there you haven't seen. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 10:06:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37D816A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:06:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.versatel.nl (smtp2.versatel.nl [62.58.50.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCE043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:06:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 31015 invoked by uid 10); 20 Mar 2005 10:06:11 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 31007-62A516C4 invoked from network) 20 Mar 2005 11:06:10 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.5]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp2.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 20 Mar 2005 10:06:10 -0000 Message-ID: <423D4B5E.6030406@zonnet.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:07:26 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050302) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> In-Reply-To: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.30.0.2; VDF: 6.30.0.11; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:06:14 -0000 Eugene M. Minkovskii wrote: >Hello! > >Does any body know, how can I use OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) for >determine total traffic volume on network interface? If it's >impossible, what facility you recommend me to do this? > > > I don't realy know if it is impossible to use PF for monitoring the total traffic. But you can ( just as I do ) use MRTG ( Multi Router Traffic ) to keep track of the amount of data which you are using. It renders html-documents. By default MRTG only keeps track of the current bandwith-usage with a script which is known as 'mrtg-totals' you can also get graphs of the total amount of traffic. See www.mrtg.org and http://freebsd.munk.nu/archives/157-MRTG-Totals-Perl-Script.html Good Luck Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 10:10:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C1716A4D3 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9464943D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2KAB1b21420 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:10:50 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:52 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:53 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > > Fine, you list the features you think are key ones and I'll > provide it. > > Why not just buy Exchange? > You said you would be interested in other solutions that provided the same features as Exchange. What is wrong, were you not telling the truth? > You make the same mistake that so many people with emotional > investments > in software make: You feel you must look for non-Microsoft solutions > _just for the sake of avoiding Microsoft_. But in this case, as in > several other cases, the Microsoft solution tends to be the best > overall. And if one has no sacred mission to drive Microsoft back into > the Pit, there's no reason to look for cobbled UNIX solutions that do > the same thing. > I look for non-Microsoft solutions because they are cheaper and faster and do what I need them to do. To me this to me means better. To someone else who, perhaps, shits money out their ass when they go to the crapper, well perhaps they can buy brand new hardware at $30K a pop for a server, and make up for the speed difference with it, and perhaps they don't care about it being cheaper. Maybe you define better as what is better has more features? Others may define better as running more reliably. Still others may define better as being more flexible. > > No it doesen't. Exchange has a better feature set than MANY > of the UNIX > > solutions but not all. > > Show me the one-stop UNIX solution that meets or beats Exchange. > I already mentioned Horde in another post. And that's just from the open source world. I didn't even look at the commercial UNIX products. > > It was garbage but it was a serious competitor, because it > was the only > > company that had the name recognition to build it's product > up - if it > > had been allowed to do it. > > It didn't actually have a product, though. It bolted together standard > SMTP and POP bits and pieces and tried to call it an integrated > solution. > That is what they started with but they did also put in some of their own code. > Exchange was written from scratch specifically to provide an integrated > solution. Nobody else was or is going to come up with the same thing > without making a similar investment ... and the investment in Exchange > was substantial. > How much was the investment in FreeBSD? And who made it? > > > The Exchange webinterface - which is usable from any operating system > > that you can run a browser on - provides exactly the same > functionality as > > Outlook client with the Exchange Connector to an Exchange > server does. > > Please explain how a Windows environment provides all the Exchange > > features to the end user and a non-Windows environment does not. > > Not all non-Windows environments have equivalent clients. A Web > interface doesn't count, any more than connecting a dumb terminal to a > mainframe makes the dumb terminal a PC. > Why doesen't it count? That's just rediculous. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 10:46:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A98416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:46:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B0F43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:46:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8C84AC3D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:46:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:46:24 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20050320104624.GB67329@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <200503192058.j2JKwri14501@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503192058.j2JKwri14501@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: "Marco Greene \(ML\)" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Stupid ASCII loader prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:46:37 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 03:58:53PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Not true, based on the heavy response on this issue on the mailing lists > > every time it comes up. > > Oh come on. All that noise is from the same eight or ten people, while the > thousands just ignore it and hope it will go away. Jerry, just because people don't spam the lists any further, doesn't mean it's not important to them. Behind the scenes, there's a lot of grumbling about this issue both in Unix User Groups and among sysadmins. The recent anti-beastie push (no, not necessarily the logo contest alone, but the complete campaign, even against the loader prompt!) is generating bad karma all over the place, and a lot of people, esp. outside the US, are really bewildered, why this is happening *right now*. It is a bikeshed discussion. I wished it would go away, together with the few anti-beastie campaign(ers). Please leave things as they are. There's no need to paint that bikeshed again; it is just fine. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 10:48:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D3F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:48:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B875343D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6D0801C0009B for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:48:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 443271C00092 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:48:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320104823279.443271C00092@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:48:16 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16410309028.20050320114816@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:48:25 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > Only if you purchase a backup software. If you want to use windows > backup you must shut down exchange because windows backup will not > back up open files. You can back up a running Exchange server with the standard software provided with Exchange and Windows. Some third-party products also provide special backup capability for Exchange, but you don't have to buy any third-party product to back up a running server. If you use a third-party product to back up the system and it doesn't have special Exchange capability, you must either stop the Exchange server during the backup or exclude the Exchange databases from the backup. No surprise here. > Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store > in one fell swoop, it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) > individual mailboxes. You don't lose individual mailboxes in Exchange, so they don't have to be restored (unless you delete them accidentally, which good administrators do not do). Nevertheless, you can restore individual mailboxes if you have deletion retention configured and you're still within the retention time. This was not a feature of the original release of Exchange, but it exists now. I think it's a bad idea, but it was developed in response to customer demand. > This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written > to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. Life is tough. > By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail > directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox > if you want to. You can do that with Exchange, too. However, I normally advise mail administrators that they have to train their users to understand that deleted e-mail is gone. In fact, I suggest that they not even tell users that e-mail is recoverable, unless they want to spend every waking hour restoring mailboxes. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 10:56:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC6316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:56:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8302843D4C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:56:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BB9C71C000A7 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:56:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 958631C000A0 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:56:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320105601612.958631C000A0@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:56:01 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:56:03 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > No they don't. Shared calendaring is a requirement once you > introduce e-mail to a large organization. Most e-mail systems don't provide it. Organizations got along without it before, so they don't actually need it. However, once they have it, they like it, and they don't want to do without it. > E-mail destroys the justification for having a company mailroom > and for interoffice mail. As a result companies that go to e-mail > end up removing these things and reassigning people that worked > in them. Unfortunately this destroys the same system that was > used for scheduling use of conference rooms, setting up meetings, etc. They can just send e-mail instead of paper mail. That doesn't require any special software capability beyond basic e-mail. > No it doesen't. There are open solutions that handle this well. Exchange handles it better, and it's one-stop shopping. > Yes there is. What's the name of the product? > You need to learn about other solutions. There is a big wide world out > there you haven't seen. Name the product. I did this for a living, and I heard and invalidated arguments like yours all the time. There are always a few people with a frothing hatred for Microsoft who feel compelled to do everything some other way--any other way--as long as it avoids Microsoft, no matter how much time and complexity and difficulty it might involve. Fortunately, managers outside IT rarely have this obsession and will simply buy whatever does the job most effectively, and usually that is Exchange. They can be influenced by salespeople to a certain extent, but when they are given objective data they tend to make objective decisions. You haven't given any compelling reason _not_ to use Exchange. The fact that it comes from Microsoft doesn't count. For large organizations with complex e-mail architectures, Exchange is the clear leader. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 11:05:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546D316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:05:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7C243D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:05:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA7811C00097 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:05:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BB55D1C00094 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:05:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320110500767.BB55D1C00094@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:05:00 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <757104938.20050320120500@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:05:02 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > You said you would be interested in other solutions that provided the > same features as Exchange. What is wrong, were you not telling the > truth? I am telling the truth. But another solution that provides the same features as Exchange will have ALL of them, and so it isn't necessary for me to "list the features I think are key." The alternate solution has to have all the features of Exchange, period. > I look for non-Microsoft solutions because they are cheaper and faster > and do what I need them to do. Except that that's not unconditionally true. Some Microsoft solutions are cheaper and faster than non-Microsoft solutions. And there are other considerations besides price and speed, and in some cases Microsoft solutions are better even if they cost more or aren't quite as performant. I look for solutions, period. I don't care whether they come from Microsoft or not. > To me this to me means better. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean that to everyone else. > To someone else who, perhaps, shits money out their ass when they go > to the crapper, well perhaps they can buy brand new hardware at $30K a > pop for a server, and make up for the speed difference with it, and > perhaps they don't care about it being cheaper. Exactly. A lot of companies do that ... in part because it is often cheaper overall. > Maybe you define better as what is better has more features? I define better as whatever matches the client's requirements. > Others may define better as running more reliably. Still others may > define better as being more flexible. There are many criteria for "better." > I already mentioned Horde in another post. It does everything Exchange does, and installs in ten minutes from a single set of CDs? I don't think so. In fact, it doesn't even come remotely close to that. > And that's just from the open source world. I didn't even look at the > commercial UNIX products. They aren't any better. > That is what they started with but they did also put in some of their > own code. Yes, mostly copyright notices. The rest was a hodgepodge of whatever garbage they could scrape up. They had neither the time nor the money to build a real messaging system of their own, and they depended on marketing to hide that fact (for example, "standards-based" was their euphemism for "we patched together public-domain code"). Unfortunately for them, they couldn't hide it well enough. > How much was the investment in FreeBSD? And who made it? I don't know, but I'm pretty certain that it pales to insignificance in comparison to that expended on Exchange. You might be surprised at how much Exchange cost to develop. > Why doesen't it count? I just told you why. In a Web interface, all the software is on the server. The fact that it can be accessed by many dumb client machines does not equate to running custom client software on those machines. Web interfaces, as a general rule, are slow, messy pieces of junk that one uses only as a last resort, when one has no client software instead. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 12:51:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF4B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:51:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0209243D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])E3E221800135 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:51:37 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Mar 2005 12:51:37 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D8F304BE6D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:51:37 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: mysql@lists.mysql.com, questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:51:37 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050320125137.D8F304BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Managing virtual e-mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:51:38 -0000 Hello. I am running the Postfix+Courier on MySQL setup found on: http://www.high5.net/howto I am wondering how to add and delete users, as well as adding and deleting aliases -- and managing my virtual e-mail database in general -- using a pure, clean and efficient approach, rather than having to use Postfixadmin, which I find to be sort of unprofessional and bloated with bad design. For instance, I managed to avoid using the PHPMyAdmin, and instead got all my setup recorded in clean text: USE mysql; CREATE DATABASE gtg_mail; GRANT USAGE ON gtg_mail.* TO postfix@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'gatNanav'; GRANT CREATE, SELECT, INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE ON gtg_mail.* TO postfix@local= host; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE admin ( username varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', password varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', modified datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', PRIMARY KEY (username), KEY username (username) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual admins'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE alias ( address varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', goto text NOT NULL, domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', modified datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', PRIMARY KEY (address), KEY address (address) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual aliases'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE domain ( domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', description varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', aliases int(10) NOT NULL default '0', mailboxes int(10) NOT NULL default '0', maxquota int(10) NOT NULL default '0', transport varchar(255) default NULL, backupmx tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '0', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', modified datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', PRIMARY KEY (domain), KEY domain (domain) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual domains'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE domain_admins ( username varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', KEY username (username) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual domain admins'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE mailbox ( username varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', password varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', name varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', maildir varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', quota int(10) NOT NULL default '0', domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', modified datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', PRIMARY KEY (username), KEY username (username) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual mailboxes'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE vacation ( email varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', subject varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', body text NOT NULL, cache text NOT NULL, domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', created datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', active tinyint(1) NOT NULL default '1', PRIMARY KEY (email), KEY email (email) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: virtual vacation'; USE gtg_mail; CREATE TABLE log ( timestamp datetime NOT NULL default '0000-00-00 00:00:00', username varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', domain varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', action varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', data varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', KEY timestamp (timestamp) ) TYPE=3DMyISAM COMMENT=3D'Postfix: log'; --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 12:52:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F116A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB1043D55 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:52:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jshamlet@comcast.net) Received: from bedroompc (pcp04634027pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.71.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005032012521201200e8ccae>; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:52:12 +0000 From: "J. Seth Henry" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:52:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c52d4b$a1f5ba00$0c00a8c0@BEDROOMPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Having problems booting when attempting to mounting /dev from another filesystem on 4.11-REL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:52:13 -0000 Guys/Gals, One of my embedded machines died a while back after several years of = service (enough to erase my memory.). I am trying to rebuild the flash file = system on the machine, and ran into a snag. I'm attempting to manually install 4.11-REL on this system, as it is a rather old device with little RAM (32MB), and a troublesome ACPI system. (By manually, I mean I'm creating/copying file systems from a "host" drive running 4.11 rather = than use the installer) =20 The flash memory is only 32MB, so I have to fairly particular about what = I put on it. Right now, I just have the kernel, /bin, /sbin, /etc, /boot, = and place holders for /usr. I symlink in /modules, /root, /home, /var, /tmp, = etc from /usr (which is an IBM micro drive). I mount /dev from another slice = on the flash memory. =20 The rule is, anything that doesn't need to be written, or is required = for boot, is placed on a read-only flash slice, /dev (which doesn't actually harm the flash, but must be mounted read-write, is mounted from a = separate slice on the flash, and everything else is mounted on /usr. =20 The problem I'm seeing is that the kernel boots to "mounting root from ad0s1a" and then it hangs. I suspect that is because I don't have the = right /dev entries on the primary slice's /dev. =20 The question is what are the minimal set of /dev devices required to = boot sufficiently to the point where it can attempt to mount the rest of the = file systems? I know this can be done, because the original install did it = this way (though it took quite a bit of hacking to get it to work right) I = just lost half the secret sauce formula. The other half was remembering to = create a 1MB slice, and using "newfs -b 4096 -i 128" on the /dev file system so there are enough inodes. =20 Thanks, Seth Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:15:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF4716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:15:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9786843D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:15:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2KDFcMW386646 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:15:42 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id F1F8619F85B; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:21:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8ED19F856 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:21:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:21:30 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:15:44 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> Fine, you list the features you think are key ones and I'll provide it. > > Why not just buy Exchange? > > You make the same mistake that so many people with emotional investments > in software make: You feel you must look for non-Microsoft solutions > _just for the sake of avoiding Microsoft_. But in this case, as in > several other cases, the Microsoft solution tends to be the best > overall. And if one has no sacred mission to drive Microsoft back into > the Pit, there's no reason to look for cobbled UNIX solutions that do > the same thing. And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid it by answering it. List the features. I am interested in Ted's list of items to replicate them in UNIX. =) As for looking for non microsoft solutions, yes. There is a point to that. It's called voting with your pocketbook, and its a valid course of action in a capitalist society. Choosing to go outside a monopoly is a right. And yes, looking for non MS solutions, for the sake of it, is a valid choice. It's the only way some things get better. If for instance, I go with a product of MS, as opposed to a smaller OSS project, the OSS Project typically *cares* about the feedback I give it. It cares about the features I want and need. I need a credit card before MS will talk to me. The Exchange solution might be best for a gold partner with M$, but overall, a very poor solution, which locks you into a feature set, and a company that has shown little concern for its base of customers. In regards to its use of JET, Jet2003 cannot handle any other process running against its datastore, because it dosent have the ability to cache and then commit like a REAL RDBMS. This is a problem for things such as virus scanning, and tight integration with an AD Environment, which is getting more and more replication based. In fact, some types of virus scanning can introduce data corruption of the store, which could lead to other issues. There are several papers on this, including some in Bugtraq. On this very issue. What's more, the virus scanners that do run against Exchange's DB, also cost money, and typically require some more hardware. And overhead. So now I am running exchange, and a bevy of other stuff to prop it up. The whole point of UNIX, and Open Source is a number of people, getting together and saying..."It shouldnt have to be that hard" MS has had YEARS to put a SQL backend onto Exchange, yet have not. With its history, and its track record, and indeed, with even most recommending a dry SMTP server outside of the regular exchange server, exchange is hardly a worthwhile solution. With the number of machines you need to run Exchange properly, (basically, 2-3) with freeBSD, I can do *alot* more. FYI, while I do need to run a tight AD environment where I work, I *still* dont do exchange. I use MDaemon (a real mailserver, not piled on with crap) and WorkGroup Share, coupled with the MDaemon Groupware function. Not quite the "same" featureset as Exchange, but, I am supporting developers who *care* about what I want. I get contact, scheduling, etc. I am voting with my pocketbook, and, its highly arrogant of you to sit there and thinly accuse people of not doing right by their situation by not choosing M$ because they dont want to use MS. Not wanting to use MS is a perfectly valid course of action, and its rather lame of you to suggest otherwise. this is freebsd-questions@ not ms-questions@. >> No it doesen't. Exchange has a better feature set than MANY of the >> UNIX solutions but not all. > > Show me the one-stop UNIX solution that meets or beats Exchange. > There probably isint a one stop shop. However, there dosent need to be. In fact, there is something to be said for multiple services offering features. Exchange is bloated. Alot of its problems come from this bloat. Id rather have 5 different standards compliant services (LDAP based) talking to one another, maybe with a text db, or sql backend, than one huge asinine monstrosity, with a crappy and outdated DB backend, running mission critical for me. > Exchange was written from scratch specifically to provide an integrated > solution. Nobody else was or is going to come up with the same thing > without making a similar investment ... and the investment in Exchange > was substantial. Bullshit. Exchange is the perfect example of microsofts policy of embrace and extend. That fact is bolstered by you sitting here, and justifying their policy as valid. Id rather have world wide standards, not the standards (or features that MS feels are standards) Microsoft feels I need, or that I should have to pay for. >> Exchange in the beginning was garbage also. As I recall Exchange 5.0 >> couldn't even be configured to disallow promiscious relaying. > > I used Exchange from the very beginning, and had no problems with it. Funny, then you are one of 5 people I know of, who claim to have no problem. The web, security boards, are rife with exchange issues, and the people who suffer from them. Indeed, I see ads in the paper all the time, for "Exchange Admins". Id rather have spend my money on one guy who knows SQL, Postfix, apache, LDAP etc, than one guy, who knows one server. The mere fact that Exchange admin can be a full time job is sad enough. -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:17:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4030043D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:17:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from awad@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost.hushmail.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A907A35CB for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailserver3.hushmail.com (mailserver3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.20]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mailserver3.hushmail.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j2KDHuVb051002 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:17:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from awad@hushmail.com) Message-Id: <200503201317.j2KDHuVb051002@mailserver3.hushmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:17:52 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Subject: gpg encryption in mutt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:17:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello i am trying to set up decent gpg encryption in mutt, so that my e-mails will look more professional. (like this hushmail one) what i'm doing so far is signing my messages, but mutt-devel gives them stupid filenames (like 2.dat etc.) which doesn't give much of an impression. i'm thinking i oughta just include some key thing in my .signature file but i'm not sure what. i'm searching people who has been in the same situation as me and who would like to help their brothers in need :) here is my setup, .muttrc: source ~/.gpgrc set pgp_replysign set pgp_replyencrypt set pgp_verify_sig=yes set pgp_sign_as="AEC8576C" set pgp_strict_enc unset pgp_autosign unset pgp_autoencrypt and here is .gpgrc: set pgp_decode_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? -- no-verbose --quiet --batch --output - %f" set pgp_verify_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --quiet -- batch --output - --verify %s %f" set pgp_decrypt_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no- verbose --quiet --batch --output - %f" set pgp_sign_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch -- quiet --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign --textmode %?a? - -u %a? %f" set pgp_clearsign_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch - - -quiet --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign % ?a?-u %a? %f" set pgp_encrypt_only_command="pgpewrap /usr/local/bin/gpg --batch -- quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always- trust -- -r %r -- %f" set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="pgpewrap /usr/local/bin/gpg -- passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output - - - -encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f" set pgp_import_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f" set pgp_export_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --export -- armor %r" set pgp_verify_key_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --verbose --batch -- fingerprint --check-sigs %r" set pgp_list_pubring_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose -- batch --quiet --with-colons --list-keys %r" set pgp_list_secring_command="/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose -- batch --quiet --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r" set pgp_good_sign="`gettext -d gnupg -s 'Good signature from "' | tr -d '"'`" what am i missing? - -- thanks @ awad -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkI9eAwACgkQgrhgoMygEH4YUgCePBILSM8rc/aTZEdTlMn8KK5Sq50A nAyEO7MpkcmhmaoNoYaHwIvoIGUq =cXFU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:21:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from elysium.unit.liu.se (elysium.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594643D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:21:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: by elysium.unit.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 102) id A0CE0339C6; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from liu.se (camelot.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.139]) by elysium.unit.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AD7339C2 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from [81.94.82.239] by mu.unit.liu.se (mshttpd); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:19 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:19 +0100 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2-liu_20050119_1740 (2004-11-16) on themis.unit.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, LIU_FROM_MATCHES_LIUSTUDENT,LIU_MAILTO_TO_LIUSTUDENT autolearn=ham version=3.0.2-liu_20050119_1740 Subject: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:21:25 -0000 I'm trying to set up sendmail to route outgoing mail to an external SMTP server. I need this for Mutt, which doesn't have its own means of transfering mail and relies on whatever MTA the system provides. I found out about sendmail's SMARTHOST capability and added this line to my .mc configuration file (built by 'cd /etc/mail && make && make install'): define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.liu.se') I then installed the changes with 'make && make install && make restart'. Now, whenever I try to send mail from Mutt, I get back the following failure notice: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) [-- Bilaga #1 --] [-- Typ: text/plain, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,5K --] The original message was received at Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) from localhost [127.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to smtp.liu.se.: >>> DATA <<< 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients [-- Bilaga #2 --] [-- Typ: message/delivery-status, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,4K --] Reporting-MTA: dns; obygden Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost Arrival-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) Final-Recipient: RFC822; ulfma629@student.liu.se Action: failed Status: 5.5.4 Remote-MTA: DNS; smtp.liu.se Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 504 : Sender address rejected: need +fully-qualified address Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) [-- Bilaga #3 --] [-- Typ: message/rfc822, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,7K --] Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: ulfma629@student.liu.se Subject: test User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i test any ideas? Please be aware that I'm totally new to sendmail when replying :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:22:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A1316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:22:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2239743D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:22:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3F860F4 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72796-06 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D3460F3 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:21:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423D78FF.7080108@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:07 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:22:05 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > >>Fine, you list the features you think are key ones and I'll provide it. > > > Why not just buy Exchange? > > You make the same mistake that so many people with emotional investments > in software make: You feel you must look for non-Microsoft solutions > _just for the sake of avoiding Microsoft_. But in this case, as in > several other cases, the Microsoft solution tends to be the best > overall. And if one has no sacred mission to drive Microsoft back into > the Pit, there's no reason to look for cobbled UNIX solutions that do > the same thing. > > >>No it doesen't. Exchange has a better feature set than MANY of the UNIX >>solutions but not all. > > > Show me the one-stop UNIX solution that meets or beats Exchange. Have a look here: eGroupWare (at egroupware.org) OpenGroupware.org (at opengroupware.org) Open Source Exchange Replacement (at oser.sourceforge.net) OPEN-XCHANGE (at open-xchange.org) PHPGroupware (at phpgroupware.org) -- Best regards, Chris Everything may be divided into as many parts as you please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:29:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A80216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:29:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F6D43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:29:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DD0UU-000133-6w; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:29:14 -0500 Received: from 24.98.86.57 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:29:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3649.24.98.86.57.1111325354.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: <423D78FF.7080108@makeworld.com> References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <423D78FF.7080108@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:29:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: racerx@makeworld.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:29:23 -0000 Count me in on the group that doesn't think that a web-based system is adequate for the enterprise, but in the realm of web-based groupware systems, I have taken a strong liking to group office. I've not used all of these below, but I've been most impressed with group office's interface and features. http://sourceforge.net/projects/group-office/ Jerry http://www.syslog.org > Have a look here: > > eGroupWare (at egroupware.org) > > OpenGroupware.org (at opengroupware.org) > > Open Source Exchange Replacement (at oser.sourceforge.net) > > OPEN-XCHANGE (at open-xchange.org) > > PHPGroupware (at phpgroupware.org) > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > Everything may be divided into as many parts as you please. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:30:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD3916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4E43D4C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2KDUb5K191038 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:30:41 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id CD34119F888; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:36:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF48C19F887 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:36:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:36:30 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:44 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> No it doesen't. There are open solutions that handle this well. > > Exchange handles it better, and it's one-stop shopping. > And, one stop shopping is not always the best course of action. In fact, it's extremely limiting in alot of ways. Another thing, Exchange may "have it all" as you say, but I say: the more you overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the sink. Exchange's many issues come from its bloated nature. I said it before, Ill say it again: I'll take 4 or 5 different OSS services, that do the same job as Exchange any day. I guarantee they will be more scalable, cheaper TCO, and the developers will be far more receptive to my feedback than MS ever will be. > > I did this for a living, and I heard and invalidated arguments like > yours all the time. There are always a few people with a frothing > hatred for Microsoft who feel compelled to do everything some other > way--any other way--as long as it avoids Microsoft, no matter how much > time and complexity and difficulty it might involve. > And, the folks who buy into MS's embrace and extend are a dime a dozen. If you want to evangelize exchange, id suggest you find a list for exchange. The original post in this thread, was about emulating an environment in which to run exchange. that's been answered, you on the other hand, seem to me to be border line trolling. What's more, even if your assesment of Exchange (that its the "best") is correct, how can there ever be anything better, if people dont move to other products with potential? If people do not support other methods of solving the problem. It's your attitude that perpetuates embrace and extend. It's your attitude that promotes the continuation of the monopoly. And, when someone disagrees with you for not wanting to give MS money, you "invalidate" them. Which is just another term for "idiotize" in your eyes, I think. > Fortunately, managers outside IT rarely have this obsession and will > simply buy whatever does the job most effectively, and usually that is > Exchange. They can be influenced by salespeople to a certain extent, > but when they are given objective data they tend to make objective > decisions. No, unfortunately, people outside IT, who have zero technical understanding of the pandora's box they open, are making these choices. > > You haven't given any compelling reason _not_ to use Exchange. The fact > that it comes from Microsoft doesn't count. For large organizations > with complex e-mail architectures, Exchange is the clear leader. > The fact that Ted keeps asking you questions, that you sidestep, ignore, and have yet to answer, is the reason. You should just drop your trolling, unless you are willing to answer the questions posed to you. Everyone answers your question, why cant you reciprocate? Oh, and one stop shopping is not an answer either. Its a blankey generaliztion. Its what we refer to in the real world as a "cop out". -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:38:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCCA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:38:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC70243D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:38:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so644673rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:38:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GZsjHZsDha1qrV8HlX4Lt5hhcxvxEhuIWEzQ+gS1Ka5o5/OfkG6CJ//+YWaiVSsriP7l4zpFI9qgJJCghpQKL0KwuzFWOCkmbseAU3DrMHLrP7AGS6/6qfSetlOcslEYEdUHnBXcLWdLgBamJkMCaAadMuA/9fKoaAhpuoE0QNg= Received: by 10.38.14.69 with SMTP id 69mr4428593rnn; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:38:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:38:34 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050314072135.73ECF16A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:38:35 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:17:33 -0500, John DeStefano wrote: > > From: Jason Henson > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 02:00:48 +0000 > > Subject: Re: kern.maxpipekva exceeded, please see tuning(7) > > On 03/13/05 15:44:32, John DeStefano wrote: > > > I have seen a mention or two of this error on the lists before, > > > including this link to the "current" list I pulled up from Google: > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019150.html > > > > > > In my case, the errors began after my exploratory two-year-old found > > > the shiny 'reset' button and could not resist its powers. I'm also > > > getting HDD error messages on boot, 'fsck -y' shows all the file > > > systems as read-only and returns errors on one of them, and I can no > > > longer SSH into my system (due to, I assume, too many open file > > > handles), or even get a command in on my console without an error > > > popping in.. > > > > > > The solution does not seem clear cut to me, and it seems the error > > > message itself does not provide valid (or, at least, sufficient) > > > information. > > > > > > Could someone please help, or point me in the right direction? > > > > > > Thanks, as always, > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD is very robust with power failures, but that was a reset > > button. Do you have acpi on? When I hit my power button every once in > > a while my system shuts down properly. Try booting into single user > > mode and do a manual mount and fsck. > > > > And just to help you out: > > > > $ sysctl -ad | grep pipekva > > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: Pipe KVA limit > > kern.ipc.pipekva: Pipe KVA usage > > $ sysctl -a | grep pipekva > > kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 8634368 > > kern.ipc.pipekva: 344064 > > > Thanks to Jason's instructions, I was able to boot into -s mode, > manually mount and fsck the slices, and add the two kernel > paramenters to /boot/loader.conf, using his maxpipekva and pipekva > parameters and values > ver batim; and this seemed to get me back up and running. > > Howver, whenever I now try to perform any intensive operations, such > as cvsup or makeworld, the errors come right back and do not desist > unless I reboot the machine. > > Is there a recommended value for these parameters if I've got a total > of 340MB RAM, or another way of solving this problem? > > Thank you, > ~John > Hi again folks, In addition to the above, cron is now dumping signal 11 cores on me every two minutes. I had one suggestion to check the value of "openfiles" in /etc/login.conf, but that's already set to "unlimited". Any and all ideas would be appreciated. Thanks. ~John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 13:41:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AC516A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:41:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCB143D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2KDfai1008528; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KDfYdq004245; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 05:41:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:41:33 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:41:42 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 2:24 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ ... ] > In that case Dell is a customer of Adaptec, not the other way around, > so any NDA that Dell might require for Adaptec to sign would not > have restricted Adaptec's use of it's own programming documentation. And you know this, because...? You've read that NDA and you know just what it says and what it covers? Prove it! >> You've failed to address the point. Do you claim that Adaptec is in a >> position to ignore an NDA they have with a company like Intel or Dell? > > The point is they obviously don't have an NDA with Intel since the > programming docs for the i860 are open already. (at least the don't > have an NDA that covers this aspect of their relationship, which is all > we care about) Have you read the NDA between Adaptec and Intel? If not, how do you know just what it does or does not cover? Once again, you're making claims of fact about a document that you've probably never seen. I think you are making wild assertions and have not even a shred of evidence to justify them. As for your comments about my ethics, we can resume that discussion after you provide some evidence to show that your words are based in fact rather than empty claims made up on the spot to suit your argument. If you cannot or will not provide proof, Ted, attacking the credibility of others is rank hypocrisy. -- -Chuck PS: While I haven't seen Adaptec's NDA agreements, I'd bet a stack of nickels they exist and limit the information Adaptec is able to make public. You and others have asked why Adaptec isn't free to give you all of their internal documentation, and you've gotten an answer. If you don't like it or if you refuse to understand the circumstances, that's your problem, not mine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 14:09:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFA443D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:09:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so874580wra for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:09:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PlROXl3ccNaCFdOZz0TjZj8geekX3Oz7/JwJzmVjX55/uIka9rU7xB27h47PEzRdqtmRz6WHltPVpCqsJS3uNs/WHd6InLmVWcoaZ0n4rRzxJQkKu3bWZka3j3RuS23xFRAfh/X1X0M07jxWlUdyq4mR/tQU/3LaZvL1LaOdlUY= Received: by 10.54.76.14 with SMTP id y14mr1736778wra; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:09:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:09:18 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:09:19 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:57 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:32 +0200, Abu Khaled wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU > > > > Have you tried "man top" > > > > "WCPU, when displayed, is the weighted cpu percentage (this is the > > same value that ps(1) displays as CPU), CPU is the raw percentage and > > is the field that is sorted to determine the order of the processes." > > I read the top man but it does not explain what weighted cpu is and raw cpu is. > hmmm... http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=57634 I am not sure if this information helps or not. I was a little bit confused after reading it. -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 14:47:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D657316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:47:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B8D43D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDAF60DB; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:47:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73061-05; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:47:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50E860D8; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:47:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423D8D1C.1080407@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:47:56 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry Bell References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <423D78FF.7080108@makeworld.com> <3649.24.98.86.57.1111325354.squirrel@24.98.86.57> In-Reply-To: <3649.24.98.86.57.1111325354.squirrel@24.98.86.57> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:47:58 -0000 Jerry Bell wrote: > Count me in on the group that doesn't think that a web-based system is > adequate for the enterprise, but in the realm of web-based groupware > systems, I have taken a strong liking to group office. I've not used all > of these below, but I've been most impressed with group office's interface > and features. http://sourceforge.net/projects/group-office/ > > Jerry > http://www.syslog.org That's a nice one - So allow me to jump ahead of Anthony, while many of these products are in the infant stages, and others are developed very well - they may not do EXACTLY what Exchange does. Then again, for the overall cost of these alternative products, there is lots to offer, and the future looks very bright indeed for these Open Source alternatives. The biggest thing that MS needs to consider (or even worry about) is while companies consider the overall cost of the commercial products, they can consider the cost of the Open Source products as viable candidates. Once you factor in the savings of the app, the cost to train the staff, and the hours lost - it well may come out the same as the cost of using Exchange... With only one major factor to consider. What's the cost of maintenance? How much does it cost to upgrade your Exchange Server? Consider all the aspects involved with that, IE: Windows2000 has an initial end of support date of June 2005. So, if that date holds true, you need to upgrade the OS Exchange runs on, and if you run Exchange2000, what's the life of that, being that Exchange2003 is out. On the other hand, with OS, it's a minimal fee for the OS (if you pay for it) and the same with the OS Exchange alternatives. While I like Exchange, I do see the alternatives making very strong advances and arguments to be used. >>Have a look here: >> >>eGroupWare (at egroupware.org) >> >>OpenGroupware.org (at opengroupware.org) >> >>Open Source Exchange Replacement (at oser.sourceforge.net) >> >>OPEN-XCHANGE (at open-xchange.org) >> >>PHPGroupware (at phpgroupware.org) >> >>-- >>Best regards, >>Chris >> -- Best regards, Chris A little ignorance can go a long way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 14:59:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9008916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:59:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E1243D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0IDN00H01OBUBN@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0IDN00H34OBT6M@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:59:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (enuxgs.eas.asu.edu [149.169.30.26]) (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j2KExqMC028377 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:59:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:59:52 -0500 From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <5d0a6193149d96e3dc066a82f6253179@asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: xfce4 & networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:59:54 -0000 Hello all, ################### ## Synopsis: ################### I just installed FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE doing the prepackaged User+X11 option, I updated everything (minus the RELEASE Security updates) with portupgrade, and then I installed xfce4 (cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 ; make install clean). When I run xfce4 with the startxfce4 command, it displays an error message (in X11, not on the terminal) that says, " Could not look up internet address for iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net., This will prevent Xfce from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. to the file /etc/hosts on your system. [ Continue anyway ] [Try again] If I hit [Try again], it keeps repeating the message and when I hit [Continue Anyway], it ends up killing X11 sending me back to my terminal. X11 (X.org 6.8.2) is configured and works properly with the wonderful Twm window manager. The internet works, at least enough that I was running links in another virtual terminal searching for answers to my problem and that it was able to update the system downloading programs. ################### ## Additional Information: ################### uname -a gives (note that I am typing it as I see it, so if there are a few space mistakes, please forgive (I cannot login to my email acct. via links))... FreeBSD iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I am running an Intel Pentium III 450 MHz // nvidia RIVA TNT w/ 8MB RAM. I go through Comcast for high speed internet and the line of sight from Comcast to me is, Comcast --> Cable Modem --> Netgear Wifi Router --> Computer. During installation, it asked me if I wanted to configure my network settings, so I did. It asked for the computer name so I typed in iqast and it filled in the rest automatically (including the odd . after the net, i.e. iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. ). ################### ## What I have done. ################### I took the error messages advice and started playing with /etc/hosts on one virtual terminal (making changes as root) whilst seeing if the changes would work on another one (I would run startxfce4 as my normal user account, not my root account). I have tried a plethora of configurations and they will either produce the same result or bypass the error and just kill X11 in place of the error. This is my first time using/installing FreeBSD, so I am definitely in the newbie bunch. I searched Google, the FreeBSD FAQ, Documentation (where I did find some info on /etc/hosts, but not enough to help me fix my problem), Xfce.org, and the mailing list archives. If I have missed something, I do apologize. If this message is meant for a different mailing list, I do apologize for that as well; if this is the case, could you point me in the direction I am to ask? Anyways, thank you for your assistance in this matter and for reading this overlong email. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Anthony Agelastos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:01:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2CA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:01:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aries.siriushosting.com (aries.siriushosting.com [69.90.216.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59BE43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:01:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suck@my-balls.com) Received: from localhost.worldwithoutwire.com (CPE00105a1ca6aa-CM00111a59be16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.197.92.181]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KF1Wgo027811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:01:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:00:58 -0500 To: "Charles Swiger" , "Ted Mittelstaedt" References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> From: Adam Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54u1 (OpenBSD, build 892) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:41:33 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 20, 2005, at 2:24 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > [ ... ] >> In that case Dell is a customer of Adaptec, not the other way around, >> so any NDA that Dell might require for Adaptec to sign would not >> have restricted Adaptec's use of it's own programming documentation. > > And you know this, because...? > > You've read that NDA and you know just what it says and what it covers? > Prove it! > >>> You've failed to address the point. Do you claim that Adaptec is in a >>> position to ignore an NDA they have with a company like Intel or Dell? >> >> The point is they obviously don't have an NDA with Intel since the >> programming docs for the i860 are open already. (at least the don't >> have an NDA that covers this aspect of their relationship, which is all >> we care about) > > Have you read the NDA between Adaptec and Intel? > If not, how do you know just what it does or does not cover? > > Once again, you're making claims of fact about a document that you've > probably never seen. > I think you are making wild assertions and have not even a shred of > evidence to justify them. Speaking of wild assertions with no evidence, why exactly do you keep making up rediculous excuses for a company that hates you? Why do you think that adaptec is special and had to sign NDAs with intel and dell(?!) to make the same products with the same chips that other vendors clearly didn't have to sign NDAs to make? If you understood the subject at hand, you would realize how rediculous your fairy tales are. There is absolutely no reason that adaptec cannot release documentation for their hardware. Nobody even needs to know how the intel chip works, just how to speak to the adaptec firmware. Adaptec doesn't want you to buy their hardware, and your reaction is to try to justify that stupidity for them, since they can't do it? If you like being shit on that's up to you, but don't tell us that we should like it too, or try to justify why adaptec thinks its customers are toilets. Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:04:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp4.tin.it (vsmtp4.tin.it [212.216.176.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3C643D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:04:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from wireless (62.211.199.93) by vsmtp4.tin.it (7.0.027) id 42384649001A4E21; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:04:02 +0100 From: Vittorio Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:02:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200503201602.40744.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> cc: Aiuto Subject: Solved problem with hylafax: How to help other users now X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:04:05 -0000 Dear Friends, I had the problem reported in the message below with hylafax installation=20 compiled from scratch from=20 the standard ports of rel.5.3.=20 I solved the problem "asking around" to many mailing lists and found the=20 solution which - in this case - was as simple as: chmod a+rx -R /var/spool Now hylafax works! BUT ... if another user compiles hylafax from the ports chances are it will= =20 come across the same problems.=20 How can I help avoiding this? Is there a bug reporting mailing list or should I write to the mantainer of= =20 the program (maho 'at' freebsd 'dot' org) to indicate my solution?=20 =46urthermore, not being an expert my solution could introduce some securit= y=20 hole in the system; who's going to check it? Ciao Vittorio =20 =2D--------- Messaggio inoltrato ---------- Subject: Problems with /var/spool/hylafax Date: 12:57, mercoled=EC 16 marzo 2005 =46rom: v.demartino2@virgilio.it To: "FreeBSD" Under FBSD 5.3 I've just compiled hylafax from the ports, set up the modem with faxsetup and then started "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample start" =2E.. BUT...... /var/log/messages complains that: VicBSD FaxQueuer[668]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory VicBSD HylaFAX[669]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax VicBSD FaxQueuer[739]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory VicBSD HylaFAX[740]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax What's the matter with it and what shall I do? Here it is a "ls -al /var/spool/hylafax" total 40 drwxr-xr-x 17 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 . drwx------ 9 daemon daemon 512 Mar 15 21:43 .. =2Dr--r--r-- 1 root dialer 5426 Mar 15 21:43 COPYRIGHT prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 15 21:43 FIFO prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 16 09:07 FIFO.cuaa0 drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 archive drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:05 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 client drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 1536 Mar 15 21:43 config drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 dev drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 docq drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 doneq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 info drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 log drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 pollq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 recvq drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 sendq drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:01 status drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 tmp Ciao Vittorio _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =2D------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:22:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597D216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA93243D62 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:22:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so704787rng for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=cY2LZl9JQFOocF9bl2qiz8eAKubB0JzZQzzD4X9mpMCIDDAJ6UL2n98l0txZOSWEYai7t6qUdyX9N0ociQd4a9JLMHcY2W8IJoLUKX2LdkRTiIGawJGl54r4WIdVloHNzbC0daL+LdjxoMw9QlWX4oHTvWvlvVjGcwaUb0Qxoao= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3909376rnd; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:22:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:22:24 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Abu Khaled In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is the difference between WCPU and CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:22:25 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:09:18 +0200, Abu Khaled wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:10:57 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:57:32 +0200, Abu Khaled wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:04:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > I was looking at top and wondering the difference between WCPU and CPU > > > > > > Have you tried "man top" > > > > > > "WCPU, when displayed, is the weighted cpu percentage (this is the > > > same value that ps(1) displays as CPU), CPU is the raw percentage and > > > is the field that is sorted to determine the order of the processes." > > > > I read the top man but it does not explain what weighted cpu is and raw cpu is. > > > http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=57634 > i like the last sentence, nice and simpel. why couldnt they call it ECPU estimated cpu time? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:25:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6572116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:25:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ss.eunet.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D0143D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from localhost.i.cz (ss.eunet.cz [193.85.228.13]) by ss.eunet.cz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2KFPFZS047090; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:25:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) From: Michal Mertl To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" In-Reply-To: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:25:14 +0100 Message-Id: <1111332314.648.44.camel@genius2.i.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:25:18 -0000 Eugene M. Minkovskii pí¹e v ne 20. 03. 2005 v 12:31 +0300: > Hello! > > Does any body know, how can I use OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) for > determine total traffic volume on network interface? If it's > impossible, what facility you recommend me to do this? > I don't know much about pf, but I use ipfw and /usr/ports/sysutils/ipa for the purpose. Works very well for me. IPFW itself has counters but ipa makes the stats persist across reboots and changes to the ruleset. Be carefull not to reconfigure ipfw from under running ipa - it will think the counters overflowed and add huge numbers to the last known value. Additionally ipa can do much more than just simple counters. I configure it like this: ipfw: 100 add allow all from any to any in via xl0 110 add allow all from any to any out via xl0 ipa(/usr/local/etc/ipa.conf): rule xl0-in { ipfw = 100 info = Incoming traffic for xl0 } rule xl0-out { ipfw = 110 info = Outgoing traffic for xl0 } HTH Michal Mertl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:36:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4183716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:36:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vsmtp14.tin.it (vsmtp14.tin.it [212.216.176.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC16643D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:36:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.demartino2@virgilio.it) Received: from wireless (62.211.199.93) by vsmtp14.tin.it (7.0.027) id 4227B878006DD7D5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:36:36 +0100 From: Vittorio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:35:15 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503201602.40744.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> In-Reply-To: <200503201602.40744.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503201635.15825.v.demartino2@virgilio.it> Subject: Re: Solved problem with hylafax: How to help other users now X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:36:39 -0000 Sorry for the silly question. Forget it! Only after sending the email I noticed that in www.freebsd.org there's a r= ich=20 bug reporting section. I will use it, of course. Ciao Vittorio Alle 16:02, domenica 20 marzo 2005, Vittorio ha scritto: > Dear Friends, > > I had the problem reported in the message below with hylafax installation > compiled from scratch from > the standard ports of rel.5.3. > I solved the problem "asking around" to many mailing lists and found the > solution which - in this case - was as simple as: > > chmod a+rx -R /var/spool > > Now hylafax works! > > BUT ... if another user compiles hylafax from the ports chances are it wi= ll > come across the same problems. > How can I help avoiding this? > Is there a bug reporting mailing list or should I write to the mantainer = of > the program (maho 'at' freebsd 'dot' org) to indicate my solution? > Furthermore, not being an expert my solution could introduce some security > hole in the system; who's going to check it? > > Ciao > Vittorio > > > ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ---------- > > Subject: Problems with /var/spool/hylafax > Date: 12:57, mercoled=EC 16 marzo 2005 > From: v.demartino2@virgilio.it > To: "FreeBSD" > > Under FBSD 5.3 I've just compiled hylafax from the ports, set up the modem > with faxsetup and then started "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample > start" ... > BUT...... > /var/log/messages complains that: > VicBSD FaxQueuer[668]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory > VicBSD HylaFAX[669]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax > VicBSD FaxQueuer[739]: /var/spool/hylafax: Can not change directory > VicBSD HylaFAX[740]: Can not change directory to /var/spool/hylafax > > What's the matter with it and what shall I do? > > Here it is a "ls -al /var/spool/hylafax" > total 40 > drwxr-xr-x 17 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 . > drwx------ 9 daemon daemon 512 Mar 15 21:43 .. > -r--r--r-- 1 root dialer 5426 Mar 15 21:43 COPYRIGHT > prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 15 21:43 FIFO > prw------- 1 uucp dialer 0 Mar 16 09:07 FIFO.cuaa0 > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 archive > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:05 bin > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 client > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 1536 Mar 15 21:43 config > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 dev > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 docq > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 doneq > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:07 etc > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 info > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 log > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 pollq > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 recvq > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 sendq > drwxr-xr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 16 09:01 status > drwx------ 2 uucp dialer 512 Mar 15 21:43 tmp > > Ciao > Vittorio > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 15:44:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12BA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:44:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf40.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E779A43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:44:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TastyNachos@charter.net) Received: from mxip17.cluster1.charter.net (mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.147])j2KFicTx009397 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:44:38 -0500 Received: from 68-189-90-224.ca.charter.com (HELO [172.16.64.102]) (68.189.90.224) by mxip17.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 20 Mar 2005 10:44:38 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,104,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="839273950:sNHT13912010" From: Remington To: "Georg-W. Koltermann" In-Reply-To: <1111277436.1092.11.camel@localhost.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com> References: <1111277436.1092.11.camel@localhost.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:27:55 -0800 Message-Id: <1111296475.3593.0.camel@baby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: boris@brooknet.com.au Subject: Re: Windows Mobile connected via uppc-kmod, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:44:40 -0000 I have this working successfully with a Dell Axim PDA. Please attach relevant logs and conf files On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 01:10 +0100, Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to connect my BlueMedia PDA (rebrand of Yakumo Delta 300 > GPS) to FreeBSD 5.3 using the uppc-kmod port. > > I am having problems to get the connection up. The ppp log shows that > the link is established briefly but then immediately disconnects. It > never makes it to talk to dccm. > > Is anyone out there using this? Does it work at all? > > -- > Regards, > Georg. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:17:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BEA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB30043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2KGHEmS013431; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KGHBAu012651; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:17:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:17:10 -0500 To: Adam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:21 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Adam wrote: >> Have you read the NDA between Adaptec and Intel? >> If not, how do you know just what it does or does not cover? >> >> Once again, you're making claims of fact about a document that you've >> probably never seen. >> I think you are making wild assertions and have not even a shred of >> evidence to justify them. > > Speaking of wild assertions with no evidence, why exactly do you keep > making up rediculous excuses for a company that hates you? Good example! You've come up with another wild assertion. Adaptec doesn't hate me. Why would that company know me personally, much less have a strong negative opinion? > Why do you think that adaptec is special and had to sign NDAs with > intel and dell(?!) > to make the same products with the same chips that other vendors > clearly > didn't have to sign NDAs to make? I don't think Adaptec is special. It's normal for companies to enter into a NDA agreement with their partners, and I'd bet a dollar to a donut that LSI, Promise, 3ware, and other vendors of RAID hardware also have NDA agreements which would prevent those companies from making every single internal document available to the public. > There is absolutely no reason that adaptec cannot release > documentation for their > hardware. Nobody even needs to know how the intel chip works, just how > to speak to the adaptec firmware. Let's pretend you're right, just for the sake of argument. Let's say that Adaptec could release all of their docs. You've given them an ultimatum, and they've said no. I've dealt with a few people who have told me "do it my way, or else". I've chosen the "or else" part without any regret whatsoever: I make my own decisions, nobody else, and the people who have tried to control my decisions have gotten exactly nothing from me as a result. Nor will they, ever. > Adaptec doesn't want you to buy their hardware, Do you claim to speak for Adaptec? Your words are dangerously ill-chosen if you do not work for Adaptec, because you are misleading people about the company and about their products. Besides, I'm quite sure you're wrong: Adaptec wants me and other potential customers to buy their products, just as any other hardware vendor would. > and your reaction is to try to justify that stupidity for them, > since they can't do it? If you like being shit on that's up to you, > but > don't tell us that we should like it too, or try to justify why adaptec > thinks its customers are toilets. You remind me of someone I knew once that went off the deep end into paranoid delusions. I once tried to explain to that person that, no, nobody was spying on me, or on him either. I think someone spying on me would be bored, quite frankly. Children learn to accept "no" in the process of growing up. They learn to deal with the world not giving them anything and everything the child might demand, the moment it is demanded. To use your crude metaphor, I tolerate-- not admire-- potty talk from a child that hasn't been toilet-trained, but it's past time for you and Theo to grow up and start acting like adults, rather than like ill-bred, spoiled children throwing temper tantrums when told "no". -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:17:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550C716A4FD for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69D343D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 510); 20 Mar 2005 16:18:06 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. 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(bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 16:18:04 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:18:04 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:27 -0000 Hi all, Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from Comcast users !! Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618FA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72D943D53 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:22:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDAD60DB; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73694-01; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B08560D8; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423DA33F.6020605@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Slade References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:22:31 -0000 Robert Slade wrote: > Hi all, > > Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail > address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from > Comcast users !! > > Rob Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a Windows box AND is infected. Shame on you -- Best regards, Chris If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:38:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B021A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:38:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBF443D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:38:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2KGcfOS045976 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:38:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j2KGcfF9045973; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:38:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:38:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Karl Agee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050320093355.L45888@wonkity.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:38:41 -0700 (MST) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printer gone beszerk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:38:42 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Karl Agee wrote: > FreeBSD 4.11-Stable. My printer has gone beszerk.......and, I cant clear the > queue. > > Here is some output: > > bash-2.05b$ lpq -P hp > Warning: unable to get address list for remote machine : No address > associated with hostname > Warning: no daemon present > Rank Owner Job Files Total Size > 1st kdagee 0 (standard input) 145143 bytes > 2nd kdagee 1 (standard input) 74513 bytes > 3rd kdagee 2 (standard input) 967543 bytes > 4th kdagee 3 (standard input) 406428 bytes > bash-2.05b$ lprm - > lprm: getprintcap: printer not found > > bash-2.05b$ cat /etc/printcap > # This file was automatically generated by cupsd(8) from the > # /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf file. All changes to this file > # will be lost. > hp|hp:rm=:rp=hp: > > This is a local printer on lp0. I set it up using apsfilter, and I dont use > cups. Your printcap disagrees with both of those sentences. See the handbook chapter on printing for the way to do this. If you have FreeBSD sources installed, /usr/src/etc/printcap should contain the sample file. Pay particular attention to the lp, rm, and rp parameters. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:50:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE6316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5826D43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oliverfuchs@onlinehome.de) Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD3cr-0007nI-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:50:05 +0100 Received: from [217.246.200.198] (helo=oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD3cq-0002RQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:50:06 +0100 Received: from oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (localhost.onlinehome.de [127.0.0.1]) j2KGnt2K002802 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de) Received: (from oliverfuchs1@localhost) by oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2KGmX1P002789 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:48:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliverfuchs1) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:48:33 +0100 From: Oliver Fuchs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320164833.GA2767@oliverfuchs.onlinehome.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:c2b2791553508cc938db2bcf18721a3c Subject: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:08 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > I'm trying to set up sendmail to route outgoing mail to an external SMTP server. I need this for Mutt, which doesn't have its own means of transfering mail and relies on whatever MTA the system provides. I found out about sendmail's SMARTHOST capability and added this line to my .mc configuration file (built by 'cd /etc/mail && make && make install'): > > define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.liu.se') Hi, the FEATURE has to be: define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.liu.se]')dnl Optional you can use the authinfo-file feature: FEATURE(`authinfo')dnl If so create a file /etc/mail/authinfo wiht something like this: AuthInfo:smtp.liu.se "U:yourusername" "P:yourpassword" Go to /etc/mail and run as root: makemap hash authinfo < authinfo chmod 600 authinfo authinfo.db Oliver > > I then installed the changes with 'make && make install && make restart'. Now, whenever I try to send mail from Mutt, I get back the following failure notice: > > > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > [-- Bilaga #1 --] > [-- Typ: text/plain, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,5K --] > > The original message was received at Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to smtp.liu.se.: > >>> DATA > <<< 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > [-- Bilaga #2 --] > [-- Typ: message/delivery-status, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,4K --] > > Reporting-MTA: dns; obygden > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost > Arrival-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; ulfma629@student.liu.se > Action: failed > Status: 5.5.4 > Remote-MTA: DNS; smtp.liu.se > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 504 : Sender address rejected: need > +fully-qualified address > Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > > [-- Bilaga #3 --] > [-- Typ: message/rfc822, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,7K --] > > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 > From: Ulf Magnusson > To: ulfma629@student.liu.se > Subject: test > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i > > test > > > any ideas? Please be aware that I'm totally new to sendmail when replying :) -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:50:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002B116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from reiche.trumpetpower.com (reiche.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9155943D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@trumpetpower.com) Received: from [65.39.81.114] (doc.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.114]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KGoeJw024002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:50:41 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2--113755899" Message-Id: <59c71e1bee73231baed28daa5bf32b7a@trumpetpower.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Goren Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:50:30 -0700 To: Charles Swiger X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: Doug Richardson Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:50:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--113755899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2005 Mar 20, at 6:41 AM, Charles Swiger wrote: > While I haven't seen Adaptec's NDA agreements, I'd bet a stack of > nickels they exist and limit the information Adaptec is able to make > public. This is a moot point. If Adaptec has been foolish enough to bind their own hands in this manner then they have demonstrated a serious lack of judgment. Consider: if Adaptec is bound to the sort of NDAs that you suggest, they'd be unable to sell to the military or NASA or other big institutions with R&D departments that would want exactly what Theo is asking for himself. If true, it's just another nail in Adaptec's coffin. Cheers, b& --Apple-Mail-2--113755899 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCPanbpxyAy2XznCMRAhSAAJ4j9YX01P5BRLWaOkX2kbMfXhUGPwCeMuaL p6aIJlkejve39lDkQP52W+k= =RFcL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2--113755899-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:53:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BD516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEE543D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:53:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no ([194.54.107.19]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2KGrbBM021084 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:53:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:31:59 +0300") Message-ID: <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:53:47 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > Does any body know, how can I use OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) for > determine total traffic volume on network interface? If it's > impossible, what facility you recommend me to do this? Various pfctl -s options (eg pfctl -s info) give you counters of bytes and packets passed or blocked. If you use labels in your pass rules, you'll get per label counters as well. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:54:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC6D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:54:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (MS05.mailstreet2003.net [63.251.155.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FBA43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2203801690@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Managing virtual e-mails Thread-Index: AcUtS7ONPFcP46D8R0GU5n1hPzI+YAAISupg From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" , Subject: RE: Managing virtual e-mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:54:37 -0000 Someone broke the silence:=20 > Hello. >=20 > I am running the Postfix+Courier on MySQL setup found on: >=20 > http://www.high5.net/howto >=20 > I am wondering how to add and delete users, as well as adding > and deleting aliases -- and managing my virtual e-mail database > in general -- using a pure, clean and efficient approach, > rather than having to use Postfixadmin, which I find to be sort > of unprofessional and bloated with bad design. >=20 > For instance, I managed to avoid using the PHPMyAdmin, and > instead got all my setup recorded in clean text: >=20 You can just create any applications that has SQL capabilities. Code your own PHP website with administration functions? Python application? C application? Ruby application?...the list goes on. Chris =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 16:55:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:55:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751BC43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2KGt2gq046031; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:55:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j2KGt2gr046028; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:55:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:55:02 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Robert Slade In-Reply-To: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050320094632.G45888@wonkity.com> References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:55:02 -0700 (MST) cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:55:09 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Robert Slade wrote: > Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail > address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from > Comcast users !! Mail to this list is reposted on the web and through multiple mail-to-news gateways. So your address was likely harvested. As to Comcast, it's a multitude of Windows users on high-speed connections, many of them running infected machines that are broadcasting viruses and spam. If you have your own mailserver, most of this can be rejected by using greylisting or by rejecting mail from dynamic Comcast IP addresses, while still allowing mail coming from Comcast's mail servers. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:10:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:10:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B26D543D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 28137 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2005 17:10:11 -0000 Received: from batv-01-060.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.61) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 17:10:11 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050320110827.3b0766b0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:09:31 -0600 To: Robert Slade From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:10:15 -0000 At 10:18 3/20/2005, Robert Slade wrote: >Hi all, > >Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail >address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from >Comcast users !! Please forward them (include headers) to: Spoof@Ebay.com. Same for Spoof@PayPal.com. Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:22:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682FC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C4743D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DD461-0003iV-9S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:14 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:13 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <20050320094632.G45888@wonkity.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-20, Warren Block scribbled these curious markings: > If you have your own mailserver, most of this can be rejected by using > greylisting or by rejecting mail from dynamic Comcast IP addresses, > while still allowing mail coming from Comcast's mail servers. Which is completely and totally unfair to those of us who *can* control our networks and who are more than likely being blamed for things that we aren't even doing (i.e. machines not on Comcast's network forging headers). DNS blacklisting is one of the most unfair methods of stopping spam. It's a real pain in the neck for me to edit my Postfix configuration every time some pissy netadmin decides to blacklist a whole netblock because of one or two (ignorant) miscreants. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPa89k/lo7zvzJioRAtqnAJ9EDa1GEhNIyphls0xSuPwvDq+48ACgh7qQ ctRpzUxRNGO9q8FCIdkyBYM= =XKVA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:43:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E3416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:43:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B40B43D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:43:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD4S9-00073H-00; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:43:05 +0100 Received: from [84.151.205.159] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD4S9-0000nE-00; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:43:06 +0100 Message-ID: <423DB62A.8030807@myunix.net> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:43:06 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , questions@FreeBSD.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:43:11 -0000 As I follow this discussion an idea/question forms in my head. The server side should be managed by BSD, but the client side is most surely an heterogeneous group. So a solution to somehow emulate/simulate an exchange server on an box (or cluster of sql horde what ever servers), and import this e.g. calendar data into a BSD solution. As I understand the so far mentioned products, these are quite capable of doing so. Then there would be an easy solution to different likes in clients. As I am not at all a skilled programmer I can not appraise the work that would be needed to establish such a thing. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:51:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D1316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dfrobd01.vailsys.com (chrobd01.vailsys.com [63.210.102.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D643D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpettit@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dfrobd01.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73946FF21; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:51:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost.vail (unknown [172.16.5.100]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD0156E4; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (from rpettit@localhost) by localhost.vail (ailsys.com/8.13.1/Submit) id j2KHltuQ026029; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:55 -0600 From: Rick Pettit To: Theo de Raadt Message-ID: <20050320174754.GB28910@vailsys.com> Mail-Followup-To: Theo de Raadt , Scott Long , Aaron Glenn , Adam , misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423C8EBD.9000906@samsco.org> <200503192149.j2JLn4x3007350@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503192149.j2JLn4x3007350@cvs.openbsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Aaron Glenn cc: Adam Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:51:23 -0000 On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 02:49:04PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: [snip] > And how many more people have learned from this and will avoid > Adaptec products? At least one, and that one will share his feelings with coworkers and friends in the field you can be sure. > (perhaps these circles where it is being discusssed is on the fringe, > but people in this fringe circle buy or are involved in the purchases > for a LOT of hardware. Much like if Cisco fucks up and someone brings > note of it to NANOG. Then Cisco jumps. If Adaptec does not jump now, > Adaptec is retarded.) Could be getting too late already. People don't forget so easy when they hear that hardware from vendor X doesn't work. Also, those of us who care about free software now associate Adaptec with problems. I have no pity for Adaptec. They have made their own bed. -Rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:06:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D6E16A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:06:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (95.101.202.62.cust.bluewin.ch [62.202.101.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A34F43D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:06:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2KI94JI082541; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:09:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2KI93Tr082540; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:09:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:09:03 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Freek Nossin Message-ID: <20050320180903.GA82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Freek Nossin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050316090436.59B7C13B6DE@kweetal.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050316090436.59B7C13B6DE@kweetal.tue.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:06:56 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Freek I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X-Version?=20 FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > Hello,=20 > =20 > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not even as > root with > =20 > #kill -9 > =20 > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling list, but I > could not find a solution.=20 >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0422= 64. > html > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0421= 62. > html > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0422= 22. > html > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0422= 04. > html > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0424= 88. > html > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/0421= 56. > html >=20 > Does anybody have an idea?=20 >=20 > Freek >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPbw/wa4WkdMP0jkRAnaQAKD0Cgq1HGAmn2YQ5cV7L1/crxza2ACfQem1 eoBII73tGNhXaaTLB0IFKuw= =5qoY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:18:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EB116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5F343D55 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3BD1D1C0009C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:18:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D15791C00099 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:18:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320181821857.D15791C00099@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:18:21 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:24 -0000 Duo writes: > And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid it by > answering it. I did answer it. I asked for a product that provides ALL the features of Exchange. And he surely knows what all of the features of Exchange are, otherwise he could not say with confidence that other UNIX products provide them. > As for looking for non microsoft solutions, yes. There is a point to > that. It's called voting with your pocketbook, and its a valid course > of action in a capitalist society. Choosing to go outside a monopoly > is a right. So you never buy Intel microprocessors, and you never buy anything with a zipper? (Remember, YKK has a virtual world monopoly on zippers.) > And yes, looking for non MS solutions, for the sake of it, is a valid > choice. Not for many corporate managers. They don't care whether it's Microsoft or not, as long as it's the best tool for the job. People don't usually reach the upper levels of management in large corporations by indulging emotional attachments to one vendor or another. > It's the only way some things get better. If you had been using Microsoft Mail (or its inferior predecessor, Network Courrier, which Microsoft bought, modified, and marketed as Microsoft Mail), you could have gone to Exchange and things would have gotten a lot better ... without ever leaving Microsoft. > If for instance, I go with a product of MS, as opposed to a smaller > OSS project, the OSS Project typically *cares* about the feedback I > give it. It cares about the features I want and need. So does Microsoft. That's how it stays on top. It's all a bit amusing, since I remember when Microsoft was the underdog and the Great Satan was IBM or DEC. The names change, but the game remains the same, and the flying accusations are just as baseless today as they were back then. It's a pity that no discussion of software can be carried out these days without degenerating into religious jihads against Microsoft. > I need a credit card before MS will talk to me. You need a stroke of good luck before someone working on open source will talk to you. I'm still waiting for solutions to my SATA and SCSI problems. > The Exchange solution might be best for a gold partner with M$, but > overall, a very poor solution, which locks you into a feature set, and > a company that has shown little concern for its base of customers. The success of the product would seem to belie your claim. A lot of organizations and users really like Exchange. > In regards to its use of JET, Jet2003 cannot handle any other process > running against its datastore, because it dosent have the ability to cache > and then commit like a REAL RDBMS. There's only one process running against the database in Exchange. I have yet to see anything on microcomputers that I'd call a real DBMS, but perhaps someone out there is coming close. Eventually they'll reinvent what mainframe programmers knew thirty-five years ago. > This is a problem for things such as virus scanning, and tight > integration with an AD Environment, which is getting more and more > replication based. In fact, some types of virus scanning can introduce > data corruption of the store, which could lead to other issues. Step number one in any Exchange database failure is to turn off and deinstall all the antivirus junk running against it. I'd tend to prefer to put antivirus stuff on the client, not on the server. Some users may not want their e-mail scanned for viruses. Power users, in particular, may not want any virus protections at all, since they know not to click on attachments and antivirus software all too often hashes the very system it's supposed to protect. > What's more, the virus scanners that do run against Exchange's DB, > also cost money, and typically require some more hardware. And > overhead. So now I am running exchange, and a bevy of other stuff to > prop it up. You don't have to run virus scanners. > The whole point of UNIX, and Open Source is a number of people, getting > together and saying..."It shouldnt have to be that hard" Or a number of people drifting apart and saying "I'm tired of working on this." Or a number of people saying, "Look, I'm not paid for this, if you have a problem with it, get the source and fix it yourself." > MS has had YEARS to put a SQL backend onto Exchange, yet have not. That was a deliberate choice on the part of MS, mainly because they were worried about performance and about flexibility. I've always felt that it might not have been a very good decision, but there you have it. Then again, I'm not sure that _any_ kind of database is really a good idea in a messaging system. You really don't need a full database for e-mail. > With its history, and its track record, and indeed, with even most > recommending a dry SMTP server outside of the regular exchange server, > exchange is hardly a worthwhile solution. With the number of machines > you need to run Exchange properly, (basically, 2-3) with freeBSD, I > can do *alot* more. Real-world installations demonstrate that Exchange is indeed a very worthwhile solution for many large organizations. The rich feature set it provides more than compensates for its shortcomings, in the eyes of these organizations. > Not quite the "same" featureset as Exchange, but, I am supporting > developers who *care* about what I want. Microsoft cares, too, and many changes and features in Exchange were driven by customer demand. Companies that don't care go out of business. Open-source developers tend to care about doing stuff that's fun, and ignoring stuff that isn't. So if the features you want are fun to write, you'll get them; otherwise you won't. > I am voting with my pocketbook ... How much are you paying the open-source developers? > ... and, its highly arrogant of you to sit there and thinly accuse > people of not doing right by their situation by not choosing M$ > because they dont want to use MS. I think it is professionally irresponsible to let one's emotions drive one's choice of vendor or product--particularly when one is being paid to make recommendations on these. If one can't choose the best tool for the job with a cool and objective head, it may be wise to move to another career that one doesn't take so personally. > Not wanting to use MS is a perfectly valid course of action ... Not for most large organizations and end users. They don't care. They just want the right tool for the job, and they don't care where it comes from. > There probably isint a one stop shop. I know. And that's a big point in favor of Exchange. > However, there dosent need to be. Yes, there does, for organizations that don't want to hire legions of consultants or geeky IT staff to stitch something together from bits and pieces. > In fact, there is something to be said for multiple services offering > features. Exchange is bloated. Alot of its problems come from this bloat. So do a lot of its features and advantages. In large organizations, Exchange looks pretty small and insignificant compared to their overall IT infrastructure. Buying a dozen cutting-edge servers to support Exchange is just pocket change to them. > Id rather have 5 different standards compliant services (LDAP based) > talking to one another, maybe with a text db, or sql backend, than one > huge asinine monstrosity, with a crappy and outdated DB backend, running > mission critical for me. You might, but many other organizations have different ideas. > Bullshit. Exchange is the perfect example of microsofts policy of embrace > and extend. How so? > Id rather have world wide standards, not the > standards (or features that MS feels are standards) Microsoft feels I > need, or that I should have to pay for. Exchange originally relied heavily on the X.400 standard, which Microsoft did not write. They wanted it to conform to standards, and SMTP/POP were too simplistic to fit the feature set they wanted, so they went with X.400. Unfortunately, nobody really used X.400 outside of a handful of organizations, and so they gradually shifted towards SMTP models. Of course, the internal architecture has always been proprietary, but it was largely driven by a need to fit existing standards. > Funny, then you are one of 5 people I know of, who claim to have no > problem. I'm one of the people who knew what he was doing. > Indeed, I see ads in the paper all the time, for "Exchange Admins". Id > rather have spend my money on one guy who knows SQL, Postfix, apache, LDAP > etc, than one guy, who knows one server. Apparently employers don't agree. > The mere fact that Exchange admin can be a full time job is sad enough. In large organizations, mail administration is often a full-time job for an entire department of people. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:18:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1981D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF76E43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])CD83718001A5 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:44 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Mar 2005 18:18:44 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6FDB4BE6D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:18:44 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Haulmark, Chris" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:18:44 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050320181844.B6FDB4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: RE: Managing virtual e-mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:18:45 -0000 And if I cannot code? ... Will you code one for me? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haulmark, Chris" To: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Managing virtual e-mails Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:53:29 -0500 >=20 > Someone broke the silence: >=20 > > Hello. > > > > I am running the Postfix+Courier on MySQL setup found on: > > > > http://www.high5.net/howto > > > > I am wondering how to add and delete users, as well as adding > > and deleting aliases -- and managing my virtual e-mail database > > in general -- using a pure, clean and efficient approach, > > rather than having to use Postfixadmin, which I find to be sort > > of unprofessional and bloated with bad design. > > > > For instance, I managed to avoid using the PHPMyAdmin, and > > instead got all my setup recorded in clean text: > > >=20 > You can just create any applications that has SQL capabilities. Code > your own PHP website with administration functions? Python application? > C application? Ruby application?...the list goes on. >=20 > Chris >=20 > --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:25:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE3716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA5C43D48 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CD5BB1C00096 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9A4531C00094 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320182530632.9A4531C00094@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:25:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:25:32 -0000 Duo writes: > And, one stop shopping is not always the best course of action. In fact, > it's extremely limiting in alot of ways. Maybe, but that's the way a lot of organizations do it, and they have both good and bad reasons for doing it that way. > Another thing, Exchange may "have it all" as you say, but I say: the more > you overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the sink. True, but in large organizations you don't have a choice. > Exchange's many issues come from its bloated nature. Yes. So do its advantages. > I said it before, Ill say it again: I'll take 4 or 5 different OSS > services, that do the same job as Exchange any day. But you may not be the one making the decision. > I guarantee they will be more scalable, cheaper > TCO, and the developers will be far more receptive to my feedback than MS > ever will be. If they are reliable, adequate solutions ... why do you need developers? > And, the folks who buy into MS's embrace and extend are a dime a dozen. Exchange was a Microsoft invention, although it did adhere to certain standards. It implemented X.400 quite well (too bad nobody wanted X.400). > The original post in this thread, was about emulating an environment in > which to run exchange. And I gave the original answer, which is that Exchange doesn't run on anything but Windows servers, period. > ... that's been answered, you on the other hand, seem to me to be > border line trolling. It takes two to engage in debate. Nobody is obligated to reply to anything I say that he considers off-topic. > What's more, even if your assesment of Exchange (that its the "best") is > correct, how can there ever be anything better, if people dont move to > other products with potential? When and if another product that is superior comes along, people may well move to it. As far as I know, however, nobody is trying to compete with Exchange. It would be a billion-dollar undertaking with very high risk, and the market potential just doesn't justify that sort of adventure. > It's your attitude that perpetuates embrace and extend. My attitude is that of a longtime IT professional who has grown out of petty schoolyard crushes and hate campaigns. I run whatever does the job best. I don't care who wrote it. I recommend what I consider to be objectively best. > No, unfortunately, people outside IT, who have zero technical > understanding of the pandora's box they open, are making these choices. Yes, that's what I said. No technical understanding ... but no love or hate, either. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:26:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697CC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aries.siriushosting.com (aries.siriushosting.com [69.90.216.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A8643D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:26:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suck@my-balls.com) Received: from localhost.worldwithoutwire.com (CPE00105a1ca6aa-CM00111a59be16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.197.92.181]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KIQCnQ020705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:26:13 -0500 (EST) To: "Charles Swiger" References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:25:37 -0500 From: Adam Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54u1 (OpenBSD, build 892) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:26:20 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:17:10 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > I don't think Adaptec is special. It's normal for companies to enter > into a NDA agreement with their partners, and I'd bet a dollar to a > donut that LSI, Promise, 3ware, and other vendors of RAID hardware also > have NDA agreements which would prevent those companies from making > every single internal document available to the public. Then you have no idea what you are talking about. Ask them, there is nothing special about their products that requires an NDA between them and their "partners". The aren't saying they can't release the docs because of NDAs, so why are you making up such a rediculous excuse for them? > You've given them an ultimatum, and they've said no. I've dealt with a > few people who have told me "do it my way, or else". I've chosen the > "or else" part without any regret whatsoever: I make my own decisions, > nobody else, and the people who have tried to control my decisions have > gotten exactly nothing from me as a result. Nor will they, ever. No, they haven't said anything. Do you have even a basic grasp of what is going on? Adaptec was asked for info, they said "we will stall for a long time and maybe give you something that might be close to what you want someday". So Theo is asking for Adaptec's customers to tell them that this matters. If Adaptec chooses to say no, then that's fine. They can lose all the business they want. In the mean time, everyone who wasted their money on adaptec hardware is free to tell adaptec that they are losing customers. I'm sorry if you feel that corporations should be shielded from critisism from their customers, but that's not how the world works. > Do you claim to speak for Adaptec? Your words are dangerously > ill-chosen if you do not work for Adaptec, because you are misleading > people about the company and about their products. Quit being such a corporate apologist. They refuse to give out the info required to use their hardware. That prevents people from using it. So they obviously don't want people to buy their hardware. Either that or they don't realize its costing them money to be stupid like this, which is the entire point of this, demonstrating to them that this will cost them money. > You remind me of someone I knew once that went off the deep end into > paranoid delusions. I once tried to explain to that person that, no, > nobody was spying on me, or on him either. I think someone spying on me > would be bored, quite frankly. You remind me of an asskisser that thinks apologizing for, and making excuses for others will get you favour in some way. I doubt adaptec will give you anything for making retarded excuses for them that don't even make sense, so you can stop. If adaptec has a reason why they won't let people use their hardware, they can tell their customers what that reason is, they don't need you making up excuses. > Children learn to accept "no" in the process of growing up. They learn > to deal with the world not giving them anything and everything the child > might demand, the moment it is demanded. And adults learn that businesses like money, and showing businesses how they will lose money by making certain decisions can effect those decisions. Maybe you should take some more time to understand what is actually happening instead of making snide remarks about what you wrongly percieve is happening. Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:30:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4507616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16CB43D58 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C0D60DB for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:30:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74134-08 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:29:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD21E60D8 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:29:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423DC12F.7080907@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:30:07 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <372015099.20050320083658@wanadoo.fr> <199800316.20050320115601@wanadoo.fr> <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >>The original post in this thread, was about emulating an environment in >>which to run exchange. > > > And I gave the original answer, which is that Exchange doesn't run on > anything but Windows servers, period. That's not entirely true. The AS/400 can and do run Windows right along side it's native OS - OS/400 Just wanted to point that out. -- Best regards, Chris The one who least wants to play is the one who will win. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:30:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A98716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0643D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 09D0F1C00099 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DB2971C00092 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050320183027897.DB2971C00092@mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:27 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <101669762.20050320193027@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423DB62A.8030807@myunix.net> References: <423DB62A.8030807@myunix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:30 -0000 Christian Tischler writes: > The server side should be managed by BSD, but the client side is most > surely an heterogeneous group. The server side of what? It all depends on the complete architecture of your IT infrastructure. For some situations, sendmail and qpopper are all you'll ever need. For other situations, you'll end up buying racks of servers running Exchange. However, from what you've said thus far, it doesn't sound like Exchange would be the right choice. > So a solution to somehow emulate/simulate an exchange server on an box > (or cluster of sql horde what ever servers), and import this e.g. > calendar data into a BSD solution. As I understand the so far mentioned > products, these are quite capable of doing so. Then there would be an > easy solution to different likes in clients. Do they really need a calendar function? Remember, once you start building this sort of stuff, it rapidly gets more and more complicated. You might end up at some point realizing that it would have all been easier with Exchange. If you _must_ have functionality equivalent to Exchange, then run Exchange. But if you don't need that functionality, run something simpler. For what it's worth, even fancy Outlook clients can access standard SMTP/POP servers. You can build a backend using only simple software, and then consider something more complex only if and when users absolutely demand it. If you are forced into implementing a very complex solution, consider going to Exchange rather than trying to cobble something together, or you might spend the next ten years trying to get it all to work. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:43:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2CA16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net (smtp2.suscom.net [64.78.83.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06A743D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:42:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from localhost (smtp2.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FEA1CDC9B; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 08850-10; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ip47.232.susc.suscom.net [216.45.232.47]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 039971CDD19; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:40:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:42:55 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Gerard@smtp2.suscom.net, Seibert@smtp2.suscom.net In-Reply-To: <20050320172230.4141B16A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050320172230.4141B16A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <20050320134224.30F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="===[S/MIME_RFC2633]===423DC410.300D4DC==="; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg="sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.20.04 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at suscom.net cc: Robert Slade Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard-seibert@suscom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:43:03 -0000 --===[S/MIME_RFC2633]===423DC410.300D4DC=== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =1EOn Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris wrote: ||> ||>Robert Slade wrote: ||>> Hi all, ||>>=20 ||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail ||>> address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from ||>> Comcast users !! ||>>=20 ||>> Rob ||> ||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a Windows box ||>AND is infected. ||> ||>Shame on you ||> ||>--=20 ||>Best regards, ||>Chris ||> ||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. ********** Reply Separator ********** Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM 1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast 2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com 3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this forum and harvest email addresses. -- Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@suscom.net They say that a dog is man's best friend. I do not believe that. 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mail@myunix.net) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD5R2-0000oS-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:46:00 +0100 Received: from [84.151.205.159] (helo=[192.168.123.5]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DD5R1-0006st-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: <423DC4E2.4080601@myunix.net> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:45:54 +0100 From: Christian Tischler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423DB62A.8030807@myunix.net> <101669762.20050320193027@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <101669762.20050320193027@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f535121c9cfa857f5d09ee37b87180a6 Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:46:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Christian Tischler writes: > > > >>The server side should be managed by BSD, but the client side is most >>surely an heterogeneous group. >> >> > >The server side of what? It all depends on the complete architecture of >your IT infrastructure. For some situations, sendmail and qpopper are >all you'll ever need. For other situations, you'll end up buying racks >of servers running Exchange. > >However, from what you've said thus far, it doesn't sound like Exchange >would be the right choice. > > > >>So a solution to somehow emulate/simulate an exchange server on an box >>(or cluster of sql horde what ever servers), and import this e.g. >>calendar data into a BSD solution. As I understand the so far mentioned >>products, these are quite capable of doing so. Then there would be an >>easy solution to different likes in clients. >> >> > >Do they really need a calendar function? > >Remember, once you start building this sort of stuff, it rapidly gets >more and more complicated. You might end up at some point realizing >that it would have all been easier with Exchange. > >If you _must_ have functionality equivalent to Exchange, then run >Exchange. But if you don't need that functionality, run something >simpler. > >For what it's worth, even fancy Outlook clients can access standard >SMTP/POP servers. You can build a backend using only simple software, >and then consider something more complex only if and when users >absolutely demand it. If you are forced into implementing a very >complex solution, consider going to Exchange rather than trying to >cobble something together, or you might spend the next ten years trying >to get it all to work. > > > Just to point out what I need, and then you probably will understand why I started this in the first place. I need to synchronize peoples (in the beginning only a few) calenders. As they all use Outlook I wanted to keep things easy on them. As I really fancy FreeBSD, I started to look for a way to combine both "worlds"... Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:21:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D43016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7CC43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])3BCE21800130 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 303EA4BE6D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:43 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: "Vince Hoffman" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:21:43 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050320192144.303EA4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:21:44 -0000 Hello again! Your answers were a bit out of my league: > > here is my rc.conf so far. i'm not sure if it's working > > i haven't had a chance to reboot yet. > > > > please let me know what you think of it? > > > > # *** IPv6 configuration > > # > > ipv6_enable=3D"YES" > > ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" > > cloned_interfaces=3D"gif0" > > ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0" > > ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::" > > ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet 213.181.153.22 213.121.24.85" > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias1=3D"2001:618:400:33bb::1 prefixlen 64" > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias2=3D"2001:618:400:33bb::2 prefixlen 64" > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias3=3D"2001:618:400:33bb::3 prefixlen 64" > > ipv6_firewall_enable=3D"YES" > > ipv6_firewall_type=3D"open" > > rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" > > rtadvd_interfaces=3D"gif0" >=20 > You have nothing to specify the ipv6 part of the gif tunnel. should=20 > have 2 ipv6 addresses usualy on a /128. Could you please provide me with an example? > Your ipv6 default gateway is a fe80: address (link local.) Usualy=20 > it would be your next hop out onto the ipv6 internet (in my case=20 > the other side of the ipv6 part of the gif tunnel.) How should my gateway be? > You are advertising your machine as an ipv6 router but only on the=20 > gif interface, thus any ipv6 hosts you have on your network wont=20 > see the router advertisment packets and wont autoconfigure to the=20 > range you are advertising. My network interface connecting me to the Internet is lnc0. Should rtadvd be advertising it instead? > Hope you get it working, I'm no expert but it works for me :) Now now :) You seem to know your way. All the best, -- Fafa > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Vince > > To: "'Fafa Diliha Romanova'" , questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:53 -0000 > > > >> > >> Since you are using a gif interface I assume you use a tunnel for your= ipv6 > >> connection. > >> > >> Here is the relevant parts of my rc.conf which works > >> (I use a H.E. ipv6 tunnel (http://tunnelbroker.net) > >> but any gif tunnel should be similar) > >> > >> gif_interfaces=3D"gif0" # create the gif > >> gifconfig_gif0=3D"62.140.220.90 64.71.128.83" # setup the ipv4 endpoi= nts of > >> the tunnel > >> ipv6_enable=3D"YES" # Set to YES to set up for IPv6. > >> ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" > >> ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0 fxp0" # List of network interfaces (or > >> "auto"). > >> ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120" # Set to IPv6 default > >> gateway > >> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"2001:470:1F01:FFFF::121 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 > >> prefixlen 128" #setup ipv6 tunnel > >> ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0=3D"2001:470:1F01:244::1 prefixlen 64" #set fxp0 ipv6 > >> address > >> rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" # Set to YES to enable an IPv6 rout= er > >> rtadvd_interfaces=3D"fxp1 fxp0 wi0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA > >> packets. > >> > >> > >> Some lines may wrap. > >> Vince > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Fafa > >>> Diliha Romanova > >>> Sent: 13 March 2005 20:11 > >>> To: questions@freebsd.org > >>> Subject: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > >>> > >>> Hey! > >>> > >>> I am trying to add my entire IPv6 setup into rc.conf. > >>> But it seems it won't automagically create gif0, nor will it add > >>> the default route. This is my rc.conf: > >>> > >>> # *** IPv6 configuration > >>> # > >>> ipv6_enable=3D"YES" > >>> ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" > >>> ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"gif0" > >>> ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"fe80::%gif0" > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet 213.183.143.59 213.121.24.85" > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::1 prefixlen 64" > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::2 prefixlen 64" > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::3 prefixlen 64" > >>> ipv6_firewall_enable=3D"YES" > >>> ipv6_firewall_type=3D"open" > >>> rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" > >>> rtadvd_interfaces=3D"gif0" > >>> > >>> Is anybody able to tell what I lack? > >>> I certainly cannot ping6 6bone.net after reboot. > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> All the best, > >>> -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:30:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF8916A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5684043D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from superdaemon@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so766386wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:30:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GMh1vonWhGOPQL8bTAQ2JTyhnMFH4pCvpZuYRLuCwrZEX6zCbn6Zi/tRp/ffxZXOy66mJLGMdGbHh46TAo2zwSzVXSR9hUjPm9JmJNtxxm5hU7l7msjLrmp4ZbYQjiwCbmPNstEiw5lf6U9A7/yFosgpUdvmBQexwTizJHYGiuQ= Received: by 10.54.35.69 with SMTP id i69mr3343048wri; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.16.22 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:30:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:30:19 -0500 From: Super Daemon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FTPD and Internet Explorer 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Super Daemon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:21 -0000 I've been curious about this for a while. I have a freebsd 5.3 Release Server running FTPD. Users running MS WIndows can connect to it just find as long as they type in ftp://user@ipaddress. However, when they connect as ftp://ipaddress, the server thinks they are trying to connect anonymously. But i've noticed that this doesn't happen when running PROFTPD from the ports. Can anyone explain why this is??? Is there a way to connect as ftp://ipaddress and still get prompted for username and password under internet explorer 6.0??? I'm not on the list so please CC: me. Thanks in advance!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:30:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E62816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265DF43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])19E621800211 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 096334BE6D; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:30:47 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:30:47 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050320193048.096334BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Anybody using BTExact's IPv6 tunnel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:30:48 -0000 If you are, please show me your working setup :) Either in the form of rc.conf, or a custom shell script. Thank you, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:36:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9503516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD1643D54 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:36:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so753328rng for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:36:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SByP/yW2mO2SI8R86VkuZKg1JyKAZpM5V90NQgXNI6QPXWPx2wYFHi03Y8n93Xo+pjE6wYuq+OGTlreaZPWWvnJoIUSBRmkC1JACK4Ms0Dh7rg7QvGPVBkMPgU4U7mUe6bpTzGag4u7YyG+Zq4tq0ZoIOtZEnQhvqAJ7ckrbfQ4= Received: by 10.38.76.23 with SMTP id y23mr1202541rna; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:36:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e0503201136527a92a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:36:31 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Slow Performance with OpenBSD's PF on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:36:33 -0000 I recently setup a box with 5.3 release and enabled PF in order to do NAT and eventually firewalling and bandwidth control when I become more acustom to the workings of PF. Regardless of which however, I'm having tremendous speed issues with the box currently. Here is my pf.conf: ext_if="rl1" int_if="xl0" int_net="192.168.1.0/24" nat on $ext_if from $int_net to any -> $ext_if pass in all keep state pass out all keep state Here is my rc.conf: defaultrouter="63.135.xxx.xxx" gateway_enable="YES" hostname="ORCA.****" ifconfig_rl1="inet 63.135.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" linux_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" pf_enable="yes" pf_rules="/etc/pfrules.conf" pf_flags="" pflog_enable="YES" pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" pflog_flags="" -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:53:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71EC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dreadlock.phreakout.net (dreadlock.phreakout.net [208.51.56.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10DBB43D58 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ababurko@adelphia.net) Received: (qmail 2163 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2005 20:02:25 -0000 Received: from 24-52-224-96.kntnny.adelphia.net (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (24.52.224.96) by dreadlock.phreakout.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 20:02:25 -0000 Message-ID: <423DD4A1.1020509@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:53:05 -0500 From: Bob Ababurko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050320172230.4141B16A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> <20050320134224.30F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> In-Reply-To: <20050320134224.30F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:53:35 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris wrote: >||> >||>Robert Slade wrote: >||>> Hi all, >||>> >||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail >||>> address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from >||>> Comcast users !! >||>> >||>> Rob >||> >||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a Windows box >||>AND is infected. >||> >||>Shame on you >||> >||>-- >||>Best regards, >||>Chris >||> >||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. > > >********** Reply Separator ********** >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM > >1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast >2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com >3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this forum >and harvest email addresses. > >-- >Gerard Seibert >gerard-seibert@suscom.net > >They say that a dog is man's best friend. I do not believe that. How >many of your friends have you had neutered? > > It is most likely it is a windows box that has been copromised due to one of the slew of M$ vulnerabilities. Some crafty programmer has turned this box into a zombie and installed a mailing package or a proxy server and is sending mail from it in concert with thousands of others just like it...al behind one keyboard. -Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:54:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1AC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:54:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [62.140.220.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F3143D49 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:54:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from canth ([10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2KJt61d005231; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:55:06 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-Id: <200503201955.j2KJt61d005231@unsane.co.uk> From: "Vince" To: "'Fafa Diliha Romanova'" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:54:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20050320192144.303EA4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUtgiY2gi/9sYB1TPe//OFZDDitbwAACzdg cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:54:52 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Fafa Diliha Romanova > Sent: 20 March 2005 19:22 > To: Vince Hoffman > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > > > Hello again! > Hi, > Your answers were a bit out of my league: > Or badly worded ;) > > > here is my rc.conf so far. i'm not sure if it's working i haven't > > > had a chance to reboot yet. > > > > > > please let me know what you think of it? > > > > > > # *** IPv6 configuration > > > # > > > ipv6_enable="YES" > > > ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > > > cloned_interfaces="gif0" > > > ipv6_network_interfaces="gif0" > > > ipv6_defaultrouter="fe80::" > > > ifconfig_gif0="inet 213.181.153.22 213.121.24.85" > > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias1="2001:618:400:33bb::1 prefixlen 64" > > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias2="2001:618:400:33bb::2 prefixlen 64" > > > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0_alias3="2001:618:400:33bb::3 prefixlen 64" > > > ipv6_firewall_enable="YES" > > > ipv6_firewall_type="open" > > > rtadvd_enable="YES" > > > rtadvd_interfaces="gif0" > > > > You have nothing to specify the ipv6 part of the gif tunnel. should > > have 2 ipv6 addresses usualy on a /128. > > Could you please provide me with an example? Ok I had a headstart here as I had already used a gif s an ipv4 over ipv4 tunnel and the HE tunnelbroker page gives you a basic config (for every operating system you're likely to use anyway which includes FreeBSD.) I'll go through the steps of creating the tunnel and then translate them to rc.conf variables. 1) create the gif ifconfig gif0 create -- you have this with cloned_interfaces="gif0" 2) the command they give was slightly wrong you need ifconfig gif0 inet 62.140.220.90 64.71.128.83 -- again you have this as ifconfig_gif0="inet 213.181.153.22 213.121.24.85" 3) configure the ipv6 point to point tunnel ifconfig gif0 inet6 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::121 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 prefixlen 128 --- you are missing this command. I have ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::121 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 prefixlen 128 4) add you ipv6 default route (the far end of the tunnel makes sense) route -n add -inet6 default 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 In rc.conf ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120" > > > Your ipv6 default gateway is a fe80: address (link local.) > Usualy it > > would be your next hop out onto the ipv6 internet (in my case the > > other side of the ipv6 part of the gif tunnel.) > > How should my gateway be? > Your first hop out onto the ipv6 internet, as provided by your tunnel provider. > > You are advertising your machine as an ipv6 router but only > on the gif > > interface, thus any ipv6 hosts you have on your network > wont see the > > router advertisment packets and wont autoconfigure to the range you > > are advertising. > > My network interface connecting me to the Internet is lnc0. > Should rtadvd be advertising it instead? > Do you have any hosts that need to use rtadvd? (hosts on your network that are running rtsold/rtsol or equivalent? If not don't run it, if you do then run it on the interface those hosts are connected to. Good luck, Vince > > Hope you get it working, I'm no expert but it works for me :) > > Now now :) You seem to know your way. > > All the best, > -- Fafa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Vince > > > To: "'Fafa Diliha Romanova'" , > > > questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: RE: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:26:53 -0000 > > > > > >> > > >> Since you are using a gif interface I assume you use a > tunnel for > > >> your ipv6 connection. > > >> > > >> Here is the relevant parts of my rc.conf which works (I > use a H.E. > > >> ipv6 tunnel (http://tunnelbroker.net) but any gif tunnel > should be > > >> similar) > > >> > > >> gif_interfaces="gif0" # create the gif > > >> gifconfig_gif0="62.140.220.90 64.71.128.83" # setup the ipv4 > > >> endpoints of the tunnel > > >> ipv6_enable="YES" # Set to YES to set up for IPv6. > > >> ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > > >> ipv6_network_interfaces="gif0 fxp0" # List of network > interfaces > > >> (or "auto"). > > >> ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120" # Set to > IPv6 default > > >> gateway > > >> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="2001:470:1F01:FFFF::121 > 2001:470:1F01:FFFF::120 > > >> prefixlen 128" #setup ipv6 tunnel > > >> ipv6_ifconfig_fxp0="2001:470:1F01:244::1 prefixlen 64" #set fxp0 > > >> ipv6 address > > >> rtadvd_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable > an IPv6 router > > >> rtadvd_interfaces="fxp1 fxp0 wi0" # Interfaces > rtadvd sends RA > > >> packets. > > >> > > >> > > >> Some lines may wrap. > > >> Vince > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Fafa > > >>> Diliha Romanova > > >>> Sent: 13 March 2005 20:11 > > >>> To: questions@freebsd.org > > >>> Subject: IPv6 in rc.conf only: create gif0 / add route? > > >>> > > >>> Hey! > > >>> > > >>> I am trying to add my entire IPv6 setup into rc.conf. > > >>> But it seems it won't automagically create gif0, nor > will it add > > >>> the default route. This is my rc.conf: > > >>> > > >>> # *** IPv6 configuration > > >>> # > > >>> ipv6_enable="YES" > > >>> ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > > >>> ipv6_network_interfaces="gif0" > > >>> ipv6_defaultrouter="fe80::%gif0" > > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet 213.183.143.59 213.121.24.85" > > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::1 > prefixlen 64" > > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::2 > prefixlen 64" > > >>> ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="inet6 alias 2001:618:400:4572::3 > prefixlen 64" > > >>> ipv6_firewall_enable="YES" > > >>> ipv6_firewall_type="open" > > >>> rtadvd_enable="YES" > > >>> rtadvd_interfaces="gif0" > > >>> > > >>> Is anybody able to tell what I lack? > > >>> I certainly cannot ping6 6bone.net after reboot. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks! > > >>> > > >>> All the best, > > >>> -- Fafa > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 19:56:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0072516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:56:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD9043D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:56:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tbonius@comcast.net) Received: from ostros (c-24-18-102-54.client.comcast.net[24.18.102.54]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005032019561101100sr72ee>; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:56:11 +0000 Message-ID: <006101c52d86$e8265120$4300a8c0@home.lan> From: "Thomas Foster" To: "Tomas Quintero" , References: <9e46c99e0503201136527a92a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: Slow Performance with OpenBSD's PF on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:56:13 -0000 I think more information might be required than just your conf files. What slow performance are you seeing? Are internal LAN clients having issues with using this computer as a firewall/router? Are you running an internal DNS? DHCPd? Just a start.. T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomas Quintero" To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: Slow Performance with OpenBSD's PF on 5.3-RELEASE >I recently setup a box with 5.3 release and enabled PF in order to do > NAT and eventually firewalling and bandwidth control when I become > more acustom to the workings of PF. Regardless of which however, I'm > having tremendous speed issues with the box currently. > > Here is my pf.conf: > ext_if="rl1" > int_if="xl0" > int_net="192.168.1.0/24" > nat on $ext_if from $int_net to any -> $ext_if > > pass in all keep state > pass out all keep state > > Here is my rc.conf: > defaultrouter="63.135.xxx.xxx" > gateway_enable="YES" > hostname="ORCA.****" > ifconfig_rl1="inet 63.135.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.240" > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > linux_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > pf_enable="yes" > pf_rules="/etc/pfrules.conf" > pf_flags="" > pflog_enable="YES" > pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" > pflog_flags="" > > > -- > -Tomas Quintero > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:00:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB7916A4D0 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nuumen.pair.com (nuumen.pair.com [209.68.1.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E063F43D7D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:00:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thuppi@nuumen.pair.com) Received: (qmail 28219 invoked by uid 55300); 20 Mar 2005 20:00:53 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:00:53 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Huppi X-X-Sender: thuppi@nuumen.pair.com To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: amd /home & /usr/home mounts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:00:55 -0000 I've got 'amd' starting with -F /etc/amd.conf from /etc/rc.conf: -------- amd_enable="YES" # Run amd service with $amd_flags amd_flags="-F /etc/amd.conf" amd_map_program="NO" # Can be set to "ypcat... -------- and my /etc/amd.conf file has, amoung other things...: # ---------- # Define an amd mount point. [ /home ] map_type = file # Specify filename containg actual map. map_name = auto.amd # Specify that we want the directory to be padded out or not. browsable_dirs = no --------------- My /etc/auto.amd has no entry for 'foo_local'. It only includes those users who have home dirs on a filer. What I want is that only '/home/usr_in_map' is automounted, _not_ '/usr/home/foo_local', but that's what's happening for a user called 'foo_local' who's entry is at the bottom of my passwd file (since he's got the highest UID.) The auto.amd map shows no entry for this user obviously. My question is, is this behaviour basically a bug, built in but not well documented behaviour, or is there something I'm not aware of whereby I'm instructing amd to also handle '/usr/home' in adition to '/home'? (Like order in the pwf, for instance?) BTW, my /etc/nsswitch.conf is stock: ... passwd: compat passwd_compat: nis ... FWIW, I've got a workaround by making the local user's home dir be in '/usr/local/home', but it doesn't seem like I should have to do this, and it seems to aurgue against pwf order issues being the cause of what I'm seeing. Thanks, - Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:08:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8556743D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:08:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDO005FR2MQLE40@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:08:51 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 659272CE749; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:08:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:08:49 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <423DD4A1.1020509@adelphia.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503201208.50120.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050320172230.4141B16A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> <423DD4A1.1020509@adelphia.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:08:52 -0000 On Sunday 20 March 2005 11:53 am, Bob Ababurko wrote: > Gerard Seibert wrote: > >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris wrote: > >||>Robert Slade wrote: > >||>> Hi all, > >||>> > >||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this > >||>> e-mail address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails > >||>> where from Comcast users !! > >||>> > >||>> Rob > >||> > >||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a > >||> Windows box AND is infected. > >||> > >||>Shame on you > >||> > >||>-- > >||>Best regards, > >||>Chris > >||> > >||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. > > > >********** Reply Separator ********** > >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM > > > >1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast > >2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com > >3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this > > forum and harvest email addresses. > > > >-- > >Gerard Seibert > >gerard-seibert@suscom.net > > > >They say that a dog is man's best friend. I do not believe that. How > >many of your friends have you had neutered? > > It is most likely it is a windows box that has been copromised due to > one of the slew of M$ vulnerabilities. Some crafty programmer has > turned this box into a zombie and installed a mailing package or a > proxy server and is sending mail from it in concert with thousands of > others just like it...al behind one keyboard. > > -Bob Just to be fair towards the OS used by common folk, a few months ago I set up a gateway machine with FreeBSD 4.11 and made the mistake of running it on my DSL line without first setting up a firewall, shutting off sendmail and unused ports. (due to lazyness impatience on my part) It took only a few hours for someone to find the open relay and use it! I didn't even know until Verizon sent me an email saying I was a bad boy and they were shutting off my email access for 24 hours, which they did! Bottom line is it can happen to anyone. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:25:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D8016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arcadia.unit.liu.se (arcadia.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4E43D41 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:24:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfma629@student.liu.se) Received: by arcadia.unit.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 102) id 17C2145DDC; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:24:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from liu.se (camelot.unit.liu.se [130.236.230.139]) by arcadia.unit.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0687E45E0F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:24:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from [81.94.82.239] by mu.unit.liu.se (mshttpd); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:24:51 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <974f60973ec0.973ec0974f60@liu.se> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:24:51 +0100 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2-liu_20050119_1740 (2004-11-16) on themis.unit.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, LIU_FROM_MATCHES_LIUSTUDENT,LIU_MAILTO_TO_LIUSTUDENT autolearn=ham version=3.0.2-liu_20050119_1740 Subject: Re: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:25:00 -0000 I made the modifications suggested, but I still get the same error message. Note the following part: ... while talking to smtp.liu.se.: >>> DATA <<< 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully- qualified address I'm guessing the problem is that "obygden" isn't a fully-qualified address, since it's only visible on the local network (that is, you can't do a DNS lookup on it from systems not connected to the network). What I don't know is how to find out what my fully-qualified address is, provided I have one (my understanding of DNS is still somewhat patchy). And, if I do know my fully-qualified hostname, how do I make sendmail use it instead of "obygden" when talking to the SMTP server? ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Fuchs Date: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:47 pm Subject: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > > > I'm trying to set up sendmail to route outgoing mail to an > external SMTP server. I need this for Mutt, which doesn't have its > own means of transfering mail and relies on whatever MTA the system > provides. I found out about sendmail's SMARTHOST capability and > added this line to my .mc configuration file (built by 'cd > /etc/mail && make && make install'): > > > > define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.liu.se') > > Hi, > > the FEATURE has to be: > > define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.liu.se]')dnl > > Optional you can use the authinfo-file feature: > > FEATURE(`authinfo')dnl > > If so create a file /etc/mail/authinfo wiht something like this: > > AuthInfo:smtp.liu.se "U:yourusername" "P:yourpassword" > > Go to /etc/mail and run as root: > makemap hash authinfo < authinfo > chmod 600 authinfo authinfo.db > > Oliver > > > > > > I then installed the changes with 'make && make install && make > restart'. Now, whenever I try to send mail from Mutt, I get back > the following failure notice: > > > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > To: > > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > > > [-- Bilaga #1 --] > > [-- Typ: text/plain, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,5K --] > > > > The original message was received at Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 > +0100 (CET) > > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need > fully-qualified address) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... while talking to smtp.liu.se.: > > >>> DATA > > <<< 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully- > qualified address > > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable > > <<< 554 Error: no valid recipients > > > > [-- Bilaga #2 --] > > [-- Typ: message/delivery-status, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,4K --] > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; obygden > > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost > > Arrival-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; ulfma629@student.liu.se > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.5.4 > > Remote-MTA: DNS; smtp.liu.se > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 504 : Sender address > rejected: need > > +fully-qualified address > > Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > > > > [-- Bilaga #3 --] > > [-- Typ: message/rfc822, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,7K --] > > > > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 > > From: Ulf Magnusson > > To: ulfma629@student.liu.se > > Subject: test > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i > > > > test > > > > > > any ideas? Please be aware that I'm totally new to sendmail when > replying :) > > -- > ... don't touch the bang bang fruit > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:27:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DAB16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3F943D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153])j2KKRGWR017480; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KKREt5003779; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0e4314b2c521834b8dc23ba5faafccfa@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:27:13 -0500 To: Adam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:27:23 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Adam wrote: >> Do you claim to speak for Adaptec? Your words are dangerously >> ill-chosen if you do not work for Adaptec, because you are misleading >> people about the company and about their products. > > Quit being such a corporate apologist. They refuse to give out the > info > required to use their hardware. That prevents people from using it. > So > they obviously don't want people to buy their hardware. This... [ ... ] > And adults learn that businesses like money, and showing businesses how > they will lose money by making certain decisions can effect those > decisions. > Maybe you should take some more time to understand what is actually > happening > instead of making snide remarks about what you wrongly percieve is > happening. ...and this contradict each other. Pretend for a second that your first claim is actually correct, that Adaptec does not want to sell hardware. Just what do you think you are accomplishing by trying to convince people not to buy Adaptec hardware, then? According to your words, that's exactly what Adaptec wants. If you want to draw valid conclusions, you need to start with valid premises. More precisely, if you assert A implies B, and A is shown to be false, you have demonstrated absolutely nothing about B. Of course, before you get to the point of being able to derive inferential conclusions using first-order logic, you need to be coherent enough to put together an argument which does not claim that A and not A are true at the same time. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:28:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EB916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:28:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE47343D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:28:06 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=VoNTsl1F=R6=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2KKS5QZ069191 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:28:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200503202028.j2KKS5Us069180@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:28:05 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: 4jQT8+DgTlHnYd54l1dRZCAtOGDvFepIQYELnHwuvtE4nIJfPRmwrtCC09PH+outqJXoPTUpG/2ePXkpAFUP8A== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQj3c1TFqW1BleBN9AQE4nQgAg8loTW1PH1ZbFIJvzfJHJa3JIDGOrX0e Jx7fp3P5tW0eNFWdEhnk8aww0O8sg3OEhZSsowFGt/UODL0bz4KyS51oR96cL3e7 FJcwtfmBGWQybSDFpJ4ezHxphBImnfrfPZSnAE/TpKYg/bwH1UMnFu7/JCm/PF+2 LUG0ZmQkHVFVmOhlLVtRWTTGV2A1E+kW9BH23ehoXq7xeJ52uQc10zMX90TNbK4C IJE2SekssIvSfbuCiw4rM7WyO/T4H6xiXbD4zOP+pNYq7JAr+j7ycW3oHC/fDVsz PqXGUu9ZQ/CQPjjKltrBB/rTHbpaI1SpRzTRU8iKyneaVQClAVVGRw== =JPj9 Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:28:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Charles Swiger > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 17:18 > To: Adam > Cc: misc@openbsd.org; freebsd list; Theo de Raadt > Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support > > > I'd bet a dollar to a donut that LSI, Promise, 3ware, and other > vendors of RAID hardware also have NDA agreements which would prevent > those companies from making every single internal document available > to the public. Nobody ever asked they make 'every single internal document available to the public'. That is your own strawman. People do ask, however, that Adaptec makes enough documentation available to know when what commands to set to the chipset, and when to expect what to be returned. Especially if they themselves have not solved all bugs > Let's pretend you're right, just for the sake of argument. > Let's say that Adaptec could release all of their docs. Same deal; nobody ever asked they release 'all of their docs'. That is just your own twist. > Besides, I'm quite sure you're wrong: Adaptec wants me and other > potential customers to buy their products, just as any other hardware > vendor would. In that case, Adaptec better get their act together. But I can assure you, and your Adaptec buddies, that, having followed this crazy discussion for too long, that I will never ever hereafter advise my boss to buy Adaptec any more. Not that they will feel the pinch, as I am just a small fish; but their attitude stinks up to high heaven. And yours too, I might add. > Children learn to accept "no" in the process of growing up. News-flash: sometimes the customer says 'no' too; I hope they are grown-up enough to deal with that reality, too. :) > They learn > to deal with the world not giving them anything and everything the > child might demand, the moment it is demanded. And if you want children to play with your toys, then you should tell them how they work! Otherwise, pretty soon you'll be sitting there all alone, with your big box of hardware, and all kids shunning you like the plague. - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:40:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3734916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:40:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A883C43D53 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so823659rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kurEf8CRF0AUmbCDb80wieoHJzaubCikRkMU10t8HYe/HrOfd3i/QXImyZcJCoGjZYXEuzfkEOU+Cd5fB26N/YH4DwXjP8aTgLGNHyriBAhH180Hf7tot3Zu/2mHX5Yysn+wVybLw6Dhk1yHu03fLbIxm5q4OjoI2dbp4g5Q2TM= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr4062649rnj; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e05032012402eb9f843@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:40:04 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e050320123932117564@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9e46c99e0503201136527a92a2@mail.gmail.com> <006101c52d86$e8265120$4300a8c0@home.lan> <9e46c99e050320123932117564@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Slow Performance with OpenBSD's PF on 5.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:40:05 -0000 I wasn't quite sure where to start, so I just gave conf lines. The machine is not yet running DNS, DHCPd, etc. however once I have this ironed out I do intend to setup caching DNS and DHCPd. The problem seems to be with Internal LAN clients getting extremely slow speeds. Web pages load extremely slow, if at all. Externally, when I am fetching etc. to determine what speeds the actual machine is getting, it starts off slow then accelerates to 250-300KB/s, which it should be getting. On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:56:16 -0800, Thomas Foster wrote: > I think more information might be required than just your conf files. What > slow performance are you seeing? Are internal LAN clients having issues > with using this computer as a firewall/router? Are you running an internal > DNS? DHCPd? > > Just a start.. > > T > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tomas Quintero" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:36 AM > Subject: Slow Performance with OpenBSD's PF on 5.3-RELEASE > > >I recently setup a box with 5.3 release and enabled PF in order to do > > NAT and eventually firewalling and bandwidth control when I become > > more acustom to the workings of PF. Regardless of which however, I'm > > having tremendous speed issues with the box currently. > > > > Here is my pf.conf: > > ext_if="rl1" > > int_if="xl0" > > int_net="192.168.1.0/24" > > nat on $ext_if from $int_net to any -> $ext_if > > > > pass in all keep state > > pass out all keep state > > > > Here is my rc.conf: > > defaultrouter="63.135.xxx.xxx" > > gateway_enable="YES" > > hostname="ORCA.****" > > ifconfig_rl1="inet 63.135.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.240" > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > linux_enable="YES" > > sshd_enable="YES" > > usbd_enable="YES" > > pf_enable="yes" > > pf_rules="/etc/pfrules.conf" > > pf_flags="" > > pflog_enable="YES" > > pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" > > pflog_flags="" > > > > > > -- > > -Tomas Quintero > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- -Tomas Quintero -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:50:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CE616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:50:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7023243D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:50:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2KKnvHe082428; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:49:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id j2KKnvCq082425; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:49:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:49:57 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050320132153.J82328@wonkity.com> References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:49:57 -0700 (MST) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:50:01 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Christopher Nehren wrote: > On 2005-03-20, Warren Block scribbled these > curious markings: >> If you have your own mailserver, most of this can be rejected by using >> greylisting or by rejecting mail from dynamic Comcast IP addresses, >> while still allowing mail coming from Comcast's mail servers. > > Which is completely and totally unfair to those of us who *can* control > our networks and who are more than likely being blamed for things that > we aren't even doing (i.e. machines not on Comcast's network forging > headers). Spam from genuine Comcast dynamic IP addresses is a serious problem. If someone needs to receive email from Comcast dynamic addresses, greylisting has no more serious effect than delaying it by half an hour. And the mailservers that Comcast provides for dynamic IP users can be whitelisted, so for users who smarthost through those servers there will be no delay or inconvenience at all. (FreeBSD relevant: /usr/ports/mail/milter-greylist) > DNS blacklisting is one of the most unfair methods of stopping > spam. This is quite a jump from greylisting. I was thinking more of looking up the Comcast listings from blackholes.us and then adding them to /etc/mail/access. It depends on the severity of the problem. > It's a real pain in the neck for me to edit my Postfix > configuration every time some pissy netadmin decides to blacklist a > whole netblock because of one or two (ignorant) miscreants. What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not just smarthost through their servers? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 20:57:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:57:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE4043D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2KKvAOW333748 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:57:15 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 116C919FCB3; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:03:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D699519FCAE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:03:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:03:04 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:57:17 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Duo writes: > >> And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid it by >> answering it. > > I did answer it. I asked for a product that provides ALL the features > of Exchange. And he surely knows what all of the features of Exchange > are, otherwise he could not say with confidence that other UNIX products > provide them. No, you didnt. He asked you *directly* what features we are talking about. you launched into a diatribe. Once again, you cop out by assuming he "surely" knows all of the features. Stop avoiding, go back to the original mail, and answer the question. > >> As for looking for non microsoft solutions, yes. There is a point to >> that. It's called voting with your pocketbook, and its a valid course >> of action in a capitalist society. Choosing to go outside a monopoly >> is a right. > > So you never buy Intel microprocessors, and you never buy anything with > a zipper? (Remember, YKK has a virtual world monopoly on zippers.) I also do not go to Major League Baseball games, what's your point? We are talking software here, your diversionary attempt will not work with me, mon amie. > >> And yes, looking for non MS solutions, for the sake of it, is a valid >> choice. > > Not for many corporate managers. They don't care whether it's Microsoft > or not, as long as it's the best tool for the job. People don't usually > reach the upper levels of management in large corporations by indulging > emotional attachments to one vendor or another. > To extrapolate your mickey mouse attempt at diversion, lets use how you would respond to this: YOU KNOW EVERY SINGLE CORPORATE MANAGER IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD? Who's talking emotion? Nobody mentioned feelings here but you. Bottom line is, other competitive software dosent get better, without a user base to use, offer feedback, etc. >> It's the only way some things get better. > > If you had been using Microsoft Mail (or its inferior predecessor, > Network Courrier, which Microsoft bought, modified, and marketed as > Microsoft Mail), you could have gone to Exchange and things would have > gotten a lot better ... without ever leaving Microsoft. > And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly stagnant. >> If for instance, I go with a product of MS, as opposed to a smaller >> OSS project, the OSS Project typically *cares* about the feedback I >> give it. It cares about the features I want and need. > > So does Microsoft. That's how it stays on top. > > It's all a bit amusing, since I remember when Microsoft was the underdog > and the Great Satan was IBM or DEC. The names change, but the game > remains the same, and the flying accusations are just as baseless today > as they were back then. > > It's a pity that no discussion of software can be carried out these days > without degenerating into religious jihads against Microsoft. > >> I need a credit card before MS will talk to me. > > You need a stroke of good luck before someone working on open source > will talk to you. > Heh. With that statement, I have to question why you are even on this list. You are here, talking with people who work open source, shilling a M$ product. You have some balls. > I'm still waiting for solutions to my SATA and SCSI problems. > >> The Exchange solution might be best for a gold partner with M$, but >> overall, a very poor solution, which locks you into a feature set, and >> a company that has shown little concern for its base of customers. > > The success of the product would seem to belie your claim. A lot of > organizations and users really like Exchange. > So, because cockroaches are more successful, are they above humans? >> In regards to its use of JET, Jet2003 cannot handle any other process >> running against its datastore, because it dosent have the ability to cache >> and then commit like a REAL RDBMS. > > There's only one process running against the database in Exchange. > > I have yet to see anything on microcomputers that I'd call a real DBMS, > but perhaps someone out there is coming close. Eventually they'll > reinvent what mainframe programmers knew thirty-five years ago. This is such a non answer, you are about 3 steps away from the ole killfile. > >> This is a problem for things such as virus scanning, and tight >> integration with an AD Environment, which is getting more and more >> replication based. In fact, some types of virus scanning can introduce >> data corruption of the store, which could lead to other issues. > > Step number one in any Exchange database failure is to turn off and > deinstall all the antivirus junk running against it. > heh. you amuse me sir. > I'd tend to prefer to put antivirus stuff on the client, not on the > server. Some users may not want their e-mail scanned for viruses. > Power users, in particular, may not want any virus protections at all, > since they know not to click on attachments and antivirus software all > too often hashes the very system it's supposed to protect. > >> What's more, the virus scanners that do run against Exchange's DB, >> also cost money, and typically require some more hardware. And >> overhead. So now I am running exchange, and a bevy of other stuff to >> prop it up. > > You don't have to run virus scanners. > I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon virus scans mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly infect their system. >> The whole point of UNIX, and Open Source is a number of people, getting >> together and saying..."It shouldnt have to be that hard" > > Or a number of people drifting apart and saying "I'm tired of working on > this." Or a number of people saying, "Look, I'm not paid for this, if > you have a problem with it, get the source and fix it yourself." Ahhh,so you are a troll. > MS has had YEARS to put a SQL backend onto Exchange, yet have not. > > That was a deliberate choice on the part of MS, mainly because they were > worried about performance and about flexibility. I've always felt that > it might not have been a very good decision, but there you have it. > > Then again, I'm not sure that _any_ kind of database is really a good > idea in a messaging system. You really don't need a full database for > e-mail. Wow, amazing, you can concede one thing. You are a remarkable troll. > >> With its history, and its track record, and indeed, with even most >> recommending a dry SMTP server outside of the regular exchange server, >> exchange is hardly a worthwhile solution. With the number of machines >> you need to run Exchange properly, (basically, 2-3) with freeBSD, I >> can do *alot* more. > > Real-world installations demonstrate that Exchange is indeed a very > worthwhile solution for many large organizations. The rich feature set > it provides more than compensates for its shortcomings, in the eyes of > these organizations. YOU KNOW OF THE SERVICE RECORD OF EVERY SINGLE EXCHANGE INSTALLATION? WOW. YOU MUST BE AN IT GOD. Or a really impressive troll. Which I am pretty convinced on. >> Not quite the "same" featureset as Exchange, but, I am supporting >> developers who *care* about what I want. > > Microsoft cares, too, and many changes and features in Exchange were > driven by customer demand. Companies that don't care go out of > business. > This is such a foolish statement, I cant even find the words. > Open-source developers tend to care about doing stuff that's fun, and > ignoring stuff that isn't. So if the features you want are fun to > write, you'll get them; otherwise you won't. > >> I am voting with my pocketbook ... > > How much are you paying the open-source developers? > Nothing. And, you know what? I get more than I paid for. I use CensorNet, a free proxy web cache package. FREE, is it perfect? no, but its getting there. I use both mdaemon, and postfix. Are they perfect? No, but they are getting there. Point is, at least I am supporting their work, instead of a company that has shown itself to be a most reprehensible player in the standards field. >> ... and, its highly arrogant of you to sit there and thinly accuse >> people of not doing right by their situation by not choosing M$ >> because they dont want to use MS. > > I think it is professionally irresponsible to let one's emotions drive > one's choice of vendor or product--particularly when one is being paid > to make recommendations on these. If one can't choose the best tool for > the job with a cool and objective head, it may be wise to move to > another career that one doesn't take so personally. I also think its entirely reprehensible to troll a list, shill for microsoft, and then attempt to make the people who do work on OSS out to be lazy, self centered nitwits who just work on "fun" stuff. I seriously doubt your credentials as any kind of professional, and I postulate it is you, who is emotional, as you have been the one displaying evasive behavior, as well as spreading divisive troll dust all over the place with your half baked assessments. >> Funny, then you are one of 5 people I know of, who claim to have no >> problem. > > I'm one of the people who knew what he was doing. > So, by virtue, its impossible for someone to have a bad experience, or give a bad technical reason to not run exchange. Because, they wont feel that way if they "know what they are doing". You are an arrogant shill. How sad. Please, spare me. Welcome to the killfile, troll. You are the most uncouth, evasive, unprofessional troll I have seen on this list. One wonders why you are even on it, as you take every chance you get to try to stomp on people who actually work to improve open souce. *plonk* -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:01:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8881116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A62843D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:01:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.nossin@student.tue.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210EE801227A; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:01:19 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: "'Martin Schweizer'" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:01:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcUtd57jdc/7358YR0mxzLmZSG3VagAGDtZg In-Reply-To: <20050320180903.GA82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Message-Id: <20050320210119.210EE801227A@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:01:35 -0000 I did. My version ports tree was just a week old.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > To: Freek Nossin > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process >=20 > Hello Freek >=20 > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). = X-Version? > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? >=20 > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not = even > as > > root with > > > > #kill -9 > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling list, = but > I > > could not find a solution. > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042264. > > html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042162. > > html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042222. > > html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042204. > > html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042488. > > html > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > November/042156. > > html > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > Freek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > -- >=20 > Regards > Gruss > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen >=20 > Martin Schweizer > >=20 > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; = http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:11:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5366B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:11:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D074743D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:11:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0153F60DB; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74824-09; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:11:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE060D8; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:11:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423DE724.4080101@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:12:04 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Duo References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:11:57 -0000 Duo wrote: > Please, spare me. Welcome to the killfile, troll. You are the most > uncouth, evasive, unprofessional troll I have seen on this list. One > wonders why you are even on it, as you take every chance you get to try > to stomp on people who actually work to improve open souce. > > *plonk* > > -- > Duo Easy mate - this guy does this and has a history of spewing from both ends. It aint worth it. For that matter, it's not worth it to have this continue in the list. Just ignore it - it may go away. -- Best regards, Chris A fool and his money soon go partying. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:17:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B354816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:17:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C30C43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:17:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153])j2KLHT1V025608; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KLHRrO016008; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:17:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200503202028.j2KKS5Us069180@asarian-host.net> References: <200503202028.j2KKS5Us069180@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <05e1259c5522c81f3d865c59f31b8a10@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:26 -0500 To: Mark X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions Questions' Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:17:40 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Mark wrote: >> I'd bet a dollar to a donut that LSI, Promise, 3ware, and other >> vendors of RAID hardware also have NDA agreements which would prevent >> those companies from making every single internal document available >> to the public. > > > > Nobody ever asked they make 'every single internal document available > to > the public'. That is your own strawman. People do ask, however, that > Adaptec makes enough documentation available to know when what commands > to set to the chipset, and when to expect what to be returned. > Especially if > they themselves have not solved all bugs I didn't create a strawman argument, you can go read what what was said yourself. Please refer to this exchange between Theo and Scott in Message-id: <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org>, which ended with: "No, I can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always been happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc." Why is it that Scott cannot release the docs being referred to here? I'll give you a hint: what is a three-letter word which limits an employee from releasing information proprietary to his current or former employer? Theo demanded information from Adaptec and from Scott. He got told no. [ At least Theo seems to understand the situation, or to use his own words: "Noone thought to talk to you. You are, I am sure, under a non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would therefore not give us documentation. We are quite used to FreeBSD and Linux people signing NDA's by now...." ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:29:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:29:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCCB43D4C for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from nedsbsd.cox.net ([68.13.119.137]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050320212915.GTLS2476.lakermmtao12.cox.net@nedsbsd.cox.net> for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:29:15 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:31:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503201531.18590.ned.woody@cox.net> Subject: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:29:17 -0000 I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then I've had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will sometimes freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." or I'll lose contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the web. From an earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will let the system finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my ISP by running "/etc/netstart" as root. Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later I'll lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a pattern to the disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again everything works again. It can be hours before I the lose the connection or sometimes I'll lose the connection again within twenty minutes. I've searched for a permanent fix by looking throught this forum. But I havn't found anything yet. Though that might be because I don't quite know how to search! :-) I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you, Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:30:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F20716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBF643D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:30:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from augusto.cesar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so510611wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KvPVpQM51gmFlEjERjbo0by69FN001Isw1v8ApZVltya1rlE0ktEZmyKuC97ml70aDD/aXmNhqi35grYqfOg/+aTOosMD9fr51QcZi/S75ZR9wFblcx3ntO0QlK0M70IcqRkyBe3CQY0aQpMFyVN8HtOefAX6MfxWELd97gBgdE= Received: by 10.54.45.41 with SMTP id s41mr2447161wrs; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.95.54.2? ([200.103.121.71]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d16sm979195wra.2005.03.20.13.29.59; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:30:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423DEB5B.3090506@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:03 -0300 From: Augusto Cesar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Invalid Gateway IPv4 Address Specified X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:30:01 -0000 Hi, i'm installing FreeBSD on my desktop, almost everything went fine, except when i try to setup my connection. The scenario: a static-ip, a direct connection to a router (which i do NOT have ANY control over it) and a outside DNS server. When trying to enter the gateway ip (10.0.0.9) through sysinstall, a box appears on the screen: Invalid Gateway IPv4 Address Specified. And that's it. Therefore i've tried including defaultrouter="10.0.0.9" in /etc/rc.conf, and restarted net, my computer still excluded from outside world. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:32:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:32:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aries.siriushosting.com (aries.siriushosting.com [69.90.216.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7698243D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:32:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suck@my-balls.com) Received: from localhost.worldwithoutwire.com (CPE00105a1ca6aa-CM00111a59be16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.197.92.181]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KLWFTJ018148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:32:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:31:41 -0500 To: "Charles Swiger" References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> <0e4314b2c521834b8dc23ba5faafccfa@mac.com> From: Adam Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0e4314b2c521834b8dc23ba5faafccfa@mac.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54u1 (OpenBSD, build 892) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:32:24 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:27:13 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > Pretend for a second that your first claim is actually correct, that > Adaptec does not want to sell hardware. Just what do you think you are > accomplishing by trying to convince people not to buy Adaptec hardware, > then? According to your words, that's exactly what Adaptec wants. Your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. Nobody is trying to convince people not to buy adaptec hardware. Adaptec has convinced people themselves. Those people are just informing Adaptec of that fact. Why are you so desperate to try to stop other people's efforts to obtain information? Nobody is asking you to do anything. You are free to use whatever you want. Just stop spreading lies and misinformation about other people's efforts that you clearly don't understand. Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:42:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD8116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:42:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D42D743D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:42:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jknight4@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 76789 invoked by uid 0); 20 Mar 2005 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.9) by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 20 Mar 2005 21:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (168.103.183.33) by mpls-pop-09.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2005 21:42:04 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <423DEE2B.2010103@qwest.net> From: "John Knight" To: "Mark Keating" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200503200240171.SM01132@MERCURY> In-Reply-To: <200503200240171.SM01132@MERCURY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'Tobias Weingartner' cc: 'Sean Hafeez' cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:42:05 -0000 Mark Keating wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] >>On Behalf Of Tobias Weingartner >>Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:54 PM >>To: Sean Hafeez >>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; misc@cvs.openbsd.org; >>weingart@tepid.org >>Subject: Re: aac support >> >>On Saturday, March 19, Sean Hafeez wrote: >> >> >>>There has got to be a better way to work with the vendors >>> >>> >>in order to >> >> >>>get the support we need. It just seem to me that the "screw >>> >>> >>you guys, >> >> >>>I am going home" stuff just does not work. >>> >>> >>Other approaches have been tried. Extensively, and for a long time. >>If you know of an approach that works, please demonstrate. >>At this point, I believe that the community would welcome >>someone that is going to step up, and have adaptec supply the >>documentation because they negotiated it out of them. Words >>here are cheap... but at the current time, they are the only >>thing we really have left. The voice of the community. >> >> >> >> >>>The vendors need a business >>>case in order to do things - they are in business to make >>> >>> >>money and I >> >> >>>can agree with that. >>> >>> >>They have a business case. More than one. 1800+ cards is >>not a business case? The points I brought up are not a >>business case? The bad press and such are not a business >>case? Give me a break. >> >> >>--Toby. >> >> >> >I work for one of these vendors. I know the release of documentation on one >of the RAID controllers this company shipped for several years was not based >on logic, let alone a $ amount. The decision was left to a single manager >who waffled back and forth about whether the information should be released. >The engineer who was pushing for the docs to be available eventually >published them on a web site, indicating his company email address as a >point of contact. It was a gutsy, yet arbitrary decision on his part that >led to the opening of docs. After the release of the docs, the company >started publishing their 'friedliness' to OSS. > >My experience tells me the only way to get the attention of people in a >large company like Adaptec is to take drastic measures. If this means >emailing people who can affect change until they are sufficiently annoyed to >make a decision one way or another, so be it. It is most likely one of the >few methods that will work. There is most likely a single person who will >make the decision and it may boil down to whether they are having a good day >or not. If their response is 'no', it will be stated that this is due to >'contractual obligations', 'intellectual property', 'on the advice of our >lawyers..' or some other rubbish. > >As a user of OpenBSD, I am glad to see this stance taken (again). The >people I admire in life are the people that stand up for their principles >and are true to themselves and their beliefs. The people I despise are >those that gladly sacrifice their stated beliefs to increase their wealth or >comfort. > >OpenBSD does not support all of the hw I use. This is due to some of the hw >being 'closed'. Some of it is not supported because the developers have not >had enough interest in writing the driver. I did what I could by providing >hw to some of the developers in the hope that it will be supported one day. >Some of this hw is made by the company I work for, but it had to be provided >out of my pocket because the company is too short sighted to see the benefit >of providing hw to the OpenBSD team. They do freely use OpenSSH in a number >of products however... > >It is unpopular these days to speak directly on issues. In my lowly >opinion, Theo can be abrasive at times and I do not always agree with him. >He seems to be morally and intellectually honest, and this is rare. The >operating system he and the rest of the developers have given to us is true >to their stated goals and has served me very well. For all of these >reasons, I stand behind the OpenBSD team and will add Adaptec to the list of >vendors I will not use or recommend (Intel, Broadcom, etc). > >mark > > > > > > I just wanted to echo your assertion that the decision to release documentation is often arbitrary, and almost always misinformed on the part of the decision maker(s). Recently, I've been involved in an off list conversation with Theo largely on this issue. Off list only because I needed to introduce myself to him, and didn't want to bore the world with personal details. However, a little on list boring might be useful at this point. I'm heavily involved with digital intellectual property but I'm also a programmer. As a result, I can usually understand and speak the various languages with the various parties in such a way they can actually understand what each party is concerned with. I've found that surprisingly the various groups controlling access to technical information in companies really in fact do not understand the issues involved very well. In my experience programmers can't communicate well with managers, managers can't communicate well with lawyers, and lawyers can't communicate with anyone. The mass dissonance is not surprising, nor is it the anyone's fault. Each group is trained to do very different things. Unfortunately, the resulting global uncertainty creates global paranoia leading to a general mentality of "protect first, ask questions later" when it comes to anything that could remotely be considered intellectual property. End result, people are afraid to provide information, and everyone loses. If anyone who is lobbying for documentation necessary for OBSD runs up against these arguments, I would be happy to see if I can help out. I've followed OpenBSD for several years now and would like to contribute what I can. Its a great project in a number of ways. Just send me an email when you think my skills might be helpful. No promises, but maybe I can help with a slightly different approach yielding more favorable results in those circumstances. John Knight From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 21:55:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333D316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:55:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ED743D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC33769A40; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:55:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:55:26 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Ned Harrison Message-Id: <20050320165526.3173a27a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200503201531.18590.ned.woody@cox.net> References: <200503201531.18590.ned.woody@cox.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:55:28 -0000 Ned Harrison wrote: > > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then I've had > minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will sometimes freeze > at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." or I'll lose contact > with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the web. From an earlier > posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will let the system finishing the > boot up. Then I can easily connect to my ISP by running "/etc/netstart" as > root. > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later I'll > lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a pattern to the > disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again everything works > again. It can be hours before I the lose the connection or sometimes I'll > lose the connection again within twenty minutes. I've searched for a > permanent fix by looking throught this forum. But I havn't found anything > yet. Though that might be because I don't quite know how to search! :-) > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is being logged around the time you lose connection. Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:02:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED2816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B21043D31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:02:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400D69A40; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:02:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:02:56 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Augusto Cesar Message-Id: <20050320170256.2b3b2e10.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <423DEB5B.3090506@gmail.com> References: <423DEB5B.3090506@gmail.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Invalid Gateway IPv4 Address Specified X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:02:58 -0000 Augusto Cesar wrote: > Hi, i'm installing FreeBSD on my desktop, almost everything went fine, > except when i try to setup my connection. > > The scenario: a static-ip, a direct connection to a router (which i do > NOT have ANY control over it) and a outside DNS server. When trying to > enter the gateway ip (10.0.0.9) through sysinstall, a box appears on the > screen: Invalid Gateway IPv4 Address Specified. > > And that's it. Therefore i've tried including defaultrouter="10.0.0.9" > in /etc/rc.conf, and restarted net, my computer still excluded from > outside world. What is your IP address/netmask? What's the output of 'netstat -rn'? Not enough information to be sure, but my first guess (based on the source code for sysinstall) is that you're specifying an IP for the gateway that is not reachable based on the IP/netmask for the interface. For example: If your IP/netmask is 172.16.0.1/255.255.255.0, then the system has no way to reach 10.0.0.9. If that's not the problem, the I suggest collecting some more detailed information and posting again. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:05:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6CD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:05:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CBF43D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2KM5q3d016395; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2KM5oet005648; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:05:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> <0e4314b2c521834b8dc23ba5faafccfa@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8d2e5a88d308a3f26d7e8d3074be6101@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:05:49 -0500 To: Adam X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:05:58 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Adam wrote: >> Pretend for a second that your first claim is actually correct, that >> Adaptec does not want to sell hardware. Just what do you think you >> are accomplishing by trying to convince people not to buy Adaptec >> hardware, then? According to your words, that's exactly what Adaptec >> wants. > > Your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. I can't make sense of nonsense, but that proves nothing about my reading skills. You've done a careful job of excerpting prior context away to avoid demonstrating the contradiction your words show. Do you recognize the author who inspired by remark about A and not A? Who was it that said "Non-contradiction...A is A"? > Nobody is trying > to convince people not to buy adaptec hardware. Adaptec has convinced > people themselves. Those people are just informing Adaptec of that > fact. And dropping AAC support from OpenBSD 3.7 has nothing to do with it...? Such a claim is disingenuous and dishonest. > Why are you so desperate to try to stop other people's efforts to > obtain > information? I hope open source projects obtain more information from hardware vendors. I oppose efforts to force people to make choices they would not willingly make themselves. That includes the right of a company to keep some information private if they so choose. > Nobody is asking you to do anything. You are free to use > whatever you want. Just stop spreading lies and misinformation about > other people's efforts that you clearly don't understand. First you say you aren't asking me to do anything, yet two sentences later you try to tell me to stop doing something you claim I'm doing. Contradicting yourself again? Hypocracy isn't one of your prettier failings, Adam. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:10:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3368516A4D0 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86843D39 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:10:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2KMATnF017447; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:10:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> To: misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:10:29 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt Subject: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:10:11 -0000 Since the original Adaptec guy Doug has blocked his mail, here is the email address of the next person at Adaptec who is involved in this. He has also previously indicated that he would be involved in any decision to provide documentation on the aac RAID management interface. Marty Turner marty_turner@adaptec.com Product Manager Adaptec, Inc. (919) 287-2045 Sorry Marty, but you are only getting comments from your customers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C9916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (fan.priv.at [213.129.233.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033B43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:19:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@gate.fan.priv.at) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (alex@localhost.fan.priv.at [127.0.0.1]) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2KMJVcI005574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:31 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alex@localhost) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.0/Submit) id j2KMJU3F008531 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:30 +0100 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.6 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.8 X-SMTP-Vilter-Virus-Backend: clamd X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-clamd-Virus-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-Spam-Backend: spamd X-Spam-Score: -5.8 X-Spam-Threshold: 4.0 X-Spam-Probability: -1.4 Subject: wow ! 5.3 -> 5.4 -> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:19:38 -0000 Hello dear people @ freebsd something wonderfull ( at least in my case ) happened since the last update of the base system on a sony vaio laptop ( CPU: Intel Pentium III (694.84-MHz 686-class CPU) ) before, when the machine was compiling, it was getting at 82 degrees with 100% CPU now, with 100% CPU it gets at maximum 52 degrees. what happened between 5.3 and 5.4-PRERELEASE ? thanks alot, alex -- ** acme aka Alex D'Elia ** http://root.acme.com ** priv:: alex@fan.priv.at ** work:: acme@sil.at From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CB516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0616243D53 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so845261rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:22:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ewH7oIyEtG55KK/UeIIYEWrxykOd5gGjDkJG8I3jwrf8FTC5Ryiq2oPB2/fc6ADuspEgSpC+WV8IDAVgeGKOMwdGuYOJb9F9dkWVvdg2AlJMycR3+FfE5excIHNL2XXSeXOVZDUoxpkU4epHpQrz2wGSNf8gh6xc9iLoW/ZwS/o= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr4113283rnj; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:22:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:16 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: Theo de Raadt In-Reply-To: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:22:17 -0000 I'm sorry, but aside from the chain of emails subject'd Adaptec AAC raid support, what good does this email serve to the freebsd-questions@ mailing lists? The only thing this is doing is perpetuating the cycle of emails which is simply clogging inboxes. While some of the discussion may be constructive or useful in the other thread, this is not. Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. -Tomas Quintero FreeBSD User On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:10:29 -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Since the original Adaptec guy Doug has blocked his mail, here is the > email address of the next person at Adaptec who is involved in this. > > He has also previously indicated that he would be involved in any > decision to provide documentation on the aac RAID management > interface. > > Marty Turner > marty_turner@adaptec.com > Product Manager > Adaptec, Inc. > (919) 287-2045 > > Sorry Marty, but you are only getting comments from your customers. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:27:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05B316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D42243D1F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2KMRUR6010217; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:27:30 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503202227.j2KMRUR6010217@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Tomas Quintero In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:16 EST." <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:27:30 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:27:12 -0000 Well, Tomas, The issue is that not all FreeBSD users accept a dependency on binary-only non-free components. Some of them do care. Perhaps not you, but some of them do. > I'm sorry, but aside from the chain of emails subject'd Adaptec AAC > raid support, what good does this email serve to the > freebsd-questions@ mailing lists? The only thing this is doing is > perpetuating the cycle of emails which is simply clogging inboxes. No, Tomas, you are incorrect. Yes, thousands of mails are being sent to Adaptec right now, but these mails are coming from their CUSTOMERS. Now if I was a company and I was doing something that pissed off my customers, I would like to know, that's for sure. So your use of the word "clogging" is incorrect. > While some of the discussion may be constructive or useful in the > other thread, this is not. No, Tomas, it is entirely useful. It is due to activism actions like this that the documentation for many many chipsets was freed up, for years now, chipsets which I am sure YOU are using on your machine RIGHT NOW. I have been at this for 10 years now, and I am sure you have not. It has been a momentous struggle, and it is not over yet. > Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily > and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email > belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. It belongs whereveer there are people who care about being able to have drivers for their hardware. Otherwise what you are asking for is simply ... that the developer's hands be tied. Flat out, you are wrong. This affects everyone. > > -Tomas Quintero > FreeBSD User > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:10:29 -0700, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > Since the original Adaptec guy Doug has blocked his mail, here is the > > email address of the next person at Adaptec who is involved in this. > > > > He has also previously indicated that he would be involved in any > > decision to provide documentation on the aac RAID management > > interface. > > > > Marty Turner > > marty_turner@adaptec.com > > Product Manager > > Adaptec, Inc. > > (919) 287-2045 > > > > Sorry Marty, but you are only getting comments from your customers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA0616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:29:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8225643D58 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from augusto.cesar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so518066wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:29:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:x-enigmail-supports:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SdRfTyKcl1xgru0n0qydIJ9bVkQm2DVPhw74DWqNLfoFy9jiMWTlHhlLyKlATxhVjZqsWrwY73cFN1gFDcfYs2l3ZKKilwHGPYKQ+5XDXMk0AXynK4FEC8jmEPrIvmOTIdro2gnFhKpqwgEMAmZSad3y/+CRXPprTMpjGYzKsQM= Received: by 10.54.24.27 with SMTP id 27mr3231106wrx; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.94.54.2? ([200.103.121.71]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 6sm51274wrl.2005.03.20.14.29.42; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:29:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423DF959.3050007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:29:45 -0300 From: Augusto Cesar User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423DEB5B.3090506@gmail.com> <20050320170256.2b3b2e10.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20050320170256.2b3b2e10.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Invalid Gateway IPv4 Address Specified X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:29:46 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: >What is your IP address/netmask? What's the output of 'netstat -rn'? > >Not enough information to be sure, but my first guess (based on the >source code for sysinstall) is that you're specifying an IP for the >gateway that is not reachable based on the IP/netmask for the interface. >For example: If your IP/netmask is 172.16.0.1/255.255.255.0, then the >system has no way to reach 10.0.0.9. > >If that's not the problem, the I suggest collecting some more detailed >information and posting again. > > > The netmask was the problem, thanks! Shame on me for not thinking of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:31:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:31:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net (smtp2.suscom.net [64.78.83.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4102143D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@suscom.net) Received: from localhost (smtp2.suscom.net [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1FB1CDD31 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.suscom.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 10609-04 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ip47.232.susc.suscom.net [216.45.232.47]) by smtp2.suscom.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9771B1CDD22 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:28:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:31:45 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Gerard@smtp2.suscom.net, Seibert@smtp2.suscom.net In-Reply-To: <20050320205726.6934316A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050320205726.6934316A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <20050320171721.B1B9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.20.04 [en] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at suscom.net Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard-seibert@suscom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:31:49 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:08:49 -0800 "Michael C. Shultz" wrote: ||> ||>On Sunday 20 March 2005 11:53 am, Bob Ababurko wrote: ||>> Gerard Seibert wrote: ||>> >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris ||>wrote: ||>> >||>Robert Slade wrote: ||>> >||>> Hi all, ||>> >||>> ||>> >||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this ||>> >||>> e-mail address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails ||>> >||>> where from Comcast users !! ||>> >||>> ||>> >||>> Rob ||>> >||> ||>> >||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a ||>> >||> Windows box AND is infected. ||>> >||> ||>> >||>Shame on you ||>> >||> ||>> >||>-- ||>> >||>Best regards, ||>> >||>Chris ||>> >||> ||>> >||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. ||>> > ||>> >********** Reply Separator ********** ||>> >Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM ||>> > ||>> >1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast ||>> >2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com ||>> >3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this ||>> > forum and harvest email addresses. ||>> > ||>> >-- ||>> >Gerard Seibert ||>> >gerard-seibert@suscom.net ||>> > ||>> >They say that a dog is man's best friend. I do not believe that. How ||>> >many of your friends have you had neutered? ||>> ||>> It is most likely it is a windows box that has been copromised due to ||>> one of the slew of M$ vulnerabilities. Some crafty programmer has ||>> turned this box into a zombie and installed a mailing package or a ||>> proxy server and is sending mail from it in concert with thousands of ||>> others just like it...al behind one keyboard. ||>> ||>> -Bob ||> ||> ||>Just to be fair towards the OS used by common folk, a few months ago I ||>set up a gateway machine with FreeBSD 4.11 and made the mistake of ||>running it on my DSL line without first setting up a firewall, shutting ||>off sendmail and unused ports. (due to lazyness impatience on my part) ||> ||>It took only a few hours for someone to find the open relay and use it! ||>I didn't even know until Verizon sent me an email saying I was a bad ||>boy and they were shutting off my email access for 24 hours, which they ||>did! Bottom line is it can happen to anyone. ||> ||>-Mike ********** Reply Separator ********** Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:17:20 PM Thanks Mike, that is exactly my point. Far to many individuals blame Microsoft for every conceivable thing that happens without first fully investigating the actual event. There is a very good chance that Microsoft software may be at the heart of this matter; there is also a change that O.J. Simpson is innocent, but we do not really have to go there. For all we know, these addresses could be harvested by an individual using a MAC. The point is that as soon as someone starts using an OS other than Microsoft, they are lulled into a totally false sense of security, which anyone with any real knowledge knows is simply BS. If someone like yourself can make a mistake like you described, think how easy it is for a novice to accomplish the same feat. Worse yet, they will not even be aware that they have compromised either their own or some others security because of their incompetence. -- Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@suscom.net Support your local medical examiner; die strangely! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:32:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3D116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:32:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD9343D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:32:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so648757rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:32:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pojCwtXU7NZdUwTsMXGqBV74lQbO3FKpHExq838BqNMAJTop+4vUnTsNc9YIdx6tt8SqCue9x/Iv91QZfUihGLAyj0WANm3r/gj91WvCx8uOXfWSxuznmv7+oKG8yAgB6b9Y57DtdnhuQkLdA0Czztq0EXzsWBLnfqgOxr7JKzI= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr4136050rnj; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:32:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d683828050320143270cb8240@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:32:07 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Tomas Quintero In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:32:08 -0000 There is no problem with giving FreeBSD users who really do want free software, and freedom of choice, the contact information for who to talk to at Adaptec. Everyone in the Free Software industry should be telling all hardware companies what they think about their ways of doing business, whether it's good or bad. Jason On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:16 -0500, Tomas Quintero wrote: > I'm sorry, but aside from the chain of emails subject'd Adaptec AAC > raid support, what good does this email serve to the > freebsd-questions@ mailing lists? The only thing this is doing is > perpetuating the cycle of emails which is simply clogging inboxes. > While some of the discussion may be constructive or useful in the > other thread, this is not. > > Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily > and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email > belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. > > -Tomas Quintero > FreeBSD User > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:10:29 -0700, Theo de Raadt > wrote: > > Since the original Adaptec guy Doug has blocked his mail, here is the > > email address of the next person at Adaptec who is involved in this. > > > > He has also previously indicated that he would be involved in any > > decision to provide documentation on the aac RAID management > > interface. > > > > Marty Turner > > marty_turner@adaptec.com > > Product Manager > > Adaptec, Inc. > > (919) 287-2045 > > > > Sorry Marty, but you are only getting comments from your customers. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:34:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7527516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:34:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from MXR-7.estpak.ee (mail.hot.ee [194.126.101.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2330543D5E for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:34:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee) Received: from [80.235.58.83] (80-235-58-83-dsl.trt.estpak.ee [80.235.58.83]) by MXR-7.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2DCB9B85; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:34:50 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <423DFA1E.1030007@raad.tartu.ee> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:33:02 +0200 From: Toomas Aas User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9czi_Szabolcs?= References: <4239DF2F.3090202@goodwill.hu> In-Reply-To: <4239DF2F.3090202@goodwill.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at hot.ee cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-release-p5 pptp stoped working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:34:59 -0000 G=E9czi Szabolcs wrote: > after I made a cvsup and buildworld my pptp doesn't work well. > the clients can authenticate succesfully but they cannot reach subnet=20 > except the tunnel's endpoint ip which is 192.168.1.1. > naturally my ppp/pptp configuration are unchanged. What version were you upgrading *from*? And what kind of PPTP software=20 are you using? There are some notes in /usr/src/UPDATING regarding=20 netgraph and mpd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 22:50:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BB916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:50:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2930F43D54 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:50:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so792305rng for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:50:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=EywQ9tyK++WQGKzYSap27EMQZXjXetw8JrWARYNR/PQkaFr+1h73ahVStc2eQBvpjUMjkesJvhr7QTLDiEnfxmhSWMbP46AAn/uatRCI1LR+OPXMicP71Cn0mOTA5NHWfN4eJNt0cq+BprNvQdct2qlBS8BMTaqd/PZ9EeOTF+M= Received: by 10.38.22.69 with SMTP id 69mr2481526rnv; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:50:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d68382805032014507b290e05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:50:26 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Marty Turner In-Reply-To: <5d683828050320143270cb8240@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> <5d683828050320143270cb8240@mail.gmail.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:50:27 -0000 Mr. Turner, I am very disappointed that Doug is no longer accepting emails from Adaptec customers. I hope it is not Adaptec policy to just disregard all customers when they start telling you how they feel about your hardware and business practices. Previous talks with an ex-employee from Adaptec has led me to believe that Adaptec does indeed just disregard their customers, because he stated that "Why do you think Adaptec should care about an OS that only has a small...". To get the full quote, just ask Doug, as I forwarded that message to him along with my reply. It seems that this is probably a running theme with Adaptec employees to just disregard customers, but Theo has counted over 1,800 AAC-style raid controllers in the OpenBSD community alone, and many other communities would benefit as well. If Adaptec doesn't care about a community that can account for thousands of Adaptec products, not just raid controllers, then you are sending the message that your customers should not care about Adaptec anymore, and take their business elsewhere. If that's what Adaptec wants, keep up your current communication, or lack there of. Adaptec will be losing many, many customers if this is not remedied. Jason Crawford From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:09:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D3F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:09:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E543D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23A8953C81; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:08:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:08:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bevan Coleman Message-ID: <20050320230852.GA16909@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow FreeBSD 5.3 console on Sparc Blade 100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:09:01 -0000 On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 02:28:10PM +1030, Bevan Coleman wrote: > I've just installed FreeBSD 5.3 onto a Sun Spac Blade 100 desktop > machine and have found that the console is slow behond useability > press key... wait 3 seconds...press next key....). > > OpenSSL and serial consoles are all fine with good performance, but I > was hoping to be able to use X on this machine. > > Is this a know issue? or have I just not loaded the correct driver / > used the correct kernel switch...? You're using the openfirmware console, which is indeed extremely slow. If you want to try syscons, see the freebsd-sparc64 mailing list archives for extensive discussion. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:21:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80D716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:21:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B7F43D48 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE76753C90; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:21:04 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gerard Meijer Message-ID: <20050320232104.GA18079@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <016201c52d23$b18e5e90$9600000a@guus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016201c52d23$b18e5e90$9600000a@guus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server crash "panic: spin lock held too long" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:21:13 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 09:06:17AM +0100, Gerard Meijer wrote: > Hi I have a P4 2.6Mhz running on FreeBSD 5.3. >=20 > Every few days the server crashes. When it crashes it says: >=20 > spin lock sleepq chain held by 0xc1eb7640 for > 5 seconds > panic: spin lock held too long > Uptime: 2d3h56m36s >=20 > Anybody any idea how I can fix this? See the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers' handbook to learn how to obtain the necessary information for a developer to begin investigating this. Also make sure you're running with all of the 5.3 errata patches, and consider updating to 5.4-PRERELEASE to see if it's fixed already. Kris --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPgVgWry0BWjoQKURAmdUAKDQkpXr46YWjY05EsWZJ0+WQjerFwCfZBK0 Frmeho2j7uhvCjzt7gV/xGA= =fSU0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:24:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C0B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pechkin.sputnikmedia.net (pechkin.sputnikmedia.net [212.82.212.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3043D58 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from w_@bigmir.net) Received: from pechkin.sputnikmedia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pechkin.sputnikmedia.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6376CC838 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:24:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from web02.sputnikmedia.net (web02.sputnikmedia.net [212.82.212.217]) by pechkin.sputnikmedia.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B0D6C82C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:24:06 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:24:06 +0200 From: Victor Mel'nichenko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru-RU; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050226 Firefox/1.0.1 X-Sender-IP: 213.186.202.6(217.27.150.66) X-Mailer: BigMail Message-Id: <20050320232406.4B0D6C82C@pechkin.sputnikmedia.net> Subject: cvsup:make -j4 buildworld - trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Victor Mel'nichenko List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:24:08 -0000 Please, help me with my problem: make -j4 buildworld give me this error: =3D=3D=3D> gnu/lib/libg2c sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libg2c.a /usr/obj= /usr/src/i386/usr/lib sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/gnu/lib/l= ibg2c/g2c.h /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libg2c.so.1 /us= r/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib ln -fs libg2c.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libg2c.so 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error What it is mean & how to solve the problem? _______________________________________________________________ http://www.bigmir.net - =EF=EE=E8=F1=EA =EF=EE =F3=EA=F0=E0=E8=ED=F1=EA=E8= =EC =F1=E0=E9=F2=E0=EC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:28:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDD516A547 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:28:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DB743D54 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:28:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2KNS8B6005980; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:28:08 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Victor Mel'nichenko" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:28:11 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050320232406.4B0D6C82C@pechkin.sputnikmedia.net> In-Reply-To: <20050320232406.4B0D6C82C@pechkin.sputnikmedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503201528.11353.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: cvsup:make -j4 buildworld - trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:28:30 -0000 On Sunday 20 March 2005 03:24 pm, Victor Mel'nichenko wrote: > Please, help me with my problem: make -j4 buildworld give me this > error: ===> gnu/lib/libg2c > sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libg2c.a > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root > -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg2c/g2c.h > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -s -o > root -g wheel -m 444 libg2c.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib ln > -fs libg2c.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libg2c.so > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > What it is mean & how to solve the problem? With the -j4, you don't know what is causing the problem. It is overlapped and hidden. Redo the buildworld with out -j4 and you will see what the real error is. What are you trying to build? Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:29:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF7D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:29:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1271A43D55 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:29:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id CFAC54822; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:29:28 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s129026; Mon, 21 Mar 05 00:29:23 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DB74822 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:29:23 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 3F86038012; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:29:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A47A5C002 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:29:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:29:23 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> Message-ID: References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Xwrapper doesn't use .xinitrc, or does it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:29:31 -0000 I have just rebuilt my system and a few things aren't as they used to be. When I try to start X with Xwrapper no xterms or other windows appear. Isn't Xwrapper starting the stuff in .xinitrc like "startx" used to do for me (but wont do, since it no longer has the authority to do so)?? Isn't there some documentation for Xwrapper somewhere? /Andreas (using RELENG_5_3, if that matters) -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:31:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E689E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:31:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns25.servepower.com (ns25.servepower.com [69.90.47.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C7E43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:31:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ropers@ropersonline.com) X-ClientAddr: 217.9.29.175 Received: from [217.9.29.175] (td9091daf.pool.terralink.de [217.9.29.175]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns25.servepower.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2KNc36n014838; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:38:04 -0800 In-Reply-To: References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Message-Id: <675d3ce0af3a8518d69f1d8a63be0ad2@ropersonline.com> From: Jens Ropers Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:30:52 +0100 To: Charles Swiger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-WebServe-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-WebServe-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: ropers@ropersonline.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd list cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:31:14 -0000 On 20 Mar 2005, at 17:17, Charles Swiger wrote: > You remind me of someone I knew once that went off the deep end into > paranoid delusions. > potty talk from a child that hasn't been toilet-trained, but it's > past time for you and Theo to grow up and start acting like adults, > rather than like ill-bred, spoiled children throwing temper tantrums > when told "no". Adam, all -- Lets please stop feeding this troll. I'll grant him that his bait is cleverly constructed but that doesn't give him the right to degrade a vital discussion to ad hominem attacks, rhetorical nitpicking and all-out bickering. Nor does it give him the right to shit on the misc list. Trolls are not interested in understanding the opposite party's point of view or resolving outstanding questions, they're interested in scoring points and keeping you occupied -- like in somebody's sig here, it's like mud-wrestling a pig: You both get dirty but the pig enjoys it. "We defeat the British Empire by ignoring it." "Our only weapon is our refusal." rdr on misc proto smtp from cswiger to any recipient -> gnaa.us Thanks and regards, Jens Ropers ---- www.ropersonline.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:33:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBFC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:33:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D427543D5A for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2KNXWb23792; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:33:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Duo" , Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:33:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:33:25 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Duo writes: >> >>> And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid >>> it by answering it. >> >> I did answer it. I asked for a product that provides ALL the >> features of Exchange. And he surely knows what all of the features >> of Exchange are, otherwise he could not say with confidence that >> other UNIX products provide them. > > No, you didnt. He asked you *directly* what features we are > talking about. > you launched into a diatribe. Once again, you cop out by assuming he > "surely" knows all of the features. > > Stop avoiding, go back to the original mail, and answer the question. > Duo and Anthony, I do know what features Exchange has because the ISP I work at has a sister company that consists mainly of MCSE's who install all manner of Microsoft products, including many Exchange servers. While I don't get involved in these generally, I do get called in quite often when someone's Exchange server doesen't properly talk to the rest of the mailservers on the Internet. (ie: when they are having problems sending and receiving Internet mail) The techs in the sister company think that I probably know how to solve these problems better, obviously since I fly an ISP. I of course am more than happy to let them go spend their time fixing all manner of Windows problems for their customers. However I asked Anthony for a list of features because I am not going to provide such a list only to have him go "what about [insert some inconsequential feature] your UNIX solution is lacking it so it must be crap" In short, if he wants to tell me what features he thinks are significant Exchange features I can tell him what the UNIX equivalents are. Otherwise I am not going to play guessing games. Anthony's original assertion was that -nothing- not even a combination of programs on UNIX could supply all features that Exchange supplies. Then it changed into 'no one single program' when he realized he was on a thin tree limb. > > And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly > stagnant. > Actually I don't agree with that statement Duo. Every new version of Exchange has gotten bigger, fatter, more complex, slower, and harder and harder to troubleshoot when there is a problem. Sure there are more features, but the price is the black box has gotten so large that you cannot fix anything in it anymore. > > I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon > virus scans > mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly infect > their system. > Today it is completely irresponsible to set up a corporate mailsystem that lacks mandatory virus scanning. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:41:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439A916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:41:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E9843D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2KNfSb23826; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Christian Tischler" , Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:41:18 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <423DC4E2.4080601@myunix.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:41:22 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Just to point out what I need, and then you probably will > understand why > I started this in the first place. I need to synchronize > peoples (in the > beginning only a few) calenders. As they all use Outlook I wanted to > keep things easy on them. As I really fancy FreeBSD, I started to > look for a way to combine both "worlds"... > There is actually another way you can do this without Exchange or any other heavy product. If you have a small number of Outlook users, you can go to your server and create a MSMail post office. Windows 95 and several other Windows versions (I forget which ones) came with that ability. Then you map a drive letter to the share that the postoffice is on, and set the Outlook clients to use the msmail (not exchange) connector, and point the connector to the post office on that shared drive letter. This will let the calendars exchange data. The Outlook clients must be true Outlook, not Outlook Express, and they must be in Workgroup mode. Also, it has been a long time since I've done that trick and your going to have to experiment and dig around with the various pieces of software, I may not be accurate here in relating how it's done. Also as I recall the post office creator in Windows 95 only let you do a total of 10 mailboxes per post office. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3A716A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6949243D46 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:50:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2KNo2hp030913; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:50:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:50:02 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Super Daemon Message-ID: <20050320235002.GB5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTPD and Internet Explorer 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:50:04 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 20), Super Daemon said: > I've been curious about this for a while. I have a freebsd 5.3 > Release Server running FTPD. Users running MS WIndows can connect to > it just find as long as they type in ftp://user@ipaddress. However, > when they connect as ftp://ipaddress, the server thinks they are > trying to connect anonymously. But i've noticed that this doesn't > happen when running PROFTPD from the ports. Can anyone explain why > this is??? Is there a way to connect as ftp://ipaddress and still get > prompted for username and password under internet explorer 6.0??? You have to disable anonymous logins (add the 'ftp' user to to /etc/ftpusers). If MSIE is able to log in anonymously when given a plain ftp://host URL, it will not display a login box (since it doesn't need to). ProFTPD probably has anonymous logins disabled by default. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:52:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A639A16A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:52:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B1743D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=46665 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DDADA-0001Ey-Kg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:52:00 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:60770 helo=workstation.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DDAD8-0004my-T7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:58 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> In-Reply-To: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503210051.48336.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: wow ! 5.3 -> 5.4 -> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: danny@ricin.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:52:02 -0000 On Sunday 20 March 2005 23:19, Alex D'Elia wrote: > Hello dear people @ freebsd > > something wonderfull ( at least in my case ) happened > since the last update of the base system on a sony vaio > laptop ( CPU: Intel Pentium III (694.84-MHz 686-class CPU) ) > > before, when the machine was compiling, it was getting > at 82 degrees with 100% CPU > > now, with 100% CPU it gets at maximum 52 degrees. > > what happened between 5.3 and 5.4-PRERELEASE ? > > thanks alot, > alex Well, obviously it got a lot cooler :) And 5.5 will have software CPU cooling. Seriously: I don't know the cause, could be anything. I wouldn't jump to conclusions about 5.3 -> 5.4. Interesting observation though. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 23:55:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:55:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859C543D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:55:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2KNtsb23897 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:55:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:55:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:55:45 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Duo writes: > > > When and if another product that is superior comes along, people may > well move to it. As far as I know, however, nobody is trying > to compete > with Exchange. It would be a billion-dollar undertaking with very > high risk, and the market potential just doesn't justify that sort of > adventure. > That isn't why they are trying to copy Exchange. They aren't trying to copy Exchange because Exchange is a terrible architecture. By contrast there are a number of companies who are selling messaging systems/groupware systems that have even more features than Exchange, (like Lotus Notes) and there are a lot of companies producing mail software that uses the architecture of "do a few things very well instead of a lot of thins poorly" ie" the Small is Beautiful philosophy that UNIX came from. Exchange does not do everything that a much more extensive product does, nor is it small enough to be lightweight and fast. So it really has the worst of both worlds and none of the advantages of either of them. > > My attitude is that of a longtime IT professional who has grown out of > petty schoolyard crushes and hate campaigns. I run whatever does the > job best. I don't care who wrote it. I recommend what I > consider to be > objectively best. > IT is one of those fields that is large enough so that people still have more than enough to do if they specialize. And it is a truism that a specialist knows their area far better than a generalist, even though they know everyone else's area far worse than the generalist. You are claiming yourself to be knowledgeable enough to run anything. That's a generalist approach. If you are a true generalist then you couldn't possibly know mail systems well enough to make an informed comparison of Exchange and any UNIX equivalents. And if you aren't a generalist, then your a specialist and therefore in your sphere of expertise you should know much, but in any other area you aren't going to know anything. And based on what you have posted so far your sphere of expertise isn't mail systems. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:06:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:06:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFE943D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:06:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2L06Yw2040679 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2L06Y6P040678 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:06:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050321000634.GA40655@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: swhat do I add to GENERIC to get /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:06:38 -0000 I just installed xmms. It tries and fails to open /dev/dsp. I'm using the builtin i815 sound chipset. "AC97" is it? Anybody know what to add to my kernel config file? thanks, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:12:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E787E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E8643D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB21951398; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:12:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:12:25 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <20050320132153.J82328@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050320132153.J82328@wonkity.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:33 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 01:49:57PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not=20 > just smarthost through their servers? Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you can't use personal domains (like this one). Kris --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPhFpWry0BWjoQKURAlXYAKC6PudTmP5K0W2tcm49rxW6Xd3ScACg+0qp 60c42VwiUKukdQAdrB5sVM4= =xzix -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:12:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD8A16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71043D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@usmstudent.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2L0CW8R016538 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:12:32 -0600 Message-ID: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:12:29 -0600 From: darren User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@usmstudent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:33 -0000 I could use some help troubleshooting a problem that I am having with long delays before receiving a password prompt when I log onto my FreeBSD box via ssh. I have done quite a bit of googling and I realize that the problem likely has something to do with reverse DNS lookups. But, I don't know how to pinpoint the problem from there. I've basically been playing with the /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts settings. In my hosts file, I have an entry for the private IP of my Linux box with its hostname (which is not a FQDN) and my resolv.conf file looks like: domain myrealdomain.com //I just added this, but no noticeable help search myrealdomain.com nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers2 Here's a more detailed explanation of the problem. To me, the problem seems very peculiar. The problem only exists whenever I use my laptop (which is running Linux) from within my own LAN. I can get around it by logging onto my ISP's server or my school's server (either one) and then logging back into my FreeBSD box from there. If I am at school with my laptop, I can even log into my FreeBSD server at home directly without a delay. But, if I try going directly to my FreeBSD box from my laptop when they are both inside the LAN, I get a very long delay (like 3 minutes). Sometimes the delay is so long, the connection times out and I never get a prompt. I have set the logging level up to DEBUG3 in the /etc/sshd_config file. But, I don't see where any verbose output is going. This problem is on FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE. TIA, backdoc The /var/log/auth.log file just says: ... fatal: Timeout before authentication for 192...... Here's what my laptop spits out before the long delay kicks in. root@laptop:/home/backdoc # ssh -vl backdoc 192.168.1.4 OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.4 [192.168.1.4] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host '192.168.1.4' is known and matches the DSA host key. debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:21:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436F16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.mx.vantronix.net (dhal.vantronix.net [145.253.64.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E6443D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:21:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reyk@vantronix.net) Received: (qmail 8562 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Mar 2005 00:23:38 -0000 From: reyk@vantronix.net Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:23:38 +0100 To: Tomas Quintero Message-ID: <20050321002338.GD7685@mail1.vantronix.net> References: <200503202210.j2KMATnF017447@cvs.openbsd.org> <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e05032014222270fe04@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:21:32 -0000 hi tomas, On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:22:16PM -0500, Tomas Quintero wrote: > I'm sorry, but aside from the chain of emails subject'd Adaptec AAC > raid support, what good does this email serve to the > freebsd-questions@ mailing lists? The only thing this is doing is > perpetuating the cycle of emails which is simply clogging inboxes. > While some of the discussion may be constructive or useful in the > other thread, this is not. > it's the main interest of many many many users to have open source drivers for their hardware! i'm working on a free driver for atheros wireless chipsets since a long time and i get an amazing feedback from quite a lot people. i started this project for the first generation of atheros' chipsets before there was any madwifi or ath binary-blob. atheros was not very happy about my work but the users - the open source community - encouraged me to continue my efforts. i implemented it for openbsd but i also continuously get massive feedback from freebsd, netbsd and linux people who are upset about their partially non-free and binary-only options. of course, my driver does not support all the proprietary and bleeding edge features, like the binary-blob does, but everything for basic operation is mostly done. it's the choice of the freebsd _users_ if they want to lose their freedom to get some "features" (and pleased manufacturers) or if they want to have free software with all of it's benefits. > Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily > and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email > belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. > > -Tomas Quintero > FreeBSD User > from the FreeBSD website: ---snip--- FreeBSD is free While you might expect an operating system with these features to sell for a high price, FreeBSD is available free of charge and comes with full source code. If you would like to purchase or download a copy to try out, more information is available. ---snap--- the users should ask the developers - where is the full source code? so it's absolutely correct from theo to cc the freebsd-questions@ mailing list because it's a _main_question_! we care about freebsd, netbsd and even linux because this behaviour hurts the entire open source community. more and more manufacturers are having success with getting their binary-blobs into "free" operating systems. what next? it's like accepting software patents or ridiculous copyright acts, but nobody benefits from it in a long term. some huge companies may have some initial business advantages if they protect their "intellectual property", cover everything with patents and close their hard- and software. but it does have a immense drawback, it will stop a society's technical and economical progress and the users are free to buy open and well-supported hardware from companies like ralinktech or lsi. and btw., it has always been a great benefit to _all_ of the free operating systems to share good code and to improve it in an ongoing development. free software development is like evolution and not like genetically enhanced glowing fishes which are unable to reproduce. i have some friends who are addicted to freebsd and i'm addicted to openbsd, but we're all certain about the need for 100% free software. reyk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E7816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43F343D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2L0NAmS028292; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2L0N8I4009823; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:23:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <675d3ce0af3a8518d69f1d8a63be0ad2@ropersonline.com> References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> <675d3ce0af3a8518d69f1d8a63be0ad2@ropersonline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:23:07 -0500 To: Jens Ropers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:11 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Jens Ropers wrote: > Lets please stop feeding this troll. I'll grant him that his bait is > cleverly constructed but that doesn't give him the right to degrade a > vital discussion to ad hominem attacks, rhetorical nitpicking and > all-out bickering. Nor does it give him the right to shit on the misc > list. Trolls are not interested in understanding the opposite party's > point of view or resolving outstanding questions, they're interested > in scoring points and keeping you occupied -- like in somebody's sig > here, it's like mud-wrestling a pig: You both get dirty but the pig > enjoys it. Point of fact: I've never posted an unsolicited message to an OpenBSD list. I'm responding to threads which appear in my inbox because Theo and others have decided to cross-post between and . In fact, Theo has started cross-posting additional threads, and he has rejected Tomas Quintero's simple request that he stop changing Subject: headers-- see Message-ID <200503202227.j2KMRUR6010217@cvs.openbsd.org>-- in which he asserts that this discussion "is entirely useful", and that: > > Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily > > and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email > > belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. > > It belongs whereveer there are people who care about being able to > have drivers for their hardware. I don't read , and I'm not the one starting new threads. Your objections to trolling are well-taken, but directed at the wrong person. If you acknowledge these facts, a retraction would be accepted. If you disagree with the facts as presented, I suggest asking a disinterested third-party and gaining a second opinion. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:41:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D272B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:41:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA3543D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:41:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbsd@pacbell.net) Received: from antec.home (adsl-64-166-23-88.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.166.23.88])j2L0exns021039; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:41:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:41:21 -0800 (PST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= X-X-Sender: mikko@antec.home To: Andreas Davour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050320163928.H693@antec.home> References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xwrapper doesn't use .xinitrc, or does it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:41:43 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Andreas Davour wrote: > I have just rebuilt my system and a few things aren't as they used to be. > When I try to start X with Xwrapper no xterms or other windows appear. Isn't > Xwrapper starting the stuff in .xinitrc like "startx" used to do for me (but > wont do, since it no longer has the authority to do so)?? > > Isn't there some documentation for Xwrapper somewhere? You want startx(1). The .xinitrc file is read by "xinit", btw. $.02, /Mikko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:44:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E7D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:44:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skippyii.compar.com (old.compar.com [216.208.38.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EBF43D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM000039c69a66.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.82.185])j2L0qPgp009615; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:52:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Warren Block" References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk><20050320132153.J82328@wonkity.com> <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:41:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:44:12 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Kennaway" To: "Warren Block" Cc: "Christopher Nehren" ; Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 01:49:57PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not > just smarthost through their servers? Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you can't use personal domains (like this one). Kris ----------- reply separator ------------- Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers. I've been sending mail directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without going through their "smart" hosts. This was one of the reasons I switched to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me to use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:45:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EE743D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:45:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2L0jnOW223452; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:45:50 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8FE2619FF74; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:51:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7348C19FF6F; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:51:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:51:44 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:45:55 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Actually I don't agree with that statement Duo. Every new version of > Exchange has gotten bigger, fatter, more complex, slower, and harder > and harder to troubleshoot when there is a problem. Sure there are > more features, but the price is the black box has gotten so large that > you cannot fix anything in it anymore. yes, that was exactly my point, I was agreeing. Embrace and Extend, as a policy has worked for Microsoft, by embracing a standard, extending it in a proprietary manner, hooking people in, and then trapping them in a system. >> >> I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon >> virus scans >> mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly infect >> their system. >> > > Today it is completely irresponsible to set up a corporate mailsystem > that lacks mandatory virus scanning. > Indeed, again, I agree. This is why my mailserver scans, as well as the desktop. I think you may have misunderstood my Point of view on this Ted. =) -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:54:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FC816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7982043D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2L0sFb24147 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:54:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:06 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Duo writes: > Not for many corporate managers. They don't care whether it's > Microsoft or not, as long as it's the best tool for the job. People > don't usually > reach the upper levels of management in large corporations by > indulging emotional attachments to one vendor or another. > You don't seem to understand how large corporations work, at least where IT is concerned. What your basic large corporation does with IT is they go down to Costco and buy cheap technicians off the rack for $25-30K a year, and assemble an army of them who do nothing other than run around and fix people's stupid problems (I can't print, my machine is making a funny noise, my machine says it's infected by a virus, yadda yadda.) and they contract with some place in Punjab to forward the internal IT extension to. They then tell those people that if they want to ever make more than $25-30K that they need to get their MCSEs. The corporations know that 90% of the techs don't have the motivation to actually go do this, they use the MCSE purely as a weed-out mechanism, so they never are going to be in a situation where they are paying an army of techs $60-70K to run around and answer dumb questions. Then the higher ups in IT are your basic 50-70K a year folks who have obtained their MCSE's and spent a few years in the army that runs around fixing stupid problems. But of all these people, none of them are really what you would call top-drawer IT people. Every once in a great while one of the 50-70K a year people figures things out, and quits then goes to work as a consultant making $120K a year, or goes to work in a small company making 50-70K a year but with complete freedom to do what they want. Those are the top-drawer people - but of course they are taking a giant risk that they may not have enough customers for the year, of they may make a wrong choice and drive the company to ruin. Anyway, the $50-70K a year folks in the big companies are generally the ones who aren't completely blind stumbling around, they are starting to wake up. They may be playing with an Open Source product at home or some such. But they are not anywhere near ready to deploy a sophisticated solution like a UNIX solution on their enterprise, they lack the self confidence and the knowledge. Instead, they are buck-passers, and do what they are told. At the very tip top of the big company IT is the CIO making 200K or more a year. This is a guy that is top-drawer. He's usually come from a CIO position at a smaller company and quite likely was originally one of those $50-70K'ers who figured it out and went to a small company to run their IT so he could have no interference. He knows perfectly well that he could save a shitload with an Open Source UNIX solution. However his problem is he has an entire department of buck-passers under him who don't want any serious responsibility, and if they ran into trouble during a big project, they would sit down and cry if they didn't have a 1-900 number with a pay-as-you-go support tech on the other end of the phone who would kiss them and tell them that Mommie would make it all better. He also knows he couldn't fire them and replace them with a group of $120K consultant-types who have proved their mettle, first of all because the company wouldn't pay for it, and second of all because all of those people would be gunning for his job. Nor could he fire them all and replace them with a group of 50-70Kers who could handle themselves, because all those people are running the IT groups of smaller companies and wouldn't tolerate being told what to do by him. And even if he could get them, they would also be gunning for his job. So he is stuck with the group of mediocre people, and since he cannot spend all his time holding their hands, the next best thing is to buy them a support contract with Microsoft and tell them to go deploy Microsoft solutions, and if they run into a problem, call Microsoft. Then if the people in that group even with all that assistance still cannot make things work, he can fire them and bring some of the cream of the crop out of the $25-30K a year army up into the next tier. That is how things work in IT in large companies and that is why those companies go Microsoft so often. > > So does Microsoft. Do you know how many different product suggestions that Microsoft gets every year? It is in the tens of thousands. They pick a handful of these to use for new features each release then wave them around as evidence that they are listening to the customer. > That's how it stays on top. > Microsoft stays on top because it is a monopoly. Legally and actually, it is a monopoly. And monopolies stay on top because there isn't anyone else who competes against them - because nobody else can get a foothold in a monopoly market. It has nothing to do with customer loyalty. Most people hate the phone companies for example but none of the local phone companies have gone out of business as a result. > It's all a bit amusing, since I remember when Microsoft was > the underdog > and the Great Satan was IBM or DEC. The names change, but the game > remains the same, and the flying accusations are just as baseless > today as they were back then. > The accusations were just as accurate back then as they are now. Monoplies are bad for customers. That is a known fact and it is why the anti-trust laws exist, and are enforced, in the United States. It is why monopolies are regulated, because we realize that regulation is a poor substitute for a healthy market, but it is the only thing we can do about monopoly markets. > > You need a stroke of good luck before someone working on open source > will talk to you. > > I'm still waiting for solutions to my SATA and SCSI problems. > You were given things to try and do to solve the problem. You didn't like the suggestions and you haven't even tried any of them, so you still have the problems. Don't blame this on the rest of us. >> The Exchange solution might be best for a gold partner with M$, but >> overall, a very poor solution, which locks you into a feature set, >> and a company that has shown little concern for its base of >> customers. > > The success of the product would seem to belie your claim. A lot of > organizations and users really like Exchange. > Even the strongest Exchange supporters don't like the expense of it and would love for it to be cheaper. Your allegations don't hold water. > > I have yet to see anything on microcomputers that I'd call a real > DBMS, but perhaps someone out there is coming close. Eventually > they'll reinvent what mainframe programmers knew thirty-five years > ago. > MPC (http://www.mpccorp.com/) which was created from Micron when they sold their PC business and merged with Interland, is currently making and selling hardware that is the descendent of the old Netframe servers. This hardware utilizes the same redundancy of the "old mainframes" of yesteryear. So, from a hardware standpoint, the hardware has been reinvented. And from a software standpoint, you are crazy. The DBMSs of today, Oracle and so on, are far better than anything that the old mainframe programmers worked on. Even some of the open source DMBS like Postgres are better than a lot of what the old mainframe programmers had to work with. > > Open-source developers tend to care about doing stuff that's fun, and > ignoring stuff that isn't. So if the features you want are fun to > write, you'll get them; otherwise you won't. > That is true but what your missing is the variation in people, just about every feature is "fun" somewhere to someone to write. And also many of the biggest Open Source solutions are becoming hybridized, like MySQL AB, and so you do in fact have paid developers working on stuff. But in any case, if you force someone to work on something they don't think is fun to do, your just asking for a terrible product. Your also asking for your expensive developer to quit on you right at the worst time and go elsewhere where he can be paid to work on something he likes to do. > > I think it is professionally irresponsible to let one's emotions drive > one's choice of vendor or product--particularly when one is being paid > to make recommendations on these. If one can't choose the > best tool for > the job with a cool and objective head, it may be wise to move to > another career that one doesn't take so personally. > Well yeah, that is a great idea. Unfortunately it never works in practice. You go pay a Mirosoft consulting house to make product recommendations, they are going to recommend Microsoft stuff. You go pay a Linux consulting house to make product recommendations you are going to get Linux stuff. You go pay an ISP to recommend a mailserver and they are going to tell you to setup your people to use their server for the mailboxes and pay them to host mail. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:54:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD58D16A4D1 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F90943D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2L0sSBu013573; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:54:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503210054.j2L0sSBu013573@cvs.openbsd.org> To: misc@openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:54:28 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:54:09 -0000 Mark_Salyzyn@adaptec.com is another person who can be talked to about this matter. He just sent me a long private mail, none of which really indicates that anything is really happening at Adaptec about our concerns. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9BC16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CDF43D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2L0uPb24173; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Duo" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:17 -0000 Duo wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>> I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon virus >>> scans mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly >>> infect their system. >>> >> >> Today it is completely irresponsible to set up a corporate mailsystem >> that lacks mandatory virus scanning. >> > > Indeed, again, I agree. This is why my mailserver scans, as > well as the > desktop. I think you may have misunderstood my Point of view > on this Ted. > =) No I was agreeing with you there. I was pretty surprised to read Anthony recommending desktop based AV only, since so many Windows viruses are transmitted via e-mail. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 01:08:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692B916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:08:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE45743D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:08:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2L18RWn055142; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2L18R4r055137; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050321010827.GA47036@thought.org> References: <20050321000634.GA40655@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321000634.GA40655@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swhat do I add to GENERIC to get /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:08:26 -0000 On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 04:06:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > I just installed xmms. It tries and fails to open /dev/dsp. > I'm using the builtin i815 sound chipset. "AC97" is it? > Anybody know what to add to my kernel config file? > > thanks, people, > I could've sworn that in dmesg there was something about the AC97; now I find that it is a pci0. On-board. According to the conf/NOTES file, I need to use snd_ich. gary kline, relying to his own post.... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 01:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F2E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAC443D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:13:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2L1DtiT025008; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:13:55 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503210113.j2L1DtiT025008@cvs.openbsd.org> To: misc@cvs.openbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:13:55 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt Subject: Adaptec Information I have received X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:13:35 -0000 I have received information from a few sources that indicates that Adaptec does not have documentation on their management interface in-house. They only have a source-code implimentation, for a variety of models. So that is perhaps why they are so slow. That does however speak rather badly. I have not encountered a vendor without even internal documentation for their products in quite a while. Companies you've probably rarely heard of like Zydas, Atmel, Symbol have documentation for their wireless chipsets. The Adaptec SCSI chipset documentation that we dragged out of Adaptec about 8 years ago or so was 12 books. I hope this is not true. Any ex-Adaptec employees want to set the record straight (and please tell the truth..) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 02:41:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4016D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:41:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9B843D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:41:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 8umfd40jtzbdot0sr8q0a@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 1so298367rny for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F2xkOVSTkyoGIx2bC6B5dGLJ8IzRhTXYhKr7N3em9xNqpCrtIJYx4zueWhnDPpydRvTZ9sWTdE31FFU9x5fxfX4k3NtJj0C7Qaua9X2+28QgEzihLMlxNczYAjjs8DAada54XF5fo86DvXj49/dOdERG7HZ+zYdKrshDJAto8nY= Received: by 10.11.117.55 with SMTP id p55mr293549cwc; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.11.117.13 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5638723d05032018417d2261c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:41:27 -0800 From: "j ." <8umfd40jtzbdot0sr8q0a@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: perl upgrade to 5.8.6 and DB_File won't build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "j ." <8umfd40jtzbdot0sr8q0a@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:41:29 -0000 It all started with a simple perl upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.8.6. Unfortunately, DB_File fails to build properly. I am running FreeBSD 4.10 Stable #1 Here's the resu.llts of the make test make test -------------------- PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/suidperl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/db-btree....Can't load '/usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so' for module DB_File: /usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so: Undefined symbol "db_create_4002" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/DynaLoader.pm line 230. at t/db-btree.t line 34 Compilation failed in require at t/db-btree.t line 34. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/db-btree.t line 34. t/db-btree....dubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) t/db-hash.....Can't load '/usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so' for module DB_File: /usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so: Undefined symbol "db_create_4002" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/DynaLoader.pm line 230. at t/db-hash.t line 23 Compilation failed in require at t/db-hash.t line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/db-hash.t line 23. t/db-hash.....dubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) t/db-recno....Can't load '/usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so' for module DB_File: /usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811/blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.so: Undefined symbol "db_create_4002" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach/DynaLoader.pm line 230. at t/db-recno.t line 23 Compilation failed in require at t/db-recno.t line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at t/db-recno.t line 23. t/db-recno....dubious Test returned status 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) FAILED--3 test scripts could be run, alas--no output ever seen *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/home/joe/DB_File-1.811. ------------------------------ Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 02:50:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE89116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1202443D58 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1338651256; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:50:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:50:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Emmerton Message-ID: <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:50:25 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 07:41:00PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: > > What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not > > just smarthost through their servers? >=20 > Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by > a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop > outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they > require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you > can't use personal domains (like this one). >=20 > Kris >=20 > ----------- reply separator ------------- >=20 > Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers. I've been sending mail > directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without > going through their "smart" hosts. This was one of the reasons I switched > to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me= to > use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail. I don't understand what your point is...I didn't say rogers forced you to use their smarthost, only that lots of people (e.g. lots of people in europe and russia, in my experience) blacklist your emails when you don't. Kris --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPjZqWry0BWjoQKURAiCTAKDArgme563A6f64Mp+GIpwetigVIwCdGvbl fw+PvIYMcIPkIFFpOnqZ9FI= =C/Ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 03:43:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C93616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:43:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97E943D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2L3hdb24774; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Charles Swiger" Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:43:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: RE: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:43:33 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 20, 2005, at 2:24 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > [ ... ] >> In that case Dell is a customer of Adaptec, not the other way around, >> so any NDA that Dell might require for Adaptec to sign would not >> have restricted Adaptec's use of it's own programming documentation. > > And you know this, because...? > > You've read that NDA and you know just what it says and what > it covers? Are you really stupid or are you just pretending to be really stupid? Do you even know what an NDA is for? An NDA prevents someone from talking about what are regarded as trade secrets. In the case of Adaptec supplying Dell with controllers, Dell does not have trade secrets that they would be giving to Adaptec. Instead, Adaptec would be the one presenting the 'trade secrets' to Dell in the form of programming info, thus Adaptec would be issuing the NDA to Dell, not the other way around. If you cannot understand this then there's no point in discussing it further with you, as you quite obviously have no idea what an NDA is. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 03:49:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B5216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:49:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEAE43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 531594 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:49:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4784ac6b1c733814fa60cd66b1e00776@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:49:05 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:49:21 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Duo writes: > >> And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid >> it by >> answering it. > > I did answer it. I asked for a product that provides ALL the features > of Exchange. And he surely knows what all of the features of Exchange > are, otherwise he could not say with confidence that other UNIX > products > provide them. Why when this type of question comes up is it so hard for someone just name those must-have features that are so necessary? It always sounds like a cop-out... A: This solution is best. B: I disagree. I can do it well with this solution. A: Bah. That solution doesn't have all the features and convenience of my solution. B: Oh yeah? Bet my solution can do it. What features are missing? A: Look, you're intent on trashing my solution, so you must be familiar with it. I want to see a solution on your platform that has the exact featureset of my solution. I mean, even if he named a perfectly useable solution, what would you do then? Counter that it doesn't include a helpful Office Assistant and full integration with an office suite product? "I'm looking for a car that looks, acts, feels, and drives just like a Ford Focus. It's the best in the world. I challenge anyone out there to come up with a car like it..." If you have an exact product in mind and aren't going to be happy until every last menu and interface glitch and memory footprint-hogging feature is matched point for point...buy that product and let it be. We run an Exchange server, and out of a thousand users, we have maybe five people that actually use the calendar function. Everyone else uses it purely for email. Waste! The only things we use out of it are IMAP/Exchange interface fore mail retrieval, SMTP for sending, five people use the calendar, address book that sometimes people actually try using without subverting with local personal address books that they're duplicating addresses (often with typos) that already exist in the global directory, integration with AD (one of the only useful things I've found in using it on a 99% Windows network...create their account, they already have email ready), and the web interface. While it may work like a charm for you, I find the header mangling to be a major PITA when troubleshooting things. I love it more when I'm using my favorite email client (Mail.app) to read mail and retrieve bounces, and most of the info regarding the email (or attachment) is mangled or stripped so I have to use Outlook from an RDP session to "re-send" the message just so I can see the actual content. That's a feature? I find it to be a PITA. And what should we do when people have preferences for different clients for tasks? With Exchange/Outlook, you get an all or nothing. Pretty much anything else is crippled or somewhat usable unless you're running Windows with Outlook on it. Want an ultimate solution? Create a server platform that is modular and is interfaced by API, so your client can be running on any platform or interface and still get the same information. Don't use a server "system" that is so tied to a particular product that everything else is crippled or supported only part way. Maybe "cobbling" together a solution may be better for some institutions. I know that for me (and many of our client systems) the bandwidth requirements and memory restrictions on the desktop make running that bloated memory hog Outlook far more a pain than a boon while trying to get other things done. >> As for looking for non microsoft solutions, yes. There is a point to >> that. It's called voting with your pocketbook, and its a valid course >> of action in a capitalist society. Choosing to go outside a monopoly >> is a right. > > So you never buy Intel microprocessors, and you never buy anything with > a zipper? (Remember, YKK has a virtual world monopoly on zippers.) Intel isn't a monopoly, since AMD seems to have a large stake in the market running the same stuff Intel chips run. As for zippers, I'm pretty sure the interface is well documented, and if you want to come up with a better design to market, you're probably free to. If they used their position in the market to lock you out, like, say, threatening their buyers with retribution if they were to purchase your product, then that is abusing the monopoly power. Monopolies aren't necessarily bad, it's when they abuse that position that it is a problem. If nobody wants to challenge the current monopoly holder as having the best pooper scooper on the market, it makes little sense to cry monopolist over it. >> And yes, looking for non MS solutions, for the sake of it, is a valid >> choice. > > Not for many corporate managers. They don't care whether it's > Microsoft > or not, as long as it's the best tool for the job. And when they're too ignorant to do what their IT people tell them to choose instead of what "other people are doing"? Best tool for the job my arse...Name one IT admin who isn't getting "political pressure" to choose a particular solution at some point in their professional career. Pick up the latest Linux Format. It has a fun article on the Navy choosing Win2k to run their latest ships. It has some quote in it from the American Navy having problems and saying that they were under political pressure to choose it (Windows NT 4.0) despite some reliability issues. Best tool for the job? > People don't usually > reach the upper levels of management in large corporations by indulging > emotional attachments to one vendor or another. I've heard more than one that enjoys the benefits of choosing particular vendors while overlooking minor shortcomings. Dinner here, free toys there. Sometimes it's a vendor willing to dedicate a salesman that strokes the ego the right way. And many upper-management types don't dedicate as much time learning about the trenches anymore. They're too busy managing. Worse yet, solution pits. I had someone tell me that a mail server that went wonky couldn't be replaced with a free solution. Why? Because they already invested so much in the current (and at the time broken) solution. Ten grand in licensing per year at the time just to run it. Plus the cost of getting it fixed after it decided to go south. Hmm...free, versus thousands a year. For just doing POP/IMAP/SMTP. Best tool for the job?... >> If for instance, I go with a product of MS, as opposed to a smaller >> OSS project, the OSS Project typically *cares* about the feedback I >> give it. It cares about the features I want and need. > > So does Microsoft. That's how it stays on top. So, the overwhelming market share and people's reluctance to "have to relearn" things doesn't play any role in this, right? > It's all a bit amusing, since I remember when Microsoft was the > underdog > and the Great Satan was IBM or DEC. The names change, but the game > remains the same, and the flying accusations are just as baseless today > as they were back then. Google for "Why I Hate Microsoft", a personal rant that is a very good read. Highly recommended. > It's a pity that no discussion of software can be carried out these > days > without degenerating into religious jihads against Microsoft. Personally, I give credit where credit is due, in my opinion. There are things Microsoft didn't do poorly. But there are many things that can and should be redone. >> I need a credit card before MS will talk to me. > > You need a stroke of good luck before someone working on open source > will talk to you. Depends on the project. I had an amazing response to problems with PortManager, from the author himself. And on this list, there's apparently an ongoing flamethrower demonstration with the head honcho himself of OpenBSD. >> The Exchange solution might be best for a gold partner with M$, but >> overall, a very poor solution, which locks you into a feature set, and >> a company that has shown little concern for its base of customers. > > The success of the product would seem to belie your claim. A lot of > organizations and users really like Exchange. And others, like us, are using it pretty much because we are told we must, and try to make the best of it. >> This is a problem for things such as virus scanning, and tight >> integration with an AD Environment, which is getting more and more >> replication based. In fact, some types of virus scanning can introduce >> data corruption of the store, which could lead to other issues. > > Step number one in any Exchange database failure is to turn off and > deinstall all the antivirus junk running against it. > > I'd tend to prefer to put antivirus stuff on the client, not on the > server. Nice, but expensive at the desktop. If you can stop the incoming intruders at the front gates, it's generally less hassle to do that. Besides, with the constant communications back to the Exchange server, why not put it on the Exchange server? But with the stability problems these can introduce (and the already bloated requirements to run it), I can see your point. Maybe that's why we moved incoming mail to a pre-screening mail server (FreeBSD) that scans initially for spam and viruses then hands it off to the internal mail server. That reason, and the security problems that seem to crop up with running Exchange on Windows kept us from wanted it to run unshielded. > Some users may not want their e-mail scanned for viruses. > Power users, in particular, may not want any virus protections at all, > since they know not to click on attachments and antivirus software all > too often hashes the very system it's supposed to protect. The only reason I didn't want mine scanned was to get samples to test with. Other than that, it was annoying as hell to keep deleting the same fake Windows-patches messages and cruft. >> What's more, the virus scanners that do run against Exchange's DB, >> also cost money, and typically require some more hardware. And >> overhead. So now I am running exchange, and a bevy of other stuff to >> prop it up. > > You don't have to run virus scanners. When 99.9 percent of your users aren't computer literati, this is unacceptable...you need to protect them from themselves as much as possible. Statements like that one you made will cost you credibility. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 03:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0092816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FCB43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2C2085684; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20050321035946.GH79501@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:55 -0000 --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 20 March 2005 at 18:50:18 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 07:41:00PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: > >>> What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not >>> just smarthost through their servers? >> >> Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by >> a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop >> outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they >> require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you >> can't use personal domains (like this one). >> >> Kris >> >> ----------- reply separator ------------- >> >> Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers. I've been sending mail >> directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without >> going through their "smart" hosts. This was one of the reasons I switched >> to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me to >> use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail. > > I don't understand what your point is...I didn't say rogers forced you > to use their smarthost, only that lots of people (e.g. lots of people > in europe and russia, in my experience) blacklist your emails when you > don't. Indeed. I do, and it blocks an amazing amount of spam. I do have the courtesy to say "please use your ISP's mail server" in the error reply. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPkayIubykFB6QiMRAlGpAKCTU5/own7Oo95jm7yXIwE2tfk+DwCeKTT1 3gogl/5BkZ4RwFRmS+dnpSs= =vyqE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 04:10:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DB916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:10:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5103243D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0B11D1C00084 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:10:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E5A311C00083 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:10:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321041029940.E5A311C00083@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:10:29 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1297045482.20050321051029@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:10:31 -0000 Duo writes: > And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly > stagnant. If it does the job, it doesn't have to change. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 04:13:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C375E16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4157643D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7773F1C0008C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:13:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F60C1C0008B for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:13:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321041352390.5F60C1C0008B@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:13:52 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1703710835.20050321051352@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <906778535.20050320192530@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:13:53 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > You are claiming yourself to be knowledgeable enough to run anything. Not anything, but a lot of things. > If you are a true generalist then you couldn't possibly know mail > systems well enough to make an informed comparison of Exchange and any > UNIX equivalents. But that would apply to anyone, wouldn't it? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 04:20:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020DE16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9FD43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:20:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E6F861C00089 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:20:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CE19E1C00086 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:20:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321042023844.CE19E1C00086@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:20:23 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:20:25 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > You were given things to try and do to solve the problem. No, I was not. I encountered a few people throwing darts and trying to pretend that they had a clue and/or working to divert any suspicion from FreeBSD towards unspecified, unverified hardware problems, but I got no real answers. I don't think anybody has any idea, which doesn't surprise me. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 05:21:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6320816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:21:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC6943D60 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:21:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2L5LZCh004147 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:21:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:31:31 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.0 Message-Id: <1111383091l.18081l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: wine can't read a cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:21:38 -0000 $ wine c:/Program\ Files/Starcraft/starcraft.exe fixme:file:get_default_drive_device auto detection of DOS devices not supported on this platform fixme:cdrom:CDROM_GetInterfaceInfo not implemented for BSD fixme:ntdll:NtQueryVolumeInformationFile device info not properly supported on this platform err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not available $ Data File Error: Starcraft is unable to read a required file. Your cd may not be in the drive..... I can not get any cracks to work. I can use winefile to browse the cd. I can run the launcher app off the disc, but it freezes and pops up a warning about the disc not in the drive. I have spent hours on this, any one have an idea? FreeBSD BARTON 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #5: Mon Mar 7 20:51:09 EST 2005 jason@BARTON:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NINAMORI i386 and I compiled wine today after a cvsup. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 05:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C649716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:28:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (177.154.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch [62.203.154.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5D343D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:28:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2L5Ulxw084671; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2L5Ul9H084670; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:30:46 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Freek Nossin Message-ID: <20050321053046.GB82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Freek Nossin , 'Martin Schweizer' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050320180903.GA82075@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050320210119.210EE801227A@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20050320210119.210EE801227A@smtp-out3.tiscali.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: 'Martin Schweizer' Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:28:34 -0000 What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then make inst= all? Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old.=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > To: Freek Nossin > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > >=20 > > Hello Freek > >=20 > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X-Version? > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > >=20 > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not ev= en > > as > > > root with > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling list, b= ut > > I > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042264. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042162. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042222. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042204. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042488. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042156. > > > html > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > > -- > >=20 > > Regards > > Gruss > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > >=20 > > Martin Schweizer > > > >=20 > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 05:39:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D2416A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from reiche.trumpetpower.com (reiche.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD45443D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@trumpetpower.com) Received: from [65.39.81.114] (doc.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.114]) (authenticated bits=0)j2L5dOKM029447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:24 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-9--67632999" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Goren Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:13 -0700 To: misc@openbsd.org X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd list Subject: Doug Richardson is (probably) back online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:39:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9--67632999 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Folks, I just sent a note to Mr. Richardson and it doesn't seem to have bounced. First, if anybody really did mailbomb him (as the Anonymous Coward at 68.165.27.173 claims on the OpenBSD Journal), please do us all a favor and turn yourself in to the FBI. To the rest, I would encourage that you re-send notes that bounced. However, Mr. Richardson has expressed concern over the volume of email he's been receiving. I'd like to point out that clear and concise beats overly excessively verbose and befuddled lack of objectifying mumble. Don't think that you should silence yourselves, but do brush up on your Strunk (http://www.bartleby.com/141/). It'll make your writing more effective and perhaps make Mr. Richardson's job easier. Cheers, b& --Apple-Mail-9--67632999 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCPl4GpxyAy2XznCMRAgb6AJ4vH3aFLNjxU+ZJZ9DP59zbOQ5cTwCfe+ta cVUwlyxLtVuU6bWmtQVhmYE= =21G8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-9--67632999-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 05:59:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F7816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:59:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899A243D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:59:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgeorge.ml@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so580039wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=s/fKPxYB4KvtcACRGRHTWYvIpKPN8ODTulXWrrghbBy0qS/sldA4uWJoAf26VitQbNP+VWm2Eq9Wa7mBG7fuL4RAzS66aZn/xVT30zXbCQ4MFaCsfToy3VqbndgomOWBqRePnb7TZFYjxbFohAx58Skl2QpIY0eSs93hdu4X1Ls= Received: by 10.54.45.41 with SMTP id s41mr2709838wrs; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.14.62 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:29:47 +0530 From: Siju George To: Ben Goren In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Doug Richardson is (probably) back online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Siju George List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:59:50 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:13 -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > Folks, > Don't think that you should silence yourselves, but do brush up on your > Strunk (http://www.bartleby.com/141/). It'll make your writing more > effective and perhaps make Mr. Richardson's job easier. > Thankyou so much for the link Ben :)))))) I appreciate it greatly :)) kind regards Siju From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:01:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851CD16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53908.mail.yahoo.com (web53908.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEB9043D66 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:01:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88933 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Mar 2005 06:01:58 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=BzQh0qAUwmCXLmsYmbWHsIC+qcYCwfXp3kPMulLhSmEiCIJ9dG+OxDvYE96KBffb3j6yIQCM0rLqzLDHGsjGw3kk533KgBaOU9RFvD5cv0rHMCuAQPLrtqjN0Vu30M9yUQKrToSISsRbnkckI00Sjxk1mEpoOVX1w2dANZMTwxk= ; Message-ID: <20050321060158.88931.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.157.56.196] by web53908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:01:58 PST Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: jason@ec.rr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine can't read a cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:01:59 -0000 it was said: >Data File Error: >Starcraft is unable to read a required file. Your cd may not be in the >drive..... > > >I can not get any cracks to work. I can use winefile to browse ^^^^^^ Can you get any software you haven't stolen to work? stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:07:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CFB16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:07:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (mail.bathnetworks.com [84.92.24.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3C43D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@bathnetworks.com) Received: (qmail 27947 invoked by uid 510); 21 Mar 2005 06:08:42 +0000 Received: from 84.92.24.252 by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk (envelope-from , uid 508) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/710. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.986768 secs); 21 Mar 2005 06:08:42 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: bsd@bathnetworks.com via lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.986768 secs Process 27940) Received: from mail.bathnetworks.com (HELO ?84.92.24.252?) (bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 06:08:39 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20050320134224.30F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> References: <20050320172230.4141B16A4F2@hub.freebsd.org> <20050320134224.30F9.GERARD-SEIBERT@suscom.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111385318.27569.15.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:08:39 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:07:59 -0000 On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 18:42, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:22:23 -0600 Chris wrote: > ||> > ||>Robert Slade wrote: > ||>> Hi all, > ||>> > ||>> Is it just me, but I've had 2 Ebay Phishing e-mails to this e-mail > ||>> address that I only use for this mail list. Both mails where from > ||>> Comcast users !! > ||>> > ||>> Rob > ||> > ||>Sounds like someone from Comcast is on this list AND using a Windows box > ||>AND is infected. > ||> > ||>Shame on you > ||> > ||>-- > ||>Best regards, > ||>Chris > ||> > ||>If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong. > > > ********** Reply Separator ********** > Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:35:28 PM > > 1) Did you actually confirm that the email originated from Comcast Yes: Received: from c-24-13-45-69.client.comcast.net (HELO 192.168.0.101) (24.13.45.69) Direct to my mail server. It is also significant that the sending IP is listed on a number of blacklists including SORBS. > 2) Did you report the email to Comcast as well as spoof@ebay.com Yes, Ebay appear to have done something, Comcast not as the machine is still sending. > 3) Why does it have to be a Windows box? Anyone can access this forum > and harvest email addresses. Not my comment, but that is the most likely cause. Although there may be more to it. BTW I have just got a spam e-mail to the same address, this one came from a rr IP. It was advertising a site in ru space and the ebay one leads back to a ru site too. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42AF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:21:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mydestiny.net (mx2.mydestiny.net [202.8.224.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422EC43D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:21:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toppy@toppy.port5.com) Received: from av-mx.mydestiny.net (av-mx [202.8.224.59]) by mx2.mydestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49AD110746 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:23:59 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by av-mx.mydestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F5A6B04F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:21 +0800 (PHT) Received: from av-mx.mydestiny.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (av-mx.mydestiny.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21286-09 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:15 +0800 (PHT) Received: from mx1.mydestiny.net (mx1.mydestiny.net [202.8.224.3]) by av-mx.mydestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4361A6AFD6 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:15 +0800 (PHT) Received: from sid.sandiego.loc (unknown [202.128.36.223]) by mx1.mydestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E35D51D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:20:44 +0800 (PHT) Received: from sid.sandiego.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sid.sandiego.loc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB314585 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:23:52 +0800 (PHT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher San Diego Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:23:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87acoxms93.fsf@sid.sandiego.loc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mydestiny.net Subject: Updating FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:21:40 -0000 I'm a confused newbie whose been (re)installing FreeBSD 5.3 Release for the past week or two. I've read the handbook and various other documents concerning updating FreeBSD only to learn that -STABLE and -CURRENT are both development branches. I've decided to stick with -RELEASE. Given this, is there anything I need to update? Does this also mean my next update will be when 5.4-RELEASE comes out? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:26:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DA316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:26:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CBF43D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:26:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from BARTON (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2L6QUkc006984; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:26:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:35:31 +0000 From: Jason Henson To: stheg olloydson References: <20050321060158.88931.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050321060158.88931.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> (from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com on Mon Mar 21 01:01:58 2005) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.0 Message-Id: <1111386931l.761l.0l@BARTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine can't read a cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:26:34 -0000 On 03/21/05 01:01:58, stheg olloydson wrote: > it was said: > > > > >Data File Error: > >Starcraft is unable to read a required file. Your cd may not > be in the > >drive..... > > > > > >I can not get any cracks to work. I can use winefile to browse > > ^^^^^^ > > > Can you get any software you haven't stolen to work? > > stheg > > > > __________________________________ Haha, very funning. I have bought all my games thank you very much. My games just won't run under FreeBSD. And cracks were actually recomended on some linux mail archives I found. They would solve my problem if they worked. Does starcraft work for you on a fresh wine install with no extra configuration? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686DA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from piccollo.p6m7g8.net (c66-236-219-70.ip.panth.com [66.236.219.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374043D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:48:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [192.168.0.111] (pcp09579574pcs.rtchrd01.md.comcast.net [68.48.16.23]) (authenticated bits=0) by piccollo.p6m7g8.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2L6mVlB079198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:48:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <423E6E4C.5030908@p6m7g8.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:48:44 -0500 From: "Philip M. Golllucci" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CVS w/ SSH only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:48:52 -0000 Hi, I've setup CVS along with the common cvs_acls.pl and log_accum.pl (I believe I used the Apache ones not the FreeBSD ones as they were not quite as customized) scripts. I only allow SSH logins to my server like any sane person. I'd like to enhance my CVS to only allow you to login in via SSH i.e. (tcsh) setenv CVS_RSH ssh (like the FreeBSD cvs servers do) instead of my current pserver method. Any documentation/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch. -- END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci Consultant E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Phone : 301.254.5198 $Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 06:57:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609B016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DE943D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmconnolly1@comcast.net) Received: from powerspecp4 (c-24-8-225-230.client.comcast.net[24.8.225.230]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050321065734014004f3gqe>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:57:35 +0000 From: "Mike Connolly" To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:57:42 -0700 Message-ID: <003701c52de3$47906a40$6401a8c0@PowerSpecP4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Subject: Can't get out of X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:57:36 -0000 Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on my system. I used Xorg to configure the X window and it sees to work fine. But I can't get the Ctrl>Alt>Backspace to work to close down the X server. When I use the keyboard combo my Dell monitor goes blank. From there I can blindly type "startx" and it goes back into the X windows. But how can I get out of X and back to the console window ? Thanks, Mike 1600 Mhz Pentium 4 512 MB Memory VIA P4X266 VL33-S Mainboard Sis 315 Display Adapter Dell 933M Monitor Here is some of my xorg.config.new file: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 350 260 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL M993s" ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync 1246581376.0 - 0.0 HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0 # VertRefresh 892810048.0 - 0.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 160.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "HWcursor" # [] .... .... Identifier "Card0" Driver "sis" VendorName "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]" BoardName "SiS315PRO PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 07:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A042116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A375C43D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2L7JOEe081555; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:19:24 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA29658; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:13:01 +0300 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:38 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=-0.038 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:13:18 -0000 On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:51:58PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: " "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: " " > Does any body know, how can I use OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) for " > determine total traffic volume on network interface? If it's " > impossible, what facility you recommend me to do this? " " Various pfctl -s options (eg pfctl -s info) give you counters of bytes " and packets passed or blocked. If you use labels in your pass rules, " you'll get per label counters as well. " Thank you, Peter. So, now I can define rule like block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate As you can see, ssh packets match to all rule and pass in because last rule win. Does it mean, that I can't see ssh's packet using command # pfctl -sl And if I use block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate label $ext_ip ... I see label twice ? Perhaps you know where I can find workable example of this? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 07:45:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E5F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:45:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from epost04.hit.no (epost04.hit.no [128.39.198.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6907443D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:45:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no) Received: from bo11836.hit.no ([128.39.118.36]) by epost04.hit.no with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DDHdH-00027i-Sq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:47:29 +0100 Message-ID: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:45:31 +0100 From: Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Subject: linksys WPC54G (ver.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:45:36 -0000 Hello did anyone here manage to get linksys WPC54G working on freebsd? I tried with ndis but i cant manage to get the card activated, maybe I have the wrong drivers? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 07:56:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A4816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:56:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AA943D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:56:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2L7uPBM069892; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:56:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:54:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:38 +0300") Message-ID: <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: emin@mccme.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:56:38 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip > pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate > > As you can see, ssh packets match to all rule and pass in because > last rule win. Does it mean, that I can't see ssh's packet using > command > # pfctl -sl here you label the blocked packets but not the ones you pass, which means your ssh packets would count toward the packets passed counter only. > And if I use > > block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip > pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate label $ext_ip > > ... I see label twice ? No. But both rules would increment the $ext_ip counter, which means that your $ext_ip counter would be essentially packet totals. Last matching rule wins (with state instead of sate it would work), so each packet increments the relevant counters only once. > Perhaps you know where I can find workable example of this? Randal Schwartz has a nice article called "Monitoring Net Traffic with OpenBSD's Packet Filter" at http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9053/sam0403j/0403j.htm -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 08:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979F416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4051543D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2L87Jb25643 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:07:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:07:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:07:09 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> You were given things to try and do to solve the problem. > > No, I was not. I encountered a few people throwing darts and trying > to pretend that they had a clue and/or working to divert any > suspicion from > FreeBSD towards unspecified, unverified hardware problems, but I got > no real answers. I don't think anybody has any idea, which doesn't > surprise me. The problem is you just don't want it to be a hardware problem because you don't accept the possibility that the NT driver wrote around a hardware problem and the FreeBSD driver doesen't. Despite the fact that making up for hardware problems with writearounds in the software drivers is a common thing in the industry. So you won't do the testing to prove that it is or isn't a hardware bug, and thus you can continue pretending to yourself that it must be software, and thus not your responsibility. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:13:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F183616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:13:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093843D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:13:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 3207648D4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:13:07 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s131079; Mon, 21 Mar 05 10:12:55 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD9C492B; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:53 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 6B3D238012; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652FE5C002; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:12:53 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Christopher San Diego In-Reply-To: <87acoxms93.fsf@sid.sandiego.loc> Message-ID: References: <87acoxms93.fsf@sid.sandiego.loc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:13:12 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Christopher San Diego wrote: > I'm a confused newbie whose been (re)installing FreeBSD 5.3 Release > for the past week or two. > > I've read the handbook and various other documents concerning updating > FreeBSD only to learn that -STABLE and -CURRENT are both development > branches. Take a look at what RELENG_5 and RELENG_5_3 means. That might make it clearer for you what release you want to track. RELENG_5 gets you a stable system with developments (5.4), RELENG_5_3 will get you a stable system with important fixes (5.3) last time I looked. CURRENT is some version of 6.0 or other. The difference in a major release number might give you an idea of which you'd like to follow. I never understood those CURRENT, STABLE or WHATEVER either. But, learn about what RELENG you'll need and I think you'll be fine. There are a lot of good webpages out there, and some official documentation on what the different branches means. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:14:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:14:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA3B43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id F2BEC4983; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:14:49 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s129031; Mon, 21 Mar 05 10:14:40 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1A44856; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:14:40 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 9C57138012; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:14:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF805C002; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:14:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:14:40 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= In-Reply-To: <20050320163928.H693@antec.home> Message-ID: References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> <20050320163928.H693@antec.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-293463789-1718851445-1111396480=:5467" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xwrapper doesn't use .xinitrc, or does it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:14:51 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---293463789-1718851445-1111396480=:5467 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Mikko Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Andreas Davour wrote: > >> I have just rebuilt my system and a few things aren't as they used to be= =2E=20 >> When I try to start X with Xwrapper no xterms or other windows appear.= =20 >> Isn't Xwrapper starting the stuff in .xinitrc like "startx" used to do f= or=20 >> me (but wont do, since it no longer has the authority to do so)?? >>=20 >> Isn't there some documentation for Xwrapper somewhere? > > You want startx(1). The .xinitrc file is read by "xinit", btw. I used to start X using startx. Now it doesn't work for anybody but=20 root. Of course I can set "the bit" on the X image, but I guessed there=20 was a reason somebody invented Xwrapper. /andreas --=20 A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ---293463789-1718851445-1111396480=:5467-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEF743D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve.random@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so912249rng for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:15:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=Z3hxsZzRgeALZGsgvpH38+D57/VY1VhVwdk1j97LqSg7y7JZ2weu02+Vj2iNlM6iaQMCIlsNpD3Z/u7tsstkXvW+jog38kI6MRQqOy/En5e0XRBG6sxtyE5sc/CWmLEPMKkUbwuR1MsgmI+u6fKnXa1PziVx16qGY1etyJxLa8I= Received: by 10.38.9.58 with SMTP id 58mr4459820rni; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from roland ([66.41.116.83]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m35sm1308814rnd.2005.03.21.01.15.15; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:15:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <006101c52df6$78a39b80$9601a8c0@roland> From: "Random" To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:15:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: cpan and POE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:16 -0000 First off stats FreeBSD 4.10 Release Now to buissness, Im trying to install POE and so I go installing perl -MCPAN -eshell cpan> install POE now it does the fun scrolling then after a little bit dies on this 64 tests and 2 subtests skipped. Failed 45/125 test scripts, 64.00% okay. 454/2693 subtests failed, = 83.14% okay. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/home/.cpan/build/POE-0.3009. /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force Just curious as how to fix this or anothe way to install POE? ------------------------------- http://www.fusednetwork.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:21:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D312C16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:21:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EDF43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:21:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tiberius@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:tiberius@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2L9KoZp010308 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:20:50 GMT Received: (from tiberius@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id j2L9Ko6W022576 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:20:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:20:50 -0700 From: Matt Rechkemmer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321092050.GA19254@sdf.lonestar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Postfix partial status error in syslog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:21:07 -0000 Anyone else out there running Postfix, seeing this in their syslogs? postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes) postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes) It seems to occur during any Postfix operation, delivering mail, running a cleanup and so forth. Mail doesn't seem to be affected on my system, so I wonder if this is just some kind of debug warning (possibly)? Thanks, -- Matt Rechkemmer tiberius@trancell.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:43:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D631A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:43:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB13B43D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:43:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2L9nXEe002414 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:49:33 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA18836 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0300 Resent-Message-Id: <200503210943.MAA18836@mccme.ru> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:42:18 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050321094218.GA17563@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow Resent-From: emin@mccme.ru Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0300 Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.816 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID,SPF_HELO_PASS Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:43:18 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:54:35AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: " "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: " " > block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip " > pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate " > " > As you can see, ssh packets match to all rule and pass in because " > last rule win. Does it mean, that I can't see ssh's packet using " > command " > # pfctl -sl " " here you label the blocked packets but not the ones you pass, which " means your ssh packets would count toward the packets passed counter only. " " > And if I use " > " > block in log on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip label $ext_ip " > pass in on $ext_ip inet from any to $ext_ip port 22 keep sate label $ext_ip " > " > ... I see label twice ? " " No. But both rules would increment the $ext_ip counter, which means that " your $ext_ip counter would be essentially packet totals. Last matching " rule wins (with state instead of sate it would work), so each packet " increments the relevant counters only once. I was trying some experiments... It seems to me you are right in all except one: second line don't increase $ext_ip counter, but... add other counter with same name: # pfctl -sr | grep label block in log on $ext_if inet from any to $ext_if label $ext_if block in log quick on $ext_if inet from to $ext_if label $ext_if pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if port = ssh flags S/SA keep state label $ext_if pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if port = smtp flags S/SA keep state label $ext_if pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if port = auth flags S/SA keep state label $ext_if pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any port = ftp-data to $ext_if user = 62 flags S/SA keep state label $ext_if # pfctl -vsl rl0 48703 10 936 rl0 26095 0 0 rl0 25845 776 81479 rl0 29 25 2952 rl0 29 0 0 rl0 29 0 0 But, of course, this output is "scriptable". (I can sum this numbers in pyhon or bc) " > Perhaps you know where I can find workable example of this? " " Randal Schwartz has a nice article called "Monitoring Net Traffic with " OpenBSD's Packet Filter" at http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9053/sam0403j/0403j.htm " Thanks -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:55:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1443D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.nossin@student.tue.nl) Received: by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 0955814BDB7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:55:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin502 (dyn414.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.117]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2FD14BD5C; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:55:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: "'Martin Schweizer'" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:55:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050321053046.GB82075@saturn.pcs.ms> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUt1tY11mmSO/DzR4+dMYKfqFujBwAJNSIg Message-Id: <20050321095553.7B2FD14BD5C@pastinakel.tue.nl> X-Spam-DCC: : pastinakel.tue.nl 1074; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pastinakel.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.64 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:59 -0000 Sorry I looked over your other questions.=20 I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't = needed.=20 I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel.=20 I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation.=20 My X-version is the latest xorg.=20 I have also got jdk14 installed.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch]=20 Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31 To: Freek Nossin Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then make install? Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old.=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > To: Freek Nossin > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > >=20 > > Hello Freek > >=20 > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). = X-Version? > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > >=20 > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its = > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not = > > > even > > as > > > root with > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling=20 > > > list, but > > I > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042264. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042162. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042222. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042204. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042488. > > > html > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > November/042156. > > > html > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > > -- > >=20 > > Regards > > Gruss > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > >=20 > > Martin Schweizer > > > >=20 > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon=20 > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22;=20 > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key :=20 > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. = +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:57:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:57:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26AE43D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:57:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2L9v3b25962; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:57:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Tomas Quintero" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050321002338.GD7685@mail1.vantronix.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: RE: Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:57:10 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > hi tomas, > > > of course, my driver does not support all the proprietary and bleeding > edge features, like the binary-blob does, but everything for basic > operation is mostly done. it's the choice of the freebsd _users_ if > they want to lose their freedom to get some "features" (and pleased > manufacturers) or if they want to have free software with all of it's > benefits. > One of these days atheros will decide it's time to obsolete all those devices out there so as to attempt to get people to buy new ones. When that happens, the binary-blob won't work anymore. When that happens your driver will be the only option. > > so it's absolutely correct from theo to cc the freebsd-questions@ > mailing list because it's a _main_question_! we care about freebsd, > netbsd and even linux because this behaviour hurts the entire open > source community. more and more manufacturers are having success with > getting their binary-blobs into "free" operating systems. what next? > Such a scenario is simply not viable over the long term. The manufacturer always has to pay to write new blobs for new OS versions. Once the manufacturer decides to stop spending money writing new blobs, a decision that is inevitable, the blobs won't work any longer and the blob will go away. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 10:18:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F1316A4CE; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:18:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2CF43D31; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:18:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:198:210:4bff:fe3d:e256]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35CB1355EB; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:18:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:18:23 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-Id: <20050321111823.2154e565.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20050321035946.GH79501@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050321035946.GH79501@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.5 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__21_Mar_2005_11_18_23_+0100_Zg168VLnyFMUog+6" cc: apeiron+usenet@coitusmentis.info cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:18:42 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__21_Mar_2005_11_18_23_+0100_Zg168VLnyFMUog+6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Indeed. I do, and it blocks an amazing amount of spam. That's the wrong way to deal with spam, Greg. Greylisting and SPF checks are a much better solution. =20 > I do have the courtesy to say "please use your ISP's mail server" in > the error reply. Well, as pointed out before, that's not always possible. My ISP doesn't allow any mail with a from !=3D terra.es to pass through their mail servers. Not only that, but they will silently drop e-mail without telling you. Their POP3 server is also broken half of the time, that's why I gave up on using their mail (and dns as well) service years ago. Modulo that, the service is good enough and I've had less than a few hours of outage in 5 years, so I don't have any plans of moving to another ISP. When people reject my mail (which comes from a static IP, gpg-signed and from a host that publishes SPF records) I simply add them to my / etc/postfix/access file, so I don't waste time reading and replying to mail that won't reach its destinantion. It's that simple :) I've tried several setups to stop spam. I get about 150/day or so. I discovered that 99% of them were coming from Windows boxes. So, if you have PF you can do tricks like this: rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any os "Windows" to any port smtp -> 127.0.0.1 port 8025 And have all those mails end up in spamd's tarpit. However, this might send legit mail there, so I stopped using that too. I just let spamassassin do its job. Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Mon__21_Mar_2005_11_18_23_+0100_Zg168VLnyFMUog+6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPp9xnLctrNyFFPERAoifAJ9D01ylFEuVXb533tnMMfALXsd2IgCfcrSE zvyHyvQLjIdqV9BYYerSjEE= =9XPz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__21_Mar_2005_11_18_23_+0100_Zg168VLnyFMUog+6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 10:32:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D1116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:32:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbit.3logic.net (hobbit.3logic.net [195.38.16.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15BC643D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua) Received: (qmail 26832 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 12:32:17 +0200 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 26807, pid: 26813, t: 1.5878s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.83/m:29/d:746 spam: 2.63 Received: from du-240.3logic.net (HELO proxyplus.universe) (195.38.16.240) by hobbit.3logic.net with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 12:32:15 +0200 Received: from mobile.Upbank.kherson [10.168.0.33] by Proxy+; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:43 +0200 for Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:43 +0200 From: NetAdmin Organization: Upb X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1273176391.20050321123243@upb.ks.ua> To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on hobbit.3logic.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Subject: mounting novell drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: NetAdmin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:32:22 -0000 Hello, FreeBSD support team, I have a server with Novell Netware 5.1. How I can mount Novell drives in FreeBSD? -- Best regards, NetAdmin mailto:NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 10:43:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECA516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:43:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7743D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:43:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2LAgmTl005432; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:42:49 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2LAhJx3001598; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:43:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2LAhJB1001597; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:43:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:43:19 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ulf Magnusson Message-ID: <20050321104319.GB1373@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:43:23 -0000 On 2005-03-20 14:21, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > I'm trying to set up sendmail to route outgoing mail to an external > SMTP server. I need this for Mutt, which doesn't have its own means of > transfering mail and relies on whatever MTA the system provides. I > found out about sendmail's SMARTHOST capability and added this line to > my .mc configuration file (built by 'cd /etc/mail && make && > make install'): > > define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.liu.se') > > I then installed the changes with 'make && make install && make > restart'. Now, whenever I try to send mail from Mutt, I get back the > following failure notice: > > % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > % From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > % To: > % Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > % Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > % > % [-- Bilaga #1 --] > % [-- Typ: text/plain, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,5K --] > % > % The original message was received at Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) > % from localhost [127.0.0.1] > % > % ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > % > % (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) E-mail messages send by your local Sendmail have an envelope-from address of . The remote MTA that receives the message knows nothing about the machine called ``obygden'' and rejects the message. One way to make this work is to use address-rewriting: 1. Start by adding the following to your ``/etc/mail/obygden.mc'' file: FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) FEATURE(generics_entire_domain) FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') GENERICS_DOMAIN(`localdomain.net') Where ``localdomain.net'' is the local domain of ``obygden''. 2. Then in a file called ``genericstable'' in /etc/mail, put the following: ulf@obygden ulfma629@student.liu.se ulf@obygden.localdomain.net ulfma629@student.liu.se 3. Build a genericstable.db file and rebuild sendmail.cf: # cd /etc/mail # make # make install 4. Restart Sendmail: # cd /etc/mail # make restart You should be set to go. Now the addresses the user ``ulf'' uses locally will be rewritten by Sendmail to real addresses on their way out and the receiving SMART_HOST/MTA will be happy to forward the messages to their destination. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 11:08:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7CF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:08:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0D743D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:08:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so623291wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:08:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FUrqh0vOyfJQXToIZHbBBKoRlWw8sF2TGYGWqNTFP+F2sU7zl5ux5dTnhP5CbBMNXZYuHr2y83zDO9kKrq80tv/PpJfNS/UirkRdFRfwfIiyjZ+xyBVyQyY8gTVuGbjemlvL9IydUUbTeNlzmYUjR1hW5J5HEyRuD+8Sp3WyTZk= Received: by 10.54.42.23 with SMTP id p23mr7065wrp; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.8 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf05032103083bd762dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:08:24 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: NetAdmin In-Reply-To: <1273176391.20050321123243@upb.ks.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1273176391.20050321123243@upb.ks.ua> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting novell drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:08:25 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:43 +0200, NetAdmin wrote: > Hello, FreeBSD support team, > > I have a server with Novell Netware 5.1. > How I can mount Novell drives in FreeBSD? > I have never done it but I see that there is a man page for it: MOUNT_NWFS(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual MOUNT_NWFS(8) DESCRIPTION The mount_nwfs utility allows to mount volume from a NetWare server. It may use either existing connection or create new: if no usable connection was found it will try to establish a new one. Connection has count of references to it, so when last mount will be dismounted connection will be closed. It is possible to create connection without any mounts (but use it for them) with ncplogin(1). see man 8 mount_nwfs > Best regards, > NetAdmin mailto:NetAdmin@upb.ks.ua > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 11:36:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCA116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D372E43D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:36:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from intel69@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so903132wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:36:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UMUI32RjmDgwhSB1KGjTNSkYubpAkMGyXKxba97DDiHjKebWXiHHQo+a+nGAaJ5hR0prv9BmvKfYz/E9rBRqTygQEzsjpXpOlKsFG/NM+/qajy7fLW/gr6eNlKoSXzq8p3fkIyVzKDI3khLGi+jortvWlkT89WtezWKUc2IHcmQ= Received: by 10.54.45.26 with SMTP id s26mr2856251wrs; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.45.67 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:36:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:36:44 -0400 From: Intel69 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing FreeBSD on Windows/Linux Shared Enviroment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Intel69 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:36:45 -0000 Hi, I was wondering, I am about to setup a computer I have to run Windows XP, Ubuntu and FreeBSD. I wanted to know if it was possible to run FreeBSD and Linux on the same computer. If I can, do I have to partition my disk in 3 parts? I have a 80Gb IDE that came with the dell... would be like 28Gb to each partition. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 11:56:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC8F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:56:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from netbox.yi.org (216.23.59.224.nw.nuvox.net [216.23.59.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B8543D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:56:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from exp@netbox.yi.org) Received: from netbox.yi.org (netbox.yi.org [127.0.0.1]) by netbox.yi.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LBuPXj004977; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:56:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from exp@netbox.yi.org) Received: (from exp@localhost) by netbox.yi.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2LBuPOS004976; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:56:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from exp) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:56:24 -0500 From: exp@netbox.yi.org To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20050321115624.GB63460@netbox.yi.org> References: <20050321000634.GA40655@thought.org> <20050321010827.GA47036@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321010827.GA47036@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: swhat do I add to GENERIC to get /dev/dsp? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:56:27 -0000 On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 05:08:27PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 04:06:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > I just installed xmms. It tries and fails to open /dev/dsp. > > I'm using the builtin i815 sound chipset. "AC97" is it? > > Anybody know what to add to my kernel config file? > > > > thanks, people, > > > > I could've sworn that in dmesg there was something about the > AC97; now I find that it is a pci0. On-board. According > to the conf/NOTES file, I need to use snd_ich. > > gary kline, relying to his own post.... > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you're using 5.x, this device should automatically be created when the sound card module is loaded. In your case, snd_ich. If you're using 4.x, check the sound card section of the handbook to find out how to make the appropriate device nodes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:16:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3514916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:16:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B80843D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2LCGBBM076531 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:16:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:14:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Intel's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:36:44 -0400") Message-ID: <86ll8hdwm8.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on Windows/Linux Shared Enviroment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:16:23 -0000 Intel69 writes: > I was wondering, I am about to setup a computer I have to run Windows > XP, Ubuntu and FreeBSD. FreeBSD and all Linuxes I've ever encountered come with installers which acknowledge the fact that other operating systems exist and makes some effort at making things work. Most of the docs out there if I remember correctly assume a double-boot setup, but with a little bit of planning, you should be able to triple-boot fine. You will need to partition at least three slices, and install Windows before the others in order to avoid having the Windows installer wipe out stuff it does not understand. There are several howtos out there within search engine reach which will be helpful. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B7A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay4.aport.ru (relay4.aport.ru [194.67.18.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9089243D5C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hlopch@email.ru) Received: (qmail 8257 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 12:32:02 -0000 Received: from ts2-b225.ufa.dial.rol.ru ([194.186.127.225]) (envelope-sender ) by relay4.aport.ru for ; 21 Mar 2005 12:32:02 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:31:51 +0300 From: Wen X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional Organization: Tetragrammaton X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <22922460.20050321173151@email.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Questions about X Window system (FreeBSD 5.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Wen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:32:05 -0000 Hello. My name is Paul and i am from Russia, Ufa city. I am a student. I recently have bought operational system FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. But appeared, that items of adjustment X Window have been removed from the program of adjustment SYSINSTALL system and adjustment Desktop managers. How now to adjust X Window and Desktop managers. If not it is difficult, explain please. -------------------------------- Yours faithfully Paul Michailov. mailto:hlopch@email.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:34:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C3F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:34:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA27743D58 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:34:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glyn@nowhere.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B291350F7 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:34:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26785-01-95 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:34:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from glynthebearded.millingtons.org (unknown [82.152.120.109]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAA1135208 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:12:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5EE6C79D7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:25:41 +0000 (GMT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050321092050.GA19254@sdf.lonestar.org> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday of Holy Week: Monday of Holy Week, A.D. 2005 From: Glyn Millington Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:25:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20050321092050.GA19254@sdf.lonestar.org> (Matt Rechkemmer's message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:20:50 -0700") Message-ID: <87sm2p424a.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEXWkYmULB0TBwepOiqD KBs+GhWcMSKvaWH40smuSTtD6WtIAAACN0lEQVQ4jV3TQaujMBAA4Ny0x/L6/AFCf8DDR8Bj6UTx uJIs7LEoWXrz4NusN48eC8qT/NudSWIrGyht53NmkmnKsrA+hFIS3ujjnFn7l+3iSooLfrRzliPw xgHFFQA0SW59hoeTjy9QwNVBxzjFuSsEtAS4Hg/f45uqWGuGQSh53cGnLObVMFwHoYo9wMpYPOFi vZL6BafChxEi2toToGQ+Po1swPYbcHiEBEwZlh9zblcHH1X3gmi5POGzfMEY9YWD5n9gA2VYD9U+ Yyie0FaG7UrhiBE0wnthtnMgLPCEE5jOnXxkI57wQjNhCY73JA2uDp/GeUVQZBu00vyBvqT6xkOG oGmGxprIxKObr5xnlA1o5vGIXeJDOcwNZmitGwSMRwTTdCgPAXiTQ8diZgJ0HpIAE0HsAEvlBFo7 GDsH42EdeOIydMOxxzTSrlyP4fstd801p588sl3UYUZfznyDG/zu8BaUSxkjrAi0K66Tm6g6I+jG PaZxsR4afTueFJje3cNyiuA+c+3O0QJezztIuLdQMSOqOXNwgzqlf4C0xtjF9Bs0rUpTFFXZ1ZjB CnXNfIaoAyxwNwOWDXCiOBG2LkyPT/zkWdJkrE0D0N8DC9WpTPgR4T3AmVIA4+kZbgRiD0K55OMl CXCuEXDLSoV2CHUA2phS7luN7ZoAil4Ozr7sZQN/GEoMm2ehs3ruwb/JJ4QntyfUBsLVVyD9IOoA WFOuAn8VAWFCaYDzL6B7/SW/6tTTP146W63Z0ANuAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk Subject: Re: Postfix partial status error in syslog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:34:21 -0000 Matt Rechkemmer writes: > Anyone else out there running Postfix, seeing this in their syslogs? > postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes) > postfix/master[83222]: warning: master_status_event: partial status (4 bytes) > > It seems to occur during any Postfix operation, delivering mail, running a > cleanup and so forth. Mail doesn't seem to be affected on my system, so I > wonder if this is just some kind of debug warning (possibly)? Hi Matt, This thread might shed a little consolatory light? http://tinyurl.com/6b4vj hth Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:35:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7C316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:35:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AE843D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:35:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alias3@crotchett.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LCZKd5019499 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:35:20 -0600 Message-ID: <423EBF85.60500@crotchett.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:35:17 -0600 From: backdoc User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> In-Reply-To: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:35:21 -0000 Additional info. I started sshd with -ddd. It is definitely hanging on the line: "Trying to reverse map address 192.168.1.102." Now, I'm not sure how to fix that. BTW, I do have VerifyReverseMapping set to "NO" in sshd_config. But, that seems to be being ignored. Any suggestions? darren darren wrote: > I could use some help troubleshooting a problem that I am having with > long delays before receiving a password prompt when I log onto my > FreeBSD box via ssh. > > I have done quite a bit of googling and I realize that the problem > likely has something to do with reverse DNS lookups. But, I don't know > how to pinpoint the problem from there. I've basically been playing > with the /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts settings. In my hosts file, I > have an entry for the private IP of my Linux box with its hostname > (which is not a FQDN) and my resolv.conf file looks like: > > domain myrealdomain.com //I just added this, but no noticeable help > search myrealdomain.com > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers2 > > Here's a more detailed explanation of the problem. To me, the problem > seems very peculiar. The problem only exists whenever I use my laptop > (which is running Linux) from within my own LAN. I can get around it > by logging onto my ISP's server or my school's server (either one) and > then logging back into my FreeBSD box from there. If I am at school > with my laptop, I can even log into my FreeBSD server at home directly > without a delay. But, if I try going directly to my FreeBSD box from my > laptop when they are both inside the LAN, I get a very long delay (like > 3 minutes). Sometimes the delay is so long, the connection times out > and I never get a prompt. > > I have set the logging level up to DEBUG3 in the /etc/sshd_config file. > But, I don't see where any verbose output is going. > > This problem is on FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE. > > TIA, > backdoc > > The /var/log/auth.log file just says: > ... fatal: Timeout before authentication for 192...... > > Here's what my laptop spits out before the long delay kicks in. > > root@laptop:/home/backdoc # ssh -vl backdoc 192.168.1.4 > OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug1: Applying options for * > debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.4 [192.168.1.4] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0 > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version > OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 > debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 pat OpenSSH* > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY > debug1: Host '192.168.1.4' is known and matches the DSA host key. > debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:1 > debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host285.ipowerweb.com (host285.ipowerweb.com [66.235.211.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8791143D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@owlpeople.com) Received: (qmail 71977 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 12:59:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host285.ipowerweb.com) (127.0.0.1) by host285.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 12:59:44 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: AtMail Corp 3.61 - http://webbasedemail.com/ X-Origin: 65.33.53.238 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:59:42 Message-Id: <20050321125953.8791143D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: find command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:59:55 -0000 Need "find" binary for FREE BSD 4.9 - REL p11 Need to place this command on a remote server for a cron script to function. Please reply to bsd@owlpeople.com (Alan) Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:05:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D5F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:05:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A79043D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 578354 for multiple; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:05:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <27a1d5a88e4eb9a64f37a99964086d18@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:05:25 -0500 To: Duo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:05:36 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Duo wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Duo writes: >> >>> And yes, looking for non MS solutions, for the sake of it, is a valid >>> choice. >> >> Not for many corporate managers. They don't care whether it's >> Microsoft >> or not, as long as it's the best tool for the job. People don't >> usually >> reach the upper levels of management in large corporations by >> indulging >> emotional attachments to one vendor or another. >> > > To extrapolate your mickey mouse attempt at diversion, lets use how > you would respond to this: YOU KNOW EVERY SINGLE CORPORATE MANAGER IN > THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD? > > Who's talking emotion? Nobody mentioned feelings here but you. Bottom > line is, other competitive software dosent get better, without a user > base to use, offer feedback, etc. He's working from the assumption that the only reason you wouldn't choose this superior product (Exchange/Outlook) is because of the MS logo on the box, which if true, is foolish. I'd agree on that point; if, after analyzing different products and licenses Exchange/Outlook fit the bill of a solution for you and the only reason you didn't use it was the company, it is technically foolish do discount it. If, on the other hand, there are adequate alternatives available for your situation that fit your needs, it would be foolish to go with Exchange/Outlook. >>> If for instance, I go with a product of MS, as opposed to a smaller >>> OSS project, the OSS Project typically *cares* about the feedback I >>> give it. It cares about the features I want and need. >> >> So does Microsoft. That's how it stays on top. Not really...why should they care if you're not a major company? You're not supplying the coffers as much as, say, a school system is, if you're just some home user. > So, because cockroaches are more successful, are they above humans? Actually, it depends on your criteria...in terms of successful reproduction and survival of a species, I'd think the numbers speak for themselves. If you're talking about something like the ability to drive a car or write a term paper, no. >> I'd tend to prefer to put antivirus stuff on the client, not on the >> server. Some users may not want their e-mail scanned for viruses. >> Power users, in particular, may not want any virus protections at all, >> since they know not to click on attachments and antivirus software all >> too often hashes the very system it's supposed to protect. >> >>> What's more, the virus scanners that do run against Exchange's DB, >>> also cost money, and typically require some more hardware. And >>> overhead. So now I am running exchange, and a bevy of other stuff to >>> prop it up. >> >> You don't have to run virus scanners. >> > > I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon virus > scans mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly infect > their system. Most users prefer the choice be taken out of their hands. To do otherwise makes them think. People don't like to think about what isn't in their realm of interest. >>> Not quite the "same" featureset as Exchange, but, I am supporting >>> developers who *care* about what I want. >> >> Microsoft cares, too, and many changes and features in Exchange were >> driven by customer demand. Companies that don't care go out of >> business. >> > > This is such a foolish statement, I cant even find the words. How about, "Tell that to my cell phone provider"? > Nothing. And, you know what? I get more than I paid for. I use > CensorNet, a free proxy web cache package. FREE, is it perfect? no, > but its getting there. I use both mdaemon, and postfix. Are they > perfect? No, but they are getting there. > > Point is, at least I am supporting their work, instead of a company > that has shown itself to be a most reprehensible player in the > standards field. Actually some open-sourcers get paid in pride. It's a sense of pride that keeps them working on "their" project. Sometimes it's recognition. Not everyone does something just because the manager will lash them if they don't meet the deadline...in many cases, such software from a corporate culture is a piece of crap because it is designed by committee and politics are added in the mix to take what could have been good and turned the product into technical crud. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:12:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA9116A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:12:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4943D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 579024 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:11:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1297045482.20050321051029@wanadoo.fr> References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> <1297045482.20050321051029@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:11:57 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:12:00 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 11:10 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Duo writes: > >> And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly >> stagnant. > > If it does the job, it doesn't have to change. Then why new versions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:15:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C0243D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557313C5AA for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:15:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:15:11 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 49939 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Mar 2005 13:14:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 13:14:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:14:54 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Theo de Raadt In-Reply-To: <200503200327.j2K3Rdl8023802@cvs.openbsd.org> Message-ID: <20050321140612.J49145@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <200503200327.j2K3Rdl8023802@cvs.openbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:14 -0000 * Theo de Raadt [2005-03-19 20:27 -0700] > We do it all the time! > > We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some > other developer, maybe even Bill Paul from FreeBSD > (Mr. Ethernet)... anyways, people like that.. ) explain the business > case to the vendor. > > They almost always understand, and then give us documentation. > > Sometimes they open the documentation wide up! Seems to me that you need to get in contact with the stock holders of these companies. I do not know too much about the USA, but in Norway everyone who owns (any number of) stock in any public company, have a legal right to attend the general assembly that such companies are legally bound to organize every year. As a stock holder you hva ethe right to both speak at the general assembly and to propose a case trialed and to demand a issue to be considered and dealt with. Why not buy exactly one (1) stock in each and every hardware company there is in the USA? Show up, speak to the audience (the other stock holders), and have your case heard. Also, the stock holder register is probably also open to the public, which mean you could contact each and every one of the other stock holders and let them hear your case. I am sure Adaptec (or any other company) would want to listen to their owners. But then again; what do I know about business? Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:48:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E1316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E00F43D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:48:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFF969A40; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:48:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:48:50 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: backdoc Message-Id: <20050321084850.4a789fcb.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <423EBF85.60500@crotchett.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EBF85.60500@crotchett.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:48:52 -0000 backdoc wrote: > > Additional info. > > I started sshd with -ddd. It is definitely hanging on the line: > "Trying to reverse map address 192.168.1.102." > > Now, I'm not sure how to fix that. BTW, I do have VerifyReverseMapping > set to "NO" in sshd_config. But, that seems to be being ignored. I think that sshd attempts to require a RDNS entry in any case, but only with VerifyReverseMapping set to YES does it actually check to see if the result makes sense. Sounds to me like you need to enter PTR records for your IP range. See the docs for whatever DNS server you're using. > > Any suggestions? > darren > > > darren wrote: > > I could use some help troubleshooting a problem that I am having with > > long delays before receiving a password prompt when I log onto my > > FreeBSD box via ssh. > > > > I have done quite a bit of googling and I realize that the problem > > likely has something to do with reverse DNS lookups. But, I don't know > > how to pinpoint the problem from there. I've basically been playing > > with the /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts settings. In my hosts file, I > > have an entry for the private IP of my Linux box with its hostname > > (which is not a FQDN) and my resolv.conf file looks like: > > > > domain myrealdomain.com //I just added this, but no noticeable help > > search myrealdomain.com > > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers > > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers2 > > > > Here's a more detailed explanation of the problem. To me, the problem > > seems very peculiar. The problem only exists whenever I use my laptop > > (which is running Linux) from within my own LAN. I can get around it > > by logging onto my ISP's server or my school's server (either one) and > > then logging back into my FreeBSD box from there. If I am at school > > with my laptop, I can even log into my FreeBSD server at home directly > > without a delay. But, if I try going directly to my FreeBSD box from my > > laptop when they are both inside the LAN, I get a very long delay (like > > 3 minutes). Sometimes the delay is so long, the connection times out > > and I never get a prompt. > > > > I have set the logging level up to DEBUG3 in the /etc/sshd_config file. > > But, I don't see where any verbose output is going. > > > > This problem is on FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE. > > > > TIA, > > backdoc > > > > The /var/log/auth.log file just says: > > ... fatal: Timeout before authentication for 192...... > > > > Here's what my laptop spits out before the long delay kicks in. > > > > root@laptop:/home/backdoc # ssh -vl backdoc 192.168.1.4 > > OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004 > > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > > debug1: Applying options for * > > debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.4 [192.168.1.4] port 22. > > debug1: Connection established. > > debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0 > > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1 > > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > > debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version > > OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 > > debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 FreeBSD-20030924 pat OpenSSH* > > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2 > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > > debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > > debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent > > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent > > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY > > debug1: Host '192.168.1.4' is known and matches the DSA host key. > > debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:1 > > debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:53:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCC916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:53:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0907C43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D87369A42; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:53:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:53:03 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Wen Message-Id: <20050321085303.3ff68913.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <22922460.20050321173151@email.ru> References: <22922460.20050321173151@email.ru> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Questions about X Window system (FreeBSD 5.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:53:06 -0000 Wen wrote: > Hello. > > My name is Paul and i am from Russia, Ufa city. I am a student. > I recently have bought operational system FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. > But appeared, that items of adjustment X Window have been removed from the program > of adjustment SYSINSTALL system and adjustment Desktop managers. > How now to adjust X Window and Desktop managers. If not it is difficult, > explain please. See the FreeBSD handbook section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/x11.html Sometimes the translated versions aren't as up to date as the English version, so it may be worthwhile to look at the English version as well: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:06:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1D416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:06:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4E043D5E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:06:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ECC60E7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:06:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83133-06; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:06:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5CD60E4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:06:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <423ED4ED.8010200@makeworld.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:06:37 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bart Silverstrim References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> <1297045482.20050321051029@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:06:31 -0000 Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2005, at 11:10 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Duo writes: >> >>> And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly >>> stagnant. >> >> >> If it does the job, it doesn't have to change. > > > Then why new versions? Why does this list even care? Why does the list allow the like of Anthony? Afterall, all he does is fan the flames of aggression. Also noted, he does not bring anything to the table for this list. So far he has demonstrated that he's unwilling to test his hardware, yet quick to blame the OS (in this case, FBSD). I ask the list moderator - please remove the issue at hand. As mentioned by many foks here - searching Google on this guy proves many things. I'll let you all make up you mind as to what that is. My mind has been made up weeks ago, yet he still manages to stirr up refuse. And the thing is, our folks here know better. But the vile things that come from one user seems to always enrage others. Please - remove the issue at hand. -- Best regards, Chris People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:32:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152F716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (sneezy.bossbox.com [213.228.255.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E6543D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:32:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from sneezy.bossbox.com (localhost.bossbox.com [127.0.0.1]) by sneezy.bossbox.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2LEUwqL022679; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:58 GMT (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Received: from localhost (brian@localhost)j2LEUvqG022676; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:57 GMT (envelope-from brian@sneezy.bossbox.com) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:57 +0000 (GMT) From: "Brian O'Regan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321140010.S22611@sneezy.bossbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: brian@bossbox.com Subject: FreeBSD and the FastT200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:32:32 -0000 Hi, Almost 3 TB's of disk array has fallen into my hands which is a nice suprise on a Monday morning. it's a IBM Fibre Array FAStT 200 The not so nice suprise was I can only find software for Red Hat and SuSE. So my question is, is there anyone using one of these to servce disk space to FreeBSD clients? Cheers Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:36:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B8A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:36:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E3943D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1244410wra for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dizO9sJA07zdPzCIvxANme7nghsmDv2OBWWfvR0jaAjS9pH4mI6CQttNnGek0fqdrnHSoT8bk1j4zffvmhkXTBBrQM96XRHwGZuHlXQNaKz0fC3Lv+f0AankFoeBhI3aSo+5qQ1X37Y0V+e31PD/mbzTjtyYs/iQ+ZOfXiuFk+8= Received: by 10.54.30.77 with SMTP id d77mr416945wrd; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:35:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:35:41 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> Subject: Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:36:14 -0000 > I have done quite a bit of googling and I realize that the problem > likely has something to do with reverse DNS lookups. But, I don't know > how to pinpoint the problem from there. I've basically been playing > with the /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts settings. In my hosts file, I > have an entry for the private IP of my Linux box with its hostname > (which is not a FQDN) and my resolv.conf file looks like: > > domain myrealdomain.com //I just added this, but no noticeable help > search myrealdomain.com > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers > nameserver my.ip's.dns.numbers2 > [SNIP] > TIA, > backdoc > If that is your resolv.conf, then that explains some things. Your box is looking at the ISP for name resolution and the ISP has no idea (nor could care) what your internal LAN address space is. Change the resolv.conf to look at itself (127.0.0.1) and setup BIND with some simple DNS and RDNS records. You could use pretty much any box on your network for DNS, but the key is that it has to know about the internal space. GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:50:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAB616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mitchell.homeunix.org (69-173-143-29.agstme.adelphia.net [69.173.143.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3177343D5A for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Received: from mitchell.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mitchell.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LEoQiJ095274 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Received: (from jmitchell@localhost) by mitchell.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2LEoPJD095273 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:24 -0500 From: John Mitchell To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321145024.GA82791@mitchell.homeunix.org> References: <1111383091l.18081l.0l@BARTON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1111383091l.18081l.0l@BARTON> X-Uptime: 9:48AM up 15:23, 8 users, load averages: 4.46, 4.17, 3.65 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: wine can't read a cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:50:30 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This one time, at band camp, Jason Henson wrote: > $ wine c:/Program\ Files/Starcraft/starcraft.exe > fixme:file:get_default_drive_device auto detection of DOS devices not =20 > supported on this platform > fixme:cdrom:CDROM_GetInterfaceInfo not implemented for BSD > fixme:ntdll:NtQueryVolumeInformationFile device info not properly =20 > supported on this platform > err:heap:HEAP_CreateSystemHeap system heap base address 0x80000000 not = =20 > available > $ >=20 Warcraft does the same thing. --=20 A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works. --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFCPt8wHX6mVs6LyroRAv09AJ9IUTZZX0TrTXUvOpq2BNxhUky3+gCVGQFT pF24OObKvj47lAws9wBZqQ== =VjOi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:00:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB46716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564D443D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so825933rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:00:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OOLWFS+rsRqErVYPoUloXxEqbFTYTygNEDjGmCJPA5ZIDeeDtWiMW9WIX6mjWGaMOyWNthth7TMRdstpnPeh6EG6FoNdP4aSonRorOC/ZCNy9oxllR3m6MNJeHnFTGtiYgv7gcmyXWTOyMKBkhbMVlAw3HeNaepmCH/elZQld9A= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr4671228rnj; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:00:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:35 -0500 From: Danny To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:37 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > > Atkielski > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > > > > > If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must > > restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes > > frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). > > Only if you purchase a backup software. You are totally 100% wrong. NTBackup is included with Windows, and is fully supported by Microsoft. > If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange because windows > backup will not back up open files. Wrong. Have you bothered to read Microsoft's Exchange Backup & Restore Guide? > Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store in one fell swoop, > it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) individual mailboxes. Once again, obviously you are not aware of the features present in version 2003. > This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written > to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. Wrong, again. One word: NTBackup. Regardless of the free backup software included with Windows, if you have been mis-informed and think that you *need* 3rd party backup software, well, the Exchange backup agents are a couple of hundred dollars. Pretty cheap when you consider the value of corporate email these days -- but like I say, they are not necessary; read the Exchange Backup & Restore Guide. > By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail > directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox > if you want to. Yup, but you do not know Exchange, so stop talking about it. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:08:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:08:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC7743D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hal.larsen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1258766wra for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=crXsRMSqqHXTkGHrjZgVmo2wWgBp2r/gezjUY/xSPRxlwv0CARt3Je6h+2zvMKmRBCy/mIYsiRZlnfpBMBNzSA3e5QmqiplGY+YmCTEKLpaf5eQxnOvbV7Q3A9DinGx7BSgzNcFt4Dq+N1CMnibmmoIy0hOnlGiZFvuVSyQclbk= Received: by 10.54.23.69 with SMTP id 69mr243187wrw; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.67.14 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:08:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1f3db6cb05032107086a1ccd38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:08:35 -0500 From: Hal Larsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Can't start x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hal Larsen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:08:39 -0000 Installed xorg and get this error message: #startx [code] Fatal server error: Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. giving up. xinit: Operation timed out (errno 60): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. [/code] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FAD16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EB043D5E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B4F60F3; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83460-08; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 35E8060E7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246DF60E4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: Danny In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050321091411.H83638@makeworld.com> References: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:17 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Danny wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony >>> Atkielski >>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? >>> >> >>> If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must >>> restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes >>> frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). >> >> Only if you purchase a backup software. > > You are totally 100% wrong. NTBackup is included with Windows, and is > fully supported by Microsoft. > >> If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange because windows >> backup will not back up open files. > > Wrong. Have you bothered to read Microsoft's Exchange Backup & Restore Guide? > >> Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store in one fell swoop, >> it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) individual mailboxes. > > Once again, obviously you are not aware of the features present in version 2003. > >> This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written >> to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. > > Wrong, again. One word: NTBackup. Regardless of the free backup > software included with Windows, if you have been mis-informed and > think that you *need* 3rd party backup software, well, the Exchange > backup agents are a couple of hundred dollars. Pretty cheap when you > consider the value of corporate email these days -- but like I say, > they are not necessary; read the Exchange Backup & Restore Guide. > >> By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail >> directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox >> if you want to. > > Yup, but you do not know Exchange, so stop talking about it. > > ...D NTBackup won't restore brick level Best Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:15:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486D916A4D1 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7178443D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j2LFFOES036174 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:24 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 165 Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (galois1.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.116])j2LFFJ2s032194 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j2LFFJW8021202 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:19 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois1.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j2LFFJvT021201 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:19 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:19 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321151519.GC17032@math.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:24 +0100 (CET) X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 423EE50C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr Subject: Why acroread 5 --> 7 --> 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:15:27 -0000 Hi all Why the acroread change version ? Last Monday : acroread --> acroread 5_10 Midle of last week : acroread --> acroread 7 end of last week : acroread --> acroread 5 Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Mon Mar 21 16:13:50 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:19:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51E516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:19:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641D343D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:19:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1011025rng for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:19:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bKeuZ/tJNvyUod9+Wd7XWsNWcJyNzotLmAlX33EC7vm9t2Ebky3Kp2AzBQih2SMafqVU7osz+N9yWebizQl67A2yvXzHNfPAAiBhSa7wMxWZI9ht5DYDlPxLW6Nl0E8C19FsexAKr4Rga6REoLKghWdpa8/DekG+DzTHzWXDXMY= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr4666362rnd; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.22.7 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:19:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:19:31 -0500 From: Danny To: RacerX In-Reply-To: <20050321091411.H83638@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> <20050321091411.H83638@makeworld.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:19:33 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST), RacerX wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Danny wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt > > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > >>> Atkielski > >>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM > >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >>> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? > >>> > >> > >>> If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must > >>> restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes > >>> frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). > >> > >> Only if you purchase a backup software. > > > > You are totally 100% wrong. NTBackup is included with Windows, and is > > fully supported by Microsoft. > > > >> If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange because windows > >> backup will not back up open files. > > > > Wrong. Have you bothered to read Microsoft's Exchange Backup & Restore Guide? > > > >> Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store in one fell swoop, > >> it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) individual mailboxes. > > > > Once again, obviously you are not aware of the features present in version 2003. > > > >> This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written > >> to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. > > > > Wrong, again. One word: NTBackup. Regardless of the free backup > > software included with Windows, if you have been mis-informed and > > think that you *need* 3rd party backup software, well, the Exchange > > backup agents are a couple of hundred dollars. Pretty cheap when you > > consider the value of corporate email these days -- but like I say, > > they are not necessary; read the Exchange Backup & Restore Guide. > > > >> By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail > >> directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox > >> if you want to. > > > > Yup, but you do not know Exchange, so stop talking about it. > > > > ...D > > NTBackup won't restore brick level Well, for brick level you would use ExMerge -- another free tool from Microsoft. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:43:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D1916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from reiche.trumpetpower.com (reiche.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE8943D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@trumpetpower.com) Received: from [65.39.81.114] (doc.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.114]) (authenticated bits=0)j2LFh3QI021322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:43:03 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--31413984" Message-Id: <536aaddc7ccf28f11841b92275a4a868@trumpetpower.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Goren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:42:51 -0700 To: Siju George X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Doug Richardson is (probably) back online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--31413984 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2005 Mar 20, at 10:59 PM, Siju George wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:13 -0700, Ben Goren > wrote: > >> http://www.bartleby.com/141/ > > Thankyou so much for the link Ben :)))))) You're welcome. If English isn't your native language, it's worth noting that a (*very* little) bit of his advice is slightly archaic. ``To-day'' is no longer hyphenated; ``dependable'' is now an acceptable synonym for ``reliable'' and ``trustworthy.'' The heart of this short work, however, is the second part. Read that; then write your letters to Mr. Richardson . The fat lady has yet to sing. Cheers, b& --Apple-Mail-1--31413984 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCPuuBpxyAy2XznCMRAlAnAJ0Z+utFhE3P4FUMd6yB9PVpwxzdcgCeK2P+ fg5eqmwIhBud6b/D8ld4rIM= =Cg2g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1--31413984-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:43:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F5816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5CA43D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 25277 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 15:43:14 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2005 15:43:14 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D60C824; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:43:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: shih@math.jussieu.fr References: <20050321151519.GC17032@math.jussieu.fr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Mar 2005 10:43:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050321151519.GC17032@math.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <44ll8hhunk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why acroread 5 --> 7 --> 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:43:15 -0000 Albert Shih writes: > Why the acroread change version ? > > Last Monday : acroread --> acroread 5_10 > Midle of last week : acroread --> acroread 7 > end of last week : acroread --> acroread 5 There is now a separate acroread7 port. See the commit messages. E.g., http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/acroread/distinfo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:50:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E7D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:50:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A6743D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:50:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B3E60F3; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83700-04; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AF17960E7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B93F60E4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:50:41 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: Danny In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050321094941.U83779@makeworld.com> References: <1029409489.20050320082843@wanadoo.fr> <20050321091411.H83638@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:50:53 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Danny wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:15:06 -0600 (CST), RacerX wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Danny wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony >>>>> Atkielski >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM >>>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you must >>>>> restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator takes >>>>> frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). >>>> >>>> Only if you purchase a backup software. >>> >>> You are totally 100% wrong. NTBackup is included with Windows, and is >>> fully supported by Microsoft. >>> >>>> If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange because windows >>>> backup will not back up open files. >>> >>> Wrong. Have you bothered to read Microsoft's Exchange Backup & Restore Guide? >>> >>>> Also, a file based backup is pointless because it takes the mail store in one fell swoop, >>>> it does not back up (nor allow you to restore) individual mailboxes. >>> >>> Once again, obviously you are not aware of the features present in version 2003. >>> >>>> This is yet another high-cost item, backup software that is written >>>> to use the hooks in exchange to back it up is expensive. >>> >>> Wrong, again. One word: NTBackup. Regardless of the free backup >>> software included with Windows, if you have been mis-informed and >>> think that you *need* 3rd party backup software, well, the Exchange >>> backup agents are a couple of hundred dollars. Pretty cheap when you >>> consider the value of corporate email these days -- but like I say, >>> they are not necessary; read the Exchange Backup & Restore Guide. >>> >>>> By contrast under UNIX, you can use tar to backup the /var/mail >>>> directories and you can definitely restore an individual mailbox >>>> if you want to. >>> >>> Yup, but you do not know Exchange, so stop talking about it. >>> >>> ...D >> >> NTBackup won't restore brick level > > Well, for brick level you would use ExMerge -- another free tool from Microsoft. > > ...D > In any event - we're not here to argue what apps can do what for Exchange. The OP wanted an alternative - he got several that I posted. Now, this thread needs to end here. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:55:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215E116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD57743D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:49 +0000 Message-ID: <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:12 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 15:55:49.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[73ED44F0:01C52E2E] Subject: Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:15 -0000 Gary Smithe wrote: >If that is your resolv.conf, then that explains some things. Your box >is looking at the ISP for name resolution and the ISP has no idea (nor >could care) what your internal LAN address space is. Change the >resolv.conf to look at itself (127.0.0.1) and setup BIND with some >simple DNS and RDNS records. You could use pretty much any box on >your network for DNS, but the key is that it has to know about the >internal space. > > Or fix your /etc/host.conf to lookup in files first and then use DNS, then put your local network in /etc/hosts. Much simpler for a small network. E.g. /etc/host.conf # First try the /etc/hosts file hosts # Now try the nameserver next. bind And /etc/hosts 192.168.0.1 myhost Then leave resolv.conf alone. It will be used for anything not in your local hosts file. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:00:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0305316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D049043D6E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD2B60F3 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83700-06 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D6E160E7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9C960E4 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:00:10 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:17 -0000 Anthony - I'm curious - with the issues you are having with the drives (SCSI I think you mentioned) have you considered these ideas? 1. Upgrade the system BIOS 2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller 3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider doing so and see if this "may" correct your issues. Of course, this means gathering the files and makeing proper disketts (if required) - but I assume you know that. Just a thought. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:00:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BF716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE3443D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:01:09 +0000 Message-ID: <423EEFA0.8050603@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:32 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5fee5e300503171343c23d444@mail.gmail.com> <4f99d14adb78f34dc085cb3a921a7a54@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4f99d14adb78f34dc085cb3a921a7a54@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 16:01:09.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[32B48880:01C52E2F] Subject: Re: make buildworld errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:00:34 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > Actually, if the compile crashes out at different points, that's > almost a sure sign of a hardware issue, most probably overheating. If > you were just running the system as a network router before, that > involves so little load that you wouldn't stress anything, but > building world is a good stress test and marginal cooling will show > symptoms like what you've described. > I've seen something similar on a Linux box when it was the memory at fault. But definitely hardware! --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:08:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4353D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81006.mail.yahoo.com (web81006.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A631F43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:08:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050321160821.30700.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.90.100.209] by web81006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:08:21 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:08:21 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Missing pam_winbind.so with Samba/Winbind X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:08:22 -0000 Hello, I recently compiled Samba with the options --with-winbind and appear to be missing two files needed. These two files are pam_winbind.so and pam_pwdb.so any suggestions how to build them manually? I tried to do a make /nsswitch/pam_winbind.so but it fails. I tried with two different sources from samba.org with the same result. Thanks, JP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:11:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (smtpclu-6.eunet.yu [194.247.192.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79C843D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:11:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from averoes@EUnet.yu) Received: from [213.240.14.217] (P-14.217.EUnet.yu [213.240.14.217]) by smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LGBrKR013230 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:11:53 +0100 Message-ID: <423EF24C.8000309@eunet.yu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:11:56 +0100 From: slavko User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scan: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-Spam-Checker: EUnet-AVAS-Milter X-AVAS-Spam-Score: -4.9 X-AVAS-Spam-Symbols: BAYES_00 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:11:58 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:13:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF0816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:13:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29DA43D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:13:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDPKN-0004kh-VP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:00:29 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:00:27 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:00:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <006101c52df6$78a39b80$9601a8c0@roland> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cpan and POE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:13:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Random scribbled these curious markings: > First off stats > FreeBSD 4.10 Release > Now to buissness, Im trying to install POE and so I go installing > perl -MCPAN -eshell > cpan> install POE Why not use the Ports Collection? ${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-POE Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPu4Bk/lo7zvzJioRAtPmAJ9MjSNYe9alpftKiOUBvblnjDDQXgCbBdeQ mP+NxQXOlBtmvD+oE56bfFA= =HliJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:21:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F0016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A762D43D5E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDPTq-0006MA-Tf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:10:14 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:10:14 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:10:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20050321151519.GC17032@math.jussieu.fr> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why acroread 5 --> 7 --> 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:21:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Albert Shih scribbled these curious markings: > Hi all > > Why the acroread change version ? > > Last Monday : acroread --> acroread 5_10 > Midle of last week : acroread --> acroread 7 > end of last week : acroread --> acroread 5 There's a longish thread on the relevant cvs mailing lists which details the discussion that resulted in this series of events. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPu7fk/lo7zvzJioRAp8sAJ4uoFAILhCDmJ4OrNxL0d9nzaxzhwCfaR3F CEHo/o/nhMbxiKmJVVsFLbw= =A4s7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:36:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834A616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:36:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DEB43D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fewjr@adelphia.net) Received: from homevwz5ek429r ([69.174.146.250]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050321163655.KVKN12278.mta9.adelphia.net@homevwz5ek429r> for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:36:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c52e34$4365a880$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> From: "Francis Whittington" To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:37:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:36:56 -0000 Hi Paul, Just wanted to say that I am reading as much as I can. UNIX books, = freeBSD handbook, websites, manpages, etc. I am 47, have 5 daughters, = and work 2 jobs, none of which have anything to do with computers. I = bought my first computer in 1998(they had no computer classes when i was = in school). I have just gotten interested in learning BSD. Linux would = have been okay too, but I read BSD was better. I came on this forum to = get a little help when I get frustrated. I do not have all the time in = the world for this. Wish i did sometimes. Its relaxing...LOL! = Besides...here is better than getting bitched at in #freebsdhelp to go = read. Thanks for the suggestions though. fewjr/Buddy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:38:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:38:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6C43D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:38:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so697273wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:38:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=h+ua3ohP0VROhlVSUDuQb9Xl8xqBjIFIQwFGtDugTY0x1S8c5PYNLYdyOAO9qT1yvwhsrp4u6XAqB5xCr9gxkkHliY/+MjgLevdLrlivyPZqHmXsPy2fpBv82MgInXzJeCCGBJOByHNJGLIWpHhj3+8mBqHVBF3iU3RjblwcwSQ= Received: by 10.54.11.66 with SMTP id 66mr1881041wrk; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.55 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <138bced705032108386887195b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:38:35 -0700 From: FreeBSD Questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <59175.24.90.34.93.1109565621.squirrel@24.90.34.93> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <64455.24.90.34.93.1109507149.squirrel@24.90.34.93> <20050228005104.M96254@reiteration.net> <59175.24.90.34.93.1109565621.squirrel@24.90.34.93> Subject: Re: open office freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:38:37 -0000 I too have this problem on my laptop. I was wondering if there is any trick to killing a run away process like open office. I have tried to kill -9 it to no avail and killing its parent process only makes it change its parent process to init. I usually end up restarting but that is sub optimal. There must be some way to kill a process regardless of its state. On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:40:21 -0500 (EST), kalin mintchev wrote: > > > > Hmm. I built from the port as well, but I excluded java on the make > > command > > line. There was an optimizations flag and I turned that on as well. > > > > How much memory have you? I'm running 768MB with an athalon 1GHz machine. > > Do any other java apps work? > > thanks for replying... i have 512 memory on a 2.2 GHz t30 thinkpad.. > > i got the binaries from the open office website and it works fine now with > the java i installed from ports - it's a newer version too. if i knew that > there are binaries before i'd hever wait for 12 hours to get it build from > the port... > > thanks... > > > -- > > lists@reiteration.net > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:47:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:47:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1540F43D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147])j2LGl9AN026841; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LGl8VV018531; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:47:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <138bced705032108386887195b@mail.gmail.com> References: <64455.24.90.34.93.1109507149.squirrel@24.90.34.93> <20050228005104.M96254@reiteration.net> <59175.24.90.34.93.1109565621.squirrel@24.90.34.93> <138bced705032108386887195b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:47:07 -0500 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open office freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:47:10 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 11:38 AM, FreeBSD Questions wrote: > I too have this problem on my laptop. I was wondering if there is any > trick to killing a run away process like open office. I have tried to > kill -9 it to no avail and killing its parent process only makes it > change its parent process to init. I usually end up restarting but > that is sub optimal. There must be some way to kill a process > regardless of its state. For what it's worth, you might do better to try "kill -HUP" a process first, then "kill -TERM", before resorting to "kill -9" (aka "kill -KILL"). Using less than maximum force gives the process a chance to notice it is supposed to go away and shut down more cleanly. This may help. However, if you do get a process stuck which won't go away when you kill -9 it, consider doing a "ps axl" and see what it's WCHAN is stuck on. (BTW, be sure you can discriminate between a zombie waiting for a parent to reap it's exit status, ie, "STAT" is "Z"...) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:51:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B652F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:51:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7943D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:51:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F9FC11D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:51:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3020.216.220.59.169.1111423882.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:51:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: How do I get growfs to work on a gvinum mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:51:15 -0000 Hi, Please excuse the re-post. I'm hoping that my question just got lost in the numerous conversations over the weekend and that I'm not suffering from bleading-edge technology that nobody else has tried in production yet. How do I make growfs actually grow a gvinum disk on FreeBSD 5.3? I've read the man pages, the Handbook, and done some searching with no luck. To help understand what I'm trying to accomplish here, I've created a filesystem that mounts to /export on a gvinum volume. The volume is configured as a mirror. I want to double it's size. To do this I used gvinum to add a subdisk to each plex of the mirror (this worked fine). gvinum now reports the volume as 32GB (it used to be 16GB). The filesystem is still 16GB. When I unmount the filesystem and run growfs on the device it claims there is no space to grow: # growfs -s 33554432 /dev/gvinum/export growfs: we are not growing (8388608 -> 8388608) And yet # disklabel /dev/gvinum/export # /dev/gvinum/export: 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 33554432 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 b: 33554432 0 swap c: 33554432 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit disklabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities better still: # gvinum list 2 drives: D a State: up /dev/ad1s1g A: 58662/108326 MB (54%) D b State: up /dev/ad0s1g A: 58662/108326 MB (54%) 5 volumes: ... V export State: up Plexes: 2 Size: 32 GB 8 plexes: ... P export.p1 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 32 GB P export.p0 C State: up Subdisks: 2 Size: 32 GB 12 subdisks: ... S export.p1.s0 State: up D: b Size: 16 GB S export.p0.s0 State: up D: a Size: 16 GB S export.p0.s1 State: up D: a Size: 16 GB S export.p1.s1 State: up D: b Size: 16 GB -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:03:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D59A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1EE43D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:03:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LH3E5p020826 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2LH3DtN011101 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LH3DIe011428 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:13 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDQJ7-0007T6-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:13 +0100 Message-ID: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:02:57 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:03:18 -0000 I have set up a webserver behind a bridged firewall, something like: INTERNET --------- FIREWALL --------- WEBSERVER The webserver is running FreeBSD, and currently I get many FIN_WAIT_2 states: # netstat -n -p tcp | grep FIN_WAIT_2 | wc -l 48 I wonder WHAT is responsible for sending every 5 minutes ACK messages to the clients in FIN_WAIT_2 state? tcp.inet.tcp.always_keepalive seems to be something else # netstat -n -p tcp | grep FIN_WAIT_2 | grep HTTP_CLIENT tcp4 0 0 134.96.240.1.80 HTTP_CLIENT.10228 FIN_WAIT_2 # tcpdump -S -i vr0 dst host HTTP_CLIENT 16:04:12.987415 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 0 16:04:12.987678 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 32900 16:08:57.944008 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 0 16:08:57.944300 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 32900 . . . 17:39:12.124577 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 0 17:39:12.124862 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 32900 17:43:57.081176 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 0 17:43:57.081434 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.10228: . ack 1760359226 win 32900 The bridged firewall seems to block exactly those ACK's. The setup is a simple stateful firewall, something like: iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d HTTP_SERVER --dport 80 -j ACCEPT Is blocking the ACK messages above somehow harmful? Greetings, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:04:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6E516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063543D60 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-125-24.37-151.net24.it [151.37.24.125]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LHNKbj077484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:23:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LH1qKA001453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:01:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:01:54 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli Organization: NetFence User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:24 -0000 Hello. The above program (from gcc) doesn't exist in base system, and AFAIK no ports installs it. Why? And where/how can I find it? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:05:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sockeye.firmanix.com (sockeye.firmanix.com [216.127.139.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F0143D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:05:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@firman.us) Received: from andy by sockeye.firmanix.com with local (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDQLO-000AzQ-5g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:05:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:05:34 -0500 From: Andy Firman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321170534.GA42170@sockeye.firmanix.com> References: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: linksys WPC54G (ver.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Firman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:05:33 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no wrote: > Hello > did anyone here manage to get linksys WPC54G working on freebsd? > I tried with ndis but i cant manage to get the card activated, > maybe I have the wrong drivers? Did you use LSTINDS.INF or lsbcmnds.inf? Card: Linksys WPC54G v2, 54Mbps -- link here Chipset: Texas Instruments ACX 111 pciid: 104c:9066 Driver: Linksys ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/wpc54gv2_driver_utility_v2.02.zip Other: linux-2.6.8-gentoo kernel, ndiswrapper 0.10.Kept having kernel panic (interrupt-related) upon module load until I set CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y (and unset CONFIG_4KSTACKS, just in case.) Also, used "ndiswrapper -i LSTINDS.INF" (NOT lsbcmnds.inf). Works with 64 and 128-bit WEP. Sometimes need to repeat config info (and commit) repeatedly, else driver & card will ignore requested setup. Also works with Gentoo 2.6.9-r9, ndiswrapper 0.12 and drivers that came from CD. >From this page: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:08:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9359C16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:08:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net (esmtp.webtent.net [208.38.145.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18BCF43D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:08:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 41E1EF2178 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (esmtp.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86314-13 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (unknown [209.241.118.235]) with ESMTP id AE3D1F2170 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:08:17 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Message-Id: <1111424895.16428.16.camel@columbus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:08:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at webtent.net Subject: DB43 and Openldap-sasl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:08:27 -0000 The README for openldap22-sasl-server indicates Berkeley DB 4.3 is required for slapd. I adjusted the /etc/make.conf to WITH_BDB_VER=43 and the port system now complains, not that I'm trying to upgrade that version of SASL, just an example is: genoa# portupgrade cyrus-sasl-2.1.20_1 ** Port marked as IGNORE: security/cyrus-sasl2: "is marked as broken: "WITH_BDB_VER must be 3, 4, 41 or 42"" Should I make this change in the /etc/make.conf file or perhaps take it out? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:15:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FE416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:15:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699FF43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:15:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2LHFAeX093272; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:15:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:15:10 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <20050321171510.GE5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:15:12 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 21), Andrea Venturoli said: > The above program (from gcc) doesn't exist in base system, and AFAIK > no ports installs it. It will be in 5.4; it was accidentally broken during the gcc 3.4.2 import and no-one noticed. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:18:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEF416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:18:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0FF43D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:18:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hal.larsen@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1152131wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:18:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=b7hpowfmXX7wZ7haPzi8m/3Hlmdc9J2GR9Ko/mnCKwhIM3kvqZZk/+vZN9hK1UtqGUi09TnP6YoApW8suS7kKAyrAUpQGZoSxjUNBgnW7o4SgJgx8xcWh+uKTTCAh7bGWCUpiCGOgMR6FRrhAl951tqC9ZMVEqI2AX589CkP60Y= Received: by 10.54.51.78 with SMTP id y78mr3340933wry; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.67.14 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:17:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1f3db6cb0503210917237cfa05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:17:16 -0500 From: Hal Larsen To: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44oeddorom.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1f3db6cb05032107086a1ccd38@mail.gmail.com> <44oeddorom.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Can't start x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hal Larsen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:18:58 -0000 Wrapper is part of xorg package. On 21 Mar 2005 12:05:29 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Hal Larsen writes: > > > Installed xorg and get this error message: > > > > #startx > > > > [code] > > Fatal server error: > > Cannot move old log file ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" > > Make sure you have the wrapper installed. > [x11/wrapper port] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:21:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017E516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1352543D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDQYN-0000Vs-Sq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:19:00 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:18:59 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:18:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Andrea Venturoli scribbled these curious markings: > The above program (from gcc) doesn't exist in base system, and AFAIK no > ports installs it. > Why? And where/how can I find it? [(12:15:27) apeiron@prophecy ~] uname -rs FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE [(12:15:45) apeiron@prophecy ~] which c++filt /usr/bin/c++filt [(12:15:47) apeiron@prophecy ~] [(12:16:00) apeiron@adjunct ~] uname -rs FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE [(12:16:05) apeiron@adjunct ~] which c++filt /usr/bin/c++filt [(12:16:07) apeiron@adjunct ~] Which version are you running? Did you install all of the distributions? (Yes, I know that my systems are out of date. But with GNOME 2.10, Xorg 6.8.2, *AND* KDE 3.4 all hitting the ports tree in very short order, system upgrades have fallen behind.) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPwIpk/lo7zvzJioRAsA4AKCrXgrqieC5X8hdUXIHbUP1IPJJwwCghisW NyruN5cNIsCozPonQpvr3K8= =CIHP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC01316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6524343D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2LHLkFo007594; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LHLiMr020601; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:21:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:21:41 -0500 To: Robert Gogolok X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:47 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Robert Gogolok wrote: > The webserver is running FreeBSD, and currently I get many FIN_WAIT_2 > states: > # netstat -n -p tcp | grep FIN_WAIT_2 | wc -l > 48 > > I wonder WHAT is responsible for sending every 5 minutes ACK messages > to the clients in FIN_WAIT_2 state? tcp.inet.tcp.always_keepalive > seems to be something else The TCP stack wants the remote end to acknowledge the last FIN it sends and close the connection cleanly, and there is a timer (2 * MSL?) which gets started when a connection moves into the closing stages (FIN_WAIT_1, FIN_WAIT_2, LAST_ACK). It's not uncommon for some clients (think dialup users running Win98), to drop the connection rather rather than close it properly. Your system should time out these connections after a while. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:24:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C499816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:24:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08C443D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:24:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2LHOiKi003221; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LHOhSI006149; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:24:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1111424895.16428.16.camel@columbus> References: <1111424895.16428.16.camel@columbus> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9aea4f6a76ed1d5438e624e5b978ec36@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:24:42 -0500 To: robert@webtent.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: DB43 and Openldap-sasl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:24:49 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 12:08 PM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > The README for openldap22-sasl-server indicates Berkeley DB 4.3 is > required for slapd. I adjusted the /etc/make.conf to WITH_BDB_VER=43 > and > the port system now complains, not that I'm trying to upgrade that > version of SASL, just an example is: > > genoa# portupgrade cyrus-sasl-2.1.20_1 > ** Port marked as IGNORE: security/cyrus-sasl2: > "is marked as broken: "WITH_BDB_VER must be 3, 4, 41 or 42"" > > Should I make this change in the /etc/make.conf file or perhaps take it > out? The cyrus port probably doesn't know how to use BDB-43. You could change that port and see whether Cyrus works with 43, or you might try building openldap against BDB-42 and see whether it still works. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:28:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DDA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:28:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952143D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:28:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so875757rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=BFphGYvyShPG4lgyNeovcS+n1w1tL8XS61DxhnhVNVbO3LKmLe1ScH2dYp62gFewuq73F88YoeVaW/YOfTXkNBdmb67BTXMpf8WIN01IYhxl4X25K3W2isPNuQziSVrTsNza5MyWC8IbeOgCDCw3lJYZRw/U1+n87XqEJh3Xbsk= Received: by 10.38.10.76 with SMTP id 76mr4786974rnj; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:28:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:28:53 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: danny@ricin.com In-Reply-To: <200503210051.48336.danny@ricin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> <200503210051.48336.danny@ricin.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wow ! 5.3 -> 5.4 -> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:28:55 -0000 I wounder if there was an ACPI fix that addressed the issue? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:51:48 +0100, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2005 23:19, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > Hello dear people @ freebsd > > > > something wonderfull ( at least in my case ) happened > > since the last update of the base system on a sony vaio > > laptop ( CPU: Intel Pentium III (694.84-MHz 686-class CPU) ) > > > > before, when the machine was compiling, it was getting > > at 82 degrees with 100% CPU > > > > now, with 100% CPU it gets at maximum 52 degrees. > > > > what happened between 5.3 and 5.4-PRERELEASE ? > > > > thanks alot, > > alex > > Well, obviously it got a lot cooler :) > And 5.5 will have software CPU cooling. > > Seriously: I don't know the cause, could be anything. I wouldn't jump to > conclusions about 5.3 -> 5.4. > > Interesting observation though. > > Dan > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:36:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF1016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:36:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from triton.rz.uni-saarland.de (triton.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4032543D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.254]) j2LHa5Ps4266981; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2LHa4bN012020; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LHa313013579; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:03 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDQot-0007XP-00; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:03 +0100 Message-ID: <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:35:46 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.1 (triton.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.25]); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:05 +0100 (CET) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.0.6; AVE 6.30.0.7; VDF 6.30.0.39 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:36:09 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > The TCP stack wants the remote end to acknowledge the last FIN it sends > and close the connection cleanly, and there is a timer (2 * MSL?) which > gets started when a connection moves into the closing stages > (FIN_WAIT_1, FIN_WAIT_2, LAST_ACK). So FIN_WAIT_2 is the time the server waits to receive the FIN from the client, but although it doesn't get this last FIN message yet, it sends ACK's for the expected FIN message? > It's not uncommon for some clients (think dialup users running Win98), > to drop the connection rather rather than close it properly. So the client has time to ACK the server's FIN, but the user closes the dialup connection, so the application hasn't sent the FIN? > Your system should time out these connections after a while. Good decision:-) Greetings, Robert! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:45:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C77616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:45:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06BD43D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:48:31 -0600 Message-ID: <423F0823.5070102@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:45:07 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francis Whittington References: <000501c52e34$4365a880$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> In-Reply-To: <000501c52e34$4365a880$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 17:48:32.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[32965450:01C52E3E] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: just finished install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:45:12 -0000 Francis Whittington wrote: >Hi Paul, > Just wanted to say that I am reading as much as I can. UNIX books, >freeBSD handbook, websites, manpages, etc. I am 47, have 5 daughters, >and work 2 jobs, none of which have anything to do with computers. I >bought my first computer in 1998(they had no computer classes when i >was in school). I have just gotten interested in learning BSD. Linux >would have been okay too, but I read BSD was better. I came on this >forum to get a little help when I get frustrated. I do not have all >the time in the world for this. Wish i did sometimes. Its >relaxing...LOL! Besides...here is better than getting bitched >at in #freebsdhelp to go read. Thanks for the suggestions though. > > fewjr/Buddy > > > From time to time we've heard about "mean-ness" (if you will) on IRC channels. They aren't official, AAMOF. On the other hand, this list is. This is not to say that you might not occasionally get "gritched at" on this list, but generally (notice all these qualifying words) it's not much of an issue, particularly if you can take the time to do enough research to ask a good question. Eric Raymond wrote a classic tome on this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html BTW, welcome to FreeBSD! Be sure and write back when you have specific questions. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:48:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A454416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:48:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621A443D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:48:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2LHmY3d028590; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LHmWlH015427; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:48:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7c82a2d1780970b84810aefc59bdb295@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:48:31 -0500 To: Robert Gogolok X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:48:34 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Robert Gogolok wrote: > Charles Swiger wrote: >> The TCP stack wants the remote end to acknowledge the last FIN it >> sends and close the connection cleanly, and there is a timer (2 * >> MSL?) which gets started when a connection moves into the closing >> stages (FIN_WAIT_1, FIN_WAIT_2, LAST_ACK). > > So FIN_WAIT_2 is the time the server waits to receive the FIN from the > client, but although it doesn't get this last FIN message yet, it > sends ACK's for the expected FIN message? FIN_WAIT_2 is a name describing the state of a TCP connection. It's defined in a state diagram in RFC-793. But otherwise, your description is pretty good: [ ... ] | CLOSE +---------+ | ------- | ESTAB | | snd FIN +---------+ | CLOSE | | rcv FIN V ------- | | ------- +---------+ snd FIN / \ snd ACK +---------+ | FIN |<----------------- ------------------>| CLOSE | | WAIT-1 |------------------ | WAIT | +---------+ rcv FIN \ +---------+ | rcv ACK of FIN ------- | CLOSE | | -------------- snd ACK | ------- | V x V snd FIN V +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ |FINWAIT-2| | CLOSING | | LAST-ACK| +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ | rcv ACK of FIN | rcv ACK of FIN | | rcv FIN -------------- | Timeout=2MSL -------------- | | ------- x V ------------ x V \ snd ACK +---------+delete TCB +---------+ ------------------------>|TIME WAIT|------------------>| CLOSED | +---------+ +---------+ TCP Connection State Diagram Figure 6. >> It's not uncommon for some clients (think dialup users running >> Win98), to drop the connection rather rather than close it properly. > So the client has time to ACK the server's FIN, but the user closes > the dialup connection, so the application hasn't sent the FIN? Your http server answers the HTTP request, and tries to close the connection. It sends a the data, followed by a FIN. It is waiting to receive an ACK of the FIN, and then receive a FIN from the client indicating that the client has no more data to send and is willing to close the connection. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:55:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE9616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:55:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0210443D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:55:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so989795rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n/Wxo5H2HAobDGv33KDQn9jlkKFjR2uugLb0M3/oY4XGfzdZGgRJ6CAAShKafNHsC/tGUIMUSBviC0pvmfPe1jXU0GoC7L9uCaukipMNqtRlzpLDsWm6v/1OgE61gJwNRk9WAosgngOsgNrBnXq9QYrYoyQiM1M6pXSmjHouAnE= Received: by 10.38.65.20 with SMTP id n20mr5468225rna; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:55:39 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sshd configuration after mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:55:40 -0000 I've just completed a successful transition from 5.3-BETA7 to 5.3-RELEASE via the usual "makeworld" procedures. Thanks to spending some time with "mergemaster -p", all of my configuration seems to have carried over and is working perfectly, with the exception of ssh. The only difference between the original and temporary versions of sshd_config was a single line I had entered in order to prevent "root" from logging in via ssh as "root". Everything else, with the obvious exception of the config file signature, was the same. Yet I'm now getting errors when I try to ssh from any location (remote, LAN, even testing on the same terminal). If I don't do "-v", the terminal window just disappears or shows no feedback. "-v" shows "no more authentication methods to try". I then found a passage in a SSHD book that says to copy sshd.pam from the OpenSSH contrib folder in src to /etc/pam.d/ssh, and change the owner to root and permissions to 664. This certainly did something, as -v now shows quite a different message: invalid facility 'sshd' (ignored) fatal: PAM: initialisation failed I have not used PAM before. Is it now a requirement in order to use ssh? or am I going overboard to solve a simple problem? Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:04:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475B616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:04:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A4E43D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xmisoy@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so967556rna for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:04:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FBf3GH8+rhvva3HHOOx6KRNsHy/HETxqbYv3AIJvLDBAyAqpgFzwszc6teJTfFz0eM1Jkb/IBUL9OAq4RuhvCvyTPRDwy5vvaBlzbbozrfGsPbO1SIskI2ZUAeZrxKQJgUR9ALH45o715TVHgO0R8AxDZROgsFYlwCOaWz111EE= Received: by 10.38.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr4817372rnb; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.39.1.44 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:04:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36f5bbba0503211004b66957a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:04:25 +0800 From: "Edwin D. Vinas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: tcpdump question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Edwin D. Vinas" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:04:26 -0000 Hi everyone! I've run a tcpdump on my FreeBSD-5.3 machine which is connected via DSL connection (with fix IP add) passing through a DSL modem. I see the following weird output, and Im wondering where does the "192.168.2.1" came from if I disconnected the LAN from my BSD machine. 01:59:04.157465 IP 192.168.2.1 > ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET: igmp query v2 01:59:04.157587 IP 192.168.2.1 > ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET: igmp query v2 01:59:04.318834 IP 192.168.2.1 > RIP2-ROUTERS.MCAST.NET: igmp v2 report RIP2-ROUTERS.MCAST.NET 01:59:04.318875 IP 192.168.2.1 > 239.255.255.250: igmp v2 report 239.255.25= 5.250 01:59:28.374428 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 6 01:59:28.374725 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 8 01:59:28.375012 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 8 01:59:28.375295 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 2 01:59:28.375558 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:28.375838 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 32= 4 01:59:28.376114 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 29= 2 01:59:28.376368 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:28.376651 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 8 01:59:28.376929 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 29= 8 01:59:28.377213 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 6 01:59:28.377475 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:28.377733 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 24= 4 01:59:29.383863 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 6 01:59:29.384153 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 8 01:59:29.384437 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 8 01:59:29.384719 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 2 01:59:29.384975 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:29.385254 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 32= 4 01:59:29.385516 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 29= 2 01:59:29.385771 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:29.386042 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 8 01:59:29.386321 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 29= 8 01:59:29.386606 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 6 01:59:29.386864 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 25= 3 01:59:29.387112 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 24= 4 01:59:30.393338 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 6 01:59:30.393613 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 30= 8 01:59:30.393944 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 8 01:59:30.394167 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 31= 2 Another one, is there a GUI to visualize properly the output of tcpdump? I mean a GUI which can be run as separate X Window application whose job is to tabulate and display the output of tcpdump in a human-readable form. Thanks! -Edwin --=20 -- Edwin D. Vi=F1as http://www.geocities.com/edwin_vinas/ IN THE WORLD OF SCIENCE, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B001E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508FB43D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2LIHbfd003036; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:17:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:17:37 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Edwin D. Vinas" Message-ID: <20050321181737.GH5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: <36f5bbba0503211004b66957a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36f5bbba0503211004b66957a@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcpdump question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:17:38 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 22), Edwin D. Vinas said: > I've run a tcpdump on my FreeBSD-5.3 machine which is connected via > DSL connection (with fix IP add) passing through a DSL modem. I see > the following weird output, and Im wondering where does the > "192.168.2.1" came from if I disconnected the LAN from my BSD > machine. > > 01:59:04.157465 IP 192.168.2.1 > ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET: igmp query v2 > 01:59:04.157587 IP 192.168.2.1 > ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET: igmp query v2 > 01:59:04.318834 IP 192.168.2.1 > RIP2-ROUTERS.MCAST.NET: igmp v2 report RIP2-ROUTERS.MCAST.NET > 01:59:04.318875 IP 192.168.2.1 > 239.255.255.250: igmp v2 report 239.255.255.250 > 01:59:28.374428 IP 192.168.2.1.1900 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length: 306 Do you maybe have a Windows XP machine on your network? port 1900 is Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP), used by XP to discover routers. The igmp packets are probably doing the same thing. > Another one, is there a GUI to visualize properly the output of > tcpdump? I mean a GUI which can be run as separate X Window > application whose job is to tabulate and display the output of > tcpdump in a human-readable form. ethereal is a good one. You can either run it on tcpdump capture files, or let it capture packets itself. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:39:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A7D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB1F43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 815E31C0008F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:39:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 58CA81C00081 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:39:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321183912363.58CA81C00081@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:39:11 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:39:14 -0000 RacerX writes: > 1. Upgrade the system BIOS > 2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller > 3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) > > Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider doing > so and see if this "may" correct your issues. Show me that it's not a bug in FreeBSD first. I never had the problem in Windows NT. I'm not going to upgrade every bit of hardware and software in the box just to prove it _isn't_ FreeBSD, when FreeBSD represents the only change to a machine that has run without fail for eight years. I also don't believe in throwing darts to solve problems. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:41:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F1B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:41:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3704A43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:41:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 68C111C00097 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BC251C00092 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:32 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321184132310.4BC251C00092@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:29 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1457754528.20050321194129@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <129416735.20050319101608@wanadoo.fr> <266982083.20050320105247@wanadoo.fr> <509316416.20050320191821@wanadoo.fr> <1297045482.20050321051029@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:41:33 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Then why new versions? Because Microsoft has to sell new versions in order to maintain its revenue flow. The only other option is licenses that are not perpetually valid (i.e., licenses you have to pay for again each month or each year). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A22816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:45:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B9643D5C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B9AC1C00099 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:45:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1EF7B1C0008A for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:45:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050321184551126.1EF7B1C0008A@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:45:50 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:45:52 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > The problem is you just don't want it to be a hardware problem because > you don't accept the possibility that the NT driver wrote around a > hardware problem and the FreeBSD driver doesen't. No, I don't want to run on a wild goose chase just because it hurts someone's pride to think that FreeBSD might have a bug. The only thing that changed on this machine was a move from Windows NT to FreeBSD. Therefore the source of the problem is FreeBSD. > Despite the fact that making up for hardware problems with > writearounds in the software drivers is a common thing in the > industry. That would explain the "quirks" coding in FreeBSD, then, wouldn't it? Or is this only bad when other operating systems do it? > So you won't do the testing to prove that it is or isn't a hardware > bug, and thus you can continue pretending to yourself that it must be > software, and thus not your responsibility. Nobody here knows enough about FreeBSD to even tell me what its messages mean; I don't see any particular reason to knock myself out indulging their baseless conjectures. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:52:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:52:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08CC43D49 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:52:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LIqSkj000050; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2LIqRcY013807; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LIqRhv018228; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:27 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDS0n-0007h3-00; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: <423F17D9.70802@web.de> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:09 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> <7c82a2d1780970b84810aefc59bdb295@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <7c82a2d1780970b84810aefc59bdb295@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:52:31 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > FIN_WAIT_2 is a name describing the state of a TCP connection. It's > defined in a state diagram in RFC-793. But otherwise, your description > is pretty good: > [ ... ] > | CLOSE +---------+ > | ------- | ESTAB | > | snd FIN +---------+ > | CLOSE | | rcv FIN > V ------- | | ------- > +---------+ snd FIN / \ snd ACK +---------+ > | FIN |<----------------- ------------------>| CLOSE | > | WAIT-1 |------------------ | WAIT | > +---------+ rcv FIN \ +---------+ > | rcv ACK of FIN ------- | CLOSE | > | -------------- snd ACK | ------- | > V x V snd FIN V > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > |FINWAIT-2| | CLOSING | | LAST-ACK| > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > | rcv ACK of FIN | rcv ACK of FIN | > | rcv FIN -------------- | Timeout=2MSL -------------- | > | ------- x V ------------ x V > \ snd ACK +---------+delete TCB +---------+ > ------------------------>|TIME WAIT|------------------>| CLOSED | > +---------+ +---------+ > > TCP Connection State Diagram > Figure 6. I've looked at the "Closing a Connection" chapter from the RFC and tried to understand it. The state diagram above shows that from the FINWAIT-2 state there is only one possible way to reach TIME WAIT. So FreeBSD must be using another extension of the RFC-793, when it's sending ACK messages in the FINWAIT-2 state? Wow, I'm confused at this point, I have a linux box here which was the previous webserver, and I can't remember seeing ACK's hitting the firewall logs as it is now with the FreeBSD webserver. Greetings, Robert! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:54:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AD016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.uidaho.edu (mx3.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A3743D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewr@uidaho.edu) Received: from mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mailA.its.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.252]) by mx3.uidaho.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LIsOHQ016788 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:24 -0800 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailA [129.101.155.252]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0IDP00IACTUO3Y@mailA.its.uidaho.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.101.155.252] (Forwarded-For: [129.101.156.200]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:24 -0800 From: Andrew Robinson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-SpamDetails: rule=notspam policy= score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 engine=2.5.0-05031800 definitions=2.5.0-05032001 X-SpamScore: 0 cc: andrewr@uidaho.edu Subject: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:54:25 -0000 Hello FreeBSD community, I'm trying to get my network card working under 5.3 Release. It won't DHCP. Configuring it using ifconfig doesn't permit any connection. (I also tried the February Stable, with no change as far as I can tell). WinXP identifies the NIC as Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC. Knoppix and WinXP both provide drivers that seem to work. Knoppix autodetects it without any (seeming) problem. My FreeBSD kernel is generic, and both the following lines are uncommented: device miibus # MII bus support device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S The output from ifconfig is: fwe0: flags=108802 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 ch 1 dma -1 plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 and what I think is the relevant part of dmesg is: firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant It makes me wonder if FreeBSD is identifying the card as something different than it is. Is that possible? What next steps might be useful for me to take? Thanks much! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:04:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFB616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:04:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.dccnet.com (mx.dccnet.com [24.207.1.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1337443D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:04:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from canonalis@dccnet.com) Received: from [192.168.121.105] (unverified [24.207.88.142]) by mx2.dccnet.com (DCCNet Email Cluster) with ESMTP id 1173174 for multiple; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:04:39 -0800 Message-ID: <423F1AC6.7020100@dccnet.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:04:38 -0800 From: "Kevin G. Eliuk" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:04:42 -0000 Andrew Robinson wrote: >Hello FreeBSD community, > >I'm trying to get my network card working under 5.3 Release. It won't DHCP. Configuring it using ifconfig doesn't permit any connection. > >(I also tried the February Stable, with no change as far as I can tell). > >WinXP identifies the NIC as Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC. Knoppix and WinXP both provide drivers that seem to work. Knoppix autodetects it without any (seeming) problem. > >My FreeBSD kernel is generic, and both the following lines are uncommented: > >device miibus # MII bus support >device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S > > >The output from ifconfig is: > >fwe0: flags=108802 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 > ch 1 dma -1 >plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 >lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > > >and what I think is the relevant part of dmesg is: > >firewire0: on fwohci0 >fwe0: on firewire0 >if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 >fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 >fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant > > >It makes me wonder if FreeBSD is identifying the card as something different than it is. Is that possible? What next steps might be useful for me to take? > >Thanks much! > > It's not recognizing it at all. If (as I assume you do) have X installed could you supply the output of 'scanpci'. It will provide more information. -- Cheers, Kevin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:11:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205C443D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [198.182.157.20] (networktechpc.calarts.edu [198.182.157.20]) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j2LJB8w00102 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:11:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423F1C54.7040204@calarts.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:11:16 -0800 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423B5182.3030801@calarts.edu> In-Reply-To: <423B5182.3030801@calarts.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NLB Network Load Balance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sean Murphy wrote: | I have dual NICs (Intel 1000/MT) in my FreeBSD 5.3 Server. I would like | to use both NICs to send and receive traffic for NLB. Each currently | has a different IP can some one point me in the right direction so that | they can act together? | | Thanks | | Anyone have any ideas? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCPxxUU1XvdHZC/KcRAhnGAKCpl1f4G+i59u+5SUXROD9VDTMSkgCeM2vC 5DXlEiEdAqKg7+BIi7vwWW0= =nrWH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:12:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BDF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1F243D5A for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:12:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146])j2LJCPTs029237; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LJCMi7017678; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:12:22 -0500 To: Andrew Robinson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:12:25 -0000 Hi, Andrew-- On Mar 21, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote: > It makes me wonder if FreeBSD is identifying the card as something > different than it is. Is that possible? What next steps might be > useful for me to take? Take a look at the output of "pciconf -v -l". The odds are that it lists a PCI ID for your NIC that the FreeBSD driver doesn't know about. Use that information to update /usr/src/sys/pci/if_rlreg.h and /usr/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c, and see whether that gets you a working driver. If you're not sure how to do this, post the pciconf info for just your NIC so that others can try to update the code and get you a working driver... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:15:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9EB16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F8943D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDSKW-0001uR-C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:12:48 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:12:48 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:12:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <423F1AC6.7020100@dccnet.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:15:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-21, Kevin G. Eliuk scribbled these curious markings: > It's not recognizing it at all. If (as I assume you do) have X > installed could you supply the output of 'scanpci'. It will provide > more information. Perhaps a better idea, which doesn't depend upon X, would be to use pciconf, which is in the base system. pciconf -lv (run as root) should give the details about the card. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPx0Zk/lo7zvzJioRAvatAJ9QGm6Hm3TAbOGb3pA11b1ujrbPLwCgoFNI krajXADlcfMUT2oFp37AqqQ= =6tuC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:20:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A5716A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:20:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from piston.ecp.fr (piston.ecp.fr [138.195.33.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D9E43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:20:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dhenin@puma.cti.ecp.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by piston.ecp.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F63801B for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from puma.cti.ecp.fr (puma.cti.ecp.fr [138.195.33.10]) by piston.ecp.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF0A38017 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:40 +0100 (CET) Received: by puma.cti.ecp.fr (Postfix, from userid 23550) id 09E211E190; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:39 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:39 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Dhenin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321192039.GA21619@ecp.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Howto extract only one channel from a wav file ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:20:42 -0000 Howto extract only one channel from a wav file ? The left channel, for example, is very bad. Howto get only the right one ? I dont find into xwave, sox, lame ... something for this use. -- (°> Dhénin Jean-Jacques / ) dhenin@ecp.fr ^^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:26:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2B416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:26:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81006.mail.yahoo.com (web81006.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0082543D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:26:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050321192618.88617.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.90.100.209] by web81006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:26:18 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Missing libnss_winbind.so file..where do I get this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:26:19 -0000 Hello, I'm making progress slowy but surely with my install of Samba. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 and appear to be missing or unable to locate libnss_winbind.so . Do you know how/where I get this? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:30:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA9B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:30:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9675843D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:30:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152])j2LJUIWF005978; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LJUFXR009166; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:30:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <423F17D9.70802@web.de> References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> <7c82a2d1780970b84810aefc59bdb295@mac.com> <423F17D9.70802@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:30:14 -0500 To: Robert Gogolok X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:30:18 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Robert Gogolok wrote: > I've looked at the "Closing a Connection" chapter from the RFC and > tried to understand it. The state diagram above shows that from the > FINWAIT-2 state there is only one possible way to reach TIME WAIT. That's right. > So FreeBSD must be using another extension of the RFC-793, when it's > sending ACK messages in the FINWAIT-2 state? If the TCP connection is in FIN_WAIT_2, FreeBSD may send out ACKs periodicly, trying to nudge the other side to send a FIN to finish closing the connection. That may be controlled by the keepalive sysctl, but we're starting to go beyond my specific knowledge. One of the true FreeBSD network wizards like Andre Oppermann might be able to provide more information. > Wow, I'm confused at this point, I have a linux box here which was the > previous webserver, and I can't remember seeing ACK's hitting the > firewall logs as it is now with the FreeBSD webserver. Hmm, it's hard to say. Having a complete tcpdump of a TCP connection handy would help, as would making sure that your firewall rules aren't doing something to interrupt or block the end of the connection. Are you getting any responses back from the clients, or have they disappeared? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:31:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDEA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:31:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from micron.lacnic.net.uy (lacnic.net.uy [200.40.228.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5876543D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pablo@lacnic.net) Received: from micron.lacnic.net.uy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by micron.lacnic.net.uy (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LIVIR4071044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:31:18 -0300 (UYT) (envelope-from pablo@micron.lacnic.net.uy) Received: (from pablo@localhost) by micron.lacnic.net.uy (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2LIVHOG071043; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:31:17 -0300 (UYT) (envelope-from pablo) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:31:17 -0300 From: Pablo Allietti To: Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no Message-ID: <20050321183117.GB64874@micron.lacnic.net.uy> References: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Freebsd X-Organization: LACNIC X-URL: http://lacnic.net/ X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on micron.lacnic.net.uy X-Lacnic.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Lacnic.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: pablo@micron.lacnic.net.uy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linksys WPC54G (ver.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:31:23 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no wrote: > Hello > did anyone here manage to get linksys WPC54G working on freebsd? > I tried with ndis but i cant manage to get the card activated, > maybe I have the wrong drivers? i tried with a wUSB54G and was impossible. i need to migrate my notebook to fedora to install ndiswrapper :( ndis dont support USB > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---end quoted text--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:33:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3606416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E9743D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9A960F6 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:33:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84731-01 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4816E60F4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4251560F3 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:59 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <20050321132706.L84708@makeworld.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issue. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:08 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > RacerX writes: > >> 1. Upgrade the system BIOS >> 2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller >> 3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) >> >> Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider doing >> so and see if this "may" correct your issues. > > Show me that it's not a bug in FreeBSD first. I never had the problem > in Windows NT. I'm not going to upgrade every bit of hardware and > software in the box just to prove it _isn't_ FreeBSD, when FreeBSD > represents the only change to a machine that has run without fail for > eight years. I also don't believe in throwing darts to solve problems. > > -- > Anthony Anthony - A few things - considering the hardware is 8 years plus, can we assume you never updated/upgraded the firmware on the above mentioned. Assuming that to be true, you are taking an virtually new OS (FreeBSD in this case) and imposing it on old hardware (again, assuming the firmware was never upgraded) and expect it to preform without issues. Any Server+ or even A+ tech knows that from time to time, you need to upgrade/update your firmware. So, why not give it a shot? At least try to bring your 8 year old hardware a bit closer to 2004/2005 with a firmware hoist. It can't hurt - if anything, it will allow many new features added to the old stuff to whatever OS of choice you deem to use. That's just plain common sence. If however you don't feel you qualified to do this (as outlined if you are A+ or Server+ ) then we'll all understand. First rule - NEVER assume it's anything - always look at EVERY possible solution. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A11D16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2618F43D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147])j2LJXinP005861; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)j2LJXgrk024280; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:33:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <423F1C54.7040204@calarts.edu> References: <423B5182.3030801@calarts.edu> <423F1C54.7040204@calarts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2070418073ab895737195bf018560452@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:33:41 -0500 To: Sean Murphy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NLB Network Load Balance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Sean Murphy wrote: > | I have dual NICs (Intel 1000/MT) in my FreeBSD 5.3 Server. I would > like > | to use both NICs to send and receive traffic for NLB. Each currently > | has a different IP can some one point me in the right direction so > that > | they can act together? Take a look at "man ng_one2many": DESCRIPTION The one2many provides a simple mechanism for routing packets over several links in a one-to-many (and in the reverse direction, many-to-one) fash- ion. There is a single hook named one, and multiple hooks named many0, many1, etc. Packets received on any of the many hooks are forwarded out the one hook. Packets received on the one hook are forwarded out one or more of the many hooks; which hook(s) is determined by the node's config- ured transmit algorithm. Packets are not altered in any way. It's got some caveats... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:36:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:36:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A5B43D53 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:36:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E119F60F3 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84729-03 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9359E60E7; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8049060E4 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:37 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <20050321133424.B84708@makeworld.com> References: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:36:46 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> The problem is you just don't want it to be a hardware problem because >> you don't accept the possibility that the NT driver wrote around a >> hardware problem and the FreeBSD driver doesen't. > > No, I don't want to run on a wild goose chase just because it hurts > someone's pride to think that FreeBSD might have a bug. > > The only thing that changed on this machine was a move from Windows NT > to FreeBSD. Therefore the source of the problem is FreeBSD. > >> Despite the fact that making up for hardware problems with >> writearounds in the software drivers is a common thing in the >> industry. > > That would explain the "quirks" coding in FreeBSD, then, wouldn't it? > Or is this only bad when other operating systems do it? > >> So you won't do the testing to prove that it is or isn't a hardware >> bug, and thus you can continue pretending to yourself that it must be >> software, and thus not your responsibility. > > Nobody here knows enough about FreeBSD to even tell me what its messages > mean; I don't see any particular reason to knock myself out indulging > their baseless conjectures. > > -- > Anthony > Oh for fucks sakes, stop insulting the folks that are offering solutions. Like I posted before - upgrade your firmware to meet FBSD half way . How do you expect an OS written for 2005 to play well with shit that was made in 97? Get a grip, stop insulting us - we're NOT the enemy here. However, YOUare makeing them. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:41:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64F216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.uidaho.edu (mx2.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3867F43D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewr@uidaho.edu) Received: from mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mailA.its.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.252]) by mx2.uidaho.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LJfVQK004456 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:41:31 -0800 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailA [129.101.155.252]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0IDP00IASW173Y@mailA.its.uidaho.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.101.155.252] (Forwarded-For: [129.101.156.200]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:41:31 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:41:31 -0800 From: Andrew Robinson To: "Kevin G. Eliuk" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-SpamDetails: rule=notspam policy= score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 engine=2.5.0-05031800 definitions=2.5.0-05032001 X-SpamScore: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:33 -0000 Hi Kevin, > It's not recognizing it at all. If (as I assume you do) have X > installed could you supply the output of 'scanpci'. It will > provide > more information. Here it is: ########################################### pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2580 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2581 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1b function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2668 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1d function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2658 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1d function 0x01: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2659 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1d function 0x02: vendor 0x8086 device 0x265a Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1d function 0x03: vendor 0x8086 device 0x265b Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1d function 0x07: vendor 0x8086 device 0x265c Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1e function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x244e Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2640 Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x01: vendor 0x8086 device 0x266f Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x03: vendor 0x8086 device 0x266a Intel Corp. Device unknown pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x00c8 nVidia Corporation Device unknown pci bus 0x000a cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x104c device 0xac50 Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller pci bus 0x000a cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x104c device 0x8023 Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) pci bus 0x000a cardnum 0x02 function 0x00: vendor 0x105a device 0x3373 Promise Technology, Inc. Device unknown pci bus 0x000a cardnum 0x03 function 0x00: vendor 0x10ec device 0x8169 Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 pci bus 0x000a cardnum 0x05 function 0x00: vendor 0x1814 device 0x0201 Device unknown ############################################ I would appreciate any thoughts - thanks! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:43:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A3616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:43:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.uidaho.edu (mx2.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C8143D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewr@uidaho.edu) Received: from mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mailA.its.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.252]) by mx2.uidaho.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LJhNvp005284 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:43:23 -0800 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailA [129.101.155.252]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0IDP00ISNW4B3Y@mailA.its.uidaho.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.101.155.252] (Forwarded-For: [129.101.156.200]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:43:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:43:23 -0800 From: Andrew Robinson To: Charles Swiger Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-SpamDetails: rule=notspam policy= score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 engine=2.5.0-05031800 definitions=2.5.0-05032001 X-SpamScore: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:43:25 -0000 Hi Chuck, Thanks for the suggestion - that's beyond my exerptise, but here is the (hopefully relevant) output of pciconf ########################################### none4@pci10:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x09001558 chip=0x816910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL8169 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet none5@pci10:5:0: class=0x028000 card=0x68331462 chip=0x02011814 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ralink Technology Corp' class = network ########################################### I would appreciate any further advice or assistance, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Swiger Date: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:12 am Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure > Hi, Andrew-- > > On Mar 21, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Robinson wrote: > > It makes me wonder if FreeBSD is identifying the card as > something > > different than it is. Is that possible? What next steps might > be > > useful for me to take? > > Take a look at the output of "pciconf -v -l". The odds are that > it > lists a PCI ID for your NIC that the FreeBSD driver doesn't know > about. > Use that information to update /usr/src/sys/pci/if_rlreg.h and > /usr/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c, and see whether that gets you a > working > driver. If you're not sure how to do this, post the pciconf info > for > just your NIC so that others can try to update the code and get > you a > working driver... > > -- > -Chuck > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:44:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7F216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie (mail.emmplus.ie [66.154.97.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE38E43D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jev@ecad.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211E0CD45E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emmplus.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cohiba.emmplus.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44669-04 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (unknown [24.86.96.131]) by mail.emmplus.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9DBCACF2 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <423F2403.10200@ecad.org> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:44:03 -0800 From: Jev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at emmplus.ie Subject: make installworld target for Minimal/Developer/etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:44:30 -0000 Hi All, During standard sysinstall, we get the option of installing a Minimal System, a Developer System. etc. When doing a "make installworld" I would like to be able to make a "Minimal Install", having a make target for this seems reasonable to me, but perhaps not technically sound. Is there a way to do this? Documentation? I see a use for this, when installing jails for example, or for possibly creating binary updates for an existing "Minimal System". Advice appreciated! -Jev PS. Please CC me on reply, as I am not currently subscribed to questions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:50:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:50:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4CF43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:50:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2LJo6MW173892; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:50:11 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1D2281A0C0F; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32FF1A0C0A; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:56:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:56:03 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: RacerX In-Reply-To: <20050321133424.B84708@makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> <20050321133424.B84708@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:50:17 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, RacerX wrote: > Oh for fucks sakes, stop insulting the folks that are offering solutions. > Like I posted before - upgrade your firmware to meet FBSD half way . > > How do you expect an OS written for 2005 to play well with shit that was made > in 97? > > Get a grip, stop insulting us - we're NOT the enemy here. However, YOUare > makeing them. Don't lose your cool with this guy. He is spoiling for a fight, is technically crippled and ignorant. I have a feeling he is an enthusiast/hobbyist, and not a real professional. The recurring theme in all of his posts is simple: its someone elses fault. Never some bit of ignorance on his part. Ever. Now, ignorance is what I consider to be a temporary, albeit correctable condition. What he has is crossing over to willful stupidity. He wants someone to provide him with a magic wand, and with none to be had, he sulks very publically, calls everyone a moron through veiled little jabs, and starts the cycle all over again. This is why he is killfiled on my end. You should do the same. This guy is a typical camping troll. He sits on the list, whines about how everything in the world is anyone's fault BUT his. I am sure he has snowed alot of people in his time, by extrapolating his meager knowledge into semantic B.S., don't let him get under your skin. I don't. Truth be told, the guy is probably just frustrated, lacks real social skills, and just dosent know how to deal with lack of knowledge on an issue. Don't let that drive you into spewing hard hearted vulgar responses. When you do that, he wins. He feels the squeaky whiny wheel gets the grease. What he dosent understand is, in this world, you have to meet people half way. You have to try to work with people, instead of setting up roadblocks. Oh well. Relax, and enjoy some peace and quiet mail filtering has to offer. =) -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:52:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744D816A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE4D43D39 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BDD60E4 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:51:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84731-10 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:51:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A44AC60F4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:51:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0F160F3 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:51:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:51:54 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050321133424.B84708@makeworld.com> Message-ID: <20050321134557.H84786@makeworld.com> References: <5810323424.20050321052023@wanadoo.fr> <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> <20050321133424.B84708@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:02 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, RacerX wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Ted Mittelstaedt writes: >> >>> The problem is you just don't want it to be a hardware problem because >>> you don't accept the possibility that the NT driver wrote around a >>> hardware problem and the FreeBSD driver doesen't. >> >> No, I don't want to run on a wild goose chase just because it hurts >> someone's pride to think that FreeBSD might have a bug. >> >> The only thing that changed on this machine was a move from Windows NT >> to FreeBSD. Therefore the source of the problem is FreeBSD. >> >>> Despite the fact that making up for hardware problems with >>> writearounds in the software drivers is a common thing in the >>> industry. >> >> That would explain the "quirks" coding in FreeBSD, then, wouldn't it? >> Or is this only bad when other operating systems do it? >> >>> So you won't do the testing to prove that it is or isn't a hardware >>> bug, and thus you can continue pretending to yourself that it must be >>> software, and thus not your responsibility. >> >> Nobody here knows enough about FreeBSD to even tell me what its messages >> mean; I don't see any particular reason to knock myself out indulging >> their baseless conjectures. >> >> -- >> Anthony >> > Oh for fucks sakes, stop insulting the folks that are offering solutions. > Like I posted before - upgrade your firmware to meet FBSD half way . > > How do you expect an OS written for 2005 to play well with shit that was made > in 97? > > Get a grip, stop insulting us - we're NOT the enemy here. However, YOUare > makeing them. > > Best regards, > Chris You need to remember something Anthony, we're all doing this based on our experiances w/FreeBSD - we don't get paid to lend our experiances. You have some options: 1. Investigate EVERY avenue at your disposal (including your hardware) 2. PAY for FreeBSD support (Yes, you can do that) 3. Go back to WindowsNT - and leave us alone. Remember, we're here to help each other out when we can - not insult everyone, not bitch and moan when you can't have your way, not throw tantrums when others wish for you be forthcoming and do your part to determine the issues (again, even considering your hardware etc.) And certainly not argue the points of one OS over another. I imagine that once you do all of the above - the folks here may think differantly of you. However, if that's of no issue to you, and all you want to do is feed negitive vibes here, I'm sure many of us can assit you in the removal of you from the list. Best regards and warm hugs Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 19:52:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0958416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.paystone.com (yvr-n-01.paystone.com [209.53.184.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B565743D5C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from moose@mmoose.net) Received: by mail.paystone.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7421D1E4E4; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.paystone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AA11E485; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.paystone.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.paystone.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95733-02; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.91] (unknown [192.168.2.253]) by mail.paystone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BF61E4DE; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:52:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423F275B.9080308@mmoose.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:58:19 -0800 From: Matt Crossley User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JP References: <20050321192618.88617.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050321192618.88617.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: at paystone.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing libnss_winbind.so file..where do I get this? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:52:33 -0000 JP wrote: >Hello, > >I'm making progress slowy but surely with my install of Samba. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 and appear to be missing or unable to locate libnss_winbind.so . Do you know how/where I get this? > >Thanks! > > When I installed winbind with nsswitch, I found the appropriate files in: /usr/ports/net/samba3/work/samba-3.0.11/source/nsswitch/nss_winbind.so I just checked my system, and I didn't rename the file to libnss_winbind.so, I left them as original. HTH, MM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 20:04:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC2716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:04:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9CC43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:04:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDT8y-000CuI-Qz; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:04:56 -0500 Received: from 209.134.164.137 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:04:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3223.209.134.164.137.1111435496.squirrel@209.134.164.137> In-Reply-To: <88453814.20050320093232@wanadoo.fr> References: <583197724.20050319103813@wanadoo.fr> <20050319112231.GA35477@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <88453814.20050320093232@wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:04:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Serious issue with SATA disks again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:04:58 -0000 > I don't think Western Digital has one (?). If it does, where can I find > it? Here is WDC's data lifeguard utility for DOS: http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp?cxml=n&pid=2&swid=30 Also, you might want to try flashing the firmware for the controller/motherboard with the lastest versions. I've had several occaisons recently where I couldn't get hardware to work with BSD until I got up to the lastest firmware (an old dell perc 2 most recently). I didn't see the original email, so I may be off-base on the controller being the problem, though. Jerry http://www.syslog.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 20:09:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE0716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2AFD43D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:09:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 58913 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 20:09:07 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (HELO localhost) (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 20:09:07 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, John DeStefano Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:08:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2533020.kA7FiGyxkP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503212109.07036.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: sshd configuration after mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:09:15 -0000 --nextPart2533020.kA7FiGyxkP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 21 March 2005 18:55:18, John DeStefano wrote: > I've just completed a successful transition from 5.3-BETA7 to > 5.3-RELEASE via the usual "makeworld" procedures. Thanks to spending > some time with "mergemaster -p", all of my configuration seems to have > carried over and is working perfectly, with the exception of ssh. The > only difference between the original and temporary versions of > sshd_config was a single line I had entered in order to prevent "root" > from logging in via ssh as "root". Everything else, with the obvious > exception of the config file signature, was the same. > > Yet I'm now getting errors when I try to ssh from any location > (remote, LAN, even testing on the same terminal). If I don't do "-v", > the terminal window just disappears or shows no feedback. "-v" shows > "no more authentication methods to try". This points to commitment of rev. 1.35 for me: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config.diff?r= 1=3D1.34&r2=3D1.35&f=3Dh Cheers ch =2D-=20 Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE=20 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --nextPart2533020.kA7FiGyxkP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCPyni09WjGjvKU74RAuU9AJ4sBPhi/AiBoULNJTTtRi+HH0WjUwCdEv8I j/IOgK/UvnWX8/rX63q2KYE= =lsDx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2533020.kA7FiGyxkP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 20:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2AB43D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:18 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=tg4cCxlh=R7=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2LKLHpW018160 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:21:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:17 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: /TFRvpEtpBYVD8IyCUV7Cq1SLsF1YU6HV5r7/kgW58rC24CZC4dyGVHyIADLdtnEUnYANGPSIbpY7ePU3EOhbA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQj8svTFqW1BleBN9AQEvsQf5Ae9iZhNLR/08i2xSuQ86e64o6jF8eAY5 3M0myihsEPHAeYeapkyZQrKLIeMaC/dkCH/p1YGrLuONZ+HEFfWHEDynhbMC3yLR fMCBIRK9XEnpUczpPYVwfVmu2kSa9QcIjIvkPKMB3BtS/ATTmGDohIkSrB3HiGHj NhO49GM/4AWpsbiOAaHmdnU/jwe7l3RbDpy1+mEXWYWff0IlVRdhobj0bHSQ9QGV ErOQ/fq8NQgLNcD9DSAayxzwWgJ5rTxpn6jFypd7IgIFHLdLvIFcl2b5YKXzsDvC l3O/pR70exFEfAYrL89AjzuWAziPT3xyoqTcOpH4h7v+dh9CEQ3puw== =81Z9 Subject: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:19 -0000 Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): --------------------------------------------- asarian-host: {root} % make install cp zlib.h zconf.h /usr/local/include chmod 644 /usr/local/include/zlib.h /usr/local/include/zconf.h cp libz.a /usr/local/lib cd /usr/local/lib; chmod 755 libz.a cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f libz.so libz.so.1; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; (ldconfig || true) >/dev/null 2>&1; fi cp zlib.3 /usr/local/share/man/man3 chmod 644 /usr/local/share/man/man3/zlib.3 asarian-host: {root} % find /usr/ -name "libz.*" | xargs ls -la -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 61898 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so -> libz.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 52108 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 74486 Mar 21 21:01 /usr/local/lib/libz.a --------------------------------------------- So, where is the new shared library, libz.so? I only see libz.a installed. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 20:25:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A9F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:25:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC4843D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so760127wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:24:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pE4lSI3Oq2zXJlef/tSGj6LqGcoT7lGKBtvfkhrfB75n7JEdIHmRBsEwrsGIbi3rhviyxpViIjuyA1dBioWMdlg6Hi6qGss9/aG4qWhy+abTRvQcbZGr0QZxCuQsa4JiWvZFg3b0irC7/X7snlLRomZ2rH8Z/Mfn7UPaK9Sqhhg= Received: by 10.54.27.79 with SMTP id a79mr2318598wra; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:24:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:24:57 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:25:01 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:39:11 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Show me that it's not a bug in FreeBSD first. Alternatively, show us it is not a firmware problem first. > I never had the problem > in Windows NT. Yawn. I had loads of problems with NT, virtually none with Win2K. Your argument is meaningless. > I'm not going to upgrade every bit of hardware and > software in the box just to prove it _isn't_ FreeBSD, when FreeBSD > represents the only change to a machine that has run without fail for > eight years. I also don't believe in throwing darts to solve problems. It's not throwing darts, it's sensible advice. NT is ancient, like your firmware no doubt. > -- > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 20:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from larfur.svaka.net (larfur.svaka.net [213.176.155.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3A643D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gestur@svaka.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by mx.svaka.net (BOGOMAIL) id j2LKU0X3054878 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:00 GMT (envelope-from gestur@svaka.net) Received: from T42pGAG (adsl-11-86.simnet.is [157.157.117.86]) by mx1.svaka.net (BOGOMAIL) with ESMTP id j2LKTq7x054743 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:29:52 GMT (envelope-from gestur@svaka.net) Message-Id: <200503212029.j2LKTq7x054743@mx1.svaka.net> From: "G.A.Grjetarsson" To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:29:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcUuVLyDrRHF7aiKT+KqV2xFTuVa+g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.6 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS, HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE,USER_IN_WHITELIST scanned=Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:29:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on larfur.svaka.net X-scanner: Scanned by Xamime-LT and McAfee Viruscan, no virus found Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: support problem FreeBSD 5.3 on x346_8840_2AG X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:08 -0000 Hi I was setting up FreeBSD on IBM x346 box, but have problems getting all hardware to work The server config is: IBM x346 Adaptek HostRaid controller 2 * Broadcomm NetXtreme 1Gig ethernet On the HostRaid controller I setup raid1 with 3 hdd's but the freebsd doesnt' see the logical partition it only sees the physical disks to work with... The FreeBSD also doesn't recognize the NetXtreme ethernet's Can someone help me out in this This is the dmesg info from the server from the last boot: root@dimon.svaka.net:/var/log>more dmesg.yesterday Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 18 19:03:11 UTC 2005 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3200.14-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147274752 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095804416 (1998 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic4 irqs 96-119 on motherboard ioapic3 irqs 72-95 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x588-0x58b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.PCI1 - AE_NOT_F OUND pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci2 pci4: on pcib3 rl0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xcffffc00-0xcffffcff ir q 96 at device 4.0 on pci4 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:11:3b:01:33:ef pcib4: at device 4.0 on pci0 pcib4: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.PCI4 - AE_NOT_F OUND pci5: on pcib4 pci5: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib5: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib5 pci6: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib6: at device 6.0 on pci0 pcib6: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.PCI5 - AE_NOT_F OUND pci7: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 0.0 on pci7 pci8: on pcib7 ahd0: port 0x5100-0x51ff,0x5000-0x50ff m em 0xc9ffe000-0xc9ffffff irq 27 at device 7.0 on pci8 ahd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, 512 SCBs ahd1: port 0x5300-0x53ff,0x5200-0x52ff m em 0xc9ffc000-0xc9ffdfff irq 24 at device 7.1 on pci8 ahd1: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 101-133Mhz, 512 SCBs pcib8: at device 0.2 on pci7 pci9: on pcib8 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x2200-0x221f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x2600-0x261f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib9: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib9 pci1: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x480-0x48f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f 6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: unable to set the command byte. kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: unable to set the command byte. fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xcc800-0xcdfff,0xcb000-0xcc7ff,0xc0000-0xcafff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: DVDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Interrupt storm detected on "irq16: uhci0"; throttling interrupt source ses0 at ahd1 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: 3.300MB/s transfers ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device da0 at ahd1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabl ed da0: 34715MB (71096640 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4425C) da1 at ahd1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabl ed da1: 34715MB (71096640 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4425C) da2 at ahd1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 127, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enab led da2: 34715MB (71096640 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4425C) da3 at ahd1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabl ed da3: 34715MB (71096640 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4425C) SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a fire_saver: the console does not support M_VGA_CG320 module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (fire_saver, 0xc3ad3be0, 0) error 19 module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ibcs2, 0xc3af3e90, 0) error 45 Thanks in advance Gestur From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 21:10:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BEE16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (10.188.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch [195.186.188.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492AD43D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LLCq1N087869; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:12:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2LLCqWr087868; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:12:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:12:52 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Freek Nossin Message-ID: <20050321211252.GF82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Freek Nossin , 'Martin Schweizer' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050321053046.GB82075@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050321095553.7B2FD14BD5C@pastinakel.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321095553.7B2FD14BD5C@pastinakel.tue.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: 'Martin Schweizer' Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:10:37 -0000 --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did you a make deinstall? Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > Sorry I looked over your other questions.=20 >=20 > I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't needed.= =20 > I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel.=20 > I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation.=20 > My X-version is the latest xorg.=20 > I have also got jdk14 installed.=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch]=20 > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31 > To: Freek Nossin > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process >=20 > What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then make > install? >=20 > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old.=20 > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > >=20 > > > Hello Freek > > >=20 > > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X-Versi= on? > > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > > >=20 > > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of its= =20 > > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, not= =20 > > > > even > > > as > > > > root with > > > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling=20 > > > > list, but > > > I > > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042264. > > > > html > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042162. > > > > html > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042222. > > > > html > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042204. > > > > html > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042488. > > > > html > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > November/042156. > > > > html > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 > > > -- > > >=20 > > > Regards > > > Gruss > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > >=20 > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > >=20 > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon=20 > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22;=20 > > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key :=20 > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Regards > Gruss > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen >=20 > Martin Schweizer > >=20 > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41= 55 > 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; >=20 --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPzjUwa4WkdMP0jkRAlU+AJ4kYbNIzLgtPQ7PQASgh1vDRoX4hQCfdVgD LAkd93v76NPk0Fnpd1ri+Fc= =L9zV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:02:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B11916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:02:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E8843D1F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roeland.hemsteede@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so1178627rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SftLyBQw4Hwl1tFtM92Y1ICSFP0BWfmw+oaK2ybNhbuChIrQ4T0a73iHXRUsCpK/UR90FxPo6EH6a2CkWLbalajRPUDMsG6uVwNqu/IhJtACOsdVNTC3OTP2fmKp6NMCsiwC0KzFg/Lvk1UR1UEnxxpoW9P5HcX2RW8uV4a1uQc= Received: by 10.38.12.26 with SMTP id 26mr5004238rnl; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([84.31.79.197]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h17sm451585rnb.2005.03.21.14.02.04; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:01:59 +0100 From: Roeland Hemsteede User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:02:07 -0000 Hello, Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that returns with the following error bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean You may use the following additional build option: WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with the www/suphp port [default: no] Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. bash-3.00# After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got the same error. Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin installed and working? Thanks in advance, Roeland From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:05:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDC916A4D0 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:05:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739E543D54 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:05:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.nossin@student.tue.nl) Received: from edsger (195-241-9-180-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.241.9.180]) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441528012485; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:05:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Freek Nossin" To: "'Martin Schweizer'" Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:05:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050321211252.GF82075@saturn.pcs.ms> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcUuWnexKnbfcyQOR3iHh9C1KGufRwAB0XfA Message-Id: <20050321220523.441528012485@smtp-out0.tiscali.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:05:35 -0000 Do you mean reinstall? I could try, but as you might know, installing OpenOffice requires a lot of time, patience and workload of your system = (not to mention hd-space). But if I did? Why would it be any different? That = is, assuming I go again for a default install with no other options.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 22:13 > To: Freek Nossin > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process >=20 > Did you a make deinstall? >=20 > Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > Sorry I looked over your other questions. > > > > I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't > needed. > > I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel. > > I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation. > > My X-version is the latest xorg. > > I have also got jdk14 installed. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31 > > To: Freek Nossin > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then = make > > install? > > > > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > > > Hello Freek > > > > > > > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X- > Version? > > > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > > > > > > > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of = its > > > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, = not > > > > > even > > > > as > > > > > root with > > > > > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling > > > > > list, but > > > > I > > > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042264. > > > > > html > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042162. > > > > > html > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042222. > > > > > html > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042204. > > > > > html > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042488. > > > > > html > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > November/042156. > > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Gruss > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > Gruss > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon = Tel. > +41 55 > > 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public = key : > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > >=20 > -- >=20 > Regards > Gruss > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen >=20 > Martin Schweizer > >=20 > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; = http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:10:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDD916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:10:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (10.188.186.195.cust.bluewin.ch [195.186.188.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FEC43D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:10:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LMD43F088124; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2LMD4Tn088123; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:04 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Freek Nossin Message-ID: <20050321221304.GH82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Freek Nossin , 'Martin Schweizer' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050321211252.GF82075@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050321220523.441528012485@smtp-out0.tiscali.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321220523.441528012485@smtp-out0.tiscali.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: 'Martin Schweizer' Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:10:45 -0000 --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know oo needs a lot of time for compiling. That is the last idea I had.= =20 Did you ask the people from superoffice.org? I did a default installation= =20 twice on separate freebsd boxes without problems. Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:05:23PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > Do you mean reinstall? I could try, but as you might know, installing > OpenOffice requires a lot of time, patience and workload of your system (= not > to mention hd-space). But if I did? Why would it be any different? That i= s, > assuming I go again for a default install with no other options.=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 22:13 > > To: Freek Nossin > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > >=20 > > Did you a make deinstall? > >=20 > > Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > Sorry I looked over your other questions. > > > > > > I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't > > needed. > > > I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel. > > > I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation. > > > My X-version is the latest xorg. > > > I have also got jdk14 installed. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31 > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then make > > > install? > > > > > > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > > > > > Hello Freek > > > > > > > > > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X- > > Version? > > > > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > > > > > > > > > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one of = its > > > > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process, = not > > > > > > even > > > > > as > > > > > > root with > > > > > > > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling > > > > > > list, but > > > > > I > > > > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042264. > > > > > > html > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042162. > > > > > > html > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042222. > > > > > > html > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042204. > > > > > > html > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042488. > > > > > > html > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > November/042156. > > > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Gruss > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > > > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards > > > Gruss > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. > > +41 55 > > > 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public ke= y : > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > > >=20 > > -- > >=20 > > Regards > > Gruss > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > >=20 > > Martin Schweizer > > > >=20 > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards Gruss Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP0bvwa4WkdMP0jkRAuVqAKCUaLJETpy8tVO2z3okKWOCuFotswCgxkO+ IQ122XovmL95GRkOvyDyQKU= =3FTR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O8XZ+2Hy8Kj8wLPZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:18:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F5716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:18:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DF943D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LMIdGC016173; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:18:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2LMIcp6017877; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:18:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2LMIbpi028858; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:18:38 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDVEL-000800-00; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:18:37 +0100 Message-ID: <423F482C.2070400@web.de> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:18:20 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <423EFE41.6040805@web.de> <56b90b3668acea792519e1e70a7b837a@mac.com> <423F05F2.3010101@web.de> <7c82a2d1780970b84810aefc59bdb295@mac.com> <423F17D9.70802@web.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIN_WAIT_2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:18:42 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > If the TCP connection is in FIN_WAIT_2, FreeBSD may send out ACKs > periodicly, trying to nudge the other side to send a FIN to finish > closing the connection. This is indeed the case (when I interpret the tcpdump output correct): 21:19:20.139373 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 0 21:19:20.139543 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 65535 21:24:05.098980 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 0 21:24:05.099151 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 65535 . . AND SO ON :-) . 22:11:34.665056 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 0 22:11:34.665225 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 65535 22:16:19.621661 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 0 22:16:19.621824 IP HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131: . ack 2918467318 win 65535 HTTP_SERVER.http > HTTP_CLIENT.63131 is in FIN_WAIT_2 state. After the last line it stopped and go away from FIN_WAIT_2 as expteced (timeout...). And the firewall rejects/drops exactly those packages. The client is not responding. Greetings, Robert! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:19:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B17016A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from reiche.trumpetpower.com (reiche.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB38943D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@trumpetpower.com) Received: from [65.39.81.114] (doc.trumpetpower.com [65.39.81.114]) (authenticated bits=0)j2LMJPoA019563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:19:26 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <200503212048.j2LKmciM016556@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503212048.j2LKmciM016556@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-12--7631214" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ben Goren Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:19:14 -0700 To: Theo de Raadt X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: lhallenbeck@ansi.org cc: Richard Stallman cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Doug Richardson cc: Raymond Lillard cc: info@ansi.org cc: freebsd list cc: mark_salyzyn@adaptec.com Subject: Re: GPL Upheld in Mich -- Seems Relevant to Adaptec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail-12--7631214 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 2005 Mar 21, at 1:48 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Claiming ISO-9001 when you are not following the processes can > get Adaptec into serious legal problems. The Internet is a fascinating thing. I certainly won't claim to be an expert on these matters, but the quick research I've done since I got Theo's note has done plenty to back this statement. (For those of you just joining us, this Slashdot article has links to relevant emails: http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/20/1944233 ) I make no claims for the validity of the sources I cite. This is not a formal investigation of the matter. Corrections are most welcome. First, as to the question of Adaptec and ISO 9001, this press release, dated 1995 September 13 http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Hardware/ADAPTEC/literature/0913nr.txt states: > The Electronics Industries Quality > Registry has granted ISO 9001 certification to Adaptec for the "design > and > manufacture of integrated circuits," according to a statement released > today by Adaptec CEO Grant Saviers. My casual search provided no indication that the certification has been revoked. Since I would think that such revocation would be big news, I assume that they still hold their certification. We have already heard from a former Adaptec employee that the quality of their RAID products is questionable: http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archive/openbsd-misc/200503/ msg01250.html I don't know when Scott worked at Adaptec, but I rather suspect that he was there for at least some time in the past decade. Next, we move on to what ISO 9001 specifies. The document is expensive to obtain, but there are free summaries available, including this one: http://praxiom.com/iso-9001.htm http://praxiom.com/iso-9001-b.htm Everything that Theo has been asking for is easily covered by what's described in those documents. (I *knew* I wasn't nuts for thinking that these requests are standard outside the IT industry!) Some particularly relevant bullet points include: > 7.3.2 Define design and development inputs > * Specify product design and development inputs. > * Record product design and development input definitions. > * Review product design and development input definitions. > > 7.3.3 Generate design and development outputs > * Create product design and development outputs. > * Approve design and development outputs prior to release. > * Use design and development outputs to control product quality. Now, I know the bureaucratic mind well enough to realize that, in the full ISO 9001 specification, this might be defined into uselessness. Perhaps ``input'' and ``output'' in this context are more closely related to ``shotput'' and ``kaput.'' But I doubt it. It would also seem that we are, AT THIS VERY MOMENT, witnessing a breakdown of ISO 9001's remedial requirements. > 8.2.1 Monitor and measure customer satisfaction > * Identify ways to monitor and measure customer satisfaction. > * Monitor and measure customer satisfaction. > * Use customer satisfaction information. Here we have customers who have purchased THOUSANDS of units from Adaptec up in arms...yet there is no indication that Adaptec is using that information in any productive fashion at all. Since we seem to be talking into a black hole, it may well be that they aren't even monitoring customer satisfaction--let alone measuring it. Again, I'm brand-new to this whole ISO 9001 thing. It's obviously quite comprehensive, but it also looks like it's mostly common sense. Plan what you're going to do before you do it, follow (and amend) your plans, document and test everything. Get help from your customers and give them what they ask for. Even if Adaptec has been following the letter of ISO 9001, this recent brouhaha pretty clearly demonstrates that they haven't been following its spirit. Cheers, b& --Apple-Mail-12--7631214 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCP0hnpxyAy2XznCMRAtSlAJ0edBqyFYOSaju4Pk+ZohJzQalM+wCbBzY7 owNxwQbImPIWuOIqEw2AhwE= =hH9c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-12--7631214-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312C616A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CCE43D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@x3k6a2.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp from pd9e46ae7.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.228.106.231] helo=x3k6a2) id 1DDVRL-0004xa-2p; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:02 +0100 From: X3K6A2 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:32:05 -0000 > Hello, > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that > returns with the following error > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean > You may use the following additional build option: > WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with > the www/suphp port [default: no] > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. > bash-3.00# > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got > the same error. > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin > installed and working? > Thanks in advance, > Roeland Hi, please provide us with the output of pkg_info when was the last time you updated your ports tree? as a quick workaround I would suggest installing phpmyadmin directly. regards Sebastian Steenbuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:34:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381FF16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FF743D5C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roeland.hemsteede@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so930519wra for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:34:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hsz3c3dtUrPSdGtyXYJVVesgEcBDFcABcmGWMXTK9c9XBSpcth47HpSgZ/2op+5qzT70LWELS+W8kZlBz3a3cMIolSzn6Yy1jHYy0iwIEfGpzvIGTUFlUnRliT35N5O2SKP3mcatCMXhVmRcneFwmG7xXBevTSuoe+3D+90uCwU= Received: by 10.54.29.61 with SMTP id c61mr5353569wrc; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.52 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:34:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e3502c80503211434224e9002@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:34:29 +0100 From: Roeland Hemsteede To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> Subject: Re: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roeland Hemsteede List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:34:30 -0000 of wich package should I provide the output of pkg_info? also I installed everything on this computer today including the ports list and such so thats up to date On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:02 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: > > Hello, > > > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. > > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd > > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that > > returns with the following error > > > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean > > > You may use the following additional build option: > > > WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with > > the www/suphp port [default: no] > > > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. > > *** Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. > > bash-3.00# > > > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got > > the same error. > > > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin > > installed and working? > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Roeland > > Hi, > > please provide us with the output of > pkg_info > when was the last time you updated your ports tree? > > as a quick workaround I would suggest installing phpmyadmin directly. > > regards > > Sebastian Steenbuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:39:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8993016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300DA43D4C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@x3k6a2.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp from pd9e46ae7.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.228.106.231] helo=x3k6a2) id 1DDVYH-0005nf-7Q; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:39:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:39:12 +0100 From: X3K6A2 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6711769328.20050321233912@x3k6a2.net> To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <6e3502c80503211434224e9002@mail.gmail.com> References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> <6e3502c80503211434224e9002@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[2]: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:39:14 -0000 > of wich package should I provide the output of pkg_info? also I > installed everything on this computer today including the ports list > and such so thats up to date > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:02 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: >> > Hello, >> >> > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. >> > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd >> > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that >> > returns with the following error >> >> > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean >> >> > You may use the following additional build option: >> >> > WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with >> > the www/suphp port [default: no] >> >> > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. >> > *** Error code 1 >> >> > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. >> > bash-3.00# >> >> > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got >> > the same error. >> >> > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin >> > installed and working? >> >> > Thanks in advance, >> >> > Roeland >> >> Hi, >> >> please provide us with the output of >> pkg_info >> when was the last time you updated your ports tree? >> >> as a quick workaround I would suggest installing phpmyadmin directly. >> >> regards >> >> Sebastian Steenbuck >> Hi, I meaned pkg_info without any arguments. regards Sebastian Steenbuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:42:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E681116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:42:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C6E43D5C for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roeland.hemsteede@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so802518wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:42:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jRdwPI9znxIKOTC0CP8v4WGn+NE27z4S6VQxHy4H0ZKPXDsKeCxR4ns9R5wBfB3NMWTtK8GpNb6EnVfidRVfJ50GCUwAuBRo3qR2n29SW9O2A0jMFCImP/Xx06SDXduVhSwPR5FWIJwU5E0eIkQ4trVQErrdO2S+3ZzT5pqfmXo= Received: by 10.54.57.66 with SMTP id f66mr470955wra; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.29.52 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:42:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e3502c8050321144233468128@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:42:27 +0100 From: Roeland Hemsteede To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <6711769328.20050321233912@x3k6a2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> <6e3502c80503211434224e9002@mail.gmail.com> <6711769328.20050321233912@x3k6a2.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roeland Hemsteede List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:42:29 -0000 bash-3.00# pkg_info apache-2.0.53_1 Version 2 of Apache web server with prefork MPM. autoconf-2.53_3 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms automake-1.5_2,1 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (version 1.5) bash-3.0_5 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell bison-1.75_2 A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc cracklib-2.7_2 Password-checking library curl-7.13.1_1 Non-interactive tool to get files from FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) cvsup-without-gui-16.1h General network file distribution system optimized for CVS expat-1.95.8 XML 1.0 parser written in C gettext-0.13.1_1 GNU gettext package gmake-3.80_2 GNU version of 'make' utility help2man-1.35.1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o ispell-3.2.06_11 An interactive spelling checker for multiple languages libiconv-1.9.2_1 A character set conversion library libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) libtool-1.5.10_1 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) libxml2-2.6.18 XML parser library for GNOME libxslt-1.1.13 The XSLT C library for GNOME linux_base-7.1_7 The base set of packages needed in Linux mode m4-1.4.1 GNU m4 mysql-client-4.0.24 Multithreaded SQL database (client) nmap-3.81 Port scanning utility for large networks p5-gettext-1.03 Message handling functions pcre-5.0 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library perl-5.8.5 Practical Extraction and Report Language php4-bcmath-4.3.10_2 The bcmath shared extension for php php4-bz2-4.3.10_2 The bz2 shared extension for php php4-calendar-4.3.10_2 The calendar shared extension for php php4-cgi-4.3.9 PHP Common Gateway Interface php4-crack-4.3.10_2 The crack shared extension for php php4-ctype-4.3.10_2 The ctype shared extension for php php4-curl-4.3.10_2 The curl shared extension for php php4-dba-4.3.10_2 The dba shared extension for php php4-dbase-4.3.10_2 The dbase shared extension for php php4-dbx-4.3.10_2 The dbx shared extension for php php4-dio-4.3.10_2 The dio shared extension for php php4-domxml-4.3.10_2 The domxml shared extension for php php4-exif-4.3.10_2 The exif shared extension for php pico-4.61 PIne's message COmposition editor pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 A utility used to retrieve information about installed libr suphp-0.5.2_1 Securely execute ~user PHP scripts bash-3.00# On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:39:12 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: > > of wich package should I provide the output of pkg_info? also I > > installed everything on this computer today including the ports list > > and such so thats up to date > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:02 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > >> > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. > >> > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd > >> > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that > >> > returns with the following error > >> > >> > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean > >> > >> > You may use the following additional build option: > >> > >> > WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with > >> > the www/suphp port [default: no] > >> > >> > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. > >> > *** Error code 1 > >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. > >> > bash-3.00# > >> > >> > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got > >> > the same error. > >> > >> > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin > >> > installed and working? > >> > >> > Thanks in advance, > >> > >> > Roeland > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> please provide us with the output of > >> pkg_info > >> when was the last time you updated your ports tree? > >> > >> as a quick workaround I would suggest installing phpmyadmin directly. > >> > >> regards > >> > >> Sebastian Steenbuck > >> > > Hi, > > I meaned pkg_info without any arguments. > > regards > > Sebastian Steenbuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:45:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196A716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:45:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-out.iptelecom.net.ua (mail-out.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FD543D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h67.242.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.242.67]:65226 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "vkushnir") by pechkin.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S361291AbVCUWpQ (INRCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:45:16 +0200 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (kushnir1.kiev.ua [10.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LMjD6m090341 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:45:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:45:13 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-X-Sender: vkushnir@kushnir1.kiev.ua To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050322003507.B88980@kushnir1.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Fonts problem with Linux progs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:45:20 -0000 Hi all, The $SUBJ sais it all. After installation linux_base-8 + linux-XFree86 libs no Linux program using fontconfig library can find fonts and asks to configure fontconfig properly. What's the "proper" configuration for it? I tried to put both real (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TT and so on) and chrooted (/compat/linux/... and so on) into /compat/linux/etc/fonts/fonts.conf, put fonts (or links to them) under /compat/linux/usr/{X11R6... of share..., or local...} to no avail. What am I to do? Environement: FreeBSD-CURRENT, xorg-6.8.1, KDE (CVS) as primary desktop. TIA, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:49:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF5416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:49:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBCB43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:49:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237BA3C282F; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:49:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <423F4F77.9080708@toldme.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:49:27 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex D'Elia References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> In-Reply-To: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wow ! 5.3 -> 5.4 -> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:49:35 -0000 Alex D'Elia wrote: >Hello dear people @ freebsd > >something wonderfull ( at least in my case ) happened >since the last update of the base system on a sony vaio >laptop ( CPU: Intel Pentium III (694.84-MHz 686-class CPU) ) > >before, when the machine was compiling, it was getting >at 82 degrees with 100% CPU > >now, with 100% CPU it gets at maximum 52 degrees. > > Hello, Totally un-scientific, but I have been watching tempurature the past few days with gkrellm. I thought your report sounded pretty fantastic, so I HAD to try it out. I made world, etc. And while making world, tempurature climbed rapidly to top tempurature of 144.5F. Since booting in to the new world, and running portmanager -u, as well as streaming, plenty of work to keep the system quite loaded, it took some time to get past 120F, and now seems to top out around ... 142.7F it says now. It took a long time to get past 140F. It seems that if thre IS a difference, that maybe it takes longer to build up heat now? Ah well . . . Thanks, -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:57:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C581F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:57:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096AC43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:57:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@x3k6a2.net) Received: by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de running Exim 4.34 using asmtp from pd9e46ae7.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.228.106.231] helo=x3k6a2) id 1DDVpv-00081R-Rb; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:57:28 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:57:27 +0100 From: X3K6A2 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8112863968.20050321235727@x3k6a2.net> To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <6e3502c8050321144233468128@mail.gmail.com> References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> <2811339015.20050321233202@x3k6a2.net> <6e3502c80503211434224e9002@mail.gmail.com> <6711769328.20050321233912@x3k6a2.net> <6e3502c8050321144233468128@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[4]: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:57:29 -0000 > bash-3.00# pkg_info > apache-2.0.53_1 Version 2 of Apache web server with prefork MPM. > autoconf-2.53_3 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms > autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms > automake-1.5_2,1 GNU Standards-compliant Makefile generator (version 1.5) > bash-3.0_5 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell > bison-1.75_2 A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc > cracklib-2.7_2 Password-checking library > curl-7.13.1_1 Non-interactive tool to get files from FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) > cvsup-without-gui-16.1h General network file distribution system > optimized for CVS > expat-1.95.8 XML 1.0 parser written in C > gettext-0.13.1_1 GNU gettext package > gmake-3.80_2 GNU version of 'make' utility > help2man-1.35.1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o > ispell-3.2.06_11 An interactive spelling checker for multiple languages > libiconv-1.9.2_1 A character set conversion library > libtool-1.3.5_2 Generic shared library support script (version 1.3) > libtool-1.5.10_1 Generic shared library support script (version 1.5) > libxml2-2.6.18 XML parser library for GNOME > libxslt-1.1.13 The XSLT C library for GNOME > linux_base-7.1_7 The base set of packages needed in Linux mode > m4-1.4.1 GNU m4 > mysql-client-4.0.24 Multithreaded SQL database (client) > nmap-3.81 Port scanning utility for large networks > p5-gettext-1.03 Message handling functions > pcre-5.0 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library > perl-5.8.5 Practical Extraction and Report Language > php4-bcmath-4.3.10_2 The bcmath shared extension for php > php4-bz2-4.3.10_2 The bz2 shared extension for php > php4-calendar-4.3.10_2 The calendar shared extension for php > php4-cgi-4.3.9 PHP Common Gateway Interface > php4-crack-4.3.10_2 The crack shared extension for php > php4-ctype-4.3.10_2 The ctype shared extension for php > php4-curl-4.3.10_2 The curl shared extension for php > php4-dba-4.3.10_2 The dba shared extension for php > php4-dbase-4.3.10_2 The dbase shared extension for php > php4-dbx-4.3.10_2 The dbx shared extension for php > php4-dio-4.3.10_2 The dio shared extension for php > php4-domxml-4.3.10_2 The domxml shared extension for php > php4-exif-4.3.10_2 The exif shared extension for php > pico-4.61 PIne's message COmposition editor > pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 A utility used to retrieve information about installed libr > suphp-0.5.2_1 Securely execute ~user PHP scripts > bash-3.00# > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:39:12 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: >> > of wich package should I provide the output of pkg_info? also I >> > installed everything on this computer today including the ports list >> > and such so thats up to date >> >> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:02 +0100, X3K6A2 wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> >> >> >> > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. >> >> > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd >> >> > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that >> >> > returns with the following error >> >> >> >> > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean >> >> >> >> > You may use the following additional build option: >> >> >> >> > WITH_SUPHP=yes Install appropriately for use with >> >> > the www/suphp port [default: no] >> >> >> >> > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. >> >> > *** Error code 1 >> >> >> >> > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. >> >> > bash-3.00# >> >> >> >> > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got >> >> > the same error. >> >> >> >> > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin >> >> > installed and working? >> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> > Roeland >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> please provide us with the output of >> >> pkg_info >> >> when was the last time you updated your ports tree? >> >> >> >> as a quick workaround I would suggest installing phpmyadmin directly. >> >> >> >> regards >> >> >> >> Sebastian Steenbuck >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I meaned pkg_info without any arguments. >> >> regards >> >> Sebastian Steenbuck >> Hi, this is only a guess. I think that the port misses a php extension. (not a port) Try adding extension=mysql.so (extension=mysqli.so) to your /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini if you add mysqli.so you should also add a symbolic link with this name in /usr/local/lib/php/[some numbers here]/*.so pointing to mysql.so in the same directory. (also note that mysql.so should be in this directory) Try this at your own risk. (Any of this things can be removed, so there is not much risk) regards Sebastian Steenbuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 22:58:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C9716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:58:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E3243D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:58:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy.lame.at (unknown [213.235.192.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0C3000E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:58:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:58:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503212358.54982.haimat@lame.at> Subject: OT: howto install RT32? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:58:58 -0000 Hi all, I followed the FreeBSD installation instructions for RT32 on the RT wiki, and installed Request Tracker via ports. Then I modified my http.conf file as described on wiki, but after connecting to the new RT page, I get the "save as or open with" box from Firefox, because it's a PHTML file. Any ideas why? But I am not sure if this is really the RT login page, because when I save this phtml file and open it, I get the index.php page (as source) under the old DocumentRoot from before I modified the http.conf file... Any ideas on this? I did not found anything on Google :( Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- They said the same thing about Urkle; that little snot. Boy I'd like to smack that kid. -- Homer Simpson Bart Gets Famous From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:00:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521E316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:00:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65E643D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tummytech@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1282003rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ii2+UcjLSZQINJe2wZZc08kAa9daoOIzDN0rW5w2L2NxGJNAFF/dIKgHByRymtph8Z4mfv3SNFNoay0qLS6iEP8eH11VZI3EnnzRC+YZjkLDY4BGUBJ6yvqgjQ6eG97eiz+ri2bkfh/+rUthrbDF9P8e6VZWTDhPt3OLuSHE24g= Received: by 10.38.101.66 with SMTP id y66mr5740153rnb; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.88.37 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <860807bf05032115002fce7de2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:00:00 -0800 From: Benson Wong To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Does the mpt(4) driver work for the LSI Logic 929X chipset? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Benson Wong List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:00:01 -0000 Hi, I am thinking of getting an LSI Logic LSI7202XP-LC Fibre Channel card (uses 929X). I read the hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD 5.3 and it says there is full support for the 929 chipset. I was wondering if that also extends to the 929X as well. The "X" means that the card uses PCI-X. I am assuming that it would work, but a few loose assumptions has left me with a 5.6TB XServe RAID that I can't talk to! :( I also got the Apple FC card, which uses the 929X chipset, and FreeBSD does not recognize it at all. Supposedly Apple made some modifications to it but there's no way of seeing what those are. Also: When I boot the card into a Windows XP machine it says "New Hardware Found". So if anybody know if the LSI7202XP-LC with the 929X chipset would work, I would appreciate any experience you can share. On a side note (sort of related), does the GENERIC kernel on the installation ISO have the mpt(4) compiled into it? thanks. Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:13:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0126E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from liz.norscan.com (liz.norscan.com [207.161.138.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E74D43D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel.goertzen@norscan.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by liz.norscan.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2423186D65 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:13:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from liz.norscan.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (liz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30559-04 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:13:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from ren (dhcp-195.norscan.com [10.1.3.195]) by liz.norscan.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 68EEC186D61 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:13:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Daniel Goertzen" To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:13:08 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at norscan.com Subject: source code for pam modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:10 -0000 I am an embedded software developer and I was wondering if anyone could help me find the source code for the pam modules, specifically pam_tacplus. I looked through the ports collection, but couldn't find anything that had both pam and tacplus. I was underwhelmed at the ability of linux-pam to cross compile, but openpam worked like a champ. Cheers, Dan. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:23:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF46F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:23:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828A843D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:23:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2LNN5HZ047618; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:23:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:23:04 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Daniel Goertzen Message-ID: <20050321232304.GK5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: source code for pam modules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:23:06 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 21), Daniel Goertzen said: > I am an embedded software developer and I was wondering if anyone > could help me find the source code for the pam modules, specifically > pam_tacplus. I looked through the ports collection, but couldn't > find anything that had both pam and tacplus. pam_tacplus is part of the base system. Take a look at /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_tacplus , or if you don't have a full source tree checked out yet: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_tacplus/ -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:25:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C3716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:25:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD8843D41 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:25:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 28711 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 23:25:55 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2005 23:25:55 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 512A125; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:25:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Jean-Jacques Dhenin References: <20050321192039.GA21619@ecp.fr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Mar 2005 18:25:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050321192039.GA21619@ecp.fr> Message-ID: <44hdj4zim6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto extract only one channel from a wav file ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:25:55 -0000 Jean-Jacques Dhenin writes: > Howto extract only one channel from a wav file ? > > The left channel, for example, is very bad. > Howto get only the right one ? > > I dont find into xwave, sox, lame ... something for this use. The sox manual says: The -f and -b options maintain left/right stereo separation; use the avg effect twice to select a single channel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:28:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BFA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:28:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9F343D2D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:28:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so1094851rne for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=e8LSUSelcJdjJVi5u8hE0QsntOft+XOxbEKIiFr+78gzQV+HSMRCpm1fT9ckxy+eg+TEcg6deiI+4xl+ClHnbJUwPj1Kl5yaDDqEXocimzoq1njofjOJDeIn+3XJmr+2yhdEQI/h3npmUq+UxwM9W/XgdVEVHmNNHfmxtlNTzb4= Received: by 10.38.14.69 with SMTP id 69mr5762116rnn; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:28:47 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> In-Reply-To: <200503212109.07036.4711@chello.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503212109.07036.4711@chello.at> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd configuration after mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:28:50 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:08:50 +0100, Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2005 18:55:18, John DeStefano wrote: > > I've just completed a successful transition from 5.3-BETA7 to > > 5.3-RELEASE via the usual "makeworld" procedures. Thanks to spending > > some time with "mergemaster -p", all of my configuration seems to have > > carried over and is working perfectly, with the exception of ssh. The > > only difference between the original and temporary versions of > > sshd_config was a single line I had entered in order to prevent "root" > > from logging in via ssh as "root". Everything else, with the obvious > > exception of the config file signature, was the same. > > > > Yet I'm now getting errors when I try to ssh from any location > > (remote, LAN, even testing on the same terminal). If I don't do "-v", > > the terminal window just disappears or shows no feedback. "-v" shows > > "no more authentication methods to try". > > This points to commitment of rev. 1.35 for me: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config.diff?r1=1.34&r2=1.35&f=h Thanks ch. Yikes... should I have known this on my own? > > Cheers > ch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B3116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.fluidhosting.com (mail1.fluidhosting.com [66.150.201.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3F443D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@winters.cc) Received: (qmail 65610 invoked by uid 399); 21 Mar 2005 23:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.168.100?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 23:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:32:02 -0500 From: Rob Winters User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X problems with Dell Inspiron 2600s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:32:35 -0000 I have a couple of Dell Inspiron 2600s, and I can't run Xorg or Xfree86 on either of them from FreeBSD 5.3 Release. A Fedora Core 3 locks up solid with the same machines. I'd suspect a video hardware problem, except I have two failing machines, and "that Microsoft thing" works fine on both. The video is Intel 830M, and the display is a 1024x768 LCD. These should run with the i810 "family" drivers, I thought. I read about problems with earlier BIOSen, so I upgraded to the latest (A011), but no joy. I've tried a few things, but I'm probably going in circles at this point. So, I will keep it simple. Following is the config generated by the "Xorg -configure", followed by the log generated by "Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new. Help appreciated. Thanks! /// Rob P.S. Option "NoDDC" per TFM did not fix it. ----------------------------------------------- Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "CacheLines" # #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "NoDDC" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # #Option "PageFlip" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Intel Corp." BoardName "82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection ----------------------------------------------- Release Date: 18 December 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD trebor 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 16 October 2004 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Mar 21 18:05:52 2005 (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"). (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,3575 card 8086,1969 rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,3577 card 1028,00b8 rev 04 class 03,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 8086,3577 card 1028,00b8 rev 00 class 03,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,2482 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,2484 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card 0000,0000 rev 42 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,248c card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,248a card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2483 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2485 card 1028,00b8 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,2486 card 134d,4c21 rev 02 class 07,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:01:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 1028,00b8 rev 78 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 02:04:0: chip 1217,6972 card fffd,0000 rev 00 class 06,07,00 hdr 02 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 2 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00003400 - 0x000034ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00003800 - 0x000038ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00003c00 - 0x00003cff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe02fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (2:4:0), (2,3,4), BCTRL: 0x0400 (VGA_EN is cleared) (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 4, Mem @ 0xe8000000/27, 0xe0000000/19 (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 0, Mem @ 0xf0000000/27, 0xe0080000/19 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [8] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [9] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018ff (0x80) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x000018ff (0x100) IX[B]E (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001880 from 0x000018ff to 0x000018bf (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001800 from 0x000018ff to 0x0000181f (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [1] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [8] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [9] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [10] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [12] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E [13] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "drm" (II) LoadModule: "drm" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.a (II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "speedo" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a (II) Module speedo: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.1 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Speedo (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "i810" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o (II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0 (--) Chipset i830M found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [15] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E [11] 1 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [12] 1 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [13] 1 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [16] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E [18] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E [20] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E [21] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E [22] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E [23] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E [24] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E [25] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E [26] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E [27] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E [28] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E [29] 1 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [30] 1 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (==) I810(0): Depth 16, (==) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) I810(0): RGB weight 565 (==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Almador Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Almador Graphics Controller (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (II) I810(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 830M (--) I810(0): Chipset: "i830" (--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 (--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xE0000000 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear (II) I810(0): detected 8060 kB stolen memory. (II) I810(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 208896 kB available (II) I810(0): Will attempt to tell the BIOS that there is 12288 kB VideoRAM (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f11 not supported. (II) I810(0): Before: SWF1 is 0x00000001 (II) I810(0): After: SWF1 is 0x00000008 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) I810(0): initializing int10 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Almador Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Almador Graphics Controller (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 (II) I810(0): BIOS now sees 8000 kB VideoRAM (--) I810(0): Pre-allocated VideoRAM: 8060 kByte (==) I810(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kByte (==) I810(0): video overlay key set to 0x83e (**) I810(0): page flipping disabled (--) I810(0): Maximum frambuffer space: 32616 kByte (==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) I810(0): 2 display pipes available. (==) I810(0): Display Info: enabled. (II) I810(0): Broken BIOSes cause the system to hang here. If you encounter this problem please add Option "DisplayInfo" "FALSE" to the Device section of your XF86Config file. (II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: TRUE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP (digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1024,768) (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV2 (second TV): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP2 (second digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 (II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe A: (II) I810(0): LFP (local flat panel) (II) I810(0): Lowest common panel size for pipe A is 1024 x 768 (II) I810(0): No active displays on Pipe B. (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC Level none (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 0 sec. (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed (--) I810(0): A non-CRT device is attached to pipe A. No refresh rate overrides will be attempted. (--) I810(0): Maximum space available for video modes: 8000 kByte Mode: 30 (640x480) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 640 XResolution: 640 YResolution: 480 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 24 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 640 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 24 LinNumberOfImagePages: 24 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 32 (800x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 800 XResolution: 800 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 16 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 800 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 16 LinNumberOfImagePages: 16 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 34 (1024x768) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1024 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 768 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 9 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1024 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 9 LinNumberOfImagePages: 9 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 36 (1024x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1024 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 12 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1024 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 12 LinNumberOfImagePages: 12 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 38 (1280x1024) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1280 XResolution: 1280 YResolution: 1024 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 5 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1280 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 3a (1600x1200) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1600 XResolution: 1600 YResolution: 1200 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 3 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1600 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 3 LinNumberOfImagePages: 3 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 3c (1920x1440) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1920 XResolution: 1920 YResolution: 1440 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 8 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 4 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 1 RedMaskSize: 0 RedFieldPosition: 0 GreenMaskSize: 0 GreenFieldPosition: 0 BlueMaskSize: 0 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1920 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinRedMaskSize: 0 LinRedFieldPosition: 0 LinGreenMaskSize: 0 LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 LinBlueMaskSize: 0 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 41 (640x480) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1280 XResolution: 640 YResolution: 480 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 12 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1280 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 12 LinNumberOfImagePages: 12 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 43 (800x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 1600 XResolution: 800 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 7 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 1600 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 7 LinNumberOfImagePages: 7 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 45 (1024x768) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 2048 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 768 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 4 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 2048 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 4 LinNumberOfImagePages: 4 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 47 (1024x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 2048 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 5 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 2048 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 49 (1280x1024) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 2560 XResolution: 1280 YResolution: 1024 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 2 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 2560 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 2 LinNumberOfImagePages: 2 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 4b (1600x1200) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 3200 XResolution: 1600 YResolution: 1200 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 1 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 3200 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 4d (1920x1440) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 3840 XResolution: 1920 YResolution: 1440 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 16 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 0 RedMaskSize: 5 RedFieldPosition: 11 GreenMaskSize: 6 GreenFieldPosition: 5 BlueMaskSize: 5 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 0 RsvdFieldPosition: 0 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 3840 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinRedMaskSize: 5 LinRedFieldPosition: 11 LinGreenMaskSize: 6 LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 LinBlueMaskSize: 5 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 50 (640x480) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 2560 XResolution: 640 YResolution: 480 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 5 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 2560 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 52 (800x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 3200 XResolution: 800 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 3 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 3200 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 3 LinNumberOfImagePages: 3 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 54 (1024x768) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 4096 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 768 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 1 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 4096 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 56 (1024x600) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 4096 XResolution: 1024 YResolution: 600 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 2 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 4096 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 2 LinNumberOfImagePages: 2 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 58 (1280x1024) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 5120 XResolution: 1280 YResolution: 1024 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 0 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 5120 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 5a (1600x1200) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 6400 XResolution: 1600 YResolution: 1200 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 0 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 6400 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 Mode: 5c (1920x1440) ModeAttributes: 0x9a WinAAttributes: 0x7 WinBAttributes: 0x0 WinGranularity: 64 WinSize: 64 WinASegment: 0xa000 WinBSegment: 0x0 WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d BytesPerScanline: 7680 XResolution: 1920 YResolution: 1440 XCharSize: 8 YCharSize: 16 NumberOfPlanes: 1 BitsPerPixel: 32 NumberOfBanks: 1 MemoryModel: 6 BankSize: 0 NumberOfImages: 0 RedMaskSize: 8 RedFieldPosition: 16 GreenMaskSize: 8 GreenFieldPosition: 8 BlueMaskSize: 8 BlueFieldPosition: 0 RsvdMaskSize: 8 RsvdFieldPosition: 24 DirectColorModeInfo: 0 PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 LinBytesPerScanLine: 7680 BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 LinRedMaskSize: 8 LinRedFieldPosition: 16 LinGreenMaskSize: 8 LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 LinBlueMaskSize: 8 LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 MaxPixelClock: 230000000 (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth. (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear (II) UnloadModule: "i810" (II) UnloadModule: "ddc" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) UnloadModule: "int10" (II) UnloadModule: "int10" (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) UnloadModule: "vbe" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) UnloadModule: "int10" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. ----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:46:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BAA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:46:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.uidaho.edu (mx3.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01CE43D5E for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:46:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewr@uidaho.edu) Received: from mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mailA.its.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.252]) by mx3.uidaho.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LNkumA006676 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:56 -0800 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailA [129.101.155.252]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0IDQ003KC7E8BX@mailA.its.uidaho.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.101.155.252] (Forwarded-For: [129.101.151.24]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:56 -0800 From: Andrew Robinson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-SpamDetails: rule=notspam policy= score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 engine=2.5.0-05031800 definitions=2.5.0-05032100 X-SpamScore: 0 Subject: Increasing system message buffer size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:46:59 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Commmunity (again!) I'm working on a problem that would benefit from verbose logging of the boot process. Unfortunately my logging is SO verbose that it fills up the available system buffer. I'm trying to figure out how to change the buffer size. I'm on 5.3 Stable. It looks like one way to do it might be to recompile the kernel, with options MSGBUF_SIZE=65536 set. Is that the best way? If so, what is the default size of the buffer? I checked NOTES in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf but couldn't find any reference to it. I'd really appreciate any advice. Thanks! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 23:56:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EDB16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF45D43D55 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2LNuLPC059498; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:56:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:56:21 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrew Robinson Message-ID: <20050321235620.GL5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing system message buffer size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:56:22 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 21), Andrew Robinson said: > I'm working on a problem that would benefit from verbose logging of > the boot process. Unfortunately my logging is SO verbose that it > fills up the available system buffer. I'm trying to figure out how > to change the buffer size. I'm on 5.3 Stable. > > It looks like one way to do it might be to recompile the kernel, with > > options MSGBUF_SIZE=65536 > > set. Is that the best way? If so, what is the default size of the > buffer? I checked NOTES in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf but couldn't find > any reference to it. Yes, that's the only way to do it. It might be possible to convert it into a tunable (which would let you set it in /boot/loader.conf), but I don't know how early in the boot process tunables are available. The default is 32768 (see /sys/sys/msbguf.h). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 01:16:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F22516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (fan.priv.at [213.129.233.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ED643D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:16:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@gate.fan.priv.at) Received: from gate.fan.priv.at (alex@localhost.fan.priv.at [127.0.0.1]) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2M1Gnsu001032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:16:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (from alex@localhost) by gate.fan.priv.at (8.13.1/8.13.0/Submit) id j2M1Ghpe016531; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:16:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:16:43 +0100 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: Danny Howard Message-ID: <20050322011643.GB11100@fan.priv.at> References: <20050320221930.GA11100@fan.priv.at> <423F4F77.9080708@toldme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423F4F77.9080708@toldme.com> X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.6 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.8 X-SMTP-Vilter-Virus-Backend: clamd X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-clamd-Virus-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-Spam-Backend: spamd X-Spam-Score: -5.8 X-Spam-Threshold: 4.0 X-Spam-Probability: -1.4 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wow ! 5.3 -> 5.4 -> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:16:59 -0000 Hi everybody, * Danny Howard [050321 23:49]: > Alex D'Elia wrote: > > > >before, when the machine was compiling, it was getting > >at 82 degrees with 100% CPU > > > >now, with 100% CPU it gets at maximum 52 degrees. > > Totally un-scientific, but I have been watching tempurature the past few > days with gkrellm. I thought your report sounded pretty fantastic, so I > HAD to try it out. I made world, etc. And while making world, > tempurature climbed rapidly to top tempurature of 144.5F. that was also my reaction. That is why I started to look for a explanation, but I am sure of it, not because of the software I use to check temperature, but specially from my hand. Untill the last update, the system was always getting to such temperatures as soon as it was compiling for a while ( 5 minutes ). And the temperature was really high because my hand on the laptop was simply more hot than it is in these days. I know its pretty empirical as a proof, but the laptop is not compiling since 2 days, and still the temperature is now at 52 degrees Celsius, Before, in the last 3 months, every time I compiled something for longer than 5 minutes, it reached high temperatures, really high :-0 !!! > Since booting in to the new world, and running portmanager -u, as well > as streaming, plenty of work to keep the system quite loaded, it took > some time to get past 120F, and now seems to top out around ... 142.7F > it says now. It took a long time to get past 140F. > > It seems that if thre IS a difference, that maybe it takes longer to > build up heat now? Ah well . . . > > Thanks, > -danny I think it hangs with the acpi system, but I cant tell. I hope at least this that this case may be of help for the community red d(r)eam(s)on, alex -- ** acme aka Alex D'Elia ** http://root.acme.com mobile_at:: +43-699-12034633 ** priv:: alex@fan.priv.at mobile_it:: +39-328-4029914 ** work:: acme@sil.at USATEL:: +1--646-4851628 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 01:26:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A2016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F7C43D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net ([68.55.250.33]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005032201260101500en2mne>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:01 +0000 Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2M1Pwlm065899 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:25:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: (from rr@localhost) by rajarajan.homeunix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2M1Pvnl065898 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500 From: Rajarajan Rajamani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322012557.GA65868@rajarajan.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Rajarajan Rajamani, 10083 Fall Rain Dr., Laurel, MD 20723-5772 Phone: +301-776-7060 Mobile: +301-526-7325 WWW-Home-Page: http://rajarajan.homeunix.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on rajarajan.homeunix.net Subject: failure to upgrade - cannot find epstopdf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:02 -0000 I am upgrading kde and there is a failure while upgrading arts that it cannot find epstopdf. I have latex2e and tex installed but can't find this anywhere in /usr/local/. Do I need to have teTeX installed instead of tex and latex2e ? To ask this differently, how do I find out which port has a particular executable/script file ? Regards, Rajarajan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 01:26:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C0716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.uidaho.edu (mx3.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C406C43D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewr@uidaho.edu) Received: from mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mailA.its.uidaho.edu [129.101.155.252]) by mx3.uidaho.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2M1QqG0000485 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:26:52 -0800 Received: from uidaho.edu (mailA [129.101.155.252]) by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (Go Vandals!) with ESMTP id <0IDQ00D2HC0SY4@mailA.its.uidaho.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.101.151.24] by mailA.its.uidaho.edu (mshttpd); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:26:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:26:52 -0800 From: Andrew Robinson To: Dan Nelson Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-SpamDetails: rule=notspam policy= score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 engine=2.5.0-05031800 definitions=2.5.0-05032100 X-SpamScore: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing system message buffer size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:26:53 -0000 Thanks Dan! Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Nelson Date: Monday, March 21, 2005 3:56 pm Subject: Re: Increasing system message buffer size > In the last episode (Mar 21), Andrew Robinson said: > > I'm working on a problem that would benefit from verbose logging of > > the boot process. Unfortunately my logging is SO verbose that it > > fills up the available system buffer. I'm trying to figure out how > > to change the buffer size. I'm on 5.3 Stable. > > > > It looks like one way to do it might be to recompile the kernel, > with > > > > options MSGBUF_SIZE=65536 > > > > set. Is that the best way? If so, what is the default size of the > > buffer? I checked NOTES in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf but couldn't find > > any reference to it. > > Yes, that's the only way to do it. It might be possible to convert it > into a tunable (which would let you set it in /boot/loader.conf), > but I > don't know how early in the boot process tunables are available. The > default is 32768 (see /sys/sys/msbguf.h). > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 01:29:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34E816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:29:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from klub.chip.pl (klub.chip.pl [62.87.136.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA3443D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gonzak@klub.chip.pl) Received: from sxat (bls116.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.28.212.116]) by klub.chip.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0FF4816F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:29:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000501c52e7f$04699600$74d41c53@sxat> From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Rafa=B3_=A6widerski?= To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:32:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4942.400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4942.400 Subject: NIC nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:29:49 -0000 How install in FreeBSD NIC card nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 01:59:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F005816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao12.cox.net (lakermmtao12.cox.net [68.230.240.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A27043D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from nedsbsd.cox.net ([68.13.119.137]) by lakermmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050322015956.LYQ2476.lakermmtao12.cox.net@nedsbsd.cox.net>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:59:56 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:01:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503201531.18590.ned.woody@cox.net> <20050320165526.3173a27a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20050320165526.3173a27a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503212001.58780.ned.woody@cox.net> cc: Bill Moran Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:59:58 -0000 On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:55 pm, you wrote: > Ned Harrison wrote: > > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then I've > > had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will > > sometimes freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." or > > I'll lose contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the web. > > From an earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will let the > > system finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my ISP by > > running "/etc/netstart" as root. > > > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later > > I'll lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a pattern > > to the disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again > > everything works again. It can be hours before I the lose the connection > > or sometimes I'll lose the connection again within twenty minutes. I've > > searched for a permanent fix by looking throught this forum. But I > > havn't found anything yet. Though that might be because I don't quite > > know how to search! :-) > > > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is being > logged around the time you lose connection. > > Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does > ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The > difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. Thank you for the suggestions. I've scanned the log files and didn't see any unusual error messages. But that could be because I don't know what to look for. I've run FreeBSD for just about one year and had no Unix experience prior to that at all. I jumped from Windows, where somebody did everything for me to, FreeBSD where I have to figure things out on my own with only hints and suggestions. (Honestly, I find it funner this way!) I'll check to logs next time it goes down. I copied the results from ifconfig when everything is working to a file. As soon as I "lose the connection" I'll run ifconfig again. To get more defined regarding the loss of connection, it's almost as if I typed "ipfw flush" as root and cut myself down to the default "deny everything" rule. Sent emails will set unprocessed in the queue, when attempting to download e-mail, K-mail will return an unknown host error message, web browsers will either open to a blank white page or give me an invalid ULR error message. It even went down while viewing a video on Xine. The video just stopped, then I got an "invalid host" error message. As soon as I type /etc/netstart. Boom! everythings up an running as if nothing was ever wrong. Thanks again for your suggestions. Ned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 02:02:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:02:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf33.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf33.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE9543D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TastyNachos@charter.net) Received: from mxip11.cluster1.charter.net (mxip11a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.141])j2M21xIN023642 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:02:00 -0500 Received: from 68-189-90-224.ca.charter.com (HELO [172.16.64.102]) (68.189.90.224) by mxip11.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2005 21:01:57 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,108,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="873770244:sNHT21225740" From: Remington To: Rob Winters In-Reply-To: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> References: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:57:34 -0800 Message-Id: <1111456654.1436.0.camel@baby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems with Dell Inspiron 2600s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:02:02 -0000 change the device driver to vesa, see if it still crashes On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 18:32 -0500, Rob Winters wrote: > I have a couple of Dell Inspiron 2600s, and I can't run Xorg or Xfree86 > on either of them from FreeBSD 5.3 Release. A Fedora Core 3 locks up > solid with the same machines. I'd suspect a video hardware problem, > except I have two failing machines, and "that Microsoft thing" works > fine on both. > > The video is Intel 830M, and the display is a 1024x768 LCD. These should > run with the i810 "family" drivers, I thought. I read about problems > with earlier BIOSen, so I upgraded to the latest (A011), but no joy. > I've tried a few things, but I'm probably going in circles at this > point. So, I will keep it simple. Following is the config generated by > the "Xorg -configure", followed by the log generated by "Xorg -config > /root/xorg.conf.new. > > Help appreciated. Thanks! > > /// Rob > > P.S. Option "NoDDC" per TFM did not fix it. > ----------------------------------------------- > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "freetype" > Load "speedo" > Load "type1" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "keyboard" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "ColorKey" # > #Option "CacheLines" # > #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] > #Option "DRI" # [] > #Option "NoDDC" # [] > #Option "ShowCache" # [] > #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # > #Option "PageFlip" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Intel Corp." > BoardName "82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]" > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > ----------------------------------------------- > Release Date: 18 December 2003 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD trebor 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE > #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Build Date: 16 October 2004 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Mar 21 18:05:52 2005 > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled > (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". > Entry deleted from font path. > (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). > (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/". > Entry deleted from font path. > (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"). > (**) FontPath set to > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 > X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 > X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 > X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 > X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 > (II) Loader running on freebsd > (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Bitmap > (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) > (--) using VT number 9 > > (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 > (II) PCI: Config type is 1 > (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 > (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) > (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,3575 card 8086,1969 rev 04 class 06,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,3577 card 1028,00b8 rev 04 class 03,00,00 > hdr 80 > (II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 8086,3577 card 1028,00b8 rev 00 class 03,80,00 > hdr 80 > (II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,2482 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 > hdr 80 > (II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,2484 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2448 card 0000,0000 rev 42 class 06,04,00 > hdr 01 > (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,248c card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 > hdr 80 > (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,248a card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 01,01,8a > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2483 card 8086,4541 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2485 card 1028,00b8 rev 02 class 04,01,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 00:1f:6: chip 8086,2486 card 134d,4c21 rev 02 class 07,03,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 02:01:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 1028,00b8 rev 78 class 02,00,00 > hdr 00 > (II) PCI: 02:04:0: chip 1217,6972 card fffd,0000 rev 00 class 06,07,00 > hdr 02 > (II) PCI: End of PCI scan > (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,3), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) Bus 0 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: > (II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0004 (VGA_EN is > cleared) > (II) Bus 2 I/O range: > [0] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x00003400 - 0x000034ff (0x100) IX[B] > [2] -1 0 0x00003800 - 0x000038ff (0x100) IX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x00003c00 - 0x00003cff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range: > [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe02fffff (0x100000) MX[B] > (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: > (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) > (II) PCI-to-CardBus bridge: > (II) Bus 3: bridge is at (2:4:0), (2,3,4), BCTRL: 0x0400 (VGA_EN is cleared) > (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] > rev 4, Mem @ 0xe8000000/27, 0xe0000000/19 > (--) PCI: (0:2:1) Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] > rev 0, Mem @ 0xf0000000/27, 0xe0080000/19 > (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are > [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] > (II) OS-reported resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) Active PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [2] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018ff (0x80) IX[B]E > [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E > [12] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x000018ff (0x100) IX[B]E > (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001880 from 0x000018ff to > 0x000018bf > (II) PCI I/O resource overlap reduced 0x00001800 from 0x000018ff to > 0x0000181f > (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E > [1] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [2] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [3] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [4] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [5] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [7] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [8] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E > [9] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E > [10] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E > [11] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E > [12] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E > [13] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: > [0] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E > (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > (II) All system resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E > [19] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E > [20] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E > [21] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E > [22] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E > [23] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E > [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E > [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a > (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a > (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "drm" > (II) LoadModule: "drm" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a > (II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a > (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension SHAPE > (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD > (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS > (II) Loading extension SYNC > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XC-MISC > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension FontCache > (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP > (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a > (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" > (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a > (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) LoadModule: "record" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a > (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.13.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension RECORD > (II) LoadModule: "xtrap" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.a > (II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 > (II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP > (II) LoadModule: "freetype" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so > (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 2.1.0 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font FreeType > (II) LoadModule: "speedo" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a > (II) Module speedo: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.1 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Speedo > (II) LoadModule: "type1" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a > (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.2 > Module class: X.Org Font Renderer > ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 > (II) Loading font Type1 > (II) Loading font CID > (II) LoadModule: "i810" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o > (II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.3.0 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o > (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 > (II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, > i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0 > (--) Chipset i830M found > (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E > [11] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [12] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [13] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [14] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [15] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [16] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E > [19] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E > [20] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E > [21] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E > [22] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E > [23] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E > [24] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E > [25] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) > [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) > [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [5] -1 0 0xe0200000 - 0xe03fffff (0x200000) MX[B]E > [6] -1 0 0xe0080000 - 0xe00fffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [7] -1 0 0xf0000000 - 0xf7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [8] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe007ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) > [9] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xefffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B) > [10] -1 0 0xe0100000 - 0xe01fffff (0x100000) MX[B]E > [11] 1 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] > [12] 1 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] > [13] 1 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] > [14] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [15] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] > [16] -1 0 0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [17] -1 0 0x00002000 - 0x000020ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [18] -1 0 0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[B]E > [19] -1 0 0x000018c0 - 0x000018ff (0x40) IX[B]E > [20] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]E > [21] -1 0 0x00001880 - 0x000018bf (0x40) IX[B]E > [22] -1 0 0x00001860 - 0x0000187f (0x20) IX[B]E > [23] -1 0 0x00000374 - 0x00000377 (0x4) IX[B]E > [24] -1 0 0x00000170 - 0x0000017f (0x10) IX[B]E > [25] -1 0 0x000003f4 - 0x000003f7 (0x4) IX[B]E > [26] -1 0 0x000001f0 - 0x000001ff (0x10) IX[B]E > [27] -1 0 0x00001820 - 0x0000183f (0x20) IX[B]E > [28] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[B]E > [29] 1 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] > [30] 1 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] > (II) Setting vga for screen 0. > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "vbe" > (II) LoadModule: "vbe" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" > (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 0.1.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (==) I810(0): Depth 16, (==) framebuffer bpp 16 > (==) I810(0): RGB weight 565 > (==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > (II) I810(0): initializing int10 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xc0000,0x40000) was already clear > (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum > (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Almador Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Almador Graphics Controller > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 > (II) I810(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 830M > (--) I810(0): Chipset: "i830" > (--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 > (--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xE0000000 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xe0000000,0x80000) was already clear > (II) I810(0): detected 8060 kB stolen memory. > (II) I810(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 208896 kB available > (II) I810(0): Will attempt to tell the BIOS that there is 12288 kB VideoRAM > (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f11 not supported. > (II) I810(0): Before: SWF1 is 0x00000001 > (II) I810(0): After: SWF1 is 0x00000008 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > (II) Loading sub module "int10" > (II) LoadModule: "int10" > (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > (II) I810(0): initializing int10 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already clear > (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum > (II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > (II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0 > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Almador Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Almador Graphics Controller > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0 > (II) I810(0): BIOS now sees 8000 kB VideoRAM > (--) I810(0): Pre-allocated VideoRAM: 8060 kByte > (==) I810(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kByte > (==) I810(0): video overlay key set to 0x83e > (**) I810(0): page flipping disabled > (--) I810(0): Maximum frambuffer space: 32616 kByte > (==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > (II) I810(0): 2 display pipes available. > (==) I810(0): Display Info: enabled. > (II) I810(0): Broken BIOSes cause the system to hang here. > If you encounter this problem please add > Option "DisplayInfo" "FALSE" > to the Device section of your XF86Config file. > (II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: TRUE, size: (0,0) > (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV: attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) > (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP (digital flat panel): attached: FALSE, > present: FALSE, size: (0,0) > (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, > present: TRUE, size: (1024,768) > (II) I810(0): Display Info: TV2 (second TV): attached: FALSE, present: > FALSE, size: (0,0) > (II) I810(0): Display Info: DFP2 (second digital flat panel): attached: > FALSE, present: FALSE, size: (0,0) > (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 > (II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe A: > (II) I810(0): LFP (local flat panel) > (II) I810(0): Lowest common panel size for pipe A is 1024 x 768 > (II) I810(0): No active displays on Pipe B. > (II) Loading sub module "ddc" > (II) LoadModule: "ddc" > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC supported > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC Level none > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 0 sec. > (II) I810(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed > (--) I810(0): A non-CRT device is attached to pipe A. > No refresh rate overrides will be attempted. > (--) I810(0): Maximum space available for video modes: 8000 kByte > Mode: 30 (640x480) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 640 > XResolution: 640 > YResolution: 480 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 24 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 640 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 24 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 24 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 32 (800x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 800 > XResolution: 800 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 16 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 800 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 16 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 16 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 34 (1024x768) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1024 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 768 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 9 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1024 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 9 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 9 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 36 (1024x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1024 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 12 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1024 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 12 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 12 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 38 (1280x1024) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1280 > XResolution: 1280 > YResolution: 1024 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 5 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1280 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 3a (1600x1200) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1600 > XResolution: 1600 > YResolution: 1200 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 3 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1600 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 3 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 3 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 3c (1920x1440) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1920 > XResolution: 1920 > YResolution: 1440 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 8 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 4 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 1 > RedMaskSize: 0 > RedFieldPosition: 0 > GreenMaskSize: 0 > GreenFieldPosition: 0 > BlueMaskSize: 0 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1920 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinRedMaskSize: 0 > LinRedFieldPosition: 0 > LinGreenMaskSize: 0 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 0 > LinBlueMaskSize: 0 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 41 (640x480) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1280 > XResolution: 640 > YResolution: 480 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 12 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1280 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 12 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 12 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 43 (800x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 1600 > XResolution: 800 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 7 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 1600 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 7 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 7 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 45 (1024x768) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 2048 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 768 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 4 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 2048 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 4 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 4 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 47 (1024x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 2048 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 5 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 2048 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 49 (1280x1024) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 2560 > XResolution: 1280 > YResolution: 1024 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 2 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 2560 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 2 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 2 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 4b (1600x1200) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 3200 > XResolution: 1600 > YResolution: 1200 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 1 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 3200 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 4d (1920x1440) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 3840 > XResolution: 1920 > YResolution: 1440 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 16 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 0 > RedMaskSize: 5 > RedFieldPosition: 11 > GreenMaskSize: 6 > GreenFieldPosition: 5 > BlueMaskSize: 5 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 0 > RsvdFieldPosition: 0 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 3840 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinRedMaskSize: 5 > LinRedFieldPosition: 11 > LinGreenMaskSize: 6 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 5 > LinBlueMaskSize: 5 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 0 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 0 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 50 (640x480) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 2560 > XResolution: 640 > YResolution: 480 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 5 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 2560 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 5 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 52 (800x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 3200 > XResolution: 800 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 3 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 3200 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 3 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 3 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 54 (1024x768) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 4096 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 768 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 1 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 4096 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 1 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 56 (1024x600) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 4096 > XResolution: 1024 > YResolution: 600 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 2 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 4096 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 2 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 2 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 58 (1280x1024) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 5120 > XResolution: 1280 > YResolution: 1024 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 0 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 5120 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 5a (1600x1200) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 6400 > XResolution: 1600 > YResolution: 1200 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 0 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 6400 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > Mode: 5c (1920x1440) > ModeAttributes: 0x9a > WinAAttributes: 0x7 > WinBAttributes: 0x0 > WinGranularity: 64 > WinSize: 64 > WinASegment: 0xa000 > WinBSegment: 0x0 > WinFuncPtr: 0xc0006a8d > BytesPerScanline: 7680 > XResolution: 1920 > YResolution: 1440 > XCharSize: 8 > YCharSize: 16 > NumberOfPlanes: 1 > BitsPerPixel: 32 > NumberOfBanks: 1 > MemoryModel: 6 > BankSize: 0 > NumberOfImages: 0 > RedMaskSize: 8 > RedFieldPosition: 16 > GreenMaskSize: 8 > GreenFieldPosition: 8 > BlueMaskSize: 8 > BlueFieldPosition: 0 > RsvdMaskSize: 8 > RsvdFieldPosition: 24 > DirectColorModeInfo: 0 > PhysBasePtr: 0xe8000000 > LinBytesPerScanLine: 7680 > BnkNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinNumberOfImagePages: 0 > LinRedMaskSize: 8 > LinRedFieldPosition: 16 > LinGreenMaskSize: 8 > LinGreenFieldPosition: 8 > LinBlueMaskSize: 8 > LinBlueFieldPosition: 0 > LinRsvdMaskSize: 8 > LinRsvdFieldPosition: 24 > MaxPixelClock: 230000000 > (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth. > (==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > (II) UnloadModule: "i810" > (II) UnloadModule: "ddc" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > (II) UnloadModule: "int10" > (II) UnloadModule: "int10" > (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a > (II) UnloadModule: "vbe" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > (II) UnloadModule: "int10" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > at http://wiki.X.Org > for help. > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional > information. > ----------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 02:04:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B8F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:04:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A0143D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:04:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA48310; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:04:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:05:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Francis Whittington In-Reply-To: <001c01c52e49$e36a1e00$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Message-ID: <20050321204135.W6858@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <001c01c52e49$e36a1e00$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:04:04 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Francis Whittington wrote: > Sorry if I wasn't clear on my hookup to the internet. > ____________(((((WLAN > | to daughterXP > cable DI-524 > modem________wireless____________Main > router XPbox > |_____________bsd > box Hi Francis, I'm cc'ing the list because that's the etiquette here; hope that's OK with you. The idea is that others might benefit from reading the discussion. > Hope that shows it better.The router connects to the modem. All other > connections are through router. Daughter's XP box is on the wireless LAN. my > XP box and BSD box are hardwired to router. Your diagram got a bit mangled in the email, but I get the idea. > Yes I did use a crossover cable to bsd box because it said router was > Auto-MDI/MDI-X. Meaning you can use either straight through or > crossover. That would be in windows though I guess. That auto business is a function of the hardware; it shouldn't matter what OS is running on it. If you get a link light, the wiring is good (usually). But technically one should use a straight-thru cable from a computer to a router, so it might be worth trying. > So I gess I could try changing that. I did a "ping www.goggle.com" , > so that is the same as being able to ping router > (192.168.0.1).....right? Not really, but if you can get through to the internet then the router connection is OK. > I mean its getting to internet , just not seeing network. Let me add > that i can ping bsd box (192.168.0.102) from main WinXP box, but I > cannot ping daughter's XP box on the wireless LAN. She is the only one > thats on the WLAN. Now...I can ping the routerand the bsd box from her > XP box, but I can't ping the main XP box. So a "pingability" table might look like this: To >From BSD XP daughter router BSD - no no yes XP yes - ? ? daughter yes ? - yes > So basically, everyone is on the internet, but the local network at > home is a mess. Bizarre. In your other email you said in part > ifconfig -a shows that rl0: > inet 192.168.0.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > Okay, now to winXP box: ipconfig /all gives us: > Ethernet local Area: > ip addy..........................192.168.0.100 > subnet mask...................255.255.255.0 > default gateway...............192.168.0.1 > dhcp server.......................192.168.0.1 > DNS servers...................192.168.0.1 > and gives the lease dates and all. ...which all looks OK: non-conflicting IPs, same netmask. So other than the possible cable issue mentioned above, about all I can think of is that maybe you have an IP address conflict after all. I notice you gave the BSD box a .102 IP - are you sure the DHCP server didn't also assign that IP to your daughter's machine? Check the D-Link's configuration using its web interface, and see what range of addresses it's set up to hand out. It would be a good idea to give your BSD box an address which is not in that range. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 02:31:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A836516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23043D5C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:31:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:34:45 -0600 Message-ID: <423F837A.4040807@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:31:22 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Robinson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2005 02:34:45.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5FB38D0:01C52E87] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:31:25 -0000 Andrew Robinson wrote: >Hi Chuck, > >Thanks for the suggestion - that's beyond my exerptise, but here is the (hopefully relevant) output of pciconf > >########################################### > >none4@pci10:3:0: class=0x020000 card=0x09001558 chip=0x816910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RTL8169 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter' > class = network > subclass = ethernet >none5@pci10:5:0: class=0x028000 card=0x68331462 chip=0x02011814 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Ralink Technology Corp' > class = network > > >########################################### > >I would appreciate any further advice or assistance, > >Andrew > > > Hi, Andrew! Normally I wouldn't suggest this, but I'm thinking in this case you should trim all the really relevant bits of this conversation into one well-edited email with a proper introduction and send it over to "hackers@freebsd.org", unless someone pipes up and helps you with this Real Soon Now(tm). I'm thinking that it would be fairly trivial*, and most of those fellas would love to have FreeBSD support another 1000Mbps NIC.... Kevin Kinsey *If I'm wrong, it's Chuck's fault, heh heh.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 02:40:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8261116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:40:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4FC43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:40:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from nedsbsd.cox.net ([68.13.119.137]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050322024049.ZCFV18351.lakermmtao08.cox.net@nedsbsd.cox.net>; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:40:49 -0500 From: Ned Harrison Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:42:52 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503212042.53266.ned.woody@cox.net> cc: Bill Moran Subject: Fwd: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:40:52 -0000 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP Date: Sunday 20 March 2005 09:55 pm From: Bill Moran To: Ned Harrison Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Ned Harrison wrote: > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then I've > had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will sometimes > freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." or I'll lose > contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the web. From an > earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will let the system > finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my ISP by running > "/etc/netstart" as root. > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later I'll > lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a pattern to the > disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again everything works > again. It can be hours before I the lose the connection or sometimes I'll > lose the connection again within twenty minutes. I've searched for a > permanent fix by looking throught this forum. But I havn't found anything > yet. Though that might be because I don't quite know how to search! :-) > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is being logged around the time you lose connection. Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ------------------------------------------------------- It didn't take too long this time. ifconfig when running. rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::20d:87ff:fe34:a64c%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 68.13.119.137 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 68.13.119.255 ether 00:0d:87:34:a6:4c media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ifconfig when not running. rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet6 fe80::20d:87ff:fe34:a64c%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 68.13.119.137 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 68.13.119.255 ether 00:0d:87:34:a6:4c media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 They look the same to me. The error message from Konqueror: An error occurred while loading http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/latimests/20050319/ts_latimes/policyoksfirststriketoprotectus: Unknown host story.news.yahoo.com Scanning the logs I didn't see any new messages or changes Between work and rehearsal, I won't be back on line until Wednesday, so until then, thank you very much for your assistence. I do appreciate it. Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 02:49:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6DB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54006.mail.yahoo.com (web54006.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24F7143D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:49:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18554 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 02:49:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=cah2Ad1fKpFWosx69ePH2TI61qzlkG63iRg3JnIOreU9UkgG62j5uk3m6Kbaduc9r0uKdahyZknPdnWygxJpMYv65JkNflRGpYWIREc7kfsiMdTnGJ5w34f4DzYMZ6KlOJhSQUtzxasHQsYtUDhE+J0R96vnL3NvupWolNdgnOc= ; Message-ID: <20050322024911.18552.qmail@web54006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:49:11 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: FreeBSD questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Mozilla-1.7.5 + plugger-5.1.2 : nothing happens with pdf files ?!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:49:14 -0000 Hi I have following ports installed on my FreeBSD 5-Stable system: mozilla-1.7.5_2,2 plugger-5.1.2 acroread-7.0.0 In Mozilla, Help->About Plug-ins, shows me a long list of Mime types that are handled by plugger: File name: npplugger.so Plugger version 5.1.2 [...cut text...] Config file: /usr/X11R6/etc/pluggerrc-5.1.2 Helper binary: plugger-5.1.2 Controller binary: plugger-controller OpenOffice helper: plugger-oohelper When I click on a pdf file, I can verify with the ps command that plugger-5.1.2 indeed has been launched: plugger-5.1.2 2576,1,38,27262978,0,0,920,607 \ acroread -tempFile +useFrontEndProgram \ -geometry +9000+9000 "$file" The mozilla window is empty and has "Running helper ..." in the bottom. However, nothing happens after this. No pdf file loaded, nothing! Any idea what is causing the problem? A problem in the plugger configuration file? Or a problem with acroread-7.0.0? Using plugger with, for example, realvideo files, works fine. Regards, Rob. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 03:08:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F85216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:08:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54007.mail.yahoo.com (web54007.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC5EE43D64 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:08:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27217 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 03:08:00 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=uSTwsPVh9NgRybN77mIdP/NfvevoWp4381hjKT6Hv+swa1QHaA6SZ2VtRGPftFEi8dOwI0zi0aN5hfQHlEETnOPNKVUd3w++iLT2ILgoDHGXvI9R5AEckLnCN/Jlhwmglu0P2LvBOpsstZNzYr31pp5SbgYz7LFFB6Vo70XfcUc= ; Message-ID: <20050322030800.27215.qmail@web54007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:08:00 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:08:00 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: FreeBSD questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Mozilla-1.7.5 + plugger-5.1.2 : nothing happens with pdf files ?!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:08:01 -0000 Rob wrote: > Hi > > I have following ports installed on my FreeBSD > 5-Stable system: > mozilla-1.7.5_2,2 > plugger-5.1.2 > acroread-7.0.0 Meanwhile I've solved my own problem: I updated my ports and downgraded from acroread-7.0.0 to acroread-5.10_1,1; that solved my problem. I guess there's something broken between acroread-7 and the plugger configuration. Regards, Rob. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 03:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D1516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3F743D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0901.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 188A0200142E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:19:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0901.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F1CAF2001429 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:19:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322031925990.F1CAF2001429@mwinf0901.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:19:25 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:27 -0000 Freminlins writes: > Alternatively, show us it is not a firmware problem first. It ran for eight years without errors. > It's not throwing darts, it's sensible advice. NT is ancient, like > your firmware no doubt. So your saying an anciety copy of NT is more reliable than a current copy of FreeBSD? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 03:19:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C4216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F4743D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net ([68.55.250.33]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005032203192601200ef0b2e>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:26 +0000 Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2M3JIH8072263 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: (from rr@localhost) by rajarajan.homeunix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2M3JIpR072262 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:19:17 -0500 From: Rajarajan Rajamani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322031917.GA70080@rajarajan.homeunix.net> References: <20050322012557.GA65868@rajarajan.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050322012557.GA65868@rajarajan.homeunix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Rajarajan Rajamani, 10083 Fall Rain Dr., Laurel, MD 20723-5772 Phone: +301-776-7060 Mobile: +301-526-7325 WWW-Home-Page: http://rajarajan.homeunix.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on rajarajan.homeunix.net Subject: Re: failure to upgrade - cannot find epstopdf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:19:28 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:25:57PM -0500, Rajarajan Rajamani wrote: > I am upgrading kde and there is a failure while upgrading arts > that it cannot find epstopdf. I have latex2e and tex installed > but can't find this anywhere in /usr/local/. Do I need to > have teTeX installed instead of tex and latex2e ? > > To ask this differently, how do I find out which port has a particular > executable/script file ? > found epstopdf on installing teTeX. Don't know the answer to the second question though. RR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 03:24:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EBD16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B643D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDZx1-0003NC-FV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:21:03 +0100 Received: from 63-224-222-139.spkn.qwest.net ([63.224.222.139]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:21:03 +0100 Received: from sergei by 63-224-222-139.spkn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:21:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Sergei Gnezdov Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 63-224-222-139.spkn.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Russian from ssh console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sergei@gnezdov.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:24:12 -0000 On 2005-03-13, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > Sergei Gnezdov wrote: >> I'd like to be able to read Russian messages from slrn. I set LANG >> environment variable to ru_RU, but it does not help. I think it is >> because the underlying system does not support Russian or something >> like this. I don't plan to type messages in Russian. Most of the GUI >> apps seem to support foreign languages out of the box. What's so >> difficult with the console apps? > > Compare your ~/.login_conf to /etc/login.conf. Set the LANG there. > I added the following to ~/.login_conf: me:\ :charset=KOI8-R:\ :lang=ru_RU.KOI8-R: SLRN and mutt started to send guarbage messages in some cases. I decided that it is font related and tried to execute the following command from ssh terminal: vidcontrol -f cp866b I've the the following message: vidcontrol: must be on a virtual console: Inappropriate ioctl for device So, is there any way to change font loaded when using ssh terminal? Also, how do I know which encoding to use (KOI8, DOS, Windows)? What if some messages use KOI8 and some are Windows? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 03:41:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D964116A4CE; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:41:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rastaban.dandy.net (rastaban.dandy.net [209.128.224.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4B43D53; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:41:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from Mira.dandy.net (mira.dandy.net [209.128.224.15]) by rastaban.dandy.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j2M3f4SR028471; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:41:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:41:04 -0500 (EST) From: andy@neu.net X-X-Sender: andyneu@Mira.dandy.net To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322025222.546FB16A4CE@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20050322025222.546FB16A4CE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:41:06 -0000 After having upgraded to gnome 2.10 via the script, I am left with the following problem. When I try to run adobe acroread7, and realplayer I get the following error: #/usr/local/bin/acroread /compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory #/usr/local/bin/realplay /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory All my ports are up to date when issuing portversion -O. Pkg_info shows: # pkg_info linux_base-8-8.0_6 Information for linux_base-8-8.0_6: Comment: Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (only for i386) Required by: acroread7-7.0.0 linux-png-1.2.7_5 linux-realplayer-10.0.3 df -h shows the filesystem: linprocfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc The file /usr/ports/UPDATING says the following: 20041231: AFFECTS: users of the linux compatibility environment AUTHOR: netchild@FreeBSD.org The default linux_base was changed from v7 to v8. You need to update from v7 to v8 and rebuild every linux port. To update run: portupgrade -rf -o emulators/linux_base-8 emulators/linux_base In case you already use linux_base-8 you have to run: portupgrade -rf emulators/linux_base-8 So I ran portupgrade -rf emulators/linux_base-8, and the command seemed to finish sucessfully. ls -ld shows: [root@amd64 ~]# ls -ld /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 523044 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.a lrwx------ 1 root wheel 21 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so@ -> libgobject-2.0.so.600 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243631 Mar 21 00:41 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.600* This is really frustrating, any help getting this to work is really appreciated. Also, what other commands are there to help troubleshoot this type of problem. TIA, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:20:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D92D16A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:20:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53910.mail.yahoo.com (web53910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CCF543D68 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:20:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81293 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 04:20:27 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=U8l28p3IHwhkLtdCS48sn9xBA7kV2uvK+eD36o9Rkbc2vpMzrJpMZGaBKj63yT24OOitRq4Qg9g3si/xGz97l8VotO7rcY8zOpgTLXb6NDKFpRdl7tnV0CwxZjQclXdo7LmiBhqsk4cFxoFKILEvkopIP46azQJfI3NC8IckpOo= ; Message-ID: <20050322042027.81291.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:26 PST Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:26 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: gonzak@klub.chip.pl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:20:28 -0000 it was said: >How install in FreeBSD NIC card nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter >based on Realtek 8201BL PHY ? Hello, If you are using 5.3, try the nv driver in ports/net/. After building it, load it as a kernel module. I know it works for MCP2. This may be available in earlier versions, too; I do not know. good luck, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:30:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A51F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:30:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557D43D62 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F025751AAE; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:03 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Message-ID: <20050322043003.GA66834@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions Questions' Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:30:05 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:21:17PM +0000, Mark wrote: >=20 > Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): >=20 > --------------------------------------------- > asarian-host: {root} % make install > cp zlib.h zconf.h /usr/local/include > chmod 644 /usr/local/include/zlib.h /usr/local/include/zconf.h > cp libz.a /usr/local/lib > cd /usr/local/lib; chmod 755 libz.a > cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f libz.so libz.so.= 1; > ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; (ldconfig || > true) >/dev/null 2>&1; fi > So, where is the new shared library, libz.so? I only see libz.a installed. As you can see, it wasn't installed. Kris P.S. You've voided your warranty by doing this :-) --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP59LWry0BWjoQKURAvPoAJ4s0MnYgHJB0uUw8rFhh0n4zkAQpwCfQv1n SSrPy2KoooibnCTjy1Mes8E= =R6lR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:46:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D49916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:46:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8BA43D2F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDbFt-0003v9-8x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:44:37 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:44:37 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:44:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.gnome Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <20050322025222.546FB16A4CE@hub.freebsd.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:46:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [This is not quite on-topic for gnome@ since gnome@ isn't marked as maintainer, and it's not quite on-topic for questions@ since it's a port.] On 2005-03-22, andy@neu.net scribbled these curious markings: > When I try to run adobe acroread7, and realplayer I get the following > error: > > #/usr/local/bin/acroread > /compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: > error while loading shared libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > > #/usr/local/bin/realplay > /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin: error while loading shared > libraries: libgobject-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory > > ls -ld shows: > [root@amd64 ~]# ls -ld /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 523044 Mar 21 00:41 > /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.a > lrwx------ 1 root wheel 21 Mar 21 00:41 > /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so@ -> libgobject-2.0.so.600 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243631 Mar 21 00:41 > /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.600* Those are the *FreeBSD* versions of those libraries. You're missing the *Linux* versions. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP6Mok/lo7zvzJioRAh80AJ4gfhHcWbNtaJ3+kVcdgxf7OH/mKwCfRYHo V6roB+QRbuoeS0hvhJdHtz0= =KkId -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:49:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E4516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:49:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0908F43D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:49:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alias3@crotchett.com) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2M4np0u030051 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:49:51 -0600 Message-ID: <423FA3ED.7060300@crotchett.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:49:49 -0600 From: backdoc User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh password delay -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:49:52 -0000 Thanks to all. I seemed to have resolved the problem by setting my /etc/host.conf file to look like: order hosts,bind multi on And, of course, I have the correct IP's were in the /etc/hosts file. My laptop gets two different IPs depending on whether I go through the wireless or not. My host.conf already looked like the one below, but it wasn't working. Thanks again. I am so glad to get this problem resolved. darren Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Gary Smithe wrote: > >> If that is your resolv.conf, then that explains some things. Your box >> is looking at the ISP for name resolution and the ISP has no idea (nor >> could care) what your internal LAN address space is. Change the >> resolv.conf to look at itself (127.0.0.1) and setup BIND with some >> simple DNS and RDNS records. You could use pretty much any box on >> your network for DNS, but the key is that it has to know about the >> internal space. >> >> > Or fix your /etc/host.conf to lookup in files first and then use DNS, > then put your local network in /etc/hosts. Much simpler for a small > network. > > E.g. /etc/host.conf > > # First try the /etc/hosts file > hosts > # Now try the nameserver next. > bind > > > And /etc/hosts > > 192.168.0.1 myhost > > Then leave resolv.conf alone. It will be used for anything not in your > local hosts file. > > --Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:50:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9DB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:50:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA9A43D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:50:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@usmstudent.com) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2M4oUtB030062 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:50:31 -0600 Message-ID: <423FA414.2050409@usmstudent.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:50:28 -0600 From: darren User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh password delay -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@usmstudent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:50:31 -0000 Thanks to all. I seemed to have resolved the problem by setting my /etc/host.conf file to look like: order hosts,bind multi on And, of course, I have the correct IP's were in the /etc/hosts file. My laptop gets two different IPs depending on whether I go through the wireless or not. My host.conf already looked like the one below, but it wasn't working. Thanks again. I am so glad to get this problem resolved. darren Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Gary Smithe wrote: > >> If that is your resolv.conf, then that explains some things. Your box >> is looking at the ISP for name resolution and the ISP has no idea (nor >> could care) what your internal LAN address space is. Change the >> resolv.conf to look at itself (127.0.0.1) and setup BIND with some >> simple DNS and RDNS records. You could use pretty much any box on >> your network for DNS, but the key is that it has to know about the >> internal space. >> >> > Or fix your /etc/host.conf to lookup in files first and then use DNS, > then put your local network in /etc/hosts. Much simpler for a small > network. > > E.g. /etc/host.conf > > # First try the /etc/hosts file > hosts > # Now try the nameserver next. > bind > > > And /etc/hosts > > 192.168.0.1 myhost > > Then leave resolv.conf alone. It will be used for anything not in your > local hosts file. > > --Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 04:56:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4BB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C1643D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:56:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1422248wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:56:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=hUUyebzjvgvJlK3kd8N/SWG8ICHzYzEdBgTuujMsXADu1WqZocGWr1lEgrWIedW8a78saPKW5+WdKT5syDKy/aEnC5hpvmjmVY910mxTkk6epmshlrZS+uUCC7VdSSrW78yu9jnmmtBQ0jRP/7tNEAbYCNoBq3Asy0DMvsg3SXU= Received: by 10.54.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr3758451wrw; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:56:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:56:12 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:56:14 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:17 GMT, Mark wrote: > > Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): > > --------------------------------------------- > asarian-host: {root} % make install > cp zlib.h zconf.h /usr/local/include > chmod 644 /usr/local/include/zlib.h /usr/local/include/zconf.h > cp libz.a /usr/local/lib > cd /usr/local/lib; chmod 755 libz.a > cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f libz.so libz.so.1; > ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; ^ ^ command to make symbolic link (ldconfig || > true) >/dev/null 2>&1; fi > cp zlib.3 /usr/local/share/man/man3 > chmod 644 /usr/local/share/man/man3/zlib.3 > > asarian-host: {root} % find /usr/ -name "libz.*" | xargs ls -la > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 61898 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.a > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so -> libz.so.2 ^ here it is !!! symbolic link to libz.so.2 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 52108 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 74486 Mar 21 21:01 /usr/local/lib/libz.a > --------------------------------------------- > > So, where is the new shared library, libz.so? I only see libz.a installed. > > Thanks, > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well is it there or not? -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:03:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F88616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:03:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA58343D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1424734wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:03:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QjLbATsPLMRB7c0HTd2QaLEu56OwiM7Vgz5BIVCyCznGxM7t9F3VRyW2Y0jtHSHTjGt6LGHl6hq7ea8MbxGuKQou8aYmovhLS/nKZGWP/YgliXRfZ+gKSl+0QWbpXe9VMZxP86tWdj5efZ1EWf44P3xMAnAjF3wJ6lUnUcCG99w= Received: by 10.54.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr3763041wrw; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:03:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:03:17 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: more info (was Just finished Install) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:03:19 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:05:05 -0500 (EST), Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Francis Whittington wrote: > > > Sorry if I wasn't clear on my hookup to the internet. > > ____________(((((WLAN > > | to daughterXP > > cable DI-524 > > modem________wireless____________Main > > router XPbox > > |_____________bsd > > box > > Hi Francis, > > I'm cc'ing the list because that's the etiquette here; hope that's OK > with you. The idea is that others might benefit from reading the > discussion. > > > Hope that shows it better.The router connects to the modem. All other > > connections are through router. Daughter's XP box is on the wireless LAN. my > > XP box and BSD box are hardwired to router. > > Your diagram got a bit mangled in the email, but I get the idea. > > > Yes I did use a crossover cable to bsd box because it said router was > > Auto-MDI/MDI-X. Meaning you can use either straight through or > > crossover. That would be in windows though I guess. > > That auto business is a function of the hardware; it shouldn't matter > what OS is running on it. If you get a link light, the wiring is good > (usually). But technically one should use a straight-thru cable from a > computer to a router, so it might be worth trying. > > > So I gess I could try changing that. I did a "ping www.goggle.com" , > > so that is the same as being able to ping router > > (192.168.0.1).....right? > > Not really, but if you can get through to the internet then the router > connection is OK. > > > I mean its getting to internet , just not seeing network. Let me add > > that i can ping bsd box (192.168.0.102) from main WinXP box, but I > > cannot ping daughter's XP box on the wireless LAN. She is the only one > > thats on the WLAN. Now...I can ping the routerand the bsd box from her > > XP box, but I can't ping the main XP box. > > So a "pingability" table might look like this: > > To > >From BSD XP daughter router > BSD - no no yes > XP yes - ? ? > daughter yes ? - yes > > > So basically, everyone is on the internet, but the local network at > > home is a mess. > > Bizarre. In your other email you said in part > > > ifconfig -a shows that rl0: > > inet 192.168.0.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > Okay, now to winXP box: ipconfig /all gives us: > > Ethernet local Area: > > ip addy..........................192.168.0.100 > > subnet mask...................255.255.255.0 > > default gateway...............192.168.0.1 > > dhcp server.......................192.168.0.1 > > DNS servers...................192.168.0.1 > > and gives the lease dates and all. > > ...which all looks OK: non-conflicting IPs, same netmask. > > So other than the possible cable issue mentioned above, about all I can > think of is that maybe you have an IP address conflict after all. I > notice you gave the BSD box a .102 IP - are you sure the DHCP server > didn't also assign that IP to your daughter's machine? Check the > D-Link's configuration using its web interface, and see what range of > addresses it's set up to hand out. It would be a good idea to give your > BSD box an address which is not in that range. > > HTH. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > _______________________________________________ Assuming all PCs have Internet access and are in the same address space, then I would look at a software firewall problem. That is, if pinging the XP boxes is a symptom, then I would check to see if there is a software firewall on them (Windows, Norton, McAfee, etc...) GS GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:07:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E94416A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:07:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F8043D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgeorge.ml@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so876126wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:07:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MdNbNGUeooBNNaJZqcCXKLOBEGC0ItN8HOMSWLDr+q4i10mtoQU6EY2R4YJitVvRy4I3UC6X297l/GxQYD9K5ZSnoHBhealBQaJ7p3FybDw+/OHaFnyp440mKjPy4rdJfIKqMqb9yDA7TxIh8sUMvNAacZJk6PQwiHgMXbRkBLE= Received: by 10.54.11.31 with SMTP id 31mr122653wrk; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.14.62 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:07:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:37:36 +0530 From: Siju George To: Ben Goren In-Reply-To: <536aaddc7ccf28f11841b92275a4a868@trumpetpower.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <536aaddc7ccf28f11841b92275a4a868@trumpetpower.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Doug Richardson is (probably) back online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Siju George List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:07:37 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:42:51 -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > On 2005 Mar 20, at 10:59 PM, Siju George wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:39:13 -0700, Ben Goren > > wrote: > > > >> http://www.bartleby.com/141/ > > > > Thankyou so much for the link Ben :)))))) > > You're welcome. > > If English isn't your native language, it's worth noting that a (*very* > little) bit of his advice is slightly archaic. ``To-day'' is no longer > hyphenated; ``dependable'' is now an acceptable synonym for > ``reliable'' and ``trustworthy.'' > > The heart of this short work, however, is the second part. Read that; > then write your letters to Mr. Richardson > . > Yes I tried some of its tricks in my mail to Mark today. Hope I 've improved a bit hahaha!!! :) Thankyou so much again Constantine and Ben :)) good luck kind regards Siju From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B009E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3207B43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1603416wra for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:19:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RWW5LsC8Dk+oGxZaQ5YIGH6YwMVo/aI+71n4z0QMZc8ZQIaizr2XIcOH5oS8ENg7gZHsFq4ZPySPFOXeDq6wZ+KghUq1wz7eKtvd8YFskq6dHTACMVEFK0HQGDjfLF2Vo918Yho0VsvmONfxIyUzJIRYCDgFEUVHDwcODL8ubsA= Received: by 10.54.23.69 with SMTP id 69mr929374wrw; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:19:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:19:22 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:19:24 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:24 -0800, Andrew Robinson wrote: > Hello FreeBSD community, > > I'm trying to get my network card working under 5.3 Release. It won't DHCP. Configuring it using ifconfig doesn't permit any connection. > > (I also tried the February Stable, with no change as far as I can tell). > > WinXP identifies the NIC as Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC. Knoppix and WinXP both provide drivers that seem to work. Knoppix autodetects it without any (seeming) problem. > > My FreeBSD kernel is generic, and both the following lines are uncommented: > > device miibus # MII bus support > device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S > > The output from ifconfig is: > > fwe0: flags=108802 mtu 1500 > options=8 > ether 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 > ch 1 dma -1 > plip0: flags=108810 mtu 1500 > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > > and what I think is the relevant part of dmesg is: > > firewire0: on fwohci0 > fwe0: on firewire0 > if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 > fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:40:24:d8 > fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant > > It makes me wonder if FreeBSD is identifying the card as something different than it is. Is that possible? What next steps might be useful for me to take? > > Thanks much! > > Andrew > My advice, try a different network switch / hub. Read on to find out why. Trying to do the poor man's "Norton Ghost" at a local school for a WinXP lab (using dd over ssh), I had some stupid issues. The NIC in question was an onboard SiS 900. Here's what I had using various "live-cd" distros: winxp (installed) - i got an IP address knoppix and DSL (both debian) - I got an IP address System Rescue CD (gentoo) - no address g4u and obsd live cd (obsd) - no address (never did try fbsd, but obsd is fairly close) When I moved a sample PC closer to the DHCP server, every distro above got an address. The lab has an older d-link 24 port switch. There are 4 switches total between the lab and the dhcp server. When I moved the PC, it was then connected to a netgear 5-port 100mb switch, still about 4 switches away from the dhcp server. I tried setting an address with ifconfig for each of the failing distros, with no success. I vaguely remember getting some weird issues reagarding the PHY in obsd... I have no idea what the cause is (just discovered this last week), but am strongly suspicious of the d-link switch. I'm going to replace it (assuming funds are available) soon. Just thought I'd pass it on, in case it helps. GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:32:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1007216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:32:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (mx7.ITB.ac.id [167.205.30.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D19143D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dikshie@ppk.itb.ac.id) Received: from antivirus.itb.ac.id (antivirus.ITB.ac.id [167.205.108.137]) by mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B8820C2E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:48:09 +0700 (WIT) Received: from ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id [167.205.30.228]) by mx-itb.geoph.ITB.ac.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4051120C18 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:48:09 +0700 (WIT) Received: by ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C35BE114CA; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:32:31 +0700 (WIT) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:32:31 +0700 From: Dikshie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322053231.GA51889@ppk.itb.ac.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: (FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE i386) X-Uptime: 12:30PM up 17:10, 2 users, load averages: 0.60, 0.34, 0.61 X-Organization: Pusat Penelitian Kelautan (PPK) X-Location: Labtek VI Building, Institute of Technology, Bandung, Indonesia X-Web-Site: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/~dikshie X-Yahoo-ID: dikshie X-GnuPG-Key: http://ipv6.ppk.itb.ac.id/gpg/ X-FingerPrint: 19AC 2592 1394 6C96 BABB 9060 50B8 D244 88E3 B55D Subject: dsc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:32:50 -0000 dear all, can somone porting dsc: http://dns.measurement-factory.com/tools/dsc and then port commiters commit it to /usr/ports/dns thanks ! -dikshie- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:46:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083DE16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:46:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922DA43D73 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so883357wri for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:46:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZsxzRDkSPEeb1LXUIChiYuezVrnUZ9Dj46odxPoD2t3oQYHPttykIs2G0Gu5olbQWxLU2Yh1b37GhG0xwYtdf7BUvf2p3mXmy6W6b9FeBaNkPCDq1uRAB0xV58JGjMWOEakYFR4p58kcNXYRsmKCKoxJ48aRBiBZ/iAxDKuOHrs= Received: by 10.54.57.66 with SMTP id f66mr755869wra; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.25.55 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:46:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <138bced705032121465ee703f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:46:12 -0700 From: Simon Timms To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050321221304.GH82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20050321211252.GF82075@saturn.pcs.ms> <20050321220523.441528012485@smtp-out0.tiscali.nl> <20050321221304.GH82075@saturn.pcs.ms> Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Simon Timms List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:46:14 -0000 I have this same problem (see open office freezes thread). I was wondering what was going on such that it is possible to create processes which cannot be killed. This seems to me like it should not be permitted by the operating system. If root decides a process needs to go then it should go, especially a user land process. Would it not be possible to find out what is going wrong with OO.org and use whatever it is that is going wrong in a process fork bomb? I'm not going to claim that I know anything about operating systems, but it seems to me that if I say die then the kernel should simply force closed any file handles, free the process memory and remove the process from the process list. On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:04 +0100, Martin Schweizer wrote: > I know oo needs a lot of time for compiling. That is the last idea I had. > Did you ask the people from superoffice.org? I did a default installation > twice on separate freebsd boxes without problems. >=20 > Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:05:23PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > Do you mean reinstall? I could try, but as you might know, installing > > OpenOffice requires a lot of time, patience and workload of your system= (not > > to mention hd-space). But if I did? Why would it be any different? That= is, > > assuming I go again for a default install with no other options. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 22:13 > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > Did you a make deinstall? > > > > > > Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > Sorry I looked over your other questions. > > > > > > > > I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't > > > needed. > > > > I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel. > > > > I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation. > > > > My X-version is the latest xorg. > > > > I have also got jdk14 installed. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31 > > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > > > What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then m= ake > > > > install? > > > > > > > > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch] > > > > > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09 > > > > > > To: Freek Nossin > > > > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Freek > > > > > > > > > > > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X= - > > > Version? > > > > > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped fresh installation? > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one o= f its > > > > > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process= , not > > > > > > > even > > > > > > as > > > > > > > root with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #kill -9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling > > > > > > > list, but > > > > > > I > > > > > > > could not find a solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042264. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042162. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042222. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042204. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042488. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004- > > > > > > November/042156. > > > > > > > html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have an idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Freek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > > > > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gruss > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubiko= n > > > > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; > > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : > > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239= ; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Gruss > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Te= l. > > > +41 55 > > > > 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public = key : > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards > > > Gruss > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen > > > > > > Martin Schweizer > > > > > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.c= h; > > > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > > >=20 > -- >=20 > Regards > Gruss > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen >=20 > Martin Schweizer > >=20 > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; >=20 >=20 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 05:58:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32F016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:58:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CC343D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:58:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDcNI-0001B2-EG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:56:21 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:56:20 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:56:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20050322053231.GA51889@ppk.itb.ac.id> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dsc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:58:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Dikshie scribbled these curious markings: > can somone porting dsc: > http://dns.measurement-factory.com/tools/dsc > and then port commiters commit it to /usr/ports/dns Yes, and that someone can be you. Porting things is rarely difficult (and when it is, you have the collected experience of the members of the ports@ mailing list to assist you), and quite addictive. Before you know it, you maintain a port, then two, then more. The Porter's Handbook is a good place to start. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCP7Pck/lo7zvzJioRAmbPAJ0W+HCstrnHxXYpj/N5dP5QaL2PmwCbBNHU fDbWePOcUSY+t2K1UkbXK9o= =39rF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 06:14:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3074716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBF743D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:14:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2M6EIb30543; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "RacerX" , Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:14:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:14:15 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Anthony - > > I'm curious - with the issues you are having with the drives (SCSI > I think you mentioned) have you considered these ideas? > > 1. Upgrade the system BIOS > 2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller > 3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) > > Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider > doing so and see if this "may" correct your issues. > Racer, Anthony has an on-motherboard Adaptec chip in an 8 year old Vectra. It does not use firmware. It might be possible that he has a flashable motherboard BIOS but that BIOS isn't going to have microcode for the Adaptec controller in it. (And in any case if he's never flashed his BIOS I would -strongly- recommend he don't do it now, since his eeprom has probably had the existing BIOS code burned into it by so long without an update) He is stuck with the ROM that is burned into the Adaptec controller by the manufacturer. And I wouldn't put it past HP to have tampered with the Adaptec microcode anyway. Compaq definitely did with Adaptec controllers they put into their machines that were made during the same era. I also checked his disk drives and neither of them have upgradable firmware in the drives. He does not have an array controller. As I've told him in the past, he has 2 disks on his SCSI chain, one of them is a Seagate that syncs up at 10Mbt to the controller, the other is a newer Quantum that syncs up at 20Mbt. I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync negotiation on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He refuses to try doing this. I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD system off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single Seagate drive on it. He refuses to do that either. Others have told him to check termination. It is possible one or both drives are pinned for termination, and since his chassis provides termination that would be an error. It is also possible that one or both drives isn't pinned to supply terminator power to the bus which would be a problem as well. He has dismissed all of these without checking, claiming his termination is fine. The basic problem is that Anthony has an error that is non-damaging to his data - every once in a while the machine spews a bunch of SCSI errors, resets the bus and everything on it, things slow down for a moment, then life continues. He has by his admission, not lost data - yet. So the summary of it is that IMHO he LIKES things the way they are - it's been happening enough so that he's not afraid of losing data anymore, yet it gives him an error he can wave around every time he wants to knock FreeBSD's drivers. He isn't really interested in finding the root of the problem or isolating it to either a controller, a disk, or a software driver issue. Instead he thinks that the SCSI driver author can just wave a wand, and look at a non-debug output of the error messages, and magically know exactly what workaround to stick in the driver to make the error messages go away. It is rather amusing or pathetic now, depending on your POV. For all we know the SCSI device driver under Windows NT ran into the exact same error - and simply did the bus reset silently, without informing the user. That would be completely in character with how Microsoft approaches things (ie: if it doesen't kill the system the user doesen't need to know about it) As I have told him before the only way to find the error is to install a SCSI analyzer onto the SCSI bus, and only Adaptec and the disk drive manufacturers have such a tool - and if one did, they would almost certainly find out it is some kind of low-level timing od SCSI command set implementation issue that would need a correction in either the Adaptec controller microcode, or one of the disk drive's microcode - and you could identify which disk it was a lot simpler and quicker by just doing the troubleshooting suggestions that have already been given to him. Besides which, a half hour of time on such a tool would probably cost more than the price of a brand new server. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 06:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E5216A4DF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F24543D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:46:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@localhost.free.fr) Received: from vincent (ferreol-1-82-66-171-150.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.171.150]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F9E2EC2E6 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:46:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by vincent (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72451C99AB; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:45:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:45:59 +0100 From: Bachelier Vincent To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322064559.GA1102@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD vincent 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE Subject: NVIDIA + OS AGP + AMD CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:46:04 -0000 Hi, ok I have a problem to activate agp on AMD CPU I have this system: FreeBSD vincent 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE I have install nvidia I have this message under dmesg: NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. NVRM: AGP cannot be enabled on this combination of the AMD CPU and OS kernel NVRM: kernel upgrade recommended. here my sysctl: hw.nvidia.agp.card.rates: 4x 2x 1x hw.nvidia.agp.card.fw: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.sba: supported hw.nvidia.agp.card.registers: 0x1f000217:0x00000000 hw.nvidia.agp.status.status: disabled hw.nvidia.agp.status.driver: n/a (unused) hw.nvidia.agp.status.rate: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.fw: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.agp.status.sba: n/a (disabled) hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA FreeBSD x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6113 Mon Aug 2 16:08:32 PDT 2004 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableALiAGP: 0 hw.nvidia.registry.NvAGP: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPSBA: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs: 1 hw.nvidia.registry.Mobile: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.ResmanDebugLevel: 4294967295 hw.nvidia.registry.FlatPanelMode: 0 hw.nvidia.cards.0.model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 hw.nvidia.cards.0.irq: 16 hw.nvidia.cards.0.vbios: 04.25.00.30.00 hw.nvidia.cards.0.type: AGP I have put device agp under my kernel and when I set agp_load=yes under loader.conf, it wouldn't load... well kldstat doesn't show it any idea to make agp of freebsd work ? ok thx for support see ya -- Vincent Bachelier Language : Francais / English Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr - Serveurs linux Citation (fortune): "I'm returning this note to you, instead of your paper, because it (your paper) presently occupies the bottom of my bird cage." -- English Professor, Providence College From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 07:50:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BEE16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.pyrospheric.net (laura.leopold.iastate.edu [129.186.41.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C5B43D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from draconius@pyrospheric.net) Received: from mail.pyrospheric.net (localhost.pyrospheric.net [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.pyrospheric.net (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2J45TK9019483 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:05:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from draconius@pyrospheric.net) Received: from 12.218.59.188 (SquirrelMail authenticated user draconius) by mail.pyrospheric.net with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:05:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49770.12.218.59.188.1111205130.squirrel@mail.pyrospheric.net> In-Reply-To: <742126291.20050319004126@wanadoo.fr> References: <423AD243.5030601@myunix.net> <742126291.20050319004126@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:05:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Charles Richards" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:05 -0000 I have not personally used it, but I have hopes to try it out someday where I work, or for possible home use... http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/ Called Open-Xchange.....looks cool.. Also, you could realistically implement something 'exchange like' that is all web based, and IMAP backended....and then just integrate postfix (or your MTA of choice) within the LDAP backend. If that doesn't work for you, I Am sure there are many other different types of software that you could use to setup the same sort of exchange style centralized contacts, On Fri, March 18, 2005 5:41 pm, Anthony Atkielski said: > Christian Tischler writes: > >> I would like to run an MS exchange server. But I am not at all willing >> to set up an MS box at all. > > Microsoft Exchange Server runs only on Windows server operating systems. > >> Any hints or suggenstions would be great. > > Buy a server version of Windows, or choose a different messaging system. > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ..::[ www.pyrospheric.net ]::.. where nerds a pr0n collide! ..::[ www.unixforums.net ]::.. for all your *nix needs! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 08:09:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B661D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:09:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com (smtp02.dentaku.gol.com [203.216.5.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED90443D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michelbh@gol.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtp (Dentaku) id 1DDeSH-0005av-Qz for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:09:37 +0900 Received: from pa032178.au-net.ne.jp ([59.135.32.178] helo=ANDROMEDA) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1DDeSG-0005ab-FE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:09:37 +0900 Message-ID: <000901c52eb6$7c638670$ae640e0a@tokyo.ubisoft.org> From: "Michel Bouchet" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:37 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS GOL X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Subject: NFS access. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michel Bouchet List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:09:39 -0000 Hello, I am trying to use NFS server on a testing FreeBSD machine. I have been able to share a folder with a linux machine. But if I want the client to have write access to this folder; I have not found a better way than giving world wide write access on this folder. There has to be a better way. But what is it ? Is there a way to map the NFS-Client user to a certain unix user for instance ? Thanks for any tip. Michel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 08:11:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B3216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:11:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiba.meibin.jp (shiba.meibin.jp [211.18.246.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E343F43D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 24790 invoked by uid 1011); 22 Mar 2005 08:11:32 -0000 Received: from 192.168.10.8 by shiba.meibin.jp (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/705. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-4.4/3.0):. Processed in 3.407509 secs); 22 Mar 2005 08:11:31 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MEIBIN-Mail-From: lukek@meibin.net via shiba.meibin.jp X-Antivirus-MEIBIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-4.4/3.0):. Processed in 3.407509 secs Process 24782) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.8?) (lukek@meibin.net@192.168.10.8) by shiba.meibin.jp with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 08:11:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:08:42 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: Michel Bouchet In-Reply-To: <000901c52eb6$7c638670$ae640e0a@tokyo.ubisoft.org> References: <000901c52eb6$7c638670$ae640e0a@tokyo.ubisoft.org> Message-Id: <20050322170820.7CB7.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NFS access. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:11:44 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:37 +0900 "Michel Bouchet" spake thus: > Hello, > > I am trying to use NFS server on a testing FreeBSD machine. > > I have been able to share a folder with a linux machine. > > But if I want the client to have write access to this folder; I have not > found a better way than giving world wide write access on this folder. > > There has to be a better way. But what is it ? > > Is there a way to map the NFS-Client user to a certain unix user for > instance ? > > Thanks for any tip. > > Michel > man exports should give you a good starting point. HTH LukeK -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 08:17:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DDC16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:17:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from epost04.hit.no (epost04.hit.no [128.39.198.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404C443D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:17:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no) Received: from bo11836.hit.no ([128.39.118.36]) by epost04.hit.no with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DDebm-0006yF-D3; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:19:27 +0100 Message-ID: <423FD499.8080204@hit.no> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:17:29 +0100 From: Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Firman References: <423E7B9B.3060704@hit.no> <20050321170534.GA42170@sockeye.firmanix.com> In-Reply-To: <20050321170534.GA42170@sockeye.firmanix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linksys WPC54G (ver.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:17:33 -0000 I tried both of them, I manage to get it work with ndiswrapper on linux but i cant get it to work on freebsd :( why are you showing me the information of ndiswrapper for linux?, can you use the linux version on freebsd? (I dont think you can?) I have the linksys WPC54G PCMCIA card Thank you for trying to help me:) Andy Firman skrev: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:45:31AM +0100, Knut.A.Nordbo@hit.no wrote: > >>Hello >>did anyone here manage to get linksys WPC54G working on freebsd? >>I tried with ndis but i cant manage to get the card activated, >>maybe I have the wrong drivers? > > > Did you use LSTINDS.INF or lsbcmnds.inf? > > > Card: Linksys WPC54G v2, 54Mbps -- link here > Chipset: Texas Instruments ACX 111 > pciid: 104c:9066 > Driver: Linksys ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/wpc54gv2_driver_utility_v2.02.zip > Other: linux-2.6.8-gentoo kernel, ndiswrapper 0.10.Kept having kernel panic > (interrupt-related) upon module load until I set CONFIG_PCI_MSI=y (and unset > CONFIG_4KSTACKS, just in case.) Also, used "ndiswrapper -i LSTINDS.INF" (NOT > lsbcmnds.inf). Works with 64 and 128-bit WEP. Sometimes need to repeat config info > (and commit) repeatedly, else driver & card will ignore requested setup. Also works > with Gentoo 2.6.9-r9, ndiswrapper 0.12 and drivers that came from CD. > >>From this page: > > http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List > > > Andy > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 08:46:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C20216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1561D43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2M8hJb30950; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Wen" , Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:43:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <22922460.20050321173151@email.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Questions about X Window system (FreeBSD 5.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:46:20 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Hello. > > My name is Paul and i am from Russia, Ufa city. I am a student. > I recently have bought operational system FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. > But appeared, that items of adjustment X Window have been removed > from the program of adjustment SYSINSTALL system and adjustment > Desktop managers. How now to adjust X Window and Desktop managers. If > not it is difficult, explain please. > Read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 08:59:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E9B16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:59:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E4D43D5D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:59:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2M8xkb30996 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:59:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1457754528.20050321194129@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:59:36 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Then why new versions? > > Because Microsoft has to sell new versions in order to maintain its > revenue flow. The only other option is licenses that are not > perpetually valid (i.e., licenses you have to pay for again each month > or each year). There is a third option. Microsoft can simply quite releasing new versions of it's established products and go to work creating new products that people would want to buy. Think of it. Instead of every 2 years yet another tired old bloated overengineered version of Windows, they could come out with a brand new operating system named something completely different. For example, 'doors' Doors would be a completely 64 bit OS, would NOT run Windows binaries and not be backwards compatible at all. It would be written to be lickety-split fast. It would be voice-activated, no mouse. Applications would have to be recompiled for it. Because of the lack of all the Windows baggage, Microsoft could use all of the good things they have learned writing Windows, to create their new OS "Doors" and not have to inherit any of the bad things and mistakes of Windows. Of course, for people that didn't want to scrap out their existing Windows applications, they could just keep buying old Windows licenses. For people wanting to run apps far faster and better than Windows, they would buy Doors and buy Doors applications. But of course, you won't ever see this kind of visionary product from Microsoft, because they are a company of mediocre programmers. That is why 50 years from now we will still be running Windows, and computers will not look anything whatsover like they do in Star Trek. (except for that old Mac toaster in the save the whales ST movie) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:00:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C283616A4D4 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC6843D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so914557wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:00:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RNxBTddXHCwjiigg10E7s0NK0JnBEo/yLRZfn0aCQKLMtesfEoQ2KY3bfMBCdXlNBUw2IYs4UITWPLieEl9waqRsMH+sD+BAkQ//jZwn9FHze0luABf2JTsTeI0OFRIdZWRwEv3+5nDT5s47Ic2H8+j7wZhzo2y6bQditGyA1kc= Received: by 10.54.39.39 with SMTP id m39mr43529wrm; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:00:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:00:41 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:00:44 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:19:25 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > It ran for eight years without errors. On a different OS. > So your saying an anciety copy of NT is more reliable than a current > copy of FreeBSD? Don't try and put your words in my mouth. On your ancient hardware with an ancient OS you didn't have problems. Why not stick with it if it's been so reliable? > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:10:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F4816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7043D62 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2M9AR2a020212 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:28 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:27 +0000 Message-Id: <1111482627.751.174.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: usb interface boards and drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:49 -0000 I'm trying to determine the best way to interface a device like a servo motor controller to a usb bus. Boards such as those produced by FTDI would be useful but they have no FreeBSD drivers. http://www.ftdichip.com/FTProducts.htm If anyone knows of any similar products that do have FreeBSD drivers, or can suggest resources that document an alternative approach, I'd be very grateful for a steer. TIA. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:13:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC71316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9BD43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EBA841C00082 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 742471C000B0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322091316476.742471C000B0@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:15 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:13:19 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync negotiation > on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He refuses to try doing > this. You're incorrect. I have _already_ done it, at your suggestion; it had no effect, as I expected. > I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD system > off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single Seagate drive > on it. He refuses to do that either. I'm not going to take the machine apart just to eliminate every other possible cause in the universe before blaming it on FreeBSD. Only one thing has changed in this machine: I replaced Windows NT with FreeBSD. Windows NT had no problem with the SCSI drives; FreeBSD has a problem with them. Therefore FreeBSD is defective. > The basic problem is that Anthony has an error that is non-damaging to > his data - every once in a while the machine spews a bunch of SCSI > errors, resets the bus and everything on it, things slow down for a > moment, then life continues. He has by his admission, not lost data - > yet. I never lost data at all under Windows NT, either; and Windows NT never slowed down. > So the summary of it is that IMHO he LIKES things the way they are - > it's been happening enough so that he's not afraid of losing data > anymore, yet it gives him an error he can wave around every time he > wants to knock FreeBSD's drivers. He isn't really interested in > finding the root of the problem or isolating it to either a > controller, a disk, or a software driver issue. Instead he thinks that > the SCSI driver author can just wave a wand, and look at a non-debug > output of the error messages, and magically know exactly what > workaround to stick in the driver to make the error messages go away. All I know, is that nobody who has replied to my questions is competent or energetic enough to actually find the bug in FreeBSD. You can argue all you want about that, but it's precisely this sort of attitude that prevents operating systems like FreeBSD from being adopted on a large scale in many organizations. If they delete NT to try FreeBSD, and FreeBSD generates a raft of errors that NT never did, and all anyone involved with the product can say is "it's your hardware!" do you think that they're going to keep using FreeBSD? The OS is obviously defective, since it is the only thing that changed. There is no reason to look anywhere else UNTIL and UNLESS the OS is ruled. Looking at everything else _first_ just to avoid taking responsibility for a bug in the OS is not the way it's done. > For all we know the SCSI device driver under Windows NT ran into the > exact same error - and simply did the bus reset silently, without > informing the user. That would be completely in character with how > Microsoft approaches things (ie: if it doesen't kill the system the > user doesen't need to know about it) That's how FreeBSD does it, too, based on the snippets of code I've looked at. > As I have told him before the only way to find the error is to install > a SCSI analyzer onto the SCSI bus, and only Adaptec and the disk drive > manufacturers have such a tool - and if one did, they would almost > certainly find out it is some kind of low-level timing od SCSI command > set implementation issue that would need a correction in either the > Adaptec controller microcode, or one of the disk drive's microcode - > and you could identify which disk it was a lot simpler and quicker by > just doing the troubleshooting suggestions that have already been > given to him. Besides which, a half hour of time on such a tool would > probably cost more than the price of a brand new server. No, the only way to find the error is to find someone who knows the FreeBSD code and is competent and willing to discuss the problem, instead of people who spend their time blowing smoke in order to avoid admitting that they haven't a ghost of a clue as to what the problem is. You obviously have no idea what's wrong; why do you continue to reply? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:16:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F9816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:16:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A543D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2M9Gbb31061 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:16:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:16:27 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> The problem is you just don't want it to be a hardware problem >> because you don't accept the possibility that the NT driver wrote >> around a hardware problem and the FreeBSD driver doesen't. > > No, I don't want to run on a wild goose chase just because it hurts > someone's pride to think that FreeBSD might have a bug. > > The only thing that changed on this machine was a move from Windows NT > to FreeBSD. Therefore the source of the problem is FreeBSD. > You have no proof of that unless you were to run the tests that I already posted. Your just making a hypothesis that the problem is FreeBSD, you have no interest in testing the hypothesis to see if it is correct. The tests that I told you to make would show whether it was FreeBSD or whether it was hardware. If you go to the single Seagate disk and run that for a while, then remove the Seagate and go to a single Quantum and run that a while, and in both cases if the error messages still happen, then that is extremely compelling proof that it's FreeBSD. if by contrast the error messages go away with just the Seagate disk in there and reappear with just the Quantum disk, then that is compelling proof that the problem is the Quantum disk. Or, if the error messages go away with just the Quantum disk in there and reappear with just the Seagate disk, then that is compelling proof that it is the Seagate disk. Or if the error messages go away with just the Quantum, and if they go away with just the Seagate, then that is compelling proof that it is an incompatability with the 2 disks on the same SCSI bus. >> Despite the fact that making up for hardware problems with >> writearounds in the software drivers is a common thing in the >> industry. > > That would explain the "quirks" coding in FreeBSD, then, wouldn't it? > Or is this only bad when other operating systems do it? > All device drivers for all operating system have 'quirks' programming in them. Most of the time the quirks for different hardware are documented in the data sheets for the hardware from that manufacturer. Adaptec unfortunately does not readily release programming data. >> So you won't do the testing to prove that it is or isn't a hardware >> bug, and thus you can continue pretending to yourself that it must be >> software, and thus not your responsibility. > > Nobody here knows enough about FreeBSD to even tell me what > its messages > mean; I don't see any particular reason to knock myself out indulging > their baseless conjectures. I already went through step by step the last error messages you posted and explained to you what they meant. What you don't seem to understand is that the error messages are mostly generics and you would get most of the same error messages with many different types of problems. Most of the errors you posted show up only after the fault develops on the SCSI bus and are output as the driver resets the bus and attempts to gain back control over the targets on the bus, as a result they only tell you what you already know. (ie: that there is a problem) And the few messages output that come out when the error happens simply do not point to any single thing on the bus other than the targets suddenly lost synchronization with the initiator (the scsi card) They do not say why the targets lost synchronization. And in the case of a hardware problem, such as a bug in a disk drive microcode, or bad termination, or some such, those error messages may not show those problems, because you cannot write a software program that can detect all hardware error conditions in hardware that it must run on. It is like writing a memory testing program. Suppose the memory error is in a bit that is being used to hold the program code for the memory test program itself. As soon as you execute the memory test program it crashes before it can even test the memory and tell you there's a problem. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:22:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A873A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:22:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0975243D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:22:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C4131C000AB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:21:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CCF211C000A7 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:21:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322092158839.CCF211C000A7@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:21:58 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1344929422.20050322102158@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1457754528.20050321194129@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:22:00 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > There is a third option. Microsoft can simply quite releasing new > versions of it's established products and go to work creating new > products that people would want to buy. That business model doesn't work, which is why no PC software company is using it. It costs a great deal of money to build completely new products, and it can take a decade to recover the investment in development, even if the product does well. Additionally, there is a huge risk of it _not_ doing well, in which case the losses may be great enough to sink a company. Overall, it's not nearly as safe or profitable as adding new bells and whistles to existing products and releasing "upgrades." Therefore all PC software companies emphasize upgrades, not new products. > Think of it. Instead of every 2 years yet another tired old bloated > overengineered version of Windows, they could come out with a brand > new operating system named something completely different. For > example, 'doors' Even Microsoft can't afford to do that. They were already taking major risks with Windows NT, but fortunately it worked out. Nobody is going to rewrite 250,000 applications for a new operating system today. New operating systems must not only be superior to their competitors in a number of ways, but they must also have vast amounts of application software available for them in order to have any hope of being adopted. The risks for the OS vendor and the application developers are huge. That's why practically no one writes new operating systems. That's why Apple couldn't afford to develop a new OS. That's why Microsoft has consistently kludged its NT-based systems to support older Windows applications. Even so, NT was initially hurt by a lack of compatible applications. > Doors would be a completely 64 bit OS, would NOT run Windows binaries > and not be backwards compatible at all. It would be written to be > lickety-split fast. It would be voice-activated, no mouse. > Applications would have to be recompiled for it. That's not going to happen. But if you think it's a good idea, nothing prevents you from writing such an OS yourself. After all, Linus wrote his own home-baked kernel. > Because of the lack of all the Windows baggage, Microsoft could use > all of the good things they have learned writing Windows, to create > their new OS "Doors" and not have to inherit any of the bad things and > mistakes of Windows. Except that nobody would buy Doors, because everyone wants to use applications that run only on Windows. > But of course, you won't ever see this kind of visionary product from > Microsoft, because they are a company of mediocre programmers. No, you aren't likely to see this from Microsoft (or anyone else) because the company doesn't want to dig its own grave. They've done it in the past: Windows NT being the classic example. But it gets harder with each generation, and eventually it becomes so expensive that even a Microsoft doesn't have the financial resources to bet on such a project. > That is why 50 years from now we will still be running Windows, and > computers will not look anything whatsover like they do in Star Trek. FreeBSD is an implementation of an OS that existed nearly twenty years before Windows. So, when you will start writing your replacement for UNIX? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:25:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749C716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:25:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C46C43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 335A61C000A5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 140981C000A0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322092515821.140981C000A0@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:14 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:25:16 -0000 Freminlins writes: > On a different OS. Exactly. With _identical_ hardware. So if the hardware ran under the other OS, but not under this OS, where do you look first for the problem? If your car runs perfectly for years with one brand of oil, and then you change brands and the engine seizes, where do you look for the source of the problem? > Don't try and put your words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out the unavoidable implication of what you said. NT ran on this hardware for eight years without a hitch; FreeBSD cannot do the same. It's not the hardware. > On your ancient hardware with an ancient OS you didn't have problems. UNIX is twenty years older than NT. > Why not stick with it if it's been so reliable? I wanted to try FreeBSD. Is that what you tell people who have trouble getting FreeBSD to work? "Reinstall your old OS"? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:29:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A609F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:29:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461BE43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:29:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6F6D81C0009C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:29:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 548A61C0009D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:29:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322092902346.548A61C0009D@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:29:02 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1135566054.20050322102902@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:29:03 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > You have no proof of that unless you were to run the tests that I > already posted. You're wasting my time. Perhaps somebody who actually understands how FreeBSD works will offer useful assistance sooner or later, although I'm less and less optimistic. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:31:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C9216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:31:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BC143D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:31:27 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=J7mK0q9k=SA=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2M9VPd6033731 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:31:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200503220931.j2M9VP4i033721@asarian-host.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:31:25 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: 76woTMEX1iVw2hX7DJ0IkyLFc0+QG63wswiblDXR3EYkaqlsDm5LbT8wNjy8n1cYrgbxztJuPmuw9i32U58NcQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQj/l7TFqW1BleBN9AQEjEgf/fh/gaCdlWb4tlfGkI6Coa9RryrJNOds6 yztVTLb+XH1taw4YCVmfkmQhZ2ck9kqE2r6LOn7xeRPKgvbZwdcBEraM82jncyYz sAqDRTmX5X3OmKJ2lcCbrC/A9oNeNT84nTnDvuGbI/Mv0+4dNG7K76x7xozNhhUq C6MkD8+rfTWF25Cb/5lGKjdayc2T5MsgqWoJphzE+o1JP4qXpaklkQ/3Uxaq0lp3 vlFOKfOSR6Jd5JCjZzLP65WwrTPqPsQqP8uaz+0j8rfacrvedoLQraDwCs/C6EKX XtZ1M7nR/g20o16gsPRvIX0SOUcXMQSFJK8hEwhrldnCRYtiT4Jf8g== =ieyI Subject: RE: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:31:30 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Abu Khaled > Sent: dinsdag 22 maart 2005 5:56 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:17 GMT, Mark wrote: > > > > Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > asarian-host: {root} % make install > > cp zlib.h zconf.h /usr/local/include > > chmod 644 /usr/local/include/zlib.h /usr/local/include/zconf.h > > cp libz.a /usr/local/lib > > cd /usr/local/lib; chmod 755 libz.a > > cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f > > libz.so libz.so.1; > > ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; > ^ ^ > command to make symbolic link > > (ldconfig || true) >/dev/null 2>&1; fi > > cp zlib.3 /usr/local/share/man/man3 > > chmod 644 /usr/local/share/man/man3/zlib.3 > > > > asarian-host: {root} % find /usr/ -name "libz.*" | xargs ls -la > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 61898 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.a > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Mar 7 2004 > > /usr/lib/libz.so -> libz.so.2 > ^ > here it is !!! > symbolic link to libz.so.2 I read that entirely differently. :) I see a large conditional -- including the creation of symlinks -- based on the existence of libz.so.1.2.2. > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 52108 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so.2 Clearly, libz.so.2 is still very much the old file (and I know this for certain, as I also have it elsewhere, in a jailed environment). So, to reiterate, where is the new shared library, libz.so? Or libz.so.1.2.2, for that matter. Even in the work directory of the untarred libz 1.2.2 tar.gz, no libz.so.1.2.2, or libz.so, exists after building. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:40:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C13816A4D0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCAA43D5E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-125-24.37-151.net24.it [151.37.24.125]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2M9xfJs040245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:59:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2M9c2dM025943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:38:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <423FE8B9.20202@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:43:21 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli Organization: NetFence User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> <20050321171510.GE5243@dan.emsphone.com> <423F04D0.1090605@netfence.it> <20050321173924.GF5243@dan.emsphone.com> <423F374D.3040400@netfence.it> <20050321212024.GJ5243@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20050321212024.GJ5243@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:38 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 21), Andrea Venturoli said: > >>Dan Nelson wrote: I'm reverting to the mailing list, since this is possibly getting interesting for other people too. >>>The change was also committed to the RELENG_5_3 branch after 5.3 was >>>released, so if you're tracking 5.3-stable, you should be able to just >>>cd into /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt and run "make ; make install". >> >>Nope. I'm still on 5.3p5 (I usually stuck to releases) and it does not >>work. I'll just wait for 5.4; in the meanwhile I'll have to resort from >>time to time to that old Debian machine :) > > If your kernel version says 5.3p5, then you are tracking 5.3-stable > (cvs branch RELENG_5_3). If you were tracking -stable (cvs branch > RELENG_5), your kernel would say 5.4-PRERELEASE. If you only update > /usr/src/sys/ (i.e. just the kernel), then you are still running a > plain 5.3-RELEASE userland, which would explain why c++filt isn't > building. Then I'm tracking 5.3-stable: > soth# uname -a > FreeBSD soth.ventu 5.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #1: Mon Feb 28 00:34:36 > CET 2005 root@soth.ventu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SOTH i386 And I'm doing this by means of the following lines in my supfile: > *default host=cvsup.it.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr/local/netfence/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 > src-all Still, if I follow your suggestion, I get an error: > soth# cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/ > soth# make > Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++f > ilt > cc -O -pipe -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/c > c/c++filt/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/g > nu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DSTANDALONE_DEMANGLER -DIN_GCC -DVERSION=\"\" - > c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp-demangle.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp-demangle.c:86:20: con > fig.h: No such file or directory > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp-demangle.c: In functi > on `d_print_resize': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp-demangle.c:2658: warn > ing: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:44:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D1816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237E143D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so920750wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:44:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jCAXYRcFwEwgEGxmFOHN1EwrmCO/wU10gaeEPWdPgTWffiBoHQ+qNngNmusmPhx25vnE0wi4Li8lBMTHe6/rjdu7Cyc5OzFAiOWuRvByYSye4hvShbeIRFQ2CsBSnKJ41OO9zdIZjHwKPWm1J92pM9eN4i7ad5HTB/hRH1PKyBc= Received: by 10.54.45.41 with SMTP id s41mr3812141wrs; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 01:44:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:12 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:13 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:14 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Exactly. With _identical_ hardware. So if the hardware ran under the > other OS, but not under this OS, where do you look first for the > problem? Both, actually. > If your car runs perfectly for years with one brand of oil, and then you > change brands and the engine seizes, where do you look for the source of > the problem? Both, actually. > I'm just pointing out the unavoidable implication of what you said. NT > ran on this hardware for eight years without a hitch; FreeBSD cannot do > the same. It's not the hardware. So stick with NT. Why would you change from something that runs perfectly for 8 years? > UNIX is twenty years older than NT. That doesn't mean nothing has changed in 20 years, does it? > I wanted to try FreeBSD. And your hardware seems to not work very well with FreeBSD. Move on. > Is that what you tell people who have trouble getting FreeBSD to work? > "Reinstall your old OS"? That's not what has been said. Having read this thread (and others by you previously) you have no intention of helping yourself. You just like to whinge that FreeBSD doen't work on your hardware. > -- > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:06:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB5C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BFA43D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MA6e7E020364 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:41 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:40 +0000 Message-Id: <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:53 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 10:13 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > [...] > Only one thing has changed in this machine: I replaced Windows NT with > FreeBSD. Windows NT had no problem with the SCSI drives; FreeBSD has a > problem with them. Therefore FreeBSD is defective. > [...] Just for the record, since we seem to be stuck in a loop of comparing apples with oranges: 1. Does either Windows 2003 or XP SP2, the only versions of Windows that are meaningful comparisons with the latest versions of FreeBSD, fully and without errors support this SCSI adapter and drive combination? 2. Does a version of FreeBSD that is contemporary with NT and your machine (ancient, unsupported, like NT) drive this hardware OK? _ALL_ operating systems have some issues with some old hardware. Migrating to Windows XP, for example, was impossible on some machines never than yours. I've retired Compaq servers that were less ancient than your machine and *built for Windows* because some hardware (specifically SCSI adapters, incidentally) was incompatible with _any_ currently supported version of Windows. In the sense that maintaining support for all discontinued devices ever made would be a seriously misguided use of resources, this is a feature rather than a *defect*. The comparisons you have been making are fatuous. I had thought they were about as fatuous as it's possible to get, but then I saw your post that said UNIX is twenty years older than NT, and that gets the prize. Congrats. > No, the only way to find the error is to find someone who knows the > FreeBSD code and is competent and willing to discuss the problem, [...] You bet. Paid help is surely available. What you fail to realise is that nobody is under any obligation to give you such detailed and time-consuming help FOR FREE. FreeBSD development follows the lines decided on by the development team, just like every OS in the world. If no developers choose to spend time fixing (non-destructive) issues for you, personally, then that's their choice. If that is their choice, it's a pretty good one. I'd love to see you harangue Microsoft for personalised development and support in the way you've been haranguing this list. And, after all is said and done, if your hardware is unsupported, so what? It's very, very old. This isn't a fault or a defect; it's part of the spec. You can find LOTS of archaic hardware that is incompatible with the latest versions of FreeBSD - or Apple Mac, or Linux, or (sit down for this one) Windows. Staggeringly, you don't appear to realise this. You obviously have significant computer experience, but this is something the greenest newbie is aware of. > > You obviously have no idea what's wrong; why do you continue to reply? Maybe he was trying to help? That seems to have been a mistake. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:09:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16C416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:09:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB92E43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2MA9Pb31669; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Danny" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:09:14 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:09:18 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:52:40 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony >>> Atkielski Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:29 PM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? >>> >> >>> If the database becomes corrupted, which is highly unlikely, you >>> must restore it from your last backup (every mail administrator >>> takes frequent backups, which can be done online with Exchange). >> >> Only if you purchase a backup software. > > You are totally 100% wrong. NTBackup is included with Windows, and > is fully supported by Microsoft. > >> If you want to use windows backup you must shut down exchange >> because windows backup will not back up open files. > > Wrong. Have you bothered to read Microsoft's Exchange Backup & > Restore Guide? > I think they renamed it the Exchange Disaster Recovery Operations guide. You are correct only for for 2003 server+Exchange 2003. Not for Exchange 2000 or Exchange 5.5 on Windows 2K or NT4. And I will bet that this won't work if you try loading the next version of Exchange on 2003 server, or try loading Exchange 2003 on the next version of Windows server. The Exchange backup functionality is not in the Windows backup utility supplied with Server 2000 or NT4 except if you go through a clumsy process of first using the backup utility to backup exchange to disk, then backup again the resultant disk file to tape. Most people using windows backup in those environments don't do this, instead they shut down all the exchange server processes, run the backup, then start them all up again. That is fine for a small company. Not so fine for large enterprises. And the other problem is that not a single previous verison of Windows Backup or ntbackup or whatever you want to call it, is compatible with any other version. Now maybe Microsoft has decided to put an end to this rubbish and in 2003 server they decided to actually go ahead and settle on a tape format, so that our backups will actually be usable for more than a few years. But until they have proven they have done this - by not screwing with the format for a few revisions of Windows - a commercial backup software is still the only usable backup software for the large enterprise. Despite the studies like the one done by Radicati Group, http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4145 that claim Exchange 2003 has overtaken the prior versions of Exchange, I am still seeing a vast majority of Exchange 5.5 and 2000 servers among customers of the ISP I work at. I therefore have to conclude that only the large corporations with site licenses have gone ahead with Exchange 2003 upgrades, and that the smaller companies who can't afford yearly service contracts are sticking with their working servers. (because our customer base is skewed to the smaller companies, as is most ISP's) As a result the studies are skewed. > the Exchange > backup agents are a couple of hundred dollars. Pretty cheap when you > consider the value of corporate email these days Then why is Exchange a minority (only 33%) of the market for corporate e-mail? (according to the study URL cited above?) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:13:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04D816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com [81.94.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4043343D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfalizer@gmail.com) Received: by 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 240EB6104; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:16:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:16:49 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions list Message-ID: <20050322101649.GA15294@obygden> Mail-Followup-To: Ulf Magnusson , freebsd-questions list References: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> <20050321104319.GB1373@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321104319.GB1373@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:13:15 -0000 I switched to Postfix, and after a little twiddling everything works fine. I'll just stick with PF until I need some sendmail-specific feature. Anyway, thanks for your help! On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:43:19PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-20 14:21, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > > I'm trying to set up sendmail to route outgoing mail to an external > > SMTP server. I need this for Mutt, which doesn't have its own means of > > transfering mail and relies on whatever MTA the system provides. I > > found out about sendmail's SMARTHOST capability and added this line to > > my .mc configuration file (built by 'cd /etc/mail && make && > > make install'): > > > > define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.liu.se') > > > > I then installed the changes with 'make && make install && make > > restart'. Now, whenever I try to send mail from Mutt, I get back the > > following failure notice: > > > > % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:21 +0100 (CET) > > % From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > % To: > > % Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > % Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > % > > % [-- Bilaga #1 --] > > % [-- Typ: text/plain, Kodning: 7bit, Storlek: 0,5K --] > > % > > % The original message was received at Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:33:20 +0100 (CET) > > % from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > % > > % ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > % > > % (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) > > E-mail messages send by your local Sendmail have an envelope-from > address of . The remote MTA that receives the message > knows nothing about the machine called ``obygden'' and rejects the > message. > > One way to make this work is to use address-rewriting: > > 1. Start by adding the following to your ``/etc/mail/obygden.mc'' file: > > FEATURE(masquerade_envelope) > FEATURE(generics_entire_domain) > FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') > GENERICS_DOMAIN(`localdomain.net') > > Where ``localdomain.net'' is the local domain of ``obygden''. > > 2. Then in a file called ``genericstable'' in /etc/mail, put the > following: > > ulf@obygden ulfma629@student.liu.se > ulf@obygden.localdomain.net ulfma629@student.liu.se > > 3. Build a genericstable.db file and rebuild sendmail.cf: > > # cd /etc/mail > # make > # make install > > 4. Restart Sendmail: > > # cd /etc/mail > # make restart > > You should be set to go. Now the addresses the user ``ulf'' uses > locally will be rewritten by Sendmail to real addresses on their way out > and the receiving SMART_HOST/MTA will be happy to forward the messages > to their destination. > > - Giorgos > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:26:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF9B16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:26:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DDF43D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:26:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 22E671C000AB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:26:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 023A61C00099 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:26:13 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322102614925.023A61C00099@mwinf1103.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:26:13 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:26:15 -0000 Freminlins writes: > So stick with NT. Why would you change from something that runs > perfectly for 8 years? I was able to retire the legacy applications on the machine and I wanted to try something new. > That doesn't mean nothing has changed in 20 years, does it? It means that the age of the OS is not an issue. > And your hardware seems to not work very well with FreeBSD. Move on. No, FreeBSD doesn't work very well with the hardware. As a matter of fact, it doesn't work very well with the hardware on my production server, either. It seems that as soon as you install FreeBSD on a machine, the "hardware" fails. > That's not what has been said. Having read this thread (and others by > you previously) you have no intention of helping yourself. What would you suggest that I do? It takes a very long time to wade through OS source code. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:40:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D0B16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:40:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8A643D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:40:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 954B21C00082 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:40:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0727F1C000B1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:40:09 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322104010308.0727F1C000B1@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:40:09 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:40:14 -0000 Peter Risdon writes: > 1. Does either Windows 2003 or XP SP2, the only versions of Windows that > are meaningful comparisons with the latest versions of FreeBSD, fully > and without errors support this SCSI adapter and drive combination? I don't know. But I'm not trying to run Windows 2003 or XP SP2. > 2. Does a version of FreeBSD that is contemporary with NT and your > machine (ancient, unsupported, like NT) drive this hardware OK? I don't know. Why should I have to run an eight-year-old version of FreeBSD? Does every new version introduce regressions? UNIX still supports dumb terminals that are thirty years old. Why shouldn't FreeBSD support disks that are eight years old? > In the sense that maintaining support for all discontinued devices ever > made would be a seriously misguided use of resources, this is a feature > rather than a *defect*. You don't have to maintain support. Usually, just leaving the code in place is sufficient. That's why UNIX still has support for hardware that virtually no one still uses. My guess is that FreeBSD has _never_ supported this hardware correctly. People have been complaining about it for years. > You bet. Paid help is surely available. What you fail to realise is that > nobody is under any obligation to give you such detailed and > time-consuming help FOR FREE. So tell me again the advantage of open source, as opposed to proprietary software? > FreeBSD development follows the lines decided on by the development > team, just like every OS in the world. If no developers choose to spend > time fixing (non-destructive) issues for you, personally, then that's > their choice. If that is their choice, it's a pretty good one. It's not the sort of choice that is conducive to widespread use of the OS. Software developed by prima donnas answerable to no one makes large organizations nervous. > I'd love to see you harangue Microsoft for personalised development and > support in the way you've been haranguing this list. I have; some changes in NT were made because of my complaints. > And, after all is said and done, if your hardware is unsupported, so > what? It's very, very old. This isn't a fault or a defect; it's part of > the spec. What spec? I have fifty-year-old cameras that still work fine; there's no need to replace them every 18 months. Why should I have to replace computers every 18 months? > You can find LOTS of archaic hardware that is incompatible > with the latest versions of FreeBSD - or Apple Mac, or Linux, or (sit > down for this one) Windows. You have yet to establish that any "archaic" aspect of the hardware is at the root of this problem, and in fact you don't actually know what the problem is. There doesn't seem to be anyone here who actually knows anything about FreeBSD internals. Does anyone ever read the code? > Staggeringly, you don't appear to realise this. You obviously have > significant computer experience, but this is something the greenest > newbie is aware of. I do have significant computer experience, and I know how attached people become to their software. I can count on one hand the developers who have said, on the very bug report, "Oh yes, that sounds like a bug in my module--I'll get on it right away." It's _always_ Someone Else's fault in their eyes, and typically they'll never fix their mistakes unless their job depends on it (or if they do, they'll do so quietly and pretend that there was never any bug in the first place: "Your hardware problem must have gone away--you're lucky"). The hardware ploy, in fact, is standard procedure in technical support organizations. You always suggest it's hardware, and insist that the customer verify. That allows you to suspend the call with "waiting customer response" for days or weeks. If the customer ever actually does what you ask, you come up with some other hardware detail that has to be tested. The more awkward and time-consuming it is, the better. Some customers will give up rather than go through all the useless procedures you suggest; then you can close the call. > Maybe he was trying to help? That seems to have been a mistake. I don't need "help" from people who have no idea what they are talking about. I need help from someone who knows what's actually causing the error and is motivated by something a bit more altruistic than denial. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 10:46:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A9316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:46:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E8343D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:46:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2MAkVb31805 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:46:20 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:46:21 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync >> negotiation on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He >> refuses to try doing this. > > You're incorrect. I have _already_ done it, at your suggestion; it > had no effect, as I expected. > The dmesg you sent indicated that the 2 disks were negotiating at different sync rates. If you did limit them to 10mbt sync negotiation as you stated, then why does the dmesg show them at different rates? It seems to me that either you didn't limit them, or you did limit them and the SCSI controller or the Quantum disk overrode the limit anyway. In which case it would not have had any effect. I recall warning that this probably wouldn't work but it was the only simple and quick test that didn't involve cracking the case that I could think of. You should have seen that the limit was being ignored as soon as you rebooted. I also don't recall you posting the result of this test either in which case I would have reminded you it was a long shot anyway. >> I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD >> system off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single >> Seagate drive on it. He refuses to do that either. > > I'm not going to take the machine apart just to eliminate every other > possible cause in the universe before blaming it on FreeBSD. > Of course, because you know perfectly well that doing this would really prove it's either the hardware or FreeBSD, and you don't want to take the risk of it being hardware, and looking like a fool. > Only one thing has changed in this machine: I replaced Windows NT with > FreeBSD. Windows NT had no problem with the SCSI drives; FreeBSD has > a problem with them. Therefore FreeBSD is defective. > Let's assume for the sake of argument that a SCSI guru comes over to your house with a $100K hardware SCSI analyzer, determines it's a bug in the Adaptec microcode, then writes in a workaround in the driver. You would take it as proof that the FreeBSD driver was buggy - because it didn't contain the workaround for your buggy hardware. In short, in your universe, the only possible thing your going to believe is that it's a bug in the FreeBSD driver. Even if the bug isn't in the driver but in the hardware and the driver implements a kludge for it. > All I know, is that nobody who has replied to my questions is > competent or energetic enough to actually find the bug in FreeBSD. > You can argue all you want about that, but it's precisely this sort > of attitude that prevents operating systems like FreeBSD from being > adopted on a large scale in many organizations. If they delete NT to > try FreeBSD, and FreeBSD generates a raft of errors that NT never > did, and all anyone involved with the product can say is "it's your > hardware!" do you think that they're going to keep using FreeBSD? > The OS is obviously defective, since it is the only thing that > changed. There is no reason to look anywhere else UNTIL and UNLESS > the OS is ruled. Looking at everything else _first_ just to avoid > taking responsibility > for a bug in > the OS is not the way it's done. > Anthony, I have had EXACTLY the same kind of problem with NT4 back in 1998 when I was working for a company named Portland Software. (since defunct) In my instance it was a Pentium 200 clone motherboard with, as I recall, an Adaptec SCSI card in it (a relabled Future Domain controller that Adaptec bought and sold for a few years then cancelled) In fact, it wasn't just 1 it was 2 of these boards in identical servers. In one server it worked fine. In the other, with the exact same hardware, controller, disks, etc. NT bluescreened when I put more than 2 SCSI disks on the bus. NT ran fine with 2 or 1 disks. All 6 disks were the same model and mfgr. (quantum's actually) At the time Portland Software had not just a regular service contract/site license with Microsoft, they had a developers contract which allowed you to place calls to the extra-special tech support hotlines. I placed my call. Over the next month I sent a total of 5 dumps to Microsoft, trying to get them to tell me if it was a hardware bug or software driver bug (unlike you, I was willing to accept that it might of been a hardware bug despite the fact that the motherboards, disks, and controllers were all brand new) and if possible to write a workaround or fix into the driver. I got exactly nowhere. Oh sure, the tech support person claimed that the problem had been escalated to the developer. But they would just go away for a few days then e-mail requesting another dump. Then repeat the process. Meantime a server was tied up that I needed. (you would not believe what the company was using previously as a server) Eventually I just lived with 2 disks in the server. (Another fix would have been to buy a different model of controller, no doubt) This is EXACTLY how it is done in real life. When you run into these bugs that you can correct by changing around hardware, you mark it down as a hardware bug, change around the hardware, and be done with it. Unless that is you have infinite time to play back-and-forth games with the software people and keep a server quarentined while your doing it. That is also when I discovered how Microsoft gets away with telling the world that they will fix any problem that you call into their $250-and-incident tech support people. If you present them with a problem they cannot figure out, they will just ask for dump after dump, over and over, until you get tired of it and go away. Then they mark it down to the customer not wanting to pursue the ticket and pat themselves on the back and claim this must mean it was never their fault to begin with. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:08:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5989516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00C43D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CE5CC1C000BE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:08:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9BCD21C000BA for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:08:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322110848638.9BCD21C000BA@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:08:48 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1589026462.20050322120848@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:08:50 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > The dmesg you sent indicated that the 2 disks were negotiating at > different sync rates. If you did limit them to 10mbt sync negotiation > as you stated, then why does the dmesg show them at different rates? It dates from before the change. They both show 10.00 MB/s now in both the BIOS and dmesg, but the problem remains. > Of course, because you know perfectly well that doing this would > really prove it's either the hardware or FreeBSD, and you don't want > to take the risk of it being hardware, and looking like a fool. I don't care what I look like (I grew out of that decades ago), I just want a system that runs. I do know, however, that blaming hardware is the standard delay tactic for those who wish to deny the existence of software bugs. "Rule out every transistor in the machine, and then we'll talk." > Let's assume for the sake of argument that a SCSI guru comes over to > your house with a $100K hardware SCSI analyzer, determines it's a > bug in the Adaptec microcode, then writes in a workaround in the > driver. > > You would take it as proof that the FreeBSD driver was buggy - because > it didn't contain the workaround for your buggy hardware. Yes. But the problem would be fixed, and that's the important part. > In short, in your universe, the only possible thing your going to > believe is that it's a bug in the FreeBSD driver. Even if the > bug isn't in the driver but in the hardware and the driver implements > a kludge for it. This isn't a religious crusade. I just want hardware and software that work together. They did that with NT; they don't do that with FreeBSD. > Anthony, I have had EXACTLY the same kind of problem with NT4 back in > 1998 ... I'm not running NT4, I'm running FreeBSD, so it was obviously a different problem. > I got exactly nowhere. Oh sure, the tech support person claimed that the > problem had been escalated to the developer. But they would just go away > for a few days then e-mail requesting another dump. Then repeat the process. That's the way tech support works. In tech support, a call that is waiting for customer response is nearly as good as a call that is closed. Additionally, developers often don't ever get around to looking at problems sent to them by tech support. And they often play the same game, asking for this or that just to get the problem off their list. > This is EXACTLY how it is done in real life. Yes, I know how it's done in real life. > That is also when I discovered how Microsoft gets away with telling > the world that they will fix any problem that you call into their > $250-and-incident tech support people. If you present them with a > problem they cannot figure out, they will just ask for dump after > dump, over and over, until you get tired of it and go away. Then they > mark it down to the customer not wanting to pursue the ticket and pat > themselves on the back and claim this must mean it was never their > fault to begin with. That's right. That's how most companies do it. Is that the example you chose to follow? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:15:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369D516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:15:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6F243D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MBF9U7020545 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:15:12 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:15:08 +0000 Message-Id: <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:15:28 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 11:40 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Peter Risdon writes: > > > 1. Does either Windows 2003 or XP SP2, the only versions of Windows that > > are meaningful comparisons with the latest versions of FreeBSD, fully > > and without errors support this SCSI adapter and drive combination? > > I don't know. But I'm not trying to run Windows 2003 or XP SP2. You _are_ trying to run a version of FreeBSD equivalent to 2003/XP. > > > 2. Does a version of FreeBSD that is contemporary with NT and your > > machine (ancient, unsupported, like NT) drive this hardware OK? > > I don't know. Why should I have to run an eight-year-old version of > FreeBSD? Because you were making comparisons with an 8 y.o. version of Windows. Because it might be the case that you also have to run an 8 y.o. version of Windows. Because your hardware is 8 years old. Obvious, obvious, obvious. > Does every new version introduce regressions? UNIX still > supports dumb terminals that are thirty years old. Why shouldn't > FreeBSD support disks that are eight years old? Of course code gets retired. The choice is actively maintain it or remove it. > > > In the sense that maintaining support for all discontinued devices ever > > made would be a seriously misguided use of resources, this is a feature > > rather than a *defect*. > > You don't have to maintain support. Usually, just leaving the code in > place is sufficient. That's why UNIX still has support for hardware > that virtually no one still uses. Yes you do. No code is an island. Rather than see unmaintained code break as dependencies get changed, it gets removed. > > My guess is that FreeBSD has _never_ supported this hardware correctly. > People have been complaining about it for years. That's the sort of completely uninformed guess that has been pissing people off. But, having said that, FreeBSD does NOT support all hardware. I'm amazed you seem unaware of that. > > > You bet. Paid help is surely available. What you fail to realise is that > > nobody is under any obligation to give you such detailed and > > time-consuming help FOR FREE. > > So tell me again the advantage of open source, as opposed to proprietary > software? Sure - you have the source code. You CAN hack it, or pay someone to hack it, to make your drives work. If you wanted to, you could then distribute your own version of the OS, or maintain it in-house if the project closes or the product is discontinued. This isn't an option with closed source software and it means you actually own your technology yourself, fully and completely. And this is as obvious as it's possible to get. > > > FreeBSD development follows the lines decided on by the development > > team, just like every OS in the world. If no developers choose to spend > > time fixing (non-destructive) issues for you, personally, then that's > > their choice. If that is their choice, it's a pretty good one. > > It's not the sort of choice that is conducive to widespread use of the > OS. Software developed by prima donnas answerable to no one makes large > organizations nervous. Rubbish. It's a choice made by Microsoft too and it hasn't brought them to their knees. Windows XP upgrade disks include a compatibility check for exactly this reason. And it's not just hardware compatibility that has to be checked. > > > I'd love to see you harangue Microsoft for personalised development and > > support in the way you've been haranguing this list. > > I have; some changes in NT were made because of my complaints. Such as? And even if you can substantiate this, it's another so-what. Changes are made to FreeBSD following user interaction. This process is actually embedded in the FreeBSD development process (man 1 send-pr). > > > And, after all is said and done, if your hardware is unsupported, so > > what? It's very, very old. This isn't a fault or a defect; it's part of > > the spec. > > What spec? > > I have fifty-year-old cameras that still work fine; there's no need to > replace them every 18 months. And you can interface them directly with a recent computer? Non sequitur, again. If you had a camera that was old enough to use film stock that is no longer widely made, you'd have to cut your own. > Why should I have to replace computers > every 18 months? You don't. Why on earth do you say things like this? > > > You can find LOTS of archaic hardware that is incompatible > > with the latest versions of FreeBSD - or Apple Mac, or Linux, or (sit > > down for this one) Windows. > > You have yet to establish that any "archaic" aspect of the hardware is > at the root of this problem, and in fact you don't actually know what > the problem is. There doesn't seem to be anyone here who actually knows > anything about FreeBSD internals. Does anyone ever read the code? I'm not interested in establishing anything at all about your complaint. I have no idea what your problem is, even less interest, and like almost all the list subscribers, I have nothing to do with the FreeBSD project. [...] I've made enough completely obvious and self-evident responses. My mails are for the record on this list and for no other purpose, so I'll leave it at that. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:25:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB4116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:25:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7BF43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:25:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2MBOxmr025008; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:24:59 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2MBPXGF018295; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:25:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2MBPXsu018294; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:25:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:25:33 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ulf Magnusson Message-ID: <20050322112533.GA15787@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <951e41953ef5.953ef5951e41@liu.se> <20050321104319.GB1373@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050322101649.GA15294@obygden> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050322101649.GA15294@obygden> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mutt & sendmail configuration problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:25:37 -0000 On 2005-03-22 11:16, Ulf Magnusson wrote: >On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:43:19PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2005-03-20 14:21, Ulf Magnusson wrote: >>> [ Question about Sendmail, SMART_HOST and delivery failures like: ] >>> >>> % ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- >>> % >>> % (reason: 504 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address) >> >> [ Description of FEATURE(`genericstable') ] > > I switched to Postfix, and after a little twiddling everything works > fine. I'll just stick with PF until I need some sendmail-specific > feature. Anyway, thanks for your help! It's ok. As long as you can do what you want, it shouldn't really matter if you are using Sendmail, Postfix, Exim or whatever. One good thing about your question has reminded me of a comment a close friend has made several times: that the Handbook instructions about SMART_HOST are fine, as long as one uses the -f option of Sendmail in their .muttrc or a similar way to set the envelope-from address. But most people don't know what the difference is between envelope-from and the header-from address that their mailer sets. I should really update the Handbook one of these days. This particular item has been sitting in my TODO list for months now, waiting a bit of available time :-) Since a lot of people may read this thread in the archives of the list and have similar questions about Sendmail or Postfix, can you post a reply with a small description of the procedure needed to configure Postfix to do something similar? That would be nice to have in the list archives. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:32:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD4A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:32:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0F643D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:32:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2MBWKb31958 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:32:09 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1344929422.20050322102158@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:32:11 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> There is a third option. Microsoft can simply quite releasing new >> versions of it's established products and go to work creating new >> products that people would want to buy. > > That business model doesn't work, which is why no PC software > company is > using it. > This model works extremely well for computer gaming companies. And if I am not mistaken, gaming companies are the most profitable PC software companies aside from Microsoft, out there. (possibly even more profitable) It also works extremely well for Hollywood, who only extremely rarely will do more than 3 sequels of a popular movie, and quite often will back away from doing upgrades-I-mean-sequels of popular franchises in the fear of wrecking them. For example tons of people are clamoring for more Star Wars movies after the current one comes out this year, but Lucas has refused it. Quite obviously he could milk that cow for another 3 movies and probably get a billion out of it. It would of course completely destroy the franchise as by the time movie #9 came out, people would be so sick of them that it might take a century before you could even explore anything in that universe. > It costs a great deal of money to build completely new products, and > it can take a decade to recover the investment in development, even if > the product does well. Additionally, there is a huge risk of it _not_ > doing well, in which case the losses may be great enough to sink a > company. Overall, it's not nearly as safe or profitable as adding new > bells and whistles to existing products and releasing "upgrades." > Therefore all PC software companies emphasize upgrades, not new > products. > All of that is true. However it is also true that if you don't build new products that eventually your existing product line gets stagnant and a young upstart competitor will come in and wipe you out anyway. Just like Microsoft did to IBM. >> Think of it. Instead of every 2 years yet another tired old bloated >> overengineered version of Windows, they could come out with a brand >> new operating system named something completely different. For >> example, 'doors' > > Even Microsoft can't afford to do that. They were already taking > major risks with Windows NT, but fortunately it worked out. > The only reason NT was a risk (more accurately the NT architecture) was because Microsoft was telling everyone they were going to force the issue on the Windows 9x architecture ie: they were going to stop making Windows 9x versions after ME. They could have easily taken a path where NT-architecture (like NT4, 2K and so on) had NO backwards compatibility and would ONLY run NT-aware apps, and if you had a 32 bit app that wouldn't run on it, you just would keep buying Windows 9x. In fact, this direction was discussed many times pre Win2K. What Microsoft realized at the last minute I think is that since there's no copy protection on Windows 9x, that they could just ignore the issue as people would just keep making copies of it. So, in reality that is what is happening with the Windows 9x-to-NT architecture. People are still in fact installing Windows 98 on brand new hardware, that is why brand new motherboards are still coming with CD's that include Windows 9x drivers. That is why you can still run Windows Updates on a Windows 98 system and get your security updates. That is why new Windows programs mostly still run on it. Of course every year the number of new Windows 98 installs goes down. But they are still happening. > Nobody is going to rewrite 250,000 applications for a new operating > system today. New operating systems must not only be superior to > their competitors in a number of ways, but they must also have vast > amounts of > application software available for them in order to have any hope of > being adopted. The risks for the OS vendor and the application > developers are huge. That's why practically no one writes new > operating systems. That's why Apple couldn't afford to develop a new > OS. That's why Microsoft has consistently kludged its NT-based > systems to support older Windows applications. Even so, NT was > initially hurt by > a lack of > compatible applications. > This describes Linux and Linux according to the surveys is continuing to make inroads to Microsoft's business. Those 250,000 applications are only 250,000 applications today, right now. As the years pass more and more of those 250,000 applications will become obsolete and be retired with new ones. As the new ones are being written, more and more of them will be ported to Linux, assuming Linux continues to take market share. You are talking like a new operating system must be revolutionary. IBM tried that with OS/2 it didn't work. But you can be evolutionary with multiple product lines. And you also keep forgetting the power of a monopoly. If tomorrow Microsoft announced they had abandonded Windows development and the current version of Windows under development would be the last version released, and Microsoft was switching over to Linux, then within 5 years almost the entire industry would be hot and heavy switching over to Linux with the exception of a few BSD holdouts like us and Apple. And I will also almost guarentee that if Bill Gates wasn't running Microsoft, they would be already doing this. It is only because they are so full of themselves and the hydra they have conceived in Windows that they aren't even looking at doing this. But, Gates won't last forever, he's going to die eventually. Then Microsoft will start acting like all other companies. If Microsoft were to come out with a version of Linux today, labeled Microsoft Linux, it would put Red Hat out of business. This is true even if they kept their Windows product line. They would make just as much money as before, probably more in fact. The only reason they don't is they are emotionally tied to Windows. > > Except that nobody would buy Doors, because everyone wants to use > applications that run only on Windows. > Not in the beginning. Nobody wanted to buy OS/2 in the beginning either. But IBM and Microsoft kept selling it and eventually people did start buying it. And ultimately OS/2 was renamed Windows NT and people bought it a lot more. >> But of course, you won't ever see this kind of visionary product from >> Microsoft, because they are a company of mediocre programmers. > > No, you aren't likely to see this from Microsoft (or anyone else) > because the company doesn't want to dig its own grave. > > They've done it in the past: Windows NT being the classic example. > But it gets harder with each generation, and eventually it becomes so > expensive that even a Microsoft doesn't have the financial resources > to bet on such a project. > You don't need a lot of financial resources. If you want to change a large market, you can do it two ways. You can spend a little bit of money every year for many many years, or you can spend a lot of money in a few years. Microsoft doesen't have the money to instantly in a single year switch every PC desktop over to a completely different operating system. But they certainly have the money to spend the next 10 years gradually moving the market over to a completely different operating system. So do a lot of other people, like the Linux people. There are a huge number of markets where this has been done. For example, consider the simple Center Mounted High Brake Light you see on the back of most cars. This was phased in gradually. Today all cars have them. It really didn't cost anything to phase them in because the process took many years, since only new cars had them and it took many years before enough old cars went off the road for most of the cars on the road to have these brake lights. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:33:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767E916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D217643D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so937710wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:33:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=asplvxk7XSWOXTRlC6Jr6lIBkVZGIuiHtxo4CRZRurspOaM0YRNmqZmM0kNEbXW5TtZpXAFE2e5Ub+7dDKOD1bGvqZQNFFKWpBnLdruR2c9UL2qSebn6Hq2EBBuWHOcJMLJgH81YtTcq2htG9KcxQAKuOeingV+6X73yfRa3MTg= Received: by 10.54.11.66 with SMTP id 66mr2657015wrk; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:33:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:11 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:12 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:26:13 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Freminlins writes: > No, FreeBSD doesn't work very well with the hardware. As a matter of > fact, it doesn't work very well with the hardware on my production > server, either. So, you seem to have a problem. > It seems that as soon as you install FreeBSD on a machine, the > "hardware" fails. Not true. I look after 60 or so FreeBSD machines. They run fine. I did have a problem with a SCSI RAID on FreeBSD. I called the supplier and they took a look - the firmware on one of the drives was different to the others. They updated it and haven't had a problem since. > What would you suggest that I do? It takes a very long time to wade > through OS source code. Review the supported hardware list on the FreeBSD site. If the hardware is not on there, stop complaining. If it's supposed to be supported, raise it a PR and hope someone looks at it. > -- > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:39:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B765516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:39:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D4243D2F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (mwinf1107 [172.22.142.37]) by mwinf1110.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 778791C0480D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:39:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 684A81C000BA for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:39:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27A291C000B4 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:39:10 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322113910162.27A291C000B4@mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:39:09 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:39:22 -0000 Peter Risdon writes: > You _are_ trying to run a version of FreeBSD equivalent to 2003/XP. No, I'm just running FreeBSD 5.3. It has nothing to do with Windows. > Because you were making comparisons with an 8 y.o. version of Windows. > Because it might be the case that you also have to run an 8 y.o. version > of Windows. That is your guess. Personally, I decided not to guess, so I actually looked it up on Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List for Windows 2000. My machine is still there. See ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/whql/hcl/win2000hcl.txt and look for the HP Vectra XU 6/200 PPro (2p). > Because your hardware is 8 years old. Obvious, obvious, > obvious. Uh-huh. See above. Care to try again? > Of course code gets retired. The choice is actively maintain it or > remove it. You don't have to actively maintain code for hardware platforms that are not changing. If eight-year-old code worked with eight-year-old hardware eight years ago, it will still work with the same hardware today. You don't have to remove it or "maintain" it. UNIX is a prime example of this, since it contains decades-old code that still works, if you can find the hardware to exercise it. > Yes you do. No code is an island. Rather than see unmaintained code > break as dependencies get changed, it gets removed. That's not true. I've been there and done that. You don't have to change anything. Code doesn't wear out. If it worked then, it will work now. Only incompetent system programmers have problems with this, since their code is so convoluted that they cannot change anything anywhere without breaking something somewhere else. Fortunately, they tend to get weeded out of the pool in time. > That's the sort of completely uninformed guess that has been pissing > people off. Well, no. I researched the problem, and people have been complaining about it for a long time. Google is your friend. Instead of getting pissed off, you might want to actually look something up. I'm not the first person with problems like this by any means, but it looks like nobody has ever addressed them. Lots of people in denial, though, and that part obviously hasn't changed. > Sure - you have the source code. You CAN hack it, or pay someone to hack > it, to make your drives work. If you wanted to, you could then > distribute your own version of the OS, or maintain it in-house if the > project closes or the product is discontinued. This isn't an option with > closed source software and it means you actually own your technology > yourself, fully and completely. And this is as obvious as it's possible > to get. That's not an advantage. Nobody can dive into source code that way. That's not the way operating systems are built. > It's a choice made by Microsoft too and it hasn't brought them > to their knees. No. Microsoft sets goals and developers meet the goals or find employment elsewhere. The company's objective is to make money, not to pander to overgrown teenagers who are too immature to work effectively in a cooperative engineering environment. Those are the ones who never get into Microsoft in the first place. While the company is not completely free of developers who are convinced that butter wouldn't melt in their mouth, their developers are still a lot better than you find in many other companies ... which is one reason why they make so much money. > Such as? As I recall, the company planned to fix some problems by requiring an upgrade and I made it clear that an upgrade would not be acceptable to the customer base, and eventually they backed down. > Changes are made to FreeBSD following user interaction. This process is > actually embedded in the FreeBSD development process (man 1 send-pr). I'd like to get the bugs fixed first, before considering changes. > And you can interface them directly with a recent computer? Cameras don't need computers. > If you had a camera that was old enough to use film > stock that is no longer widely made, you'd have to cut your own. The film stock used in these cameras is still made today, and is available at every drugstore. > You don't. Why on earth do you say things like this? If you think eight years is old for a computer, then clearly you believe that computers must be replaced at regular and frequent intervals. I don't see any reason to do that. This old machine still runs just fine; why would I replace it? > I'm not interested in establishing anything at all about your complaint. So I've surmised. > I have no idea what your problem is ... I agree. Now if only someone who actually knew what he was talking about and were interested in helping out would reply. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:51:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDD143D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5B2E01C0009D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3D4971C0009C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322115137251.3D4971C0009C@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:36 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1889089856.20050322125136@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:38 -0000 Freminlins writes: > So, you seem to have a problem. Yes, FreeBSD seems to have a few bugs. > Review the supported hardware list on the FreeBSD site. If the > hardware is not on there, stop complaining. The AIC7880 controller is on the list. > If it's supposed to be supported, raise it a PR and hope someone > looks at it. And _hope_? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:51:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26E216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.int.xm.co.za (email.xm.co.za [196.23.175.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494B043D67 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from al@xms.co.za) Received: from mailnull by mail.int.xm.co.za with virus-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDi26-000LB2-Dn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:58:50 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.231] (helo=linux.site) by mail.int.xm.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDi26-000LAq-8E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:58:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:54:56 +0200 From: Andrew Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050322135456.708d547e@linux.site> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-suse-linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD installation with single / partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:48 -0000 Is this a serious no-no? I see this breaks make installworld... :\ Complains about / being read-only, and naturally there is no way for me to remount it r/w with the system being up... :( And a rescue CD kinda defeats the object of rebuilding from source... :( So, would I do best to reinstall this machine with a proper FS layout before putting it into production? -AL. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 11:53:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7359416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0837A43D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:53:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so941043wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:53:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jNCpWGVg2n/BE8Eaj/0QIZ8GeuSmeCURorxz7b6LtkFeI2DGPJqcR7jItxGFTOB90yzMcEjNKm6FFz6L/ITvMRhr4wLywOk2NQA9X1xvVj6dOFUJfnXXRYIW3TvgPJ7sLO9qqPxuwzFNMIozyrn4h+bKlo0wvzJQvAzjjZyctpQ= Received: by 10.54.39.76 with SMTP id m76mr2690901wrm; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:53:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:53:56 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1889089856.20050322125136@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <1889089856.20050322125136@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:53:57 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:36 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > And _hope_? Yes, hope someone looks into it. You get the support you paid for... > -- > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:00:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E05616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:00:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2540C43D5F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2MBxqdW014164; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:59:52 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2MC0QxI025865; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2MC0Qbq025864; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andrew Lewis Message-ID: <20050322120025.GA25300@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050322135456.708d547e@linux.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050322135456.708d547e@linux.site> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation with single / partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:00:31 -0000 On 2005-03-22 13:54, Andrew Lewis wrote: > Is this a serious no-no? > > I see this breaks make installworld... :\ Complains about / being > read-only, and naturally there is no way for me to remount it r/w with > the system being up... :( And a rescue CD kinda defeats the object of > rebuilding from source... :( You are definitely doing something wrong. The root filesystem should be mounted as read-write *before* you run installworld. The UPDATING file in /usr/src contains the following: To rebuild everything and install it on the current system. ----------------------------------------------------------- # Note: sometimes if you are running current you gotta do more than # is listed here if you are upgrading from a really old current. [7] make buildworld make kernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE [1] [3] src/etc/rc.d/preseedrandom [10] mergemaster -p [5] make installworld mergemaster [4] A few paragraphs below... [3] From the bootblocks, boot -s, and then do fsck -p mount -u / mount -a cd src adjkerntz -i # if CMOS is wall time Also, when doing a major release upgrade, it is required that you boot into single user mode to do the installworld. Note the ``mount -u'' and ``mount -a'' commands. > So, would I do best to reinstall this machine with a proper FS layout > before putting it into production? A single, big root partition is definitely a "proper" FS layout, if that's what you like doing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:04:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7B716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:04:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABFB43D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:04:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j2MC4pl26056 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:04:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:04:50 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:04:56 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski at Wanadoo.FR wrote: [ Not a lot ] Wanadoo.FR - says it all, really. No sane sysadmin accepts mail from that spam-house. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:05:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13A316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:05:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22D043D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2MCBPEe016974; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:11:25 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14382; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:04:51 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:04:51 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.017 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:05:05 -0000 Sorry, it's again I. So, I was trying to modify my OpenBSD pf brandmauer to collect me information about traffic. Now I has following rules: pass out on $ext_if proto tcp all modulate state flags S/SA pass out on $ext_if proto { udp, icmp } all keep state So, where could I put label to mark inbound traffic? This traffic goes into my machine because I use state table. -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:07:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9155416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:07:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB5943D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:07:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2MC7hb32130 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:07:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1589026462.20050322120848@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:07:33 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> The dmesg you sent indicated that the 2 disks were negotiating at >> different sync rates. If you did limit them to 10mbt sync >> negotiation as you stated, then why does the dmesg show them at >> different rates? > > It dates from before the change. They both show 10.00 MB/s now in > both the BIOS and dmesg, but the problem remains. > OK, well then that increases the chances that it is a driver issue and reduces the chances that it is a hardware issue. Assuming your termination is correct, that would increase chances it is a driver issue even more. Going to each single disk is what you really need to do now in order to make a definite finger point to the driver. You know, there is something else that coincidentally might relate to this. I have been working on a Compaq Professional workstation from time to time to setup a test workstation over the last week. It has a problem where under heavy use it will corrupt files written and read from the disk. This system was always a Windows box before, using a 1GB Seagate disk drive. (don't ask why Compaq would supply a 1GB disk it is rediculous) Here are some relevant bits of the dmesg that might interest you: . . CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 Features=0xf9ff . . ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x40080000-0x40080fff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs . . da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8191MB (16777215 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1044C) . . Now I can say one thing with certainty with this machine - Compaq has definitely modded the Adaptec microcode used on the controller here. Why do I know this? I know it because I tried removing the 2940 card from this machine and plugging it into another non-Compaq machine, and the card would not boot the disk in that system. However, a non-Compaq-labeled 2940 card works fine in that system. I had assumed the problem with this system was bad ram. But, I think I am going to try pulling that Quantum disk out of there and using a different one. > >> This is EXACTLY how it is done in real life. > > Yes, I know how it's done in real life. > Then why did you say it was done differently in your earlier post? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:21:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:21:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF6D43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:21:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MCKHBM027683; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:20:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:18:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:04:51 +0300") Message-ID: <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: emin@mccme.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:21:05 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > pass out on $ext_if proto tcp all modulate state flags S/SA > pass out on $ext_if proto { udp, icmp } all keep state > > So, where could I put label to mark inbound traffic? This traffic > goes into my machine because I use state table. I'd say something along the lines of allowed_out = "{ ssh, domain, http, https, etc... }" pass out on $ext_if proto tcp $allowed_out label allowed-out keep state you could differentiate among source addresses, for example by specifying client1 = "{ 192.68.n.1, 192.168.n.2 }" client1 = "{ 192.68.n.3, 192.168.n.4 }" client2_inports = { whatever they need } pass out on $ext_if from $client1 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ label client1 keep state pass out on $ext_if from $client2 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ label client2-out keep state pass from any to $client2 $client2_inports label client2-in keep state and so on. Hope this helps. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:28:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA98A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.int.xm.co.za (email.xm.co.za [196.23.175.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDC243D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from al@xms.co.za) Received: from mailnull by mail.int.xm.co.za with virus-scanned (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDiaP-000Bej-W2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:34:17 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.231] (helo=linux.site) by mail.int.xm.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDiaP-000Bee-R3; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:34:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:23 +0200 From: Andrew Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Message-Id: <20050322143023.1f67fd4a@linux.site> In-Reply-To: <20050322120025.GA25300@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050322135456.708d547e@linux.site> <20050322120025.GA25300@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-suse-linux) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation with single / partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:28:12 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:25 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > You are definitely doing something wrong. The root filesystem should be > mounted as read-write *before* you run installworld. Right you were, I was overlooking those extra instructions. ;) Working fine now. Thx for your help.... -AL. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:35:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3624416A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:35:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56243D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so1091763rne for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HUASiL7/Akd0gn/Agjjl/4CryE9VHnxQfhdvtVqPLa955YWB0fWiX8WSmFoEOHPTOD1/iGuIujulnh/+kcEOyvwQYS0UqpC05fQeTf0qa0eRTa6zKAzEIp9RUy8jHD0Slkh26DMNnK0PkerA5xrnwjdlTYNiYDP+wruIDBiZA7A= Received: by 10.38.162.43 with SMTP id k43mr5435369rne; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:35:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:35:19 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: stheg olloydson In-Reply-To: <20050322042027.81291.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322042027.81291.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: gonzak@klub.chip.pl Subject: Re: NIC nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:35:20 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:20:26 -0800 (PST), stheg olloydson wrote: > it was said: > > >How install in FreeBSD NIC card nVidia nForce MCP Network > Adapter > >based on Realtek 8201BL PHY ? > > Hello, > > If you are using 5.3, try the nv driver in ports/net/. After > building it, load it as a kernel module. I know it works for > MCP2. This may be available in earlier versions, too; I do not > know. > > good luck, > > stheg > So does this mean i can use my NIC on my asus sk8n (nforce 3 chip) too ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:40:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9240116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:40:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A1443D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:40:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pivlik@list.ru) Received: from [217.65.223.76] (port=26269 helo=russianb4dd71a) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DDigb-000CSM-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:40:42 +0300 From: "Pavel" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:42:47 +0300 Message-ID: <000001c52edc$a8813510$4cdf41d9@russianb4dd71a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Spam: Not detected Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:40:44 -0000 Hello dear friend! Some weeks ago I bought FreeBSD 5.3 CD-ROM. But I got the problem configuring internet connection. My ZyXEL OMNI 56K PCI Plus modem doesn't work. I have 1100MHz AMD Duron processor with 128Mb RAM. Modem connected to PCI slot #2. Modem based on Conexant CX11252 HSFi chipset. I tried to configure it to COM3 port but nothing work. What I should do? Help my please. Yours faithfully. Pavel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:42:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAA43D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2MCmsO1022737; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:48:55 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA23158; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:42:20 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:42:20 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.018 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:42:31 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 01:18:27PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: " "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: " " " I'd say something along the lines of " " allowed_out = "{ ssh, domain, http, https, etc... }" " " pass out on $ext_if proto tcp $allowed_out label allowed-out keep state " " you could differentiate among source addresses, for example by " specifying " " client1 = "{ 192.68.n.1, 192.168.n.2 }" " client1 = "{ 192.68.n.3, 192.168.n.4 }" " " client2_inports = { whatever they need } " " pass out on $ext_if from $client1 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ " label client1 keep state " " pass out on $ext_if from $client2 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ " label client2-out keep state " " pass from any to $client2 $client2_inports label client2-in keep state " " and so on. Hope this helps. Just a moment, does it mean that your last rule allow any incoming connections from world to clients if thay matched by client2_inports, ANY, not only connections opened by clients? Moreover, I read in documentation, that state table reads BEFORE rules, and connections that opened by clients in first rule: pass out on $ext_if from $client1 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ label client2 keep state whill not marked by label client2-in because thay don't pass to this rule. Am I right? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:46:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC3D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1710643D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pivlik@list.ru) Received: from [217.65.223.76] (port=62035 helo=russianb4dd71a) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1DDim5-000GfC-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:46:22 +0300 From: "Pavel" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:48:28 +0300 Message-ID: <000101c52edd$7325e2c0$4cdf41d9@russianb4dd71a> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Spam: Not detected Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Problem using soft modem (ZyXEL OMNI 56K PCI Plus) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:46:24 -0000 Hello dear friend! Some weeks ago I bought FreeBSD 5.3 CD-ROM. But I got the problem configuring internet connection. My ZyXEL OMNI 56K PCI Plus modem doesn't work. I have 1100MHz AMD Duron processor with 128Mb RAM. Modem connected to PCI slot #2. Modem based on Conexant CX11252 HSFi chipset. I tried to configure it to COM3 port but nothing work. What I should do? Help my please. Yours faithfully. Pavel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:49:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17A016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:49:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DBE43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 722517 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:49:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <376090f278a660716d7b251f720d93d4@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:49:44 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:49:49 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Freminlins writes: > >> Alternatively, show us it is not a firmware problem first. > > It ran for eight years without errors. > >> It's not throwing darts, it's sensible advice. NT is ancient, like >> your firmware no doubt. > > So your saying an anciety copy of NT is more reliable than a current > copy of FreeBSD? Holy Hannah would you just update the damn firmware as even the VENDOR would recommend and then move on from there instead of baiting people? Every damned vendor I've worked with likes recommending a firmware update after the obvious "are the cables connected" question is posed. Even for a !@#$ printer we had problems using with NetWare...and the firmware update DID fix it! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:51:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A5416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DAE43D2F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MCpPBM040483; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:51:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:49:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:42:20 +0300") Message-ID: <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: emin@mccme.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:51:37 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > Just a moment, does it mean that your last rule allow any > incoming connections from world to clients if thay matched by > client2_inports, ANY, not only connections opened by clients? That rule would let new connections from anywhere pass on the allowed ports to the clients. This might be useful mainly if your firewall is between the world and one or more servers, though. > Moreover, I read in documentation, that state table reads BEFORE > rules, and connections that opened by clients in first rule: > > pass out on $ext_if from $client1 to any proto tcp $allowed_out \ > label client2 keep state > > whill not marked by label client2-in because thay don't pass to > this rule. Am I right? In a word, yes. The 'keep state' in these examples, would AFAIK mean that the counters would keep track of all traffic for a connection, so traffic initiated from the inside would match the pass out rule's counters, while connections opened from the outside would count on the pass in rules. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:53:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F1716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:53:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from stelesys.com (web1.stelesys.com [63.175.100.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CACE43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:53:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbell@stelesys.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=www.stelesys.com) by stelesys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DDisX-000LAx-Tu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:53:02 -0500 Received: from 209.134.164.137 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jbell@stelesys.com); by www.stelesys.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:53:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1190.209.134.164.137.1111495981.squirrel@209.134.164.137> In-Reply-To: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:53:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Bell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:53:02 -0000 > No, the only way to find the error is to find someone who knows the > FreeBSD code and is competent and willing to discuss the problem, > instead of people who spend their time blowing smoke in order to avoid > admitting that they haven't a ghost of a clue as to what the problem is. You're looking for the reason that your older hardware runs on NT and doesn't run on FreeBSD. Save any real hardware problem, the reason is most certainly pure incompatibility between the hardware and the drivers that are in FreeBSD. When someone goes to write a driver (unless it's provided by the manufacturer, which I don't think is all that common) for a piece of hardware, they have a piece of hardware and some docs on how to interface with it. If the firmware on the board they are using is later than yours, and is incompatible in some slight way that the driver author took advantage of, you see this exact problem. The driver authors ask for people to test the drivers out - but if no one who is willing/ready/able to test is running an older firmware rev, then the testing doesn't extend back to your version and it's not found to be a problem until someone like you comes along and trips over an incompatibility. I've had this very thing happen for several different older raid cards. In every case, I fixed the problem by upgrading the firmware. Alternatively, you can try linux. They tend to support all sorts of crazy hardware versions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 12:54:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE7616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:54:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4291C43D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:54:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 723061 for multiple; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:54:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2176ba4c6c8885e9c422aeed9a7000f6@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:54:00 -0500 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:54:12 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 1:14 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> Anthony - >> >> I'm curious - with the issues you are having with the drives (SCSI >> I think you mentioned) have you considered these ideas? >> >> 1. Upgrade the system BIOS >> 2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller >> 3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) >> >> Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider >> doing so and see if this "may" correct your issues. >> > > Racer, > > Anthony has an on-motherboard Adaptec chip in an 8 year old Vectra. > It does not use firmware. It might be possible that he has a flashable > motherboard BIOS but that BIOS isn't going to have microcode for the > Adaptec controller in it. (And in any case if he's never flashed his > BIOS I would -strongly- recommend he don't do it now, since his eeprom > has probably had the existing BIOS code burned into it by so long > without > an update) He is stuck with the ROM that is burned into > the Adaptec controller by the manufacturer. And I wouldn't put it past > HP to have tampered with the Adaptec microcode anyway. Compaq > definitely > did with Adaptec controllers they put into their machines that were > made during the same era. Well...I apologize for the firmware statement I just made after seeing this. I've seen so many "upgrade your firmware!" "Why should I, it worked before..." statements that...well...y'know. Nice summary if this is what has been going on, Ted. I remember having a system that ran "fine" under NT and under Linux liked spewing SCSI errors and resetting the bus. Found out the drive was failing. A search for the error gave me one link that stated that NT doesn't report the error, whereas Linux's driver spews them to the console (this was a few years ago). From the sounds of it, I had a failing drive that Linux reported while NT would have run until the drive just gacked itself unexpectedly... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:05:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D5B16A4D0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:05:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5AE43D62 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:05:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20050322130550i9100t8j9ee>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:05:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4240182D.60405@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:05:49 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gnome menu editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:05:52 -0000 I had a hard time trying to track down this file, think it's part of one of the gnome meta-ports, posting it here for FYI. ftp://ftp.internat.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/gnome-menu-editor-0.1.tar.gz http://www.nbritton.org/uploads/gnome-menu-editor-0.1.tar.gz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:09:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9001716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA9F43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2MDFYO1048745; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:15:34 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA30466; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:09:00 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:09:00 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050322130900.GC3137@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.018 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:16 -0000 " " In a word, yes. The 'keep state' in these examples, would AFAIK mean " that the counters would keep track of all traffic for a connection, so " traffic initiated from the inside would match the pass out rule's " counters, while connections opened from the outside would count on the " pass in rules. " Unfortunely, this mean, that OpenBSD's pf can not measure traffic, because we can not separate incoming and outgoing traffic in bidirectional rule. Or we must not use keep state feature. -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:09:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (thunder.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF29A43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shanejp@netspace.net.au) Received: from [10.0.0.2] (dsl-202-45-125-5.NSW.netspace.net.au [202.45.125.5]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625A5428C5; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:09:44 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> References: <200503192043.j2JKhOxZ020031@cvs.openbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1d1978898910d3cf384c3925bb70fe4d@netspace.net.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Shane J Pearson Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:09:43 +1100 To: Scott Long X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Jason Crawford cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: Theo de Raadt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:57 -0000 Hi Scott, On 20 Mar 2005, at 7:43 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > % file bin/aaccli > bin/aaccli: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for > FreeBSD 4.4, statically linked, not stripped Is there a SPARC version? Even for FreeBSD? If I wanted to use these cards in one of my UltraSPARC machines, wouldn't I be kinda screwed? I presumably would not be able to use the built in BIOS management software since there's no x86 to execute it and I assume the bootable management CDROM will not be bootable on a SPARC? The thought of rebooting a machine to check and deal with the health of an array is bad enough, but if I had to move the card and disks to another machine with an x86 in it would be beyond ridiculous. I use and have mostly used in the past UltraSPARC and macppc in addition to x86 with OpenBSD. Wouldn't management open source code or documentation be my best option for expensive cards which I would be willing to buy if I could actually know about and be proactive with the arrays health? Shane J Pearson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:14:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB64616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:14:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC14243D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 725946 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:14:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9c07bb562656cd8cce0cd70dff184b93@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:14:38 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:14:44 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:13 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync >> negotiation >> on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He refuses to try >> doing >> this. > > You're incorrect. I have _already_ done it, at your suggestion; it had > no effect, as I expected. > >> I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD >> system >> off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single Seagate >> drive >> on it. He refuses to do that either. > > I'm not going to take the machine apart just to eliminate every other > possible cause in the universe before blaming it on FreeBSD. > > Only one thing has changed in this machine: I replaced Windows NT with > FreeBSD. Windows NT had no problem with the SCSI drives; FreeBSD has a > problem with them. Therefore FreeBSD is defective. Or it gave warnings that NT didn't. Or it showed problems that NT didn't. NT was more sensitive to hardware issues than Windows 9x was. OS/2 was more sensitive to hardware issues than NT was. Linux especially liked giving errors that NT didn't to the console. If it worked so well, why not put NT back on the machine and try running a battery of tests and diagnostics on the machine with NT to see if it was masking a problem or not? > I never lost data at all under Windows NT, either; and Windows NT never > slowed down. I don't remember ever losing data while using DOS... >> So the summary of it is that IMHO he LIKES things the way they are - >> it's been happening enough so that he's not afraid of losing data >> anymore, yet it gives him an error he can wave around every time he >> wants to knock FreeBSD's drivers. He isn't really interested in >> finding the root of the problem or isolating it to either a >> controller, a disk, or a software driver issue. Instead he thinks that >> the SCSI driver author can just wave a wand, and look at a non-debug >> output of the error messages, and magically know exactly what >> workaround to stick in the driver to make the error messages go away. > > All I know, is that nobody who has replied to my questions is competent > or energetic enough to actually find the bug in FreeBSD. You can argue > all you want about that, but it's precisely this sort of attitude that > prevents operating systems like FreeBSD from being adopted on a large > scale in many organizations. Really? Windows' problems are fixed by the benevolent leader Allchin in MS? Google for "breaking windows api" gave me a link from the past... http://security.tombom.co.uk/shatter.html. Care to tell me when they'll fix this? > If they delete NT to try FreeBSD, and > FreeBSD generates a raft of errors that NT never did, and all anyone > involved with the product can say is "it's your hardware!" do you think > that they're going to keep using FreeBSD? Or they could cover the other bases...that perhaps BSD is saying something that NT didn't report. > The OS is obviously > defective, since it is the only thing that changed. Yes, obviously FreeBSD is worthless. I don't know how Yahoo stays up, or our servers here. It's amazing. > There is no reason > to look anywhere else UNTIL and UNLESS the OS is ruled. I know that I routinely scour the OS source code for problems when one of our cobbled workstations acts up under Windows. Oh, wait, I was just reminded that usually it's a network card or video card that goes bad in old systems that prevents them from working. Or a bad memory stick, or a processor that overheated. But maybe those errors were caused by a bad Windows driver? I don't know. Just know that when I replace the part, the OS must suddenly have the bugs fixed in the source code too. > Looking at > everything else _first_ just to avoid taking responsibility for a bug > in > the OS is not the way it's done. Really? Here I thought that was called "troubleshooting", especially if the hardware in question is on the support hardware list and people on lists with the same hardware aren't having that problem. >> For all we know the SCSI device driver under Windows NT ran into the >> exact same error - and simply did the bus reset silently, without >> informing the user. That would be completely in character with how >> Microsoft approaches things (ie: if it doesen't kill the system the >> user doesen't need to know about it) > > That's how FreeBSD does it, too, based on the snippets of code I've > looked at. Silently resetting without telling you? Then what are the errors you're getting again? >> As I have told him before the only way to find the error is to install >> a SCSI analyzer onto the SCSI bus, and only Adaptec and the disk drive >> manufacturers have such a tool - and if one did, they would almost >> certainly find out it is some kind of low-level timing od SCSI command >> set implementation issue that would need a correction in either the >> Adaptec controller microcode, or one of the disk drive's microcode - >> and you could identify which disk it was a lot simpler and quicker by >> just doing the troubleshooting suggestions that have already been >> given to him. Besides which, a half hour of time on such a tool would >> probably cost more than the price of a brand new server. > > No, the only way to find the error is to find someone who knows the > FreeBSD code and is competent and willing to discuss the problem, > instead of people who spend their time blowing smoke in order to avoid > admitting that they haven't a ghost of a clue as to what the problem > is. Or you find someone with the same hardware setup and install the OS to see if it's reproducible. See, if it's reproducible on a likewise-configured machine, then you start looking at the drivers. Otherwise you could have a defective piece of hardware and you're the one wasting people's time. > You obviously have no idea what's wrong; why do you continue to reply? Because you're continuing to reply to his replies? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:15:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E9716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:15:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B019243D5E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:15:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85EF69A40; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:15:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:15:52 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Ned Harrison Message-Id: <20050322081552.54bb864f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200503212001.58780.ned.woody@cox.net> References: <200503201531.18590.ned.woody@cox.net> <20050320165526.3173a27a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200503212001.58780.ned.woody@cox.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:15:56 -0000 [My apologies to the moderator for the traffic, but I just unsubscribed, and I didn't want to leave this person hanging.] Ned Harrison wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:55 pm, you wrote: > > Ned Harrison wrote: > > > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then I've > > > had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will > > > sometimes freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." or > > > I'll lose contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the web. > > > From an earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will let the > > > system finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my ISP by > > > running "/etc/netstart" as root. > > > > > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later > > > I'll lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a pattern > > > to the disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again > > > everything works again. It can be hours before I the lose the connection > > > or sometimes I'll lose the connection again within twenty minutes. I've > > > searched for a permanent fix by looking throught this forum. But I > > > havn't found anything yet. Though that might be because I don't quite > > > know how to search! :-) > > > > > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is being > > logged around the time you lose connection. > > > > Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does > > ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The > > difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. > > Thank you for the suggestions. I've scanned the log files and didn't see any > unusual error messages. But that could be because I don't know what to look > for. I've run FreeBSD for just about one year and had no Unix experience > prior to that at all. I jumped from Windows, where somebody did everything > for me to, FreeBSD where I have to figure things out on my own with only > hints and suggestions. (Honestly, I find it funner this way!) I'll check to > logs next time it goes down. > > I copied the results from ifconfig when everything is working to a file. As > soon as I "lose the connection" I'll run ifconfig again. > > To get more defined regarding the loss of connection, it's almost as if I > typed "ipfw flush" as root and cut myself down to the default "deny > everything" rule. Sent emails will set unprocessed in the queue, when > attempting to download e-mail, K-mail will return an unknown host error > message, web browsers will either open to a blank white page or give me an > invalid ULR error message. It even went down while viewing a video on Xine. > The video just stopped, then I got an "invalid host" error message. As soon > as I type /etc/netstart. Boom! everythings up an running as if nothing was > ever wrong. I saw your other email as well, which shows that ifconfig during up/down is the same. That means that you're not losing your IP address, and the fact that /etc/netstart fixes the problem probably means it's not hardware related. So the next steps are to tear apart the networking system and figure out exactly which part of it is shutting off. First, do these: 1) Copy /etc/resolv.conf to your home dir: this contains your DNS server information. 2) Save the output of `netstat -rn` (use something like `netstat -rn > /home//netstat.txt` This is your routing table. Now ... the next time it goes down, check: 1) Did /etc/resolv.conf change? 2) Did the output of `netstat -rn` change? 3) In the netstat output will be a line that starts with "default", see if you can ping that IP address - if not, then the problem is probably with your switch/hub or other local network. 4) Try pinging 206.190.36.122 (that's the ip for story.news.yahoo.com), if it works, then the problem is likely with DNS. 5) if #4 works, try pinging story.news.yahoo.com ... if that fails, then DNS is almost certainly the problem, if that works, then the problem is somewhere in the network config, or application config. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:24:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB51716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2032143D5D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 726815 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:24:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:23:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:24:11 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:25 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Freminlins writes: > >> On a different OS. > > Exactly. With _identical_ hardware. So if the hardware ran under the > other OS, but not under this OS, where do you look first for the > problem? Depends on the problem. Windows 98 needed more reboots than NT did on the same hardware. By your comparison they should be the same in reliability and performance, no? > If your car runs perfectly for years with one brand of oil, and then > you > change brands and the engine seizes, where do you look for the source > of > the problem? But you didn't replace the oil. You replaced the engine and transmission. The OS is a little more than "just changing the oil" in car analogies. >> Don't try and put your words in my mouth. > > I'm just pointing out the unavoidable implication of what you said. NT > ran on this hardware for eight years without a hitch; FreeBSD cannot do > the same. It's not the hardware. Actually I think he suggested that NT was hiding the problem. And I *HAVE* seen that happen with a system that I switched to Linux. >> On your ancient hardware with an ancient OS you didn't have problems. > > UNIX is twenty years older than NT. Is anyone on this list running a twenty year old version of UNIX on their system? Most are running something of at least the 4.x line of FreeBSD, I thought... >> Why not stick with it if it's been so reliable? > > I wanted to try FreeBSD. You tried it, you didn't like it, reinstall NT and see if diagnostic software turns anything up and if not then see if the hardware continues to run hunky-dory for the next year or so without failing. No harm, no foul. If you really wanted to troubleshoot this, you'd find someone else that can get similar hardware to configure and see if they can reproduce the problem, or at least have you work with them on getting a trace of the problem (or try some liveboot Linux CDs to see if the errors show up there too). The FreeBSD team isn't going to chase their tails over one reported incident that seems specific to your hardware if you can't eliminate the possibility that your hardware is bad or has a bad connector or any of a myriad of problems that we've run into when previously working system just "happened" to stop working. > Is that what you tell people who have trouble getting FreeBSD to work? > "Reinstall your old OS"? Usually the first one I've heard is to check the compatibility list, because that's hardware that it's been tested on. Your hardware is on the list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:30:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E349216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C4E43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 59DEB13B958; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B5C13B85D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:07 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MDU6es054762 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:06 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V0207lvV8h4k8FAm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Subject: Anthony's issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:09 -0000 --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can we please STOP fueling Anthony's drivel? --Stijn --=20 Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQB3eY3r/tLQmfWcRAha0AJ942GAZdqqoph7KeJcCb/m0WicoJACcDBQJ Yi7BHcPQWpR0QSSL2d1nem0= =FoL9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V0207lvV8h4k8FAm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:30:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E0816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6143D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MDTxBM054500; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322130900.GC3137@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:28:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050322130900.GC3137@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:09:00 +0300") Message-ID: <868y4f6c9i.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: emin@mccme.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:30:12 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > Unfortunely, this mean, that OpenBSD's pf can not measure > traffic, because we can not separate incoming and outgoing > traffic in bidirectional rule. Or we must not use keep state > feature. I think I understand what you mean - you do not want per connection statistics, you want packets passed by direction, regardless of which side initiated the traffic, subdivided by pass rule. At the moment I'm not sure how to put that into pf.conf rules, but you may want to go where the real pf experts hang out - pf@benzedrine.cx - and see if there's an angle we haven't thought of. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 13:34:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE4816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:34:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B68543D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:34:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 727636 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:35:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:34:51 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:34:59 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:26 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Freminlins writes: > >> So stick with NT. Why would you change from something that runs >> perfectly for 8 years? > > I was able to retire the legacy applications on the machine and I > wanted > to try something new. And you ran into a snag that you can't work through. Most people if they were doing this on a lark would either replace the hardware or try a different distro. There's some hardware here that I've gone through probably three or four different liveboot CDs of Linux to get working properly just because I didn't want to dedicate the time to troubleshooting every last config problem. Although when it comes to SCSI bus resets, it seemed to usually be a problem with one of the drives or the controller going bad. When I ran into that error before, I remember seeing another person post to a list saying that NT doesn't report the reset error. Linux did. Maybe this is what you're running into? >> That doesn't mean nothing has changed in 20 years, does it? > > It means that the age of the OS is not an issue. But...didn't you bring that up? And the design of the OS may be 20 years old, but the OS most people are using isn't. >> And your hardware seems to not work very well with FreeBSD. Move on. > > No, FreeBSD doesn't work very well with the hardware. As a matter of > fact, it doesn't work very well with the hardware on my production > server, either. Is the hardware on the compatibility list? What is it? > It seems that as soon as you install FreeBSD on a machine, the > "hardware" fails. If this is your gripe, then go back or work with people (without baiting them) to get it looked at. If your production server isn't unsupported hardware, people may try to help you. If this isn't what you want to pursue as an avenue, then install something else. My impression is that you installed it, it had some errors, and after people said they've had this happen with bad hardware, you simply refuse to believe the possibility that something could have been wrong but NT didn't *TELL* you about it, and then want to launch into an attack on the OS in a list where people are running FreeBSD quite happily on a wide range of hardware. The stories just don't jive. You're implying it doesn't work and is crap because all your hardware isn't working with it. This list is populated by people that have worked out problems and configuration errors and are running it without trouble. Something just intuitively tells me that at this point you're more concerned with pissing people off to make a point. Most people trying this on a lark would say, well, it didn't work, so maybe I'll try this instead...if it's not worth your time to try fixing it. You implied you did this installation on a lark. Well, let it go then. Try a Linux distro. I've seen posts by people before saying they use Linux Live CD's to test laptops at stores before buying. Probably the best thing for you to try is Linux Knoppix on your server, see if it boots and sees errors. If Linux *and* FBSD see errors, I think it's safe to say it is a problem with your hardware that NT wasn't reporting. Especially if your hardware is on the compatibility list and is erroring out. >> That's not what has been said. Having read this thread (and others by >> you previously) you have no intention of helping yourself. > > What would you suggest that I do? It takes a very long time to wade > through OS source code. Read my above suggestions. 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Mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:00:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E02216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E2C43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDD060DB; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:00:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93575-02; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:00:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323D460D8; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:00:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <424024FD.7080801@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:00:29 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:00:18 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > >>Anthony - >> >> I'm curious - with the issues you are having with the drives (SCSI >>I think you mentioned) have you considered these ideas? >> >>1. Upgrade the system BIOS >>2. Upgrade the firmware in the SCSI controller >>3. Upgrade the firmware in the array (if applicable) >> >>Ther may be a bug-a-boo in one of those. If you have not - consider >>doing so and see if this "may" correct your issues. >> > > > Racer, > > Anthony has an on-motherboard Adaptec chip in an 8 year old Vectra. > It does not use firmware. It might be possible that he has a flashable > motherboard BIOS but that BIOS isn't going to have microcode for the > Adaptec controller in it. (And in any case if he's never flashed his > BIOS I would -strongly- recommend he don't do it now, since his eeprom > has probably had the existing BIOS code burned into it by so long without > an update) He is stuck with the ROM that is burned into > the Adaptec controller by the manufacturer. And I wouldn't put it past > HP to have tampered with the Adaptec microcode anyway. Compaq definitely > did with Adaptec controllers they put into their machines that were > made during the same era. > > I also checked his disk drives and neither of them have upgradable > firmware in the drives. > > He does not have an array controller. > > As I've told him in the past, he has 2 disks on his SCSI chain, one > of them is a Seagate that syncs up at 10Mbt to the controller, the other > is a newer Quantum that syncs up at 20Mbt. > > I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync negotiation > on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He refuses to try doing > this. > I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD system > off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single Seagate drive > on it. He refuses to do that either. > > Others have told him to check termination. It is possible one or both > drives are pinned for termination, and since his chassis provides > termination > that would be an error. It is also possible that one or both drives > isn't > pinned to supply terminator power to the bus which would be a problem as > well. > He has dismissed all of these without checking, claiming his termination > is > fine. > > The basic problem is that Anthony has an error that is non-damaging > to his data - every once in a while the machine spews a bunch of SCSI > errors, resets the bus and everything on it, things slow down for a > moment, > then life continues. He has by his admission, not lost data - yet. > > So the summary of it is that IMHO he LIKES things the way they are - > it's been happening enough so that he's not afraid of losing data > anymore, > yet it gives him an error he can wave around every time he wants to > knock FreeBSD's drivers. He isn't really interested in finding the root > of the problem or isolating it to either a controller, a disk, or a > software > driver issue. Instead he thinks that the SCSI driver author can just > wave > a wand, and look at a non-debug output of the error messages, and > magically > know exactly what workaround to stick in the driver to make the error > messages > go away. > > It is rather amusing or pathetic now, depending on your POV. > > For all we know the SCSI device driver under Windows NT ran into the > exact same error - and simply did the bus reset silently, without > informing > the user. That would be completely in character with how Microsoft > approaches > things (ie: if it doesen't kill the system the user doesen't need to know > about it) > > As I have told him before the only way to find the error is to install > a > SCSI analyzer onto the SCSI bus, and only Adaptec and the disk drive > manufacturers > have such a tool - and if one did, they would almost certainly find out > it > is some kind of low-level timing od SCSI command set implementation issue > that would need a correction in either > the Adaptec controller microcode, or one of the disk drive's microcode - > and you could identify which disk it was a lot simpler and quicker by > just doing the troubleshooting suggestions that have already been given > to > him. Besides which, a half hour of time on such a tool would probably > cost > more than the price of a brand new server. > > Ted Ted, I understand what your saying - and anyone that works with SCSI also knows that the xfer rate is only going to be as fast as the slowest drives. That's just how SCSI works. Not to mention mixing the Seagate and Quantum drives. Anyone also knows that when you wish to use multiple SCSI drives, you try to install the drives that are alike, if not, at least made by the same company to reduce the issues one may indeed see. -- Best regards, Chris A budget is spending $15.00 on gas to drive to a shopping mall to save $4.30 on a 20 pound turkey. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E719F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF0843D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:02:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5D960DB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:01:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93577-03 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:01:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5F960F3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:01:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42402567.6070908@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:02:15 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:02:01 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > >>I have told him to go into his Vectra BIOS and limit the sync negotiation >>on both disk drives to the same speed - 10Mbt. He refuses to try doing >>this. > > > You're incorrect. I have _already_ done it, at your suggestion; it had > no effect, as I expected. > > >>I've also told him to remove the Quantum and try running a FreeBSD system >>off the Seagate, to see if it errors with just the single Seagate drive >>on it. He refuses to do that either. > > > I'm not going to take the machine apart just to eliminate every other > possible cause in the universe before blaming it on FreeBSD. > > Only one thing has changed in this machine: I replaced Windows NT with > FreeBSD. Windows NT had no problem with the SCSI drives; FreeBSD has a > problem with them. Therefore FreeBSD is defective. > > >>The basic problem is that Anthony has an error that is non-damaging to >>his data - every once in a while the machine spews a bunch of SCSI >>errors, resets the bus and everything on it, things slow down for a >>moment, then life continues. He has by his admission, not lost data - >>yet. > > > I never lost data at all under Windows NT, either; and Windows NT never > slowed down. > > >>So the summary of it is that IMHO he LIKES things the way they are - >>it's been happening enough so that he's not afraid of losing data >>anymore, yet it gives him an error he can wave around every time he >>wants to knock FreeBSD's drivers. He isn't really interested in >>finding the root of the problem or isolating it to either a >>controller, a disk, or a software driver issue. Instead he thinks that >>the SCSI driver author can just wave a wand, and look at a non-debug >>output of the error messages, and magically know exactly what >>workaround to stick in the driver to make the error messages go away. > > > All I know, is that nobody who has replied to my questions is competent > or energetic enough to actually find the bug in FreeBSD. You can argue > all you want about that, but it's precisely this sort of attitude that > prevents operating systems like FreeBSD from being adopted on a large > scale in many organizations. If they delete NT to try FreeBSD, and > FreeBSD generates a raft of errors that NT never did, and all anyone > involved with the product can say is "it's your hardware!" do you think > that they're going to keep using FreeBSD? The OS is obviously > defective, since it is the only thing that changed. There is no reason > to look anywhere else UNTIL and UNLESS the OS is ruled. Looking at > everything else _first_ just to avoid taking responsibility for a bug in > the OS is not the way it's done. > > >>For all we know the SCSI device driver under Windows NT ran into the >>exact same error - and simply did the bus reset silently, without >>informing the user. That would be completely in character with how >>Microsoft approaches things (ie: if it doesen't kill the system the >>user doesen't need to know about it) > > > That's how FreeBSD does it, too, based on the snippets of code I've > looked at. > > >>As I have told him before the only way to find the error is to install >>a SCSI analyzer onto the SCSI bus, and only Adaptec and the disk drive >>manufacturers have such a tool - and if one did, they would almost >>certainly find out it is some kind of low-level timing od SCSI command >>set implementation issue that would need a correction in either the >>Adaptec controller microcode, or one of the disk drive's microcode - >>and you could identify which disk it was a lot simpler and quicker by >>just doing the troubleshooting suggestions that have already been >>given to him. Besides which, a half hour of time on such a tool would >>probably cost more than the price of a brand new server. > > > No, the only way to find the error is to find someone who knows the > FreeBSD code and is competent and willing to discuss the problem, > instead of people who spend their time blowing smoke in order to avoid > admitting that they haven't a ghost of a clue as to what the problem is. > > You obviously have no idea what's wrong; why do you continue to reply? > Anthony - one word describes your hardware, Legacy - consider running 4.11 (Legacy) -- Best regards, Chris A drug is that substance which, when injected into a rat, will produce a scientific report. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:04:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4196816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17BB43D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:03:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5835E60DB for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:03:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93575-05 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:03:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A0360D8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:03:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <424025E3.80105@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:04:19 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> <1135566054.20050322102902@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1135566054.20050322102902@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:04:00 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > >>You have no proof of that unless you were to run the tests that I >>already posted. > > > You're wasting my time. Perhaps somebody who actually understands how > FreeBSD works will offer useful assistance sooner or later, although I'm > less and less optimistic. > There you go again, insulting the user-base. Shame on you - have you not been taught mannors? Ever hear the phrase, don't bite the hand that feed you? -- Best regards, Chris A drug is that substance which, when injected into a rat, will produce a scientific report. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:11:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBE916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB65843D5D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 731547 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:12:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7c2cf9b1abb85ee648b5764f9c7915f4@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:11:50 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11:59 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:40 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Peter Risdon writes: > >> 2. Does a version of FreeBSD that is contemporary with NT and your >> machine (ancient, unsupported, like NT) drive this hardware OK? > > I don't know. Why should I have to run an eight-year-old version of > FreeBSD? Instead of a five year old version of Windows? :-) > Does every new version introduce regressions? UNIX still > supports dumb terminals that are thirty years old. Because dumb terminals are just smart serial modems? > Why shouldn't > FreeBSD support disks that are eight years old? Because those specs haven't been obsoleted? > My guess is that FreeBSD has _never_ supported this hardware correctly. > People have been complaining about it for years. Um...if the hardware wasn't working with FreeBSD, why did you install it, or try getting people to support it now that it's so old that most people aren't running it and you want a special effort devoted to getting it to work? >> You bet. Paid help is surely available. What you fail to realise is >> that >> nobody is under any obligation to give you such detailed and >> time-consuming help FOR FREE. > > So tell me again the advantage of open source, as opposed to > proprietary > software? No one is stopping you from doing the work yourself. You said it yourself that it just takes a huge amount of time to sit down and go through and comprehend. The advantage is that if you wanted to do it, you could. Or you can contract someone to do it for you. >> FreeBSD development follows the lines decided on by the development >> team, just like every OS in the world. If no developers choose to >> spend >> time fixing (non-destructive) issues for you, personally, then that's >> their choice. If that is their choice, it's a pretty good one. > > It's not the sort of choice that is conducive to widespread use of the > OS. Software developed by prima donnas answerable to no one makes > large > organizations nervous. They're not out to please just you. When they're obligated to do so, it's a job, not a hobby. They're not out to take over the business world. They're scratching an itch, or working for a principal or philosophy...try listening to Stallman's speeches on what Open Source means. >> I'd love to see you harangue Microsoft for personalised development >> and >> support in the way you've been haranguing this list. > > I have; some changes in NT were made because of my complaints. Out of curiosity...what changes? And did they give you credit? > I have fifty-year-old cameras that still work fine; there's no need to > replace them every 18 months. Why should I have to replace computers > every 18 months? Why did you replace the OS and stress out when it didn't fit your bill of needs? >> You can find LOTS of archaic hardware that is incompatible >> with the latest versions of FreeBSD - or Apple Mac, or Linux, or (sit >> down for this one) Windows. > > You have yet to establish that any "archaic" aspect of the hardware is > at the root of this problem, and in fact you don't actually know what > the problem is. Wow...take this much further and I'd suggest you find someone on the list that wants to really really prove you wrong you could arrange to have that person take the hardware and run the diagnostics for your and ship it back to you afterwards with their findings... > There doesn't seem to be anyone here who actually knows > anything about FreeBSD internals. Does anyone ever read the code? If I highlight it and click the symbol in the application's name menu, then services, then speech, then start speaking text, it reads it... :-) > The hardware ploy, in fact, is standard procedure in technical support > organizations. Oddly enough, for us the hardware solution is correct about 95% of the time after going through the list of things the "user didn't do" with the configuration. For a ploy it sure tends to be accurate. > You always suggest it's hardware, and insist that the > customer verify. If it's usually what actually had caused the problem, you're damned right they're going to suggest that be checked. Why devote the man-hours to debugging and reconfiguring if it's a cable that worked loose? > The more awkward and time-consuming it is, the better. > Some customers will give up rather than go through all the useless > procedures you suggest; then you can close the call. See, this is part of what's supposed to be natural selection in business. If you treat a customer like crap, you lose customers, and eventually go out of business, unless you're a monopoly. It's part of capitalism. If what you're suggesting were true and this system works, then they would go away. Obviously if you're in the minority experiencing horrendous issues with a particular company or group, then you're making a commotion over nothing as there are many other people that have been more than satisfied with their service. You're saying as a blanket statement that tech support is terrible. Well, then do something about it. If the market is truly that bad and the customer is truly as competent as you're giving them credit for then it should be no problem at all for you to start a tech support company that can beat the pants off everyone else. >> Maybe he was trying to help? That seems to have been a mistake. > > I don't need "help" from people who have no idea what they are talking > about. And replying like that will surely be conducive to getting other people to suggest things to help you. > I need help from someone who knows what's actually causing the > error and is motivated by something a bit more altruistic than denial. Or you just do what people suggested then post the results instead of just saying that their suggestion won't work because you're certain what the problem is and demand satisfaction with your solution. And when people are saying that it's more likely X but you insist it's Y and you don't want to take the time to do Y because there are others who should be more competent with it, what are you going to do to compensate them if they drop everything to do Y and find out it wasn't, in fact, their fault? Anything? When you make demands of people, they generally start expecting compensation for it. When you're taking advantage of other people's work, they generally expect some kind of payback, usually with something like encouragement or gratitude. The BSD team isn't out to displace Windows or "take down" Microsoft or take over the desktop or even make you in particular happy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:15:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAFB16A4D1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:15:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE3A43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 731995 for multiple; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:15:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <25a21672d1f26a7a864591057fa04250@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:15:38 -0500 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:15:49 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:46 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > That is also when I discovered how Microsoft gets away with telling the > world that they will fix any problem that you call into their > $250-and-incident > tech support people. If you present them with a problem they cannot > figure out, they will just ask for dump after dump, over and over, > until you get tired of it and go away. Then they mark it down to the > customer not wanting to pursue the ticket and pat themselves on the > back > and claim this must mean it was never their fault to begin with. We had a similar issue with a terminal server crashing periodically. Dump after dump sent to Dell and MS...each time they were baffled to the cause. Turned out a particular application was causing it. the users would have their terminal session "lock up", they'd restart their computer, log into a different server (or the same one, if it was restarted in time) and then keep going without telling people while we were scrambling to try diagnosing why the #@$! server restarted. After the money spent and time wasted, we ended up solving the problem ourselves and Dell and MS closed the issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:16:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:16:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA7E43D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:16:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DDF60D8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93577-07 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A169160F3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <424028D5.4050008@makeworld.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:53 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:16:35 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Peter Risdon writes: > > >>You _are_ trying to run a version of FreeBSD equivalent to 2003/XP. > > > No, I'm just running FreeBSD 5.3. It has nothing to do with Windows. > > >>Because you were making comparisons with an 8 y.o. version of Windows. >>Because it might be the case that you also have to run an 8 y.o. version >>of Windows. > > > That is your guess. > > Personally, I decided not to guess, so I actually looked it up on > Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List for Windows 2000. My machine is > still there. See > > ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/whql/hcl/win2000hcl.txt > > and look for the HP Vectra XU 6/200 PPro (2p). > > >>Because your hardware is 8 years old. Obvious, obvious, >>obvious. > > > Uh-huh. See above. Care to try again? ... and as of June 2005, MS retires 2000 - at least thats the projected date. You have to know and realize this. In addition, if you went back to NT - you would also know you are on your own being that MS stopped support about a year ago. It's really very simple. Get 2 SCSI drives that are alike, that will most likely halt your issies. If you doubt that - pick up ANY Server+ or A+ book. Hell - search Google and see what diff SCSI drives and diff speeds will do to. The answer is so plain, it's so simple - yet, you refuse to consider the obvious - you give a doubting Thomas a bad name. -- Best regards, Chris You may know where the market is going, but you can't possibly know where it's going after that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:21:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB99016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:21:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E5943D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB2CC5136F; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:21:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:21:51 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Message-ID: <20050322142151.GA20041@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200503220931.j2M9VP4i033721@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503220931.j2M9VP4i033721@asarian-host.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:21:52 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:31:25AM +0000, Mark wrote: > > > cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f > > > libz.so libz.so.1; > > > ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; > So, to reiterate, where is the new shared library, libz.so? You were looking in /usr/lib, not /usr/local/lib. Kris --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQCn/Wry0BWjoQKURAgskAKDAucE36SzMjgXUtuWT/pkHuvXQ8wCgmh/t lQFIEzYgzuRoo1yJrRrffp8= =H741 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:25:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F20D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:25:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C9C43D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:25:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2MEPLV5002565; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2MEPJoH028407; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:25:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <423F837A.4040807@daleco.biz> References: <423F837A.4040807@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5a3e2fef4c87a787c40a848794197483@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:25:17 -0500 To: Kevin Kinsey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Andrew Robinson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:25:30 -0000 On Mar 21, 2005, at 9:31 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > *If I'm wrong, it's Chuck's fault, heh heh.... It's always my fault, even when it's not my fault. (I must have done something. What did I do, again? :-) -- -Chuck "guilty!" Swiger PS: Kevin's suggestion is not a bad idea, either that or submitting the pciconf data as a PR, so it doesn't get lost.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:36:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F386916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:36:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA53E43D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MEaCat021158 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:36:12 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <1111482627.751.174.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <1111482627.751.174.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:36:12 +0000 Message-Id: <1111502172.751.268.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: usb interface boards and drivers[solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:36:26 -0000 I was forgetting that this is FreeBSD, with unparallelled breadth of hardware support 8-) So of course these chips are supported. device uftdi device ucom Peter. On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 09:10 +0000, Peter Risdon wrote: > I'm trying to determine the best way to interface a device like a servo > motor controller to a usb bus. Boards such as those produced by FTDI > would be useful but they have no FreeBSD drivers. > > http://www.ftdichip.com/FTProducts.htm > > If anyone knows of any similar products that do have FreeBSD drivers, or > can suggest resources that document an alternative approach, I'd be very > grateful for a steer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:37:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E282E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:37:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B92643D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:37:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 735298 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:37:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <886fc525766882003f9259acad96c870@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:37:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:37:28 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Peter Risdon writes: > >> You _are_ trying to run a version of FreeBSD equivalent to 2003/XP. > > No, I'm just running FreeBSD 5.3. It has nothing to do with Windows. This seems to be evidence that you're intentionally being obtuse. Are you incapable of making the cognitive leap of comprehension that FreeBSD 5.3 is effectively the latest release, just as MS's Windows 2003 is their latest release? And if you jumped from Windows 2000, nearly 5 years old, to the newest version of FreeBSD's release, the *equivalent* is going to Windows 2003? Hence the word, "equivalent", in that context? >> Because you were making comparisons with an 8 y.o. version of Windows. >> Because it might be the case that you also have to run an 8 y.o. >> version >> of Windows. > > That is your guess. > > Personally, I decided not to guess, so I actually looked it up on > Microsoft's Hardware Compatibility List for Windows 2000. My machine is > still there. See > > ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/services/whql/hcl/win2000hcl.txt > > and look for the HP Vectra XU 6/200 PPro (2p). And is it on the FreeBSD compatibility list? >> Because your hardware is 8 years old. Obvious, obvious, >> obvious. > > Uh-huh. See above. Care to try again? And it's on an old compatibility list for an old OS. Bravo! Now is it on the current HCL for FreeBSD? > You don't have to actively maintain code for hardware platforms that > are > not changing. Even if the subsystems or other parts of the OS change in a way that breaks old code? I think that means it has to be actively maintained. Duh. > If eight-year-old code worked with eight-year-old > hardware eight years ago, it will still work with the same hardware > today. You don't have to remove it or "maintain" it. Only if you're running the old version of the software from the time. See previous statement. > UNIX is a prime example of this, since it contains decades-old code > that > still works, if you can find the hardware to exercise it. Want to run a diff against the sources to see what, if anything, has changed? How much hasn't changed? >> Yes you do. No code is an island. Rather than see unmaintained code >> break as dependencies get changed, it gets removed. > > That's not true. I've been there and done that. You don't have to > change anything. Code doesn't wear out. If it worked then, it will > work now. Only if nothing in the interfaces has changed. Or firmware. Or anything else that it must interact with. Unless the system is so braindead simple that it doesn't take advantage of anything advanced in hardware...but if that were your goal, I'm sure you'd be running a version of FreeDOS. >> That's the sort of completely uninformed guess that has been pissing >> people off. > > Well, no. I researched the problem, and people have been complaining > about it for a long time. Google is your friend. Instead of getting > pissed off, you might want to actually look something up. I'm not the > first person with problems like this by any means, but it looks like > nobody has ever addressed them. Lots of people in denial, though, and > that part obviously hasn't changed. Sooo you've researched it, and of course posted your links to substantiate your claims (correct?), and move into the realm of arguing with people to support old hardware. If your links checked out and it is overwhelmingly obvious that it's the code, then maybe you can start being your charming self and convince people to start rewriting code to support an old chipset in their spare time. Look through the support lists for the name(s) of developers that are in charge of the scsi code in question and ask them nicely if they would be willing to look into it instead of telling everyone what dimwits they are in a questions list. >> Sure - you have the source code. You CAN hack it, or pay someone to >> hack >> it, to make your drives work. If you wanted to, you could then >> distribute your own version of the OS, or maintain it in-house if the >> project closes or the product is discontinued. This isn't an option >> with >> closed source software and it means you actually own your technology >> yourself, fully and completely. And this is as obvious as it's >> possible >> to get. > > That's not an advantage. Nobody can dive into source code that way. > That's not the way operating systems are built. Oh? What's stopping you from going through the source yourself if you're a programmer? Time? Can't have your cake and eat it too. The point is, you CAN do it. No license or law is stopping you. Only you are stopping you. Stop asking for an example of an advantage, which there are several people who have taken advantage of the very example he pointed out themselves, then dismissing the example given. It's a legitimate response. Deal with it. >> It's a choice made by Microsoft too and it hasn't brought them >> to their knees. > > No. Microsoft sets goals and developers meet the goals or find > employment elsewhere. The company's objective is to make money, not to > pander to overgrown teenagers who are too immature to work effectively > in a cooperative engineering environment. Oooh...So close. You're right in that their goal is to make money. FreeBSD is not out to rule the world, and as a matter of fact the developers probably don't give too doodah's about your personal gripes when you sound like you'd be ungrateful for their efforts anyway. And with a spread out open-source effort that it takes to coordinate the work on an OS like FreeBSD or Linux, I don't know if the ad hominem attack on them (immature overgrown teenagers?) is very accurate. We've seen what cooperative engineering environments with a healthy dose of politics can churn out of MS labs. I'll take the "overgrown teenager"'s work. >> Such as? > > As I recall, the company planned to fix some problems by requiring an > upgrade and I made it clear that an upgrade would not be acceptable to > the customer base, and eventually they backed down. Or they lose money...oddly enough this fits with their primary mission. >> Changes are made to FreeBSD following user interaction. This process >> is >> actually embedded in the FreeBSD development process (man 1 send-pr). > > I'd like to get the bugs fixed first, before considering changes. Everything you have is bug free, eh? Did you read my other post about the API problem with Windows from tombom? >> If you had a camera that was old enough to use film >> stock that is no longer widely made, you'd have to cut your own. > > The film stock used in these cameras is still made today, and is > available at every drugstore. Dude's not swiss cheese only because he keeps missing the point. >> You don't. Why on earth do you say things like this? > > If you think eight years is old for a computer, then clearly you > believe > that computers must be replaced at regular and frequent intervals. Holy crap eight years isn't old in the computer industry? If the system is still working fine for what you use it for, keep it. but a lot has changed performance-wise in eight years. If your users are doing anything that demands processor power and you're running 8 year old hardware just because you object to updating it,...well, we'd be lynched for it. > I don't see any reason to do that. This old machine still runs just > fine; why would I replace it? Then don't. Put your old OS back on and chalk it up to the OS doesn't support the system (is it on the compat list?) >> I have no idea what your problem is ... > > I agree. Now if only someone who actually knew what he was talking > about and were interested in helping out would reply. Wow, you must be a sysadmin with people skills like that... "Hey! Nitwit! Help me with this, wouldja'? You're piece of crap coding doesn't like my old computer...evidently you're too stupid to do it right in the first place!...where are you going?..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:40:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CE816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:40:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8822243D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:40:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DDkYj-0000LL-S4; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:41 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:40:49 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <686409441.20050321194550@wanadoo.fr> <1135566054.20050322102902@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1135566054.20050322102902@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503220840.49778.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc281c8caf86983f0503630cf0c33eaecf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:40:43 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 03:29 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > You have no proof of that unless you were to run the tests that I > > already posted. > > You're wasting my time. Perhaps somebody who actually understands how > FreeBSD works will offer useful assistance sooner or later, although > I'm less and less optimistic. No, Anthony, if you've wasted ours. By now, you could have performed the suggested upgrades; and the proof of whether they made a difference would be known. If you're so sure of yourself, why not perform the upgrades and prove your point? Even if the upgrades didn't fix the problem, the changes may have resulted in additional information for those who have tried to help you. Even if the upgrades were irrelevant to your problems, your system might benefit from them after the problems are fixed. You've spent all this time on argumentation rather than progress. If you are convinced that FreeBSD is flawed and its community is closed-minded; maybe FreeBSD isn't the best OS for your purposes. Perhaps you should return to Windows NT. Perhaps you should try Linux, which has more commercial support. Whatever you decide, please do something constructive. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:45:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C72416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:45:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.black-hole.com (192-34.bhi.com [216.185.192.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B92143D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:45:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hank@blackhole.com) Received: from blackhole.com (mail.black-hole.com [127.0.0.1]) by blackhole.com for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:44:03 -0600 Message-ID: <380-22005322214443437@blackhole.com> X-Priority: 3 From: "Henry Miller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:44:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: chio fails to read barcodes on some tape changers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:45:13 -0000 I have a problem reading bar codes with chio on freebsd 4=2E9, and sony 1u (model lib-81) tape changers=2E The library sees the bar code, but chio doesn't report them for reasons I don't understand=2E I did my testing with what should be an otherwise identical 2u (lib-162) changer=2E (Someone shipped us a 1u without the bar code read the first time, since we had the 2u we didn't expect any differences) This worked fine=2E I've tested 5=2E3, and that works fine as well=2E However upgrading is not an option at this point (it is planned, but not for a year or so)=2E I can make changes to the 4=2E9 system, but I cannot do a full upgrade to 4=2E11=2E =20 -bash-2=2E05b# camcontrol cmd 0:0 -c "B8 12 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 76 00 00" -i 0x76 "i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 =20 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1i1 i1 i1 c36" 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 60 2 128 0 52 0 0 0 52 0 1 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 128 0 1 A05Y0M ### A05Y0M is known to be the bar code on the tape, so the unit itself is reading the bar code, somehow chio is not getting it though=2E -bash-2=2E05b# chio status -v picker 0: voltag: <:0> slot 0: voltag: <:0> slot 1: voltag: <:0> slot 2: voltag: <:0> slot 3: voltag: <:0> slot 4: voltag: <:0> slot 5: voltag: <:0> slot 6: voltag: <:0> slot 7: voltag: <:0> drive 0: voltag: <:0> -bash-2=2E05b# ## install 2u -bash-2=2E05b# camcontrol rescan all Re-scan of bus 0 was successful -bash-2=2E05b# camcontrol cmd 0:0 -c "B8 12 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 76 00 00" -i 0x76 "i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 =20 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1i1 i1 i1 c36" 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 60 2 128 0 52 0 0 0 52 0 1 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 128 0 1 A05Y0Q -bash-2=2E05b# chio status -v picker 0: voltag: <:0> slot 0: voltag: slot 1: voltag: <:0> slot 2: voltag: <:0> slot 3: voltag: <:0> slot 4: voltag: <:0> slot 5: voltag: <:0> slot 6: voltag: <:0> slot 7: voltag: <:0> slot 8: voltag: <:0> slot 9: voltag: <:0> slot 10: voltag: <:0> slot 11: voltag: <:0> slot 12: voltag: <:0> slot 13: voltag: <:0> slot 14: voltag: <:0> slot 15: voltag: <:0> drive 0: voltag: <:0> -bash-2=2E05b# =20 Does anyone know what might be wrong=3F What I could change to make this work=3F I'm looking for an easy fix, though if I must I will write a utility to do the parts of chio we need=2E Should I send this to freebsd-scsi=3F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:49:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9586016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:49:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B0B43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:49:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2MEn2mU127776; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:49:06 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 935D11A16EE; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFCF1A16E9; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:01 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Stijn Hoop In-Reply-To: <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Message-ID: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:49:16 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Stijn Hoop wrote: > Can we please STOP fueling Anthony's drivel? > > --Stijn > > -- > Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. > I have two words for you: Mail Filtering. Use it. It can work wonders on signal to noise ratio. He is not going to quit, ever. Honestly, the whole disk thing reminds me of an experience with FreeBSD and an old gateway solo laptop. I wanted to make better use of it, as it was given to me, and it had windows 98 on it. Now, when I went to install 5.3, the machine would boot off CD, but, completely bork upon trying to get the disk to work. I popped in my 4.x CD, it worked with the disk fine. So, something must have changed. I scoured the list for similar/related issues. And, I found a simple setting change I could make at boot time, for the DMA settings, to get 5.3 installed. Made the same change in the .conf for boottime, and I was off and running. What I did not do, was camp out on the list, make wild random accusations that FreeBSD was a bug infested nightmare, because windows worked, but the newest FreeBSD did not. Windows has a very high tolerance for errors, which it masks.Masking such things is typically by design, so as not to panic the person sitting in front of it. I have seen this time and again. It's not a reason to panic. Ever. Also consider, it shields alot of "sysadmins" from real issues, as opposed to forcing them to deal with them in a real positive way: researching the problem to solution. I think this is one of the core issues Anthony has: having been sheltered from any real issues such as these, he's not equipped. Having worked to get LinuxPPC (when it was new) working with NewWorld Macs, and new powerbooks, there are always solutions, provided you dont act like a reprehensible jackass, who spouts off about their credentials, etc, ad infinitum, as a justification for bowing to their irrational and asinine behavior. The bottom line is, this guy will never go away. He dosent "get it", so to speak. He dosent understand the fundamentals of open source methodology, he does not have a clear, concise, and professional understanding of how development, or any kind of rational sense of how the troubleshooting method works. He has zero clue as to how one can apply isolation logic, and all he wants to do is say, "it worked on NT, now you better make it work for me, or else your product sucks, and you are not a real developer if you don't pander to my every whim". In the end, yes, he is annoying. But, you can take steps to avoid him, his posts, and the replies. Set up mail rules, procmail, whatever you need to do. And, while this may be a hassle, a good set of mail filtering templates is always a good idea, because Anthony is not the first flaming troll to ever be on this, or any mailing list, and he will not be the last. You would do well to accept this, start filtering replies, and bask in the new found signal to noise ratio. I have him blocked, but, not the replies. I think mostly, the list mages are handling him well, and, reading the fallout is far more entertaining. -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:53:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9987F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CFF43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E590133ABB; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17237-01-10; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.245] (unknown [81.168.125.206]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23623134883; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:49:50 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <42403141.2090006@thingy.apana.org.au> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:52:49 +0000 From: David Gerard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk cc: quiet000001@livejournal.com Subject: Vale Cameron Grant (cg@freebsd.org), 8 July 1976 - 20 March 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:03 -0000 For those who haven't heard, FreeBSD committer Cameron Grant died suddenly on Sunday morning. Cameron was well known for his keen mind and personality, but his body didn't work so well. The cause of death has yet to be established, but he spent many years suffering from neurological diseases that left him living on machines. There's a page up at http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html which gives more details and notes of suitable charities to donate to rather than send flowers, etc. Note that the first listed charity is his widow, Kris [though she's on that list only at the insistence of others] - she was working as Cameron's carer, and now that's stopped she has no income for the moment, maybe no house and maybe no way to stay in the UK. So a bit of assistance from these lists full of overpaid geeks would probably be quite helpful right now! I only knew Cam in passing via others, but thought someone should tell the FreeBSD community. (cc'd to Kris) - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B75743D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 738826 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:54:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1344929422.20050322102158@wanadoo.fr> References: <1457754528.20050321194129@wanadoo.fr> <1344929422.20050322102158@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:54:28 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:54:34 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:21 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> There is a third option. Microsoft can simply quite releasing new >> versions of it's established products and go to work creating new >> products that people would want to buy. > > That business model doesn't work, which is why no PC software company > is > using it. Isn't it contradictory to say that there's no reason to release new versions or change what's working then turn around to say that a company can't just not release "updated" versions of their software? > It costs a great deal of money to build completely new products, and > it can take a decade to recover the investment in development, even if > the product does well. Additionally, there is a huge risk of it _not_ > doing well, in which case the losses may be great enough to sink a > company. Overall, it's not nearly as safe or profitable as adding new > bells and whistles to existing products and releasing "upgrades." > Therefore all PC software companies emphasize upgrades, not new > products. So I guess you answered your own question of why new version supplant versions that are "already working just fine". Users like bells, whistles, and eye candy. >> Think of it. Instead of every 2 years yet another tired old bloated >> overengineered version of Windows, they could come out with a brand >> new operating system named something completely different. For >> example, 'doors' > > Even Microsoft can't afford to do that. They were already taking major > risks with Windows NT, but fortunately it worked out. Apple seemed to be able to do it. Twice. With a smaller market, it makes it an even bigger risk for them to alienate their userbase. > Nobody is going to rewrite 250,000 applications for a new operating > system today. Which is a wonderful reason given as to why NT has some braindead things done to it. Legacy support. > That's why practically no one writes new operating > systems. Um...actually, there are several kernels and OS's in use out there. Just because they're not popular for your desktop system doesn't mean they're irrelevant. > That's why Apple couldn't afford to develop a new OS. No, they based much of it on FreeBSD and Mach. But as far as their OS user base was concerned, it wasn't MacOS. It was a completely new OS for the Mac. >> Doors would be a completely 64 bit OS, would NOT run Windows binaries >> and not be backwards compatible at all. It would be written to be >> lickety-split fast. It would be voice-activated, no mouse. >> Applications would have to be recompiled for it. > > That's not going to happen. But if you think it's a good idea, nothing > prevents you from writing such an OS yourself. After all, Linus wrote > his own home-baked kernel. didn't you earlier ask what advantage there is to open source, and say that there isn't much going on with OS's out there in terms of new ones being developed, and now you're telling someone to just go out and write one themselves? >> Because of the lack of all the Windows baggage, Microsoft could use >> all of the good things they have learned writing Windows, to create >> their new OS "Doors" and not have to inherit any of the bad things and >> mistakes of Windows. > > Except that nobody would buy Doors, because everyone wants to use > applications that run only on Windows. I don't know...if you have a spare machine, or a specialized use for it...why else do people jump platforms? >> But of course, you won't ever see this kind of visionary product from >> Microsoft, because they are a company of mediocre programmers. > > No, you aren't likely to see this from Microsoft (or anyone else) > because the company doesn't want to dig its own grave. I think MS could afford a stumble or three (MS Bob, anyone?) Look up "Why I Hate Microsoft". Good read. Google for it. > They've done it in the past: Windows NT being the classic example. NT was a good foundation that was wrapped with compatibility layers to cripple it. >> That is why 50 years from now we will still be running Windows, and >> computers will not look anything whatsover like they do in Star Trek. > > FreeBSD is an implementation of an OS that existed nearly twenty years > before Windows. So, when you will start writing your replacement for > UNIX? If you want one-better UNIX, why not look into implementing Plan 9? EROS was also kind of interesting in theory. My guess would be he isn't writing his own OS because his itch is scratched with FreeBSD already. You're the one still looking for calamine lotion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:55:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B6C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:55:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E785343D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:55:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 560491C000B5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:55:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D17661C000B2 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:55:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322145538858.D17661C000B2@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:55:38 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <772682460.20050322155538@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1589026462.20050322120848@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:55:42 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > OK, well then that increases the chances that it is a driver issue > and reduces the chances that it is a hardware issue. Assuming your > termination is correct, that would increase chances it is a driver > issue even more. That's rather what I've thought all along. > Going to each single disk is what you really need to do now in order > to make a definite finger point to the driver. To each single disk? What do you mean? I tried a build of the kernel again today, to exercise the machine. For quite a while it behaved, but then the SCSI errors popped up again. At least it didn't crash. > I have been working on a Compaq Professional workstation from time > to time to setup a test workstation over the last week. It has a > problem where under heavy use it will corrupt files written and read > from the disk. This system was always a Windows box before, using > a 1GB Seagate disk drive. (don't ask why Compaq would supply a 1GB disk > it is rediculous) Here are some relevant bits of the dmesg > that might interest you: > > . > . > CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 > > Features=0xf9ff > . > . > ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem > 0x40080000-0x40080fff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 > aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs > . > . > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 8191MB (16777215 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1044C) Looks familiar. > Now I can say one thing with certainty with this machine - Compaq has > definitely modded the Adaptec microcode used on the controller here. > Why do I know this? I know it because I tried removing the 2940 card > from this machine and plugging it into another non-Compaq machine, and > the card would not boot the disk in that system. However, a > non-Compaq-labeled 2940 card works fine in that system. Compaq has a terrible reputation for screwing around with standard hardware and firmware. I've always felt that they could still build good servers even without all their home-baked junk, but they apparently felt differently. I like commodity hardware and firmware. It's very hard today to justify custom stuff just to gain perhaps a few scant percent of performance under highly specific conditions. > I had assumed the problem with this system was bad ram. But, I think I > am going to try pulling that Quantum disk out of there and > using a different one. You think something on the drive itself is different? > Then why did you say it was done differently in your earlier post? With reference to what? I note that your description of technical support organizations and mine were independently in agreement. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 14:59:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2669E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EDD43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9EA891C000A3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 74A491C0009E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322145940477.74A491C0009E@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59:40 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <621018420.20050322155940@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1190.209.134.164.137.1111495981.squirrel@209.134.164.137> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1190.209.134.164.137.1111495981.squirrel@209.134.164.137> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:42 -0000 Jerry Bell writes: > You're looking for the reason that your older hardware runs on NT and > doesn't run on FreeBSD. Save any real hardware problem, the reason is > most certainly pure incompatibility between the hardware and the drivers > that are in FreeBSD. No doubt. > When someone goes to write a driver (unless it's provided by the > manufacturer, which I don't think is all that common) for a piece of > hardware, they have a piece of hardware and some docs on how to interface > with it. If the firmware on the board they are using is later than yours, > and is incompatible in some slight way that the driver author took > advantage of, you see this exact problem. The driver authors ask for > people to test the drivers out - but if no one who is willing/ready/able > to test is running an older firmware rev, then the testing doesn't extend > back to your version and it's not found to be a problem until someone like > you comes along and trips over an incompatibility. I've had this very > thing happen for several different older raid cards. In every case, I > fixed the problem by upgrading the firmware. If someone wants me to test a different driver on the machine, I can do that; it's a test machine. I have all the source on the machine and can rebuild stuff. > Alternatively, you can try linux. They tend to support all sorts of crazy > hardware versions. Mandrake Linux wouldn't even install. There's a second problem with this machine: I can't get it to boot from disk. It booted fine under NT, but it won't boot FreeBSD on its own, nor was it willing to boot Mandrake Linux. Strangely, the little boot program that I installed with boot0cfg (I think) does boot up, but when I try to choose the FreeBSD slice to boot into FreeBSD, the machine just stalls. The only way I can boot right now is from diskette. I enter the loader after waiting 10 minutes for the diskette boot to proceed, then I change the current device, unload the kernel, and boot again, and the machine instantly boots from the hard disk and comes up. Now if I could just get the machine to do that on its own ... -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:02:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BCB43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 0723713B8E6; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9566D13B8B0; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MF23vi067764; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:03 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Duo Message-ID: <20050322150203.GD22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Duo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:07 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 08:55:01AM -0600, Duo wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > Can we please STOP fueling Anthony's drivel? > > I have two words for you: Mail Filtering. > > Use it. It can work wonders on signal to noise ratio. He is not going to > quit, ever. Well, I'm of the opinion that adding replies that essentially boil down to debating the same argument over and over again is not particularly helpful. > Honestly, the whole disk thing reminds me of an experience with FreeBSD > and an old gateway solo laptop. [snip long explanation that I totally agree with] > The bottom line is, this guy will never go away. I've tried to make it clear to him that this is all about DOING something instead of arguing. When that did not work, I started filtering him. > In the end, yes, he is annoying. But, you can take steps to avoid him, his > posts, and the replies. Set up mail rules, procmail, whatever you need to > do. And, while this may be a hassle, a good set of mail filtering > templates is always a good idea, because Anthony is not the first flaming > troll to ever be on this, or any mailing list, and he will not be the > last. You would do well to accept this, start filtering replies, and bask > in the new found signal to noise ratio. I totally agree with you. I have Anthony blocked for a time now. I have blocked others in the past. But like I said above, sometimes it's better to just NOT reply for the umpteenth time. He really believes in something; that's his right. Unfortunately it is contrary to what most of the other posters believe in; that's their right. In all of this I have no part to play, nor do I wish to, except for one thing: I do receive lots of mail from all of this. And I'm getting quite tired at reading the same thing over and over. > I have him blocked, but, not the replies. I think mostly, the list mages > are handling him well, and, reading the fallout is far more entertaining. I also see only the replies; sometimes it is amusing. There is however a line where enough is enough. In other words, please take this off-list. This is not about FreeBSD questions anymore, it's about Anthony's personal hardware problem. I doubt it fits the charter. > Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of > suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system > administration. > --Philip Greenspun heh... Anyway, this'll be my last response to this list in a while; else I wouldn't be taking my own advice. And in addition to that, yes I will look at filtering whole threads in the future. I'm a positive thinker however, so I always get sad when I have to take such relatively drastic measures. Maybe people can still come around. Then again, maybe not in this case... Thanks for the reply though. --Stijn -- Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. -- G.K. Chesterton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:19:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FA016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:19:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32C943D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 230441C00096 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:19:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D04B11C0008E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:19:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322151955853.D04B11C0008E@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:19:55 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1574051488.20050322161955@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9c07bb562656cd8cce0cd70dff184b93@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <9c07bb562656cd8cce0cd70dff184b93@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:19:59 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Or it gave warnings that NT didn't. Or it showed problems that NT > didn't. Unless someone can tell me what these messages mean, they are useless to me, warnings or not. > If it worked so well, why not put NT back on the machine and try > running a battery of tests and diagnostics on the machine with NT to > see if it was masking a problem or not? I don't have any T&D software for NT. The smartctl utility looks very interesting, but I don't know to what extent I can trust it. > I don't remember ever losing data while using DOS... I don't recall any specific instances of that, either. > Really? Windows' problems are fixed by the benevolent leader Allchin > in MS? No, but the support organizations of major vendors don't behave like ill-mannered schoolboys when they are asked to show some responsibility for their software. > Or they could cover the other bases...that perhaps BSD is saying > something that NT didn't report. Rest assured, they will not do that. They will cancel the FreeBSD rollout and return to NT. And I couldn't blame them. > Yes, obviously FreeBSD is worthless. Not worthless ... defective. On this particular machine, the SCSI problems are too serious to allow it to be used for any kind of production. I suppose a company could just swap out hardware over and over until it got lucky. Or it could run a different OS. I've been a bit luckier on my production machine, which has brand-new hardware. Still, I'm getting mysterious SATA errors from time to time, one of which crashed the system. As usual, nobody has a clue as to what's causing them, and once again, the Great Satan is the hardware. Even though the only common point between the two machines is that they are running FreeBSD, somehow four separate disk drives and two controllers must be magically failing simultaneously. > I know that I routinely scour the OS source code for problems when one > of our cobbled workstations acts up under Windows. Oh, wait, I was > just reminded that usually it's a network card or video card that goes > bad in old systems that prevents them from working. Or a bad memory > stick, or a processor that overheated. But maybe those errors were > caused by a bad Windows driver? I don't know. Just know that when I > replace the part, the OS must suddenly have the bugs fixed in the > source code too. Tell me the exact part that is failing when I get these SCSI errors. > Really? Here I thought that was called "troubleshooting", especially > if the hardware in question is on the support hardware list and people > on lists with the same hardware aren't having that problem. People with the same hardware ARE having that problem. But nobody ever resolved it for them, either. It was the usual story about how it must be a hardware problem. > Silently resetting without telling you? I'm talking about the quirks that the drivers take into account for different types of hardware. FreeBSD, like many other operating systems, _does_ contain special code to workaround hardware idiosyncrasies, contrary to the implication that only Windows does this and that it is somehow a Bad Thing. > Then what are the errors you're getting again? Well, they go on for pages. I posted them here once (long, long ago). Stuff like this ... SSTAT0[0x5]:(DMADONE|SDONE) SSTAT1[0xa]:(PHASECHG|BUSFREE) SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] SIMODE0[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) SXFRCTL0[0x80]:(DFON) DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x2d]:(FIFOEMP|DFTHRESH|HDONE|FIFOQWDEMP) STACK: 0xe5 0x163 0x193 0x3 SCB count = 60 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 59 Card NEXTQSCB = 59 QINFIFO entries: Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: 13:45 4:17 11:4 0:8 QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 15 14 1 8 9 2 10 6 3 12 7 5 Sequencer SCB Info: 0 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x8] 1 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 2 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 3 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 4 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x11] 5 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 6 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 7 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 8 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 9 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 10 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 11 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x4] 12 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 13 SCB_CONTROL[0x64]:(DISCONNECTED|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0x2d] 14 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] 15 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Pending list: 45 SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] 4 SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] 17 SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] 8 SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] SCB_LUN[0x0] Kernel Free SCB list: 16 47 31 49 5 35 15 39 12 25 38 26 3 48 7 34 43 57 36 11 28 30 9 42 46 29 58 56 23 24 32 14 40 13 2 6 27 1 0 20 10 33 41 44 19 37 18 22 21 55 54 53 52 51 50 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x2d - timed out sg[0] - Addr 0xce1fc40 : Length 4 (pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB (pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent ahc0: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning. (pass0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 24b ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > Or you find someone with the same hardware setup and install the OS to > see if it's reproducible. Others have already encountered this error, on the same hardware, as I recall from my newsgroup and Web searches on the subject. In any case, finding an identical machine today would be problematic. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:25:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC4A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:25:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1306443D68 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:25:17 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=J7mK0q9k=SA=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MFPGId045113 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200503221525.j2MFPF91045100@asarian-host.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:25:15 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: FOzrxfGWmygU1Um6Tti8Y96LdQx8X0ttwpxbT2EceF6uDFJXAfTOtGBQn8u+VDkmx0GJdS+xCwTq43VPHhk2GQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Kris Kennaway'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20050322142151.GA20041@xor.obsecurity.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQkA43DFqW1BleBN9AQFWjwf+NRpcH+Lx9Z/3zEKGY2BDdjGQzQiRDg7a vJKEQvQTAjWUrF8qndDaDgkTgut8jOOqNRqAB51Yiz1WOjVHt0QWj6D0R/Bv/OhI gWhXiMw3qGK+/2GM9an34hpY98ybUV7oyvfC4Of3DBHvzDcSDBv1QMLVKs6Zms9P j8ldslAtD8UtdPqoHEy1eFh4RijrT5ZajCmCV9ZCoHf/nIB+oNEs5BlpZW1twHm5 zm0j4G5mJ1IjWlvDhpjuovwHqPG6XMmZ8+L2gA9uwlshf0wipAv+AEQ8ZJTerM/A q6ajz0bogqy1kzU+g16kdNOmbisbe1itOdC1jNqBmyWdS/nQH9qFQg== =aCiU cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:25:18 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@obsecurity.org] > Sent: dinsdag 22 maart 2005 15:22 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:31:25AM +0000, Mark wrote: > > > > > cd /usr/local/lib; if test -f libz.so.1.2.2; then rm -f > > > > libz.so libz.so.1; > > > > ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so; ln -s libz.so.1.2.2 libz.so.1; > > > So, to reiterate, where is the new shared library, libz.so? > > You were looking in /usr/lib, not /usr/local/lib. No, honestly, I was looking in /usr/ as a whole: asarian-host: {root} % find /usr/ -name "libz.*" | xargs ls -la -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 61898 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so -> libz.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 52108 Mar 7 2004 /usr/lib/libz.so.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 74486 Mar 21 21:01 /usr/local/lib/libz.a It's not there. Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:30:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout15.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05E43D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com) Received: from aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050322153052.PRHQ12099.mta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:52 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.107.94.210]) by aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050322153052.IQVS5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@localhost.localdomain>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:52 +0000 From: Antony T Curtis To: David Gerard In-Reply-To: <42403141.2090006@thingy.apana.org.au> References: <42403141.2090006@thingy.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:50 +0000 Message-Id: <1111505450.2588.4.camel@pcgem.xiphis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: quiet000001@livejournal.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vale Cameron Grant (cg@freebsd.org), 8 July 1976 - 20 March 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:30:56 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 14:52 +0000, David Gerard wrote: > For those who haven't heard, FreeBSD committer Cameron Grant > died suddenly on Sunday morning. >From someone who has only met Cameron once and a few limited email exchanges, this is a great loss to the FreeBSD community, and to the world as he is a man with a keen mind and a big heart. My thoughts go out to Kris who I hope gets every help she needs to get through this most difficult time. -- Antony T Curtis, BSc. UNIX, Linux, *BSD, Networking antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com C++, J2EE, Perl, MySQL, Apache IT Consultancy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:35:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46B816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:35:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645FB43D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:35:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MFZIgA061692 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:35:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:34:46 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:34:46 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD Subject: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:35:20 -0000 After I start X, I need to switch to a virtual console and log in as root so that I can issue kbdcontrol -r fast. Is there a place I can set this so I don't have to do that anymore? I've looked at the man pages for a few settings, but I can't seem to find something that specifically addresses keyboard repeat rate. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:37:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41EB16A4D0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:37:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E95D43D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 740C71C000A4 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:37:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D44F1C0008B for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:37:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322153749316.4D44F1C0008B@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:37:48 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7310064775.20050322163748@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:37:51 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Depends on the problem. Windows 98 needed more reboots than NT did on > the same hardware. By your comparison they should be the same in > reliability and performance, no? No, by my comparison they should experience the same hardware errors (or absence thereof). > But you didn't replace the oil. You replaced the engine and > transmission. The OS is a little more than "just changing the oil" in > car analogies. All the more reason to suspect the OS. > Actually I think he suggested that NT was hiding the problem. Fine. What exactly _is_ the problem? FreeBSD is certainly spewing no end of output to the console about it, but nobody seems to know what it means. > Is anyone on this list running a twenty year old version of UNIX on > their system? Most are running something of at least the 4.x line of > FreeBSD, I thought... Unless 4.x was a total rewrite from scratch with a design completely different from that of UNIX, it's more than twenty years old. > You tried it, you didn't like it, reinstall NT and see if diagnostic > software turns anything up and if not then see if the hardware > continues to run hunky-dory for the next year or so without failing. > No harm, no foul. I didn't say I didn't like it, I said that it has trouble dealing with my SCSI disks. > Usually the first one I've heard is to check the compatibility list, > because that's hardware that it's been tested on. Your hardware is on > the list? Yes. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:39:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A266516A4D6 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:39:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tdmmsws2.travelers.com (tdmmsws2.travelers.com [204.89.226.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AC543D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:39:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: 966F4AF3-ED4F-4167-B589-DAFABE66A6FA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:39:00 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535EF@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Keyboard question... Thread-Index: AcUu9US5VNS2AVmjSBqlyPOi8vjoow== From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2005 15:39:03.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[4666E1E0:01C52EF5] X-WSS-ID: 6E5EE3AE2MO573526-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Keyboard question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:39:19 -0000 Hello all! So, I've run into an interesting snag that I just can't seem to figure out. I've gotten 5.3 up and running and installed Xorg and KDE. I spent some time in KDE playing around and when I came out by "logging out" it dropped me to the command prompt but I couldn't type anything. I've since rebooted and can't login because it won't allow me to type. If I boot into single user mode I can type just fine. Any thoughts, suggestions, or ideas=3F I've searched the handbook and =46AQs, and I tried searching this list but couldn't find anything. Thanks for any help Jon Bomgardner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained= = herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the = intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, = copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is = STRICTLY PROHIBITED. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:40:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A2116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:40:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75D843D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:40:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2MFe64K022421; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:06 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <20050322154005.GP5243@dan.emsphone.com> References: <423EFE02.3050307@netfence.it> <20050321171510.GE5243@dan.emsphone.com> <423F04D0.1090605@netfence.it> <20050321173924.GF5243@dan.emsphone.com> <423F374D.3040400@netfence.it> <20050321212024.GJ5243@dan.emsphone.com> <423FE8B9.20202@netfence.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423FE8B9.20202@netfence.it> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:40:07 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 22), Andrea Venturoli said: > Dan Nelson wrote: > >In the last episode (Mar 21), Andrea Venturoli said: > >>Dan Nelson wrote: > > I'm reverting to the mailing list, since this is possibly getting > interesting for other people too. > > >>>The change was also committed to the RELENG_5_3 branch after 5.3 > >>>was released, so if you're tracking 5.3-stable, you should be able > >>>to just cd into /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt and run "make ; > >>>make install". > >> > >>Nope. I'm still on 5.3p5 (I usually stuck to releases) and it does > >>not work. I'll just wait for 5.4; in the meanwhile I'll have to > >>resort from time to time to that old Debian machine :) > > And I'm doing this by means of the following lines in my supfile: > > >*default host=cvsup.it.FreeBSD.org > >*default base=/usr/local/netfence/etc/cvsup > >*default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_3 > > src-all > > Still, if I follow your suggestion, I get an error: > > >/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp-demangle.c:86:20: config.h: No such file or directory It looks like gcc and friends need to be built as one unit; config.h gets built by the cc_tools directory. Try doing your build from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc , and do the regular "make depend ; make ; make install" series. The official way to source-upgrade from any version of FreeBSD to another is to do a full buildworld/ buildkernel/ installkernel/ installworld series (even p# releases, since there may be security fixes in userland binaries), so trying to build single binaries after the fact isn't guaranteed to be easy (or work). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:49:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775B016A50C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:49:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B5243D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC7561C000B1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:49:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 84AE11C0008A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:49:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322154925543.84AE11C0008A@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:49:24 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:49:27 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > And you ran into a snag that you can't work through. Yes, at least not with the time I have available. > Most people if they were doing this on a lark would either replace the > hardware or try a different distro. There's only one "distro" of FreeBSD. Replacing the hardware defeats the purpose of making good use of existing hardware that still runs perfectly. > When I ran into that error before, I remember seeing another person > post to a list saying that NT doesn't report the reset error. Linux > did. Maybe this is what you're running into? Well, if NT didn't report the error, and I never lost the data, how do I get FreeBSD to stop reporting the error? It's more complex than that, though, since FreeBSD also stalls sometimes when these events occur, and sometimes there's a panic. > But...didn't you bring that up? Not that I remember. I feel no compulsion to constantly upgrade hardware and software. > And the design of the OS may be 20 years old, but the OS most people > are using isn't. So? > Is the hardware on the compatibility list? What is it? An AIC7880 SCSI controller. > If this is your gripe, then go back or work with people (without > baiting them) to get it looked at. If your production server isn't > unsupported hardware, people may try to help you. If this isn't what > you want to pursue as an avenue, then install something else. My > impression is that you installed it, it had some errors, and after > people said they've had this happen with bad hardware ... Anything can happen with bad hardware. That doesn't mean that every error you see is bad hardware. When the processor failed on my old server, I got segment violations in all sorts of programs. Does this mean that if I get a segment violation on the new server, I should replace all the hardware--since I've seen segment violations before when a a processor fails? > ... you simply refuse to believe the possibility that something could > have been wrong but NT didn't *TELL* you about it, and then want to > launch into an attack on the OS in a list where people are running > FreeBSD quite happily on a wide range of hardware. If no data corruption occurred, there was nothing wrong. If NT doesn't have to tell me about it, neither does FreeBSD. But nobody actually knows what is wrong. Nobody has any clue. That's the problem. Lots of people are willing to wildly speculate on this or that hardware problem in order to create the impression that they know what they are talking about, but careful scrutiny of what they say reveals that they are totally ignorant of the real problem. They have no idea but cannot bring themselves to say so. And their idea of troubleshooting is to replace hardware forever because they don't know what the software is doing. > The stories just don't jive. You're implying it doesn't work and is > crap because all your hardware isn't working with it. This list is > populated by people that have worked out problems and configuration > errors and are running it without trouble. On the same hardware? > Something just intuitively tells me that at this point you're more > concerned with pissing people off to make a point. No, although I do get tired of talking to people who sound like they're still in grade school. I'm accustomed to working with professionals, and professionals address the problem, they don't shoot the messenger. > Probably the best thing for you to try is Linux Knoppix on your server, > see if it boots and sees errors. I suppose I may be forced to try something else; it doesn't look like I'm ever going to get any help with FreeBSD. The problem is, most open-source communities are populated by the same sort of adolescent mentalities; all they want to do is defend their beloved favorite hardware and software and attack anyone who disagrees with them. It's all one big weekend hobby to them, or one sacred religion, or both--but it's certainly not professional IT. That's why open-source is never likely to replace proprietary software ... nobody in the open-source community is willing to grow up. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEA116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51009.mail.yahoo.com (web51009.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FDC143D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 20930 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 15:53:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: firefox after gnome_update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:04 -0000 Hi, Maybe someone has already address this, but there seems to be a problem about firefox failed to build after updating to the latest gnome. I upgraded the freetype2 by portupgrade and the problem seems to be gone. Cheers, Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:53:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFFA16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A49843D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 744125 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:53:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1574051488.20050322161955@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <9c07bb562656cd8cce0cd70dff184b93@chrononomicon.com> <1574051488.20050322161955@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1bcc63264925d9b965671502cd627f45@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:53:07 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:53:19 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Or it gave warnings that NT didn't. Or it showed problems that NT >> didn't. > > Unless someone can tell me what these messages mean, they are useless > to > me, warnings or not. > >> If it worked so well, why not put NT back on the machine and try >> running a battery of tests and diagnostics on the machine with NT to >> see if it was masking a problem or not? > > I don't have any T&D software for NT. Then you could purchase some or look to see if there's shareware to run the disks through their paces. Or you can look for a boot disk from the drive or controller manufacturer. They often have test utilities available for download. Point is you're having trouble with FBSD and kept pining about NT working better, so the best solution (especially after the number of people you've insulted here) would be to go back to that software and see if everything is indeed copasetic under that OS with diagnostic software. You've insulted your way into the killfiles of several people here on the list so they are ignoring you...seems like Ted is the only one trying other suggestions for you at this point. > The smartctl utility looks very interesting, but I don't know to what > extent I can trust it. Um...little secret...you can't trust software 100% to diagnose problems. Just like memory testers. Just because software memory tester says it's okay, doesn't mean it's okay. If it finds a problem, you probably have a problem. If it says it's fine, it means you may have a problem. It's just one tool. If you want something you can trust, it costs several thousand dollars for specialized diag equipment. Be my guest :-) Usually for most people it's cheaper to just narrow down the part having problems and replace it. >> I don't remember ever losing data while using DOS... > > I don't recall any specific instances of that, either. Well, with that track record, who needs FreeBSD OR Windows?? :-) >> Really? Windows' problems are fixed by the benevolent leader Allchin >> in MS? > > No, but the support organizations of major vendors don't behave like > ill-mannered schoolboys when they are asked to show some responsibility > for their software. I think you could also look back at some of your own posts and see that you're not entirely innocent in the matter. Several of your posts have been inflammatory. None of the people on this list are obligated to help anyone. In general they ask for some gratitude and respect and in return give advice and pointers. On top of that, none of them forced you to use FreeBSD. If it doesn't work, try a different version or a different OS. They have no "responsibility" to their software on your hardware when you weren't forced to use it in the first place. >> Or they could cover the other bases...that perhaps BSD is saying >> something that NT didn't report. > > Rest assured, they will not do that. They will cancel the FreeBSD > rollout and return to NT. And I couldn't blame them. I don't think that was the context I was stating that in. I was giving the possibility that NT was hiding the error while FreeBSD was informing you of a potential problem. If people testing for a rollout want to roll back or go to another platform, that's their business...like I've said before the FreeBSD team isn't out to rule the world, they're just working on an OS. >> Yes, obviously FreeBSD is worthless. > > Not worthless ... defective. On this particular machine, the SCSI > problems are too serious to allow it to be used for any kind of > production. I suppose a company could just swap out hardware over and > over until it got lucky. Or it could run a different OS. Well, if it's similar to the NT idea I proposed, you could comment out the portion of the driver that reports the error, and voila'! Fixed. > I've been a bit luckier on my production machine, which has brand-new > hardware. Still, I'm getting mysterious SATA errors from time to time, > one of which crashed the system. Sata is *relatively* speaking, new. And I've seen other posts about questions with SATA controllers and chipsets and support. It's being fleshed out so I'm not surprised there's problems with some. Is the SATA controller on the compat list for 5.3? > As usual, nobody has a clue as to > what's causing them, and once again, the Great Satan is the hardware. If it's new or non-tested, I'm not surprised. > Even though the only common point between the two machines is that they > are running FreeBSD, somehow four separate disk drives and two > controllers must be magically failing simultaneously. Only thing in common? Despite one being "near new" and the other being "eight years old"? One cutting edge, one legacy, if only there were a middle ground where FreeBSD seemed to be comfortable running without errors...hmmm..... >> I know that I routinely scour the OS source code for problems when one >> of our cobbled workstations acts up under Windows. Oh, wait, I was >> just reminded that usually it's a network card or video card that goes >> bad in old systems that prevents them from working. Or a bad memory >> stick, or a processor that overheated. But maybe those errors were >> caused by a bad Windows driver? I don't know. Just know that when I >> replace the part, the OS must suddenly have the bugs fixed in the >> source code too. > > Tell me the exact part that is failing when I get these SCSI errors. Check the restarter coil. It's always troublesome in my Apple systems. >> Really? Here I thought that was called "troubleshooting", especially >> if the hardware in question is on the support hardware list and people >> on lists with the same hardware aren't having that problem. > > People with the same hardware ARE having that problem. But nobody ever > resolved it for them, either. It was the usual story about how it must > be a hardware problem. So you've narrowed it down to more likely being the software. Is it possible that there was another reason they didn't pursue fixing that particular make and model of controller's driver? >> Silently resetting without telling you? > > I'm talking about the quirks that the drivers take into account for > different types of hardware. FreeBSD, like many other operating > systems, _does_ contain special code to workaround hardware > idiosyncrasies, contrary to the implication that only Windows does this > and that it is somehow a Bad Thing. Only time I remember saying that to anyone was with working about *software* idiosyncrasies. How often do FBSD/Linux bend over backwards because someone's version of Open Office stopped running after an update? I don't actually remember anyone saying workarounds for hardware bugs being A Bad Thing. But it's probably happened. >> Or you find someone with the same hardware setup and install the OS to >> see if it's reproducible. > > Others have already encountered this error, on the same hardware, as I > recall from my newsgroup and Web searches on the subject. > > In any case, finding an identical machine today would be problematic. Which would also strengthen the argument to let it go if it were very old hardware and developers can't even *get* the hardware to test with. If you feel that strongly, contact the devel team and ask *nicely* for someone to try looking at it and send them your computer... For most people, the effort isn't worth it; they'd get a newer server with hardware specifically on the compat list. But to each their own. Can you try the liveboot CD idea with Linux? Maybe you'd be happier with that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:54:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3FD16A509 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:54:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (mail.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B8C43D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:54:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.44 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1DDliI-0005tG-CR by authid for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.9i (2005-03-13) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:54:42 -0000 Hello dudes, I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, =66rom home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!! All pointers will be appreciated. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+ I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up. -- Biff Barf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:00:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37BA16A4D0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D8E43D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:00:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 744795 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:00:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <7310064775.20050322163748@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <7310064775.20050322163748@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6ec0c1f6a3e49f41d839a641d6bd5046@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:00:11 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:00:30 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Depends on the problem. Windows 98 needed more reboots than NT did on >> the same hardware. By your comparison they should be the same in >> reliability and performance, no? > > No, by my comparison they should experience the same hardware errors > (or > absence thereof). Not if one of them suppresses errors (or crashes) instead. >> Actually I think he suggested that NT was hiding the problem. > > Fine. What exactly _is_ the problem? FreeBSD is certainly spewing no > end of output to the console about it, but nobody seems to know what it > means. *I*'m not a developer. I'm just a FreeBSD user who keeps trying to get you to see that insulting people on the list is *definitely* not going to help your cause, and that maybe there are other things to consider, despite the off-list emails I've gotten saying you're a hopeless cause who at this point is just trolling and baiting people. The best advice I gave was trying a liveboot CD or some other distro, or alternatively commenting out the code that spews the error so you can ignore the error again so it was like things were with NT, or contact the devel team and ask about the offending code there. >> Is anyone on this list running a twenty year old version of UNIX on >> their system? Most are running something of at least the 4.x line of >> FreeBSD, I thought... > > Unless 4.x was a total rewrite from scratch with a design completely > different from that of UNIX, it's more than twenty years old. Holy crap no wonder your SATA controller doesn't work. >> You tried it, you didn't like it, reinstall NT and see if diagnostic >> software turns anything up and if not then see if the hardware >> continues to run hunky-dory for the next year or so without failing. >> No harm, no foul. > > I didn't say I didn't like it, I said that it has trouble dealing with > my SCSI disks. *sigh* Is there any way for you to disable the onboard SCSI and use a newer controller, maybe two same-brand same-model drives and see if that fixes your problem? >> Usually the first one I've heard is to check the compatibility list, >> because that's hardware that it's been tested on. Your hardware is on >> the list? > > Yes. Now, you've said the chipset...is it the actual hardware you have (HP you said?), where the system's been tested with any changes that company may have made to the firmware? Does anyone know of a way for Anthony to have a trace run of the driver to see where this error is being spit out and why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:03:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1789C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81005.mail.yahoo.com (web81005.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67C2643D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050322160306.1675.qmail@web81005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.90.100.209] by web81005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:03:06 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:08 -0000 Hello All, I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release, and Samba 3. Thank you, JP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:03:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE9816A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from incubus.nodes.net.ad-flow.com (INCUBUS.NODES.NET.EXOCOMM.NET [66.59.162.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5B743D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@danielquinn.org) Received: from douglas ([192.168.3.232])j2MG2jF16049 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:45 GMT Exocomm-Delivery-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:02:45 GMT Exocomm-URL: www.exocomm.com From: daniel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:03:12 -0000 On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. i'd suggest vnc: http://www.realvnc.com/ http://www.tightvnc.com/ you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find it's faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you need is X running and: $ vncviewer security note: vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a knocking daemon. -- i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. - thomas Jefferson, 1816 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:05:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:05:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF743D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:05:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B9591C00081 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:05:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E95301C00093 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:05:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322160548955.E95301C00093@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:05:48 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7c2cf9b1abb85ee648b5764f9c7915f4@chrononomicon.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <7c2cf9b1abb85ee648b5764f9c7915f4@chrononomicon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:05:51 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Instead of a five year old version of Windows? :-) Why should it matter? > Because dumb terminals are just smart serial modems? Serial modems are largely obsolete, too. And I haven't seen too many modems that behave like VT100 terminals. > Because those specs haven't been obsoleted? Who is using VT100s today? Is anyone interconnecting FreeBSD and GECOS? There's still a field in /etc/passwd records for that purpose. > Um...if the hardware wasn't working with FreeBSD, why did you install > it, or try getting people to support it now that it's so old that most > people aren't running it and you want a special effort devoted to > getting it to work? I had no way of knowing whether it would work without installing FreeBSD. It ran fine with Windows NT, and I assumed that FreeBSD could at least match that. > No one is stopping you from doing the work yourself. Nobody is stopping me from building my own metropolis, either, but that doesn't mean that it's a viable option. > They're not out to please just you. They don't seem to be out to please anyone, which means that they'll be spending most of their time in the secret treehouse club, instead of out in the big scary world of real IT. > When they're obligated to do so, it's a job, not a hobby. They're not > out to take over the business world. They're scratching an itch, or > working for a principal or philosophy...try listening to Stallman's > speeches on what Open Source means. So open source is just a fad. A hobby. > Out of curiosity...what changes? I persuaded them to fix some things with patches instead of a new release, or something like that--I don't remember the specifics. > And did they give you credit? No, but I never cared about credit. My objective was to make sure that people didn't stop using NT because of a stupid policy decision on the part of Microsoft. > Why did you replace the OS and stress out when it didn't fit your bill > of needs? I'm not stressed by it, so much as I'm amazed by the attitudes I'm encountering. There's a big gulf between projects like FreeBSD and real-world IT, apparently. > Wow...take this much further and I'd suggest you find someone on the > list that wants to really really prove you wrong you could arrange to > have that person take the hardware and run the diagnostics for your and > ship it back to you afterwards with their findings... I'm not going to take the hardware apart. First I want someone to tell me what the error messages in FreeBSD mean. > Oddly enough, for us the hardware solution is correct about 95% of the > time after going through the list of things the "user didn't do" with > the configuration. For a ploy it sure tends to be accurate. Given the character of the user community (if my intuition is correct), that wouldn't surprise me, but that's not the way it works in the larger world of IT. > If it's usually what actually had caused the problem, you're damned > right they're going to suggest that be checked. You know it's almost certainly not the problem, but it lets you shelve the issue so that it doesn't come up on your status reports for a week or more. > Why devote the man-hours to debugging and reconfiguring if it's a > cable that worked loose? It's almost never a cable that has worked loose. Checking the cables is almost invariably just a way to kill time. > See, this is part of what's supposed to be natural selection in > business. If you treat a customer like crap, you lose customers, and > eventually go out of business, unless you're a monopoly. Virtually all computer companies are doing this right now, today, and they aren't all monopolies. > If what you're suggesting were true and this system works, then they > would go away. It _is_ true; that's how it is done. They don't go away any more than FreeBSD goes away with no support at all. > You're saying as a blanket statement that tech support is terrible. It is, as a general rule. > Well, then do something about it. I'm not managing these companies. > If the market is truly that bad and the customer is truly as competent > as you're giving them credit for then it should be no problem at all > for you to start a tech support company that can beat the pants off > everyone else. You can't make money in honest technical support, especially as a third party. > And replying like that will surely be conducive to getting other people > to suggest things to help you. I have no illusions about there being wizards out there who actually know what they are doing. If they were there, they would have spoken. I lose nothing by ignoring the kiddies. I keep hoping, but I'm really less and less optimistic. > Or you just do what people suggested then post the results instead of > just saying that their suggestion won't work because you're certain > what the problem is and demand satisfaction with your solution. As I said, I want to know what the problem is. What is FreeBSD reporting? What do all the messages mean, EXACTLY? Unless and until someone can tell me that, I'm not going to waste my time indulging the armchair experts with their roll-the-dice support philosophies. > And when people are saying that it's more likely X but you insist it's Y > and you don't want to take the time to do Y because there are others > who should be more competent with it, what are you going to do to > compensate them if they drop everything to do Y and find out it wasn't, > in fact, their fault? Anything? Who's going to pay me for the time I lose indulging them? The fact is, they aren't any more competent than I am. It's obvious from the suggestions they come up with. Not a single analysis of the messages I've posted thus far--because nobody has any idea what they mean. But nobody wants to sound stupid, so they suggest things like changing hardware, or doing whatever it is that they feel they can explain without making embarrassing mistakes. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily correlate with the real source of the problem. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:06:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294D116A4D1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:06:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8467043D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:06:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so1522322wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:06:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oCwfRYP3iZ+zhvhfs75VQwl1LAIEvsE9LSkNSSOWdNvntpWUBgYsr6yRU4tSMcJi6smVrQV5D4L49dmhncjcyzYgKl0zMuQoA8tFk1bqOeQOzK1W1Mc5TEIYOUdku97j4Myx4haokQlVTi4zw48hjX0cO2NqVSzTVsr0pmaSGjQ= Received: by 10.54.35.69 with SMTP id i69mr5128597wri; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:06:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:06:18 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:06:20 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello dudes, > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!! > > All pointers will be appreciated. > > -Wash > I assume you have allowed (on the XP box) remote desktop connections (system properties) and the XP firewall is turned off. I've used rdesktop with win2000 systems just fine, so I'm guessing it's a setting on the XP box. If you can't get that to work, you can always try VNC. GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:08:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEDB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3439543D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1435803rng for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:08:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RgCyy/8j3Wbh1S1nHuj05U++HabR4a+nsKSE9cT2EdUzelNfRjczwNktsgkniecYfxCBor8KeqD3bxaAfgp4mMgG5ER+Lt8q1FiDcXJDNssEpfpMnJ0m1Y0+w1P47zlmGdXFsvzVj9C1rtZCkf8dUjhZzR94KE6TzwRogcbp668= Received: by 10.38.76.23 with SMTP id y23mr2802724rna; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:08:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:08:34 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: daniel In-Reply-To: <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:35 -0000 VNC works very well for me, good suggestion! --Nick On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel wrote: > On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, > > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > i'd suggest vnc: > http://www.realvnc.com/ > http://www.tightvnc.com/ > > you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find it's > faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you need is X running > and: > > $ vncviewer > > security note: > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any ports you > open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a knocking > daemon. > > -- > i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied > corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of > strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. > - thomas Jefferson, 1816 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:08:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7824616A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A3643D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5204B1C000A5 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:08:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 32B451C000B2 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:08:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322160854207.32B451C000B2@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:08:53 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <475796164.20050322170853@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <424028D5.4050008@makeworld.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <1111490108.751.252.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> <424028D5.4050008@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:08:55 -0000 Chris writes: > ... and as of June 2005, MS retires 2000 - at least thats the projected > date. So this hardware is still supported today. I suspect it may still be on the HCL afterwards, too. > In addition, if you went back to NT - you would also know you are on > your own being that MS stopped support about a year ago. You're overlooking a key point: In eight years of running Windows NT, I never _needed_ any support. I never once put in a call to Microsoft technical support. > It's really very simple. Get 2 SCSI drives that are alike, that will > most likely halt your issies. SCSI drives are $300 each, and drives compatible with this controller and connectors are scarce. The last time I checked, about a year or two ago, there was only one drive left on the market that was compatible. All the others required different connectors. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:12:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B5016A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:12:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC82343D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:11:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MGBXj4021450; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:11:35 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Duo In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:11:33 +0000 Message-Id: <1111507893.751.298.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: old scsi adapters and the benefits of open source [was: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:12:21 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 08:55 -0600, Duo wrote: > > Honestly, the whole disk thing reminds me of an experience with FreeBSD > and an old gateway solo laptop. [...] I acquired an old Initio SCSI card (9100) around the time of FreeBSD 4.5. A driver was available from the manufacturer's website for FreeBSD 4.x, so I downloaded this, edited the kernel sources, popped the right bits into the right places in the source tree and it compiled. Great. But of course this was an unmaintained driver. As new releases of FreeBSD 4.x came out, naturally it stopped compiling. However, I was able to hack the kernel sources to get it to build all the way up to somewhere around 4.8 or 4.9. This was great, because it gave me a couple of years of extra life for a very old component. And of course, in the binary-only world of closed-source software this wasn't an option at all and compatibility was not available with new Windows versions. To quote from the Initio website: ...discontinued products which do not have Windows 2000 or WinXP support. This includes the INI-6100/6102, INI-9100, and INI-9100W adapters. [http://www.initio.com/support/index-download.htm] So this card simply could not be used with up to date versions of Windows. In the end, the hacking became more and more elaborate and therefore too much trouble, and I just relegated the card to the pile of no-longer-compatible hardware all computer engineers have in their attic. All hardware has an end-of-life, and this has reached it for me. But I _could_ have kept on going and could still be using it in the latest releases. It's up to me, and that's a fantastic freedom that only exists with open source software. By contrast, I maintain a networked Windows machine that controls plasma cutting systems for a manufacturing business. It uses a serial port connection to send cutting patterns to the plasma controller. The serial port communications software was custom-written and runs only on versions of DOS that shipped with Windows up to and including 98. It is specifically incompatible with Win ME and all the NT family including XP and 2000/2003. I don't have access to the source code either of the custom application or any currently maintained version of Windows (of course), so no hacked upgrades are possible and we have to run Win 98 - which is desperately horrible and insecure in a networked environment. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:16:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3398416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:16:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D66D43D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:16:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1646918wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:content-type:thread-index:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:message-id; b=Yong176cPOMYhXGr9xbhQzdmvICtCy0S14jnwTeBzUPEdHBAsd6FkAaizwe+Aq26KsfpQTRTgv+c9XDtGsB6doigob8cUcml19snj3dulzj7d4rxqXLHtmH+lRCghl25wi29PYGVNS0rjAoZjbNq9nUkZG1cquDEQA5iP/9D2NI= Received: by 10.54.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr4324751wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.160.126]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 8sm451169wrl.2005.03.22.08.16.17; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:16:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Odhiambo Washington'" , Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:46:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C52F28.8FC9EDE0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1 Thread-Index: AcUu97ZJ997itAqYQwGVRSUt0bXBGwAAo+yg In-Reply-To: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <424044d3.7fa3decd.08b1.ffff8bc6@mx.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:16:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C52F28.8FC9EDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:25 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely > > Hello dudes, > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!! > > All pointers will be appreciated. What you need is called a VNC. Have a look at TightVNC. It's a wonderful application. http://www.tightvnc.org There is also a FreeBSD port. Have a look at the ports collection. Regards S. 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V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <42404529.381e2d59.300b.ffff8fd4@mx.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:17:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C52F28.C39B7670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nick Pavlica > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:39 > To: daniel > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely > > VNC works very well for me, good suggestion! > > --Nick > > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel > wrote: > > On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > > > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > > > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > > > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like > krdesktop, > > > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > > > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > > > i'd suggest vnc: > > http://www.realvnc.com/ > > http://www.tightvnc.com/ > > > > you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find > it's > > faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you need is X > running > > and: > > > > $ vncviewer > > > > security note: > > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any > ports you > > open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a > knocking > > daemon. > > > > -- > > i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied > > corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial > of > > strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. > > - thomas Jefferson, 1816 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Please do not Top Post. 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(127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 16:21:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4240460F.4070502@winters.cc> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:21:35 -0500 From: Rob Winters User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remington References: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> <1111456654.1436.0.camel@baby> In-Reply-To: <1111456654.1436.0.camel@baby> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems with Dell Inspiron 2600s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:21:42 -0000 Remington wrote: > change the device driver to vesa, see if it still crashes Changed "I810" to "vesa": old: >(EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth. >(==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear >(II) UnloadModule: "i810" >(II) UnloadModule: "ddc" >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" >(II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a >(II) UnloadModule: "vbe" >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a >(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > >Fatal server error: >no screens found new: > (II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 125 64KB banks (8000kB) > (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes > (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" > (II) UnloadModule: "ddc" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > (II) UnloadModule: "int10" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > (II) UnloadModule: "vbe" > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found /// Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:22:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CC916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:22:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4E243D5D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:22:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MGMX73071046 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:22:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:22:16 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:22:16 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD Subject: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:22:35 -0000 I've done a lot of snooping around Google to figure this out. I've come to the conclusion that PHP just plain sucks ;c) I am fairly consistently getting bus errors in Apache when I use PHP (or at least, I'm fairly sure it is due to PHP). Entries like: ... [notice] child pid 70121 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) Or if I run Apache in stand-alone mode, I will often simply get: Bus Error and it exits immediately. I am running php4-4.3.10_2 and apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 on FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE (Generic kernel). Is this something that will clear up if I move to FreeBSD 5.3? Or is there some other known work-around? I ask because I have a 5.3 box here at home that does not seem to be exhibiting this behavior. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:25:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667916A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2185143D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DDmCR-0006Zd-Ek; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:25:47 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:55 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503221025.55911.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc3d23bb2cf3238568016a3e1d191a2af2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: daniel Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:50 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 10:02 am, daniel wrote: > On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer > > from home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that > > will enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like > > krdesktop, from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and > > provide me access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > i'd suggest vnc: > http://www.realvnc.com/ > http://www.tightvnc.com/ > > you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i > find it's faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you > need is X running and: > > $ vncviewer > > security note: > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even > better, try a knocking daemon. One of the advantages of running the tightvnc server is that it also runs a java web server so that you can access the tightvnc server from an internet browser without the use of a tightvnc client. The port number equals 5800 plus the windown number. For example, to access window 1 at 192.168.0.2, to go: http://192.168.0.2:5801 Caveat: I've only tested this from Win2K to FreeBSD, not the other way around. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:28:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F92343D5C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:28:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1443533rng for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:28:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GeqgT6iE+EzGXhCOHScJtO7UewpDhEGBEHAaOvyuUFRYE5ZLxbJtSi1qW7wLzdPHkPi8Oh7R/8xDE5vfrZyTKmPUu+6GKO0vH3r9R8lvv7UidbVjOF9TqZa5R2fTpsfW4L7rHbpjccWB7Iks0bAVhnnYqIHKI3yMXF7sOZDt4lY= Received: by 10.38.149.10 with SMTP id w10mr754689rnd; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:28:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:28:40 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Duo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:28:44 -0000 Well said! I completely agree. --Nick On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:55:01 -0600 (CST), Duo wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > > Can we please STOP fueling Anthony's drivel? > > > > --Stijn > > > > -- > > Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. > > > > I have two words for you: Mail Filtering. > > Use it. It can work wonders on signal to noise ratio. He is not going to > quit, ever. > > Honestly, the whole disk thing reminds me of an experience with FreeBSD > and an old gateway solo laptop. > > I wanted to make better use of it, as it was given to me, and it had > windows 98 on it. Now, when I went to install 5.3, the machine would boot > off CD, but, completely bork upon trying to get the disk to work. > > I popped in my 4.x CD, it worked with the disk fine. So, something must > have changed. I scoured the list for similar/related issues. And, I found > a simple setting change I could make at boot time, for the DMA settings, > to get 5.3 installed. Made the same change in the .conf for boottime, and > I was off and running. > > What I did not do, was camp out on the list, make wild random accusations > that FreeBSD was a bug infested nightmare, because windows worked, but the > newest FreeBSD did not. Windows has a very high tolerance for errors, > which it masks.Masking such things is typically by design, so as not to > panic the person sitting in front of it. I have seen this time and again. > It's not a reason to panic. Ever. Also consider, it shields alot of > "sysadmins" from real issues, as opposed to forcing them to deal with them > in a real positive way: researching the problem to solution. I think this > is one of the core issues Anthony has: having been sheltered from any real > issues such as these, he's not equipped. > > Having worked to get LinuxPPC (when it was new) working with NewWorld > Macs, and new powerbooks, there are always solutions, provided you dont > act like a reprehensible jackass, who spouts off about their credentials, > etc, ad infinitum, as a justification for bowing to their irrational and > asinine behavior. > > The bottom line is, this guy will never go away. He dosent "get it", so to > speak. He dosent understand the fundamentals of open source methodology, > he does not have a clear, concise, and professional understanding of how > development, or any kind of rational sense of how the troubleshooting > method works. He has zero clue as to how one can apply isolation logic, > and all he wants to do is say, "it worked on NT, now you better make it > work for me, or else your product sucks, and you are not a real developer > if you don't pander to my every whim". > > In the end, yes, he is annoying. But, you can take steps to avoid him, his > posts, and the replies. Set up mail rules, procmail, whatever you need to > do. And, while this may be a hassle, a good set of mail filtering > templates is always a good idea, because Anthony is not the first flaming > troll to ever be on this, or any mailing list, and he will not be the > last. You would do well to accept this, start filtering replies, and bask > in the new found signal to noise ratio. > > I have him blocked, but, not the replies. I think mostly, the list mages > are handling him well, and, reading the fallout is far more entertaining. > > -- > Duo > > Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of > suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system > administration. > --Philip Greenspun > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:33:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB4416A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362A43D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 748570 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:33:18 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:28 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> And you ran into a snag that you can't work through. > > Yes, at least not with the time I have available. Classic tune. I play it a lot too. >> Most people if they were doing this on a lark would either replace the >> hardware or try a different distro. > > There's only one "distro" of FreeBSD. Yup, that's why I was referring to Linux with the 'distro thing. Or you can try NetBSD. It came on a CD with this month's Linux Format magazine. Supposed to be compatible with everything short of a toaster. > Replacing the hardware defeats > the purpose of making good use of existing hardware that still runs > perfectly. Well, if it's spewing errors, are you sure that it's running perfectly? :-) Doesn't sound it! I'd still suspect that there's a problem with the hardware at some level and NT just didn't report it to you. But that's just a WAG. That's also why I suggested Linux. See if a version of Linux reports errors as well. Two to one saying something is wrong with the hardware, you might want to look at the hardware. If it's just FreeBSD, then avoid FreeBSD on that hardware. >> When I ran into that error before, I remember seeing another person >> post to a list saying that NT doesn't report the reset error. Linux >> did. Maybe this is what you're running into? > > Well, if NT didn't report the error, and I never lost the data, how do > I > get FreeBSD to stop reporting the error? Obvious answer is grep and commenting the fields out of the source code :-) Obvious concern is that it is a warning that something's wrong (or not set up correctly) and it may fail or cause problems down the road. >> And the design of the OS may be 20 years old, but the OS most people >> are using isn't. > > So? So, you're saying it's 20 years old. I said it's based on a 20 year old *design* that still works very well, but if the OS were 20 years old, it wouldn't run on anything being released today hardware-wise. Thus the OS isn't 20 years old. Hell, cars are *basically* the same as they first were. But I don't think you can swap parts from a model T into an 04' vette and expect it to keep running properly. Unless maybe the seat can be retrofitted. >> Is the hardware on the compatibility list? What is it? > > An AIC7880 SCSI controller. Well, is there a way to dump the code from that controller and compare it to another one that is known not to be tampered with by the OEM? Anyone out there on the list have one they can do this to? > Anything can happen with bad hardware. That doesn't mean that every > error you see is bad hardware. No, but you eliminate the obvious and the easiest-to-fix parts first. Digging through source code and going through debug cycles for legacy hardware isn't exactly time well spent by most sane opinions, when the fix could be a ten minute swap of a drive or something like that. > When the processor failed on my old server, I got segment violations in > all sorts of programs. Does this mean that if I get a segment > violation > on the new server, I should replace all the hardware--since I've seen > segment violations before when a a processor fails? Actually, I think most troubleshooters would get another processor first (or check that cooling was adequate to the CPU and memory) if that was what fixed it last time. Next would be memory. So right off the bat you have fans to check, processor, and memory. None of which are the fault of the OS, all very likely culprits. >> ... you simply refuse to believe the possibility that something could >> have been wrong but NT didn't *TELL* you about it, and then want to >> launch into an attack on the OS in a list where people are running >> FreeBSD quite happily on a wide range of hardware. > > If no data corruption occurred, there was nothing wrong. If NT doesn't > have to tell me about it, neither does FreeBSD. That's an interesting philosophy. I already posted about Linux messaging that the controller was in need of constant resets. The drive was *FAILING*. NT didn't say anything. If you like sticking your head in a hole then go ahead and comment out the code that give the error and all will be well. Most UNIX people like having diagnostic errors in the logs to troubleshoot things. I didn't lose data when that had happened to me. But the failure was *coming*. I had oddball pauses in the OS, I had clicking noises occasionally happening as the drive reset...but didn't lose data. So go ahead and press your luck. Your hardware, your choice. Maybe it's a nothing error, like the ones I see when a bridged set of network cards on the network are making the ARP daemon go nuts on one of the servers with switched from to error messages. > But nobody actually knows what is wrong. Nobody has any clue. That's > the problem. Can you contact whoever the developer is that's in charge of SCSI work? Ask the right person and I bet they could help. That's about as obvious as "I found it in the last place I looked!" :-) > Lots of people are willing to wildly speculate on this or > that hardware problem in order to create the impression that they know > what they are talking about, but careful scrutiny of what they say > reveals that they are totally ignorant of the real problem. *sigh* they were offering assistance in the form of "when I had a similar problem, I tried X, and it worked...try X." You tell them they're idiots. Now, I can't imagine WHY people would get a bad impression of you. This is a free list for trying to help people. To "try to create the impression they know what they're talking about", they won't achieve much on a mailing list for other geeks and admins. That's also why most of them have no trouble telling you that you've treated people like crap and can shove that server where the sun doesn't shine if you have so little respect for their suggestions, since they aren't paid to get insulted or thanked on this list. Whether you get your stuff to work isn't their problem. They were just offering free advice. Want paid support? Doesn't Walnut Creek still do that? There's other consulting firms too who I'm sure would work with you on it once the contract is inked. Then you have every right to raise a stink. > They have > no idea but cannot bring themselves to say so. And their idea of > troubleshooting is to replace hardware forever because they don't know > what the software is doing. Maybe it's a legacy from supporting Windows, or it's the fact that sometimes it's just *faster* to replace an ill-supported video card with one that works rather than work on a new driver. I mean, *duh*. >> The stories just don't jive. You're implying it doesn't work and is >> crap because all your hardware isn't working with it. This list is >> populated by people that have worked out problems and configuration >> errors and are running it without trouble. > > On the same hardware? Evidently not. It's legacy hardware you're using! :-) >> Something just intuitively tells me that at this point you're more >> concerned with pissing people off to make a point. > > No, although I do get tired of talking to people who sound like they're > still in grade school. I'm accustomed to working with professionals, > and professionals address the problem, they don't shoot the messenger. Really? I'd didn't get that impression after a few ad hominem attacks on people in the list. Although I'm having fun with the occasional barb being tossed just because it appears that you have insulted so many on this list that you're rapidly losing hope of getting anyone to help you if for no other reason than you seem unwilling to work with their suggestions in the first place and attack people for being idiots when you aren't getting them to dive right in with the debugger for an eight-year-old HP system. The grade school approach would have been to tell you to just go away and take your server with you right off the bad. To the contrary, Ted has continued to offer suggestions despite your attacks, and other people have just started ignoring you, while a couple are sitting back and enjoying whatever fallout comes from your quandary since they have better things to devote time to than getting insulted. >> Probably the best thing for you to try is Linux Knoppix on your >> server, >> see if it boots and sees errors. > > I suppose I may be forced to try something else; it doesn't look like > I'm ever going to get any help with FreeBSD. Haven't you ever used Knoppix? It's liveboot. it *doesn't install* to your system. Just runs straight from CD. That's the point. Easy way to try things, try to recover from problems, test for problems, trial Linux, etc...? You're telling me you've never heard of it before? > The problem is, most open-source communities are populated by the same > sort of adolescent mentalities; all they want to do is defend their > beloved favorite hardware and software and attack anyone who disagrees > with them. Quite the leap. You're insinuating everyone is a doodyhead on the list while at the same time saying that they just want to defend their OS because you can't convince the list users to dive in with debugger and screwdriver in hand to fix the problem you're having specific to your machine, a machine that you said yourself would be difficult to get another of the same configuration for testing. If it's difficult to get it for testing, how in hell do you expect the developers to reproduce the problem? Ship them your server? Your current approach seems to be tell them their nitwits then ask for help...how ridiculous is that approach? The only "attacks" I saw on you were retaliation for your own inflammatory comments. I don't recall EVER seeing someone on this list start flaming on someone without that someone baiting others into it. I've seen rude, I've seen curt, but not flames. That tells me that when flames are billowing the other person brought their own gasoline to the party. As far as the "open-source communities" are concerned, they're not doing it for a specific person. Different people have their own agendas, but make no mistake...they do this because they want to work with the software. They're not out to make a buck, they're not out to please the desktop users who insist on clicking on porn popups and viruses in email. They really don't care if you want to use it or not. They didn't force you to use it! You came to the OS yourself. If you don't like it, switch to something else...LIS, try the Knoppix CD to see if the error is there too! > It's all one big weekend hobby to them, or one sacred > religion, or both--but it's certainly not professional IT. They're not driven by profit. Deal with it! And if you want to maintain that proprietary is the way to go because they aren't leaping in to fix a bug on an 8 year old computer you can't find a duplicate of for testing *yourself*, then that's fine with them. Maybe you should tell Google or Yahoo that their OS is unsuitable for professional production environments. Meanwhile I came back monday to a locked up Win2k laptop. Hmm... Did you even look at the link/google searches I sent previously for people to ponder over with some critical thinking, the Shatter attack and Why I Hate MS pages? > That's why > open-source is never likely to replace proprietary software ... nobody > in the open-source community is willing to grow up. You're entitled to your opinion. If it's worth getting this worked up over, try emailing the dev team and ask them nicely to look at it with you. Stomping your feet and sulking while screaming about everyone ELSE being childish isn't going to get you very far. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:40:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B21916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF8C43D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.44 #0 (FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE)) id 1DDmQA-000E0A-Pg by authid for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:58 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:58 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322163958.GD89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.9i (2005-03-13) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:04 -0000 * Gary Smithe [20050322 19:08]: wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:54:38 +0300, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > > Hello dudes, > > > > I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from > > home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. > > I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will > > enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like krdesktop, > > from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me > > access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. > > > > I am sure there is something, but I just can't find it!! > > > > All pointers will be appreciated. > > > > -Wash > > > > I assume you have allowed (on the XP box) remote desktop connections > (system properties) and the XP firewall is turned off. XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running the former. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ YOW!! Everybody out of the GENETIC POOL! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:46:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E6E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:46:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D837943D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:46:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MGkYeF021534; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:46:35 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Tom Vilot In-Reply-To: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:46:34 +0000 Message-Id: <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:46:48 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 09:22 -0700, Tom Vilot wrote: > I've done a lot of snooping around Google to figure this out. I've come > to the conclusion that PHP just plain sucks ;c) > > I am fairly consistently getting bus errors in Apache when I use PHP (or > at least, I'm fairly sure it is due to PHP). One way to find out is to comment out the LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so and AddModule mod_php4.c in httpd.conf and restart apache. I think you need to make sure this is the source of the problem before getting too involved in trying to fix it. But then, I've found most apache/php errors actually derive from some php extension and this can be traced by a process of elimination. It's often then a dependency of the extension that has been updated, or something. > Entries like: > > ... [notice] child pid 70121 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) > > Or if I run Apache in stand-alone mode, I will often simply get: > > Bus Error > > and it exits immediately. > > I am running php4-4.3.10_2 and apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 on > FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE (Generic kernel). > > Is this something that will clear up if I move to FreeBSD 5.3? Or is > there some other known work-around? I ask because I have a 5.3 box here > at home that does not seem to be exhibiting this behavior. Yes, but going to 4.11 should fix it as well. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 16:50:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D67116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:50:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp7.wanadoo.fr (smtp7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4966243D6A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:50:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D474D1C000AD for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A2BB01C00099 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050322165039666.A2BB01C00099@mwinf0708.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:39 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:50:42 -0000 Bart Silverstrim writes: > Obvious concern is that it is a warning that something's wrong (or not > set up correctly) and it may fail or cause problems down the road. Who can tell me _exactly_ what it means? > Well, is there a way to dump the code from that controller and compare > it to another one that is known not to be tampered with by the OEM? I don't know. > No, but you eliminate the obvious and the easiest-to-fix parts first. The hardware is neither obvious nor easy to fix. > Digging through source code and going through debug cycles for legacy > hardware isn't exactly time well spent by most sane opinions, when the > fix could be a ten minute swap of a drive or something like that. If I knew the source code, resolving the problem would probably take about ten minutes. > Actually, I think most troubleshooters would get another processor > first (or check that cooling was adequate to the CPU and memory) if > that was what fixed it last time. Next would be memory. So right off > the bat you have fans to check, processor, and memory. None of which > are the fault of the OS, all very likely culprits. I replaced the entire machine, except for a few components: the floppy disk drive, the CD drives, and the original disk (which, oddly enough, is _not_ the one generating the SATA errors). > That's an interesting philosophy. I already posted about Linux > messaging that the controller was in need of constant resets. The > drive was *FAILING*. NT didn't say anything. If you like sticking > your head in a hole then go ahead and comment out the code that give > the error and all will be well. Most UNIX people like having > diagnostic errors in the logs to troubleshoot things. If you have backups, you'll survive. It's nice to have warnings, but not a hundred times a day at 30 pages each. Nor are warnings much good when they freeze or crash the system. > Can you contact whoever the developer is that's in charge of SCSI work? Isn't that what this list is for? > Haven't you ever used Knoppix? It's liveboot. This machine won't boot from a CD. > You're telling me you've never heard of it before? I've heard of it, but this machine won't boot from a CD. > Did you even look at the link/google searches I sent previously for > people to ponder over with some critical thinking, the Shatter attack > and Why I Hate MS pages? These pages will not resolve my problem. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:01:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAF216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:01:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arzaga.net (adsl-64-109-180-25.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [64.109.180.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8CA043D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:01:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from broohaha@arzaga.net) Received: (qmail 8043 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Mar 2005 17:03:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:03:00 -0600 From: Al Arzaga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322170300.GB3629@arzaga.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: php5-extensions meta-port help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:01:44 -0000 I posted this last week, but given the lack of response, I'm hoping it was merely overlooked due to the flood of other posts to this list. I'd like to continue using the php5-extensions meta port to add modules to my php install. In this instance, I need php to link to a different set of odbc libraries instead of the standard unixODBC port's. If I were to manually compile from source, I would add the following argument to my ./configure command: --with-unixODBC=shared,/usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC Now, how would I do the same thing within the context of the php5-extensions meta-port implementation? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -Al From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:02:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBA116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DDF43D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MH2ZnZ075023; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:02:34 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:02:34 -0700 To: Peter Risdon Message-ID: <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:02:37 -0000 > But then, I've found most apache/php errors actually derive from some > php extension and this can be traced by a process of elimination. It's > often then a dependency of the extension that has been updated, or > something. I'm starting to think there's something funky about PHP and MySQL. > > Is this something that will clear up if I move to FreeBSD 5.3? Or is > > there some other known work-around? I ask because I have a 5.3 box here > > at home that does not seem to be exhibiting this behavior. > Yes, but going to 4.11 should fix it as well. Can you explain why? What is it about 4.11 vs 4.9 with regard to this issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:04:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2ED16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5E843D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4240500D.5080900@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:13 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@usmstudent.com References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <423FA414.2050409@usmstudent.com> In-Reply-To: <423FA414.2050409@usmstudent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2005 17:04:51.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[43179960:01C52F01] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh password delay -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:04:17 -0000 darren wrote: > order hosts,bind > multi on Glad you got it fixed. Where did you find this config documented? My 4.10 hosts.conf man page doesn't mention anything like this (and 5.3 seems to have lost the file altogether -- at least there was no man page for it). --Alex, curious From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:09:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:09:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3A43D66 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:09:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DAC389210; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:09:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:09:38 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Al Arzaga , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <52CF00CB9D051F54F8CBA283@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050322170300.GB3629@arzaga.net> References: <20050322170300.GB3629@arzaga.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: php5-extensions meta-port help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:09:39 -0000 --On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:03:00 AM -0600 Al Arzaga wrote: > > If I were to manually compile from source, I would add the following > argument to my ./configure command: > > --with-unixODBC=shared,/usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC > > Now, how would I do the same thing within the context of the > php5-extensions meta-port implementation? > cd to /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions make config select unixODBC make install clean Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:12:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCEF16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:12:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119D843D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:12:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 753630 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1111486000.751.221.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <7c2cf9b1abb85ee648b5764f9c7915f4@chrononomicon.com> <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:34 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:12:46 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Instead of a five year old version of Windows? :-) > > Why should it matter? Comprehension on this matter is a little lagging. I seem to recall you said you went from Windows 2000 (it's what, 5 years old?) to a new version of FBSD, the equivalent of Windows 2003 in terms of release status in comparison between MS and the FBSD team. Okay, perfectly good hardware should keep working no matter what. Will XP install on a 486 or 386, out of curiosity? I can't get OS X to run on my 68k Mac...but it is perfectly good hardware! Something must have changed somewhere at some point... >> Because dumb terminals are just smart serial modems? > > Serial modems are largely obsolete, too. And I haven't seen too many > modems that behave like VT100 terminals. As I recall, they were dumb serial devices. Both were. Simple dumb serial terminals. Similar interfaces. As for being obsolete, I just bought a Zoom external serial modem with drivers for the Mac, latest Windows, and Linux support. Sweet! :-) Obsolete yet still available and supported. You admit that serial is obsolete and going by the wayside yet keep arguing that the code for such should be kept and will continue to work for future products,...there's a duality here that just isn't quite converging in your logic (or you need to better clarify this position)... >> Because those specs haven't been obsoleted? > > Who is using VT100s today? Is anyone interconnecting FreeBSD and > GECOS? > There's still a field in /etc/passwd records for that purpose. I'm sure there are. We have people in the local hospital clinic that use dumb terms. There's howtos for people to set up home X terminals. >> Um...if the hardware wasn't working with FreeBSD, why did you install >> it, or try getting people to support it now that it's so old that most >> people aren't running it and you want a special effort devoted to >> getting it to work? > > I had no way of knowing whether it would work without installing > FreeBSD. It ran fine with Windows NT, and I assumed that FreeBSD could > at least match that. Ah...no way of knowing, I'd argue that since you found postings from people who had the issues with that model system and you said they never had it solved, there was *a way* of knowing, technically speaking. But then most people just playing on a lark would just shrug and move on to another OS or back to their old one if it didn't work out instead of waging WWIII on a mailing list over the issue. >> No one is stopping you from doing the work yourself. > > Nobody is stopping me from building my own metropolis, either, but that > doesn't mean that it's a viable option. Technically you need a population to do that and some funding. Insult people around you and I doubt they've move into your metropolis. Point is, you can do it. Is that really that hard to understand? You can do it. You opt not to. >> They're not out to please just you. > > They don't seem to be out to please anyone, which means that they'll be > spending most of their time in the secret treehouse club, instead of > out > in the big scary world of real IT. That's odd. Must be I was invited to the treehouse and people didn't give me the handshake. I got help from the lists, I've had problems solved. The difference maybe was that I didn't demand someone dive in with a debugger to solve my problems, though...I replaced the hardware in question :-) >> When they're obligated to do so, it's a job, not a hobby. They're not >> out to take over the business world. They're scratching an itch, or >> working for a principal or philosophy...try listening to Stallman's >> speeches on what Open Source means. > > So open source is just a fad. A hobby. A) Fad != hobby. B) How is this suddenly a fad just because it's not a paid job? >> Out of curiosity...what changes? > > I persuaded them to fix some things with patches instead of a new > release, or something like that--I don't remember the specifics. Oh man...how in hell do you not remember influencing MS to make a specific change for your whims and specs and NOT REMEMBER IT? Christ, I'd print it out and frame the proof...getting a multi-billion dollar company to do what *I* wanted instead of what they wanted or the rest of their customers?? Honestly...I came on the list with a problem with Portmanager, and after a few reports the guy who made it fixed the bugs and put me into the credits list as a bug tester and I printed it out for pride in helping him out and showing that I contributed in some small way. You got MICROSOFT to do what YOU wanted, and you just "don't remember the specifics"? Are you insane?? >> And did they give you credit? > > No, but I never cared about credit. My objective was to make sure that > people didn't stop using NT because of a stupid policy decision on the > part of Microsoft. You must be a very influential person. Ellison, Wozniak, Jobs, Groves, Atkielski,.... >> Why did you replace the OS and stress out when it didn't fit your bill >> of needs? > > I'm not stressed by it, so much as I'm amazed by the attitudes I'm > encountering. There's a big gulf between projects like FreeBSD and > real-world IT, apparently. Really? Interesting lumping of groups and companies. I can't get MS to care a whit about problems I had on a Dell server. Then I had another company (Faronics, if interested) where their tech support was *hunting me down* to discuss a problem that we put on the back burner until a summer upgrade could be done. Man, want good response, buy Deep Freeze...those guys *will* bend over backwards to help you. Seemed like the other big guys bend you over backwards instead. >> Wow...take this much further and I'd suggest you find someone on the >> list that wants to really really prove you wrong you could arrange to >> have that person take the hardware and run the diagnostics for your >> and >> ship it back to you afterwards with their findings... > > I'm not going to take the hardware apart. First I want someone to tell > me what the error messages in FreeBSD mean. Contact the person in charge of that part of the code, find out if someone on the list can find that for you. Most seem to have killfiled you or started ignoring you after you insulted the list people. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm getting similar treatment by association :-O >> Oddly enough, for us the hardware solution is correct about 95% of the >> time after going through the list of things the "user didn't do" with >> the configuration. For a ploy it sure tends to be accurate. > > Given the character of the user community (if my intuition is correct), > that wouldn't surprise me, but that's not the way it works in the > larger > world of IT. Interesting. I'm beginning to wonder what your definition is. I'll start out... I am in a department of two. My boss and I have over 1000 users in seven buildings spread out over a twenty mile stretch. We are in charge of their phones, the networks, the WANs, PC troubleshooting, user training, and our web servers and mail servers. While not IBM, I think this is larger than the average small business type network...and we have demands place on us that in true "business" usually means an actual department several times our department's current size. Your turn! >> If it's usually what actually had caused the problem, you're damned >> right they're going to suggest that be checked. > > You know it's almost certainly not the problem, but it lets you shelve > the issue so that it doesn't come up on your status reports for a week > or more. No, actually we still have it in our lab if that's the issue. If we can't return it they get another system to replace it and we still have to deal with the system since it's taking up space here. Either way, for us, it's still our problem. Your turn! >> Why devote the man-hours to debugging and reconfiguring if it's a >> cable that worked loose? > > It's almost never a cable that has worked loose. Checking the cables > is > almost invariably just a way to kill time. And it's five minutes I'll never get back. . On those occasions where it WAS the problem, it saved hours of software troubleshooting. Yay! >> See, this is part of what's supposed to be natural selection in >> business. If you treat a customer like crap, you lose customers, and >> eventually go out of business, unless you're a monopoly. > > Virtually all computer companies are doing this right now, today, and > they aren't all monopolies. So start your own. You obviously know more than we do when it comes to customer relations. It shouldn't be hard for you to make your first bilion. If you didn't already with the influence you have (How do you not remember single handedly influencing MS?? I can't get over that...) >> If what you're suggesting were true and this system works, then they >> would go away. > > It _is_ true; that's how it is done. > > They don't go away any more than FreeBSD goes away with no support at > all. Then you're saying it's not true, that's not how it works...? I am not understanding you here...that IS how it works, but they don't go away, which means it isn't how it works...no? >> Well, then do something about it. > > I'm not managing these companies. Then start one silly! If everyone sucks at this and you have the answer, you have a niche you could make a killing in. >> If the market is truly that bad and the customer is truly as competent >> as you're giving them credit for then it should be no problem at all >> for you to start a tech support company that can beat the pants off >> everyone else. > > You can't make money in honest technical support, especially as a third > party. Oh dear. Pretty cake, yet hungry. The dilemma. If it's this bad, as bad as you describe, you'd make a killing with you own tech support outsource company. You seem to lack faith in your evaluation of customer demand vs. the state of the current offerings! :-) > I have no illusions about there being wizards out there who actually > know what they are doing. If they were there, they would have spoken. > I lose nothing by ignoring the kiddies. I keep hoping, but I'm really > less and less optimistic. Of course they do. They have nothing to gain by helping you other then boosting their reputation or making themselves feel better. And if you treat people like you're an ungrateful imp, they'll probably feel little obligation to help you. They are *volunteers*. Not people trapped in a cube at a tech support call center. I've also suggested trying to contact the dev team to see if they can help you further if you narrowed this down to a general area for the problem. I've asked on one posting if someone could help get a dump of your controller code compared to a known unmodified version. I've asked if someone could help you get a trace. I have NO DOUBT that there are people on this list that can do that. I have no doubt that you've alienated several of them and they've killfiled you. Dude, you shot yourself in the foot! You don't insinuate the group of people are nitwits then ask for their help. > As I said, I want to know what the problem is. What is FreeBSD > reporting? What do all the messages mean, EXACTLY? Unless and until > someone can tell me that, I'm not going to waste my time indulging the > armchair experts with their roll-the-dice support philosophies. Okay, I can't help you because I am not the developer. I was trying to help you with something else. Hell even quoting you may have helped a little since I KNOW of some people that are blocking your address now but you are still quoted in my message, if they haven't blocked me too. I have tried a couple suggestions to help narrow down the problem or get results to compare to. You instead want to hammer on finding someone to debug an old piece of driver code. *shrug* > Who's going to pay me for the time I lose indulging them? And who's going to pay them to focus on what you want? > The fact is, they aren't any more competent than I am. All the more reason for them to tell you to do it yourself. You should stop insulting them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:20:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D40916A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C97743D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:20:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so1869317wra for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=i2ppHwjcwwa2mh6VeNdfLBLQ8JouosFKBz6Y0L779LbLRP/eT3zJfsFsl8F2H1eXozZnqSkBtriaI+3mtAwFzQyMzrzuk/suUCpnrJNKgzVWcWxCXHo+RFEwqDG9ERxsDW2pniybHHUtzU6j5YkxeVMzYEMKi1NDVUzM1pUxb+Y= Received: by 10.54.51.64 with SMTP id y64mr466834wry; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:20:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:20:41 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322163958.GD89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <20050322163958.GD89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:20:43 -0000 > XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running > the former. > > > -Wash > oops. missed the "home" part in the original post. sorry. Go with VNC. I'm not sure how it works cross-platform, but ultravnc has a file transfer option where it can send files over the vnc ports. GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:23:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0E516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E6D43D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lashby@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so1179245rne for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:23:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MdxMUVNq6Faevk6gxDJbh5vb5zmvTnR8FvrGhs7ByDMDYniqu/RW4mTNsZBvALpZ6dA6IYFFi9lXAKCZ1AL+dltx4Y1shkZVNK2+bBOTVM1tbiz+5RoLkQJsqQ7AvidWL+RFw1yJ8P0ApJs8wJx3KN4/eMCq5q8MgIRYXF0bPVM= Received: by 10.38.162.43 with SMTP id k43mr5640458rne; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.73.22 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:23:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9cd98d120503220923536d6e17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:23:00 -0600 From: Logan To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions In-Reply-To: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503212021.j2LKLHtq018150@asarian-host.net> Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Logan List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:05 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:17 GMT, Mark wrote: > Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): When you ran configure, did you tell it to generate the shared library? ./configure --shared The installation commands you listed are all based on the shared library existing. If it's not there, the links go nowhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:23:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A8043D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 754360 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:23:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:23:16 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:23:27 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> Obvious concern is that it is a warning that something's wrong (or not >> set up correctly) and it may fail or cause problems down the road. > > Who can tell me _exactly_ what it means? I don't know...I'm not on the devel team! I'm sorry! Well, that's kind of a lie, but I really don't know who in particular to contact. I never came to the list demanding an old driver be run through the debug wringer. >> Well, is there a way to dump the code from that controller and compare >> it to another one that is known not to be tampered with by the OEM? > > I don't know. Well, maybe someone else on the list knows! :-) >> No, but you eliminate the obvious and the easiest-to-fix parts first. > > The hardware is neither obvious nor easy to fix. Really? We had a system just a couple days ago that was rebooting at random. Removed one of the memory sticks, haven't had a trouble report since. Seems pretty darn easy to me... >> Digging through source code and going through debug cycles for legacy >> hardware isn't exactly time well spent by most sane opinions, when the >> fix could be a ten minute swap of a drive or something like that. > > If I knew the source code, resolving the problem would probably take > about ten minutes. And you'd most likely be a full-time developer on the team. But even then I don't know too many bugs that take "just" ten minutes to fix. >> Actually, I think most troubleshooters would get another processor >> first (or check that cooling was adequate to the CPU and memory) if >> that was what fixed it last time. Next would be memory. So right off >> the bat you have fans to check, processor, and memory. None of which >> are the fault of the OS, all very likely culprits. > > I replaced the entire machine, except for a few components: the floppy > disk drive, the CD drives, and the original disk (which, oddly enough, > is _not_ the one generating the SATA errors). I just named the fix we go through when presented with the errors you gave me. Anyone else on the list think I'm that far off base with my solution to segement error crashes that previously were fixed after replacing the CPU? In my experience, it's bad processor or memory, or a cooling issue. After that, we look at the PCI bus...video, sound, etc....we normally don't reinstall the OS if it was working and suddenly gave errors like that. >> That's an interesting philosophy. I already posted about Linux >> messaging that the controller was in need of constant resets. The >> drive was *FAILING*. NT didn't say anything. If you like sticking >> your head in a hole then go ahead and comment out the code that give >> the error and all will be well. Most UNIX people like having >> diagnostic errors in the logs to troubleshoot things. > > If you have backups, you'll survive. It's nice to have warnings, but > not a hundred times a day at 30 pages each. Nor are warnings much good > when they freeze or crash the system. When it crashes or freezes, I don't think that's because of the warnings as much as it is due to what the warnings are warning about...but thats just my observation. BTW-backups would be nice, but if the drive or controller (or memory) are going wonky but "keep working", you have no guarantee your backups are in a consistent state. >> Can you contact whoever the developer is that's in charge of SCSI >> work? > > Isn't that what this list is for? No...didn't think so. This is a users question list. I don't know how many of the developers monitor this list. >> Haven't you ever used Knoppix? It's liveboot. > > This machine won't boot from a CD. um... >> You're telling me you've never heard of it before? > > I've heard of it, but this machine won't boot from a CD. I'm beginning to not blame FreeBSD for not supporting your hardware if it's this old...? >> Did you even look at the link/google searches I sent previously for >> people to ponder over with some critical thinking, the Shatter attack >> and Why I Hate MS pages? > > These pages will not resolve my problem. No, but they may augment your critical thinking skills. Especially when you're pining about MS's responsiveness to issues. Shatter, according to the author, CANNOT be fixed, and MS has ignored it. Thus it counters your claims. The Why I Hate MS page is an excellent and well written document on several points of what's perceived as "wrong" with MS. Won't resolve your problems but it may keep you from spouting off on the wonders of a company that isn't all that flowery great and not always customer driven. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:27:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563EB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:27:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87FA43D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:27:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1683464wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GQIGFlDpNaDZ7+nkqSPEgy04kTqujog2j9zIO64ubxyqSkqRQAE8+nuP44gJEwEPkN6/Bl7U9S9zYQCJdES/gjCBf/YkjB4cVMybVst9HKHUP83MSi5N7nMd5CD1k4yXCpGNiGQq1uHhwuITgy23wrmKZxgHPvKi86hve+rZwCs= Received: by 10.54.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr4279365wrw; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:27:16 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:27:18 -0000 [SNIP] > > Haven't you ever used Knoppix? It's liveboot. > > This machine won't boot from a CD. [SNIP] > Anthony I don't really like adding trivial stuff to an already long thread, but... with Knoppix, you can make floppies to boot from (they're on the cd) and it will load the kernel and search for the CD in the cd-drives it finds. I've had to use it on some Pentium 2 PCs before. Not saying that you should, just that you can (with any luck). GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:40:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D7F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:40:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from complex.heavybit.com (complex.heavybit.com [216.127.86.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C61C43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ken@broadjam.com) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (c-24-98-140-190.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [24.98.140.190]) (authenticated) by complex.heavybit.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2MHeVS27962 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:40:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <6e343084c1fac1cab86b5914cdc5ab7a@broadjam.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: " " From: Ken Hawkins Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:40:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: urchin5 dependancies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:40:32 -0000 upon installing urchin5 i get this error: ===> Installing for urchin-5.702 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if www/urchin5 already installed /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.4" not found, required by "gunzip" tar: Error opening archive: Empty input file: Inappropriate file type or format ./install.sh: cannot create /usr/local/urchin/var/urchinwebd.conf.template: No such file or directory ./install.sh: cannot create /usr/local/urchin/util/urchin_daemons: No such file or directory mv: rename /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/.domain.unf to /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/domain.unf: No such file or directory mv: rename /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/.domain.unh to /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/domain.unh: No such file or directory mv: rename /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/.domain.uni to /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/domain.uni: No such file or directory mv: rename /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/.domain.uns to /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/domain.uns: No such file or directory mv: rename /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/.domain.local to /usr/local/urchin/data/geodata/domain.local: No such file or directory ./install.sh: /usr/local/urchin/util/uconf-driver: not found chown: /usr/local/urchin/data: No such file or directory chgrp: /usr/local/urchin/data: No such file or directory ## Error: Problems changing permissions on the distribution files install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/local/urchin/util/urchin_daemons /usr/local/etc/rc.d/urchin5_daemons.sh-dist install: /usr/local/urchin/util/urchin_daemons: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/ports/www/urchin5. but it looks like my box might be a bit wonky here as libc.so is on the box: /usr/lib/libc.so so there must be something in the environment set up for this. anyone seen this or experienced this problem? ken; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:41:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:41:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99E143D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:41:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2MHerde021676; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:40:53 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Tom Vilot In-Reply-To: <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:40:53 +0000 Message-Id: <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:41:10 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 10:02 -0700, Tom Vilot wrote: > > But then, I've found most apache/php errors actually derive from some > > php extension and this can be traced by a process of elimination. It's > > often then a dependency of the extension that has been updated, or > > something. > > I'm starting to think there's something funky about PHP and MySQL. > > > > Is this something that will clear up if I move to FreeBSD 5.3? Or is > > > there some other known work-around? I ask because I have a 5.3 box here > > > at home that does not seem to be exhibiting this behavior. > > > Yes, but going to 4.11 should fix it as well. > > Can you explain why? What is it about 4.11 vs 4.9 with regard to this issue? Just that it's an up-to-date release. PHP and its extensions do depend on bits of the base system. You are using the very latest ported version, so far as I can see, with an out of date world. http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html says: The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches. Older releases are not supported and may or may not work correctly with an up-to-date ports collection. Over time, changes to the ports collection may rely on features that are not present in older releases. Wherever convenient, we try not to gratuitously break support for recent releases, but it is sometimes unavoidable. When this occurs, patches contributed by the user community to maintain support for older releases will usually be committed. Peter. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:44:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A3516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49DB43D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so1235586rne for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aRwH8Mo2YHHwFbNoc7yHnjT+BBtXOe//xt3MN7jkCcnCQ269GLxPJkOnyC2xE/6QeqzaalcfFs/4a6W0i41QsfosLbbmdW1JOAYov8TthDErAjPSr1zCM2ouefXaRlXXyjSdWdGnga/MasLqB+4DWU7UkAHB6lbfq5cj6xw+xJo= Received: by 10.38.102.12 with SMTP id z12mr5715463rnb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:44:32 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000901c52efe$a9e2c870$b6cc1c53@sxat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322042027.81291.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> <000901c52efe$a9e2c870$b6cc1c53@sxat> Subject: Re: NIC nVidia nForce MCP Network Adapter based on Realtek 8201BL PHY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:33 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:46:15 +0100, Rafal Swiderski wrote: > > > >How install in FreeBSD NIC card nVidia nForce MCP Network > > > Adapter > > > >based on Realtek 8201BL PHY ? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > If you are using 5.3, try the nv driver in ports/net/. After > > > building it, load it as a kernel module. I know it works for > > > MCP2. This may be available in earlier versions, too; I do not > > > know. > > > > > > good luck, > > > > > > stheg > > > > > > > So does this mean i can use my NIC on my asus sk8n (nforce 3 chip) too ? > > Yes, my motherboard is asus a7n8x-x (nForce2) and my NIC card work corretly > after i installed driver nv Alrighdy :) The kldload if_nv.ko works when i do ifconfig and plug in the network cable i see nv0 going from inacative to active :) But when i edit boot/load.conf and rc.conf my sk8n amd64 keeps on rebooting just right before showing me the bsd boot menu ? I guess this means i need to use a boot cd to fix this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:44:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D1D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C77343D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perikillo@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so1235701rne for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LOy7AE1Eg5jqKqoM6t00csIiL+l9EABgFWf7en6VEEZMyQXcl3I6F/1mrEP7t82d3dGOnKCE5ne8oLUrjFaM2Zn1aFkn7AQLz89SIiw8ed5UcV+wbeZ/NuBx3gtlCuOV0UolA/iZJwVTtjUvWbeyUUh90ptlHH6Bn+b3DJ882Dw= Received: by 10.38.207.18 with SMTP id e18mr5506322rng; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.98.28 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51d7a516050322094423a7f83b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44:58 -0800 From: perikillo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: plog for ipfilter is not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: perikillo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:44:58 -0000 Hi all. I want to analize my logs of ipfilter on my freebsd box, i dont want to use any X stuff, because i dont any of that on my firewall. Them i have read about scripts that we can found under: /usr/src/contrib/ipfilter/perl/ (:-? i think) On the google, i see that plog is recomend, i dont have much experience on perl, but i give the try, i copy that file under the root dir /root/ Them i make the test: test# sh /root/plog -AF block,log < /var/log/firewall.log.0 And perl send to me this error: ---> unexpected '(' on line 159. thie is the code where appear this error: use strict; use Socket; use IO::File; select STDOUT; $| = 1; my %hosts; my $me = $0; $me =~ s/^.*\///; # Map of log codes for various actions. Not all of these can occur, but # I've included everything in print_ipflog() from ipmon.c. my %acts = ( <------------------------Here 'p' => 'pass', 'P' => 'pass', 'b' => 'block', 'B' => 'block', 'L' => 'log', 'S' => 'short', 'n' => 'nomatch', ); For me is correct the code, maybe the mistake is on me? I forget or miss something? Any help i will apreciate or another program to analize my logs? Freebsd 4.11 Release ipfilter on the kernel. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:48:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5214D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:48:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99A743D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:48:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2MHmJ5K149560; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:48:28 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0CFC31A190D; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:54:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E871A1908; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:54:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:54:19 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: Bart Silverstrim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:48:34 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >>> ... you simply refuse to believe the possibility that something could >>> have been wrong but NT didn't *TELL* you about it, and then want to >>> launch into an attack on the OS in a list where people are running >>> FreeBSD quite happily on a wide range of hardware. >> >> If no data corruption occurred, there was nothing wrong. If NT doesn't >> have to tell me about it, neither does FreeBSD. > > That's an interesting philosophy. I already posted about Linux messaging > that the controller was in need of constant resets. The drive was *FAILING*. > NT didn't say anything. If you like sticking your head in a hole then go > ahead and comment out the code that give the error and all will be well. > Most UNIX people like having diagnostic errors in the logs to troubleshoot > things. And, herein lies the main and core behavioral issue at play: He is upset, because he is used to a system, which is more apt to fail "open", than fail "closed". And, this POV, is sadly all too common in the FUD Farms that grow windows zealots. Unfortunately, this behavior is also close minded, and very prone to unprofessional behavior. The mere fact that NT is failing "open", if it were me, would be reason enough to question the hardware. I would trust the BSD team, more than Microsoft, on this, because, Microsoft has a *fact verifyable* history of allowing things, both though ignorance, and by design, to fail "open" rather than closed. Their goal is to maximize the number of people paying them money. To make things "easy". And, in doing so, sometimes forget that "easy" does not equate with "right" or "correct". The open source people are more concerned with quality. *ESPECIALLY* in the area of kernel and driver level code. You dont just wake up one day and decide to write device drivers for an open source project. You have to be a special kind of nutcase, a special kind of crazy. =) But, in the end, the mere fact that NT, and indeed, I have seen similar behavior in Server 2003 and XP. Any system that fails "open" is far more suspect to me, than one that fails closed. > *sigh* they were offering assistance in the form of "when I had a similar > problem, I tried X, and it worked...try X." You tell them they're idiots. > Now, I can't imagine WHY people would get a bad impression of you. This is a > free list for trying to help people. Precisely. He has champaign tastes, and beer money. But, nonetheless, people are *still* trying to help him. I too, am a sucker for strays. =) >>> Something just intuitively tells me that at this point you're more >>> concerned with pissing people off to make a point. >> >> No, although I do get tired of talking to people who sound like they're >> still in grade school. I'm accustomed to working with professionals, >> and professionals address the problem, they don't shoot the messenger. > > Really? I'd didn't get that impression after a few ad hominem attacks on > people in the list. His "professional" status, to me, is tantamount to a high school boy bragging about sex. And, you know what they say about that: The ones who talk about it the most, get it the least. All in all, Bart, I have to say, every time I think he might be starting to "get the picture", he reverts, and says something that makes me just *boggle*. I have no problem with intelligent debate. I just dont care for condecending attitudes. My main point in this message is to simply point out, that, this is a point of view argument. Of almost religious proportions. But, sad to say, Anthony has it wrong. The religion here is not Windows vs. FreeBSD. It is not Open Source, vs. Proprietary. The religious argument going on is: who is to be trusted, a system that fails "open"? And indeed, while failing open, neglects to tell you something that could turn out to be critical? Or a system that fails "closed"? My experience, my training, and my cluepon of the day tells me to distrust a system that fails open. I wish alot more people understood this concept. =) -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 17:51:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B386016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:51:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F1D43D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:51:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1713677wra for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=r1Qm8NBzMJWxyybeSKdCaztTxRZxaLEQa82XpcEdsdyrEKGyXQ73VkvfdMSe+VKJqQMPI9orWr94v9eR7GnSfoa2TVqwBG4lAdK/JbuEcQwwDJ7beRuHYeZUo0c4Yzu2S8PS56TCtUedoq7rYhcsrSOxef1GtMeqBk012Z2B1y8= Received: by 10.54.33.64 with SMTP id g64mr4550143wrg; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.50.43 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8292450b050322095155619a18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:05 -0600 From: CHris Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:51:07 -0000 I'm jumping into this late but this guy screams TROLL and i had to put my comments in.. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:25:14 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Freminlins writes: > > > On a different OS. > > Exactly. With _identical_ hardware. So if the hardware ran under the > other OS, but not under this OS, where do you look first for the > problem? Ya know I work in tech support and many times people call with modem/network/whatever not working right and their biggest argument when I tell them it may go out is: it worked fine for x number of years why would it go out now? and everybody knows sometimes things go wrong and there is no explanation for it. I'm not saying it's a problem with the hardware....but by ignoring the advice people have given, then criticizing something that several people who have spent thankless hours with no compensation guaranteed for any of their work and calling it trash is just a sh*tty thing to do all around. My experience with this mailing list consisting of people who range from casual users to experienced programmers has been great. Every question (which I haven't had many) I've asked has either been answered outright or pointed in the right direction to look. So attacking the people who run this list is the wrong way to go about solving a problem. > > If your car runs perfectly for years with one brand of oil, and then you > change brands and the engine seizes, where do you look for the source of > the problem? > > > Don't try and put your words in my mouth. > > I'm just pointing out the unavoidable implication of what you said. NT > ran on this hardware for eight years without a hitch; FreeBSD cannot do > the same. It's not the hardware. > > > On your ancient hardware with an ancient OS you didn't have problems. > > UNIX is twenty years older than NT. > > > Why not stick with it if it's been so reliable? > > I wanted to try FreeBSD. > > Is that what you tell people who have trouble getting FreeBSD to work? > "Reinstall your old OS"? In my experience I would rather have people who can think for themself than someone who comes asking for direct answers right now. If you have trouble getting FreeBSD to work and are unwilling to take advice from people who are originally trying to help you and throwing it out the window then heck yea try something else besides FreeBSD 'cause it ain't for you... > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:05:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511C216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:05:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (w094.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CDC43D2F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:05:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD4521CD for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BAA21C7 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MI54LL001253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MI53bY001250; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:05:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:05:03 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:05:01 -0000 I'm having trouble building a jail under 5.3 (RELENG_5_3). I'm following the process in the jail man page and it dies trying to compile on of the bootstrap tools. Google and the freebsd-questions archives show several other people reporting the problem, but I havn't seen anyone post a solution. I last cvsup'ed around 3/16. Can anyone suggest a way forward? Thanks, g. Here's my /etc/make.conf # # To avoid building various parts of the base system: # NO_FORTRAN= true # do not build g77 and related libraries NO_I4B= true # do not build isdn4bsd package #NO_SENDMAIL= true # do not build sendmail and related programs # build from ports (sendmail-sasl) instead. CVS_UPDATE= true # pick these up from ports instead! #NO_SENDMAIL=true #NO_MAILWRAPPER=true #SENDMAIL_CF_DIR= /usr/local/share/sendmail/cf #SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL #SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib #SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=YES # for imap-uw WITH_DB3=YES #BATCH=yes NOCLEANDEPENDS=yes PACKAGES=/usr/ports/packages # use the version from the cups port instead. NO_LPR= true # do not build lpr and related programs # added by use.perl 2005-03-16 12:40:43 PERL_VER=5.8.6 PERL_VERSION=5.8.6 and here's what I get when I do a 'make world DESTDIR=/usr/jails/cgl' (root@ash)[9:59am]src>>make world DESTDIR=/usr/jails/cgl -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> make world started on Tue Mar 22 09:59:27 PST 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/c++/3.3 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/sys mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/dict mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devascii mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devcp1047 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devdvi mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devhtml mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devkoi8-r mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlatin1 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlbp mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlj4 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devps mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devutf8 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mdoc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mm mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/compat/aout mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/ldscripts mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/defs mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/mibs mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include >/dev/null ln -sf /usr/src/sys /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/usr/jails/cgl -m /usr/src/share/mk" /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS legacy ===> tools/build /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build cd /usr/src/tools/build; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make buildincludes; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c building static egacy library ranlib libegacy.a sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libegacy.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/usr/jails/cgl -m /usr/src/share/mk" /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS bootstrap-tools ===> games/fortune/strfile /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c echo strfile: /usr/jails/cgl/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib/libegacy.a >> .depend cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c make: don't know how to make /usr/jails/cgl/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. (root@ash)[9:59am]src>> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:08:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B27A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:08:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51308.mail.yahoo.com (web51308.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BF3A43D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcpaq2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72587 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 18:08:48 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=BTG607tR12+tACvteIiG0860B5nLt2OGTVQqDSubvM0KZh7rj+UGzuXD/TPkdSYYnASRaGmDrc4dTrrnIddzSXRXadHUAgvzAymWeoz54w+BeCVMUMOUzE4uUZGshGCLGjODIJab5HZgYz0CIX3Trw29zMBzkK17YkweZWB8RRM= ; Message-ID: <20050322180848.72585.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.75.60.45] by web51308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:08:48 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:08:48 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Paquette To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Free BSD and HP's Integrated Lights Out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:08:49 -0000 Group, Is there anyone here who knows if HP's Integrated Lights out card on a Proliant DL380 G3 will for sure work with Free BSD? I beleive it will from the last time I tried the trial, but that was 8 months ago and I cannot remember if it did or not, and I have already used up my 30 day trial, and HP doesn't know how to get me more trial time. I hate to buy the licencing pack without knowing for sure. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks Doug __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:12:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2190716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arzaga.net (adsl-64-109-180-25.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [64.109.180.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 891F543D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from broohaha@arzaga.net) Received: (qmail 8279 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Mar 2005 18:13:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:13:24 -0600 From: freebsd@arzaga.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322181324.GD3629@arzaga.net> References: <20050322170300.GB3629@arzaga.net> <52CF00CB9D051F54F8CBA283@utd49554.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52CF00CB9D051F54F8CBA283@utd49554.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: php5-extensions meta-port help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:08 -0000 Doing what you suggest will build unixODBC from the ports collection. I already have a configured implementation of unixODB in /usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC Is there a way to point to that and indicate that it should be built as a shared extension? On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:09:38AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:03:00 AM -0600 Al Arzaga > wrote: > > > >If I were to manually compile from source, I would add the following > >argument to my ./configure command: > > > >--with-unixODBC=shared,/usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC > > > >Now, how would I do the same thing within the context of the > >php5-extensions meta-port implementation? > > > cd to /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions > make config > select unixODBC > make install clean > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3B816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5B043D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1F460F3 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94623-06 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by makeworld.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EB37D60DB; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483860D8 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:12:12 -0600 (CST) From: RacerX To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <475796164.20050322170853@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <20050322120417.X94547@makeworld.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> <475796164.20050322170853@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:12:18 -0000 > Chris writes: > >> ... and as of June 2005, MS retires 2000 - at least thats the projected >> date. > > So this hardware is still supported today. I suspect it may still be on > the HCL afterwards, too. > >> In addition, if you went back to NT - you would also know you are on >> your own being that MS stopped support about a year ago. > > You're overlooking a key point: In eight years of running Windows NT, I > never _needed_ any support. I never once put in a call to Microsoft > technical support. Support comes in many fashons - my example require you to think about Service Packs, Hot fixes etc. NOT you typical call to some munkie reading a script. > >> It's really very simple. Get 2 SCSI drives that are alike, that will >> most likely halt your issies. > > SCSI drives are $300 each, and drives compatible with this controller > and connectors are scarce. The last time I checked, about a year or two > ago, there was only one drive left on the market that was compatible. > All the others required different connectors. > > -- > Anthony Read what happens when you mix 2 unlike SCSI drives. Read how one faster one HAS to pace itself with the slowest. Hell, just read about SCSI and you'll find this out. Now - Stop tossing legacy hardware at a new OS. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:24:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743C016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832A43D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2MIO4ko012375; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:24:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2MIO3Va014279; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:24:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2MIO2QZ010521; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:24:02 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDo2s-0001hw-00; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:24:02 +0100 Message-ID: <424062B0.4090802@web.de> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:23:44 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hartzell@alerce.com References: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> In-Reply-To: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:24:12 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: > Can anyone suggest a way forward? I think I did only "make world" without DESTDIR and specified it of course afterwards when doing "make installworld". Greetings, Robert! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:36:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A09016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:36:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.orbweavers.co.uk (213-152-38-100.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.38.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328D843D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:36:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.16.199] (unknown [192.168.16.199]) by mail.orbweavers.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601C020034 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:41:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Martin McCann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <1975192207.20050322041925@wanadoo.fr> <1688160068.20050322102514@wanadoo.fr> <1404322406.20050322112613@wanadoo.fr> <802735952.20050322164924@wanadoo.fr> <13910123255.20050322175039@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:35:58 +0000 Message-Id: <1111516558.21777.22.camel@orker.orbweavers.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: martinmcc@orbweavers.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:36:05 -0000 In an effort to try to stop this list from becoming Antony personal anger outlet forum, I would like to put in my 2p worth. Antony is displaying typical bully boy tactics - aggressively attacking any response that does not coincide with what he want to hear while throwing out and endless stream of pugnacious remarks ('immature teenagers', 'secret tree house club' etc.). It seems either he has a inability to communicate with any degree of sophistication, or he is uninterested in the answer and is merely trolling. Antony: Your annoyance seems to hinge on the fact that you have asked a question, and not been told how exactly how to fix it to your liking. When given possible solutions, you answer with sarcasm and rudeness, rather than a polite 'thanks, I tried that, but it didn't help' etc. I speak for myself, but I am sure there are a large amount of people of a similar disposition on this list - I am on this list primarily to get answers. If a question is asked which I think I can help with, I will answer. If not, I will not say a word (I am sure no-one would like to see 300+ 'I don't know' replies). I will answer becuase I have a natural tendancy to try to help people. That tendacy disappears very fast when I start to dislike someone, and making sharp rude and arogent replies is a very quick way to be disliked. You continuely compare the level of support of FreeBSD to Windows and other corporate products. That is a void comparison. They support you because that is what you paid for. No-one is paid to support you, and while I am sure there are plenty of people who would like to push FreeBSD into higher usage, I could not care less who else is using it (again, I am sure I am not alone in this), and would rather see less people with your attitude using it. Stop running around yelling its not fair that people won't play by your rules, and get over yourself. Take a breather, come back and show a bit of respect to the people you are asking for help, or don't come back. Regards, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:38:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8838916A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:38:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DF043D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:38:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1054988wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:38:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MTYRzzp9E9mqCyAzHb3vB6jqJBuJfghTWaP8xDzWbPLtNkRqCM1my7LGLAmfNLEXSu12nOnGhLPV+jX1zCq119yRsyAwmdjbHuAclQ6ons9lDGwNzdBgfwTjSVVSM8XuZ6yjYwnP8xc/nIl9hAXkPKhKu+ktHlhtKf9mWU6cjTA= Received: by 10.54.103.7 with SMTP id a7mr156743wrc; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.42.28 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:38:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <810a540e05032210383be3f75a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:38:52 -0700 From: Pat Maddox To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pat Maddox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:38:54 -0000 What are some considerations to make before upgrading the ports? Does upgrading them overwrite the existing config files? I've got a number of ports that aren't up-to-date, but this is running on a server, so I don't want to muck up the software and configs that are currently running. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:40:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907F616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:40:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from charade.trit.org (charade.trit.org [65.19.139.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B443D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:40:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@trit.org) Received: by charade.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CAC8A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:40:42 +0000 From: Andy Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050322184042.GA18359@charade.trit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-Advocacy: Use FreeBSD. X-PGP-Key: 8982ACB9 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 70CC 757F 49BB 0ED4 925C 5BA3 EC6C BF9B 8982 ACB9 Subject: CARP and ng_fec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:40:42 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am currently trying to setup CARP for a new high availability system. I have CARP working fine as long as I don't try using ng_fec. This system requires that I use FEC for NIC fail over, and I'd really like to use CARP for the IP fail over. Has anyone tried this, or have any ideas on how to get CARP to work with fec? I have read about the option "carpdev", but every time I try to use it I get "ifconfig: carpdev: bad value". Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- Andy Miller --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQGal7Gy/m4mCrLkRAhyYAJ9ZSZlYXBLkIT4gxw2Sg3o6J8m9GACgo0ht 7F75RrC2euEGqzxKlY6Ts7I= =ENtp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:50:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7291A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:50:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A20D43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:50:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15EA4BA5E; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:50:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:50:46 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: ayed samiha Message-ID: <20050322185046.GA83358@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050322133954.60191.qmail@web25801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050322133954.60191.qmail@web25801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:50:55 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 02:39:54PM +0100, ayed samiha wrote: > J'aime avoir une documentation (fichiers, directions...) sur > l'impl?mentation de Ethernet sous FreeBSD Salut Ayed, la liste freebsd-questions@freebsd.org est anglophone. Ceci dit, vous pouvez consulter les sources directement. FreeBSD supporte un grand nombre de cartes Ethernet. Il suffit d'etudier un des "drivers". Par example: /usr/src/sys/dev/ed /usr/src/sys/pci/if_* > Merci -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 18:58:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0351F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF37D43D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:29 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=J7mK0q9k=SA=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MIwTVi053575 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:58:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: sender IP is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=asarian-host.net; client-ip=sender IP; envelope-from=; helo=asarian-host; Message-Id: <200503221858.j2MIwSNo053565@asarian-host.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:28 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: fFeHUa29HEGvvLBmy5FzXbNvIi8Vh8SFx/17q9yABwIT6grm31NtrfJaVBWd8bIRDh1sXm2qkpSpMYuZBx2yNw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'FreeBSD-Questions Questions'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <9cd98d120503220923536d6e17@mail.gmail.com> X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQkBq1TFqW1BleBN9AQG0/gf9FgYpO2kTUweCAjtq8fHQOSW2LaQuxwvA ZaRQSDPCxu2dyO58HN4YnDM+g2qnppoZEKirK50DCzBDhQytAJAbt0GFOxkle/o2 U1IZo9eH6GNGiBeoz/2oUxENs/xxS6OKEI0qAaUfww3r9qMsO1cNOoKmKVwjlLql oaAKMkxvBODLRRPxV7Fj8swMqN0fMwh9sqxczmJg7QtcZ/qBEewmBf5ABcL7ZrBM QmQ8TZH099weZu16NagO0zrjSmbASHv+cJfxwASRBtZRcSIM+/S5QsaGjqHKgJTt LROXBplhCN9wsFtSPPZw+ZaiDfztuCAyhdo4CfWyoJdhr/bpM0fQZw== =qsO7 Subject: RE: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Logan > Sent: dinsdag 22 maart 2005 18:23 > To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions > Subject: Re: Where is zlib-1.2.2 zlib.so? > > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:21:17 GMT, Mark wrote: > > > Ok, I downloaded and installed zlib-1.2.2 (FreeBSD 4.10R): > > When you ran configure, did you tell it to generate the > shared library? > > ../configure --shared > > The installation commands you listed are all based on the shared > library existing. If it's not there, the links go nowhere. Hmm, no, I didn't do that. :) I just ran ./configure, with no parameters. Doh! It is solved now. Thanks! - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:14:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD7816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [62.117.108.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099C043D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:14:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:root@mccme.ru [62.117.108.7]) by ns.mccme.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2MJ9Mhe037667; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:20:37 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from emin@mccme.ru) Received: from mccme.ru (IDENT:emin@localhost.mccme.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mccme.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA06747; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:45:52 +0300 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:45:52 +0300 From: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" To: "Peter N. M. Hansteen" Message-ID: <20050322134552.GD3137@mccme.ru> References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322130900.GC3137@mccme.ru> <868y4f6c9i.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <868y4f6c9i.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCCME Moscow X-MCCME-Spam: No, score=0.019 required=5 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:14:50 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 02:28:09PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: " "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: " " > Unfortunely, this mean, that OpenBSD's pf can not measure " > traffic, because we can not separate incoming and outgoing " > traffic in bidirectional rule. Or we must not use keep state " > feature. " " I think I understand what you mean - you do not want per connection " statistics, you want packets passed by direction, regardless of which " side initiated the traffic, subdivided by pass rule. At the moment I'm " not sure how to put that into pf.conf rules, but you may want to go " where the real pf experts hang out - pf@benzedrine.cx - and see if " there's an angle we haven't thought of. " Yes, now you understand me right. Sorry my bad english :). pf@benzedrine.cx is it mail-list or private e-mail. Does I need to register anywhere before mail to it? -- Sensory yours, Eugene Minkovskii óÅÎÓÏÒÎÏ ×ÁÛ, å×ÇÅÎÉÊ íÉÎØËÏ×ÓËÉÊ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:29:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EF216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5E943D5D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F7D389485 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:28:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:28:28 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <644570DB23C1DBD00A9AA19C@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050322181324.GD3629@arzaga.net> References: <20050322170300.GB3629@arzaga.net> <52CF00CB9D051F54F8CBA283@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <20050322181324.GD3629@arzaga.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: php5-extensions meta-port help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:16 -0000 --On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:13:24 PM -0600 freebsd@arzaga.net wrote: > Doing what you suggest will build unixODBC from the ports collection. > I already have a configured implementation of unixODB in > /usr/local/easysoft/unixODBC > > Is there a way to point to that and indicate that it should be built > as a shared extension? > I have no idea. This question would probably be better directed to the freebsd-ports list. Someone there is more likely going to be able to answer you. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:29:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E574B16A4E2 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from teemfws1.spt.com (teemfws1.spt.com [199.103.143.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1093243D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: 4486F523-8452-46E7-A869-D7093D940DD9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:29:12 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B25AC67@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Keyboard question... Thread-Index: AcUu9US5VNS2AVmjSBqlyPOi8vjoowAH167Q From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2005 19:29:12.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D83CCA0:01C52F15] X-WSS-ID: 6E5EAD8E2C0723120-12-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Keyboard question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:29:22 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bomgardner,Jon=20 > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:39 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Keyboard question... >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello all! >=20 > So, I've run into an interesting snag that I just can't seem to figure > out. >=20 > I've gotten 5.3 up and running and installed Xorg and KDE. I=20 > spent some > time in KDE playing around and when I came out by "logging out" it > dropped me to the command prompt but I couldn't type anything. I've > since rebooted and can't login because it won't allow me to type. If I > boot into single user mode I can type just fine. >=20 >=20 > Any thoughts, suggestions, or ideas=3F I've searched the handbook and > FAQs, and I tried searching this list but couldn't find anything. >=20 > Thanks for any help >=20 > Jon Bomgardner >=20 So, it turns out that my USB mouse was causing the lock up... It's wireless and works with a USB key style receiver. While FreeBSD recognized it (as I noticed it deactivate the port after I yanked it out) it doesn't seem to like to use it and it locks up the keyboard (I suspect some kinda IRQ conflict. While this problem is solved, if any one has any ideas how I can get the mouse to work (Targus PAWM004 wireless) it would be greatly appreciated. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:30:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2163D16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from netbox.yi.org (216.23.59.224.nw.nuvox.net [216.23.59.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDD843D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:30:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from exp@netbox.yi.org) Received: from netbox.yi.org (netbox.yi.org [127.0.0.1]) by netbox.yi.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MJUCp1024184; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from exp@netbox.yi.org) Received: (from exp@localhost) by netbox.yi.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MJUCqG024183; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from exp) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:30:12 -0500 From: exp@netbox.yi.org To: Pat Maddox Message-ID: <20050322193012.GA24093@netbox.yi.org> References: <810a540e05032210383be3f75a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <810a540e05032210383be3f75a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Using portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:30:14 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:38:52AM -0700, Pat Maddox wrote: > What are some considerations to make before upgrading the ports? Does > upgrading them overwrite the existing config files? I've got a number > of ports that aren't up-to-date, but this is running on a server, so I > don't want to muck up the software and configs that are currently > running. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" portupgrade won't modify your config files. But be sure to read /usr/ports/UPDATING before you upgrade anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:58:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B55216A4CE; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.iesy.net (mta001.iesy.net [81.210.131.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676C543D49; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:58:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from walter.pelissero@iesy.net) Received: from zaphod.home.loc (unknown [81.210.131.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.iesy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1CE21FD5; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from zaphod.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.home.loc (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MJvi8R057222; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:57:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wcp@zaphod.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by zaphod.home.loc (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MJf9b5057042; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:41:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <16960.29890.275825.89615@zaphod.home.loc> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:40:50 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.50.1 X-Attribution: WP X-For-Spammers: blacklistme@pelissero.de X-MArch-Archive-Date: 2005-03-22 20:57:50 X-MArch-Archive-ID: 1244 X-MArch-Processing-Time: 0.17s Subject: panic in prison? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:58:51 -0000 Once a week or so there is a system running 5.3-STABLE that panics for unknown reasons (at least to me). I haven't managed to reproduce the problem at will but I did manage to get a dump and do a backtrace. The kgdb session goes likes this: --------------------8<--------------------8<-------------------- creosote# kgdb /sys/i386/compile/X6DA8-G/kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore= .2 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db= .so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and yo= u are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condi= tions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for deta= ils. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd". doadump () at pcpu.h:159 (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:159 #1 0xc04ce9e4 in boot (howto=3D260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:4= 10 #2 0xc04cec76 in panic (fmt=3D0xc060d89a "%s") at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:566 #3 0xc05efb28 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xe8c689bc, eva=3D27) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:809 #4 0xc05ef86b in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xe8c689bc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D= 27) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:727 #5 0xc05ef531 in trap (frame=3D {tf_fs =3D -389677032, tf_es =3D -1068761072, tf_ds =3D -10670571= 36, tf_edi =3D -1067134688, tf_esi =3D -1008631040, tf_ebp =3D -3896417= 16, tf_isp =3D -389641752, tf_ebx =3D -1013296640, tf_edx =3D 4, tf_ecx= =3D -1067009216, tf_eax =3D -1, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_eip= =3D -1068525908, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66118, tf_esp =3D -1013296= 640, tf_ss =3D 1}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:417 #6 0xc05e0a0a in calltrap () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:140 #7 0xe8c60018 in ?? () #8 0xc04c0010 in prison_free (pr=3D0xc39a5200) at ../../../kern/kern_j= ail.c:277 #9 0xc04a1078 in spec_open (ap=3D0xe8c68a74) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:207 #10 0xc04a0e03 in spec_vnoperate (ap=3D0x0) at ../../../fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:118 #11 0xc051ff2d in vn_open_cred (ndp=3D0xe8c68be4, flagp=3D0xe8c68ce4, c= mode=3D0,=20 cred=3D0xc5238300, fdidx=3D0) at vnode_if.h:228 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #12 0xc051fb12 in vn_open (ndp=3D0x0, flagp=3D0xe8c68ce4, cmode=3D0, fd= idx=3D3) at ../../../kern/vfs_vnops.c:91 #13 0xc051a06a in kern_open (td=3D0xc396d7d0, path=3D0x0, pathseg=3DUIO= _USERSPACE,=20 flags=3D3, mode=3D0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:957 #14 0xc0519f94 in open (td=3D0xc396d7d0, uap=3D0x0) at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:926 #15 0xc05efd9f in syscall (frame=3D {tf_fs =3D 47, tf_es =3D 47, tf_ds =3D 47, tf_edi =3D -1, tf_esi = =3D 671984685, tf_ebp =3D -1077943096, tf_isp =3D -389640844, tf_ebx =3D= 671991904, tf_edx =3D 671984703, tf_ecx =3D 674511308, tf_eax =3D 5, t= f_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 2, tf_eip =3D 674018787, tf_cs =3D 31, tf_e= flags =3D 658, tf_esp =3D -1077943188, tf_ss =3D 47}) at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:1001 #16 0xc05e0a5f in Xint0x80_syscall () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s= :201 #17 0x0000002f in ?? () #18 0x0000002f in ?? () #19 0x0000002f in ?? () #20 0xffffffff in ?? () #21 0x280dac2d in ?? () #22 0xbfbfe4c8 in ?? () #23 0xe8c68d74 in ?? () #24 0x280dc860 in ?? () #25 0x280dac3f in ?? () #26 0x283439cc in ?? () ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #27 0x00000005 in ?? () #28 0x0000000c in ?? () #29 0x00000002 in ?? () #30 0x282cb5e3 in ?? () #31 0x0000001f in ?? () #32 0x00000292 in ?? () #33 0xbfbfe46c in ?? () #34 0x0000002f in ?? () #35 0x00000000 in ?? () #36 0x00000000 in ?? () #37 0x00000000 in ?? () #38 0x00000000 in ?? () #39 0x53489000 in ?? () #40 0xc3973c5c in ?? () #41 0xc396d7d0 in ?? () #42 0xe8c686f0 in ?? () #43 0xe8c686d8 in ?? () #44 0xc34ba7d0 in ?? () #45 0xc04dca4b in sched_switch (td=3D0x280dac2d, newtd=3D0x280dc860, fl= ags=3DCannot access memory at address 0xbfbfe4d8 ) at ../../../kern/sched_4bsd.c:865 Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (kgdb) frame 8 #8 0xc04c0010 in prison_free (pr=3D0xc39a5200) at ../../../kern/kern_j= ail.c:277 warning: Source file is more recent than executable. 277 =20 (kgdb) list 272 } 273 =20 274 void 275 prison_free(struct prison *pr) 276 { 277 =20 278 mtx_lock(&allprison_mtx); 279 mtx_lock(&pr->pr_mtx); 280 pr->pr_ref--; 281 if (pr->pr_ref =3D=3D 0) { (kgdb) print *pr $1 =3D {pr_list =3D {le_next =3D 0x4d4f4547, le_prev =3D 0x494d3a3a},=20= pr_id =3D 1380930130, pr_ref =3D -1067325952,=20 pr_path =3D "\002\000\000\000home\000=B1T=C3$\210=C6=E88\210=C6=E8\00= 4=D5\2337\214\022\027W\002\000\000\000\000\002\000\000\000\001\000\b\00= 0\000\003\000.s\027\021\000\000\000\000\002", '\0' , = "=CAGVz=AA\rt~?=A2=D9T=F1=D3N6", '\0' , "\022\t", '\= 0' , "2", '\0' , "=A1\036\004\000\0= 00\000\000\000\000=E3=EF=C3\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\0000u", '\0' , "p=E6=EA=C4\000\000\000\000\020U\232=C3", '\0' , "\020U\232=C3\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\006#\000\00= 0\003\000\000\000\000K\000\000=CF\005\000\000\004=FF=FF\177\027\025"...= , pr_root =3D 0x0,=20 pr_host =3D "\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\004\000\000\000\000\000= \000\000=F00K=C7\002\000\000\000\000\002\000\000.\000\000\000=C00K=C7\b= \000\000\000\005\000\000\000=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF=FF\002\000\000\000", = '=FF' , "\001\000\000\000", '=FF' ,= "\004\000\000\000", '=FF' ,=20 pr_ip =3D 4294967295, pr_linux =3D 0xffffffff, pr_securelevel =3D -1,= pr_task =3D { ta_link =3D {stqe_next =3D 0xffffffff}, ta_pending =3D -1, ta_prior= ity =3D -1,=20 ta_func =3D 0xffffffff, ta_context =3D 0xffffffff}, pr_mtx =3D {mtx= _object =3D { lo_class =3D 0xffffffff, lo_name =3D 0xffffffff "", lo_type =3D 0= x0,=20 lo_flags =3D 4294967295, lo_list =3D {tqe_next =3D 0xffffffff,=20= tqe_prev =3D 0xffffffff}, lo_witness =3D 0xffffffff}, mtx_lock = =3D 1,=20 mtx_recurse =3D 2504}} (kgdb) print allprison_mtx $2 =3D {mtx_object =3D {lo_class =3D 0xc064801c, lo_name =3D 0xc061ab3d= "allprison",=20 lo_type =3D 0xc061ab3d "allprison", lo_flags =3D 196608, lo_list =3D= { tqe_next =3D 0x0, tqe_prev =3D 0x0}, lo_witness =3D 0x0}, mtx_loc= k =3D 4,=20 mtx_recurse =3D 0} (kgdb) q --------------------8<--------------------8<-------------------- The system is a Supermicro X6DA8-G dual Xeon and the boot log is: Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kern= el Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Pr= oject. Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, = 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: The Regents of the University of Calif= ornia. All rights reserved. Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 3 10:3= 6:27 CET 2005 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: root@creosote.contab.tab.loc:/usr/src/= sys/i386/compile/X6DA8-G Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 = Hz quality 0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (28= 00.11-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf3= 4 Stepping =3D 4 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Features=3D0xbfebfbff Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: real memory =3D 2146893824 (2047 MB) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: avail memory =3D 2095353856 (1998 MB) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Det= ected: 4 CPUs Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on mot= herboard Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on mo= therboard Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on mo= therboard Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: npx0: [FAST] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: npx0: on motherboard Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579= 545 Hz quality 1000 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545= MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu1: on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu2: on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: cpu3: on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib0: port 0xc= f8-0xcff on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib1: irq 16 at= device 2.0 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib2: irq 16 at= device 3.0 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci2: on pcib2 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib3: at device= 0.0 on pci2 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci3: on pcib3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ahd0: port 0x2000-0x20ff,0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xd8200000-0xd8201fff irq = 32 at device 2.0 on pci3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ahd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI= Id=3D7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ahd1: port 0x2800-0x28ff,0x2c00-0x2cff mem 0xd8202000-0xd8203fff irq = 33 at device 2.1 on pci3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ahd1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel B, SCSI= Id=3D7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci2: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib4: at device= 0.2 on pci2 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci4: on pcib4 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: em0: port 0x3000-0x303f mem 0xd8300000-0xd831ffff ir= q 54 at device 2.0 on pci4 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:25:b3:= 37 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci2: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib5: irq 16 at= device 4.0 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci5: on pcib5 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci0: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0,= rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self = powered Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci1: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0,= rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self = powered Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci2: port 0x1880-0x189f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb2: on uhci2 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0,= rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self = powered Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci3: port 0x18a0-0x18bf irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb3: on uhci3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb3: USB revision 1.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0,= rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self = powered Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci0: mem 0xd8000000-0xd80003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: ehci_pci_attach: companion usb3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb4: EHCI version 1.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports e= ach: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb4: on ehci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: usb4: USB revision 2.0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0,= rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub4: single transaction translator Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self = powered Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pcib6: at device= 30.0 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci6: on pcib6 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: pci6: at device 2.0 (no= driver attached) Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: isab0: at device 31.0= on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:55 creosote kernel: isa0: on isab0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: atapci0: port 0x18e0-0x18ef,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.= 1 on pci0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: pci0: at device 31= .3 (no driver attached) Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: pci0: at device 31= .5 (no driver attached) Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: atkbdc0: = port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0= Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, dev= ice ID 4 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> por= t 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sio0: type 16550A Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> por= t 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sio1: type 16550A Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: fdc0: port 0= x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: fdc0: [FAST] Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 driv= e 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ppc0: port= 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NI= BBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshol= d Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ppbus0: on ppc0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: plip0: on ppb= us0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: lpt0: on ppbus0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ppi0: on ppbus0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: orm0: at iomem 0xc80= 00-0xc8fff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 o= n isa0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D= 0x300> Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-= 0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ipfw2 initialized, divert enabled, rul= e-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: acd0: CDROM a= t ata1-slave PIO4 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to = settle Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: (probe25:ahd1:0:6:0): No or incomplete= CDB sent to device. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ahd1: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 9 SC= Bs aborted Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: Interrupt storm detected on "irq16: uh= ci0 uhci3"; throttling interrupt source Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses0: Fixed Processor= SCSI-2 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses0: 3.300MB/s transfers Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses1 at ahd1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses1: Fixed Processor= SCSI-2 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses1: 3.300MB/s transfers Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: ses1: SAF-TE Compliant Device Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da0: Fixed D= irect Access SCSI-3 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz= , offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da0: 70007MB (143374744 512 byte secto= rs: 255H 63S/T 8924C) Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da1 at ahd0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da1: Fixed D= irect Access SCSI-3 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da1: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz= , offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da1: 70007MB (143374744 512 byte secto= rs: 255H 63S/T 8924C) Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da2 at ahd0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da2: Fixed D= irect Access SCSI-3 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da2: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz= , offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: da2: 70007MB (143374744 512 byte secto= rs: 255H 63S/T 8924C) Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: cd0: Removable= CD-ROM SCSI-0 device=20 Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: cd0: 16.000MB/s transfers Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size fail= ed: NOT READY, Medium not present Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home created (id=3D= 932959492). Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home: provider da1= detected. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home: provider da2= detected. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home: provider da2= activated. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home: provider da1= activated. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device home: provider mir= ror/home launched. Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mar 22 16:59:56 creosote kernel: SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! --------------------8<--------------------8<-------------------- A couple of considerations insipired by a blunt keyword matching of the forementioned logs: - as far as I know I don't run any process in jail. Jls in fact doesn't report anything - if I remember well the day when I prepared this system, the only bleeding-edge technology it's using is gmirror. Is there any way I could gather more clues about this problem? Thanks in advance. --=20 walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:01:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAB916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parrot.aev.net (host29-15.pool8174.interbusiness.it [81.74.15.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D488D43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:01:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-126-6.41-151.net24.it [151.41.6.126]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MKKgZo045157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:20:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from netfence.it (xanatar.ventu [10.1.2.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.ventu (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MJws8i024974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <42407A44.10506@netfence.it> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:04:20 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli Organization: NetFence User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040117 X-Accept-Language: it,en,fr,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Subject: Re: c++filt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:01:36 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > The change was also committed to the RELENG_5_3 branch after 5.3 was > released, so if you're tracking 5.3-stable, you should be able to just > cd into /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/c++filt and run "make ; make install". Nope. I'm still on 5.3p5 (I usually stuck to releases) and it does not work. I'll just wait for 5.4; in the meanwhile I'll have to resort from time to time to that old Debian machine :) Thanks. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:07:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3152516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C619A43D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id B78624868; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:07:49 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s149510; Tue, 22 Mar 05 21:07:43 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A84831 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:07:43 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 7459638012; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:07:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3F85C002 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:07:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:07:43 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:52 -0000 I have an odd problem. I can't get any 8-bit characters to show up after an upgrade. On the console nothing happens after I run kbdmap and choose Swedish ISO-8859-1. It just beeps, and prints the non-Swedish characters like before. In KDE, after having added my own xmodmap to the .xinitrc file, I though that they might appear. No such luck. Even after setting the keyboard layout on Control Panel/Regional/Keyboard Layout to Swedish do they not appear. Oddly enough, in emacs everything looks like it should! What am I missing, and what didn't I do after the upgrade? /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:19:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D25943D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alfredoj69@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1304115rnf for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:19:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B6utCQqXRaVWPUCKITkVZ1AUq6MiJz2XsneM+zhwj2B2VW80XtGCs6Dqngz43ouPITQIEvsB+lIbwBsWoELRBrE1i+Ep71PdSyCZPr4rP8pfMD8ZjgBJzvQBY8//arDQ09kM0RxPuLyimU30ZpNOagTND07jhoFtuDnVh4A6Xwc= Received: by 10.38.66.77 with SMTP id o77mr3048445rna; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.100? ([70.24.135.21]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 64sm931807rna.2005.03.22.12.19.02; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:19:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42407DB5.5050904@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:19:01 -0500 From: Aperez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Router/Firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: alfredoj69@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:19:05 -0000 Hi: I am trying to set up a router/firewall with Freebsd 5.3 this is my information: Winxp and Freebsd machine connected to Firewall machine using a hub Firewall has two ethernet cards: card1: dc0 connected to cable internet using DHCP card 2: rl0 setup to use 192.168.1.1 I can connect to the internet from the firewall: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.con successfull I can ping from Firewall to the other two machines (WinXP and FreeBSD) I can ping from XP to FreeBsd and Firewall I can pin from FreeBSD to XP and Firewall Here is the problem: I cant connect to internet from neither XP nor FreeBSD machine Here is my rc.conf from the firewall machine: gateway_enable="YES" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ipfilter_enable="YES" ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" ipnat_enable="YES" ipfs_enable="YES" Can anyabody tell me what I am missing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:20:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C341516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA6443D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDpon-00083N-Qd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:17:37 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:17:37 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:17:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:20:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Tom Vilot scribbled these curious markings: > After I start X, I need to switch to a virtual console and log in as > root so that I can issue kbdcontrol -r fast. Do you mean that you have your system set to load X immediately upon booting, and that you do not set the keyboard repeat rate before then? If so, put the following in /etc/rc.conf: keyrate="fast" And all should be well. Also note that you do not need to be root to issue that command. I need to do this command a lot when I reboot a machine on my KVM, because it registers as a keyboard disconnect which fouls up the keyboard settings, and having to su root each time would be rather annoying. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH3ek/lo7zvzJioRArSiAKCQkEj56qt9AeX5G+6Gp5TNSeOspACeLy05 t0ydLhuXH4uR9hZcfxOEJQs= =mJ0k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:22:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9754916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3F143D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDprK-00007V-IM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:20:14 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:20:14 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:20:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20050322135456.708d547e@linux.site> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation with single / partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Andrew Lewis scribbled these curious markings: [Please properly wrap your posts. 72 characters is the accepted maximum. I'm surprised that your Linux mailer doesn't do this for you.] > Is this a serious no-no? In my opinion, and that of the author of tuning(7), yes. I highly recommend that you read tuning(7), and carefully consider the points made therein as to whether your single slice setup is wise. Just because Gentoo or $OTHER_POPULAR_LINUX_DISTRIBUTION does something a certain way doesn't mean that it's right (of course, the same applies to the FreeBSD way of doing things, but often it is right :) ). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH1Ak/lo7zvzJioRAqBYAJ4wkr0as3JvreUeOWM4Bz48YQAsHwCgsYl4 mAcNN5MRslGSYdTd31pnDdE= =nEoh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:22:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE88916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA24D43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F653C12C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:22:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4536.216.220.59.169.1111522976.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <20050322163958.GD89505@ns2.wananchi.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:22:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:49 -0000 >> XP Home edition does not have Remote Desktop. XP Pro has. I am running >> the former. >> >> >> -Wash >> > oops. missed the "home" part in the original post. sorry. Go with > VNC. I'm not sure how it works cross-platform, but ultravnc has a > file transfer option where it can send files over the vnc ports. Works like a charm. I use RealVNC all the time. Both ways. I've even used it through SSH port forwarding. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:32:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BEB16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:32:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E542D43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:32:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDq15-0001bd-KM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:19 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:19 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <810a540e05032210383be3f75a@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:32:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Pat Maddox scribbled these curious markings: > What are some considerations to make before upgrading the ports? Does > upgrading them overwrite the existing config files? I've got a number > of ports that aren't up-to-date, but this is running on a server, so I > don't want to muck up the software and configs that are currently > running. You have good dumps, yes? And you've read /usr/ports/UPDATING, yes? And you've reviewed any changes to the Makefiles of the ports in question, yes? Then you shouldn't have any issues. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH9Ek/lo7zvzJioRAo0eAKC7l+QyDgzY4J7bx7Yx/izqDHjHLgCgglXT 5X1U54MJxqxscr7Zl+fAcfc= =m7EO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:48:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D216A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:48:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A5643D55 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDqAp-000315-2e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:23 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:22 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> <424062B0.4090802@web.de> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:48:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, Robert Gogolok scribbled these curious markings: > I think I did only "make world" without DESTDIR and specified it of > course afterwards when doing "make installworld". "make world" builds and installs the world onto your current system, leaving a /usr/obj intact. Unless you specified a DESTDIR for the installworld, it was spurious, replacing files already installed. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH7+k/lo7zvzJioRAvcbAJ9uk5UEfmqB/vB6kcstNTA4bx0tdwCdGDQj Zw8pvTooa9Ui2LTmU6NNDG8= =8psv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:57:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113BA16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:57:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 616C843D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:57:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aaron@nquit.com) Received: from unknown (HELO nquitlaptop) (nquit@sbcglobal.net@206.15.80.28 with login) by smtp819.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 20:57:44 -0000 Message-ID: <005401c52f22$4a823d10$7301a8c0@nquitlaptop> From: "Aaron Trumm" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:01:12 -0800 Organization: NQuit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD HOWTO: Software Mirror System Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:57:45 -0000 Hello is anybody there? 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I have a question...is this a typo?: gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad6 I get to that step and get the message "class not found" should it be?: gmirror insert boot /dev/ad6? or something? --signed, Confused From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:58:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B56816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF1743D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DDqKb-0004Mi-Ry for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:50:30 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:50:29 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:50:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these curious markings: > security note: > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any ports you > open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a knocking > daemon. This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQH5yk/lo7zvzJioRArUSAKCZ1bG0K0cEQURwPfGOBmuqbzJjXwCeNw+8 ju5tvFvFnYTykLnP/5j9pzk= =PM2b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:02:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC87C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:02:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88FF43D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:02:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2ML2Fbf009197; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2ML2FXL017821; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2ML2ERh022202; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:14 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDqVx-0001wd-00; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <424087C3.4050300@web.de> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:01:55 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> <424062B0.4090802@web.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com Subject: Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:02:18 -0000 Christopher Nehren wrote: >>>I think I did only "make world" without DESTDIR and specified it of >>>course afterwards when doing "make installworld". > "make world" builds and installs the world onto your current system, > leaving a /usr/obj intact. Unless you specified a DESTDIR for the > installworld, it was spurious, replacing files already installed. ARGH, right, sorry! I did a "make buildworld" and afterwards a "make installworld DESTDIR=..." See also: http://www.bsdforen.de/showthread.php?p=62201#post62201 german, but you should recognize the error at the top, and the response on 21.11.2004, 17:19 from the nick Ice Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:06:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDAE16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:06:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6720E43D5E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:06:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DDqaC-0007XO-M8; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:06:36 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:06:46 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503221506.46371.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc63b82fe46271b761e12b5a5896f0884d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Christopher Nehren Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:06:37 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these > > curious markings: > > security note: > > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any > > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even > > better, try a knocking daemon. > > This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The > Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. > > Best Regards, > Christopher Nehren To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a SSH application on the Windows computer. PuTTY is a free example, and is available at: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:10:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C43516A4D1 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:10:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.km.kongsberg.com (mail.kmss.no [193.69.71.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864C243D1D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.wiegand@simrad.com) To: "FreeBSD List" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3NP January 11, 2005 Message-ID: From: Chip Wiegand Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:09:13 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SMTP02/DMZ(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 22.03.2005 22:10:13, Serialize complete at 22.03.2005 22:10:13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1 doesn't exist? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:10:13 -0000 I am trying to compile phpmyadmin and it stops with error 1 because it cannot find pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1. I have check the fbsd site and don't see it listed in the ports tree. I then downloaded version pdflib-lite-6.0.1pl1.tar.gz and put it in the distfiles directory, but making phpmyadmin still fails, same error. I then renamed the file to pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1.tar.gz and it still fails, same error. What to do? -- Chip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:14:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5009D16A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:14:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD1443D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:14:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robertgogolok@web.de) Received: from cs.uni-sb.de (cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31]) by uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2MLE95S007078; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:14:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cs.uni-sb.de (mail.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.254.200]) by cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005011400) with ESMTP id j2MLE9wR018059; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:14:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from xantippe (xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13]) by mail.cs.uni-sb.de (8.13.3/2005020900) with ESMTP id j2MLE8co023048; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:14:08 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.cs.uni-sb.de: Host xantippe.cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.240.13] claimed to be xantippe Received: from eugene.cs.uni-sb.de ([127.0.0.1]) [134.96.240.6] by xantippe with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DDqhU-0001xs-00; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:14:08 +0100 Message-ID: <42408A8E.7070806@web.de> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:13:50 +0100 From: Robert Gogolok User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hartzell@alerce.com References: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> In-Reply-To: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:14:14 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: > ===> games/fortune/strfile > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c > echo strfile: /usr/jails/cgl/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib/libegacy.a >> .depend > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c > make: don't know how to make /usr/jails/cgl/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop > *** Error code 2 I've found now the mail from freebsd-current again: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-November/042348.html Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:26:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FC916A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3621443D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6E6C11D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:26:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2693.216.220.59.169.1111526814.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <200503221506.46371.algould@datawok.com> References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221102.48828.freebsd@danielquinn.org> <200503221506.46371.algould@datawok.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:26:45 -0000 > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these >> >> curious markings: >> > security note: >> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any >> > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even >> > better, try a knocking daemon. >> >> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The >> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. >> >> Best Regards, >> Christopher Nehren > > To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a > SSH application on the Windows computer. PuTTY is a free example, and > is available at: > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his WinXP Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I think there is an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for Win32 that runs on XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but the original poster may not want that much added to the XP system). http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/ -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:28:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E30A16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:28:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E497A43D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DDqvc-0000YV-88; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:28:44 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:28:53 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050322155438.GC89505@ns2.wananchi.com> <200503221506.46371.algould@datawok.com> <2693.216.220.59.169.1111526814.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <2693.216.220.59.169.1111526814.squirrel@216.220.59.169> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503221528.53983.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc0d8f5f121a9cad972517fe2cb9da5a6f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: Ean Kingston Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:28:45 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 03:26 pm, Ean Kingston wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these > >> > >> curious markings: > >> > security note: > >> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. > >> > any ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. > >> > even better, try a knocking daemon. > >> > >> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The > >> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Christopher Nehren > > > > To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install > > a SSH application on the Windows computer. PuTTY is a free > > example, and is available at: > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > > AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his > WinXP Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I > think there is an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for > Win32 that runs on XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but > the original poster may not want that much added to the XP system). > > http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/ You're right -- good catch. Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:35:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAAF16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:35:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8972343D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050322213527.TXGR7277.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:35:27 -0500 From: To: , Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <42407DB5.5050904@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Router/Firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:35:29 -0000 This is covered in detail at http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Aperez Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:19 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Router/Firewall? Hi: I am trying to set up a router/firewall with Freebsd 5.3 this is my information: Winxp and Freebsd machine connected to Firewall machine using a hub Firewall has two ethernet cards: card1: dc0 connected to cable internet using DHCP card 2: rl0 setup to use 192.168.1.1 I can connect to the internet from the firewall: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.con successfull I can ping from Firewall to the other two machines (WinXP and FreeBSD) I can ping from XP to FreeBsd and Firewall I can pin from FreeBSD to XP and Firewall Here is the problem: I cant connect to internet from neither XP nor FreeBSD machine Here is my rc.conf from the firewall machine: gateway_enable="YES" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ipfilter_enable="YES" ipmon_enable="YES" ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" ipnat_enable="YES" ipfs_enable="YES" Can anyabody tell me what I am missing? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:40:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8E816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA01043D58 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gwk@rahn-koltermann.de) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DDr74-0007xy-00; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:40:34 +0100 Received: from [217.232.141.225] (helo=hunter.localnet) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1DDr73-00032Z-00; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:40:33 +0100 From: "Georg-W. Koltermann" To: Remington In-Reply-To: <1111296475.3593.0.camel@baby> References: <1111277436.1092.11.camel@localhost.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com> <1111296475.3593.0.camel@baby> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-ISC2T3uOPz0MlL5jigGk" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:40:45 +0100 Message-Id: <1111527645.4010.5.camel@localhost.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:90bcaad5e51ecc993b2919ba4b74e6dc X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: boris@brooknet.com.au Subject: Re: Windows Mobile connected via uppc-kmod, anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:40:37 -0000 --=-ISC2T3uOPz0MlL5jigGk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 21:27 -0800, Remington wrote: > I have this working successfully with a Dell Axim PDA. Please attach > relevant logs and conf files Done. I hope the attachment makes it through the spam filters. -- Regards, Georg. > > On Sun, 2005-03-20 at 01:10 +0100, Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to connect my BlueMedia PDA (rebrand of Yakumo Delta 300 > > GPS) to FreeBSD 5.3 using the uppc-kmod port. > > > > I am having problems to get the connection up. The ppp log shows > that > > the link is established briefly but then immediately disconnects. > It > > never makes it to talk to dccm. > --=-ISC2T3uOPz0MlL5jigGk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:43:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B70016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:43:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avc230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.36.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6830343D68 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:42:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MLgl76016777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:42:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <4240915B.1090605@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:42:51 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050314) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alfredoj69@gmail.com References: <42407DB5.5050904@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42407DB5.5050904@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/779/Tue Mar 22 13:34:41 2005 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Router/Firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:43:02 -0000 Aperez wrote: > Hi: > > I am trying to set up a router/firewall with Freebsd 5.3 this is my > information: > > Winxp and Freebsd machine connected to Firewall machine using a hub > > Firewall has two ethernet cards: card1: dc0 connected to cable internet > using DHCP > card 2: rl0 setup to use > 192.168.1.1 > > I can connect to the internet from the firewall: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.con > successfull > I can ping from Firewall to the other two machines (WinXP and FreeBSD) > I can ping from XP to FreeBsd and Firewall > I can pin from FreeBSD to XP and Firewall OK, it appears your internal network is working. Did you set 'defaultrouter' on FreeBSD and XP (whatever it may be called on Windows) to 192.168.1.1 (IP of the gateway)? > Here is the problem: I cant connect to internet from neither XP nor > FreeBSD machine > > Here is my rc.conf from the firewall machine: > > gateway_enable="YES" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ipfilter_enable="YES" > ipmon_enable="YES" > ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" > ipnat_enable="YES" What rules do you have in ipfilter and ipnat? Have you enabled NAT? > ipfs_enable="YES" > > Can anyabody tell me what I am missing? Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD7616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (w094.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB3E43D49 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880AE21D6 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E85A214D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from satchel.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MLk7ru001942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell@satchel.alerce.com) Received: (from hartzell@localhost) by satchel.alerce.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2MLk72s001939; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hartzell) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16960.37406.967958.674824@satchel.alerce.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:46:06 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <424087C3.4050300@web.de> References: <16960.24143.401368.927252@satchel.alerce.com> <424062B0.4090802@web.de> <424087C3.4050300@web.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Problems building jails under RELENG_5_3 (5.3-RELEASE-p5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:46:05 -0000 George Hartzell writes: > [...] > Google and the freebsd-questions archives show several other people > reporting the problem, but I havn't seen anyone post a solution. Pardon my following up to my own post, but in the interest of having a solution in the archives, here's a shar file of two diffs that'll make it work as documented in the jail man page. The problem seems to be some changes to /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 that were quickly fixed on the RELENG_5 branch but never included back into the RELENG_5_3 branch. I grabbed those two files from the FreeBSD CVS repository via the web interface, just after the fix for this problem. I moved them into /usr/src and they seem to work fine. The functional Makefile is version 1.306.2.1 and Makefile.inc1 is version 1.438.2.5. I'm including a shar file containing the diffs between my 5.3-RELEASE-p5 system and those files, hopefully it'll be useful to other folks. g. # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # Makefile.diff # Makefile.inc1.diff # echo x - Makefile.diff sed 's/^X//' >Makefile.diff << 'END-of-Makefile.diff' X2c2 X< # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile,v 1.306 2004/08/09 11:38:41 harti Exp $ X--- X> # $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/ncvs/src/Makefile,v 1.306.2.1 2004/11/08 19:38:31 ru Exp $ X87a88,94 X> _MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX!= /usr/bin/env -i \ X> PATH=${PATH} MAKEFLAGS="${.MAKEFLAGS}" ${MAKE} \ X> -f /dev/null -V MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX dummy X> .if !empty(_MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX) X> .error MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX can only be set in environment, not as a global\ X> (in /etc/make.conf) or command-line variable. X> .endif X147,148d153 X< .if defined(HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD) || defined(DESTDIR) X< .if make(world) X150c155,156 X< .endif X--- X> X> .if defined(HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD) || defined(DESTDIR) X245c251 X< # with reasonable chance of success, regardless of how old your X--- X> # with a reasonable chance of success, regardless of how old your X248,249c254,255 X< i386_mach= pc98 X< universe: X--- X> universe: universe_prologue X> universe_prologue: X253,254c259,264 X< .for arch in i386 sparc64 alpha ia64 amd64 X< .for mach in ${arch} ${${arch}_mach} X--- X> .for target in i386 i386:pc98 sparc64 alpha ia64 amd64 X> .for arch in ${target:C/:.*$//} X> .for mach in ${target:C/^.*://} X> universe: universe_${mach} X> .ORDER: universe_prologue universe_${mach} universe_epilogue X> universe_${mach}: X265c275 X< cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} ${JFLAG} buildkernels TARGET_ARCH=${arch} TARGET=${mach} X--- X> cd ${.CURDIR} && ${MAKE} buildkernels TARGET_ARCH=${arch} TARGET=${mach} X268a279,281 X> .endfor X> universe: universe_epilogue X> universe_epilogue: X277,278d289 X< .endif X< X285a297 X> .endif END-of-Makefile.diff echo x - Makefile.inc1.diff sed 's/^X//' >Makefile.inc1.diff << 'END-of-Makefile.inc1.diff' X2c2 X< # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.438.2.4.2.1 2004/10/24 09:24:25 scottl Exp $ X--- X> # $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.438.2.5 2004/11/08 19:38:31 ru Exp $ X93,99d92 X< _MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX!= env -i PATH=${PATH} MAKEFLAGS="${.MAKEFLAGS}" ${MAKE} \ X< -f /dev/null -V MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX dummy X< .if !empty(_MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX) X< .error MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX can only be set in environment, not as a global\ X< (in /etc/make.conf) or command-line variable. X< .endif X< X183,184c176 X< BMAKEENV= DESTDIR= \ X< INSTALL="sh ${.CURDIR}/tools/install.sh" \ X--- X> BMAKEENV= INSTALL="sh ${.CURDIR}/tools/install.sh" \ X189a182 X> DESTDIR= \ X196a190 X> DESTDIR= \ X204d197 X< DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} \ X208c201 X< WMAKE= ${WMAKEENV} ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc1 X--- X> WMAKE= ${WMAKEENV} ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} X669c662 X< cd ${.CURDIR}; ${CVS} -R -q update -rRELENG_5_3 -P -d X--- X> cd ${.CURDIR}; ${CVS} -R -q update -rRELENG_5 -P -d END-of-Makefile.inc1.diff exit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:49:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4E316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50103.mail.yahoo.com (web50103.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C998743D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4928 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 21:49:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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Minkovskii" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:04 -0000 Sure you can check out IP accountingit's a great tool for web hosters and such, and they have an pf module http://ipa-system.sourceforge.net/ Jorge Mario Mazo _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:51:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3499F16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-qfe0.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E025C43D54 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:51:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from [10.0.0.101] (cpe-66-8-191-104.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.8.191.104])j2MLpIFf014748; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42409355.80604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:51:17 -1000 From: Robert Marella User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <423F837A.4040807@daleco.biz> <5a3e2fef4c87a787c40a848794197483@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <5a3e2fef4c87a787c40a848794197483@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: Andrew Robinson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC won't DHCP or configure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:51:37 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 21, 2005, at 9:31 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> *If I'm wrong, it's Chuck's fault, heh heh.... > > > It's always my fault, even when it's not my fault. > (I must have done something. What did I do, again? :-) > I can take the pressure off of you Chuck. Call 1-900-BLAME-ME. Fifty cents per minute to hear sincere apologies and promises to do better. Groveling at additional expense. ;) Robert P.S. please do not call the above number as I have no idea if it works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:55:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8C16A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1366943D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:54:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 6450 invoked by uid 207); 22 Mar 2005 21:54:56 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.224):. Processed in 0.967736 secs); 22 Mar 2005 21:54:56 -0000 Received: from dialup224.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.224]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Mar 2005 21:54:54 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MLsfoP000926; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:54:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2MLseWl000925; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:54:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:54:40 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andreas Davour Message-ID: <20050322215440.GA821@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:05 -0000 On 2005-03-22 21:07, Andreas Davour wrote: > > I have an odd problem. I can't get any 8-bit characters to show up > after an upgrade. > > On the console nothing happens after I run kbdmap and choose Swedish > ISO-8859-1. It just beeps, and prints the non-Swedish characters like > before. > > In KDE, after having added my own xmodmap to the .xinitrc file, I > though that they might appear. No such luck. Even after setting the > keyboard layout on Control Panel/Regional/Keyboard Layout to Swedish > do they not appear. > > Oddly enough, in emacs everything looks like it should! > > What am I missing, and what didn't I do after the upgrade? You have probably forgotten to set the locale related stuff correctly in your environment. What does the following in one of your shells? % env | grep LANG % env | grep LC_ - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:55:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2409E16A4EF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D61543D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Mar 2005 21:55:07 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 22:55:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:54:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <005401c52f22$4a823d10$7301a8c0@nquitlaptop> In-Reply-To: <005401c52f22$4a823d10$7301a8c0@nquitlaptop> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5359146.lEK6FEjkrj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503222254.52969@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Aaron Trumm Subject: Re: FreeBSD HOWTO: Software Mirror System Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:10 -0000 --nextPart5359146.lEK6FEjkrj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 22. M=E4rz 2005 22:01 schrieb Aaron Trumm: > Hello is anybody there? I don't know if I'm subscribed... > > I have a question...is this a typo?: > > gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad6 > > I get to that step and get the message "class not found" > > should it be?: > > gmirror insert boot /dev/ad6? You have already setup (with gmirror label) a mirror named gm0 right? What does 'gmirror list gm0' tell? Anyway, you'll find an answer in the very well written man page, like usual= =20 for FreeBSD man pages ;) =2DHarry > > or something? > > --signed, > Confused > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart5359146.lEK6FEjkrj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCQJQsBylq0S4AzzwRAucEAJ9g3LqJw6IQEf2L2jEPDF2Mm3jbaQCeNymU /Lcm022w7YKLN9WStJeDcSg= =PKrg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5359146.lEK6FEjkrj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:56:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A226216A4EE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:56:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.pinboard.com (mail.pinboard.com [194.209.195.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3824943D5E for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:56:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kurt@pinboard.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost)UUCP id WAA84853; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:56:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kurt@pinboard.com (kurt@pinboard.com)) (client-IP ) X-PBD-Envelope-From: kurt@pinboard.com X-PBD-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: (from kurt@localhost) (8.9.3p2-20030920/8.9.3/20011223-00-KK) id WAA64610; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:10:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kurt (kurt)) (client-IP ) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:10:21 +0100 From: pbdlists@pinboard.com To: Doug Paquette Message-ID: <20050322221021.A62491@pinboard.com> Mail-Followup-To: pbdlists@pinboard.com, Doug Paquette , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050322180848.72585.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20050322180848.72585.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com>; from dcpaq2@yahoo.com on Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:08:48AM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD and HP's Integrated Lights Out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:56:57 -0000 As far as I know, basic iLO features are not OS dependent at all. But if you need a license, you're using advanced features; basic support is included with the server. Possibly you want to get to a graphic display? If you can do with access to a text terminal you should be fine. Switching to a text terminal via a SSH session to iLO can, for example, be done by assigning CTRL-ALT-F1 to say CTRL-T in iLO itself. On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:08:48AM -0800, Doug Paquette wrote: > Group, > > Is there anyone here who knows if HP's Integrated > Lights out card on a Proliant DL380 G3 will for sure > work with Free BSD? > > I beleive it will from the last time I tried the > trial, but that was 8 months ago and I cannot remember > if it did or not, and I have already used up my 30 day > trial, and HP doesn't know how to get me more trial > time. I hate to buy the licencing pack without knowing > for sure. > > Can anyone help me with this? > > Thanks > > Doug > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:02:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3209816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C301843D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 73D6148BC; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:02:50 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s149512; Tue, 22 Mar 05 23:02:40 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16C448CA; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:02:40 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 24B0538012; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:02:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239A35C002; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:02:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:02:40 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050322215440.GA821@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20050322215440.GA821@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:54 -0000 Thanks for you response! On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> In KDE, after having added my own xmodmap to the .xinitrc file, I >> though that they might appear. No such luck. Even after setting the >> keyboard layout on Control Panel/Regional/Keyboard Layout to Swedish >> do they not appear. >> >> Oddly enough, in emacs everything looks like it should! >> >> What am I missing, and what didn't I do after the upgrade? > > You have probably forgotten to set the locale related stuff correctly in > your environment. What does the following in one of your shells? > > % env | grep LANG > % env | grep LC_ Nothing at all. Though, I never did fiddle with locales before the upgrade either. In KDE I have configured the locale as Swedish, and the date, currency and those things look ok. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5E616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E3A443D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmk0@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bmk0@pacbell.net@67.174.233.252 with plain) by smtp818.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 21:58:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4240951B.9010005@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:58:51 -0800 From: "Brian M. Kincaid" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: emergent msdosfs problems, errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:10:24 -0000 Hello FreeBSD Collective Consciousness, I run a dual-boot FreeBSD 6.0-Current/WinXP Pro system. The FreeBSD NTFS driver can't write files, and can only read files less than 2GB in size, so I have been using a FAT32 disk (Drive D:) mounted using mount_msdosfs successfully for several years for file transfer between the FreeBSD and WinXP "personalities" of my system. Just recently, after some hardware changes in my machine (new SATA disks for the FreeBSD personality) and rebuilding of world and kernel, the MSDOS file system has become unreliable, with directories and files mixed up, and "find ." broken with various error messages. Also, fsck_msdosfs complains about bad signatures in the boot block. After a clean reboot, doing "find ." on the FAT32 disk works without errors. Running "tar" to try to create a backup of the FAT32 disk fails, though, and after that "find ." returns errors "find: fts_read: No such file or directory" and files and directories on the FAT32 disk appear to be mixed up or corrupted. In the WinXP world, the FAT32 disk is just fine, thank you. All this is new behavior, things have been working for several years. I think the FreeBSD msdosfs driver is failing somehow. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:16:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C5516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A1143D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 11721 invoked by uid 207); 22 Mar 2005 22:16:31 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.224):. Processed in 0.97608 secs); 22 Mar 2005 22:16:31 -0000 Received: from dialup224.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.224]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Mar 2005 22:16:30 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MMGOff001158; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:16:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2MMGNKn001157; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:16:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:16:23 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andreas Davour Message-ID: <20050322221622.GB821@gothmog.gr> References: <20050322215440.GA821@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:34 -0000 On 2005-03-22 23:02, Andreas Davour wrote: >On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>In KDE, after having added my own xmodmap to the .xinitrc file, I >>>though that they might appear. No such luck. Even after setting the >>>keyboard layout on Control Panel/Regional/Keyboard Layout to Swedish >>>do they not appear. [...] >> >>You have probably forgotten to set the locale related stuff correctly in >>your environment. What does the following in one of your shells? >> >> % env | grep LANG >> % env | grep LC_ > > Nothing at all. Though, I never did fiddle with locales before the > upgrade either. In KDE I have configured the locale as Swedish, and the > date, currency and those things look ok. This is probably what's causing you trouble. FWIW, using the XKB input extension here, I noticed that the X server fails to get/output any 8-bit character until I correctly set my environment in the login shell or my ``.xinitrc'' file. For instance, for Greek text input, I use: [-- .xinitrc file --] % # Clear all existing locale environment. % __junk="" % unset __junk `env | sed -n -E '/^(LANG|LC_[A-Z]+)=.*$/ s/=.*$//p'` % export LANG='C' % export LC_CTYPE='el_GR.ISO8859-7' % export LC_COLLATE='el_GR.ISO8859-7' % % # Finally, fire up the window manager. % exec wmaker [-- /etc/X11/xorg.conf --] % Section "InputDevice" % Identifier "Keyboard0" % Driver "keyboard" % Option "XkbRules" "xorg" % Option "XkbModel" "pc105" % % # Support for Greek input. You must also have a matching locale % # setup in the environment of your xinit process. % Option "XkbLayout" "us,el" % Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" % EndSection The xorg.conf stuff fails to work if I comment out the locale settings in my .xinitrc file. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:19:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6237316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03B7143D46 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bmk0@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bmk0@pacbell.net@67.174.233.252 with plain) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2005 22:19:28 -0000 Message-ID: <424099EF.6010700@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:19:27 -0800 From: "Brian M. Kincaid" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: emergent msdosfs problems, errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:29 -0000 Hello again, Ah Hah! I noticed the following in the "dmesg" output: atapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdc7f,0xdca0-0xdcaf, 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xff7c0000-0xff7dffff,0xff7ff000-0xff7fffff irq 3 at device 7. 0 on pci2 atapci0: failed: rid 0x20 is memory, requested 4 Can anyone tell me what the "failed:" message means? Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:22:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A70316A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:22:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se (pernis.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0C43D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:22:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id C3216180; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:22:44 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s332; Tue, 22 Mar 05 23:22:35 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE82D10C; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:22:35 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id D555C38012; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:22:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5E5C002; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:22:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:22:35 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050322221622.GB821@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20050322221622.GB821@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:22:47 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> You have probably forgotten to set the locale related stuff correctly in >>> your environment. What does the following in one of your shells? >>> >>> % env | grep LANG >>> % env | grep LC_ >> >> Nothing at all. Though, I never did fiddle with locales before the >> upgrade either. In KDE I have configured the locale as Swedish, and the >> date, currency and those things look ok. > > This is probably what's causing you trouble. > > FWIW, using the XKB input extension here, I noticed that the X server > fails to get/output any 8-bit character until I correctly set my > environment in the login shell or my ``.xinitrc'' file. > > For instance, for Greek text input, I use: [snip] Thanks! I'll try to set some locale settings in my .xinitrc and see if that solves anything. I don't use xorg, since I have been using XFree86 since the early 1990-ies and don't want to learn it all over again. Maybe that's what troubling my setup. Now I'll just wait for another long compile, and then shut down X and try this out. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:23:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3816A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:23:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393F843D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:23:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7C5585693; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:53:12 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:53:12 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Subhro Message-ID: <20050322222312.GK79501@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <42404529.381e2d59.300b.ffff8fd4@mx.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42404529.381e2d59.300b.ffff8fd4@mx.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:23:17 -0000 --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since you mention mail etiquette, 1. If you have an issue with mail format, reply privately. Yes, I'm violating this rule here, but only as a followup. 2. Please don't "bottom post". It's just as irritating as "top posting". Please trim messages to the minimum length that maintains the context. If you're referring to the message as a whole rather than its content, it's appropriate to put the comments at the top. 3. Please also don't mangle messages. Your quoting algorithm makes spurious short lines with incorrect quotation levels: >>> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i f= ind >> it's >>> faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you need is X >> running >>> and: You can read more about these and other topics at http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html. They will also explain why you have made a poor choice of MUA. Greg On Tuesday, 22 March 2005 at 21:47:37 +0530, Subhro wrote: >=20 >=20 >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nick Pavlica >> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 21:39 >> To: daniel >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely >>=20 >> VNC works very well for me, good suggestion! >>=20 >> --Nick >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:02:48 -0500, daniel >> wrote: >>> On March 22, 2005 10:54 am, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >>>> I have this big curse that I have to access the office computer from >>>> home. The office PC runs WinXP Home, not Professional. >>>> I have turned the Internet upside-down trying to get an app that will >>>> enable me access the goddamn XP desktop, using something like >> krdesktop, >>>> from home. Something that can run on the Windows XP and provide me >>>> access to it's desktop from a FreeBSD box running KDE. >>>=20 >>> i'd suggest vnc: >>> http://www.realvnc.com/ >>> http://www.tightvnc.com/ >>>=20 >>> you use realvnc to install the server, then tightvnc to connect (i find >> it's >>> faster than the normal vnc client. then to connect all you need is X >> running >>> and: >>>=20 >>> $ vncviewer >>>=20 >>> security note: >>> vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any >> ports you >>> open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even better, try a >> knocking >>> daemon. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> i hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied >>> corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial >> of >>> strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. >>> - thomas Jefferson, 1816 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 > Please do not Top Post. Its kinda irritating. :-( >=20 > Indian Institute of Information Technology > Subhro Sankha Kar > Block AQ-13/1, Sector V > Salt Lake City > PIN 700091 > India -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQJrQIubykFB6QiMRApf2AJ9ZRsOpXfWwqojvV041ELX/jq0uKQCfXiWO 87Bm5yFkrAFfpejWD2iVIFU= =k+PT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x1F0m3RQhDZyj8sd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:32:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:32:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avc230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.36.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47E43D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2MMWIna019191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:32:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <42409CF6.9010001@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:32:22 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050314) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alfredoj69@gmail.com References: <42407DB5.5050904@gmail.com> <4240915B.1090605@orchid.homeunix.org> <4240957A.9030206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4240957A.9030206@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/779/Tue Mar 22 13:34:41 2005 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Router/Firewall? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:32:24 -0000 [please cc freebsd-questions, someone may be interested, too] Aperez wrote: > Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > >> Aperez wrote: >> >> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I am trying to set up a router/firewall with Freebsd 5.3 this is my >>> information: >>> >>> Winxp and Freebsd machine connected to Firewall machine using a hub >>> >>> Firewall has two ethernet cards: card1: dc0 connected to cable internet >>> using DHCP >>> card 2: rl0 setup to use >>> 192.168.1.1 >>> >>> I can connect to the internet from the firewall: ping -c 3 www.yahoo.con >>> successfull >>> I can ping from Firewall to the other two machines (WinXP and FreeBSD) >>> I can ping from XP to FreeBsd and Firewall >>> I can pin from FreeBSD to XP and Firewall >>> >> >> >> OK, it appears your internal network is working. >> >> Did you set 'defaultrouter' on FreeBSD and XP (whatever it may be >> called on Windows) to 192.168.1.1 (IP of the gateway)? >> >> >> >> >>> Here is the problem: I cant connect to internet from neither XP nor >>> FreeBSD machine >>> >>> Here is my rc.conf from the firewall machine: >>> >>> gateway_enable="YES" >>> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" >>> ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" >>> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >>> ipfilter_enable="YES" >>> ipmon_enable="YES" >>> ipmon_flags="-Dsvn" >>> ipnat_enable="YES" >>> >> >> >> What rules do you have in ipfilter and ipnat? Have you enabled NAT? >> >> >> >> >>> ipfs_enable="YES" >>> >>> Can anyabody tell me what I am missing? >>> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Karol >> >> >> > Hi > > I did set up Winxp to use 192.168.1.1 as gateway and I put > defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 in the Freebsd machine. > > I dont have rules for ipfilter because I was trying to see if there was > connectivity box---firewall---internet. > Do I have to have ipnat rules in oder for the machines to connect to the > internet? Yes. NAT is not working yet. With ipnat_enable="YES" you've just enabled ipnat but you didn't tell it what to do yet. Something like this would do: > map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 0/32 portmap tcp/udp auto # NAT for LAN +port mapping > map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 0/32 # NAT for LAN (icmp) But keep in mind I no longer use ipfilter/ipnat. Please check manpage for ipnat(1). Also handbook section: 24.5.14 NAT http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-ipf.html > Dind't I enable natd by putting "ipnat_enable="YES"" or do I have to put this > instead natd_enable="YES"? 'natd' is another way to do NAT. You'll need only one of them. And ipnat just doesn't do NAT yet. Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 22:35:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439E16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:35:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from titan.open-networks.net (dsl-202-173-176-254.qld.westnet.com.au [202.173.176.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA6E43D4C for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by titan.open-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CCC201 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:16 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <42409DA3.8090801@open-networks.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:15 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041023) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installing 4.10 AND 5.3 on one system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:35:19 -0000 is it possible to install 4.10 and 5.3 on a single system? i'm need them for testing a various times but i've only got the one system for them both. i tried myself, but i ended up with getting "not ufs" error msg after the boot prompt, it did show 2 freebsd options however. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:23:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05116A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:23:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctb-mesg7.saix.net (ctb-mesg7.saix.net [196.25.240.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42243D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:23:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from netsphere.ournet.co.za (wblv-146-198-213.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.198.213]) by ctb-mesg7.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6211E50 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:23:02 +0200 (SAST) Received: from pmx01.ournet.co.za ([198.19.0.73] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DDsiD-0001Ld-rT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:23:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=netphobia) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DDsiA-0001LZ-qj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:22:58 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c52f36$1d963590$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:23:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: 192.168.1.10 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: date change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:23:09 -0000 Lo all, Firstly, I am well aware of the implications, risks, and everything else = associated with this... Unfortunately due to means out of my control, I = have no alternative, and quite frankly, this is on a very secure system = where no one has access to.... :> Right. How / what do I change (I presume this is kernel level) in order to = allow root AND normal users to be able to set the system date via the = 'date' command? I would actually prefer to juse allow uid 0 (root) plus = one additional uid to be able to change it. I had a look at /usr/src/bin/date but couldn't really find anything = there - hence, I am presuming the limitation is coming from the kenrel. If anyone can be of some aid, I'll appreciate it allot. This is = currently on a 4.10 system, I will more than likely upgrade it to = 5.x-STABLE in the near future. Regards, Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:30:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DAA16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:30:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55D643D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fewjr@adelphia.net) Received: from homevwz5ek429r ([69.174.146.250]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050322233032.RZFN4618.mta13.adelphia.net@homevwz5ek429r>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01c52f37$290494c0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> From: "Francis Whittington" To: "Chris Hill" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:30:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: more info again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:30:34 -0000 Hi Chris, I knew that diagram was going to juggled.....sorry. All the IP = addresses were assigned by DHCP. I did not do anything manually. I do = have good news though. I am going to follow this guide. Thanks to the = other person who suggested it. http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php=20 I have read it and even though I am using 5.3, it seems to make sense to = me to do it step by step this way. So instead of trying to setup a stand = alone work station to learn on, I will make it a gateway router. Thats = what I wanted to do in the first place. As a matter of fact, a couple of = years ago someone on Linuxhelp (radiogeo.....good ole George), helped me = setup a Slackware router/firewall box out of a 486DX 50. It worked = great. My main computer took a dump and I never hooked the router back = up when the box was built. So after a couple of years I am back at = trying this UNIX thing.=20 I'll let you know how its going from time to time if thats ok. I = have only one question about this. If I still want to use my wireless = router as a switch.....will it work? Thanks, Buddy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:31:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD8516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:31:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C6E43D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (reader.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2MNVTAH004150 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:31:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4240ABC2.600@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:35:30 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Thunderbird/1.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:31:33 -0000 Anthony Atkielski skrev: > Show me that it's not a bug in FreeBSD first. What bios version is it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:33:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D817716A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E5E43D48 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (webmail14-en1 [10.13.10.120]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2MNXjmS006831; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail14 (localhost [127.0.0.1])j2MNXiAj008730; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:33:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9846002.1111534423750.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:33:43 -0900 From: Peter Giessel To: Chris Knipe in-reply-to: <002f01c52f36$1d963590$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit references: <002f01c52f36$1d963590$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> X-Originating-IP: 158.145.111.132/instID=70 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: date change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:33:46 -0000 On 3/22/2005 14:23, Chris Knipe seems to have typed: > How / what do I change (I presume this is kernel level) in order to > allow root AND normal users to be able to set the system date via > the 'date' command? I would actually prefer to juse allow uid 0 > (root) plus one additional uid to be able to change it. sounds like a perfect job for /usr/ports/security/sudo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:34:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F1C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:34:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2650C43D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:34:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7459B514DA; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:34:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:34:19 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chip Wiegand Message-ID: <20050322233419.GA32532@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1 doesn't exist? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:34:20 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 01:09:13PM -0800, Chip Wiegand wrote: > I am trying to compile phpmyadmin and it stops with error 1 because it=20 > cannot find pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1. I have check the fbsd site and don't se= e=20 > it listed in the ports tree. I then downloaded version=20 > pdflib-lite-6.0.1pl1.tar.gz and put it in the distfiles directory, but=20 > making phpmyadmin still fails, same error. I then renamed the file to=20 > pdflib-lite-6.0.0pl1.tar.gz and it still fails, same error. What to do? Zeroth, make sure your ports collection is up-to-date. First, show us the real error, don't describe it to us second hand. Kris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQKt7Wry0BWjoQKURAmQjAJwKq3y8i0n+MTMuvKRccQwDiCrr5gCgnNPR j3jzQje4rmV+d2RQzmwiFMM= =LKz6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:38:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB4B16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:38:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 351E743D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:38:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25072 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 23:38:06 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=CigiP9BWl4snat/Zc40pKzoHw7U6WT6vs8ReFVKQtVJKhD268K4gnp5QGJcbdnYUiu6rTIuNWAbt4XpwePLL9ZApN5DgrtBbnyr0uPlE85kvae5wmXcTcwHV5hR/s2WvWTc9WXIhwghmBOqSWAFh4+zlhn2XuHHPioITaMnTYQc= ; Message-ID: <20050322233806.25070.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:38:05 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: AMD64 very slow! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:38:06 -0000 I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system run with 85% load. How could be so slow? What tuning extra is needed for amd64 kernels? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:45:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EC616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:45:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctb-mesg2.saix.net (ctb-mesg2.saix.net [196.25.240.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28ED443D41 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:45:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from netsphere.ournet.co.za (wblv-146-198-213.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.198.213]) by ctb-mesg2.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B98222FF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:44:57 +0200 (SAST) Received: from pmx01.ournet.co.za ([198.19.0.73] helo=netsphere.ournet.co.za) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DDt3Q-0001Pd-so for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:44:57 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=netphobia) by netsphere.ournet.co.za with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1DDt3Q-0001PZ-pf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:44:56 +0200 Message-ID: <002001c52f39$2f022c00$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> From: "Chris Knipe" To: References: <002f01c52f36$1d963590$0a01a8c0@ops.cenergynetworks.com> <9846002.1111534423750.JavaMail.pgiessel@mac.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:45:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: 192.168.1.10 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.3.10.17 Subject: Re: date change X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:45:03 -0000 > On 3/22/2005 14:23, Chris Knipe seems to have typed: >> How / what do I change (I presume this is kernel level) in order to >> allow root AND normal users to be able to set the system date via >> the 'date' command? I would actually prefer to juse allow uid 0 >> (root) plus one additional uid to be able to change it. > > sounds like a perfect job for > /usr/ports/security/sudo Never even thought about that... *slaps himself silly*. -- Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 23:50:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA7D16A4D0 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:50:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A6243D67 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ababurko@adelphia.net) Received: from mondoadmin ([24.75.44.254]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050322235056.TBKM4618.mta13.adelphia.net@mondoadmin> for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:50:56 -0500 Message-ID: <018901c52f3a$1bf2c1f0$bafea8c0@mondoadmin> From: "Bob Ababurko" To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:51:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: scp stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:50:58 -0000 Hello- I have two boxes that I am trying to transfer files between and for some = reasson I am getting annoting slow transfers. I am running = OpenSSH_3.8.1p1on the server end with freeBSD 5.3 and OpenSSH_3.5p1 with = freeBSD 4.9 on the client end. The connection keeps stalling and I am = not seeing any errors in /var/log/messages. The only sign is my loss of = hair.=20 How can I go about troubleshooting this? I have full control over these = boxen, so I can do whatever to fix this. thanks, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:05:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D41316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:05:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 255CB43D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2005 00:05:20 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 01:05:20 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:04:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050322233806.25070.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050322233806.25070.qmail@web90205.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1689991.kEpptzGzB5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503230105.07139@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Boris Spirialitious Subject: Re: AMD64 very slow! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:05:23 -0000 --nextPart1689991.kEpptzGzB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: > I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em > card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic > and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is > about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system run > with 85% load. How could be so slow? What tuning > extra is needed for amd64 kernels? 200kB/s sounds like misconfigured duplex/negotiation mode. But why don't you try FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1? Many performance improvements were= =20 achieved and stability is given in the -STABLE branch (BETA1 is a relese of= =20 =46reeBSD 5-STABLE) =2DHarry > > Boris > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1689991.kEpptzGzB5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCQLKyBylq0S4AzzwRAp4ZAKCNz+TGfV4eKPTORFgK5OruR38FcwCffu6Q hNyAVDMgl2omaQXjZB6eb3k= =kgMA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1689991.kEpptzGzB5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:07:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24C616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97B3B43D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2005 00:07:45 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 01:07:45 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:07:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <018901c52f3a$1bf2c1f0$bafea8c0@mondoadmin> In-Reply-To: <018901c52f3a$1bf2c1f0$bafea8c0@mondoadmin> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2405799.TUE4Ma8uy2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503230107.32876@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Bob Ababurko Subject: Re: scp stalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:47 -0000 --nextPart2405799.TUE4Ma8uy2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 00:51 schrieb Bob Ababurko: > Hello- > > I have two boxes that I am trying to transfer files between and for some > reasson I am getting annoting slow transfers. I am running > OpenSSH_3.8.1p1on the server end with freeBSD 5.3 and OpenSSH_3.5p1 with > freeBSD 4.9 on the client end. The connection keeps stalling and I am not > seeing any errors in /var/log/messages. The only sign is my loss of hair. > > How can I go about troubleshooting this? I have full control over these How are they conneted, in the same subnet and same switch or routed subnets= or=20 over some WAN links? Does ftp work? Also active FTP? =2DHarry > boxen, so I can do whatever to fix this. > > thanks, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart2405799.TUE4Ma8uy2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCQLNEBylq0S4AzzwRAnCtAJ4ogCM06UJt9srU22PEHPEvgs89rgCdH2zb VYjfXZLyQFC/HyPuOVT8yiY= =mETo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2405799.TUE4Ma8uy2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:07:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5251D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB7043D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so21470rng for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:07:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j+VK600WoUSYsDN+OwwWGfNw8eMNNkhMMlV62Wf6FGoiWI3Xxv69vTjxAic8wYy2hf1OVgh9Pcl2RVh5uhYsbdr86M8wnONI81Yo8H8DnyNHKf9vnU/vmeABegDI/Vxyi1azNSKbuk6xtkN6pWZi9KxrmpPd/aEWeUGqGA5gxDI= Received: by 10.38.72.59 with SMTP id u59mr71086rna; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:07:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:07:47 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:07:48 -0000 How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using rc.conf ? Also how do you do a ipconfig /renew in freebsd ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:19:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A735016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:19:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B57F43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:19:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72521 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 00:19:48 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=KwUcGU0+QTg9kRlEUTiFT5x5sM/82lMw7Dj6IDxmYrQ5CKDoKAdyXdbNaCMg87p90EmgTIsDHqglTOdoV0kV48+n0uJUZL17FkfUMqi4UTnXDJFLvUO1/U61a0TDjlyWgSJMN83sObgkeZebsrYOAkFvC8El+qM31sfwsA2gj84= ; Message-ID: <20050323001948.72519.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:19:48 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Emanuel Strobl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: AMD64 very slow! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:19:48 -0000 -- Emanuel Strobl wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris > Spirialitious: > > I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em > > card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic > > and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is > > about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system run > > with 85% load. How could be so slow? What tuning > > extra is needed for amd64 kernels? > > 200kB/s sounds like misconfigured duplex/negotiation > mode. > But why don't you try FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1? Many > performance improvements were > achieved and stability is given in the -STABLE > branch (BETA1 is a relese of > FreeBSD 5-STABLE) I am sorry, I mean 200Mb/s. It is a controlled stream Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:23:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5267016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.thebunker.net [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C30043D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthew@thebunker.net) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BF7976EB; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gravitas.thebunker.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2N0NXwJ051873; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:33 GMT (envelope-from matthew@gravitas.thebunker.net) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by gravitas.thebunker.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2N0NToF051869; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:29 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:28 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: Roeland Hemsteede Message-ID: <20050323002328.GA64995@gravitas.thebunker.net> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Roeland Hemsteede , FreeBSD Questions References: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423F4457.4090309@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: phpmyadmin on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:23:42 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:01:59PM +0100, Roeland Hemsteede wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Im trying to install apache, php4, mysql and phpmyadmin on my computer. > Firstly I installed the packages for apache and php. Then I did "cd=20 > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean" but that=20 > returns with the following error >=20 > bash-3.00# cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin && make install distclean >=20 > You may use the following additional build option: >=20 > WITH_SUPHP=3Dyes Install appropriately for use with > the www/suphp port [default: no] >=20 > Unknown extension mysqli for PHP 4. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. > bash-3.00# >=20 > After this I installed the package php4-mysql I tried it again and got=20 > the same error. >=20 > Can anyone tell me wich things I need to do in order to get phpmyadmin=20 > installed and working? You need to run: # make config in the databases/phpmyadmin directory and *uncheck* the option for MYSQLI. Then you should be able to install successfully. Like it clearly says, you can only use the php mysqli extension with PHP5 and MySQL 4.1.x Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQkC3AJr7OpndfbmCAQLreAQAi6xTTGWGTDGi2Pn0ezslboyfaI7taD/m gtyF7/F0FDGihSJBMuMtNm/uM6Ldb0j0vkzNx7xpKNxVX5gbuXaMI+XoW20KfXpl bcIkyxgohsnLAWGfEBx4iOtGhu7Jsajw5xRCeMnmkMvOClakCzbbJJtZLCMoG70Y SBGAdjF4l+U= =dcl9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:24:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB2516A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:24:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4443D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9945 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDtfF-0007tw-M4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:24:01 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA2E2841A7; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:26:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C345F58D6D3; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:24:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:23:59 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Gert Cuykens Message-Id: <20050323012359.562ee6fe.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:24:03 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:07:47 +0100 Gert Cuykens wrote: > How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using > rc.conf ? just by using the line dhclient nv0 in another script or from command-line ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:25:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA6316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:25:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FCB43D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:25:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@usmstudent.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2N0P39W006584; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:25:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4240B75D.9080405@usmstudent.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:25:01 -0600 From: darren User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <423FA414.2050409@usmstudent.com> <4240500D.5080900@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4240500D.5080900@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh password delay -- SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@usmstudent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:25:09 -0000 I googled for it and came across this link: http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap5sec39.html darren Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > darren wrote: > >> order hosts,bind >> multi on > > > Glad you got it fixed. > > Where did you find this config documented? > > My 4.10 hosts.conf man page doesn't mention anything like this (and 5.3 > seems to have lost the file altogether -- at least there was no man page > for it). > > --Alex, curious > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C07816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0833043D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 7611 invoked by uid 207); 23 Mar 2005 00:27:10 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. 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Processed in 0.399542 secs); 23 Mar 2005 00:27:10 -0000 Received: from dialup224.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.224]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 23 Mar 2005 00:27:09 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2N0R3NR057957; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:27:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2N0R2FG057947; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:27:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:27:02 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050323002702.GA55820@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:27:13 -0000 On 2005-03-23 01:07, Gert Cuykens wrote: > How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using rc.conf ? By manually calling the dhclient(8) utility. > Also how do you do a ipconfig /renew in freebsd ? I don't know what an `ipconfig /renew' does, so no idea about this one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:33:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:33:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AC643D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:33:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2N0XFNm009428 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2N0XFnc009427 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:33:14 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:33:13 -0000 I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see F1: ??? F2: FreeBSD F3: FreeBSD F4: FreeBSD F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT bootloader, etc?) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:35:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790A216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:35:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A31143D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:35:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so27432rng for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:35:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZIPVOByhIstCa9EPlZL/o8ODP+PmO9rE7tN22gjAWe4Amc32Wzz78H64B3rCOVxSpWTCgCC4rWKADuD/2nyMsEbhO6wEhlGe4mKnlVw4F2W3f2fhgJQufDgczUDGga45APzth6DMvlnqaHeKruHzwlM5ui5gcyO1qLpa5fty+zE= Received: by 10.38.9.80 with SMTP id 80mr104086rni; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:35:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:35:45 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050323002702.GA55820@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050323002702.GA55820@gothmog.gr> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:35:46 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:27:02 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-23 01:07, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using rc.conf ? > > By manually calling the dhclient(8) utility. > > > Also how do you do a ipconfig /renew in freebsd ? > > I don't know what an `ipconfig /renew' does, so no idea about this one. > thx dhclient works :) I now have inet 0.0.0.0 How do you tell nv0 to release and renew its dhcp adress ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:40:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074F616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:40:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (skipjack.no-such-agency.net [64.142.114.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1A643D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:40:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jpp@cloudview.com) Received: from skipjack.no-such-agency.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011FC34D453; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (blackhole.no-such-agency.net [64.142.103.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by skipjack.no-such-agency.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D6434D436; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4240BB0C.3090204@cloudview.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:40:44 -0800 From: John Pettitt Organization: CloudView Photographic User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: <20050323002702.GA55820@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-AV-Checked: by skipjack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:40:48 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:27:02 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas > wrote: > > >>On 2005-03-23 01:07, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> >> >>>How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using rc.conf ? >>> >>> >>By manually calling the dhclient(8) utility. >> >> >> >>>Also how do you do a ipconfig /renew in freebsd ? >>> >>> >>I don't know what an `ipconfig /renew' does, so no idea about this one. >> >> >> > >thx dhclient works :) I now have inet 0.0.0.0 > >How do you tell nv0 to release and renew its dhcp adress ? >_______________________________________________ > > > man dhclient " The client normally doesn't release the current lease as it is not required by the DHCP protocol. Some cable ISPs require their clients to notify the server if they wish to release an assigned IP address. The -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE2516A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:51:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C71143D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:51:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) (209.6.197.67) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2005 19:51:32 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.91,112,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="13765259:sNHT25904308" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:52:19 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:51:34 -0000 Gert Cuykens writes: > How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using > rc.conf ? If rc.conf has the lines: network_interfaces="lo0 nv0 " ifconfig_nv0="" rc will look for /etc/start_if.nv0 and - if found - will execute the commands therein. A copy of mine (I use de0) is appended. Robert Huff #!/bin/sh -x # interface configuration file for RCN DHCP rm /var/db/dhclient.leases /sbin/dhclient de0 echo -n $? > /etc/dhc.err echo -n "= DHCLIENT exit status" >> /etc/dhc.err ifconfig de0 sleep 3 # since the rules are already segregated, use that file # 20040218 moved to ipfw.master and invoked from rc.conf:rc.firewall= # /etc/ipfw.set # sleep 3 natd -f /etc/natd.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 00:58:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:58:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C8D43D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:58:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 16583 invoked by uid 0); 23 Mar 2005 00:58:18 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 00:58:18 -0000 In-Reply-To: <1111507893.751.298.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <1111507893.751.298.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6d0f6ca428b7b2c085df02fdcaaff3be@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:58:14 -0600 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Peter Risdon Subject: Re: old scsi adapters and the benefits of open source [was: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:58:20 -0000 On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Peter Risdon wrote: > By contrast, I maintain a networked Windows machine that controls > plasma > cutting systems for a manufacturing business. It uses a serial port > connection to send cutting patterns to the plasma controller. The > serial > port communications software was custom-written and runs only on > versions of DOS that shipped with Windows up to and including 98. It is > specifically incompatible with Win ME and all the NT family including > XP > and 2000/2003. I don't have access to the source code either of the > custom application or any currently maintained version of Windows (of > course), so no hacked upgrades are possible and we have to run Win 98 - > which is desperately horrible and insecure in a networked environment. I don't use Vmware, but what you describe sounds like a good application for it. Run a Win98 virtual machine. Let a modern OS host, wrap and protect the virtual machine. Do all the networking with the host. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 01:48:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194C016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:48:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from qmail-relay-norm-0.netfirms.com (q1-relay-norm.netfirms.com [64.34.66.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A0C843D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:48:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@evdo-coverage.com) Received: (qmail 48276 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 01:30:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO XR10295) (69.227.201.225) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 01:30:20 -0000 Message-ID: <001701c52f49$f8843860$6501a8c0@XR10295> From: "bob evdo hsdpa wimax guy" To: "Robert Huff" , References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:45:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: ifconfig for wireless internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:48:55 -0000 wow... great ip config syntax... thanks! needed that too... X---------------- Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.html http://evdo-coverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 ste 102 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 >>> "Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service"(tm) >>> OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalommmmmmmm-------------------- ---------------------------------;-)---- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Huff" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: ifconfig > > Gert Cuykens writes: > > > How do you tell a device for example nv0 to be dhcp without using > > rc.conf ? > > If rc.conf has the lines: > > network_interfaces="lo0 nv0 " > ifconfig_nv0="" > > rc will look for /etc/start_if.nv0 and - if found - will > execute the commands therein. A copy of mine (I use de0) is > appended. > > > Robert Huff > > > #!/bin/sh -x > > # interface configuration file for RCN DHCP > > rm /var/db/dhclient.leases > > /sbin/dhclient de0 > echo -n $? > /etc/dhc.err > echo -n "= DHCLIENT exit status" >> /etc/dhc.err > > ifconfig de0 > sleep 3 > > # since the rules are already segregated, use that file > # 20040218 moved to ipfw.master and invoked from rc.conf:rc.firewall= > > # /etc/ipfw.set > # sleep 3 > > natd -f /etc/natd.conf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 01:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCCA16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:53:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from qmail-relay-norm-0.netfirms.com (q1-relay-norm.netfirms.com [64.34.66.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B01C43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@evdo-coverage.com) Received: (qmail 63931 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 01:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO XR10295) (69.227.201.225) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 01:35:19 -0000 Message-ID: <004101c52f4a$aa742170$6501a8c0@XR10295> From: "bob evdo hsdpa wimax guy" To: , "ayed samiha" References: <20050322133954.60191.qmail@web25801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20050322185046.GA83358@fw.farid-hajji.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:53:52 -0000 On sera plus facil si vous parles en englais.. parsce le majorite de experts on americaine... It would be easier for you to get help if you wrote in english... bob X---------------- Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.html http://evdo-coverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 ste 102 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 >>> "Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service"(tm) >>> OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalommmmmmmm-------------------- ---------------------------------;-)---- ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "ayed samiha" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Ethernet > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 02:39:54PM +0100, ayed samiha wrote: > > J'aime avoir une documentation (fichiers, directions...) sur > > l'impl?mentation de Ethernet sous FreeBSD > > Salut Ayed, > > la liste freebsd-questions@freebsd.org est anglophone. > > Ceci dit, vous pouvez consulter les sources directement. > FreeBSD supporte un grand nombre de cartes Ethernet. Il > suffit d'etudier un des "drivers". Par example: > > /usr/src/sys/dev/ed > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_* > > > Merci > > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:01:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C9716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:01:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F3F43D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:01:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (pool-151-199-89-235.roa.east.verizon.net [151.199.89.235]) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2N21q3h050355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:01:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (localhost.Chelsea-Ct.Org [127.0.0.1]) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2N21lCb072405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:01:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: (from paul@localhost) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2N21kMI072404 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:01:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org: paul set sender to paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu using -f From: Paul Mather To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050323002821.2CB8416A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050323002821.2CB8416A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:01:45 -0500 Message-Id: <1111543305.72259.26.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: Re: Accessing Windows XP Desktop (Home Edition) remotely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:01:56 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:26:54 -0500 (EST), "Ean Kingston" wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 02:18 pm, Christopher Nehren wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 2005-03-22, daniel scribbled these > >> > >> curious markings: > >> > security note: > >> > vnc is *not* encrypted and is not generally considered secure. any > >> > ports you open/forward should be directed to your ip only. even > >> > better, try a knocking daemon. > >> > >> This is why you set up an SSH tunnel between the two machines. The > >> Handbook (as always) shows how to do this, with examples. > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Christopher Nehren > > > > To forward a VNC session through SSH, the user will need to install a > > SSH application on the Windows computer. PuTTY is a free example, and > > is available at: > > > > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > > AFAIK Putty is a client only. The original user wanted to access his WinXP > Home system from FreeBSD. So, Putty isn't going to do it. I think there is > an OpenSSH implementation (both client and server) for Win32 that runs on > XP. I know the cygwin implementation works (but the original poster may > not want that much added to the XP system). > > http://www.cygwin.com/ and http://www.openssh.org/ I have successfully used the Win32 OpenSSH installer available via http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ to provide a SSH server on a remote Windows 2000 Professional system. That OpenSSH package can be installed via an installer to provide OpenSSH using a minimal requisite cygwin environment. The OpenSSH server can be run as a Windows service. Like the original poster, I wanted a way of using a Windows system remotely from FreeBSD. In my case, it was so I could remotely admin and troubleshoot a friend's Windows 2000 PC. As well as using the OpenSSH for Windows mentioned above, I used TightVNC (http://www.tightvnc.com/) for the VNC server on Windows and for the client on FreeBSD (installed via the net/tightvnc port). I restrict the VNC server to accept connections only from localhost, and use an SSH tunnel to encrypt all the VNC traffic between the two systems. (I can even start and stop the VNC server service remotely by issuing a "net start winvnc" and "net stop winvnc" via SSH to start and stop it, respectively.) I've found the setup to work well in practice. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:06:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1781416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC63D43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so7367wra for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QxpLwV5LdoAJpIEAkeocNYlNUXoQh2+YG1tgNYb77I16sn/tsiZ0nE98JVP4Li4FmOhUxx2Nl1t87p7iv11I8SnQ6ihIDa9cQgqkzwNgQ0yLTslq4x3PQXeVAYIY4elMqKB0/+kedNxOlK0wUz8dIg04cKVwLoz3Q/tsIN7Sy8Y= Received: by 10.54.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr153449wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf7224505032218061f87e06a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:06:01 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regarding Books X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:33 -0000 Dear sir, It is possible to get Books related to the FastIPsec in the FreeBSD. I really need this book or i want some documents related to this topic. So please suggest me where can i find FastIPsec related books or documents. I find some in the internet but it is just manual or HowTo's. I want the detail decumentation of the FastIPsec. Thanking you with regards Bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:06:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3616A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B58D43D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so7368wra for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QxpLwV5LdoAJpIEAkeocNYlNUXoQh2+YG1tgNYb77I16sn/tsiZ0nE98JVP4Li4FmOhUxx2Nl1t87p7iv11I8SnQ6ihIDa9cQgqkzwNgQ0yLTslq4x3PQXeVAYIY4elMqKB0/+kedNxOlK0wUz8dIg04cKVwLoz3Q/tsIN7Sy8Y= Received: by 10.54.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr153449wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf7224505032218061f87e06a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:06:01 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regarding Books X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:06:33 -0000 Dear sir, It is possible to get Books related to the FastIPsec in the FreeBSD. I really need this book or i want some documents related to this topic. So please suggest me where can i find FastIPsec related books or documents. I find some in the internet but it is just manual or HowTo's. I want the detail decumentation of the FastIPsec. Thanking you with regards Bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:07:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BABE16A4D0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59E943D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so8038wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:07:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p3grZG08iMy+cH7oxJTQNAk1zvGxCpRGK+12zwo0Ipdu2qS/yxRRfcWXjShJh+QKzL6qZ2tGjNYYV8PrrKV0F7wOkbCvzAnTZprebWyL6LFdj1BL8Qp5RG1mAitpgVMbWeMZ2d6kYcp4FzraTM7DSy+ImbgZxxLLoxOwgu+JnR8= Received: by 10.54.100.11 with SMTP id x11mr163038wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf7224505032218061f87e06a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:06:01 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regarding Books X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:31 -0000 Dear sir, It is possible to get Books related to the FastIPsec in the FreeBSD. I really need this book or i want some documents related to this topic. So please suggest me where can i find FastIPsec related books or documents. I find some in the internet but it is just manual or HowTo's. I want the detail decumentation of the FastIPsec. Thanking you with regards Bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:07:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6653216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F146543D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bhaban@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so8039wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:07:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p3grZG08iMy+cH7oxJTQNAk1zvGxCpRGK+12zwo0Ipdu2qS/yxRRfcWXjShJh+QKzL6qZ2tGjNYYV8PrrKV0F7wOkbCvzAnTZprebWyL6LFdj1BL8Qp5RG1mAitpgVMbWeMZ2d6kYcp4FzraTM7DSy+ImbgZxxLLoxOwgu+JnR8= Received: by 10.54.100.11 with SMTP id x11mr163038wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.20 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5bf7224505032218061f87e06a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:06:01 +0900 From: Bhaban Singh To: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regarding Books X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bhaban Singh List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:07:31 -0000 Dear sir, It is possible to get Books related to the FastIPsec in the FreeBSD. I really need this book or i want some documents related to this topic. So please suggest me where can i find FastIPsec related books or documents. I find some in the internet but it is just manual or HowTo's. I want the detail decumentation of the FastIPsec. Thanking you with regards Bhaban From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:30:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C9116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:30:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8A243D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445A9C63B64 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: lww0j82Bc07V1JfQDCtP5Q 1111545022 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-66-215.access.as9105.com [80.41.66.215]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552C856F785 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:30:02 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050322064559.GA1102@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050322064559.GA1102@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503230230.03214.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: NVIDIA + OS AGP + AMD CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:30:26 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 06:45, Bachelier Vincent wrote: > any idea to make agp of freebsd work ? Have you read /usr/X11R6/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README I suspect the answer is in there, but I'm not strongly motivated to find out, since I don't actually see any practical consequences of the error message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:31:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6116B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E943D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from [192.168.1.234] (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2N2VApa018356; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:31:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Message-ID: <4240D4EE.60004@vilot.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:31:10 -0700 From: Tom Vilot User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Risdon References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> In-Reply-To: <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:31:34 -0000 Peter Risdon wrote: >>Can you explain why? What is it about 4.11 vs 4.9 with regard to this issue? >> >> > >Just that it's an up-to-date release. > >PHP and its extensions do depend on bits of the base system. You are >using the very latest ported version, so far as I can see, with an out >of date world. > Okay, I suspect I'm going to have to bite the bullet. I must admit, tho, I have some irrational fears about upgrading the core system. 1. I've never done it before 2. The server in question is in Texas. I am in Colorado. 3. I would rather not have to rent KVM and reboot into single user mode ... but will if I must ... (( sigh )) If I'm going to upgrade the system, does it make sense to just go straight to 5.3? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:35:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6468216A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:35:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7E443D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2N2ZO0V026024; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:35:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:44:46 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:35:29 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have > a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. > > I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs > consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. > After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see > > F1: ??? > F2: FreeBSD > F3: FreeBSD > F4: FreeBSD > > F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system > error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. > Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT > bootloader, etc?) > > gary > > > > > Looks like you have 3 root "partitions" for FBSD and one for windows. I think you are dividing the disk up to soon. You only divide ad0 into ad0s1(w2k) and ad0s2(ufs). Then in the FBSD disk labeler you make /, swap, /usr, /tmp, etc.... So to recap it seems you have made ad0s1, ad0s2, ad0s3, and ad0s4 and the boot loader asks which you what to boot from. So there is no /usr(I guess) on ad0s2, you put it on ad0s3. Print out the steps from the handbook if you need to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:46:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B2816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:46:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092AC43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:46:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0906.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B49911C001E5 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:46:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0906.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8FA111C001E3 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:46:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050323024640588.8FA111C001E3@mwinf0906.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:46:40 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <110900121.20050323034640@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:46:42 -0000 Duo writes: > And, herein lies the main and core behavioral issue at play: He is upset, > because he is used to a system, which is more apt to fail "open", than > fail "closed". It's more complex than that: (1) I don't know if anything is failing or not, because the messages output by FreeBSD are undocumented, and nobody here has been able to tell me anything about what they mean. The mere output of messages does not necessarily indicate a failure. And unless someone can tell me what they mean, they are worse than useless to me. Why write an OS to output messages that are completely undocumented and unintelligible? That's even worse than not putting out any messages at all. It doesn't help anyone because nobody knows what the messages mean. (2) Unlike Windows NT, FreeBSD freezes the process doing the I/O when these messages appear, sometimes for 30 seconds or so, or longer. Windows NT never froze in that way. (3) Unlike Windows NT, FreeBSD occasionally crashes after printing the messages. Windows NT never crashed in that way. If you think these messages indicate a hardware failure, they you should be able to tell me exactly what they mean. Conversely, if you cannot tell me exactly what they mean, you don't know if they indicate a hardware failure or not--you're just guessing, like everyone else here. The behavior I'm seeing in FreeBSD strongly resembles that of a system that is encountering a hardware idiosyncrasy that it doesn't know how to deal with. I'm not at all convinced that there is a hardware problem. Looking at the messages gives me the impression that FreeBSD is attempting something that is not supported by the hardware, and simply takes for granted that it will work, and then gets confused when it doesn't. But I don't really know for sure, because nothing is documented, and nobody here knows anything. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:48:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F9616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vps.breathsense.com (vps.breathsense.com [64.105.194.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55CC443D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kkb@breathsense.com) Received: (qmail 54355 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 02:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (24.5.192.77) by vps.breathsense.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 02:48:04 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:48:04 -0800 From: Kurt Bigler To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: using procmail-3.22_4 pkg on FreeBSD 4.6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:06 -0000 I have a FreeBSD virtual server with this version: FreeBSD 4.6.1-RELEASE-p10 (VPSHOST) #3: Wed Aug 7 06:17:46 EDT 2002 Yesterday I acquired procmail-3.22_4 via pkg_add from the FreeBSD site. I don't know why I ended up with _4 rather than _5 but I had a lot of difficulty getting the package and I hope this is no issue. I'm not sure if there are requirements about coordinating versions of packages with versions of FreeBSD, I seem to recall that but can't find the info now. In any case, when I run formail (part of procmail) I get this error: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Just for laughs I created /libexec and in it symbolic link to ld-elf.so.1 which on my system is located in /usr/libexec. Upon doing that I get instead: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.3" not found at which point I gave up. Should I expect the pkg to work correctly on my FreeBSD 4.6.1? Please cc your reply to me directly. Thanks in advance. Thanks, Kurt Bigler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 02:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F75816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF27843D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A41831C00089 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:48:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 87DE11C00087 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:48:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050323024806556.87DE11C00087@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:48:06 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <973781050.20050323034806@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322120417.X94547@makeworld.com> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <626456216.20050322123909@wanadoo.fr> <475796164.20050322170853@wanadoo.fr> <20050322120417.X94547@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:48:08 -0000 RacerX writes: > Now - Stop tossing legacy hardware at a new OS. I tossed brand-new hardware at a new OS on the production machine, and that's not working, either. Just exactly what _is_ supported by the OS, if it can't handle new hardware and can't handle old hardware? -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:00:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B14016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A8843D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 438C01C00083 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:00:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A4C91C00082 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:00:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050323030011173.2A4C91C00082@mwinf1108.wanadoo.fr Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:00:10 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1536808142.20050323040010@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4240ABC2.600@bah.homeip.net> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <4240ABC2.600@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:12 -0000 Bernt Hansson writes: > What bios version is it? The BIOS version is GG.06.04. The Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra BIOS version is v1.2S3-HP. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:00:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4FA16A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984FE43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so48344rnf for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:00:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HglhZDOqMfyPOjAllxesCncUAQSwYTOb1goF93n3a30crFTyURM/Q9HsJN92yiGmlFLZvvN35fBm39LpexY4HpWWaIqtIgJURdJtMz+mU/bofG+dE4stRocDfrtZZ6n3XSaK1Paxxgm/v+6kgfmkyxlYOgi8zLjv3lQqDdiSpJM= Received: by 10.38.66.58 with SMTP id o58mr208407rna; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.11.61 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:00:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:00:27 -0500 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: Ben Goren In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <536aaddc7ccf28f11841b92275a4a868@trumpetpower.com> <219fcb686cc733510edef9798ca4c031@trumpetpower.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doug Richardson is (probably) back online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Constantine A. Murenin" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:00:32 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:45:10 -0700, Ben Goren wrote: > On 2005 Mar 21, at 4:47 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > In reading any document, one should never undoubtedly believe > > everything it says. :-) > > I don't believe you. I told ya! :-) P.S. I had a multiple-choice test in philosophy; in the true/false section of the test, the following question was given: The answer to this question is false. a. True b. False (c) 2004 Dr. Wisnewski. :-) Cheers, Constantine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:01:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5F216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81004.mail.yahoo.com (web81004.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 255ED43D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050323030112.61189.qmail@web81004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.149.79.150] by web81004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:01:12 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:01:12 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:14 -0000 Hello All, I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release, and Samba 3. I am unable to locate this file anywhere. Thank you, JP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:01:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40B216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vps.breathsense.com (vps.breathsense.com [64.105.194.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94F4343D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kkb@breathsense.com) Received: (qmail 55210 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 03:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (24.5.192.77) by vps.breathsense.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 03:01:43 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:01:44 -0800 From: Kurt Bigler To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: using procmail-3.22_4 pkg on FreeBSD 4.6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:01:45 -0000 on 3/22/05 6:48 PM, Kurt Bigler wrote: > I have a FreeBSD virtual server with this version: > > FreeBSD 4.6.1-RELEASE-p10 (VPSHOST) #3: Wed Aug 7 06:17:46 EDT 2002 > > Yesterday I acquired procmail-3.22_4 via pkg_add from the FreeBSD site. I > don't know why I ended up with _4 rather than _5 but I had a lot of difficulty > getting the package and I hope this is no issue. > > I'm not sure if there are requirements about coordinating versions of packages > with versions of FreeBSD, I seem to recall that but can't find the info now. > > In any case, when I run formail (part of procmail) I get this error: > > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found > > Just for laughs I created /libexec and in it symbolic link to ld-elf.so.1 > which on my system is located in /usr/libexec. > > Upon doing that I get instead: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libm.so.3" not found > > at which point I gave up. > > Should I expect the pkg to work correctly on my FreeBSD 4.6.1? I realize now that I should probably have posted this to the freebsd-ports list. Sorry for the noise, but also feel free to reply if you have any info. I will repost to the ports list. -Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:22:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CC616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54005.mail.yahoo.com (web54005.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C45A043D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:22:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27801 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 03:22:53 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=vXoxgTgHDXbGzRhc6S1mevMq5EoksiS1FaEt6EvtHb76peW/hUgODNraLMZcphPBwjjFLqgmXVNAqbismuTjTVtmIJkgF0uF2NFvOwJkPruFq6DneinLbXggWZOWPfY8AdR06qxHdbYtxuZxWtqgzFL28tku+65lq+dManealrw= ; Message-ID: <20050323032253.27799.qmail@web54005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:22:53 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:22:53 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: 4.11 without nameserver: "NO_BIND=true" is OK? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:22:54 -0000 Hi, I'm running 4.10 on a very old pentium-1: CPU: Pentium/P5 (57.58-MHz 586-class CPU) I have cvsup'ed the sources to 4.11, but I want to shorten the build world/kernel time. I have following in my /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE=true NO_PF=true NO_LPR=true NO_MODULES=true NO_BLUETOOTH=true NO_USB=true NO_VINUM=true NO_NIS=true NOGAMES=true NO_BIND=true This machine will not run a nameserver; it will query external nameservers for hostname resolution. Is the "NO_BIND=true" is that case? I ask this here, because I don't want to compile for days, and then end up with a not-working world compilation. Would you recommend any other make.conf settings? Thanks, Rob. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 03:32:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:32:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53910.mail.yahoo.com (web53910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F80943D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:32:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 38719 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 03:32:41 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=HREXtqZE04HAu7Sy4vnWV2oUzU41ZIuU9Jxa8ibu76ZeqveNzj4vLfxMgs4vyBdkT8F5wn149J8OcnFIp6jdS3TmSEPER89kc2h1BIe9Nzzx/P2vhHwcJZTRbo0y5dksp+UIS0Ke09xPwxDYJNrya1XmON40msoH9nttDCea3MM= ; Message-ID: <20050323033241.38717.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:32:41 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:32:42 -0000 Hello, While testing 5.3, I deliberately cut power to the box and powered up. Much to my surprise, I receive the following error: error 16 lba invalid format FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: No /kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: The disk is/was formatted as UFS2 (dangerously dedicated) with softupdates. If I enter a command, nothing happens: FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot:fsck -y FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)fsck boot: If I enter a question mark, I get a listing of the root filesystem's contents. (If the disk format were truly unknown, how is this possible?) This problem appears to be identical to the one posted by cell on 3/14/05, so this would seem to be a repeatable problem. Because this is a test box, I could just flatten it and reinstall, I would rather do a graceful recovery. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this would be appreciated. Note: Any suggestions involving using Release Disc 2 are problematic. For some reason, the iso will not burn; the process hangs immediately. I downloaded it from four different sites, including ftp.freebsd.org with identical results. (The other three disc images burn correctly.) Thanks for your time, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 04:18:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2B116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:18:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CEF43D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so44080wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:18:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rTCZI+zUUYR61c9mq1OXnyfZ4ivBvKTcWpEFxeMoOL0bT31e66r0KWFh98qDbybUpxtqP38KJxLy1cI9AELNmiuhuMwlUQYf8rOJjLGnrrX3e78SzMLKPCWIMKDdygQ7xdue/ZeevswmgcPhpy8Ot4MxbuOpF4Gp/umo6JTHX7I= Received: by 10.54.100.11 with SMTP id x11mr252494wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:18:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:18:33 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050323033241.38717.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050323033241.38717.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:18:34 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:32:41 -0800 (PST), stheg olloydson wrote: > Hello, > > While testing 5.3, I deliberately cut power to the box and > powered up. Much to my surprise, I receive the following error: > > error 16 lba > invalid format error 16 lba = 0x10 Uncorrectable CRC/ECC error > > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > boot: > No /kernel > Yup you did it the booting process can't find the kernel to boot. > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > boot: > > The disk is/was formatted as UFS2 (dangerously dedicated) with > softupdates. If I enter a command, nothing happens: > > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > boot:fsck -y > You can enter commands relevant to the booting process it is not a shell or something like that. > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)fsck > boot: > > If I enter a question mark, I get a listing of the root > filesystem's contents. (If the disk format were truly unknown, > how is this possible?) A question mark "?" Give a short listing of the files in the root directory of the default boot device, as a hint about available boot files. > This problem appears to be identical to the one posted by cell > on 3/14/05, so this would seem to be a repeatable problem. > Because this is a test box, I could just flatten it and > reinstall, I would rather do a graceful recovery. Any > suggestions on how to accomplish this would be appreciated. > Note: Any suggestions involving using Release Disc 2 are > problematic. For some reason, the iso will not burn; the process > hangs immediately. I downloaded it from four different sites, > including ftp.freebsd.org with identical results. (The other > three disc images burn correctly.) > > Thanks for your time, > > stheg > Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the following at the boot prompt 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader OR 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel If it works the you might have a chance to fix the problem. Somehow I seem to have forgoten what to do next. I'll check the handbook !!! -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 04:23:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF2116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:23:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0C743D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so37699wra for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ME6x0ind7MNJGuk8bLU/WzM+UWvpTr1z/OQW/U/BOysz03wHTp33g9HzsGKcj9xzP2jjJTtjN//d/R7w9HqmXR58O1AY1+PmD3f9QTEzKrnh6L5PDvMz/AUamodZKTogqriTBC9DlpMiX7YOPC6tX3GDOBA9nA9n1gSGX6qDvFE= Received: by 10.54.101.11 with SMTP id y11mr273160wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:23:32 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050323033241.38717.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:23:33 -0000 > Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the following at > the boot prompt > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > OR > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Ooops I guess the last one is 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel Sorry -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 04:24:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AFC16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:24:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy09.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E3543D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:24:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (nlpproxy09 [148.235.52.29]) by smtp.prodigy.net.mx (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDS0000HEX5O2@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:24:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from[201.128.224.59])Jul 14 2004))with ESMTP id <0IDS004BMEX5CF@smtp.prodigy.net.mx>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:24:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:24:47 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez In-reply-to: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503222124.47488.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 X-imss-version: 2.023 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:4 C:4 M:4 S:4 R:4 (8.0000 8.0000) References: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:24:49 -0000 El Mar 22 Mar 2005 08:34, Tom Vilot escribi=F3: > After I start X, I need to switch to a virtual console and log in as > root so that I can issue kbdcontrol -r fast. > > Is there a place I can set this so I don't have to do that anymore? in /etc/rc.conf add the next line keyrate=3D"fast" my rc.conf file has this lines for keyboard keymap=3D"lat-amer.iso.acc" keyrate=3D"fast" maps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 04:25:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E6143D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:25:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so45904wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:25:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pTH8PDzNUYbQo2CIt14mtWfMWi0on0FyouRPKDXoMLHZy45vEK13Hg71Yl3IixjIma8iAzL8b8Or/oSyK2tNa9SJNXQmAixqKiWb7ktmw9NrDJJNVxD9WrZBv5JkF5zUr++DlcW4uiV8+h/Icx5dG/XYwV0Xcfs5fbrt6HwYg44= Received: by 10.54.92.4 with SMTP id p4mr259559wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:25:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:25:02 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050323033241.38717.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:25:03 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:23:32 +0200, Abu Khaled wrote: > > Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the following at > > the boot prompt > > > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > OR > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel > > Ooops I guess the last one is 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel > Sorry > Oh man I hat keyboard shortcuts. just pasted the wrong one again. 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Yup this is the one... I hope -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 04:59:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BD016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:59:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C36D43D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so74044rna for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:59:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GnOpjryoqBz5qffm52+qbFo5+iVKOFtPl6VvFcAuVNViLa/3A5AvNUrX3WUdksuGEmRguFAa+E4gJtHJbCGcWAH0ad+TGRrymy3LOC9rBjDwmoT6J5eWraeow0JGb0QXbZ1VJaaFkCQqR/tLA1U7IaZSkQML3VX6R8E56VbKUh8= Received: by 10.38.160.51 with SMTP id i51mr241302rne; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:59:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57d71000050322205979b4d7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:59:52 -0800 From: pete wright To: JP In-Reply-To: <20050323030112.61189.qmail@web81004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050323030112.61189.qmail@web81004.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:59:53 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:01:12 -0800 (PST), JP wrote: > Hello All, > > I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release, and Samba 3. I am unable to locate this file anywhere. > Is this a FreeBSD .so or a samba .so. It seems like this may be a samba object, if so I'd try pinging the samba list, after searching thier archives first ;) -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:02:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8E716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:02:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52902.mail.yahoo.com (web52902.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DC2643D69 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:02:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from johaness_terra@yahoo.com.au) Received: (qmail 42525 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 05:02:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20050323050203.42523.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.95.200.131] by web52902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:03 EST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:03 +1100 (EST) From: Johaness Terra To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:02:06 -0000 I am a trainee for a corporate company and I really need your assistance. My boss as left for an emergency leave. The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time and would very much appreciate any simple assistance. I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) Login: Please assist. I would very much appreciate --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:09:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238D716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:09:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABBC543D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:09:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2005 05:09:43 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 06:09:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:08:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050323001948.72519.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323001948.72519.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1168608.AJI6VFncQE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503230608.29147@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Boris Spirialitious Subject: Re: AMD64 very slow! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:09:46 -0000 --nextPart1168608.AJI6VFncQE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 01:19 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: > -- Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris > > > Spirialitious: > > > I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em > > > card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs traffic > > > and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is > > > about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system run > > > with 85% load. How could be so slow? What tuning > > > extra is needed for amd64 kernels? > > > > 200kB/s sounds like misconfigured duplex/negotiation > > mode. > > But why don't you try FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1? Many > > performance improvements were > > achieved and stability is given in the -STABLE > > branch (BETA1 is a relese of > > FreeBSD 5-STABLE) > > I am sorry, I mean 200Mb/s. It is a controlled stream Unfortunately that's a not so uncommon result with em and 5.3. There are=20 tuning methods but they won't give the big kick. Like mentioned, try 5.4 (BETA1), depending on your employment you'll see=20 tremendous improvement, I don't have values handy nor can I confirm that fo= r=20 amd64, but you really wnat to try out, especially if this box isn't=20 productive yet, which it isn't if I understood correctly. =2DHarry > > Boris > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1168608.AJI6VFncQE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCQPnMBylq0S4AzzwRAoGYAJ0RWbF5qCll+vGgDgW5EztdyXzm/wCghzrn vW11EqNhH7ldff2Pk1vuB3w= =soO1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1168608.AJI6VFncQE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD01816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2623B43D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:15:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2N5FJCh007105; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:15:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4240FD9A.4050102@ec.rr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:24:42 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johaness Terra References: <20050323050203.42523.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323050203.42523.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:15:22 -0000 Johaness Terra wrote: >I am a trainee for a corporate company and I really need your assistance. My boss as left for an emergency leave. > >The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time and would very much appreciate any simple assistance. > >I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) >Login: > > >Please assist. I would very much appreciate > > > >--------------------------------- > > So you can't login? You don't have a user/pass? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:17:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A80D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:17:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (ppp142-130.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.142.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25B9343D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:17:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 51385 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Mar 2005 05:17:54 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:47:54 +1030 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: Johaness Terra Message-ID: <20050323051754.GH40528@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <20050323050203.42523.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qftxBdZWiueWNAVY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323050203.42523.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:17:57 -0000 --qftxBdZWiueWNAVY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 04:02:03PM +1100, Johaness Terra wrote: > The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on > FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new > email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time and > would very much appreciate any simple assistance. > > I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) > Login: > =20 > Please assist. I would very much appreciate=20 The system is waiting for you to type a username. If you have one, type it in and hit Return. The system will then prompt you for your password. Again, type it in (it won't appear on the screen) and press Return. If you don't have one, you can't proceed any further. --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --qftxBdZWiueWNAVY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQPwC730Z/jysbzIRAjW1AJ45XZ1tW+P4qrTPH9eqdK65jDQDegCfeB0m ohKIO1fCn5Xj0lTOXBXyqYc= =iS6D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qftxBdZWiueWNAVY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:24:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABB116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:24:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5D243D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gmcclure@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so120740wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:24:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Iq+QqS3/FLU7w1J8KHcO80IDeEumq4cHJ+GZ3LYfILbgXtAhghgQbqonqyHzMfGBQkpoiOn918+6pG+kYeYqQGxRgSIRxSfpKO0KXA4wcPvBK5/jhcXBouEmi+Dppv64W1b0uklI8mJDsKxWKHzpenwP+khx5tOKDH8+R33EVMk= Received: by 10.54.91.18 with SMTP id o18mr258267wrb; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.39.56 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:24:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9a4845b3050322212460764eb6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:24:09 -0800 From: Greg McClure To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Greg McClure List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:24:10 -0000 Thanks in advance to anyone who can let me know what's going on. I'm running FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE. Whenever I give the cvsup command to update my ports lately I get this error: Connected to cvsup5.FreeBSD.org Fatal error '_longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX 1003.1' at line ? in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = ?) Abort trap (core dumped) It's a new problem, and I suppose it's possible that it's related to some other library upgrade I did recently, although I'm not sure what that would be specifically since I don't run cvsup too often, only once per month or so. Any insights would be appreciated. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:37:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE5216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:37:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A3843D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:37:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so213298rnz for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:thread-index:content-type:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:message-id; b=XLqlF06Uk4lhZeTrDqzwTPPF5HVE+C2QcASFqqLOHtBWTtbKTT6SH0CaUai8zZbyo4wiZz8CcrgVmfcL+p/OIJX0ZPJ0oUITtsEO1hlV1P3vmRnJ/tpTurzoIgY3+vHd2iTZaJgEmNOn1RBUY7x5B2ibVyd/1K+8SBjDBDeczXE= Received: by 10.38.179.56 with SMTP id b56mr962502rnf; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.161.167]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 61sm1508945rnb.2005.03.22.21.37.43; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: "'Greg McClure'" , Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:07:36 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcUvaK1EWrMlPBGfQpSK20pkcjhx7gAAY9GA Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C52F98.85342A10" In-reply-to: <9a4845b3050322212460764eb6@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <424100a8.00b70715.427c.ffffe45c@mx.gmail.com> Subject: RE: cvsup core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:37:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C52F98.85342A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Greg McClure > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:54 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: cvsup core dumps > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can let me know what's going on. > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE. I would suggest you to rebuild cvsup from the ports collection without any non standard CFLAGS (if you are using some). Regards S. 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(HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (203.217.86.9) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 05:41:59 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:42:01 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503231542.03411.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: Apache compile prob in portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:42:01 -0000 Not sure whats going on .. but if anyone can help us, much appreciated. libtool is the latest version ================================= ===> Building for apache-2.1.4 Making all in srclib Making all in pcre /usr/local/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=compile cc -g -O2 -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib/pcre -I. -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/os/unix -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/server/mpm/prefork -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/http -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/filters -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/proxy -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/generators -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/mappers -I/usr/local/include/apr-1 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/proxy/../generators -I/usr/include -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/ssl -I/usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/modules/dav/main -prefer-non-pic -static -c maketables.c && touch maketables.lo libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib/pcre. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha/srclib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21/work/httpd-2.1.4-alpha. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache21. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 05:49:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361F416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8039743D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gmcclure@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so103388wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WlKQuH8DtkF8LS5YD71D7kPuiir9UVlgCKkNtm/vaeXI0koyNMZrjVcrGmNweHhozYejohmocRkE5ZEXhi3UiEmltImaO8O4EZGdG1p33/i4VmyB46GGK8k9TF+NxA138pDkcEOtOJaAi3OinnLabVtXvFwEtEjlZhe8CMrZZ74= Received: by 10.54.105.4 with SMTP id d4mr603wrc; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.39.56 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9a4845b3050322214921cdc019@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:42 -0800 From: Greg McClure To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <424100a8.00b70715.427c.ffffe45c@mx.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9a4845b3050322212460764eb6@mail.gmail.com> <424100a8.00b70715.427c.ffffe45c@mx.gmail.com> cc: Subhro Subject: Re: cvsup core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Greg McClure List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:49:44 -0000 Thanks for your response, it is appreciated. I already built it, using a straight-ahead "make install clean", no non-standard CFLAGS. I tried it again, same result. It's a strange problem. Any other suggestions? On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:07:36 +0530, Subhro wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Greg McClure > > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:54 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: cvsup core dumps > > > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can let me know what's going on. > > > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE. > > I would suggest you to rebuild cvsup from the ports collection without any > non standard CFLAGS (if you are using some). > > Regards > S. > > Indian Institute of Information Technology > Subhro Sankha Kar > Block AQ-13/1, Sector V > Salt Lake City > PIN 700091 > India > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:03:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086DB16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:03:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-04.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6E6C43D64 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:03:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 605 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 05:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warren.shinji.nq.nu) (203.217.86.9) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 05:55:38 -0000 From: Warren To: elf@elfware.za.net Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:55:14 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503230050766.SM01504@lucy.wdsl.co.za> In-Reply-To: <200503230050766.SM01504@lucy.wdsl.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503231555.15710.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache compile prob in portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:03:46 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 3:53 pm, Niq wrote: > Umm I had a similar problem , do a cvsup on ure whole ports tree ,and then > perhaps a portupgrade -a . I remember it had something to do with a package > in the textconv tree. Hope this helps I just finished doing a complete cvsup with all ports & src and a "portupgrade -aDk -m BATCH=yes" before i got this problem as it is 1 of a few ports that dont upgrade. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:07:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56B416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:07:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835D743D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:07:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.250.48.86.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net ([4.250.48.86] helo=sphinx.alpha.domain) by pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1DDz1k-0000YS-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:07:36 -0800 Received: from sphinx.alpha.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2N6D5df001690 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:13:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: (from rperry@localhost) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id j2N6D3Au001689 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:13:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: sphinx.alpha.domain: rperry set sender to rperry4@earthlink.net using -f Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:13:03 -0500 From: Bob Perry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323061303.GA1259@sphinx.alpha.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Installation Order for Win XP Pro, SuSE 9.2, & FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:07:42 -0000 I intend to re-install multiple operating systems onto a box which already has Win XP Pro and SuSE 9.2. After some thought, I've decided to add FreeBSD 5.3 and, in addition, change the Win XP Pro filesytem from NTFS to FAT32 to facilitate file- sharing. If I understand what I've been reading, I should be able to modify both the Linux and FreeBSD kernels to read and/or write ext2fs and UFS1 data as well. I'm prepared to clear the harddrive and start from scratch and I question whether or not there is a prescribed order for installation. I understand that Windows has a habit of overwriting data in the MBR and installing its' own loader so the recommendation is to load it first. Whether, Linux or FreeBSD is next I'm not sure and would welcome your input. I realize that there are third-party bootloaders available, but I have a feeling that I can learn more about these systems if I work with what they offer. I have a 120GB Western Digital HD, an ASUS P4P800-VM motherboard, and a Pentium 2.8GHz CPU. This is not currently my primary box, but who knows what may happen in the near future. Thanks in advance. This is a huge undertaking for me at this time. Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:19:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4292716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53904.mail.yahoo.com (web53904.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56DD443D5F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27702 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 06:19:05 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nKbvMySAnNLb4yOLUPtvrik4gccbPtdNIf2hgpb55nSK02VbPu4LUZco4V6+lPz5zOeQn5r2IXmRDkvAnubUleUIKvT9oBlI8zGHRp06b46yH3kBtiSwxSzcBwy1k6yrNZnCCpmQAVRhdJUZvhily03dlW9jhKc3bVPLQupjFF8= ; Message-ID: <20050323061905.27700.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:05 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:05 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: khaled.abu@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:07 -0000 it was said: >>>Well you can try to boot manually it may work. type the >>>following at the boot prompt >>> >>>0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader >>>OR >>>0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel >> >>Ooops I guess the last one is 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel >>Sorry >> > >Oh man I hat keyboard shortcuts. just pasted the wrong one >again. > >0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Yup this is the one... I hope Hello, Thanks for the reply. I had tried that and kept getting the "invalid format" error. I am puzzled by the fact that I can get a directory list, but the boot loader thinks the format is wrong. Also it seems to be looking in /kernel and not /boot/kernel/. To work around the Disk 2 problem, I downloaded FreeSBIE and ran fsck from that. / reports as clean, but the box still does not boot. /usr and /home report HUGE numbers of uncorrectable errors and bad blocks. Tonight I am going to run SpinRite on the disk to see if the power outage really damaged the disk. (If it did, this will be the first time since the MFM/RLL disk days!) I will report the result of that test. Right now, I am thinking a power loss shutdown of 5.3 makes a system unrecoverable, but more of these tests are required before reaching that conclusion. Thanks, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:19:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2C16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0376B43D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2N6JiAb039340; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:19:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j2N6JiOD039336; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:19:44 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:19:44 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Bob Perry In-Reply-To: <20050323061303.GA1259@sphinx.alpha.domain> Message-ID: <20050323071437.C99436@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <20050323061303.GA1259@sphinx.alpha.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation Order for Win XP Pro, SuSE 9.2, & FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:19:49 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Bob Perry wrote: > I intend to re-install multiple operating systems onto a box > which already has Win XP Pro and SuSE 9.2. After some thought, > I've decided to add FreeBSD 5.3 and, in addition, change the > Win XP Pro filesytem from NTFS to FAT32 to facilitate file- > sharing. If I understand what I've been reading, I should be > able to modify both the Linux and FreeBSD kernels to read and/or > write ext2fs and UFS1 data as well. > > I'm prepared to clear the harddrive and start from scratch and I > question whether or not there is a prescribed order for > installation. I understand that Windows has a habit of > overwriting data in the MBR and installing its' own loader so > the recommendation is to load it first. Whether, Linux or FreeBSD > is next I'm not sure and would welcome your input. > > I realize that there are third-party bootloaders available, but > I have a feeling that I can learn more about these systems if I > work with what they offer. > > I have a 120GB Western Digital HD, an ASUS P4P800-VM motherboard, > and a Pentium 2.8GHz CPU. > > This is not currently my primary box, but who knows what may happen > in the near future. > > Thanks in advance. This is a huge undertaking for me at this time. > > Bob Perry I'd prefer the order XP, FreeBSD, Linux. This is because both XP and FreeBSD can easily get a primary partition this way, and because - to my mind - lilo is a good boot manager to start all three os. Thus, install Linux at last, and install lilo into the MBR. I don't know grub but I guess, lilo can still be used with SuSE. Regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:44:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107E316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:44:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5044F43D66 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2N6iNhe011205; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2N6iMwN011204; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:44:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: jason henson Message-ID: <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:44:25 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 09:44:46PM -0500, jason henson wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > I'm having trouble installing 5.3 from my 4CD set. I have > > a 10G Window partition; That leaves 3 slices available. > > > > I have tried various sizes for /, SWAP, and /usr, but newfs > > consistantly has trouble mounting /usr. I have no idea why. > > After I hit return, the install completes, I reboot to see > > > > F1: ??? > > F2: FreeBSD > > F3: FreeBSD > > F4: FreeBSD > > > > F1 brings up my W2k; F2 boots FBSD but there is a system > > error swhen it tried to mount /usr. I tried by-hand. No-joy. > > Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? (Must I use the NT > > bootloader, etc?) > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like you have 3 root "partitions" for FBSD and one for windows. I > think you are dividing the disk up to soon. You only divide ad0 into > ad0s1(w2k) and ad0s2(ufs). The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive to give me more than three slices? This is where the handbook gets muddy. Can anybody 'splain this better?? > Then in the FBSD disk labeler you make /, > swap, /usr, /tmp, etc.... So to recap it seems you have made ad0s1, > ad0s2, ad0s3, and ad0s4 and the boot loader asks which you what to boot > from. So there is no /usr(I guess) on ad0s2, you put it on ad0s3. > Print out the steps from the handbook if you need to. Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 06:51:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5E416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53904.mail.yahoo.com (web53904.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDC2C43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:51:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35965 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 06:51:25 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=kJxLQc0qxlC92B+Ll0eGiyqg/6sXbNlbA4psVeVpSygPKhE28RiTC/ZHsasHtyEUEm3EXIAPPyCc4HS1XP5MJNla8B5jK3wRZWAZJdRPmrKEWvFSXP9LDZzed0lWaO6xW+SXtvmEgthBZ83O5+AUGxTQiuFk5xFQ8ZenZMqbA6U= ; Message-ID: <20050323065125.35963.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:51:25 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:51:25 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: problem burning 5.3-RELEASE Disc 2 from iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:51:26 -0000 Hello, I have have downloaded the 5.3-RELEASE four iso set from four different ftp sites including ftp.freebsd.org. Disc 2 does not burn, but the others do. The process hangs immediately when trying. I have tried this on both FreeBSD using burncd on an Acer CD-RW and Windows 2000 using Nero on a BenQ CD-RW with the same result. Has anybody successfully burned Disc 2? If so where did you get it from and what program did you use? Thanks for your time, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 07:10:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A325616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:10:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369343D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2N79uMV024501; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:09:58 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Tom Vilot In-Reply-To: <4240D4EE.60004@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4240D4EE.60004@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:09:56 +0000 Message-Id: <1111561796.751.348.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:10:18 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 19:31 -0700, Tom Vilot wrote: > Peter Risdon wrote: > > >>Can you explain why? What is it about 4.11 vs 4.9 with regard to this issue? > >> > >> > > > >Just that it's an up-to-date release. > > > >PHP and its extensions do depend on bits of the base system. You are > >using the very latest ported version, so far as I can see, with an out > >of date world. > > > > Okay, I suspect I'm going to have to bite the bullet. I must admit, tho, > I have some irrational fears about upgrading the core system. > > 1. I've never done it before > > 2. The server in question is in Texas. I am in Colorado. > > 3. I would rather not have to rent KVM and reboot into single user mode > ... but will if I must ... You don't _have_ to boot into single user mode. See below. > > (( sigh )) > > If I'm going to upgrade the system, does it make sense to just go > straight to 5.3? No, this would have some issues that you might be better avoiding right now. Going to 4.11 should be straightforward. Moving from 4.x to 5.3 is pretty complicated and a backup/reinstall is a better idea, so you can take full advantage of changes to the filesystem. The only time I have ever had a problem with a remote upgrade within the 4.x tree was when _I_ made a mistake. If you follow the handbook carefully, it should be fine. The procedure ensures you will have successfully completed the compilation of the base system (world) and kernel before either is installed. The only difference from the procedure in the handbook for a remote upgrade is that you would not boot into single user mode at any point, obviously, but instead do a normal reboot. Do read /usr/src/UPDATING, consider what you might need in /etc/make.conf and understand how mergemaster(8) works before starting. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 07:12:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97C416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:12:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53905.mail.yahoo.com (web53905.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16BB743D5E for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49644 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 07:12:30 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=LsHCRgAyJhwBMFpOxJTGXEcp7NYShrgs5BRAK8oKlK0zqQbzGF8SSEj/AtW7RTJXAuBwg8G4fzbBpsiKCykcagJ2h37vUMuaPRObLWHPeSupA0qLaZjN36MlzcB45ULPTrmB5JotkWZDvqQ9SbsfqbdnFnIVOSDS5bfu6m8RzrA= ; Message-ID: <20050323071230.49642.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:12:30 PST Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:12:30 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: johaness_terra@yahoo.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:12:31 -0000 it was said: >I am a trainee for a corporate company and I really need your >assistance. My boss as left for an emergency leave. > >The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on >FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new >email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time >and would very much appreciate any simple assistance. > >I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) >Login: > > >Please assist. I would very much appreciate Hello, You really should not do this if you do not know what you are doing. Although they _might_ get mad if you do not know how, they _will_ get mad if you try and break something. Ignorance is not a bad thing but stupidity is. Best regards, stheg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 07:13:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF69616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:13:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C097B43D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2N7Ckdh024526; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:12:47 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <6d0f6ca428b7b2c085df02fdcaaff3be@HiWAAY.net> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <334ed8bd3d1e5ee9582b706d65919fb4@chrononomicon.com> <20050322133006.GB22896@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <1111507893.751.298.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <6d0f6ca428b7b2c085df02fdcaaff3be@HiWAAY.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:12:46 +0000 Message-Id: <1111561966.751.352.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions Subject: Re: old scsi adapters and the benefits of open source [was: Anthony's issues [Slightly OT]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:13:09 -0000 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 18:58 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Peter Risdon wrote: > > > By contrast, I maintain a networked Windows machine that controls > > plasma > > cutting systems for a manufacturing business. It uses a serial port > > connection to send cutting patterns to the plasma controller. The > > serial > > port communications software was custom-written and runs only on > > versions of DOS that shipped with Windows up to and including 98. It is > > specifically incompatible with Win ME and all the NT family including > > XP > > and 2000/2003. I don't have access to the source code either of the > > custom application or any currently maintained version of Windows (of > > course), so no hacked upgrades are possible and we have to run Win 98 - > > which is desperately horrible and insecure in a networked environment. > > I don't use Vmware, but what you describe sounds like a good > application for it. Run a Win98 virtual machine. Let a modern OS host, > wrap and protect the virtual machine. Do all the networking with the > host. Yes, that's a good idea. Thanks. It also addresses the problem I didn't mention of having to use old hardware (contemporary with W98) in a key role. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 07:26:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147C043D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TastyNachos@charter.net) Received: from mxip16.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146])j2N7QbFD019033 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:26:42 -0500 Received: from 68-189-90-224.ca.charter.com (HELO [172.16.64.102]) (68.189.90.224) by mxip16.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2005 02:26:32 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,113,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="881225216:sNHT13221608" From: Remington To: Rob Winters In-Reply-To: <4240460F.4070502@winters.cc> References: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> <1111456654.1436.0.camel@baby> <4240460F.4070502@winters.cc> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:26:51 -0800 Message-Id: <1111562811.744.1.camel@baby> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems with Dell Inspiron 2600s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:26:44 -0000 Please attach full Xorg.log and xorg.conf. This wouldnt happen to be a widescreen would it? On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 11:21 -0500, Rob Winters wrote: > Remington wrote: > > change the device driver to vesa, see if it still crashes > > Changed "I810" to "vesa": > > old: > > >(EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth. > >(==) I810(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > >(II) UnloadModule: "i810" > >(II) UnloadModule: "ddc" > >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" > >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" > >(II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" > >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a > >(II) UnloadModule: "vbe" > >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > >(II) UnloadModule: "int10" > >(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > >(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > >Fatal server error: > >no screens found > > new: > > > (II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 125 64KB banks (8000kB) > > (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes > > (==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear > > (II) UnloadModule: "vesa" > > (II) UnloadModule: "ddc" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a > > (II) UnloadModule: "int10" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a > > (II) UnloadModule: "vbe" > > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a > > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > /// Rob > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 07:59:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F8216A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:59:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sffwd0.suedfactoring.de (port-212-202-224-251.static.qsc.de [212.202.224.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FD343D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de) Received: from sfld1.suedfac.com (sfld1.SUEDFAC.COM [10.4.1.241]) ESMTP id j2N7x5aD007323 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:59:05 +0100 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Notes Server on sfld1/suedfactoring(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 03/23/2005 08:53:58, MIME-CD complete at 03/23/2005 08:53:58,2004) at 03/23/2005 08:53:59 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:53:58 +0100 Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 and too many files open... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:59:09 -0000 Hi, i run into a problem on a FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE Applicationserver (2GB of RAM, 4GB Swap, Dual XEON 3.06Ghz). The box serves the "xfrce4-panel" for 80 Network Clients via ssh so the Users can start OpenOffice.org and firefox from that panel. It is goin very well, except a message (and also a problem) i run into the last day. If i tried to open firefox from a networkclient and received the message "too many files open...". I saw that message on 3 different Network Clients and just after a fresh configure and the first time starting firfox on these Networkclients with that UID. I checked my configuration on the server about "openfiles": kern.openfiles:9306 kern.maxfiles:65536 netstat -m 3952 mbufs in use 732/64000 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) [...] "fstat" shows me 393 on User A and on User B 3459. I did not check the other users. kern.maxfilesperproc: 5898 kern.maxusers: 384 My /boot/loader.conf looks like: kern.maxfiles="65536" kern.ipc.nmbclusters=64000 kern.ipc.nmbufs=256000 kern.maxproc=8192 kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096 So i do not get it, imho the configuration is just fine, but why do i get the message "too many files open..."? Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 08:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE50F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:16:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96A1B43D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2005 08:16:39 -0000 Received: from pD9514EBC.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [217.81.78.188] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 09:16:39 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:16:32 +0100 From: Mario Hoerich To: Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de Message-ID: <20050323081631.GA26649@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and too many files open... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:16:43 -0000 # Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de: > > kern.maxfilesperproc: 5898 > kern.maxusers: 384 > > My /boot/loader.conf looks like: > kern.maxfiles="65536" > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=64000 > kern.ipc.nmbufs=256000 > kern.maxproc=8192 > kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096 > > So i do not get it, imho the configuration is just fine, but why do i get > the message "too many files open..."? What does ulimit -a tell? Any limits in /etc/login.conf? Regards, Mario From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 08:28:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85816A638 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:28:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sffwd0.suedfactoring.de (port-212-202-224-251.static.qsc.de [212.202.224.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4764B43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de) Received: from sfld1.suedfac.com (sfld1.SUEDFAC.COM [10.4.1.241]) ESMTP id j2N8SCaD007752 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:28:12 +0100 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MIMETrack: MIME-CD by Notes Server on sfld1/suedfactoring(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 03/23/2005 09:23:06, MIME-CD complete at 03/23/2005 09:23:06,2004) at 03/23/2005 09:23:06 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:23:06 +0100 Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and too many files open... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:28:18 -0000 Mario wrote: ># Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de: >> >> kern.maxfilesperproc: 5898 >> kern.maxusers: 384 >> >> My /boot/loader.conf looks like: >> kern.maxfiles="65536" >> kern.ipc.nmbclusters=64000 >> kern.ipc.nmbufs=256000 >> kern.maxproc=8192 >> kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096 >> >>So i do not get it, imho the configuration is just fine, but why do i get >> the message "too many files open..."? >What does ulimit -a tell? Any limits in /etc/login.conf? Well, "limit" tells me: limit cputime unlimited filesize unlimited datasize 524288 kbytes stacksize 65536 kbytes coredumpsize 2048 kbytes memoryuse unlimited vmemoryuse unlimited descriptors 58982 memorylocked unlimited maxproc 7372 sbsize unlimited (in the future i have to fix cputime, filesize,... to accaptable value...) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 08:35:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B4416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E01E43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (reader.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2N8ZImr012995 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:35:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <42412B3C.50806@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:39:24 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Thunderbird/1.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <18510151385.20050321193911@wanadoo.fr> <4240ABC2.600@bah.homeip.net> <1536808142.20050323040010@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1536808142.20050323040010@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:26 -0000 Anthony Atkielski skrev: > Bernt Hansson writes: > > >>What bios version is it? > > > The BIOS version is GG.06.04. > > The Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra BIOS version is v1.2S3-HP. http://www.google.se/search?q=%22HP+Vectra+XU+6/200%22+-memory+-freebsd&hl=sv&lr=&start=10&sa=N http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-01/msg00129.html http://www.freebsd.de/archive/de-bsd-questions/de-bsd-questions.200301/0710.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 08:41:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B67E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:41:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C3F43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so110105rna for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:41:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kY6Lvh76uaqhcj+ua2ZiSdlc9vWeNemNUa+2kJRCxyfE3BD7HwBhGjNSIwVy/Cq+m+2UR+zL0HM/+nhZoYYYFS8nViokHYuArt3r+/i9LX948HVIXFvC/OAVIomgz428+lyHpIZcLqOyC1shc6qDtr4Yl9uyOnHxl5bjYVS7fk0= Received: by 10.38.160.51 with SMTP id i51mr354010rne; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:41:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:41:44 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:41:45 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:52:19 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > /sbin/dhclient de0 > echo -n $? > /etc/dhc.err > echo -n "= DHCLIENT exit status" >> /etc/dhc.err > > ifconfig de0 > sleep 3 What does this part do ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 09:05:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCA343D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so133212wri for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:05:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qm4vt8hC7D9vGUWV7t0cZvc8r/hEiYCM8cJdUYrdy9zdZlSjLSeMsuaXFO3H3ZYAIa1FT/qHdvoss2K6fsk8VEj2mL2uOyXSBmPaI3tek6mdtlulyPNhHCNH4Xv05fSduMCpvCq2QFEbVJ85/kH+4ZMe+ZWmIS0W84mXd67lJDo= Received: by 10.54.94.7 with SMTP id r7mr98015wrb; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.4.59 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:05:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:38 +0000 From: Freminlins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <110900121.20050323034640@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <110900121.20050323034640@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freminlins List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:40 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:46:40 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > But I don't really know for sure, because nothing is documented, and > nobody here knows anything. So you keep telling us. So why do you bother posting in the first place if you don't expect an answer that pleases you? > Anthony Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 09:37:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC21216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:37:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetis.com (cpe-212-18-40-64.adsl.amis.net [212.18.40.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C4A43D5A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karel@inetis.com) Received: from [192.168.0.14] ([192.168.0.14]) by inetis.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: <424138CE.5040106@inetis.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:37:18 +0100 From: Karel Miklav User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323065125.35963.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323065125.35963.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.1 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem burning 5.3-RELEASE Disc 2 from iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:37:51 -0000 check http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+5.3-release-i386-disc2.iso+burn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 09:41:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50CA16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:41:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D8043D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2N9fUb36492 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:41:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <772682460.20050322155538@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:41:20 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > >> OK, well then that increases the chances that it is a driver issue >> and reduces the chances that it is a hardware issue. Assuming your >> termination is correct, that would increase chances it is a driver >> issue even more. > > That's rather what I've thought all along. > >> Going to each single disk is what you really need to do now in order >> to make a definite finger point to the driver. > > To each single disk? What do you mean? > What I mean is temporarily pull the Quantum disk, load a scratch system on the Seagate, run some disk testing utility or some such that beats on the disk, and see if you get errors. Then repeat the process with just the Quantum in the system. What that tells you is the following: 1) If the seagate runs fine and the quantum errors, it's an incompatibility between the quantum and the adaptec. Someone may be able to write around the problem in the driver code, but most likely the driver developer will not be able to do this. Submit a send-pr as a bug mainly to archive the problem in case someone else has a similar problem in the future, and find another Seagate disk to replace the Quantum. 2) If the quantum runs fine and the seagate errors, it's an incompatibility between the seagate and the adaptec. Someone may be able to write around the problem in the driver code, but most likely the driver developer will not be able to do this. Submit a send-pr as a bug mainly to archive the problem in case someone else has a similar problem in the future, and find another Quantum disk to replace the Seagate. 3) If both run fine individually then it's an incompatibility between the Seagate and the Quantum. Someone may be able to write around the problem in the driver code, but most likely the driver developer will not be able to do this. Submit a send-pr as a bug mainly to archive the problem in case someone else has a similar problem in the future, and play musical disks with your other systems to get both disks the same manufacturer. 4) If they both error then it's a problem between the SCSI adapter and the FreeBSD driver. Submit a send-pr as a bug. This is most likely to be looked at by the developer. > I tried a build of the kernel again today, to exercise the > machine. For > quite a while it behaved, but then the SCSI errors popped up again. > At least it didn't crash. > >> I have been working on a Compaq Professional workstation from time >> to time to setup a test workstation over the last week. It has a >> problem where under heavy use it will corrupt files written and read >> from the disk. This system was always a Windows box before, using >> a 1GB Seagate disk drive. (don't ask why Compaq would supply a 1GB >> disk it is rediculous) Here are some relevant bits of the dmesg >> that might interest you: >> >> . >> . >> CPU: Pentium Pro (199.31-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 >> >> > Features=0xf9ff ,MCA,CMOV> >> . >> . >> ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem >> 0x40080000-0x40080fff irq 11 at device 18.0 on pci0 >> aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs . >> . >> da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device >> da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing >> Enabled da0: 8191MB (16777215 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1044C) > > Looks familiar. > >> Now I can say one thing with certainty with this machine - Compaq has >> definitely modded the Adaptec microcode used on the controller here. >> Why do I know this? I know it because I tried removing the 2940 card >> from this machine and plugging it into another non-Compaq machine, >> and the card would not boot the disk in that system. However, a >> non-Compaq-labeled 2940 card works fine in that system. > > Compaq has a terrible reputation for screwing around with standard > hardware and firmware. I've always felt that they could still build > good servers even without all their home-baked junk, but they > apparently felt differently. I like commodity hardware and firmware. > It's very hard today to justify custom stuff just to gain perhaps a > few scant percent of performance under highly specific conditions. > >> I had assumed the problem with this system was bad ram. But, I think >> I am going to try pulling that Quantum disk out of there and >> using a different one. > > You think something on the drive itself is different? > I just want to see if perhaps a different manufacturer's hard disk will work OK. I already know they modded the microcode there's a chance they did it wrong. There's also a chance they didn't test with one of the disks I put in there. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 09:52:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E20F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:52:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FBF43D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2N9qZb36520 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:52:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:52:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <621018420.20050322155940@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:52:25 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > > > There's a second problem with this machine: I can't get it to boot > from disk. It booted fine under NT, but it won't boot FreeBSD on its > own, nor was it willing to boot Mandrake Linux. > That is a common problem with SCSI adapters. To fix it, go into the SCSI configuration and turn ON 'translation for DOS' I think it is called. I know, it's not particularly intuitive, and the help in the SCSI bios indicates you turn this off for UNIX. If you have an onboard SCSI this parameter is probably set in the BIOS or in EISA-config if you have EISA slots. Just a FYI the "translation for DOS" setting is used only when the machine is booting, it has no effect on the FreeBSD system once it's up and runing. > > The only way I can boot right now is from diskette. I enter the > loader after waiting 10 minutes for the diskette boot to proceed, > then I change > the current device, unload the kernel, and boot again, and the machine > instantly boots from the hard disk and comes up. Now if I could just > get the machine to do that on its own ... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 09:56:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462ED16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:56:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from osiris.mundane.co.za (sdtn-9.netactive.co.za [196.22.173.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498A243D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riaana@osiris.mundane.co.za) Received: from osiris.mundane.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.mundane.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F863F0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:53 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from riaana@localhost) by osiris.mundane.co.za (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2N9trrS011221 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:53 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from riaana) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:53 +0200 From: Riaan Annandale To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DesjdUuHQDwS2t4N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD osiris.mundane.co.za 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE X-Class: Fast Precedence: special-delivery Subject: ssh sessions getting "paused" on idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:56:18 -0000 --DesjdUuHQDwS2t4N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, hopefully this is a stoopid question with an easy answer. I ssh to anything over 10 machines at a time and leave the xterms idle. When I come back to a session and press enter / start typing, it takes a few seconds to come alive. Almost as if the connection got canned. Do you think this could be ipfw related? Or is it a switch that i have to specify somewhere? As always, any help will be much appreciated. Thanks --=20 Riaan Annandale --DesjdUuHQDwS2t4N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQT0pJRggvz18KpsRAg4sAKDS4jyJF22vwAnEELmipu5mvOHLfwCgx8Fo Ttneoh1k7azh14k/+obKIVE= =pc+1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DesjdUuHQDwS2t4N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 10:01:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C283E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:01:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24EA43D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no (amidala.datadok.no [194.54.103.98]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NA0xBM005611; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:01:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: "Eugene M. Minkovskii" References: <20050320093159.GA3213@mccme.ru> <861xaamf9t.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050321071227.GA29429@mccme.ru> <86eke9fn7o.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322120451.GA3137@mccme.ru> <86hdj36fho.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322124220.GB3137@mccme.ru> <86d5tr6e1r.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322130900.GC3137@mccme.ru> <868y4f6c9i.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <20050322134552.GD3137@mccme.ru> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:59:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20050322134552.GD3137@mccme.ru> (Eugene M. Minkovskii's message of "Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:45:52 +0300") Message-ID: <86sm2m7ket.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: emin@mccme.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's pf and traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:01:31 -0000 "Eugene M. Minkovskii" writes: > pf@benzedrine.cx is it mail-list or private e-mail. Does I need > to register anywhere before mail to it? pf@benzedrine.cx is a mailing list, which I think allows posting by non-subscribers, but obviously you may want to sign up to make sure you get any replies sent to the list only. Anyway the mailing list's home page is at http://www.benzedrine.cx/mailinglist.html (Sorry for the delay - bgnett's mail servers apparently were a bit overwhelmed some worm or other, leaving useful traffic queued rather longer than I appreciate.) -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 10:09:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5555316A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:09:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B568C43D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:09:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2NA9Bb37000 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:08:59 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1536808142.20050323040010@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:09:01 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Bernt Hansson writes: > >> What bios version is it? > > The BIOS version is GG.06.04. > > The Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra BIOS version is v1.2S3-HP. Well, now Anthony, that Adaptec AIC BIOS version indicates that it's a HP-modded microcode in the controller. (that is what the trailing -HP means) You can't replace it with standard Adaptec microcode for something like a 2740 card because HP might have modded it to get around some hardware issue on the Vectra. It is also possible HP's mod did something nonstandard with the Adaptec chipset which the FreeBSD driver doesen't know about. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 10:17:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48E016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:17:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51309.mail.yahoo.com (web51309.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 541F543D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcpaq2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77181 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 10:17:47 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=Q2GjqVQ+Id8qFONm2zA5uwdSh6ZNsjggb7YdtAW/W+Zg6u6nlGZB5ml1SZAJezjMW+fwCIJMDTEedU6c5ZL+UzHVRjpKt+rfeL/6avjTcr9FugXr2QTOarkJoJZBKjwBHsKpw2UWP1UBa2Kd2xtqmVGYAc7XV+kkj48YTYDIt+A= ; Message-ID: <20050323101747.77179.qmail@web51309.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.75.60.45] by web51309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:17:47 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 02:17:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Paquette To: pbdlists@pinboard.com In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free BSD and HP's Integrated Lights Out X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:17:49 -0000 thanks for the reply on this. I wanting the buy the advance package license for the remote media feature and the graphic display so that way I can run the smart start cd wipe the drives and do a fresh installation of free bsd remotely if i want to. With out the advanced package license all i can do is view texted information and power on or off the server, thats really about it. Here is the link to the license package. http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=1894865 I am 95 percent sure that I was able to see the free bsd installation screen when I was playing around with the 30 day trial. but for $350.00 I want to make darn sure, because im sure once i buy it im stuck with it, weather if works or not. The people I spoke with at HP have no idea how they can give me a few more days on the 30 day trial license to test it out. Is there anyone here who has a DL380 with the integrated lights out that has not used up their 30 day trial that would be willing to test and verify this? Doug ----------------------------------------------------- --- pbdlists@pinboard.com wrote: > As far as I know, basic iLO features are not OS > dependent at all. But if > you need a license, you're using advanced features; > basic support is > included with the server. Possibly you want to get > to a graphic display? > If you can do with access to a text terminal you > should be fine. > Switching to a text terminal via a SSH session to > iLO can, for example, > be done by assigning CTRL-ALT-F1 to say CTRL-T in > iLO itself. > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:08:48AM -0800, Doug > Paquette wrote: > > Group, > > > > Is there anyone here who knows if HP's Integrated > > Lights out card on a Proliant DL380 G3 will for > sure > > work with Free BSD? > > > > I beleive it will from the last time I tried the > > trial, but that was 8 months ago and I cannot > remember > > if it did or not, and I have already used up my 30 > day > > trial, and HP doesn't know how to get me more > trial > > time. I hate to buy the licencing pack without > knowing > > for sure. > > > > Can anyone help me with this? > > > > Thanks > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 10:34:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7188B16A4CE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC3243D2D; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.25] ([68.236.212.14]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IDS00ELRW10CPC2@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:34:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:34:47 -0500 From: bsdzz In-reply-to: <423CB55D.9090204@verizon.net> To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <42414647.706@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <423CB55D.9090204@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Does QEMU support Windows VPN ? (3rd try..) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:18 -0000 Hello, I have been trying to connect from my FreeBSD box to a Microsoft VPN. I am running Windows 2000 Pro and also Windows Millennium inside QEMU. I have also tried using both "-user-net" and "/dev/tun0" connections. The connections fail while trying to authenticate my name and password. This connection is being made from my home (which is behind a hardware firewall) to my workplace. I can connect to the VPN when I am using a native Windows computer at my house. After I get the VPN connection working from within QEMU, I am going to use RemoteDesktop, but I haven't got that far yet. Is it possible to use connect to a Microsoft VPN using Windows inside QEMU? So far the authentication always fails. thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:11:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B140116A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:11:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51303.mail.yahoo.com (web51303.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22E7E43D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:11:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcpaq2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80218 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 11:11:56 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=dL25rbt7yrP5/5jsaAPhX1CZH/eZeFIOOFKVdBrbEfdF0eu031Ixvu/reptFCIO0W3yaTet4nxTMu9HhQUuCF0vH66BQe2Z6bmhqbx8XglrvtxkieThw7OxTp5OdgX4WpW8QC8vsOTEcHjFopI54f6sAYEf+/M2ckclqfhoJOik= ; Message-ID: <20050323111156.80216.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.75.60.45] by web51303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:56 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:11:56 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Paquette To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Teaming / Load Sharing of NIC Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:11:57 -0000 Group, I have an HP Proliant DL380 G3 and I am interested in teaming or load sharing (what ever its called) my two NIC cards that are in my server. I have been reading about this that I am suppose to find free bsd drivers to make this work??? I am interested in doing this, but dont know what to do or where to start, is there anyone who has done this before with my kind of setup (dl380 server and free bsd O/S) that can either point me in the right direction, explain to me how to do this, or walk me through it? Thanks Doug __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:20:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2492716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:20:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tierra2.ng.fadesa.es (tierra2.ng.fadesa.es [195.55.55.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C64043D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:20:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fandino@ng.fadesa.es) Received: from [195.55.55.163] ([195.55.55.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by tierra2.ng.fadesa.es (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2NBKlmA003183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:20:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4241510F.8050705@ng.fadesa.es> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:20:47 +0100 From: fandino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: gl, en, es MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323030112.61189.qmail@web81004.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323030112.61189.qmail@web81004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: user fandino from 195.55.55.163 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/780/Wed Mar 23 01:08:55 2005 on tierra2.ng.fadesa.es X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fandino@ng.fadesa.es List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:20:59 -0000 JP wrote: > I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file > named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories > after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 > Release, and Samba 3. I am unable to locate this file anywhere. I'm using "preexec" as a workaround to the missing mkhomedir. [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S path = /samba/%u read only = No browseable = No # automatic home directories creation root preexec = if [ ! -d "/samba/%u/" ] ;\ then { mkdir -p "/samba/%u/.winprofile" ;\ chown -R %u "/samba/%u" ; \ chmod -R 0700 "/samba/%u" ;} ; \ fi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:21:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC4E16A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emr1.eu.uu.net (emr1.eu.uu.net [195.129.12.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959E643D67 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mario.negwer@deu.mci.com) Received: from imr1.eu.uu.net ([213.68.123.49]) by emr1.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1DE3vL-0005gd-7d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:19 +0000 Received: from localhost.uu.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by imr1.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1DE3vK-0004hG-Tz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:19 +0000 Received: from negi.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net ([62.191.184.21]) by imr1.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1DE3vK-0004h8-GE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:18 +0000 Received: by negi.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net id j2NBLIn2006471; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:18 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:18 +0000 From: Mario Negwer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323112118.GE5151@negi.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: MCI Group (UUNET Germany) Subject: mpathy 3310 usb storage device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mario Negwer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:21:21 -0000 Hi togehter I have a problem to connect my "mpathy 3310" (mp3 player) usb storage device. This storage contains a "compact flash card". If I want to connect it, I got following messages: Mar 23 08:25:47 negwer kernel: umass0: vendor 0x090a product 0x1100, rev 1.10/1.00, addr2 Mar 23 08:27:58 negwer kernel: umass0: CBI reset failed, TIMEOUT Mar 23 08:27:58 negwer kernel: umass0: CBI bulk-in stall clear failed, STALLED Mar 23 08:27:58 negwer kernel: umass0: CBI bulk-out stall clear failed, STALLED Mar 23 08:27:58 negwer kernel: (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): AutoSense Failed It seems that mpathy don't implement. Do you have any ideas to get it work anyhow? Thnx -- Greetings Mario From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:22:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B07316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se (pernis.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C9743D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id CC052E2; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:19 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s332; Wed, 23 Mar 05 12:22:08 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652B1E2; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:07 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 66CC638012; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDB15C002; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:07 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20050322221622.GB821@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20050322221622.GB821@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8-bit characters anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:22:22 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-22 23:02, Andreas Davour wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> In KDE, after having added my own xmodmap to the .xinitrc file, I >>>> though that they might appear. No such luck. Even after setting the >>>> keyboard layout on Control Panel/Regional/Keyboard Layout to Swedish >>>> do they not appear. [...] >>> >>> You have probably forgotten to set the locale related stuff correctly in >>> your environment. What does the following in one of your shells? >>> >>> % env | grep LANG >>> % env | grep LC_ >> >> Nothing at all. Though, I never did fiddle with locales before the >> upgrade either. In KDE I have configured the locale as Swedish, and the >> date, currency and those things look ok. > > This is probably what's causing you trouble. > > FWIW, using the XKB input extension here, I noticed that the X server > fails to get/output any 8-bit character until I correctly set my > environment in the login shell or my ``.xinitrc'' file. > > For instance, for Greek text input, I use: > > [-- .xinitrc file --] After adapting this to my locale, things look like they should in X. Now I'll just have to figure out how to get the console to work as I want as well. Things must have changed from my last install, when this wasn't necessary. Thanks for your help! /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:23:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D576516A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:23:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56F43D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:23:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9997 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DE3ww-0005KP-KA; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:22:58 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F312841A7; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:25:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E39258D6D3; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:23:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:22:56 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Riaan Annandale Message-Id: <20050323122256.225a3a13.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> References: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh sessions getting "paused" on idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:23:01 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:53 +0200 Riaan Annandale wrote: > I ssh to anything over 10 machines at a time and leave the xterms > idle. When I come back to a session and press enter / start typing, it > takes a few seconds to come alive. Almost as if the connection got > canned. > > Do you think this could be ipfw related? Or is it a switch that i have > to specify somewhere? i can only tell you that when i'm using a not so good internet-connection my ssh-sessions suffer from that in a similar way as you described here, some people told me that ssh can be given highest priority with a traffic shaper (i think ipfw can do that too), that could solve this problem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23BA16A4D2 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from osiris.mundane.co.za (sdtn-9.netactive.co.za [196.22.173.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B743C43D5E for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from riaana@osiris.mundane.co.za) Received: from osiris.mundane.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.mundane.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D816458; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:31:40 +0200 (SAST) Received: (from riaana@localhost) by osiris.mundane.co.za (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j2NBU939012322; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:30:09 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from riaana) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:29:58 +0200 From: Riaan Annandale To: "albi@scii.nl" Message-ID: <20050323112958.GA12173@za.tiscali.com> References: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> <20050323122256.225a3a13.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323122256.225a3a13.albi@scii.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD osiris.mundane.co.za 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE X-Class: Fast Precedence: special-delivery cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh sessions getting "paused" on idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:32:05 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:22:56PM +0100, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:53 +0200 > Riaan Annandale wrote: >=20 > > I ssh to anything over 10 machines at a time and leave the xterms > > idle. When I come back to a session and press enter / start typing, it > > takes a few seconds to come alive. Almost as if the connection got > > canned. > >=20 > > Do you think this could be ipfw related? Or is it a switch that i have > > to specify somewhere? >=20 > i can only tell you that when i'm using a not so good > internet-connection my ssh-sessions suffer from that in a similar way as > you described here, some people told me that ssh can be given highest > priority with a traffic shaper (i think ipfw can do that too), that > could solve this problem Thanks for the answer, I doubt that is the problem though. As I have at least 3MB links to all these servers (it's on throttled ethernet in our data centre ;) >=20 >=20 ---end quoted text--- --=20 Riaan Annandale --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQVM2JRggvz18KpsRAnw3AJ91kBNP68gpDursKCk1oOsKVSmycACfcdNK 53nLmMcbOT6ALGfcr+XW/68= =fpgY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 11:54:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6D616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:54:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8841943D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:54:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 1DEC948A6; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:54:14 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s38927; Wed, 23 Mar 05 12:54:04 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F084886 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:54:04 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 32AE738012; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:54:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319D25C002 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:54:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:54:04 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:54:17 -0000 I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now version 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and since it is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, some of those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some that suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD library files, but that wont work. Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something again? /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 12:43:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCBD16A4CF; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA9843D68; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr) Received: from vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (ferreol-1-82-66-171-150.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.171.150]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4D6C1FC; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:43:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7A703C99AB; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:43:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:43:04 +0100 From: Bachelier Vincent To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323124304.GA68779@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD localhost 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: ksysguardd issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:43:10 -0000 Hi I have a problem with ksysguardd in user mode, it would start ksysguardd with want to create pid file under /var/run /var/run has a mode: 0755 root/wheel Well, the applet assiociated (System controling (kde applet)) wouldn't continue to start ok, have an idea ? any patch to do ? -- Vincent Bachelier Language : Francais / English Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr - Serveurs linux Blog : http://dieghostfbsd.blogspot.com Site perso : http://www.solintech.fr/freebsd/ - FreeBSD Donjon Citation (fortune): For my son, Robert, this is proving to be the high-point of his entire life to date. He has had his pajamas on for two, maybe three days now. He has the sense of joyful independence a 5-year-old child gets when he suddenly realizes that he could be operating an acetylene torch in the coat closet and neither parent [because of the flu] would have the strength to object. He has been foraging for his own food, which means his diet consists entirely of "food" substances which are advertised only on Saturday-morning cartoon shows; substances that are the color of jukebox lights and that, for legal reasons, have their names spelled wrong, as in New Creemy Chok-'n'-Cheez Lumps o' Froot ("part of this complete breakfast"). -- Dave Barry, "Molecular Homicide" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:09:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4648616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:09:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sensormatic.co.za (panther.wtec.co.za [69.67.33.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F084B43D64 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:09:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lourik@wtec.co.za) Received: from solar.poq.co.za ([192.168.3.2]) (AUTH: LOGIN lourik@wtec.co.za, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by sensormatic.co.za with esmtp; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:09:25 +0200 From: Lourik Malan Organization: Woodlands Technologies Pty(LTD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:09:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503231509.19969.lourik@wtec.co.za> Subject: Wireless Network NDIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lourik@wtec.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:09:44 -0000 HI there I get the following when i try an compile the following into the kernel. options NDISAPI device ndis device wlan /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c:85:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pccard.c:66:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pci.c:65:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 FRom FreeBSD newbie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:17:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC7416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:17:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 120AE43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:17:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ph.schulz@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2005 13:17:47 -0000 Received: from dsl-084-056-233-020.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [192.168.1.5]) [84.56.233.20] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 14:17:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1954550 Message-ID: <42416C54.5010303@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:17:08 +0100 From: Phil Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050320 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lourik@wtec.co.za References: <200503231509.19969.lourik@wtec.co.za> In-Reply-To: <200503231509.19969.lourik@wtec.co.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Network NDIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:17:50 -0000 On 03/23/05 14:09, Lourik Malan wrote: > HI there > > I get the following when i try an compile the following into the kernel. > > options NDISAPI > device ndis > device wlan > > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c:85:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such file or > directory > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pccard.c:66:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such > file or directory > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pci.c:65:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such file > or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > >From ndis(4): "To build a functional driver, the user must have a copy of the driver distribution media for his or her card. From this distribution, the user must extract two files: the .SYS file containing the driver binary code, and its companion .INF file, which contains the definitions for driver-specific registry keys and other installation data such as device identifiers. These two files can be converted into a ndis_driver_data.h file using the ndiscvt(8) utility. This file contains a binary image of the driver plus registry key data. When the ndis driver loads, it will create sysctl(3) nodes for each registry key extracted from the .INF file." So, in short: You'll need to run the supplied Windows driver through ndiscvt(8) before you can build the ndis module. Regards, Phil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8223916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:27:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0C43D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:27:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 90C5B5155B; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:27:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:27:50 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andreas Davour Message-ID: <20050323132750.GE19868@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MIdTMoZhcV1D07fI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:27:53 -0000 --MIdTMoZhcV1D07fI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:54:04PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: >=20 > I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now=20 > version 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and= =20 > since it is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But,= =20 > some of those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? >=20 > I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some=20 > that suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD=20 > library files, but that wont work. >=20 > Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something=20 > again? Sounds like you're running an out-of-date ports collection. Kris --MIdTMoZhcV1D07fI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQW7WWry0BWjoQKURAvzcAJ0QCTiwJcfpnEWna21Lalv2tqN6OwCeNdrv 9xwSdk6Q1mmlGudu8FmsI40= =KLgl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MIdTMoZhcV1D07fI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:29:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2516F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:29:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sensormatic.co.za (panther.wtec.co.za [69.67.33.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413CB43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:29:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lourik@wtec.co.za) Received: from solar.poq.co.za ([192.168.3.2]) (AUTH: LOGIN lourik@wtec.co.za, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by sensormatic.co.za with esmtp; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:28:53 +0200 From: Lourik Malan Organization: Woodlands Technologies Pty(LTD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:28:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200503231509.19969.lourik@wtec.co.za> <42416C54.5010303@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <42416C54.5010303@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503231528.44589.lourik@wtec.co.za> Subject: Re: Wireless Network NDIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lourik@wtec.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:29:06 -0000 hi There i've got the following files from the winxp folder Fw1130.bin FwRad16.bin FwRad17.bin TNET1130.INF radio16.bin radio17.bin tnet1130.cat tnet1130.sys i copied all of them to the correct folder /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis root solar:/usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis# ndiscvt -i TNET1130.INF -s tnet1130.sys -f Fw1130.bin FwRad16.bin FwRad17.bin radio16.bin radio17.bin -o ndis_driver_data.h objcopy -I binary -O elf32-i386-freebsd -B i386 Fw1130.bin Fw1130.bin.o objcopy --redefine-sym _binary_Fw1130_bin_start=fw1130_bin_start --strip-symbol _binary_Fw1130_bin_size --redefine-sym _binary_Fw1130_bin_end=fw1130_bin_end Fw1130.bin.o Fw1130.bin.o ld -Bshareable -d -warn-common -o Fw1130.bin.ko Fw1130.bin.o root solar:/usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis#make && make install # kldload ndis # kldload if_ndis this all works fine, but i can't compile it in permenantly and the wireless pcmcia card is not working Any help will be greatly appeciated On Wednesday 23 March 2005 15:17, Phil Schulz wrote: > On 03/23/05 14:09, Lourik Malan wrote: > > HI there > > > > I get the following when i try an compile the following into the kernel. > > > > options NDISAPI > > device ndis > > device wlan > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c:85:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such > > file or directory > > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pccard.c:66:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No > > such file or directory > > /usr/src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pci.c:65:30: ndis_driver_data.h: No such > > file or directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > >From ndis(4): > > "To build a functional driver, the user must have a copy of the driver > distribution media for his or her card. From this distribution, the > user must extract two files: the .SYS file containing the driver binary > code, and its companion .INF file, which contains the definitions for > driver-specific registry keys and other installation data such as device > identifiers. These two files can be converted into a ndis_driver_data.h > file using the ndiscvt(8) utility. This file contains a binary image of > the driver plus registry key data. When the ndis driver loads, it will > create sysctl(3) nodes for each registry key extracted from the .INF file." > > So, in short: You'll need to run the supplied Windows driver through > ndiscvt(8) before you can build the ndis module. > > Regards, > > Phil. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Lourik Malan Woodlands Technologies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:34:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B69716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:34:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EB643D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:34:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id D4D4048DE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:34:07 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s40975; Wed, 23 Mar 05 14:34:03 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481D148BB; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:34:03 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 3D1EB38012; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:34:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7275C002; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:34:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:34:02 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20050323132750.GE19868@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: References: <20050323132750.GE19868@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:34:10 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:54:04PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: >> >> I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now >> version 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and >> since it is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, >> some of those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? >> >> I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some >> that suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD >> library files, but that wont work. >> >> Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something >> again? > > Sounds like you're running an out-of-date ports collection. Well, I updated it just days ago when I installed my new kernel. Maybe the port was broken just those days I looked then. If no others have the same problem I guess I must have been "lucky" to get it right when it broke then. :) /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:42:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4463C16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:42:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2A743D53 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8A34837EDC; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.177]) by av5-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9B737ED2 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 89D2937E46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 37258 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 13:42:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:26 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Andreas Davour Message-ID: <20050323134226.GA37229@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Davour , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323132750.GE19868@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:42:32 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:34:02PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:54:04PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: > >> > >>I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now > >>version 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and > >>since it is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, > >>some of those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? > >> > >>I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some > >>that suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD > >>library files, but that wont work. > >> > >>Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something > >>again? > > > >Sounds like you're running an out-of-date ports collection. > > Well, I updated it just days ago when I installed my new kernel. Maybe > the port was broken just those days I looked then. If no others have the > same problem I guess I must have been "lucky" to get it right when it > broke then. :) The print/acroread port was updated from Acroread 5 to Acroread 7 about a week ago. A few days ago it was changed back to Acroread 5, while the print/acroread7 port was created for Acroread 7. So your ports collection is out-of-date, but only by a few days. :-) I did not have any problems when I installed either of them on a fairly clean system a few days ago. (I originally installed print/acroread when it was a version 7, and the deinstalled it and installed version 5 when the port was changed back.) For me teh linux-libraries it depends on was pulled in automatically, just like they are supposed to be, so I it is something local to your system. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:44:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F22C16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:44:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53204.mail.yahoo.com (web53204.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C505D43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:44:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arangojoseluis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 79813 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2005 20:44:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 13:46:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF23016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7396143D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 813EC5155B; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:46:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:46:03 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andreas Davour Message-ID: <20050323134603.GA20235@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050323132750.GE19868@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:46:04 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:34:02PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > >On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:54:04PM +0100, Andreas Davour wrote: > >> > >>I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now > >>version 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and > >>since it is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, > >>some of those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? > >> > >>I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some > >>that suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD > >>library files, but that wont work. > >> > >>Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something > >>again? > > > >Sounds like you're running an out-of-date ports collection. >=20 > Well, I updated it just days ago when I installed my new kernel. Maybe=20 > the port was broken just those days I looked then. If no others have the= =20 > same problem I guess I must have been "lucky" to get it right when it=20 > broke then. :) The ports collection is usually very quickly changing. Within hours of a bug being reported, it is often fixed. Therefore, when you see a bug but only get around to reporting it a few days later, you should either * first check whether it's already been fixed * at least check whether it's already been reported (i.e. consult the freebsd-ports mailing list archives) Thanks, Kris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQXMaWry0BWjoQKURAgX7AKDyPFQBD5s7/g+jR31hqt8pd/wHTgCglJ/i 6tLnXeV/5om7eCyE3FCqJjg= =SLmH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:10:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web81002.mail.yahoo.com (web81002.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F23443D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jprez1980@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20050323141010.6422.qmail@web81002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.90.100.209] by web81002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:10:10 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:10:10 -0800 (PST) From: JP To: fandino@ng.fadesa.es In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:12 -0000 Unfortunately I don't think it would work in my case although its a good idea. My problem is that my Windows 2000 Server (PDC) contains all the user information and FreeBSD authenticates against it. Supposedly, a person telneting in would be authenticated with winbind and if no home directory exists it would be created by the mkhomedir.so file. It doesn't appear that many people have experienced missing this file, not having much luck finding anything on google about it. JP fandino wrote: JP wrote: > I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file > named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories > after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 > Release, and Samba 3. I am unable to locate this file anywhere. I'm using "preexec" as a workaround to the missing mkhomedir. [homes] comment = Home Directories valid users = %S path = /samba/%u read only = No browseable = No # automatic home directories creation root preexec = if [ ! -d "/samba/%u/" ] ;\ then { mkdir -p "/samba/%u/.winprofile" ;\ chown -R %u "/samba/%u" ; \ chmod -R 0700 "/samba/%u" ;} ; \ fi _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:20:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6A016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D2F43D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zhongyuanyilang@mail.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])E90561800132 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:21 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 23 Mar 2005 14:20:21 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D51104BEAD; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: from [218.18.47.183] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for zhongyuanyilang@mail.com; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:21 -0500 From: "yang ning" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:21 -0500 Importance: high X-Originating-Ip: 218.18.47.183 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050323142021.D51104BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: need your help, thanks! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:22 -0000 I have tried times and times to download a copy of FreeBSD fro= m your FTP site. However, every time I failed. It seemed to me that the tra= nsfering speed is unbearably slow. What's worse, somehow I was black-listed by the administrator.( Maybe be= cause I tried too much times to download from your site. ) I'm using an ADSL line, and usually the speed is fairly quick. In additi= on, I only happened to such problems in your site. I need your help, many thanks! Faithfully User YangNing --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up f= or Ads Free at Mail.com [1]http://www.mail.com/?sr=3Dsignup References 1. 3D"http://mail01.mail.com/scripts/payment/adtracking.cgi?bannercode= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:23:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E458316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:23:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiba.meibin.jp (shiba.meibin.jp [211.18.246.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27D4B43D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 34011 invoked by uid 1011); 23 Mar 2005 14:23:24 -0000 Received: from 192.168.10.8 by shiba.meibin.jp (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.83/705. spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-4.7/3.0):. Processed in 1.268214 secs); 23 Mar 2005 14:23:24 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=3.0 X-Antivirus-MEIBIN-Mail-From: lukek@meibin.net via shiba.meibin.jp X-Antivirus-MEIBIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(192.168.10.8):SA:0(-4.7/3.0):. Processed in 1.268214 secs Process 34003) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.8?) (lukek@meibin.net@192.168.10.8) by shiba.meibin.jp with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 14:23:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:20:41 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: "yang ning" In-Reply-To: <20050323142021.D51104BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050323142021.D51104BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-Id: <20050323231941.4239.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: need your help, thanks! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:23:44 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:21 -0500 "yang ning" spake thus: > > I have tried times and times to download a copy of FreeBSD from your > FTP site. However, every time I failed. It seemed to me that the tra nsfering speed is unbearably slow. > > What's worse, somehow I was black-listed by the administrator.( Maybe > because I tried too much times to download from your site. ) > > I'm using an ADSL line, and usually the speed is fairly quick. In > addition, I only happened to such problems in your site. > > I need your help, many thanks! > > Faithfully User > > YangNing > -- Are you downloading from a mirror site close to you ? Check the website for a list of mirrors that are close to your area. Good Luck LukeK -- <> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:29:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284D216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ew.co.za (mail.ew.co.za [209.203.4.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7422543D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@mnet-online.de) X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by EW virus scanning services (www.ew.co.za) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (unverified [62.154.197.171]) by ew.co.za (EW Mail Services) with ESMTP id 22542 for multiple; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:29:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20050323142021.D51104BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050323142021.D51104BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <908692a325fad3d72563942e66b8e520@mnet-online.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stephan Lichtenauer Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:29:11 +0100 To: "yang ning" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: s01@lichtenauer.co.za cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: need your help, thanks! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:29:35 -0000 Am 23.03.2005 um 15:20 schrieb yang ning: > > I have tried times and times to download a copy of FreeBSD fro m > your > FTP site. However, every time I failed. It seemed to me that the > tra nsfering speed is unbearably slow. > > Hello YangNing, I suggest you try to use one of the mirrors that are closer to you, you find a long list of mirrors all around the world here: http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors- ftp.html Good luck and have fun with FreeBSD! :) Stephan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 15:19:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:19:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (caliban.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC6043D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:19:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B631EB5; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:19:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:19:10 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20050323151910.GT86465@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does X-No-prize-winner: Nathanael User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Proper way to add 3rd party milters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:19:11 -0000 Howdy folks, I'm looking at some milters that would be very useful to my mail architecture (milter-ahead is one I'm looking at deploying very soon). What's the best way to add 3rd-party milters so that it's still maintainable? I'm thinking of writing a port around it (using mail/rbl-milter) because I could then use the ports infrastructure to upgrade. Does this method work well when using milters with the sendmail in the base OS? What are other folks doing to solve this sort of problem? -T -- Truth suffers from too much analysis. - Ancient Fremen Saying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 15:41:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C007C16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraken.noc.utoronto.ca (kraken.noc.utoronto.ca [128.100.97.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897243D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@noc.utoronto.ca) Received: from mikep (mikep.noc.utoronto.ca [128.100.97.13]) by kraken.noc.utoronto.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j2NFfKUf010113 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:41:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02d201c52fbe$d03dcd10$0dc237c0@noc.utoronto.ca> From: "Network Security" To: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:41:20 -0500 Organization: U/Toronto Network Operations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: installInitial: Couldn't clone the bootfloppy onto the root file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Network Security List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:41:44 -0000 I am trying to install FreeBSD in slice 2 (WinXP already installed in slice 1), both by 'install.cfg' and manually. All works fine when I use the entire disk, using partitions 'da0s1X'. I can create slice 2, with type 165, but when I try to lay out the filesystems and do the 'commit', I get the following errors: 'Copying return error status of 1!' '/: write failed, filesystem is full' 'installInitial: Couldn't clone the bootfloppy onto the root file system. Aborting!' An emergency shell shows that the device files 'da0s2a' through 'da0s2f' exist in '/dev'. What am I missing? Thanks, Mike. -- Mike Peterson -- Network Security Specialist -- Computer and Network Services E-mail: security@noc.utoronto.ca WWW: http://www.noc.utoronto.ca/ Tel: 416-978-5230 Fax: 416-971-1362 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 15:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF4F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B0543D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j2NFkK3I001230; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:46:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A4E906459; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:46:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:46:20 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: jose luis Message-ID: <20050323154620.GA62415@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: jose luis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050322204403.79811.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050322204403.79811.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio player (was: ayuda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:46:23 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 02:44:03PM -0600, jose luis wrote: > hi my name is joseph i saw a command named "play" y want to known if i > can use it for listen to music Depends on which port it comes from. If you have the "play" port installed (use "pkg_info|grep play" to test), it can only play RIFF and u-law audio files, which is not very usefull. If you have play from the "sox" port installed (use "pkg_info|grep sox" to test), that should recognize more formats. If you are using the X Window System, I would recommend installing "xmms" from /usr/ports/multimedia/xmms. It can play a lot of audio file formats, like wav, MP3, ogg and flac, and you can compile playlists etc. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQY9MEnfvsMMhpyURAiGXAJ4xc6FIdt3TSnWI2PyXZFFSz8dhDwCfdoXY g80EAbYOfG6B5GgkkCRtPxo= =XK68 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638CD16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE9A43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050323161156.VHFX21280.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:56 +0000 Received: from llama.fishballoon.org ([81.104.196.104]) by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP <20050323161156.PVEM1187.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@llama.fishballoon.org>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:56 +0000 Received: from scott by llama.fishballoon.org with local (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1DE8SY-00050s-DP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:54 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Anthony Atkielski Message-ID: <20050323161153.GA19222@llama.fishballoon.org> References: <423E116D.50805@usmstudent.com> <423EEE60.2050205@dial.pipex.com> <110900121.20050323034640@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <110900121.20050323034640@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE i386 Sender: Scott Mitchell cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:11:59 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 03:46:40AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > But I don't really know for sure, because nothing is documented, and > nobody here knows anything. Anthony, Have you filed a PR for this problem? A search for your name in the FreeBSD bug database and the freebsd-bugs archive didn't turn up anything relevant, so I'm guessing not. You may or may not be aware that most of the FreeBSD developers don't subscribe to the -questions list, so the people who do know something about this are unlikely to have seen any of your messages. Oddly enough, filing a PR is the official, supported way to Report a Problem with FreeBSD and the best way to make sure a developer at least looks at it... I don't recall the details, but I seem to remember your problem was quite specific in terms of hardware, etc. It might be worth reading the PR guidelines at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/index.html before submitting your report, to make sure you include all of the necessary information to help with diagnosing the problem. Regards, Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:27:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C2C16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:27:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BC443D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:27:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mbsd@pacbell.net) Received: from sotec.home (adsl-64-166-23-88.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.166.23.88])j2NGMrbb028712; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:22:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= X-X-Sender: mikko@sotec.home To: Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050323082230.L51498@sotec.home> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 and too many files open... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:27:02 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 Axel.Gruner@suedfactoring.de wrote: > Hi, > > i run into a problem on a FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE Applicationserver (2GB of RAM, > 4GB Swap, Dual XEON 3.06Ghz). > The box serves the "xfrce4-panel" for 80 Network Clients via ssh so the > Users can start OpenOffice.org and firefox from that panel. > It is goin very well, except a message (and also a problem) i run into the > last day. > If i tried to open firefox from a networkclient and received the message > "too many files open...". I saw that message on 3 different Network Clients > and just after a fresh configure and the first time starting firfox on > these Networkclients with that UID. > > I checked my configuration on the server about "openfiles": > > kern.openfiles:9306 > kern.maxfiles:65536 > > netstat -m > 3952 mbufs in use > 732/64000 mbuf clusters in use (current/max) > [...] > > "fstat" shows me 393 on User A and on User B 3459. I did not check the > other users. > > kern.maxfilesperproc: 5898 > kern.maxusers: 384 > > My /boot/loader.conf looks like: > kern.maxfiles="65536" > kern.ipc.nmbclusters=64000 > kern.ipc.nmbufs=256000 > kern.maxproc=8192 > kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096 > > So i do not get it, imho the configuration is just fine, but why do i get > the message "too many files open..."? I think there is a separate limit for sockets, which you may be hitting. Check with "sysctl kern.ipc | grep socket". $.02, /Mikko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:30:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD3E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:30:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94A2E43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:30:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83011 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 16:30:33 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=fvMeGWixIMWPA0EyFA4Dt0DGmQmQB/bfjHml4sQFmtSXD4AJhGRCMVxQeszuObR9Hvh8oUrIa6n4etRToBUDtLDNUcQdzifmnkcBqACrR6g81MXpWcGLNYiAomNqUtaIZ09VI0Z6d7mj/gaL8w4mp/QACmYLHJvd8XDL5E/mOOg= ; Message-ID: <20050323163033.83009.qmail@web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:30:33 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:30:33 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Doug Paquette , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Teaming / Load Sharing of NIC Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:30:34 -0000 --- Doug Paquette wrote: > Group, > > I have an HP Proliant DL380 G3 and I am interested > in > teaming or load sharing (what ever its called) my > two > NIC cards that are in my server. > > I have been reading about this that I am suppose to > find free bsd drivers to make this work??? > > I am interested in doing this, but dont know what to > do or where to start, is there anyone who has done > this before with my kind of setup (dl380 server and > free bsd O/S) that can either point me in the right > direction, explain to me how to do this, or walk me > through it? I am curious about why people want this. Are you having problems with your ethernet lines going down? Is GigE not fast enough for you? It is very strange why this is necessary? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:31:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB7916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:31:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC57843D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NGVjhp074714; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:31:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:31:08 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:31:08 -0700 To: Christopher Nehren Message-ID: <20050323163107.GC644@vilot.com> References: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:31:56 -0000 > Do you mean that you have your system set to load X immediately upon > booting, and that you do not set the keyboard repeat rate before then? No, I boot into terminal mode and then log in and then issue startx. What happens for me currently is that I start up x and they key repeat rate is too slow. Even if I issue kbdcontrol -r fast before starting x. > If so, put the following in /etc/rc.conf: > keyrate="fast" Okay. I'll try that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:32:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A422E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B92A43D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bent@munat.com) Received: from [192.168.123.141] (c-24-18-111-28.client.comcast.net[24.18.111.28]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005032316315601200e7pu7e>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:01 +0000 Message-ID: <42419C07.6030806@munat.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:40:39 -0800 From: Ben Munat User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200503230050766.SM01504@lucy.wdsl.co.za> <200503231555.15710.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200503231555.15710.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apache compile prob in portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:32:02 -0000 > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 3:53 pm, Niq wrote: > >>Umm I had a similar problem , do a cvsup on ure whole ports tree ,and then >>perhaps a portupgrade -a . I remember it had something to do with a package >>in the textconv tree. Hope this helps > > > I just finished doing a complete cvsup with all ports & src and a > "portupgrade -aDk -m BATCH=yes" before i got this problem as it is 1 of a few > ports that dont upgrade. Just wanted to throw a "me too" in here... only with portmanager. Same error message. Luckily this is on my home machine, so I'm not too concerned about apache. Still rather annoying however... b From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:34:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D0416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:34:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D00A43D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:34:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) id j2NGYYWX042544; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:33 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Tillman Hodgson Message-ID: <20050323163433.GB19890@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050323151910.GT86465@seekingfire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323151910.GT86465@seekingfire.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Proper way to add 3rd party milters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:34:35 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 23), Tillman Hodgson said: > I'm looking at some milters that would be very useful to my mail > architecture (milter-ahead is one I'm looking at deploying very > soon). > > What's the best way to add 3rd-party milters so that it's still > maintainable? I'm thinking of writing a port around it (using > mail/rbl-milter) because I could then use the ports infrastructure to > upgrade. Does this method work well when using milters with the > sendmail in the base OS? What are other folks doing to solve this > sort of problem? There shouldn't be any issues at all. Just install the milter, create an rc script to start it up, and print a message asking the user to add the appropriate INPUT_MAIL_FILTER macro to their .mc file. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA8416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A2C43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NGZZDg075094; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:35:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:34:58 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:34:58 -0700 To: Christopher Nehren Message-ID: <20050323163458.GA1383@vilot.com> References: <20050322153446.GA920@vilot.com> <20050323163107.GC644@vilot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323163107.GC644@vilot.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:35:45 -0000 > > If so, put the following in /etc/rc.conf: > > keyrate="fast" > > Okay. I'll try that. Well, that didn't work. It sets the key repeat rate, but when I start X it goes back to defaults. At least for the X session. I'm guessing there's a configuration somewhere for WindowMaker that is re-setting it. :c( Hmmm. I'll have to poke around some more ..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:39:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1656B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:39:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C95BA43D53 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:39:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94817 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 16:39:27 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=lqTqiGrF2p8GvinPEgj3FKV0lQHl5RbTQXBWXqJ76VYD6h8Y8AZpC3njBtl3o0SsH5J4gK7FkAzB21uSoh1zpk+4IB+yZ0nnDyZop529uBwRGbVZj4uFcQG1PtKITzJWtPBW3j7JXEVvKMqF82waqvp/1d6whunRzzJ3nRMiaA8= ; Message-ID: <20050323163927.94815.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:39:27 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:39:27 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Emanuel Strobl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:39:28 -0000 --- Emanuel Strobl wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 01:19 schrieb Boris > Spirialitious: > > -- Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris > > > > > Spirialitious: > > > > I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em > > > > card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs > traffic > > > > and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is > > > > about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system > run > > > > with 85% load. How could be so slow? What > tuning > > > > extra is needed for amd64 kernels? > > > > > > 200kB/s sounds like misconfigured > duplex/negotiation > > > mode. > > > But why don't you try FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1? Many > > > performance improvements were > > > achieved and stability is given in the -STABLE > > > branch (BETA1 is a relese of > > > FreeBSD 5-STABLE) > > > > I am sorry, I mean 200Mb/s. It is a controlled > stream > > Unfortunately that's a not so uncommon result with > em and 5.3. There are > tuning methods but they won't give the big kick. > > Like mentioned, try 5.4 (BETA1), depending on your > employment you'll see > tremendous improvement, I don't have values handy > nor can I confirm that for > amd64, but you really wnat to try out, especially if > this box isn't > productive yet, which it isn't if I understood > correctly. I am running 5.4-Pre now. Its the same. Everyone always say try new version, but it always the same. i compare em to em, only difference is amd64 vs i386. So amd64 O/S is this much slower than i386? So why anyone use? Is like nobody know what is going on with this OS. Before, people tell me Opteron on i386 no good. But now that I test, its much better than amd64. Why is there always excuse with FreeBSD 5? Always try next version. Always same slow result? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 16:49:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAF143D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:49:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NGn8Yx000390; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:49:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:49:04 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:49:04 -0700 To: Peter Risdon Message-ID: <20050323164316.GB1383@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4240D4EE.60004@vilot.com> <1111561796.751.348.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1111561796.751.348.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:49:40 -0000 Peter Risdon helpful contributes: > You don't _have_ to boot into single user mode. See below. Okay, cool. I have one last question (me thinks) before I attempt this. (and I'll attempt it on my home server, first, even though it is a 5.3 box. At least I can get practice). On the 4.9 server, what should my supfile's tag be? *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 Is that right? And I assume I would then be safe doing: rm -fr /usr/src cvsup stable-supfile [ re: going from 4.x to 5.x] > No, this would have some issues that you might be better avoiding > right now. I've since gathered that is the case. I can see it is possible, but since the server has two drives, I think I'll wait on this, install 5.3 on the second drive, and deal with that stuff then. > The only time I have ever had a problem with a remote upgrade within the > 4.x tree was when _I_ made a mistake. You think you're special, eh? :c) I make some JUICY mistakes sometimes, too!! > The only difference from the procedure in the handbook for a remote > upgrade is that you would not boot into single user mode at any point, > obviously, but instead do a normal reboot. Generally, I am the only user logged into the machine. So the only issue is running processes, which I am not all that worried about since right after the install I'm going to reboot..... > Do read /usr/src/UPDATING, consider what you might need > in /etc/make.conf and understand how mergemaster(8) works before > Starting. Thank you, Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:06:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41A616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.km.kongsberg.com (mail.kmss.no [193.69.71.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1837D43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chip.wiegand@simrad.com) To: "FreeBSD List" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_M4_01112005 Beta 3NP January 11, 2005 Message-ID: From: Chip Wiegand Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:05:57 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SMTP02/DMZ(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 23.03.2005 18:06:03, Serialize complete at 23.03.2005 18:06:03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: cvsup won't connect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:03 -0000 I have tried more than 6 cvsup mirrors and cannot get a connection to any of them. The message is simple enough - Cannot connect to cvsup2.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused Will retry at 09:00:00 Does cvsup use some non-standard port to connect thru? (The manual doesn't touch on this.) If so, the problem is probably the company firewall. -- Chip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:17:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38F716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:17:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F8D43D5F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:17:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vilarsen@accesscable.net) Received: from DadPC ([24.138.33.59]) by mx3.eastlink.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with SMTP id <0IDT002VMEON0Q@mx3.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:17:11 -0400 (AST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:17:10 -0400 From: Vilbon Arsenault To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <000501c52fcc$264cfa20$6401a8c0@DadPC> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: mixer: /dev/mixer: Device not configured X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:17:13 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:19:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:19:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F1E43D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:19:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDT00B7MERTL445@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C63F2CE751; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:19:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:19:04 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503230919.04561.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: cvsup won't connect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:19:07 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:05 am, Chip Wiegand wrote: > I have tried more than 6 cvsup mirrors and cannot get a connection to > any of them. The message is simple enough - Cannot connect to > cvsup2.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused Will retry at 09:00:00 > Does cvsup use some non-standard port to connect thru? (The manual > doesn't touch on this.) If so, the problem is probably the company > firewall. -- > Chip cvsup uses port 5999 see /etc/services -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:33:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4D116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:33:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06EA43D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net ([68.55.250.33]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050323173316014001lpdee>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:33:17 +0000 Received: from rajarajan.homeunix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2NHXDhw029898 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:33:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr@rajarajan.homeunix.net) Received: (from rr@localhost) by rajarajan.homeunix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2NHXDgu029784 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:33:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rr) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:33:13 -0500 From: Rajarajan Rajamani To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Rajarajan Rajamani, 10083 Fall Rain Dr., Laurel, MD 20723-5772 Phone: +301-776-7060 Mobile: +301-526-7325 WWW-Home-Page: http://rajarajan.homeunix.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on rajarajan.homeunix.net Subject: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:33:18 -0000 Hi, I had asked this in a slightly different post but there was no reply so I am posting again. Is it possible to find out which port has a particular executable/script file ? It took me some time to find out if the script epstopdf was in latex or tex or tetex! Any easy way to do this ? Regards, Rajarajan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:36:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF35816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:36:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCE643D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:36:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDT00F3SFLK9NK2@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:36:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 28B722CE751; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:36:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:36:54 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503230936.54842.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:36:57 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:33 am, Rajarajan Rajamani wrote: > Hi, > I had asked this in a slightly different post but there was no reply > so I am posting again. > > Is it possible to find out which port has a particular > executable/script file ? It took me some time to find > out if the script epstopdf was in latex or tex or tetex! > > Any easy way to do this ? > > Regards, > > Rajarajan Here is an example: pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/bin/nedit /usr/X11R6/bin/nedit was installed by package nedit-5.5 -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:39:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F27216A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:39:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11E343D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:39:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so238104wra for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:39:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kRmtHgsrqUCfEj6CGgjUfjJdOEvZSV3ZdBqWFpP3AECzYWDISSOvT+moBT9AffoC+WET3wPfYZVReHxNi1hh1KdPMUfXOsn7Rs7VePhAEVGIYFsPteZiqo3gElZt/JiJ8E2l0rSjFCsm4gk3Z5uBFcMcl8jLOQj9MZ+E7gLZn7A= Received: by 10.54.101.20 with SMTP id y20mr511226wrb; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:39:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:39:42 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <001b01c52f37$290494c0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <001b01c52f37$290494c0$6400a8c0@homevwz5ek429r> Subject: Re: more info again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:39:45 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:30:40 -0500, Francis Whittington wrote: > I'll let you know how its going from time to time if thats ok. I have only one question about this. If I still want to use my wireless router as a switch.....will it work? > Thanks, > Buddy It's usually no problem to use a wireless router as a wireless access point / switch. Just ignore the "WAN" port on the device. GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:47:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D4116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E4743D60 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from cc-mail.cityofpaloalto.org ([172.17.1.1]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:47:58 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:47:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Network Interface Card Setup thread-index: AcUv0G3BsVNXdwCcSHS4A26v2ma9bA== From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 17:47:58.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[7385F8B0:01C52FD0] Subject: Network Interface Card Setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:47:59 -0000 Hi, I have got a mismatch Duplex problem. Can someone confirm these commands = to use with sysinstall. I want to change various options for the network = card or where can I find these commands. * media 100baseTx mediaopt autoselect * media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex Thanks, VJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:51:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A838A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:51:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EA043D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:51:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id m.1a8.34385108 (16112); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d35 (mblk-d35.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.219]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID124-3ef04241ac9839a; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:51:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:51:20 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FDE80E414F1A-90C-28FE0@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.219) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:51:20 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.219 Subject: Re: Network Interface Card Setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:51:28 -0000 man driver, such as 'man em' for the em driver -----Original Message----- From: Dixit, Viraj To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:47:49 -0800 Subject: Network Interface Card Setup Hi, I have got a mismatch Duplex problem. Can someone confirm these commands to use with sysinstall. I want to change various options for the network card or where can I find these commands. * media 100baseTx mediaopt autoselect * media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex Thanks, VJ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:52:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7491116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C8743D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:53:13 +0000 Message-ID: <4241ACE3.5080304@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:35 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> <200503230936.54842.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200503230936.54842.ringworm01@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 17:53:13.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F140A40:01C52FD1] Subject: Re: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:38 -0000 Michael C. Shultz wrote: >>Is it possible to find out which port has a particular >>executable/script file ? It took me some time to find >>out if the script epstopdf was in latex or tex or tetex! >> >>Any easy way to do this ? >> >> >Here is an example: > >pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/bin/nedit >/usr/X11R6/bin/nedit was installed by package nedit-5.5 > > I think the question might have been about a file from port which wasn't yet installed, in which case it's a little more time consuming: % find /usr/ports -type f -name pkg-plist -exec egrep -H epstopdf {} \; /usr/ports/chinese/cwtex/pkg-plist:share/texmf/cwtex/help/epstopdf.txt /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/pkg-plist:bin/epstopdf /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf/pkg-plist:%%TEXMFDISTDIR%%/doc/help/Catalogue/entries/epstopdf.html /usr/ports/print/teTeX-texmf/pkg-plist:%%TEXMFDISTDIR%%/tex/latex/oberdiek/epstopdf.sty /usr/ports/textproc/rubber/pkg-plist:%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/rubber/graphics/epstopdf.py /usr/ports/textproc/rubber/pkg-plist:%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/rubber/graphics/epstopdf.pyc /usr/ports/japanese/ptex-common/pkg-plist:bin/epstopdf --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:55:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122B016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:55:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ED143D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DE9vr-00073v-Hi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:46:18 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:46:15 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:46:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20050322204403.79811.qmail@web53204.mail.yahoo.com> <20050323154620.GA62415@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: audio player (was: ayuda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:55:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Roland Smith scribbled these curious markings: > If you are using the X Window System, I would recommend installing > "xmms" from /usr/ports/multimedia/xmms. It can play a lot of audio file > formats, like wav, MP3, ogg and flac, and you can compile playlists etc. Although you'll need a plugin to play FLAC files. Regardless of X usage, I would personally recommend mplayer. Sure, it's intended as a movie player, but I've yet to encounter a media file that it can't play. :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQacnk/lo7zvzJioRAk7lAJ9Qg5gfxYHYSfQCiNvw1M692OeEkQCfetex mCXW8eHWNOMUdP2P9P+GxFI= =Z75C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:56:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5ED16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:56:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.fluidhosting.com (mail1.fluidhosting.com [66.150.201.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A93DE43D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:56:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@winters.cc) Received: (qmail 81163 invoked by uid 399); 23 Mar 2005 17:56:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.168.100?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 17:56:09 -0000 Message-ID: <4241ADB6.2060103@winters.cc> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:56:06 -0500 From: Rob Winters User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remington References: <423F5972.4070800@winters.cc> <1111456654.1436.0.camel@baby> <4240460F.4070502@winters.cc> <1111562811.744.1.camel@baby> In-Reply-To: <1111562811.744.1.camel@baby> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X problems with Dell Inspiron 2600s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:56:11 -0000 Remington wrote: > Please attach full Xorg.log and xorg.conf. This wouldnt happen to be a > widescreen would it? I sent the full config and log in the first message. This is a 1024x768 screen. Cheapest laptop made; too cheap to put a property sticker on. /// Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D628F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B60443D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.60.51f438e1 (16099) for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d35 (mblk-d35.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.219]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID113-3ee34241aec31a9; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:00:35 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:00:35 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FDE958CAFD0B-90C-29197@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050323165203.38506.qmail@web90201.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.219) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:00:35 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <20050323165203.38506.qmail@web90201.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.219 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:00:47 -0000 The answer, Boris, is that the "team" has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon "determined" that 10,000 ints/second was "optimal". Of course if you're passing 10Kpps that means you get an interrupt for every packet. They're playing pin the tail on the donkey. : > Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 01:19 schrieb Boris > Spirialitious: > > -- Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris > > > > > Spirialitious: > > > > I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em > > > > card. We have test bed with about 200Kbs > traffic > > > > and we route through 5.3/i386 system. Load is > > > > about 50%. With same settings, amd64 system > run > > > > with 85% load. How could be so slow? What > tuning > > > > extra is needed for amd64 kernels? > > > > > > 200kB/s sounds like misconfigured > duplex/negotiation > > > mode. > > > But why don't you try FreeBSD 5.4-BETA1? Many > > > performance improvements were > > > achieved and stability is given in the -STABLE > > > branch (BETA1 is a relese of > > > FreeBSD 5-STABLE) > > > > I am sorry, I mean 200Mb/s. It is a controlled > stream > > Unfortunately that's a not so uncommon result with > em and 5.3. There are > tuning methods but they won't give the big kick. > > Like mentioned, try 5.4 (BETA1), depending on your > employment you'll see > tremendous improvement, I don't have values handy > nor can I confirm that for > amd64, but you really wnat to try out, especially if > this box isn't > productive yet, which it isn't if I understood > correctly. I am running 5.4-Pre now. Its the same. Everyone always say try new version, but it always the same. i compare em to em, only difference is amd64 vs i386. So amd64 O/S is this much slower than i386? So why anyone use? Is like nobody know what is going on with this OS. Before, people tell me Opteron on i386 no good. But now that I test, its much better than amd64. Why is there always excuse with FreeBSD 5? Always try next version. Always same slow result? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:05:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBEE16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2576C43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:06:08 +0000 Message-ID: <4241AFEA.8010401@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:30 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040627 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050322160306.1675.qmail@web81005.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050322160306.1675.qmail@web81005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 18:06:08.0605 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD1C38D0:01C52FD2] Subject: Re: mkhomedir.so is missing =( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:05:33 -0000 JP wrote: >I need some help trying to locate or how to obtain/build a file named "mkhomedir.so" this file is needed to create home directories after logging in successfully though winbind. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 Release, and Samba 3. > > % locate mkhome /usr/src/contrib/libpam/doc/modules/pam_mkhomedir.sgml /usr/src/contrib/libpam/modules/pam_mkhomedir /usr/src/contrib/libpam/modules/pam_mkhomedir/Makefile /usr/src/contrib/libpam/modules/pam_mkhomedir/pam_mkhomedir.c --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:14:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945A216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D3143D5F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDT009CSHBCPN@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:00 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Andreas Davour Message-id: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:02 -0000 On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Andreas Davour entered: > > I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now version 7 > (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and since it is a > Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, some of those > libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? > > I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some that > suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD library > files, but that wont work. > > Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something again? > > /andreas I've problems with linux libraries too (also after an update of my portstree). I get: ... /compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory marco@yokozuna $ locate libXrandr.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 ... Is this the same problem you're having? Marco -- The advertisement is the most truthful part of a newspaper -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E3816A4D7 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32A243D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEAEb-0001Aa-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:05:37 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:05:37 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:05:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <200503230050766.SM01504@lucy.wdsl.co.za> <200503231555.15710.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <42419C07.6030806@munat.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache compile prob in portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Ben Munat scribbled these curious markings: > Just wanted to throw a "me too" in here... only with portmanager. Same error message. > Luckily this is on my home machine, so I'm not too concerned about apache. Still rather > annoying however... That's odd. I've been showing FreeBSD to a friend over the past few days, and he just installed Apache 2.x without any issues earlier this morning (EST timezone). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQafXk/lo7zvzJioRAnheAJ0QHieDlx7lcSBDKj/t+hHj48DmKQCgjgfN lho0ns3kqv2rw0G6ZxDMiuE= =qGih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:14:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1C716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3344743D48 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2NIEeMA002355; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:40 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Tom Vilot In-Reply-To: <20050323164316.GB1383@vilot.com> References: <20050322162216.GA1354@vilot.com> <1111509994.751.306.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050322170234.GA1576@vilot.com> <1111513253.751.314.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4240D4EE.60004@vilot.com> <1111561796.751.348.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <20050323164316.GB1383@vilot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:39 +0000 Message-Id: <1111601679.756.20.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PHP / Apache bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:14:46 -0000 On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 09:49 -0700, Tom Vilot wrote: > Peter Risdon helpful contributes: [...] > > On the 4.9 server, what should my supfile's tag be? > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 If you like. I'd use *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 The difference has been discussed exhaustively on this list before. This is a good example: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/053176.html > > Is that right? > > And I assume I would then be safe doing: > > rm -fr /usr/src No need for this line. If you've ever made world or kernel before there's a BIG need for: # cd /usr/obj # chflags -R noschg * # rm -rf * before doing it again. But this is all in the handbook. > cvsup stable-supfile #cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:18:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B5316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from host285.ipowerweb.com (host285.ipowerweb.com [66.235.211.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9478543D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@owlpeople.com) Received: (qmail 9496 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2005 18:18:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host285.ipowerweb.com) (127.0.0.1) by host285.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 18:18:27 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: AtMail Corp 3.61 - http://webbasedemail.com/ X-Origin: 65.33.53.238 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:18:24 Message-Id: <20050323181841.9478543D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Need "find" binary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:18:44 -0000 --> On one of my web sites, that used to run Solaris 2.7 OS, I had a functional cron script, mirroring a Solaris Server at home. The web site was moved to a BSD Server, without access to many binaries like "find". Can anyone tell me WHERE I can grab this one binary off a BSD system to ftp to the new server? Without it, my web server is reaching excessive "disk quota" and I cannot "find" the offending files. Please reply to freebsd-questions or directly to me at bsd@owlpeople.com Thanks in advance ----------------------------------------- Need "find" binary for FREE BSD 4.9 - REL p11 Need to place this command on a remote server for a cron script to function. Please reply to bsd@owlpeople.com (Alan) Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:22:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B235B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F83E43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3AAC63AB2 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:22:50 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: VL48y0i+GtrUQ3lVqARjvw 1111602165 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-75-117.access.as9105.com [80.41.75.117]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9498570159 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:51 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: > The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. > Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. > > Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive > to give me more than three slices? This is where the > handbook gets muddy. > > Can anybody 'splain this better?? FreeBSD is not Linux. Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries and an extended partition. FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put directly onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since it isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with some BIOSes. Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps a group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You only need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. > Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? The one called "Installing FreeBSD" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:29:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA5F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:29:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-gw2.fusemail.net (smtp-gw2.fusemail.net [65.61.162.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302143D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by smtp-gw2.fusemail.net with esmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DEAaX-0000jU-SP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:28:17 -0500 Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DEAb7-0001uB-0q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:28:53 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:29:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4742.209.87.176.4.1111602542.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:29:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Simple bash script to grep files for bad keywords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:29:11 -0000 Hello, I am trying to write a simple bash script that will grep all files in a directory (except ones that start with "00") for certain bad keywords. Here is what I have so far: #!/bin/bash # This is a simple script to check all sql scripts for bad keywords BAD_KEYWORDS='spool echo timing commit rollback' for i in $BAD_KEYWORDS; do echo "*********************************"; echo "GREPing for bad keyword '$i'" echo "*********************************"; grep $i ./*; done However, I'm not sure how to make it not grep the files that start with "00". Can anyone help me with this? Thanks /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:42:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60AB16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54001.mail.yahoo.com (web54001.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1909543D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:42:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pm940@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 13060 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 18:42:02 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=C0LropN5aVqwXOo82Qpn0iFMLJVu2me2zXqTvGuMulPgta7sZRfZlrt46TqCi4qYWLNxPHG3AONi0C860ZKkep8Gj2sGq4649H89h9bZ6Sg3a/CZ3HJxEFYWXVrPHDxlCQQerv6gphWRpeXTPQ5o/8YtFxecYcbUijvcP/HkOsI= ; Message-ID: <20050323184202.13058.qmail@web54001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.237.122.17] by web54001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:42:02 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: Nine Forty To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Step-by-step instructions for MD_ROOT embedded, please? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:42:03 -0000 I am having problems building an embedded kernel + root filesystem image for FreeBSD-5.3. I had previously succeeded on 4.11. For 4.11 I created a filesystem using vnconfig, disklabel, newfs, etc. and installed it into the kernel using write_mfs_in_kernel. I built a kernel with MD_ROOT and MD_ROOT_SIZE set to 32M. I selected the MD filesystem by setting vfs.root.mountfrom in /boot/loader.conf. Following these same steps in 5.3 (except using mdconfig, and hacking write_mfs_in_kernel (setting SBOFF to 64K)) the kernel failed to find the filesystem. If I let the kernel boot with the disk filesystem I still can't mount md0 - a valid filesystem is not found. I would greatly appreciate a detailed, idiot-proof, step-by-step literal command list starting with nothing and ending with a kernel with a working embedded filesystem. I don't need the filesystem to have contents, just to be there and be found... once the kernel boots with md0 and fails to find /sbin/init, I can take it from there. Looking on the mailing list archives and on the web I get the impression that this is not a common procedure... I haven't been able to find instructions anywhere. I hope someone can help me. Regards, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:43:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FE716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:43:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A38E43D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2NIgKsS008499; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:21 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2NIgvwu082229; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2NIgvWX082228; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:57 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brian John Message-ID: <20050323184257.GA78765@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <4742.209.87.176.4.1111602542.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4742.209.87.176.4.1111602542.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple bash script to grep files for bad keywords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:43:02 -0000 On 2005-03-23 12:29, Brian John wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to write a simple bash script that will grep all files > in a directory (except ones that start with "00") for certain bad > keywords. Here is what I have so far: > #!/bin/bash > > # This is a simple script to check all sql scripts for bad keywords > > BAD_KEYWORDS='spool echo timing commit rollback' > > for i in $BAD_KEYWORDS; > do > echo "*********************************"; > echo "GREPing for bad keyword '$i'" > echo "*********************************"; > grep $i ./*; > done > > However, I'm not sure how to make it not grep the files that start > with "00". Can anyone help me with this? Use xargs, since it will buy you the extra feature of being able to search through arbitrarily large numbers of files: for _word in ${BAD_KEYWORDS} ;do find . | grep -v '^/00' |\ xargs grep "${_word}" /dev/null done Tips: - The quotes in "${_word}" are probably optional, but it's better to be safe than sorry :-) - The /dev/null is there so that grep will get at least 2 file arguments, even if there is just one file in the current directory, effectively forcing grep(1) to print the filename of this one file if it happens to match the pattern. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:55:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0097916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51006.mail.yahoo.com (web51006.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C02343D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 29136 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 18:55:02 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PhgSQ1ClRqqY7FjNefDNVERU/KhRbEwkwZHf2lmpZqCfPwtomcz+G609Y/F+iHJneR1+5HVJyJS9n0ridiKx1FRX/Q1DugFskaFwKBON2iGy9s1KB0GG+I/AMEzBAfvlFs9ccCHteWzo1mTxAAcKUqx6C8AAfFqoCLqlkzSxytU= ; Message-ID: <20050323185502.29134.qmail@web51006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.49.86.137] by web51006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 02:55:02 CST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 02:55:02 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: pango.module X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:55:13 -0000 Hi, i have this pango trouble when I start 2 apps. one is realplay and the other is acroread7. here is what it is: realplay: Error reading modules file ** (realplay.bin:6513): WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. ** (realplay.bin:6513): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Fixed 10 acroread7: Error reading modules file ** (acroread:6521): WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. ** (acroread:6521): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Fixed 10 ** (acroread:6521): WARNING **: Cannot open font file for font Fixed 8.3330078125 I googled around and looked through the mailing list, guessing this is related to my linux-base, what I have right now is linux_base-8-8.0_4, do I have to upgrade? if so, to which? thanks!! TFC Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 18:59:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E3716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:59:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409F143D5A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2NIxx6H015429; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:00:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2NIxxO0015428; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:59:59 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:59:56 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: > > The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. > > Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. > > > > Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive > > to give me more than three slices? This is where the > > handbook gets muddy. > > > > Can anybody 'splain this better?? > > FreeBSD is not Linux. > > Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 > primaries and an extended partition. > > FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put directly > onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since it > isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with some > BIOSes. > > Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps a > group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You only > need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. > > > > Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? > > The one called "Installing FreeBSD" If memory servers, the slices I created were ad0s2 / ad0s3 SWAP ad0s4 /usr I tagged ad0s2 to be bootable; selected everything to be installed and okay the create script. /usr had trouble with newfs because of a bad superblock in 0s4. My guess is that the difficulty stems from a foul-up from the disk labeling. I've been installing BSD since 4.1 at Cal and FreeBSD since 2.0.5; I'm familiar with the standard protocols. This is my first go at trying to dual-boot such different systems. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:00:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BCA16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F187943D53 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raymond.lualhati@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so261395wra for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:00:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nRB96W1Npd+xKcCEy0Rh7AR625Lwx9repYfKRuzoDj5R+wVLUsdY6ne8QnRfzeachy2KafXNB37fkYIt81bsWajk5NcwOA/5BJmDnSz915P9+6NT5PJWz91jGghTD7iGqOl8Aq9v2tnCVrhekW4G/x7C7eatxarh3G1PkjF80Lo= Received: by 10.54.98.17 with SMTP id v17mr569559wrb; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.22.17 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:00:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fbfbd7f050323110079d748c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:00:46 +0800 From: Raymond Lualhati To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: root passwrod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Raymond Lualhati List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:00:47 -0000 anyone know how to recover root password in red hat linux? -- Raymond Gosmo Lualhati Technical Support Enginner Asiagate Networks Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:02:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52C116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:02:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7125643D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:02:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152])j2NJ2EOg016987; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j2NJ2Bel014176; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:02:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050323181841.9478543D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20050323181841.9478543D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8c59867b34ff24ba4918b7750824bfec@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:02:08 -0500 To: bsd@owlpeople.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need "find" binary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:02:23 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 5:18 AM, bsd@owlpeople.com wrote: > --> On one of my web sites, that used to run Solaris 2.7 OS, I had a > functional > cron script, mirroring a Solaris Server at home. > > The web site was moved to a BSD Server, without access to many > binaries like "find". > Can anyone tell me WHERE I can grab this one binary off a BSD system > to ftp to > the new server? FreeBSD comes with /usr/bin/find. Are you sure that your cron script is using the full path to that program; or perhaps you need to set up a PATH in the cron script...? If that system truly does not have a /usr/bin/find, there is something wrong with the installation, you should probably update the system by building and installing world from source or from a CD. (ISO images of 4.11 are available on ftp.freebsd.org. Those images also would contain a working find binary if you just want that alone.) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:08:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E7316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1968043D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:08:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2NJ8Lq2023520; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j2NJ8JiU029534; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:08:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:08:19 -0500 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: RW Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:08:22 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > If memory servers, the slices I created were > ad0s2 / > ad0s3 SWAP > ad0s4 /usr People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use on FDISK partition, rather than using three... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:09:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6FC16A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CE943D5E for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 0F03849FE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:09:33 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s24591; Wed, 23 Mar 05 20:09:31 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE24649FC; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:09:31 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 9905C38012; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:09:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DEA5C002; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:09:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:09:31 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> Message-ID: References: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:09:37 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Andreas Davour entered: > >> >> I have hit upon another problem with my new system. Acroread is now version >> 7 (what was wrong with the previous version, Adobe? *shrug*) and since it >> is a Linux binary it naturally depends on Linux libraries. But, some of >> those libraries are missing. Anyone having the same problem? >> >> I searched google and the mailing lists for a solution, and found some that >> suggested telling the Linux ldconfig the localtion of the FreeBSD library >> files, but that wont work. >> >> Is the dependancies for the port broken, or have I missed something again? >> >> /andreas > > I've problems with linux libraries too (also after an update of my > portstree). I get: > > ... > /compat/linux/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: > error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > > marco@yokozuna $ locate libXrandr.so.2 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 > ... > > Is this the same problem you're having? Exactly the same. As Erik (et al) wrote, it will all be pulled in and resolved as dependencies if you have a sufficienyly up-to-date ports tree. Kind of annyoing that it wasn't caught before it was comitted at all, but considering the total confusion that reigns right now with two different acroread ports it's just what can be expected. I did a cvsup 30 minutes ago, and then it worked. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:10:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E11716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:10:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228C643D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA355E8C; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96139-09; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A337D5E8A; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:38 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <5fbfbd7f050323110079d748c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5fbfbd7f050323110079d748c4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:38 -0500 To: Raymond Lualhati X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root passwrod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:10:40 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 2:00 PM, Raymond Lualhati wrote: > anyone know how to recover root password in red hat linux? Sure. If you ask on a Linux list, they'd probably tell you to boot from a CD, mount the hard drive, and change /etc/password. Since you're asking here, maybe we should try to encourage you to recover your root password by installing FreeBSD instead? :-) -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:14:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1D716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from niobe.ijs.si (mail.ijs.si [193.2.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B10643D66 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) Received: from localhost (patsy.ijs.si [193.2.4.8]) by niobe.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48061DD5A7; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from niobe.ijs.si ([193.2.4.24]) by localhost (patsy.ijs.si [193.2.4.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 84002-02-3; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from idefix.ijs.si (unknown [IPv6:2001:1470:ff80:0:20e:cff:fe58:61c4]) by niobe.ijs.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97091DD59A; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.ijs.si (localhost.ijs.si [127.0.0.1]) by idefix.ijs.si (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2NJEdQr061258; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dejan.lesjak@ijs.si) From: Dejan Lesjak To: Tom Vilot Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:14:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503232014.39437.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ijs.si cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:46 -0000 Tom Vilot wrote: >> > If so, put the following in /etc/rc.conf: >> > keyrate="fast" >> >> Okay. I'll try that. > > Well, that didn't work. > > It sets the key repeat rate, but when I start X it goes back to > defaults. At least for the X session. > > I'm guessing there's a configuration somewhere for WindowMaker that is > re-setting it. :c( > > Hmmm. I'll have to poke around some more ..... Perhaps Option "AutoRepeat" can be of help. See kbd(4x) or keyboard(4x) manual for description. Dejan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:19:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F1B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:19:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57343D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:19:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E7C11D; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3672.216.220.59.169.1111605604.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "Gary Kline" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: RW Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:19:52 -0000 > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 06:22:43PM +0000, RW wrote: >> On Wednesday 23 March 2005 06:44, Gary Kline wrote: >> > The first CD boots 5.3 ad brings up /stand/sysinstall. >> > Every options I have tries sees the "NTFS" as ad0s1. >> > >> > Is there another choice to chose to divvy up the drive >> > to give me more than three slices? This is where the >> > handbook gets muddy. >> > >> > Can anybody 'splain this better?? >> >> FreeBSD is not Linux. >> >> Linux uses the same partitioning as Windows, 4 primary partitions, or 3 >> primaries and an extended partition. >> >> FreeBSD has its own type of partitioning scheme which you could put >> directly >> onto the disk, but this is known as "dangerously-dedicated mode" since >> it >> isn't compatible with other non-bsd OSs and might cause problems with >> some >> BIOSes. >> >> Most people will install FreeBSD in what's known as a slice, this wraps >> a >> group of native BSD partitions inside a normal PC primary partition. You >> only >> need one slice for a FreeBSD installation. >> >> >> > Which sections should I print out and go in a corner to read? >> >> The one called "Installing FreeBSD" > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > ad0s2 / Sorry for jumping in here but I've never seen a filesystem with a device name like that before. As I understand it the device name reads like this: ad0 <-- primary ATA disk on first IDE cable s2 <-- second slice (what DOS/Windows/Linux call a partition) a <-- first partition (BSD definition of a partition) Your list appears to be missing the 'a'. This would indicate to me that you mistyped your example or didn't run disklabel (or bsdlabel) to setup the FreeBSD partitions. Can one run newfs on the slice without using disklabel first? I didn't think that was possible. I know you can run disklabel directly on the disk (ie ad0) and you wind up with devices missing the 'sX' part, like ad0a. I do this to zip disks all the time. > ad0s3 SWAP > ad0s4 /usr > > I tagged ad0s2 to be bootable; selected everything to be > installed and okay the create script. /usr had trouble > with newfs because of a bad superblock in 0s4. My guess > is that the difficulty stems from a foul-up from the > disk labeling. > > I've been installing BSD since 4.1 at Cal and FreeBSD > since 2.0.5; I'm familiar with the standard protocols. > This is my first go at trying to dual-boot such > different systems. > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service > Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFED16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:25:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F51243D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDT004IRKMJ6L@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:25:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:25:31 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Andreas Davour Message-id: <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:25:33 -0000 On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Andreas Davour entered: > Exactly the same. > > As Erik (et al) wrote, it will all be pulled in and resolved as dependencies > if you have a sufficienyly up-to-date ports tree. > > Kind of annyoing that it wasn't caught before it was comitted at all, but > considering the total confusion that reigns right now with two different > acroread ports it's just what can be expected. > > I did a cvsup 30 minutes ago, and then it worked. > > /Andreas Hmm I also did a cvsup, but it makes no difference, I still get the sam error. I guess I have an other problem on my system. Marco -- "I'd love to go out with you, but there are important world issues that need worrying about." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:27:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F059416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8180843D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E928C11D; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:27:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2935.216.220.59.169.1111606070.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> References: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:27:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "Marco Beishuizen" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: Andreas Davour cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:27:37 -0000 > On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Andreas Davour entered: > >> Exactly the same. >> >> As Erik (et al) wrote, it will all be pulled in and resolved as >> dependencies >> if you have a sufficienyly up-to-date ports tree. >> >> Kind of annyoing that it wasn't caught before it was comitted at all, >> but >> considering the total confusion that reigns right now with two different >> acroread ports it's just what can be expected. >> >> I did a cvsup 30 minutes ago, and then it worked. >> >> /Andreas > > Hmm I also did a cvsup, but it makes no difference, I still get the sam > error. I guess I have an other problem on my system. You may need to do a make clean or a make distclean in the port directory after doing a cvsup. I've found that some ports don't realize that things have changed after a cvsup and so continue to try and build with half built old code. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:28:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4585116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:28:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7527543D53 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2NJSTlY015607; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2NJSTPf015606; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:28:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:28:29 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050323192829.GB15303@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <4240D81E.6060709@ec.rr.com> <20050323064422.GA11110@thought.org> <200503231822.44143.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050323185959.GA15303@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: Gary Kline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: RW Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:28:25 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > ad0s2 / > > ad0s3 SWAP > > ad0s4 /usr > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK ad0s2 any other way? thanks, gary > > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:34:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2762A16A4D0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:34:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41804.mail.yahoo.com (web41804.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A9F343D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 84861 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 19:34:39 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=UrQJoL63mL62orEyPpsDT9ijWUSt/L0rz40iyjPZDSA+NSKvIESj/8xyxOuOPgjRLFBU7a+C/3z+ei+REMD0QO8gblcE99MRi4Q32R4VpY9lRcVdX4m0Dv82HKjbzDxOJ22Tm6CwZqdjTi4ollJMLz6GrW1TQUsR7FYIDybsQAg= ; Message-ID: <20050323193439.84859.qmail@web41804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web41804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:34:38 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:34:38 -0800 (PST) From: NMH To: questions , amd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Panic With MPT driver on Opteron System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:34:41 -0000 Hello I am having a odd problem I hope someone can help with. I have a TYAN 2882 board with 4 gigs of memory and a single Opteron 248 Processor. I am using an Infortrend RAID controller that won't play nice with Adaptec at 320 speeds so I am using an LSI 1030 based PCI-X SCSI card instead of the built in Adaptec. Hence the mpt driver. The system is FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE from March 2nd. The system runs very fast but when testing under somewhat heavy load the system will panic and freeze with: Panic: mpt_get_request: corrupted request free list (ccb) It was also reported that when trying to do a ps auxw it would sometimes (never happened to me) report that it was out of inodes. Which is insane. A screen capture of the frozen console can be seen at: http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL965/3391974/6964630/90153559.jpg This seems similiar to reports on both FreeBSD and NetBSD like: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2004/03/03/0004.html And http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2004/02/12/0003.html And: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2003-April/000058.html Any assistance would be appreciatted. Thanks! N. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:36:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2037F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9501F69.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.31.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B6143D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-questions@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 75085 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 19:36:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:36:48 +0100 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-URL-Me: http://weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Scripting oddness (sh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:36:52 -0000 I've been working on a script, and am having a bit of trouble producing reasonable output. First, the script removes all leaf packages that are not listed in a configuration file and are not required by any of those packages, or by any package that those packages require, etc. The problem is that when all currently installed packages are listed as 'do not remove', then the script does not produce the "No packages/ports to remove." output unless line 58 (the line that consists of the command 'true') is uncommented. If that line is commented out, or removed, then no output is produced. Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot? Regards, -- dave [ please don't CC me ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:37:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597A716A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:37:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9501F69.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.31.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2687643D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:37:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-questions@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 75136 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 19:37:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:37:38 +0100 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323193716.GI7474@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gatW/ieO32f1wygP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> X-URL-Me: http://weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Scripting oddness (sh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:37:40 -0000 --gatW/ieO32f1wygP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * David J. Weller-Fahy [2005-03-23 20:36 +0100]: > Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot? It helps if I include the script. Regards, -- dave [ please don't CC me ] --gatW/ieO32f1wygP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:45:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815316A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fusion.vilot.net (vilot.com [64.246.32.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE7043D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:45:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: from vilot.com (c-24-8-184-241.client.comcast.net [24.8.184.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by fusion.vilot.net (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NJjMUH010975; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:45:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@vilot.com) Received: by vilot.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:45:22 -0700 From: "Tom Vilot" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:45:22 -0700 To: Dejan Lesjak Message-ID: <20050323194518.GA6326@vilot.com> References: <200503232014.39437.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503232014.39437.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: 3Dimentia, Inc. Mailer: mutt for FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard Repeat Rate X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:45:24 -0000 > > Hmmm. I'll have to poke around some more ..... > Perhaps Option "AutoRepeat" can be of help. See kbd(4x) or > keyboard(4x) manual for description. Ah! That was it. Thank you so much .... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:49:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D0A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0778343D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709875D25; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96344-03; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF985CFA; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:49:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> References: <20050323095553.GJ10511@za.tiscali.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3f7689b753d2b4a425043eb026d80829@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:49:23 -0500 To: Riaan Annandale X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh sessions getting "paused" on idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:49:26 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 4:55 AM, Riaan Annandale wrote: > I ssh to anything over 10 machines at a time and leave the xterms idle. > When I come back to a session and press enter / start typing, it takes > a > few seconds to come alive. Almost as if the connection got canned. Well, it could be anything from a delay because the ssh processes are idle and have been swapped out to network delays. Does your disk become active when you resume an idle session, or are you simply seeing a 1-2 second delay as the network traffic gets exchanged and the session becomes active? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:50:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CF816A4CE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:50:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056FC43D1F; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2NJnPsQ069508; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:49:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4241C7F0.4030108@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:48:00 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NMH References: <20050323193439.84859.qmail@web41804.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323193439.84859.qmail@web41804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: questions cc: amd Subject: Re: Panic With MPT driver on Opteron System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:50:50 -0000 NMH wrote: > Hello > I am having a odd problem I hope someone can help > with. > > I have a TYAN 2882 board with 4 gigs of memory and a > single Opteron 248 Processor. I am using an Infortrend > RAID controller that won't play nice with Adaptec at > 320 speeds so I am using an LSI 1030 based PCI-X SCSI > card instead of the built in Adaptec. Hence the mpt > driver. The system is FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE from > March 2nd. > > The system runs very fast but when testing under > somewhat heavy load the system will panic and freeze > with: > Panic: mpt_get_request: corrupted request free list > (ccb) > It was also reported that when trying to do a ps auxw > it would sometimes (never happened to me) report that > it was out of inodes. Which is insane. > > A screen capture of the frozen console can be seen > at: > > http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL965/3391974/6964630/90153559.jpg > > This seems similiar to reports on both FreeBSD and > NetBSD like: > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2004/03/03/0004.html > And > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2004/02/12/0003.html > And: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2003-April/000058.html > > Any assistance would be appreciatted. > > Thanks! > > N. > I think that you're seeing the effects of the driver having extremely broken error recovery. This is a known problem, and a fix will likely be going into the tree soon. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 19:57:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61B16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:57:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-gw2.fusemail.net (smtp-gw2.fusemail.net [65.61.162.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E650643D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brianjohn@fusemail.com) Received: from fusemail.com by smtp-gw2.fusemail.net with esmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DEByL-0002u9-UU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:56:58 -0500 Received: from fusemail.com by fuse1.fusemail.net with asmtp (FuseMail extSMTP) id 1DEByu-0006ou-IZ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:32 -0600 Received: from 209.87.176.4 (FuseMail web AccountID 19592) by webmail.fusemail.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <2635.209.87.176.4.1111607862.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian John" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: FuseMail W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: Simple bash script to grep files for bad keywords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: brianjohn@fusemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:57:51 -0000 > On 2005-03-23 12:29, Brian John wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to write a simple bash script that will grep all files > > in a directory (except ones that start with "00") for certain bad > > keywords. Here is what I have so far: > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > # This is a simple script to check all sql scripts for bad keywords > > > > BAD_KEYWORDS='spool echo timing commit rollback' > > > > for i in $BAD_KEYWORDS; > > do > > echo "*********************************"; > > echo "GREPing for bad keyword '$i'" > > echo "*********************************"; > > grep $i ./*; > > done > > > > However, I'm not sure how to make it not grep the files that start > > with "00". Can anyone help me with this? > > Use xargs, since it will buy you the extra feature of being able to > search through arbitrarily large numbers of files: > > for _word in ${BAD_KEYWORDS} ;do > find . | grep -v '^/00' |\ > xargs grep "${_word}" /dev/null > done > > Tips: > > - The quotes in "${_word}" are probably optional, but it's better to > be safe than sorry :-) > > - The /dev/null is there so that grep will get at least 2 file > arguments, even if there is just one file in the current directory, > effectively forcing grep(1) to print the filename of this one file > if it happens to match the pattern. > Cool, I think I get it for the most part. However, what exactly am I doing when I am piping to xargs? I can see that the filenames not starting with '00' will be piped, but what does the '\' do? Sorry, I am really new to scripting and *nix in general. But I am a programmer so I learn fast. Thanks! /Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:02:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF37116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F37343D62 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:02:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from www.atopia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAA34129 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from 134.210.195.128 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matt) by www.atopia.net with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:02:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:02:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Matt Juszczak" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:02:17 -0000 Howdy, Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load m0n0wall, which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot errors you see in the paste link below. http://paste.atopia.net/107 We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( Any ideas are appreciated in advance. Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:06:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FB216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:06:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC68A43D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:06:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B175EC63B56 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:06:00 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 1wPWJkXBfjTt2V3zYLpF2g 1111608358 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-75-117.access.as9105.com [80.41.75.117]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2906E57030B for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:05:57 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:05:57 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <20050323192829.GB15303@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050323192829.GB15303@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:06:02 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:28, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > > ad0s2 / > > > ad0s3 SWAP > > > ad0s4 /usr > > > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... > > How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? > I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). > If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. > What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; > then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. > > Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK > ad0s2 any other way? It's part of the normal, menu-driven, installation process; first you create 1 slice (primary partition) then you go through to the next stage where you carve the slice into partition. The second stage is called labelling, and there is a option to lay out the slice automatically. Even if you don't plan to use it you should do that to see what the default looks like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:10:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE8716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:10:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC2643D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:10:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDT002A0MQ0DE@smtp16.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:48 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <2935.216.220.59.169.1111606070.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Ean Kingston Message-id: <20050323210351.W715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050323190313.D715@yokozuna.lan> <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> <2935.216.220.59.169.1111606070.squirrel@216.220.59.169> cc: Andreas Davour cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:10:50 -0000 On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Ean Kingston entered: >> Hmm I also did a cvsup, but it makes no difference, I still get the sam >> error. I guess I have an other problem on my system. > > You may need to do a make clean or a make distclean in the port directory > after doing a cvsup. I've found that some ports don't realize that things > have changed after a cvsup and so continue to try and build with half > built old code. I just tried but that doesn't help either. I guess it has something to do with my linux emulation. Thanks for the reply. Marco -- There's no room in the drug world for amateurs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:13:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6737516A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.liquidation.com (mail.liquidation.com [65.196.108.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B102743D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [10.0.0.206] (everything.liquidation.com [65.196.108.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.liquidation.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2NKGaZT012380 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4241CEB4.4040909@p6m7g8.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:16:52 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Liquitidy Services, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <2635.209.87.176.4.1111607862.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> In-Reply-To: <2635.209.87.176.4.1111607862.fusewebmail-19592@webmail.fusemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.748, required 5, AWL 0.15, BAYES_00 -4.90) cc: brianjohn@fusemail.com Subject: Re: Simple bash script to grep files for bad keywords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:13:24 -0000 Brian John wrote: >>On 2005-03-23 12:29, Brian John wrote: >> >> >>>Hello, >>>I am trying to write a simple bash script that will grep all files >>>in a directory (except ones that start with "00") for certain bad >>>keywords. Here is what I have so far: >>> >>> >>>#!/bin/bash >>> >>># This is a simple script to check all sql scripts for bad keywords >>> >>>BAD_KEYWORDS='spool echo timing commit rollback' >>> >>>for i in $BAD_KEYWORDS; >>>do >>> echo "*********************************"; >>> echo "GREPing for bad keyword '$i'" >>> echo "*********************************"; >>> grep $i ./*; >>>done >>> >>>However, I'm not sure how to make it not grep the files that start >>>with "00". Can anyone help me with this? >>> >>> >>Use xargs, since it will buy you the extra feature of being able to >>search through arbitrarily large numbers of files: >> >> for _word in ${BAD_KEYWORDS} ;do >> find . | grep -v '^/00' |\ >> xargs grep "${_word}" /dev/null >> done >> >>Tips: >> >>- The quotes in "${_word}" are probably optional, but it's better to >> be safe than sorry :-) >> >>- The /dev/null is there so that grep will get at least 2 file >> arguments, even if there is just one file in the current directory, >> effectively forcing grep(1) to print the filename of this one file >> if it happens to match the pattern. >> >> >> >Cool, I think I get it for the most part. However, what exactly am I >doing when I am piping to xargs? I can see that the filenames not >starting with '00' will be piped, but what does the '\' do? Sorry, I am >really new to scripting and *nix in general. But I am a programmer so I >learn fast. > >Thanks! > >/Brian >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >I can see that the filenames not >starting with '00' will be piped, but what does the '\' do? The '\' means pretend I typed the next line on this line he used it because most mailers wrap the e-mail lines at 80 characters, but it needs to be on one line to work. If you wrote it on one line in the script file, you can omit that '\' Luck -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philip M. Gollucci Senior Developer - Liquidity Services Inc. Phone: 202.568.6268 (Direct) E-Mail: pgollucci@liquidation.com Web: http://www.liquidation.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:15:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ED616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:15:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B8443D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:14:45 -0600 Message-ID: <4241CE51.8090809@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:15:13 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dixit, Viraj" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 20:14:46.0000 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5093F00:01C52FE4] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Interface Card Setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:15:17 -0000 Dixit, Viraj wrote: >Hi, >I have got a mismatch Duplex problem. Can someone confirm these >commands to use with sysinstall. I want to change various options >for the network card or where can I find these commands. > >* media 100baseTx mediaopt autoselect >* media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex >Thanks, >VJ > > I'm not sure what sysinstall can do there. Trying ifconfig(8) on the command line is probably the better way to go, but I'm not interested in starting a holy war on the subject. Take a look at the ifconfig(8) man page, as well as the manpage for your NIC driver, which should tell what options to use. For example, the rl(4) manpage tells me that to set the first RealTek 8139 on my system to 100 Mbps, I'd use: ifconfig rl0 media 100baseTX Note that you must have root privileges to reconfigure an interface. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:16:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A37616A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FAB43D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:16:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1BBC63BDF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:16:46 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: XS897a3CUjKULSxMjH/89g 1111609004 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-75-117.access.as9105.com [80.41.75.117]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB0E570159 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:16:44 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <20050323192829.GB15303@thought.org> <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503232016.44325.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:16:50 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 20:05, RW wrote: > Even > if you don't plan to use it you should do that to see what the default > looks like. Don't forget to delete the three partitions and create a single large slice, if you try to create a default set of partitions on a slice dimensioned to take / it will probably fail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:28:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEA016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:28:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.UU.SE [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E993B43D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id AB50F4955; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:28:23 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s32783; Wed, 23 Mar 05 21:28:20 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C148484F; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:28:20 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 61AC538012; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:28:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604105C002; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:28:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:28:20 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Marco Beishuizen In-Reply-To: <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> Message-ID: References: <20050323202358.C715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Acroread7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:28:26 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On stardate Wed, 23 Mar 2005, the wise Andreas Davour entered: > >> Exactly the same. >> >> As Erik (et al) wrote, it will all be pulled in and resolved as >> dependencies if you have a sufficienyly up-to-date ports tree. >> >> Kind of annyoing that it wasn't caught before it was comitted at all, but >> considering the total confusion that reigns right now with two different >> acroread ports it's just what can be expected. >> >> I did a cvsup 30 minutes ago, and then it worked. >> >> /Andreas > > Hmm I also did a cvsup, but it makes no difference, I still get the sam > error. I guess I have an other problem on my system. You'll have to pkg_delete the old acroread port, and I did a "make clean" as well. Try that, and it might work. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:37:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:37:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw.aecom.yu.edu (mailgw.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B07543D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:37:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from synrat@wirewalk.org) Received: from mailvx.aecom.yu.edu (mailvx.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.17]) by mailgw.aecom.yu.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j2NKbRVk029107 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:37:29 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu ([129.98.1.100]) by mailvx.aecom.yu.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.1.32) with SMTP id M2005032315372707550 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500 Received: from [129.98.4.95] (kgb.rit.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.4.95]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577002CE9 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4241D387.9060606@wirewalk.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:37:27 -0500 From: synrat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041020 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: squirrelmail serverside filter plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:37:30 -0000 was anyone able to get squrrelmail serverside filter to work on FreeBSD? please share your experience. thanx in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:41:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265D716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:41:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B0043D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:41:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from cc-mail.cityofpaloalto.org ([172.17.1.1]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:41:11 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:41:05 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problem Help! thread-index: AcUv6KK14cwFiTezReG0MAm3dLkuxg== From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 20:41:12.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[A667B620:01C52FE8] Subject: Problem Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:41:13 -0000 Hi, In my haste I edited my rc.conf file and knowing well that if I make a = mistake I will get hung the system at that point. I need an expert help = to get me out of this situation. I spent days building the system, I = don't want to do the whole thing again. I must have forgot a quote in my = rc.conf file and now when the system got rebooted it's asking for = pathaname for the shell. I am not sure of the next step. Help!! Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:42:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473D316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A1943D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lute@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 47909 invoked by uid 85); 23 Mar 2005 20:42:42 -0000 Received: from lute@vfemail.net by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 1.418194 secs); 23 Mar 2005 20:42:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agnes.myhome.net) (lute@vfemail.net@63.229.187.130) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2005 20:42:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:40 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323144240.6f8ab398@agnes.myhome.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: libgtk problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:42:44 -0000 I recently did an upgrade after not having done one in a couple months, and now a bunch of stuff is broken and it all seems to stem from here: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.400" not found, required by "program" I have done some searching but as of yet have not found any info on this. I am currently doing a portupgrade -arRf hoping that this will fix the problem but so far has not. Can someone tell me where I can find the info I need to get this corrected? Thanks, -- Lute It's OK to be different FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:47:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7F216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E8D743D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shawnblan@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56666 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 20:47:10 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=eHriK0rmreeEjCmUHOBxoRfyPj/FZpOPCmwJrJ9n6Mzf3i4h9mMVq6WB8YKK5pHFGaLXdGhTOBvaUob3CQPGZIwlXKeqanYzWtXkVzlysMHdHGeryyIbExrrxznW6WKSNtbWwt2im4P5pHGSwpl1VCGhfSaLY8Pr3KFH09tS71I= ; Message-ID: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.70.197.19] by web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:47:10 EST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:47:10 -0500 (EST) From: Shawn B To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:11 -0000 I have been looking for a great firewall, something not too technical, since I have only been using FreeBSD for two months now. I have FreeBSD-4.8 installed, Apache-1.3, and Netqmail-1.05. I am also planning on running an NTP time server and possibly a forum in the future. The web site is expected to become a well-recognized site, so that complicates matters. More attention to the site means more attacks. Also, I am looking for antiviral protection for both the FreeBSD server, and any Windows or Macintosh systems that may be using the POP mail. I know qmail has one solution, which was contributed by a qmail user, but what are the alternatives? Any suggestions as to what firewall would provide me with the best protection, while not being overly too complicated? All help is greatly appreciated. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:47:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A378F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D3843D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2NKlX4e002801; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:34 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "Dixit, Viraj" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:33 +0000 Message-Id: <1111610853.756.48.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Problem Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:41 -0000 On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 12:41 -0800, Dixit, Viraj wrote: > Hi, > > In my haste I edited my rc.conf file and knowing well that if I make a mistake I will get hung the system at that point. I need an expert help to get me out of this situation. I spent days building the system, I don't want to do the whole thing again. I must have forgot a quote in my rc.conf file and now when the system got rebooted it's asking for pathaname for the shell. I am not sure of the next step. Help!! > Thanks Well, while we're waiting for an expert to reply, try hitting enter when it prompts for the pathname for a shell. You'll get the sh shell. Next type: mount -a Then vi /etc/rc.conf and fix the typo. Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:47:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8CC16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D2943D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DECeG-0005yw-AC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:40:17 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:40:16 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:40:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> <200503230936.54842.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4241ACE3.5080304@dial.pipex.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:47:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-23, Alex Zbyslaw scribbled these curious markings: > % find /usr/ports -type f -name pkg-plist -exec egrep -H epstopdf {} \; Just a bit of nitpickery: I've found that piping the output to xargs rather than using find's exec produces faster results. Plus, you (most of the time) don't need to use constructs like {} \;. :) Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQbSzk/lo7zvzJioRAirsAJ9oq+xJr6AHgscuUXBIzWvvsa33mgCeOnz5 8JesEMbAHU9K0SAgpb8B7eo= =nKZB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:48:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1F716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E8A43D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2NKlvkc001967; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:47:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4241D837.8010603@ec.rr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:57:27 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: em1897@aol.com References: <20050323165203.38506.qmail@web90201.mail.scd.yahoo.com> <8C6FDE958CAFD0B-90C-29197@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C6FDE958CAFD0B-90C-29197@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:01 -0000 em1897@aol.com wrote: > The answer, Boris, is that the "team" has no idea what > they're doing. Check out some of the threads on > performance testing. They tune little pieces here > and there, and break 10 other things in the process. > Matt Dillon "determined" that 10,000 ints/second > was "optimal". Of course if you're passing 10Kpps > that means you get an interrupt for every > packet. > > They're playing pin the tail on the donkey. > You could understand what he was saying? I wanted to help but was unsure of what he was asking. I also seem to remember that discussion you are referring too. IIRC, 10,000hz for pooling was the setting they ere talking about. But on it would very a little, and with the fxp based card polling hurt a little because the card was already ding its own thing in hardware. So that setting was redundant, it was best to leave it alone. He also seemed to say the network bandwidth was constant, and system load rose with an 64bit system. This right? If he was using GENERIC on a smp system he was only using 1 cpu with out a recompile. There is just so much that could be wrong and he gives no information on his system or settings. Doess he have 2 amd64 pcs with 2 different installs of 5.3, or a single machine that he ran both versions on? The router, is that a third machine that was an amd64 system, or something else? He says i386, but an up to date 5.3 world doesn't support 386 with out a work around. The least commom setting is now 486, but a build for 686 would be better. Did he tell you if he had polling on? So I guess it is a good thing you were able to help him, because I couldn't. Not to mention the flame bait you through out, well, that would be wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:48:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E060A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DFC43D5D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so284270rng for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=s1wv/bMGOPZVotj2a71z+WN6Q7JWk12qSthq8PJq2U0eNwXWs09tjLRvLS28HWOTaUlXNiSmH3fB9ytgMHiAXXGKI5LavYEXemnXcBT5dgDcg0c0gHyfbYLNG+2hn2GyO1d+PqOnqV3w6Ub4mZvCLpAQKSBzmT0SNOaYSNbM/aI= Received: by 10.38.102.47 with SMTP id z47mr910864rnb; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:48:11 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <16961.34174.867985.876389@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:48:13 -0000 So conclusion if you want to release and renew your ip you do this right ? dhclient nv0 dhclient -r nv0 dhclient nv0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:54:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9387316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rulez.sk (DaEmoN.RuLeZ.sK [84.16.32.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8554C43D66 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:54:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FAD45065; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA004505F; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:52:56 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <706031186.20050323215256@rulez.sk> To: "Dixit, Viraj" , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="----------11615C1F11FD85885" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.rulez.sk X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, BAYES_00, PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Spam-Level: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Problem Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:54:11 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. ------------11615C1F11FD85885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Viraj, Wednesday, March 23, 2005, 9:41:05 PM, you made these points: > Hi, > In my haste I edited my rc.conf file and knowing well that if I > make a mistake I will get hung the system at that point. I need an > expert help to get me out of this situation. I spent days building > the system, I don't want to do the whole thing again. I must have > forgot a quote in my rc.conf file and now when the system got > rebooted it's asking for pathaname for the shell. I am not sure of > the next step. Help!! > Thanks well, if you are prompted to the path name of the shell, you have to type there full path-name e.g. /bin/sh. this is necessary to get to the single user mode in next step. then, you will have to edit /etc/rc.conf again and fix your typo. save & exit && reboot. --=20 Best Regards, +----------=3D=3D/\/\=3D=3D----------+ (__) FreeBSD | DanGer | \\\'',) The | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | \/ \ ^ Power | http://danger.rulez.sk | .\._/_) To +----------=3D=3D\/\/=3D=3D----------+ Serve [ Is baldness the sign of a man who came out on top? ] ------------11615C1F11FD85885-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 20:56:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A0316A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:56:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071A643D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:56:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2NKuIkc010109; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:56:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4241DA2C.4010709@ec.rr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:05:48 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lute Mullenix References: <20050323144240.6f8ab398@agnes.myhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20050323144240.6f8ab398@agnes.myhome.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libgtk problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:56:21 -0000 Lute Mullenix wrote: >I recently did an upgrade after not having done one in a couple months, >and now a bunch of stuff is broken and it all seems to stem from here: > > >/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.400" not found, >required by "program" > >I have done some searching but as of yet have not found any info on this. >I am currently doing a portupgrade -arRf hoping that this will fix the >problem but so far has not. > >Can someone tell me where I can find the info I need to get this >corrected? > >Thanks, > > > -- > Lute > >It's OK to be different >FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE > >_______________________________________________ > > There was a major gnome upgrade. Have you looked at freebsd.org/gnome to get the upgrade script? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:01:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD77A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:01:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDBB43D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:01:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so287028rng for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bk+YD774oRwsvTLhELmPydMixywBzXV8Pav/AwBlzqFXUhK22LgNwFd3ZNh07sPxYwK989BC7lXOpRZpncS3Mh8BuI52oDBYgLDd/EqSMaiqZgs5Aqz+LU+iv/p+P/Dp1g+ctc1bWIBChBFzfa6FSBfTiqMnGiCk6NP3oPKQuso= Received: by 10.38.165.79 with SMTP id n79mr908119rne; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:01:23 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <16961.34174.867985.876389@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:01:24 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:48:11 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > So conclusion if you want to release and renew your ip you do this right ? > > dhclient nv0 > dhclient -r nv0 > dhclient nv0 > never mind it works yahoo :) my nvidia nforce3 NIC AMD64 works :) The thing i dont understand is why i can not load the if_nv.ko at boot time in the load.conf file ? My pc keeps on rebooting if i do that. I have to do everything manualy ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:03:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00E816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A6E43D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:03:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3754C11D; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:03:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3831.216.220.59.169.1111611800.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:03:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "Shawn B" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:03:07 -0000 > I have been looking for a great firewall, something > not too technical, since I have only been using > FreeBSD for two months now. > > I have FreeBSD-4.8 installed, Apache-1.3, and > Netqmail-1.05. I am also planning on running an NTP > time server and possibly a forum in the future. The > web site is expected to become a well-recognized site, > so that complicates matters. More attention to the > site means more attacks. If it's a firewall you might want to upgrade to the latest in the series you are using (4.11). There may be security holes in 4.8 by now. > Also, I am looking for antiviral protection for both > the FreeBSD server, and any Windows or Macintosh > systems that may be using the POP mail. I know qmail > has one solution, which was contributed by a qmail > user, but what are the alternatives? There are very few anti-virus packages for FreeBSD. AFAIK there are no viruses that target FreeBSD. There are a few that target x86 hardware but these don't propagate over the 'net. Have a look at amavis (it's in the ports collection). I've never used it but it's been mentioned a number of times on various lists. Also, F-Prot (www.f-prot.com) provides an AV product for FreeBSD (NetBSD, and OpenBSD too). They even have a mail scanner product. I used the file scanner for a while but stopped the last time I upgraded the OS. > > Any suggestions as to what firewall would provide me > with the best protection, while not being overly too > complicated? For simplicity, get one of the Firewall Router devices and stick your FreeBSD system behind it. Most have a web interface to manage them. Just make sure you get the Firewall model and not the Router with NAT model. Unless you get lucky, the guy a Best Buy (or whereever) won't have a clue about the differences and will not be able to help even if he thinks he is helping. You need to do your research on this. On FreeBSD you have a choice of IPFW, IPF, and PF. IPFW is FreeBSD only, IPF runs on many OSes (but not Linux), and PF is a port of the OpenBSD firewall. All are included with the FreeBSD distribution but require a kernel recomple (it's explained in the handbook and isn't nearly as scary as it sounds). All are about a complicated to configure/manage. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:04:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F0916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:04:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr (postfix3-1.free.fr [213.228.0.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C494843D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr) Received: from vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (ferreol-1-82-66-171-150.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.171.150]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB017352A; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:04:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D67AC99AB; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:04:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:04:21 +0100 From: Bachelier Vincent To: Shawn B Message-ID: <20050323210421.GA70562@localhost> References: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD localhost 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:04:26 -0000 Well, I suggest PF from openbsd ok, it's really simple, and it exist a good page on freebsd to learn how it works ok see ya Le Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 03:47:10PM -0500, Shawn B a écrit: > From: Shawn B > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:47:10 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Firewall questions > > I have been looking for a great firewall, something > not too technical, since I have only been using > FreeBSD for two months now. > > I have FreeBSD-4.8 installed, Apache-1.3, and > Netqmail-1.05. I am also planning on running an NTP > time server and possibly a forum in the future. The > web site is expected to become a well-recognized site, > so that complicates matters. More attention to the > site means more attacks. > > Also, I am looking for antiviral protection for both > the FreeBSD server, and any Windows or Macintosh > systems that may be using the POP mail. I know qmail > has one solution, which was contributed by a qmail > user, but what are the alternatives? > > Any suggestions as to what firewall would provide me > with the best protection, while not being overly too > complicated? > > All help is greatly appreciated. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- Vincent Bachelier Language : Francais / English Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr - Serveurs linux Citation (fortune): How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:05:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E586416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB5743D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2NL5Cgi016277; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2NL5CoI016276; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:05:12 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20050323210512.GA16169@thought.org> References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <20050323192829.GB15303@thought.org> <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:08 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 08:05:57PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 19:28, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:08:19PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > > > On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > If memory servers, the slices I created were > > > > ad0s2 / > > > > ad0s3 SWAP > > > > ad0s4 /usr > > > > > > People normally create a BSD partition table within an FDISK partition, > > > so / would be on ad0s2a, rather than using all of ad0s2 for a single > > > filesystem. Then you can put swap on ad0s2b, and so forth and just use > > > on FDISK partition, rather than using three... > > > > How do I use/reach FDISK via the CD installation script? > > I've looked at the kwik way and the Custom (for experts). > > If I use the "Allocate" menu I see the FDISK editor. > > What then? So far I've simply used "C = Create Slice"; > > then in the following menu I've labeled the slices. > > > > Which option in the screen/editor? Or how-to FDISK > > ad0s2 any other way? > > It's part of the normal, menu-driven, installation process; first you create 1 > slice (primary partition) then you go through to the next stage where you > carve the slice into partition. The second stage is called labelling, and > there is a option to lay out the slice automatically. Even if you don't plan > to use it you should do that to see what the default looks like. Yeah, I wound up trying the defaults because my custom creates failed. With thr "auto defaults" newfs works, but I error out on /usr. /usr is large. So the mount will fail, etc. (??) Maybe a smaller /usr is the trick. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:09:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1081F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:09:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr (smtp1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C44643D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:09:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimitri.galaitsis@libertysurf.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 531591C0061F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:09:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.121.33.65] (APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-3-65.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.33.65]) by mwinf0112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B62531C00605 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:09:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050323210956746.B62531C00605@mwinf0112.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4241DB26.9020002@libertysurf.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:09:58 +0100 From: Dimitri GALAITSIS User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: impossible de configurer un mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dimitri.galaitsis@libertysurf.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:09:59 -0000 Lorsque qu j'installe Free BSD 5.3 toout se passe bien par contre c a la fin de l'intallation que ca ce gate. lorsque qui'i me demande de configurer le mot de passe root impossible de le rentrer . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:10:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676FF16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41826.mail.yahoo.com (web41826.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.94.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3274043D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 39308 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 21:10:38 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=NoetapmWpyYJB+rkeCdB4XKPf/4IhQuRQYXtSKIMbT7hVPJHAOpG8P2EGK8FMCBRMNq1AY1jIcSQBCNp+T5w/khLKF9m5tgfjieqGlYaUOGouIZryZ1Dd03NeZeAUKNY6L0qTaCQvGJh37y7zdTVeo/KpRDwrCzbwrWgj/rD92s= ; Message-ID: <20050323211038.39306.qmail@web41826.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web41826.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:10:37 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:10:37 -0800 (PST) From: NMH To: Matthew Seaman , Boris Spirialitious In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.x Opteron Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:38 -0000 --- Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:22AM -0800, Boris > Spirialitious wrote: > > When opteron support start for Freebsd? I have > 4.9. > > is supported? Or 4.11 better? I can't use 5.x. > > Well, AMD64 support as a tier-1 platform only came > in with 5.x, so > you're S.O.L. if you have to use a 4.x release > version. > > > Will a i386 disk boot on opteron system? Can I > > use same disk image for intel and amd MBs? Any > > big problems? > > You can generally run AMD64 machines in IA32 mode -- > but what would be > the point? All you get then is a machine that costs > more than an > equivalent IA32 box and that probably performs > worse. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Actually, I use a ton of Opterons in IA32 mode that blow past the fastest pent 4's we tried. I have found them very stable, reliable and faster than the Pentium. (have not tried the Xeons) Of course they are even faster in 64 bit mode. But sadly most programs that I need don't work well or at all in 64 bit mode yet. 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Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:10:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759DF16A4CF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E943D53 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF2D5CF4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96555-09; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62B5C84; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:10:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <16961.34174.867985.876389@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:10:22 -0500 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:10:26 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > The thing i dont understand is why i can not load the if_nv.ko at boot > time in the load.conf file ? My pc keeps on rebooting if i do that. I > have to do everything manualy ? Yes, that is odd. If you can get a crashdump from the system to see why it is rebooting, that would certainly help, but without additional information, it's not going to be easy to debug the problem... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:12:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981D216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:12:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AFF43D55 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF57C5CF4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96605-07; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA5B5C82; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:12:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> <200503230936.54842.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4241ACE3.5080304@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:12:45 -0500 To: Christopher Nehren X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:12:47 -0000 On Mar 23, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Christopher Nehren wrote: > On 2005-03-23, Alex Zbyslaw scribbled these > curious markings: >> % find /usr/ports -type f -name pkg-plist -exec egrep -H epstopdf {} >> \; > > Just a bit of nitpickery: I've found that piping the output to xargs > rather than using find's exec produces faster results. Plus, you (most > of the time) don't need to use constructs like {} \;. :) pkg_which epstopdf ...is probably even faster and easier. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:13:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2016A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.fr (smtp5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DA843D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimitri.galaitsis@libertysurf.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 36B8F1C00224 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:13:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.121.33.65] (APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-3-65.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.121.33.65]) by mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5E01B1C0021F; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:13:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050323211316385.5E01B1C0021F@mwinf0512.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:13:17 +0100 From: Dimitri GALAITSIS User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dimitri.galaitsis@libertysurf.fr, questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:13:18 -0000 A la fin de l'intallation de BSB 5.3 lors que le systéme me demande de définir un mot de passe root le systeme refuse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:22:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5853A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:22:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF13743D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050323212226.NVEK2192.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:22:26 -0500 From: To: "Shawn B" , Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:22:27 -0000 http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php This install guide covers both of the 2 firewalls that come built in to FreeBSD for all 4.x release. Software firewalls are heads and shoulders above hardware firewalls which can not do stateful type of protection. I recommend ipfilter over ipfw as it so much easier to use and is supported be its own open source development team. Its been stable for a long time while ipfw is FreeBSD developed and has been rewritten between 4.8 and 5.3 Firewalls only protect your private network and not email content for various. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Shawn B Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Firewall questions I have been looking for a great firewall, something not too technical, since I have only been using FreeBSD for two months now. I have FreeBSD-4.8 installed, Apache-1.3, and Netqmail-1.05. I am also planning on running an NTP time server and possibly a forum in the future. The web site is expected to become a well-recognized site, so that complicates matters. More attention to the site means more attacks. Also, I am looking for antiviral protection for both the FreeBSD server, and any Windows or Macintosh systems that may be using the POP mail. I know qmail has one solution, which was contributed by a qmail user, but what are the alternatives? Any suggestions as to what firewall would provide me with the best protection, while not being overly too complicated? All help is greatly appreciated. ____________________________________________________________________ __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:24:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE0016A4D0 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D5943D5E for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3F3C63B5F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:24:09 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: R9UUVe5Az4e/91uq+7Cmkg 1111613046 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-75-117.access.as9105.com [80.41.75.117]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FD957034F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050323003314.GA9348@thought.org> <200503232005.58368.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20050323210512.GA16169@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20050323210512.GA16169@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503232124.07059.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: dual-boot troubles; /usr won't mount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:11 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 21:05, Gary Kline wrote: ks like. > > Yeah, I wound up trying the defaults because my custom creates > failed. With thr "auto defaults" newfs works, but I error out > on /usr. /usr is large. So the mount will fail, etc. (??) > Maybe a smaller /usr is the trick. That's highly unlikely, FreeBSD 5.3 supports multi-terabyte filesystems. I suspect that you still have 3 primary partitions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:24:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE22E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AEB43D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so292067rng for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:24:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oig1c/l44dnjOQG8JRmpgbkfqC7YyjflWIRW7FkBj9LrHXHGjrZRwzkrYCmfs5E7gUEgGP5Yxy0Y7CT6qTsvVxfFHDRQVRN8hPAp06wMBOEDN5lFdce6u30VR5RYoN/8V77dBmIYCN5ZCY9popA8qPKbDxbzTmi2acDWHChaPp4= Received: by 10.38.9.80 with SMTP id 80mr959224rni; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:24:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:40 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <16960.48579.623987.286503@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <16961.34174.867985.876389@jerusalem.litteratus.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:24:45 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:10:22 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 23, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > The thing i dont understand is why i can not load the if_nv.ko at boot > > time in the load.conf file ? My pc keeps on rebooting if i do that. I > > have to do everything manualy ? > > Yes, that is odd. If you can get a crashdump from the system to see > why it is rebooting, that would certainly help, but without additional > information, it's not going to be easy to debug the problem... where do i need to look for a crashdump ? It reboots just before displaying the bsd boot menu what is even stranger because the kernel and modules only gets loaded after the boot menu right ? I had to fix it with bsd cd2 and edit the /boot/load.conf ? Can somebody explain to me what happens after bootmanager and before boot menu ? That has to do with load.conf ? Cant be much right :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:35:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE5316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:35:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1E043D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:35:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9A6C11D; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:36:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4515.216.220.59.169.1111613762.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: References: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: bob@a1poweruser.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: Shawn B cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:35:48 -0000 > http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php > > This install guide covers both of the 2 firewalls that come built in > to FreeBSD for all 4.x release. Software firewalls are heads and > shoulders above hardware firewalls which can not do stateful type of > protection. You might want to check your sources again. My Linksys hardware firewalls do a good job of providing statefull packet inspection. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:41:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F279416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EFB43D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so295776rng for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:41:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RypM7e8DrWk10EmeCas1hIrsy7wwvlU+O8PUwEpIzfm5DKDC1lIGwPNHcgETWKsDOCKwRmFzUa2jvAVfAf7XiKOm8yowGE7u9HmBNoQDBscTiV69Am0NpWn5GflysshJwws72GiTzYmKOlB/LdbLR07sF2fTcb8AWyPSlj83yUs= Received: by 10.38.59.6 with SMTP id h6mr738763rna; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:41:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:16 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:17 -0000 What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? PS enlightenment realy is the best and coolest window manager :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:41:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2900016A4D4 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC3843D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j2NLfHOG086349 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:17 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from galois2.math.jussieu.fr (galois2.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.117])j2NLfD2s015084 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from galois2.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j2NLfDiY032536 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:13 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois2.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j2NLfD97032535; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:13 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Dimitri GALAITSIS Message-ID: <20050323214113.GC31296@math.jussieu.fr> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:17 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 4241E27D.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:41:20 -0000 Le 23/03/2005 à 22:13:17+0100, Dimitri GALAITSIS a écrit > A la fin de l'intallation de BSB 5.3 lors que le systéme me demande de > définir un mot de passe root le systeme refuse I think this is a english mailing list. Please use freebsd-questions@freebsd-fr.org for french mailing list. ************************* C'est à dire ? Vous dites qu'il ne veut pas de votre mot de passe. Mais vous étès bien dans le menu d'install ? De toute façon par défaut l'installateur ne met pas de mot de passe donc suffit de rebooter et on se retrouve avce un compte root sans mot de passe. On se logge et ensuite on fait un passwd. Cordialement -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Wed Mar 23 22:38:25 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:44:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1288416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578D543D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j2NLiNJD037524 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:23 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 164 Received: from galois2.math.jussieu.fr (galois2.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.117])j2NLiJ2s015534 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from galois2.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j2NLiJiY000356 ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:19 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois2.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j2NLiJiX000355; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:19 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050323214419.GD31296@math.jussieu.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:44:23 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 4241E337.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:44:25 -0000 Le 23/03/2005 à 22:41:16+0100, Gert Cuykens a écrit > What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? What the relation with FreeBSD ? I use bash with ls, cd, rm, mv ? Very good and very fast ;-)) Some friend use mc in text mode cd /usr/ports/misc/mc make install Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Tel : 01 44 27 86 88 FAX : 01 44 27 69 35 GSM(UFR) : 06 85 05 58 43 Heure local/Local time: Wed Mar 23 22:42:08 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:45:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C4316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:45:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from splinter.bowdoin.edu (splinter.bowdoin.edu [139.140.181.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C4D43D5A for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:45:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alec@thened.net) Received: by splinter.bowdoin.edu (Postfix, from userid 12008) id 453B2C118; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:45:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:45:47 -0500 From: Alec Berryman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323214547.GA34523@thened.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Ned-Wuz-Here: Yes X-GPG-Fingerprint: 3DB5 8785 53D9 8BF4 5049 B6B9 02E7 7FD9 881C 85C4 X-GPG-Key: http://www.thened.net/~alec/static/alec.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:45:52 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gert Cuykens on 2005-03-23 22:41:16 +0100: > What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? =46rom the command line, Midnight Commander (mc) is handy. It's a two-pane Norton-Commander-like file manager. --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQeOLAud/2YgchcQRAtsRAJ99O9npzSeVw7JRl59XcYSZUnK7IwCguKBF ATL0pT3+vLe0LTm4vP6DRbY= =z/1R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:47:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EDC16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:47:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638F843D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:47:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so297187rng for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:47:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=liVOqOwAsl+4BixSEZlwJeXC7sx8WnMktqG/F2QpQBWa9bax60Ghv2gYBIZWUgRP9sfbGM+A/LzXxO6VkT1wrCcMUnRGYud60SMalEhdxAPU9nWauM0aN01mtpljNZadKlMYjNmoQonGpaz6tlFsBaiexsE+/t1Zf6un237pUXk= Received: by 10.38.81.48 with SMTP id e48mr947278rnb; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:47:13 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd and a serial fax modem ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:47:13 -0000 So any sugestions how to tell my serial fax modem to put every thing in a file directory or mailbox ? I had a dream it was just mount /dev/serialfax /mnt :) But i am guessing its going to be more like a kernel nightmare :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:46:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07416A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:46:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EAE43D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:45:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A20C63B96 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:45:58 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: JmdwzAdSqySRrZyU8xeY9A 1111614355 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-75-117.access.as9105.com [80.41.75.117]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C8C570393 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:45:56 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3831.216.220.59.169.1111611800.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <3831.216.220.59.169.1111611800.squirrel@216.220.59.169> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503232145.57304.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:46:00 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 21:03, Ean Kingston wrote: > > Also, I am looking for antiviral protection for both > > the FreeBSD server, and any Windows or Macintosh > > systems that may be using the POP mail. I know qmail > > has one solution, which was contributed by a qmail > > user, but what are the alternatives? > > There are very few anti-virus packages for FreeBSD. AFAIK there are no > viruses that target FreeBSD. There are a few that target x86 hardware but > these don't propagate over the 'net. Clamav is supposed to be good for filtering windows viruses out of email. I know Fastmail.fm dropped Kaspersky in favour of Clamav, they claimed the updates to be at least as good. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:54:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E05D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB8643D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10052 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEDoA-0005on-Sp; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:34 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28912841A7; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:56:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9801258D6D8; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:54:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:54:31 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Gert Cuykens Message-Id: <20050323225431.7d2e866e.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:54:36 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:16 +0100 Gert Cuykens wrote: > What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? > i like mc and xfe and konqueror (good support for ftp,sftp,webdav), but normally i only use mc and command-line for filemanagement ;) > PS enlightenment realy is the best and coolest window manager :) i'm sure that E. would have been much more popular in the seventies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:58:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A63E16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C86C43D2D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10239 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2005 21:58:00 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=I01waSYbJHteazEtrMrwwx2fknvfUEdO8BBeZ4ygkA8n5fUSE0ali9Gq/0wyzFz8geLfi4H8tgaS0OQOjlPinpGFGZD6tQsNOX+Rjag6kpC3TzEEfUL1Dfgmec0izwhXOyldXMUJozL+Fr71hW+66k6EkLn1fTISuY7MHAR2F8w= ; Message-ID: <20050323215800.10237.qmail@web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.89.83] by web90203.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:59 PST Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:57:59 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Doug Paquette , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Teaming / Load Sharing of NIC Cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:00 -0000 So is card heating up too much from all this work? Adding device to bus and adding more software layers will just make cpu work harder. Boris --- Doug Paquette wrote: > I never said it was neccessary. I've just heard > about > it and have been told its "suppose" to even out the > work load on each card so one card isnt doing all > the > work, and with me having two cards i thought i would > see about trying it out. > > Doug > ---------------------------------------------------- > --- Boris Spirialitious > wrote: > > > > --- Doug Paquette wrote: > > > Group, > > > > > > I have an HP Proliant DL380 G3 and I am > interested > > > in > > > teaming or load sharing (what ever its called) > my > > > two > > > NIC cards that are in my server. > > > > > > I have been reading about this that I am suppose > > to > > > find free bsd drivers to make this work??? > > > > > > I am interested in doing this, but dont know > what > > to > > > do or where to start, is there anyone who has > done > > > this before with my kind of setup (dl380 server > > and > > > free bsd O/S) that can either point me in the > > right > > > direction, explain to me how to do this, or walk > > me > > > through it? > > > > I am curious about why people want this. Are you > > having problems with your ethernet lines going > > down? Is GigE not fast enough for you? It is > > very strange why this is necessary? > > > > Boris > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 21:58:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D100216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044D343D5E for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2NLwGBB052434; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:58:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66B3465A5; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:58:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:58:16 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Rajarajan Rajamani Message-ID: <20050323215816.GB78405@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Rajarajan Rajamani , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323173313.GA94954@rajarajan.homeunix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to find which port has a given executable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:58:20 -0000 --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:33:13PM -0500, Rajarajan Rajamani wrote: > Is it possible to find out which port has a particular > executable/script file ? It took me some time to find > out if the script epstopdf was in latex or tex or tetex! pkg_which, from the portupgrade port works very nicely for this. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQeZ4EnfvsMMhpyURAvGKAKCI1yTBCNSwc63rkgKRhf3tHwDzJACgi+jL kGPAojALyqF0f6hFrY20H2g= =BGG4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eJnRUKwClWJh1Khz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:02:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBAC16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:02:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765543D2F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:02:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1DEDvq-0006zk-Se; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:02:31 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:41 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050323225431.7d2e866e.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050323225431.7d2e866e.albi@scii.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503231602.41884.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc986c519622f338047f98397275d570f5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: "albi@scii.nl" cc: Gert Cuykens Subject: Re: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:02:38 -0000 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 03:54 pm, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:16 +0100 > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? > > i like mc and xfe and konqueror (good support for ftp,sftp,webdav), > but normally i only use mc and command-line for filemanagement ;) If I didn't use anything else in KDE, I would still install it for konqueror's webdav support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:03:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABFD16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:03:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D52E43D54 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:03:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) j2NM3aaV080170; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:03:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B5246651E; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:03:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:03:36 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050323220336.GC78405@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! Organization: Me, organized? X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd and a serial fax modem ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:03:39 -0000 --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 10:47:13PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > So any sugestions how to tell my serial fax modem to put every thing > in a file directory or mailbox ? >=20 > I had a dream it was just mount /dev/serialfax /mnt :) But i am > guessing its going to be more like a kernel nightmare :) Try efax, from /usr/ports/comms/efax. It can save incoming faxes to files, or mail them to you. Roland --=20 R.F. Smith /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign r s m i t h @ x s 4 a l l . n l \ / No HTML/RTF in e-mail http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ X No Word docs in e-mail public key: http://www.keyserver.net / \ Respect for open standards --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQee4EnfvsMMhpyURAjKTAJ9Zlk2JzZYD9iMqnN3+a5sLi8TLzwCgkHJ/ sSfRGyz4hZuJn7foPjlIZoY= =sKFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:05:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6B916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:05:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C551E43D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:05:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jon.drews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so317187wri for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:05:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Bbl5TWIO1EW51Nhkn/2M4vhEzUHWADMQZ9FphusYOjLY52hW8tR9XWtOnJz0KI8Gz+8z08up2FubIIIVhJbRIw5Ey3aqLmGaea6ajnyJPk6ETL8IWu1PjT/TQnHFi/yUSD1ky59mH/UvrKO03UBWlKl5IIBh01igOnNkwSnlKqQ= Received: by 10.54.105.17 with SMTP id d17mr685282wrc; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.54.8 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:05:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb27cbf050323140548cdacf7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:05:19 -0700 From: Jon Drews To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i need a file manager! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jon Drews List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:05:20 -0000 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:16 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What shell file manager do you like or x file manager ? > Xfm (ports/x11-fm/xfm) is good and easy to use http://www.musikwissenschaft.uni-mainz.de/~ag/xfm/ ROX (ports/x11-fm/rox) is quite fast http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:29:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C3D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A46243D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7BE3C282A; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:29:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4241EDB9.5000107@toldme.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:29:13 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050323) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David J. Weller-Fahy" References: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> <20050323193716.GI7474@weller-fahy.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323193716.GI7474@weller-fahy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scripting oddness (sh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:29:22 -0000 David J. Weller-Fahy wrote: >* David J. Weller-Fahy [2005-03-23 20:36 +0100]: > > >>Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot? >> >> > >It helps if I include the script. > Bonus points if you inline the relevant portion, or at least name your attachment something like foo.sh. -d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:37:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F3C16A4DF for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:37:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9FFFF96.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.255.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD0B43D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:37:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-questions@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 80293 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 22:37:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:37:45 +0100 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050323223723.GC75716@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> <20050323193716.GI7474@weller-fahy.com> <4241EDB9.5000107@toldme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4241EDB9.5000107@toldme.com> X-URL-Me: http://weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Scripting oddness (sh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:37:49 -0000 --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Danny Howard [2005-03-23 23:29 +0100]: > Bonus points if you inline the relevant portion, or at least name your > attachment something like foo.sh. And, as pointed out - apparently that didn't work either. Here's the relevant portion of the script (I'll include only the function that seems to be causing the trouble): #v+ list_not_required_by() { PKGLIST="" for PKG in $@ ; do if [ -s $PKGDB/$PKG/+REQUIRED_BY ] ; then # grab list of packages this package is required by RB_LIST=`cat $PKGDB/$PKG/+REQUIRED_BY` RB_TEMP=$RB_LIST for RB in $RB_LIST ; do for RM_PKG in $@ ; do if [ "$RB" = "$RM_PKG" ] ; then RB_TEMP=`echo $RB_TEMP | sed "s/$RM_PKG[^ ]*//g"` break fi done done [ -z "$RB_TEMP" ] && PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" else PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" fi done # true } #v- The line consisting of '# true' seems to be the clincher, as mentioned in the previous email. I'm also attaching the rm_leaf.sh file renamed to foo.txt. Thanks for the hint, Danny. Regards, -- dave [ please don't CC me ] --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="foo.txt" #!/bin/sh # $HOME/bin/remove_leaves.sh set -e set_variables() { LETC="/usr/local/etc" PBASE="/usr/ports" PKGDB="/var/db/pkg" RMLFCNF="rm_leaf.conf" # get a list of packages not to touch NOTLIST=`cat $LETC/$RMLFCNF` # get list of packages from FreeBSD's packages database PKGLIST=`cd $PKGDB && find . -type d | sed '/^.$/d;s/^\.\///'` } cut_keepers() { for PKG in $@ ; do # remove any packages that are in the parameter list PKGLIST=`echo $PKGLIST | sed "s/$PKG[^ ]*//g"` done } list_not_required_by() { # In this function, we need to create a list of all those packages that are: # 1. Not required by any other package # 2. Required by a package that is being removed - this would be easier # using C or something where I could use an array of char[], or # using the database access methods in portmanagers library, but I'm # hashing it out in sh first (then I'll convert). # So, first things first, we'll use the PKGLIST as a starting point. # PKGLIST will be the working list of removable packages (since we # passed as a parameter, we don't need to preserve it). # wipe out PKGLIST, we don't need it PKGLIST="" for PKG in $@ ; do if [ -s $PKGDB/$PKG/+REQUIRED_BY ] ; then # grab list of packages this package is required by RB_LIST=`cat $PKGDB/$PKG/+REQUIRED_BY` RB_TEMP=$RB_LIST for RB in $RB_LIST ; do for RM_PKG in $@ ; do if [ "$RB" = "$RM_PKG" ] ; then RB_TEMP=`echo $RB_TEMP | sed "s/$RM_PKG[^ ]*//g"` break fi done done [ -z "$RB_TEMP" ] && PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" else PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" fi done # true } create_rm_list() { # match up packages to origin in the ports tree for PKG in $@ ; do RMLIST="${RMLIST:-} $PKG:$PBASE/`pkg_info -o $( echo $PKG ) | sed -n '/^Origin:$/{n;p;}'`" done } set_variables cut_keepers $NOTLIST list_not_required_by $PKGLIST [ -z "$PKGLIST" ] && echo "No packages/ports to remove." && exit create_rm_list $PKGLIST echo "#!/bin/sh" echo "# script to remove all leaf packages not listed in $LETC/rm_leaf.conf" echo "set -e" ; echo for PKG in $RMLIST ; do PNAME=`echo $PKG | sed 's/:.*$//'` PPATH=`echo $PKG | sed 's/^[^:]*://'` echo "echo \"Removing $PNAME in $PPATH:\"" echo "cd $PPATH" echo "make deinstall clean distclean" echo "echo \"Success!\" ; echo" echo done --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:41:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFBC16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk (heisenberg.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7EA43D41 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.177] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DEEXU-0004Ci-9u for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:24 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) j2NMfUPf047277 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:30 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2NMf6a4022705 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:18 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2NMf6Rh022704 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:06 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:06 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20050323224004.GC18518@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.177] Subject: FreeBSD-5.4 PreRelease vs HP OmniBook XE2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:41:26 -0000 Hello, I've just installed and upgraded an HP OmniBook XE2 laptop to FreeBSD-5.4 PreRelease here and find that I can't get the default install of xorg to run at 800x600. I used to have FreeBSD-4Stable up until a week ago, which I decided to reinstall to version 5 after hitting problems updating to the latest Gnome. I've tried using the same settings for depth / resolution that "just worked" using XFree86, but the screen just starts to look as if its going to "melt" with the strange look the tft screen takes on after running startx. Here's the screen section with the XFree86 settings that used to work in FreeBSD-4Stable: Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "pci_burst" # [] #Option "fifo_conservative" # [] #Option "fifo_moderate" # [] #Option "fifo_aggressive" # [] #Option "pci_retry" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "set_mclk" # #Option "show_cache" # [] #Option "HWCursor" # [] #Option "SWCursor" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "ByteSwap" # [] #Option "Interlaced" # [] #Option "UseBIOS" # [] #Option "ZoomOnLCD" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "siliconmotion" VendorName "Silicon Motion, Inc." BoardName "SM810 LynxE" Option "UseBIOS" "off" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection These settings just won't work with xorg. This is what works in terms of only 600x480 in xorg: Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "pci_burst" # [] #Option "fifo_conservative" # [] #Option "fifo_moderate" # [] #Option "fifo_aggressive" # [] #Option "pci_retry" # [] #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "set_mclk" # #Option "show_cache" # [] #Option "HWCursor" # [] #Option "SWCursor" # [] #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "Rotate" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "ByteSwap" # [] #Option "Interlaced" # [] #Option "UseBIOS" # [] #Option "ZoomOnLCD" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "siliconmotion" VendorName "Silicon Motion, Inc." BoardName "SM810 LynxE" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Can anyone assist, please? If there is any more information I can supply, please let me know. Thanks for the time. Regards, Stacey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:55:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C661716A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:55:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com [81.94.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C5443D49 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfalizer@gmail.com) Received: by 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 453D460F4; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:59:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:59:35 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions list Message-ID: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:55:54 -0000 I'm trying to get FreeBSD to "see" my iPod filesystem. I stumbled across this howto, http://www.osxhax.com/archives/000009.html, that outlines the procedure when using firewire. Unfortunately, my board doesn't support fireware, and so I have to use USB. The iPod is detected at boot, as can be seen in the log: * This section takes a long time to complete * (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command * End of section * GEOM: new disk da0 ioapic0: routing intpin 1 (ISA IRQ 1) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 3 (ISA IRQ 3) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 4 (ISA IRQ 4) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 6 (ISA IRQ 6) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 7 (ISA IRQ 7) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 8 (ISA IRQ 8) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 9 (ISA IRQ 9) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 13 (ISA IRQ 13) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 14 (ISA IRQ 14) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 15 (ISA IRQ 15) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 16 (PCI IRQ 16) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 18 (PCI IRQ 18) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 21 (PCI IRQ 21) to cluster 0 ioapic0: routing intpin 22 (PCI IRQ 22) to cluster 0 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: Serial Number JQ5040KTPS9 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) The marked section takes several minutes to complete. I thought I'd try mounting da0 as is done in the tutorial, the fstab entry being, /dev/da0 /ipod msdos rw,noauto 0 0 , but it fails with the error message "msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument." I get no other da0* /dev entries. The boot message for the USB port to which I attached the iPod (which is a USB 2.0 port) might also be helpful, so I'll include it: usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 does the last line mean FreeBSD isn't correctly detecting USB 2.0 on the port? I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, using a Epox nForce2 motherboard. Help appreciated as always. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:01:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CAF16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:01:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E7743D4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:01:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1AE388C4C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:01:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:01:40 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <423551A7187FB1AEDBCC9A2A@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <200503232145.57304.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> References: <20050323204710.56664.qmail@web30202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3831.216.220.59.169.1111611800.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <200503232145.57304.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Firewall questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:01:41 -0000 --On Wednesday, March 23, 2005 09:45:56 PM +0000 RW wrote: > > Clamav is supposed to be good for filtering windows viruses out of email. > I know Fastmail.fm dropped Kaspersky in favour of Clamav, they claimed > the updates to be at least as good. > We did some pretty thorough testing of Clamav, uvscan (McAfee) and sophie (Sophos) side by side on a mail gateway using amavisd. Clamav was *almost* as good as McAfee and definitely better than Sophos at detecting viruses. Clamav beat uvscan hands down on cpu usage and detection of Phishing scams. Here's our latest stats - clamav is primary. uvscan only gets used if clamav doesn't detect a virus. These statistics represent data from 2005-03-01 to yesterday Total detections - 7369 Total phishing scams - 7080 Total viruses - 289 Total McAfee - 23 Total ClamAV - 266 The last two lines are *unique* detections. Basically what it means is that clamav missed 23 viruses that uvscan subsequently caught. So clamav has a 92.04% virus detection rate so far for the month. (Updates are fetched and installed automatically for both scanners.) When I was keeping separate stats on each, clamav ran about a half a percent behind uvscan and sophie *never* had an independent detection. It also had a much lower detection rate. (E.g. clamav 94.6, uvscan 95.3, sophie 91.8) Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:06:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1E916A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C76443D58 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:06:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id e.ba.6e4e43bf (15863); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r10 (mblk-r10.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.34]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-3df74241f679181; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:06:33 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:06:32 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FE1416E7B78A-B30-25840@mblk-r10.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050323225053.7793.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from 24.47.89.83 by mblk-r10.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:06:32 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <20050323225053.7793.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jason@ec.rr.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.34 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:06:40 -0000   > The answer, Boris, is that the "team" has no idea what  > they're doing. Check out some of the threads on  > performance testing. They tune little pieces here  > and there, and break 10 other things in the process.  > Matt Dillon "determined" that 10,000 ints/second  > was "optimal". Of course if you're passing 10Kpps  > that means you get an interrupt for every  > packet.  >  > They're playing pin the tail on the donkey.  >  You could understand what he was saying? I wanted to help but was unsure of what he was asking. I also seem to remember that discussion you are referring too. IIRC, 10,000hz for pooling was the setting they ere talking about. But on it would very a little, and with the fxp based card polling hurt a little because the card was already ding its own thing in hardware. So that setting was redundant, it was best to leave it alone.   He also seemed to say the network bandwidth was constant, and system load rose with an 64bit system. This right? If he was using GENERIC on a smp system he was only using 1 cpu with out a recompile. There is just so much that could be wrong and he gives no information on his system or settings.   Doess he have 2 amd64 pcs with 2 different installs of 5.3, or a single machine that he ran both versions on? The router, is that a third machine that was an amd64 system, or something else? He says i386, but an up to date 5.3 world doesn't support 386 with out a work around. The least commom setting is now 486, but a build for 686 would be better. Did he tell you if he had polling on?    So I guess it is a good thing you were able to help him, because I couldn't. Not to mention the flame bait you through out, well, that would be wrong. _______________________________________________  --------- Previous Message No, thats not what I was talking about. They were tuning the MAX_INTS parameter for the em driver, which can hold off interrupts to reduce system overhead. Instead of minimizing the load, they were focused on squeezing a few extra bits out of iperf, which is not how you tune performance. If you get 700Kb/s and have a 95% load and can get 695Kb/s with 60% load, which is better? Plus they were testing with a regular PCI bus, so they were hitting the wall on the bus throughput, which changes all the timings, so it was just a stupid test in general. I'm not 100% sure of what he was saying, but I've seen the same thing. I take an i386 disk and pop on an amd64 disk with the same settings, except for the 3 or 4 required differences, and the i386 machine has WAY less network load. So maybe your buildworld runs faster, but the whole interrupt/process switching mechanism runs like crap, so you likely have a slower machine. I haven't seen any test that shows otherwise, just a bunch of swell guys swearing that one thing is faster than another. I understand that you don't want to hear the truth, so flame away. But its not going to make things any better. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:13:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE31216A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:13:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2FE43D1F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:13:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) (209.6.197.67) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Mar 2005 18:13:36 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.91,116,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="14176221:sNHT20014412" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16961.63535.308365.99806@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:13:51 -0500 To: freebsd-questions list In-Reply-To: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> References: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:13:38 -0000 Ulf Magnusson writes: > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting > usb1: on ohci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > > does the last line mean FreeBSD isn't correctly detecting USB 2.0 > on the port? As I remember it: a) USB 2.0 requires the EHCI driver b) the EHCI driver, while much improved over previous versions, is still not 100% ready for prime time. (You should search the list archives for more information,) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:20:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8594616A4CE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mallaury.noc.nerim.net (smtp-103-wednesday.noc.nerim.net [62.4.17.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2818B43D39; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bettan@nerim.net) Received: from frederic (linux-win.org [62.212.96.206]) by mallaury.noc.nerim.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 08F4662D36; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:20:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001f01c52ffe$ecf253f0$0401a8c0@frederic> From: "cell" To: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:20:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0512-0, 22/03/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: boot problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:20:43 -0000 hello , i have already the sameproblem when i boot with freebsd 5.3 = since i have had a power cut .The message of the error is :=20 error 16 Iba 191 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: error 16 Iba 191 No /kernel I have tried boot : /kernel.old but i have No /kernel.old and i don't = know how do with the bootonly cd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:25:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F79D16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:25:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f40.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3586A43D39 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:25:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:25:42 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 208.186.59.238 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:25:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.59.238] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] X-Sender: missive@hotmail.com From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 03:55:41 +0430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2005 23:25:42.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[A169D240:01C52FFF] Subject: Re: mixer: /dev/mixer: Device not configured X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:25:42 -0000 http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/multimedia.html http://www.google.com/search?q=mixer%3A+%2Fdev%2Fmixer%3A+Device+not+configured _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:40:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089DA16A4CE; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coresikhism.net (c-67-161-59-235.client.comcast.net [67.161.59.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E7443D5C; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:40:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aman@chamkila.org) Received: from [192.168.96.214] ([69.36.228.194]) by coresikhism.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2NNdKSS026318; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:39:41 -0800 Message-ID: <4241FE3C.9070800@chamkila.org> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:39:40 -0800 From: Amandeep User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20050119103214.A27409@pooker.samsco.org> <37799.69.36.228.194.1109286815.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <421E604F.3080305@samsco.org> <34148.69.36.228.194.1110235564.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <44497.69.36.228.194.1110474073.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <32883.69.36.228.194.1110831839.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <20050314202905.GT91771@hub.freebsd.org> <34997.69.36.228.194.1110832499.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <20050314203715.GW91771@hub.freebsd.org> <56241.69.36.228.194.1110931336.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <42377D8A.1020905@rojer.pp.ru> <4241F2C0.4000604@chamkila.org> In-Reply-To: <4241F2C0.4000604@chamkila.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.0 Named issue stops itself?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:40:33 -0000 Hi all, I am running FreeBSD 5.0 and named . The problem is that it named services are crahing every few hrs.. Here are some logs. Any ideas why named is doing that. Thanks in advance, Aman Mar 17 12:00:00 newsyslog[499]: logfile turned over Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.3.3-REL Thu Jan 16 19:58:17 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "pcrs.net" (file db.pcrs.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "backattheranchfurniture.com" (file db.backattheranchfurniture.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "cattleyaks.com" (file db.cattleyaks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "coloradoantlers.com" (file db.coloradoantlers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "coloradocascades.net" (file db.coloradocascades.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "crestedbutte.cc" (file db.crestedbutte.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "crestedbutteimages.com" (file db.crestedbutteimages.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "crestedbuttemountain.com" (file db.crestedbuttemountain.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com" (file db.eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "garagedoorsrus.com" (file db.garagedoorsrus.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "gastu.org" (file db.gastu.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "getdusa.com" (file db.getdusa.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "gunnison.cc" (file db.gunnison.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "mindyland.com" (file db.mindyland.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "mannahealthy.com" (file db.mannahealthy.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "mindycrestedbutterealestate.com" (file db.mindycrestedbutterealestate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "mesamech.com" (file db.mesamech.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "otherwhen.com" (file db.otherwhen.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "quartercircle.net" (file db.quartercircle.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "rockymtnsatellite.com" (file db.rockymtnsatellite.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "ronnieholze.com" (file db.ronnieholze.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "schnee-berg.com" (file db.schnee-berg.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "shrikeforce.com" (file db.shrikeforce.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "snotrackers.com" (file db.snotrackers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "snotrakkers.com" (file db.snotrakkers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "snowmobiling.net" (file db.snowmobiling.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "tibetanyak.com" (file db.tibetanyak.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[516]: Zone "todayrealtyinc.net" (file db.todayrealtyinc.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 17 12:01:20 named[517]: Ready to answer queries. Mar 17 12:01:20 named[517]: check_hints: A records for B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET class 1 do not match hint records Mar 17 12:25:02 sm-mta[578]: j2HCP24g000578: SYSERR(root): Unknown ruleset Basic_check_relay Mar 17 14:16:01 su: kelly to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 18 07:21:35 su: tech to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 18 15:37:22 named[517]: late CNAME in answer section for dns.skydive.poznan.pl A from [195.116.20.130].53 Mar 18 16:32:18 su: kelly to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 19 06:05:21 sshd[7787]: fatal: Timeout before authentication for 203.120.105.67 Mar 19 09:25:24 sshd[8345]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:25:27 sshd[8346]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:29 sshd[8350]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:30 sshd[8350]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:32 sshd[8354]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:33 sshd[8357]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:25:35 sshd[8358]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:35 sshd[8358]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:38 sshd[8362]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:38 sshd[8362]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:41 sshd[8366]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:41 sshd[8366]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:43 sshd[8370]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:44 sshd[8373]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:25:46 sshd[8374]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:47 sshd[8374]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:49 sshd[8378]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:49 sshd[8378]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:52 sshd[8382]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:54 sshd[8386]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:55 sshd[8386]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:57 sshd[8390]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:25:57 sshd[8390]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:00 sshd[8394]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:00 sshd[8394]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:02 sshd[8398]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:03 sshd[8398]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:05 sshd[8404]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:05 sshd[8407]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:26:08 sshd[8408]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:08 sshd[8411]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:26:10 sshd[8412]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:11 sshd[8412]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:13 sshd[8416]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:14 sshd[8416]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:16 sshd[8420]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:16 sshd[8420]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:19 sshd[8424]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:19 sshd[8427]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:26:21 sshd[8428]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:22 sshd[8428]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:24 sshd[8432]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:24 sshd[8435]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:26:27 sshd[8436]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:27 sshd[8436]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:30 sshd[8440]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:30 sshd[8440]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:32 sshd[8444]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:33 sshd[8444]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:35 sshd[8448]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:35 sshd[8448]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:38 sshd[8452]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:38 sshd[8452]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:40 sshd[8456]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:41 sshd[8456]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:43 sshd[8460]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:43 sshd[8460]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:46 sshd[8464]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:46 sshd[8464]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:48 sshd[8468]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:49 sshd[8468]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:54 sshd[8472]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:55 sshd[8472]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:57 sshd[8476]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:26:57 sshd[8479]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:27:00 sshd[8480]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:00 sshd[8480]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:02 sshd[8484]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:03 sshd[8487]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:27:05 sshd[8488]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:05 sshd[8491]: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write Mar 19 09:27:08 sshd[8492]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:08 sshd[8492]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:10 sshd[8496]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:11 sshd[8496]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:13 sshd[8500]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:13 sshd[8500]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:16 sshd[8504]: error: authentication error Mar 19 09:27:16 sshd[8504]: error: authentication error Mar 19 12:09:55 su: tech to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.3.3-REL Thu Jan 16 19:58:17 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "pcrs.net" (file db.pcrs.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "backattheranchfurniture.com" (file db.backattheranchfurniture.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "cattleyaks.com" (file db.cattleyaks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "coloradoantlers.com" (file db.coloradoantlers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "coloradocascades.net" (file db.coloradocascades.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "crestedbutte.cc" (file db.crestedbutte.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "crestedbutteimages.com" (file db.crestedbutteimages.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "crestedbuttemountain.com" (file db.crestedbuttemountain.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com" (file db.eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "garagedoorsrus.com" (file db.garagedoorsrus.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gastu.org" (file db.gastu.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "getdusa.com" (file db.getdusa.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gunnison.cc" (file db.gunnison.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gunnisoncoc.org" (file db.gunnisoncoc.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gunnisonoutfitters.com" (file db.gunnisonoutfitters.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gunnisonsatellite.com" (file db.gunnisonsatellite.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "gunnylaw.com" (file db.gunnylaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "inservicetraining.com" (file db.inservicetraining.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "jacobshouse.com" (file db.jacobshouse.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "jamesrayspahn.com" (file db.jamesrayspahn.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "lacyranch.com" (file db.lacyranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "laptoppirate.com" (file db.laptoppirate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "lakecity.net" (file db.lakecity.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "lakecitymillworks.com" (file db.lakecitymillworks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "mindyland.com" (file db.mindyland.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "mannahealthy.com" (file db.mannahealthy.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "mindycrestedbutterealestate.com" (file db.mindycrestedbutterealestate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "mesamech.com" (file db.mesamech.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "otherwhen.com" (file db.otherwhen.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "quartercircle.net" (file db.quartercircle.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "rockymtnsatellite.com" (file db.rockymtnsatellite.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "ronnieholze.com" (file db.ronnieholze.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "schnee-berg.com" (file db.schnee-berg.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "shrikeforce.com" (file db.shrikeforce.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "snotrackers.com" (file db.snotrackers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "snotrakkers.com" (file db.snotrakkers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "snowmobiling.net" (file db.snowmobiling.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "tibetanyak.com" (file db.tibetanyak.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "todayrealtyinc.net" (file db.todayrealtyinc.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "tradersrendezvous.com" (file db.tradersrendezvous.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "whiteelkranch.com" (file db.whiteelkranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "wildflowerweddings.com" (file db.wildflowerweddings.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "wilsonrealty.net" (file db.wilsonrealty.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "wildwoodmotel.net" (file db.wildwoodmotel.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "wodlaw.com" (file db.wodlaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "youngminds.com" (file db.youngminds.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: db_load could not open: db.schraderclan.com: No such file or directory Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "168.229.205.in-addr.arpa" (file pcrs-reverse): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10291]: Zone "165.197.65.in-addr.arpa" (file gunnisonsatellite-reverse): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10292]: Ready to answer queries. Mar 19 12:09:58 named[10292]: check_hints: A records for B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET class 1 do not match hint records Mar 19 12:13:29 su: tech to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 19 19:15:11 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:15:13 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:15:14 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:15:15 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 282 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:18:35 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:18:36 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:18:39 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 280 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:20:30 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 254 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:20:32 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 234 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:20:33 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 263 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 19:20:35 kernel: Limiting closed port RST response from 284 to 200 packets per second Mar 19 14:10:55 rlogind[10688]: Connection from 220.65.64.3 on illegal port Mar 19 20:09:29 named[10292]: late CNAME in answer section for dns.skydive.poznan.pl A from [195.116.20.130].53 Mar 20 22:42:01 su: tech to root on /dev/ttyp0 Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.3.3-REL Thu Jan 16 19:58:17 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "pcrs.net" (file db.pcrs.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "backattheranchfurniture.com" (file db.backattheranchfurniture.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "cattleyaks.com" (file db.cattleyaks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "coloradoantlers.com" (file db.coloradoantlers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "coloradocascades.net" (file db.coloradocascades.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "crestedbutte.cc" (file db.crestedbutte.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "crestedbutteimages.com" (file db.crestedbutteimages.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "crestedbuttemountain.com" (file db.crestedbuttemountain.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com" (file db.eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "garagedoorsrus.com" (file db.garagedoorsrus.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gastu.org" (file db.gastu.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "getdusa.com" (file db.getdusa.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gunnison.cc" (file db.gunnison.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gunnisoncoc.org" (file db.gunnisoncoc.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gunnisonoutfitters.com" (file db.gunnisonoutfitters.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gunnisonsatellite.com" (file db.gunnisonsatellite.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "gunnylaw.com" (file db.gunnylaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "inservicetraining.com" (file db.inservicetraining.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "jacobshouse.com" (file db.jacobshouse.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "jamesrayspahn.com" (file db.jamesrayspahn.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "lacyranch.com" (file db.lacyranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "laptoppirate.com" (file db.laptoppirate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "lakecity.net" (file db.lakecity.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "lakecitymillworks.com" (file db.lakecitymillworks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "mindyland.com" (file db.mindyland.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "mannahealthy.com" (file db.mannahealthy.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "mindycrestedbutterealestate.com" (file db.mindycrestedbutterealestate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "mesamech.com" (file db.mesamech.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "otherwhen.com" (file db.otherwhen.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "quartercircle.net" (file db.quartercircle.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "rockymtnsatellite.com" (file db.rockymtnsatellite.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "ronnieholze.com" (file db.ronnieholze.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "schnee-berg.com" (file db.schnee-berg.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "shrikeforce.com" (file db.shrikeforce.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "snotrackers.com" (file db.snotrackers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "snotrakkers.com" (file db.snotrakkers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "snowmobiling.net" (file db.snowmobiling.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "tibetanyak.com" (file db.tibetanyak.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "todayrealtyinc.net" (file db.todayrealtyinc.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "tradersrendezvous.com" (file db.tradersrendezvous.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "whiteelkranch.com" (file db.whiteelkranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "wildflowerweddings.com" (file db.wildflowerweddings.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "wilsonrealty.net" (file db.wilsonrealty.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "wildwoodmotel.net" (file db.wildwoodmotel.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "wodlaw.com" (file db.wodlaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "youngminds.com" (file db.youngminds.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: db_load could not open: db.schraderclan.com: No such file or directory Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "168.229.205.in-addr.arpa" (file pcrs-reverse): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17732]: Zone "165.197.65.in-addr.arpa" (file gunnisonsatellite-reverse): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17733]: Ready to answer queries. Mar 20 22:42:05 named[17733]: check_hints: A records for B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET class 1 do not match hint records Mar 21 13:09:01 sshd[18962]: fatal: Timeout before authentication for 193.140.183.3 Mar 21 15:25:10 kernel: em0: Link is Down Mar 21 15:25:15 kernel: em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.3.3-REL Thu Jan 16 19:58:17 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "pcrs.net" (file db.pcrs.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "backattheranchfurniture.com" (file db.backattheranchfurniture.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "cattleyaks.com" (file db.cattleyaks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "coloradoantlers.com" (file db.coloradoantlers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "coloradocascades.net" (file db.coloradocascades.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "crestedbutte.cc" (file db.crestedbutte.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "crestedbutteimages.com" (file db.crestedbutteimages.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "crestedbuttemountain.com" (file db.crestedbuttemountain.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com" (file db.eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "garagedoorsrus.com" (file db.garagedoorsrus.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "gastu.org" (file db.gastu.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "getdusa.com" (file db.getdusa.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "gunnylaw.com" (file db.gunnylaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "inservicetraining.com" (file db.inservicetraining.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "jacobshouse.com" (file db.jacobshouse.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "jamesrayspahn.com" (file db.jamesrayspahn.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "lacyranch.com" (file db.lacyranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "laptoppirate.com" (file db.laptoppirate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "lakecity.net" (file db.lakecity.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "lakecitymillworks.com" (file db.lakecitymillworks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "mindyland.com" (file db.mindyland.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "mannahealthy.com" (file db.mannahealthy.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "mindycrestedbutterealestate.com" (file db.mindycrestedbutterealestate.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "mesamech.com" (file db.mesamech.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "otherwhen.com" (file db.otherwhen.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19422]: Zone "quartercircle.net" (file db.quartercircle.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:26:56 named[19423]: Ready to answer queries. Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.3.3-REL Thu Jan 16 19:58:17 GMT 2003 root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "pcrs.net" (file db.pcrs.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "backattheranchfurniture.com" (file db.backattheranchfurniture.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "cattleyaks.com" (file db.cattleyaks.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "coloradoantlers.com" (file db.coloradoantlers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "coloradocascades.net" (file db.coloradocascades.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "crestedbutte.cc" (file db.crestedbutte.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "crestedbutteimages.com" (file db.crestedbutteimages.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "crestedbuttemountain.com" (file db.crestedbuttemountain.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com" (file db.eaglesalesofcrestedbutte.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "garagedoorsrus.com" (file db.garagedoorsrus.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "gastu.org" (file db.gastu.org): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "getdusa.com" (file db.getdusa.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "gunnison.cc" (file db.gunnison.cc): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "schnee-berg.com" (file db.schnee-berg.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "shrikeforce.com" (file db.shrikeforce.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "snotrackers.com" (file db.snotrackers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "snotrakkers.com" (file db.snotrakkers.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "snowmobiling.net" (file db.snowmobiling.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "tibetanyak.com" (file db.tibetanyak.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "todayrealtyinc.net" (file db.todayrealtyinc.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "tradersrendezvous.com" (file db.tradersrendezvous.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "whiteelkranch.com" (file db.whiteelkranch.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "wildflowerweddings.com" (file db.wildflowerweddings.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "wilsonrealty.net" (file db.wilsonrealty.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "wildwoodmotel.net" (file db.wildwoodmotel.net): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "wodlaw.com" (file db.wodlaw.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: Zone "youngminds.com" (file db.youngminds.com): No default TTL ($TTL ) set, using SOA minimum instead Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19432]: db_load could not open: db.schraderclan.com: No such file or directory Mar 21 08:32:54 named[19433]: Ready to answer queries. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 16 22:16:53 GMT 2003 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: root@hollin.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0673000. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc06730a8. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2398854108 Hz Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: CPU: Pentium 4 (2398.85-MHz 686-class CPU) Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Features=0xffffffffbfebfbff> Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: real memory = 259981312 (247 MB) Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: avail memory = 245620736 (234 MB) Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Initializing GEOMetry subsystem Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: npx0: on motherboard Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE31 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Using $PIR table, 12 entries at 0xc00fde90 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi_cpu1: on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi_tz0: on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: agp0: mem 0xec100000-0xec17ffff,0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff irq 12 at device 2.0 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: agp0: aperture size is 128M Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhci0: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 12 at device 29.0 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 9 at device 29.1 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 5 at device 29.2 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb2: on uhci2 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: em0: port 0xa000-0xa03f mem 0xec000000-0xec01ffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: em0: Speed:100 Mbps Duplex:Full Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: em1: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xec020000-0xec03ffff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci1 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: em1: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: isa0: on isab0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: atapci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc0f,0xc800-0xc803,0xc400-0xc407,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07 mem 0xec181000-0xec1813ff at device 31.1 on pci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: sio0: type 16550A Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: sio1: type 16550A Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: plip0: on ppbus0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: lpt0: on ppbus0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: ppi0: on ppbus0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Mar 21 15:38:11 stryder kernel: orm0: . It's the notation used in Emacs manuals. Some keyboards have special keys labeled "Meta", but if yours doesn't you can just hit for ``M-''. Thus, ``M-!'' means hit once and then `!'. I also believe that mc has a nice manual, accessible by hitting F1. You have been posting many questions that have their answers in there. Please, read it :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 15:30:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB6416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:30:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scorpion.eng.ufl.edu (scorpion.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 772DC43D5C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:30:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@eng.ufl.edu) Received: (qmail 23022 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 15:30:52 -0000 Received: from scanner.engnet.ufl.edu (HELO ?128.227.152.221?) (128.227.152.221) by scorpion.eng.ufl.edu with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 15:30:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:30:52 -0500 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Risdon References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> In-Reply-To: <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Josh Ockert Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:30:54 -0000 Peter Risdon wrote: >On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:05 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote: > > >>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +0000, Peter Risdon >> wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by Russian >>>>speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions here. >>>>I don't believe this is a fair response. >>>> >>>> >>>Perhaps, though I'm not sure myself what is said in Russian to them >>>whereas I can read the French. But the reply in, I think, Swedish to >>>this question in French was a very good indication of what an impossible >>>babel this or any other list would be if a single language were not >>>declared and respected. >>> >>>Peter. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>You could equally argue that this place is already a babel; mentally >>disregarding messages in foreign languages should be just as easy as >>ignoring the questions about particular hardware you know nothing >>about. We're all Internet literate here (at any rate, most of us ;) ), >>which suggests that we've the ability to pick out the important and/or >>applicable bits from masses of information. >> >> > >No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can >understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in >English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues ourselves >we can google and get a reply we can understand. You are suggesting this >incredibly useful situation be broken, if I understand you right. And >this applies to French and Russian speakers equally: this is an English >list, there are also French and Russian lists. I'd argue just as >strongly that postings to the French list should be in French. > >Peter. > > This is the default world-wide FreeBSD support list. Postings in any language have always been welcome (at least since I subscribed in 1997). Who put you in charge of deciding otherwise? - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 15:34:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A53B16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:34:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73A43D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 1002618 for multiple; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:34:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5801d657212f86da1866c3befccd76eb@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:33:52 -0500 To: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: Peter Risdon cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Josh Ockert Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:34:06 -0000 On Mar 24, 2005, at 10:30 AM, Bob Johnson wrote: > Peter Risdon wrote: > >> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:05 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:51:51 +0000, Peter Risdon >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 08:54 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've noticed that nobody responds negatively to questions by >>>>> Russian >>>>> speakers, but that French speakers are told not to ask questions >>>>> here. >>>>> I don't believe this is a fair response. >>>>> >>>> Perhaps, though I'm not sure myself what is said in Russian to them >>>> whereas I can read the French. But the reply in, I think, Swedish to >>>> this question in French was a very good indication of what an >>>> impossible >>>> babel this or any other list would be if a single language were not >>>> declared and respected. >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> You could equally argue that this place is already a babel; mentally >>> disregarding messages in foreign languages should be just as easy as >>> ignoring the questions about particular hardware you know nothing >>> about. We're all Internet literate here (at any rate, most of us ;) >>> ), >>> which suggests that we've the ability to pick out the important >>> and/or >>> applicable bits from masses of information. >>> >> >> No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can >> understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in >> English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues >> ourselves >> we can google and get a reply we can understand. You are suggesting >> this >> incredibly useful situation be broken, if I understand you right. And >> this applies to French and Russian speakers equally: this is an >> English >> list, there are also French and Russian lists. I'd argue just as >> strongly that postings to the French list should be in French. >> >> Peter. >> > This is the default world-wide FreeBSD support list. Postings in any > language > have always been welcome (at least since I subscribed in 1997). Who > put you > in charge of deciding otherwise? How about we all agree to only ask questions in C? Or will people start arguing in C++ or Python after that? :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 15:51:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6CF16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:51:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scorpion.eng.ufl.edu (scorpion.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAFD443D5C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:51:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@eng.ufl.edu) Received: (qmail 25554 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 15:51:04 -0000 Received: from scanner.engnet.ufl.edu (HELO ?128.227.152.221?) (128.227.152.221) by scorpion.eng.ufl.edu with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 15:51:04 -0000 Message-ID: <4242E1E8.1090602@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:04 -0500 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington References: <20050324151935.GA10374@ns2.wananchi.com> In-Reply-To: <20050324151935.GA10374@ns2.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC 2005 - mounting two slices from 2 different disks to same mount point ;) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:51:05 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: >Hello Gang! > >On FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, we have mounted slices as follows: > >-bash-2.05b$ mount >/dev/ad0s3a on / (ufs, local) >devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >/dev/ad0s3e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >/dev/ad0s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >/dev/ad0s3d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >/dev/ad0s5 on /drive_d (msdosfs, local) >/dev/ad3s1d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > >/dev/ad0s3e was 500MB >/dev/ad3s1d was 40GB > >In /etc/fstab, we specified the mount point for both to /tmp. > >We then wrote a 1GB file to /tmp and there was no error. The >file was successfully written. > >Can an expert with disks tell me where the file was written? >How did the system decide where to write the file? How did it >"select" /tmp in this case? > > > It was written to the last disk you mounted. When you mount a disk, it replaces whatever was mounted there previously. At least, that's what the mount docs say, I didn't actually try to test it. If you do a df it should show that /tmp has the capacity of the last drive you mounted there. Try mounting the 40GB drive first and then the 500 MB drive and run your test again. >Linux guys have talked about "disk spanning" using the method >we just tested. I am wondering the dangers I face doing such >a thing!! > > > If you want to span disks, take a look at gconcat(8) or vinum(8). gconcat replaces an older utility I don't remember the name of at the moment. >Happy Easter to ye all!! > > >-Wash > > - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 15:55:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AD216A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9242A43D2F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:55:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F04AF511C6; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:55:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:55:54 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20050324155554.GA29162@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050324055905.GA50653@il.fontys.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050324055905.GA50653@il.fontys.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE: panic in ffs_valloc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:55:55 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:59:05AM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > Hey guys, >=20 > I just tried to boot my UP Pentium 4 with an Intel PIIX4 IDE controller, = but > I get the following panic: >=20 > | Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > | WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > | Pre-seeding PRNG: kickstart. > | Loading configuration files. > | Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_point kickstart. > | swapon: adding /dev/ad0s2b as swap device > | Starting file system checks: > | /dev/ad0s2a: 993 files, 21581 used, 105258 free (1578 frags, 12960 bloc= ks, 1.2% fragmentation) > | /dec/ad0s2e: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING > | /dec/ad0s2f: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING > | /dec/ad0s2d: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING > | WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted > | WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted > | WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted > | mode =3D 01000, inum =3D 24775, fs =3D /var > | panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc > | Uptime: 15s Unfortunately that's a relatively common bug that no-one's been able to track down yet. It is sometimes associated to failing drives, but not always. Kris --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQuMKWry0BWjoQKURAnVFAKD8zBd9Vm5RSPDjyQeM80ZbDbKPqgCggUBW kTBIqW0SxRhTqXwpCFaHXaE= =C3Zk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 15:57:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615A016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:57:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prosporo.hedron.org (hedron.org [66.11.182.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFAD43D2F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ean@hedron.org) Received: from www.hedron.org (localhost.hedron.org [127.0.0.1]) by prosporo.hedron.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DA8C11D; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.220.59.169 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ean); by www.hedron.org with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:57:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4045.216.220.59.169.1111679860.squirrel@216.220.59.169> In-Reply-To: <20050324083132.GA19553@thought.org> References: <20050324083132.GA19553@thought.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:57:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Ean Kingston" To: "Gary Kline" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mount error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:57:24 -0000 > > People, > > Partitioning ad0s2 is fine. But I get a mount error in > the newfs section. Specifically: > > "Error mounting /mntg/dev/ad0s2e on /mnt/usr : Invalid argument" Gary, are you mounting it by hand? I wouldn't expect to see either the '/mntg' or the '/mnt' parts. > Anybody know what's causing this and how to get past this? double check to make sure your /etc/fstab is configured correctly. Make sure that the device (/dev/*) and the mount point (*/usr) actually exist before the filesystem gets mounted. -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean_AT_hedron_DOT_org PGP KeyID: 1024D/CBC5D6BB URL: http://www.hedron.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:00:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8169616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787C43D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22911 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 16:00:45 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail25.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Mar 2005 16:00:39 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C3BBC28; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:00:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323032253.27799.qmail@web54005.mail.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 24 Mar 2005 11:00:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20050323032253.27799.qmail@web54005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44mzstava2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: 4.11 without nameserver: "NO_BIND=true" is OK? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:00:46 -0000 Rob writes: > This machine will not run a nameserver; it will > query external nameservers for hostname resolution. > Is the "NO_BIND=true" is that case? It will probably work, but it will not update your resolver code. BIND isn't just named: it also includes the code that the system uses for querying other nameservers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:07:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B0416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:07:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D611E43D49 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:07:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so614079wra for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:content-type:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=W6QkPCaaeEFr9crUB3j5DQAwM3qRHtx6By9v3PemOxXwS5Meb/MffC0A8IXwj4/mlTY6SwefmIl9EGrNF5jzvd1vtrsZkMNUiCe+7tk0tUuYkiH538K5ke75KR//8RpgV27qy66NxjVrMhmYo1pUQU6HyAViiJxaWXfGVqZHc78= Received: by 10.54.28.76 with SMTP id b76mr296443wrb; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.160.117]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g2sm534835wra.2005.03.24.08.07.22; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: , Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C530B9.A0160D90" In-Reply-To: <8C6FE9C8F1C50E9-B50-2E021@mblk-d19.sysops.aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUwhg6uDNtjEwMUT3io4xmPM+AyJAABSOiA Message-ID: <4242e5bc.2543594f.2991.ffffa0d6@mx.gmail.com> Subject: RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:07:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C530B9.A0160D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of em1897@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre > > I think that warning people that the good name of "FreeBSD" is being > tainted by the current band of clowns is very productive. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2OGLACH074575 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:21:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj@kayjay.nl) From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:36:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <42409DA3.8090801@open-networks.net> In-Reply-To: <42409DA3.8090801@open-networks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503231736.53547.karelj@kayjay.nl> cc: Timothy Smith Subject: Re: installing 4.10 AND 5.3 on one system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:21:29 -0000 On Tuesday 22 March 2005 23:35, Timothy Smith wrote: > is it possible to install 4.10 and 5.3 on a single system? i'm need them > for testing a various times but i've only got the one system for them both. > i tried myself, but i ended up with getting "not ufs" error msg after > the boot prompt, it did show 2 freebsd options however. Yes that should be possible, but be aware that FreeBSD 4.x cannot read the UFS2 filesystem, which is the default for 5.3. Therefore the 4.x boot loader cannot boot 5.3, probably that's the problem you are seeing. Try reinstalling the boot loader using the 5.3 CD. HTH, Karel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:36:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195D916A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA65A43D48 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C93A388D01 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:36:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:36:32 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Monitoring critical processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:33 -0000 Is there a utility (perhaps in ports) that can 1) monitor critical processes and detect when they've stopped and 2) send an email alert (or even pager) and 3) restart the process if it's failed. I've been using shell scripts for this, but ISTM that somebody might have actually written a nice little program that does it. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:36:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00E116A4CF for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.snowfall.se (guldivar.globalwire.se [212.112.184.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9A143D49 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan@snowfall.se) Received: from [213.136.48.101] (unknown [213.136.48.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.snowfall.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0200534 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:36:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4242EC97.8070505@snowfall.se> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:36:39 +0100 From: Stefan Cars User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with ipfw2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:49 -0000 Hi! I have a very strange problem with our firewall using ipfw2. Below is my configuration file. The firewall is a briding firewall (em2,em3). After a few seconds (7-12 seconds) of ICMP pings to a machine behind the firewall suddenly starts blocking all traffic to that specific host. This is also true for networks that I have permitted at the top of the config. It rejects everything regardless of any rules I have made. Any ideas anyone ? # Trusted networks add permit ip from XXXX/28 to any add permit ip from XXXX/26 to any add permit ip from XXXX/25 to any add permit ip from any to any established # DNS add permit ip from any to any 53 # ICMP add permit icmp from any to any # HTTP add permit ip from any to any 80 add permit ip from any to any 443 # SSH add permit ip from any to any 22 # Deny everything else add deny ip from any to any From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E3816A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE0843D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so608889rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:39:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aaLTzm+tdWXbhb44+ZkGcEk6XNWrSJpbWooAYOxFcEkhH8DJLc+/dTQm+bzzDlAb/kIcGO8hKE2mB+nm/c1U7TSK+4aWHFL1V8wRbNZYerszu7MYxb5OvhI5PkosguZ9XgXqeY1LD3VUZLnN/T+OmKnjBHfwldmbLILnk2kOkZg= Received: by 10.38.165.79 with SMTP id n79mr1705147rne; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:39:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:39:40 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring critical processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:39:41 -0000 Paul, Nagios might meet your monitoring requirements? http://www.nagios.org/ --Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:41:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6B116A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:41:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7926143D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:41:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.29.6fadf396 (16112) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d51 (mblk-d51.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.235]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID124-3ef04242edbf134; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:41:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:41:35 -0500 From: em1897@aol.com Message-Id: <8C6FEA77A68A59E-C1C-2F9B9@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.235) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:41:35 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <4242e5bc.2543594f.2991.ffffa0d6@mx.gmail.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.235 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:41:46 -0000 Maybe you shouldn't prejudge. Its clear than no one with their own addresses has any answers. -----Original Message----- From: Subhro To: em1897@aol.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0530 Subject: RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of em1897@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre > > I think that warning people that the good name of "FreeBSD" is being > tainted by the current band of clowns is very productive. Its more like > a religion now; I've never seen so many people in total denial that > their OH NO!!! ANOTHER AOLer. One more entry added to my kill list. THIS IS MY EARNEST REQUEST TO ALL THE LIST MEMBERS. BANDWIDTH IS VERY COSTLY HERE SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT WASTE BANDWIDTH AND TIME BY FEEDING TROLLS. Best Regards S. Indian Institute of Information Technology Subhro Sankha Kar Block AQ-13/1, Sector V Salt Lake City PIN 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:50:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C9443D39 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.1c6.25167aa0 (16110) for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d51 (mblk-d51.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.235]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID122-3eee4242efb93de; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:50:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:50:01 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FEA8A7F7983E-C1C-2FB16@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <20050324162136.40902.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.235) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:50:01 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <20050324162136.40902.qmail@web90210.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.235 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:11 -0000 I think the point of a list is so that someone can say "oh yes, I had problems with the em driver in amd64 also; try card X." But instead you get a lot of people with no real idea trying to explain away the problem, as if there is no chance that the amd64 implementant just plain sucks wind. If someone who actually has an amd64 build could post some usage/load numbers, or someone who did some testing with various hardware, that might be useful. So far what we have is like a bunch of Mothers trying to defend their children without having any viable answers or evidence than amd64 is any good at all. Only a people who say nonsensical things like "my opteron blows away any P4", like a kid bragging about his mustang or something. The em driver has a standard hold-off of 8000 ints/second, so thats not likely the problem. Its likely to be the same in both i386 and amd64, so its a control.   So the whole interrupt/process switching mechanism runs like crap with the amd64 build? Since I don't have a amd64 system, and you might hav access to atleast 1, how about getting a little info on the irqs? Look at systat -vmstat or vmstat -i under load? aybe report it back? I wonder if the irq rates are changing, or irqs are taking longer to service. Either there is a problem. Ofcourse some hardware info would be nice, chipset and cpu? Maybe you script vmstat -i for a log, and use netperf too?   I like Nick's followup. I would guese Boris may have a problem with proper hardware support. I can't really said it is bad hardware if speeds are the same, just high load(right?). Maybe the driver he is using is not good for 64bit as it is for 32bit?    I think if Boris studies the thread I like to below he will be alright.   Check this out:  http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/thrd66.html  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200502171636.10361.drice    Inparticular:  http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19651.html  http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19679.html  _______________________________________________  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list  http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions  To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"  From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 16:50:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B9716A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeus.di.uoa.gr (zeus.di.uoa.gr [195.134.65.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD243D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from k.petropoulos@freemail.gr) Received: from kronos.di.uoa.gr (root@kronos.di.uoa.gr [195.134.65.119]) by zeus.di.uoa.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2OGpPlo016344 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from ppp-113.dialup.uoa.gr (ppp-113.dialup.uoa.gr [195.134.69.113]) by kronos.di.uoa.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2OGp223025211 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:03 +0200 (EET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:12 +0200 From: k.petropoulos@freemail.gr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.53 (Win32, build 3850) Subject: problem regarding DHCP and netgraph ether bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:50:58 -0000 Hello! I am trying to test the commands mentioned in http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200406/netgraph.html and it seems that there is no way at all to make the virtual interface (ngeth0) to get an IP address through DHCP (server running on a win98 box at 192.168.0.1). All the DHCPOFFERS seem to be ignored, despite there is no firewall or any other "bad" configuration issue (the DHCPOFFERS get sent from the DHCP server; confirmed via tcpdump). The "actual" network i/f (ep0) has no problem acquiring an IP address from the DHCP server as well. The funny thing is that if I "hardcode" an IP address to the ngeth0 (i.e. 192.168.0.5) and add the default route accordingly, I have perfect connectivity between the two machines (and from/to the Internet). Any ideas why the dhclient ignores the DHCPOFFERS when run for the ngeth0 i/f while it accepts them when run for the ep0 i/f? Thanks in advance. P.S. : Running 5.4-PRERELEASE #2 but I have experienced the same problem in previous 5-x snapshots. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:20:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232E916A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C182543D55 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50395 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2005 17:20:11 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=fyv+VCRHR+GqPE6EEFn+ndaYvVfMYkS9QkjuVIJ1mCmPO/4t1zUNQ9Epjed4aRJUBpTadodhVTgEkMw4i1/x4fY8WmQ1HNYecRYZJOZG3v6BTFCNViXCkd1HWLcSfFXkCy8jjbFwrsAexlng8mvhVDFWTURdkR7X/F5RS4nOR1w= ; Message-ID: <20050324172011.50393.qmail@web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:20:11 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: jason henson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <424256E6.5030301@ec.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:12 -0000 --- jason henson wrote: > em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > >> The answer, Boris, is that the "team" has no idea > what > >> they're doing. Check out some of the threads on > >> performance testing. They tune little pieces here > > >> and there, and break 10 other things in the > process. > >> Matt Dillon "determined" that 10,000 ints/second > >> was "optimal". Of course if you're passing 10Kpps > > >> that means you get an interrupt for every > >> packet. > >> > >> They're playing pin the tail on the donkey. > >> > > > > You could understand what he was saying? I wanted > to help but was > > unsure of what he was asking. I also seem to > remember that discussion > > you are referring too. IIRC, 10,000hz for pooling > was the setting they > > ere talking about. But on it would very a little, > and with the fxp > > based card polling hurt a little because the card > was already ding its > > own thing in hardware. So that setting was > redundant, it was best to > > leave it alone. > > He also seemed to say the network bandwidth was > constant, and system > > load rose with an 64bit system. This right? If he > was using GENERIC on > > a smp system he was only using 1 cpu with out a > recompile. There is > > just so much that could be wrong and he gives no > information on his > > system or settings. > > Doess he have 2 amd64 pcs with 2 different > installs of 5.3, or a > > single machine that he ran both versions on? The > router, is that a > > third machine that was an amd64 system, or > something else? He says > > i386, but an up to date 5.3 world doesn't support > 386 with out a work > > around. The least commom setting is now 486, but a > build for 686 would > > be better. Did he tell you if he had polling on? > > > > So I guess it is a good thing you were able to > help him, because I > > couldn't. Not to mention the flame bait you > through out, well, that > > would be wrong. > _______________________________________________ > > > > --------- Previous Message > > > > No, thats not what I was talking about. They were > tuning the MAX_INTS > > parameter for the em > > driver, which can hold off interrupts to reduce > system overhead. > > Instead of minimizing the load, > > they were focused on squeezing a few extra bits > out of iperf, which is > > not how you tune > > performance. If you get 700Kb/s and have a 95% > load and can get > > 695Kb/s with 60% load, > > which is better? Plus they were testing with a > regular PCI bus, so > > they were hitting the > > wall on the bus throughput, which changes all the > timings, so it was > > just a stupid test in > > general. > > > I would say 60% load. Now I completely understand > what you were saying. > > > > > I'm not 100% sure of what he was saying, but I've > seen the same thing. > > I take an i386 disk > > and pop on an amd64 disk with the same settings, > except for the 3 or 4 > > required differences, > > and the i386 machine has WAY less network load. So > maybe your > > buildworld runs faster, > > but the whole interrupt/process switching > mechanism runs like crap, so > > you likely have a > > slower machine. I haven't seen any test that shows > otherwise, just a > > bunch of swell > > guys swearing that one thing is faster than > another. > > > > I understand that you don't want to hear the > truth, so flame away. But > > its not going to make > > things any better. > > Ahh! More flame bait! I just didn't like you > platitudinal and > unproductive message that I believe would just drive > Boris onto linux > and leave a possible open problem on FreeBSD for > some one else to > discover latter. It's not that I don't want to hear > the truth, you were > just not saying anything worth his time. But > atleast now we can get > some where to help him and the amd64 port. I also > had the idea that > Boris was just trolling because he has not > responded, just said FreeBSD > was bad and left us to duke it out. > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > So the whole interrupt/process switching mechanism > runs like crap with > the amd64 build? Since I don't have a amd64 system, > and you might hav > access to atleast 1, how about getting a little info > on the irqs? Look > at systat -vmstat or vmstat -i under load? aybe > report it back? I > wonder if the irq rates are changing, or irqs are > taking longer to > service. Either there is a problem. Ofcourse some > hardware info would > be nice, chipset and cpu? Maybe you script vmstat > -i for a log, and use > netperf too? > > I like Nick's followup. I would guese Boris may > have a problem with > proper hardware support. I can't really said it is > bad hardware if > speeds are the same, just high load(right?). Maybe > the driver he is > using is not good for 64bit as it is for 32bit? > > I think if Boris studies the thread I like to below > he will be alright. > > Check this out: > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/thrd66.html > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200502171636.10361.drice > > Inparticular: > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19651.html > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19679.html > I always use systat -vmstat 1 to monitor usage. I also know to set MAX_INTS in if_em.c file. I use 8000 for both tests. I try with broadcom NICs soon. Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CC716A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51CB43D46 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so849853rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:24:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ojG/1A3oaaPpJC9Kzrik1DOi+hrU3qTgY5BnuSmosaCrsqovrH27xzwwYb4YMXdJ4sqlbHLkz3KhIA/rvZXkUYnQFO8ZWtmnYrCR3oz+5rYRSjVGk97Kx1HLh3w7LFM99S/+UwUyWs0vh9rYrVIeNt/Jpc+cfOLv498kOBAAd8s= Received: by 10.38.102.47 with SMTP id z47mr1758423rnb; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:24:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:24:18 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:21 -0000 Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time on the same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? Please dont answer emac or vi they are not made for teletubies :( I like the ee or mc editor but i dont think mc editor can open two files at the same time/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:28:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6B416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:28:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6E43D39 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:28:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j2OHSWR4041585; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:28:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:28:32 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050324172832.GB10908@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:28:35 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 24), Gert Cuykens said: > Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time > on the same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? > > Please dont answer emac or vi they are not made for teletubies :( I > like the ee or mc editor but i dont think mc editor can open two > files at the same time/ Try editors/joe-devel (which should probably be renamed to plain editors/joe) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D44C16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:29:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts6.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B80543D41 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alex@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca) Received: from localhost.my.domain ([65.95.231.125]) by simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20050324172954.IEYM1597.simmts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost.my.domain> for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:29:54 -0500 Received: from Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2OHVncP052113 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alex@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca) Received: (from alex@localhost)j2OHVhkL052112 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:31:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:31:43 -0500 From: Alexander Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050324173143.GA52016@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca.> References: <20050324020807.GA81223@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050324020807.GA81223@Toronto-HSE-ppp3682580.sympatico.ca.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: www/jakarta-tomcat5: Customizing server.xml...sed: /jakarta-tomcat-5.0.30/conf/server.xml: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:29:56 -0000 Solved. Updating ports with CVSup made this error go away. Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 09:08:07 PM, Alexander Anderson wrote: > Can someone give a clue why this happens? Thanks. > > alex:/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat5# make ... >>> Customizing server.xml...sed: /jakarta-tomcat-5.0.30/conf/server.xml: No such > file or directory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:32:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D28516A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:32:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE19843D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D17C388D2B; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:31:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:31:58 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Nick Pavlica Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring critical processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:32:33 -0000 --On Thursday, March 24, 2005 09:39:40 AM -0700 Nick Pavlica wrote: > Paul, > Nagios might meet your monitoring requirements? > http://www.nagios.org/ > Thanks, Nick. I knew of nagios, but I was not aware that it was capable of restarting stopped services. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:34:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914E716A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D2A43D46 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2OHYjCp007115 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:46 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9" Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:45 +0000 Message-Id: <1111685685.756.97.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: [Fwd: Re: mot de passe root] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:58 -0000 --=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Re: mot de passe root Content-Type: message/rfc822 Subject: Re: mot de passe root From: Peter Risdon To: Bob Johnson Cc: Josh Ockert In-Reply-To: <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:31:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:30 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > >No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can > >understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in > >English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues ourselves > >we can google and get a reply we can understand. You are suggesting this > >incredibly useful situation be broken, if I understand you right. And > >this applies to French and Russian speakers equally: this is an English > >list, there are also French and Russian lists. I'd argue just as > >strongly that postings to the French list should be in French. > > > >Peter. > > > > > This is the default world-wide FreeBSD support list. Postings in any > language > have always been welcome (at least since I subscribed in 1997). Who put > you > in charge of deciding otherwise? Crikey. Well, nobody, of course, and I'm not assuming that position. I was responding to and not initiating a thread. However: Please use an appropriate human language for a particular mailing list. Many non-English mailing lists are available. For the ones that are not, we do appreciate that many people do not speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that. It is considered particularly poor form to criticize non-native speakers for spelling or grammatical errors. FreeBSD has an excellent track record in this regard; please, help us to uphold that tradition. comes from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html and it's clearly implicit that lists are in English unless otherwise stated. This also seems implicit in statements such as: The newcomers accuse the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accuse the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. from How to get best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ So it seems clear that: - English is the language in use in lists unless otherwise stated - there are non-English lists. I responded because I do think it's important that the lists remain a useful archive, and that a call, as I read it, to splinter into many languages would break this. I argued as I did for the reasons I gave and not out of zenophobia, as you suggested in another post. I think you were out of line with that, but am not going to lose any sleep over it. Peter. --=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:37:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0732516A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:37:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C50643D46 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:13370) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEWH6-000LGN-H8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:37:40 +0000 Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CEC5822A0 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C8F58153F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.116 (SquirrelMail authenticated user albi) by aseed.demon.nl with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2922.192.168.0.116.1111685866.squirrel@aseed.demon.nl> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:37:46 +0100 (CET) From: "albi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:37:42 -0000 > Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time on > the same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? > > Please dont answer emac or vi they are not made for teletubies :( I > like the ee or mc editor but i dont think mc editor can open two files > at the same time/ joe does, and it rules! :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 17:42:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E149416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:42:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0570A43D4C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:42:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from f.staals@zonnet.nl) Received: (qmail 18071 invoked by uid 10); 24 Mar 2005 17:42:27 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 18054-D45A3FCC invoked from network) 24 Mar 2005 18:42:27 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.5]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 24 Mar 2005 17:42:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:43:44 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050302) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <20050324172832.GB10908@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20050324172832.GB10908@dan.emsphone.com> X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.30.0.2; VDF: 6.30.0.11; host: postbode01.zonnet.nl) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:42:30 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: >In the last episode (Mar 24), Gert Cuykens said: > > >>Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time >>on the same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? >> >>Please dont answer emac or vi they are not made for teletubies :( I >>like the ee or mc editor but i dont think mc editor can open two >>files at the same time/ >> >> > >Try editors/joe-devel (which should probably be renamed to plain >editors/joe) > > > Jep joe is realy cool, its my default text-editor and it can be used in a split-screen mode. you should probably get used to the commands you can use, first ctrl+ k seems a litle weird but when you get used to it it realy rules ( in fact when I'm working at school in word or notepad and I want to save my stuff I automatically do ctrl + k + d ) :D ctrl + k rules after you get used to it Good Luck Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:21:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CD716A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:21:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E94843D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 1018441 for multiple; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:21:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1111685685.756.97.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <1111685685.756.97.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7ef01a20e27a61da5da389183013e2d6@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:21:46 -0500 To: Peter Risdon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: mot de passe root] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:21:57 -0000 On Mar 24, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote: > > > From: Peter Risdon > Date: March 24, 2005 12:31:36 PM EST > To: Bob Johnson > Cc: Josh Ockert > Subject: Re: mot de passe root > > > On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:30 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > >>> No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can >>> understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in >>> English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues >>> ourselves >>> we can google and get a reply we can understand. You are suggesting >>> this >>> incredibly useful situation be broken, if I understand you right. And >>> this applies to French and Russian speakers equally: this is an >>> English >>> list, there are also French and Russian lists. I'd argue just as >>> strongly that postings to the French list should be in French. >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> >> This is the default world-wide FreeBSD support list. Postings in any >> language >> have always been welcome (at least since I subscribed in 1997). Who >> put >> you >> in charge of deciding otherwise? > > Crikey. Well, nobody, of course, and I'm not assuming that position. I > was responding to and not initiating a thread. However: > > > Please use an appropriate human language for a particular mailing list. 0100111001110101011101000111001100100001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:23:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2549816A4CF for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:23:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from teemfws4.spt.com (teemfws4.spt.com [199.103.143.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A90943D4C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: AB5C69E2-839A-43D8-B8E8-F319CCC10BD8 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:21:50 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535F9@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB 2.0 wireless mouse Thread-Index: AcUwnlkegcYotHQYS7Sc1pbNkLFElg== From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 18:21:51.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[59803E70:01C5309E] X-WSS-ID: 6E5DDAB72OO1189964-04-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:23:31 -0000 Hello all! Can anyone shed some light on why FreeBSD 5.3-release would identify my USB 2.0 wireless mouse as a wireless keyboard and how I might begin to solve this problem=3F When I plug it in I get: Ukbd0: wireless inc tw wireless usb device, rev 1.10/10.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 Kbd1 at ukbd0 Uhid0: wireless inc tw product 0x3801, rev. 1.10/10.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 When I plug this in it completely disables my keyboard and I am unable to type. Thought=3F Suggestions=3F Jon Bomgardner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained= = herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = information that is confidential or legally protected. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:26:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5A316A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C497643D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so628154wri for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:26:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:content-type:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=lrEEV+hZ5OSoB4KWZFOqEQlHm/l9uMOA/uBx+6zpoqAITMl3u6mfyWPyGG4gk5gS8beQZtE96VCwkJCEXqyeOzNSaqMZuboY1gYcBt9BT0SUceF1gQqTZXgWebUD/4m0V2CShUW2AJ4b8M4QoF9TChvQcdr4eqOaOmy2+mZu07Y= Received: by 10.54.101.18 with SMTP id y18mr377085wrb; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.160.248]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 45sm597315wri.2005.03.24.10.26.36; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:26:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:56:24 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C530CD.154883F0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcUwnvtx0nmVWQXKSbmSmE7pfPe5BQ== Message-ID: <4243065e.4f967d51.4c7a.ffffb132@mx.gmail.com> Subject: SQL glitches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:26:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C530CD.154883F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Folks, I am running a 5.3-R-p5 system. I have just installed mysql41-server from the ports collection. But when I try to start the mysqld daemon I get this error: zurich# /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -u mysql 050324 9:58:07 InnoDB: Database was not shut down normally! InnoDB: Starting crash recovery. InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files... InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages from the doublewrite InnoDB: buffer... 050324 9:58:07 InnoDB: Starting log scan based on checkpoint at InnoDB: log sequence number 0 36808. InnoDB: Doing recovery: scanned up to log sequence number 0 43634 050324 9:58:07 InnoDB: Starting an apply batch of log records to the database... InnoDB: Progress in percents: 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 InnoDB: Apply batch completed 050324 9:58:08 InnoDB: Flushing modified pages from the buffer pool... 050324 9:58:08 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43634 050324 9:58:08 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist Anyone can help me out in solving this? Best regards, S. 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with ESMTP id j2OITeDa023201; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2OITeW0023200; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:29:39 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: wizlayer Message-ID: <20050324182939.GA22898@thought.org> References: <20050324083132.GA19553@thought.org> <200503240659.56194.wizlayer@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503240659.56194.wizlayer@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:29:32 -0000 On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:59:55AM -0500, wizlayer wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2005 03:31 am, Gary Kline wrote: > > People, > > > > Partitioning ad0s2 is fine. But I get a mount error in > > the newfs section. Specifically: > > > > "Error mounting /mntg/dev/ad0s2e on /mnt/usr : Invalid > > argument" > > > > Anybody know what's causing this and how to get past this? > > > > thanks, > > > > gary > > Hey, Gary... > > I read your last thread regarding this, and I'm curious... What's > the output when you type "fdisk ad0" at the prompt? > Can you be more specific? At which prompt? I create the ad0s2 slice below the NTFS slice, then procede to the next menu to the Disklabel editor. There I create reasonable partitions for /, SWAP, /tmp, /var, /home, and /usr. /usr is ballpark 130GB. After I select "All" from the menu below, and from the last sysinstall selection, install/newfs/<>, the script errors. So...(???) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:30:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2016A4CF for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B424043D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A24F17B3D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CCB17B48 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3FF11486 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75749-03 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6DC411477; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:30:40 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050324183040.GC73662@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535F9@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535F9@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:30:47 -0000 What is the mouse you're using? Was this part of a wireless desktop (keyboard and mouse)? Lou On 03/24/05 12:21 PM, Bomgardner,Jon sat at the `puter and typed: > Hello all! >=20 > Can anyone shed some light on why FreeBSD 5.3-release would identify my > USB 2.0 wireless mouse as a wireless keyboard and how I might begin to > solve this problem? When I plug it in I get: >=20 > Ukbd0: wireless inc tw wireless usb device, rev 1.10/10.01, addr 2, > iclass 3/1 > Kbd1 at ukbd0 > Uhid0: wireless inc tw product 0x3801, rev. 1.10/10.01, addr 2, iclass > 3/1 >=20 > When I plug this in it completely disables my keyboard and I am unable > to type. >=20 > Thought? Suggestions? >=20 > Jon Bomgardner >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D > This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contain= ed herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain= information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the = intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, co= pying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is STRICTLY= PROHIBITED. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:39:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B9416A4CE; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coresikhism.net (c-67-161-59-235.client.comcast.net [67.161.59.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6451143D31; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aman@chamkila.org) Received: from [192.168.96.214] ([69.36.228.194]) by coresikhism.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2OIcTHg004260; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:38:51 -0800 Message-ID: <4243093D.40106@chamkila.org> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:38:53 -0800 From: Amandeep User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20050119103214.A27409@pooker.samsco.org> <37799.69.36.228.194.1109286815.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <421E604F.3080305@samsco.org> <34148.69.36.228.194.1110235564.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <44497.69.36.228.194.1110474073.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <32883.69.36.228.194.1110831839.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <20050314202905.GT91771@hub.freebsd.org> <34997.69.36.228.194.1110832499.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <20050314203715.GW91771@hub.freebsd.org> <56241.69.36.228.194.1110931336.squirrel@69.36.228.194> <42377D8A.1020905@rojer.pp.ru> <4241F2C0.4000604@chamkila.org> <4241FE3C.9070800@chamkila.org> <20050323212716.F437@eleanor.us1.wmi.uvac.net> In-Reply-To: <20050323212716.F437@eleanor.us1.wmi.uvac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq SCSI RAID Controllers compatible?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:41 -0000 Hi all, What Compaq SCSI Raid controllers run solid on FreeBSD 5.X.. Thanks in advance A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:40:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0676D16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:40:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from teemfws4.spt.com (teemfws4.spt.com [199.103.143.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F247A43D4C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: AB5C69E2-839A-43D8-B8E8-F319CCC10BD8 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:36:53 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535FA@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB 2.0 wireless mouse Thread-Index: AcUwn8atF0fxuVbQQfOerj+KHvQcjAAABwaA From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 18:36:53.0961 (UTC) FILETIME=[7370F390:01C530A0] X-WSS-ID: 6E5DD74E2OO1193606-07-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:40:00 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:FreeBSD@keyslapper.net]=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:31 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse >=20 >=20 > What is the mouse you're using=3F Was this part of a wireless desktop > (keyboard and mouse)=3F >=20 It's a Targus model PAWM004 optical wireless mouse and it is not part of a desktop set. I should also mention that I've recompiled the kernel to add USB 2.0 support (ehci driver) and am relatively new to FreeBSD. I've managed to get most glitches out except this one and my sound card (I'm using a laptop and things are kinda sketchy). Thanks, Jon Bomgardner > Lou > On 03/24/05 12:21 PM, Bomgardner,Jon sat at the `puter and typed: > > Hello all! > >=20 > > Can anyone shed some light on why FreeBSD 5.3-release would=20 > identify my > > USB 2.0 wireless mouse as a wireless keyboard and how I=20 > might begin to > > solve this problem=3F When I plug it in I get: > >=20 > > Ukbd0: wireless inc tw wireless usb device, rev 1.10/10.01, addr 2, > > iclass 3/1 > > Kbd1 at ukbd0 > > Uhid0: wireless inc tw product 0x3801, rev. 1.10/10.01,=20 > addr 2, iclass > > 3/1 > >=20 > > When I plug this in it completely disables my keyboard and=20 > I am unable > > to type. > >=20 > > Thought=3F Suggestions=3F > >=20 > > Jon Bomgardner > >=20 > >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained= = herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the = intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, = copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is = STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error, = please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete th= e= original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments = hereto or links herein, from your system. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D The St. Paul Travelers e-mail system made this annotation on 03/24/05, = 13:39:46. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:44:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47CD16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com [81.94.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5A543D2F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:44:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfalizer@gmail.com) Received: by 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7B2696104; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:49 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions list Message-ID: <20050324184749.GA889@obygden> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions list References: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> <16961.63535.308365.99806@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16961.63535.308365.99806@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:44:07 -0000 On Ons, Mar 23, 2005 at 11:59:35pm +0100, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > I'm trying to get FreeBSD to "see" my iPod filesystem. I stumbled across > this howto, http://www.osxhax.com/archives/000009.html, that outlines > the procedure when using firewire. > > Unfortunately, my board doesn't support fireware, and so I have to use > USB. The iPod is detected at boot, as can be seen in the log: > > > * This section takes a long time to complete * > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command > * End of section * > GEOM: new disk da0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 1 (ISA IRQ 1) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 3 (ISA IRQ 3) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 4 (ISA IRQ 4) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 6 (ISA IRQ 6) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 7 (ISA IRQ 7) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 8 (ISA IRQ 8) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 9 (ISA IRQ 9) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 13 (ISA IRQ 13) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 14 (ISA IRQ 14) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 15 (ISA IRQ 15) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 16 (PCI IRQ 16) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 18 (PCI IRQ 18) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 21 (PCI IRQ 21) to cluster 0 > ioapic0: routing intpin 22 (PCI IRQ 22) to cluster 0 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: Serial Number JQ5040KTPS9 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) > > The marked section takes several minutes to complete. > > I thought I'd try mounting da0 as is done in the tutorial, the fstab > entry being, > > /dev/da0 /ipod msdos rw,noauto 0 0 > > , but it fails with the error message "msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid > argument." I get no other da0* /dev entries. The boot message for the > USB port to which I attached the iPod (which is a USB 2.0 port) might > also be helpful, so I'll include it: > > usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting > usb1: on ohci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > > does the last line mean FreeBSD isn't correctly detecting USB 2.0 on the > port? > > I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, using a Epox nForce2 motherboard. > > Help appreciated as always. I added the EHCI driver, and now my ports are correctly being identified as USB 2.0 . Relevant (as far as I could tell) boot messages follow: ohci0: mem 0xe4001000-0xe4001fff irq 22 at device 2.0 on pci0 ohci0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xe4001000 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 umass0: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 3 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 ohci1: mem 0xe4004000-0xe4004fff irq 21 at device 2.1 on pci0 ohci1: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xe4004000 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: mem 0xe4005000-0xe40050ff irq 20 at device 2.2 on pci0 ehci0: Reserved 0x100 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xe4005000 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 umass1: Apple iPod, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 umass1:1:1:-1: Attached to scbus1 pcib1: at device 8.0 on pci0 pcib1: secondary bus 1 pcib1: subordinate bus 1 pcib1: I/O decode 0xd000-0xdfff pcib1: memory decode 0xe2000000-0xe3ffffff pcib1: prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff GEOM: new disk ad0 [0] f:80 typ:165 s(CHS):0/0/17 e(CHS):1023/133/36 s:16 l:78164624 [1] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [2] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 [3] f:00 typ:0 s(CHS):0/0/0 e(CHS):0/0/0 s:0 l:0 umass0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected umass0: detached (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status 0x39 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): error 5 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retries Exhausted (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Request completed with CAM_REQ_CMP_ERR (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): Retrying Command GEOM: new disk da0 da0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: Serial Number JQ5040KTPS9 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) I still have the same problem though; only da0 shows up in /dev , and it still can't be mounted. "camcontrol devlist" now lists my iPod as, at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da0) , but when I try to eject it with "camcontrol eject 1:0:0", I get the error message "camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 1:0:0". Perhaps I've just misunderstood what camcontrol eject expects. I think I'm gonna try upgrading to the latest version of the EHCI driver from CVS. Any other suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:50:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A7816A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:50:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se (pernis.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A334D43D1D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:50:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 413A4C1; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:46 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s303; Thu, 24 Mar 05 19:50:42 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0558512D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:42 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id F145538012; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AC35C002 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:41 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: MAC module problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:50:48 -0000 I'v tried to load a few MAC modules and try that security system. This oddity appeared in dmesg: "mac_policy_modevent: can't load mac_lomac policy after booting module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (mac_lomac, 0xc056f4dc, 0xc1c285c0) error 16" Can someone here tell me what that means? Is there maybe a security focused list that are more appropriate for questions like this? /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:51:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCAA16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FB043D3F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2OIpUKa023325; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2OIpT9B023324; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:29 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ean Kingston Message-ID: <20050324185129.GB22898@thought.org> References: <20050324083132.GA19553@thought.org> <4045.216.220.59.169.1111679860.squirrel@216.220.59.169> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4045.216.220.59.169.1111679860.squirrel@216.220.59.169> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mount error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:22 -0000 On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:57:40AM -0500, Ean Kingston wrote: > > > > > People, > > > > Partitioning ad0s2 is fine. But I get a mount error in > > the newfs section. Specifically: > > > > "Error mounting /mntg/dev/ad0s2e on /mnt/usr : Invalid argument" > > Gary, are you mounting it by hand? I wouldn't expect to see either the > '/mntg' or the '/mnt' parts. ^^^^ typo:: should be /mnt. The error from the "3D" sysinstall script was: "Error mounting /mnt/dev/ad0s2e on /mnt/usr : Invalid argument" By-hand? no. Entirely by sysinstall. Menu-driven script. > > > Anybody know what's causing this and how to get past this? > > double check to make sure your /etc/fstab is configured correctly. Make > sure that the device (/dev/*) and the mount point (*/usr) actually exist > before the filesystem gets mounted. > Surprising, the OS does boot. /bin must be there because typing mount /usr tells me that /usr has a bad superblock. Maybe I can create the /usr mountpoint. If I reboot from CD everything is lost. (I didn't check if /stand got' created. FWIW, the strange this is: If I create a tiny /usr of, say, 5GB, vrything is happy. Can I use /stand/sysinstall from an already-created system to upside partitions? The real question is: what is causing the original "Error mounting" error?! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:51:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AC616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F8643D4C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roeland.hemsteede@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so597526rng for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JY0VJRHNmK2JllhkLNDITN8c1ORUdY0mvdQEP/AcG6iaDoA1bowg0rzgvgM1GtBgHSHK+ZJhSkqWXQaxfIwL9ksM6r/gD8DHzUrBdSNLHNFnfro2a2hdn6ki08q1JK+5Nc5kvbR8sz5t30uY4b07DTycrUiO2cOTwmPS31dQtKM= Received: by 10.38.81.48 with SMTP id e48mr1820707rnb; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.35? ([195.240.197.240]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k22sm649587rnb.2005.03.24.10.51.56; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:51:54 +0100 From: Roeland Hemsteede User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Autostart files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:51:58 -0000 Hello, I recently installed the ftp port "wu-ftpd" from /usr/ports/ftp/wu-ftpd. However I cant find out how to start this, I want to add this to the autostart by adding a line to my rc.conf but am unsure what line to add. I tried wu-ftpd_enable="yes" but this didnt work, can someone help me out and tell me what line to add? Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:52:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A3F16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:52:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA843D5D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 519041C00093 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:52:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 31BF21C000BD for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:52:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050324185231204.31BF21C000BD@mwinf1109.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:52:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1189028753.20050324195230@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8afbbcc6befa11c16046444b387a0f85@HiWAAY.net> References: <772682460.20050322155538@wanadoo.fr> <1198056812.20050324033201@wanadoo.fr> <8afbbcc6befa11c16046444b387a0f85@HiWAAY.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:52:33 -0000 David Kelly writes: > Whether or not Anthony understood it or not, can't say he was not > warned that something was amiss. Anthony didn't need a warning, since he knew that something was amiss from the beginning ... else he'd have no reason to ask questions about it. What Anthony didn't and still doesn't know is whether or not it's an OS bug. Normally this sort of thing is likely to be an OS bug; however, if the messages occur only for one of two identical drives (as they appear to be at the moment), this tends to tip the balance in favor of a possible hardware problem on one drive. It's possible that a driver might have an unusual bug that causes it to treat one drive differently from another or creates unusual situations in which only one drive is affected, but such bugs are rare. Anthony is thus thinking of buying another identical drive and installing it to see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, the balance will tip back strongly in favor of an OS bug. The drive passes all the self-tests, though, so nothing is certain. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:53:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0757216A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B588243D1D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AEB071C00044 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 910BE1C000BC for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050324185325594.910BE1C000BC@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:25 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1074993623.20050324195325@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050324023417.N9400@makeworld.com> References: <772682460.20050322155538@wanadoo.fr> <1198056812.20050324033201@wanadoo.fr> <20050324023417.N9400@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:27 -0000 Chris writes: > Your legacy hardware finally gave up the ghost... Uh, no. The production server is about 90 days old, and state of the art. The drives are brand new. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:53:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F46616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D233F43D58 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so906746wra for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:x-mailer:content-type:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=sv3qRluq/g27g3ikobYfgyG3qTk013q5+miSXcjf/48oGP9i2duzXDUOQlNoyBbWpchj2S5cB7EmKMZY1oP4PhE85XEq8nGDWWBW4ity64jVX3TEoPhhK7bXZtnFtF53x7HYhPDeRu46EJ8uKLt/hM32eIG7g8tr1r1CNzDEfO4= Received: by 10.54.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr394083wrb; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from firebox ([59.93.161.109]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d74sm624444wra.2005.03.24.10.53.39; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:53:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:23:29 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C530D0.DDB821D0" Thread-Index: AcUworm+C18kBkCiQ32BgwsHR8OqbQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <42430cb5.5fc62c32.518c.ffffb67c@mx.gmail.com> Subject: Re: SQL Glitches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C530D0.DDB821D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bad of me :-( I should have RTFM. I have run mysql_install_db but now I get zurich# /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -u mysql 050324 10:57:19 InnoDB: Database was not shut down normally! InnoDB: Starting crash recovery. InnoDB: Reading tablespace information from the .ibd files... InnoDB: Restoring possible half-written data pages from the doublewrite InnoDB: buffer... 050324 10:57:19 InnoDB: Starting log scan based on checkpoint at InnoDB: log sequence number 0 43634. InnoDB: Doing recovery: scanned up to log sequence number 0 43634 050324 10:57:19 InnoDB: Flushing modified pages from the buffer pool... 050324 10:57:19 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43634 050324 10:57:19 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13) 050324 10:57:19 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: Can't find file: './mysql/host.frm' (errno: 13) Whats next? 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D4970388DC7 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:53:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:53:52 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4243065e.4f967d51.4c7a.ffffb132@mx.gmail.com> References: <4243065e.4f967d51.4c7a.ffffb132@mx.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: SQL glitches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:53:53 -0000 --On Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:56:24 PM +0530 Subhro wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I am running a 5.3-R-p5 system. I have just installed mysql41-server from > the ports collection. But when I try to start the mysqld daemon I get this > error: > Since you *just* installed it, I would make deinstall distclean and start over. The error you're getting says that the base db is missing tables. That *should* be installed when you run make install, and it obviously failed. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:55:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3C416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:55:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9695B43D3F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:55:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA7721C000B3 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:55:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AEE6B1C000B0 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:55:19 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050324185519716.AEE6B1C000B0@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:55:13 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <154939230.20050324195513@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42426471.9040007@northglobe.com> References: <1735169762.20050324050924@wanadoo.fr> <42426471.9040007@northglobe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:55:21 -0000 Nicholas Basila writes: > You can back up to tape and restore in single user mode. If /var and > /tmp aren't too big, you could boot into single user mode, > mount /usr > mount -r /var (just to be safe) > mount -r /tmp > and create tar balls or even use dump to file (use the device in /dev as > source, of course) with /var and /tmp unmounted. > Then, reboot into single user mode with the new disk, set up the disk > the way you want it with fdisk and bsdlabel, and then untar or restore > from dump. Can I boot from the FreeBSD boot CD and avoid mounting anything on any of the hard drives at all? (That's not a problem in this case, since the root is on a different drive, but if I ever had to replace the drive containing the root I'm just wondering how to go about it.) -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 18:57:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E60616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:57:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC49043D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DE13F1C00045 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:57:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C302B1C00095 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:57:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050324185730799.C302B1C00095@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:57:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1473492382.20050324195730@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1735169762.20050324050924@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:57:32 -0000 Gary Smithe writes: > May not be the best answer, but if the drive's data is still intact > (i.e. readable) and the replacement will be identical, maybe try DD or > similar from a bootable "rescue" cd, like freesbie? If not that, then > you may be able to copy the data between the 2 drives using same said > bootable CD after creating the partitions. Is it possible to dd the entire contents of one drive into a single file on another drive (assuming the latter drive is big enough)? If so, I could save time by just copying the drive wholesale to a huge file on another drive, replacing it, then copying everything back. Not sure if "whole drive" would include content outside the FS, though (?). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:05:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA35316A4CF for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:05:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (camomile.cloud9.net [168.100.1.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4642B43D5F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:05:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from camomile.cloud9.net (localhost.cloud9.net [127.0.0.1]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 94E67562A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by camomile.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C26B561A for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3437114B4 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75749-10 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B7C3811486; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:05:52 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050324190552.GD73662@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535FA@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535FA@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:05:59 -0000 On 03/24/05 12:36 PM, Bomgardner,Jon sat at the `puter and typed: >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:FreeBSD@keyslapper.net]=20 > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:31 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse > >=20 > >=20 > > What is the mouse you're using? Was this part of a wireless desktop > > (keyboard and mouse)? > >=20 >=20 > It's a Targus model PAWM004 optical wireless mouse and it is not part of > a desktop set. I should also mention that I've recompiled the kernel to > add USB 2.0 support (ehci driver) and am relatively new to FreeBSD. I've > managed to get most glitches out except this one and my sound card (I'm > using a laptop and things are kinda sketchy). >=20 > Thanks, > Jon Bomgardner Well, I'm jealous that you've got USB 2.0 compiled without getting a kernel panic (mine went awol when I added ehci). Unfortunately I don't know if I can be much help. At least not directly. Perhaps these URLs will get you closer to the mark: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-February/msg05000.html http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread401-1.html Good luck. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:08:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB93416A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:08:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651A143D31 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:08:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050324190831.FQCX7277.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:08:31 -0500 From: To: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1473492382.20050324195730@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:08:33 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony Atkielski Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:58 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? Gary Smithe writes: > May not be the best answer, but if the drive's data is still intact > (i.e. readable) and the replacement will be identical, maybe try DD or > similar from a bootable "rescue" cd, like freesbie? If not that, then > you may be able to copy the data between the 2 drives using same said > bootable CD after creating the partitions. Is it possible to dd the entire contents of one drive into a single file on another drive (assuming the latter drive is big enough)? If so, I could save time by just copying the drive wholesale to a huge file on another drive, replacing it, then copying everything back. Not sure if "whole drive" would include content outside the FS, though (?). -- Anthony _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:11:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D206316A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:11:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A5743D53 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:11:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2OJBKJ07841; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503241911.j2OJBKJ07841@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:11:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1473492382.20050324195730@wanadoo.fr> from "Anthony Atkielski" at Mar 24, 2005 07:57:30 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:11:22 -0000 > > Gary Smithe writes: > > > May not be the best answer, but if the drive's data is still intact > > (i.e. readable) and the replacement will be identical, maybe try DD or > > similar from a bootable "rescue" cd, like freesbie? If not that, then > > you may be able to copy the data between the 2 drives using same said > > bootable CD after creating the partitions. > > Is it possible to dd the entire contents of one drive into a single file > on another drive (assuming the latter drive is big enough)? If so, I > could save time by just copying the drive wholesale to a huge file on > another drive, replacing it, then copying everything back. Not sure if > "whole drive" would include content outside the FS, though (?). Whatever piece you dd will be copied whole including boot sector and slice/partition table if you dd a slice or a partition instead of just the files. So, yes you could do it, but... The problem with dd-ing a partition or slice is that when you put it back, what was on the old drive would then overwrite the new including the slice and partition tables and boot sector, etc. It is likely that the new/rebuilt disk would be slightly different than the old so you really want to slice/partition/newfs it from scratch. I would recommend using dump(8) to copy each of the filesystems to a file. Then create new slices & partitions, newfs them and restore(8) the contents back. It is safer and just as efficient. ////jerry > > -- > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:34:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50116A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8831A43D53 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2OJYSVA007447; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:28 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Bob Johnson In-Reply-To: <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:28 +0000 Message-Id: <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:42 -0000 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:49 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > > > > There is no call to splinter into many languages. *sigh* The starting point for this was a post which seemed to me to be doing just that. If you interpret that posting differently, and you haven't said whether you do, then that's our point of difference. Perhaps I misread the OP, in which case there's nothing to discuss and everything's fine and dandy. > This list has for at > least the past eight years been multilingual. Kind of... it's an English language list to which posts are sometimes made in other languages. When that happens, generally one of the poster's fellow nationals gently reminds them that it's an English language list, and sometimes translates their questions so others can try to help. Sometimes not. It's informal, as we both know. But to call it multilingual is at best an exaggeration. > It is your call to make > it English-only that is new. I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying. It's starting to feel mildly bizarre. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:35:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C8316A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CD843D41 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A9913374A; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19924-01-61; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.236] (unknown [81.168.120.141]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BBA133A6E; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:26 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4243172A.30806@thingy.apana.org.au> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:38:18 +0000 From: David Gerard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org References: <42403141.2090006@thingy.apana.org.au> In-Reply-To: <42403141.2090006@thingy.apana.org.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk cc: quiet000001@livejournal.com cc: arkady@arkady.org.uk Subject: Re: Vale Cameron Grant (cg@freebsd.org), 8 July 1976 - 20 March 2005 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:35:38 -0000 Further on the below: Cameron's funeral is Friday 8th April, 2pm, at Garston Crematorium in Hertfordshire. Kris would like as many people who knew Cameron along as possible. If you think you can make it, email arkady@arkady.org.uk to RSVP, for directions, etc. The chapel fits 35-40, but if you want to come there will almost certainly be room for you. Just RSVP :-) The cause of death turned out to be pulmonary thrombosis - the sort of thing that could happen to anyone, but Cam was at higher risk because of his illnesses. In good news, Kris is OK to stay in the UK :-) But speaking for myself, I suspect she could do with some of your overpaid geek bucks to help in the short term, with living expenses and the funeral! See http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html for full details. And I didn't say on the message below, but please do forward this to anywhere in the FreeBSD community you think people should know! - d. David Gerard wrote: > For those who haven't heard, FreeBSD committer Cameron Grant > died suddenly on Sunday morning. > > Cameron was well known for his keen mind and personality, but > his body didn't work so well. The cause of death has yet to > be established, but he spent many years suffering from > neurological diseases that left him living on machines. > > There's a page up at http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html which gives > more details and notes of suitable charities to donate to > rather than send flowers, etc. > > Note that the first listed charity is his widow, Kris [though > she's on that list only at the insistence of others] - she > was working as Cameron's carer, and now that's stopped she has > no income for the moment, maybe no house and maybe no way to > stay in the UK. So a bit of assistance from these lists full of > overpaid geeks would probably be quite helpful right now! > > I only knew Cam in passing via others, but thought someone > should tell the FreeBSD community. > > (cc'd to Kris) > > > - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:45:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC9B16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:45:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25FB43D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 1024644 for multiple; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:45:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0a6fca83c7cfde1b48a635629351080e@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:45:09 -0500 To: Peter Risdon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed cc: Bob Johnson cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:45:21 -0000 On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote: > I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying. > It's > starting to feel mildly bizarre. You say this as if it is the first time, being a system admin, you have had this feeling... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:47:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B9F16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637FF43D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2OJlTpr007488; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:29 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Bart Silverstrim In-Reply-To: <0a6fca83c7cfde1b48a635629351080e@chrononomicon.com> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <0a6fca83c7cfde1b48a635629351080e@chrononomicon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:29 +0000 Message-Id: <1111693649.756.137.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Bob Johnson cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:47:50 -0000 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 14:45 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > On Mar 24, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Peter Risdon wrote: > > > I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying. > > It's > > starting to feel mildly bizarre. > > You say this as if it is the first time, being a system admin, you have > had this feeling... > > You're right, it's not. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 19:50:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4FF16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91E243D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEYLH-0001Ii-7Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:50:07 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:50:07 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:50:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAC module problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:50:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-24, Andreas Davour scribbled these curious markings: > I'v tried to load a few MAC modules and try that security system. This > oddity appeared in dmesg: > > "mac_policy_modevent: can't load mac_lomac policy after booting > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (mac_lomac, 0xc056f4dc, 0xc1c285c0) error > 16" It means exactly what it says. You can't load mac_lomac after having booted the system. You can see from mac_lomac(4) that you can put it in your kernel configuration, and that you load it from loader.conf. If you don't want to rebuild your kernel, you can use the module, if you have it. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQxeyk/lo7zvzJioRAsp4AJ45JnkDBFBam4gVDG2k9hLH4liikQCcDxBc e+k/HT8gj6Reblo7591oCE4= =FFOc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:01:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898FD16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:01:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3096343D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEYUw-0002S3-Qx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:00:10 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:00:06 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:00:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Autostart files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:01:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-24, Roeland Hemsteede scribbled these curious markings: > I recently installed the ftp port "wu-ftpd" from /usr/ports/ftp/wu-ftpd. > However I cant find out how to start this, I want to add this to the > autostart by adding a line to my rc.conf but am unsure what line to add. > I tried wu-ftpd_enable="yes" but this didnt work, can someone help me > out and tell me what line to add? You need to create your own startup script in order to make wu-ftpd work. I suggest following an example from another port. And, although normally I wouldn't do this, I can't send this reply in good conscience without warning you about wu-ftpd's horrid security record. People have even coined a phrase about Wu-FTPd's security record: "Providing remote root since at least 1994." ProFTPD isn't much better, either. I strongly recommend you either use the FTP daemon that ships with FreeBSD or install something with a better record, like PureFTPD. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQxpmk/lo7zvzJioRAoyoAJ0Q2+GzTQ9u0JsXxzdP6fxk7GXCTQCfW7zi L51drHIqCIitRqJmajvZpU4= =npUj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:05:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3426016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:05:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CF343D48 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:05:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pathiaki@pathiaki.com) Received: from mxip14.cluster1.charter.net (mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.144])j2OK58tK011377 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:05:08 -0500 Received: from cpe-68-184-36-187.ma.charter.com (HELO pc4.atlantisservices.com) (68.184.36.187) by mxip14.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2005 15:05:07 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,119,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="66187698:sNHT14520448" From: "Paul J. Pathiakis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bob@a1poweruser.com Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:05:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503241505.07562.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:05:11 -0000 Hi, In the worse case scenario, you want to move a system drive. (If it's not a system drive, you get less steps.) This is for the NOVICE, I therefore suggest the sysinstall gui to do the lifting: (No, I use bsdlabel, fdisk, etc, but this is more simplistic and generates ease-of-use methodology.) 1) connect the drive to the system. (NOTE: if you are trying to do a system disk and you aren't familiar with bsdlabel, fdisk, etc., connect a single disk to the machine and boot the distro CD.) 2) use sysinstall to partition the drive correctly. (Tools are fdisk and bsdlabel.) Make sure you write an MBR and/or boot blocks to the drive. When creating the partitions, typically, make them look similar to the original. /, /usr, /var. (NOTE: if you have another drive connected to the system, sysinstall will try to create d: as the first partition on the new drive when you want it to be a: . That's why I suggest keeping only the new drive connected for now. Getting real familiar with bsdlabel and fdisk can get you around this as you mature as a system administrator.) 3) Write all the changes out to the drive from the partition editor. It will label the drive partitions and then newfs. (It will prompt you with: Are you sure you want to do this now? ) 4) At this point, you can shutdown and connect the system drive and bring up the system into single user mode on the initial drive. Create mount points like: /root2, /var2, /usr2 and mount the NEW drives partitions to them. Do a: mount -a to make sure all partitons on the system drive are mounted. 5) Now, use dump and restore to move everything over. This will, typically, be much faster than dd on a non-full drive. DD has to read everything. This method just moves the info on the disk. for example: cd /root2; dump 0af - / | restore xf - .... .... change permissions on . ? (or something like it) y cd /var2; dump 0af - /var | restore xf - etc. If you just want a simple method of backing up partitions to a file: (I use the mount points here for simplicity, /home could be replaced by /dev/ad0s1f or such.) cd ; dump 0af - /home | gzip > home.dump.gz dump 0af - /usr | gzip > usr.dump.gz without gzip... dump 0af home.dump /home later to restore, cd < new location > gunzip < //home.dump.gz | restore xf - without gzip.... restore xf //home.dump I tried to make this simple. P. On Thursday 24 March 2005 14:08, bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:58 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? > > Gary Smithe writes: > > May not be the best answer, but if the drive's data is still > > intact > > > (i.e. readable) and the replacement will be identical, maybe try > > DD or > > > similar from a bootable "rescue" cd, like freesbie? If not that, > > then > > > you may be able to copy the data between the 2 drives using same > > said > > > bootable CD after creating the partitions. > > Is it possible to dd the entire contents of one drive into a single > file > on another drive (assuming the latter drive is big enough)? If so, > I > could save time by just copying the drive wholesale to a huge file > on > another drive, replacing it, then copying everything back. Not sure > if > "whole drive" would include content outside the FS, though (?). > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:08:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB0E16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:08:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F5E43D5C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:08:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pathiaki@pathiaki.com) Received: from mxip15.cluster1.charter.net (mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.145])j2OK8qG7011524 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:08:52 -0500 Received: from cpe-68-184-36-187.ma.charter.com (HELO pc4.atlantisservices.com) (68.184.36.187) by mxip15.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2005 15:08:53 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,119,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="845541732:sNHT14001560" From: "Paul J. Pathiakis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:08:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1735169762.20050324050924@wanadoo.fr> <1473492382.20050324195730@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1473492382.20050324195730@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503241508.51834.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> cc: Anthony Atkielski Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:08:54 -0000 On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:57, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Gary Smithe writes: > > May not be the best answer, but if the drive's data is still intact > > (i.e. readable) and the replacement will be identical, maybe try DD > > or similar from a bootable "rescue" cd, like freesbie? If not > > that, then you may be able to copy the data between the 2 drives > > using same said bootable CD after creating the partitions. > > Is it possible to dd the entire contents of one drive into a single > file on another drive (assuming the latter drive is big enough)? If > so, I could save time by just copying the drive wholesale to a huge > file on another drive, replacing it, then copying everything back. > Not sure if "whole drive" would include content outside the FS, > though (?). Also, just an fyi.... Under just about any circumstances, mirror the root drive with either hardware (if your motherboard supports it) or (THANK GOD FOR POUL AND PAWEL) use geom_mirror. It will save you an incredible amount of headaches if you can't do fdisk and bsdlabel confidently. If configured correctly, just pull the bad drive, install another, tell it to sync up. All done. In a hot swap box, no down time needed. P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:21:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from Tdmmsws3.travelers.com (tdmmsws3.travelers.com [204.89.226.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F96F43D53 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: 1CEB1DF0-49E1-44A0-9005-1B50FF7BB36F X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:21:40 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B25AC6B@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB 2.0 wireless mouse Thread-Index: AcUwpTAYfVssS34ASL+Oz1kiUbE0QAAAVwHw From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 20:21:41.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[171D1880:01C530AF] X-WSS-ID: 6E5DFEDD05O895083-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:21:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:FreeBSD@keyslapper.net]=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:06 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse >=20 >=20 > On 03/24/05 12:36 PM, Bomgardner,Jon sat at the `puter and typed: > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Louis LeBlanc [mailto:FreeBSD@keyslapper.net]=20 > > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 12:31 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > What is the mouse you're using=3F Was this part of a=20 > wireless desktop > > > (keyboard and mouse)=3F > > >=20 > >=20 > > It's a Targus model PAWM004 optical wireless mouse and it=20 > is not part of > > a desktop set. I should also mention that I've recompiled=20 > the kernel to > > add USB 2.0 support (ehci driver) and am relatively new to=20 > FreeBSD. I've > > managed to get most glitches out except this one and my=20 > sound card (I'm > > using a laptop and things are kinda sketchy). > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Jon Bomgardner >=20 > Well, I'm jealous that you've got USB 2.0 compiled without getting a > kernel panic (mine went awol when I added ehci). >=20 > Unfortunately I don't know if I can be much help. At least not > directly. Perhaps these URLs will get you closer to the mark: >=20 > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-February/msg0 >5000.html >http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread401-1.html > >Good luck. > >Lou OK... I checked these out but they are for Xorg and the problem I'm having is in the console. Unfortunately, neither of these worked.=20 Any other ideas or leads to where I can find the information I need=3F Thanks, Jon Bomgardner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained= = herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the = intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, = copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is = STRICTLY PROHIBITED. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:22:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9C16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:22:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf32.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf32.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8847243D39 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:22:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pathiaki@pathiaki.com) Received: from mxip05.cluster1.charter.net (mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.135])j2OKMiOA003981 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:22:44 -0500 Received: from cpe-68-184-36-187.ma.charter.com (HELO pc4.atlantisservices.com) (68.184.36.187) by mxip05.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2005 15:22:44 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,119,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="728747508:sNHT13779612" From: "Paul J. Pathiakis" To: freebsd-questions list Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:22:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> <16961.63535.308365.99806@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20050324184749.GA889@obygden> In-Reply-To: <20050324184749.GA889@obygden> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503241522.43300.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> Subject: Re: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:22:46 -0000 On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:47, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > da0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: Serial Number JQ5040KTPS9 > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) > > I still have the same problem though; only da0 shows up in > /dev , and it still can't be mounted. "camcontrol devlist" now lists > my iPod as, > btw, have you done a simple: ls -sald /dev/da0* ? I'm working on this right now, and I found the 'pod at /dev/da0s2 However, the pod is having issues. If I boot the pod from the machine when down, it's recognized and everything is fine. However, if I try to connect after I'm up, I get the umass device but not the da0 device. Just weird. P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:34:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B0F16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:34:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7143D58 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:31:36 -0600 Message-ID: <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:34:43 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Nehren References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 20:31:36.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[79FBCE50:01C530B0] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: roeland.hemsteede@gmail.com Subject: Re: Autostart files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:34:46 -0000 Christopher Nehren wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 2005-03-24, Roeland Hemsteede scribbled these >curious markings: > > >>I recently installed the ftp port "wu-ftpd" from /usr/ports/ftp/wu-ftpd. >>However I cant find out how to start this, I want to add this to the >>autostart by adding a line to my rc.conf but am unsure what line to add. >>I tried wu-ftpd_enable="yes" but this didnt work, can someone help me >>out and tell me what line to add? >> >> > >You need to create your own startup script in order to make wu-ftpd >work. I suggest following an example from another port. > > > However, a startup script _could_ be as simple as whatever command you would issue at the CLI to start the program, on a single line, saved as "uniquefilename.sh" and placed under /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. It is also quite possible to instruct cron to start this server via root's crontab: @reboot /usr/local/bin/someprogram -c /home/me/myconfig 2>&1 However, a more complex script allows easy stopping or restarting of the daemon, eliminating the need to look up PID's and/or call kill(1), etc. Kevin Kinsey PS > I can't comment on wu-ftpd's security, but it sure looks like Christopher's warning deserves serious attention, at least up to the point of making further inquiries via BuqTraq, a search engine, etc... >And, although normally I wouldn't do this, I can't send this reply in >good conscience without warning you about wu-ftpd's horrid security >record. People have even coined a phrase about Wu-FTPd's security >record: "Providing remote root since at least 1994." ProFTPD isn't much >better, either. I strongly recommend you either use the FTP daemon that >ships with FreeBSD or install something with a better record, like >PureFTPD. > >Best Regards, >Christopher Nehren > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:46:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E07D16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D143D5F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from enabled.com (localhost.enabled.com [127.0.0.1]) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2OKkNLc037399 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:46:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) From: "Noah" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:46:23 -0800 Message-Id: <20050324204623.M73583@enabled.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: 67.180.57.105 (admin2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: bacula with onstream configuration for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:46:24 -0000 Hi there, can somebody please suggest a configuration for bacula use on a FreeBSD 4.9 machine? anybody got this running well? tips for initial onstream setup are welcome. cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:47:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5245316A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net (esmtp.webtent.net [208.38.145.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F1C143D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 8947CEBDE4 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from esmtp.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (esmtp.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41066-03 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (unknown [209.241.118.235]) with ESMTP id BA5D1EBDFE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:47:32 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Message-Id: <1111697249.6753.151.camel@columbus> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:47:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at webtent.net Subject: new install only starts on boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:47:42 -0000 I am installed the FreeBSD 5.3 port for openldap-sasl-2.2.23, which starts fine on boot, but will not restart. I get the error 'main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1' in the debug.log even if TLS options are not setup. I take a default slapd.conf file and adjust to my domain and it will not restart. Does the SASL all have to be setup in this openldap-sasl port before the server will even start? I have the Cyrus IMAP working with SASL+krb5 now fine. I compared my slapd.conf file to one on another server with the standard openldap port without SASL and looks fine, also checked permissions, etc. How can I troubleshoot this further? There is an krb5 key in the keytab file for the host and ldap service, but again, I don't even have these things enabled in ldap at the moment, just trying to get a successful restart. The only error seen in the logs besides the above is there during boot as well: Mar 23 11:27:12 host slapd[456]: SQL engine 'mysql' not supported Mar 23 11:27:12 host slapd[456]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available However, I have googled this and it seems that it may be harmless and other services using SASL, such as imapd, spit out the same thing. Here is some info from my setup: slap.conf: include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/core.schema loglevel 4196 pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid argsfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.args database bdb suffix "dc=domain,dc=tld" rootdn "cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=tld" rootpw secret directory /var/db/openldap-data index objectClass eq host# ls -la /usr/local/etc/openldap/ total 40 drwxr-xr-x 5 ldap ldap 512 Mar 19 18:44 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root wheel 1536 Mar 24 10:15 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 ldap ldap 512 Mar 24 10:15 certs -rw-r--r-- 1 ldap ldap 8879 Nov 28 16:55 ldap.conf drwxr-xr-x 3 ldap ldap 1024 Mar 19 18:44 schema -rw-r--r-- 1 ldap ldap 314 Mar 24 09:58 slapd.access -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 2976 Mar 24 10:23 slapd.conf host# ls -la /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema total 338 drwxr-xr-x 3 ldap ldap 1024 Mar 19 18:44 . drwxr-xr-x 5 ldap ldap 512 Mar 19 18:44 .. -r--r--r-- 1 ldap ldap 19562 Mar 19 18:44 core.schema host# ls -la /var/run/openldap/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 ldap ldap 512 Mar 24 15:31 . drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 1024 Mar 24 10:21 .. srwxr-xr-x 1 root ldap 0 Mar 24 15:31 ldapi host# ls -la /var/db/openldap-data total 568 drwx------ 2 ldap ldap 512 Mar 23 11:27 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Mar 24 15:21 .. -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 8192 Mar 24 10:01 __db.001 -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 270336 Mar 24 10:01 __db.002 -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 98304 Mar 24 10:01 __db.003 -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 368640 Mar 24 10:01 __db.004 -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 24576 Mar 24 10:01 __db.005 -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 8192 Mar 24 10:01 dn2id.bdb -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 32768 Mar 24 10:01 id2entry.bdb -rw------- 1 ldap ldap 44451 Mar 24 10:01 log.0000000001 -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC3816A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC6B43D2D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D097388CE8 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:59:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:59:14 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2BD49CE7E9C698059A6CEC44@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <007801c5309b$ebe625c0$05dc3818@mdm2205> References: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> <007801c5309b$ebe625c0$05dc3818@mdm2205> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Monitoring critical processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:15 -0000 --On Thursday, March 24, 2005 01:04:28 PM -0500 Jon Krause wrote: > >############### ># ># http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/checkservice/pkg-descr ># ># http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/monitord/pkg-descr ># ># ############## > Thanks, Jon. Monitord was exactly what I was looking for. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 20:59:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221E516A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (raptor.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4013743D58 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:59:10 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Thursday, 24 March 2005, 16:58:19 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:57:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:00:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 20:57:38.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CB779C0:01C530B4] References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050125) Subject: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:59:36 -0000 Hi people I am learning in the use of cvs for sync my src and ports i use this command line and works perfectly #cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src but this line update my source tree with the current version 6.0 but i don't want this version then i do this #cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -rRELENG_5 src and get this error cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied What can i do? How can i obtain the src tree of 5-STABLE and the ports tree via cvs "i can not use cvsup"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:02:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF7016A560 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scorpion.eng.ufl.edu (scorpion.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FB7E43D1D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:02:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob89@eng.ufl.edu) Received: (qmail 2117 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 21:02:02 -0000 Received: from scanner.engnet.ufl.edu (HELO ?128.227.152.221?) (128.227.152.221) by scorpion.eng.ufl.edu with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 21:02:02 -0000 Message-ID: <42432AC9.50702@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:02:01 -0500 From: Bob Johnson Organization: University of Florida User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050316) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Risdon References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> In-Reply-To: <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:02:05 -0000 Peter Risdon wrote: > On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:49 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: >> This list has for at >>least the past eight years been multilingual. > > > Kind of... it's an English language list to which posts are sometimes > made in other languages. When that happens, generally one of the > poster's fellow nationals gently reminds them that it's an English > language list, and sometimes translates their questions so others can > try to help. Sometimes not. It's informal, as we both know. But to call > it multilingual is at best an exaggeration. > This is not historically accurate, at least not in my experience. The attempt to make this an English-only list is a recent phenomenon. Posts in other languages were historically entirely welcome, and the only reason people were sent to language-specific lists was because they were likely to get better results there, not because there was a rule requiring that they use English here. As long as the domain name (freebsd.org) is not country-specific, we should expect visits from new users who don't speak English well or at all, and plan accordingly. Prohibiting them from posting here is not appropriate, unless the name of the list is changed to something like questions@freebsd.us. In a previous message to me you stated: > So it seems clear that: > > - English is the language in use in lists unless otherwise stated > > - there are non-English lists. > Both of those statements are true. Neither leads to the conclusion that other languages are banned from this list. The fact that English is the default language for this list does not imply that other languages are banned. > I responded because I do think it's important that the lists remain a > useful archive, and that a call, as I read it, to splinter into many > languages would break this. This is hogwash. Postings in other languages are still a useful archive. I don't claim to be multilingual, and I have certainly never made an effort to learn French, yet I can usually read enough of a French posting to understand the problem and proposed solution. Historically, the number of non-English postings has been so low as to be a non-issue. Your conjecture about what might happen was long ago demonstrated to be false. The list is here to help people. Creating an arbitrary English-only rule helps no one, and serves no useful purpose. As much as I would like to ban the French to their own list, I can't think of any legitimate reason to do so other than personal prejudice. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:06:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE9D16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:06:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from teemfws4.spt.com (teemfws4.spt.com [199.103.143.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED05743D48 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:06:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JBOMGARD@stpaultravelers.com) X-Server-Uuid: AB5C69E2-839A-43D8-B8E8-F319CCC10BD8 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:01:18 -0600 Message-ID: <9BC9288098C55A46B392908FB05FD09B2535FC@TDEXB0VC.prod.travp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB 2.0 wireless mouse Thread-Index: AcUwpTAYfVssS34ASL+Oz1kiUbE0QAAAVwHwAANyZ/A= From: "Bomgardner,Jon " To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2005 21:01:19.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[A04E4DE0:01C530B4] X-WSS-ID: 6E5DF5142OO1225022-08-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: USB 2.0 wireless mouse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:06:57 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bomgardner,Jon=20 > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:22 PM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: RE: USB 2.0 wireless mouse >=20 >=20 > > > > Subject: Re: USB 2.0 wireless mouse > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > What is the mouse you're using=3F Was this part of a=20 > > wireless desktop > > > > (keyboard and mouse)=3F > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > It's a Targus model PAWM004 optical wireless mouse and it=20 > > is not part of > > > a desktop set. I should also mention that I've recompiled=20 > > the kernel to > > > add USB 2.0 support (ehci driver) and am relatively new to=20 > > FreeBSD. I've > > > managed to get most glitches out except this one and my=20 > > sound card (I'm > > > using a laptop and things are kinda sketchy). > > >=20 > > > Thanks, > > > Jon Bomgardner > >=20 > > Well, I'm jealous that you've got USB 2.0 compiled without getting a > > kernel panic (mine went awol when I added ehci). > >=20 > > Unfortunately I don't know if I can be much help. At least not > > directly. Perhaps these URLs will get you closer to the mark: > >=20 > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-February/msg0 > >5000.html > >http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread401-1.html > > > >Good luck. > > > >Lou >=20 > OK... I checked these out but they are for Xorg and the problem I'm > having is in the console. Unfortunately, neither of these worked.=20 >=20 > Any other ideas or leads to where I can find the information I need=3F >=20 So, I managed to avoid the conflict by removing the USB keyboard driver =66rom my kernel (in hopes that the mouse driver would just take over) but it didn't. Now when I plug it in I can still type but it doesn't work. /dev doesn't show a ums0 device. Any ideas anyone=3F Thanks, Jon Bomgardner =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained= = herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = information that is confidential or legally protected. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:13:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DD716A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:13:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37B243D54 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2OLDNle007735; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:13:23 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Bob Johnson In-Reply-To: <42432AC9.50702@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <42432AC9.50702@eng.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:13:23 +0000 Message-Id: <1111698803.756.145.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:13:36 -0000 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 16:02 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > As much as I would like to ban the French to their own list, > I can't think of any legitimate reason to do so other than > personal prejudice. Well, it's good to see you strike a light-hearted note. There are an impressive number of straw men in your post but the earlier correspondence speaks for itself, and makes it perfectly clear what I was arguing, so perhaps that's a good point at which to end the thread. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:18:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D320216A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:18:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dns1.popstick.com (dns1.popstick.com [66.37.210.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31A4643D46 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mlists@northglobe.com) Received: (qmail 39634 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 21:18:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.106?) (24.147.148.119) by dns1.popstick.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 21:18:55 -0000 Message-ID: <42432EBF.50704@northglobe.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:18:55 -0500 From: Nicholas Basila User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1735169762.20050324050924@wanadoo.fr> <42426471.9040007@northglobe.com> <154939230.20050324195513@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <154939230.20050324195513@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:18:56 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Nicholas Basila writes: > > > >>You can back up to tape and restore in single user mode. If /var and >>/tmp aren't too big, you could boot into single user mode, >>mount /usr >>mount -r /var (just to be safe) >>mount -r /tmp >> >> > > > >>and create tar balls or even use dump to file (use the device in /dev as >>source, of course) with /var and /tmp unmounted. >> >> > > > >>Then, reboot into single user mode with the new disk, set up the disk >>the way you want it with fdisk and bsdlabel, and then untar or restore >>from dump. >> >> > >Can I boot from the FreeBSD boot CD and avoid mounting anything on any >of the hard drives at all? (That's not a problem in this case, since the >root is on a different drive, but if I ever had to replace the drive >containing the root I'm just wondering how to go about it.) > > > Sure... just use the live disk. As long as you can access the necessary /dev entries from the CD, you can copy it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:21:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9655616A4CF for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dns1.popstick.com (dns1.popstick.com [66.37.210.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F15E543D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:21:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mlists@northglobe.com) Received: (qmail 40943 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2005 21:21:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.106?) (24.147.148.119) by dns1.popstick.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2005 21:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <42432F69.5040108@northglobe.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:21:45 -0500 From: Nicholas Basila User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noah References: <20050324204623.M73583@enabled.com> In-Reply-To: <20050324204623.M73583@enabled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bacula with onstream configuration for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:21:46 -0000 Noah wrote: >Hi there, > >can somebody please suggest a configuration for bacula use on a FreeBSD 4.9 >machine? anybody got this running well? tips for initial onstream setup are >welcome. > >cheers, > >Noah > > > Are you having trouble with bacula in the ports tree? I have it running on 4.11 with no problems. I'm using an LTO. If you're having trouble using an OnStream drive (that is your tape drive, right?), I can't help you there... though btape might work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:37:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28F016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com [81.94.82.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4694B43D41 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ulfalizer@gmail.com) Received: by 239dsl82.soderhamn-net.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3320E6116; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:40:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:40:56 +0100 From: Ulf Magnusson To: freebsd-questions list Message-ID: <20050324214056.GA4188@obygden> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions list References: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> <16961.63535.308365.99806@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20050324184749.GA889@obygden> <200503241522.43300.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503241522.43300.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 -0000 On Tor, Mar 24, 2005 at 03:22:43pm -0500, Paul J. Pathiakis wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:47, Ulf Magnusson wrote: > > > da0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 > > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > > da0: Serial Number JQ5040KTPS9 > > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > > da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) > > > > I still have the same problem though; only da0 shows up in > > /dev , and it still can't be mounted. "camcontrol devlist" now lists > > my iPod as, > > > > btw, have you done a simple: > > ls -sald /dev/da0* > > ? > > I'm working on this right now, and I found the 'pod at /dev/da0s2 > > However, the pod is having issues. If I boot the pod from the machine > when down, it's recognized and everything is fine. > > However, if I try to connect after I'm up, I get the umass device but > not the da0 device. Just weird. > > P. Yes, all I have is the /dev/da0 device. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 21:52:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC50616A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:52:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se (pernis.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9A43D55 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:52:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id DCB1127B; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:52:08 +0100 (MEZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s332; Thu, 24 Mar 05 22:52:01 +0100 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8052DB; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:52:01 +0100 (MEZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 46C0338016; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DCE5C002; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:52:01 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Davour To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAC module problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:52:11 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Christopher Nehren wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2005-03-24, Andreas Davour scribbled these > curious markings: >> I'v tried to load a few MAC modules and try that security system. This >> oddity appeared in dmesg: >> >> "mac_policy_modevent: can't load mac_lomac policy after booting >> module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (mac_lomac, 0xc056f4dc, 0xc1c285c0) error >> 16" > > It means exactly what it says. You can't load mac_lomac after having > booted the system. You can see from mac_lomac(4) that you can put it in > your kernel configuration, and that you load it from loader.conf. If you > don't want to rebuild your kernel, you can use the module, if you have > it. Ah! That's "loader.conf", not rc.conf as where I put it! Sorry. I must have been *very* tired when I read that and put it in the rc.conf file. Thanks. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 22:07:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4C016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:07:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD2143D49 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:07:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ts4short@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so713717rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:07:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oEgORRao4InKaglxSng9ai86mR2b5l0pKhyW3J0x3tqxbk0f1xUovftJqrt+e+bMF+680xY254EAMJEZRF8Kq8B07djaztIxWvaQYYWq5xN4yMIy3uAFrMyh6LJEH5PJD43X5r3mxj33Wdyx6fZTHiDd7CF9O1yrqxrz1j5dVzE= Received: by 10.38.59.6 with SMTP id h6mr1783938rna; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.12.54 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:07:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <48780938050324140739482fe8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:07:57 +0000 From: Todd Shirk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hardware problems after installing 5.4 pre-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Todd Shirk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:07:59 -0000 I'm running FreeBsd/amd64 on a Gateway 7422GX. I installed the 5.3-release version and configured the OS to function properly with the hardware except for the built-in wireless and the infamous conexant softmodem. I read up on some wireless setups to get my wireless card working. In the process, I decided to try my first attempt at a rebuild of world with the latest cvsup stable-supfile download (March 24, 2005). I used the method of: # make buildworld # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # reboot selected singleuser mode from startup menu # fsck -p # mount -u / # mount -a -t ufs # swapon -a # mergemaster -p # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot (MYKERNEL is the GENERIC plus the lines needed for loading the sound system and the via8233 sound driver for my sound card) device sound device "snd_via8233" (with mergemaster I chose "i" for each file, indicating to use tempory) I booted into the new environment and started KDE3.4. I noticed that I had no sound and no usb mouse functionality. I did the following: # cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x1000 irq 10 (5p/1r/0v channels duplex default) So, the driver seems to be loading, but I'm getting no sound. I've, also, done the following to try to get the sound back. # sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=8 # sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=8 I checked my mixer levels in KDE and added hint.pcm.0.vol="100" to the /boot/device.hints being that the usb mouse also stopped working, I think there might be an issue with the hardware discovery routines in bootup or a configuration file that 5.3 used was overwritten with the rebuilding of world. I'm quite new to FreeBSD and am trying to get a good grasp on the general workings of the OS. So, assume that I need step by step guidelines. Perhaps, since I'm dealing with a pre-release, some of the functionality is missing by design. I have assumed that STABLE would mean that functioning hardware from the prior release will continue functioning with STABLE. I've stayed clear of CURRENT assuming things may often be broken in that branch, as it is experimental. Any help in enlightening me on my hardware issues will be greatly appreciated. # uname -a FreeBSD Todds-Notebook.linksys 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Mar 24 14:26:05 UTC 2005 root@Todds-Notebook.linksys:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 22:15:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6C516A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:15:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6842843D1F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:9972 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEac9-000I0c-N1; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:15:41 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7E2841A7; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:18:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ABE58C826; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:15:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:15:41 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Todd Shirk Message-Id: <20050324231541.361f3b89.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <48780938050324140739482fe8@mail.gmail.com> References: <48780938050324140739482fe8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware problems after installing 5.4 pre-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:15:42 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:07:57 +0000 Todd Shirk wrote: > (MYKERNEL is the GENERIC plus the lines needed for loading the sound > system and the via8233 sound driver for my sound card) > device sound > device "snd_via8233" > (with mergemaster I chose "i" for each file, indicating to use > tempory) > > I booted into the new environment and started KDE3.4. I noticed that > I had no sound and no usb mouse functionality. I did the following: > > # cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x1000 irq 10 (5p/1r/0v channels duplex > default) did you check with kldstat which module for sounds was loaded ? and tried : kldload snd_driver ? see e.g. : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 22:32:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCAF16A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:32:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxsf20.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf20.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A7A43D55 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:32:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pathiaki@pathiaki.com) Received: from mxip11.cluster1.charter.net (mxip11a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.141])j2OMWfPa021448 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:32:41 -0500 Received: from cpe-68-184-36-187.ma.charter.com (HELO pc4.atlantisservices.com) (68.184.36.187) by mxip11.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 24 Mar 2005 17:32:41 -0500 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.91,120,1110171600"; d="scan'208"; a="881703357:sNHT14031184" From: "Paul J. Pathiakis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:32:40 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050323225935.GA573@obygden> <200503241522.43300.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> <20050324214056.GA4188@obygden> In-Reply-To: <20050324214056.GA4188@obygden> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503241732.40591.pathiaki@pathiaki.com> cc: Ulf Magnusson Subject: Re: iPod USB problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:32:44 -0000 > > Yes, all I have is the /dev/da0 device. > _______________________________________________ Well, first off, I'm not getting those CAM retry errors... second, I noticed this: da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: 19073MB (39063024 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2431C) I still have the same problem though; only da0 shows up in /dev , and it still can't be mounted. "camcontrol devlist" now lists my iPod as, message "camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 1:0:0". Perhaps I've just misunderstood what camcontrol eject expects. What SCSI options are in your kernel? (I'm REALLY reaching here, just trying to help...) I noticed that it says "no passthrough device", I have no idea, but, I have the fully SCSI device set in my kernel, including the passthrough device, pass. If you do, then, I guess we just have to believe it's having trouble talking to the device and due to the trouble, it's not detecting the passthrough device because it never negotiated the SCSI target correctly. # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 23:38:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CB016A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:38:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E0443D5D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:38:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmorland@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so727165wri for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:38:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=oZdWIjgCJ18c/zEN/axqgbvrwq0Iw+/TBG6LhvsspLpXcsMt/jh4r0ZODJnsAFVaGey8VdIS/Qs9JeNPq+99W5P8sghj7oZa8ti7V1DCitPENEa0hkaz/ytWXXbLWEjhaiWoQ8xNsCLa/L7IeNbuluJ1x/qO83uqLAvYXJZZR9Y= Received: by 10.54.29.67 with SMTP id c67mr658772wrc; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.28.14 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:38:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8ca9329050324153842a7ae9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:38:11 -0500 From: Chad Morland To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <57F38D49593DEC8728659864@utd49554.utdallas.edu> cc: Nick Pavlica cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring critical processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chad Morland List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:38:12 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:31:58 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Thanks, Nick. I knew of nagios, but I was not aware that it was capable of > restarting stopped services. Nagios is able to restart stopped services. I currently use it to monitor my network. You can create plugins for Nagios that will run after a certain set of conditions have been met. I'm not sure if this is completely documented but you may want to search the nagios list archives. -CM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 23:46:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC1716A4F2 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:46:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraken.noc.utoronto.ca (kraken.noc.utoronto.ca [128.100.97.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6518B43D3F for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikep@noc.utoronto.ca) Received: from kraken.noc.utoronto.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2ONkqTA005394 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mikep@localhost) by kraken.noc.utoronto.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2ONkq5o005389 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:46:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Peterson Message-Id: <200503242346.j2ONkq5o005389@kraken.noc.utoronto.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual boot + scripted install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:46:54 -0000 All of this is FreeBSD 5.2.1, if it matters. I'm trying to do a scripted install / Jumpstart using PXE booting and 'install.cfg'; all works fine when assigning the entire disk to FreeBSD. When I change to have 'install.cfg' select the "free" disk space left after WinXP is installed in slice 1, it fails in various ways ("Copy returned error status of 1" when attempting to label the disk and/or install boot manager, or can't create '/dev/da0s2b'). If I go through the procedure manually, using either standard install or Expert install, create the partition/slice manually, install 'BootMgr', and create the Disklabel partitions by hand (on 'da0s2'), all is fine, except it doesn't install my selected packages. Here is the hopefully relevant part of 'install.cfg': ---------------------- install.cfg ------------------------------- # Turn on extra debugging. debug=YES # Ok, this ought to turn off ALL prompting. nonInteractive=YES noWarn=YES tryDHCP=YES # # FreeBSD installation configuration. # # Host configuration (DHCP will actually set most of this). # netDev=bge1 hostname=XXX.utoronto.ca # # Server configuration for FreeBSD installation. # _ftpPath=ftp://10.1.2.3/IDS mediaSetFTP # # Distribution configuration. # dists=base crypto bin doc manpages info compat21 des src sbase ssys setc ports distSetCustom # # Disk partition ("slice") / Master Boot Record configuration. # # Slice 1: Windows (should be pre-installed) # Slice 2: FreeBSD (will use remaining free space on the disk) # disk=da0 partition=free # Use 'all', and change 'da0s2' to 'da0s1' below to use the entire disk. #partition=all bootManager=booteasy diskPartitionEditor # Doing this here causes problems - can't create '/dev/da0s2b'. #diskPartitionWrite # # Disk label configuration. # # # Partition Size (MB) Size (blocks) # - --------- --------- ------------- # 1 / 500 1024000 # 2 swap 4096 8388608 # 3 /var 100 204800 # 4 /usr 10000 20480000 # 5 /data remainder remainder # # Note: sizes below are in blocks (512 bytes). # da0s2-1=ufs 1024000 / da0s2-2=swap 8388608 none da0s2-3=ufs 204800 /var 1 da0s2-4=ufs 20480000 /usr 1 da0s2-5=ufs 0 /data 1 # diskLabelEditor diskLabelCommit # # Install FreeBSD. # installCommit # # Install extra packages. # _ftpPath=ftp://10.1.2.3/IDS mediaSetFTP package=cvsup-without-gui packageAdd ... package=IDSINSTALL packageAdd # # End 'sysinstall'. # shutdown ------------------------------------------------------------------ The problems with this I know of are that the slice is created with the wrong subtype (not 165); I have not been able to delete/recreate the slice / label it / commit successfully once the install dies and puts you back into interactive mode. I tried commenting off 'nonInteractive=YES', and/or adding 'diskInteractive=YES'; both work fine, but the rest of 'install.cfg' is not run (and none of the partition settings are picked up automatically). I'd be happy to do some of the FDISK / Disklabel stuff by hand if necessary, but how to make the install process pick up where it left off? I've got several pointers to web sites that deal with this issue, sort of, but they are all interactive installs. The 'sysinstall' man page and 'help' files are not as illuminating as I hoped :-(. Thanks in advance, Mike. -- Perform plastic surgery: cut up your credit cards. Mike Peterson U/T Network Security E-mail: mikep@noc.utoronto.ca Tel: 416-978-5230 WWW: http://www.noc.utoronto.ca/~mikep/ Fax: 416-971-1362 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 24 23:56:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E74316A4CE; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:56:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (82.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9206143D54; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:56:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151834AD19; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:56:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from melon.pingpong.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (melon.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 60035-02-3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:56:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se (1-2-8-5a.asp.sth.bostream.se [82.182.157.66]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E5D4ACE4; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:56:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:56:35 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Peter Much Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050316191303.GA87431@gate.oper.dinoex.org> References: <20050315170656.GA73993@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <9C05F10029508113D296723A@rambutan.pingpong.net> <20050315185224.GA83998@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <20050316104331.GA56139@gate.oper.dinoex.org> <012F732A0FD93F1880662177@rambutan.pingpong.net> <20050316191303.GA87431@gate.oper.dinoex.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pingpong.net cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org cc: brett_schwarz@yahoo.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3: Sharedlibs using sharedlibs (and Tcl) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:56:39 -0000 --On onsdag, mars 16, 2005 20.13.03 +0100 Peter Much wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:35:16PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > ! > ! --On onsdag, mars 16, 2005 11.43.31 +0100 Peter Much > ! wrote: > ! > ! >! So, you're saying that pctclsh *can* access, but pgaccess *cannot*? > ! >Odd... ! I would expect they'd both use the same lib to connect, no? > ! >I'll have to > ! > > ! >They use the same libraries, yes. But Tcl interpreter seem to need more > ! >advice on where to find sub-functions in other libraries. It looks > ! >like this: > ! > > ! >pgtclsh -finds-> libpgtcl.so -finds-> libpq.so -finds-> libkrb5.so > ! >pgaccess -loads-> libpgtcl.so -finds-> libpq.so -fails-> libkrb5.so > ! > ! Uh, OK. I'm not qualified enough with linkers to answer this, I'm > afraid. ! Did you try the pgsql-interfaces mailing list? > > Oh well, same with me. I sent a copy of one of my reports to that > list, yes. But only got feedback that it will be evaluated by > moderator, as I am not signed on that list. > I'm actually no professional psql user - the database is just a small > part of my installation, mainly logging the lowlevel error counts > from my exabyte drives and providing reports about tape wearout. > And the kerberos is just there for fun, as a reference installation. > > Nevertheless, I would think this is not a matter for the postgres > community. Because this would happen the same way with any other > application that provides Tcl support and kerberos support (or maybe > also with other components of the system, if they are used from Tcl). > > So it seems either a Tcl problem or a linker/loader problem. Which, > I cannot say - maybe both. > > ! >And then I found that it is enough to place into libpq.so the explicit > ! >references to libkrb5 and the other kerberos libs. That is what the > ! >"readelf -a" output in my other mail shows. > ! > ! sounds like a better solution, yes... Shouldn't they always be there? > ! Sounds like a bug to me? > > Thats the question. > I just did a little more investigation (like reading manpages) > and found out _WHY_ it does work for pgtclsh but not for pgaccess. > > There is a command "ldd" that shows nested library dependencies > for any program. > For pgtclsh it shows all the kerberos libs: > > bash-3.00# ldd /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh > /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh: > libpgtcl.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so.2 (0x28075000) > libpq.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x2807d000) > libtcl84.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl84.so.1 (0x28097000) > libm.so.3 => /lib/libm.so.3 (0x28135000) > libkrb5.so.7 => /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.7 (0x2814f000) > libasn1.so.7 => /usr/lib/libasn1.so.7 (0x28186000) > libcrypto.so.3 => /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x281a6000) > libroken.so.7 => /usr/lib/libroken.so.7 (0x2829b000) > libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x282a9000) > libcom_err.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x282c1000) > libz.so.2 => /lib/libz.so.2 (0x282c3000) > libreadline.so.5 => /lib/libreadline.so.5 (0x282d3000) > libutil.so.4 => /lib/libutil.so.4 (0x282ff000) > libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x2830b000) > libintl.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 (0x283e4000) > libssl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x283ed000) > libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x2841b000) > libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x2845a000) > > But for libpgtcl.so (this is the first elf binary that pgaccess gets > to see) it does not show these kerberos libraries (I use the old > libpq.so here, not the one that I have modified): > > bash-3.00# ldd /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so > /usr/local/lib/libpgtcl.so: > libpq.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libpq.so.3 (0x2815a000) > libtcl84.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libtcl84.so.1 (0x28174000) > libm.so.3 => /lib/libm.so.3 (0x28212000) > libintl.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 (0x2822c000) > libssl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x28235000) > libcrypto.so.3 => /lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x28263000) > libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28358000) > > Then the explanation became simple: these kerberos libraries get > just LITERALLY LISTED WITHIN THE pgtclsh BINARY! And this is an > impossible method for a Tcl script. > > bash-3.00# readelf -d /usr/local/bin/pgtclsh | grep krb5 > 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libkrb5.so.7] > > So now we have a full explanation for the behaviour, but not really > a solution. > Instead, this looks like a fundamental question about how to load > nested elf sharedlibs from interpreter languages. > > From my technical viewpoint, the only solution that makes sense > would be: every shared library must reference all other shared > libraries from which it uses functions. The shared library cannot > rely on the executable to do this job, because the executable > may be an interpreter script, which neither is able to do this > nor would it want to know them all. > > From this viewpoint, the linker command that creates libpq.so > is defective. So You were right and its a problem for the > postgresql developers. > > But as I am not competent with shared libraries and development > systems and such stuff, I would very much appreciate the opinion > of somebody with profound knowledge of these things. And anyway, > perl should have similar problems. > > Ok, lets see - which nice mailinglists do we crosspost today? > I go with questions and ports, and add hackers. I think we're now > deep enough in the rabbithole for them. ;-) > And psql-interfaces. > > PMc Hi! Has anyone been able to shed any light on this? postgres + kerberos makes libpqxx and libpqtcl fail, at least on FreeBSD. Any ideas? /Palle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 00:37:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C6316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:37:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F4043D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:37:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from whitekid@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so961000rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:37:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N+PO2Ca1ceZRdqvV8e7u6zpF+vnkyT+V2CitKNhxnr1r0yRf+INVCinpYoz4gi6pNeXxXiRkdJBduPmHDkdyrbgWZj0B4jEMXI0a5SdQTSXlhEmyrJoqmbr8n4KYhOKGi0bysehoTSEcOhYpu0ucQW5mhstuD/1ODOiSqlMgtAk= Received: by 10.38.163.7 with SMTP id l7mr2080145rne; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.14.60 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:37:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38c00bae05032416373468f83b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:16 +0900 From: "Choe, Cheng-Dae" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: portupgrade make error... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Choe, Cheng-Dae" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:37:17 -0000 When updating ports by portupgrade. It make some error [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 208 packages found (-2 +2) (...)[Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 208 packages found (-2 +2) (...)/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:239:in `origin': private method `split' called for nil:NilClass: Cannot update the pkgdb!] (PkgDB::DBError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkginfo.rb:178:in `origin' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:913:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:929:in `sort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:933:in `sort_build!' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:674:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1869 portupgrade package versions are liles below $ pkg_info | egrep "portupgrade|ruby" portupgrade-20041226_1 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool s ruby-1.8.2_3 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full f= eatu portupgrade has problem? --=20 Choe, Cheng-Dae(=C3=D6=C1=A4=B4=EB) Blog: http://www.comdongin.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 00:39:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC19016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:39:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B61F43D54 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:39:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Received: from coors.wixb.com (coors.wixb.com [10.43.82.5]) j2P0d45Y022643 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050324183616.00bfca90@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:39:03 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: cvs tag for 5.4-BETA1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:39:06 -0000 What cvs tag should I be using to be working at 5.4-BETA1? tag=RELENG_5 ? ..thanks :) When I last cvsup'd and build world/kernel it still showed "5.4-PRERELEASE" so I wanted to make sure. -- J.D. Bronson Off The Hook Phone Repair, Inc. 24 Hour Service // Free Estimates For Fast Repairs: CALL US - IF YOU CAN Office: 414.978.8282 // Pager: 414.314.8282 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 00:51:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B0516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B1B43D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j2P0pbNL084371; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:51:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: JP Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20050324132957.86747.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050324132957.86747.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/779/Tue Mar 22 07:34:41 2005 on smarthost2.sentex.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp.conf PPPoE Errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:51:39 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:29:57 -0800 (PST), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Hello, >=20 >I just recently set up ppp.conf for PPPoE DSL Service with SBC. I'm = getting the following errors in my /var/log/ppp.log file, any idea what = it means? I assume I need to disable IPV6 somehow but I don't know. Hi, its in the ppp man pages. Just add disable ipv6cp in either the default section or in your pppoe section ---Mike >=20 >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his =3D = PAP, m >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: xxxxxx = * >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS = () >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> = open >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network >Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: IPV6CP = protocol reject closes IPV6CP ! >Mar 23 09:49:20 last message repeated 15 times >=20 >My ppp.conf file: >=20 >default: > set device PPPoE:ed0:SBCIS > set mtu 1492 > add default HISADDR > set time 0 > set redial 0 0 ># NAT Config > nat enable yes > nat log yes > nat same_ports yes > nat unregistered_only yes > enable dns >SBCIS: > set authname xxxxxx > set authkey xxxxxx >=20 >Thanks! >JP >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 01:11:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A5B16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:11:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao07.cox.net (lakermmtao07.cox.net [68.230.240.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47F243D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:11:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ned.woody@cox.net) Received: from nedsbsd.cox.net ([68.13.119.137]) by lakermmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050325011111.CGUZ19214.lakermmtao07.cox.net@nedsbsd.cox.net>; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:11:11 -0500 From: Ned Harrison Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:12:31 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503241912.32120.ned.woody@cox.net> cc: Bill Moran Subject: Fwd: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:11:14 -0000 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP Date: Tuesday 22 March 2005 01:15 pm From: Bill Moran To: Ned Harrison Cc: [My apologies to the moderator for the traffic, but I just unsubscribed, and I didn't want to leave this person hanging.] Ned Harrison wrote: > On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:55 pm, you wrote: > > Ned Harrison wrote: > > > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then > > > I've had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will > > > sometimes freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." > > > or I'll lose contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the > > > web. From an earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will > > > let the system finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my > > > ISP by running "/etc/netstart" as root. > > > > > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later > > > I'll lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a > > > pattern to the disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again > > > everything works again. It can be hours before I the lose the > > > connection or sometimes I'll lose the connection again within twenty > > > minutes. I've searched for a permanent fix by looking throught this > > > forum. But I havn't found anything yet. Though that might be because > > > I don't quite know how to search! :-) > > > > > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is > > being logged around the time you lose connection. > > > > Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does > > ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The > > difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. > > Thank you for the suggestions. I've scanned the log files and didn't see > any unusual error messages. But that could be because I don't know what to > look for. I've run FreeBSD for just about one year and had no Unix > experience prior to that at all. I jumped from Windows, where somebody did > everything for me to, FreeBSD where I have to figure things out on my own > with only hints and suggestions. (Honestly, I find it funner this way!) > I'll check to logs next time it goes down. > > I copied the results from ifconfig when everything is working to a file. > As soon as I "lose the connection" I'll run ifconfig again. > > To get more defined regarding the loss of connection, it's almost as if I > typed "ipfw flush" as root and cut myself down to the default "deny > everything" rule. Sent emails will set unprocessed in the queue, when > attempting to download e-mail, K-mail will return an unknown host error > message, web browsers will either open to a blank white page or give me an > invalid ULR error message. It even went down while viewing a video on > Xine. The video just stopped, then I got an "invalid host" error message. > As soon as I type /etc/netstart. Boom! everythings up an running as if > nothing was ever wrong. I saw your other email as well, which shows that ifconfig during up/down is the same. That means that you're not losing your IP address, and the fact that /etc/netstart fixes the problem probably means it's not hardware related. So the next steps are to tear apart the networking system and figure out exactly which part of it is shutting off. First, do these: 1) Copy /etc/resolv.conf to your home dir: this contains your DNS server information. 2) Save the output of `netstat -rn` (use something like `netstat -rn > /home//netstat.txt` This is your routing table. Now ... the next time it goes down, check: 1) Did /etc/resolv.conf change? 2) Did the output of `netstat -rn` change? 3) In the netstat output will be a line that starts with "default", see if you can ping that IP address - if not, then the problem is probably with your switch/hub or other local network. 4) Try pinging 206.190.36.122 (that's the ip for story.news.yahoo.com), if it works, then the problem is likely with DNS. 5) if #4 works, try pinging story.news.yahoo.com ... if that fails, then DNS is almost certainly the problem, if that works, then the problem is somewhere in the network config, or application config. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the help. I believe you are correct in that it's probably not a hardware issue. I dual boot with Linux and I am having no problems connecting to the internet on that side. System didn't go down Wednesday, but it went down today. The output of netstat -rn didn't change. I tried to ping the IP address after the word default in line 3. Here is the output: nedsbsd# ping -a -c 3 -o 68.13.118.1 PING 68.13.118.1 (68.13.118.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Permission denied ping: sendto: Permission denied ping: sendto: Permission denied --- 68.13.118.1 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss However, when I ran /etc/netstart and tried it again I got the same result. I don't have a local network or hub or switch. So could the problem be with my ISP? I will try the ping command the Linux side to see what I get. After that I'll pull out the holy water, incense, and rubber chicken to see if that will help! Thanks, Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 01:24:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32BA16A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:24:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5C543D68 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linicks@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so754258rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ItKczOBCAwoSOczk/ASNxOPJwjFWUWNRtbswVqiErnGVB8/VRMdGsu/9foOM66lUm3d1H746SYgt4A1vbrYp3n8NGGYDU8G90S4ZzMpNDCaiamhNoNJE0CWaINPvFjPGKAAYTuZw2C9evRfpx1mGoMbJd67vt97adI965XaALiU= Received: by 10.38.151.33 with SMTP id y33mr2125655rnd; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.165.35 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:24:06 -0700 From: Nick Pavlica To: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050324183616.00bfca90@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050324183616.00bfca90@cheyenne.wixb.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs tag for 5.4-BETA1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Pavlica List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:24:08 -0000 Hello, > tag=RELENG_5 ? This is the correct tag for Beta 1. --Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 01:53:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E689016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:53:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18EA43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:53:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEe0H-0007kT-Tq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:52:49 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:52:49 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:52:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 33 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing 4.x inside a 5.x jail / chroot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:53:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've been submitting a number of ports recently, mostly Perl-based ones. Sometimes they don't work on old Perls (and Kris Kennaway has always been there to inform me; shame that I couldn't respond before Simon Barner did this morning). At the moment I don't have a 4.x machine configured to run the six or seven year old 5.005_03 release that's in the 4.x base system. This means that I can't (easily; switching the 4.x box to use 5.005_03 is a mess and I've broken my installation that way) test my ports before submitting them for systems running this ancient (but still supported) version of Perl. I've been considering installing RELENG_4 inside of a jail on my 5.x machine (the 4.x machine is too starved for resources now as it is, I don't want to make its life any harder), but I'm not sure how well that would work. Has anyone had any experiences with this? Any caveats? Can I simply replicate the instructions in jail(8) but with RELENG_4 bits? Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQ298k/lo7zvzJioRAioQAJ9GUOK8GUMToYmy3vCTIAJeo99fRACfTg6Q XXWwdphsI8PJNcfGaOBOYbs= =/5nI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:13:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE4516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:13:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f2.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F53143D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:13:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from texas_consultant@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:13:45 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 67.10.73.69 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:13:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.10.73.69] X-Originating-Email: [texas_consultant@hotmail.com] X-Sender: texas_consultant@hotmail.com From: "Texas Consultant" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:13:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 02:13:45.0335 (UTC) FILETIME=[45E4B070:01C530E0] Subject: NDIS installation problem with WMP54G v4 wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:13:46 -0000 Just put together a new BSD 5.3 machine, and compiled NDIS for use with a Linksys WMP54g v4 card; it's a wireless card that uses the Ralink RT2500 chipset. Everything works so far; major steps are: 1. make ndis 2. copy over NDIS driver files 3. make if_ndis 4. kldload ndis However, kldload if_ndis returns an error: /sbin/kldload -v /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/if_ndis.ko kldload: can't load link_elf: symbol rt2500_sys_drv_data_start undefined /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/if_ndis.ko: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis. DMESG follows: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2405.46-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 Features=0xbfebfbff real memory = 268369920 (255 MB) avail memory = 252960768 (241 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 fwohci0: mem 0xfb000000-0xfb003fff,0xfb006000-0xfb0067ff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:50:8d:00:00:5e:04:ce fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:50:8d:5e:04:ce fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:50:8d:5e:04:ce fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) dc0: port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xfb007000-0xfb0073ff irq 21 at device 5.0 on pci2 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:68:c1:82 dc0: if_start running deferred for Giant dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pci2: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xd000-0xd00f,0xcc00-0xcc03,0xc800-0xc807,0xc400-0xc403,0xc000-0xc007 irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xccfff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2405464911 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a drm0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xf9000000-0xf900ffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xf0000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0 link_elf: symbol rt2500_sys_drv_data_start undefined Any help or pointers toward a coherent resource are appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:15:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:15:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51008.mail.yahoo.com (web51008.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1239D43D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:15:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19445 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 02:15:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=f3dy08rpueO6xf8ARIwWNDuBMALFlqTyJ2RbvdoCbwmbjWnS6ztIt2Vp9Lq6QKAG8A+x4AS+ercwX+f25Omk8Zvocd31Gx2NxA1TGoP79ASLbOVNrHsxPN12nMyqH3m23Q2+A/mzjCdHhbMLRJqEviOPOGRx+4b2dg3zAU4tfv0= ; Message-ID: <20050325021537.19443.qmail@web51008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.113.106.60] by web51008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:15:37 CST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:15:37 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: remove all xfce4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:15:38 -0000 yo! trying to remove all the xfce4 components so I can rebuild it. I pkg_delete each individual *xfce* package manually (probably a bad idea). But anyhow, I can still find a lot of xfce4 app under /usr/local/bin, this interfere with the rebuild process since it think something is already there. Anything I can do? thansk a lot!! Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:20:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2F616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:20:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AB743D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:20:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.25] ([68.236.212.14])0.04 <0IDV0070TYIEJG32@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:20:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:21:14 -0500 From: bsdzz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <4243759A.4030404@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) Subject: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:20:40 -0000 I have a bunch of 'windows meta file' clipart images I want to browse, is there a browser that will let me browse them? I can't find anything in /usr/ports or by googling 'freebsd view wmf'. All I see is a wmf library. thx! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:29:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E7216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5885243D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so978713rne for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:29:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=W6wSvDXS9iW9iO5meyGONCkZ7nisQD8eY4VD9+eKBRecvN73ib9K4DqR8+vcH6fne1YfQJ6+HG0jzh0+0OTRJJSUQGf89kC4e/izJBRjv3f8244qFS8GChJrPZM3Af8uNoZJqvmaU+9kewHmiLpuYJ9wXm7wUIaeBEx2mNcWKV8= Received: by 10.38.75.80 with SMTP id x80mr2166432rna; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:29:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:29:53 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4242449E.5060709@ec.rr.com> cc: jason henson Subject: Re: mount_smbfs variable error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:29:55 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:47:44 -0500, John DeStefano wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:39:58 -0500, jason henson wrote: > > John DeStefano wrote: > > > > >I get the following error when I try to mount_smbfs a LAN file share > > >as root with 5.3-RELEASE and a GENERIC kernel, both cvsup-ed and > > >compiled this past weekend: > > >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: mount_smbfs: Undefined symbol "vfsisloadable" > > > > > >I can't find a whole lot of information about this error. But > > >apparently, "vfsisloadable" is an outdated parameter that should no > > >longer be referenced in the source. > > > > > >The only other reference I found to this error was a kernel that was > > >missing the proper support, but it seemed that a GENERIC kernel would > > >take care of that. > > > > > >Any ideas on how to verify that my system has got whatever mount_smbfs > > >may need to operate properly, or how to remedy the error? > > > > > >Thank you, > > >~John > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-04/0699.html > > > > Did you do a kldstat to see if smbfs.ko is there? It is no longer in > > GENERIC. > > > Hi Jason, > > I too found that link, which is where I got the idea that > "vfsisloadable" was an outdated parameter, but I saw that loading the > smb_fs module generated an error for that user, so I didn't follow up > on that information. > > I'm glad you pointed this out though, as loading the kernel module > works for me. > > But without your response, how would I ever have known this? It's > certainly not mentioned in UPDATING, and the error output was not > helpful. Where would I have found this information? > > Thanks, > ~John > Could someone please direct me to where I can read about when and why the smbfs module was removed from the GENERIC kernel? I can't find it, and it's not in UPDATING or the release notes. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2797216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:33:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sanddollar.geekisp.com (sanddollar.geekisp.com [204.89.131.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7333443D4C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@dune.geekisp.com) Received: (qmail 17447 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 02:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.168.4.35) by mail.geekisp.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 02:33:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:34:06 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325023406.GA9051@ayvali.org> References: <20050324011607.GA1199@ayvali.org> <200503232200.58849.bob89@bobj.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503232200.58849.bob89@bobj.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Bob Johnson Subject: Re: greetings from FreeBSD DLL Hell! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:33:46 -0000 * Bob Johnson [2005-03-23 22:00:58 -0500]: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 08:16 pm, N.J. Thomas wrote: > > "pkg_add -r foo". This worked, but it went and downloaded older > > versions of various programs (i.e. Mozilla Firefox 0.9). > > By default, pkg_add uses the packages that were built for your release > (so everything is consistent). As a result, when your release gets to > be a few months old, so do the packages. Thanks for the tip. I wasn't aware that pkg_add -r was more or less tied strictly to the release version. I followed your advice and deleted all the older packages, installed portupgrade, updated the ports tree, and reinstalled everything I needed. Things seem to be okay now. > > I installed some packages with pkg_add -r (which used the > > 5.3-RELEASE versions of the software), and then installed some other > > stuff with ports, and then updated ports with cvsup and then > > installed yet some more stuff, and now I seem to find myself in the > > FreeBSD equivalent of "DLL Hell". > > What do you mean when you say you are in DLL hell? Is something > actually not working right? FreeBSD is pretty good about managing > libraries. Well, the specific problem I had was that after doign a fresh install, I installed some packages with pkg_add. Then I updated ports, and installed some more stuff. And then when I went back to use pkg_add, it complained about some program need library v1.4 but v1.6 was installed on the system (because it had been installed by ports). thanks, Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:39:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8646E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:39:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sanddollar.geekisp.com (sanddollar.geekisp.com [204.89.131.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC1043D60 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:39:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@dune.geekisp.com) Received: (qmail 16352 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 02:39:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.168.4.35) by mail.geekisp.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 02:39:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:39:30 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: bob@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050325023929.GB9051@ayvali.org> References: <20050324011607.GA1199@ayvali.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: greetings from FreeBSD DLL Hell! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:39:09 -0000 * [2005-03-23 23:06:25 -0500]: > here is real good install guide. > http://freebsd.packards-home.net/index.php > > It has section on ports and packages. Cool, it seems like a fairly well written and mostly up to date site. I'm surprised I hadn't stumbled onto it before. Thanks for the tip. Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:48:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B4A16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:48:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sanddollar.geekisp.com (sanddollar.geekisp.com [204.89.131.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206AB43D4C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:47:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@dune.geekisp.com) Received: (qmail 24952 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 02:47:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.168.4.35) by mail.geekisp.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 02:47:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:48:20 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050325024819.GC9051@ayvali.org> References: <20050324011607.GA1199@ayvali.org> <200503231821.06709.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503231821.06709.krinklyfig@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: greetings from FreeBSD DLL Hell! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:48:01 -0000 * Joshua Tinnin [2005-03-23 18:21:05 -0800]: > Packages are built to work with the particular release specified. Once > ports are unfrozen, right before release, they start changing again, > and updating new packages for all ports for every minor version bump in > the tree is not viable at the moment (12000+ ports), AFAIK, nor would > it be in line with freezing ports before release. Yeah, this was the one thing I didn't understand about packages. I just assumed it would do the right thing and download the latest version. > > now I seem to find myself in the FreeBSD equivalent of "DLL Hell". > > Should I just blow my system away and start from scratch? Is that > > the best course of action to take at this point? > > You don't need to reinstall the OS, but it might be simpler for you if > you deleted all the packages, with pkg_delete -a (from root). That's what I ended up doing. I deleted all my packages. installed only the ones I absolutely needed (in my case: zsh, vim, and cvsup), upgraded ports, and then went from there. Thank for your help. Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 02:58:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA3116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:58:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50906.mail.yahoo.com (web50906.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4AF143D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:58:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 73932 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 02:58:04 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=itnkTEGn35YJbOOBsp5R4umpff213ms1LdJm7cGp0OW6KHSP1Zo5yxvJM+PGlNnED8NTg0r0vOkT77USyYBB73yjdmofGagbjn0mKXWz3MkrV/OUbwU3UA+b6xvfg4TRiOnSqKev7DZATZo9eYg0QTSttxj83KEc1guHBxJIPeI= ; Message-ID: <20050325025804.73930.qmail@web50906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.152.100] by web50906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:58:03 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:58:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:58:05 -0000 When I run the command ps -u -o inblock on a process reading a 262144000 byte file the highest block count I see is ~2010 but my filesystem block size is 16384 and 262144000/16384 is 16000 so it seems to be off by about a factor of 8. I even tried looking through the source code for the ps command but my C is not good enough for me to figure it out. Can someone explain or help me figure out what is going on please. Jonathan PS Please CC as I am not currently subscribed to the list. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:02:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFACE16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:02:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sanddollar.geekisp.com (sanddollar.geekisp.com [204.89.131.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE37D43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:02:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from njt@dune.geekisp.com) Received: (qmail 29377 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 03:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.168.4.35) by mail.geekisp.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 03:02:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:02:23 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20050325030223.GB9021@ayvali.org> References: <20050324011607.GA1199@ayvali.org> <42421B87.5000509@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42421B87.5000509@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: greetings from FreeBSD DLL Hell! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:02:02 -0000 * Chuck Swiger [2005-03-23 20:44:39 -0500]: > > now I seem to find myself in the FreeBSD equivalent of "DLL Hell". > > Should I just blow my system away and start from scratch? > > Oh, goodness no-- almost anything that goes wrong with a system can be > fixed without reinstalling. The key is to solve the problem the right > way. :-) Thanks for the tip! I almost blew my system away before I saw your email. The solution in this case was to delete all the packages (there were only a few that I had installed anyways), update the ports tree, and then start installing from there. Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:23:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CA416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:23:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A67743D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:23:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j2P3NROD019362; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:23:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:23:27 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <20050325032327.GE10908@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050325025804.73930.qmail@web50906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050325025804.73930.qmail@web50906.mail.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:23:28 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: > When I run the command ps -u -o inblock on a process reading a > 262144000 byte file the highest block count I see is ~2010 but my > filesystem block size is 16384 and 262144000/16384 is 16000 so it > seems to be off by about a factor of 8. I even tried looking through > the source code for the ps command but my C is not good enough for me > to figure it out. Can someone explain or help me figure out what is > going on please. That ps column actually looks at the rusage value ru_inblk, which doesn't count the number blocks read, but the number of times the kernel did physical I/O on behalf of the process (how often the kernel blocked doing a read). The clustering code will fetch up to sysctl(vfs.read_max) blocks at a time into disk cache, so reading sequential files will increment ru_inblock (blocks_in_file/read_max) times. Raising vfs.read_max to 32 will greatly increase sequential read performance on fast RAID arrays. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:27:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4A16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:27:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D40C43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:27:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary.smithe@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so674895wra for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kfOUfheC28UTAqw85toitDiyWaTZEHoHRAheji7V1y9sQiwP+8TnL59MQT7zDR8H+IsvIiujik5bqDaDr+9atfKojXb+fGD7IPlbUyE+A1fJa673I89opebHcmuCZ6tSXYJR6Z1rhD3SQcBBSTacDN3nOAN0mwBCwFqBKMpW3JM= Received: by 10.54.30.77 with SMTP id d77mr203713wrd; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.41.29 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:27:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:27:16 -0600 From: Gary Smithe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200503241912.32120.ned.woody@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503241912.32120.ned.woody@cox.net> Subject: Re: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Smithe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:27:18 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:12:31 +0000, Ned Harrison wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Re: Frequent loss of contact with ISP > Date: Tuesday 22 March 2005 01:15 pm > From: Bill Moran > To: Ned Harrison > Cc: > > [My apologies to the moderator for the traffic, but I just unsubscribed, and > I didn't want to leave this person hanging.] > > Ned Harrison wrote: > > On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:55 pm, you wrote: > > > Ned Harrison wrote: > > > > I reciently upgraded my home computer to FreeBSD 5.3 p5. Sense then > > > > I've had minor problems connecting to my ISP. During boot up it will > > > > sometimes freeze at the line, "Configuring syscons: keymap blanktime." > > > > or I'll lose contact with my ISP while sending an email or surfing the > > > > web. From an earlier posting to this forum I found that "Ctrl+C" will > > > > let the system finishing the boot up. Then I can easily connect to my > > > > ISP by running "/etc/netstart" as root. > > > > > > > > Everything works fine at least for a while. However, sooner or later > > > > I'll lose the conection again. I have not been able to discern a > > > > pattern to the disconnects either. Yet as soon as I run netstart again > > > > everything works again. It can be hours before I the lose the > > > > connection or sometimes I'll lose the connection again within twenty > > > > minutes. I've searched for a permanent fix by looking throught this > > > > forum. But I havn't found anything yet. Though that might be because > > > > I don't quite know how to search! :-) > > > > > > > > I am a newbie using FreeBSD so any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > Spend a little time in the /var/log directory and see if anything is > > > being logged around the time you lose connection. > > > > > > Also, more clearly defining "lose connection" would help. What does > > > ifconfig say when the connection is up and when it's down? The > > > difference between those two outputs may lead you toward a solution. > > > > Thank you for the suggestions. I've scanned the log files and didn't see > > any unusual error messages. But that could be because I don't know what to > > look for. I've run FreeBSD for just about one year and had no Unix > > experience prior to that at all. I jumped from Windows, where somebody did > > everything for me to, FreeBSD where I have to figure things out on my own > > with only hints and suggestions. (Honestly, I find it funner this way!) > > I'll check to logs next time it goes down. > > > > I copied the results from ifconfig when everything is working to a file. > > As soon as I "lose the connection" I'll run ifconfig again. > > > > To get more defined regarding the loss of connection, it's almost as if I > > typed "ipfw flush" as root and cut myself down to the default "deny > > everything" rule. Sent emails will set unprocessed in the queue, when > > attempting to download e-mail, K-mail will return an unknown host error > > message, web browsers will either open to a blank white page or give me an > > invalid ULR error message. It even went down while viewing a video on > > Xine. The video just stopped, then I got an "invalid host" error message. > > As soon as I type /etc/netstart. Boom! everythings up an running as if > > nothing was ever wrong. > > I saw your other email as well, which shows that ifconfig during up/down is > the same. That means that you're not losing your IP address, and the fact > that /etc/netstart fixes the problem probably means it's not hardware > related. > > So the next steps are to tear apart the networking system and figure out > exactly which part of it is shutting off. First, do these: > > 1) Copy /etc/resolv.conf to your home dir: this contains your DNS > server information. > 2) Save the output of `netstat -rn` (use something like > `netstat -rn > /home//netstat.txt` This is your routing > table. > > Now ... the next time it goes down, check: > 1) Did /etc/resolv.conf change? > 2) Did the output of `netstat -rn` change? > 3) In the netstat output will be a line that starts with "default", see > if you can ping that IP address - if not, then the problem is probably > with your switch/hub or other local network. > 4) Try pinging 206.190.36.122 (that's the ip for story.news.yahoo.com), > if it works, then the problem is likely with DNS. > 5) if #4 works, try pinging story.news.yahoo.com ... if that fails, then > DNS is almost certainly the problem, if that works, then the problem > is somewhere in the network config, or application config. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks for the help. I believe you are correct in that it's probably not a > hardware issue. I dual boot with Linux and I am having no problems > connecting to the internet on that side. > > System didn't go down Wednesday, but it went down today. The output of > netstat -rn didn't change. I tried to ping the IP address after the word > default in line 3. Here is the output: > > nedsbsd# ping -a -c 3 -o 68.13.118.1 > PING 68.13.118.1 (68.13.118.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Permission denied > ping: sendto: Permission denied > ping: sendto: Permission denied > That looks like a misconfigured firewall. Do you have it completely locked down? ping is telling you "I can't do that" > --- 68.13.118.1 ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > However, when I ran /etc/netstart and tried it again I got the same result. > GS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:30:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F286716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:30:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50910.mail.yahoo.com (web50910.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8299D43D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:30:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23220 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 03:30:30 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=T19b01tBNtKTTqLyciIx8XpS/9miWEQDXDsOxEja76rqGjxwQWV9FhIIkU/Nq1IUYM/wepYvLtbSNqJmUWifiQ7jDtETS3rNknG1VLuDCj+2pZAU88ETAweucL7UZxjJTSvc7fbYE8JW1VjLlR2r8Gk7+8rI9FPxKmZXHtva8JU= ; Message-ID: <20050325033029.23218.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.152.100] by web50910.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:30:29 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:30:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:30:31 -0000 --- Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: > > When I run the command ps -u -o inblock on a process reading a > > 262144000 byte file the highest block count I see is ~2010 but my > > filesystem block size is 16384 and 262144000/16384 is 16000 so it > > seems to be off by about a factor of 8. I even tried looking > through > > the source code for the ps command but my C is not good enough for > me > > to figure it out. Can someone explain or help me figure out what is > > going on please. > > That ps column actually looks at the rusage value ru_inblk, which > doesn't count the number blocks read, but the number of times the > kernel did physical I/O on behalf of the process (how often the > kernel > blocked doing a read). The clustering code will fetch up to > sysctl(vfs.read_max) blocks at a time into disk cache, so reading > sequential files will increment ru_inblock (blocks_in_file/read_max) > times. Raising vfs.read_max to 32 will greatly increase sequential > read performance on fast RAID arrays. > In that case how would I track how much information a process has actually read from a drive? I occasionally run processes that will read as much as 40+ gig in a single run which takes quite a while and on windows :P I can see "bytes read" and "bytes written" per process which lets me track how much the program has read so far and thus get an idea of how close it is to done. Sorry for the run-on sentence there. Thanks, Jonathan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:40:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981B16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54009.mail.yahoo.com (web54009.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96AA143D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:40:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1963 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 03:40:16 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nirWj5qoOhcDRH6G6mPVqpPIC/wWKEPCF5ghbmX5zLS2jnPX6AwxJTUKoKCr9CC+kZt996kGIZ80vTLrJ01ueEeXgCJyMwH9vk5COSt5N8or4akGFVmTRTlB2VEuPvMBDpWF7/MbMcNeLq4u4pkW4gmpHeiLG8/xpAQGDCXVi8g= ; Message-ID: <20050325034016.1961.qmail@web54009.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54009.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:40:15 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:40:15 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: FreeBSD questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: shell stdin redirection: possible for ssh-password input? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:40:19 -0000 Hi, I must connect to another computer with ssh, but this computer does not allow password-less connections (i.e. the administrator has disabled the use of id_dsa.pub, authorized_key etc.) I'm trying to write a script to do the ssh connection automatically, but the script always prompts for the password. Can I construct an input redirect, so that I can feed the password via my script? I tried following: #!/bin/sh ssh myISP < Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A2116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:44:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A2D43D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:44:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j2P3iUd6060823; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:44:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:44:30 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <20050325034430.GF10908@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20050325033029.23218.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050325033029.23218.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:44:31 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: > In that case how would I track how much information a process has > actually read from a drive? I occasionally run processes that will > read as much as 40+ gig in a single run which takes quite a while and > on windows :P I can see "bytes read" and "bytes written" per process > which lets me track how much the program has read so far and thus get > an idea of how close it is to done. Sorry for the run-on sentence > there. I use lsof, which can tell you the file offset of each open filedescriptor. "lsof -o -o20 -p ###" will print all the files currently opened by pid ###, and their current offset. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 03:53:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F5116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:53:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50903.mail.yahoo.com (web50903.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 613C243D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:53:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41292 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 03:53:03 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=kEpYgjoDQPVGN/TUcH2jTjEks577+4/I1H7OMRbTtoCUSYhFQgq/Q1ptr2k0Z9UZPPXOvi55EVM8AhdYKSOSyO0WirGC3U8QxJaRsUG5YJu+xQXYO4Hs8mAXjLjLovYMA/0VPlazlT3eH71t3jrIidRIFPdogkO3AsJg7MVujuM= ; Message-ID: <20050325035303.41290.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.152.100] by web50903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:03 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:53:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:53:05 -0000 --- Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: > > In that case how would I track how much information a process has > > actually read from a drive? I occasionally run processes that will > > read as much as 40+ gig in a single run which takes quite a while > and > > on windows :P I can see "bytes read" and "bytes written" per > process > > which lets me track how much the program has read so far and thus > get > > an idea of how close it is to done. Sorry for the run-on sentence > > there. > > I use lsof, which can tell you the file offset of each open > filedescriptor. "lsof -o -o20 -p ###" will print all the files > currently opened by pid ###, and their current offset. > Hmm, that almost works but the program opens 1000's of files each time. The program is Unison which is a file synchronizer and I have it synchronizing files sets >40GB with and 1000's or more files. Based on your description once the file is closed I can't even tell if it was read or not :P Thanks (a bunch) again, Jonathan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:00:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EFA16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:00:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay23-f20.bay23.hotmail.com [64.4.22.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84C143D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:00:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill_henderson@hotmail.fr) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:00:24 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 24.101.200.132 by by23fd.bay23.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:00:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.101.200.132] X-Originating-Email: [bill_henderson@hotmail.fr] X-Sender: bill_henderson@hotmail.fr In-Reply-To: <4243759A.4030404@verizon.net> From: "Bill Henderson" To: bsdzz@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:00:23 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 04:00:24.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C1A1130:01C530EF] Subject: RE: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:00:27 -0000 >From: bsdzz >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: wmf file browser ? >Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:21:14 -0500 > >I have a bunch of 'windows meta file' clipart images I want to browse, is >there a browser that will let me browse them? I can't find anything in >/usr/ports or by googling 'freebsd view wmf'. All I see is a wmf library. Google for libwmf - see if that helps _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : dialoguez en temps réel avec vos amis ! http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/866 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:16:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525A416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:16:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2683943D5E for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.25] ([68.236.212.14])0.04 <0IDW008FK3VQJVY0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:16:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:17:08 -0500 From: bsdzz In-reply-to: To: Bill Henderson Message-id: <424390C4.8060604@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:16:41 -0000 > Google for libwmf - see if that helps > I find the main website for libwmf has been taken over by a spammer: http://www.wvware.com/libwmf.html I thought a library was an enabler for an application, and that to use this WMF library I would have to use a application that used it. But I can't find which apps use this WMF library. Since their website seems to be taken over by a spammer, maybe they are not around anymore? thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:24:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:24:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E1E43D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:24:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2P4OMDE001781; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:24:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:24:22 -0500 To: Osmany Guirola Cruz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) on 128.113.2.4 Subject: Re: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:24:34 -0000 At 5:00 PM +0000 3/24/05, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: >Hi people > >I am learning in the use of cvs for sync my src and ports i use >this command line and works perfectly > >#cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src > >but this line update my source tree with the current version 6.0. >But i don't want this version so then i do this > >#cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -rRELENG_5 src > >and get this error >cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: >Permission denied > >What can i do? I do not know for sure, but try: #cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -rRELENG_5 src -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:25:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFC216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:25:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53908.mail.yahoo.com (web53908.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0973443D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12350 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 04:25:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=YzQzTqPCkO63qiklIXcSNGPhku1420lI1OF1Z90/9bKh+VdNmHQh2h20+iow2KEiQsHg4pP0TshhduF09R/bR9eRLrA4zg3QhlRbq9Bon2agqUmt6IOMWu/p+3tyYGD5tG+JBbYMJM9MDgytSWHwdiON0VOeE8ZuKgFyre1wWOE= ; Message-ID: <20050325042545.12348.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:25:45 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:25:45 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: Ralph In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot 5.3 after power failure - major bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:25:46 -0000 it was said: > --- stheg olloydson wrote: > > it was said: > > > > >>>Well you can try to boot manually it may work. > > type the > > >>>following at the boot prompt > > >>> > > >>>0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > >>>OR > > >>>0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel > > >> > > >>Ooops I guess the last one is > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel > > >>Sorry > > >> > > > > > >Oh man I hat keyboard shortcuts. just pasted the > > wrong one > > >again. > > > > > >0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Yup this is the > > one... I hope > > > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for the reply. I had tried that and kept > > getting the > > "invalid format" error. I am puzzled by the fact > > that I can get > > a directory list, but the boot loader thinks the > > format is > > wrong. Also it seems to be looking in /kernel and > > not > > /boot/kernel/. > > To work around the Disk 2 problem, I downloaded > > FreeSBIE and ran > > fsck from that. / reports as clean, but the box > > still does not > > boot. /usr and /home report HUGE numbers of > > uncorrectable errors > > and bad blocks. Tonight I am going to run SpinRite > > on the disk > > to see if the power outage really damaged the disk. > > (If it did, > > this will be the first time since the MFM/RLL disk > > days!) > > I will report the result of that test. Right now, I > > am thinking > > a power loss shutdown of 5.3 makes a system > > unrecoverable, but > > more of these tests are required before reaching > > that > > conclusion. > > Actually - I'd have to contradict that. I've been > running 5.3 on my fileserver on the home network, and > during the last few nasty storms my UPS didn't > survive, and died off 5 times in a week (yes, I > replaced it), and each time FreeBSD came back up like > a champ - no lost files (that I could find.. .yet) or > anything! . > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > stheg > > Hello, Thanks for that information. I have reached that conclusion myself based on two more tests. Both those times the system came up fine. The time the system did break is very strange. I ran a disk surface diagnostic and the platters are fine. The strange thing is I can mount the drive in another 5.3 system and read the files, but I cannot boot up the drive because I get an error that says "Invalid Format." Clearly something is broken in the boot process such that the process cannot recognize the filesystem type eventhough the data (except for some files in /var and /home) are intact. This seems to be similar to the problem that cell posted about that prompted my test in the first place. Odd that such a specific thing should break. Oh, well. Not the oddest thing I've seen an OS do by a longshot. Best regards, stheg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:29:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDD216A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9274843D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:29:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93981 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 04:29:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=U56ZiYSysa8lnePdawhp6JGfaBbHiPMMeSw9N/c5rolfA3DK2Qd2gRqfuq6fHRi0K3AuIvycplhuHQw1oHPZxm5IeFNPcWB+biLxn3M+AOUY6PQPjF0QCD7IywKCQ2kkpW1zf2t18hBTcqxvZXsPUUp1llOXwHpj+0jBCRzpAbU= ; Message-ID: <20050325042912.93979.qmail@web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90202.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:29:12 PST Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:29:12 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: em1897@aol.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:29:13 -0000 I think you may be right. I try Broadcom gigE card with same results. Very slow for amd64 build. With same hardware, very good results with 4.9/i386, not too bad with 5.4-pre/i386, and very, very poor with 5.4-pre/amd64. Boris --- em1897@aol.com wrote: > I think the point of a list is so that someone can > say "oh yes, I had > problems with the > em driver in amd64 also; try card X." But instead > you get a lot of > people with no real > idea trying to explain away the problem, as if there > is no chance that > the amd64 > implementant just plain sucks wind. If someone who > actually has an > amd64 build > could post some usage/load numbers, or someone who > did some testing > with > various hardware, that might be useful. So far what > we have is like a > bunch of > Mothers trying to defend their children without > having any viable > answers or > evidence than amd64 is any good at all. Only a > people who say > nonsensical > things like "my opteron blows away any P4", like a > kid bragging about > his > mustang or something. > > The em driver has a standard hold-off of 8000 > ints/second, so thats not > likely > the problem. Its likely to be the same in both i386 > and amd64, so its a > control. > > >   > So the whole interrupt/process switching mechanism > runs like crap with > the amd64 build? Since I don't have a amd64 system, > and you might hav > access to atleast 1, how about getting a little info > on the irqs? Look > at systat -vmstat or vmstat -i under load? aybe > report it back? I > wonder if the irq rates are changing, or irqs are > taking longer to > service. Either there is a problem. Ofcourse some > hardware info would > be nice, chipset and cpu? Maybe you script vmstat -i > for a log, and use > netperf too?   > I like Nick's followup. I would guese Boris may have > a problem with > proper hardware support. I can't really said it is > bad hardware if > speeds are the same, just high load(right?). Maybe > the driver he is > using is not good for 64bit as it is for 32bit?  >   > I think if Boris studies the thread I like to below > he will be alright. >   > Check this out:  > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/thrd66.html  > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200502171636.10361.drice  >   > Inparticular:  > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19651.html  > http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg19679.html  > _______________________________________________  > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list  > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions  > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"  > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:34:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAE016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ABF43D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 423F341DE; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40536410B for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:34:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:34:28 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Juszczak To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050324233017.C91334@neptune.atopia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Pico & Bash2 ports wont install, others also affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:34:29 -0000 I did the following steps today: Download 5.3-RELEASE iso from ftp.freebsd.org Installed from the ISO, standard install, kernel source, binaries, no games. rebooted, typed in my one page of stuff to make sshd key gen secure logged in as root did pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui did cvsup /etc/ports-supfile (which I created, used cvsup2.freebsd.org) did cd /usr/ports/editors/pico && make install ---- failed did cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 && make install ---- failed did cd /usr/ports/security/sudo && make install --- succeeded I described this because I wanted to let everyone know that this system is as base as it could be. I don't have anything installed on it yet. Here are some outputs: http://paste.atopia.net/108 --> make.conf http://paste.atopia.net/109 --> pico install http://paste.atopia.net/110 --> bash install http://paste.atopia.net/111 --> pkg list Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:43:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B5716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CCC43D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B474E5155B; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:43:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:43:22 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Juszczak Message-ID: <20050325044322.GA5270@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050324233017.C91334@neptune.atopia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050324233017.C91334@neptune.atopia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico & Bash2 ports wont install, others also affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:43:24 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 11:34:28PM -0500, Matt Juszczak wrote: > I did the following steps today: >=20 > Download 5.3-RELEASE iso from ftp.freebsd.org > Installed from the ISO, standard install, kernel source, binaries, no gam= es. > rebooted, typed in my one page of stuff to make sshd key gen secure > logged in as root > did pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui > did cvsup /etc/ports-supfile (which I created, used cvsup2.freebsd.org) > did cd /usr/ports/editors/pico && make install ---- failed > did cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 && make install ---- failed > did cd /usr/ports/security/sudo && make install --- succeeded >=20 >=20 > I described this because I wanted to let everyone know that this system i= s=20 > as base as it could be. I don't have anything installed on it yet. >=20 > Here are some outputs: >=20 > http://paste.atopia.net/108 --> make.conf > http://paste.atopia.net/109 --> pico install > http://paste.atopia.net/110 --> bash install=20 > http://paste.atopia.net/111 --> pkg list >=20 > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! The URLs appear to be uncorrelated with your annotations. Kris --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQ5bqWry0BWjoQKURAgeIAKDIxF6rZ8SUxe5z8UysH5J9JAE4lgCgqpOX 1PxszdU2d5nFoy7X2OaH4nI= =+VJR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:48:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBFF16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DFB43D5D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:48:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050325044807.GRQJ5402.mta11.adelphia.net@barbish>; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:48:07 -0500 From: To: "JP" , Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:48:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050324132957.86747.qmail@web81006.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: ppp.conf PPPoE Errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:48:08 -0000 You used outdated example for your for ppp.conf. Try this from http://freebsd.packards-home.net/Free_guide_index.html PPPoE, ppp.conf statements for DSL connection Edit the ppp.conf file and add the following so this is all that is in the file. Read the comments and do what they say. cd /etc/ppp/ # move into directory cp ppp.conf ppp.conf.org # Save copy of original ee ppp.conf # Edit file add following #################### start of DSL ppp.conf ################### default: set log Phase tun #use to avoid excessive log sizes set timeout 0 # no idle time out, will not disconnect dialisp: set device PPPoE:XXX # replace xxx with your NIC device name set authname YOURLOGINNAME # Replace with your ISP account username set authkey YOURPASSWORD # Replace with your ISP account password add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route (Mandatory) enable dns # Gets the ISP's DNS IP address & places them # in resolv.conf for reference by FBSD box. ############### End of DSL ppp.conf ################################# Replace the XXX in the [set device PPPoE:XXX] statement with the NIC's FBSD interface name. Sometimes it will be necessary to use a service tag to establish your connection depending on how your ISP and/or the phone company has its DSL network configured. Service tags are used to distinguish between different PPPoE servers attached to a given network. You should have been given any required service tag information in the documentation provided by your ISP. If you cannot locate it there, ask your ISP's tech support personnel. This is the format of the command with the service tag added: set device PPPoE:xxxx:service_tag The xxxx is the FBSD interface name used by PPPoE. The interface must be UP (IE: enabled). It is only used as a transport, and does not need to be assigned an IP address. This can be done automatically at boot time by updating the /etc/rc.conf file. The format of the statement to add is ifconfig_xxxx=up where xxxx is the NIC's FBSD interface name used by PPPoE that you specified in the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. ee /etc/rc.conf # add following statements ifconfig_xxxx=up ifconfig_tun0="DHCP" # get your ISP assigned IP address To setup user ppp to dial your ISP automatically at FBSD boot time, you have to add the following statements to the rc.conf file. The ddial option means to redial every time the connection to the ISP gets dropped. ee /etc/rc.conf # Activate user ppp auto start at boot time ppp_enable="YES" # Start User PPP task ppp_mode="ddial" # ddial, auto, background ppp_profile="dialisp" # section in ppp.conf to exec #ppp_nat="YES" # only if you have LAN behind this PC. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of JP Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:30 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp.conf PPPoE Errors Hello, I just recently set up ppp.conf for PPPoE DSL Service with SBC. I'm getting the following errors in my /var/log/ppp.log file, any idea what it means? I assume I need to disable IPV6 somehow but I don't know. Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, m Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: xxxxxx * Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS () Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network Mar 23 09:35:19 mcknytxhqfw01 ppp[483]: tun0: Phase: deflink: IPV6CP protocol reject closes IPV6CP ! Mar 23 09:49:20 last message repeated 15 times My ppp.conf file: default: set device PPPoE:ed0:SBCIS set mtu 1492 add default HISADDR set time 0 set redial 0 0 # NAT Config nat enable yes nat log yes nat same_ports yes nat unregistered_only yes enable dns SBCIS: set authname xxxxxx set authkey xxxxxx Thanks! JP _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 04:50:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A962116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:50:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E70E43D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72174116; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:50:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42439991.90801@atopia.net> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:54:41 -0500 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20050324233017.C91334@neptune.atopia.net> <20050325044322.GA5270@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050325044322.GA5270@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pico & Bash2 ports wont install, others also affected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:50:29 -0000 You are right. Here are the correct URL's: pkg_info ---> http://paste.atopia.net/108 pico install (ispell step) ---> http://paste.atopia.net/109 bash2 install --> http://paste.atopia.net/110 cat /etc/make.conf ---> http://paste.atopia.net/111 Those are correct. Any further ideas would help me greatly! Regards, Matt Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 11:34:28PM -0500, Matt Juszczak wrote: > > >>I did the following steps today: >> >>Download 5.3-RELEASE iso from ftp.freebsd.org >>Installed from the ISO, standard install, kernel source, binaries, no games. >>rebooted, typed in my one page of stuff to make sshd key gen secure >>logged in as root >>did pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui >>did cvsup /etc/ports-supfile (which I created, used cvsup2.freebsd.org) >>did cd /usr/ports/editors/pico && make install ---- failed >>did cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 && make install ---- failed >>did cd /usr/ports/security/sudo && make install --- succeeded >> >> >>I described this because I wanted to let everyone know that this system is >>as base as it could be. I don't have anything installed on it yet. >> >>Here are some outputs: >> >>http://paste.atopia.net/108 --> make.conf >>http://paste.atopia.net/109 --> pico install >>http://paste.atopia.net/110 --> bash install >>http://paste.atopia.net/111 --> pkg list >> >>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! >> >> > >The URLs appear to be uncorrelated with your annotations. > >Kris > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >!DSPAM:424396f4915261538227401! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 05:44:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E70816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:44:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8775843D55 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2P5iq2H027457 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:44:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2P5iquf027456 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:44:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:44:52 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20050325054452.GA27349@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community Subject: update on the dual-boot and newfs hassles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:44:43 -0000 People, I'm almost done with the installation on my test platform. The reason newfs was erroring was a WRITE err; I finally booted single-user and fsck's /usr, then tried the CD sysinstall for the Nth time N >=1, <= 70 :-| Everything worked; from there is was a matter of getting files in /etc set. For sure, the past few days have been a learning experience. Understanding how to partition the 4 slices is a major win. I have one question. Now when I boot I see F1: ??? F2 FreeBSD Can anybody tell me what to add to /boot (??) so the loader prints "DOS" instead of "???" If the sysinstall scripts recognize NTFS, what's wrong with the loader? thanks for the help, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:03:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BC616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:03:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7062343D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2P6310V019084; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:03:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4243ABDF.4060905@ec.rr.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:12:47 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John DeStefano References: <4242449E.5060709@ec.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_smbfs variable error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:03:05 -0000 John DeStefano wrote: >On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:39:58 -0500, jason henson wrote: > > >>John DeStefano wrote: >> >> >> >>>I get the following error when I try to mount_smbfs a LAN file share >>>as root with 5.3-RELEASE and a GENERIC kernel, both cvsup-ed and >>>compiled this past weekend: >>>/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: mount_smbfs: Undefined symbol "vfsisloadable" >>> >>>I can't find a whole lot of information about this error. But >>>apparently, "vfsisloadable" is an outdated parameter that should no >>>longer be referenced in the source. >>> >>>The only other reference I found to this error was a kernel that was >>>missing the proper support, but it seemed that a GENERIC kernel would >>>take care of that. >>> >>>Any ideas on how to verify that my system has got whatever mount_smbfs >>>may need to operate properly, or how to remedy the error? >>> >>>Thank you, >>>~John >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-04/0699.html >> >>Did you do a kldstat to see if smbfs.ko is there? It is no longer in >>GENERIC. >> >> >> >Hi Jason, > >I too found that link, which is where I got the idea that >"vfsisloadable" was an outdated parameter, but I saw that loading the >smb_fs module generated an error for that user, so I didn't follow up >on that information. > >I'm glad you pointed this out though, as loading the kernel module >works for me. > >But without your response, how would I ever have known this? It's >certainly not mentioned in UPDATING, and the error output was not >helpful. Where would I have found this information? > >Thanks, >~John >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I just found it with google by cutting and pasting. I then did some reading. I find the archive search at freebsd.org kind of sucks. You could also try google.com/bsd. This was also on the current mailing list. I was thinking about submitting something to the doc project about stuff I find, but in the past they have emailed me back showing me it was already in them(usaully in a faq). So I haven't sent to many new items to them. Also in the past I have done a diff between my kernel conf and GENERIC to see the changes between updates, but I have learned most of it well enough to spot most things now. I also don't build in anything I can load. I guess you would have never have know with out many hours of poking around your system, but thats what these lists are for right? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:16:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EA016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arwen.webrelay.net (arwen.webrelay.net [66.243.72.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC4B43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:16:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scion+fbsdq@webrelay.net) Received: from webrelay.net (gemini.webrelay.net [66.243.72.14]) by arwen.webrelay.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03512FC0F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:16:12 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: scion+fbsdq@webrelay.net Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:16:12 -0500 Message-Id: <20050325061612.F03512FC0F@arwen.webrelay.net> Subject: reading fdisk partitioned drives &ct from Sparc64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:16:14 -0000 Greetings, I'm trying to read data from a USB/Firewire drive. The drive was formatted on a WinXP system with an NTFS. I'm having numerous difficulties, and am wondering if I should just go and buy a cheap PC chassis before continuing. Problem one: Though (with usbd running) the kernel is aware of my USB card: ohci0: mem 0x4000-0x4fff at device 3.0 on pci2 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0 usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0x6000-0x6fff at device 3.1 on pci2 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0 usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0x8000-0x80ff at device 3.2 on pci2 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 usb2: EHCI version 0.95 usb2: companion controllers, 3 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered uhub2: device problem, disabling port 3 umass isn't firing up. umass will load (manually), but is not autoloaded, and no umass instance pops up in dmesg. # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 5 0xc0000000 4923e8 kernel 2 2 0xc0900000 140000 usb.ko 3 1 0xc0a4a000 10a000 umass.ko 4 1 0xc0b54000 10e000 ntfs.ko So, yank the usb cable, and install the firewire. This moves along... fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode fwohci0: txd err= 0 No stat firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) firewire0: New S400 device ID:0010b92100603efb da0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 50.000MB/s transfers da0: 194481MB (398297088 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 24792C) Cool, so now I've a disk. But that doesn't really help... # ls /dev/da* /dev/da0 Nothing that would look like something to mount. And indeed, # mount_ntfs -o ro /dev/da0 /mnt mount_ntfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument Am I just barking up the wrong tree, here. Does the endian issue preclude the da driver from seeing fdisk-style partitions on Sparc64? If not, what might help mount_ntfs see a device. Then again, do endian issues preclude ntfs from operating on Sparc64? And lastly, referring to all of those USB devices referenced at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-i386.html#USB and their absence at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-sparc64.html#USB Do they really not work on Sparc64, or just haven't been tested? Cheers! -sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:29:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0453716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887FF43D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:29:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2P6T30V029734; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:29:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4243B1FA.6000509@ec.rr.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:38:50 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John DeStefano References: <4242449E.5060709@ec.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_smbfs variable error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:29:07 -0000 John DeStefano wrote: >On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:47:44 -0500, John DeStefano > wrote: > > >>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:39:58 -0500, jason henson wrote: >> >> >>>John DeStefano wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I get the following error when I try to mount_smbfs a LAN file share >>>>as root with 5.3-RELEASE and a GENERIC kernel, both cvsup-ed and >>>>compiled this past weekend: >>>>/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: mount_smbfs: Undefined symbol "vfsisloadable" >>>> >>>>I can't find a whole lot of information about this error. But >>>>apparently, "vfsisloadable" is an outdated parameter that should no >>>>longer be referenced in the source. >>>> >>>>The only other reference I found to this error was a kernel that was >>>>missing the proper support, but it seemed that a GENERIC kernel would >>>>take care of that. >>>> >>>>Any ideas on how to verify that my system has got whatever mount_smbfs >>>>may need to operate properly, or how to remedy the error? >>>> >>>>Thank you, >>>>~John >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2004-04/0699.html >>> >>>Did you do a kldstat to see if smbfs.ko is there? It is no longer in >>>GENERIC. >>> >>> >>> >>Hi Jason, >> >>I too found that link, which is where I got the idea that >>"vfsisloadable" was an outdated parameter, but I saw that loading the >>smb_fs module generated an error for that user, so I didn't follow up >>on that information. >> >>I'm glad you pointed this out though, as loading the kernel module >>works for me. >> >>But without your response, how would I ever have known this? It's >>certainly not mentioned in UPDATING, and the error output was not >>helpful. Where would I have found this information? >> >>Thanks, >>~John >> >> >> > >Could someone please direct me to where I can read about when and why >the smbfs module was removed from the GENERIC kernel? I can't find >it, and it's not in UPDATING or the release notes. > >Thanks. > > > My mistake, it was never in GENERIC. Or I can't find were it was. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:36:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969CA16A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CFB43D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2P6a6Lv001643; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:36:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4243B3A1.80600@ec.rr.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:45:53 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T.F. Cheng" References: <20050325021537.19443.qmail@web51008.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050325021537.19443.qmail@web51008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: remove all xfce4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:36:10 -0000 T.F. Cheng wrote: >yo! trying to remove all the xfce4 components so I can >rebuild it. I pkg_delete each individual *xfce* >package manually (probably a bad idea). But anyhow, I >can still find a lot of xfce4 app under >/usr/local/bin, this interfere with the rebuild >process since it think something is already there. >Anything I can do? thansk a lot!! > > >Best Regards, > >Tsu-Fan Cheng > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >登記å…費的 @yahoo.com 中文電å­éƒµä»¶ @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > portupgrade -faRr, or portmanager. Try cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && make all-depends-list. You don't need to rebuild unless you have upgraded a dependancy(then portupgrade or portmanager will do it for you) or you want to change build options(then portupgrade will do it). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:37:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC8016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:37:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5B443D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (cpe-065-184-201-054.ec.rr.com [65.184.201.54]) j2P6bnY4006296; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:37:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4243B407.7000803@ec.rr.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:47:35 -0500 From: jason henson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050321) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsdzz References: <4243759A.4030404@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4243759A.4030404@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:37:52 -0000 bsdzz wrote: > I have a bunch of 'windows meta file' clipart images I want to browse, > is there a browser that will let me browse them? I can't find > anything in /usr/ports or by googling 'freebsd view wmf'. All I see is > a wmf library. > > thx! > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Search freshports.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:38:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C53716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:38:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C658243D5A for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:38:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b143.otenet.gr [212.205.244.151]) j2P6brfe017678; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:37:57 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2P6cQGB082867; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:38:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2ONcHo6022167; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:38:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:38:16 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Osmany Guirola Cruz Message-ID: <20050324233816.GA21885@gothmog.gr> References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:38:49 -0000 On 2005-03-24 17:00, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > Hi people > > I am learning in the use of cvs for sync my src and ports i use this > command line and works perfectly > > # cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src > > but this line update my source tree with the current version 6.0 True. > but i don't want this version then i do this > > # cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -rRELENG_5 src > > and get this error > cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: > Permission denied Use the -R option of cvs (read-only repository): # CVSROOT='freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs' # export CVSROOT # cvs -R co -rRELENG_5 src From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 06:47:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8683E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:47:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B27A43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:47:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b143.otenet.gr [212.205.244.151]) j2P6l1CK030244; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:47:02 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2P6lZnI082934; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:47:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2P6lZKF082933; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:47:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:47:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <20050325064734.GA82858@gothmog.gr> References: <20050325035303.41290.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050325035303.41290.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:47:43 -0000 On 2005-03-24 19:53, Jonathan Stewart wrote: >--- Dan Nelson wrote: >>In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: >>> In that case how would I track how much information a process has >>> actually read from a drive? I occasionally run processes that >>> will read as much as 40+ gig in a single run which takes quite a >>> while and on windows :P I can see "bytes read" and "bytes written" >>> per process which lets me track how much the program has read so >>> far and thus get an idea of how close it is to done. Sorry for >>> the run-on sentence there. >> >> I use lsof, which can tell you the file offset of each open >> filedescriptor. "lsof -o -o20 -p ###" will print all the files >> currently opened by pid ###, and their current offset. > > Hmm, that almost works but the program opens 1000's of files each > time. The program is Unison which is a file synchronizer and I have > it synchronizing files sets >40GB with and 1000's or more files. > Based on your description once the file is closed I can't even tell if > it was read or not :P So, what you are looking for is a single byte count that increases sequentially for all read() and write() system calls? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 07:13:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308C016A4D6 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:13:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A75243D92 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:13:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Mar 2005 07:13:38 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 08:13:38 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:13:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart7088050.vtmYzkemRD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503250813.17984@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: quick timestamp question (ctime/mtime) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:13:45 -0000 --nextPart7088050.vtmYzkemRD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, is it possible that mtime of a file can be changed without also changing=20 ctime? Vice versa is easy, chmod or similar will do that. But if I change=20 mtime with touch, also ctime gets changed. I ask because I'm about writing a little backup script and want to be sure = to=20 capture every file on any imaginable modification when comparing only ctime! 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:28:43 -0000 i install Freebsd 5.3 full install , installed everything on the 1 CD , bt now when i try to configure X windows by running XF86Setup , the file is no where to be found also xf86config is not found ? what can be wrong , & how can i setup my X windows now ? thanks *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ God is the Greatest __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Processed in 2.131088 secs); 25 Mar 2005 07:35:04 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN-Mail-From: bsd@bathnetworks.com via lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk X-Antivirus-MYDOMAIN: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(84.92.24.252):SA:0(-1.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.131088 secs Process 29086) Received: from mail.bathnetworks.com (HELO ?84.92.24.252?) (bsd@bathnetworks.com@84.92.24.252) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 07:35:02 +0000 From: Robert Slade To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20050325072841.1287.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050325072841.1287.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1111736101.28727.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:35:02 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: XF86Setup files missing ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:34:05 -0000 On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 07:28, faisal gillani wrote: > i install Freebsd 5.3 full install , installed > everything on the 1 CD , bt now when i try to > configure X windows by running XF86Setup , the file is > no where to be found also xf86config is not found ? > what can be wrong , & how can i setup my X windows now > ? > > > thanks > > > *., ,.** Allah-hu-Akber*., ,.** > God is the Greatest > Try Xorg -configure see the manual http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 07:54:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:54:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nexband.com (valinux.intop.net [206.156.254.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAE943D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:54:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alias3@crotchett.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (208-149-64-30.adsl.nexband.com [208.149.64.30]) by smtp.nexband.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2P7savW001854 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:54:37 -0600 Message-ID: <4243C3BB.8050205@crotchett.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:54:35 -0600 From: backdoc User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1735169762.20050324050924@wanadoo.fr> <42426471.9040007@northglobe.com> <154939230.20050324195513@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <154939230.20050324195513@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What's an easy way to replace a drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:54:38 -0000 I replaced my HD once or twice. I documented the process the last time I did it. http://www.usmstudent.com/HOWTO/how_i_replaced_my_FreeBSD_HD.txt Darren Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Nicholas Basila writes: > > >>You can back up to tape and restore in single user mode. If /var and >>/tmp aren't too big, you could boot into single user mode, >>mount /usr >>mount -r /var (just to be safe) >>mount -r /tmp > > >>and create tar balls or even use dump to file (use the device in /dev as >>source, of course) with /var and /tmp unmounted. > > >>Then, reboot into single user mode with the new disk, set up the disk >>the way you want it with fdisk and bsdlabel, and then untar or restore >>from dump. > > > Can I boot from the FreeBSD boot CD and avoid mounting anything on any > of the hard drives at all? (That's not a problem in this case, since the > root is on a different drive, but if I ever had to replace the drive > containing the root I'm just wondering how to go about it.) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 08:14:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CDD16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CCE43D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so709634wri for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OzycSjtN/5JGA/02YwB9Dx1uqe3gIBgEt150c9HIgXUnLJ6RBnj3ftxwHCR3doGPwKTQ9JJMJ2KvzMDNteDL2dN6G8oLmNkVUGTg/6U/ZyiA0AIrj13Brr3yURC1pToBz1etYG7t9upVLBaSZl4/TSAv/YsfiyWykhB65o74Zz0= Received: by 10.54.8.66 with SMTP id 66mr87058wrh; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.21 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80b681a505032500145b5dd8cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:14:02 +0800 From: Ann Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boot Error and stop at : plip0: on ppbus0 -> FreeBSD v4.8 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ann Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:04 -0000 Hi All, When I try to boot from CD-ROM to install my FreeBSD 4.8 i386 my computer stops to work. I do: 1) Booting from CD-ROM 2) Skip kernel configuration. 3) Then I see: [...something before...] ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 [That is all. Now he stops.] I have: SATA Hard Disk Ultra ATA Storage Controller - Onboard Intel Pro100MT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - Onboard Any idea? Cheers, Ann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 08:20:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9372116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:20:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974FA43D53 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:20:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jumbler.chi@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so428849wri for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:20:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=m4sHhX73c9y12pFoVjzS2sBS/ah+7aOaXVuBe8Z9+RaXZRgXRo55LYCqv0z5TBMMQLTuM7HUKJ3AslwB5amBMbWpUmoXTaEVsN5MywN/ThBsVmTB39QgjW262l2F9O1Y7ku1vGLUe9I2NBDIvHsb/+Cmltqmtj/hyiKNaR2cC70= Received: by 10.54.19.2 with SMTP id 2mr53914wrs; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.19.14 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:20:02 +0800 From: jumbler chi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Cannot build picobsd under X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jumbler chi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:20:04 -0000 Hi : My box is FreeBSD 5.2-R PICOBSD is interesting to me. I cvsup all source code , and create a picobsd image via picobsd command. but when it run to link kernel , it raised some error as following. what's matter ?! Does anyone can share the expeirence ?! regards! Jumbler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh PICOBSD cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstric t-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fforma t-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath -I/usr /src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-align- long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Werror vers.c linking kernel init_main.o: In function `proc0_init': init_main.o(.text+0x2b9): undefined reference to `kse0_sched' init_main.o(.text+0x2c3): undefined reference to `ksegrp0_sched' init_main.o(.text+0x2cd): undefined reference to `proc0_sched' init_main.o(.text+0x2d7): undefined reference to `thread0_sched' kern_clock.o: In function `statclock': kern_clock.o(.text+0x714): undefined reference to `sched_clock' kern_condvar.o: In function `cv_wait': kern_condvar.o(.text+0x1ad): undefined reference to `sched_sleep' kern_condvar.o: In function `cv_wait_sig': kern_condvar.o(.text+0x457): undefined reference to `sched_sleep' kern_condvar.o: In function `cv_timedwait': kern_condvar.o(.text+0xadd): undefined reference to `sched_sleep' kern_condvar.o: In function `cv_timedwait_sig': kern_condvar.o(.text+0xe27): undefined reference to `sched_sleep' kern_exit.o: In function `exit1': kern_exit.o(.text+0x14ae): undefined reference to `sched_exit' kern_fork.o: In function `fork1': kern_fork.o(.text+0xd74): undefined reference to `sched_fork' kern_idle.o: In function `idle_proc': kern_idle.o(.text+0x1f1): undefined reference to `sched_runnable' kern_thr.o: In function `thr_exit1': kern_thr.o(.text+0xe8): undefined reference to `sched_exit_kse' kern_thr.o(.text+0x17b): undefined reference to `sched_exit_thread' kern_thr.o: In function `thr_create': kern_thr.o(.text+0x461): undefined reference to `sched_fork_kse' kern_thr.o(.text+0x473): undefined reference to `sched_fork_thread' kern_proc.o: In function `procinit': kern_proc.o(.text+0xf1): undefined reference to `sched_sizeof_proc' kern_proc.o: In function `fill_kinfo_thread': kern_proc.o(.text+0x16b0): undefined reference to `sched_pctcpu' kern_resource.o: In function `donice': kern_resource.o(.text+0x9a8): undefined reference to `sched_nice' kern_resource.o: In function `rtp_to_pri': kern_resource.o(.text+0xd75): undefined reference to `sched_class' kern_resource.o(.text+0xda8): undefined reference to `sched_prio' kern_subr.o: In function `uio_yield': kern_subr.o(.text+0x623): undefined reference to `sched_prio' kern_switch.o: In function `choosethread': kern_switch.o(.text+0x11): undefined reference to `sched_choose' kern_switch.o: In function `kse_reassign': kern_switch.o(.text+0x101): undefined reference to `sched_add' kern_switch.o: In function `adjustrunqueue': kern_switch.o(.text+0x18f): undefined reference to `sched_rem' kern_switch.o(.text+0x197): undefined reference to `sched_add' kern_switch.o(.text+0x1d4): undefined reference to `sched_rem' kern_switch.o: In function `setrunqueue': kern_switch.o(.text+0x2b8): undefined reference to `sched_rem' kern_switch.o(.text+0x390): undefined reference to `sched_add' kern_synch.o: In function `msleep': kern_synch.o(.text+0x55c): undefined reference to `sched_sleep' kern_synch.o: In function `mi_switch': kern_synch.o(.text+0xe57): undefined reference to `sched_switch' kern_synch.o: In function `setrunnable': kern_synch.o(.text+0xf26): undefined reference to `sched_wakeup' kern_synch.o: In function `yield': kern_synch.o(.text+0x1184): undefined reference to `sched_prio' kern_thread.o: In function `kse_create': kern_thread.o(.text+0x158d): undefined reference to `sched_fork_ksegrp' kern_thread.o(.text+0x16ed): undefined reference to `sched_fork_kse' kern_thread.o: In function `threadinit': kern_thread.o(.text+0x1ad7): undefined reference to `sched_sizeof_thread' kern_thread.o(.text+0x1b21): undefined reference to `sched_sizeof_ksegrp' kern_thread.o(.text+0x1b6b): undefined reference to `sched_sizeof_kse' kern_thread.o: In function `thread_exit': kern_thread.o(.text+0x2ceb): undefined reference to `sched_exit_thread' kern_thread.o(.text+0x2cfd): undefined reference to `sched_exit_kse' kern_thread.o(.text+0x2d31): undefined reference to `sched_exit_ksegrp' kern_thread.o: In function `thread_schedule_upcall': kern_thread.o(.text+0x3223): undefined reference to `sched_fork_thread' subr_trap.o: In function `userret': subr_trap.o(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `sched_userret' subr_trap.o: In function `ast': subr_trap.o(.text+0x6bf): undefined reference to `sched_prio' subr_turnstile.o: In function `propagate_priority': subr_turnstile.o(.text+0x68): undefined reference to `sched_prio' vm_zeroidle.o: In function `vm_pagezero': vm_zeroidle.o(.text+0x41d): undefined reference to `sched_runnable' vm_pageout.o: In function `vm_pageout_scan': vm_pageout.o(.text+0x1bc4): undefined reference to `sched_nice' machdep.o: In function `cpu_idle': machdep.o(.text+0x106e): undefined reference to `sched_runnable' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/picobsd/net/build_dir-net/PICOBSD-net. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/picobsd/net. ---> fail: Error <1> error code in <> Error: you must build PICOBSD kernel first ---> Aborting /usr/local/bin/picobsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 08:24:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1E816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:24:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EEE43D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123340CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:24:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4243CBC7.7030001@atopia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:28:55 -0500 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xfce4 error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:24:43 -0000 Installed xorg and xfce4 .... Then I get the following. Any ideas? Thank you! -Matt ---snip--- heather$ startxfce4 /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4: Starting X server X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] Current Operating System: FreeBSD heather 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 25 March 2005 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 25 03:26:15 2005 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" xscreensaver: not found Agent pid 18253 ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): CRITICAL **: find_master: assertion `mixer_handle != -1' failed ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): WARNING **: oss: No master volume _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.ICE-unix will not be created. _IceTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.ICE-unix) failed, errno = 2 _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local xfce4-session: Unable to establish ICE listeners: Cannot establish any listening sockets Agent pid 18253 killed waiting for X server to shut down The application 'xfce-mcs-manager' lost its connection to the display :0.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 08:33:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB3B16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:33:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web54002.mail.yahoo.com (web54002.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C01B943D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 79513 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 08:33:45 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=h+Avur+sq3jen2yt17zWeQrf8QQX6DLFISyT6bSFZkg9gPAepogzlMSyfMGeuX1cwz3UHDsXwYOmCuNQWa69+R2R4YTxECNnqK9jiiCCcbsX45IeCxhmP92sX4HPqRn/JLc2mE20MTFUAKdrMKITDnC4EOwHTVvxwccB5zP7tQg= ; Message-ID: <20050325083345.79511.qmail@web54002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.46.44.181] by web54002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:33:45 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:33:45 -0800 (PST) From: Rob To: FreeBSD questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: matt@atopia.net Subject: Re: xfce4 error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:33:46 -0000 Matt Juszczak wrote: > Installed xorg and xfce4 .... > > Then I get the following. Any ideas? Thank you! [...cut...] > _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory > /tmp/.ICE-unix will not be > created. You either need to update your system to get the newer /etc/rc.d/cleartmp, or do manually what is done in there at the bottom of the script: x11_socket_dirs="/tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix \ /tmp/.font-unix /tmp/.XIM-unix" # Create socket directories with correct permissions # to avoid security problem. rm -fr ${x11_socket_dirs} mkdir -m 1777 ${x11_socket_dirs} --- Rob. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 08:35:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2AD16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brugere.aub.dk (mail.aub.dk [195.24.1.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB3B43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:35:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmp.lists@alvorlig.dk) Received: by brugere.aub.dk (Postfix, from userid 1693) id 6185DC43B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.4.50] (jmp.aub.dk [10.1.4.50]) by brugere.aub.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BA5C42B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4243CD38.5010702@alvorlig.dk> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:04 +0100 From: "J. Martin Petersen" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Juszczak References: <4243CBC7.7030001@atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <4243CBC7.7030001@atopia.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:35:10 -0000 Matt Juszczak wrote: > Installed xorg and xfce4 .... > > Then I get the following. Any ideas? Thank you! > > -Matt > > ---snip--- > > heather$ startxfce4 > /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4: Starting X server > > > X Window System Version 6.8.2 > Release Date: 9 February 2005 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] > Current Operating System: FreeBSD heather 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD > 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 > root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Build Date: 25 March 2005 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 25 03:26:15 2005 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" > xscreensaver: not found > Agent pid 18253 > > ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): CRITICAL **: find_master: assertion > `mixer_handle != -1' failed > > ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): WARNING **: oss: No master volume > _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.ICE-unix will not be > created. > _IceTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.ICE-unix) failed, errno = 2 > _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local > xfce4-session: Unable to establish ICE listeners: Cannot establish any > listening sockets > Agent pid 18253 killed > > waiting for X server to shut down The application 'xfce-mcs-manager' > lost its connection to the display :0.0; > most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed > the application. Maybe the following from /usr/ports/UPDATING can help? |20050126: | AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4 | AUTHOR: oliver@FreeBSD.org | | If you use Xorg 6.8.1: Make shure there is an /tmp/.ICE-unix with | propper rights. For further informations about that, please refer to | 2004122 | Please update all your plugins as well when you update from 4.0.6 to | 4.2. They all need recompiling to link against the new xfce libraries Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 09:28:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6553216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C35943D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2P9SQM4010349 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:27 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <4243342C.50809@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4243342C.50809@eng.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1111742906.756.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:41 -0000 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 16:42 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > Peter Risdon wrote: > > > >I have no idea why you're trying to misrepresent what I was saying. It's > >starting to feel mildly bizarre. > > > >Peter. > > > I am not trying to misrepresent anything, and I don't believe that I am. > > From your initial posting: > > > Perhaps, though I'm not sure myself what is said in Russian to them > > whereas I can read the French. But the reply in, I think, Swedish to > > this question in French was a very good indication of what an impossible > > babel this or any other list would be if a single language were not > > declared and respected. Reading this again, it seems completely reasonable and obvious. I'm very happy to stand by it. > > > > Peter > > If you were not saying that -questions should be an English-only list, then > which "single language" were you referring to? The single language I referred to is of course English. But, my obtuse friend, that's not the point at issue. It's the words *should be* and *English-only* in your question. These are not my words but that doesn't stop you trying to put them into my mouth. The simple fact is that -questions _is_ an English language, as opposed to an English-only, list (see below). You haven't noticed that? Hmmm... Try reading the etiquette guide I quoted, from the FreeBSD website (-questions is English in theory), and count the percentage of postings in English, which is well above 99% (and English in practice). This is pretty obvious stuff, Bob. But people sometimes post in other languages and then other people try to help them, including me if I feel competent. And that's great. > How can I interpret your statement above to mean anything other than > that you believe this should be an English-only list? By reading it in a straightforward way and not trying to distort it for your own, unfathomable, purposes. > Are you arguing > that "declaring and respecting" a single language is not the same as > prohibiting other languages? At last! That's right. This has absolutely nothing to do with prohibition. Prohibition is imposed , respect is self-imposed. Again, pretty obvious stuff. People _are_ asked, politely, ("declaring") by FreeBSD.org, on their website, in the bit about mailing lists, to use an appropriate language for lists and it's entirely clear they mean English unless otherwise stated. I've quoted this to you since and I echoed it when someone seemed to be calling for a _CHANGE_ in policy. I've already made that perfectly clear [1]. I think the guidance on the website should be borne in mind by list subscribers ("respecting"). That's why I say you are trying to misrepresent what I said. A list moderator might prohibit non-English posts and that would create an *English-only* list. I am absolutely not calling for that. By contrast, individual posters might respect guidelines and in this context that would make for an *English language* list. Nothing authoritarian, just a guideline that people respect of their own volition. There's nothing new about this idea - respecting guidelines is a normal part of netiquette. Now, remember that "declare" and "respect" were the words I used in my initial posting, and you have demonstrated this by quoting them for me, above. They have been there all along, clearly, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the sort of authoritarianism you seem determined to try to contrive from my words. To repeat myself one last time, I was DISAGREEING with SOMEBODY ELSE who seemed to be CALLING FOR A CHANGE. You are stating, falsely, that I called for a change, then disagreeing with the change you are falsely claiming I advocate. How pointless can you get? This is already repetitious and must be deeply tedious to other subscribers by now. I attempted, in my last post, to agree to disagree in a friendly way with you. After all, we've both said our piece and they are in the archives if anyone ever gives a damn. You have chosen to ignore that amicable overture. So I am going to spare subscribers the tedium of any further posts to this thread. Peter. [1] From an earlier post: On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 12:49 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > > > > There is no call to splinter into many languages. *sigh* The starting point for this was a post which seemed to me to be doing just that. If you interpret that posting differently, and you haven't said whether you do, then that's our point of difference. Perhaps I misread the OP, in which case there's nothing to discuss and everything's fine and dandy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 09:33:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2E116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from weller-fahy.com (pD9FFF08E.dip.t-dialin.net [217.255.240.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EDA43D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave-lists-freebsd-questions@weller-fahy.com) Received: (qmail 28709 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2005 09:33:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:30 +0100 From: "David J. Weller-Fahy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325093308.GB10950@weller-fahy.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050323193626.GH7474@weller-fahy.com> <20050323193716.GI7474@weller-fahy.com> <4241EDB9.5000107@toldme.com> <20050323223723.GC75716@weller-fahy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050323223723.GC75716@weller-fahy.com> X-URL-Me: http://weller-fahy.com X-Accept-Language: en X-Location: Germany, Gangelt, Hof Grootfeld User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Scripting oddness (sh) - SOLVED (kind of) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:33:45 -0000 After some experimenting I believe that I've discovered how to fix the problem, and the reason for it - I'd been thinking of the '&&' shortcut as functionally identical to the if-then-fi construct. That's obviously (now ;) not the case. If, as in the previous message, the following '&&' shortcut is used: #v+ [ -z "$RB_TEMP" ] && PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" #v- Then, if RB_TEMP is not of zero length, the exit status of that command is one. Since that command is the last performed in the list_required_by function, the exit status of the function is one. Because I used 'set -e' at the top of the script, any command (a function being a complex command) that exits with a value of one halts the execution of the script. However, if we change that line to: #v+ if [ -z "$RB_TEMP" ] ; then PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" fi #v- Then, following the fi, the exit status is zero for both the command and the function, and all following commands are executed. The following also works: #v+ [ ! -z "$RB_TEMP" ] || PKGLIST="$PKGLIST $PKG" #v- Because the exit status of the first command on the line is zero if RB_TEMP is not zero length. So, there's a fix for it. Figured I'd post this FTR, just in case someone else has a lack of brain bytes similar to mine. ;] Regards, -- dave [ please don't CC me ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 10:23:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF9E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:23:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B6943D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:23:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2PANmb47849 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:23:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:23:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <1074993623.20050324195325@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:23:37 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Chris writes: > >> Your legacy hardware finally gave up the ghost... > > Uh, no. The production server is about 90 days old, and state of the > art. The drives are brand new. That is right around the time that brand new drives fail, if they are going to, that is. Modern drives with the exception of high end SCSI ones, are as a friend of mine put it once: "slapped together a million miles a second on the assembly line" Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 10:36:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9EF16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A70A43D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greg@warprecords.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: greg@warprecords.com X-Msg-Ref: server-29.tower-9.messagelabs.com!1111746989!13744993!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.11; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [212.135.210.82] Received: (qmail 18692 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 10:36:29 -0000 Received: from dsl-212-135-210-82.dsl.easynet.co.uk (HELO warprecords.com) (212.135.210.82) by server-29.tower-9.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 10:36:29 -0000 Received: from [192.168.100.39] (HELO [192.168.0.3]) by warprecords.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 4029045 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Greg Eden Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:33:47 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: FreeBSD 5.3R SMP Kernel not detecting 2nd CPU in a HP DL360 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:32 -0000 Hello All, I have a co-located HP DL360G3 server to which I do not have physical access. It has 2 x 2.8GHz Xeon CPUs with HTT. One of the ISP's engineers has confirmed that both CPUs are detected when the BIOS POSTs. I have cvsup'd to the latest 5.3R security release and successfully built 'world', something I have done successfully many times with 4.x releases, using the instructions from the handbook. I used a custom kernel configuration which included options SMP and device apic. On reboot dmesg confirmed that the custom kernel was used, however SMP was not active and the additional CPUs were not launched. Thinking that perhaps my custom kernel conf was at fault, I compiled a GENERIC smp kernel with: # cd /usr/obj # chflags -R noschg * # rm -rf * /usr/src/# make buildkernel KERNCONF=SMP /usr/src/# make installkernel KERNCONF=SMP After reboot the dmesg output is as follows: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Thu Mar 24 14:37:29 GMT 2005 greg@[snip].warprecords.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.22-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebf9ff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147459072 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095996928 (1998 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x920-0x923 on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 ACPI link \\_SB_.IN31 has invalid initial irq 3, ignoring pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) ciss0: port 0x2800-0x28ff mem 0xf5df0000-0xf5df3fff,0xf5f80000-0xf5fbffff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pci0: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 5.2 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2000-0x200f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xf5e70000-0xf5e70fff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 bge0: mem 0xf7ef0000-0xf7efffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci1 miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:11:85:6b:07:d8 pcib2: on acpi0 pci4: on pcib2 bge1: mem 0xf7ff0000-0xf7ffffff irq 15 at device 2.0 on pci4 miibus1: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:11:85:6b:07:db atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 orm0: at iomem 0xee000-0xeffff,0xcc000-0xcd7ff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2799224924 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 69459MB (142253280 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 17433C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a and ~> sysctl kern.smp.active kern.smp.active: 0 I just don't understand why the kernel isn't running SMP. To my mind it's either something in my method (most likely), a hardware problem, or something odd in the way 5.3R detects the CPUs on the hardware. I have successfully compiled SMP kernels on identical hardware with FreeBSD 4.8R. With the HTT 4 CPUs are launched as they should be here. Now I think about it I have another machine, a HP DL380 with a single HTT Xeon processor, which is displaying the same problem. Thanks in advance. greg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 10:46:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779E416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:46:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blueserver.treelogix.com (ns1.treelogix.com [62.2.231.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FA543D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:46:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from warfox@neobe.it) Received: from [192.168.168.33] (unverified [62.2.231.28]) by blueserver.treelogix.com for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:49:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4243EBDB.4030805@neobe.it> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:45:47 +0100 From: Alberto User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Compaq DL 320... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:46:16 -0000 Hi all, is there a way to slow down system fans in an HP DL 320 with BSD 5.3? Perhaps using hpasm driver and linux emulation? any help will be apreciated. Thanks Alberto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 10:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1663A16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF44B43D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfreak@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so579926rnz for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:48:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LR1Z5UuqBy/YZOqockw6ih0i2kX3F8Kq06Bc4a65Qs7B3FSdv2nzAdaweAhQcLpfOte3hco1/81ORR4FwieOjtLDS98c48rJfUlN+1FkdgTYfiJTGUG2Rht8KDBN0E7M4LKuq/EfkitlaOu/BrOlFMhTvKYPSYtWsoVKCNJfPSY= Received: by 10.38.206.58 with SMTP id d58mr2672218rng; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.179.44 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:48:25 -0500 From: Alexander Chamandy To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1074993623.20050324195325@wanadoo.fr> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexander Chamandy List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:48:26 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:23:36 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > > Chris writes: > > > >> Your legacy hardware finally gave up the ghost... > > > > Uh, no. The production server is about 90 days old, and state of the > > art. The drives are brand new. > > That is right around the time that brand new drives fail, if they are > going to, that is. > > Modern drives with the exception of high end SCSI ones, are as a friend > of > mine put it once: "slapped together a million miles a second on the > assembly line" > > Ted Typically when there's an SSH password delay issue in authentication it has to do with the name resolution. Check your /etc/resolv.conf -- it may be your name servers that are responding slowly or if the hosts do not reverse, that may be it as well. Anyway, just a hunch, I've had that happen to me before. -- Best wishes, Alexander G. Chamandy Webmaster www.bsdfreak.org Your Source For BSD News! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 11:19:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51302.mail.yahoo.com (web51302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EEA343D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcpaq2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30130 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 11:18:59 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=yADD5s3Bpn0eG7KSKgm7QOdL6E3vQmsW+Dc0+Ei0BgfNwZgw/smelIDoSkgfIM2qvIewZ4NLX/kwRSktErBnPRjlSz9g+7ZNT955Xoy//oEBuOyvnntB15GCcwLgARrSbgCG3hVHxL+VnvDyrzgZQx4H8dnkrqBtzEtrpxvmmqc= ; Message-ID: <20050325111859.30128.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.75.60.45] by web51302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:18:59 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 03:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Paquette To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Compaq DL 320... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:19:00 -0000 How about with the HP DL380 as well? Doug ---------------------------------------------------- --- Alberto wrote: > Hi all, is there a way to slow down system fans in > an HP DL 320 with BSD > 5.3? > Perhaps using hpasm driver and linux emulation? > > any help will be apreciated. > Thanks > Alberto > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 11:58:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BF816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp100.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp100.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [216.136.174.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A06143D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas_wieland@yahoo.it) Received: from unknown (HELO pixie.subbacultcha.home) (nicholas?wieland@81.211.210.24 with login) by smtp100.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 11:58:57 -0000 Received: by pixie.subbacultcha.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A584A6157; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:00:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:00:30 +0100 From: Nicholas Wieland To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325120030.GA33200@pixie.subbacultcha.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5 X-Crypto: GnuPG/1.4.0 http://www.gnupg.org/ X-GPG-Key-ID: 0DAA3925 X-GPG-Fingerprint: D3C2 DB93 DF6A 601B A32B CEB1 4020 7E71 0DAA 3925 Subject: Splitting linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicholas Wieland List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:58 -0000 I've installed www/linuxpluginwrapper to enable Flash inside my browser, but I don't really need all the stuff it installs (for example acrobat reader) and I'd like to remove it. I've tried manually with pkg_deinstall, but now flash doesn't work anymore (and I see with pkg_info that it's installed), so obviously linuxpluginwrapper isn't a meta-port, but actually a package. What do I have to do in order to have just flash without Real and Acrobat Reader ? TIA, ngw -- checking for life_signs in -lKenny... no Oh my god, make (1) killed Kenny ! You, bastards ! nicholas_wieland-at-yahoo-dot-it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:09:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C819F16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1B943D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:09:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so786824rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:09:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KVTFQO9xodUEZHBbV/vqSgkfo6brTuQg63ZTsvf5BhiovozOJZTEgv0VUyRRT8KlT0KZh8Hgzp1/Cw5pxxcLgNVt9w0FdS553VhUEnBD9Vhhmah2a9Y668evG1CMiSygh+v7kX76HMAY3+XhxvLDLGP+5mzQSBoIlb85+vW+tvc= Received: by 10.38.207.57 with SMTP id e57mr7126rng; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:09:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:09:52 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Frank Staals In-Reply-To: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:09:53 -0000 On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:43:44 +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 24), Gert Cuykens said: > Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time on the > same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? Please dont answer emac or vi > they are not made for teletubies :( I like the ee or mc editor but i dont > think mc editor can open two files at the same time/ Try editors/joe-devel > (which should probably be renamed to plain editors/joe) Jep joe is realy > cool, its my default text-editor and it can be used in a split-screen mode. > > you should probably get used to the commands you can use, first ctrl+ k > seems a litle weird but when you get used to it it realy rules ( in fact > when I'm working at school in word or notepad and I want to save my stuff I > automatically do ctrl + k + d ) :D > > ctrl + k rules after you get used to it > > Good Luck > > Frank Staals > Yep joe looks great. But i dont understand why they use ^K so much ? What is the logic behind ^K what does K stand for ? I would understand ^J on all the special joe key bindings but ^K ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:18:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4EC16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:18:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847F143D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so735121wri for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:18:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WIFyyr9QeJeOJj3xPt6c+fCej454kl/0yvqM54j8t/cF7ENQ2Ng9GXwAGp4DbMtO8jeETUYpT8AJK8kCSkSfCBvFo9IvADYqNsvy0i1vF/07lMj7rJ+wvCohLFE9EsqKZpFEDMKoBtkyXNIArq/3YA68HKf7GT9lnEgY5mLpZps= Received: by 10.54.46.49 with SMTP id t49mr207131wrt; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.22 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:18:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <126eac4805032504182716bfc4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:18:38 +0100 From: Josh Ockert To: Peter Risdon In-Reply-To: <1111742906.756.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4243342C.50809@eng.ufl.edu> <1111742906.756.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:18:40 -0000 Good God this is all non-sensical. Peter, there is absolutely nothing to give the impression that questions is meant to be entirely, exclusively, or even primarily English-language list. Consider the following: 1) FreeBSD is a US project, and the US has no official language, so there is no implied language for the project. In addition, many people in the US speak languages (natively) other than English. I should know. I'm from Northern Michigan and if you want to try explaining to a big burly fur-trader descendant named Reuben who lives on Bois Blanc island that he is not supposed to speak French, you're likely to get the crap beaten out of you. In short, even if you look at freebsd.org as being country-specific (I disagree with this in the first place, but anyway) that still doesn't mean English should necessarily dominate on its lists. 2) There are NO official french-language lists. There is a French-language list, but it is not official. I am subscribed to it, and as such I can assure you that, per day, more francophones read the official list than they do the unofficial french-language list. This makes it quite unreasonable to expect francophones to use the unofficial list, knowing they won't receive support. If you would like to continue with this connerie, you may do so; but if you do, don't expect thereafter that your messages will continue to show up in my inbox. By the way, I assume you are indeed a native anglophone, so even according to the guidelines there is no excuse for your spelling of xenophobic with a z. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:28:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990A616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:28:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C7B43D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so789510rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:28:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Ji5A542K7geXJWtu7+YAXWwHkuJhLtFAtkoZ6CgEGoRv13iKRog3kRG/CC+VLlvxCXYz/fccdD09JieoqylWoPxfnIL+Rn1oIm35YbQr/2wSWcZg7Ym28Qck/8FMBYzxAcfWToJ+ch+8PfNpW6GcNk1bk7c7ndCf9fnAJI4UHow= Received: by 10.38.9.52 with SMTP id 52mr573776rni; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:28:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:28:15 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: nNCL:registering deferred (0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:28:16 -0000 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:23:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:13:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > I wanted to reinstall mozilla but this time with the mail thingie enabled. > > I did make config make deinstall make reinstall but it get stuck doing > > nothing at the end saying nNCL:registering deferred (0) > > > > Any body knows how to fix this ? > > The google bowl tels me this > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2004-September/008360.html > I want my mozilla back :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:31:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC42116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC8043D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2FE4A37E59; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2537E48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF6D937E45 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 4822 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2005 12:31:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:31:04 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , Frank Staals , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: Frank Staals cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:31:09 -0000 On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:09:52PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:43:44 +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > > Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (Mar 24), Gert Cuykens said: > > Looking for a shell editor that can open two files at the same time on the > > same screen splitting the screen horizontal ? Please dont answer emac or vi > > they are not made for teletubies :( I like the ee or mc editor but i dont > > think mc editor can open two files at the same time/ Try editors/joe-devel > > (which should probably be renamed to plain editors/joe) Jep joe is realy > > cool, its my default text-editor and it can be used in a split-screen mode. > > > > you should probably get used to the commands you can use, first ctrl+ k > > seems a litle weird but when you get used to it it realy rules ( in fact > > when I'm working at school in word or notepad and I want to save my stuff I > > automatically do ctrl + k + d ) :D > > > > ctrl + k rules after you get used to it > > > > Good Luck > > > > Frank Staals > > > > Yep joe looks great. But i dont understand why they use ^K so much ? > What is the logic behind ^K what does K stand for ? I would understand > ^J on all the special joe key bindings but ^K ? The default keybindings in Joe are based on those used in WordStar which used ^K (as well as ^Q) for many commands, so it is mainly historical reasons. WordStar used to be very popular so many people are already familiar with those keybindings (either directly from WordStar, or from one of the many other programs that also used some variant of them.) I don't think K stands for anything really - I think it was chosen mainly because it was placed in a convenient position on the keyboard. The WordStar keybindings might not seem very logical at first glance, but ones fingers very quickly learn them. (Unlike e.g. the default keybindings in Emacs which are quite logical, but which I usually find difficult to remember.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 12:52:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAA116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:52:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.io.com (smtp.io.com [209.198.128.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97C443D62 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from io.com (206-224-83-17-dialup.io.com [206.224.83.17]) by smtp.io.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with SMTP id j2PCqhNK041709; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:52:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: by io.com (nbSMTP-0.98) for uid 1001 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:52:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:51:48 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/784/Fri Mar 25 01:57:57 2005 on smtp.io.com X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: Frank Staals cc: Dan Nelson cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:52:56 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:09:52PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> Yep joe looks great. But i dont understand why they use ^K so much ? >> What is the logic behind ^K what does K stand for ? I would understand >> ^J on all the special joe key bindings but ^K ? > > The default keybindings in Joe are based on those used in WordStar > which used ^K (as well as ^Q) for many commands, so it is mainly > historical reasons. WordStar used to be very popular so many people > are already familiar with those keybindings (either directly from > WordStar, or from one of the many other programs that also used some > variant of them.) > > I don't think K stands for anything really - I think it was chosen > mainly because it was placed in a convenient position on the keyboard. > > The WordStar keybindings might not seem very logical at first glance, > but ones fingers very quickly learn them. (Unlike e.g. the default > keybindings in Emacs which are quite logical, but which I usually find > difficult to remember.) I might add that Joe is exceedingly easy to configue (no lisp!) besides coming with a choice of (once) popular bindings -- simply invoke it with one of its other names. You can reconfigure each of them so you can have several versions of the one you prefer or the configuration you like. Macros can do pipe stuff through any pipe-aware command you have on your system, so things get done exactly as they would on the command line and not with some internal sort-of-like. Despite the C in EMACS, it is exceedingly hard to configure, and some things really are impractical to change. If you want to do something else with control-X and control-c, you should be able to map those functions elsewhere. (To many people control-x, control-c, and control-v seem logically connected to cut, copy, and paste, respectively.) But just try it. Too many packages have been written that assume you won't move those keys. -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:01:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C7116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416C843D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:00:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:00:43 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Friday, 25 March 2005, 09:04:17 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:04:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4243D4BA.6000702@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:07:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 13:04:17.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[26A70A40:01C5313B] References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> <20050324233816.GA21885@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20050324233816.GA21885@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050125) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:01:04 -0000 Hi again The option -R does not work :-( i do this #setenv CVSROOT freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs #cvs -R co -rRELENG_5 src and get this cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied and if i do #socksify cvs -R co src WORKS PERFECTLY What can i do? Osmany Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2005-03-24 17:00, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > > >>Hi people >> >>I am learning in the use of cvs for sync my src and ports i use this >>command line and works perfectly >> >># cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src >> >>but this line update my source tree with the current version 6.0 >> >> > >True. > > > >>but i don't want this version then i do this >> >># cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -rRELENG_5 src >> >>and get this error >>cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: >>Permission denied >> >> > >Use the -R option of cvs (read-only repository): > > # CVSROOT='freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs' > # export CVSROOT > # cvs -R co -rRELENG_5 src > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8069616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.202.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBA243D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubisd@comcast.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pcp04680516pcs.newhav01.mi.comcast.net[68.60.93.214]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <2005032514083901400j9clte>; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:39 +0000 Message-ID: <42441B6A.6070407@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:08:42 -0500 From: Danny Rubis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax;nscd1) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apache 2.0 + Tomcat 4.1 + mod_jk build on FreeBSD 4.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:40 -0000 Hey! Can you direct me to someone who can give some clues about this "jakarta-tomcat-connectors-1.2.8-src" (mod_jk) build error message: /bin/sh /usr/local/share/apache2/build/libtool --silent --mode=install cp `pwd`/mod_jk.so libtool: install: you must specify a destination Try `libtool --help --mode=install' for more information. *** Error code 1 Notice the cp `pwd`/mod_jk.so Seems something is missing after the cp. Hmm. But what? mod_jk is the connector between Apache and Tomcat. It handles the passoff of JSP requests from Apache webserver to Tomcat servlet engine. Any help would be much appreciated. Sans adieu, Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:09:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A295643D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2PE8arG011019; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:38 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Josh Ockert In-Reply-To: <126eac4805032504182716bfc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4243342C.50809@eng.ufl.edu> <1111742906.756.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac4805032504182716bfc4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:08:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1111759716.756.318.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:09:20 -0000 Josh, On the grounds that this a new front, I'll post on this thread one last time, but I have been suggesting for several posts now that we've all expressed our views and other people can make up their minds without constant repetition from us. On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:18 +0100, Josh Ockert wrote: > Good God this is all non-sensical. If you really want to pick up my spelling mistake, which I happily acknowledge I made, it's ironic to see you make one yourself (nonsense is not hyphenated). But English is perhaps not your langue de naissance? If not, I compliment you on your facility with it. J'essaye de utiliser la francaise mais je ne suis pas du tout pres de votre niveau en anglais. > Peter, there is absolutely nothing > to give the impression that questions is meant to be entirely, > exclusively, or even primarily English-language list. True enough for the first two (entirely, exclusively), but people _are_ encouraged to use English and I quoted from the FreeBSD website to demonstrate that. I don't know why you haven't accepted this, even if you disagree with it, or explained why you do not. I have never responded to anyone who posted in a language other than English that they should not have done so - and lots of other people have. I think the list should be, and generally is, welcoming for everyone, regardless of whether or not they have sufficient competence in English to use it to ask a question. But I do disagree with you about the idea that the list should be officially linguistically agnostic. I think people should be encouraged to use one language if possible, and that for a variety of reasons English is the obvious choice. In this, I seem to be closer to the guidelines expressed on the FreeBSD website than you are. But that doesn't mean I'm right, or that a majority would agree. However, it is a valid, genuine opinion and it's a shame you choose to respond to it with insults, even in French, and mail filtering. I guess I should have realised that there's a fairly bitter philosophical divide underlying this sort of debate. It's similar to multiculturalism vs. integration, or the occasional battles within the European Union over language. FWIW, I also think the EU should adopt one language primarily, but that for historical reasons this should be French. And that really is it. I subscribed to this list for technical questions, not for this sort of circular and needlessly personal sort of debate. Peter. > Consider the > following: > > 1) FreeBSD is a US project, and the US has no official > language, so there is no implied language for the project. In > addition, many people in the US speak languages (natively) other than > English. I should know. I'm from Northern Michigan and if you want to > try explaining to a big burly fur-trader descendant named Reuben who > lives on Bois Blanc island that he is not supposed to speak French, > you're likely to get the crap beaten out of you. In short, even if you > look at freebsd.org as being country-specific (I disagree with this in > the first place, but anyway) that still doesn't mean English should > necessarily dominate on its lists. > > 2) There are NO official french-language lists. There is a > French-language list, but it is not official. I am subscribed to it, > and as such I can assure you that, per day, more francophones read the > official list than they do the unofficial french-language list. This > makes it quite unreasonable to expect francophones to use the > unofficial list, knowing they won't receive support. > > If you would like to continue with this connerie, you may do so; but > if you do, don't expect thereafter that your messages will continue to > show up in my inbox. By the way, I assume you are indeed a native > anglophone, so even according to the guidelines there is no excuse for > your spelling of xenophobic with a z. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:11:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3BF16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF2243D54 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879624133; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:11:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42441D2B.1010909@atopia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:16:11 -0500 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Martin Petersen" References: <4243CBC7.7030001@atopia.net> <4243CD38.5010702@alvorlig.dk> In-Reply-To: <4243CD38.5010702@alvorlig.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:11:59 -0000 I should read more. Thanks. :) J. Martin Petersen wrote: > Matt Juszczak wrote: > >> Installed xorg and xfce4 .... >> >> Then I get the following. Any ideas? Thank you! >> >> -Matt >> >> ---snip--- >> >> heather$ startxfce4 >> /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4: Starting X server >> >> >> X Window System Version 6.8.2 >> Release Date: 9 February 2005 >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 >> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.3 i386 [ELF] >> Current Operating System: FreeBSD heather 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD >> 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 >> root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> Build Date: 25 March 2005 >> Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org >> to make sure that you have the latest version. >> Module Loader present >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 25 03:26:15 2005 >> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" >> xscreensaver: not found >> Agent pid 18253 >> >> ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): CRITICAL **: find_master: assertion >> `mixer_handle != -1' failed >> >> ** (xfce-mcs-manager:18257): WARNING **: oss: No master volume >> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.ICE-unix will not be >> created. >> _IceTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: mkdir(/tmp/.ICE-unix) failed, >> errno = 2 >> _IceTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for local >> xfce4-session: Unable to establish ICE listeners: Cannot establish >> any listening sockets >> Agent pid 18253 killed >> >> waiting for X server to shut down The application 'xfce-mcs-manager' >> lost its connection to the display :0.0; >> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed >> the application. > > > Maybe the following from /usr/ports/UPDATING can help? > > |20050126: > | AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4 > | AUTHOR: oliver@FreeBSD.org > | > | If you use Xorg 6.8.1: Make shure there is an /tmp/.ICE-unix with > | propper rights. For further informations about that, please refer to > | 2004122 > | Please update all your plugins as well when you update from 4.0.6 to > | 4.2. They all need recompiling to link against the new xfce libraries > > Cheers, Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > !DSPAM:4243cd6916672801758732! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:16:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2130A16A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19EE43D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:16:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.0.0.132] (unknown [10.0.0.132]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D1B47E012 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:16:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42441D7A.9000106@vdsoft.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:17:30 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Postfix and Queues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:16:44 -0000 Hi *, I have little, but not annoying problem with Postfix and queuing management. When two or more big (understand >2 MB) emails are in active queue, Postfix is trying to deliver them simultaneously. But moth ago began to apear following message in /var/log/mail : 5BCED8EFE3* 4534286 Fri Mar 25 14:25:35 user@mydomain.cz (lost connection with mailserver.domain.com [aa.bb.cc.dd] while sending message body) ^^ this message is in defer queue and wait for its time, when next try to deliver comes. During this time comes another big email from local user, which get stucked in defer queue too. The link start to have very high load of outgoing mail traffic, but all of them are unsuccesfully delivered. Well, is there any chance to reduce queue to one mail in active queue ? The system runs postfix-19991231pl08-29 - I know its very old. Thank you in advance. Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:19:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDF416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:19:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A3543D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])j2PEJn526284 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:19:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:19:56 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:19:53 -0000 Hi all, Going blind again. Is there a quick - secure way to allow the sshd sFTP subsystem to allows sftp connections without allowing shell accounts? If so, I will keep searching but I have not found it yet. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:21:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B105416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:21:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ED143D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:21:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2PELIE01076; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:21:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503251421.j2PELIE01076@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: kline@tao.thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:21:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050325054452.GA27349@thought.org> from "Gary Kline" at Mar 24, 2005 09:44:52 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: update on the dual-boot and newfs hassles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:21:39 -0000 > > People, > > I'm almost done with the installation on my test platform. > The reason newfs was erroring was a WRITE err; I finally > booted single-user and fsck's /usr, then tried the > CD sysinstall for the Nth time N >=1, <= 70 :-| > Everything worked; from there is was a matter of getting > files in /etc set. > > For sure, the past few days have been a learning experience. > Understanding how to partition the 4 slices is a major win. > > I have one question. Now when I boot I see > > F1: ??? > F2 FreeBSD > > Can anybody tell me what to add to /boot (??) so the loader > prints "DOS" instead of "???" If the sysinstall scripts > recognize NTFS, what's wrong with the loader? If you are using the standard FreeBSD MBR, nothing, unless you want to hack the code yourself. It is written to fit in a minimum of space and no one has taken the time to figure out how to cram recognition of NTFS and a label string in to the block. Some other third party MBRs use up more space - which almost all of the time nowdays you can get away with - and identify more things and even allow you to configure how you want them to be described in your menu. But, I believe they are still considered not 100% compatible, or more likely, backward compatible. So, the standard FreeBSD MBR is designed to work with even old clunkers. Now, if you are feeling bored and need something to do, you might extend the standard MBR and then ammend sysinstall to offer that additional alternative and submit those changes. Some people would probably love you for it - and you would learn more than you ever wanted to know about boot code and sector 0 formats, etc. ////jerry > > thanks for the help, > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:25:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9666716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C3C43D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460423000927 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:25:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:25:50 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-15?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050317 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de Subject: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:36 -0000 Hello. I run into the follwoing problem. Using an internet connected at my lab makes me happy installing each package I need from source. At home I have only a very slow moem connection, but I need also the same packages (not precompiled, the sources) there. One idea was to "fetch" every source tarball of every installed port-package as reported in /var/db/pkg, burn /usr/ports/distfiles in conjunction with a up to date /usr/Ports-tree on one or two DVDs and the copy this at home on the disk (capacity is not an issue). Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to gather all tarballs from each installed port and its friends it depends on. Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. Thanks, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:28:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF0016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A1743D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59F34176; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:28:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <424420ED.7040108@atopia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:32:13 -0500 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emanuel Strobl References: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> <200503240629.21457@harrymail> In-Reply-To: <200503240629.21457@harrymail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:28:01 -0000 These options were already set. Any other ideas? otherwise we're going to have to skip the flash card option and put a hard drive in this box :-( :-( Thank you, Matt Emanuel Strobl wrote: >Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 21:02 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > > >>Howdy, >> >>Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load m0n0wall, >>which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot errors you see in >>the paste link below. >> >>http://paste.atopia.net/107 >> >>We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( Any ideas >>are appreciated in advance. >> >> > >Maybe your CF-Card doesn't implement the ATA-Mode correctly. I once had a card >which had wrong ATA-mode support but it didn't even boot. >But I don't know why these errors occur, I'd suggest trying the following >in /boot/loader.conf: >hw.ata.ata_dma=0 >hw.ata.wc=0 > >Good luck, > >-Harry > > > >>Thanks, >> >>Matt >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>!DSPAM:42425048649491091553215! >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:35:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8FE16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E7043D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554945DA3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92774-05; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239AD5C1E; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:35:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <42442214.1040008@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:37:08 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:11 -0000 O. Hartmann wrote: [ ... ] > Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to gather > all tarballs from each installed port and its friends it depends on. > Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. Try using "make fetch-recursive" from a port's directory to fetch the source tarballs for that port and it's dependencies. Note that you can also create packages from the installed ports and copy those over to another machine, and install them directly rather than recompiling everything. [ Start with a "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", and the ports system will create package tarballs automaticly under there... ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:43:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A840916A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mitchell.homeunix.org (69-173-143-29.agstme.adelphia.net [69.173.143.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0629843D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Received: from mitchell.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mitchell.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2PEhek9017846 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Received: (from jmitchell@localhost) by mitchell.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2PEhdO5017845 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jmitchell@mitchell.homeunix.org) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:43:39 -0500 From: John Mitchell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325144339.GA34764@mitchell.homeunix.org> References: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42442214.1040008@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42442214.1040008@mac.com> X-Uptime: 9:40AM up 1 day, 19:21, 8 users, load averages: 0.93, 1.00, 0.85 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:44 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This one time, at band camp, Chuck Swiger wrote: > O. Hartmann wrote: > [ ... ] > > Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to gathe= r=20 > > all tarballs from each installed port and its friends it depends on. > > Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. >=20 > Try using "make fetch-recursive" from a port's directory to fetch the=20 > source tarballs for that port and it's dependencies. Note that you can= =20 > also create packages from the installed ports and copy those over to=20 > another machine, and install them directly rather than recompiling=20 > everything. >=20 > [ Start with a "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", and the ports system will=20 > create package tarballs automaticly under there... ] Actually a "make checksum-recursive" might be better if he is goint to burn the distfiles to a DVD, that way if there is a partial distfile already make will notice it and resume downloading it. --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIIrgYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIInzCCCJsCAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BjIwggLrMIICVKADAgECAgMOUx4wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA1MDMyMjE4NDIzOVoXDTA2MDMyMjE4 NDIzOVowUTEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEuMCwGCSqGSIb3DQEJ ARYfam1pdGNoZWxsQG1pdGNoZWxsLmhvbWV1bml4Lm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD ggEPADCCAQoCggEBAOP2vQMF3mDzmbj4o/siHsFPp9wTSBpIxwHtISWV41VwIGGuCddV77E9 lhGvraaXtPug20RDL3/aVz5bUf27Af1JK3JCYarIC+9zHaBMTmV4eMchxDrxdyI8/vmDc7z8 Vdd0HbZwwFwbNMloI908xI9piuzAlh+RI54SRfN00CM+cruhhopE2NGw43CbU5aDtPNJOOi0 jBjo/x113Vn35lF53wPxuFvGNU5g9ug/BpMdxwEVXC328hFpsXFw576CyqzNRw0b0c1itZ/Y il7EH5/VEcG1fsQi+hR6pNZucYbBjwKdA2Y/Yl1NKy9L+5VGXPWGDQYLPRtlncZm+vAvKBcC AwEAAaM8MDowKgYDVR0RBCMwIYEfam1pdGNoZWxsQG1pdGNoZWxsLmhvbWV1bml4Lm9yZzAM BgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBABRUT2k0AHsRUjt4TT0b0FOnDkDvvvt3 06TG9oIJ+HG2o120fY2r4Y92If0BgulcjoT+PXoD50wEp2u69clliGGiTSj0fsNxbcuwsi0y ZhROXHgz+fh1KiZMv6xjFzF5XxSan6jCitwQry3wN6A09PuWQl8AXm5flmylA3rd7gplMIID PzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgT DFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29u c3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIG A1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJz b25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAwMFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1 OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Ia dr1/DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoTzyvV84J3 PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZcmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGR MBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDwwOjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3 dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFsRnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1Ud EQQiMCCkHjAcMRowGAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOB gQBIjNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8/a3hYWLD 2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr394fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1 TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAkQwggJAAgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMOUx4wCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCBsTAYBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNTAzMjUxNDQzMzlaMCMGCSqG SIb3DQEJBDEWBBS6ogh5PLOdLmlneTgXzDB7M/2F+zBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqG SIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG 9w0DAgIBKDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQB82FuU1224uyhynUHOu8STIVqqnAVtzsmpFfQ2 YpUCcjONvD92mHGoycksSl62uxj7WUksuU9YSK+jM2mfHq/e4lwmtWDw6+pfGpd5q0SAsi1L 8sSg0RusTT4EF2sbIQXQqn1WKQSGoDXiBvjxc75zx8E596jIyPOQKTtonw6mGqOtHbKNBqNg OHBAFigXwBkqmq+NFXU7WeKKOFQGrRzNxccaIsRBGpnoWdJrhF2ggYM1IiOhMgdJ2dvOmOwh 7YLrqR920U5GFSvCllihv7moxlsWmJcj8svtn9w8MFASM2tSjeYfQlVuBSLKlsMhfZHMcdFx jh8n3cFGRVa11n3/ --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:46:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73D216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vdsoft.org (poseidon.vdsoft.org [193.85.147.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8D443D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:46:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dvorakv@vdsoft.org) Received: from [10.0.0.132] (unknown [10.0.0.132]) by mail.vdsoft.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2297F47E013; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:46:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4244248C.7090704@vdsoft.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:47:40 +0100 From: Vladimir Dvorak User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Dvorak References: <42441D7A.9000106@vdsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <42441D7A.9000106@vdsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix and Queues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:46:49 -0000 Vladimir Dvorak wrote: > Hi *, > > I have little, but not annoying problem with Postfix and queuing > management. When two or more big (understand >2 MB) emails are in > active queue, Postfix is trying to deliver them simultaneously. But > moth ago began to apear following message in /var/log/mail : > > 5BCED8EFE3* 4534286 Fri Mar 25 14:25:35 user@mydomain.cz > (lost connection with mailserver.domain.com [aa.bb.cc.dd] while > sending message body) > > ^^ this message is in defer queue and wait for its time, when next try > to deliver comes. During this time comes another big email from local > user, which get stucked in defer queue too. The link start to have > very high load of outgoing mail traffic, but all of them are > unsuccesfully delivered. > > Well, is there any chance to reduce queue to one mail in active queue ? > > The system runs postfix-19991231pl08-29 - I know its very old. > > Thank you in advance. > > I found solution. There is (in front of this mailserver) OpenBSD firewall with "scrub in all". Problem appears, when this messages are targeted to Microsoft MX. MS servers badly handle with IP headers and sets "Dont fragment" bit, when this packet is fragmented. :-) Excerpt from man pf.conf: "Some operating systems are known to generate fragmented packets with the dont-fragment bit set. " If you want to avoid this problem, leave "scrub in all" and use "scrub in no-df". If you have another solution, you are welcome! :-) Vladimir Dvorak -- * VDSOFT.ORG dvorakv@vdsoft.org * * (+420) 602 944 941 http://www.vdsoft.org * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:49:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908CB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:49:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.bluewin.ch (mail2.bluewin.ch [195.186.4.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D2D43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:49:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from devnull@truffy.com) Received: from smtp.localnet (62.203.156.245) by mail2.bluewin.ch (Bluewin 7.0.043) id 423AEC47000C1019 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:49:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [192.168.0.20]) by smtp.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FAB75DFA for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:49:09 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nigel Moore Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:49:08 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: Trouble updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:49:11 -0000 Hello I've been trying to update the ports on a FreeBSD 5.3 install without success. I've just taken the standard ports-supfile, changed the default base to "/usr" and added my local cvsup mirror, but I get continual connection time-outs (transcript below). I've also tried other cvsup servers in Germany, the UK, as well as the central mirrors. Same deal across the board, and this has been going on for over a week. The machine is behind a firewall, but I've managed to download packages from the FreeBSD FTP server. Any pointers as to how to resolve this? Thanks N ========= merlin# cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/myports-supfile Parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/myports-supfile" Connecting to cvsup.ch.FreeBSD.org Connected to cvsup.ch.FreeBSD.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection ports-all/cvs Checkout ports/MOVED Detailer failed: Network write failure: Connection timed out Will retry at 15:39:38 Retrying Connecting to cvsup.ch.FreeBSD.org Connected to cvsup.ch.FreeBSD.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection ports-all/cvs Checkout ports/MOVED Detailer failed: Network write failure: Connection timed out Will retry at 15:56:30 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 14:58:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEE016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:58:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765343D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050325145827.FDU4618.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:58:27 -0500 From: To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: view contrib stuff online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:58:29 -0000 Is there a place I can go to over the internet to browse the contrib stuff? I don't want to have to download all the /usr/src/contrib/ content because I don't have room on my HD. So looking for FTP site to browse and select just what I find interesting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:08:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8935C43D54 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:08:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 20556 invoked by uid 207); 25 Mar 2005 15:08:51 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.214):. Processed in 1.859475 secs); 25 Mar 2005 15:08:51 -0000 Received: from dialup214.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.214]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Mar 2005 15:08:49 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2PF8iC7039518; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:08:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2PF8ixe039517; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:08:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:08:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Osmany Guirola Cruz Message-ID: <20050325150843.GA39401@gothmog.gr> References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> <20050324233816.GA21885@gothmog.gr> <4243D4BA.6000702@cigb.edu.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4243D4BA.6000702@cigb.edu.cu> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:08:58 -0000 On 2005-03-25 09:07, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > Hi again > > The option -R does not work :-( > i do this > #setenv CVSROOT freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs > #cvs -R co -rRELENG_5 src > and get this > cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: > Permission denied > and if i do > #socksify cvs -R co src > WORKS PERFECTLY > > What can i do? % Not sure. I tried using a tag too and it fails to work :-( % % $ cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -l -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat % cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied % % $ cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat % cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied % % $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat % cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied % % $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src/bin/cat % U src/bin/cat/Makefile % U src/bin/cat/cat.1 % U src/bin/cat/cat.c % % $ cd src/bin/cat % $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs up -APd -r RELENG_5 % cvs [update aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied I vaguely remember a problem report about val-tags, so I checked the history of the CVS version we have in the tree. Dag-Erling Smorgrav has fixed a bug related to this in revision 1.2 of the file: src/contrib/cvs/src/tag.c. This seems to be a server issue. If the server running at anoncvs.freebsd.org doesn't have the fix of DES, you can try a different server I guess. I'll let DES know about this and see if the fix has been backported to non-CURRENT FreeBSD versions. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:09:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A792C16A4EB for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:09:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B919F43D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:09:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 20730 invoked by uid 207); 25 Mar 2005 15:09:56 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.214):. Processed in 0.426461 secs); 25 Mar 2005 15:09:56 -0000 Received: from dialup214.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.214]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Mar 2005 15:09:55 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2PF9rGj039559; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:09:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2PF9r8o039558; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:09:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:09:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: bob@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050325150953.GB39401@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: view contrib stuff online X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:09:58 -0000 On 2005-03-25 09:58, bob@a1poweruser.com wrote: > Is there a place I can go to over the internet to browse the contrib > stuff? > > I don't want to have to download all the /usr/src/contrib/ > content because I don't have room on my HD. > So looking for FTP site to browse and select just what I find > interesting. http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/src/contrib/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:15:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF9416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:15:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9F943D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2PFF5ct011230; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:15:05 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:15:04 +0000 Message-Id: <1111763704.756.338.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:15:18 -0000 On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 09:19 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Going blind again. > > Is there a quick - secure way to allow the sshd sFTP subsystem to allows > sftp connections without allowing shell accounts? I can't answer this directly - I did look for the same thing but couldn't see how to do it (so I'd be really interested if you finda way). I got the feeling that it needs a shell by definition. But when I was looking, I noticed that security/openssh-portable has the make option: WITH_OPENSSH_CHROOT which doesn't seem to exist for security/openssh and maybe tightens things up a bit. Closer to what you want might be would be rssh, but I've never tried using it so can't comment further: #less /usr/ports/shells/rssh/pkg-descr rssh is a Restricted Secure SHell that allow only the use of sftp or scp. It could be use when you need an account (and a valid shell) in order to execute sftp or scp but when you don't want to give the possibility to log in to this user. WWW: http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/index.shtml - enigmatyc HTH Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:17:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06E516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:17:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815C43D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:17:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1139157rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:17:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OfNTSppK8+XdiWmmCZsXiB7QEB6IhxPagvV7qqFuIImvcSYbMdrZWH3M+U7RuHxhHQEhAIYNrTnaaRdzahNz1325wdDr4r8E6O1xv2Pi1zT8voCdTVMN1agkWS2ThP4h1t4EMvX0bvtNTBsnyOOwGyXH5JEfOlvxfjv3XsBBVAg= Received: by 10.38.165.79 with SMTP id n79mr2568784rne; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:54 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> cc: Frank Staals cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:17:55 -0000 When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line byte 844 ing ATI chips byte 865 byte 866 R100 Radeon 7200 byte 901 byte 902 RV100 Radeon 7000(VE), M6 byte 948 byte 949 RS100 Radeon IGP320(M) byte 992 byte 993 RV200 Radeon 7500, M7, FireGL 7800 byte 1048 byte 1049 RS200 Radeon IGP330(M)/IGP340(M) byte 1102 byte 1103 RS250 Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP how do you get rit of byte... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:21:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B2E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:21:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAE043D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:21:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10050 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEqdF-000Lsj-1t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:21:53 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0432841A7 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBB158C827 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:52 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050325162152.7a974119.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:21:54 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:54 +0100 Gert Cuykens wrote: > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line > > byte 844 ing ATI chips in joe you can do a search (^K^F) and then choose (R)eplace, fill in "byte" and replacing it by a space is possible, then choose "all" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:22:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BA316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:22:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B891943D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:22:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hardcodeharry@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36302 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 15:22:08 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=tynCF7HUD7J2GP+V6zGsSGYUOOvbv1Zzt4WGGLpRhbUXMpR362NFZgC0D3hLaj9O2WZ84Lm5FzH+ZmXZ4OufJkDJ1WAYzRl2dJGvEAd6WRcoIeIvN9VlDCE6WuriAaztCEcHBYgv/aj6dATwUehXhhG71FpOMFU0fTJCCjzuTB8= ; Message-ID: <20050325152208.36300.qmail@web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.47.116.25] by web90207.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:22:08 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) From: Boris Spirialitious To: Subhro , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:22:09 -0000 --- Subhro wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of em1897@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on > FreeBSD 5.4-pre > > > > I think that warning people that the good name of > "FreeBSD" is being > > tainted by the current band of clowns is very > productive. Its more like > > a religion now; I've never seen so many people in > total denial that > > their > > > > OH NO!!! ANOTHER AOLer. > > One more entry added to my kill list. > > THIS IS MY EARNEST REQUEST TO ALL THE LIST MEMBERS. > BANDWIDTH IS VERY COSTLY > HERE SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT WASTE BANDWIDTH > AND TIME BY FEEDING > TROLLS. You use gmail, so what bandwidth of yours is it using? Boris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:25:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0DB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:25:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net (vms040pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501E343D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:25:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdzz@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.25] ([68.236.212.14])0.04 <0IDW00C2IYUDLX02@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:25:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:26:02 -0500 From: bsdzz In-reply-to: <4243B407.7000803@ec.rr.com> To: jason henson Message-id: <42442D8A.4090402@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <4243759A.4030404@verizon.net> <4243B407.7000803@ec.rr.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050226) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:25:26 -0000 > Search freshports.org That was a good suggestion. I went to freshports.org, but all I found were several WindowMaker utilities, and the same libwmf I found earlier. I checked package names and long descriptions. thx! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:27:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86AF16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:27:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED8243D53 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so821149rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:27:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=d214wx/aNruftHNIUlHuEoBeIK2Tc0hYMRvDWHZOw6aylXK6S9fGvrNUiz3OVzrIT3EdKmpGy+FJoSVT8R4soDq4gzSHIJNks6fvq8YsoXld/D9/Q97R8AVCT2jmt/1ABy4/onjnzjYvbhbuJwruj/6ANtVSZHUDl+3sc/ULZO4= Received: by 10.38.149.17 with SMTP id w17mr309037rnd; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:27:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:27:12 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: "albi@scii.nl" In-Reply-To: <20050325162152.7a974119.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> <20050325162152.7a974119.albi@scii.nl> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:27:14 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:52 +0100, albi@scii.nl wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:54 +0100 > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and > > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line > > > > byte 844 ing ATI chips > > in joe you can do a search (^K^F) and then choose (R)eplace, fill in > "byte" and replacing it by a space is possible, then choose "all" > Can you configure joe it doesnt put byte xxxx when you scroll ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:36:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFC816A4CF; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:36:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsdnerds.org (pcp0011384308pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net [69.248.83.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F279143D58; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: by bsdnerds.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 64292658A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by bsdnerds.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6671B6156 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9507B57771; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED32116A4DF; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E893516A4D0 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E2D43D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:14:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yokean1@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so709635wri for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OzycSjtN/5JGA/02YwB9Dx1uqe3gIBgEt150c9HIgXUnLJ6RBnj3ftxwHCR3doGPwKTQ9JJMJ2KvzMDNteDL2dN6G8oLmNkVUGTg/6U/ZyiA0AIrj13Brr3yURC1pToBz1etYG7t9upVLBaSZl4/TSAv/YsfiyWykhB65o74Zz0= Received: by 10.54.8.66 with SMTP id 66mr87058wrh; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.2.21 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80b681a505032500145b5dd8cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:14:02 +0800 From: Ann Lee To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on bsdnerds.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.5 tests=none autolearn=ham version=2.64 Subject: Boot Error and stop at : plip0: on ppbus0 -> FreeBSD v4.8 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: Ann Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:36:05 -0000 Hi All, When I try to boot from CD-ROM to install my FreeBSD 4.8 i386 my computer stops to work. I do: 1) Booting from CD-ROM 2) Skip kernel configuration. 3) Then I see: [...something before...] ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 [That is all. Now he stops.] I have: SATA Hard Disk Ultra ATA Storage Controller - Onboard Intel Pro100MT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - Onboard Any idea? Cheers, Ann _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:42:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:42:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9730443D58 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDW00300ZMO0LL0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:42:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7868F2CE751; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:42:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:42:23 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503250742.24088.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Subject: Re: Trouble updating ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:42:25 -0000 On Friday 25 March 2005 06:49 am, Nigel Moore wrote: > Hello > > I've been trying to update the ports on a FreeBSD 5.3 install without > success. I've just taken the standard ports-supfile, changed the > default base to "/usr" and added my local cvsup mirror, but I get > continual connection time-outs (transcript below). > > I've also tried other cvsup servers in Germany, the UK, as well as > the central mirrors. Same deal across the board, and this has been > going on for over a week. > > The machine is behind a firewall, but I've managed to download > packages from the FreeBSD FTP server. > > Any pointers as to how to resolve this? > > Thanks > > N See /etc/services, make sure port 5999 is open -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:43:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9083216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2154243D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:43:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050325154313.NPPY2192.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:43:13 -0500 From: To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:43:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: 5.4 release date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:43:14 -0000 Does anybody know the release date of 5.4? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:58:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB0C16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:58:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44DD43D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:58:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jas@math.jussieu.fr) Received: from riemann.math.jussieu.fr (riemann.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.3])j2PFvjd3061601 ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:45 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 164 Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (galois1.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.116])j2PFva2s084464 ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from galois1.math.jussieu.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) j2PFvaW8005451 ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:36 +0100 Received: (from jas@localhost) by galois1.math.jussieu.fr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j2PFvaB1005450; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:36 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: bob@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20050325155736.GR825@math.jussieu.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -2.82 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.157.13.3 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.7.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:57:45 +0100 (CET) X-Antivirus: scanned by sophie at shiva.jussieu.fr X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 424434F9.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: 5.4 release date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: shih@math.jussieu.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:58:08 -0000 Le 25/03/2005 à 10:43:12-0500, bob@a1poweruser.com a écrit > Does anybody know the release date of 5.4? > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/schedule.html add one week to schedule (please don't troll ;-)) ). Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Fri Mar 25 16:56:39 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 15:59:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E040316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:59:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A591F43D58 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:59:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emccoy@haystacks.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-98-109-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[24.98.109.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2005032515591101400s99gqe>; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:59:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:59:10 -0500 From: Eric McCoy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:59:13 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Is there a quick - secure way to allow the sshd sFTP subsystem to allows > sftp connections without allowing shell accounts? Create the account and set its shell to /sbin/nologin. You can safely add that to /etc/shells: it does its name and just prints a terse message before booting the user if he tries to connect via vanilla SSH. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:00:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE3616A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF1143D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:00:32 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Friday, 25 March 2005, 11:47:18 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:47:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4243FAF2.7050704@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:50:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 15:47:16.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBB77CF0:01C53151] References: <42430C4A.3080200@gmail.com> <42432463.7090403@daleco.biz> <4242F221.4080902@cigb.edu.cu> <20050324233816.GA21885@gothmog.gr> <4243D4BA.6000702@cigb.edu.cu> <20050325150843.GA39401@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20050325150843.GA39401@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050125) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs question? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:56 -0000 Ok i probed this %setenv CVSROOT anoncvs@anoncvs.fr.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs % cvs -R co -r RELENG_5 src cvs server: warning: cannot open /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags read/write: Read-only file system cvs server: Updating src etc etc etc ................................... WORKS perfectly with this server "now i have the src-tree from 5-stable :-)" and i tested(paranoia :-) ) with RELENG_4 and works :-) ..the problem is with anoncvs.FreeBSD.org server Thanks for your help Osmany Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2005-03-25 09:07, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: > > >>Hi again >> >>The option -R does not work :-( >>i do this >>#setenv CVSROOT freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs >>#cvs -R co -rRELENG_5 src >>and get this >>cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: >>Permission denied >>and if i do >>#socksify cvs -R co src >>WORKS PERFECTLY >> >>What can i do? >> >> > >% Not sure. I tried using a tag too and it fails to work :-( >% >% $ cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -l -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat >% cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied >% >% $ cvs -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat >% cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied >% >% $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co -r RELENG_5 src/bin/cat >% cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied >% >% $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src/bin/cat >% U src/bin/cat/Makefile >% U src/bin/cat/cat.1 >% U src/bin/cat/cat.c >% >% $ cd src/bin/cat >% $ cvs -R -d freebsdanoncvs@anoncvs.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs up -APd -r RELENG_5 >% cvs [update aborted]: cannot write /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/val-tags: Permission denied > >I vaguely remember a problem report about val-tags, so I checked the history >of the CVS version we have in the tree. Dag-Erling Smorgrav has fixed a bug >related to this in revision 1.2 of the file: src/contrib/cvs/src/tag.c. > >This seems to be a server issue. If the server running at anoncvs.freebsd.org >doesn't have the fix of DES, you can try a different server I guess. I'll let >DES know about this and see if the fix has been backported to non-CURRENT >FreeBSD versions. > >- Giorgos > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:00:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3140516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9585143D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan.haglund@crystalnorth.com) Received: by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3A0D837EA8; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:00:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E3737E79 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:00:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (h194n4fls310o253.telia.com [81.229.63.194]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB30037E42 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:00:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <424435B4.70105@crystalnorth.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:00:52 +0100 From: Stefan Haglund User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: File corruption on uploaded files occuring (even under light load) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:00:55 -0000 I have an IWILL KK266-R (VIA KT133A/686B) board with an 1.4GHz processor running as a FreeBSD file & web server. The NIC is an Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 (I think it's called, fxp anyway). This board has an AMI RAID controller (CMD 649) onboard, which I use for all four drives (although not in RAID). My problem: Files uploaded to this server are sometimes corrupted. It doesn't have to be under high load, like directly uploading from a computer. It can also occur when I'm downloading from the internet on a computer, and save the file to the server. Another thing that is wierd, is that when the computer is fresh from a boot, there is always a few netstat Oerrs (5-30 I've seen this far) errors occuring when downloading or uploading, and never again. I have run mprime stresstest for a good while, with no complaints. I have also tried another NIC, and also moving the NIC to other PCI slots. I've tried with kernels without APIC, tried disabling ACPI, and I've also disabled throttling. My friend is running a similar setup on his server, although a KT266A chipset, and no RAID controller (southbridge IDE), and it is solid as a rock. Anyone have any ideas what might be causing these corruptions? Chipset? NIC? RAID controller? Regards, Stefan Haglund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:05:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:05:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9059743D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:05:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id o.1e9.38a692c4 (15875); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d10 (mblk-d10.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.194]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID72-3e03424436d6381; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:05:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:05:42 -0500 From: em1897@aol.com Message-Id: <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.194) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:05:42 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <4242e5bc.2543594f.2991.ffffa0d6@mx.gmail.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: subhro.kar@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.194 Subject: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:05:54 -0000 Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the truth. -----Original Message----- From: Subhro To: em1897@aol.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:37:12 +0530 Subject: RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of em1897@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre > > I think that warning people that the good name of "FreeBSD" is being > tainted by the current band of clowns is very productive. Its more like > a religion now; I've never seen so many people in total denial that > their OH NO!!! ANOTHER AOLer. One more entry added to my kill list. THIS IS MY EARNEST REQUEST TO ALL THE LIST MEMBERS. BANDWIDTH IS VERY COSTLY HERE SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT WASTE BANDWIDTH AND TIME BY FEEDING TROLLS. Best Regards S. Indian Institute of Information Technology Subhro Sankha Kar Block AQ-13/1, Sector V Salt Lake City PIN 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:09:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D837016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C220443D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from localhost.circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1])j2PG9Ovx011409; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:24 GMT (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) From: Peter Risdon To: Eric McCoy In-Reply-To: <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:24 +0000 Message-Id: <1111766964.756.343.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Grant Peel cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:38 -0000 On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 10:59 -0500, Eric McCoy wrote: > Grant Peel wrote: > > Is there a quick - secure way to allow the sshd sFTP subsystem to allows > > sftp connections without allowing shell accounts? > > Create the account and set its shell to /sbin/nologin. You can safely > add that to /etc/shells: it does its name and just prints a terse > message before booting the user if he tries to connect via vanilla SSH. Hmmm... I tried that myself before and it didn't work. I get: Received message too long 1416128883 from sftp if I try to log in to an account with /sbin/nologin as the shell. That's why I suggested rssh to the OP. Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:10:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D66A16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B22C43D5A for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emccoy@haystacks.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-98-109-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[24.98.109.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005032516102201300dv610e>; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:10:23 +0000 Message-ID: <424437EF.9070707@haystacks.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:10:23 -0500 From: Eric McCoy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emanuel Strobl References: <200503250813.17984@harrymail> In-Reply-To: <200503250813.17984@harrymail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick timestamp question (ctime/mtime) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:10:23 -0000 Emanuel Strobl wrote: > is it possible that mtime of a file can be changed without also changing > ctime? No. See stat(2), it shows what operations do what. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:11:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDAF16A505 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from enterprise.thenetnow.com (enterprise.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D67443D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:11:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from GRANT (hpeel.ody.ca [216.240.12.2])j2PGBj527457; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Message-ID: <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Eric McCoy" References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:51 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:11:50 -0000 Yes, been trying that all morning. sbin/nologin kills the connection after it prints the message. i have been tring scponly it has been less that workable so far too. -GRant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric McCoy" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: Re: sFTP nologin > Grant Peel wrote: >> Is there a quick - secure way to allow the sshd sFTP subsystem to allows >> sftp connections without allowing shell accounts? > > Create the account and set its shell to /sbin/nologin. You can safely add > that to /etc/shells: it does its name and just prints a terse message > before booting the user if he tries to connect via vanilla SSH. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:15:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAC116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:15:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACEB43D54 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:15:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duo@digitalarcadia.net) Received: from digitalarcadia.net (adsl-68-251-139-244.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net [68.251.139.244]) j2PGFTmU022352; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:15:33 -0500 Received: by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id C4DF51A4830; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:21:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digitalarcadia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F39A1A482B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:21:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:21:38 -0600 (CST) From: Duo X-X-Sender: duo@valkyrie.local To: em1897@aol.com In-Reply-To: <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:15:35 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 em1897@aol.com wrote: > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the truth. > Q: Why are AOL users like Religious Neo-Conservatives? A: They like to pay a high price for their service, despite lower cost alternatives, and will tell you, their way is the only way. Is it any wonder AOL CD's are like Gideon Bibles? Now, piss off, lamer. *plonk* -- Duo Although the Buddhists will tell you that desire is the root of suffering, my personal experience leads me to point the finger at system administration. --Philip Greenspun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:17:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2363516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F2F43D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:10059 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DErUf-0004u2-Jp; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:05 +0000 Received: from http.aseed.antenna.nl (unknown [192.168.0.50]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C60C2841A7; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:19:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.localdomain (f80052.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.80.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31D458C826; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:17:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:17:04 +0100 From: "albi@scii.nl" To: Grant Peel Message-Id: <20050325171704.7bae4034.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:07 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:11:51 -0500 "Grant Peel" wrote: > Yes, been trying that all morning. sbin/nologin kills the connection > after it prints the message. > > i have been tring scponly it has been less that workable so far too. you could set up a jail for that user (or group of users) and let them do regular ftp within localhost from the jail to your host-system, then they have a restricted shell and still can upload/download From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:18:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAAB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:18:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B6543D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 31923 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 16:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.6.164]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Mar 2005 16:18:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:18:48 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: "Texas Consultant" Message-ID: <20050325171848.0476b7b5@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NDIS installation problem with WMP54G v4 wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:18:46 -0000 "Texas Consultant" wrote: > Just put together a new BSD 5.3 machine, and compiled NDIS for use with a > Linksys WMP54g v4 card; it's a wireless card that uses the Ralink RT2500 > chipset. > > Everything works so far; major steps are: > > 1. make ndis > 2. copy over NDIS driver files > 3. make if_ndis > 4. kldload ndis > > However, kldload if_ndis returns an error: > > /sbin/kldload -v /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/if_ndis.ko > kldload: can't load > link_elf: symbol rt2500_sys_drv_data_start undefined > /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/if_ndis.ko: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis. I had a similar problem after updating from 5.3 to 5.4-PRERELEASE. I rebuilded if_ndis, but forgot to first recreate ndis_driver_data.h. After rebuilding ndis_driver_data.h with the right sources it worked again. Could your sources by out of sync with the system? Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:27:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF5916A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:27:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ED243D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.c8.5b7ca517 (15865) for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d46 (mblk-d46.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.230]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID64-3df942443bf2f; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:27:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:27:30 -0500 Message-Id: <8C6FF6EACB969C4-F54-35976@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: 6667 <20050325162431.10708.qmail@web90201.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:27:30 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <20050325162431.10708.qmail@web90201.mail.scd.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.230 Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:27:37 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Boris Spirialitious To: em1897@aol.com Sent: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:24:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A Riddle --- Duo wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you > tell them the truth. > > > > Q: Why are AOL users like Religious > Neo-Conservatives? > > A: They like to pay a high price for their service, > despite lower cost > alternatives, and will tell you, their way is the > only way. AOL web mail is free, you know-nothing idiot. Which not only confirms the riddle, but explains about why you are so wrong about just about everything you've said in the last week. You are a downright riot actaully! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:31:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8430F16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from metrocastcablevision.com (mail.metrocastcablevision.com [65.175.128.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0735C43D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from showe@metrocastcablevision.com) Received: from [192.168.3.22] [65.175.128.10] by metrocastcablevision.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AC4783035A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:28:55 -0500 Message-ID: <42443E47.5010409@metrocastcablevision.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:37:27 -0500 From: Steven Howe User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> <20050325171704.7bae4034.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050325171704.7bae4034.albi@scii.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IMAIL-SPAM-VALHELO: (8586074) Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: showe@metrocastcablevision.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:16 -0000 what about the scponly shell, found in /usr/ports/shells ?? I have no experience with it, but you may want to create a user to use that shell and transfer the files for you..... Here's the pkg-descr steven@peek$ more pkg-descr [Excerpted from the README:] "scponly" is an alternative "shell" (of sorts) for system administrators who would like to provide access to remote users to both read and write local files without providing any remote execution privileges. Functionally, it is best described as a wrapper to the tried-and-true ssh suite. scponly validates remote requests by examining the third argument passed to the shell upon login. (The first argument is the shell itself, and the second is -c.) The only commands allowed are "scp", "sftp-server" and "ls". Arguments to these commands are passed along unmolested. WWW: http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:31:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E860416A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B4943D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B884E37E48; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.177]) by av7-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BFD37E43 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 75DA337E45 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 9638 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2005 16:31:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:31:20 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050325163120.GA9451@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , "albi@scii.nl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> <20050325162152.7a974119.albi@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: "albi@scii.nl" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:31:24 -0000 On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 04:27:12PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:52 +0100, albi@scii.nl wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:54 +0100 > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and > > > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line > > > > > > byte 844 ing ATI chips > > > > in joe you can do a search (^K^F) and then choose (R)eplace, fill in > > "byte" and replacing it by a space is possible, then choose "all" > > > > Can you configure joe it doesnt put byte xxxx when you scroll ? It is not joe which puts those lines. It is the pager that man uses which outputs them (those lines should normally be at the bottom of the page.) Full-screen programs (like man) seem to get a bit confused when running inside joe, probably because joe does *not* supply a full terminal-emulator. I would recommend that you don't run such programs inside joe - just use a normal shell instead. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 16:53:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2CB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:53:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DABF43D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2PGr3j01842; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: em1897@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:53:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> from "em1897@aol.com" at Mar 25, 2005 11:05:42 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: subhro.kar@gmail.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:53:07 -0000 > > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the truth. > Last I knew that was a technique most perfected by the right wing especially when they begin noticing that reality does not correspond to their need to support sagging egos. Sorry about clogging the bandwidth. Could resist taking a shot at a troll. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 70E5016A4CF; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050325170200.70E5016A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:02:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 77B9B16A4D0; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20050325170200.77B9B16A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:04:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D97316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10A343D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stormspotter@6Texans.net) Received: from jacob.6texans.net (adsl-64-109-18-13.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net [64.109.18.13])j2PH4DmU055082 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:04:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:04:12 -0600 From: Jacob S To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325110412.7a17e1c4@jacob.6texans.net> In-Reply-To: <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> References: <4242e5bc.2543594f.2991.ffffa0d6@mx.gmail.com> <8C6FF6BA137AAC0-38C-3528C@mblk-d10.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:19 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:05:42 -0500 em1897@aol.com wrote: > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the > truth. Please don't associate yourself with the conservatives/non-liberals. We don't like trolls either! Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:11:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA95416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:11:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD2943D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2PHBOkL019479; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:11:25 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ann Lee Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:11:35 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <80b681a505032500145b5dd8cf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80b681a505032500145b5dd8cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503250911.35795.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Boot Error and stop at : plip0: on ppbus0 -> FreeBSD v4.8 i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:11:37 -0000 On Friday 25 March 2005 12:14 am, Ann Lee wrote: > Hi All, > > When I try to boot from CD-ROM to install my FreeBSD 4.8 i386 > > my computer stops to work. I do: > > 1) Booting from CD-ROM > 2) Skip kernel configuration. > 3) Then I see: > > [...something before...] > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold > ppbus0: on ppc0 > plip0: on ppbus0 > [That is all. Now he stops.] > > > I have: > SATA Hard Disk > Ultra ATA Storage Controller - Onboard > Intel Pro100MT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - Onboard > > > Any idea? > FreeBSD-4.8 is probably too old for SATA. You will probably have to use something recent such as 4.11 or 5.3. For a new system, I would use 5.3 since 4.11 is now considered legacy. I would move up to trying 5.3 before I worry about why it doesn't boot 4.8. Kent > Cheers, > Ann > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:18:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EAE16A4F8 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:18:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F8F43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:18:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9226E3C2831; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:18:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <424447FA.3020706@toldme.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:18:50 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050323) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <20050325034016.1961.qmail@web54009.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050325034016.1961.qmail@web54009.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: shell stdin redirection: possible for ssh-password input? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:18:57 -0000 Rob wrote: >I take for granted that my password will be there >in clear text! Are there other options? > > Rob, Check out expect. There's even a Perl module for it. Expect is the bad old way we used to handle such problems. It is this funky sub-language designed for completing interactive sessions in an automated way. Also, please post from a legitimate e-mail address, in case someone were sufficiently good-natured to hit "Reply" instead of "Reply All." Good luck. -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE54616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:21:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477D343D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so1200148rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:21:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a6o/sgK/jlnFIEOmPOzcAexMrEt5PgbAgNWMDIukUKcwSzCSLE5Rm8Zz8x/6Tb6L1r9L7gDFvztbeq6tVj9rq9yMXYSG1y0NByYW2r6ZxzQ6nBn34pd9SzzcTsOjDN2iRu7y6RMEDHl1Rs3BG5gT6OILR/t3GiXv8N3x0G0xobE= Received: by 10.38.160.51 with SMTP id i51mr2668141rne; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:21:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: irc msn yahoo shell chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:21:19 -0000 Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style shell chat ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:24:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C35516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shiva.nextrials.com (shiva.nextrials.com [64.81.74.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1A843D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (mito.sr.nextrials.com [192.168.1.102]) by shiva.nextrials.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5556D3C2831; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:24:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42444944.1050907@toldme.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:24:20 -0800 From: Danny Howard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050323) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Dvorak References: <42441D7A.9000106@vdsoft.org> In-Reply-To: <42441D7A.9000106@vdsoft.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix and Queues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:24:21 -0000 Vladimir Dvorak wrote: > > Well, is there any chance to reduce queue to one mail in active queue ? > > The system runs postfix-19991231pl08-29 - I know its very old. Vladimir, I know you can do this in qmail, but not obvious way for me to do with with Postfix. Perhaps you can find the Postfix list and ask there? Vietse is very helpful -- he will scold you as to just which part of the documentation you should have read before asking him. :) Sincerely, -danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:42:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD18516A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:42:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A789643D5E for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:42:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Mar 2005 17:42:52 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 18:42:52 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:42:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> <200503240629.21457@harrymail> <424420ED.7040108@atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <424420ED.7040108@atopia.net> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1434881.vWVs3cjPWc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503251842.31010@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Matt Juszczak Subject: Re: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:42:54 -0000 --nextPart1434881.vWVs3cjPWc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 25. M=E4rz 2005 15:32 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > These options were already set. Any other ideas? otherwise we're going > to have to skip the flash card option and put a hard drive in this box Well, I have no idea other than replacing the card with a generally knwon=20 working one. I had no problems with Kingston CF cards and if you prefer=20 DMA-capable cards I'd recommend SanDisk ultraII. But if your CF-Connector=20 hasn't the neccessary DMA hardwired lines you need to disable ata_dma, thou= gh=20 it's working fine. I'd perfer experimenting, using a rotating HD is no solution. Have you chec= ked=20 your card in any other (ata-mode) device? In what kind of hardware do you=20 plug in your card, Soekris, EPIA, WRAP, or general IDE-CF adapter? =2DHarry > > :-( :-( > > Thank you, > > Matt > > Emanuel Strobl wrote: > >Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 21:02 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > >>Howdy, > >> > >>Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load m0n0wall, > >>which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot errors you see in > >>the paste link below. > >> > >>http://paste.atopia.net/107 > >> > >>We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( Any ideas > >>are appreciated in advance. > > > >Maybe your CF-Card doesn't implement the ATA-Mode correctly. I once had a > > card which had wrong ATA-mode support but it didn't even boot. > >But I don't know why these errors occur, I'd suggest trying the following > >in /boot/loader.conf: > >hw.ata.ata_dma=3D0 > >hw.ata.wc=3D0 > > > >Good luck, > > > >-Harry > > > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Matt > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>!DSPAM:42425048649491091553215! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1434881.vWVs3cjPWc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCRE2GBylq0S4AzzwRAjTOAKCGiAMKBoNFVh5VOz6ArfYNdcuRvQCbBpxy bYM2CAEgg0OezEHBbGKNKEY= =uXd7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1434881.vWVs3cjPWc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:45:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD1516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0837143D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:45:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j2PHis4i056806; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:44:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:44:54 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050325174454.GA59945@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: Frank Staals cc: Lars Eighner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:45:00 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 25), Gert Cuykens said: > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line > > byte 844 ing ATI chips > byte 865 > byte 866 R100 Radeon 7200 > > how do you get rit of byte... That's actually your pager doing that. Joe's "terminal emulator" when in shell mode is exceedingly simple, only understanding newline and backspace. You can run "man radeon | cat" to avoid going through any pagers, and just use pgup/down to page through the text from within joe. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:47:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01F616A4D3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from excite.com (nn6.excitenetwork.com [207.159.120.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F243D3F; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ddlawrence@excite.com) Received: by xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id A1D4E109F20; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from [67.70.116.217] by xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 EST X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 6550c3f88de958cd842f6d04a50b0f2e From: "Don Lawrence" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: ddlawrence@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: losing the war X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ddlawrence@excite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:21 -0000 Hello fellow newbies and hacks. I am 2/3 up with my first freebsd system (v5.3) but it has been a tough 3 weeks. I am ready to call it quits. I need help, and I am willing to pay a modest consultant fee to the hack that can help me get over my problems with: usbd apsfilter or cups wine packages (without an internet connection) thanks......................don ddlawrence@excite.com ps disregard previous flame/anger outburst .. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:47:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D0016A4D5; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsdnerds.org (pcp0011384308pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net [69.248.83.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B5A43D67; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: by bsdnerds.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A77B658A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by bsdnerds.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275266156 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEC457C8B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496416A4D3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:23 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01F616A4D3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from excite.com (nn6.excitenetwork.com [207.159.120.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F243D3F; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ddlawrence@excite.com) Received: by xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id A1D4E109F20; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from [67.70.116.217] by xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 EST X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = 6550c3f88de958cd842f6d04a50b0f2e From: "Don Lawrence" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: ddlawrence@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: losing the war X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: ddlawrence@excite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:31 -0000 Hello fellow newbies and hacks. I am 2/3 up with my first freebsd system (v5.3) but it has been a tough 3 weeks. I am ready to call it quits. I need help, and I am willing to pay a modest consultant fee to the hack that can help me get over my problems with: usbd apsfilter or cups wine packages (without an internet connection) thanks......................don ddlawrence@excite.com ps disregard previous flame/anger outburst .. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:48:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F342916A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:48:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F9743D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:48:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18080 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 17:48:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail21.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Mar 2005 17:48:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A604D2A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:48:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: bsdzz References: <424390C4.8060604@verizon.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 25 Mar 2005 12:48:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <424390C4.8060604@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4464zfzke7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Bill Henderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wmf file browser ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:48:53 -0000 bsdzz writes: > > Google for libwmf - see if that helps > > > I find the main website for libwmf has been taken over by a spammer: > > http://www.wvware.com/libwmf.html > > I thought a library was an enabler for an application, and that to use > this WMF library I would have to use a application that used it. But > I can't find which apps use this WMF library. Since their website > seems to be taken over by a spammer, maybe they are not around anymore? libwmf is in the FreeBSD ports system, and quite a few ports seem to use it (cd /usr/ports;make search key=libwmf). Also note that while you are correct about the difference between a library and an executable program ("application"), libwmf comes with several little programs that use the library to convert wmf files into other formats. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:56:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9776D16A4CE; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emboss.bossbox.com (cpc2-tall1-5-0-cust19.dbln.cable.ntl.com [81.98.89.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DD643D1D; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@bossbox.com) Received: from [172.17.0.2] ([172.17.0.2]) by emboss.bossbox.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2PHuepE018129; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:40 GMT (envelope-from brian@bossbox.com) Message-ID: <424450D8.9030900@bossbox.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:40 +0000 From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ddlawrence@excite.com References: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> In-Reply-To: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: losing the war X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:46 -0000 Don Lawrence wrote: > Hello fellow newbies and hacks. I am 2/3 up with my first freebsd system (v5.3) but it has been a tough 3 weeks. > I am ready to call it quits. > > I need help, and I am willing to pay a modest consultant fee to > the hack that can help me get over my problems with: > > usbd > apsfilter or cups > wine > packages (without an internet connection) > > thanks......................don > > ddlawrence@excite.com > > ps disregard previous flame/anger outburst > . I'd have a read of http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html then try again :-) Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 17:56:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1065B16A4E1; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsdnerds.org (pcp0011384308pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net [69.248.83.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E67F43D31; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: by bsdnerds.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E182F658A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by bsdnerds.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A318B6156 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBACD57756; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2958716A4D6; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:49 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9776D16A4CE; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from emboss.bossbox.com (cpc2-tall1-5-0-cust19.dbln.cable.ntl.com [81.98.89.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DD643D1D; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brian@bossbox.com) Received: from [172.17.0.2] ([172.17.0.2]) by emboss.bossbox.com (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2PHuepE018129; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:40 GMT (envelope-from brian@bossbox.com) Message-ID: <424450D8.9030900@bossbox.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:40 +0000 From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (Windows/20041201) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ddlawrence@excite.com References: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> In-Reply-To: <20050325174719.A1D4E109F20@xprdmailfe1.nwk.excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: losing the war X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:58 -0000 Don Lawrence wrote: > Hello fellow newbies and hacks. I am 2/3 up with my first freebsd system (v5.3) but it has been a tough 3 weeks. > I am ready to call it quits. > > I need help, and I am willing to pay a modest consultant fee to > the hack that can help me get over my problems with: > > usbd > apsfilter or cups > wine > packages (without an internet connection) > > thanks......................don > > ddlawrence@excite.com > > ps disregard previous flame/anger outburst > . I'd have a read of http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html then try again :-) Brian _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50903.mail.yahoo.com (web50903.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48A5A43D5A for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 63830 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 18:08:42 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ElcT+USOQIcnGtHCGVZlkDbz+AK8KPpw7OcjH4MaCsaFF6MwIUYBMSvXiRNvw8BX5GfV01QmHxsLnk3KSYhX0IBtH/W9gFgtYfI8HRn0pMhWXlHjlrz+/mABtRbG/Rv46CatOlJkc7oAq55vKnyjMk4Zd7AmsyhhEWGlw7ihUqw= ; Message-ID: <20050325180841.63828.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.152.100] by web50903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:08:41 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:08:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:08:43 -0000 --- GiGiorgoseKeramidaskekeramidaeceidpupatrasr> wrote: > On 2005-03-24 19:53, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > >--- Dan Nelson wrote: > >>In the last episode (Mar 24), Jonathan Stewart said: > >>> In that case how would I track how much information a process has > >>> actually read from a drive? I occasionally run processes that > >>> will read as much as 40+ gig in a single run which takes quite a > >>> while and on windows :P I can see "bytes read" and "bytes > written" > >>> per process which lets me track how much the program has read so > >>> far and thus get an idea of how close it is to done. Sorry for > >>> the run-on sentence there. > >> > >> I use lslsofwhich can tell you the file offset of each open > >> fifiledescriptor "lslsofo -o20 -p ###" will print all the files > >> currently opened by pipid##, and their current offset. > > > > HmHmmthat almost works but the program opens 1000's of files each > > time. The program is Unison which is a file synchronizer and I > have > > it synchronizing files sets >40GB with and 1000's or more files. > > Based on your description once the file is closed I can't even tell > if > > it was read or not :P > > So, what you are looking for is a single byte count that increases > sequentially for all read() and write() system calls? > Pretty much, yes. To be specific all read() and write() calls for a given process. Even something that counted in 512 byte or UFUFSlocks would be useful. Thanks, Jonathan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:15:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CAB16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:15:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9A143D4C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:15:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:14:55 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050325191455.61eccebc.dick@nagual.st> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kaudiocreator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dick@nagual.st List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:15:10 -0000 kaudiocreator is a nice program for extracting audio tracks and converting them w/ almost any encoder. Only pittfall is hat kde is needed. Is there another program that comes close to the abilities and easy of use of this kaudicreator? -(My WM is fvmw)- I like fast running progs. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:23:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FF616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F130043D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from www.atopia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C3F410C; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from 134.210.7.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matt) by www.atopia.net with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <65203.134.210.7.179.1111774986.squirrel@www.atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <200503251842.31010@harrymail> References: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> <200503240629.21457@harrymail> <424420ED.7040108@atopia.net> <200503251842.31010@harrymail> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Matt Juszczak" To: "Emanuel Strobl" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: Matt Juszczak cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:07 -0000 We're trying to run m0n0wall on a Nexcom Nexgate 1045. The card that came with it is a Sandisk card. The card works in other devices (we can extract the full image to it with no problems). I prefer experimenting too, but the boss really wants it up :-( :-( I can try to hunt down some other cards, but please let me know if you have any other suggestions. > Am Freitag, 25. März 2005 15:32 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > >> These options were already set. Any other ideas? otherwise we're >> going to have to skip the flash card option and put a hard drive in this >> box > > Well, I have no idea other than replacing the card with a generally knwon > working one. I had no problems with Kingston CF cards and if you prefer > DMA-capable cards I'd recommend SanDisk ultraII. But if your CF-Connector > hasn't the neccessary DMA hardwired lines you need to disable ata_dma, > though it's working fine. I'd perfer experimenting, using a rotating HD is > no solution. Have you checked your card in any other (ata-mode) device? In > what kind of hardware do you plug in your card, Soekris, EPIA, WRAP, or > general IDE-CF adapter? > > -Harry > > >> >> :-( :-( >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> Emanuel Strobl wrote: >> >>> Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 21:02 schrieb Matt Juszczak: >>> >>>> Howdy, >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load >>>> m0n0wall, which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot >>>> errors you see in the paste link below. >>>> >>>> http://paste.atopia.net/107 >>>> >>>> >>>> We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( Any >>>> ideas are appreciated in advance. >>> >>> Maybe your CF-Card doesn't implement the ATA-Mode correctly. I once >>> had a card which had wrong ATA-mode support but it didn't even boot. >>> But I don't know why these errors occur, I'd suggest trying the >>> following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 hw.ata.wc=0 >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> >>> -Harry >>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> >>>> !DSPAM:42425048649491091553215! >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:23:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E700716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF7543D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from www.atopia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D89410C; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 134.210.7.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matt) by www.atopia.net with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <53956.134.210.7.179.1111775038.squirrel@www.atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <65203.134.210.7.179.1111774986.squirrel@www.atopia.net> References: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> <200503240629.21457@harrymail> <424420ED.7040108@atopia.net> <200503251842.31010@harrymail> <65203.134.210.7.179.1111774986.squirrel@www.atopia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Matt Juszczak" To: "Matt Juszczak" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: Emanuel Strobl cc: Matt Juszczak cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:59 -0000 Adding to my response below, I'd like to also say that we have two of these units, and both units have failed (with two different readers, and cards). -Matt > We're trying to run m0n0wall on a Nexcom Nexgate 1045. > > > The card that came with it is a Sandisk card. The card works in other > devices (we can extract the full image to it with no problems). > > I prefer experimenting too, but the boss really wants it up :-( :-( > > > I can try to hunt down some other cards, but please let me know if you > have any other suggestions. > >> Am Freitag, 25. März 2005 15:32 schrieb Matt Juszczak: >> >> >>> These options were already set. Any other ideas? otherwise we're >>> going to have to skip the flash card option and put a hard drive in >>> this box >> >> Well, I have no idea other than replacing the card with a generally >> knwon working one. I had no problems with Kingston CF cards and if you >> prefer DMA-capable cards I'd recommend SanDisk ultraII. But if your >> CF-Connector >> hasn't the neccessary DMA hardwired lines you need to disable ata_dma, >> though it's working fine. I'd perfer experimenting, using a rotating HD >> is no solution. Have you checked your card in any other (ata-mode) >> device? In what kind of hardware do you plug in your card, Soekris, >> EPIA, WRAP, or >> general IDE-CF adapter? >> >> -Harry >> >> >> >>> >>> :-( :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> Emanuel Strobl wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 21:02 schrieb Matt Juszczak: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Howdy, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load >>>>> m0n0wall, which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot >>>>> errors you see in the paste link below. >>>>> >>>>> http://paste.atopia.net/107 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( >>>>> Any >>>>> ideas are appreciated in advance. >>>> >>>> Maybe your CF-Card doesn't implement the ATA-Mode correctly. I once >>>> had a card which had wrong ATA-mode support but it didn't even >>>> boot. But I don't know why these errors occur, I'd suggest trying >>>> the following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.ata.ata_dma=0 hw.ata.wc=0 >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Matt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> > > > > !DSPAM:4244570e98971663317813! > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:23:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FD816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay101-f32.bay101.hotmail.com [64.4.56.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28C843D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from therhysmeister@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:23:46 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.56.202 by by101fd.bay101.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.56.202] X-Originating-Email: [therhysmeister@hotmail.com] X-Sender: therhysmeister@hotmail.com From: "Rhys Campbell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 18:23:46.0846 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8B27BE0:01C53167] Subject: KDE on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:47 -0000 KDE on my FreeBSD machine is very slow to start up application. Once the application is open it is very responsive and user input. The K menu is also displayed with speed it's just that any application seems to take several minutes to open. I'm fairly new to *nix so maybe I've missed something obvious. The only thing I can think of is that maybe there are a lot of pocess running in the background that have a higher priority than desktop applications. Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:44:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E5716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:44:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA2BA43D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:43:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Mar 2005 18:43:57 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 19:43:57 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:43:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <1510.134.210.195.128.1111608136.squirrel@www.atopia.net> <200503251842.31010@harrymail> <65203.134.210.7.179.1111774986.squirrel@www.atopia.net> In-Reply-To: <65203.134.210.7.179.1111774986.squirrel@www.atopia.net> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9985498.P1pvReBlFa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503251943.36646@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Matt Juszczak Subject: Re: Issue with FreeBSD, Compact Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:44:00 -0000 --nextPart9985498.P1pvReBlFa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 25. M=E4rz 2005 19:23 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > We're trying to run m0n0wall on a Nexcom Nexgate 1045. > > The card that came with it is a Sandisk card. The card works in other > devices (we can extract the full image to it with no problems). > > I prefer experimenting too, but the boss really wants it up :-( :-( > > I can try to hunt down some other cards, but please let me know if you > have any other suggestions. Okay, I'm not really an ATA expert nor do I know the code, but what I found= is=20 that it could be a LBA/CHS problem. Which version do you use? Have you tried to slice/lable the card inside the= =20 NSA 1045 (from a temporary FreeBSD holding HD)? If I'm right you dump a preformatted image onto the card, maybe you have=20 addressing problems.... I gave up using images, PXE-booting (or installing a HD on machines which h= ave=20 the possibillity) and installing the base system right on the destination=20 hardware turned out to be much safer and is not really more time consuming.= =2E. Mayby playing with BIOS LBA/CHS settings gives some hint's, I don't expect= =20 that, but I'd try that and if that all fails you may want to contact S=F8re= n,=20 the ATA author. =2DHarry > > > Am Freitag, 25. M=E4rz 2005 15:32 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > >> These options were already set. Any other ideas? otherwise we're > >> going to have to skip the flash card option and put a hard drive in th= is > >> box > > > > Well, I have no idea other than replacing the card with a generally knw= on > > working one. I had no problems with Kingston CF cards and if you prefer > > DMA-capable cards I'd recommend SanDisk ultraII. But if your CF-Connect= or > > hasn't the neccessary DMA hardwired lines you need to disable ata_dma, > > though it's working fine. I'd perfer experimenting, using a rotating HD > > is no solution. Have you checked your card in any other (ata-mode) > > device? In what kind of hardware do you plug in your card, Soekris, EPI= A, > > WRAP, or general IDE-CF adapter? > > > > -Harry > > > >> :-( :-( > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> Emanuel Strobl wrote: > >>> Am Mittwoch, 23. M=E4rz 2005 21:02 schrieb Matt Juszczak: > >>>> Howdy, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Does anyone have any ideas on the following? Trying to load > >>>> m0n0wall, which uses a FreeBSD 5 kernel. Keep getting the boot > >>>> errors you see in the paste link below. > >>>> > >>>> http://paste.atopia.net/107 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We really dont want to have to switch back to a hard drive :-( Any > >>>> ideas are appreciated in advance. > >>> > >>> Maybe your CF-Card doesn't implement the ATA-Mode correctly. I once > >>> had a card which had wrong ATA-mode support but it didn't even boot. > >>> But I don't know why these errors occur, I'd suggest trying the > >>> following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.ata.ata_dma=3D0 hw.ata.wc=3D0 > >>> > >>> Good luck, > >>> > >>> > >>> -Harry > >>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Matt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> ----- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> !DSPAM:42425048649491091553215! > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart9985498.P1pvReBlFa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCRFvYBylq0S4AzzwRAobsAJ93oFqf5+6qmvsal0RrdQOjIC1zrQCeNbyE 90DuDoet7YGng/BMck0yaaE= =LfOU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9985498.P1pvReBlFa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:50:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C4516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C0C43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fun@thingy.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C08D133C97; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19546-01-26; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unknown [81.168.120.143]) by mra04.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE3D133C14; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:16 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <42445E10.7060502@thingy.apana.org.au> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:53:04 +0000 From: David Gerard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk Subject: more Cameron Grant info X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:20 -0000 I was asked to forward this URL too: http://www.idea-inc.com/~bee/cam/index.html Please forward to any relevant FreeBSD list or whatever! - d. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 18:56:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2A016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8BF43D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pwaring@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so866144rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:56:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IOL0K/ZbRnVA0mQFlVn2TxWbxeEfeNWQAqq+TFKFh322gQ523C6PsKYo33bWaOXmWvKS+oVdM3EGTYzSrCJuCz0LnNYPq84QnlERbkx2e8iVGgnGVN74od/BdCj7VwLC4YMbGpRcNVJRB4Ci5XRSgkvNJnJCMPQCChwN+GE2jVM= Received: by 10.38.149.17 with SMTP id w17mr463257rnd; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.76.66 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:56:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8953a1db050325105633a8cfb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +0000 From: Paul Waring To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Waring List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:22 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style > shell chat ? I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee: http://www.bitlbee.org/ Paul -- Rogue Tory www.roguetory.org.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 19:00:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216E416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7381E43D64 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:00:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9564AC21; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:00:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:01:17 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325190117.GA94763@epia2.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: firefox and mozilla ports broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:00:53 -0000 Hello, is it just me, or are the firefox _and_ mozilla ports currently broken? c++ -o nsFontMetricsPS.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD5\" -DOSARCH=\"FreeBSD\" -DHAVE_DE PENDENT_LIBS -I../.. -I./.. -I../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../dist/inclu de/string -I../../../dist/include/widget -I../../../dist/include/pref -I../../.. /dist/include/caps -I../../../dist/include/locale -I../../../dist/include/uconv -I../../../dist/include/view -I../../../dist/include/necko -I../../../dist/inclu de/imglib2 -I../../../dist/include/unicharutil -I../../../dist/include/gfx -I../ ../../dist/include -I/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I. -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/ X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcas t-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dto r -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -DXTHR EADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2. 0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/li b/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/loc al/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/ include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h nsFontMetricsPS.cpp nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `nsresult nsFontPSFreeType::Init(nsITrue TypeFontCatalogEntry*, nsPSFontGenerator*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1144: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1145: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'width' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1146: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'height' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `FT_FaceRec_* nsFontPSFreeType::getFTFac e()': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1231: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void nsFT2Type8Generator::Gener atePSFont(FILE*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'width' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'height' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src/p s' gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src' gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx' gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 19:40:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84C516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pth3kpc.mcc.virginia.edu (pth3kpc.mcc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.108.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A3B43D58 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:40:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pth3k@virginia.edu) Received: from pth3kpc.mcc.virginia.edu (localhost.mcc.virginia.edu [127.0.0.1])j2PJcKVs001497 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:38:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pth3k@virginia.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) j2PJcKi8001496 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:38:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pth3k@virginia.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: pth3kpc.mcc.virginia.edu: pth3k set sender to pth3k@virginia.edu using -f From: Ty Hoeffer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:38:19 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050325190117.GA94763@epia2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20050325190117.GA94763@epia2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503251438.20465.pth3k@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: firefox and mozilla ports broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:40:39 -0000 Try going to ports/print/freetype2 and rebuild that port with a make & make install, that fixed it for me. Ty On Friday 25 March 2005 14:01, cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > Hello, > > is it just me, or are the firefox _and_ mozilla ports currently > broken? > > c++ -o nsFontMetricsPS.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD5\" -DOSARCH=\"FreeBSD\" > -DHAVE_DE PENDENT_LIBS -I../.. -I./.. -I../../../dist/include/xpcom > -I../../../dist/inclu de/string -I../../../dist/include/widget > -I../../../dist/include/pref -I../../.. /dist/include/caps > -I../../../dist/include/locale -I../../../dist/include/uconv > -I../../../dist/include/view -I../../../dist/include/necko > -I../../../dist/inclu de/imglib2 -I../../../dist/include/unicharutil > -I../../../dist/include/gfx -I../ ../../dist/include > -I/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr > -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I. > -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -fPIC -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/ X11R6/include -fno-rtti > -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcas t-align > -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dto r > -Wno-long-long -O -pipe -O2 -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 > -DXTHR EADS -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 > -I/usr/local/include/glib-2. 0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/li b/gtk-2.0/include > -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/loc > al/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include > -I/usr/X11R6/ include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `nsresult > nsFontPSFreeType::Init(nsITrue TypeFontCatalogEntry*, nsPSFontGenerator*)': > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1144: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'face_id' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1145: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'width' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1146: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'height' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `FT_FaceRec_* > nsFontPSFreeType::getFTFac e()': > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1231: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'face_id' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void > nsFT2Type8Generator::Gener atePSFont(FILE*)': > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'face_id' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'width' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'height' > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > named 'face_id' > gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1 > gmake[4]: Leaving directory > `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src/p s' > gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx/src' gmake[2]: *** [libs] > Error 2 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/gfx' > gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla' > gmake: *** [default] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Thanks, > -cpghost. -- *************************************************************************** * Ty Hoeffer -- IS Net Engineer -- UVa. Health System/Computing Services * pth3k at Virginia.EDU -- http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/ty * "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. * Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the decision." Ben Franklin *************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 19:41:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9457C16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AAA43D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])299B918001AB for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 124BB4BEAD; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:41:46 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:41:46 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050325194147.124BB4BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: What is it doing?! HP DVD 630i (aka 630c) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:41:47 -0000 Hey. My HP DVD 630c all of a sudden stopped working. It ejects half-way out and = is really difficult to eject back in, or even out when I want that. It won'= t burn any CDs or DVDs, and I can't control it from the computer (reading d= isc info, ejecting it etc). So what's going on? Has anyone experienced this before? My computer (HP DC7100) and its HP DVD 630c are all new, I've barely even u= sed them before this happened! Thanks, -- Fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 19:48:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9DA16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:48:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yak.fluid.com (yak.fluid.com [63.76.105.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246B043D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:48:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darren@3x3x3.org) Received: from boomstick.fluid.com ([63.76.105.102]) by yak.fluid.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43 #1) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 1DEula-0001Xq-62; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:46:46 -0800 Message-ID: <42446B59.4080208@3x3x3.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:49:45 -0800 From: darren david User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gnome_upgrade hangs on accessibility/gnomespeech X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:48:17 -0000 hey all- so i'm in the midst of the gnome_upgrade script -- it ends up getting to gnomespeech and then hangs after configure runs. I'm running 5.3-STABLE as of Jan 27. I've tried restarting a few times with no success. the script is running at 60% CPU - is it possible that there's some magic happening that i'm not aware of? it's been running for quite some time with no output. here's the relevant ( and final ) output from the upgrade log. nothing looks too out of place to me... thanks in advance. ---- [snip] ===> Running /usr/local/sbin/portinstall -O -m "BATCH=yes GNOME_UPGRADE_SH_VER=2.10-3 DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=1" access ibility/gnomespeech INFO: Running /usr/local/sbin/portinstall -O -m "BATCH=yes GNOME_UPGRADE_SH_VER=2.10-3 DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=1" acces sibility/gnomespeech ---> Installing 'gnomespeech-0.3.6_2' from a port (accessibility/gnomespeech) ---> Building '/usr/ports/accessibility/gnomespeech' with make flags: BATCH=yes GNOME_UPGRADE_SH_VER=2.10-3 DISABLE_VUL NERABILITIES=1 ===> Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_1 ===> Cleaning for ORBit2-2.12.1_1 ===> Cleaning for bison-1.75_2 ===> Cleaning for gettext-0.14.1 ===> Cleaning for glib-2.6.3_1 ===> Cleaning for gmake-3.80_2 ===> Cleaning for libIDL-0.8.5_1 ===> Cleaning for libbonobo-2.8.1_1 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.5.10_1 ===> Cleaning for m4-1.4.1 ===> Cleaning for pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 ===> Cleaning for popt-1.7 ===> Cleaning for perl-5.8.6_2 ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 ===> Cleaning for intltool-0.33 ===> Cleaning for libxml2-2.6.18 ===> Cleaning for p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1 ===> Cleaning for gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled ===> Extracting for gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 => Checksum OK for gnome2/gnome-speech-0.3.6.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool15 - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on shared library: glib-2.0.600 - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on shared library: bonobo-2.0 - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on shared library: IDL-2.0 - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found ===> gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 depends on shared library: ORBit-2.0 - found ===> Configuring for gnomespeech-0.3.6_2 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for style of include used by gmake... GNU checking dependency style of cc... gcc3 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking for strerror in -lcposix... no checking whether gcc understands -Wno-sign-compare... yes checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wn o-sign-compare checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd5.3 checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ld used by cc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether c++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of c++... gcc3 checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... c++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... f77 checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes checking whether f77 accepts -g... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... (cached) 65536 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from cc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if cc static flag works... yes checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the cc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by c++... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking for c++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if c++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if c++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for f77 option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if f77 PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if f77 supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd5.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for bonobo-activation-2.0 >= 0.9.1 libbonobo-2.0 >= 1.97.0 ORBit-2.0 >= 2.3.94... yes checking gnome_speech_CFLAGS... -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/ glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 checking gnome_speech_LIBS... -Wl,--export-dynamic -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -l m -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv checking for eciNew in -libmeci... no checking for TextToSpeechSync in -ltts... no test: x: unexpected operator checking for "/bin/theta-config"... no checking for "/usr/local/bin/java"... yes checking for "/usr/local/bin/javac"... yes ---- cheers, darren david From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 19:58:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D7F16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51004.mail.yahoo.com (web51004.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B884A43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:58:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34660 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 19:58:22 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nhn6hYr5EA51hg9qgKp8baRQaVvzMStYE3hRxyAPK76o5cY5YbWTyRbinDJhr8t9/CwJS4aKWOgbfZ0tPE2+NsQRJ4ROGT3P5Q2MM3DGQcYb3EXbUiX4C/OOTcuzVFYH9stYlUeYaQ4TufyJ7eejv0r8v7bC02U+SawsMQXxql0= ; Message-ID: <20050325195821.34658.qmail@web51004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.49.86.137] by web51004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:58:21 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:58:21 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: jason henson In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: remove all xfce4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:58:23 -0000 > portupgrade -faRr, or portmanager. Try cd > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && > make all-depends-list. You don't need to rebuild > unless you have > upgraded a dependancy(then portupgrade or > portmanager will do it for > you) or you want to change build options(then > portupgrade will do it). > yeah, so my problem is that after upgrading gnome-related stuff with gnome_upgrade.sh, my xfce4 stop to work, though they are also re-compiled during the process. So i think I will do it myself, just don't know which one is the most painless... :-) TFC Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 20:31:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354A616A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617F043D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 25932 invoked by uid 207); 25 Mar 2005 20:31:01 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. 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Processed in 0.38156 secs); 25 Mar 2005 20:31:01 -0000 Received: from dialup75.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.75]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 25 Mar 2005 20:31:00 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2PKUsCv006431; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:30:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2PKUrD3006430; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:30:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:30:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jonathan Stewart Message-ID: <20050325203052.GA1680@gothmog.gr> References: <20050325180841.63828.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050325180841.63828.qmail@web50903.mail.yahoo.com> cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:31:05 -0000 On 2005-03-25 10:08, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > --- Giorgos Keramidas keramida at ceid dot upatras dot gr wrote: > > So, what you are looking for is a single byte count that increases > > sequentially for all read() and write() system calls? > > Pretty much, yes. To be specific all read() and write() calls for a > given process. Even something that counted in 512 byte or UFUFSlocks > would be useful. To what end, may I ask? Per process statistics may include byte counts from a few thousand threads that read and/or write from a few hundred descriptors. Even per file descriptor statistics quickly get useless when one considers that a single byte read may cause the read-ahead of a few thousand bytes or that a single write may reach the corresponding device several seconds later. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 20:35:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BB016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:35:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417543D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:35:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [134.93.180.218] (edda.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60441300026A; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:34:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42447600.1060504@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:35:12 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Institut =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=FCr_Geophysik?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050317 X-Accept-Language: de-de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> <42442214.1040008@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <42442214.1040008@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:35:10 -0000 Chuck Swiger schrieb: > O. Hartmann wrote: > [ ... ] > >> Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to >> gather all tarballs from each installed port and its friends it >> depends on. >> Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. > > > Try using "make fetch-recursive" from a port's directory to fetch the > source tarballs for that port and it's dependencies. Note that you > can also create packages from the installed ports and copy those over > to another machine, and install them directly rather than recompiling > everything. > > [ Start with a "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", and the ports system will > create package tarballs automaticly under there... ] > All right, this works, but I still have to check what port is installed. The reason for this uncommon way is, my lab's computer is a i386 machine while at home I would like to run an amd64 based system without IA32 compatibility. Building packages on the source machine isn't an option. Thank you very much for that hint. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 20:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD6516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:49:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A7543D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:49:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6BC63FBE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:49:03 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: 2icx5DHPD0sXw9aV0+bSpg 1111783742 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-66-113.access.as9105.com [80.41.66.113]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E9247F3 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:49:01 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:49:01 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503252049.02498.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:49:05 -0000 On Friday 25 March 2005 14:25, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > I run into the follwoing problem. > Using an internet connected at my lab makes me happy installing each > package I need from source. > At home I have only a very slow moem connection, but I need also the > same packages (not precompiled, > the sources) there. > > One idea was to "fetch" every source tarball of every installed > port-package as reported in /var/db/pkg, > burn /usr/ports/distfiles in conjunction with a up to date > /usr/Ports-tree on one or two DVDs and > the copy this at home on the disk (capacity is not an issue). > > Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to gather > all tarballs from each installed > port and its friends it depends on. > Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. what about portupgrade -Fa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:02:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CC516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:02:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F63A43D4C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:02:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 09DD51C000B8 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:02:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E1B0B1C000B4 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:02:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050325210228924.E1B0B1C000B4@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:02:28 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1111759716.756.318.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242FD8F.2070801@eng.ufl.edu> <1111692868.756.130.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4243342C.50809@eng.ufl.edu> <1111742906.756.260.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac4805032504182716bfc4@mail.gmail.com> <1111759716.756.318.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:02:30 -0000 This discussion seems very strange, since I don't really understand how anyone could effectively use FreeBSD (or any flavor of UNIX) without understanding English in the first place. I've never heard of any localized versions of UNIX (?). More generally, it's virtually impossible to work in the IT field anywhere today without having some reasonable command of English, although I suppose there are a few desert islands somewhere where it isn't absolutely necessary. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:04:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:04:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51306.mail.yahoo.com (web51306.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 207AA43D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:04:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dcpaq2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76251 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 21:04:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=HJmlQbV0ygulZLXWWyOSOLndQcz7VhxLSoMs3JcHD80Fz4IhddO/qAKcl1HCFJIfJZOkXw7A0vp9AF5uvg4R3QJcfqsV0mK9N+yT8BOEjwEF+58Dv4wKNEIQtDktN/VYgVuH8f24pXuq88zRnU7KTX3rFe9PiAok1s2AGzVNM/Q= ; Message-ID: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.75.60.45] by web51306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:37 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:37 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Paquette To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Unsubscribe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:04:38 -0000 Group, Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the various free bsd mailing lists? Thanks Doug __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:08:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0805F16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:08:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095D43D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:08:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E6BEF1C0009E for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:08:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3FD791C00068 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:08:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050325210829261.3FD791C00068@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:08:24 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1171299852.20050325220824@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <1074993623.20050324195325@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:08:33 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > That is right around the time that brand new drives fail, if they are > going to, that is. Well, I got a replacement drive today, so if this one fails, I have another one standing by. I'll need to see more clear indications that the drive is actually in trouble before swapping them, however (I have backups and only /var and /tmp are on the drive, so I can afford to wait and see). The self-tests I run with smartctl show no errors, but the UDMA CRC error count for /dev/ad10 is non-zero, as is the soft error count. I don't know how much I can trust these numbers. > Modern drives with the exception of high end SCSI ones, are as a > friend of mine put it once: "slapped together a million miles a second > on the assembly line" I could buy a dozen of these drives for the cost of one equivalent SCSI drive. SCSI is nice, but it's awfully pricey, for no good reason that I can see, and unless one is running a very heavily loaded server, I'm not sure that I see the advantage to it. I was thinking a few days ago that extremely fast static RAM might be the single best way to boost system performance, but that was just daydreaming. (From what I understand, most modern processors spend most of their time in wait states waiting for memory to reply.) -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:10:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A259216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:10:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C5B43D49 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:10:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.messagingengine.com (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA853C64026 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:58 -0500 (EST) X-Sasl-enc: s46dYetP34CU403utC7hTQ 1111784997 Received: from gumby.localhost (dsl-80-41-66-113.access.as9105.com [80.41.66.113]) by frontend3.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F83247F3 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:09:57 -0500 (EST) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:09:57 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <42441F6E.9010506@mail.uni-mainz.de> <200503252049.02498.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> In-Reply-To: <200503252049.02498.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503252109.58066.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: How download installed packages' sourcesfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:10:00 -0000 On Friday 25 March 2005 20:49, RW wrote: > On Friday 25 March 2005 14:25, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Unforunately "portupdate" does not have a simple functionality to gather > > all tarballs from each installed > > port and its friends it depends on. > > Maybe someone of you has a similar limitation and can help. > > what about > > portupgrade -Fa Actually portupgrade -FRa is more reliable, I think that does make checksum-recursive in the origin of for each entry in the package database From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5435C16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk (mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E3F43D58 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glyn@nowhere.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BEE4060E3; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09124-01-93; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from glynthebearded.millingtons.org (unknown [82.152.120.109]) by mra02.ex.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D67406096; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFA4CC78A2; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:25:38 +0000 (GMT) To: Doug Paquette References: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Triduum: Good Friday, A.D. 2005 From: Glyn Millington Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:25:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> (Doug Paquette's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:37 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87sm2jct9p.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEXWkYmULB0TBwepOiqD KBs+GhWcMSKvaWH40smuSTtD6WtIAAACN0lEQVQ4jV3TQaujMBAA4Ny0x/L6/AFCf8DDR8Bj6UTx uJIs7LEoWXrz4NusN48eC8qT/NudSWIrGyht53NmkmnKsrA+hFIS3ujjnFn7l+3iSooLfrRzliPw xgHFFQA0SW59hoeTjy9QwNVBxzjFuSsEtAS4Hg/f45uqWGuGQSh53cGnLObVMFwHoYo9wMpYPOFi vZL6BafChxEi2toToGQ+Po1swPYbcHiEBEwZlh9zblcHH1X3gmi5POGzfMEY9YWD5n9gA2VYD9U+ Yyie0FaG7UrhiBE0wnthtnMgLPCEE5jOnXxkI57wQjNhCY73JA2uDp/GeUVQZBu00vyBvqT6xkOG oGmGxprIxKObr5xnlA1o5vGIXeJDOcwNZmitGwSMRwTTdCgPAXiTQ8diZgJ0HpIAE0HsAEvlBFo7 GDsH42EdeOIydMOxxzTSrlyP4fstd801p588sl3UYUZfznyDG/zu8BaUSxkjrAi0K66Tm6g6I+jG PaZxsR4afTueFJje3cNyiuA+c+3O0QJezztIuLdQMSOqOXNwgzqlf4C0xtjF9Bs0rUpTFFXZ1ZjB CnXNfIaoAyxwNwOWDXCiOBG2LkyPT/zkWdJkrE0D0N8DC9WpTPgR4T3AmVIA4+kZbgRiD0K55OMl CXCuEXDLSoV2CHUA2phS7luN7ZoAil4Ozr7sZQN/GEoMm2ehs3ruwb/JJ4QntyfUBsLVVyD9IOoA WFOuAn8VAWFCaYDzL6B7/SW/6tTTP146W63Z0ANuAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:11:49 -0000 Doug Paquette writes: > Group, > > Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does > anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the > various free bsd mailing lists? > > Thanks > > Doug > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It should be at the bottom of each mail sent to the list!! As above... hth Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:14:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9206F16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B45243D55 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:14:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Mar 2005 21:14:47 -0000 Received: from pD9E28574.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) [217.226.133.116] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 22:14:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> To: Doug Paquette In-Reply-To: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-D3Q7nsrdHLnKZnydFy6M" Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:14:45 +0100 Message-Id: <1111785285.713.1.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:14:49 -0000 --=-D3Q7nsrdHLnKZnydFy6M Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:04 -0800, Doug Paquette wrote: > Group, >=20 > Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does > anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the > various free bsd mailing lists? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Doug >=20 >=20 > =09 > __________________________________=20 > Do you Yahoo!?=20 > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 read the last line of any message written on the lists. --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-D3Q7nsrdHLnKZnydFy6M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCRH9FaRsDctJfzIERAtlbAJ46K4lQQqxI36UQAyzVYQVTCoUEwwCggGpD 5R0U76GPO/fsnaUvVLUlx54= =4bbg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-D3Q7nsrdHLnKZnydFy6M-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:21:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28AE16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:21:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EC243D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2PLLHc02832; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:17 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503252121.j2PLLHc02832@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: dcpaq2@yahoo.com (Doug Paquette) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> from "Doug Paquette" at Mar 25, 2005 01:04:37 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:21:19 -0000 > > Group, > > Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does > anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the > various free bsd mailing lists? Yes, it is at the bottom of every FreeBSD Email list message - look below. ////jerry > > Thanks > > Doug > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:22:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ED916A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:22:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968F243D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:22:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id d.62.518aecc4 (15899); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d34 (mblk-d34.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.218]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID92-3e1b424481259c; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500 From: em1897@aol.com Message-Id: <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> Received: from 24.47.89.83 by mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.218 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:22:52 -0000 There are 2 kinds of people in America, Jerry. The Rich and those who complain about the Rich. The difference here as opposed to some other countries is that which group you belong to is a personal choice. I respect your choice. You seem very happy in your ignorance of virtually every subject. You "taking a shot" at me is about as entertaining as it gets, Jerry. It really, really is. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister > > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the truth. > Last I knew that was a technique most perfected by the right wing especially when they begin noticing that reality does not correspond to their need to support sagging egos. Sorry about clogging the bandwidth. Could resist taking a shot at a troll. Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:27:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176C816A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:27:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [208.210.80.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE6143D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:27:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benh@jpj.net) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (xlate-4-200.webster.edu [198.246.4.200]) by blues.jpj.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2PLR6jV006661 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:27:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from benh@jpj.net) X-Sender: benh@blues.jpj.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:27:04 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ben Hockenhull X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 208.210.80.156 Subject: Problems compiling UW imapd on 5.3-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:27:08 -0000 I'm trying to get UW's imapd compiled on a 5.3-STABLE system with PAM support, as I'm trying to get imap users to authenticate to an LDAP server. It seems that I need to compile UW IMAP with PAM support to make that happen, as I then hand off auth to PAM, which then hands it off to LDAP via the PADL nss_ldap module. I get the following errors, pasted below. Seems like I need an LDFLAG or something, but I have no idea what. pop benh 22 /usr/src/source/imap-2004c1-test# make bsf SSLTYPE=none PASSWDTYPE=pam make sslnone +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Building in NON-COMPLIANCE with RFC 3501 security requirements: + Non-compliant: ++ TLS/SSL encryption is NOT supported ++ Unencrypted plaintext passwords are permitted + + In order to rectify this problem, you MUST build with: ++ SSLTYPE=nopwd + You must also have OpenSSL or equivalent installed. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Do you want to continue this build anyway? Type y or n please: y Applying an process to sources... tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client tools/an "ln -s" src/charset c-client tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd tools/an "ln -s" src/mailutil mailutil tools/an "ln -s" src/mlock mlock tools/an "ln -s" src/dmail dmail tools/an "ln -s" src/tmail tmail ln -s tools/an . make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=pam SSLTYPE=none IP=4 EXTRASPECIALS='' BUILDTYPE=bsf SPECIALS="GSSDIR=/usr SSLDIR=/usr SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl/certs SSLKEYS=/etc/ssl/private LOCKPGM=/usr/sbin/mlock" Building c-client for bsf... echo `cat SPECIALS` > c-client/SPECIALS cd c-client;make bsf EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=pam SSLTYPE=none IP=4 GSSDIR=/usr SSLDIR=/usr SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl/certs SSLKEYS=/etc/ssl/private LOCKPGM=/usr/sbin/mlock make build EXTRACFLAGS='' EXTRALDFLAGS='' EXTRADRIVERS='mbox' EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS='' PASSWDTYPE=pam SSLTYPE=none IP=4 `cat SPECIALS` OS=bsf SIGTYPE=psx CRXTYPE=nfs SPOOLDIR=/var ACTIVEFILE=/usr/local/news/lib/active RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh BASECFLAGS="-g -O -pipe" BASELDFLAGS="-lcrypt" sh -c 'rm -rf auths.c crexcl.c nfstest.c linkage.[ch] siglocal.c osdep*.[ch] *.o ARCHIVE *FLAGS *TYPE c-client.a || true' Once-only environment setup... echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -O -pipe '' > CFLAGS echo -DCREATEPROTO=unixproto -DEMPTYPROTO=unixproto -DMAILSPOOL=\"/var/mail\" -DANONYMOUSHOME=\"/var/mail/anonymous\" -DACTIVEFILE=\"/usr/local/news/lib/active\" -DNEWSSPOOL=\"/var/news\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -DLOCKPGM=\"/usr/sbin/mlock\" > OSCFLAGS echo -lcrypt > LDFLAGS echo "ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a" > ARCHIVE echo bsf > OSTYPE ./drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news phile dummy ./mkauths md5 pla log echo -DMD5ENABLE=\"/etc/cram-md5.pwd\" >> OSCFLAGS ln -s os_bsf.h osdep.h ln -s os_bsf.c osdepbas.c ln -s log_std.c osdeplog.c ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c ln -s crx_nfs.c crexcl.c ln -s ip4_unix.c ip_unix.c sh -c '(test -f /usr/include/sys/statvfs.h -a bsf != sc5 -a bsf != sco) && ln -s nfstnew.c nfstest.c || ln -s nfstold.c nfstest.c' PAM password authentication echo -lpam -ldl >> LDFLAGS ln -s ckp_pam.c osdepckp.c Building without SSL support ln -s ssl_none.c osdepssl.c cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c Building OS-dependent module If you get No such file error messages for files x509.h, ssl.h, pem.h, buffer.h, bio.h, and crypto.h, that means that OpenSSL is not installed on your system. Either install OpenSSL first or build with command: make bsf SSLTYPE=none `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mail.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` misc.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` newsrc.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smanager.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` utf8.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` siglocal.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` dummy.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pseudo.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` netmsg.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` flstring.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` fdstring.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` rfc822.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` nntp.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` smtp.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` imap4r1.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` pop3.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` unix.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mbx.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mmdf.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` tenex.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mtx.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` news.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` phile.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mh.c `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` mx.c sh -c 'rm -rf c-client.a || true' ar rc c-client.a osdep.o mail.o misc.o newsrc.o smanager.o utf8.o siglocal.o dummy.o pseudo.o netmsg.o flstring.o fdstring.o rfc822.o nntp.o smtp.o imap4r1.o pop3.o unix.o mbx.o mmdf.o tenex.o mtx.o news.o phile.o mh.o mx.o;ranlib c-client.a echo bsf > OSTYPE touch rebuild sh -c 'rm -rf rebuild || true' Building bundled tools... cd mtest;make `cat ../c-client/CCTYPE` -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -c mtest.c `cat ../c-client/CCTYPE` -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o mtest mtest.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/source/imap-2004c1-test/mtest. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/source/imap-2004c1-test. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/source/imap-2004c1-test. pop benh 23 /usr/src/source/imap-2004c1-test# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:29:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD4216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:29:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (postfix3-2.free.fr [213.228.0.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB1A43D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vincent@vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr) Received: from vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (ferreol-1-82-66-171-150.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.171.150]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664CCC097; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:29:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by vincent_bachelier.hd.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9778DC998E; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:29:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:29:46 +0100 From: Bachelier Vincent To: Rhys Campbell Message-ID: <20050325212946.GA1574@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD localhost 5.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE on FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:29:56 -0000 Hi, perhaps you have a problem with you host. Try to edit /etc/rc.conf find hostname if they is not one, set one exemple: hostname="vincent" well, edit /etc/hosts put this: ::1 vincent 127.0.0.1 vincent well, now reload all, perhaps it would go on see ya Le Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 06:23:46PM +0000, Rhys Campbell a écrit: > From: "Rhys Campbell" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:46 +0000 > Subject: KDE on FreeBSD 5.3 > > KDE on my FreeBSD machine is very slow to start up application. Once the > application is open it is very responsive and user input. The K menu is > also displayed with speed it's just that any application seems to take > several minutes to open. > > I'm fairly new to *nix so maybe I've missed something obvious. The only > thing I can think of is that maybe there are a lot of pocess running in the > background that have a higher priority than desktop applications. Any ideas? > > -- Vincent Bachelier Language : Francais / English Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr - Serveurs linux Citation (fortune): The only problem with being a man of leisure is that you can never stop and take a rest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:34:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4363416A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:34:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74F343D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:34:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2PLYVA02961; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:34:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503252134.j2PLYVA02961@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: em1897@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:34:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> from "em1897@aol.com" at Mar 25, 2005 04:22:45 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:34:38 -0000 > > There are 2 kinds of people in America, Jerry. The Rich > and those who complain about the Rich. The difference > here as opposed to some other countries is that which > group you belong to is a personal choice. I respect your > choice. You seem very happy in your ignorance of virtually > every subject. > > You "taking a shot" at me is about as entertaining as > it gets, Jerry. It really, really is. You have a sad life it seems. ////jerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister > > > > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the > truth. > > > > Last I knew that was a technique most perfected by the right wing > especially when they begin noticing that reality does not correspond > to their need to support sagging egos. > > Sorry about clogging the bandwidth. Could resist taking a shot at > a troll. > > Jerry > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:36:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C6D16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:36:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094FC43D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:36:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0IDX00B01FZICI@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0IDX007OAFZIMK@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (enuxgs.eas.asu.edu [149.169.30.26]) (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j2PLZeMC020111 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:35:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:35:40 -0500 From: "Anthony M. Agelastos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <562fd27dd8db8f70bad6f387a1932221@asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg warning & initial installation modifications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:36:17 -0000 Hello all and thank you for your help. I have FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with the Minimal pre-configure install and I have installed X.org 6.8.2. Anyways, I notice when I do a startx, that I get the following output: xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net:0" in "remove" command X still works, however I want things to run as smoothly as possible. In addition to this problem, I was wondering what the best way of installing the base documentation (like manpages for the system commands such as tar) would be? Thank you all for your help. For some further insight into the system, I wanted to mention that when I installed it and it asked me to configure my network via DHCP, I did and it came up with hsd1.ga.comcast.net. as the domain (including the trailing period) and I named the computer iqast. Anyways, before I clicked OK, I deleted the trailing period just because it did not look correct. I have no idea if this little tidbit of information is beneficial or not. I am new to the FreeBSD world (this is my first time playing with it) and I am horrendous at configuring networks, so I apologize now if the problem above is trivial. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125F116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEFF43D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fteg@london.com) Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180])A03061800137 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:40:55 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.49) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 25 Mar 2005 21:40:55 -0000 Received: by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 862B34BEAD; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:40:55 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [213.187.181.70] by ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for fteg@london.com; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:40:55 -0500 From: "Fafa Diliha Romanova" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:40:55 -0500 X-Originating-Ip: 213.187.181.70 X-Originating-Server: ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20050325214055.862B34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: how to beautify gpg+mutt in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:40:56 -0000 hello i'm a stupid newbie. but i'm trying to get a decent gpg+mutt setup. i've generated my public key but i think that signing using that is a bad idea. people get confused, thinking they're attachments that they are unable to open. besides, mutt gives them bad names like untitled(2) or 1.dat. 1) what other options do i have for signing my messages? i like the way hushmail for instance signs my messages: btw this is a signature right ... not the public key? is it easy generating a signature? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Example message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkJEgdgACgkQgrhgoMygEH5zuACgoKvM67sQV6aVK+3oECyZvBMhjFQA oLwM/S0bteviF5SD5wNhBU3DULWs =3DcTDp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 2) that looks, however, kinda messy. is it possible making my signature more good looking? like this, maybe, more consistent and solid? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Example good looking message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) wkYEARECAAYFAkJEgdgACgkQgrhgoMygEH5zuACgoKvM67sQV6aV 0bteviF5SD5wNhBU3DULWs0bteviF5SD5wNhBU3DULWs0bteviF5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- 3) the same applies to the end of my public key. it ends like this: EORr3YWE6W98CMw/QYpjTGmxOIhJBBgRAgAJBQJBgkwYAhsMAAoJEHhe0auuyFds WJsAni5+AYlGlvGI83Py3yBVTs7LL8ZOAJ9jhl7rS+NublDbxLGMeTL6MTxYIw=3D=3D =3D+Wyz being very concerned about aesthetics, that orphan =3D+Wyz really bugs me. is there no way of telling gpg that i want clean slices? *** here is my .muttrc pertaining to gpg: source ~/.gpgrc set pgp_replysign set pgp_replyencrypt set pgp_verify_sig=3Dyes set pgp_sign_as=3D"AEC8276C" set pgp_strict_enc unset pgp_autosign unset pgp_autoencrypt *** and here is my .gpgrc: set pgp_decode_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-ve= rbose --quiet --batch --output - %f" set pgp_verify_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --quiet --batch -= -output - --verify %s %f" set pgp_decrypt_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbos= e --quiet --batch --output - %f" set pgp_sign_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch --quiet --o= utput - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f" set pgp_clearsign_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch --quie= t --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f" set pgp_encrypt_only_command=3D"pgpewrap /usr/local/bin/gpg --batch --quiet= --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always-trust -- -r = %r -- %f" set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=3D"pgpewrap /usr/local/bin/gpg --passphrase-fd= 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?= -u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f" set pgp_import_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f" set pgp_export_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --export --armor = %r" set pgp_verify_key_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --verbose --batch --finger= print --check-sigs %r" set pgp_list_pubring_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch --q= uiet --with-colons --list-keys %r" set pgp_list_secring_command=3D"/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-verbose --batch --q= uiet --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r" set pgp_good_sign=3D"`gettext -d gnupg -s 'Good signature from "' | tr -d '= "'`" what am i missing out on? i appreciate any help i can get ... and i promise to remain in this community till i'm in you people's shoes, so i can return this help to someone as dumb as me :) best wishes, -- fafa --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:43:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0476516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:43:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D463943D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:43:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from David.Bear@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0IDX00I01GAQ8S@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0IDX00EKUGAQXW@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from moroni.pp.asu.edu (moroni.pp.asu.edu [129.219.69.200]) (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id j2PLgQMC020430 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by moroni.pp.asu.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id E787810D1; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:42:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:42:26 -0700 From: David Bear To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20050325214226.GE25901@asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: portupgrade overview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.Bear@asu.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:43:24 -0000 I've used portupgrade for a while without really knowing much about it. I suppose thats a benefit. However, when it comes to really controlling the portupgrade processes, I find the man page of minimal use. Thats becuase the man pages seem to be written for someone who already knows everything that portupgrade is doing, ie there seems to be a lot of a priori knowledge expected of the reader. I am hoping there is better documentation of portupgrade. Something that specifies the reasons behind what it does -- why some of the switches are necessary, how to hold back upgrade of certain ports, how to only allow security updates to happen, etc. Does any such document exist? -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 21:44:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E69016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFD143D3F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:44:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=32802 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DEwbF-0004FS-Uh; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:44:13 +0100 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:64139 helo=workstation.homenet) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DEwbF-0000Ku-0B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:44:13 +0100 From: Danny Pansters To: gpeel@thenetnow.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:44:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503252244.07152.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: danny@ricin.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:44:16 -0000 I experimented with this quite a while ago (~ 2001) and don't remember all the details, but I used scponly and had to prevent the "Welcome to FreeBSD..." text from being shown. That was the message too long problem IIRC. It worked with at least WinSCP and gFTP as clients. You could also consider pulling an stunnel over ordinary ftpd and have no shh access at all except for people who need or are granted shell access. It's not hard to set up, you basically deal with it as if it were a proxy. HTH, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:07:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4055E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:07:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9CC43D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:07:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jeff.wirth@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so861857rnf for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:07:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=HVfamlG6+D85sI5P8sm8jmrTLYuVjys9PI4TgEmWvG1BYWL6uzzX7hxJ///wvppGRFau1AIhQOIM5PHsqSAwYN+rf9eWNXxBoIomJgb4S5SIcZkK3rEOynbhxSgy8kIoZ6moEcTe3kbC+JXBX2W0y9cHHNz18YFonZfuuAy0+D8= Received: by 10.38.150.65 with SMTP id x65mr2860183rnd; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.181.68 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:07:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d2cf6920503251407759fcff0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:07:54 -0500 From: Jeff Wirth To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <002c01c53145$b9c64390$6401a8c0@GRANT> <4244354E.10401@haystacks.org> <004b01c53155$5ce59c60$6401a8c0@GRANT> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sFTP nologin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeff Wirth List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:07:55 -0000 > Yes, been trying that all morning. sbin/nologin kills the connection after > it prints the message. > > i have been tring scponly it has been less that workable so far too. > 'nologin' will work for 'ftp' and things that don't require a password ( i.e. `sudo -u user -s`) 'scponly' is the correct solution for limiting users to scp or sftp. I use it extensively in production for setting up secure, automated file transfers (w/ key auth). Once 'scponly' is installed, it should be a simple matter of adding 'scponly' to /etc/shells and configuring your user's shell accordingly. - jw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:23:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B025516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:23:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53903.mail.yahoo.com (web53903.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 353E543D48 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28171 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 22:23:12 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=VtH2EH7VojUhgeshVs75sRruvW91GfD6dw32kHq5kNpx9X88Yfq/R8clYkKMtPvIg6638UJNpKOo1GyPHF26L7cvK2+OpiPC9CLd8c6gyxd6LxSWg5I9kuBFM6//byq4YqnLvoECk1SdnbH9Jatt5MAPHzL7pSEZl5R32PWnk/k= ; Message-ID: <20050325222312.28169.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.9.63] by web53903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:23:12 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:23:12 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: David.Bear@asu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade overview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:23:13 -0000 it was said: >I've used portupgrade for a while without really knowing much >about it. I suppose thats a benefit. >However, when it comes to really controlling the portupgrade >processes, I find the man page of minimal use. > >Thats becuase the man pages seem to be written for someone who >already knows everything that portupgrade is doing, ie there >seems to be a lot of a priori knowledge expected of the reader. That's the unix way :) >I am hoping there is better documentation of portupgrade. >Something that specifies the reasons behind what it does -- why >some of the switches are necessary, how to hold back upgrade of >certain ports, how to only allow security updates to happen, >etc. > >Does any such document exist? Hello, Try this link: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html HTH, stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:25:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C8516A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:25:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f5.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE2E43D53 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:21 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 208.186.59.238 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:25:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.59.238] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] X-Sender: missive@hotmail.com From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:55:21 +0430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 22:25:21.0235 (UTC) FILETIME=[8806BA30:01C53189] Subject: Re: kaudiocreator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:25:21 -0000 >kaudiocreator is a nice program for extracting audio tracks and >converting them w/ almost any encoder. Only pittfall is hat kde is >needed. > >Is there another program that comes close to the abilities and easy of >use of this kaudicreator? I have actually had some trouble with kaudiocreator lately (taking forever to rip anything). crip is in ports and runs very quickly in a text console. If you want a gui, there is grip. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:32:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654E016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:32:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0737543D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:32:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so922071rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UyygOQTu+w9qi0/c7JQHr0JSE+kPmxKr0puDQSfjbtRNmdp+j/i9y2zFNhQBDWjmINkN6Keup05lrIUhujNh1vUYXo0YNYz3yLaSLTYA5iAZjuMH7nRoULyFaKIFRyo/P9nlQ9gzU7jo19aEmCt2kDkD+DY0Rj/IiO7mX2Bx/B4= Received: by 10.38.81.3 with SMTP id e3mr1889235rnb; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:32:16 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20050325174454.GA59945@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4242FC50.3070702@zonnet.nl> <20050325123104.GA2509@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050325063815.E70201@goodwill.io.com> <20050325174454.GA59945@dan.emsphone.com> cc: Frank Staals cc: Lars Eighner cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for a shell editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:32:17 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:44:54 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 25), Gert Cuykens said: > > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and > > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line > > > > byte 844 ing ATI chips > > byte 865 > > byte 866 R100 Radeon 7200 > > > > how do you get rit of byte... > > That's actually your pager doing that. Joe's "terminal emulator" when > in shell mode is exceedingly simple, only understanding newline and > backspace. You can run "man radeon | cat" to avoid going through any > pagers, and just use pgup/down to page through the text from within > joe. > Alrigdy that defenatly works :) thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:39:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7108116A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:39:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7D243D54 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so906020rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:39:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JAxT6qN+DVD21zKR/BYuFlTSwIxTZLxckOofSdNihrVuqAW4T6V/NRblMyVq+7m2/cLET0R1xnQjcsnSuAXTHCVmJZelTEX7esXerAcaheSOJ7Ni+9Fn0XIcbmaXkoLHCcLLLYCSiB2iX0jWK5Xd2KRvbJ51n1JcVT8yrMMn2ws= Received: by 10.38.149.17 with SMTP id w17mr610264rnd; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:39:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:39:42 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Paul Waring In-Reply-To: <8953a1db050325105633a8cfb2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8953a1db050325105633a8cfb2@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:39:43 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +0000, Paul Waring wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style > > shell chat ? > > I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee: > > http://www.bitlbee.org/ > looks promising :) Do we have a port on that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:41:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9E316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:41:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9C43D55 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:41:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so906247rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:41:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FEBm0iezxFJ/6OT++zc9Y4b9eePIpM3M+iEWju3NfrW+iJinPLjO6tU+RUwr++YybGgAp/YYjnIBgLvmD2HyYwF5mZ/fEOJpPAa2tRr2RR/XhEMWH975Rk2JCiAqDZ0QfL5/lyiwZJw8Y6AbtX93b0m9i2czBXUP6bd5qGkefVk= Received: by 10.38.67.27 with SMTP id p27mr605660rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:41:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:41:08 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: "em1897@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:41:09 -0000 I'm glad this has to deal with FreeBSD related question. Thank you for expanding the minds of those subscribed to this mailing list with your intricate question outlining in the most detail the problem you're having with your specific task. You're either a dumbass, or a 12 year old. I prefer to choose the latter and hope for the best in your growth and development. Many Thanks, Tomas On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > There are 2 kinds of people in America, Jerry. The Rich > and those who complain about the Rich. The difference > here as opposed to some other countries is that which > group you belong to is a personal choice. I respect your > choice. You seem very happy in your ignorance of virtually > every subject. > > You "taking a shot" at me is about as entertaining as > it gets, Jerry. It really, really is. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister > > > > Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? > > > > A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the > truth. > > > > Last I knew that was a technique most perfected by the right wing > especially when they begin noticing that reality does not correspond > to their need to support sagging egos. > > Sorry about clogging the bandwidth. Could resist taking a shot at > a troll. > > Jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:43:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EFE16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:43:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094B043D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so906701rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Ku8SCIVkzTf7jslF91rGfN9vXpo6tMnZm4TAtrpnP4dY6HS8i4HllDymAZuSNz7NQi4G/txalIKbOUfR/4OYHynoHHWtpEqSXvXHWEgRM5lmI8fjDi7t1N7psaqADTHZZyL1x90Z6M7Wbz3nd3djXPwyuHPK8Mm0KeBUsj+Ud/c= Received: by 10.38.74.18 with SMTP id w18mr608713rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:43:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e05032514434c928b69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:43:45 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: Doug Paquette In-Reply-To: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325210437.76249.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:43:46 -0000 The line you're looking for resembles a little something like this: _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:37 -0800 (PST), Doug Paquette wrote: > Group, > > Sorry to have to ask this question here, but does > anyone have the address to where I unsubscribe to the > various free bsd mailing lists? > > Thanks > > Doug > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:51:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CD016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from keymaster.look.ca (delta1.look.ca [207.136.80.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1FC43D41 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david+dated+1112223087.d97a30@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com ([209.161.205.12]) by keymaster.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1DExeL-0008O6-Q9 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:29 +0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) id j2PMpTXk050727 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1112223087.d97a30@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.12.8p1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j2PMpSuf050703 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id j2PMpRWY050702 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1112223087.d97a30@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1112223087.d97a30@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:25 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: David Banning X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.2 (Bold Forbes) X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: david+dated+1112223087.d97a30@skytracker.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on psi.look.ca X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=9.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Version: 3.1 (built Tue Feb 24 05:09:27 GMT 2004) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Subject: how to auto connect to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:32 -0000 My win boxes are using freebsd as a gateway to the internet through a hub. I have to set the ip address for each machine and setup the gateway address in each winbox. They do not find the gateway address automatically. I have been doing it this way for years. I am just wondering if it is possible to have the win boxes auto detect the gateway address and agree with freebsd what each win IP address will be automatically as is done with a router-switch. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:51:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B97316A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26DA43D46 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EA360D6; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:51:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65494-09; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:51:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD58D60DB; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:51:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:52:26 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomas Quintero References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: "em1897@aol.com" Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:51:50 -0000 Tomas Quintero wrote: > I'm glad this has to deal with FreeBSD related question. Thank you for > expanding the minds of those subscribed to this mailing list with your > intricate question outlining in the most detail the problem you're > having with your specific task. > > You're either a dumbass, or a 12 year old. I prefer to choose the > latter and hope for the best in your growth and development. > > Many Thanks, > > Tomas > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:22:45 -0500, em1897@aol.com wrote: > >>There are 2 kinds of people in America, Jerry. The Rich >>and those who complain about the Rich. The difference >>here as opposed to some other countries is that which >>group you belong to is a personal choice. I respect your >>choice. You seem very happy in your ignorance of virtually >>every subject. >> >>You "taking a shot" at me is about as entertaining as >>it gets, Jerry. It really, really is. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jerry McAllister >> >>>Q: Why are FreeBSD users like Liberals? >>> >>>A: They panic and start to call you names when you tell them the >> >>truth. >> >>Last I knew that was a technique most perfected by the right wing >>especially when they begin noticing that reality does not correspond >>to their need to support sagging egos. >> >>Sorry about clogging the bandwidth. Could resist taking a shot at >>a troll. >> >>Jerry Yanno - as odd as this seems, and as of late - this list seems to be resembling those Linux lists I used to be on some time ago. There seems to be lots of finger pointing, name calling, and in general - a total break down of common decency to our fellow user. Now I do understand that we'll get a troublesome user from time to time, but must we really sink to the depths of that user to prove a point? If we're to prove a point to those that name call, are rude, troll, and all the other recent events, we must do so on our level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they spew, and we must simply either ignore it (the correct way imho) Kill em with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that the user has no idea what we're saying. Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it goes too far. Over and out... -- Best regards, Chris Opportunity always knocks at the least opportune moment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:53:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E3E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF5A43D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomasq@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so908300rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=S+8iu/crDIgJkvjXOSuyQJs52buSZoly0JC9sh2tP9m69HFn5iW3cU8pxtxoZ6vTi6gk7aACEM6TIfkx7q7qfyckWRZs0eyAJpJlLi5YiNXgwAS60Q877mohp26xxDcCeExP+6pzc/4V8yV8S5MVGFesL9pNmAZhlGac4UGkM+s= Received: by 10.38.9.52 with SMTP id 52mr992536rni; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.71.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e46c99e0503251453720a7158@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:53:31 -0500 From: Tomas Quintero To: David Banning In-Reply-To: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to auto connect to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomas Quintero List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:34 -0000 Have you tried setting up a DHCP server on your FreeBSD box? On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:51:25 -0500, David Banning wrote: > My win boxes are using freebsd as a gateway to the internet > through a hub. I have to set the ip address for each machine > and setup the gateway address in each winbox. > > They do not find the gateway address automatically. > I have been doing it this way for years. I am just wondering if it is > possible to have the win boxes auto detect the gateway address and > agree with freebsd what each win IP address will be automatically > as is done with a router-switch. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -Tomas Quintero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:53:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5716A4D8 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC49643D1D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so908308rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Qk3Ad2/UuN8EcQOeR6A/gAL1kwveudRDHz+kvPz4Z7udypFMuBA9go7AsL64XciEg6cLvEB/Gr5u89LjlK4+6T8nz29A5HBZ2K6qVh/5TjgjhwxLds7ubG+3y3a9WkcP1IzZgqE+RmF8A/0U9Ry/ZS8RCkTWC319+Vhhc6LcU9A= Received: by 10.38.67.27 with SMTP id p27mr613619rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:53:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:53:35 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Paul Waring In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8953a1db050325105633a8cfb2@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:53:36 -0000 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:39:42 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +0000, Paul Waring wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style > > > shell chat ? > > > > I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee: > > > > http://www.bitlbee.org/ > > > > looks promising :) Do we have a port on that ? > yep :) /usr/ports/irc/bitlbee From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 22:57:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40E216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:57:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51001.mail.yahoo.com (web51001.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7661C43D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfcheng@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12092 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 22:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20050325225733.12090.qmail@web51001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.49.86.137] by web51001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:33 CST Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:57:33 +0800 (CST) From: "T.F. Cheng" To: jason henson In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: remove all xfce4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:57:35 -0000 > > > portupgrade -faRr, or portmanager. Try cd > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && > make all-depends-list. You don't need to rebuild > unless you have > upgraded a dependancy(then portupgrade or > portmanager will do it for > you) or you want to change build options(then > portupgrade will do it). > mmm..... what should I do if I have done pkg_delete *xfce* ? I don't have the xfce4 package registry in /var/db/pkg now, but I still have a lot of xfce4 app under /usr/local/bin.... Best Regards, Tsu-Fan Cheng _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µn°O§K¶Oªº @yahoo.com ¤¤¤å¹q¤l¶l¥ó @ http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://chinese.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:33:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C6716A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:33:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE4443D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so913943rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:32:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rEcpH8BhNtxvl/kim0jbS2EW92gbSAiNNiIkDmT9+CwOmFKddPfgkby8yPEHZTtAwuYWY4NYC9phiIEhipIw0PnlbjCYJnZu2DFiK9PDEE9y0mWKpqjV1IzcRSM7/gyHTiINljUs82123NoQxDcR1s+NTj8204+t8PFmpGjijdA= Received: by 10.38.74.18 with SMTP id w18mr637431rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:32:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:32:59 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:33:00 -0000 This is the shell config file right ? I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? FX-53# pw user show gert gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh FX-53# pwd /usr/home/gert FX-53# ls -all total 609272 drwxr-xr-x 3 gert wheel 512 Mar 26 00:18 . drwxr-xr-- 3 root wheel 512 Mar 19 22:44 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 gert wheel 802 Mar 25 13:12 .cshrc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:37:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97E16A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:37:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web26507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 562A643D31 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:37:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdbod@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 4549 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Mar 2005 23:37:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20050325233746.4547.qmail@web26507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.55.150.153] by web26507.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:37:46 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:37:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Tim Preece To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: dhclient where to get dhclient-2.0pl5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:37:48 -0000 Hi fellow BSD'ers, I am having real problems with dhclient and connections dropping sporadically, sometimes a minute and others 10 hours or anything in between. The setup is 5.3 running PF, the box is connected to a router+modem running in half-bridge mode which requires DHCP. After a couple of weeks of searching and trying to establish whether the problem was my router, firewall, other security settings or the dhclient I have found David Gerard's workaround email titled: 'WORKAR?OUND: dhclient problems in 5.3-RELEASE'. In his email he mentions getting dhclient-2.0pl5 from isc.org which I decided to get, however on the site they are only offering versions 3.0.2 and 3.0.3b1. I am trying to keep the number of installed ports to a minimum on the server that needs to run the DHCP client, so I do not want to install much although I may install a different FTP client if needed. If I try and ftp to ftp.isc.org, the standard ftp client with FreeBSD does not seem to work with the site, I get 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||24431|) 500 Bad EPRT protocol. 500 Illegal PORT command. 425 Use PORT or PASV first. and if I try PASSV I get ?Invalid command. So my questions are: o Is the dhclient-2.0pl5 in the ftp site ? o If so can I get ftp to work with the site (I am behind a pf firewall) with NAT ? o I can navigate the ftp site and maybe get so if I cannot get ftp to work with the site if someone could let me know the path, I might be able to get the file ? o Where else that is trusted may I get the src ? o Will version 3.0.2 also solve the problem ? Thanks for any help on this matter. Tim Preece Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:40:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5551416A4CF for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BC643D2F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEyP5-0007tm-Dm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:39:47 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:39:47 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:39:47 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:40:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-25, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: > This is the shell config file right ? > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but > nothing happens ? > > FX-53# pw user show gert > gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh ^^^^^^^ The user isn't using csh, so thus their shell won't read (and probably isn't able to read) the .cshrc file which you've specified. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRKHuk/lo7zvzJioRArGAAJkBFLEM2T2UiAQx6edfuXqJZbvg6gCgqczc s0TKZAKc5WfuTfd6TyIgOVM= =9A5o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:41:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D653016A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA143D1F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 5F3E337E4F; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:41:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1C237E4D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:41:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B13F37E43 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:41:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 12870 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2005 23:41:52 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:41:52 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:41:56 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:32:59AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > This is the shell config file right ? .cshrc is *a* shell config file. To be more precise it is the file that csh/tcsh (usually) reads in when started. (For details on exactly what files is read at startup by this shell read the csh(1) manpage.) Other shells read other files. (sh looks at .profile, zsh uses zshenv/zlogin/zshrc, etc.) Read the manpage for each shell to find out all the messy details. > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but > nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? > > FX-53# pw user show gert > gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh > > FX-53# pwd > /usr/home/gert > > FX-53# ls -all > total 609272 > drwxr-xr-x 3 gert wheel 512 Mar 26 00:18 . > drwxr-xr-- 3 root wheel 512 Mar 19 22:44 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 gert wheel 802 Mar 25 13:12 .cshrc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:53:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E50916A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:53:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745843D2D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:53:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845874B27B; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:47 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Ty Hoeffer Message-ID: <20050325235347.GA146@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20050325190117.GA94763@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <200503251438.20465.pth3k@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503251438.20465.pth3k@virginia.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox and mozilla ports broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:53:21 -0000 On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 02:38:19PM -0500, Ty Hoeffer wrote: > > is it just me, or are the firefox _and_ mozilla ports currently > > broken? > > > > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > > named 'height' > > nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member > > named 'face_id' > > Try going to ports/print/freetype2 and rebuild that port with a make & > make install, that fixed it for me. Thanks for the hint Ty. I'll report back if it doesn't solve the problem. Kind regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 25 23:55:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904A216A4CE for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:55:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0330243D39 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:55:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1284520rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:55:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ko8MdgWnoQLZbN2JWnSgZ/HBWOUjrFsKt2vB9LMb1zx0yXlzXW4ziYw7vkzDkJN6O3k6OH3aRJ6PZ6FZ6v4dwZme6stqyDh6qjaAWm19VcD8RHxFatk95qxSBoNurSpUUeTiRvIQ3QRAkjSuKOa7kREfF1xrriT4hVatAA8pys0= Received: by 10.38.165.79 with SMTP id n79mr2920511rne; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:55:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:55:17 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:55:18 -0000 > > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but > > nothing happens ? > > Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? This :) FX-53# cat .cshrc # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias la ls -a alias lf ls -FA alias ll ls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# " set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif FX-53# So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh shell. What brings me to the following question , What is the best shell to use :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:08:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EEA16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:08:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F2843D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:08:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([69.172.31.81]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050326000847.ZBJP4618.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:08:47 -0500 From: To: "David Banning" , Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:08:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: how to auto connect to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:08:49 -0000 This install guide will walk you through step by step to set ip private LAN behind FreeBSD gateway Box and fix your problems. http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Banning Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:51 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to auto connect to freebsd My win boxes are using freebsd as a gateway to the internet through a hub. I have to set the ip address for each machine and setup the gateway address in each winbox. They do not find the gateway address automatically. I have been doing it this way for years. I am just wondering if it is possible to have the win boxes auto detect the gateway address and agree with freebsd what each win IP address will be automatically as is done with a router-switch. -- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:19:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365A116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:19:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chiton.net (adsl-67-115-187-46.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [67.115.187.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB25A43D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:19:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ppoteete@chiton.net) Received: (qmail 20100 invoked by uid 399); 26 Mar 2005 02:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dualxeon) (192.168.0.150) by adsl-67-115-187-41.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 02:10:26 -0000 From: "Paul W. Poteete" To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:19:40 -0800 Organization: Chiton, Inc. Message-ID: <00b701c53199$80586080$9600a8c0@dualxeon> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: sendmail.cf and clmilter.sock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ppoteete@chiton.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:19:22 -0000 In sendmail.cf, find the "#Input mail filters" option, and add the following information. # Input mail filters O InputMailFilters=clmilter Xclmilter, S=local:/var/clamav/clmilter.socket The above statement is taken from http://www.sendmail.org/~gshapiro/8.10.Training/milterconfig.html Let me know if this helps, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:22:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D212E16A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5569343D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:22:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF3460DA; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:22:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66109-05; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:22:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84DB60D6; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:22:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4244AB6B.4000703@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:23:07 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:22:28 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >>>I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but >>>nothing happens ? >> >>Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? > > > This :) > > FX-53# cat .cshrc > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ > # > # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell > # > # see also csh(1), environ(7). > # > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > > # A righteous umask > umask 22 > > set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) > > setenv EDITOR joe > setenv PAGER more > setenv BLOCKSIZE K > > if ($?prompt) then > # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up > set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# " > set filec > set history = 100 > set savehist = 100 > set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) > if ( $?tcsh ) then > bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word > bindkey -k up history-search-backward > bindkey -k down history-search-forward > endif > endif > FX-53# > > So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh > shell. What brings me to the following question , What is the best > shell to use :) Useing vipw (as root) change the users shell from: /bin/sh - to - /bin/csh That's all -- Best regards, Chris Performance is directly affected by the perversity of inanimate objects. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:23:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D21F16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:23:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0874943D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:23:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 9328637E59; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av1-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BF837E4E for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EFC137E42 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 20252 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Mar 2005 00:23:11 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:11 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:23:15 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:55:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but > > > nothing happens ? > > > > Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? > > This :) > > FX-53# cat .cshrc [snip] That was not decription of anything happening. It was just the contents of a file. If you meant that you expected that file to be read when you started a shell, and that you did start such a shell, then you should say so. > > So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh > shell. Historical reasons mainly. > What brings me to the following question , What is the best > shell to use :) Whichever one you prefer is obviously the best one for you. Personally I prefer zsh. Other people have other preferences. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:33:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6B516A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C074A43D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:33:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so972136rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:33:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=peNctcYafdKFA+/NQvtgBGoowVID01rDt70NNohMxYGc6On2mqBeFPKwwhctzQUML51sjXZf37Cp3e3DuXIq1T/+PQWX3+3scH9/T8c1ylFLUGz1BoBg9KJg74s+jjd2EF4qrpXSNcRyPdsf/057Q8wBqlNuPSUFeh65uK1aly8= Received: by 10.38.151.33 with SMTP id y33mr2948934rnd; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:33:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:33:11 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:33:12 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:11 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:55:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but > > > > nothing happens ? > > > > > > Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? > > > > This :) > > > > FX-53# cat .cshrc > > [snip] > > That was not decription of anything happening. It was just the contents > of a file. If you meant that you expected that file to be read when > you started a shell, and that you did start such a shell, then you > should say so. > > > > > > So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh > > shell. > > Historical reasons mainly. > > > What brings me to the following question , What is the best > > shell to use :) > > Whichever one you prefer is obviously the best one for you. > Personally I prefer zsh. Other people have other preferences. > Whats the difference between csh ans sh ? Why do you like zsh ? Cant be that much difference right ? PS wich shell gives you a command over view when you double tab like on a linux box ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:36:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA1616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:36:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2641743D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:36:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g11so1324932rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:36:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IzCIMX3nMLBsP4U1FT/8OGvc0/2u/0hbmarqvMn2tBYkrAwFViwYVHvKQfAUpQciY1rmNR3N/+Ko1O/t8W0LJIo8ZbRbEI7ntpvKmX3UBKoJHgikV/3V81pdSoMTO3AEFcIK7tegaulsyO9DsSi6dA+bkgXnPhDFncZzNZDQKZU= Received: by 10.38.160.51 with SMTP id i51mr2950657rne; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:36:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:36:05 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:36:06 -0000 Is .profile read by every shell ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:47:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778DE16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:47:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87643D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so922723rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:47:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qktq0oyscR4sXxOkLxm0McvZzkzpmShkHBMO3xFwGl2xuMSO7sSzIZY9P/XPJepH+OuLPNOsSIgcYR6UYjf9eHxuOljykCaOx2xf0q+IR9QFhbFYJaI8SBl/Bs01VD5qSOdYuc5Or3edJ2XfyT0warqC8iQDQpB3ns18z93GdIM= Received: by 10.38.74.18 with SMTP id w18mr676052rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:47:13 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:47:14 -0000 Is .profile read by every shell ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:55:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385B416A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:55:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567C143D41 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:55:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DEzZh-0007PM-2L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:54:49 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:54:49 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:54:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:55:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: > Is .profile read by every shell ? No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad, IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file (depending upon what you've placed in it). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRLM/k/lo7zvzJioRAk+cAKCUNn8Qj4vRQO5v7FD1LRm2gc1tswCfWHRG qfTAothpPrSG3q+69KQDG9M= =C3AA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 00:56:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CDB16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:56:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23B343D41 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:56:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khaled.abu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so850483wra for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aP9Ti0kAvIuM0CAQUlBXCaeKFBIrtrOMh8vfLvsxDsrE6ki5EECYilOM86UkAb2pMbMxrR6jMVINUugVG4LnoftEi2PWEEPJ/brrVZhH+IIWR9gZ2y/v4Fw5G7hHz+vFEc7lS+/BYUNy88ENlGhlp/pY6Oq2UttMkBHPp1SVuZM= Received: by 10.54.41.50 with SMTP id o50mr161289wro; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.23.34 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:56:04 +0200 From: Abu Khaled To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Abu Khaled List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:56:05 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:47:13 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Is .profile read by every shell ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > AFAIK only "sh" reads ".profile" -- Kind regards Abu Khaled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 01:30:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3113D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:30:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (english-breakfast.cloud9.net [168.100.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885C543D55 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.net) Received: from english-breakfast.cloud9.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED318D40C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net (250-119.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.250.119]) by english-breakfast.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6C9D3C3 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CFD11486 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00579-07 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 82E8311454; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:30:31 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050326013031.GA2973@keyslapper.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050324010557.GC1952@keyslapper.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050324010557.GC1952@keyslapper.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.keyslapper.net/~leblanc/leblanc-at-keyslapper-net.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.net X-AntiVirus: Checked by Vexira Antivirus v1.5 Subject: Re: Wireless Keyboard/Mouse setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:30:35 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I'm responding to my own message - and thanks go out to Robert Huff for his suggestions after my original post. They set me in the right direction, but weren't quite as helpful as I'd hoped. I've gotten this problem solved well within my threshold, mostly through a little digging and just plain stubbornness. The goal was to get my M$ Wireless Optical Desktop Pro working in conjunction with my M$ Optical Trackball. I know, that's a lot of M$ for a FreeBSD dude. To that I say, their software may suck, but their hardware is really good. Anyway, here's what I've discovered while trying to get it set up on FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE-p3: You MUST use the PS/2 adaptor that comes with it, and plug both in. The PS/2 plug goes into the keyboard port, the USB plug goes into the adaptor, which then goes into the PS/2 Mouse port. You can get the keyboard working with just the USB port plugged, but not the mouse, and you won't get any of the "special" keys - audio in my case. My mouse has the regular buttons, with the wheel, plus a couple tiny thumb buttons, and the left/right "sway" controls on the wheel. I would have liked to get these working, but I really wanted at least the three buttons and the wheel scroller working (5 buttons with Z dir). Now, my trackball has 5 buttons (including the wheel button) plus the scrolling, so that was set up as a 7 button mouse. I had to play a couple games with the order of the buttons to get it working right though, because the wheel scrolling is ALWAYS the last two buttons, so that would mean the scrolling was set up as buttons 6 and 7 on the trackball, and 4 and 5 on the mouse. Needless to say this will cause trouble. The following line in my .xsession file fixed that though: xmodmap -e "pointer =3D 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" Now that I think of it, this may be part of the problem getting the little thumb buttons working, so I figured I'd try removing that. More to say I covered all the bases than anything else. No good. I don't know why. I suddenly get reads for buttons 1 through 7, and they did match between the trackball and the mouse. Still, it didn't work, even with the same ZAxisMapping configs. Go figure. Anyway, the xmodmap line stays. And here's my pointer configs: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "ThumbBall" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "Device" "/dev/ums0" Option "Resolution" "1000" Option "Buttons" "7" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "7" # Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" # Not sure why this won't work Option "Protocol" "Auto" EndSection When I tried the ZAxisMapping setting of "6 7" for Mouse0, it quit working right. I don't know why. You can tell which is which. Now I have my trackball working with it's little side buttons acting the Forward and Back quickies in Firefox. That's the only place I've gotten them doing anything useful anyway, so I don't care that much. My mouse has full functionality of its wheel and 3 buttons, and my keyboard does what I want it to. I haven't configured all the buttons yet, but I got my quick desktop changers, screen lock, mail (mutt), browser (Firefox) and messenger (Gaim) hotkeys working fine. Here's my keyboard config: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "microsoftmult" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection And to get the pointers playing nicely, I have the following in my ServerLayout section: InputDevice "ThumbBall" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Mouse0" "SendCoreEvents" Now, remember that this mouse has a tilt wheel as well. I figure that's two more button signals. If I ever decide I don't use the trackball enough, I might try just removing it and hunt down the full functionality for that mouse. For now though, this is Good Enough for me. Hope this helps someone. Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD-at-keyslapper-DOT-net Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) Please send off-list email to: leblanc at keyslapper d.t net Key fingerprint =3D C5E7 4762 F071 CE3B ED51 4FB8 AF85 A2FE 80C8 D9A2 question =3D ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRLs3r4Wi/oDI2aIRAnFZAJ4qWT1svkPiWRX6uKCqokiweyAacwCfSJ7S ovG+9UKmB9S3jO6rw4KzFZ8= =m3xN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 01:35:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39D916A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E97F43D4C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so929178rng for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:35:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=S5q/UL8MPhmd2ICagSSY0Vq2mFHJabK0y1ThDMplfFUY5r6WmmIORTGUIXgZavC85rb/NRuL/t/yfNr+Z1l9ojlQXSBBwqsUJ5FoA1c3Bep6hYqNGAT8JsoM/SsFusaHLWycKRcf7R+38zlOKkYmGO8uCCnugFj5OrjSG3IYjvI= Received: by 10.38.10.3 with SMTP id 3mr707343rnj; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:35:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:35:17 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:35:19 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:45 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Nehren wrote: > > Is .profile read by every shell ? > > No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and > the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad, > IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein > I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file > (depending upon what you've placed in it). > I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that shows every command or file :) Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 01:49:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FB016A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:49:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52605.mail.yahoo.com (web52605.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D857843D1D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davidclear@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52364 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2005 01:49:40 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=oYHeosyFueTrkkkQgm1dbsy8cIvgi3lRW64HGQwEQPYMmB7UXqNxJrDgA7/u65yqDFonhR2zmsHu3J8L9uKphxm2oABIXsB4vjeJAgh8ElK341Wi9+jA8Z63dEws2oEjQMFfZsSLclZce4KgSE8qMEnhzyx9gzNY/miR2dUEmww= ; Message-ID: <20050326014940.52362.qmail@web52605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.237.122.17] by web52605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:49:40 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: David Clear To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Step-by-step instructions for MD_ROOT embedded, please? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:49:42 -0000 Here you go (found on the web): 1. Create a filesystem image: # dd if=/dev/zero of=mdimage -bs=1024 count=4096 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f mdimage -s 4096k -u 4 # disklabel -r -w md4 auto # newfs /dev/md4c # mount /dev/md4c /mnt . . put stuff on it . # umount /mnt # mdconfig -d -u 4 2. Make sure you have the kernel options: options MD_ROOT options MD_ROOT_SIZE=4096 ...and rebuild. 3. As you said, compiling /usr/src/release/write_mfs_in_kernel.c from FreeBSD-4.11 with SBOFF set to 64K will work. You'll also need to #include prior to fs.h. 4. Set vfs.root.mountfrom to "ufs:md0" in /boot/loader.conf. Works for me on 5.3-RELEASE. Good luck. Regards, David. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 01:58:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DB916A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:58:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880D243D64 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:58:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:55:31 -0600 Message-ID: <4244C1CD.3080606@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:58:37 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2005 01:55:32.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4CADF40:01C531A6] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:58:41 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >Is .profile read by every shell ? > > It's for the Bourne type shells (sh, and bash), but I'm not into those, so I'm not sure if bash cares about .profile or not, or if there's a way to tell it that it should read that. IIRC, there's a .bashrc for bash, just as there is, IIRC, a .shrc for sh, the original Bourne shell. (You do know that "bash" is an acronym for "Bourne Again SHell", right? A play on the English translation of Jesus' words to Nicodemus in John III:iii: "Except a man be born again ..." which was probably particularly funny in America in the late 1970s...) .cshrc is read by csh/tcsh, which, incidentally enough, are the same thing on FreeBSD unless for some reason diff(1) is idiotic in this regard: [604] Fri 25.Mar.2005 19:48:40 [kadmin@archangel][/home/shared] # diff /bin/csh /bin/tcsh --- and I suppose that's why there's no .tcshrc AFAIK on FBSD. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 02:03:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CE716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:03:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501A643D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:03:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so892993rnf for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ih5VcbygH4pc89AukHkZLkxP+2kIKndkB1NT7YamwarvwRzqim0gfqsQwRtQ0/khWjBHM6XzP/j/3gzvci2tW7II6khWrAbnPu1jSjjSZyJ4BIBhmm/jhk2d5PzS1mRiupMxT4dRHV7TVaJ5POGz/2Sdfc4WrNmRlcQZrzzGnio= Received: by 10.38.75.67 with SMTP id x67mr739806rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.11.61 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:03:04 -0500 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: healthd does not show the correct temperature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Constantine A. Murenin" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:03:06 -0000 Hello, The healthd does not seem to show the correct temperature on my system. Right after the start-up, BIOS usually shows around 31 centigrade for the motherboard and 21 for the processor. However, this is what the healthdc is usually showing right after the start-up of the FreeBSD after the start-up of the computer: host.name 62.0 15.0 69.0 3096 0000 0000 1.46 1.50 3.31 5.03 11.86 -11.62 -4.80 Then after a few minutes of ideling, BIOS would show the temperature of the processor at around 30 or 35. healthdc shows this: host.name 72.0 38.0 70.5 3096 0000 0000 1.46 1.50 3.31 5.03 11.86 -11.62 -4.80 UPDATE: Above lines refer to the standard heatsink and Intel Pentium 1.8A Northwood processor. Right now, as I have installed Zalman Fan Mate 1, the healthd does not show the speed of the processors fan, while BIOS still shows it at around 1500 rpm. He is what I get if I run `healthd -d`: %healthd -d ************************ * Hardware Information * ************************ WinBond Chip: W83627HF ************************ Temp.= 68.0, 51.5, 70.0; Rot.= 0, 0, 0 Vcore = 1.46, 1.50; Volt. = 3.33, 5.03, 11.86, -11.62, -4.85 Temp.= 67.0, 51.5, 70.0; Rot.= 0, 0, 0 Vcore = 1.46, 1.50; Volt. = 3.33, 5.03, 11.86, -11.62, -4.80 Temp.= 67.0, 51.5, 70.0; Rot.= 0, 0, 0 Vcore = 1.46, 1.52; Volt. = 3.33, 5.03, 11.86, -11.62, -4.80 Temp.= 67.0, 51.5, 70.0; Rot.= 0, 0, 0 Vcore = 1.46, 1.50; Volt. = 3.33, 5.03, 11.86, -11.62, -4.80 Thanks, Constantine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 02:05:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8743A16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:05:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1674943D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:05:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:52574 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DF0fr-000GLs-O9; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:05:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9ca8a37464ed7b8c21144b3fae0d110b@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:05:12 +0100 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:05:17 -0000 > > I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that > shows every command or file :) > > Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? Hey Gert, I use tcsh and have these variables in my .cshrc: setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 set prompt = '%B%n@%m:%b%~%# ' set autolist = ambigous It hasn't got a lot of colours but enough to distingiush the files from folders etc... And autocompletion and hints. Arno > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 02:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6B116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07E43D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:13:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DF0nd-0000fn-Sb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:13:17 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:13:17 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:13:17 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:13:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: > I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that > shows every command or file :) Uhm, colours where? And why follow Bash's silly example of requiring two tabs when you can use one? And why use tab completion which requires two tabs and which beeps at you for no reason instead of using ^D completion which only requires one instance of ^D and which doesn't beep at you? > Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? No, csh can do this too, despite what seem to be misconceptions about csh still being in the dark ages. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMXHk/lo7zvzJioRAl5OAJ423MK2MbD4qD1pDjsIEYVm+yhowgCgqRVM OteBGH37ETBUybOSsIZmR0M= =Xn6w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 02:20:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DF516A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:20:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3AA43D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DF0uD-00016q-GW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:20:05 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:20:05 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 03:20:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <4244C1CD.3080606@daleco.biz> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:20:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Kevin Kinsey scribbled these curious markings: > --- and I suppose that's why there's no .tcshrc AFAIK > on FBSD. There's no .tcshrc file, but if you read the manual for csh you'll see that there are semantics for processing both files, and that they are not equivalent. Users who have used Net|OpenBSD will know that having separate files is useful, because those systems ship with 4.4BSD csh and have TENEX csh (the one that's in FreeBSD) in the ports tree. 4.4BSD csh doesn't read the .tcshrc file, which is good if you want to put TENEX csh commands in a file without either using ugly if() statements or breaking csh. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMaHk/lo7zvzJioRAqM5AJ4gprZe9EtPZsszSalpkuDCNEF26QCePS8t d6/s4xWcfJssagbTKuu8MZc= =Fyd1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 04:07:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E9016A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:07:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ene.asda.gr (ene.asda.gr [193.92.118.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F87043D58 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:07:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lefty@ene.asda.gr) Received: by ene.asda.gr (Postfix, from userid 127) id 4BA6511418; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:07:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from 193.92.118.162 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lefty) by ene.asda.gr with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:07:16 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <2456.193.92.118.162.1111810036.squirrel@ene.asda.gr> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:07:16 +0200 (EET) From: "Lefteris Tsintjelis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on ene.asda.gr Subject: Possible to trigger system events based on ip conflicts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:07:21 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to trigger scripts/events based on IP address conflicts? Something that can be used as a backup solution, like a simple cluster failover, when one IP fails, the other takes over and when the first comes back on line the second one goes down (standby) and the fist one takes over again. What is the simplest solution to that? Lefteris Tsintjelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 04:17:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E4216A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:17:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50905.mail.yahoo.com (web50905.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61FB243D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:17:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonstew1983@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25508 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2005 04:17:13 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=g8W9wHUoyB0+EfHZBh+3PJfDjDY8kyLiGK3fNUUI/+Ip3UPMg8RrqqOd3NPZ3IMM4d30YOvBNl7AUxVKGBOXalSDwmphQZnWywe8MU6axxFKl0Yhp0u/Pi7QEI+7zs3fE/QEAu71y79mZIs/3rhBB1EzrdrzPiHcQy4TUSo2wa8= ; Message-ID: <20050326041713.25506.qmail@web50905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.152.100] by web50905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:17:13 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:17:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Stewart To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discrepancy between ps -i -o inblk and figuring numbers by hand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:17:15 -0000 --- Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-25 10:08, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > > --- Giorgos Keramidas keramida at ceid dot upatras dot gr wrote: > > > So, what you are looking for is a single byte count that > increases > > > sequentially for all read() and write() system calls? > > > > Pretty much, yes. To be specific all read() and write() calls for a > > given process. Even something that counted in 512 byte or > UFUFSlocks > > would be useful. > > To what end, may I ask? Per process statistics may include byte > counts from a > few thousand threads that read and/or write from a few hundred > descriptors. > > Even per file descriptor statistics quickly get useless when one > considers > that a single byte read may cause the read-ahead of a few thousand > bytes or > that a single write may reach the corresponding device several > seconds later. > As I mentioned in an earlier email my main use of this is really just for one program. I can do a du to find out how much information it needs to read and then by watching how much it has read get a rough idea of how much longer it will be. Not really a necessary feature just a "nice to have" kind of thing. Jonathan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 04:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC5A16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50B43D4C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john.destefano@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1271761rne for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:28:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lv3YXH6N8EiNkVNdgTnWdy6pNH2AVDHNmkp7BshXV4EyxOSI1VqPwmtb8+muQBSQfwdsdvrYjetQcnFRTcBUky3B81IZrGMpXyaRvpmi/ibQkfILm2teCG5MXVAVSf3Rc2w32N8gM7uefAfq7wWvTAET1e4fNK3DkXlAg7sLH1g= Received: by 10.38.75.80 with SMTP id x80mr3086583rna; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.97.55 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:28:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:28:08 -0500 From: John DeStefano To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050325233951.BBA0816A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325233951.BBA0816A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 92, Issue 30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John DeStefano List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:28:09 -0000 > From: Tomas Quintero > To: "em1897@aol.com" > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:41:08 -0500 > Subject: Re: A Riddle > I'm glad this has to deal with FreeBSD related question. Thank you for > expanding the minds of those subscribed to this mailing list with your > intricate question outlining in the most detail the problem you're > having with your specific task. I've noticed quite a bit of this crap on -questions lately, and the worst part about it is that a lot of legitimate FreeBSD questions are going unanwered/unnoticed in favor of inane discussions that have no place on this list (religion vs. product logos and the like), and that could be avoided if the valued and long-standing citizens of this list community would steer clear of the bait being swung in front of them by a few trolls. It's almost as if we've been watching the demise of a very helpful, useful community, and it's quite disappointing. To address the specific passage above: exactly how is your sarcastic response any more appropriate to the list than that of the OP? > You're either a dumbass, or a 12 year old. Touche. If there's anything worse than feeding the trolls, it's remarks like this. Regardless of what was said before, if this person is a "12 year old", how does using the word "dumbass" in a message make you any better than him or her? > Many Thanks, > > Tomas No, thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 04:54:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F3616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB2B43D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DF3J9-0005tk-GH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:53:59 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:53:59 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:53:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <2456.193.92.118.162.1111810036.squirrel@ene.asda.gr> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible to trigger system events based on ip conflicts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:54:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Lefteris Tsintjelis scribbled these curious markings: > Is it possible to trigger scripts/events based on IP address > conflicts? Something that can be used as a backup solution, > like a simple cluster failover, when one IP fails, the other > takes over and when the first comes back on line the second > one goes down (standby) and the fist one takes over again. > What is the simplest solution to that? You mean like CARP? Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCROtCk/lo7zvzJioRAuBbAJ4jSYR2FKGe/5H2oT7Y7B988CZcegCcDRlI DzjMt/eF7CXmrPn1c810A4E= =dtB/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 05:01:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD72316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:01:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F32C43D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:58:41 -0600 Message-ID: <4244ECBA.5070001@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:01:46 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning References: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> In-Reply-To: <20050325225125.GA48678@skytracker.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2005 04:58:42.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B497260:01C531C0] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to auto connect to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:01:50 -0000 David Banning wrote: >My win boxes are using freebsd as a gateway to the internet >through a hub. I have to set the ip address for each machine >and setup the gateway address in each winbox. > >They do not find the gateway address automatically. >I have been doing it this way for years. I am just wondering if it is >possible to have the win boxes auto detect the gateway address and >agree with freebsd what each win IP address will be automatically >as is done with a router-switch. > > > > It is most certainly possible. See the Handbook chapter on "Network Servers", the subtopic entitled "Automatic Network Configuration. (DHCP)" In my doc build it's Chapter 25.3 --- but I noticed yesterday that my handbook seems to be slightly out of sync, so I'd check the version on the web site first. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 05:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E821C16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51101.mail.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6785043D58 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25637 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2005 05:51:32 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=uzooAdH3SeQR/2N7ewWRU75d6I6NfSXyhxoiNdI3jd49DtIo91H9JtKvl+KAJAVLhpZpSK5LOtMW+SomNRdRMCglChbkuXqS6AzcW3L6w11U+qQ5ksloU1rsGUnFVInGBTop6BR9B0MWfLLC4zOcxmaHJlCbjxC18T8ZrkCnXFY= ; Message-ID: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.147.160.231] by web51101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:51:32 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:51:32 -0800 (PST) From: faisal gillani To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Problems starting X windows :S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:34 -0000 i wanted to test freebsd as a desktop but am stuck in the first step , making frebsd graphical . i get this error while startingx Fatal server error: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O what can be wrong ? *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ God is the Greatest __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 05:51:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBA216A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51101.mail.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DAEF43D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25637 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Mar 2005 05:51:32 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=uzooAdH3SeQR/2N7ewWRU75d6I6NfSXyhxoiNdI3jd49DtIo91H9JtKvl+KAJAVLhpZpSK5LOtMW+SomNRdRMCglChbkuXqS6AzcW3L6w11U+qQ5ksloU1rsGUnFVInGBTop6BR9B0MWfLLC4zOcxmaHJlCbjxC18T8ZrkCnXFY= ; Message-ID: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.147.160.231] by web51101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:51:32 PST Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:51:32 -0800 (PST) From: faisal gillani To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Problems starting X windows :S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:51:34 -0000 i wanted to test freebsd as a desktop but am stuck in the first step , making frebsd graphical . i get this error while startingx Fatal server error: xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O what can be wrong ? *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ God is the Greatest __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 06:27:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF2316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5149843D46 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:27:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:24:07 -0600 Message-ID: <424500C1.2080403@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:27:13 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anthony M. Agelastos" References: <562fd27dd8db8f70bad6f387a1932221@asu.edu> In-Reply-To: <562fd27dd8db8f70bad6f387a1932221@asu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2005 06:24:08.0323 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AB47D30:01C531CC] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg warning & initial installation modifications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:27:16 -0000 Anthony M. Agelastos wrote: > Hello all and thank you for your help. Hello also, and you're welcome, assuming, of course that I give any :-D > > I have FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with the Minimal pre-configure > install and I have installed X.org 6.8.2. Anyways, I notice when > I do a startx, that I get the following output: > > xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net:0" in > "remove" command > > X still works, however I want things to run as smoothly as > possible. In addition to this problem, I was wondering what the > best way of installing the base documentation (like > manpages for the system commands such as tar) would be? As for the "bad display name" error, I'd first suspect that something's not resolving correctly. Do you have your hostname set in /etc/hosts also? X needs to know where "iqast.hsd1.ga.comcast.net" is ... AFAIK, you could set that to 127.0.0.1, if that's what you really want to name your machine. However, since you got that name via DHCP, I'd think it might be something changeable...anyways, do some looking around to see if your machine can "find itself" (e.g. ping your hostname, etc.) As for the best way to install the man pages, you'd probably be OK to start sysinstall again, go to the Post-installation configuration menu, and then IIRC "select additional distribution sets" or somesuch. The docs should be there, and it'll get you the other stuff (like the handbook) that can be of great help in your development as a FreeBSD user.... Kevin Kinsey > > Thank you all for your help. For some further insight into the > system, I wanted to mention that when I installed it and it > asked me to configure my network via DHCP, I did and it came > up with hsd1.ga.comcast.net. as the domain (including the > trailing period) and I named the computer iqast. Anyways, > before I clicked OK, I deleted the trailing period just because > it did not look correct. I have no idea if this little tidbit of > information is beneficial or not. I am new to the FreeBSD > world (this is my first time playing with it) and I am horrendous > at configuring networks, so I apologize now if the problem above is > trivial. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 08:41:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789E616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:41:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 417F443D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:41:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2005 08:41:16 -0000 Received: from pD9E28AF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) [217.226.138.242] by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 09:41:16 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 From: cyb <"cyb."@gmx.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8kUf9JEzChUopHGpZ4B4" Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:41:15 +0100 Message-Id: <1111826475.514.26.camel@p4-3200.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: java / azureus core dumps if cputype is set in make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:41:19 -0000 --=-8kUf9JEzChUopHGpZ4B4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, I recently rebuilt my FreeBSD 5.3 system. I updated the source with cvsup to RELENG_5_3 (security branch). This time i added the CPUTYPE, CFLAGS and NOPROFILE variables to my /etc/make.conf so it would look like this: CPUTYPE=3D p4 CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe NOPROFILE=3D true PERL_VER=3D5.8.6 PERL_VERSION=3D5.8.6 Building and installing world and kernel went well, everything works fine. I installed Azureus (java bittorrent client). The problem is, if I scroll a scrollbar or just go to the Azureus option menu, I get a core dump of java and Azureus will give me the following messages in the error log: An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : 10 occurred at PC=3D0x34C0CB3A Function=3D_gtk_tree_view_queue_draw_node+0x1B5B Library=3D/usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.600 ... Heap at VM Abort: Heap def new generation total 576K, used 250K [0x2c470000, 0x2c510000, 0x2c95= 0000) eden space 512K, 47% used [0x2c470000, 0x2c4acd58, 0x2c4f0000) from space 64K, 11% used [0x2c500000, 0x2c501e08, 0x2c510000) to space 64K, 0% used [0x2c4f0000, 0x2c4f0000, 0x2c500000) tenured generation total 5156K, used 4372K [0x2c950000, 0x2ce59000, 0x30= 470000) the space 5156K, 84% used [0x2c950000, 0x2cd95148, 0x2cd95200, 0x2ce590= 00) compacting perm gen total 9216K, used 9013K [0x30470000, 0x30d70000, 0x34= 470000) the space 9216K, 97% used [0x30470000, 0x30d3d718, 0x30d3d800, 0x30d700= 00) Local Time =3D Sat Mar 26 00:34:53 2005 Elapsed Time =3D 12 # # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.2-p7-cyb_25_mar_2005_18_25 mixed= mode) # After a lot of testing I was able to narrow the problem down to gtk-2.6.4_1 which i had to built with this /etc/make.conf #CPUTYPE=3D p4 CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe NOPROFILE=3D true PERL_VER=3D5.8.6 PERL_VERSION=3D5.8.6 Now my question, is it usefull to set the CPUTYPE in make.conf to activate prozessor-specific optimizations at all? taken from the example make.conf: > # The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for > # generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in > # certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value > # of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to gcc. Has someone else had problems with Azureus/gtk2 if the CPUTYPE was set? Is there a known bug in Azureus/gtk2 preventing the use of CPUTYPE? Regards, Andreas --=20 GnuPG key : 0xD25FCC81 | http://cyb.websimplex.de/pubkey.asc Fingerprint: D182 6F22 7EEC DD4C 0F6E 564C 691B 0372 D25F CC81 --=-8kUf9JEzChUopHGpZ4B4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCRSAraRsDctJfzIERAomkAJsEg4mAS9BxkzAhGuDuNiDGZ03rEACZAVUe 4ofwJr0oDHsDMhuuqmM+qAw= =vH5o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8kUf9JEzChUopHGpZ4B4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 08:48:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37C716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85D743D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no ([194.54.107.19]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2Q8lxBM027028 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:48:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:46:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> (Anthony Atkielski's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:02:28 +0100") Message-ID: <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:48:27 -0000 Anthony Atkielski writes: > This discussion seems very strange, since I don't really understand how > anyone could effectively use FreeBSD (or any flavor of UNIX) without > understanding English in the first place. I've never heard of any > localized versions of UNIX (?). There's an amazing amount of material that has been localized into quite a number of languages. I believe Gnome and KDE are pretty much fully localized to most languages you can think of these days. I tend to run a Norwegian (Nynorsk or Bokmål, whatever I fancy that day) KDE desktop myself. An ordinary user would get along fine on a typical desktop system in their local language, IME. On the other hand your friendly sysadmin would likely be at a great disadvantage with little or no English. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 10:22:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838CD16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:22:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 699EB43D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:22:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2005 10:22:06 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 11:22:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dick@nagual.st Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:21:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050325191455.61eccebc.dick@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050325191455.61eccebc.dick@nagual.st> X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3186287.fp5ANBepnu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503261121.34381@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: kaudiocreator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:22:08 -0000 --nextPart3186287.fp5ANBepnu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 25. M=E4rz 2005 19:14 schrieb dick hoogendijk: > kaudiocreator is a nice program for extracting audio tracks and > converting them w/ almost any encoder. Only pittfall is hat kde is > needed. You can read audio tracks directly from ata CD-Drives with /dev/acd0t1 t2 t= 3=20 etc. You just have to set the block size of 2352. (for examples see=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html) The you can make ogg out of the resulting wave files for example... =2DHarry > > Is there another program that comes close to the abilities and easy of > use of this kaudicreator? > -(My WM is fvmw)- > I like fast running progs. --nextPart3186287.fp5ANBepnu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCRTeuBylq0S4AzzwRArYpAJwM6bo7Na15Zhfs3XiNrc6uV/3vqACfQ8eA nBTAxofJfYmIi0T9ljKkNno= =DyG2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3186287.fp5ANBepnu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 10:39:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEFD16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:39:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pedigree.cs.ubc.ca (pedigree.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F2543D62 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:39:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kcai@cs.ubc.ca) Received: from granville.cs.ubc.ca (granville.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.7.20]) by pedigree.cs.ubc.ca (8.12.10/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j2QAd3TN013017 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:39:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Kan Cai To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Dual Boot -- FreeBSD 5.4 and Fedora Core 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:39:05 -0000 Greetings all: I tried to install Fedora Core 3 to my FreeBSD box and make it dual boot, but with no luck. The FreeBSD 5.4-Pre is installed in the first drive, and work like a champ. I intended to install Fedora Core 3 on my second disk, but anaconda crashed at the last moment. The first few lines of the dumped trace look as follows. Also, should I enable GRUB when installing Fedora, or should I enable it on hdb1? I am afraid that it ends up failing to boot my FreeBSD partition. Any suggestion and help on this will be most appreciated. thanks and cheers, --ken --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 1074, in handleRenderCal lback self.currentWindow.renderCallback() File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/iw/progress_gui.py", line 242, in rend erCallback self.intf.icw.nextClicked() File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/gui.py", line 789, in nextClicked self.dispatch.gotoNext() File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 171, in gotoNext self.moveStep() File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/dispatch.py", line 239, in moveStep rc = apply(func, self.bindArgs(args)) File "/usr/src/build/475969-i386/install//usr/lib/anaconda/packages.py", line 1155, in doPostInst all stdout = devnull) File "/usr/lib/anaconda/iutil.py", line 53, in execWithRedirect raise RuntimeError, command + " can not be run" RuntimeError: /usr/sbin/kudzu can not be run ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 10:49:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E69D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D69043D41 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m@MHoerich.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Mar 2005 10:49:11 -0000 Received: from pD951491A.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO localhost) [217.81.73.26] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 11:49:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5114400 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:48:53 +0100 From: Mario Hoerich To: faisal gillani Message-ID: <20050326104852.GA69766@Pandora.MHoerich.de> References: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problems starting X windows :S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:49:14 -0000 # faisal gillani: > > Fatal server error: > xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O > > what can be wrong ? /dev/io has been made a module a while back. Either load mem/io with kldload or rebuild your kernel with an additional device io device mem in your kernel config. HTH, Mario From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 11:04:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DE716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:04:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F45243D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scode@scode-whitestar.mine.nu) Received: from scode-whitestar.mine.nu ([83.226.138.147] [83.226.138.147]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP <20050326110425.MCCL22685.mxfep02.bredband.com@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:04:25 +0100 Received: by scode-whitestar.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 44F3E17B8F2; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:09:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:09:23 +0100 From: Peter Schuller To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050326110921.GH32900@scode-whitestar.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: gbde - destroying master key without lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:04:27 -0000 Hello, I would like to use gbde to encrypt some disks. Using an external lockfile things work pretty much as documented (except for some options that aren't supported by the tool, but which are listed in the manpage). However, for this particular situation, I do not want to use an external lockfile. The manpage seems to imply that without -L/-l, the first sector is used as a lockfile. Indeed, I can init, attach and detach devices without an external lockfile. However, when I attempt to destroy the master key: # gbde destroy /dev/label/storage304 Enter passphrase: Opened with key 0 gbde: No -L option and no space in sector 0 for lockfile Trying to use -L for this particular operation fails: gbde: illegal option -- L Usage error: Invalid option And trying to specify "-n -1" as the manpage says also fails: gbde: illegal option -- n Usage error: Invalid option So the question is - how do I destroy the master key (other than dd if=/dev/zero of=...) when not using an external lockfile? (The reason I do not want to use an external lockfile is simply that I do not see a need for it in my situation and I would feel much more comfortable if the gbde volume was self-contained; no need to backup anything else or keep it in synch.) -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 11:42:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2A216A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jeremino.homeunix.net (jeremino.xs4all.nl [80.126.224.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0E643D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:42:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spam@jeremino.homeunix.net) Received: from jeremina.homeunix.net ([10.0.0.5]) by jeremino.homeunix.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1DF9g5-00089n-5L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:42:05 +0100 Message-Id: <2048306.04W6tXOxnu@not_a_message_id> From: Kees Plonsz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:41:59 +0100 References: Lines: 39 Organization: Chaotic User-Agent: KNode/0.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Subject: Re: gbde - destroying master key without lockfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:42:07 -0000 Peter Schuller wrote on Saturday 26 March 2005 12:09 in the group list.freebsd.questions: > Hello, > > I would like to use gbde to encrypt some disks. Using an external lockfile > things work pretty much as documented (except for some options that aren't > supported by the tool, but which are listed in the manpage). However, for > this particular situation, I do not want to use an external lockfile. > > The manpage seems to imply that without -L/-l, the first sector is used as > a lockfile. Indeed, I can init, attach and detach devices without an > external lockfile. However, when I attempt to destroy the master key: > > # gbde destroy /dev/label/storage304 > Enter passphrase: > Opened with key 0 > gbde: No -L option and no space in sector 0 for lockfile > > Trying to use -L for this particular operation fails: > > gbde: illegal option -- L > Usage error: Invalid option > > And trying to specify "-n -1" as the manpage says also fails: > > gbde: illegal option -- n > Usage error: Invalid option > > So the question is - how do I destroy the master key (other than dd > if=/dev/zero of=...) when not using an external lockfile? > > (The reason I do not want to use an external lockfile is simply that I do > not see a need for it in my situation and I would feel much more > comfortable if the gbde volume was self-contained; no need to backup > anything else or keep it in synch.) > Instead of "destroy" I use "nuke". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 11:43:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBBF16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:43:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC17E43D41 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DF9h7-0005Ax-B1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0100 Received: from rms.gnu-rox.org ([62.212.121.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0100 Received: from zedek by rms.gnu-rox.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Xavier Maillard Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:35 +0100 Organization: GNU Rox ! Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rms.gnu-rox.org X-Face: "qG{UC8GPzro#PZ!Jgisuj0]=k10 f#d596CJMPGOGwB'j\^JR2g0']N%L:ylC`?.l8u#JuS#CygUA}avHHVJJ!#ub7CxX#u]g}?z,hQ;c q%v]"[$!BfS Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: zeDek X-Accept-Language: fr-fr, en-en, en-fr User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/Qqsfv+FjYkQkIXVNZYyMhzlw/A= Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:43:37 -0000 On 25 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > If we're to prove a point to those that name call, are rude, > troll, and all the other recent events, we must do so on our > level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they spew, and we > must simply either ignore it (the correct way imho) Kill em > with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that the user has no > idea what we're saying. > > Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it goes too far. > > Over and out... I totally agree. This plus other things are the reasons why I chose to switch to another OS. Over and out too. -- Xavier Maillard main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 12:14:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383816A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C1343D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:14:10 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Saturday, 26 March 2005, 08:13:57 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:13:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42451A74.6060605@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:16:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2005 12:13:52.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[462F2970:01C531FD] References: <423A8F4C.6050502@cigb.edu.cu> <423ACA54.1080009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <423ACA54.1080009@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050125) Subject: gnochm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:33 -0000 Hi people I recently installed gnochm via ports(building) and the compilation and installation was sucefully but alway a but :-) i get this error when i try to run it. %gnochm You do not have all of the required Python modules to run gnochm. Check the gnochm README file for tips on how to fix this. What follows is the error description highlighting the problematic module. No module named gtkhtml2 I install the port via portupgrade(-R) and the dependency must be solved in the README file of the source i don't find nothing...How can i solve this problem ? i think that the proble is with python modules what should i do? Thanks OSMANY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 12:32:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8701E16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:32:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sparrow.castlehollow.com (sparrow.castlehollow.com [69.214.59.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4D1643D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:32:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rodger@profocusdesigns.com) Received: (qmail 35662 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 12:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO condor) (69.214.59.121) by sparrow.castlehollow.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 12:32:02 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:30:41 -0500 From: Rodger Castle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050326073041.65da4bd2.rodger@profocusdesigns.com> Organization: ProFocus Designs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ath driver usage for Netgear WG511T X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:32:05 -0000 I am trying to get a Netgear WG511T working with FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. I noticed that this card was listed in my HARDWARE.TXT list, so I assumed it would be supported. Upon trying this card, having it fail, and doing some digging in pccard.conf, I see that it is not. I attempted to use ndis/if_ndis with the driver supplied with the card and it throws several errors as well. I do not have access to the error logs at the moment as I am currently compiling an upgrade to 5.4-PRERELEASE to attempt to correct the problem. Assuming this upgrade doesn't work, how should I address this problem and assist with its resolution? Specifically, I am interested in using this card in a Toshiba Tecra 550CDT with the FlyingJ Travel Center's Wi-Fi system (http://www.tonservices.com/hisp_home.htm) as I travel a lot and would like to have a good, stable connection to use to login to my home servers. Rodger Castle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 12:52:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152A716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92E43D1D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 72E051C000B5 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:52:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 30A4C1C000B9 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:52:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326125216199.30A4C1C000B9@mwinf1112.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:52:16 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:18 -0000 Peter N. M. Hansteen writes: > There's an amazing amount of material that has been localized into quite > a number of languages. I believe Gnome and KDE are pretty much fully > localized to most languages you can think of these days. I was thinking of UNIX itself, not X servers or related products. I doubt that even Apple has bothered to localize any of the UNIX software for OS X. Unless one treats UNIX as a black-box desktop server (with a localized GUI), it's going to be hard to work with the system without knowing English. And if it's ever necessary to go outside the desktop GUI environment, there again, English is required. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 12:59:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8567616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205A643D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so1381487rne for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TFWgYZrJgEJ/gVRiRY28Ncq7BhNv16icFoFTTPqrMGqV9tbDvxe+XKNpMBfe/hwn1wpngdfHfC2hQhUZld9N74rAmh4t0oJERKAzFfSPriQ8g2cfhvzN0BBrUBh5KK6EtOKT4DUS4T/c7+TBhNPS8GzzWsej+CwMlJ8nRnCmFgw= Received: by 10.38.81.3 with SMTP id e3mr2267761rnb; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:59:18 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050325234152.GA12816@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050326002311.GA18807@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <4244C1CD.3080606@daleco.biz> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:19 -0000 I dont have colors :( How do you turn off the tab beep ? # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias la ls -a alias lf ls -FA alias ll ls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up # set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# " set prompt = "%B%n@%m:%b%~%# " set autolist = ambigous set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 13:37:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6A016A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63D443D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35] (may be forged)) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2QDbFoR042442; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:37:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2QDbAjY008729; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:37:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2QDbA49008728; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:37:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:37:10 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Rodger Castle Message-ID: <20050326133705.GA8705@polands.org> References: <20050326073041.65da4bd2.rodger@profocusdesigns.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050326073041.65da4bd2.rodger@profocusdesigns.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath driver usage for Netgear WG511T X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:37:43 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 07:30:41AM -0500, Rodger Castle wrote: > I am trying to get a Netgear WG511T working with FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. > I use the same card in a Dell C600 laptop on 5.3-STABLE with no problems. > I noticed that this card was listed in my HARDWARE.TXT list, so I > assumed it would be supported. Upon trying this card, having it fail, > and doing some digging in pccard.conf, I see that it is not. I > attempted to use ndis/if_ndis with the driver supplied with the card > and it throws several errors as well. I do not have access to the > error logs at the moment as I am currently compiling an upgrade to > 5.4-PRERELEASE to attempt to correct the problem. > load if_ath.ko at boot -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:19:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B28D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9654C43D1D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so922308wri for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:19:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CFXj3gQqbesO/sbcRRNzYHbVOvQx9nYH44CqpIZr+rybvZW1HUUs4qs3iluPbQqKRmLEECRfFVCNJGu7CdvWtBmpfPi+yoG0b3lpC3gSGkE4B3ar3ibJXn4oc7MuYsNTxsbd8GtS/K0xPwaZUTJCuLKB/0XOMMGTCXIrXl6FNIQ= Received: by 10.54.6.2 with SMTP id 2mr948842wrf; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.8.3 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:19:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:19:50 +0200 From: Perttu Laine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Perttu Laine List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:52 -0000 I have 3,4ghz ht processor and freebsd shows up only one processors. I suppose it should show two in ht models? so, GENERIC kernel doesn't support it? but should I add to kernel config to enable it? by reading config examples I think this should be enough: options SMP but is it all I need? -- kpn @ IRCnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:27:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C2616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:27:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5876643D5C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:27:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan.haglund@crystalnorth.com) Received: by av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 28827380AA; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av12-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1AA37F8A; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:27:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (h194n4fls310o253.telia.com [81.229.63.194]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A881D37E42; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:27:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <42457134.8050006@crystalnorth.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:27:00 +0100 From: Stefan Haglund User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Haglund References: <424435B4.70105@crystalnorth.com> In-Reply-To: <424435B4.70105@crystalnorth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File corruption on uploaded files occuring (even under light load) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:27:03 -0000 Sorry, should have added that it's in FreeBSD 5.3. Does anyone know if there is any way to stress-test the PCI bus (preferably without external cards)? Regards, Stefan Haglund > I have an IWILL KK266-R (VIA KT133A/686B) board with an 1.4GHz > processor running as a FreeBSD file & web server. The NIC is an Intel > EtherExpress PRO/100 (I think it's called, fxp anyway). This board has > an AMI RAID controller (CMD 649) onboard, which I use for all four > drives (although not in RAID). > > My problem: > Files uploaded to this server are sometimes corrupted. It doesn't have > to be under high load, like directly uploading from a computer. It can > also occur when I'm downloading from the internet on a computer, and > save the file to the server. Another thing that is wierd, is that when > the computer is fresh from a boot, there is always a few netstat Oerrs > (5-30 I've seen this far) errors occuring when downloading or > uploading, and never again. > > I have run mprime stresstest for a good while, with no complaints. I > have also tried another NIC, and also moving the NIC to other PCI > slots. I've tried with kernels without APIC, tried disabling ACPI, and > I've also disabled throttling. My friend is running a similar setup on > his server, although a KT266A chipset, and no RAID controller > (southbridge IDE), and it is solid as a rock. > > Anyone have any ideas what might be causing these corruptions? > Chipset? NIC? RAID controller? > > Regards, > Stefan Haglund > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:33:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD8216A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:33:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD5343D46 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 494AF1A6CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:32:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (colin-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id F2D5F1A6CD for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:32:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2DA6239 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:11:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j2QCBpVp094143 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:11:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:11:51 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <20050326130042.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:33:19 -0000 On Mar 22 at 17:05, Anthony Atkielski said: > Bart Silverstrim writes: ------------------------------ >> And when people are saying that it's more likely X but you insist it's Y >> and you don't want to take the time to do Y because there are others >> who should be more competent with it, what are you going to do to >> compensate them if they drop everything to do Y and find out it wasn't, >> in fact, their fault? Anything? > > Who's going to pay me for the time I lose indulging them? How much time have you lost _just_ within the context of this thread alone? Everyone has attempted - with great diligence and considerable patience - to *help* you. You said earlier (I seem to recall) that this isn't a production machine, thus presumably it's a personal project. With hardware of this vintage it's to be hoped so anyway. My point is you've alreay lost time....on a personal project, with no certainty of an outcome under *any* OS. Are you so wired in that all the hours in your day are billable to some_project_or_other? If so, use the 80/20 rule and tank this one. It's either that or if you *are* billing for your time, you don't understand consultant methodology...to say the least of it, because you would be agressively chasing a solution *OR* seeing the law of diminshing returns, abandon the project and go do something more profitable and with an outcome of some kind....instead of cursing out and maligning list members, the OS etc. etc. I shouldn't have risen to this, but it's already gone from the realms of the sublime to the utterly absurd. You've argued _yourself_ into a loop from which there seems to be no egress. You're the one frothing endlessly about something that you could have gone a long way to troubleshooting or even solving! You apparently elected not to for reasons best known to yourself. Thus - I think - it's time to put this down and give everyone a much deserved rest from the eternally utterly futile series of exchanges. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven Sat Mar 26 13:08:00 CET 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:43:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3804216A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:43:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31FA343D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:43:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 73304 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 14:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 14:43:05 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:43:52 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050326114352.7363aa4c@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sh interactive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:43:07 -0000 Hello, How can I use 'sh' as an interactive shell? My configuration files are the defaults. The file '.profile' has the following: [...] # set ENV to a file invoked each time sh is started for interactive use. ENV=$HOME/.shrc; export ENV [...] The file '.shrc' has the following: [...] # Enable the builtin emacs(1) command line editor in sh(1), # e.g. C-a -> beginning-of-line. set -o emacs [...] However it does not read '.shrc' even if I call it with '-i'. Will this work if I use 'sh' as my default shell (I use 'tcsh')? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:57:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0AB16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F244E43D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 42299 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 14:57:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 14:57:49 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:58:38 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050326115838.58c0773e@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pcm device numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:51 -0000 Hello, I have two sound cards: SiS 7012 (C-Media Electronics CMI9739 AC97 Codec) - 'snd_ich' Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1 (CMedia CMI8738) - 'snd_cmi' The first is integrated in the motherboard, and it is detected first and used as the default output device (pcm0). The second it detected after the first, so it is used as the second output device (pcm1). I want to use my second sound card as the default output device. I tried using the loader.conf variables "*_after" and "*_before", but they always load them before booting the kernel, so the integrated card is detected first and assigned to the default output device (pcm0). So I have the drivers as modules, and load the driver for the second card when booting the kernel, and then from the command line I load the driver for the integrated card. Is there a (clean, if possible) way to do this (with 'device.hints', or rc scripts)? Here is the relevant output of 'pciconf -vl' (after loading the drivers in the desired order): pcm1@pci0:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x70121849 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device = 'SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator' class = multimedia subclass = audio pcm0@pci0:9:0: class=0x040100 card=0x011113f6 chip=0x011113f6 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'C-Media Electronics Inc.' device = 'CMI8738/PCI C3DX PCI Audio Chip中国' class = multimedia subclass = audio Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 14:58:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sparrow.castlehollow.com (sparrow.castlehollow.com [69.214.59.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F27D43D5D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:57:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rodger@profocusdesigns.com) Received: (qmail 37994 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 14:57:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO condor) (69.214.59.121) by sparrow.castlehollow.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 14:57:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:56:31 -0500 From: Rodger Castle To: Doug Poland Message-Id: <20050326095631.650bc909.rodger@profocusdesigns.com> In-Reply-To: <20050326133705.GA8705@polands.org> References: <20050326073041.65da4bd2.rodger@profocusdesigns.com> <20050326133705.GA8705@polands.org> Organization: ProFocus Designs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ath driver usage for Netgear WG511T X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:58:00 -0000 Thanks for the tip, Doug. I'm a bit sketchy on using and changing drivers as laptops seem to be the only time where non-standard drivers are required for me (by non-standard, I mean those not enabled by a default install). I just finished the recompile of 5.4-PRERELEASE and loaded the if_ath driver and no errors seem to be thrown from dmesg or syslog. I'll run out to the local truck stop tonight, see if it works, and report back. It seems FlyingJ has some specific requirements for their Wi-Fi system but it could be that this is my first time experimenting with wi-fi. At any rate, I'll put a full report of my findings tonight up here. Thanks again for the help. Rodger On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:37:10 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 07:30:41AM -0500, Rodger Castle wrote: > > I am trying to get a Netgear WG511T working with FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. > > > I use the same card in a Dell C600 laptop on 5.3-STABLE with no > problems. > > > I noticed that this card was listed in my HARDWARE.TXT list, so I > > assumed it would be supported. Upon trying this card, having it fail, > > and doing some digging in pccard.conf, I see that it is not. I > > attempted to use ndis/if_ndis with the driver supplied with the card > > and it throws several errors as well. I do not have access to the > > error logs at the moment as I am currently compiling an upgrade to > > 5.4-PRERELEASE to attempt to correct the problem. > > > load if_ath.ko at boot > > > -- > Regards, > Doug > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:11:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7816A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065E243D4C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627124B990; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:11:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:11:25 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:11:01 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 01:52:16PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I doubt that even Apple has bothered to localize any of the UNIX > software for OS X. Unless one treats UNIX as a black-box desktop server > (with a localized GUI), it's going to be hard to work with the system > without knowing English. And if it's ever necessary to go outside the > desktop GUI environment, there again, English is required. I've seen a fully localized german version of Unix called SINIX (Siemens' Unix?). Well, not *fully* localized, since the commands were still the usual bunch of 'ls' 'cp', 'mv' etc... (is that really English? ;-)), but everthing else, including error messages and man pages were in german. That was really weird looking, yet cute. I don't know if SINIX is still alive or defunct by now. Oh yeah, I also remember a french version of PASCAL (with french keywords!) from the early eighties. That was even weirder than a localized Unix! > Anthony -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:12:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC8B16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:12:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4062443D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2QFCR806008; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:12:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200503261512.j2QFCR806008@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: gert.cuykens@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:12:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Gert Cuykens" at Mar 26, 2005 01:36:05 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:12:30 -0000 > > Is .profile read by every shell ? No. .profile is read up by the sh shell and its derivatives. When the csh shell and its derivatives such as tcsh starts, its reads up .cshrc. The effect is somewhat the same, but it uses the syntax is for csh. The syntax for .profile is for sh. The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for interacticve use than the sh shell. Those who like the sh type syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also more interactive friendly than plain sh. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C7B16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77C8143D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 35926 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 15:15:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 15:15:22 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:16:12 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050326121612.7f1a3159@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Booting from the second disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:15:24 -0000 Hello, I have two IDE disks with the following Operating Systems: IDE-0 --> ad0s1 --> Windows XP Pro ad0s5 (extended) --> Windows 2000 Pro IDE-1 --> ad2s1 --> Debian Sarge (managing LILO at IDE-1) ad2s4 --> FreeBSD 5.3 I boot from the second disk. I have LILO in the MBR because it is capable of "swapping" disks when loading the operating system (Windows does not boot because it thinks the disk which the computer boots is the first disk, and boot.ini refers to the other disk). So I have to put the following: other=/dev/hda1 label=Windows map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 Or: other=/dev/hda1 label=Windows boot-as=0x81 Can I do something similar with other Boot Managers (FreeBSD's Boot Manager, GRUB, etc.) Which is the better recommended multi-boot layout (with two hard disks)? Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:20:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419C016A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:20:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEE143D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:20:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F4B4B990; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:20:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:20:57 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20050326152057.GB90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <200503261512.j2QFCR806008@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503261512.j2QFCR806008@clunix.cl.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: gert.cuykens@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:20:31 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:12:26AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for > interacticve use than the sh shell. Those who like the sh type > syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also > more interactive friendly than plain sh. BTW, why doesn't sh include readline(3) or some other kind of command line editing capability? The only reason for using bash over sh is for many people the lack of a decent command line editor function in sh. Footprint perhaps? > ////jerry Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:24:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C9316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.2.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CD743D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:24:43 +0100 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:24:42 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050326152442.GA11610@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: gcc error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:24:44 -0000 Hi, I'm getting desperate. First I couldn't compile just a gnome package. OK, it could be missed.. But now I want to compile the new KDE-3.4 and it does not work :-( Compiling kdelibs3 I get (again) this annoying error. Googling learned it shows up quit often, but I found no solution. So, what is this and waht can be done about it? I guess it's a gcc compiler error. I deleted all gcc packages that were installed (back to the systems's version - FreeBSD-4.11R). It did not help. The error I get: "c++: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations" The same error happens sometimes with 'cc' After this error compiling stops. No kdelibs3 for me and so, no kde-3.4 Does anybody has any idea about what happens here? I did not change any options in /etc/make.conf. =-=-=make.conf=-=-= CPUTYPE=i686 CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true NO_BIND= true NO_SENDMAIL= true ISPELL_NL= yes ASPELL_NL= yes WITH_BSD_JDK= true X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xfree86-4 # added by use.perl 2005-02-11 19:04:57 PERL_VER=5.8.6 PERL_VERSION=5.8.6 NOPERL=yes =-=-=end=-=-= -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:26:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E410E16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8A43D62 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a198.otenet.gr [212.205.215.198]) j2QFPp3R004353; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:25:52 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2QFQUIh075450; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:26:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j2QFQUeO075449; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:26:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:26:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: cpghost@cordula.ws Message-ID: <20050326152630.GA75398@gothmog.gr> References: <200503261512.j2QFCR806008@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <20050326152057.GB90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050326152057.GB90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> cc: Jerry McAllister cc: gert.cuykens@gmail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .cshrc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:50 -0000 On 2005-03-26 16:20, cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: >On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:12:26AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for >> interacticve use than the sh shell. Those who like the sh type >> syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also >> more interactive friendly than plain sh. > > BTW, why doesn't sh include readline(3) or some other kind of command > line editing capability? The only reason for using bash over sh is for > many people the lack of a decent command line editor function in > sh. Footprint perhaps? It does. You can enable either emacs-style line editing with: $ set -o emacs or vi-style command line editing with: $ set -o vi Note though that tab completion is not supported for commands or filenames, AFAIK, so you may still want to stick with bash. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:28:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4410116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com [209.68.5.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD84043D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 19097 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 15:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 15:28:19 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:29:09 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:28:21 -0000 Hello, I am using FreeBSD 5.3 with Samba 3.0.7,1. I can read all files from a Windows 2000 Pro. But when I try to access a mount point that is an NTFS filesystem, I have no read permission (files and directories appear as zero length files) until I access them from the server machine (like doing an 'ls'). My configuration file is as follows: ===== BEGIN ===== # Samba config file created using SWAT # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) # Date: 2004/12/11 19:24:02 # Global parameters [global] workgroup = VARNET server string = FreeBSD 5.3 security = SHARE log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 dns proxy = No [mnt] comment = Mounted Filesystems path = /mnt guest ok = Yes [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba printable = Yes browseable = No [ale] comment = Ale's Home DIrectory path = /home/ale guest ok = Yes ===== END ======= Note: I have subdirectories under '/mnt' like 'w2k', 'wxp', 'cam', and 'tmp'. What am I doing wrong? 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In my personal travel experience I've never come across a wireless provider that required either. For me, simply enabling the wireless NIC at boot time and "dhclient ath0" is all I've ever had to do. YMMV. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 15:59:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EB316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:59:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC61F43D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:59:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan.haglund@crystalnorth.com) Received: by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7B91637FD5; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av6-2-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A5B37EB3; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (h194n4fls310o253.telia.com [81.229.63.194]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBA737E44; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <424586CF.4030703@crystalnorth.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:11 +0100 From: Stefan Haglund User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Pulver References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:59:14 -0000 First of all, make sure those mounts are accessible for normal users, if you haven't. It's under the options for the mount in /etc/fstab, I think. You can always do a 'man fstab' if unsure. Does the username/password (check out 'smbpasswd') you are using to connect to samba exist in the samba user database? If not, samba won't know who you are, and will use the default guest user to access files (usually very restricted). That might be why you can access the mounts when you log in to the server, but not through server. If you go with the first, ALL users will have access. If you want to restrict it to, say, a certain group, you have to go with the second solution I think (and add users in the samba user database). Hope I got the issue correctly, else I dunno :-). Regards, Stefan Haglund >Hello, > >I am using FreeBSD 5.3 with Samba 3.0.7,1. > >I can read all files from a Windows 2000 Pro. But when >I try to access a mount point that is an NTFS filesystem, I have no read >permission (files and directories appear as zero length files) until I >access them from the server machine (like doing an 'ls'). > >My configuration file is as follows: > >===== BEGIN ===== ># Samba config file created using SWAT ># from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) ># Date: 2004/12/11 19:24:02 > ># Global parameters >[global] > workgroup = VARNET > server string = FreeBSD 5.3 > security = SHARE > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m > max log size = 50 > dns proxy = No > >[mnt] > comment = Mounted Filesystems > path = /mnt > guest ok = Yes > >[printers] > comment = All Printers > path = /var/spool/samba > printable = Yes > browseable = No > >[ale] > comment = Ale's Home DIrectory > path = /home/ale > guest ok = Yes >===== END ======= > >Note: I have subdirectories under '/mnt' like 'w2k', 'wxp', 'cam', and >'tmp'. > >What am I doing wrong? > >Thanks and Best Regards, >Ale >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 16:03:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAFC16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47EF43D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.55.6fd6ca7e (16111) for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d17 (mblk-d17.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.201]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID123-3eef424587df3c6; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:03:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:03:38 -0500 Message-Id: <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.201) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:03:38 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.201 Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:03:47 -0000 Hmm, I wonder if the lack of performance, or the unwanted emails were more heaviliy weighted in the decision? If there was any intelligent life on the list you could counter what you call "Trolls" with solid techical arguments. This reminds me of the old bsdi list. A bunch of half-wits who are just happy to belong to something and have other half-wits to correspond with. FreeBSD used to have open discussions between users and developers and it used to be real good. Now it sucks and the developers are detached, off in their own little world. See a pattern? But with a user base from places like gnu-rox.org and makeworld.com, what do you expect I guess? -----Original Message----- From: Xavier Maillard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:35 +0100 Subject: Re: A Riddle On 25 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > If we're to prove a point to those that name call, are rude, > troll, and all the other recent events, we must do so on our > level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they spew, and we > must simply either ignore it (the correct way imho) Kill em > with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that the user has no > idea what we're saying. > > Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it goes too far. > > Over and out... I totally agree. This plus other things are the reasons why I chose to switch to another OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 16:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9611F16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:21:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B10743D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:21:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5260660E2; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:21:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82656-05; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:21:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC3060DB; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:21:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:22:36 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: em1897@aol.com References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:21:55 -0000 em1897@aol.com wrote: > Hmm, I wonder if the lack of performance, or the unwanted > emails were more heaviliy weighted in the decision? > > If there was any intelligent life on the list you could > counter what you call "Trolls" with solid techical > arguments. This reminds me of the old bsdi > list. A bunch of half-wits who are just happy > to belong to something and have other half-wits > to correspond with. > > FreeBSD used to have open discussions between > users and developers and it used to be real > good. Now it sucks and the developers are > detached, off in their own little world. See > a pattern? > > But with a user base from places like gnu-rox.org > and makeworld.com, what do you expect I > guess? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Xavier Maillard > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:35 +0100 > Subject: Re: A Riddle > > On 25 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > >> If we're to prove a point to those that name call, are rude, >> troll, and all the other recent events, we must do so on our >> level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they spew, and we >> must simply either ignore it (the correct way imho) Kill em >> with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that the user has no >> idea what we're saying. >> >> Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it goes too far. >> >> Over and out... > > > I totally agree. This plus other things are the reasons why I > chose to switch to another OS. Users that Insult people that offer help (good or bad) says much about that user. The tactic at hand (at least with the user that top posts) is to do nothing more then what it is hoping to do - incite anger *Sigh* Oh well - most of us are certainly above that. -- Best regards, Chris Nothing is ever done for the right reasons. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 06:49:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ACC16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:49:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from piccollo.p6m7g8.net (c66-236-219-70.ip.panth.com [66.236.219.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9828443D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:49:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [10.0.0.174] (everything.liquidation.com [65.196.108.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by piccollo.p6m7g8.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2Q6nSON016076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:49:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Message-ID: <4245060D.5050801@p6m7g8.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:49:49 -0500 From: "Philip M. Golllucci" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: faisal gillani References: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050326055132.25635.qmail@web51101.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:42:36 +0000 Subject: Re: Problems starting X windows :S X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:49:42 -0000 Hi, most likely you are running at a security level thats too high check your setting in /etc/rc.conf Start it at -1 or disable it as a start. If thats not it you might not have the device in your kernel... add device io and recompile. END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci Consultant E-Mail: pgollucci@p6m7g8.com URL : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Phone : 301.254.5198 $Id: .signature,v 1.7 2004/09/05 23:46:37 philip Exp $ faisal gillani wrote: > i wanted to test freebsd as a desktop but am stuck in > the first step , making frebsd graphical . i get this > error while startingx > > Fatal server error: > xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O > > what can be wrong ? > > *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ > God is the Greatest > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 16:53:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA1C16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:53:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14B5C43D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 89393 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 16:53:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 16:53:50 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:54:37 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Stefan Haglund Message-ID: <20050326135437.44b5d481@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <424586CF.4030703@crystalnorth.com> References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> <424586CF.4030703@crystalnorth.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:53:51 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:11 +0100 Stefan Haglund wrote: > > First of all, make sure those mounts are accessible for normal users, > if you haven't. It's under the options for the mount in /etc/fstab, I > think. You can always do a 'man fstab' if unsure. > > Does the username/password (check out 'smbpasswd') you are using to > connect to samba exist in the samba user database? If not, samba won't > > know who you are, and will use the default guest user to access files > (usually very restricted). That might be why you can access the mounts > when you log in to the server, but not through server. > > If you go with the first, ALL users will have access. If you want to > restrict it to, say, a certain group, you have to go with the second > solution I think (and add users in the samba user database). > > Hope I got the issue correctly, else I dunno :-). > > Regards, > Stefan Haglund > Hello, Thank you for your reply. I am using the security level "SHARE" with "guest" enabled (I have only two machines on my network). The mounts are accessible by normal users (like "ale"), the permissions in '/mnt/w2k/' are 'rwxr-xr-x', the owner is "root" and group "wheel". I would like to add that I also have another share that is a FAT32 partition (WinXP) and I can browse it from the other machine (like everything else). I tried to map the guest account to the user "ale" that I use (and I can access '/mnt/w2k'), but nothing happened. This only happens in a NTFS mount point. The files and directories show as truncated, and I can not "see" (determine size, copy, determine if it is a file or directory, etc.) them until I do an operation over them with any normal user in the server, then I can see the files/dirs affected by the operation I did (ls, etc.). Before I only see the entries (names) without attributes (permissions, directory flag, etc.). Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 16:58:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2E716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:58:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 554FD43D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:58:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 62100 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 16:58:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 16:58:16 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:59:06 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Alejandro Pulver Message-ID: <20050326135906.199ef70e@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050326135437.44b5d481@ale.varnet.bsd> References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> <424586CF.4030703@crystalnorth.com> <20050326135437.44b5d481@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Stefan Haglund cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:58:19 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:54:37 -0300 Alejandro Pulver wrote: > On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:11 +0100 > Stefan Haglund wrote: > > > > First of all, make sure those mounts are accessible for normal > > users, if you haven't. It's under the options for the mount in > > /etc/fstab, I think. You can always do a 'man fstab' if unsure. > > > > Does the username/password (check out 'smbpasswd') you are using to > > connect to samba exist in the samba user database? If not, samba > > won't > > > > know who you are, and will use the default guest user to access > > files (usually very restricted). That might be why you can access > > the mounts when you log in to the server, but not through server. > > > > If you go with the first, ALL users will have access. If you want to > > > > restrict it to, say, a certain group, you have to go with the > > second solution I think (and add users in the samba user database). > > > > Hope I got the issue correctly, else I dunno :-). > > > > Regards, > > Stefan Haglund > > > > Hello, > > Thank you for your reply. > > I am using the security level "SHARE" with "guest" enabled (I have > only two machines on my network). > > The mounts are accessible by normal users (like "ale"), the > permissions in '/mnt/w2k/' are 'rwxr-xr-x', the owner is "root" and > group "wheel". > > I would like to add that I also have another share that is a FAT32 > partition (WinXP) and I can browse it from the other machine (like > everything else). > > I tried to map the guest account to the user "ale" that I use (and I > can access '/mnt/w2k'), but nothing happened. > > This only happens in a NTFS mount point. The files and directories > show as truncated, and I can not "see" (determine size, copy, > determine if it is a file or directory, etc.) them until I do an > operation over them with any normal user in the server, then I can see > the files/dirs affected by the operation I did (ls, etc.). Before I > only see the entries (names) without attributes (permissions, > directory flag, etc.). > > Thanks and Best Regards, > Ale I even tried mapping the guest account to root but it still does not work. Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:16:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D0416A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:16:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8723243D53 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDY001EFYNLTE@smtp13.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:16:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:16:33 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-id: <20050326181210.H715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: Subject: firefox 1.0.2 build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:16:35 -0000 Hello, I tried to portupgrade firefox from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2, but it fails with the following messages: nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `nsresult nsFontPSFreeType::Init(nsITrue TypeFontCatalogEntry*, nsPSFontGenerator*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1144: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1145: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'width' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1146: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'height' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `FT_FaceRec_* nsFontPSFreeType::getFTFac e()': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1231: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void nsFT2Type8Generator::Gener atePSFont(FILE*)': nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'width' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'height' nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no member named 'face_id' gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src/ps' gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src' gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx' gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Did anyone else ran into this problem? Thanks, Marco -- Government spending? I don't know what it's all about. I don't know any more about this thing than an economist does, and, God knows, he doesn't know much. -- Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:21:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B116116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BF743D64 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:21:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E05E51C000B4 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:21:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C7A8B1C000B3 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:21:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326172124817.C7A8B1C000B3@mwinf1106.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:21:22 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <239528826.20050326182122@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updated on SATA drive problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:21:26 -0000 Today I ran offline diagnostics against the SATA drive that I suspected of causing DMA errors and two system crashes. These offline diagnostics confirmed a problem with the drive and eliminated FreeBSD as a source of the problem. I replaced the drive and I'm watching to see if any of the mystery errors in FreeBSD return (at this point I don't expect them to, since it seems to have been a defective drive). It took a tremendously long time for me to figure out how to fix up the new drive for use. I'm still not sure what I finally did that apparently was in the right order and formatted everything correctly. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:23:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2658316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:23:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB78B43D53 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:23:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1590360E2 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:23:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83085-03 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:23:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87560DB for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:23:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42459AD8.90802@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:24:40 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <239528826.20050326182122@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <239528826.20050326182122@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: Updated on SATA drive problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:23:58 -0000 Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Today I ran offline diagnostics against the SATA drive that I suspected > of causing DMA errors and two system crashes. These offline diagnostics > confirmed a problem with the drive and eliminated FreeBSD as a source of > the problem. I replaced the drive and I'm watching to see if any of the > mystery errors in FreeBSD return (at this point I don't expect them to, > since it seems to have been a defective drive). > > It took a tremendously long time for me to figure out how to fix up the > new drive for use. I'm still not sure what I finally did that > apparently was in the right order and formatted everything correctly. > That's good news - I'm glad to hear that you are progressing with your issues. Once you have these items under control - you ought to have a more enjoyable experiance with whatever OS you wish to use. -- Best regards, Chris Keep emotionally active, cater to your favorite neurosis. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:36:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D7316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:36:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799A843D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id e.1e6.38328d96 (16087); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d39 (mblk-d39.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.223]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID104-3ed742459da3195; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:36:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:36:35 -0500 Message-Id: <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.223) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:36:35 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:36:51 -0000 --- Chris wrote: > em1897@aol.com wrote: > > Hmm, I wonder if the lack of performance, or the > unwanted > > emails were more heavily weighted in the > decision? > > > > If there was any intelligent life on the list you > could > > counter what you call "Trolls" with solid technical > > arguments. This reminds me of the old bsdi > > list. A bunch of half-wits who are just happy > > to belong to something and have other half-wits > > to correspond with. > > > > FreeBSD used to have open discussions between > > users and developers and it used to be real > > good. Now it sucks and the developers are > > detached, off in their own little world. See > > a pattern? > > > > But with a user base from places like gnu-rox.org > > and makeworld.com, what do you expect I > > guess? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Xavier Maillard > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:35 +0100 > > Subject: Re: A Riddle > > > > On 25 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: > > > >> If we're to prove a point to those that name > call, are rude, > >> troll, and all the other recent events, we must > do so on our > >> level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they > spew, and we > >> must simply either ignore it (the correct way > imho) Kill em > >> with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that > the user has no > >> idea what we're saying. > >> > >> Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it > goes too far. > >> > >> Over and out... > > > > > > I totally agree. This plus other things are the > reasons why I > > chose to switch to another OS. > > Users that Insult people that offer help (good or > bad) says much about > that user. > > The tactic at hand (at least with the user that top > posts) is to do > nothing more then what it is hoping to do - incite > anger *Sigh* > > Oh well - most of us are certainly above that. I don't agree. The spread of disinformation is like allowing a cancer to go untreated. There are a lot of people recommending a very poorly implemented OS because of the propaganda disseminated here. People's jobs and businesses are at stake. People waste a tremendous amount of time (me included) based on the ridiculously inaccurate comments made by people on this list. And like with alchoholism, the first step is admitting that you have a problem. If you're going to keep RA-RAing this "effort", then you are part of the problem. You can make a person "Angry" by calling him a loser. But if the shoe fits, it may very well need to be said to get him off his butt. As an aside, all of the major web mail providers default to "top posting". Google (ever hear of them?) only shows the top N lines of a post. So if you bottom post, you don't see the message you want to see without having to make an effort. So when are you troglodytes going to climb out of your 1994 hibernations and get with the times? You may prefer one over the other, but its hardly a capital offense to do otherwise. Most of us have evolved out of our unix newsreaders. Anyone with a brain is using web mail for mailing lists these days: no more whining about spam or "wasted bandwidth". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:40:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FEA16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:40:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D2F43D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:40:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5683460E2; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:40:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83085-06; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:40:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547AA60DB; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:40:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42459ED1.8040805@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:41:37 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: em1897@aol.com References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:40:56 -0000 em1897@aol.com wrote: > --- Chris wrote: > >> em1897@aol.com wrote: >> > Hmm, I wonder if the lack of performance, or the >> unwanted >> > emails were more heavily weighted in the >> decision? >> > >> > If there was any intelligent life on the list you >> could >> > counter what you call "Trolls" with solid technical >> > arguments. This reminds me of the old bsdi >> > list. A bunch of half-wits who are just happy >> > to belong to something and have other half-wits >> > to correspond with. >> > >> > FreeBSD used to have open discussions between >> > users and developers and it used to be real >> > good. Now it sucks and the developers are >> > detached, off in their own little world. See >> > a pattern? >> > >> > But with a user base from places like gnu-rox.org >> > and makeworld.com, what do you expect I >> > guess? >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Xavier Maillard >> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> > Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:43:35 +0100 >> > Subject: Re: A Riddle >> > >> > On 25 Mar 2005, Chris wrote: >> > >> >> If we're to prove a point to those that name >> call, are rude, >> >> troll, and all the other recent events, we must >> do so on our >> >> level. Allow them to spew what ever it is they >> spew, and we >> >> must simply either ignore it (the correct way >> imho) Kill em >> >> with kindness, OR, reply in such a fashion that >> the user has no >> >> idea what we're saying. >> >> >> >> Let's stop the erosion of this list now before it >> goes too far. >> >> >> >> Over and out... >> > >> > >> > I totally agree. This plus other things are the >> reasons why I >> > chose to switch to another OS. >> >> Users that Insult people that offer help (good or >> bad) says much about >> that user. >> >> The tactic at hand (at least with the user that top >> posts) is to do >> nothing more then what it is hoping to do - incite >> anger *Sigh* >> >> Oh well - most of us are certainly above that. > > > I don't agree. The spread of disinformation is > like allowing a cancer to go untreated. There > are a lot of people recommending a very poorly > implemented OS because of the propaganda > disseminated here. People's jobs and businesses > are at stake. People waste a tremendous amount > of time (me included) based on the ridiculously > inaccurate comments made by people on this > list. > > And like with alchoholism, the first step is > admitting that you have a problem. If you're > going to keep RA-RAing this "effort", then > you are part of the problem. You can make > a person "Angry" by calling him a loser. But > if the shoe fits, it may very well need to > be said to get him off his butt. > > As an aside, all of the major web mail providers > default to "top posting". Google (ever hear > of them?) only shows the top N lines of a post. > So if you bottom post, you don't see the message > you want to see > without having to make an effort. So when are > you troglodytes going to climb out of your > 1994 hibernations and get with the times? > You may prefer one over the other, but its > hardly a capital offense to do otherwise. Most > of us have evolved out of our unix newsreaders. > Anyone with a brain is using web mail for > mailing lists these days: no more whining > about spam or "wasted bandwidth". We love you. Have a great day! -- Best regards, Chris Program design philosophy: Start at the beginning and continue until the end, then stop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:47:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC6316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:47:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7614E43D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20050326174758.CMNV2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]>; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:47:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4245A049.9080405@ahze.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:47:53 -0500 From: Michael Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen References: <20050326181210.H715@yokozuna.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050326181210.H715@yokozuna.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: firefox 1.0.2 build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:47:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marco Beishuizen wrote: | | Hello, | | I tried to portupgrade firefox from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2, but it fails | with the following messages: | | | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `nsresult | nsFontPSFreeType::Init(nsITrue | TypeFontCatalogEntry*, nsPSFontGenerator*)': | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1144: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'face_id' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1145: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'width' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1146: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'height' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `FT_FaceRec_* | nsFontPSFreeType::getFTFac | e()': | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1231: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'face_id' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp: In member function `virtual void | nsFT2Type8Generator::Gener | atePSFont(FILE*)': | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1625: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'face_id' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1627: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'width' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1628: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'height' | nsFontMetricsPS.cpp:1633: error: 'struct FTC_ImageTypeRec_' has no | member named 'face_id' | gmake[4]: *** [nsFontMetricsPS.o] Error 1 | gmake[4]: Leaving directory | `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src/ps' | gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 | gmake[3]: Leaving directory | `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx/src' | gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2 | gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla/gfx' | gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 | gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla' | gmake: *** [default] Error 2 | *** Error code 2 | | Did anyone else ran into this problem? you need to update print/freetype2 to 2.1.9 and re-start the build. (you don't have to remove firefox WRKSRC) Michael | | Thanks, | | Marco | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCRaBIn4uqfTwEb9YRAnsPAJ4jEvCxOcSl1uiocf5cXmxp6zWdxQCbBlQM E0tcQ7DnYpdUDFswZHkmOX4= =hBdn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:50:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4CF16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFA343D48 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2QHoHxM013734 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:50:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:54:05 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: FreeBSD Questions List Message-ID: <20050326125154.Y49808@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: AWK in 4.X different from 5.X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:50:19 -0000 Are the AWK in the 4.X branch and 5.X branch different? Looking at http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/awkcompat.html#os11 it seems the AWK in the 4.X branch has strftime. I have 5.3 in my machine and AWK doesn't have that function. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 17:59:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B1D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:59:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D042943D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:59:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DFFZI-0002cs-Aw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:59:28 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:59:28 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:59:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20050326125154.Y49808@zoraida.natserv.net> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AWK in 4.X different from 5.X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:59:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Francisco Reyes scribbled these curious markings: > Are the AWK in the 4.X branch and 5.X branch different? > Looking at > http://www.shelldorado.com/articles/awkcompat.html#os11 > > it seems the AWK in the 4.X branch has strftime. > I have 5.3 in my machine and AWK doesn't have that function. Probably because the awk on a 4.x machine is GNU awk, whereas the 5.x awk is the awk that comes straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and so thus hasn't been "extended" with GNUisms. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRaMVk/lo7zvzJioRAnIaAJ9PoqgjruOl1n4xaWupkR8It5yEcQCggK5H Kt/c44EQ2hKao69bzpjfqa0= =E616 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 18:26:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B2D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:26:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595BD43D1D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:26:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 11C721C00173 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EABB31C0016B for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:27 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326182627961.EABB31C0016B@mwinf0907.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:27 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:26:29 -0000 cpghost@cordula.ws writes: > Well, not *fully* localized, since the commands were still the usual > bunch of 'ls' 'cp', 'mv' etc... (is that really English? ;-)), but > everthing else, including error messages and man pages were in german. > That was really weird looking, yet cute. Localizing software destabilizes it; localized versions always contain more bugs (often very hard-to-find bugs) than original versions. If I speak the language of the original authors of a software product, I always use the product in its original language. Localized versions are a constant source of trouble. Even Windows, which makes special provisions for localization, is still far more bug-prone in non-English versions, and I always try to install U.S.-English versions if I can get them. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 18:28:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3CE16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp9.wanadoo.fr (smtp9.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3127843D46 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:28:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 36DF01C00154 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1D9521C00151 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326182812121.1D9521C00151@mwinf0908.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:11 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:28:13 -0000 Perttu Laine writes: > I have 3,4ghz ht processor and freebsd shows up only one processors. I > suppose it should show two in ht models? so, GENERIC kernel doesn't > support it? but should I add to kernel config to enable it? by reading > config examples I think this should be enough: > > options SMP Yes, that's all you need. Just add that line, rebuild and reinstall the kernel, and you're all set. Works great. Hyperthreading doesn't buy you as much as truly separate processors, but it helps you get more bang for the buck out of your single processor (depending on the type of workload you run). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 18:50:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C7616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2974943D46 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D3F271C000B0 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:50:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA0C01C00093 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:50:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326185054762.BA0C01C00093@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:50:54 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11929402.20050326195054@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <42459AD8.90802@makeworld.com> References: <239528826.20050326182122@wanadoo.fr> <42459AD8.90802@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updated on SATA drive problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:50:56 -0000 Chris writes: > That's good news - I'm glad to hear that you are progressing with your > issues. Once you have these items under control - you ought to have a > more enjoyable experiance with whatever OS you wish to use. Now if I could just fine the problem FreeBSD has with my SCSI drives on my test machine. I noticed that the pages and pages of error messages I get sometimes when doing I/O to the disks are also generated even by something as simple as "smartctl -a" which presumably does not do any physical I/O to the platters. This would seem to rule out any hardware problems involving the media, actuators, etc. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 18:53:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB1716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:53:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (ns1.gnulife.org [199.86.32.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7560F43D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:53:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (localhost.gnulife.org [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2QIqh5Y006527 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost)j2QIqhYx006524 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) X-Authentication-Warning: floyd.gnulife.org: jamie owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:52:43 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050326124153.C6399@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Missing libraries when making c-client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:53:44 -0000 Greetings, I am having some trouble installing imap from source. I am building a machine for my boss who *insists* that I cannot use anything from the ports collection on the machine, so I can't use the imap port. The build is failing, and it seems as though it can't find some openssl include files, judging from the errors I am getting. This is on a stock 4.11 system. When I untar the imap-2004c1 source, I read the readme doc, and I ran make bsf since it is a FreeBSD install. It will not compile, though. Here is where it is failing: Building with SSL and plaintext passwords disabled unless SSL/TLS echo " mail_parameters (NIL,SET_DISABLEPLAINTEXT,(void *) 2);" >> linkage.c cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c Building OS-dependent module If you get No such file error messages for files x509.h, ssl.h, pem.h, buffer.h, bio.h, and crypto.h, that means that OpenSSL is not installed on your system. Either install OpenSSL first or build with command: make bsf SSLTYPE=none `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c osdep.c:138: x509.h: No such file or directory osdep.c:139: ssl.h: No such file or directory osdep.c:141: pem.h: No such file or directory osdep.c:142: buffer.h: No such file or directory osdep.c:143: bio.h: No such file or directory osdep.c:144: crypto.h: No such file or directory etc etc etc... In the Makefile, under the "bsf" target, we see that the path to the stock openssl libraries in FreeBSD is declared: bsf bso: an $(BUILD) BUILDTYPE=$@ \ SPECIALS="GSSDIR=/usr SSLDIR=/usr SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl/certs SSLKEYS=/etc/ssl/private LOCKPGM=/usr/sbin/mlock" ...and an ls of /usr/include/openssl does include x509.h, ssl.h, pem.h, etc. Does anyone have any explanation for why it isn't finding those files? Any direction I can go from here? I would rather not build an additional openssl package from a source tree as I would like to just use what is on the system. It would make things cleaner (fewer moving parts) when cvsupping and building world, etc. I would prefer to use the native libraries. Thanks, - Jamie The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:00:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0CE16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (ns1.gnulife.org [199.86.32.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAED043D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (localhost.gnulife.org [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2QIxoAk006607 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost)j2QIxo4a006604 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) X-Authentication-Warning: floyd.gnulife.org: jamie owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:59:50 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050326124153.C6399@floyd.gnulife.org> Message-ID: <20050326125718.X6399@floyd.gnulife.org> References: <20050326124153.C6399@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Missing libraries when making c-client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:00:42 -0000 > > > I am having some trouble installing imap from source. I am building a > machine for my boss who *insists* that I cannot use anything from the > ports collection on the machine, so I can't use the imap port. > > The build is failing, and it seems as though it can't find some openssl > include files, judging from the errors I am getting. > > This is on a stock 4.11 system. When I untar the imap-2004c1 source, I > read the readme doc, and I ran > > make bsf > > since it is a FreeBSD install. It will not compile, though. Here is where > it is failing: Here is something higher up in the make output that looks like it may be a clue: Building with SSL ln -s ssl_unix.c osdepssl.c echo -I/usr/local/ssl/include -I/usr/local/ssl/include/openssl -DSSL_CERT_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/local/ssl/certs\" -DSSL_KEY_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/local/ssl/certs\" >> OSCFLAGS echo " ssl_onceonlyinit ();" >> linkage.c echo -L/usr/local/ssl/lib -lssl -lcrypto >> LDFLAGS It seems to be setting info in the files OSCFLAGS and LDFLAGS to /usr/local/ssl, and I don't have any /usr/local/ssl directory, and I am unsure how this can be corrected properly. > > Building with SSL and plaintext passwords disabled unless SSL/TLS > echo " mail_parameters (NIL,SET_DISABLEPLAINTEXT,(void *) 2);" >> > linkage.c > cat osdepbas.c osdepckp.c osdeplog.c osdepssl.c > osdep.c > Building OS-dependent module > If you get No such file error messages for files x509.h, ssl.h, > pem.h, buffer.h, bio.h, and crypto.h, that means that OpenSSL > is not installed on your system. Either install OpenSSL first > or build with command: make bsf SSLTYPE=none > `cat CCTYPE` -c `cat CFLAGS` `cat OSCFLAGS` -c osdep.c > osdep.c:138: x509.h: No such file or directory > osdep.c:139: ssl.h: No such file or directory > osdep.c:141: pem.h: No such file or directory > osdep.c:142: buffer.h: No such file or directory > osdep.c:143: bio.h: No such file or directory > osdep.c:144: crypto.h: No such file or directory > > > etc etc etc... > > > In the Makefile, under the "bsf" target, we see that the path to the stock > openssl libraries in FreeBSD is declared: > > bsf bso: an > $(BUILD) BUILDTYPE=$@ \ > SPECIALS="GSSDIR=/usr SSLDIR=/usr SSLINCLUDE=/usr/include/openssl > SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl/certs SSLKEYS=/etc/ssl/private LOCKPGM=/usr/sbin/mlock" > > > > ...and an ls of /usr/include/openssl does include x509.h, ssl.h, pem.h, > etc. > > Does anyone have any explanation for why it isn't finding those files? > Any direction I can go from here? I would rather not build an additional > openssl package from a source tree as I would like to just use what is on > the system. It would make things cleaner (fewer moving parts) when > cvsupping and building world, etc. I would prefer to use the native > libraries. > > > Thanks, > > - Jamie > > > > > > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:04:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3650716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC00243D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECACA60E2; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83466-07; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:04:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400660DB; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:04:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4245B265.2040204@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:05:09 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Ostrowski References: <20050326124153.C6399@floyd.gnulife.org> In-Reply-To: <20050326124153.C6399@floyd.gnulife.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing libraries when making c-client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:04:25 -0000 Jamie Ostrowski wrote: > > Greetings, > > > I am having some trouble installing imap from source. I am building a > machine for my boss who *insists* that I cannot use anything from the > ports collection on the machine, so I can't use the imap port. Ahh - but did he tell you NOT to use packages?! -- Best regards, Chris A physician's ability is inversely proportional to his availability. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:22:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D416A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.acecape.com (mail1.acecape.com [66.114.74.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F1443D49 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@natserv.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mail1.acecape.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2QJM9jP005921; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:22:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:25:57 -0500 (EST) From: Francisco Reyes X-X-Sender: fran@zoraida.natserv.net To: Christopher Nehren In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050326142338.D50621@zoraida.natserv.net> References: <20050326125154.Y49808@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AWK in 4.X different from 5.X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:17 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Christopher Nehren wrote: > Probably because the awk on a 4.x machine is GNU awk, whereas the 5.x > awk is the awk that comes straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, > and so thus hasn't been "extended" with GNUisms. Thanks. That makes sense. Now I just wonder how to get date in my output. :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:22:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EBC16A4E6 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5F043D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from yokozuna.lan (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDZ008CR4GPUH@smtp15.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:22:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:22:01 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <4245A049.9080405@ahze.net> Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: Michael Johnson Message-id: <20050326202113.W715@yokozuna.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20050326181210.H715@yokozuna.lan> <4245A049.9080405@ahze.net> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: firefox 1.0.2 build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:22:21 -0000 On stardate Sat, 26 Mar 2005, the wise Michael Johnson entered: > you need to update print/freetype2 to 2.1.9 and re-start the build. > (you don't have to remove firefox WRKSRC) > > Michael Yes, this worked. Thanks. Marco -- I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up. -- Biff Barf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:30:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DEF16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:30:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9676C43D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:30:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) id j2QJUNtI019325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:30:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:30:23 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050326193022.GD12481@dan.emsphone.com> References: <239528826.20050326182122@wanadoo.fr> <42459AD8.90802@makeworld.com> <11929402.20050326195054@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11929402.20050326195054@wanadoo.fr> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Subject: Re: Updated on SATA drive problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:30:25 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 26), Anthony Atkielski said: > Chris writes: > > That's good news - I'm glad to hear that you are progressing with > > your issues. Once you have these items under control - you ought to > > have a more enjoyable experiance with whatever OS you wish to use. > > Now if I could just fine the problem FreeBSD has with my SCSI drives > on my test machine. I noticed that the pages and pages of error > messages I get sometimes when doing I/O to the disks are also > generated even by something as simple as "smartctl -a" which > presumably does not do any physical I/O to the platters. This would > seem to rule out any hardware problems involving the media, > actuators, etc. smartctl sends raw SCSI requests to the disk, and I think a recent change in either smartmontools or the scsi code is ending up with the wrong timeout value, so the request times out immediately. This happens to me when I launch smartd on all my machines, but it's intermittent and doesn't seem to affect anything (I get periodic temerature notifications after that with no timeout errors). See PR misc/73833 . -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:39:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9565916A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:39:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0959243D53 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.158.4d7b47bb (15877) for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d34 (mblk-d34.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.218]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-3e054245ba5835a; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:39:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:39:04 -0500 Message-Id: <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:39:04 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.218 Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:39:12 -0000 This is the kind of disinformation I have been referring to.... You'll get much better performance with 1 processor in UP mode. I suggest you do some testing. -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Atkielski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:11 +0100 Subject: Re: hyper threading. Perttu Laine writes: > I have 3,4ghz ht processor and freebsd shows up only one processors. I > suppose it should show two in ht models? so, GENERIC kernel doesn't > support it? but should I add to kernel config to enable it? by reading > config examples I think this should be enough: > > options SMP Yes, that's all you need. Just add that line, rebuild and reinstall the kernel, and you're all set. Works great. Hyperthreading doesn't buy you as much as truly separate processors, but it helps you get more bang for the buck out of your single processor (depending on the type of workload you run). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:40:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECC816A541 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:40:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45A143D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:40:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1048439wra for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lUifWHBpfP40SluzLbA8j7gBSCy/pe3lKSLcQWgKciWVRYH2aQvEnqBbFpcxnXAW6b9FwdkmVheRxyHOUAOXdZZLFQtkPZRgGMilfOZ749pIrZXmU/5vX9Lz9sTWG+0Fekx26HaYK7jU+HyARjx+U6BWK+SbRTSPGthgHw+mXEc= Received: by 10.54.4.8 with SMTP id 8mr1116943wrd; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.22 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:18:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <126eac48050326111860f241c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:18:46 +0100 From: Josh Ockert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:40:09 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:27 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > cpghost@cordula.ws writes: > > > Well, not *fully* localized, since the commands were still the usual > > bunch of 'ls' 'cp', 'mv' etc... (is that really English? ;-)), but > > everthing else, including error messages and man pages were in german. > > That was really weird looking, yet cute. > > Localizing software destabilizes it; localized versions always contain > more bugs (often very hard-to-find bugs) than original versions. > > If I speak the language of the original authors of a software product, I > always use the product in its original language. Localized versions are > a constant source of trouble. Even Windows, which makes special > provisions for localization, is still far more bug-prone in non-English > versions, and I always try to install U.S.-English versions if I can get > them. > > -- > Anthony > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To be honest I've never used a localized version of *NIX, though I imagine that the German version of SuSE (or whatever this weeks capitalization practice is) and the French version of Mandrake would be quite good. I also imagine there's probably also a good Canadian French version of OpenBSD. Then again, it could just be my imagination. On the other hand, I use the localized French versions of Windows XP Pro on the computer labs at school and they don't seem to have any problems -- with the exception that Japanese students always install this dumbass shareware IME program that sets the character set to SHIFT-JIS and Firefox's menus are fscked until you task manager and kill the blasted thing. There's no reason to think that string replacement would cause more bugs in the technical sense; however, a bad translation might contribute to a higher frequency of user error. Maybe I'll have to try installing French FreeBSD and seeing how well it goes :-D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:41:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4B016A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:41:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DADE43D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:41:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 16614 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 19:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.6.164]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Mar 2005 19:41:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:37:51 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Alejandro Pulver Message-ID: <20050326203751.3e5da8b8@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:41:56 -0000 Alejandro Pulver wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 5.3 with Samba 3.0.7,1. > > I can read all files from a Windows 2000 Pro. But when > I try to access a mount point that is an NTFS filesystem, I have no read > permission (files and directories appear as zero length files) until I > access them from the server machine (like doing an 'ls'). > > My configuration file is as follows: > > ===== BEGIN ===== > # Samba config file created using SWAT > # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) > # Date: 2004/12/11 19:24:02 > > # Global parameters > [global] > workgroup = VARNET > server string = FreeBSD 5.3 > security = SHARE > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m > max log size = 50 > dns proxy = No > > [mnt] > comment = Mounted Filesystems > path = /mnt > guest ok = Yes > > [printers] > comment = All Printers > path = /var/spool/samba > printable = Yes > browseable = No > > [ale] > comment = Ale's Home DIrectory > path = /home/ale > guest ok = Yes > ===== END ======= > > Note: I have subdirectories under '/mnt' like 'w2k', 'wxp', 'cam', and > 'tmp'. > > What am I doing wrong? Who owns the subdirectories and who is your guest user? I'm using samba version 3.0.11 and can't reproduce the described behavior. My smb.conf is: [global] workgroup = W62 netbios name = TP51 server string = Samba Server auf Laptop security = user encrypt passwords = yes log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 socket options = TCP_NODELAY wins support = yes dns proxy = no [fk] comment = No place like home path = /home/fk valid users = fk public = no writable = yes printable = no [mnt] comment = Quick test path = /mnt valid users = fk public = no writable = yes printable = no fk@r51 /mnt $ls -l total 8 drwxr-xr-x 1 fk wheel 0 Apr 22 2009 ad0s1 drwxr-xr-x 1 fk wheel 4096 Jan 1 1980 ad0s2 drwxr-xr-x 5 fk wheel 512 Mar 25 19:14 datenspeicher drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 19:03 test ad0s1 is ntfs, ad0s2 is fat32. Both can be used without any problems. I just noticed the strange dates. If I unmount ad0s1 and ad0s2, the dates make more sense. fk@r51 /mnt #ls -l total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 18:58 ad0s1 drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 15:03 ad0s2 drwxr-xr-x 5 fk wheel 512 Mar 25 19:14 datenspeicher drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 19:03 test Interesting. I'm using FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #2: Fri Mar 25 17:53:21 CET 2005. Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:43:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D0816A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C5E43D5C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan.haglund@crystalnorth.com) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6C1F838031; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA6737E9E; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (h194n4fls310o253.telia.com [81.229.63.194]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBB837E43; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4245BB4E.3050406@crystalnorth.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:10 +0100 From: Stefan Haglund User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Pulver References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> <424586CF.4030703@crystalnorth.com> <20050326135437.44b5d481@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050326135437.44b5d481@ale.varnet.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:43:14 -0000 Could you output the /etc/fstab? As far as I know, the major difference is that writing to NTFS isn't fully supported in Linux (last I checked). Maybe there is something Samba tries to do, that conflicts with that. Other than that I don't know, sorry. :-) Regards, Stefan Haglund >On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:59:11 +0100 >Stefan Haglund wrote: > > >>First of all, make sure those mounts are accessible for normal users, >>if you haven't. It's under the options for the mount in /etc/fstab, I >>think. You can always do a 'man fstab' if unsure. >> >>Does the username/password (check out 'smbpasswd') you are using to >>connect to samba exist in the samba user database? If not, samba won't >> >>know who you are, and will use the default guest user to access files >>(usually very restricted). That might be why you can access the mounts >>when you log in to the server, but not through server. >> >>If you go with the first, ALL users will have access. If you want to >>restrict it to, say, a certain group, you have to go with the second >>solution I think (and add users in the samba user database). >> >>Hope I got the issue correctly, else I dunno :-). >> >>Regards, >>Stefan Haglund >> >> >> > >Hello, > >Thank you for your reply. > >I am using the security level "SHARE" with "guest" enabled (I have only >two machines on my network). > >The mounts are accessible by normal users (like "ale"), the permissions >in '/mnt/w2k/' are 'rwxr-xr-x', the owner is "root" and group "wheel". > >I would like to add that I also have another share that is a FAT32 >partition (WinXP) and I can browse it from the other machine (like >everything else). > >I tried to map the guest account to the user "ale" that I use (and I can >access '/mnt/w2k'), but nothing happened. > >This only happens in a NTFS mount point. The files and directories show >as truncated, and I can not "see" (determine size, copy, determine >if it is a file or directory, etc.) them until I do an operation over >them with any normal user in the server, then I can see the files/dirs >affected by the operation I did (ls, etc.). Before I only see the >entries (names) without attributes (permissions, directory flag, etc.). > >Thanks and Best Regards, >Ale > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:49:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875C016A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:49:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E283E43D3F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:49:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A8460E2; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:49:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84131-04; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:49:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2049A60DB; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:49:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4245BCE1.6000201@makeworld.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:49:53 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050313) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: em1897@aol.com References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:49:11 -0000 em1897@aol.com wrote: > This is the kind of disinformation I have been > referring to.... > > You'll get much better performance with 1 processor in > UP mode. I suggest you do some testing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Atkielski > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:11 +0100 > Subject: Re: hyper threading. > > Perttu Laine writes: > >> I have 3,4ghz ht processor and freebsd shows up only one processors. I >> suppose it should show two in ht models? so, GENERIC kernel doesn't >> support it? but should I add to kernel config to enable it? by reading >> config examples I think this should be enough: >> >> options SMP > > > Yes, that's all you need. Just add that line, rebuild and reinstall the > kernel, and you're all set. Works great. Hyperthreading doesn't buy > you as much as truly separate processors, but it helps you get more bang > for the buck out of your single processor (depending on the type of > workload you run). > If you feel someone is in error - feel free to jump in and offer what you feel to be correct information. Sometimes sitting back and not correcting someone is far worse then someone offering information based on what they know, experience, or what have you. In this case, by NOT offering the correct information, YOU are just as much to blame for what you say is going on. For those of us that don't answer, we either don't know (as is the case wit myself) OR, they have not had a chance to read the thread. -- Best regards, Chris It is a simple task to make things complex, but a complex task to make them simple. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 19:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FA116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5063143D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:56:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id e.1ad.34678d2c (15874); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-d34 (mblk-d34.mblk.aol.com [205.188.212.218]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID71-3e024245be48212; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:55:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:55:52 -0500 Message-Id: <8C70054F30E8C8E-A44-3A1E4@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <4245BCE1.6000201@makeworld.com> Received: from 24.47.116.25 by mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com (205.188.212.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:55:52 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <4245BCE1.6000201@makeworld.com> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.218 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:56:07 -0000 I am offerring the correct information. Turning on SMP on an HT machine will kill the systems performance much more than hyperthreading will gain. I told him to test. The degradation is easily measurable. -----Original Message----- From: Chris To: em1897@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:49:53 -0600 Subject: Re: hyper threading. em1897@aol.com wrote: > This is the kind of disinformation I have been > referring to.... > > You'll get much better performance with 1 processor in > UP mode. I suggest you do some testing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Atkielski > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:28:11 +0100 > Subject: Re: hyper threading. > > Perttu Laine writes: > >> I have 3,4ghz ht processor and freebsd shows up only one processors. I >> suppose it should show two in ht models? so, GENERIC kernel doesn't >> support it? but should I add to kernel config to enable it? by reading >> config examples I think this should be enough: >> >> options SMP > > > Yes, that's all you need. Just add that line, rebuild and reinstall the > kernel, and you're all set. Works great. Hyperthreading doesn't buy > you as much as truly separate processors, but it helps you get more bang > for the buck out of your single processor (depending on the type of > workload you run). > If you feel someone is in error - feel free to jump in and offer what you feel to be correct information. Sometimes sitting back and not correcting someone is far worse then someone offering information based on what they know, experience, or what have you. In this case, by NOT offering the correct information, YOU are just as much to blame for what you say is going on. For those of us that don't answer, we either don't know (as is the case wit myself) OR, they have not had a chance to read the thread. -- Best regards, Chris It is a simple task to make things complex, but a complex task to make them simple. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 20:43:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E67A16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.pair.com (relay00.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A177343D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alejandro@varnet.biz) Received: (qmail 22785 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 20:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.varnet.bsd) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 26 Mar 2005 20:43:44 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 200.115.214.28 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:44:31 -0300 From: Alejandro Pulver To: Fabian Keil Message-ID: <20050326174431.36f6021e@ale.varnet.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20050326203751.3e5da8b8@localhost> References: <20050326122909.06ed9062@ale.varnet.bsd> <20050326203751.3e5da8b8@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Samba problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:43:46 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:37:51 +0100 Fabian Keil wrote: > Alejandro Pulver wrote: > > > I am using FreeBSD 5.3 with Samba 3.0.7,1. > > > > I can read all files from a Windows 2000 Pro. But when > > I try to access a mount point that is an NTFS filesystem, I have no > > read permission (files and directories appear as zero length files) > > until I access them from the server machine (like doing an 'ls'). > > > > My configuration file is as follows: > > > > ===== BEGIN ===== > > # Samba config file created using SWAT > > # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) > > # Date: 2004/12/11 19:24:02 > > > > # Global parameters > > [global] > > workgroup = VARNET > > server string = FreeBSD 5.3 > > security = SHARE > > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m > > max log size = 50 > > dns proxy = No > > > > [mnt] > > comment = Mounted Filesystems > > path = /mnt > > guest ok = Yes > > > > [printers] > > comment = All Printers > > path = /var/spool/samba > > printable = Yes > > browseable = No > > > > [ale] > > comment = Ale's Home DIrectory > > path = /home/ale > > guest ok = Yes > > ===== END ======= > > > > Note: I have subdirectories under '/mnt' like 'w2k', 'wxp', 'cam', > > and'tmp'. > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > Who owns the subdirectories and who is your guest user? > > I'm using samba version 3.0.11 and can't reproduce the described > behavior. > > My smb.conf is: > > [global] > > workgroup = W62 > netbios name = TP51 > server string = Samba Server auf Laptop > security = user > encrypt passwords = yes > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m > max log size = 50 > socket options = TCP_NODELAY > wins support = yes > dns proxy = no > > [fk] > comment = No place like home > path = /home/fk > valid users = fk > public = no > writable = yes > printable = no > > [mnt] > comment = Quick test > path = /mnt > valid users = fk > public = no > writable = yes > printable = no > > fk@r51 /mnt $ls -l > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 1 fk wheel 0 Apr 22 2009 ad0s1 > drwxr-xr-x 1 fk wheel 4096 Jan 1 1980 ad0s2 > drwxr-xr-x 5 fk wheel 512 Mar 25 19:14 datenspeicher > drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 19:03 test > > ad0s1 is ntfs, ad0s2 is fat32. Both can be used without any problems. > > I just noticed the strange dates. If I unmount ad0s1 and ad0s2, > the dates make more sense. > > fk@r51 /mnt #ls -l > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 18:58 ad0s1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 15:03 ad0s2 > drwxr-xr-x 5 fk wheel 512 Mar 25 19:14 datenspeicher > drwxr-xr-x 2 fk wheel 512 Mar 26 19:03 test > > Interesting. I'm using FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE #2: Fri Mar 25 17:53:21 > CET 2005. > > Fabian > -- > http://www.fabiankeil.de Hello, Thank you for your reply. My guest user is 'nobody', but I also tried with 'ale' and 'root' (wich owns the mount point). The directory '/mnt/w2k' is owned by 'root' and the group 'wheel', the permissions are rwxr-xr-x. Y have the same strange dates. Thanks and Best Regards, Ale From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 20:47:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CB616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:47:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hermes.fontys.nl (hermes.fontys.nl [145.85.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAFDA43D58 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:47:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ed@beastie.il.fontys.nl) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= X-Language-Identified: TRUE Received: from mail.il.fontys.nl ([145.85.127.32]) by hermes.fontys.nl (SMSSMTP 4.1.0.19) with SMTP id M2005032621474721896 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:47:47 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.il.fontys.nl (Postfix/VSRI) with ESMTP id 5AE3817062 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:49:08 +0100 (CET) Received-Locally: from mail.il.fontys.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sukke.il.fontys.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53049-05 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from beastie.il.fontys.nl (beastie.il.fontys.nl [145.85.127.5]) by mail.il.fontys.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by beastie.il.fontys.nl (Postfix, from userid 1833) id A730F28477; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:47:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:47:47 +0100 From: Ed Schouten To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050326204747.GB75587@il.fontys.nl> References: <20050324055905.GA50653@il.fontys.nl> <20050324155554.GA29162@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050324155554.GA29162@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at il.fontys.nl Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE: panic in ffs_valloc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:47:53 -0000 --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Kris Kennaway wrote: > Unfortunately that's a relatively common bug that no-one's been able to > track down yet. It is sometimes associated to failing drives, but not > always. I reinstalled my machine yesterday and it Just Works (tm), except for this warning in my dmesg: | ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3D49904459 where LBA is always the same number. Does that mean my disk has a bad block? Yours, --=20 Ed Schouten --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRcpzyx16ydahrz4RAi5OAJ9hKAcNS0D1CxtDXLVRdMVN9Hi7IgCgiIXQ DhEx0h8LjY4cnOTC4XcuY2I= =nU2m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:00:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689CC16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2658343D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:00:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 7906 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2005 21:00:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([pbs]775067@[83.129.6.164]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Mar 2005 21:00:45 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:59:59 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: em1897@aol.com Message-ID: <20050326215959.5c342118@localhost> In-Reply-To: <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:00:54 -0000 em1897@aol.com wrote: > --- Chris wrote: > > em1897@aol.com wrote: > > > Hmm, I wonder if the lack of performance, or the > > unwanted > > > emails were more heavily weighted in the > > decision? > > > > > > If there was any intelligent life on the list you > > could > > > counter what you call "Trolls" with solid technical > > > arguments. This reminds me of the old bsdi > > > list. A bunch of half-wits who are just happy > > > to belong to something and have other half-wits > > > to correspond with. > > > > > > FreeBSD used to have open discussions between > > > users and developers and it used to be real > > > good. Now it sucks and the developers are > > > detached, off in their own little world. See > > > a pattern? > > > > > > But with a user base from places like gnu-rox.org > > > and makeworld.com, what do you expect I > > > guess? Please have a look at your own email address. > As an aside, all of the major web mail providers > default to "top posting". Google (ever hear > of them?) only shows the top N lines of a post. > So if you bottom post, you don't see the message > you want to see > without having to make an effort. So when are > you troglodytes going to climb out of your > 1994 hibernations and get with the times? They don't default to top posting, they put the cursor on top, so you can read the whole message and cut irrelevant parts before replying. If Google doesn't display the whole message, the interface is crap. That's not the fault of anybody on this list. > You may prefer one over the other, but its > hardly a capital offense to do otherwise. Most > of us have evolved out of our unix newsreaders. If you want to be read by as many people as possible on this list, the easiest way is to write well formed mails. Unfortunately, you are not only top posting, your mailing software also inserts line breaks where there shouldn't be any and makes it hard to see who wrote what. Have a look at the beginning of this mail. Your quotation is a mess. > Anyone with a brain is using web mail for > mailing lists these days: no more whining > about spam or "wasted bandwidth". Having a brain is good, but using it is even better. If the web interface produces garbage, changing the interface could be a smart move. Just my two brainless cents. Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:01:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1CB16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:01:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB143D1D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:01:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C335D1C000BC for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:01:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9F7B01C000BA for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:01:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326210154653.9F7B01C000BA@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:01:54 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1006827290.20050326220154@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050326130042.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050321095647.R83831@makeworld.com> <1907678552.20050322101315@wanadoo.fr> <1181508865.20050322114009@wanadoo.fr> <818883554.20050322170548@wanadoo.fr> <20050326130042.S2949@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:01:56 -0000 Colin J. Raven writes: > How much time have you lost _just_ within the context of this thread > alone? Not very much, although it was virtually a total waste. > Everyone has attempted - with great diligence and considerable patience > - to *help* you. Most have spent a lot of bandwidth on ad hominem (see your own post for an example), and virtually none on constructive suggestions. And of those who offered relatively constructive suggestions, most were pure conjecture, often influenced by some sort of bias. > You said earlier (I seem to recall) that this isn't a production > machine, thus presumably it's a personal project. With hardware of this > vintage it's to be hoped so anyway. Yes. > My point is you've alreay lost time....on a personal project, with no > certainty of an outcome under *any* OS. Are you so wired in that all the > hours in your day are billable to some_project_or_other? I am often pretty short of time, yes. > I shouldn't have risen to this, but it's already gone from the realms of > the sublime to the utterly absurd. You've argued _yourself_ into a loop > from which there seems to be no egress. You're the one frothing > endlessly about something that you could have gone a long way to > troubleshooting or even solving! You apparently elected not to > for reasons best known to yourself. Thus - I think - it's time to put > this down and give everyone a much deserved rest from the eternally > utterly futile series of exchanges. See my comment above about ad hominem. If you're really that bothered by this thread, why do you expend so much energy on something as useless as a personal attack? Particularly at this late point, when I've hardly said anything at all about my problem on this server in several days (no time to look into it myself). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:06:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D136116A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:06:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8215F43D1F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:06:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E48371C000B3 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:06:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1C7A1C00087 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:06:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326210638794.C1C7A1C00087@mwinf1104.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:06:38 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <439876144.20050326220638@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:06:40 -0000 em1897@aol.com writes: > You'll get much better performance with 1 processor in > UP mode. I suggest you do some testing. Where can I see the results of your own exhaustive tests? The purpose of hyperthreading is to keep all hardware on the microprocessor working. Many instructions use only certain parts of the chip, leaving other parts idle. By allowing two execution contexts to be maintained simultaneously, hyperthreading makes it possible to better utilize hardware that might otherwise sit idle. The ideal case would be two threads executing completely different instruction sequences that use very different parts of this chip. I don't have exact figures but I'd guess that in ideal situations you might get 20%-30% extra out of a single processor in this way--enough to negate the greater overhead of the SMP logic. A situation in which hyperthreading would _not_ help would be any type of parallel processing, in which multiple threads execute very similar instructions. These instructions are likely to require the same parts of the microprocessor at the same time, so it's unlikely that they will be able to execute in parallel--one will have to wait for the other (because the microprocessor has logic areas that can function independently and simultaneously, but these areas don't do the same things, so they are not redundant logic). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:10:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EC616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:10:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A3243D39 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:10:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9A98A1C000BE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7C4491C000B2 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326211031509.7C4491C000B2@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:30 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <716205443.20050326221030@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <126eac48050326111860f241c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> <126eac48050326111860f241c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:10:32 -0000 Josh Ockert writes: > There's no reason to think that string replacement would cause more > bugs in the technical sense; however, a bad translation might > contribute to a higher frequency of user error. Windows is better adapted to localization than most operating systems, because it isolates resources like strings in a way that facilitates keeping them independent of code. Nevertheless, problems arise. Strings often grow much longer when translated. Unicode poses special problems. Buffer overflows are more likely. Formatting messages with variable fields gets more complex and difficult and harder to debug. And patches and fixes take longer to get for localized versions; dumps generated in localized versions are harder to debug, since everything has moved. The list goes on and on. All of these problems are multipled a thousandfold in UNIX and most other operating systems, where almost all language information is hard-coded directly into the software. Localization makes sense for ordinary end users, but not for IT professionals. They are vastly better off working in English. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:13:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132C316A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:13:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E57543D31 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:13:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so8775wri for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZgLiMsd/Iaqwn/A2QA96eZh/bf3uDtpClUMt/i9PKjGMsb/3xqVvqWlN0Tsh8gZGzOBZQNVmHiD7kkZJQEXICQX+rwV+95Es0izI4H+u85XdllUeS+aJ1QcqlXauJBEyato2eeI6SI/su23yOXnaVhu1fGImtv9SYxw7mYzmW/k= Received: by 10.54.4.8 with SMTP id 8mr1174706wrd; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.11.22 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <126eac48050326131362fe4ee4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:13:35 +0100 From: Josh Ockert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <716205443.20050326221030@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <1334553342.20050325220228@wanadoo.fr> <86psxmiyle.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> <20050326151125.GA90180@epia2.farid-hajji.net> <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> <126eac48050326111860f241c1@mail.gmail.com> <716205443.20050326221030@wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Ockert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:13:38 -0000 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:30 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Josh Ockert writes: >=20 > > There's no reason to think that string replacement would cause more > > bugs in the technical sense; however, a bad translation might > > contribute to a higher frequency of user error. >=20 > Windows is better adapted to localization than most operating systems, > because it isolates resources like strings in a way that facilitates > keeping them independent of code. Nevertheless, problems arise. Strings > often grow much longer when translated. Unicode poses special problems. > Buffer overflows are more likely. Formatting messages with variable > fields gets more complex and difficult and harder to debug. And patches > and fixes take longer to get for localized versions; dumps generated in > localized versions are harder to debug, since everything has moved. The > list goes on and on. >=20 > All of these problems are multipled a thousandfold in UNIX and most > other operating systems, where almost all language information is > hard-coded directly into the software. >=20 > Localization makes sense for ordinary end users, but not for IT > professionals. They are vastly better off working in English. >=20 > -- > Anthony >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 Oh I agree. Actually, my partner in my duo linguistique at the Centre de Linguistique Appliqu=E9e (in Besan=E7on) is an IT guy who wants to improve his English. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:17:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DAD16A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:17:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E939443D5A for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 284941C000A7 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:17:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 06A941C000A3 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:17:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326211730274.06A941C000A3@mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:17:29 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1923568236.20050326221729@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8C70054F30E8C8E-A44-3A1E4@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <4245BCE1.6000201@makeworld.com> <8C70054F30E8C8E-A44-3A1E4@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:17:31 -0000 em1897@aol.com writes: > I am offerring the correct information. Turning on SMP on > an HT machine will kill the systems performance much > more than hyperthreading will gain. Why? I've explained why hyperthreading can provide a modest gain in performance. Now explain to me why it would not. > I told him to test. > The degradation is easily measurable. If you can say with certainty that a degradation occurs, then you've already tested, in which case you can show your work. If you haven't tested, then you can't say anything with certainty, in which case your opinions are pure conjecture. A quick look at actual research done by various parties on the Web reveals that HT does provide the modest improvements to which I've alluded. It's not as impressive as two processors, but then again, nobody claimed it would be. It just makes better use of one processor and allows you to get more for your money from that processor. One advantage that I had not previous mentioned is that the availability of a logical processor for dispatch can improve response time in certain scenarios, even if the overall processor power doesn't increase that much. When compute-bound processes monopolize a single processor, the response time of the entire system can suffer; but if you have a second processor waiting for dispatch (even a logical HT processor), you can immediately attend to other tasks even as the compute-bound process runs, as long as it isn't launching multiple threads (which most such processes won't do). -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:22:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B7D16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B686543D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no ([194.54.107.19]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2QLMZBM039816 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:22:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> (Anthony Atkielski's message of "Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:27 +0100") Message-ID: <86d5tmkst7.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:53 -0000 Anthony Atkielski writes: > Localizing software destabilizes it; localized versions always contain > more bugs (often very hard-to-find bugs) than original versions. I fail to see how switching from one set of message strings files in a correctly written application would destabilize it. > Localized versions are a constant source of trouble. Even Windows, > which makes special provisions for localization, is still far more > bug-prone in non-English versions, and I always try to install > U.S.-English versions if I can get them. Oh, you're talking about Windows. Yes, there's been a lot of localization related trouble there. But then we're relatively safe from the secret brainfarts of Microsoft developers here. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:24:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9753616A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3091843D58 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:24:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (pcp173257pcs.plsntv01.nj.comcast.net [68.46.70.16]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886324102 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:24:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4245D401.8020906@atopia.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:28:33 -0500 From: Matt Juszczak User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041129) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Clean install of FreeBSD, many ports wont compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:24:22 -0000 Still can't figure out how to get my FreeBSD machine to work properly. I've tried everything. Download the ISO on Wednesday, Mar 23rd, from ftp.freebsd.org. standard install, cvsup'd the ports, and tried to install /usr/ports/editors/pico, /usr/ports/shells/bash2, and a couple other ports. The output of the bad compile of pico and bash are below: http://paste.atopia.net/108 http://paste.atopia.net/109 http://paste.atopia.net/110 http://paste.atopia.net/111 I tried memtest, a hard drive test, etc. I don't understand how a clean install of freebsd 5.3 - RELEASE could be doing this. For the record, I cvsup'd to cvsup2, and I've tried that server on another already installed 5.3-RELEASE and it worked fine. Please, any suggestions would be appreciated. I've never seen anything like this before. regards, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:32:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344B616A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BFA43D48 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E0F551C000AF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:32:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C0F351C000AE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:32:19 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326213219790.C0F351C000AE@mwinf1107.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:32:18 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1176697413.20050326223218@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86d5tmkst7.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> References: <968029093.20050326192627@wanadoo.fr> <86d5tmkst7.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:21 -0000 Peter N. M. Hansteen writes: > I fail to see how switching from one set of message strings files in a > correctly written application would destabilize it. As I've explained, changing string lengths can be a source of trouble; string copies that worked before are suddenly overflowing buffers. Inserting variable data into messages is also difficult with localized software, as the order and format of the variables must often change, and sometimes a lot of extra code is required to accommodate this. Special characters can cause code to fail if it is not prepared to handle 8-bit data--setting the high-order bit is especially likely to make trouble. There are lots of potential problems. And that's just with software that facilitates localization, such as Windows executables. In other environments, it gets a lot worse. > Oh, you're talking about Windows. Yes, there's been a lot of > localization related trouble there. But then we're relatively safe > from the secret brainfarts of Microsoft developers here. As I've already pointed out, localization is actually cleaner and safer in Windows programs than in most other types of software. Windows allows you to isolate strings and similar data in resource files built separately from the executable code. In many other environments, you have to either hard code all language data directly into the program, or you have to write your own code to allow broad localization. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:32:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9E416A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vs3.bgnett.no (vs3.bgnett.no [194.54.96.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEB543D2D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) Received: from amidala.datadok.no.bgnett.no ([194.54.107.19]) by vs3.bgnett.no (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2QLWRBM043918 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:32:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@bgnett.no) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> From: peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:30:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> (Anthony Atkielski's message of "Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:52:16 +0100") Message-ID: <868y4akscr.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-bgnett.no-virusscanner: Found to be clean X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:32:36 -0000 Anthony Atkielski writes: > I was thinking of UNIX itself, not X servers or related products. Take a peek in /usr/share/locale and /usr/local/share/locale next time you're at a FreeBSD or Linux system. > I doubt that even Apple has bothered to localize any of the UNIX > software for OS X. You haven't checked, then. Unless the company's been taken over by the beancounters again, I'd imagine localized messages are at least available for roughly the same languates available for the GUI parts. The thing is, as long as you stay away from command line options and scripting/programming language keywords (yes, I have more than 15 years' experience in the localization industry, I've seen quite a bit of such foolishness) and the software is sanely written, messages are fairly straightforward and risk-free to translate. . -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "First, we kill all the spammers" The Usenet Bard, "Twice-forwarded tales" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 21:53:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED4716A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from yearning.mcc.ac.uk (yearning.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.203.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E570943D49 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by yearning.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DFJEB-000CBf-Ss; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:56 +0000 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j2QLrs5t055174; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:54 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.13.1/8.12.6/Submit) id j2QLrn0A055169; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:49 GMT Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:48 +0000 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20050326215348.GA55143@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20050318031137.GA99419@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <423B03F7.70405@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423B03F7.70405@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to include header files in makefiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:58 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 04:38:15PM +0000, Chuck Robey wrote: : I honestly keep on switching back and forth, between thinking that the : best make is bmake, or gmake. They both have key items that make them : uniquely better. Other than parallel build tasks (-j2) what does bmake do that is important, other than being part of the native BSD platform? Jonathon McKitrick -- My other computer is your Windows box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 22:09:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9902C16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:09:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3440F43D53 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:09:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E96601C000A9 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:09:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CDB0E1C0009D for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:09:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050326220940842.CDB0E1C0009D@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:09:40 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1726757977.20050326230940@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <868y4akscr.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> References: <86710893.20050326135216@wanadoo.fr> <868y4akscr.fsf@amidala.datadok.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mot de passe root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:09:42 -0000 Peter N. M. Hansteen writes: > Take a peek in /usr/share/locale and /usr/local/share/locale next time > you're at a FreeBSD or Linux system. No need. I can look at the source of almost any UNIX program and see that there is no provision for localization at all, short of brute modification of the source code itself. But this is not unreasonable for a server operating system, although it's much harder to defend for software visible to potentially unsophisticated end users. However, back in the days when UNIX was written, localization was not a high priority, and when it was undertaken at all, it was done the hard way, by rewriting. > You haven't checked, then. No, I have not, but I should be _extremely_ surprised if Apple has gone through all the UNIX source code and modified it to permit easy localization. That would come perilously close to a rewrite. -- Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 22:19:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D331816A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:19:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7843D2F for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:19:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2QMJewn012100; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j2QMJd6F012099; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:19:39 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20050326221939.GA11995@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE: panic in ffs_valloc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:19:40 -0000 On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:16:57PM +0000, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 09:47:47PM +0100, Ed Schouten wrote: > * Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Unfortunately that's a relatively common bug that no-one's been able to > > track down yet. It is sometimes associated to failing drives, but not > > always. > > I reinstalled my machine yesterday and it Just Works (tm), except for this > warning in my dmesg: > > | ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=49904459 > > where LBA is always the same number. Does that mean my disk has a bad block? > > Yours, > -- > Ed Schouten This is a FWIW, but the same thing is happening with DMA "WRITES" on with my 5.3 CD set from Nov, '04 on a 160G Maxtor drive that I bought last July. 4.10 was fine, and my 5.2 to 5.3 upgrades went smoothly too. I used the CD set because I was configuring a dual-boot W2K/FBSD setup. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 22:30:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C6916A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp17.wxs.nl (smtp17.wxs.nl [195.121.6.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3946543D5C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from XGISH (ip3e833f72.speed.planet.nl [62.131.63.114]) 2004))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:30:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:32:16 +0100 From: Kiffin Gish To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <003901c53253$aa3ebd80$9700000a@XGISH> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Webmin core dumps... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:30:11 -0000 I recently did a portupgrade -arR of my server (freebsd 5.3) and since then webmin will not start -- it core dumps on me leaving a perl.core file in the current directory. Any ideas what could be happening here? Could it be because perl also happened to be upgraded? How can I fix this? Thanks alot in advance. -------------------------------------------- Kiffin Gish Gouda, The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 22:31:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9C16A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:31:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dime.dizinc.com (dime.dizinc.com [72.29.74.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FD243D54 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:31:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ckearns@creativedezignz.net) Received: from [24.159.86.4] (helo=[192.168.1.105]) by dime.dizinc.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DCJud-0006zt-UW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:01:24 -0500 Message-ID: <423AFADC.5050403@creativedezignz.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:59:24 -0500 From: Christopher Kearns User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ckearns@creativedezignz.net X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dime.dizinc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - creativedezignz.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Missing tiff-3.6.1_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:31:44 -0000 After installing freeBSD 5.3 on my system, many packages will not install. I get an error message that says Warning: tiff-3.6.1_1 is a required package but was not found. What do I need to do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 22:33:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D930316A4CF for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:33:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4866B43D4C for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from EM1897@aol.com) Received: from EM1897@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id n.92.23918b0a (16097) for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mblk-r28 (mblk-r28.mblk.aol.com [152.163.179.18]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v104.18) with ESMTP id MAILINID111-3ee14245e31e324; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:02 -0500 Message-Id: <8C7006AE7E80573-FAC-3B652@mblk-r28.sysops.aol.com> From: em1897@aol.com References: <1641928994.20050326192811@wanadoo.fr> <8C700529A2DFD74-A44-3A157@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <439876144.20050326220638@wanadoo.fr> Received: from 24.47.89.83 by mblk-r28.sysops.aol.com (152.163.179.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:33:02 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: <439876144.20050326220638@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 1.0.0.11984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-AOL-IP: 152.163.179.18 Subject: Re: hyper threading. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:33:08 -0000 Yes, the theory is very nice; you've done a nice job reading Intel's marketing garb. However if you don't have a specific hyperthreading-aware scheduler and particularly well-written, threaded applications, you'll lose more than you'll gain. Since FreeBSDs network stack isn't particularly well threaded, nor is the scheduler optimized for hyperthreading, you get a big mess at the kernel level. So if you have a nice application that does a lot of threaded math operations, you might think you've achieved something, But what you've missed is that the overhead to manage the "better utilization" of the dual-pipelines created by HT costs more than it gains. Hence, the loss of performance. The poblem is not at the application level, but at the kernel level. The SMP overhead is so substantial, and the OS is working thinking it has 2 processors, that process switching and interrupt handling slow down considerably. A machine with a 50% load UP will run 65-70% load with HT/SMP running. Like I said, its easily measurable. Thats at the kernel level (say routing or bridging performance). Now if the machine isn't a server, it may be just fine. Thats why I suggested testing. But for a network server HT is bad. Very Bad. Not only that, but FreeBSD 5.x actually has a higher capacity network-wise with 1 processor than 2, and I'm sure you can theorize why 2 processors should be faster than one. The theory only matters if you have well written code to handle it properly. FreeBSD is a long way off from that. -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Atkielski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:06:38 +0100 Subject: Re: hyper threading. em1897@aol.com writes: > You'll get much better performance with 1 processor in > UP mode. I suggest you do some testing. Where can I see the results of your own exhaustive tests? The purpose of hyperthreading is to keep all hardware on the microprocessor working. Many instructions use only certain parts of the chip, leaving other parts idle. By allowing two execution contexts to be maintained simultaneously, hyperthreading makes it possible to better utilize hardware that might otherwise sit idle. The ideal case would be two threads executing completely different instruction sequences that use very different parts of this chip. I don't have exact figures but I'd guess that in ideal situations you might get 20%-30% extra out of a single processor in this way--enough to negate the greater overhead of the SMP logic. A situation in which hyperthreading would _not_ help would be any type of parallel processing, in which multiple threads execute very similar instructions. These instructions are likely to require the same parts of the microprocessor at the same time, so it's unlikely that they will be able to execute in parallel--one will have to wait for the other (because the microprocessor has logic areas that can function independently and simultaneously, but these areas don't do the same things, so they are not redundant logic). -- Anthony _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"