From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 01:35:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D8016A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@hdk5.com) Received: from mail.alohahosting.net (oahu.alohahosting.net [64.75.245.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549E543D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:35:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@hdk5.com) Received: from [192.168.1.35] by alohahosting.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000259217.msg for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:47 -1000 Message-ID: <44CC0CBE.5080906@hdk5.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:34:54 -1000 From: "admin@hdk5.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@hdk5.com X-Spam-Processed: mail.alohahosting.net, Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:47 -1000 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 66.180.149.18 X-Return-Path: admin@hdk5.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.alohahosting.net, Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:48 -1000 Subject: Counting FreeBSD servers/boxes in use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@hdk5.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:35:13 -0000 Aloha Gurus, I see a lot of discussion on the list about logging how many FreeBSD boxes are deployed world wide. My own setup at my home noc has 8 mostly 6.* and one 4.11 running. My downtown noc has 14 some 6.* and 4.* boxes running. We are a small coperative of USERS who use Freebsd and a couple of OS10 Mac ( FreeBSD based). There may be a lot more of us out here than you imagine. Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Admin -- http://hawaiidakine.com -- http://hdk5.com -- -- http://internetohana.org -- http://freeBSDinfo.org -- + Supporting open source computing - FreeBSD 6.* + From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 01:57:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED91016A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BE943D53 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52941 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jul 2006 01:57:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H9UaGB97JUc6KosZ0dknXq4FLEIn2GmVQph03u/Ff2LbokieIDQJwokqBXWyXgxw+xPbF0SqtfknXoNTErfoU8Lxp0cYe50yE5daHLTfmpBKjTwpPh7iDYJRX0oYpwDt41gryFV4TrHX/EpOEn7mSIBgBpLwVnnD7EVCCusmNZ0= ; Message-ID: <20060730015722.52939.qmail@web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [222.129.234.118] by web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:57:22 PDT Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:57:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: Stojance , questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <44CBC581.4030902@mt.net.mk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Can I Make my own CD ROM bootable from this ftp server: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.1-RELEASE ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:57:24 -0000 Why don't you just download the CD image and burn that onto a CD? Go to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/ --- Stojance wrote: > Dear FreeBSD > Can I make my own bootable CD from FreeBSD, actually > from the ftp > server: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/6.1-RELEASE > ? > I really need it. I can't pay for your CD ROM so any > help would be very > much appreciated. > I'll download everything and put it on a CD and burn > it under Nero as a > bootable CD. > Please Help ME > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 02:04:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7C16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B08843D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 31054 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jul 2006 02:04:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yTlutvWcRNLhZqyDdn0iYU5yyh7ocZfssbup6CPKFgsh1lnVBhm9dmDuVa+mPB8ek6PfPet+VZKoV7/OXv4K3PCBH/DrD1Z3H+U/VdaSA/Wk197s9hXTz8VUjWnaVjjpCYq7o1pi2D9BJdqzNlOKVhSdCGtFvapjZs9a2+0fT68= ; Message-ID: <20060730020434.31052.qmail@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [222.129.234.118] by web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:04:34 PDT Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:04:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: Stojance , questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <44CBC0C8.6010704@mt.net.mk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: I can not decide because of an old notebook. Need Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:04:35 -0000 If you want it easy, go to Distrowatch.com and select one of the live CDs there. You should try out FreeSBIE, Frenzy, Damn Small Linux, and Vector Linux. First two are FreeBSD based while the last two are linux-based. You can run them as a live CD or use them as installers. --- Stojance wrote: > Dear FreeBSD > I really like your OS and I want to install it on a > really old Toshiba > Notebook (lap-Top). It has a 4GB HDD and 64 or 32 MB > RAM; Pentium II; > and I don't know the other specs. While reading the > installation manual > I got confused. Is there a faster way for > configuring all the stuff, > without all of the questions; or an automatic Mouse, > screen, keyboard, > Ethernet configuration. On that Toshiba notebook I > have installed > Windows '98 and I hate it so I want a Unix/Linux > type of system. A > friend of mine recommended FreeBSD and I want it. > Can you please supply > me with a simpler installation guide. I am so > worried that I won't make > it trough the installation -- or later on I won't > gonna be able to load > the OS. I want FreeBSD to take the whole disk, so I > hope that I won't > gonna have to make all those partitions ( Right? ), > I hope that FreeBSD > will do that for me. Oh, and will FreeBSD fit in a > normal 800MB CD? And > I'm unsure how to start the Installation process? I > need HELP NOW !!! > > Thank you > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 03:10:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A0B16A4DF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjobrien999@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EAB43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:10:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cjobrien999@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so289268uge for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:10:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qlIh02Wom14sCSrGO73TqEfOb2LHCAvqi98NiZfUoHxsLIRU70sIdR49++a2oySvrDN9tTFK3gX9s8tvTw/qv2RhWL9G3LwIv2U0/dJw+2DXc/xAeuIWi72kAvGz/yR11BwM0FFXEsxDbse2MbtbyRfr5qqXEStS24yMuYdvkZY= Received: by 10.78.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr211751hue; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.107.14 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:10:05 -0700 From: "Charlie OBrien" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: newbee to freebsd, unix, etc... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:10:07 -0000 Hi, im Charlie in Tucson Arizona. Im trying to teach myself FreeBSD and this is what i have done so far. I have downloaded and installed FreeBSD 6.1 onto my spare computer. i can boot the computer and login into the # prompt. how do i invoke the KDE windows environment? what are some other resources for me to learn the "how to do"... for example: how do i install applications. Im pretty proficient at using "microsofts" windows environment. any help is greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 03:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE4916A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98D343D80 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:34:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.06/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k6U3YLkp030968 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:34:21 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k6U3YK1W024836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:34:20 -0700 Message-ID: <44CC28C3.8040708@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:34:27 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.7.29.201932 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: newbee to freebsd, unix, etc... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:34:30 -0000 > how do i invoke the KDE windows environment? If you configured everything properly-in terms of XWindows-and have installed KDE, bringing up the KDE environment can simply be done using the command "startkde". You may prefer setting up more than that though, so I suggest modifying .xinitrc and adding startkde, then invoking startx instead. > what are some other resources for me to learn the "how to do"... > for example: how do i install applications. There are a few HOWTOs out there, but you should also consult the Handbook first... > Im pretty proficient at using "microsofts" windows environment. Welcome to a Unix environment though. Things are quite a bit different here. > any help is greatly appreciated. And help is gratefully given as long as respect is as well on the list :). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 03:37:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE4716A4DF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E398243D9C for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:36:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.06/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k6U3at0j031271 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:36:55 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k6U3atnr024910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:36:55 -0700 Message-ID: <44CC295D.1030303@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:37:01 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.7.29.202433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: help installing FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:37:19 -0000 adrian esquivel wrote: > Sorry for the last message... > Thanks everyone that has helped me. Ok, so I checked the ISO image and it > was perfectly fine. So I checked the ribbon cable and it actually is a > 40-conductor IDE cable. So this means that I need to change it for an > UDMA > (80 conductor)?? Oh, and when I change it, do I need to configure > something, > maybe on the BIOS or something... just asking No. CD drives are UDMA-33 compatible only, so 40-pin cables will suffice. If you want something faster than UDMA-33 with your hard drive(s) though (assuming you have EIDE hard drives), you should connect it/them with an 80-pin cable. Also, your BIOS should have the CD drive set to boot before the hard drive(s). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 04:21:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F3016A4E1 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5C443D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:21:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from jeeves.stilyagin.local (63-230-205-170.phnx.qwest.net [63.230.205.170]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k6U4LCvb004496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:21:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by jeeves.stilyagin.local (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6U4L6tV018965; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:21:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:21:06 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Charlie OBrien Message-ID: <20060730042106.GE3712@jeeves.stilyagin.local> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbee to freebsd, unix, etc... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:21:16 -0000 On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 08:10:05PM -0700, Charlie OBrien wrote: > Hi, im Charlie in Tucson Arizona. > > Im trying to teach myself FreeBSD and this is what i have done so far. > > I have downloaded and installed FreeBSD 6.1 onto my spare computer. > i can boot the computer and login into the # prompt. > > how do i invoke the KDE windows environment? > > what are some other resources for me to learn the "how to do"... > for example: how do i install applications. > > Im pretty proficient at using "microsofts" windows environment. > > any help is greatly appreciated. The handbook is a great resource that covers almost all aspects of running and configuring your system. It'll be a great help. Also, if you weren't aware, there's a user group in Tucson! I don't recall the URL just now, but if you have trouble finding it email me and I'll help you get in touch. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 05:52:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C3C16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from mail2.disney.com (mail2.disney.com [204.128.192.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94C343D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:52:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from imr1.disney.pvt (imr1.disney.pvt [153.7.231.20]) by mail2.disney.com with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:52:05 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com (sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com [153.7.30.142]) by imr1.disney.pvt with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:52:04 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com ([153.7.195.120]) by sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:52:04 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:53:00 -0700 Message-Id: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0EEC@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Thread-Index: AcazHv8dMz92HRxvSgSTkEegp/IGRwAfWJvg From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "Born, Clinton" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2006 05:52:04.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[48F16ED0:01C6B39C] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:52:06 -0000 Morons proliferate this list. -----Original Message----- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net]=20 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:55 AM To: Born, Clinton Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? On Jul 29, 2006, at 6:39 AM, Born, Clinton wrote: > Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. As you are yourself Chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:56 PM > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Born, Clinton" > To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" ; "Born, Clinton" > > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:24 AM > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > >> A predilection to evangelize tools that supports ones own belief in >> software superiority is what curtails our ability to move any =20 >> platform >> forward. I would keep a hesitant eye on any individual that holds =20 >> such >> fervent beliefs. > > Do you keep a hesitant eye on Microsoft, then? Since they are one of > the > biggest evangelizers of their own tools there is... > >> I have old NT servers that have run Disney.com > > Apparently, not. > >> for >> several years and have served us well. Technology is an enabler, =20 >> not a >> divider. Too many people unknowingly adopt the later. >> > > This is just a load of dingos kidneys. Your no better than anyone =20 > else > you > are just spewing to sound superior. > > The "best tool for the job" why that is a loaded statement if there =20 > ever > was > one. > There are precious few jobs > out there that I can think of that there are not multiple, different > tools > for that > many people use with equal success. In fact the only one that =20 > comes to > mind > is pulling the tilt steering wheel on a 80's-90's GM vehicle, since it > uses > a > special tool that only SnapOn ever manufactured. > > One person's "best tool" is another person's junk tool. This is a > subjective > judgement if there ever was one. And there is really nothing wrong =20 > with > it. > > Sorry if it offends your politically correct credentials (good example > of > why > disney's quality has gone down the toilet in the last 20 years) but it > does > not > harm anyone's ability to move any platform forward to have a bunch of > vocal > detractors out there. Everyone loves their platform of choice and =20 > it is > perfectly > OK for them to be as vocal as they like, and nobody is harmed for that > happening. > > The people who are willing to be open minded will use a mix of tools > from > Microsoft and the rest of the world, and the people who are closed > minded > will use tools from Microsoft, and neither is going to pay any =20 > attention > to > whatever > loudmouths are bandmouthing their choices. That's the way the =20 > world has > worked in the past when IBM was king people did the same thing, and > that's > the way it will always work. > > You can stand up an be counted as an open minded person, or you can =20 > use > NT > and stand up to be counted with the closed minded people who only use > Microsoft solutions. It's your choice. > > Ted > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Leigh > -- >> Shire.Net LLC >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:31 PM >> To: Born, Clinton >> Cc: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> >> On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: >> >>> Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to >>> allocate our >>> shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period! >> >> That is not as easy as you make it out to be. WHat one might in the >> short term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when >> support is dropped and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to >> replace it with something else... So making value judgments like >> tools that are known to be well supported on FReeBSD for example is >> part of determining the best tool for the job >> >> Chad >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Amitabh > Kant >>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM >>> To: Nikolas Britton >>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >>> >>> And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for >>> recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few > different >>> companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that >>> have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID >>> cards. >>> >>> On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: >>>> Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting > are >>>> pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't > work >>>> on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve >>>> it's >>>> uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor >>>> doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing > open >>>> documentation. >>>> >>> >>> I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether >>> to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their >>> product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with > our >>> money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support >>> *BSD. >>> >>> Amitabh >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> --- >> Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >> Your Web App and Email hosting provider >> chad at shire.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 06:20:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FC716A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdtelting-ml@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDA743D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdtelting-ml@comcast.net) Received: from mail.local (c-24-126-49-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.126.49.116]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20060730062012m1300mg38ce>; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:12 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.63] (Hermes.local [192.168.1.63]) by mail.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D3AD for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44CC4F29.9080201@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:18:17 -0700 From: "Chris T." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: A more appropriate list to find programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:13 -0000 Just wondering if there is a more appropriate list to help identify BSD or GPL programs/code for specific applications. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 06:20:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495CF16A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A201B43D53 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so315849uge for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:20:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=AWqF6mmachePJtRYcYlV0KRF9vfUwzxmWB/hV0c1A82vEOgMlGnktzv2AcO0rez3SG23jPUvgKPqll9EWC4cqGwHix9k0FwYf9xW1LHjcZyVGd4xkqLxar3o2VFvGXinRS6qmWGSP9Wvivhig1mBSd2Ve5ugX+QRTJED1/LvMUQ= Received: by 10.78.157.8 with SMTP id f8mr231248hue; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.180.9 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:50:45 +0530 From: "Only OpenSource" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: how to panic FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:20:48 -0000 Hello I am trying to learn kernel debugging and one of the approaches I have come up with is to introduce situations in the sys code by which the compiled kernel is buggy and will panic. My query is what are the typical bugs that I can introduce in say by which the kernel would panic. Thanks for any help. -- oo@@oo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 06:42:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3643616A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13E843D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:42:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k6U6fox85458; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001101c6b3a3$43e7be60$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0E92@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:42:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:42:06 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS solutions and FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 06:50:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BA316A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54B243D4C for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:50:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k6U6omx85500; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002001c6b3a4$85212c30$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Josh Paetzel" , References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0BBE@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com><003a01c6b2cb$4b67d900$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <200607290411.36492.josh@tcbug.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:51:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:50:54 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Paetzel" To: Cc: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > On Friday 28 July 2006 23:56, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > The people who are willing to be open minded will use a mix of > > tools from Microsoft and the rest of the world, and the people who > > are closed minded will use tools from Microsoft, and neither is > > going to pay any attention to whatever > > loudmouths are bandmouthing their choices. That's the way the > > world has worked in the past when IBM was king people did the same > > thing, and that's the way it will always work. > > > > You can stand up an be counted as an open minded person, or you can > > use NT and stand up to be counted with the closed minded people who > > only use Microsoft solutions. It's your choice. > > > > Ted > > I don't mean to troll at all but I have to point out that I've met a > lot of "closed minded people" who will only use FBSD solutions. :) > I know, it goes both ways. But, you can't get folks like the poster out of their sanctimonious ruts unless you shock some sense into them. I've held a mirror up to him so he can see that he's doing exactly what he's claiming in his holier-than-thou statement that everyone else shouldn't be doing. He can choose to continue to see himself as he thinks he is, or he can open the eyes of knowledge and see himself as he really is, and as the rest of us see him. The one thing about the folks that are FreeBSD bigots is that they usually aren't working as IT professionals, since the world demands even for the most close-minded IT professional that they must at least use some Windows even if in a periphery fashion. So, those bigots can't do much damage. But, there are quite a lot of Windows-only bigots out there who are working in a professional capacity. As long as those people are honest and tell everyone up front that they are Windows bigots, it's not a problem. But, the ones that claim that they are OS-agnostic, then always seem to use MS solutions because they are "better" or "the best tool for the job" those are the dishonest ones that do a great deal of damage. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 07:10:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA62016A4E5 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from havoc.unixathome.org (havoc.unixathome.org [66.154.98.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B6B43D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:10:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@havoc.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310FD564C9 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:10:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from havoc.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (havoc.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FOly3TWxxHdB for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by havoc.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 55A48564C6; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060730071004.55A48564C6@havoc.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-07-09 - 2006-07-29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:10:13 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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(VPS 0630-4, 29/07/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Fetching install.cfg from a remote machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:15:11 -0000 EHLO I would like to know if someone has published some patch or found a solution to perform a automatic installation via sysinstall but with a remote (ftp/http/nfs) install.cfg file? I found some solutions using a PXE boot disk and mount via NFS but don't want to put NFS shares and DHCP "specific" server to do only that task. Do the rebuild of the ISO image itself with the "install.cfg" on the CD is also an alternate option but we will have to rebuild the ISO, re-burn images every time we change an option - Use a new release and so on... 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Questions/Réponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et vos expériences. http://fr.answers.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 09:43:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077016A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F71B43D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:43:53 +0200 id 0003982F.44CC7F59.00002A67 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:43:53 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: update info on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:43:56 -0000 Normally I upgrade my ports if I see new versions. But now I have a question: I saw a new apache22 version (apache-2.2.2_1) but on the apache site I could not find anything related to security bugs or whatever. I *did* find a version 2.2.3 though (not yet in ports!) So now I wonder, what is the difference of port apache-2.2.2 and the latest one "apache-2.2.2_1" Imho it should be nice to have some kind of info file in the port telling the reasons to upgrade. Does anyone know? Or should I just wait for apache-2.2.3 (can't be that long). -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 09:49:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC4B16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [217.20.133.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA1143D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:49:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913FD99B0E9; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:49:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gkMuf4G76e-N; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-50635cb6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.92.182]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADF8999B37; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:49:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CC808B.6070909@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:48:59 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_K=F6vesd=E1n?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick hoogendijk References: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: update info on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:49:12 -0000 dick hoogendijk wrote: > Normally I upgrade my ports if I see new versions. > But now I have a question: I saw a new apache22 version (apache-2.2.2_1) > but on the apache site I could not find anything related to security bugs > or whatever. I *did* find a version 2.2.3 though (not yet in ports!) > > So now I wonder, what is the difference of port apache-2.2.2 and the > latest one "apache-2.2.2_1" > Imho it should be nice to have some kind of info file in the port telling > the reasons to upgrade. Does anyone know? > Or should I just wait for apache-2.2.3 (can't be that long). > > You can check the cvs commit logs, to determine what has changed: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache22/Makefile As you can see, the mod_rewrite vulnerability is already fixed in 2.2.2_1, but it's still 2.2.2. -- Cheers, Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 09:51:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE3216A589 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from signal.itea.ntnu.no (signal.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C1243D77 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:51:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990C2337B0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by signal.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:51:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 524 invoked by uid 88); 30 Jul 2006 11:51:02 +0200 Received: from 37.84-48-193.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.7]) (84.48.193.37) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; søn, 30 jul 2006 11:51:01 +0200 Message-ID: <44CC815D.1080102@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:52:29 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick hoogendijk References: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBFB96DFC77B410168335EE10" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char F8 hex) in message header 'Received' Received: ...smtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; s\370n, 30 jul 2006 ... ^ Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: update info on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:51:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBFB96DFC77B410168335EE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dick hoogendijk wrote: > Normally I upgrade my ports if I see new versions. > But now I have a question: I saw a new apache22 version (apache-2.2.2_1= ) > but on the apache site I could not find anything related to security bu= gs > or whatever. I *did* find a version 2.2.3 though (not yet in ports!) >=20 > So now I wonder, what is the difference of port apache-2.2.2 and the > latest one "apache-2.2.2_1" > Imho it should be nice to have some kind of info file in the port telli= ng > the reasons to upgrade. Does anyone know? > Or should I just wait for apache-2.2.3 (can't be that long). >=20 You should check out freshports.org Fix security issue in mod_rewrite. All people using mod_rewrite are strongly encouraged to update. An off-by-one flaw exists in the Rewrite module, mod_rewrite. Depending on the manner in which Apache httpd was compiled, this software defect may result in a vulnerability which, in combination with certain types of Rewrite rules in the web server configuration files, could be triggered remotely. For vulnerable builds, the nature of the vulnerability can be denial of service (crashing of web server processes) or potentially allow arbitrary code execution. This issue has been rated as having important security impact by the Apache HTTP Server Security Team Updates to latest versions will follow soon. In addition to show changelogs for the ports, freshports also lets you "watch" one or more ports and be pinged whenever there's a new version. You should also install portaudit. This will give a list of installed ports on your system with known security issues. Also, if installed, it will will warn you if you try to install a port with such issues, and prompt you to update your ports tree. Svein Halvor --------------enigBFB96DFC77B410168335EE10 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFEzIFhhQg3vZGYu0ARArbVAJ9GA+8yJJbXin3OaOdTWEWr4irlcQCgp1nI llD2xsKYLgJm7fhkY2DRjMM= =+qek -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBFB96DFC77B410168335EE10-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 10:15:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93E516A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBBC43D4C for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:15:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UAFjAe049484; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:15:48 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44CC86BD.6000900@webanoide.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:15:25 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dick hoogendijk References: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on overlord.navalradio.cl Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: update info on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:15:59 -0000 dick hoogendijk wrote: > Normally I upgrade my ports if I see new versions. > But now I have a question: I saw a new apache22 version (apache-2.2.2_1) > but on the apache site I could not find anything related to security bugs > or whatever. I *did* find a version 2.2.3 though (not yet in ports!) > > So now I wonder, what is the difference of port apache-2.2.2 and the > latest one "apache-2.2.2_1" > Imho it should be nice to have some kind of info file in the port telling > the reasons to upgrade. Does anyone know? > Or should I just wait for apache-2.2.3 (can't be that long). > Others already mentioned you about the vulnerability found in v2.2.2. As an addition, you might want to consider installing this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/security/portaudit/pkg-descr It'll check and report on a daily basis any vulnerabilities found in your currently installed ports. Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 11:00:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EAA16A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB9643D5D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:00:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:00:01 +0200 id 00039829.44CC9131.0000034F Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:00:01 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060730110001.GA814@arwen.nagual.nl> References: <20060730094353.GA6870@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <44CC86BD.6000900@webanoide.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44CC86BD.6000900@webanoide.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: update info on ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:00:08 -0000 On 30 Jul Mikhail Goriachev wrote: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > > So now I wonder, what is the difference of port apache-2.2.2 and the > > latest one "apache-2.2.2_1" > > Others already mentioned you about the vulnerability found in v2.2.2. > As an addition, you might want to consider installing this: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/security/portaudit/pkg-descr > It'll check and report on a daily basis any vulnerabilities found in > your currently installed ports. Thank you for the replies. They were to be learned from ;-) I'll install portaudit and check the cvs and freshports more often. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 11:02:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A44B16A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C343D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:02:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567682E024; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:02:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CC91D9.5020701@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:02:49 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe LAQUET References: <44CC789A.1050805@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <44CC789A.1050805@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000307080309080102060408" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Fetching install.cfg from a remote machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:02:57 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000307080309080102060408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Philippe LAQUET wrote: > I would like to know if someone has published some patch or found a > solution to perform a automatic installation via sysinstall but with a > remote (ftp/http/nfs) install.cfg file? I found some solutions using a > PXE boot disk and mount via NFS but don't want to put NFS shares and > DHCP "specific" server to do only that task. You don't need to setup nfs, install.cfg can be fetched with ftp. You can setup a PXEBoot jumpstart server that runs only tftp and dhcp, then in the install.cfg define a remote ftp server and the release you want. check this www.daemonsecurity.com/pub/pxeboot/ Alternatively, you can create a custom "boot-only" type iso which fetches the install.cfg, but in all cases, if you don't want to redo a lot of your work every time a new release comes out, you need to install using ftp. 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id B25DA5E1E; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:26:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eniSvj6hbcsE; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-117-245.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.117.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D195A5CC4; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44CC9773.7040308@mac.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:26:43 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chris T." References: <44CC4F29.9080201@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <44CC4F29.9080201@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A more appropriate list to find programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:26:53 -0000 Chris T. wrote: > Just wondering if there is a more appropriate list to help identify BSD > or GPL programs/code for specific applications. freebsd-ports@ ...? http://www.freebsd.org/ports/categories-grouped.html Note that ports include software under a wide variety of licenses. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 11:37:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C40016A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24CFD43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:37:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26578 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jul 2006 11:37:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VsMbHXh6B9U7q7l+7x4OELVF17TO2M9mNealpZLbFj9ZWqPpwemaIhiwMvFwFcCgbX2gvX75RWnVa66LQfwGQb3qCrGB5FZSTxIEbeY+aYep9H3wNo+47nFeVKcRTE2hNz9yG7OzZiO2KdEbeweWAMS6bJKjByCwsEDXc8LgKBY= ; Message-ID: <20060730113740.26576.qmail@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [222.129.234.118] by web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:37:40 PDT Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:37:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: Charlie OBrien , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: newbee to freebsd, unix, etc... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:37:41 -0000 Hi Charlie, I am presently trying to teach myself FreeBSD too and the best HOWTO/Tutorial/Book out there for guys like us are, in my opinion, the FreeBSD Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) and Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD (http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/). I've found the two to be very helpful. -- Bryan Charlie OBrien wrote: Hi, im Charlie in Tucson Arizona. Im trying to teach myself FreeBSD and this is what i have done so far. I have downloaded and installed FreeBSD 6.1 onto my spare computer. i can boot the computer and login into the # prompt. how do i invoke the KDE windows environment? what are some other resources for me to learn the "how to do"... for example: how do i install applications. Im pretty proficient at using "microsofts" windows environment. any help is greatly appreciated. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 11:39:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFF716A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB4D43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:39:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AFC5DAC; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:39:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XzjdQiTsySkn; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-117-245.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.117.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6715D79; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44CC9A87.4060907@mac.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:39:51 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Only OpenSource References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to panic FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:39:58 -0000 Only OpenSource wrote: > I am trying to learn kernel debugging and one of the approaches I have > come up with is to introduce situations in the sys code by which the compiled > kernel is buggy and will panic. Most people introducing bugs into the kernel do so by accident, rather than deliberately. Most people trying to debug the kernel use optional printf or kernel-logging statements (see PDEBUG, CF_DEBUG, VLOG, etc) controlled by things like DEBUG, WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc. > My query is what are the typical bugs that I can introduce in say by > which the kernel would panic. If you want to panic the kernel, just call panic("some reason") directly. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 12:22:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6C916A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707F043D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25B22E024 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CCA48A.8030602@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:22:34 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?RXJpayBOw7hyZ2FhcmQ=?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020709060303070700070606" Cc: Subject: How do I set hardware parameters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:22:42 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020709060303070700070606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I have a lot of problems with my new laptop (VAIO FJ3S/FJ1S) that seem to relate to conflicting hardware, it's been years since I've last had this kind of problems. The wireless nic doesn't work, it's on irq 10 but the first ifconfig causes an irq storm on irq 5. The USB doesn't work, it doesn't register new devices when attached, and even if I attach a usb mouse before boot, I doesn't work. The cardbus doesn't work either, I could live with a malfunctioning wireless nic if I could then use my pcmcia card from my old laptop. Everything is on a ICH6 bus: lspci -tv -[0000:00]-+-00.0 Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express | Processor to DRAM Controller +-02.0 Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express | Graphics Controller +-02.1 Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express | Graphics Controller +-1b.0 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) | High Definition Audio Controller +-1d.0 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) | USB UHCI #1 +-1d.1 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) | USB UHCI #2 +-1d.7 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) | USB2 EHCI Controller +-1e.0-[0000:06-07]--+-08.0 Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. | | RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ | +-09.0 Texas Instruments PCI7420 | | CardBus Controller | +-09.2 Texas Instruments PCI7x20 | | 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port | | PHY/Link-Layer Controller | +-09.3 Texas Instruments | | PCI7420/PCI7620 Dual Socket | | CardBus and Smart Card Cont. w/ | | 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port | | PHY/Link-Layer Cont. and | | SD/MS-Pro Sockets | \-0a.0 Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless | 2200BG +-1f.0 Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface | Bridge +-1f.2 Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller \-1f.3 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller How do I manually configure the hardware device parameters? I suppose that setting these in loader.conf will override device.hints? Is there any way to tweak hardware configuration after boot? (so I can try and retry without endless rebooting) How do I figure out which parameters that can be set? Are there any tools for figuring out the right values? Is there a way I can elimiate problematic devices so they don't interfere? dmesg and pciconf -bv follows below. Thanks! Erik FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #2: Sat Jul 29 15:17:47 CEST 2006 norgaard@photon:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VAIO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz (1729.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6d8 Stepping = 8 Features=0xafe9fbff Features2=0x180 AMD Features=0x100000 real memory = 1063845888 (1014 MB) avail memory = 1036279808 (988 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xb0080000-0xb00fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xb0040000-0xb007ffff irq 10 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M drmsub0: : (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xb0080000 0MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 5 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 29.7 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib1 rl0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xb0104000-0xb01040ff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci6 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:13:a9:44:44:a8 cbb0: mem 0xb0105000-0xb0105fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci6 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pci6: at device 9.2 (no driver attached) pci6: at device 9.3 (no driver attached) pci6: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1870-0x187f at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: failed to enable memory mapping! ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 ichsmb0: port 0x18a0-0x18bf irq 10 at device 31.3 on pci0 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED] smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xdb800-0xdbfff,0xdc000-0xdffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (port) speaker0: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (memory) unknown: can't assign resources (irq) Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1729014114 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 95396MB at ata0-master SATA150 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 lspci -bv 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 Memory at b0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) I/O ports at 1800 Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) Memory at b0040000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: fast devsel Memory at fff80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 Memory at 00000000b0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 1820 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 1840 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 Memory at b0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] Debug port 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d3) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=07, sec-latency=216 I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff Memory behind bridge: b0100000-b01fffff Capabilities: [50] #0d [0000] 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 255 I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at 1870 Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 18a0 06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at 2000 Memory at b0104000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 06:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI7420 CardBus Controller Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 Memory at b0105000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Bus: primary=06, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=32 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 06:09.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments PCI7x20 1394a-2000 OHCI Two-Port PHY/Link-Layer Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 81f1 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 7 Memory at b0104800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at b0100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 06:09.3 Mass storage controller: Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 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id 7AF6E16A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF54843D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:23:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UCNJKr049798; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:23:22 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44CCA4A3.4020806@webanoide.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:22:59 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bryan Bonifacio References: <20060730113740.26576.qmail@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060730113740.26576.qmail@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on overlord.navalradio.cl Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Charlie OBrien Subject: Re: newbee to freebsd, unix, etc... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:23:35 -0000 Bryan Bonifacio wrote: > Hi Charlie, > > I am presently trying to teach myself FreeBSD too and the best HOWTO/Tutorial/Book out there for guys like us are, in my opinion, the FreeBSD Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/) and Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD (http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/). > > I've found the two to be very helpful. > In addition, after you're done with those, there are excellent articles on www.onlamp.com site. For instance, the ones about ports[1] are just amazing. Cheers, Mikhail. [1] - http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/09/18/FreeBSD_Basics.html -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 12:40:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C316A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from niekdekker@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025D843D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from niekdekker@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so259592pyb for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fJkWWv5B7cDEK1eTh/ypi8jQNYF8JoAKeIQTpXvHyraib54VAPl0TOxxpQWmHtwe8y0XLh2fdbsL9/0+JAntVB7HzILS82G34sat0wzgquH2IPistC4QlDdQxV1yN/DaJwpURIterB+786OSPoNoCX0khs3ROOs896oWKDNdLiE= Received: by 10.35.126.7 with SMTP id d7mr2328482pyn; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.107.8 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:40:05 +0200 From: "Niek Dekker" To: dimitrovskim@mt.net.mk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can not decide because of an old notebook. Need Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:40:06 -0000 Dear, Personally, I would omit the last sentence from your help request. That would certainly help you in receiving helpful and friendly replies. As you state it, it sounds a bit rude. > the Installation process? I need HELP NOW !!! Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 13:00:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34D816A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD2543D62 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 31051 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2006 23:00:43 +1000 Received: from 203-214-155-106.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.214.155.106) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 30 Jul 2006 23:00:43 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:00:39 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060730230039.6fda85ab@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux-firefox + proper Java support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:00:48 -0000 hello everyone, I'm running linux-firefox on FBSD 6.1-i386. I also have diablo-jdk installed. When I sym-link (what I think are) the java plugins for moz. into the linux-firefox/plugins folder, i get some errors dure to ABI : LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so [/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid] or LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid] Am I right in assuming that, if I'm using linux-firefox, i should uninstall diablo-jdk and use linux-jdk? Any cons (other than having , sigh, more linux stuff installed installed?) thanks!! Beto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 13:18:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D2016A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brenthostetler@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E090243D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brenthostetler@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so264876pyb for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:18:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HL8aIRwU1Voew4XadaUAR/f1OXjQ6rhQSQWONL/31ILA75Ts6AVTU1SLPAjSPYkRlK5HGCK8yYVmP5acS3s25H/6C7p8fzQgqQq8jOxMtBI7Y6PUnoXaxPPBaOeCjNgIuPRDwfom9lp0L52x6Z64q5W0iYyJ7LG9h5Fx46QC8PA= Received: by 10.35.11.15 with SMTP id o15mr2332474pyi; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.128.2 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:18:44 -0700 From: "Brent Hostetler" To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: gmirror/gconcat: mkdir causes system reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:18:46 -0000 I am having a strange issue. I have a samba server (freebsd) that has been running fine for quite some time no errors to report. I replaced the system drives with fresh install of Freebsd 6.1 and updated to the current security branch. This was same version of freebsd previously on the server. All of the samba shares are on gmirror/gconcat hybrid mount point. '/dev/gconcat/DATA' mounted on /usr/local/smbshares. Now for some uknown reason creating a directories on this directory will immediately cause reboot!! >From shell prompt I can SOMETIMES do the following othertimes it reboots: $ mkdir /usr/local/smbshares/testdir $ mkdir /usr/local/smbshares/test2 However creating directory beneath a directory in 'smbshares' ALLWAYS reboots: $ mkdir /usr/local/smbshares/media/pictures/testdir $ mkdir /usr/local/smbshares/media/dvds/testdir $ mkdir /usr/local/smbshares/media/dvds/all/testdir Reads seem to work fine. I can even create files so far with no problem. Files can be deleted without error. It is just when I try to make a directory that everything comes to a halt. The console error displayed before reboot is too quick to completley write but is something such as: mode 04277 inum=12258433 fs=/usr/local/smbshares panic: ffs_vallov: dup alloc .... snip ... All the providers are destroyed... Cannot dump: No dump device No apparent errors in logs. ----------------------------- Furthe system info. $ uname -a FreeBSD quiet.silent 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Sun Jul 30 05:02:15 PDT 2006 root@quiet.silent:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/ROOT COMPLETE ad0s1 ad2s1 mirror/D2 COMPLETE ad4s1 ad16s1 mirror/D4 COMPLETE ad6s1 ad8s1 mirror/D1 COMPLETE ad10s1 ad12s1 mirror/D3 COMPLETE ad14s1 ad18s1 $ gconcat status Name Status Components concat/DATA UP mirror/D4 mirror/D1 mirror/D2 mirror/D3 $ cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mirror/ROOTb none swap sw 0 0 /dev/mirror/ROOTa / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mirror/ROOTe /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/ROOTf /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/ROOTd /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/concat/DATA /usr/local/smbshares ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/ROOTa 959M 58M 824M 7% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/mirror/ROOTe 4.9G 24K 4.5G 0% /tmp /dev/mirror/ROOTf 98G 8.4G 82G 9% /usr /dev/mirror/ROOTd 4.9G 123M 4.4G 3% /var /dev/concat/DATA 1.2T 794G 338G 70% /usr/local/smbshares $ dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #0: Sun Jul 30 05:02:15 PDT 2006 root@quiet.silent:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC mptable_probe: MP Config Table has bad signature: 4 C ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Unknown CPU Type (1603.65-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400800 real memory = 268369920 (255 MB) avail memory = 253112320 (241 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe8000000-0xe9ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 1.1 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xee080000-0xee080fff irq 20 at device 2.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xee083000-0xee083fff at device 2.1 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xee084000-0xee0840ff irq 21 at device 2.2 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: companion controllers, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pci0: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 8.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 atapci0: port 0x9000-0x9007,0x9400-0x9403,0x9800-0x9807,0x9c00-0x9c03,0xa000-0xa00f mem 0xeb0a0000-0xeb0a3fff irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci1 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 pci1: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) atapci1: port 0xa400-0xa407,0xa800-0xa803,0xac00-0xac07,0xb000-0xb003,0xb400-0xb40f irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci1 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xb800-0xb87f,0xbc00-0xbcff mem 0xeb0a4000-0xeb0a4fff,0xeb080000-0xeb09ffff irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci1 ata6: on atapci2 ata7: on atapci2 ata8: on atapci2 ata9: on atapci2 atapci3: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 9.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci3 ata1: on atapci3 pcib2: at device 12.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 xl0: <3Com 3c920B-EMB Integrated Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xc000-0xc07f mem 0xed000000-0xed00007f irq 20 at device 1.0 on pci2 miibus0: on xl0 acphy0: on miibus0 acphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: Ethernet address: 00:26:54:0b:50:df fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xee086000-0xee0867ff,0xee087000-0xee08703f irq 21 at device 13.0 on pci0 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:40:ca:07:01:03:77:bd fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:40:ca:03:77:bd fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:40:ca:03:77:bd fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pcib3: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xd0000-0xd3fff,0xd4000-0xd67ff,0xd7000-0xd97ff,0xda000-0xdefff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1603648052 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 114473MB at ata0-master UDMA100 GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT created (id=2656088342). GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT: provider ad0s1 detected. ad2: 114473MB at ata1-master UDMA100 GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT: provider ad2s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT: provider ad2s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT: provider ad0s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device ROOT: provider mirror/ROOT launched. ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master UDMA100 ad6: 152627MB at ata3-master UDMA100 ad8: 152627MB at ata4-master UDMA100 ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master UDMA100 ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master SATA300 ad14: 194481MB at ata7-master SATA150 ad16: 476940MB at ata8-master SATA300 ad18: 194481MB at ata9-master SATA150 GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2 created (id=2018613835). GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2: provider ad4s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4 created (id=1140042297). GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4: provider ad6s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4: provider ad8s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4: provider ad8s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4: provider ad6s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D4: provider mirror/D4 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1 created (id=2442871321). GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1: provider ad10s1 detected. GEOM_CONCAT: Device DATA created (id=2233628062). GEOM_CONCAT: Disk mirror/D4 attached to DATA. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1: provider ad12s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1: provider ad12s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1: provider ad10s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D1: provider mirror/D1 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3 created (id=914260241). GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3: provider ad14s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2: provider ad16s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2: provider ad16s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2: provider ad4s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D2: provider mirror/D2 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3: provider ad18s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3: provider ad18s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3: provider ad14s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device D3: provider mirror/D3 launched. GEOM_CONCAT: Disk mirror/D1 attached to DATA. GEOM_CONCAT: Disk mirror/D2 attached to DATA. GEOM_CONCAT: Disk mirror/D3 attached to DATA. GEOM_CONCAT: Device DATA activated. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/ROOTa WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr/local/smbshares was not properly dismounted $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 13:33:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DFF16A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: from web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E59E543D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:33:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93612 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jul 2006 13:33:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xnJWUJs4DaepfYbTa8E4UVu0a+mhT7bpLL5fcq/+nbs5cn1KCGhSHum+nFizs3o6Lnxc+11Zr4Y62hsg9btb/SfD4GesyN/TzmCcTr1S5/c5IHoFBskx83EBOF7+K7IRP8qTXrDWkrV60RMIJbGgfJtIQdpqEhd+Pto5QCmNbLU= ; Message-ID: <20060730133304.93610.qmail@web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.54.79.55] by web30312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:33:04 PDT Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. B. Riddick" To: Brent Hostetler , freebsd-geom@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: gmirror/gconcat: mkdir causes system reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:33:05 -0000 --- Brent Hostetler wrote: > mode 04277 inum=12258433 fs=/usr/local/smbshares > panic: ffs_vallov: dup alloc > I say, did u try a fsck on that file system? It looks more like an file system related problem. I would try an fsck -n ... first (just in case there is a configuration error; e. g.: I had a gstripe and had to re-label it, but I forgot the original stripe size, so that the fsck-run destroyed almost the whole file system). -Arne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 13:42:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C11116A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B485943D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:42:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 20250 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2006 13:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.135.94]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jul 2006 13:42:40 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:42:15 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Only OpenSource" Message-ID: <20060730154215.42a9ca28@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_dNVeLIaCGZqa/CkANZ=8hn."; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to panic FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:42:43 -0000 --Sig_dNVeLIaCGZqa/CkANZ=8hn. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Only OpenSource" wrote: > I am trying to learn kernel debugging and one of the approaches I > have come up with is to introduce situations in the sys code by which > the compiled kernel is buggy > and will panic. >=20 > My query is what are the typical bugs that I can introduce in say by > which the kernel > would panic. If you browse the filed problem reports, you will find more than enough real panics and if you also have a look at the closed ones, you'll find solutions as well. You could also panic your systems with classics like: - kldloading /dev/mem - kldloading kernel modules that aren't in sync with the kernel - mounting a file system through USB and then unplugging the drive without umounting first=20 Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_dNVeLIaCGZqa/CkANZ=8hn. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEzLdOjV8GA4rMKUQRAhfoAJ96t7u/SR6iL2JrZGNC5vEx35Ix5QCgiRft 1zcrBvi7ldtCzNK6VLtFfLc= =CX2p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_dNVeLIaCGZqa/CkANZ=8hn.-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 14:07:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDF716A4DF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E17A43D8B for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:07:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 945 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 00:07:38 +1000 Received: from 203-214-155-106.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (203.214.155.106) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 00:07:38 +1000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:07:34 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: Norberto Meijome Message-ID: <20060731000734.4aa91989@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060730230039.6fda85ab@localhost> References: <20060730230039.6fda85ab@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: linux-firefox + proper Java support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:07:44 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:00:39 +1000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > hello everyone, > I'm running linux-firefox on FBSD 6.1-i386. I also have diablo-jdk installed. > When I sym-link (what I think are) the java plugins for moz. into the > linux-firefox/plugins folder, i get some errors dure to ABI : > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared > library /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so > [/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so: ELF file OS ABI > invalid] > > or > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared > library /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so > [/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: ELF file > OS ABI invalid] > > Am I right in assuming that, if I'm using linux-firefox, i should uninstall > diablo-jdk and use linux-jdk? Any cons (other than having , sigh, more linux > stuff installed installed?) > yeah, simply installing linux-sun-jdk14 solved it ( and symlinking /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so :) B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 14:54:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDBF16A4E1 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB34643D5D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:54:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UEr7TU018479 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:53:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:54:15 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607300954.15235.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: anyone with a p4 HT machine ever see anything from cpu1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:54:19 -0000 i have smp support compiled into my kernel, an still, i never see anything on the HT'd cpu. i realize that most ppl believe that the HT portion of the technology was just a bunch of smoke blown up our butts by intel, but windows sure loves to bounce that extra cpu graph around a lot. below is just a snip of my top window, but as far down as i can stretch my 1280x1024 screen, its all "cpu 0" processes, even while compiling. last pid: 16214; load averages: 0.75, 0.35, 0.17 up 1+00:37:34 09:43:04 114 processes: 2 running, 112 sleeping CPU states: 34.2% user, 0.0% nice, 15.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 50.0% idle Mem: 202M Active, 456M Inact, 232M Wired, 860K Cache, 110M Buf, 97M Free Swap: 983M Total, 983M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 8805 root 1 8 0 35880K 35552K wait 0 0:11 15.64% ruby18 15952 root 1 8 0 1224K 1112K wait 0 0:00 8.00% make 15925 root 1 8 0 1224K 1112K wait 0 0:00 3.59% make 656 jhorne 1 96 0 303M 53372K select 0 8:25 2.69% Xorg 742 jhorne 1 96 0 12632K 8252K select 0 16:42 1.03% gkrellm 1337 jhorne 1 96 0 29092K 21276K select 0 0:02 0.78% kdeinit 732 jhorne 1 96 0 30700K 22904K select 0 1:21 0.10% kdeinit 293 root 1 96 0 1260K 684K select 0 0:24 0.05% moused 752 jhorne 1 96 0 25780K 17952K select 0 7:07 0.00% kdeinit 738 jhorne 4 20 -76 14012K 8132K kserel 0 1:34 0.00% artsd 758 jhorne 1 96 0 31820K 21544K select 0 1:24 0.00% kdeinit 720 jhorne 1 96 0 30724K 22796K select 0 1:13 0.00% kdeinit 695 jhorne 1 96 0 3532K 2012K select 0 0:41 0.00% gam_server 728 jhorne 1 96 0 25596K 17556K select 0 0:12 0.00% kdeinit dmesg shows that freebsd sees the other cpu... [root@athena ~]# dmesg | grep cpu cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! so is the SMP portion of the technology as worthless as 'they' say? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:16:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D511216A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC043D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:16:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7D1U-0004c3-B4; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:16:08 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7D1T-0001KK-Ho; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:16:07 +0100 Message-ID: <44CCCD33.7030608@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:16:03 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <17610.9159.284226.239797@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <57d710000607280902h46a4fe46rc89217cd095273d7@mail.gmail.com> <17610.13989.790418.208137@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <57d710000607280927r4ab0cefaja19a74c612d47896@mail.gmail.com> <44CA3F17.7070507@dial.pipex.com> <17610.50298.915537.351794@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <44CB73C2.2090103@dial.pipex.com> <17611.45489.423357.725084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17611.45489.423357.725084@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11/glx question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:16:10 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: >/usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears >/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glx.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxext.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxint.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxmd.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxproto.h >/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glxtokens.h >/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so > > [rest truncated] So what does pkg_which show for these? It *should* for your system be one of the xorg packages (for me it's nvidia but that's what I have for a graphics card :-)) Also worth double-checking pkg_info to confirm that nvidia-driver is deleted e.g. pkg_info | egrep -i nvidia. Can you run glxgears of glxinfo? If all of that shows up normal, then I'm out of ideas, I'm afraid. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:23:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21BF16A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lionardosebben@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAC943D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lionardosebben@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so417852uge for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=Zm+QssDpXrVnm08PGcyh7QMxPV3LNkE9NqPfsUPsIpgeJYNtQfuCbCIiX1oqM8k1K5Jo4JbiihC2e9deMlO2zszZPN9U0Oxk9DuPv+J7yS6SDKFwVra7wdLGzXuR/qy5J3v+7SzIWwkocRA1IQs2qgN1sVU30huGMfeI0dG5Ir8= Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr295302huc; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.198.6 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:23:28 -0300 From: "Lionardo Sebben" Sender: lionardosebben@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ba7414966497e88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: mail at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:23:31 -0000 Hello friend. I and my friend have decided send this mail to make a single question,.. we wanna know if is possible two single person like me and he get an e-mail at FreeBSD.org? If is possible, the mail accounts are 'ajsouza' and 'lio' ... I know its stupid idea but, if we dont try, we dont get... :) We are owner of KServ, search and development of technology solutions ( www.kserv.com.br). We working with networks for any OS but we like very much BSD, its we choice for we solutions. Thanks very much for your spend time.... ____________________ Lionardo Sebben www.kserv.com.br +55 (54) 3212.4983 +55 (54) 9121.9590 ____________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:26:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091A16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@firebadger.net) Received: from mail.firebadger.net (82-69-4-157.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.4.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1348C43D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:26:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard@firebadger.net) Received: (qmail 17916 invoked by uid 1011); 30 Jul 2006 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.10 by brian.firebadger.net (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.88.1/1449. spamassassin: 3.1.1. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(192.168.1.10):SA:0(-3.8/5.0):. Processed in 0.914599 secs); 30 Jul 2006 15:26:09 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-FIREBADGER-Mail-From: richard@firebadger.net via brian.firebadger.net X-Antivirus-FIREBADGER: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(192.168.1.10):SA:0(-3.8/5.0):. Processed in 0.914599 secs Process 17908) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (richard@firebadger.net@192.168.1.10) by mail.firebadger.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2006 15:26:08 -0000 Message-ID: <44CCCFB0.5010603@firebadger.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:26:40 +0100 From: Richard Collyer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lionardo Sebben , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: mail at FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:26:50 -0000 Lionardo Sebben wrote: > Hello friend. > > I and my friend have decided send this mail to make a single question,.. we > wanna know if is possible two single person like me and he get an e-mail at > FreeBSD.org? > If is possible, the mail accounts are 'ajsouza' and 'lio' ... I know its > stupid idea but, if we dont try, we dont get... :) > > We are owner of KServ, search and development of technology solutions ( > www.kserv.com.br). We working with networks for any OS but we like very > much > BSD, its we choice for we solutions. > > Thanks very much for your spend time.... You have to be a contributor type person (i.e. actually do something for the OS to get a @ freebsd.ogr email address). Regards, Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:27:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B032516A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.lake@voyager.net) Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net (mail1.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BBC43D73 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:27:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven.lake@voyager.net) Received: from [172.16.42.80] (brick.voyager.net [209.153.128.248]) by mail1.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k6UFRTk1068037 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven Lake To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:27:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> Cc: Subject: Problems setting up and properly compiling imap-uw. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:27:33 -0000 Looking for some help in this rather baffling issue. I'm trying to get a n= ew mail server setup with webmail capabilities (via squirrelmail) and I'm h= itting a little snag. Squirrelmail says that the imap server won't accept p= lain text passwords, yet I compiled from source for plaintext using "make -= E WITHOUT_SSL" and I also tried "make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT". Neither w= orked. Squirrelmail still complains saying that the imap server doesn't all= ow plaintext passwords. Any idea what I can do to fix this? Is it a config file I have to change or= something? I don't want nor need to do ssl for logins as this will be loca= ted on a secure lan, so I'd like to avoid all the crazy stuff that comes wi= th doing an SSL setup. Any help is appreciated. =2D-=20 Steven Lake=20 "Duct Tape takes over where skill leaves off"=20 =A0 =A0 =A0-Larry the Cucumber from Veggie Tales.=20 =A0 "I'm not afraid of flying...I'm afraid of being at 35,000 feet and suddenly= *not* flying." =2DKoren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:46:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BB016A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA6C43D4C for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:46:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UFkCiO050421; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:46:14 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44CCD42F.10308@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:45:51 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Lake References: <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> In-Reply-To: <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on overlord.navalradio.cl Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems setting up and properly compiling imap-uw. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:46:27 -0000 Steven Lake wrote: > Looking for some help in this rather baffling issue. I'm trying to get a new mail server setup with webmail capabilities (via squirrelmail) and I'm hitting a little snag. Squirrelmail says that the imap server won't accept plain text passwords, yet I compiled from source for plaintext using "make -E WITHOUT_SSL" and I also tried "make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT". Neither worked. Squirrelmail still complains saying that the imap server doesn't allow plaintext passwords. > > Any idea what I can do to fix this? Is it a config file I have to change or something? I don't want nor need to do ssl for logins as this will be located on a secure lan, so I'd like to avoid all the crazy stuff that comes with doing an SSL setup. Any help is appreciated. > You're forgetting to assign values to your variables. # make -E WITHOUT_SSL=yes or # make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=yes Cheers, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 15:58:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884FA16A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.lake@corecomm.com) Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net (mail2.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBEC43D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:58:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven.lake@corecomm.com) Received: from wks076lnng.corecomm.com (brick.voyager.net [209.153.128.248]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k6UFwBm2003132; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20060730115423.00c05138@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: steven.lake@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:58:02 -0400 To: Mikhail Goriachev , Steven Lake From: Steven Lake In-Reply-To: <44CCD42F.10308@webanoide.org> References: <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0630-4, 07/29/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems setting up and properly compiling imap-uw. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:58:15 -0000 >You're forgetting to assign values to your variables. > > ># make -E WITHOUT_SSL=yes > >or > ># make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=yes Ok, tried that and I got this at compile time: [root@mail imap-uw]# make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=yes ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 => MD5 Checksum OK for imap-2004g.tar.Z. => SHA256 Checksum OK for imap-2004g.tar.Z. ===> Patching for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 ===> imap-uw-2004g_1,1 depends on shared library: c-client4.8 - found ===> Configuring for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 ===> Building for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 Your imap-uw port matches the version of your cclient port. Fine. SSL check passed. We want SSL support, and cclient has it. Good. make sslunix.nopwd +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Building in full compliance with RFC 3501 security + requirements: ++ TLS/SSL encryption is supported ++ Unencrypted plaintext passwords are prohibited +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Followed below here by the typical compile stuff. When I run the config test script I still get this error: ERROR: Your server doesn't allow plaintext logins. Try enabling another authentication mechanism like CRAM-MD5, DIGEST-MD5 or TLS-encryption in the SquirrelMail configuration. Am I still missing something, or didn't the compile go right? ------------------------------- - Steve Lake ------------------------------- Mutton is no fun unless it's still kicking - Hax the Acker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 16:19:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A719416A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E226543D46 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UGJ0V6050509; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:19:02 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44CCDBE0.4080209@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:18:40 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Lake References: <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> <5.2.0.9.2.20060730115423.00c05138@pop.voyager.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20060730115423.00c05138@pop.voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on overlord.navalradio.cl Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Lake Subject: Re: Problems setting up and properly compiling imap-uw. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:19:23 -0000 Steven Lake wrote: >> You're forgetting to assign values to your variables. >> >> >> # make -E WITHOUT_SSL=yes >> >> or >> >> # make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=yes > > Ok, tried that and I got this at compile time: > > [root@mail imap-uw]# make -E WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=yes > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 > => MD5 Checksum OK for imap-2004g.tar.Z. > => SHA256 Checksum OK for imap-2004g.tar.Z. > ===> Patching for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 > ===> imap-uw-2004g_1,1 depends on shared library: c-client4.8 - found > ===> Configuring for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 > ===> Building for imap-uw-2004g_1,1 > Your imap-uw port matches the version of your cclient port. Fine. > SSL check passed. We want SSL support, and cclient has it. Good. > make sslunix.nopwd > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > + Building in full compliance with RFC 3501 security > + requirements: > ++ TLS/SSL encryption is supported > ++ Unencrypted plaintext passwords are prohibited > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Followed below here by the typical compile stuff. > > When I run the config test script I still get this error: > > ERROR: Your server doesn't allow plaintext logins. Try enabling another > authentication mechanism like CRAM-MD5, DIGEST-MD5 or TLS-encryption in the > SquirrelMail configuration. > > Am I still missing something, or didn't the compile go right? My memory is a bit rusty, but you also have to (re)compile cclient[1] with the same knob. If I may ask, out of curiosity. Why imap-uw and not something else that supports maildir format instead of mbox? For instance, courier-imap or dovecot are far better options. Cheers, Mikhail. [1] - /usr/ports/mail/cclient -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 16:25:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CCD16A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.lake@corecomm.com) Received: from mail0.mx.voyager.net (mail0.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA21C43D53 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steven.lake@corecomm.com) Received: from wks076lnng.corecomm.com (brick.voyager.net [209.153.128.248]) by mail0.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k6UGPuub056781; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20060730122433.016f6510@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: steven.lake@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:25:40 -0400 To: Mikhail Goriachev From: Steven Lake In-Reply-To: <44CCDBE0.4080209@webanoide.org> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20060730115423.00c05138@pop.voyager.net> <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> <200607301127.37341.steven.lake@voyager.net> <5.2.0.9.2.20060730115423.00c05138@pop.voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0630-4, 07/29/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Lake Subject: Re: Problems setting up and properly compiling imap-uw. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:25:59 -0000 >If I may ask, out of curiosity. Why imap-uw and not something else that >supports maildir format instead of mbox? For instance, courier-imap or >dovecot are far better options. Well, I don't normally work with Imap, so I was experimenting to find out which client would work best for me. This just happened to be the first one I picked. Courier would have been next. I may still go with that one. Steven Lake Business Support Representative CoreComm Business Services Contact Number: 1-877-557-2724 Direct Line: 1-517-664-8176 "Duct Tape takes over where skill leaves off" - Larry the Cucumber from Veggie Tales. "But I was only trying to improve it!" - Dago - Monk: The Comic Strip (www.monkcomic.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 17:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D42C16A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC8043D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from odilist@sonic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (69-12-157-6.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [69.12.157.6]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k6UH929Q010439 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:09:02 -0700 From: Oliver Iberien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:09:02 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607301009.02215.odilist@sonic.net> Subject: Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:09:05 -0000 After running portsnap this morning: bsd# pkg_version -v > /home/oliver/version.txt "Makefile", line 54: Could not find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue pkg_version: Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/Makefile! I take it that this means that there is something missing from this part of this port? I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html and tried querying the data base (and was confused by the options), and searched the mailing list for the string cups-lpr. Nothing -- I think. Anyhow, I'm happy to do my bit and post this somewhere but don't want to start sending badly formatted or unnecessary bug reports around. Any advice? Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 17:53:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC2716A4E1 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C78143D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([24.202.77.103]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3800CJY9OGX190@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:52:58 -0400 From: Nicolas Blais In-reply-to: <200607301009.02215.odilist@sonic.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200607301353.03919.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart3789403.83RgNBivJr; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200607301009.02215.odilist@sonic.net> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Cc: Oliver Iberien Subject: Re: Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:53:05 -0000 --nextPart3789403.83RgNBivJr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:09, Oliver Iberien wrote: > After running portsnap this morning: > > bsd# pkg_version -v > /home/oliver/version.txt > "Makefile", line 54: Could not > find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > pkg_version: Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/Makefil= e! > > I take it that this means that there is something missing from this part = of > this port? I looked at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.ht= ml > and tried querying the data base (and was confused by the options), and > searched the mailing list for the string cups-lpr. Nothing -- I think. > > Anyhow, I'm happy to do my bit and post this somewhere but don't want to > start sending badly formatted or unnecessary bug reports around. Any > advice? > > Oliver This message is normal. cups-lpr is a port that no longer exists since the= =20 update to 1.2.0 as it has been merged with cups-base. When you update to=20 cups-base 1.2.0_2, you won't get that message.=20 Whether I recommend you update to 1.2.0 is another thing though :) =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #11: Sun Jul 30 12:12:59 EDT 2006 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart3789403.83RgNBivJr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEzPH/4wTBlvcsbJURAjAxAKDBSKEO7rujIIjr7lIBCwpxe/WlxQCfXCtE JSeZ749Pct83h/kkOa/4Tdg= =ATaK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3789403.83RgNBivJr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 18:36:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D25316A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7AF743D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:36:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 20996 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2006 18:36:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=KVnD57hl5lKyPMhT10HhFHSfvimrLmWhyzN7gfxplhdK0iCP74kNDxhNEFFtENmJAi7qer2tF1qPqtHU3d3vjxkbeSKj3+Mw6U2F01VcNcYVBpa5ad/oZV4VRbzmPI+upC4GeMvam9Evc4IiQ3SiqRfnLv5MCiPB9WPK46hEClo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2006 18:36:04 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Jonathan Horne'" , Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:36:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200607300954.15235.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: Acaz6Dws8H5lYfrvSp6fVdyxGqfyogAHktwQ Message-Id: <20060730183605.B7AF743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: anyone with a p4 HT machine ever see anything from cpu1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:36:06 -0000 > just a snip of my top window, but as far down as i can=20 > stretch my 1280x1024 screen, its all "cpu 0" processes, even=20 > while compiling. >=20 > last pid: 16214; load averages: 0.75, 0.35, 0.17 up=20 > 1+00:37:34 =20 > 09:43:04 > 114 processes: 2 running, 112 sleeping > CPU states: 34.2% user, 0.0% nice, 15.4% system, 0.4%=20 > interrupt, 50.0% idle > Mem: 202M Active, 456M Inact, 232M Wired, 860K Cache, 110M=20 > Buf, 97M Free > Swap: 983M Total, 983M Free >=20 > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME =20 > WCPU COMMAND > 8805 root 1 8 0 35880K 35552K wait 0 0:11=20 > 15.64% ruby18 > 15952 root 1 8 0 1224K 1112K wait 0 0:00 =20 > 8.00% make > 15925 root 1 8 0 1224K 1112K wait 0 0:00 =20 > 3.59% make > 656 jhorne 1 96 0 303M 53372K select 0 8:25 =20 > 2.69% Xorg > 742 jhorne 1 96 0 12632K 8252K select 0 16:42 =20 > 1.03% gkrellm > 1337 jhorne 1 96 0 29092K 21276K select 0 0:02 =20 > 0.78% kdeinit > 732 jhorne 1 96 0 30700K 22904K select 0 1:21 =20 > 0.10% kdeinit > 293 root 1 96 0 1260K 684K select 0 0:24 =20 > 0.05% moused > 752 jhorne 1 96 0 25780K 17952K select 0 7:07 =20 > 0.00% kdeinit > 738 jhorne 4 20 -76 14012K 8132K kserel 0 1:34 =20 > 0.00% artsd > 758 jhorne 1 96 0 31820K 21544K select 0 1:24 =20 > 0.00% kdeinit > 720 jhorne 1 96 0 30724K 22796K select 0 1:13 =20 > 0.00% kdeinit > 695 jhorne 1 96 0 3532K 2012K select 0 0:41 =20 > 0.00% gam_server > 728 jhorne 1 96 0 25596K 17556K select 0 0:12 =20 > 0.00% kdeinit >=20 > dmesg shows that freebsd sees the other cpu... >=20 > [root@athena ~]# dmesg | grep cpu > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu0: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > acpi_throttle1: on cpu1 >=20 > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0=20 > (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! >=20 > so is the SMP portion of the technology as worthless as 'they' say? >=20 > thanks, > jonathan FBSD 6.1 and 5.4 had no problems with HT on P4 and Xeon processors. I = also mentioned the machines ran better with HT enabled than being = disabled. do a check to make sure HT is enabled: sysctl -a machdep.hyperthreading_allowed last pid: 20206; load averages: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 = up 6+02:30:20 14:34:40 158 processes: 1 running, 157 sleeping CPU states: 3.4% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 0.2% interrupt, 94.5% = idle Mem: 279M Active, 411M Inact, 263M Wired, 32M Cache, 111M Buf, 9560K = Free Swap: 3000M Total, 202M Used, 2798M Free, 6% Inuse PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU = COMMAND 810 mysql 52 20 0 69304K 17080K kserel 1 12:07 0.00% = mysqld 2205 clamav 4 20 0 22940K 20256K kserel 1 11:44 0.00% clamd 617 mailman 1 8 0 7960K 1416K nanslp 0 1:50 0.00% = python2.4 615 mailman 1 8 0 7968K 1436K nanslp 1 1:48 0.00% = python2.4 618 mailman 1 8 0 7976K 1420K nanslp 1 1:47 0.00% = python2.4 22110 mailnull 1 96 0 5668K 656K select 1 1:46 0.00% = exim-4.62-0 616 mailman 1 8 0 7964K 1396K nanslp 1 1:46 0.00% = python2.4 614 mailman 1 8 0 7960K 1400K nanslp 0 1:45 0.00% = python2.4 619 mailman 1 8 0 8020K 1436K nanslp 0 1:45 0.00% = python2.4 621 mailman 1 8 0 7960K 1408K nanslp 0 1:43 0.00% = python2.4 55933 root 1 96 0 2628K 1412K CPU0 0 1:33 0.00% top 50253 root 1 96 0 22860K 13364K select 0 1:06 0.00% perl 1027 mcsupport 1 96 0 6120K 360K select 1 0:58 0.00% sshd 882 mailnull 1 8 0 6168K 2008K nanslp 0 0:53 0.00% = perl5.8.8 22116 root 1 8 0 2684K 1508K nanslp 1 0:40 0.00% = perl5.8.8 505 nobody 1 20 0 13136K 7068K lockf 0 0:26 0.00% httpd 2193 nobody 1 20 0 27340K 7468K lockf 0 0:24 0.00% httpd 474 root 1 96 0 8664K 1596K select 0 0:23 0.00% httpd 492 nobody 1 20 0 12416K 6388K lockf 1 0:21 0.00% httpd 647 root 1 8 0 9552K 1688K nanslp 0 0:21 0.00% = perl5.8.8 495 nobody 1 20 0 20436K 7308K lockf 1 0:17 0.00% httpd 609 root 1 96 0 9700K 2888K select 1 0:16 0.00% cppop 309 root 1 96 0 1300K 424K select 0 0:15 0.00% = syslogd 578 root 1 8 20 8496K 5480K nanslp 0 0:14 0.00% = perl5.8.8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 18:39:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C806516A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FA843D58 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 99852A69079 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:39:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84.18.29.84 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:39:55 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4833.84.18.29.84.1154284795.squirrel@llca513-a.servidoresdns.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:39:55 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2-0.1.7.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: How to make ADSL modem conections FBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:39:57 -0000 HI all I am a newbie to FreebSD (I have a couple of systems running...) and I would like to know how to make internet connections using an USB ADSL modem, the ones that the telephon companies give the user when they make a ADSL contract. Which are the steps? These modems usually hav only Windows drivers... thnaks in advance Juan Coruña Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 20:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36D416A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B9243D5A for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6UKOra0024360 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:24:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:26:01 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060730183605.B7AF743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20060730183605.B7AF743D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607301526.01455.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: anyone with a p4 HT machine ever see anything from cpu1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:26:05 -0000 On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:36, Tamouh H. wrote: > do a check to make sure HT is enabled: > > sysctl -a machdep.hyperthreading_allowed oops... we have definatly found my problem. [root@athena ~]# sysctl -a machdep.hyperthreading_allowed machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 what do i need to do to get it changed? thanks, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 20:53:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA2B16A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623B343D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:53:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so492577uge for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:53:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=jHZp0HBlagnTpN/a3u408lQeS6+KSpBXNk+uqUkn6Q5aLhX1042ft/b5J6uzMHfJE+0zIbPP7MtS+DFHxCFZgMvQqV4qj7IGlAcN4L3ubuWGB8g8lyu6ax6kkm28ThpXK7k++UuT79WnEpdwF4RWvyFmjvQmBl1+RKeKgyPxiuk= Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr1799557ugl; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:53:48 +0000 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: pf states X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:53:51 -0000 Hello all, Have a little question to which google didn't help a lot. I have pf firewall working great. i installed pftop to see whats going on in real time. I see some state meanings that i would like to know more about, for example no_traffic. I looked in the man pages and what not, but could not find what i was looking for. Thanks in advance. Ivan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 21:26:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8509016A4DE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A20E43D64 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from jeeves.stilyagin.local (63-230-205-170.phnx.qwest.net [63.230.205.170]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k6ULQaMa006465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:26:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by jeeves.stilyagin.local (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6ULQUsF019658; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:26:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:26:30 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Ivan Levchenko Message-ID: <20060730212630.GC3123@jeeves.stilyagin.local> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf states X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:26:46 -0000 On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 08:53:48PM +0000, Ivan Levchenko wrote: > > Have a little question to which google didn't help a lot. > > I have pf firewall working great. i installed pftop to see whats going > on in real time. I see some state meanings that i would like to know > more about, for example no_traffic. > > I looked in the man pages and what not, but could not find what i was > looking for. Pftop assumes you have some knowledge of pf. Pf assumes you have some knowledge of networking. I think you are right that there's nowhere that really explains what these states are in realtion to pf. The STATE column in pftop (or "pfctl -s state") has two sides, one for each endpoint. The state SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC is something I see a lot using symon/symux, where a udp datagram is sent and there is no reply (it's merely accepted). You will also see a lot of ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED and FIN_WAIT_2:FIN_WAIT_2 states. Most of these are not really specific to pf, and will be documented in various references online and in books. Most of the states you will see have to do with TCP connections being build, or as established, or being torn down. Google for Transmission Control Protocol and you should find what you're looking for (and WAY more). -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3E16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1662E43D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A4D291B31 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96538-04 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E18A291B27 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05CB85C646; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id D851B4A70C; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C214A526; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:09:43 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060729020734.P27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Atom Powers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal >> use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing >> and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want >> to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production >> server. >> > > What about sending something as simple as uname -mr? 'k ... >> uname -mr > 6.1-STABLE i386 > > The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base > system that sends something generic every few months. for example. > Send 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very > easy to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable="NO" in rc.conf. > > Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer > could add stats_enable="YES" to rc.conf when someone answers yes. > > The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few > lines of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. > This config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if > needed trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update > the next send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find > a path out it should update the next send date and then die. Why not just have it as part of the monthly_periodic itself ... have it send a copy to a central address as well as to the admin itself, with the message containing a note on how to disable it in /etc/rc.conf, and have it opt_in by default? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E92D16A4E0 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162CE43D4C for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BD5291B30 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93237-07 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5D290C38 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EAB605C61A; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 15B4E4A8B1; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:13:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1473B4A526; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:13:50 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:13:50 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060729021246.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Atom Powers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base > system that sends something generic every few months. for example. Send > 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very easy > to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable="NO" in rc.conf. > > Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer > could add stats_enable="YES" to rc.conf when someone answers yes. > > The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few lines > of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. This > config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if needed > trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update the next > send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find a path out > it should update the next send date and then die. Btw, you'd need to include something else in the mix to differentiate various hosts ... maybe MAC address or something like that? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280D716A4EE for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1646243D53 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52A5291B32 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95643-06 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B0A291B2D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E65EA5C60C; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 1ADFB497EC; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:29:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DC9497C2; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:29:07 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:29:07 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060729022619.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:09 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Yes and no. Not all cvsup servers are under the control of the FreeBSD > project.... but you are right, they could log the release tag and more. > Also don't forget about website stats, mailing list subscriptions, and > ftp servers. None of which actually give you even close to accurate #s, unfortunately ... for instance, website stats ... if you were to look at the ones for freebsd.org, how many would be "Windows Browsers" :( And then we are only talking about desktops, not servers ... As to stuff like CVSup logs ... how many large deployments have one central CVSup 'downloader' while the rest in the org just feed off of that? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2870416A4EF for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE5143D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AE291B33 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95707-04 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFD7290C38 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0AB5D5C672; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:46:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 4CD0E4AA85; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:20:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472044AA6C; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:20:08 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:20:08 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <003f01c6b2cb$c42d5bd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20060729021705.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <003f01c6b2cb$c42d5bd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Atom Powers , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:09 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > You might think this sounds harmless but folks have done this kind of > thing in the past with other products and wreaked havoc on the Internet. > You can start by referencing "dlink ntp fiasco" in google to get an idea > of what can happen to these kinds of well meaning attempts. Let > sleeping dogs lie. 'k, you lost me on how this relates to the fiasco ... I did a quick search on Google for it, and, unless I didn't find the right reference, the 'fiasco' had to do with DLink setting up their software to ping PHKs NTP Server, without getting permissions first, and, thereby, flooding him with NTP requests ... > People just don't realize just how very big the Internet is. That is the problem, yes ... nobody knows how big the FreeBSD community is ... :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE3916A57D for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8C43D49 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BC0290C29 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96548-03 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CD2290C38 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC2A45C5F9; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:20:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id CA6084A8B7; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C684A8B1; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:04:32 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <54BDA592-E798-4A1C-A53E-72C8707B3630@shire.net> Message-ID: <20060729020231.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0A75@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> <54BDA592-E798-4A1C-A53E-72C8707B3630@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , "Born, Clinton" Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:13 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > >> Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to allocate our >> shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period! > > That is not as easy as you make it out to be. WHat one might in the short > term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when support is dropped > and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to replace it with something > else... So making value judgments like tools that are known to be well > supported on FReeBSD for example is part of determining the best tool for the > job Actually, and this brings up another point ... there is nothing that stops VendorX from discontinuing their 'open policy' in 2 years either ... although one would hope that over the years, more would open, not less, it is possible ... Case in point: ICP Vortex *did* provide source drivers for FreeBSD up until FreeBSD 5.x, and then stop'd: http://www.icp-vortex.com/english/download/rz_neu/freebsd/frbsd_e.htm > > Chad > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Amitabh Kant >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM >> To: Nikolas Britton >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for >> recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different >> companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that >> have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID >> cards. >> >> On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: >>> Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are >>> pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work >>> on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's >>> uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor >>> doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open >>> documentation. >>> >> >> I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether >> to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their >> product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our >> money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support >> *BSD. >> >> Amitabh >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B1F16A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F6943D55 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8F3290C29 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89044-09 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE93291B2E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 00A7F5C627; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:30:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id A113F4A5C3; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95C4A5AA; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:01:22 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Darrin Chandler In-Reply-To: <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> Message-ID: <20060729020024.J27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Amitabh Kant , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:39 -0000 On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 04:16:55PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: >> >> And my point is that those not supporting FreeBSD already don't care, >> since as far as they are concerned, their is no market for them to be >> losing .... not buying their products isn't telling them anything they >> didn't already believe ... > > Actually, this is a very valid point. A good approach would be to write > to the vendor and tell them than you had considered their product and it > looks good based on purely technical mertis, but you had to go with a > competitors products due to availability of technical documentation. > > Frankly, the lost sales from FreeBSD will get lost in the noise for a > company like Adaptec. However, a few dozen or a few hundred letters like > above would carry a fair amount of weight. Leave out any attitude or > flames. Just tell them their competitor made money instead of them. > > AMD has played pretty nice with specs, along with price and other things > to be comptetitive. It's worked well for them. Has Intel changed because > of this? You bet. In addition to lowering prices, they've begun to open > specs. Yes! That's a win for everyone, even Intel, and Intel is > beginning to suspect... > > Now, can we get Adaptec or Broadcom to follow suite? Maybe. Some > companies are slow learners. Counting FreeBSD installs and telling them > how many there are won't do nearly as much as 1 out of 1000 FreeBSD > users writing them a letter telling them you bought from their > competitors because of their policies. Bonus points if the competitor > has been nipping at their heels lately. ;) Something like this is what the FreeBSD Foundation should co-ordinate ... not a 'letter writing campaign', but coming up with a well worded, professional form letter that we could use ... I, for one, am a terrible writer :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:24:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2166716A4DD for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A432A43D53 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A0C291B2E for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97750-01 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2AC291B27 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:23:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F6325C679; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:46:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 6549E4A85C; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:12:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5DC4A526; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:12:16 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:12:16 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Xiao-Yong Jin In-Reply-To: <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:24:40 -0000 On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > People like me who only use FreeBSD on the laptop would certainly give > much shorter uptimes. Okay, I just wanna say, it's very strange to a > mobile/desktop user. Again, I wasn't thinking so much about uptimes as the fact that the information is updated regularly ... > We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and > portsnap server, can't we? What does that give? ---- Marc G. 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(127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:34:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:34:04 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> To: User Freebsd Message-id: <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:34:23 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: >> We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and >> portsnap server, can't we? > > What does that give? Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 30 23:52:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FC316A4DA for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A7B743D45 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:52:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 2350 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2006 23:52:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=jV/z7oalPZAAp+BD6/aM/hdRpp2bUYRX5fmwrTXY0JZw2zUkY2ppNwChAD7AsWSvdMZ9COEDLVb0u6TxtOU5u9Z6l5IA/RYDouVBGkZaDdIha5HRiOoCRjsZaxaKpGJLHOnKj9WRI8uIoAUv7dwQHSiqQ72IUsDv3ExOTofPabE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 2006 23:52:05 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Jonathan Horne'" , Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:52:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200607301526.01455.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: Aca0Fq2Dc6SuXC+iT3CcWUNgBB5xXgAHFr4w Message-Id: <20060730235206.7A7B743D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: anyone with a p4 HT machine ever see anything from cpu1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:52:07 -0000 > > On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:36, Tamouh H. wrote: > > do a check to make sure HT is enabled: > > > > sysctl -a machdep.hyperthreading_allowed > > oops... we have definatly found my problem. > > [root@athena ~]# sysctl -a machdep.hyperthreading_allowed > machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 > > what do i need to do to get it changed? > > thanks, > jonathan > do : sysctl -w machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=1 and make sure the line exist in /etc/sysctl.conf machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 00:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C947E16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB8243D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6V0K8eF085590; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:20:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 84722-06-6; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:20:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6V0JoBk085533; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:19:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5, 0, 3, 78) id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:19:50 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:19:49 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F11EEB85@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How big a flashrom for a minimal freebsd install? Thread-Index: AcaycPBXixmbtTUZQe+dhV0VWKxnzwBxLM+w From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Chris T." , Cc: Subject: RE: How big a flashrom for a minimal freebsd install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:20:16 -0000 Try these methods of 'minimising' FreeBSD FWIW - I run 4.11 in 20M of a 32M Compact Flash card with the build described here https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html The box acts as a network health monitor with SNMP and fping utilities running, has a DHCP server running, a GSM modem daemon and has about 100+ of the 'common' base install utilities an board. Like tcpdump, vi, grep, comm, awk, the shells csh and sh .... I have partitioned the CF card to have a 2M configuration partition that is made writeable by rc.shutdown to save a list of my .conf files and .sh files. And I believe that you can run PERL in the 32M space if you want to=20 add it to the build list... If you need 5.x or 6.x try these http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D86 for 5.x http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D125 for 6.x =20 HTH > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chris T. > Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2006 4:07 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: How big a flashrom for a minimal freebsd install? >=20 > I"m toying with the idea of setting up a mini-itx server so I=20 > can move the dns and firewall daemons off of the fileserver=20 > so I can turn it off. I'm thinking I want to get a flashrom=20 > ide adaptor so that I can swap setups on the thing by=20 > swapping cards. I don't see myself using 4GB flash cards for=20 > this. I'd rather get smaller cheaper cards. How big is a=20 > minimal freebsd install? >=20 > Chris >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 00:39:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C5D16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B843D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:39:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6V0dXKV087528; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:39:33 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 86615-08; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:39:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6V0d11L087502; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:39:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5, 0, 3, 78) id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:39:01 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:39:01 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F11EEB89@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How to Change the Time Zone Rules? Thread-Index: AcayWW+rfTMJYTpCTbetbpmjjY7QvwB3taWA From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" , "Martin McCormick" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to Change the Time Zone Rules? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:39:40 -0000 Here is the process we used for the Commonwealth Games (when the=20 end of Daylight saving was stretched for this year..) This does all timezone files even though this procedure below only talks about Australia. NB The file name is now dated... user the appropriate current tzdata file !!! procedure ----------------8<---------------------------------- - save the file (tzdata2005r.tar.gz) into /usr/src/share/zoneinfo then as root # cd /usr/src/share/zoneinfo # tar zxf tzdata2005r.tar.gz # make # make install # cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne /etc/localtime # chmod 600 /etc/localtime Elapsed time - about as fast as you type the commands.=20 This will update _all_ Australian timezone files (and apply various other=20 international updates also) on that host. repeat as necessary on other hosts. !*!*!*! a sanity check=20 # zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Melbourne | grep 2006 before and after the procedure. Before- the results will show Daylight saving ending in March=20 After - the results will show it ending correctly on the 1st Sunday in April. Similar tests can be run for Adelaide, Sydney etc.=20 Also a test with Brisbane returns nothing as they don't=20 use DST rules. Neither does Lindeman but Lord_Howe does .... sigh=20 end procedure ----------------8<---------------------------------- NB you may need to update this file also _before_ doing the above ...=20 (Im not sure, but our net weenie said it was necessary) /usr/share/misc/iso3166 Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer Bytecraft Systems -- "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Carlos A. Carnero Delgado > Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2006 1:20 AM > To: Martin McCormick > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: How to Change the Time Zone Rules? >=20 > Hello, >=20 > On 7/28/06, Martin McCormick wrote: > > My question is, How do I get there from here? >=20 > See zic(8). It's very easy. >=20 > Best regards, > Carlos. > -- > grah windows just crashed again, unstable crap. > Windows isn't unstable, it's just spontaneous. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 00:51:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456BB16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE16A43D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:51:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2006 20:51:16 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LYS94840; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2006 20:51:07 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,196,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="246512983:sNHT22033188" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17613.21296.960604.706390@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:47:44 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.44CD53A4.0001,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Cc: Subject: devfs and changing device permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:51:13 -0000 If I want to permanently change the permissions for a device, I add en entry to /etc/devfs.conf. Right? But that doesn't get picked up until the next time devd is started. If I want to change the permissions right now, can I just go into /dev and use chmod or do I need to fool around with devfs(8)? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 01:04:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B4B16A4E5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66B443D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 339020743 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:04:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 6076 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 01:04:25 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 01:04:25 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44CD5717.1090005@ywave.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:04:23 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060716) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <17613.21296.960604.706390@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17613.21296.960604.706390@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs and changing device permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:04:27 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > If I want to permanently change the permissions for a device, I > add en entry to /etc/devfs.conf. Right? Depends. If the device is present when the system boots, yes. If it shows up later (like a USB drive) then you need to set up some /etc/devfs.rules instead. > But that doesn't get picked up until the next time devd is > started. If I want to change the permissions right now, can I just > go into /dev and use chmod or do I need to fool around with > devfs(8)? > > > Robert Huff devfs.rules are applied when you execute /etc/rc.d/devfs restart, and that may apply to devfs.conf too (never tried it honestly). That said, I've never had problems using chmod for temporary changes on device nodes. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 02:40:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9ED16A4DA; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BD043D58; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:40:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1921290C29; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:39:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29342-04; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:40:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2A5290C20; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:39:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 03761484E4; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:40:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026663D840; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:40:05 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:40:05 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:40:03 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > User Freebsd wrote: >>> We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and >>> portsnap server, can't we? >> >> What does that give? > > Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or > /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems > which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about > 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 > are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the > remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports > tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap > port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base > system). 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 02:43:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA6C16A4DF; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87A543D88; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:42:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F319290C29; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28387-09; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3B6290C20; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id C2D4D3D840; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD880344AB; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:28 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:42:28 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060730234109.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:43:03 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > User Freebsd wrote: >>> We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and >>> portsnap server, can't we? >> >> What does that give? > > Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or > /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems > which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about > 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 > are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the > remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports > tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap > port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base > system). BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only getting "half the picture" if we look at portsnap only? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 03:23:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68E516A5C9 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:23:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADB243D5A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:23:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7ONN-000I9w-Vr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:23:30 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20060730234109.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730234109.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F5C27D0-B538-4C08-901A-848FF1F537EC@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:23:35 -0600 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:23:32 -0000 On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:42 PM, User Freebsd wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > >> User Freebsd wrote: >>>> We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and >>>> portsnap server, can't we? >>> >>> What does that give? >> >> Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or >> /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems >> which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about >> 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 >> are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the >> remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports >> tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap >> port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base >> system). > > BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still > only getting "half the picture" if we look at portsnap only? You are getting some fraction of the picture. We don't use portsnap (and cvsup we do use but not that often), for example. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 03:52:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983B416A4E2 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2141143D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:52:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2006 23:52:47 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LYT49762; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2006 23:52:42 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,196,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="246581547:sNHT21719492" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17613.32187.161497.801167@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:49:15 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44CD5717.1090005@ywave.com> References: <17613.21296.960604.706390@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <44CD5717.1090005@ywave.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.44CD7E2F.002C,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Cc: Subject: Re: devfs and changing device permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:52:44 -0000 Micah writes: > > If I want to permanently change the permissions for a device, I > > add en entry to /etc/devfs.conf. Right? > > Depends. If the device is present when the system boots, yes. In this case, it's lpt0/ > That said, I've never had problems using chmod for temporary > changes on device nodes. And it seems to have worked. Thanks. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 04:15:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D589016A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44ED243D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:15:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50023 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2006 04:15:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AispxiSM1Zr3Lv6A+wb0tFc+BgDmPyf3rFO8w/sGr9RD9+FMkdJacob8olhRj2nKIsq9AyxsNMJ8Qj/bWcTAk+RRZm97jlSbZm15ZEamhrMJ2KlNFiwhozvc21LwaoY0t2iSRm25NWHiFUIbwGTr4tFWp9WKWlxaao8ygeD+4f4= ; Message-ID: <20060731041532.50021.qmail@web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [222.131.156.158] by web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:15:32 PDT Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:15:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: DSA - JCR , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4833.84.18.29.84.1154284795.squirrel@llca513-a.servidoresdns.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to make ADSL modem conections FBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:15:33 -0000 Hi JC, I suggest you have your ADSL modem changed to a non-USB one (an ethernet one instead). Those are much easier to configure and you could connect them directly to your router. I used to have a USB ADSL modem myself but had it changed so I wouldn't have to deal with them (I wasn't sure if they were compatible anyways). I imagine your ISP has an etherenet ADSL modem available. I also think the ethernet modem is faster. -- Bryan --- DSA - JCR wrote: > HI all > > I am a newbie to FreebSD (I have a couple of systems > running...) and I > would like to know how to make internet connections > using an USB ADSL > modem, the ones that the telephon companies give the > user when they make a > ADSL contract. > > Which are the steps? These modems usually hav only > Windows drivers... > > thnaks in advance > > Juan Coruña > Desarrollo de Software Atlantico > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 04:21:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6F916A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (h-64-105-8-34.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B5343D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from [192.168.0.150] ([192.168.0.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6V4TlI6019213 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:29:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Message-ID: <44CD8554.2050703@gregs-garage.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:21:40 -0500 From: Greg Groth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SMTP-AUTH woes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:47 -0000 FreeBSD 6.1 saslauthd version 2.1.22 sendmail version 8.13.6 My problem is that sendmail is not authenticating plain text passwords. From my /etc/mail/hostname.mc file: define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl However when I telnet to the server I find the following: 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 From my /etc/make.conf: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 From my /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf file: pwcheck_method: saslauthd From my /var/log/maillog file: Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: NOQUEUE: connect from root@localhost Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: AUTH: available mech=NTLM LOGIN ANONYMOUS PLAIN GSSAPI OTP DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: k6V481s5004061: Milter: no active filter Everything seems to be in place. SASL is running, and is working fine with the included testing tools, but sendmail does not seem to be accepting plain text logins. This is the same setup I have up and running on a 6.0 box, but it doesn't seem to be working now. Any ideas on what I might have screwed up? TIA Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:00:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCF416A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from mail1.disney.com (mail1.disney.com [204.128.192.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED44E43D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:00:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from imr2.disney.pvt (imr2.disney.pvt [153.7.231.30]) by mail1.disney.com with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:00:11 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com (sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com [153.7.30.143]) by imr2.disney.pvt with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:00:10 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com ([153.7.195.120]) by sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:00:10 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:01:04 -0700 Message-Id: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F07@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Thread-Index: Acazoz8yVhfO0G/8Qf2IK8K6z/EJjgAusvIA From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2006 05:00:10.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[331E5830:01C6B45E] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:00:12 -0000 Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They are on par with Hezbollah. -----Original Message----- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS solutions and FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:01:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0083C16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC8043D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:01:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7Pts-000MQX-Rs; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:01:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F07@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F07@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:01:14 -0600 To: "Born, Clinton" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:01:10 -0000 On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They > are on > par with Hezbollah. You really are out of touch, aren't you. Chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Born, Clinton" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > >> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. >> > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > solutions > and > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > Ted > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:12:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E654016A4E5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from mail2.disney.com (mail2.disney.com [204.128.192.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DA43D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:12:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from imr1.disney.pvt (imr1.disney.pvt [153.7.231.20]) by mail2.disney.com with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:10:47 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com (sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com [153.7.30.142]) by imr1.disney.pvt with ESMTP; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:10:47 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com ([153.7.195.120]) by sm-cala-xgw01b.swna.wdpr.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:10:47 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:11:41 -0700 Message-Id: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Thread-Index: Aca0Xl2z5EiLBl7FT5G5Fqg+F3UjPAAAP7NA From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "Born, Clinton" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2006 05:10:47.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE908F00:01C6B45F] Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:12:35 -0000 Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you mean buy out of touch? -----Original Message----- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM To: Born, Clinton Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They =20 > are on > par with Hezbollah. You really are out of touch, aren't you. Chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Born, Clinton" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > >> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. >> > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > solutions > and > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > Ted > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:15:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053C16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C9F43D6D for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7Q7j-000N03-B1; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:15:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:15:33 -0600 To: "Born, Clinton" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:32 -0000 On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view > when it > comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive > Microsoft > license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you > mean > buy out of touch? The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare between "tech fanatics" and Hezbollah -- only contrast. I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS solution that was the best solution to a given problem. Not that they don't exist, but the negatives of being trapped in a MS proprietary hell forever far outweigh any advantages over the long haul. I have personally seen to m any businesses who get trapped and cannot get out because of the proprietary nature of the data storage (file formats, etc), even when they want to. YMMV. Chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM > To: Born, Clinton > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > >> Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They >> are on >> par with Hezbollah. > > You really are out of touch, aren't you. > > Chad > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM >> To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >> Cc: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Born, Clinton" >> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" >> ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" >> >> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM >> Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> >>> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. >>> >> >> Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS >> solutions >> and >> FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ >> >> You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. >> >> Ted >> > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:22:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1867016A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdtelting-ml@comcast.net) Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net (alnrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.225.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664A843D58 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cdtelting-ml@comcast.net) Received: from mail.local (c-24-126-49-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.126.49.116]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20060731052219b1200q59kfe>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:22:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.63] (Hermes.local [192.168.1.63]) by mail.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EB567 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44CD931B.3030504@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:20:27 -0700 From: "Chris T." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sendiing mail triggers fetchmail... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:22:21 -0000 I'm going to set a cron job to get mail repeatedly. I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to execute a script before or after it sends mail. I'd like to schedule a special fetchmail cron job for say 5 seconds after mail is sent on an account. I'm doing a search on the subject but I obviously don't know the proper search terms yet. And similarly can Cyrus-Imap trigger a script before and or after mail retrieval? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 07:00:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240ED16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52F043D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.50]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3900AJIA5K1J20@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.80]) by pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3900K1JA5K7X80@pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J390097XA5J5PH0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 34931 invoked from network); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:41 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:00:40 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> To: User Freebsd Message-id: <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:57 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: >> Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or >> /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems >> which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about >> 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 >> are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the >> remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports >> tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap >> port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base >> system). > > 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to > get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of > auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? You mean something like http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/stats.html ? > BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only > getting "half the picture" if we look at portsnap only? There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 09:30:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BE516A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru) Received: from relay.ioffe.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469343D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:29:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru) Received: from andrei.ioffe.rssi.ru (andrei.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.227.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay.ioffe.ru (8.13.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k6V9TtGv040277 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:29:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=relay; d=ioffe.ru; c=nofws; q=dns; h=from:reply-to:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent: mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: content-disposition:message-id; b=ATqZEto7rYlJA4F7BXQ8JPWrU72dBGkVX1irQeYuZLsUwpvVA5TSjDBmeTCgE6KO4 xe4l5k1Tn63btgUjI39vXQoXqja6NtgFMnxBafsGCPjRKoGwMUE1ftN1LoUaCv8AcvX YIR+6M6xr66zk+XA42tcjP8EwV/1ze7B7+MdlQbY From: "A.Elizarov" Organization: FTI To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:34:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607311434.50561.a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on localhost X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: from A.Elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:30:00 -0000 Good day! I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user not root. How I can do it? What I must write in /etc/fstab -u user ? With best regards. Andrei Elizarov -- Dr. A.Yu. Elizarov mail: A.Elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 09:37:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBFE16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dante@new-order.org) Received: from s1.net-solution.ro (s1.net-solution.ro [65.98.58.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC0C43D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dante@new-order.org) Received: (qmail 1137 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 12:37:02 +0300 Received: from sport-fabricii.cluj.astral.ro (HELO blackbox) (83.103.128.218) by s1.net-solution.ro with SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 12:37:02 +0300 From: Vasile C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:37:01 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200607311434.50561.a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru> In-Reply-To: <200607311434.50561.a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru> X-Face: "KqMxfwszJ2U*C^#mveejR-5"[wbdHa^(p_.5BEGA; g5?; 2U2!aEs~!5\0="!E@}C&z(=?utf-8?q?pt=0A=09H=2562hPRVY=7D?=>:g*+C{lBg&\b}vfG9ZcUD\GW"K>d24LQUcgLd.6=?+]bW\TQ{CPt1,=?utf-8?q?Yg=23=3FV=0A=09U=3B9e0L=7EzQ0g?=)]aC,AR?7@4SD"CZ@=?utf-8?q?=3F7sgS=5Fg=25kd=5D=7C=25=2E=3F=26=7DNTUt0=7E=261gzNPX=5Df=3D3pT?= =?utf-8?q?P8=5C9yX=0A=09=7C=3DW?=(M MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3592827.t8NlQgKU47"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200607311237.05476.dante@new-order.org> Subject: Re: from A.Elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:37:09 -0000 --nextPart3592827.t8NlQgKU47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 31 July 2006 14:34, A.Elizarov wrote: > Good day! > I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user > not root. > How I can do it? > > What I must write in /etc/fstab -u user ? > > With best regards. > > Andrei Elizarov Try reading the handbook section 9.22 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPY= MOUNT =2D-=20 In case something goes wrong use .. 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Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:46:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE58ACEFCC40B839E1A7AFB7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colin Percival wrote: > There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who > are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Svein Halvor --------------enigE58ACEFCC40B839E1A7AFB7D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFEzdHGhQg3vZGYu0ARArDCAKCTd3btCH6lt6WT32s0ktW1kwPKRACfW/Vr 3VkuLsWJ8dRKKqbL1WED12I= =/NJn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE58ACEFCC40B839E1A7AFB7D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 10:12:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E96B16A4DF for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D5743D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:12:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25083; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:09:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from hermes.sisis.de(193.31.10.38) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma025077; Mon, 31 Jul 06 12:09:03 +0200 Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de (rebelion.Sisis.de [193.31.10.34]) by hermes.sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03312; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:12:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6VABxst013114; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:11:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:11:59 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "A.Elizarov" Message-ID: <20060731101159.GB12918@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <200607311434.50561.a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200607311434.50561.a.elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: from A.Elizarov@mail.ioffe.ru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:12:22 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit El día Monday, July 31, 2006 a las 02:34:50PM +0000, A.Elizarov escribió: > Good day! > I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user > not root. > How I can do it? > > What I must write in /etc/fstab -u user ? I'm doing exactly this with the automount daemon; for details of the configuration and involved files see the attached description; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="automount.txt" $Id: automount.txt,v 1.2 2006/02/27 13:19:34 guru Exp $ for automounting CDROM (and other devices) you configure /etc/amd.conf: [ global ] normalize_hostnames = no print_pid = no restart_mounts = yes auto_dir = /a log_file = /var/log/amd log_options = all #debug_options = all plock = no cache_duration = 6 dismount_interval = 20 selectors_on_default = yes # config.guess picks up "sunos5" and I don't want to edit my maps yet # os = sos5 # if you print_version after setting up "os", it will show it. print_version = no map_type = file search_path = /etc/amdmaps:/usr/lib/amd:/usr/local/AMD/lib browsable_dirs = yes [ /a ] map_name = amd.cdrom [ /u ] map_name = amd.usb /etc/amdmaps/amd.cdrom: cdrom type:=cdfs;fs:=/cdrom;dev:=/dev/acd0;opts:=ro /etc/amdmaps/amd.usb: usb type:=pcfs;fs:=/mnt/usb;dev:=/dev/da0s1;opts:=rw /etc/rc.conf: # # automount daemon rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" amd_enable="YES" amd_flags="" then you just pick-up the directory /a/cdrom with Konqueror and drag and drop the (video) file there to the Xine window, for example. --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 10:14:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D97416A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFA543D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:14:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so153519nzn for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.28.18 with SMTP id b18mr3345292qbb; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c5sm2344847qbc.2006.07.31.03.14.45; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C74BA0B for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:15:02 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <44CD931B.3030504@comcast.net> References: <44CD931B.3030504@comcast.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060731060943.D32C.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: Sendiing mail triggers fetchmail... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:14:47 -0000 Chris T. wrote: > I'm going to set a cron job to get mail repeatedly. > > I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to > execute a script before or after it sends mail. I'd like to schedule a > special fetchmail cron job for say 5 seconds after mail is sent on an > account. I'm doing a search on the subject but I obviously don't know > the proper search terms yet. > > And similarly can Cyrus-Imap trigger a script before and or after mail > retrieval? > > Chris You might want to consider signing up for the Postfix forum: http://www.postfix.org/lists.html The author of Postfix regularly answers questions on that forum and could undoubtedly help you out. -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 10:49:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF3116A4DE; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79D543D45; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:49:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7VKq-0005tr-6H; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:49:20 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7VKp-00013B-Hc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:49:19 +0100 Message-ID: <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:49:19 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin Percival References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:49:23 -0000 Colin Percival wrote: > >There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who >are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. > > Even when I upgrade to 6 I think it unlikely I'll be switching to portsnap for 2 main reasons: 1) I know csvup; I have config files I understand; there is local documentation which I don't want to have to update. This may change at some point if I have time to become familiar with portsnap and its advantages are important enough. 2) As long as portsnap overwrites local changes to the ports tree, it's not for me. If you want to count by port tree download, ignoring cvsup, would, I think be a mistake. It seems to me that nothing done *now*, will ever give you a count of how many FreeBSD systems there are *now* and that there are disadvantages and advantages to all the systems proposed. Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. And then there's NAT'ed systems too :-( Putting something into the base system (e.g. periodic), if off by default will find many people not bothered to turn it on, but if on by default could easily upset people over privacy concerns. Also, you'll miss every system which doesn't upgrade to whatever latest version has the counting. It's clear from reading this list for a while that there are plenty of hosts out there not running the latest version, with good reasons for that. But what percentage, it's impossible to tell without some kind of counting :-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 11:01:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0B316A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBF843D53 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:01:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84455D49; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:01:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jlx4j5AnSHAU; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-117-245.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.117.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5AD5D19; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44CDE2EB.5070007@mac.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:00:59 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chris T." References: <44CD931B.3030504@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <44CD931B.3030504@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendiing mail triggers fetchmail... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:01:11 -0000 Chris T. wrote: > I'm going to set a cron job to get mail repeatedly. > > I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to > execute a script before or after it sends mail. I'd like to schedule a > special fetchmail cron job for say 5 seconds after mail is sent on an > account. I'm doing a search on the subject but I obviously don't know > the proper search terms yet. > > And similarly can Cyrus-Imap trigger a script before and or after mail > retrieval? People normally configure their .forward file to run scripts, but if you want it fired off by the MTA like Postfix, look into integrating procmail with Postfix. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 11:04:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615F616A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADBF43D95 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so720611uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hp6sx6vfsBf4q994SJY3qJAkGEqhNXda4g+oe1/bUHHGE6V6tMf7ZBSVBILI+cKVJTVE3JQOUNmptaa5WmzvmMum3t7RG/WURyImfLapRZLv3fyuYqRIamJmL3cU93h2O2MsvKe31i32mP9fOXgLkBlYkB6g9sfs3Ieji01L6m0= Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr2367030ugm; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:04:23 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: "Darrin Chandler" In-Reply-To: <20060730223501.GE3123@jeeves.stilyagin.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060730212630.GC3123@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060730223501.GE3123@jeeves.stilyagin.local> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf states X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:04:59 -0000 Thanks a lot for the tips, will keep them in mind. I have seen those states on port 53 for udp. p.s. pf works like a charm.... just for the interest, i looked into /etc/rc.firewall and i was just terrified by it. pf looks like a breath of fresh air. On 7/31/06, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:33:15PM +0000, Ivan Levchenko wrote: > > Thanks, i have "some knowledge" of these things (at least i have been > > reading the man pages for pf and altq, and the openbsd pf faq =) .. > > > > like always ... there is still more reading ahead. > > > > thanks. > > The thing that I forgot to mention is that pf tries to keep state for > udp and icmp, even though these are not strictly stateful protocols. So > there are "state" entries that you will not find any information about > if you go read about icmp or udp. > > For instance, if you have a default "block in" rule, but a "pass out > icmp keep state" and you send out a ping (icmp echo-request) then pf > will create a state waiting for the echo reply and let it in. The same > goes for udp, which is often seen on port 53 for DNS. > > It's good that you want to know what is going on and are learning. Too > many people do not. > > -- > Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group > dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ | > -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department levchenko.i@gmail.com ilevchenko@geeksforless.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 12:06:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3616016A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE6343D81 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:06:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6VC4pQA035825 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:04:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:05:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44CD8554.2050703@gregs-garage.com> In-Reply-To: <44CD8554.2050703@gregs-garage.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607310705.59409.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: SMTP-AUTH woes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:06:06 -0000 On Sunday 30 July 2006 23:21, Greg Groth wrote: > FreeBSD 6.1 > saslauthd version 2.1.22 > sendmail version 8.13.6 > > My problem is that sendmail is not authenticating plain text passwords. > > From my /etc/mail/hostname.mc file: > > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl > > However when I telnet to the server I find the following: > > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > > From my /etc/make.conf: > > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 > SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib > SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 > > From my /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf file: > > pwcheck_method: saslauthd > > From my /var/log/maillog file: > > Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: NOQUEUE: connect from root@localhost > Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing > Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: AUTH: available mech=NTLM LOGIN > ANONYMOUS PLAIN GSSAPI OTP DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5, allowed mech=EXTERNAL > GSSAPI KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: k6V481s5004061: Milter: no active > filter > > Everything seems to be in place. SASL is running, and is working fine > with the included testing tools, but sendmail does not seem to be > accepting plain text logins. This is the same setup I have up and > running on a 6.0 box, but it doesn't seem to be working now. Any ideas > on what I might have screwed up? > > TIA > Greg Groth did you buildworld before you recompiled sendmail? ive found that if i buildworld, that before i recompile sendmail (to implement sasl2) that i have to make clean on my /usr/src, or else make will try to use what was already recompiled for sendmail during the buildworld. hth, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 12:47:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C7E16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (h-64-105-8-34.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D9A43D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from [10.10.10.124] (localhost.gregs-garage.com [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6VCtVFn025723; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:55:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Message-ID: <44CDFCB0.6030305@gregs-garage.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:50:56 -0500 From: Greg Groth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <44CD8554.2050703@gregs-garage.com> <200607310705.59409.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200607310705.59409.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP-AUTH woes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:38 -0000 > did you buildworld before you recompiled sendmail? ive found that if i > buildworld, that before i recompile sendmail (to implement sasl2) that i have > to make clean on my /usr/src, or else make will try to use what was already > recompiled for sendmail during the buildworld. > > hth, > jonathan This is a relatively fresh install, and I did update my ports with portsnap / portmanager, then cvsuped src-all and ran buildworld before playing around with this. I did not run make clean before the buildworld process though. I did attempt to rebuild just sendmail after I started having these problems: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make clean make depend make make install Nothing changed though. I was thinking on this a bit further, and although I don't have any of the error messages, I believe I was running into similar issues with Postfix last week. The box in question died on me, I don't have a battery backup and we had a brownout. While fscking the system because of the first brownout, we had a second, which rendered the box useless. I recall moving the unused sasl mechanisms out of /usr/local/lib/sasl2 into a "deactivated" directory (per some how-tos), and ended up with plain being the only mechanism left, and Postfix started giving error messages about no mechanisms available and couldn't seem to find plain text. I figured I screwed something up with Postfix, and went back to sendmail for this install until I had more time to play around with Postfix. I'll try the make clean / buildworld thing tonight to see if that helps, and post back if it doesn't. Best regards, Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 12:57:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD27B16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: from elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com (elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.135.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD0943D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:57:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: from 86-124-116-144.iasi.cablelink.ro ([86.124.116.144]:65204 helo=[10.0.0.5]) by elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G7XKk-000710-K3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:57:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <753FB959-4802-4FDB-8114-48DA404FDB10@unixware.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: ovidiu ene Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:54:29 +0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - unixware.ro X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Fujitsu RX220 Network Card not working (Broadcom BCM5780) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:57:23 -0000 Hi I just bought a Fujitsu Primergy RX220 and network cards are not working. I have FreeBSD 6.1 Any hint what shoud I do? The network cards are based on chipset BCM5780 best regards ovidiu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 13:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0F416A4E2 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpout13-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout13-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [68.178.232.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3185843D7B for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:28:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 25553 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 13:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gem-wbe05.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.37) by smtpout13-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 13:28:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 30780 invoked by uid 99); 31 Jul 2006 13:28:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:28:35 -0700 From: Joshua Lewis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060731062835.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.c52d518029.wbe@email.secureserver.net> User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.4.8 X-Originating-IP: 65.193.202.231 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Wine and FreeBSD how to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:28:41 -0000 I installed wine on my 6.1 system but I don't see a config file anywhere on the system. Has anyone installed and used Wine successfully that could point me towards an easy FreeBSD how to? Or something similar. I told my 7 year old I would load a game for him and wanted to look for an easy how too. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 13:36:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAB916A4EF for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74DF43D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so785268uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:36:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qluq2ypWJvsKCFMQAKXaYp2kFbKL7RPM4UG/F+NmMgN2dy/RezaWMhYdsCAPbJd3d8mH1sDLOOY/D4dYJ7BP07PXBUNjtO82JfbNLqNLHuJHMDxH6Ltv9toNtZG2L8fURBSjyTKpIb/wUc7ml7hHKM78Wy29f6oRlWm6VrTuh48= Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr2477763ugl; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.11 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20607310636j6ddbbdf1m801917bd743ff12c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:36:01 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060731062835.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.c52d518029.wbe@email.secureserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060731062835.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.c52d518029.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Subject: Re: Wine and FreeBSD how to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:36:04 -0000 On 7/31/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > I installed wine on my 6.1 system but I don't see a config file > anywhere on the system. Has anyone installed and used Wine > successfully that could point me towards an easy FreeBSD how to? Or > something similar. I told my 7 year old I would load a game for him > and wanted to look for an easy how too. > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > There is a configuration utility I used, can't remeber the name, but the name should be obvious using this - it'll create the base wine directory and such like that: $ ls /usr/local/bin | grep wine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 14:10:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7274816A4F4 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevbrick@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A4B43D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:10:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kevbrick@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so803477uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VF4/xYlcd7/l+Ve8hy3c3WgZoyTKPH/+QSqgJRolvcJ7VXbYBAkUS4c/pkLQbsSyb8q4uEsTW0fYdCvQSkbV54LceMfTrbzevHRaziiwqnGjIW62P/eTznNDHcemcpjSfyZvmtPh0FCHVdadD8CeS6lLoyXP4g9GiSW+uriCSZc= Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr2518788ugm; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.233.12 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:10:03 +0200 From: "Kevin Brick" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ssh problems ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:10:24 -0000 Hi All, I'm trying to ssh to a remote linux PC using the command: ssh kbX@ssh.abc.org -l kb5 -v doing this presents me with an error below : OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.55] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.55 port 22: Connection refused debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.54] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.54 port 22: Connection refused ssh: connect to host ssh.sanger.ac.uk port 22: Connection refused I've tried also to connect to a nother host (which I know works) with similar results. I'm a bit of a newbie to this whole ssh thing, so I'm not sure if I should check for conflicts on port 22, or something like that ? I've already disabled my local firewall with no luck, but was wondering if the problem could be the overall network firewall blocking my access ? Thanks for any help ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 14:24:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4E116A4E0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BDF43D5A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:24:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6VEOpnI005364; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k6VEOo2h005362; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200607311424.k6VEOo2h005362@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: joao.barros@gmail.com (Joao Barros) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:24:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0607281842i7997f338i49d39f59f0177806@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:24:52 -0000 > > And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone > @Promise to the scsi mailing list? > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html And, did you notice the followup to that message? It directed the poster to submit a PR with 'patch' for it. Unfortunately, the Email address in the message was mangled with an extra set of 'http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html' so I don't know if it got the job done. That annoyance is easy enough to figure out if anyone is of a mind. But it might turn away a sceptic who doesn't _really_ want to be informed. I don't know which category the original poster would be in. ////jerry > > -- > Joao Barros > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 14:28:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125EF16A4E0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D27A43D72 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:28:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 6451 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 14:28:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7404AD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:28:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3bIi09rYg9pV for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:28:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6720D93 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:28:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44CE1394.9000601@mikestammer.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:28:36 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ssh problems ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:28:54 -0000 Kevin Brick wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to ssh to a remote linux PC using the command: > > ssh kbX@ssh.abc.org -l kb5 -v > > doing this presents me with an error below : > > OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug1: Applying options for * > debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.55] port 22. > debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.55 port 22: Connection refused > debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.54] port 22. > debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.54 port 22: Connection refused > ssh: connect to host ssh.sanger.ac.uk port 22: Connection refused > > I've tried also to connect to a nother host (which I know works) with > similar results. I'm a bit of a newbie to this whole ssh thing, so I'm not > sure if I should check for conflicts on port 22, or something like that ? > I've already disabled my local firewall with no luck, but was wondering if > the problem could be the overall network firewall blocking my access ? > > Thanks for any help ... i just sshed to ssh.sanger.ac.uk and it connected just fine, so it looks like you have something going on thats blocking access to the machine in question. Of course I couldnt connect, but i had to add the host to my known hosts and it asked me for a PW, etc. If you are at work, there is most likely a firewall in place blocking outbound access on everything but a very few select ports (port 80, etc). can we get some more details on your setup? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 14:51:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B9A16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net (pih-relay05.plus.net [212.159.14.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180A143D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from [87.112.9.126] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1G7Z71-00026t-J9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE18E8.3080302@jessikat.plus.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:51:20 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building GVim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:51:21 -0000 I'm trying to build GVim for PCBSD 1.2 with the ports system. The build goes fine, but when running GVim it refuses to start the Gui on the grounds that it can't find any fonts. PCBSD is pretty much freebsd 6.1 with KDE 3.5, can anyone advise on what I'm overlooking? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:07:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DCA16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4295043D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:07:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so839794uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:07:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AFdSko6/N0nQS9wFDexCJPJwQvb+pg9Lop209uJVSCnu6rss7Vb4rLEDwz0ipS/WyBpgr1QqvyjqcDjVZNen9+OB3q7uic9wRktRRt7sKJVzu2MlaxjIZBxdjba3+h2pgTmjfCxs1g+u6rR1NFg3kphpfwyH5awwbHK6ulqXGH0= Received: by 10.78.116.19 with SMTP id o19mr553246huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portupgrade ruby package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:07:43 -0000 hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. ---> Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. ===> ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: < http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: < http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes ** Fix the problem and try again. ---> Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) * databases/ruby-bdb (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed any ideas on how to fix this? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:14:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5F316A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED5143D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:14:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from onlyopensource@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so843767uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=L5dOV2ybWKnO+gg0ENKcO4Oj/JJvsj+S/IAct1ZVDz9RWpCLlDC61yq7gGOCuJH3Niu4Q5Lfsg6cenGblFYiTDLrty4CNnldMJKyRRX5E8qp8MwUa7PUQoxhTWXpcI8kpOg1n+H2ec6y7WqGMbIcZrn7kvVnS8GuZf87eEVnfqA= Received: by 10.78.147.19 with SMTP id u19mr554786hud; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.180.9 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:44:00 +0530 From: "Only OpenSource" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: which assembler to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:14:02 -0000 Hello all I want to learn assembly language properly so that I can understand FreeBSD assembly code and also write assembly code. Which assembler do I need to use : as or nasm ? Please help me out. -- oo@@oo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:23:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B8A16A500 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E943D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-71-54-28-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.54.28.212] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1G7Zc6-0006yu-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:23:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:26:27 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "jan gestre" Message-Id: <20060731112627.ae8377a7.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:23:27 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 "jan gestre" wrote: > hi guys, > > portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the > following: > > # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile > # portsdb -Uu > # portupgrade -rR ruby > > but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. > > ---> Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' > ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 > > NOTE: > You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, > but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. > > ===> ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: < > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: < > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 > env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes > ** Fix the problem and try again. > ---> Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite > package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a > requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to > force) > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) > * databases/ruby-bdb (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) > * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed > > any ideas on how to fix this? > > TIA > It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could try: portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby and see if that allows you to update. I use the -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" all the time for updating. HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:35:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C64216A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@erikkristensen.com) Received: from wsi.scrus.com (static-host-66-18-46-88.epbinternet.com [66.18.46.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B750043D66 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:35:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@erikkristensen.com) Received: from wsi.scrus.com (localhost.scrus.com [127.0.0.1]) by wsi.scrus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8FB343EA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsi.scrus.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id D9CFD343E6; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:35:04 -0400 From: Erik Kristensen Message-ID: <87530d2a0b64cbc84fbfd1a19eecbc0d@66.18.46.88> X-Sender: erik@erikkristensen.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:35:14 -0000 Good Afternoon, I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of MySQL. The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that we have running on this server. I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of MySQL. We were running 4.1.x when the problem first appeared so taking the advice of several mailing lists we upgraded MySQL to version 5.0. We first deinstalled mysql, dist cleaned the install, then did a make on the new version of mysql. Even after the upgrade we are still getting several SIGNAL 10s, usually about once an hour. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our production server having issues. We are a small company with limited resources. The server is a dual xeon 2.8ghz dual core processors with 1GB (2x512) of ram. 400GB 7200rpm SATA drive. 80GB 7200rpm SATA drive. Thank you for your time. -Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:37:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8C316A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (justnosweat.net [80.126.252.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCE643D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from justnosweat.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6VHdsE8015970 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:39:54 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Received: from localhost (justins@localhost) by justnosweat.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k6VHdstn015967 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:39:54 GMT (envelope-from justins@justnosweat.net) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:39:54 +0000 (UTC) From: justin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:37:53 -0000 Hello, I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? Ok thanks, Justin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:43:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193B016A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbob@rhondasworld.com) Received: from hagus.bright.net (hagus.bright.net [209.143.0.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B282743D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:43:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbob@rhondasworld.com) Received: from [216.255.15.11] ([216.255.15.11]) by hagus.bright.net (8.13.7/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6VFhMv7018084; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44CE2570.8090806@rhondasworld.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:44:48 -0400 From: Bob User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: justin References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> In-Reply-To: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:43:25 -0000 justin wrote: > > Hello, > > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? > > Ok thanks, > Justin. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > We run CanIT by Roaring Penguin. It is a commercial product that we currently support approx. 84,000 email acocunts on. They do have a free version for small scale operations. CanIT is a combination of spamassassin and mimedefang whith a web interface. You can run mimedefang and spamassassin standalone without the web interface and I believe they are using the GPL license. Later, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 15:50:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACFB16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D3243D58 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so868182uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:50:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uKT8ADrD7QJwlMOoSGchPW4MVKUYCawXDNWq9PgNrMCN3eWno4q99zsWqAAtPSdcRu5FRVq/Ep6J08qtsDt5ETHzx0KzqIJjci10qOUQ/h66Z2QXb1e3o0BmLtTqsCrfO53Aemx0FrOAYiZAsUPxU+XrIzy6WyzsMxjx/qpPmFw= Received: by 10.78.193.5 with SMTP id q5mr578012huf; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:28 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Randy Pratt" , "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060731112627.ae8377a7.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:50:36 -0000 On 7/31/06, jan gestre wrote: > > > > On 7/31/06, Randy Pratt wrote: > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 > > "jan gestre" wrote: > > > > > hi guys, > > > > > > portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the > > > following: > > > > > > # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile > > > # portsdb -Uu > > > # portupgrade -rR ruby > > > > > > but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. > > > > > > ---> Upgrading ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) > > > ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' > > > ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 > > > > > > NOTE: > > > You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, > > > but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. > > > > > > ===> ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > > > Reference: < > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > > > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > > > Reference: < > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > > > > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 > > > env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > ---> Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a > > requisite > > > package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) > > > ---> Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) > > because a > > > requisite package ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k > > to > > > force) > > > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > > > ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) > > > * databases/ruby-bdb ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) > > > * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) > > > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed > > > > > > any ideas on how to fix this? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could > > try: > > portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > and see if that allows you to update. I use the > > -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" all the time for updating. > > > > HTH, > > > > Randy > > > > -- > > > i was able to upgrade the ruby package with the tip you provided but i > keep on getting the vulnerability warning from portaudit, is this ok? or do > i have to run cvsup and portsdb -Uu again to update the database? > i failed to mention this message when i did portsdb -Uu Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status i don't run X but i did install xlib coz it was needed by one of the ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:26:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DCE16A4DA; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2933943D49; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90F0290C37; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05831-01; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446BE291AF8; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id A37E35D625; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2034344AB; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:03 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:26:03 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060731131948.G27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:37 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > User Freebsd wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: >>> Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or >>> /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems >>> which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about >>> 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 >>> are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the >>> remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports >>> tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap >>> port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base >>> system). >> >> 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to >> get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of >> auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? > > You mean something like http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/stats.html ? Not really ... more interested in a simpler graph / #s that denote # of distinct hosts for each version of FreeBSD each month ... depending on the amount of data you can pull out of the logs, getting #s per country, and #s per top level domain (ie. yahoo.com) would be cool too ... Also: "gathering the access logs for portsnap.daemonology.net, portsnap1.freebsd.org, and portsnap2.freebsd.org" Are those the *only* portsnap servers, or are there more? Again, the idea is to get a complete, and as accurate as possible, picture ... > There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who > are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Actually, I'm ashamed to say that I'm still using CVSup also ... going to work on getting myself switched over too ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:27:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486D716A4E0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C78F43D69 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from fl-71-54-28-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net ([71.54.28.212] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1G7ac3-0003EI-00; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:27:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:30:29 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "jan gestre" Message-Id: <20060731123029.91bee857.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20060731112627.ae8377a7.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:37 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:28 +0800 "jan gestre" wrote: > On 7/31/06, jan gestre wrote: > > > > > > > > On 7/31/06, Randy Pratt wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 > > > "jan gestre" wrote: > > > > > > > hi guys, > > > > > > > > portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile > > > > # portsdb -Uu > > > > # portupgrade -rR ruby > > > > > > > > but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. > > > > > > > > ---> Upgrading ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) > > > > ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' > > > > ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 > > > > > > > > NOTE: > > > > You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, > > > > but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. > > > > > > > > ===> ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: > > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > > > > Reference: < > > > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > > > > > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > > > > Reference: < > > > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > > > > > > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 > > > > env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > ---> Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a > > > requisite > > > > package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) > > > > ---> Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) > > > because a > > > > requisite package ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k > > > to > > > > force) > > > > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > > > > ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) > > > > * databases/ruby-bdb ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) > > > > * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) > > > > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed > > > > > > > > any ideas on how to fix this? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could > > > try: > > > portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > > > and see if that allows you to update. I use the > > > -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" all the time for updating. > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > -- > > > > > i was able to upgrade the ruby package with the tip you provided but i > > keep on getting the vulnerability warning from portaudit, is this ok? or do > > i have to run cvsup and portsdb -Uu again to update the database? > > > > i failed to mention this message when i did portsdb -Uu > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gtk+-2.0' found > gnome-config: not found > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status > gnome-config: not found > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gtk+-2.0' found > gnome-config: not found > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status > > i don't run X but i did install xlib coz it was needed by one of the ports. I think you'll need to provide more specific information for anyone to be able to help with this. It seems like there are missing dependencies for "one of the ports". Someone who is familar with that port may be able to assist you in configuring it for non-X use. Sorry I can't help with this aspect of your updating. Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:31:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5867616A4DE; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBE243D64; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77D291AFE; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05340-07; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E62291AF8; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id B07855D69C; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF086344AB; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Message-ID: <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:45 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: >> There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who >> are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. > > Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, > use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or > locally compiled packages. > > I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics > department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we > take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we > have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. > Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`&hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:34:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F012F16A4DF for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from admin.mwci.net (corp.yournetplus.com [162.42.148.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A7743D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from corp.yournetplus.com ([162.42.148.121] verified) by admin.mwci.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 28928261; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:14 +0000 (WET) From: Duane Hill To: Only OpenSource In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060731163132.K13994@cgate.yournetplus.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which assembler to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:18 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Only OpenSource wrote: > Hello all > > I want to learn assembly language properly so that I can understand > FreeBSD assembly code > and also write assembly code. > > Which assembler do I need to use : as or nasm ? > > Please help me out. Check out NASM. Also, here is a link you should find useful: http://asm.sourceforge.net I've actually been dabbling in assembly in FreeBSD for a short bit. I come from an extensive assembly background on Win32. -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:35:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2937016A4E5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4731943D98 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212DD291AFF; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05031-10; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883D1290C37; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 1AFB85D69C; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CDE344AB; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:09 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:34:09 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <9F5C27D0-B538-4C08-901A-848FF1F537EC@shire.net> Message-ID: <20060731133310.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730234109.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <9F5C27D0-B538-4C08-901A-848FF1F537EC@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:35:10 -0000 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:42 PM, User Freebsd wrote: > >> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: >> >>> User Freebsd wrote: >>>>> We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and >>>>> portsnap server, can't we? >>>> >>>> What does that give? >>> >>> Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or >>> /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems >>> which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about >>> 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 >>> are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the >>> remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports >>> tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap >>> port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base >>> system). >> >> BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only >> getting "half the picture" if we look at portsnap only? > > You are getting some fraction of the picture. We don't use portsnap (and > cvsup we do use but not that often), for example. We use cvsup here, daily, to update the ports tree ... and based on someone else's post (alex?), finding out that portsnap overwrites the ports tree, which I'm taking to mean it will remove anything I add to it, makes changing over for me a no-op :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:01:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4E916A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764A543D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7b99-0002TN-2B; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:01:39 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7b96-0000o0-Uz; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:01:36 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE3770.2050601@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:01:36 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730234109.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <9F5C27D0-B538-4C08-901A-848FF1F537EC@shire.net> <20060731133310.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060731133310.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: OT: portsnap [was Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:01:44 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > > We use cvsup here, daily, to update the ports tree ... and based on > someone else's post (alex?), finding out that portsnap overwrites the > ports tree, which I'm taking to mean it will remove anything I add to > it, makes changing over for me a no-op :( Caveat: I don't maintain or use portsnap! The overwrite behaviour was correct last time I checked (several months ago) and was deemed "difficult" to correct because of the way portsnap worked. The 6.1 man page still says: update Update a ports tree extracted using the extract command. You must run this command to apply changes to your ports tree after downloading updates via the fetch or cron commands. Again, note that in the parts of the ports tree which are being updated, any local changes or additions will be removed. Not insurmountable if you religiously keep all changes in some other repository (tar, cvs?) but I personally do not see enough benefit. That would mean to me that counting would have to include cvsup, even if that under-counted. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:09:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA5C16A4DD; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEBF43D5F; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:09:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7bGh-0003qZ-AD; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:09:27 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7bGg-00059n-5z; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:09:26 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE3945.6070900@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:09:25 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:09:32 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > >> Colin Percival wrote: >> >>> There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who >>> are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. >> >> >> Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, >> use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or >> locally compiled packages. >> >> I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics >> department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we >> take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we >> have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. >> Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. > > > Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those > 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... > > How about something as innoculous as: > > fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname > -mr`&hostname=`hostname` > > run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be > properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / > hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, > and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... > > Then have a daily_statistics_enable="YES" in > /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... But this will then only count from the first version(s) of FreeBSD which contain the periodic job. Then every machine running an earlier release would be a ghost. I think the bottom line I see is that whatever you do, you cannot count everything. *If* some kind of counting could be done *now* using portsnap and cvsup servers that are amenable, then you reasonably quickly start getting some kind of count. The some kind of optional periodic job can also be rolled out and many months down the line it would start to produce potentially more reliable (i.e. higher :-)) figures, assuming ppl were amenable to running it. But if you have to wait for 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, and then wait for the majority to adopt it, that's longer than I think you want to wait for some kind of answer. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:17:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F5316A4DF for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from justin@pcmedicsite.com) Received: from k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 756E043D5F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:17:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from justin@pcmedicsite.com) Received: (qmail 21157 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 17:17:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pcmedic-01.prod.phx1.secureserver.net) (68.178.161.49) by k2smtpout03-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.172) with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2006 17:17:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 17088 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2006 17:17:01 -0000 Received: from s0106001346f27c0f.tb.shawcable.net (HELO pcmoperations) (24.79.123.191) by atu966.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2006 17:17:01 -0000 From: "Justin" To: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c6b4c5$19e54290$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aca0xQ5g1BWZ0IKDQeKIqd+pmkL/8g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: RAID Repair X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: justin@pcmedicsite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:17:09 -0000 Greetings, I may be in the wrong place, but I believe the best help to be found for anything technical is this group of people, so here goes: I have a Promise FastTrak S150 TX2 (older PCI SATA/RAID controller), with 2 Maxtor 80GB HDDs connected to it. These HDDs were in a system running XP, but the client lost the RAID configuration (unplugged drives to upgrade memory, plugged back in, XP recognized the drives, but as single drives). The drives were set up as a stripe (RAID 0). I have put this card and drives into my FBSD 6.1 Release system, and of course, BSD recognized the RAID right away, and has it under /dev/ar0. My question is: Is there a way to scan the RAID, and recover the NTFS partition? I've Google'd, but only come up with half results claiming that a "dd" script can be written, reading 64K chunks off of each drive and rebuilding a complete image. I also have a 250GB HDD on a separate controller that is currently blank where I can rebuild this image if needed. If someone with more experience could advise me on the best way to proceed, I'd be most grateful! Regards, Justin P. Michel Technician - PC Medic "Healing your computer ills!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:34:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904CC16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17143D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:34:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so929161uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WjBcCK7VJ5l2vHTvMZWtIZDXZlht2c2xpG+YokTPUPVOsrlfbUwgt7pl5GRd0Z2NtrcGL9ceVNEWNsKuCrStvHWLjwH+XYSoObHUWk0y9JPVFVo5s9WGlRAGIiSS+suWkjLWRjBf4LOCWNfAteGtMQ273WsMg6B45dI1vfo2aGk= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr609282hud; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.151.1 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <463aea570607311034p45513bf2wa556297af609265b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:04:44 +0530 From: Gobbledegeek To: smithi@nimnet.asn.au, ertr1013@student.uu.se, jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu, cswiger@mac.com In-Reply-To: <463aea570607290936p7a2cbfp1584f73063d4b97a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060729095840.50A4A16A576@hub.freebsd.org> <463aea570607290936p7a2cbfp1584f73063d4b97a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using extended partitions.. ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:34:53 -0000 Well Well. .Surprise surprise!! Using extended logical partitions in freebsd is easier than I thought! I ran disklabel -w /dev/ad8s9 , then newfs to create a new ufs2 filesystem, and then added the new ufs partition to /etc/fstab. Likewise with my other logical partitions /dev/ad8s10, ad8s11 etc... which were linux ext3fs earlier. Now I'm richer by 30gb!! Hiyaaa! Whaddayaknow! I also read my xp ntfs logical d: drive, so now I can download in any OS and still access them from fbsd. My linux is gone of course, but who wants linux with the linux ABI on fbsd? As simple as that! I'm on fbsd 6.1-p3 fyi. Rgrds On 7/29/06, Gobbledegeek wrote: > Partition magic looks like the least painful option. Thanks for the tip. > > I'm just gonna try newfs on the logical partitions once and see :) > after I change t ptype to ufs from linux fdisk.... just for > kicks.. > > Rgrds > > On 7/29/06, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > > Message: 15 > > > > > Thanks all. I have XP and linux share the xtended partition, and > > > now I want to say bye bye linux (I need XP for worldwind s/w) . > > > > That's different then. If you want to keep XP (and keep it within that > > extended partition) then you can't delete the extended partition. You > > could use Partition Magic (ono) to delete the linux logical drive, then > > shrink the extended partition to make space for another slice (maximum > > of four), which is what you'll need for another UFS slice. > > > > > Ido not see the extended logical drives containing ext3 from > > > sysinstall that is the problem. > > > > You won't - fdisk sees the four slices only, the 'extended partition' > > being one of those entire, with it's specific type. > > > > What does just 'fdisk' say? (you can do this anytime, it just lists) > > > > The view from linux &| XP fdisk may be useful also. > > > > > The cmdline freebsd fdisk feels like a throw back tp the pdp-11 days :) > > > > Definitely to be used with due care. I generally prefer trusting > > sysinstall to be good with the maths - but keep a beady eye on it too. > > > > > So I'm going to try and mount them from bsd below my home > > > folder, without deleting them first... until I work out exactly how > > > to use the fbsd fdiks cmdline without damaging anything. > > > > You can mount them, readonly anyway, knowing that the first 'logical > > drive' within the 'extended partition' appears as ad0s5, the second as > > ad0s6 etc, assuming ad0 of course. > > > > Cheers, Ian > > > > > > > -- > Rgrds > GobbledeGeek > [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] > -- Rgrds GobbledeGeek [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:49:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B886216A4DD; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E4A43D55; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30317291AF8; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12814-03; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BF2290C37; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 57BEA5CB43; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D3C5C9C4; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:49:24 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <44CE3945.6070900@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <20060731143843.G27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CE3945.6070900@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:49:26 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > But this will then only count from the first version(s) of FreeBSD which > contain the periodic job. Then every machine running an earlier release > would be a ghost. Agreed, but any "active" counting will fail dealing with older machines, regardless ... this is something that should have been implemented / started *ages* ago ... we will never have "# of sales figures" we can market ourselves to vendors based on, but, we also have nothing in the way of "# of deployments" figures ... > I think the bottom line I see is that whatever you do, you cannot count > everything. *If* some kind of counting could be done *now* using > portsnap and cvsup servers that are amenable, then you reasonably > quickly start getting some kind of count. cvsup, i don't believe, will give us any #s, mainly since it doesn't seem to really provide any information: # grep 68851 /var/log/cvsup Apr 29 23:15:08 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: +4338 ?@184.word-to-the-wise.com (turbine.word-to-the-wise.com) [SNAP_16_1h/17.0] Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: =4338 [96Kin+3Kout] pgsql/cvs Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: -4338 [97Kin+3Kout] Finished successfully > The some kind of optional periodic job can also be rolled out and many > months down the line it would start to produce potentially more reliable > (i.e. higher :-)) figures, assuming ppl were amenable to running it. > But if you have to wait for 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, and then wait for > the majority to adopt it, that's longer than I think you want to wait > for some kind of answer. ... true, but if we *never* do anything, we'll never have numbers ... even if there is a 12 month or more adoption curve, that adoption period has to start *somewhere* ... As far as ppl amenable to running it ... if the purpose was properly explained, with periodic reminders on the lists as to what the "Stats Project" was all about, and as long as the information being sent out is fully explain (ie. make sure ppl realize that nothing of a sensitive nature is being sent out), I think adoption would be alot easier ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 17:58:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E90816A4E5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAFB43D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:57:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so941547uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=myS2jtO555VGV9V7EamSqKiY7/SrXEGzRTl4kOtBF4AP0Zd+grsgfrbgekEzuSpz4ZUU5Wx09pzbAKcPQl2DARKfpeLwYzRNzM+HGOC7bcal7ABF2npcsIoqJsTWwh4d1j9dd0U/ttNDXxg+QZ918v+ufkFit8xw/kBMCGxvTTg= Received: by 10.78.116.19 with SMTP id o19mr617444huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:57:56 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:58:01 -0000 hi guys, i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? 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(127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:01:14 +0000 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:01:13 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-id: <44CE4569.1010300@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:01:36 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing > sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, > but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may > easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of > magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? For the portsnap usage statistics, I'm measuring how many days of updates were downloaded per day. In the long run this will be equal to the number of systems using portsnap, whether they update daily or monthly, and whether they have a fixed IP address or a different IP address every time. The only problem I've seen with this method is that it is rather sensitive to holidays: There is a dip in measured portsnap usage in late December, folllowed by a sharp spike in early January before the measured usage returns to normal, since many systems were not being updated over the Christmas holiday, and then suddenly needed to "catch up" in early January (and since they were downloading several weeks of updates, they each looked like several machines). Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 18:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332CE16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E27143D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:10:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4649984A4 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 47076 invoked by uid 88); 31 Jul 2006 20:10:25 +0200 Received: from 37.84-48-193.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.7]) (84.48.193.37) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; man, 31 jul 2006 20:10:22 +0200 Message-ID: <44CE47F0.8020505@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:12:00 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jan gestre References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD051478B6538D48BA5508E0D" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:10:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD051478B6538D48BA5508E0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jan gestre wrote: > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at= > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: >=20 > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=3D"yes" ruby >=20 > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even= > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is = this > normal? any way to fix these? This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains after the forced upgrade. This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your "watch list". That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. Svein Halvor --------------enigD051478B6538D48BA5508E0D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc to get my PGP-key iD8DBQFEzkfwhQg3vZGYu0ARAq+FAJ0U6UGU6g+HANhHYIQ8Zgryty1BwQCePWuQ hDi/qY3e8DWXhs9jietgJcY= =O70F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD051478B6538D48BA5508E0D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 18:23:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3962D16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795F243D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:23:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so954053uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EdngYdlHYE2s0L4uE5FUhl3BKuvvSN4nw73Np32D5liJJreU1BLVdrElr60sPSmz1SB3gYNqTjOBo2P+GVrb/sdYu+HPkqJ0BqFaSIFgtWQ9tBInvGtn4ICshYf+MQeHJOs+eDj6W/3Bd1wRiseIqzHtTk+jmKbxs3Y1M42Uzm8= Received: by 10.78.203.15 with SMTP id a15mr630120hug; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:23:02 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Svein Halvor Halvorsen" In-Reply-To: <44CE47F0.8020505@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44CE47F0.8020505@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:23:04 -0000 On 8/1/06, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > jan gestre wrote: > > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at > > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: > > > > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even > > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is > this > > normal? any way to fix these? > > > This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a > vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try > to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since > portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains > after the forced upgrade. > > This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the > existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said > vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree > is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you > just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. > > You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your "watch > list". That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. > > > i portupgrade the previous version ruby-1.8.4_8,1 to the current version > which is ruby-1.8.4_9,1 and i also saw from the portaudit complaint that > the new version is not anymore affected by the vulnerabilities of the old > version meaning the maintainer already fixed this, however portaudit is > still complaining. and how about the portsdb output? why is it complaining > of stuff i don't have installed? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 18:27:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C51416A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A9943D46 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:27:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from [87.112.6.185] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1G7cTt-0006yC-RD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:27:09 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE4B7E.4030106@jessikat.plus.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:27:10 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <44CE18E8.3080302@jessikat.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <44CE18E8.3080302@jessikat.plus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Building GVim X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:27:13 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > I'm trying to build GVim for PCBSD 1.2 with the ports system. The build > goes fine, but when running GVim it refuses to start the Gui on the > grounds that it can't find any fonts. > > PCBSD is pretty much freebsd 6.1 with KDE 3.5, can anyone advise on what > I'm overlooking? I need to set a default guifont before the gui starts; after getting the gui up I can use its menus to select a better looking font. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 18:36:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2D16A4E2 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5226843D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:36:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so961357uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Prr2+Px5wx+RxD15A1WX8LpZiKazY2iXPcpyP9/CEVxrscPfPK490dV2KyPTxGSBeqWgp1w82gCMpu0dGcoHOyrkU0MpJPEN62DhAfnX/g6q1YxYIEX/ZHbcxBWrlpjLYYsDmOMR+voHEqS18UvTpkfUbbFski2V8/P65sOLKuk= Received: by 10.78.123.4 with SMTP id v4mr639726huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:36:39 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Svein Halvor Halvorsen" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44CE47F0.8020505@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:36:43 -0000 On 8/1/06, jan gestre wrote: > > > > On 8/1/06, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > > jan gestre wrote: > > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at > > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: > > > > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even > > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is > this > > normal? any way to fix these? > > > This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a > vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try > to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since > portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains > after the forced upgrade. > > This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the > existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said > vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree > is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you > just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. > > You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your "watch > list". That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. > > > i portupgrade the previous version ruby-1.8.4_8,1 to the current version > which is ruby-1.8.4_9,1 and i also saw from the portaudit complaint that > the new version is not anymore affected by the vulnerabilities of the old > version meaning the maintainer already fixed this, however portaudit is > still complaining. and how about the portsdb output? why is it complaining > of stuff i don't have installed? > > i update the portaudit database and now it's no longer reporting the > vulnerability :) which brings me back to my second question regarding the > portsdb -Uu output, why is it complaining about those packages which i don't > have installed? > many thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 18:48:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5678A16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8920243D70 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so203382nzn for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.150.19 with SMTP id c19mr4473817qbo; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c5sm2500394qbc.2006.07.31.11.47.55; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:47:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Seibert To: jan gestre In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060731144409.X49297@seibercom.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:48:10 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: > hi guys, > > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: > > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this > normal? any way to fix these? > > and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the > following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: > > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gtk+-2.0' found > gnome-config: not found > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status > gnome-config: not found > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found > gnome-config: not found > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status > > my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries > installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the > xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? > > TIA Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man manual for details. You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: portmanager -u -f -l -y It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing dependencies. Just a thought! -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 19:03:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7816A4E1 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4343D82 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:03:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so345470wra for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:03:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HlTm6zdLecotDFBDGLoscq8zvV2TTJokRTypSakJyd16GujJtCykAt8bim29AzhBqGLgTzBdP6wGg/8aC1b5rKEdK9WP0RZq2IMrTGj9m1jc+BW9lX5aNbCReWI9P/WjLYV8pnIAfUH+6AovYiVRwN2rqWChUG5LOxKOWNdxXlM= Received: by 10.78.123.4 with SMTP id v4mr650263huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:03:33 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Gerard Seibert" In-Reply-To: <20060731144409.X49297@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060731144409.X49297@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:03:44 -0000 On 8/1/06, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: > > > hi guys, > > > > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at > > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: > > > > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even > > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is > this > > normal? any way to fix these? > > > > and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have > the > > following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: > > > > > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > No package 'gtk+-2.0' found > > gnome-config: not found > > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc > ' > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > > "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status > > gnome-config: not found > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found > > gnome-config: not found > > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > > "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status > > > > my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg > libraries > > installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of > the > > xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? > > > > TIA > > Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man > manual for details. yes i did run pkgdb -fu then proceeded with updating but with the same result. You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: > > portmanager -u -f -l -y i'll give this one a try and will post back the results. It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing > dependencies. > > Just a thought! > > -- > Gerard Seibert > gerard@seibercom.net > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 19:39:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F6E16A4E0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from evgeniy@bsdportal.ru) Received: from comtv.ru (vmail.comtv.ru [217.10.32.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90BE43D5C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from evgeniy@bsdportal.ru) X-UCL: actv Received: from av57555.oops (account shumakov [10.2.1.69] verified) by comtv.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 162437598 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:39:16 +0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:38:47 +0400 From: evgeniy@bsdportal.ru X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.1.33) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <433621381.20060731233847@bsdportal.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: I want to join comunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?Q?=D8=F3=EC=E0=EA=EE=E2_=C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9_=C2=E8=EA=F2?=, =?Windows-1251?Q?=EE=F0=EE=E2=E8=F7?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:39:12 -0000 Hello! I am a system administrator and developer. I am using FreeBSD on all of my servers i like it and i modifying and working with it. And I am interested all about it. How can I join to FreeBSD comunity to conctact with the members of comunity. All of them has mail address for example member@freebsd.org I want to know more about what i need to have a membership in it. Sorry for my english I am a Russian but i am trying to type without mistakes. With great pleasure Shumakov Evgeniy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 19:41:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5F016A501 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fireduck@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977D443D73 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fireduck@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so6911nfc for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CnG2B3Vqi6khBmtMgr6arHo/YBPDORp5KoeNzhRJyQKfhIHq1TgT/ntXxrJa/d+Sgbo9e/ORlVT4OVi6BoIbRyikpS8GXBnFFKARsqo/X96Q6i8E71ONrFhWvu3IRd+ZNFryDEXZrDQOyVb/yO7Rx4PUAc+Q+YVxOl5RbtdKkGE= Received: by 10.78.107.8 with SMTP id f8mr12620huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.129.5 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:40:51 -0400 From: "Joseph Gleason" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:41:36 -0000 Is it possible to reach two hosts via two interfaces that are both on the same subnet? Example: em0: 172.20.0.1/16 em1: 172.20.0.2/16 And I want to reach 172.20.0.3 via em0 and 172.20.0.4 via em1. >From 'netstat -nr' I see a line like this: 172.20/14 link#1 UC 0 0 em0 This seems to say that anything on 172.20/14 should be reached on em0. Is it possible to add a rule that says that 172.20.0.4 should be reachable on em1? I only care about the path of outbound packets. I don't care which interface inbound traffic comes on. I am well aware that this is a fairly strange thing to do. My objective is to have a FreeBSD box balance outbound traffic between two NICs, while being able to select from among many routers that could be the default gateway and having the two NICs connect to different switches for fault tolerance. (I would do the fault tolerance via a watchdog script of some sort) If it weren't for the many routers aspect, it would be reasonable to create separate subnets. I need to be able to select from a group of around 10 possible default gateways and some of those routers I do not control so adding a subnet would be trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 19:45:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E2A16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DAA43D7B for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:44:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pergesu@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so126855wxd for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J1cqKwyGPvY6fykzeu66UU7w9dCJViDCfh++HEP0J925frO7kmOhI4LXVq2AJYOpF1v47zv0lIhlss1YydotSilgxEHoBtzCk/Yx9isjVwUH9QG9/Of3y5QUcdq6IvOv21BL8hq3/nxifo0PLgTtdlNBdOpwNsI75uBHBg4bG1A= Received: by 10.78.107.8 with SMTP id f8mr2666huc; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.116.4 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <810a540e0607311244pace7691y1c426d28386df0f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:44:47 -0600 From: "Pat Maddox" To: "jan gestre" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:45:57 -0000 On 7/31/06, jan gestre wrote: > hi guys, > > portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the > following: > > # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile > # portsdb -Uu > # portupgrade -rR ruby > > but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. > > ---> Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' > ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 > > NOTE: > You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, > but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. > > ===> ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: < > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > => ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: < > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html > > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the problem is that even the new Ruby port has the vulnerabilities in it. You won't be able to upgrade until those get patched first. This is the first ML message I've seen about this issue, so I don't have any more info. Pat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 20:27:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9957016A4E6 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5DA43D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6VKR6jH006570; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k6VKR6QZ006569; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200607312027.k6VKR6QZ006569@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: evgeniy@bsdportal.ru (Shumakov Evgeniy) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:27:06 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <433621381.20060731233847@bsdportal.ru> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want to join comunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:27:09 -0000 > > Hello! I am a system administrator and developer. I am using FreeBSD > on all of my servers i like it and i modifying and working with it. > And I am interested all about it. How can I join to FreeBSD comunity > to conctact with the members of comunity. All of them has mail address > for example member@freebsd.org I want to know more about what i need > to have a membership in it. Sorry for my english I am a Russian but i > am trying to type without mistakes. > With great pleasure Shumakov Evgeniy. The first thing to do is read up in the FreeBSD Handbook about how to contribute to the FreeBSD project. At the same time, sign up for at least this (FreeBSD 'questions') and the FreeBSd 'announce' mailing lists and others in which you might have an interest such as FreeBSD bugs and/or FreBSD current. That will put you in the middle of FreeBSD discussions. There is also one in Russian that you can contact at: maillist@opennet.ru You will get an idea of what problems people are having and have an opportunity to suggest ways of correcting them on the Email lists. Then, if you find problems that you can work on, fix them and submit the fixes vix send-pr. If you show yourself as a reliable contributor, you may be asked to be a committer at some later time, etc. Welcome and good luck, ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 21:20:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A4216A501 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDDA43D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:20:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so152192wxd for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:20:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EiGufY4EYcC2lZSbRt3QW6LLZj1j9J7C40unO7gSyH2am1H7ngjonoTHUAkX0be3XkJrcMKUXBmb+CDWrgd8+1g5DXYVacBmOVKBdB1pauMx2jOH67s475FIwwstffgrKmMx+NnF+YsXNQTDjhC6kBuM7aaJsu+yy2OhqmrRpkg= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr29864hud; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:20:34 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Gerard Seibert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060731144409.X49297@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:20:37 -0000 On 8/1/06, jan gestre wrote: > > > > On 8/1/06, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: > > > > > hi guys, > > > > > > i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of > > > vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, > > at > > > first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz > > > portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: > > > > > > # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby > > > > > > whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains > > even > > > though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is > > this > > > normal? any way to fix these? > > > > > > and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i > > have the > > > following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: > > > > > > > > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > > No package 'gtk+-2.0' found > > > gnome-config: not found > > > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search > > path. > > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- > > pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc ' > > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > > > "Makefile", line 24: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > > > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags" returned non-zero status > > > gnome-config: not found > > > Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. > > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' > > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > > No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found > > > gnome-config: not found > > > Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search > > path. > > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- > > pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc ' > > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable > > > No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found > > > "Makefile", line 25: warning: "pkg-config gtk+-2.0 > > > gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs" returned non-zero status > > > > > > my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg > > libraries > > > installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of > > the > > > xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? > > > > > > TIA > > > > Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man > > manual for details. > > > yes i did run pkgdb -fu then proceeded with updating but with the same > result. > > You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: > > > > portmanager -u -f -l -y > > > i'll give this one a try and will post back the results. > > It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing > > dependencies. > > > > Just a thought! > > > > after almost an eternity i finally was able to upgrade all packages via > portmanager, run cvsup then portsdb and with the same end result, i still > get those missing..not install... packages :( > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:01:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE5F16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAC743D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:01:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7fph-0004iX-VC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:01:53 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G7fph-0001Ei-Cm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:01:53 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:01:52 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:01:56 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: > >> > Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing > sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, > but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may > easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of > magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I > don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to > know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, > then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:12:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF57A16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3845443D45 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:12:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1055016uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.84.5 with SMTP id m5mr4195766qbl; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13sm2530027qbq.2006.07.31.15.12.53; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910F6BE54; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:13:11 -0400 From: Gerard To: jan gestre , FreeBSD Questions Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060731181038.4918.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Cc: Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:12:57 -0000 "jan gestre" > > > after almost an eternity i finally was able to upgrade all packages via > > portmanager, run cvsup then portsdb and with the same end result, i still > > get those missing..not install... packages :( It seems to me that you rebuilt your system with portmanager in just a few hours. It would take me a few days to rebuild everything. However, I do have Open Office and the full KDE suite installed. What is the output of the portmanager log. It is in /var/log/portmanager.log. Please post it or send it to me. I want to see what it reports. Ciao! -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:20:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C01C16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5204943D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1057561uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.84.5 with SMTP id m5mr2605013qbl; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c6sm2403914qbc.2006.07.31.15.20.08; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A5BEB3 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:20:26 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> References: <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060731181658.491C.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:20:13 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 > years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another > network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. Yes, my IP changed just once in the last 5 years and that was when a new company bought out my cable service provider. Neither power outages nor turning it off manually has changed the IP address. -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:29:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D16D16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CCC43D5F for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6VMTQMT005740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:29:31 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:29:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> (Chris Whitehouse's message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:01:52 +0100") Message-ID: <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:29:33 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing >> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of >> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple >> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will >> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems >> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of >> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id >> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for >> many home-based, variable IP systems. > > Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 > years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or > two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:47:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4CD16A4E5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D6D43D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:47:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7gYA-00054K-8m; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:50 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G7gY4-0007OF-C8; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:44 +0100 Message-ID: <44CE888F.4050505@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:47:43 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joao Barros References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <70e8236f0607281842i7997f338i49d39f59f0177806@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0607281842i7997f338i49d39f59f0177806@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:47:51 -0000 Joao Barros wrote: > And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone > @Promise to the scsi mailing list? > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html > I wanted to reply about this post but I'm hesitating because I know there are more people who talk than act and I can only talk because I wouldn't know how to act here. Still... Assuming it's genuine Promise are offering to supply a driver for FreeBSD. The responder points them to the send-pr doc (unfortunately with a broken link but that is not my point.) The reply is a typical laconic freebsd reply which would be sufficient for another freebsd user. However this is an offer which could possibly be considered gold dust since it is a hardware manufacturer offering to work with FreeBSD. I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be given active support so that he doesn't just go away because he thinks nobody is particularly interested. Of course maybe someone has already responded off list in which case very sorry for the noise. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 22:58:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD61A16A4E2 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0162B43D95 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:58:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1071203uge for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.95.20 with SMTP id x20mr85663qbl; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4sm755823qba.2006.07.31.15.50.13; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB1EBE54 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:50:31 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> References: <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060731184900.3EC7.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:58:23 -0000 Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip > associated with my laptop, if I move it around. > > A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID > number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. > However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you > think? Unquestionable a privacy problem. Perhaps even illegal in some jurisdictions without the end users knowledge and permission. -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 23:40:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C760B16A4DE for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B44943D49 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:40:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so69048nfc for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GR9xXKwAIABCfEDyYXYCRzvoyOdTjLermXYWNixGX86tsjvV/iWDHC0zL9iSLMKz9gLT+riH6zMJ1bPIKtma/P19WuwqtUJV7/WnzctItWb3RKXqWbdYejbxK9+EysxEitrOzmIA2jMjHFCFtFa5odkrZ92zgM1QnLy1D9Fw+zE= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr66052hud; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:40:41 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: Svein Halvor Halvorsen , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:40:44 -0000 On 7/31/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > > Colin Percival wrote: > >> There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who > >> are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. > > > > Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, > > use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or > > locally compiled packages. > > > > I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics > > department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we > > take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we > > have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. > > Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. > > Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those > 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... > > How about something as innoculous as: > > fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`&hostname=`hostname` > > run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly > formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for > indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, > doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... > DAILY! Are you out of your mind? and we don't need to collect hostnames. Can we just start with something simple like: 'uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org port' in the monthly periodic. On the server side you can make some custom program to collect these and the ip address (not that it's needed). This will work in the mean time: 'nc -klo port >> statistics_data_file' > Then have a daily_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, > so that ppl can opt out of it ... > -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 23:50:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB4B16A4DD for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8854943D4C for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64BF39BD98; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:20:45 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:20:45 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Erik Kristensen Message-ID: <20060731235045.GE48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <87530d2a0b64cbc84fbfd1a19eecbc0d@66.18.46.88> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="B0nZA57HJSoPbsHY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87530d2a0b64cbc84fbfd1a19eecbc0d@66.18.46.88> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:47 -0000 --B0nZA57HJSoPbsHY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, 31 July 2006 at 11:35:04 -0400, Erik Kristensen wrote: > > I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of > my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other > mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of > MySQL. =46rom what you say here, there's no reason to believe that your problem has been mentioned at all. > The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an > hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that > we have running on this server. Signal 10 is SIGBUS (bus error), an error detected by the hardware. The most frequent causes are bugs in the hardware and bugs in the software. The only way to find out what causes the problem is to investigate further. Never make the assumption that any two SIGBUS problems are related. Still, SIGBUS is interesting, because just about every such error in FreeBSD is reported as a SIGSEGV (signal 11). > I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. > > In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, > it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of > MySQL. I can't confirm that at all. I've been chasing a number of very specific problems for some time, and as far as I can tell, there are very few cases where the server crashes. One case that I'm investigating is BUG#12251 (http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=3D12251). If any of this looks familiar to you, please let me know. > Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our > production server having issues. We are a small company with limited > resources. A start would be the documented method to track down crashes: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/debugging-server.html gives details. In particular, the contents of the error log will give you some idea, though probably you'll need a debugger to get a usable backtrace. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --B0nZA57HJSoPbsHY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEzpdVIubykFB6QiMRAl0iAJ9NPIqxNJNBpiODRGXZ5FLdiTIpagCff6br 1Ql6S7N4Mbau/qoPEN9uanE= =hcXb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B0nZA57HJSoPbsHY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 01:51:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E6816A4DD; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@erikkristensen.com) Received: from eastrmmtao02.cox.net (eastrmmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D1543D45; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:51:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from erik@erikkristensen.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [68.229.113.226]) by eastrmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060801015151.GIPU2018.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:51:51 -0400 Message-ID: <44CEB3B0.80603@erikkristensen.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:51:44 -0400 From: Erik Kristensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <87530d2a0b64cbc84fbfd1a19eecbc0d@66.18.46.88> <20060731235045.GE48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20060731235045.GE48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:51:53 -0000 Thanks for the reply. I apologize, I should have been more clear with my first paragraph in my email. I have found several other somewhat similar problems with MySQL on FreeBSD 6.0 but with the MySQL 4.1.x series. Nothing in the Bug report you suggested bears much resemblance at first glance. I originally thought this was a too many connections for the server (physical server) problem, so I dropped the max connections to 20 and still got a signal 10. I also played with other numbers as the max connections but no matter what about once an hour a SIGBUS error would appear. I have enabled --log and --core-file on my mysql server and I am trying to determine if a specific query is causing the problem, however I highly doubt this. Hopefully when it crashes the core file will be able to shed some light on the problem at hand. Just as I was typing I had tail running on the log file and error log files and I caught a signal 10, at the time there was no query that stood out that hadn't been queried previously. If you like I could send the queries that preceded the signal 10, but I doubt they will do any good. There are 4 queries and about 25 quits, in the minute leading up to the crash. I do have a core dump file and I am attempting to gather information, however my knowledge on inspecting core dumps is limited, I am willing to host the file somewhere if you care to look at it to help determine the cause. Many thanks. Regards, -Erik Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2006 at 11:35:04 -0400, Erik Kristensen wrote: >> I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of >> my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other >> mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of >> MySQL. > > From what you say here, there's no reason to believe that your problem > has been mentioned at all. > >> The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an >> hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that >> we have running on this server. > > Signal 10 is SIGBUS (bus error), an error detected by the hardware. > The most frequent causes are bugs in the hardware and bugs in the > software. The only way to find out what causes the problem is to > investigate further. Never make the assumption that any two SIGBUS > problems are related. Still, SIGBUS is interesting, because just > about every such error in FreeBSD is reported as a SIGSEGV (signal > 11). > >> I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. >> >> In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, >> it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of >> MySQL. > > I can't confirm that at all. I've been chasing a number of very > specific problems for some time, and as far as I can tell, there are > very few cases where the server crashes. One case that I'm > investigating is BUG#12251 (http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=12251). > If any of this looks familiar to you, please let me know. > >> Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our >> production server having issues. We are a small company with limited >> resources. > > A start would be the documented method to track down crashes: > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/debugging-server.html gives > details. In particular, the contents of the error log will give you > some idea, though probably you'll need a debugger to get a usable > backtrace. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 02:13:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A0E16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E615143D53 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:13:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so100909nfc for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=muP5rY6lZZP8o8DjAq3P2kFvO9h5Z8/rgXIgfPcLTSJVAQlf5PzGQ4BU0XBOa2rUxAZbJeH75TlT8/s7KmQxwPyTYxgHojoz8m1QL6S38knm+de4UhSVzvwHwHPyByxDZDOD7mELBBvzdsJZZzzBsqMX/WKAzCFZCQTuFwdRY8I= Received: by 10.78.183.8 with SMTP id g8mr105032huf; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:13:39 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <003f01c6b2cb$c42d5bd0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20060729021705.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:13:42 -0000 My calculations are off, I though the monthly periodic was relative to the system install date. Here are the new numbers: Lets say each client sends 20 bytes and their are 10^7 clients for a total of 190.7MB per month. Now... Lets say 50% (10^6.7) of those clients are set to UTC and all of them trigger on the first of the month within 5 minutes of each other (10^6 per minute). This equates to 16706 clients per second. We would need 326KB/s or 2610Kbit/s to handle this load. This is a problem, even half of that is a problem. On 7/29/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 7/29/06, User Freebsd wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > You might think this sounds harmless but folks have done this kind of > > > thing in the past with other products and wreaked havoc on the Internet. > > > You can start by referencing "dlink ntp fiasco" in google to get an idea > > > of what can happen to these kinds of well meaning attempts. Let > > > sleeping dogs lie. > > > > 'k, you lost me on how this relates to the fiasco ... I did a quick search > > on Google for it, and, unless I didn't find the right reference, the > > 'fiasco' had to do with DLink setting up their software to ping PHKs NTP > > Server, without getting permissions first, and, thereby, flooding him with > > NTP requests ... > > > > > People just don't realize just how very big the Internet is. > > > > That is the problem, yes ... nobody knows how big the FreeBSD community is > > ... :) > > > > I have to agree with Marc on this one. The extra load required to send > all of this data is not much: > > Lets say each client sends 20 bytes and their are 10^7 clients for a > total of 190.7MB per month or 6.25MB per day . Now... > Lets say 50% (10^6.7) of those clients are set to UTC and 50% of those > clients (10^6.4) trigger the monthly periodic over a 5 day period > (10^5.7 each day) and all of them phone home within 5 minutes of each > other (10^5 per minute) for a total of 1666.67 clients per second. We > would need 32.6KB/s or 260.4Kbit/s to handle this load spike... I did > the calculations for 10 million clients, but I highly doubt FreeBSD > has 5 million so this is a non issue. > -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 03:17:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B5816A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iain@iaindooley.com) Received: from nitrous.powerband.net.au (nitrous.powerband.net.au [125.62.95.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC4A43D53 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:17:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iain@iaindooley.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nitrous.powerband.net.au with ESMTP id k713Hj6L017058 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:17:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from iain@iaindooley.com) Received: from nitrous.powerband.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nitrous.powerband.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15186-09 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:17:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from LOGGED by nitrous.powerband.net.au with ESMTP id k71382v5016534 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:08:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from iain@iaindooley.com) Received: from piper.iaindooley.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by piper.iaindooley.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k713B2CY085285 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from iain@piper.iaindooley.com) Received: from localhost (iain@localhost) by piper.iaindooley.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) with ESMTP id k713B2OB085282 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from iain@piper.iaindooley.com) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:02 +1000 (EST) From: Iain Dooley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801130538.A68813@piper.iaindooley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at powerband.net.au Subject: openssl and apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:17:03 -0000 hi there, uname -a: FreeBSD cirrus.dfi.net.au 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Jul 9 12:08:32 EST 2006 amac@cirrus.dfi.net.au:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEWKERNEL i3861~ i recently got ssl running with apache. i'm not quite sure how it happened, but at some point after this i could not longer ssh into the box. i went into the data centre and found that when i tried to ssh out of the machine, the error: OpenSSL Version Mismatch appeared on the screen. It was quite important to get this working, and some googling turned up the possibility that this was because there were two versions of openssl installed on the machine. i did: cd /usr/ports/security/openssl make deinstall and i could then ssh in and out of the box. however, now when i request a page using https from this machine the error: [Tue Aug 01 13:55:22 2006] [error] [client 125.62.65.184] Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x03 shows up in my apache logs. if i try: openssl s_client -connect my.host:443 i get: 85161:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.c:478: i can telnet into the host on port 443 successfully. obviously i need to upgrade openssl somehow, but i'm afraid if i try and do it using the ports then i'll break ssh login on the machine again. does anyone have any clues? cheers iain dooley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 03:41:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7E016A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4943D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k713fFx96190; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000001c6b51c$672f1b50$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:12:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:41:23 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" ; "Born, Clinton" Cc: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it > comes to making technology decisions. Then start with yourself. You don't have an objective view. > We've made bad technology work, > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft > license. Yeah right. Maybe if you started discussing specific examples we might believe you, until then your just another parlor windbag. > Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > single system should be viewed with skepticism. And as I asked before, why are you pounding the drum for Microsoft since they evangelize a single system - theirs? > Is this what you mean > buy out of touch? > by, not buy, although freudian slip there since buy is the word for this discussion. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM > To: Born, Clinton > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > > > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They > > are on > > par with Hezbollah. > > You really are out of touch, aren't you. > > Chad > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Born, Clinton" > > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > >> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > >> > > > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > > solutions > > and > > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > > > Ted > > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 03:41:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091E616A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224FD43D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k713fGx96193; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000101c6b51c$678c5680$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F07@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:17:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:41:23 -0000 If your not an MS lacky then answer my original question - you claim that people who only believe there is one way to pound a nail are bad - then proceed to claim Microsoft NT is great - don't you see the disconnect here? You also didn't explain your rediculous claim that it retards technological growth for everyone when people are subjective. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They are on > par with Hezbollah. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Born, Clinton" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > > > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > solutions > and > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > Ted > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 03:41:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4459B16A508 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E0B43D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:41:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k713fGx96196; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000201c6b51c$67f5c6b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "Born, Clinton" References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:22:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:41:28 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" To: "Born, Clinton" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > > > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view > > when it > > comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, > > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive > > Microsoft > > license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > > single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you > > mean > > buy out of touch? > > The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare > between "tech fanatics" and Hezbollah -- only contrast. > > I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are > O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club > but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS > solution that was the best solution to a given problem. I have, plenty of times. MS is the best solution for an application program that won't run on any other platform than Windows. And there are some markets out there where there are no open-source applications for those markets at all. However it is a gigantic stretch for our friend here to claim that Windows is the best tool for the job in these situations, because such a claim gives the impression that there are competitive open source applications that are just not as good. When in reality, there are no open source competitive applications at all. In these situations, Windows isn't the best tool for the job, it's the -only- tool for the job. It is like claiming that your car is the fastest car in the world based on a race that only you entered. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 03:52:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C8716A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327B043D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:52:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k713pxx96290; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001001c6b51d$e724b760$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris Whitehouse" , "Joao Barros" References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <70e8236f0607281842i7997f338i49d39f59f0177806@mail.gmail.com> <44CE888F.4050505@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:52:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:52:05 -0000 > I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be > given active support See a need, fill a need. Since you can clearly see the person wasn't given adequate information, then go ahead and give him the information. Unless people like you and me and the rest of us ordinary users take responsibility for these responses, a lot of them will fall through the cracks since the developers have limited time to answer them. Nobody ever complained about being given too much information. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Whitehouse" To: "Joao Barros" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Joao Barros wrote: > > And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone > > @Promise to the scsi mailing list? > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html > > > > I wanted to reply about this post but I'm hesitating because I know > there are more people who talk than act and I can only talk because I > wouldn't know how to act here. Still... > > Assuming it's genuine Promise are offering to supply a driver for > FreeBSD. The responder points them to the send-pr doc (unfortunately > with a broken link but that is not my point.) The reply is a typical > laconic freebsd reply which would be sufficient for another freebsd > user. However this is an offer which could possibly be considered gold > dust since it is a hardware manufacturer offering to work with FreeBSD. > I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be > given active support so that he doesn't just go away because he thinks > nobody is particularly interested. > > Of course maybe someone has already responded off list in which case > very sorry for the noise. > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 04:14:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5FD16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54DC43D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 335554772 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:14:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 28938 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 04:14:10 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 04:14:10 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:14:08 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: justin References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> In-Reply-To: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:14:12 -0000 justin wrote: > > Hello, > > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? > > Ok thanks, > Justin. > I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an okay job. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 04:39:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95016A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E89C43D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so135583nfc for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:39:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pJtHLgVj9n0i9tywbWlzmwDUNcyhp4rurvUfGZUeck2Mlq8aly6u9NOZLHLksOiKT3JT/XUwIzKTzpQiSEF+nVPGih+9l7347whmArJ65AZL0pwi12duRjN1XDelMrKH6PUgV4I3+IzKL9gzwiqFF7tU9sVnYL4oAmNJU/WjHjs= Received: by 10.78.140.17 with SMTP id n17mr129022hud; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:39:43 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: <000201c6b51c$67f5c6b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> <000201c6b51c$67f5c6b0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Cc: FreeBSD Questions , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "Born, Clinton" Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:39:48 -0000 On 7/31/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > To: "Born, Clinton" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; "Ted Mittelstaedt" > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:15 PM > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > > > > > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view > > > when it > > > comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, > > > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive > > > Microsoft > > > license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > > > single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you > > > mean > > > buy out of touch? > > > > The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare > > between "tech fanatics" and Hezbollah -- only contrast. > > > > I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are > > O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club > > but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS > > solution that was the best solution to a given problem. > > I have, plenty of times. MS is the best solution for an application > program that won't run on any other platform than Windows. No that's called vendor lock-in. I make it a point to buy & recommend software that will run on at least two different platforms. People who can code on multiple platforms are usually more experienced and produce better code and are more willing to port to other platforms and work with you. Here's my decision tree: Multi-platform FOSS, if none then: Multi-platform propriety, if none then: Uni-platform FOSS, if none then: Uni-platform propriety. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 05:37:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2A216A895 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tspivey@pcdesk.net) Received: from pcdesk.net (ns.pcdesk.net [65.100.173.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A6243D60 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:37:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tspivey@pcdesk.net) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:70.68.51.216]) (AUTH: LOGIN tspivey@pcdesk.net) by pcdesk.net with esmtp; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:37:03 -0600 id 00C0B5E7.44CEE87F.0000675C Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:37:19 -0700 From: Tyler Spivey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:37:31 -0000 Hello. I'm interested in moving my server from linux to freeBSD, but have several questions: 1. What is the freebsd equivalent of lvm? I'd like to resize volumes, add/delete volumes, etc. Currently I have my linux root on LVM with ext3 as a filesystem, which I can grow/shrink when I want, if one part runs out of space. Will a shrinkfs command be added to freebsd like growfs is already? 2. Can Ufs handle crashes very well, or is a very long fsck needed like the old ext2 days? 3. is the restriction of NFS-servers only mounting on partition boundaries going to be removed in the future, if it even still exists? Thanks, Tyler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 05:56:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8722D16A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEC743D5A; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:52:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18647291B00; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:52:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73245-08-3; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:52:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A4D291CB2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:11:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id A0D644AA01; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:49:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1504A47F; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:49:27 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:49:27 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:56:56 -0000 I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches ... Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a suitable replacement for the card ... So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server afterwards ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 05:58:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5216A4E2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EC543DDA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95677291B06; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:53:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73503-06-3; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:52:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4D3291CB3; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:11:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 2814B4A6AF; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216314A47F; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:58:38 -0000 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to be: "FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the "GDT" based ICP RAID controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work." Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) ... For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in the way of information concerning the problem ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:04:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379B916A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0829944080 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:58:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED7D291B11 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:58:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74968-01-3 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:58:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD00291C79 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:38:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 295E05C8A2; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:08:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248EC344AB; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:08:52 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:08:52 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Xiao-Yong Jin In-Reply-To: <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:04:54 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Chris Whitehouse writes: > >> Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >>> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing >>> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of >>> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple >>> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will >>> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems >>> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of >>> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id >>> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for >>> many home-based, variable IP systems. >> >> Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 >> years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or >> two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. >> > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip > associated with my laptop, if I move it around. > > A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID > number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. > However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you > think? How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or software? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:07:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D443F16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582F143D6B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5E1291C53 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:01:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74968-01-7 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:00:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B096291C7A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:38:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id AFC7A5C9F7; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:09:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3675C9F5 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:09:25 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:09:25 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060731184900.3EC7.GERARD@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20060731220905.P27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731184900.3EC7.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:07:16 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Gerard Seibert wrote: > Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > >> But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip >> associated with my laptop, if I move it around. >> >> A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID >> number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. >> However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you >> think? > > Unquestionable a privacy problem. Perhaps even illegal in some > jurisdictions without the end users knowledge and permission. 'k, I'm confused on this one ... could you elaborate on why this is a privacy issue? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:09:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE6416A4E8; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8848843DEA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7nNe-0003VY-TN; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:05:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7387FC94-54C8-48F4-95A7-BB3F9DC755A4@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:05:26 -0600 To: User Freebsd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:09:16 -0000 On Jul 31, 2006, at 7:49 PM, User Freebsd wrote: > > I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as > most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless > headaches ... > > Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported > platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure > out a suitable replacement for the card ... > > So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote > server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same > slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat > the server afterwards ... You may want to consider the LSI MegaRAID cards... There are various ones. Do you need the low profile format? Look at the 320-1lp for that otehrwise the 320-1 or 320-2x They have freebsd drivers and a command line management app. I am looking at this to replace an adaptec 2200s eventually (for different reasons than the OP). I have not used the SCSI LSI MegaRAID cards through I have some of their SATA RAID cards. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:14:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C51916A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20DC43E12 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k716Dgx97110; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002901c6b531$b4013200$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "User Freebsd" , "Xiao-Yong Jin" References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org><87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com><44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk><871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:14:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:14:57 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "User Freebsd" To: "Xiao-Yong Jin" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > > > Chris Whitehouse writes: > > > >> Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >>> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing > >>> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of > >>> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple > >>> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will > >>> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems > >>> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of > >>> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id > >>> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for > >>> many home-based, variable IP systems. > >> > >> Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 > >> years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or > >> two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. > >> > > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip > > associated with my laptop, if I move it around. > > > > A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID > > number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. > > However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you > > think? > > How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or > software? > All Sparc processors have serial numbers, always had. Sun's compiler and some other programs of theirs are serialized and when you buy them you have to send in the cpu serial number to Sun who generates a key that will only allow the compiler to run on that system. If you move the compiler you have to get another key and certify to Sun with a legal document that you will not run it on the old system, etc. At least that was how it worked last I dealt with that about 7 years ago. I believe modern pentiums are also serialized. There's ways to do a unique ID nowadays. None of them are portable and so these methods are frowned on. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:22:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3252B16A4E2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59543D67 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:22:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7ne2-0004Lk-JU; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:22:22 -0600 In-Reply-To: <002901c6b531$b4013200$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org><87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com><44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk><871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <002901c6b531$b4013200$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3B884B70-CCF2-4131-B65B-E022254FC965@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:22:22 -0600 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:22:24 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:14 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Sun's compiler and > some other > programs of theirs are serialized and when you buy them you have to > send in > the > cpu serial number to Sun who generates a key that will only allow the > compiler > to run on that system. If you move the compiler you have to get > another key > and > certify to Sun with a legal document that you will not run it on > the old > system, etc. > > At least that was how it worked last I dealt with that about 7 > years ago. That aspect has probably changed now since Solaris 10 is free as are the dev tools... (Sun Studio) They have open sourced solaris and some of the more interesting things are supposedly being ported to FreeBSD. Dtrace (we have had announcements of that here) and also ZFS! (which is way cool -- I am implementing a Solaris ZFS based server to do nfs file system sharing to my FreeBSD machines). Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:50:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AF316A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from test@ftp2.footstar.com) Received: from webmail.footstar.com (webmail.footstar.com [205.142.148.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1A2243D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:50:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from test@ftp2.footstar.com) Received: from EMF2.footstar.com (unknown [205.142.148.66]) by webmail.footstar.com (Tumbleweed MailGate Edge) with ESMTP id 21112DC08A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 02:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 205.142.150.37 by EMF2.footstar.com with SMTP (SMTP Relay); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:54:51 -0400 X-Server-Uuid: 8408F0E9-478A-419A-BAA1-F7B15F8E9E98 Received: (from test@localhost) by ftp2.footstar.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id k717u6E11638 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:56:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:56:06 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <1154418966.17197.qmail@etradefinancial.com> From: "E*TRADE SECURITIES LLC" X-MMS-Spam-Confidence: high X-MMS-Content-Rating: broadcast X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2006080101_4.00.0003 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: SEV=0.9; DFV=A2006080101; IFV=NA; RPD=4.00.0003; RPDID=303030312E30413031303230312E34344345433443362E303031422D422D6D39527830382B492F34434F3135547272466B3063513D3D; ENG=RPD; TS=20060801065453; CAT=BROADCAST; CON=HIGH; X-WSS-ID: 68D025310A8842820-01-01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: E*TRADE Securities Notice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:50:51 -0000 [www.etrade.co=] [=] [images=] Please note that Your E*TRADE FINANCIAL account = is about to expire. 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References 1. 3D"http://etradefinancial.diorgen.com/e/t/user/login" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 06:51:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5253716A4E0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB5D43D64 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327332E036; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:51:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:51:23 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tyler Spivey References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> In-Reply-To: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 06:51:35 -0000 Tyler Spivey wrote: > Hello. I'm interested in moving my server from linux to freeBSD, but > have several questions: > 2. Can Ufs handle crashes very well, or is a very long fsck needed like > the old ext2 days? Usually fsck will run in the background after boot has finished. On very hard crashes you may have to boot into single user to fix it. To avoid this, make sure that the base system is on a separate partition, you may even want to mount it read-only for security. (I think these are good advises on any system). > 3. is the restriction of NFS-servers only mounting on partition > boundaries going to be removed in the future, if it even still exists? You can export an entire partition, with -alldirs option you can mount any sub directory with the permissions for that partition, eg: /home -alldirs -network 192.168.0.0/24 You can also export directories individually, but there are some restrictions, exporting two directories on the same filesystem to the same host must have the same permissions. Eg: /var/diskless/FreeBSD -ro -maproot=root:wheel -network 192.168.0.0/24 /var/diskless/clt-1/var -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 /var/diskless/clt-1/tmp -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 This works fine despite the first being -ro and the others -rw, because the first line exports to a network and not the host, and the second two have same permissions and mappings. But /var/diskless/FreeBSD -ro -maproot=root:wheel -network 192.168.0.0/24 /var/diskless/clt-1/var -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 /var/diskless/clt-1/tmp 192.168.0.1 doesn't, because of the missing maproot in the last export line. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 07:12:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1EC16A4E0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3337843D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:12:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.6+UW06.06/8.13.6+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k717CM2I013680 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:12:22 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k717CMZU003183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:12:22 -0700 Message-ID: <44CEFEDF.4060503@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:12:31 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org><87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com><44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk><871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <002901c6b531$b4013200$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <002901c6b531$b4013200$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.7.31.235433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_REFNUM 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_7 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:12:23 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "User Freebsd" > To: "Xiao-Yong Jin" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out > there? > > > >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: >> >> >>> Chris Whitehouse writes: >>> >>> >>>> Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >>>> >>>>> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing >>>>> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of >>>>> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple >>>>> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will >>>>> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems >>>>> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of >>>>> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id >>>>> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for >>>>> many home-based, variable IP systems. >>>>> >>>> Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 >>>> years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or >>>> two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. >>>> >>>> >>> But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip >>> associated with my laptop, if I move it around. >>> >>> A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID >>> number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. >>> However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you >>> think? >>> >> How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc >> thing, or >> software? >> >> > > All Sparc processors have serial numbers, always had. Sun's compiler and > some other > programs of theirs are serialized and when you buy them you have to > send in > the > cpu serial number to Sun who generates a key that will only allow the > compiler > to run on that system. If you move the compiler you have to get > another key > and > certify to Sun with a legal document that you will not run it on the old > system, etc. > > At least that was how it worked last I dealt with that about 7 years ago. > > I believe modern pentiums are also serialized. There's ways to do a > unique > ID > nowadays. None of them are portable and so these methods are frowned on. > > Ted CPUID's on Intel processors can be found using something similar to the program I made below... /** * * Author: Garrett Cooper * File: cpuid_test.cpp * * Version: 0.1 * Date: 2006.03.24 * * This program is a simple C one that takes a IA32 logical * processor [think real processor, core, or hyperthreading capable processor's * virtual processor(s)] and prints out its ID, via the embedded IA32 cpuid * asm instruction. * * Reference: http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/43851.htm?prn=y * * Note: If you compile using Cygwin, use this command to compile in order * to use a DOS prompt to execute the file: * * gcc -mno-cygwin -o cpuid_test.exe cpuid_test.c * * This code will no work in MSVS I believe, because it follows GCC's * convention for inline ASM code. * * * Version: 0.2 * Date: 2006.03.27 * * Inline C++ function was added so then the program wouldn't just print out the * compiling machine's cpuid when I distributed the binary. * * The proper command for compiling now is: * * gcc -mno-cygwin -o cpuid_test.exe cpuid_test.cpp * */ #include #include inline void print_cpuid() { unsigned int id = 0; asm( "mov $1, %%eax;" "cpuid;" "mov %%ebx, %0;" : "=r" (id) ); printf("cpuid=%4xh\n",id); } int main() { print_cpuid(); system("pause"); return 0; } You should be able to figure out the ID of your processor if it's a P3 or newer IIRC. This was part of the whole snafu with Intel and having people's serial numbers be transmitted online, I think. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 07:32:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A7416A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandanh@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45FB43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:32:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chandanh@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1231730uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:32:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:organization:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=H5ZV1Aa33xZzgEhzUfypGzDirOTgTqbHzjpMRiGUoqzhO+O4tRW9FX8CItsyCw6PF3LGn1a4Z7QNaVf8ZvHnCAzSqxu1kumKNrPKmC+dGxEGZgn4FdZcG229zrTJ2RSq/3+V6Qpp+XBOk9Ml5h+RDk+2IQJbSiCwxoCh5GBEDEI= Received: by 10.65.126.4 with SMTP id d4mr666515qbn; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [125.22.42.182]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r15sm4678536nza.2006.08.01.00.32.46; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44CF05A7.902@ieee.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:11:27 +0530 Organization: TISRA User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20060226) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chandan Haldar Subject: Firefox 1.5.0.5 port build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:32:49 -0000 Having another crack at building firefox 1.5 on FreeBSD 6.0 Release... Anyone knows what this cryptic error could be due to? Thanks in advance. Chandan ===> Extracting for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 => Checksum OK for firefox-1.5.0.5-source.tar.bz2. ===> firefox-1.5.0.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Patching for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 ===> firefox-1.5.0.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 -e: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /home/newports/www/firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 07:52:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E4316A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782C243D46; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:52:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate2.punkt.de with ESMTP id k717q21E020128; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k717px6G066575; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:51:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k717pxWd066574; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:51:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:51:59 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:52:04 -0000 Hi! On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: > Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported > platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a > suitable replacement for the card ... That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have to say about the GDT controllers. We run typo3.org on four heavily loaded systems with these cards. We did not update to 6.x yet, because of fear of the mythical NFS deadlocks. Now things seem to get even worse. > So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote > server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot > that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server > afterwards ... We just ordered this box here: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/storage/ssr212cc/ It contains two Intel SRCS28X RAID Controllers, that are supposedly supported by the amr driver and the Linux Megamgr utility. The system should arrive in about two weeks - if you're interested, I'll keep you updated. Regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:01:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4709516A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9283243D7E; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:00:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from circe (circe.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.36]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3B00I947JADS@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:35 +0200 (MEST) Received: from talos.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([134.130.3.22]) by circe (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: from bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (bigspace.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.2]) by smarthost.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.7/8.13.1/1) with ESMTP id k717xXlP030753; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:33 +0200 Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.181.92]) by bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1G7pA6-00045V-DK; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:34 +0200 Received: by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D6013F40B; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:59:33 +0200 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> To: User Freebsd Message-id: <20060801075933.GA1938@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:01:05 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: >=20 > I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most= =20 > ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches= =20 > ... >=20 > Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported=20 > platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a= =20 > suitable replacement for the card ... >=20 > So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote=20 > server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot= =20 > that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server=20 > afterwards ... >=20 I contacted Achim Leubner not long ago, about wheather he still maintains and supports the iir(4) driver, as claimed in the SEE ALSO section of the manpage. His answer was yes. That all I know. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEzwnlbHYXjKDtmC0RAlNLAKDtEZpLlkBPewug8GpD5mxt+v07pgCcCVus EBWBdVcEjXbTGonibsIe3uM= =jHK4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:04:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24B916A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gish0000@planet.nl) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.247.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA8843D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:04:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gish0000@planet.nl) Received: from po10 ([10.94.53.251]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3B00K8I7R8UN@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:04:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from planet.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by po10.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.07 (built Jun 24 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3B005DB7R8GR@po10.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:04:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.94.71.40] (Forwarded-For: [193.173.31.50]) by po10.wxs.nl (mshttpd); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:04:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:04:20 +0200 From: kiffin.gish@planet.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 2.02 (built Oct 21 2004) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: nl Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: nl Priority: normal Subject: Skip/ignore certain makes using portupgrade ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kiffin.gish@planet.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:04:40 -0000 What's the best way to ignore certain dependancies within makefiles while running a portupgrade? For example, I don't want to build the Galeon webbrowser everytime, but it is present in the Gnome2 makefile. If I delete it from the file this does not help because a cvsup restores the original makefile anyway. Thanks. -- Kiffin Gish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:20:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C563016A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from member@mail.whereareyounow.net) Received: from mail55.wayn.net (mail55.wayn.net [217.148.33.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3FE843D62 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:20:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from member@mail.whereareyounow.net) Received: from mail55.wayn.net[127.0.0.1] by mail55.wayn.net[127.0.0.1] (SMTPD32); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:19:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Jaroonsaka Paokeaw" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:19:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: WSMTP Mailer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Invitation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:20:21 -0000 Hi , Join me on WAYN so we can share our contact links, keep track of each = others whereabouts and meet over 6 million people from all around the world! 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Regards, Jaroonsaka -------------------------------- This invitation was sent to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org on behalf of = Jaroonsaka (jaroonsaka@hotmail.com)=2E If you do not wish to receive invitations from Jaroonsaka, click on the = link: http://www.wayn.com/wayn.html?wci=3Dpremails&m=3D5585859&c=3D189702228 If you do not wish to receive invitations from any members, click here: = http://www.wayn.com/wayn.html?wci=3Dpremails&c=3D189702228= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:21:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD22E16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0087843D7C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:21:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so187781nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iLD0+GaQlPEJ8PljJ07/P9NX7buuSdTy5e6vPA+gKOEYn5JxQNts7QamZguUWXzSYPj6l8227tHWpgCBOpizaVCx/IuDuPEUdylDaFRIWQeldDQwknPZXd5EShvdjnua3He2Drs4Qvwu5gPn8YvWS/35gqv8BUxvd3TNmF17eVo= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr188819hud; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 01:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:21:14 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:21:27 -0000 On 7/31/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > > > Chris Whitehouse writes: > > > >> Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >>> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing > >>> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of > >>> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple > >>> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will > >>> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems > >>> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of > >>> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id > >>> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for > >>> many home-based, variable IP systems. > >> > >> Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 > >> years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or > >> two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. > >> > > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip > > associated with my laptop, if I move it around. > > > > A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID > > number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. > > However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you > > think? > > How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or > software? > Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. Ok, here it is, " ifconfig | sha256 | md5 ". 16^32 unique anonymous keys. Every host needs to have a NIC to send results so all ifconfig outputs will be different. Now... What does this solve and why do we need to add 32 extra bytes? (20 + 32) bytes * (10^7) = 495.910645 megabytes. The FreeBSD team would need a 6.6Mbit/s uplink to handle peak load assuming 50% of the hosts are set to UTC/GMT time and all trigger within 5 minutes of each other.... I'm not going to pay for that connection. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:31:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D79B16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692DB43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:31:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:31:01 +0200 id 0003980D.44CF1145.00001762 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:31:01 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060801083101.GA5812@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: Skip/ignore certain makes using portupgrade ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:31:04 -0000 On 01 Aug kiffin.gish@planet.nl wrote: > What's the best way to ignore certain dependancies within makefiles > while running a portupgrade? > > For example, I don't want to build the Galeon webbrowser everytime, but > it is present in the Gnome2 makefile. See the HOLDPKG statement in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 08:35:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2F116A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31D443D55; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:35:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate2.punkt.de with ESMTP id k718Zo9J020421; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:35:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k718Zo6G067945; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:35:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k718ZoSZ067944; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:35:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:35:50 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-ID: <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:35:53 -0000 Hello! On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:51:59AM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me > the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they > were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have > to say about the GDT controllers. OK - so here's the deal: The GDT products are officially EOE (End Of Engineering). ICP Vortex will not provide capacity to update their own driver for FreeBSD 6. The new products will feature full FreeBSD support, eventually. (couple of weeks, he said) Technically, the ICP guy was quite confident, that ICP's own driver for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x didn't show the problems we have on FreeBSD 6 with the FreeBSD iir driver. He recommended using ICP's driver source as a reference when trying to fix the FreeBSD 6 driver. I'm not a kernel developer so I cannot really comment on this. HTH, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 11:24:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268B316A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B22043D5A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:24:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 07:24:31 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LYZ81378; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 07:24:25 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,201,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247447010:sNHT22786564" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:20:14 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090205.44CF397F.0026,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:24:29 -0000 Micah writes: > > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. > > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. > > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? > > I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an > okay job. While I run (and like) this combination myself, there are at least two caveats of which one ought to be aware: 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 11:52:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F23416A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from admin.mwci.net (corp.yournetplus.com [162.42.148.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293AB43D86 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from corp.yournetplus.com ([162.42.148.121] verified) by admin.mwci.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 29259308; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:51:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:51:50 +0000 (WET) From: Duane Hill To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: <20060801114923.F90694@cgate.yournetplus.com> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:52:03 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: > Micah writes: > >> > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. >> > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. >> > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? >> >> I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an >> okay job. > > While I run (and like) this combination myself, there are at > least two caveats of which one ought to be aware: > > 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is > fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. This is because SpamAssassin is CPU and memory intensive. High-volume, I wouldn't see running on anything less than a dual 2.8ghz with a bare minimum of 4gig ram (8 would be better). > 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I > have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more > frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 11:54:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB2F16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuanjue02@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF0D43D78 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:54:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuanjue02@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so911078pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:54:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=KOHiND7DEnc94cUNMg2RNUc0hVoAWtBxlbT2yPEu7m2J5xozbqLSgGsGr0BXnE/2Rnwj1SgmBOEJ8KpSzjDTqbSV9TASnwviHNcBpo3Rjn9hKeqQv/viG8MCOilNyoNUhnZdbowIs8F5yp0kij3GMA8+k9HplmNutWkrNNoUVZI= Received: by 10.35.126.7 with SMTP id d7mr5604872pyn; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?222.48.98.182? ( [124.172.191.119]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id t70sm5377785pyg.2006.08.01.04.53.55; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 04:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Yuan, Jue" Organization: Institute of Computing Technology, CAS, China To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:55:51 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608011955.51924.yuanjue02@gmail.com> Cc: Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:54:03 -0000 What about the first question? curious too :-) On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:51, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Tyler Spivey wrote: > > Hello. I'm interested in moving my server from linux to freeBSD, but > > have several questions: > > 2. Can Ufs handle crashes very well, or is a very long fsck needed like > > the old ext2 days? > > Usually fsck will run in the background after boot has finished. On very > hard crashes you may have to boot into single user to fix it. To avoid > this, make sure that the base system is on a separate partition, you may > even want to mount it read-only for security. (I think these are good > advises on any system). > > > 3. is the restriction of NFS-servers only mounting on partition > > boundaries going to be removed in the future, if it even still exists? > > You can export an entire partition, with -alldirs option you can mount > any sub directory with the permissions for that partition, eg: > > /home -alldirs -network 192.168.0.0/24 > > You can also export directories individually, but there are some > restrictions, exporting two directories on the same filesystem to the > same host must have the same permissions. Eg: > > /var/diskless/FreeBSD -ro -maproot=root:wheel -network 192.168.0.0/24 > /var/diskless/clt-1/var -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 > /var/diskless/clt-1/tmp -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 > > This works fine despite the first being -ro and the others -rw, because > the first line exports to a network and not the host, and the second two > have same permissions and mappings. But > > /var/diskless/FreeBSD -ro -maproot=root:wheel -network 192.168.0.0/24 > /var/diskless/clt-1/var -maproot=root:wheel 192.168.0.1 > /var/diskless/clt-1/tmp 192.168.0.1 > > doesn't, because of the missing maproot in the last export line. > > Cheers, Erik -- Best Regards Yuan, Jue @ http://www.yuanjue.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:05:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266AB16A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB7A43DF3 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1333913uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.59.20 with SMTP id m20mr5223918qbk; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15sm1250230qba.2006.08.01.05.04.06; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAEBFDC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:04:26 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: References: <20060731181038.4918.GERARD@seibercom.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Cc: jan gestre Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:05:29 -0000 "jan gestre" > it took almost 3 hours, i don't have X installed. i'm sending you the > portmanager.log in private coz it might clutter the thread. You have a warning message listed here: Tue Aug 1 04:38:03 2006 options changed so returning php4-mbstring-4.4.2_2 /converters/php4-mbstring to out of date pool I have never seen the "options changed so returning ..." message before. I am going to check an see if I can find out what it means. In the mean time, have your tried running pkgdb -F and just deleting the bad references? By the way, is this a fresh install, or has it been up for awhile? Did you ever delete any packages from the system? -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:18:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC3416A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4EE43D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:18:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so250807nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:18:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kGJgT6xkT5MKs2QLXz14UKFTooJMOrFm6e5nbYpjyLPdV8bUtCNUGu5jfnl6XQ8uOOA4S8azxuQAwHIDp7Vo4sgPHVibpuOU2nr8tVS2wis6TsosCA/n6b7tyy5F4h58gNd9msGew7D65VfKVfjxrsll+Du2POt2IcTL4iR4dZM= Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr560618nfi; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 05:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:18:29 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "Erik Norgaard" In-Reply-To: <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:18:44 -0000 On 01/08/06, Erik Norgaard wrote: you may > even want to mount it read-only for security. (I think these are good > advises on any system). I used to agree with this (specifically the mantra was "mount /usr read only") - until I tried to patch anything! Then it's useless. What you end up with is a machine which in which the base install is more secure, but all your data isn't. The base install is the one thing I know I can get back (i.e. reinstall) in 5 minutes. The data I cannot. Cheers, Erik > Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:34:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC40916A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@altpeter.de) Received: from mx1.corpex-net.de (mx1.corpex-net.de [62.67.202.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC4943D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:34:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@altpeter.de) Received: from [213.203.247.248] (helo=pegasus.dyndns.info) by mx1.corpex-net.de with asmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1G7tRv-0008S6-BY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:34:15 +0200 Received: by pegasus.dyndns.info (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:34:13 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:34:13 +0200 From: Frank Altpeter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801123412.GM1069@corpex.de> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Altpeter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: static compilation of php4-zlib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:34:15 -0000 [please include me in replies since i'm not (yet) subscribed] Hi there, I just hit a little problem with the php4 port archivers/php4-zlib. For a customer, i've set up a machine with apache and php4, which includes php4-zlib (via the metaport php4-extensions). Everything was running fine, until the customer uploaded compressed SWF files (and he stated that he doesn't have any way to get away from them, so uncompressing is not an option). So, i now get the expected error message: getimagesize(): The image is a compressed SWF file, but you do not have a static version of the zlib extension enabled. While trying to get php4-zlib to get statically linked, i failed so far. I tried to add '--enable-static' and '--disable-shared' to the lang/php4 Makefile but configure still tells me to enable shared linking. Even $search_engine didn't get me any good advise other than "Agree, compiling *all* extensions as shared is stupid, please address to the FreeBSD port maintainer." Could someone provide me with some hint how to get a static version of the zlib extension? Besides that: why does a compressed SWF file require a static version of zlib? Tìoraidh an-dràsda, Frank Altpeter -- *** FA-RIPE *** http://blog.foxalpha.de/ *** SIG at 11 *** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:41:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E8B16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: from iapetus.salford.ac.uk (iapetus.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7F0343D5A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:41:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 69993 invoked by uid 98); 1 Aug 2006 12:41:45 -0000 Received: from 146.87.255.121 by iapetus.salford.ac.uk (envelope-from , uid 401) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/1629. uvscan: v4.4.00/v4818. spamassassin: 3.0.4. Clear:RC:1(146.87.255.121):. Processed in 0.779462 secs); 01 Aug 2006 12:41:45 -0000 Received: from rust.salford.ac.uk (HELO newplato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.121) by iapetus.salford.ac.uk (qpsmtpd/0.29-cvs-20040817) with SMTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:41:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 10007 invoked by uid 1002); 1 Aug 2006 12:41:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 12:41:43 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:41:43 +0100 (BST) From: "Mark Powell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Using dnscache locally with FBSD 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:41:58 -0000 Hi, I want to put a local DJB dnscache on each host. This is primarily to improve reliabilty during network glitches. They will have cached most of our local addresses and will not hang if one of their dns servers disappears. However, I use svscan to start up dnscache, and that starts very late in the boot. That means I can't just have the single "nameserver 127.0.0.1" line in resolv.conf, as every lookup would timeout until dnscache started. That means I need to replace resolv.conf early in the boot with the addresses of remote dns caches: ----- nameserver x.x.x.x nameserver y.y.y.y ----- and then in dnscache's svscan startup file I can then put it back to: ----- nameserver 127.0.0.1 ----- I'm having difficulty finding the best place to make the former resolv.conf change to the remote dns servers. I initially tried /etc/rc.conf.local, but that gets sourced 16 times during bootup. That effectively forces resolv.conf to the remote dns servers, as it ust also be sourced after the dnscache has started up and overwrites the "nameserver 127.0.0.1" change that it makes when it starts up. Anyone got a better place to put this? Cheers. -- Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Information Services Division, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 4837 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:51:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C842716A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:51:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3CD43D53 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 11998 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 12:51:38 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Aug 2006 12:51:38 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1E64B28449; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:51:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Can Sar References: <2BDACC97-C2A4-4917-8B16-DE23C02D5110@stanford.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:51:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2BDACC97-C2A4-4917-8B16-DE23C02D5110@stanford.edu> (Can Sar's message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:22:12 -0700") Message-ID: <44vepc1uw7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBsd.org Subject: Re: Module Compilation Error in vnode.h, missing vnode_if.h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:51:39 -0000 Can Sar writes: > I am trying to compile a module for 6.0-RELEASE that includes vnode.h > . Unfortunately even the simple test file below fails. It claims that > sys/vnode_if.h is missing (which upon checking is true) and seems to > be missing in general as well: > "http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/sys/vnode_if.h?v=RELENG60" > Any idea what I could be doing wrong? It's produced dynamically, I think. See: /usr/src/sys/tools/vnode_if.awk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 12:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D1B16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD5F43D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:54:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:54:49 -0400 id 00056426.44CF4F19.00010274 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 08:51:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:54:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Mark Powell" Message-Id: <20060801085450.56eadfe5.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> References: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using dnscache locally with FBSD 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:54:50 -0000 In response to "Mark Powell" : > Hi, > I want to put a local DJB dnscache on each host. This is primarily to > improve reliabilty during network glitches. They will have cached most of > our local addresses and will not hang if one of their dns servers > disappears. > However, I use svscan to start up dnscache, and that starts very late in > the boot. That means I can't just have the single "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > line in resolv.conf, as every lookup would timeout until dnscache started. > That means I need to replace resolv.conf early in the boot with the > addresses of remote dns caches: Have you investigated the possibility of moving svscan's startup earlier in the boot sequence? I don't know whether the svscan startup script is rcng compliant yet, but if it is, you could move it to /etc/rc.d and move it _way_ up in the startup sequence. Another option is to put addresses that need to resolve before svscan has started into /etc/hosts so that they don't need DNS. This could be a maintenance nightmare, though, if there are many addresses. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:09:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C9616A4E2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 782F143D5D for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: (qmail 811 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 14:22:48 -0000 Received: from 85233229074.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO dansknet.dk) (85.233.229.74) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 14:22:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:08:57 +0200 From: Rico Secada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801150857.7b28ddf3@dansknet.dk> In-Reply-To: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:09:04 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) User Freebsd wrote: Seems to me like the best solution is to boykott Adaptec like OpenBSD did. > > 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems > to be: > > "FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the "GDT" based ICP RAID > controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work." > > Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support > doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the > specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the > problem(s) ... > > For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) > driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to > heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file > accesses just no longer work ... > > So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and > are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to > build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at > your own peril ... > > Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex > cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... > > If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing > this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all > three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the > kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you > want in the way of information concerning the problem ... > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:24:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2BA16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (phsmgmx4.partners.org [155.52.251.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02A643D5D for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 28900188353 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx4.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A1A188349 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k71DPxlU060515 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:26:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Richard Morse Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:24:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:24:37 -0000 Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL was behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found that every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of queries to this database start not returning -- they take forever. By climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following line to /etc/rc.conf: mysql_args="--log=/var/log/mysql_query.log --log-error=/var/log/ mysql_error.log" but these log files don't seem to contain how long a query took, and I can't even tell if the query that is misbehaving is making it into the log file. - Does anyone have any suggestions what might be causing this problem? - How can I fix it? Thanks, Ricky Morse From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:24:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8D416A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu (serrano.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D0843D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:24:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71DOfrX018478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:24:46 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:24:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Nikolas Britton's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2006 03:21:14 -0500") Message-ID: <87lkq8k2qu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.6 Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:24:47 -0000 "Nikolas Britton" writes: > Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. > That's how we can tell the differences between server to server. > Ok, here it is, " ifconfig | sha256 | md5 ". 16^32 unique anonymous > keys. Every host needs to have a NIC to send results so all ifconfig > outputs will be different. Now... What does this solve and why do we > need to add 32 extra bytes? > I guess we are not suppose to generate the key from ifconfig, which will change in some circumstances. > (20 + 32) bytes * (10^7) = 495.910645 megabytes. The FreeBSD team > would need a 6.6Mbit/s uplink to handle peak load assuming 50% of the > hosts are set to UTC/GMT time and all trigger within 5 minutes of each > other.... I'm not going to pay for that connection. > That IS the problem. What about randomize it in a certain interval? > -- > BSD Podcasts @: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ > http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:44:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ED316A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (phsmgmx1.partners.org [155.52.251.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B56C43D86 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:44:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DFD3E2740CC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx1.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AB22740F3; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k71Dju1C060651; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:45:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <5DC17E6B6DEA534299114977DBDD0D21205B35BC@crp809.wfm.wegmans.com> References: <5DC17E6B6DEA534299114977DBDD0D21205B35BC@crp809.wfm.wegmans.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <238B55EE-9E4F-4B10-BF82-EFB2F18F8F19@partners.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:44:28 -0400 To: William Woodhams X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:44:54 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:38 AM, William Woodhams wrote: > My first question would be what version of MySQL did you come from? > This sometimes can have an effect on queries. Hi! My apologies for leaving this out. It was 5.0.13. Ricky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:56:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95F716A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bsdserver.com.br) Received: from nitrobsd.bsdserver.com.br (dns.bsdserver.com.br [200.215.210.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FD643D69 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:56:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@bsdserver.com.br) Received: from webmail.bsdserver.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nitrobsd.bsdserver.com.br (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71Dudjm065345 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:56:39 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from freebsd@bsdserver.com.br) From: "Rafael Aquino" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:56:39 -0300 Message-Id: <20060801135326.M28129@bsdserver.com.br> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 200.102.225.74 (bsdserver) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: carp and nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:56:44 -0000 Hi there, I started to configure two firewall to work with carp+pfsync. I got everything done and working, but it seems thant I can't make nat on pf work properly. Just to know: does nat on pf work fine when using carp? Do I have to do the nat on the carp interface or on the physical interface? Thanks! -- Rafael Mentz Aquino BSDServer Ltda. 51 - 9847 8825 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 13:12:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184C216A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxman@staff.xnet.co.za) Received: from smtp.xnet.co.za (smtp.xnet.co.za [66.8.63.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7DF43D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:12:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxman@staff.xnet.co.za) Received: by smtp.xnet.co.za (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B0ADE2752C; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:20:09 +0200 (SAST) Received: from hpjdesk (unknown [10.10.10.102]) by smtp.xnet.co.za (Postfix) with SMTP id 4803727456 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:20:04 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <000801c6b56d$43313980$660a0a0a@hpjdesk> From: "max mapuranga" To: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:20:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on smtp.xnet.co.za X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, HTML_90_100, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:17:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:12:34 -0000 how do i make the squid, appache From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:27:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B1616A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53E043D4C; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:27:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39F5291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10814-06; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03167291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 310FB5C1DF; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295394AA8B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:13 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:27:13 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Patrick M. Hausen" In-Reply-To: <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Message-ID: <20060801112116.J27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:27:10 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: > >> Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported >> platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a >> suitable replacement for the card ... > > That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me > the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they > were working on full FreeBSD support. Great, that definitely wasn't the feel that I got from them ... I've been using Adaptec products since early 90's, mainly because they have always been the 'tried-n-true' product ... As I mentioned to someone else, I'm willing to endure having the server hang up a few times in order to debug the problem, and fix the driver, but any correspondance that I actually got answers back on gave me the feel that I was on my own ... my previous email to this was meant to warn others to think twice, especially with newer FreeBSD boxes, about going with anything that runs on the iir(4) driver ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:28:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296A316A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDD2443D5A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 67432 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 14:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 14:28:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33377AD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:28:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jg4PUNX7iKu1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:27:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5AA93 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:27:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44CF64EE.5040809@mikestammer.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:27:58 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000801c6b56d$43313980$660a0a0a@hpjdesk> In-Reply-To: <000801c6b56d$43313980$660a0a0a@hpjdesk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: squid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:28:05 -0000 max mapuranga wrote: > how do i make the squid, appache > What? Please clarify what you are looking to do here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:30:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C49416A4DE; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F89843D70; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:30:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C87291B06; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:29:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10814-07; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:30:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE5D291B05; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:29:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id D0C315C5CB; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:30:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD3E5C4F0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:30:06 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:30:06 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Christian Brueffer In-Reply-To: <20060801075933.GA1938@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Message-ID: <20060801112758.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075933.GA1938@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:30:22 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:49:27PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: >> >> I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most >> ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches >> ... >> >> Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported >> platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a >> suitable replacement for the card ... >> >> So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote >> server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot >> that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server >> afterwards ... >> > > I contacted Achim Leubner not long ago, about wheather he still > maintains and supports the iir(4) driver, as claimed in the SEE ALSO > section of the manpage. His answer was yes. I email'd him several weeks back, as soon as it was determined that the problem I've been experiencing with the deadlocks looked to be iir related, and didn't hear anything back :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:36:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F4C16A4E2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A093D43D45; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FBF291B03; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24928-01; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204B291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 205445C4F0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC894AA8B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:17 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:17 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20060801113010.W27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:36:13 -0000 A quick follow up on this email ... please note that I have not, in this email, pointed to anything but the iir(4) driver, and, more specifically, the GDT controller card ... I have been using Adaptec products since the early 90's, and, until upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x, *never* had a complaint with them ... this email was meant to be a 'caveat emptor' for anyone looking to use the iir(4) driver, and is not meant to apply to *all* Adaptec cards, as they don't all use the iir(4) driver ... Apologies to all who took this as a broad attack against Adaptec, it was not meant as such ... On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, User Freebsd wrote: > > 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to > be: > > "FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the "GDT" based ICP RAID > controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work." > > Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support > doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs > are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) > ... > > For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) > driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy > load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses > just no longer work ... > > So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and > are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build > a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own > peril ... > > Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, > *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... > > If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this > problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three > exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel > debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in > the way of information concerning the problem ... > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:38:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5510816A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BAD43D5D; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:38:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8173C291B03; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24776-04; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D767C291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 9EB675C4F0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A44C4AA8B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:41 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:38:41 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Patrick M. Hausen" In-Reply-To: <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Message-ID: <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:38:38 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hello! > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:51:59AM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > >> That's really really bad news. Oddly, ICP Vortex Germany told me >> the opposite wr/t to their new line of cards. They said, they >> were working on full FreeBSD support. I'll check what they have >> to say about the GDT controllers. > > OK - so here's the deal: > > The GDT products are officially EOE (End Of Engineering). > ICP Vortex will not provide capacity to update their own > driver for FreeBSD 6. > > The new products will feature full FreeBSD support, eventually. > (couple of weeks, he said) 'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) driver then? Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:43:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5202916A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B8743D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k71EhSfM091766; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:43:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:43:28 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20060801144327.GF63872@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:43:29 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 01), Robert Huff said: > Micah writes: > > > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. There is > > > only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. Can anyone > > > give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? > > > > I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an > > okay job. > > While I run (and like) this combination myself, there are at least > two caveats of which one ought to be aware: > > 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is fine for > a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. Luckily, most of spamassassin's CPU is spent in startup, so per-message costs in daemon mode, although high, aren't anywhere near what they are when you run spamassassin directly. You can also put your spamd on a different machine from your email server to separate the load. > 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I have > no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more frightening than > it is, but can still lead to complications. You shouldn't have had to rebuild sendmail; some OSes don't ship a libmilter with their sendmail, but FreeBSD does. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:47:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0052916A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D99243D58 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71ElSYw009516; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k71ElSm5009515; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:47:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200608011447.k71ElSm5009515@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: tech.junk@verizon.net Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:47:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <44C9324D.5000807@verizon.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:47:34 -0000 > > Joshua Lewis wrote: > > > > Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I > > start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing > > something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up > > bloating my system any ways right? > > > > Look at them both and make a choice if you like either. > I tried both in the past, but found they were not for me for various > reasons, so I went looking, also tried Xfce as has been mentioned, but > I decided I wanted to try something really different from things that > seemed Windows like. > > Tried WindowMaker and have been using it now for a long time. Here is > the url www.windowmaker.info if you are interested. > As you requested lean and fast, little slow getting started, only > because it is very different in the approach of say Gnome, KDE, or Xfce, > but once you get used to it, works great. I also like dock apps, which > you can get more info at http://dockapps.org/ Gee, I just use AfterStep. Of course, that isn't really an MS-Win environment replacement. It doesn't even attempt to be. But then I really do not want to have the look and feel of MS-Win. I want something more straight-forward and less icky. ////jerry > Good Luck, > Sean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:53:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4A16A4F0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B6B43D9F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:53:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 10:53:21 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZA83235; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 10:53:06 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,202,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247583464:sNHT626334504" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17615.27090.772043.518047@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:48:50 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060801144327.GF63872@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801144327.GF63872@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090207.44CF6A72.001F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:53:55 -0000 Dan Nelson writes: > > 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I have > > no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more frightening than > > it is, but can still lead to complications. > > You shouldn't have had to rebuild sendmail; some OSes don't ship > a libmilter with their sendmail, but FreeBSD does. Bad phrasing on my part. Let's try again: 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding the sendmail config file. (I have no idea about other MTAs.) To less experienced users This sounds more frightening than it is (given the nature of the raw file and the existance of the configuration front end), but can still lead to complications. "Sorry about that, Chief." :-) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 14:57:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86616A4F2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E766643D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1983D291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27271-07; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D87A291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 385A85C072; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373914A1AB; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:57:24 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801115051.N27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:57:27 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. If you want to make accurate #s, you need to make sure that a host doesn't send in multiple reports, which means you need a unique key for each host ... IP doesn't work, since NAT'd networks would all use the same IP ... even non-NAT'd networks would have the risk of being on dynamic IPs, so that again doesn't work ... > (20 + 32) bytes * (10^7) = 495.910645 megabytes. The FreeBSD team would > need a 6.6Mbit/s uplink to handle peak load assuming 50% of the hosts > are set to UTC/GMT time and all trigger within 5 minutes of each > other.... I'm not going to pay for that connection. First question is ... what is 10^7? # of reporting hosts? Where are you getting that # from? Second, that is assuming *all* FreeBSD servers reported ... But, I'll say this right now ... *if* something like this could be implemented to give us accurate #s, I *would* be willing to absorb the bandwidth you are talking about to see it happen ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:05:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC5416A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: from web22.poli.usp.br (web22.poli.usp.br [143.107.106.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0792F43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: from [172.20.0.21] ([201.43.174.173]) by web22.poli.usp.br over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:05:20 -0300 Message-ID: <44CF6DAA.3070303@hacked.com.br> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:05:14 -0300 From: Vinicius Vianna User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafael Aquino , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060801135326.M28129@bsdserver.com.br> In-Reply-To: <20060801135326.M28129@bsdserver.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2006 15:05:20.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8337890:01C6B57B] Cc: Subject: Re: carp and nat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:05:28 -0000 Hi, Your network layout would help in this but anyway. The carp on the external interface should be used to the external router know what firewall to send your incoming packets, and the carp on the internal interface to the same thing on you LAN. You can check with route(8) what interface is being used to route your packets, so you will know what interface the nat should run on pf, in my machines i have used the nat on the external interface, so as they are the route to the external world, but this was on OpenBSD, it should be the same on FreeBSD. HTH, Vinicius Rafael Aquino wrote: > Hi there, > > I started to configure two firewall to work with carp+pfsync. > > I got everything done and working, but it seems thant I can't make > nat on pf work properly. > > Just to know: does nat on pf work fine when using carp? > Do I have to do the nat on the carp interface or on the physical > interface? > > Thanks! > > -- > Rafael Mentz Aquino > BSDServer Ltda. > 51 - 9847 8825 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:05:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8903716A4DF; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C5F43D46; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:05:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate2.punkt.de with ESMTP id k71F5ema000386; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k71F5e6G010372; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k71F5e1w010371; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:40 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:05:42 -0000 Hello! > 'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) > driver then? Yes, they won't. > Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? As far as Adaptec and ICP Vortex are concerned, yes. Since the driver is Open Source, there is no enforced EOE, just "orphanage", if nobody is willing to work on it. Regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:19:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C792B16A4F8 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B4243D93 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:18:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33D2E024; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:18:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CF70AB.9030404@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:18:03 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Yuan, Jue" References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <200608011955.51924.yuanjue02@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200608011955.51924.yuanjue02@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070506060102000603000103" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:19:16 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070506060102000603000103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yuan, Jue wrote: > What about the first question? curious too :-) http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ is a good bookmark to have when you accidentially delete a post you later want to look at. 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id BE4CD291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44636-07; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EFB291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 27BE65C0B0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239034AB20; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:46 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:19:45 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:20:48 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 7/31/06, User Freebsd wrote: >> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: >> >> > Chris Whitehouse writes: >> > >> >> Alex Zbyslaw wrote: >> >>> Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing >> >>> sent from local host - will count systems from any version of >> >>> FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple >> >>> hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will >> >>> get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems >> >>> with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of >> >>> either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id >> >>> associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for >> >>> many home-based, variable IP systems. >> >> >> >> Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 >> >> years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or >> >> two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. >> >> >> > But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip >> > associated with my laptop, if I move it around. >> > >> > A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID >> > number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. >> > However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you >> > think? >> >> How does Solaris generate its 'hostid'? Is it a hardware/sparc thing, or >> software? >> > > Generating a unique anonymous key is easy, proving why we need it is not. > > Ok, here it is, " ifconfig | sha256 | md5 ". 16^32 unique anonymous > keys. Every host needs to have a NIC to send results so all ifconfig > outputs will be different. Now... What does this solve and why do we > need to add 32 extra bytes? 'k, so we'd be looking at something like: #!/bin/sh ID=`ifconfig | sha256 | md5` SYS=`uname -mr | sed 's/\ /+/g'` fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$ID\&SYSTEM=$SYS URL would be different, mind you, just using that to test / example ... Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need to do something like: ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 since the 'ether' would never change ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:22:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF5116A4EB for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB7543E18 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:22:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B95291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48340-02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1AE291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 4EF2B5C0B0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F854AB20; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:22:24 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Rico Secada In-Reply-To: <20060801150857.7b28ddf3@dansknet.dk> Message-ID: <20060801122018.L27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150857.7b28ddf3@dansknet.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:22:52 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Rico Secada wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:44:01 -0300 (ADT) > User Freebsd wrote: > > Seems to me like the best solution is to boykott Adaptec like OpenBSD did. Actually, based on the thread going on on -stable right now, from ppl that are talking to Adaptec, the issue is that the cards that use the iir(4) driver, at least as far as I'm reading things, are no longer considered supported ... Adaptec / ICP Vortex *is* coming out with newer cards, that will be supported by FreeBSD, but they won't fall under the iir(4) driver ... So the problem is more 'older cards with newer operating system' ... > >> >> 'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems >> to be: >> >> "FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the "GDT" based ICP RAID >> controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work." >> >> Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support >> doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the >> specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the >> problem(s) ... >> >> For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) >> driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to >> heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file >> accesses just no longer work ... >> >> So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and >> are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to >> build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at >> your own peril ... >> >> Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex >> cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... >> >> If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing >> this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all >> three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the >> kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you >> want in the way of information concerning the problem ... >> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:26:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9366E16A4EA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC4843DBC for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:25:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.253] (unknown [192.168.0.253]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75EB2E024; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:25:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:25:45 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060721) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freminlins References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050307040007090800040206" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:26:42 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050307040007090800040206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Freminlins wrote: > On 01/08/06, *Erik Norgaard* > wrote: > > > you may > even want to mount it read-only for security. (I think these are good > advises on any system). > > > I used to agree with this (specifically the mantra was "mount /usr read > only") - until I tried to patch anything! Then it's useless. You usually don't patch up your system everyday. Remount rw do the patching and remount ro. The problem is more that some 3rd party applications assume that /usr is writeable. I found the problem more annoying with / whenever I need to change some system file. However, most important is to have /tmp on a separate partition. Then there will only be few writes on /. > What you end up with is a machine which in which the base install is > more secure, but all your data isn't. The base install is the one thing > I know I can get back (i.e. reinstall) in 5 minutes. The data I cannot. I think it is very valuable to get the system up so I can rescue my data. Having base system go down along with my data doesn't seem to have any clear advantages. Mounting / and/or /usr ro will get your systems up faster and that seemed to be the issue. 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(authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k71FZfor016599; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:35:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:35:40 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Patrick M. Hausen" References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> In-Reply-To: <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:35:55 -0000 Ok guys, time for a small breather here. All these claims about EoE and orphanage and whatnot are a bit premature and underinformed. First, the iir driver is being worked on when the need arises. Several bugs were fixed in it a few months ago, and until Mark's recent series of mails on it, no other problems had been reported. So far there is only one person reporting unhappiness with it, which doesn't necessarily mean that there is systematic trouble with the driver or the hardware. Second, various Adaptec sources have confirmed that they do support FreeBSD. Making big statements in public that they don't, or that it's not up to ones' standards or hopes, isn't terribly useful or productive. I'd hate for FreeBSD to turn into That Other BSD that publically abuses and harasses vendors for percieved sleights. There are much more positive and product ways to fix problems and form good relationships, and those ways are actively being pursued by some people right now. And here again is my standard disclaimer: I highly recommend that anyone who takes their data integrity seriously should spend time qualifying any RAID solution that they are interested in before putting it into production. What works for your workload might not work for someone else's workload, and vice-versa. Scott Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hello! > > >>'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) >>driver then? > > > Yes, they won't. > > >>Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? > > > As far as Adaptec and ICP Vortex are concerned, yes. Since the > driver is Open Source, there is no enforced EOE, just "orphanage", > if nobody is willing to work on it. > > Regards, > > Patrick M. Hausen > Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:48:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DFA16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CB743D68 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 11:48:45 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZB20013; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 11:48:31 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,203,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247626146:sNHT26598224" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:44:14 -0400 To: User Freebsd In-Reply-To: <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=35/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=suspect(0), refid=str=0001.0A090203.44CF776D.008B,ss=2,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:48:46 -0000 User Freebsd writes: > Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as > soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need > to do something like: > > ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 > > since the 'ether' would never change ... At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the MAC address .... Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:53:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC0E16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEAA43D6D for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:53:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5731D92B4F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:53:18 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: rOvTCCKchGY89xGHqZS8q4Rqo6ppCtQLABxVGqCIloVk 1154447598 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E23785F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:53:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608011653.12446.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Using dnscache locally with FBSD 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:53:17 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:41, Mark Powell wrote: > That means I need to replace resolv.conf early in the boot with the > addresses of remote dns caches: >... > and then in dnscache's svscan startup file I can then put it back to: > > ----- > nameserver 127.0.0.1 The nameservers in resolv.conf are tried in order. You can simply put 127.0.0.1 first, followed by the other servers. This only adds a few seconds to the startup, it not like the timeouts of several minutes that you get when no nameserver is available. If your problem is that the external nameservers come from dhcp then just add the line prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; to /etc/dhclient.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 15:54:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE60A16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE3043D7E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so310452nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H4D8imtWQfrigToiMSgAbzlyrsyrEvzM51zIhWDk9NreqEIv1I6g+Lce1KrlUa9SmExKEvEuTuUcQTPOiy4FFYRl5k//iZ638MMTQR75l0WuUju2W0vO3KNlsrUF1jbRkbpwG9zKEykVtApsRltngWI4hhW3zSBpM6lFReHrI4g= Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr966582nfj; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:54:49 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?=" In-Reply-To: <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:54:56 -0000 On 01/08/06, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: You usually don't patch up your system everyday. Remount rw do the > patching and remount ro. The problem is more that some 3rd party > applications assume that /usr is writeable. I found the problem more > annoying with / whenever I need to change some system file. I still disagree. The base OS files which need protecting are already protected sufficiently. If you don't agree with this then simply remounting ro is not sufficient. Only with elevated securelevels would this be useful. Else, anyone who gets root on the box can simply remount rw and do what the= y will. However, most important is to have /tmp on a separate partition. Then > there will only be few writes on /. Except for useful things like installing additional software. That is something I do do regularly. I think it is very valuable to get the system up so I can rescue my > data. Having base system go down along with my data doesn't seem to have > any clear advantages Mounting / and/or /usr ro will get your systems up faster and that > seemed to be the issue. You made the point with reference to security, not system recovery. That is what I am contradicting. Cheers, Erik > Cheers, Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:09:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D742016A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3E343D70 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id x3so292613nzd for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uM/jFmSQ56RvXXJvMxmr6Du4BFF7G8JFUYtceL2/hv7gltmNjCmKBsdxqnZS5HiIhE6AONLvFikhsfBaNp2B1iEYeXfMtB+10mBSjtEHNOEcQbwYTyw87X3tLyOrck4B8xhdl5h8mk8ILwQIToF6+3/lKLMO6HarrOk21ecp36w= Received: by 10.35.117.5 with SMTP id u5mr5921398pym; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:09:08 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: justin@pcmedicsite.com In-Reply-To: <000001c6b4c5$19e54290$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c6b4c5$19e54290$6b08a8c0@pcmoperations> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Repair X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:09:09 -0000 On 7/31/06, Justin wrote: > > My question is: Is there a way to scan the RAID, and recover the NTFS > partition? I've Google'd, but only come up with half results claiming that > a "dd" script can be written, reading 64K chunks off of each drive and > rebuilding a complete image. I also have a 250GB HDD on a separate > controller that is currently blank where I can rebuild this image if needed. > In my opinion you are pretty much out of luck. Sure, it might be possible to write a dd script that can put the chunks back togeather onto a new volume. But the amount of work it would take almost always exceeds the value of the data you are trying to recover. Have you tried swapping the drive positions? 0->1, 1->0. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:11:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AAA16A4E2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5181543D72; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:11:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E662291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60599-09; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD698291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:10:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 08EEB5CAAB; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:10:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080545CA8B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:10:59 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:10:58 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> Message-ID: <20060801125751.W27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:11:10 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Scott Long wrote: > Ok guys, time for a small breather here. All these claims about > EoE and orphanage and whatnot are a bit premature and underinformed. > First, the iir driver is being worked on when the need arises. Several > bugs were fixed in it a few months ago, and until Mark's recent series > of mails on it, no other problems had been reported. So far there is > only one person reporting unhappiness with it, which doesn't necessarily > mean that there is systematic trouble with the driver or the hardware. > Second, various Adaptec sources have confirmed that they do support > FreeBSD. Making big statements in public that they don't, or that it's > not up to ones' standards or hopes, isn't terribly useful or productive. > I'd hate for FreeBSD to turn into That Other BSD that publically abuses > and harasses vendors for percieved sleights. There are much more > positive and product ways to fix problems and form good relationships, > and those ways are actively being pursued by some people right now. As email'd previous, I do apologize if my email was taken as "disgruntled against Adaptec", for it was not meant as such ... it was merely meant as a warning to others, similar to your disclaimer below, that if you are running a card using the iir(4) driver, and are looking to move up to FreeBSD 6.x, that they might experience issues ... Please also note that until I hit what, from most angles, was appearing to be major brick walls, I was doing everything I could to, and am still willing to, provide all of the information I can towards diagnosing and fixing the issue ... I had tried all avenues that I knew about ... I tried email'ng the listed MAINTAINER, no response ... I got an email from one developer telling me that there wasn't much that could be done, due to the closed specs, without being able to get ahold of said MAINTAINER ... and the response I got back from ICP Vortex was one of "the inbox driver should work fine, but we don't official support FreeBSD" ... it doesn't leave much of a warm feeling that the driver is anything but orphaned :( My email was meant as a warning so that others could hopefully avoid the several weeks it took me to get to the point that all *appeared* lost ... Also, please note that in my email, I did finish it off with a plea that if anyone from Adaptec, or working with them, was out there, that my server was pretty much at their disposal to fix the problem, even at the risk of losing clients due to the downtime ... > And here again is my standard disclaimer: I highly recommend that anyone > who takes their data integrity seriously should spend time qualifying > any RAID solution that they are interested in before putting it into > production. What works for your workload might not work for someone > else's workload, and vice-versa. In this case, we're talking about 3 servers that ran flawlessly with the iir(4) driver under 4.x, that are no exhibiting the deadlock/hang issues, after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x ... Up until upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x, I've *never* had a problem with either an Adaptec controller, or running one with FreeBSD ... > > Scott > > > Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> Hello! >> >> >>> 'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the iir(4) >>> driver then? >> >> >> Yes, they won't. >> >> >>> Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? >> >> >> As far as Adaptec and ICP Vortex are concerned, yes. Since the >> driver is Open Source, there is no enforced EOE, just "orphanage", >> if nobody is willing to work on it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Patrick M. Hausen >> Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:11:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0FB16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9CF43D6E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:11:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D8291B02; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63426-05; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB6E291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 5762D5CA2F; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E8E4A3D1; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:42 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:11:42 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: <20060801131123.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:11:53 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: > User Freebsd writes: >> Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as >> soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need >> to do something like: >> >> ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 >> >> since the 'ether' would never change ... > > At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the > MAC address .... Man, we definitely don't make a unique host id an easy thing to accomplish, do we? :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:23:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7010F16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B2343D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:23:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so996748pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V1HcFc2KK8FLXFFTTnBqcRWhV8fPg5FHnu/3tyN9W21qrf7DFpWO6JqbK7bs3Af31iMCEIIea1mbIYDmZ3/9nAf/F6KIWW+rvosRwiuRSb1c32XknD5Fc233x7x+k56SN5JwX9cTXqJjAsrb5l0C45nWnCx1uw4xz1vDkTAtOdU= Received: by 10.35.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr3623095pyn; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:22:59 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Joseph Gleason" In-Reply-To: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:23:02 -0000 On 7/31/06, Joseph Gleason wrote: > Is it possible to reach two hosts via two interfaces that are both on > the same subnet? ... > My objective is to have a FreeBSD box balance outbound traffic between > two NICs, while being able to select from among many routers that > could be the default gateway and having the two NICs connect to > different switches for fault tolerance. (I would do the fault > tolerance via a watchdog script of some sort) > Take a look at pf. pf has some very powerful nat rules that should be able to do what you want. Use a table to specify the next-hop and use a pfctl script for your watchdog. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:27:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A2616A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560BA43D6E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7x5z-0000QH-I2; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:51 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7x5w-0007eC-Tt; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: <44CF8104.6080909@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:48 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:27:58 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but > as soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... > you'd need to do something like: > > ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 > > since the 'ether' would never change ... I think you'd want ifconfig | grep ether | head -1 | sha256 | md5 otherwise you are reliant on *none* of the ethernet cards changing rather than just the first not changing. Also s/never/rarely/. I don't change my ethernet cards every day, but every once in a while it will happen. But I would have said that was good enough. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:29:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BE016A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4B043D72 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:29:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 12:29:50 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZB44456; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Aug 2006 12:29:42 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,203,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="247657689:sNHT1214725410" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17615.32884.347381.673377@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:25:24 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090201.44CF810F.001C,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:29:47 -0000 Freminlins writes: > Except for useful things like installing additional software. That is > something I do do regularly. On my system, "additional software" goes under the separate partition /usr. Or are we using different definitions of "additional"? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:41:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E06F16A4E0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3737543DC5 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 59481 invoked by uid 89); 1 Aug 2006 16:43:25 -0000 Received: from 204-8-13-106.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@204.8.13.106) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 16:43:25 -0000 Message-ID: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:37:53 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:41:16 -0000 Good morning, We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've been watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. But looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of piperd. Possibly I misunderstand it's meaning. I thought that was a lack of file descriptors? Netstat -m shows the following, bash-2.05b# netstat -m mbuf usage: GEN cache: 0/0 (in use/in pool) CPU #0 cache: 1075/1440 (in use/in pool) CPU #1 cache: 187/416 (in use/in pool) CPU #2 cache: 170/512 (in use/in pool) CPU #3 cache: 147/448 (in use/in pool) Total: 1579/2816 (in use/in pool) Mbuf cache high watermark: 512 Maximum possible: 51200 Allocated mbuf types: 1064 mbufs allocated to data 515 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 5% of mbuf map consumed mbuf cluster usage: GEN cache: 2/736 (in use/in pool) CPU #0 cache: 508/520 (in use/in pool) CPU #1 cache: 5/128 (in use/in pool) CPU #2 cache: 6/128 (in use/in pool) CPU #3 cache: 10/128 (in use/in pool) Total: 531/1640 (in use/in pool) Cluster cache high watermark: 128 Maximum possible: 25600 6% of cluster map consumed 3984 KBytes of wired memory reserved (36% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines apropos piperd shows nothing, man top gives no clues. Is this an issue or am I worried about nothing? Thanks, DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:06:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A2616A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D1643D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:06:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519ECD92F77 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:44:35 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: P6b1UW4hsnqlo/tG9BeTgnyk8X/vfthZHkL7Rlbt6bSn 1154450674 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5B27867 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:44:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060731041532.50021.qmail@web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060731041532.50021.qmail@web55115.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608011744.27799.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: How to make ADSL modem conections FBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:06:49 -0000 On Monday 31 July 2006 05:15, Bryan Bonifacio wrote: > Hi JC, > > I suggest you have your ADSL modem changed to a > non-USB one (an ethernet one instead). Those are much > easier to configure and you could connect them > directly to your router. > > I used to have a USB ADSL modem myself but had it > changed so I wouldn't have to deal with them (I wasn't > sure if they were compatible anyways). I imagine your > ISP has an etherenet ADSL modem available. The most straightforward solution is an Ethernet ADSL-router. Ethernet modems are fine if you live in a part of the world where PPPoE is the normal way of delivering ADSL, otherwise there are pitfalls. USB modem drivers are a problem with FreeBSD, there's an Alcatel driver in the port net/pppoa, and there is an Eagle chipset driver here: http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ueagle/faq.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:17:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CB316A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from mail1.disney.com (mail1.disney.com [204.128.192.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE1143D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Clinton.Born@dig.com) Received: from imr1.disney.pvt (imr1.disney.pvt [153.7.231.20]) by mail1.disney.com with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:46 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com (sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com [153.7.30.143]) by imr1.disney.pvt with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:45 -0700 Received: from sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com ([153.7.195.120]) by sm-cala-xgw02b.swna.wdpr.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:16:45 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:17:36 -0700 Message-Id: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD0690623E7C7@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Thread-Index: Aca1HGtBdlfl8uemSSmkA9qIDnT8CwAcXheg From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Born, Clinton" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2006 17:16:45.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[43BCD4B0:01C6B58E] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:17:20 -0000 You turned this into a Microsoft issue. I didn't. Do you feel that the world is closing in around you, and that it's powered by windows? You probably surround yourself with UNIX based systems and dread the idea of a heterogeneous computing environment. -----Original Message----- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:12 AM To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Born, Clinton" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" ; "Born, Clinton" Cc: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it > comes to making technology decisions. Then start with yourself. You don't have an objective view. > We've made bad technology work, > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft > license. Yeah right. Maybe if you started discussing specific examples we might believe you, until then your just another parlor windbag. > Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > single system should be viewed with skepticism. And as I asked before, why are you pounding the drum for Microsoft since they evangelize a single system - theirs? > Is this what you mean > buy out of touch? > by, not buy, although freudian slip there since buy is the word for this discussion. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM > To: Born, Clinton > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > > > Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They > > are on > > par with Hezbollah. > > You really are out of touch, aren't you. > > Chad > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM > > To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Born, Clinton" > > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" > > ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" > > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM > > Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > > > >> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. > >> > > > > Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS > > solutions > > and > > FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ > > > > You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. > > > > Ted > > > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:24:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD14C16A4E0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harold_hartley@verizon.net) Received: from web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D09943D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:24:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harold_hartley@verizon.net) Received: (qmail 27425 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2006 17:24:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20060801172418.27423.qmail@web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.222.233.191] by web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:24:18 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Harold Hartley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: ax25 in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:24:19 -0000 I'm wondering if the kernel is setup for using AX.25 stuff with freebsd. And will I be able to use other hamradio apps I have found in linux and be able to compile them to work in freebsd as I usually run a hamradio gateway. (this is why I ask). I was going to try freebsd on my laptop first before I change my desktop over to freebsd from windows XP. Harold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 16:27:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F51416A514 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC5AC43D55 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74593 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2006 16:27:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UYafPROBmYO9ZUAx71ueDq7oi2nNzY1VmnPTG+Q8QcCYpqGCSY1EoPRtg1eX8vhkD0OmAYm00w0X/SSABN06er10ACNkcMA/Sz2QYPmk06MV7XAuVH1uAYFjU2M5yNjve7wv89StzB7gU4q4IUPzpz3r0+mqpuYASDRrqzR76Cg= ; Message-ID: <20060801162736.74591.qmail@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:27:36 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:27:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Jerry McAllister , tech.junk@verizon.net In-Reply-To: <200608011447.k71ElSm5009515@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:30:43 +0000 Cc: Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:27:39 -0000 --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Joshua Lewis wrote: > > > > > > Would I be better off just going with Gnome > or KDE? I realize once I > > > start installing apps that I will probably > wind up installing > > > something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so > I am going to wind up > > > bloating my system any ways right? > > > > > > > Look at them both and make a choice if you like > either. > > I tried both in the past, but found they were not > for me for various > > reasons, so I went looking, also tried Xfce as > has been mentioned, but > > I decided I wanted to try something really > different from things that > > seemed Windows like. > > > > Tried WindowMaker and have been using it now for a > long time. Here is > > the url www.windowmaker.info if you are > interested. > > As you requested lean and fast, little slow > getting started, only > > because it is very different in the approach of > say Gnome, KDE, or Xfce, > > but once you get used to it, works great. I also > like dock apps, which > > you can get more info at http://dockapps.org/ > > Gee, I just use AfterStep. Of course, that isn't > really an MS-Win > environment replacement. It doesn't even attempt to > be. But then I > really do not want to have the look and feel of > MS-Win. I want something > more straight-forward and less icky. > > ////jerry > > > Good Luck, > > Sean This is a good point here. Whereas it's good to have something familiar for immediate productivity, it's also good to explore different options to experience benefits/drawbacks that you hadn't considered before. In *nix (includind BSD's and Linux), you're not limited to one window manager. You can install several and use whichever matches your mood at the time. I used to use KDE and Gnome simply because the menus contained so many applications that were new to me. Once I knew which applications I wanted to use, I switched to XFCE because it's faster. I still use XFCE for my office productivity; but I'm still experimenting with icewm and windowmaker on an older computer because they "feel" so much faster. Definitely choose a window manager that will give you a positive experience now; but take time to browse *nix's other offerings. If you don't try new things, how can you make an informed decision? Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:37:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C14F16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1522B43D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:37:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so352652wxd for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ph43cZ1C/ZVTZYvJj1/3Ig/t0ow6qJtml6NbXghm3kp0vd3oXTzx2M6t1XmxMzY2lR5Bpu0mT6sgclXHTFjinTMhHbci91le95id3vfG9K0yCb3o3DaBKZ46hcLeuMdSy/rFD9UWQMmM6TTFU/ZU1EQv0b6aihoB56tQvhcmyL0= Received: by 10.78.193.19 with SMTP id q19mr383107huf; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:37:21 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:37:28 -0000 On 8/1/06, Robert Huff wrote: > User Freebsd writes: > > Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as > > soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need > > to do something like: > > > > ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 > > > > since the 'ether' would never change ... > > At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the > MAC address .... > > > You still don't get it! Maybe this simple perl program will illustrate the problem: my $number = "100000000000000000000"; my $randomkey = ""; while (0 == 0) { $randomkey = `echo $number | md5`; print "fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey"; $number++ } Also by using only the mac address output of ifconfig you have limited the pool of unique keys to 16^12 (281,474,976,710,656)!!! All I need to do to find your mac address is compute all possible mac address combinations into MD5 and then just simply match it up with yours. Anonymity only works if the input is large then the output!!! Because it's computationally impossible to compute all values of a 500+ byte string etc. etc. The MD5 string maps back to at least (how do you compute the collisions?) two SHA256 keys and the SHA256 maps back to at least two ifconfig strings. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:41:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F9016A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5037843D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:41:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1020422pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YRz3/yP+rUgLc+ROy6ZMTM3hi8oCZaKa/aAyQbWX0qZwwIhcglE9pPGpJ2kHYmiBOFx4a+GFlMiyD+B/lH0PAFsIKIJXqWNfKuHAW++7wWJgcl6Z12EFuk4SFNrvVjBwrpI9sp7kCjylUMHApO8dbgKqYVw30q/qmUd3IP83OqU= Received: by 10.35.60.16 with SMTP id n16mr6064872pyk; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Running Windows Server in a VM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:41:05 -0000 Simple question: Has anybody had any success running Windows Server 2003 in a VM on FreeBSD? If so, which VM product did you use? -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:44:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEA516A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7FB43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [10.35.4.65] (65.4-35-10-static.chueca.wifi [10.35.4.65]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01A82E024; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44CF9305.7050907@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:44:37 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Organization: Locolomo.ORG User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freminlins References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030207080402030607070802" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:44:48 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030207080402030607070802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Freminlins wrote: > You made the point with reference to security, not system recovery. That > is what I am contradicting. Security is often misunderstood to mean protecting against unauthorized access. But this is only part of information security. You need to protect your information assets such as to ensure continuity of business operations, and this covers: * Confidentiality * Integrity * Availability The last two evidently have to do with data and system recovery, and this was the question being raised in OP. Which is more important depends on the data. In some cases unauthorized disclosure is less costly than downtime. The security professional evaluates the potential losses for each breach against the cost of protecting against that breach. Integrity of the base installation is important because it ensures integrity of the base system against the most common failures - say power out, and provides for faster recovery of systems hence addressing availability - and not to mention it is cheap! If you configure your server using LDAP or NIS for user management then you only need to mount the root file system rw when updating the base system or changing root password. Add the MAC and you will likely be able to protect further against the attack you mention. 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m2so1500134uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:45:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=helXNh32XX8qFHA6tnlGvKwOVt3DRAnU5LqQ9pI91YrcGD5KK6wmEUCBs8x0FSxyTv+16jTLE+O/V1JLRBjobM/sDEIGwQII1Vb+V9vt9i7N2CEQeQl4gWu4L70skdu6ajROqTnUX/cbWbIxK25eZlxiUg7yAsB1/sFugcYHqUw= Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr1358886ugi; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:45:44 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: samba3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:45:48 -0000 Hello All, Just tried to install samba3 from ports ( yes i just updated ports with portsnap) and i got this error: ===> samba-3.0.23,1 broken IPC and code. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. *** Error code 1 Whats up with it? Thankx. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:51:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E96716A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0468B43D5C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7yPC-0003xD-AJ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:51:46 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <329A30C1-E306-42AE-98A6-00B5D2C756A1@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:51:45 -0600 To: Scott Long X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:51:47 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Scott Long wrote: > Second, various Adaptec sources have confirmed that they do support > FreeBSD. There are new drivers for the 22300SLP for example (though one person replied to me privately and said they crash all the time). However, what they claim as support is not really support. There is no updated driver for older 2200s family cards, no updated management apps, no management apps for new cards (2230SLP has a driver from Adaptec, but no management or reporting app which makes it almost useless)... When you call Adaptec and tell them you are on FreeBSD, even if the issue is in their firmware, they don't want to talk to you (though they often still will -- my issue a year or two ago they did work on after telling me it wasn't supported)... Best regards Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 17:52:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AA216A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1154886729.6e1beb@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E03143D55 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david+dated+1154886729.6e1beb@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71HqAHX025860 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:52:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1154886729.6e1beb@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k71Hq9lu025859 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david+dated+1154886729.6e1beb@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1154886729.6e1beb@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:52:09 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: David Banning X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) Cc: Subject: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:52:12 -0000 I am installing a new server and have to copy many files from old server to new. I have connected a windows box to each via samba, and am dragging from one to the other via the windows box. This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy -directly- from one fbsd box to another? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:07:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AB216A4F3 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A5E43F14 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:04:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:04:33 -0400 id 00056419.44CF97B1.000124E2 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 14:01:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:04:33 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: David Banning Message-Id: <20060801140433.f27bb1cb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> References: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:07:02 -0000 In response to David Banning : > I am installing a new server and have to copy many files from old server > to new. I have connected a windows box to each via samba, and am dragging > from one to the other via the windows box. > > This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? Usually NFS or scp. There are other choices, though. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:31:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B829016A4E2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BA643D6E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:31:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k71IVRuv006102; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:31:09 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> <20060801140433.f27bb1cb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801140433.f27bb1cb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608011431.09443.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: David Banning Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:31:35 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:04, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to David Banning : > > I am installing a new server and have to copy many files from old server > > to new. I have connected a windows box to each via samba, and am dragging > > from one to the other via the windows box. > > > > This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy > > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? > > Usually NFS or scp. There are other choices, though. For many situations my favorite is tar+netcat (w/ optional bzip2 compression). On the destination host: cd /some/path nc -l 1234 | tar -xjvf - And on the source host: cd /some/path tar -cjvf - relative/path/to/source/dir | nc destip 1234 If you don't want compression leave out the 'j' flag in both calls to tar. scp is your best bet if you need encryption though (take note of the -r and -C flags). JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:35:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3403B16A4F5 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FEC43D77 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1036458pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:35:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=sZdn4OTsBy7ddfklJpt0D9fxnZPD0EWoSVVUB6FGkzDnX/uxroPd+k5zLqKLf9O0t8SMM9znqV1sJrn4uDjRA8CfDZ0tkGpJmiAcP0o/4+C+Q9OQ7taA3scKSiWxBguER4woPoymH+VtW9kKwWQHv4vCcvW3sZhLqp2Zby3i3vY= Received: by 10.35.57.5 with SMTP id j5mr6125484pyk; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.93.8 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <146805bd0608011135r2be2ad30j30af78f861506eea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:35:24 +0400 From: "Eugeny Kuzakov" Sender: eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com To: "Igor Robul" In-Reply-To: <20060729125814.GB9478@sysadm.stc> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <146805bd0607100212o70f5b843ocdadead8d178f931@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20060710062547.025a0478@mail.computinginnovations.com> <146805bd0607111038t7eb386efnec0ff176aab22cfd@mail.gmail.com> <20060729125814.GB9478@sysadm.stc> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6b83a2c925dc7c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chipest real hardware raid for FreeBSD&Windows XP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:35:35 -0000 On 7/29/06, Igor Robul wrote: Hi, Igor&All. > > On 7/10/06, Derek Ragona wrote: > > Firstly I asked chipest HARDWARE raid.... MB doesn't has contained > hardware > Why dont you wish use geom_mirror if 3Ware card is expensive for you? Because I hoped buy (at least not true hardware) raid adapter on which I can create some logical device(fat32 contained more than 100Gb of mp3's&films), which will clear visible under windows xp and FreeBSD. My girl prefers windows, I -- FreeBSD:) But each other of us likes music:) My summary: - true hardware raids like 3ware is expensive for me for home. - external software raid or simple sataII/sata300 controllers have same problem: there are no stable drivers for FreeBSD I have played w/ sil3112(wow!!!!:)) and Promise...:( At the moment I playing w/ Promise SATAII TX2plus(it's just controller card)... I have setuped gmirror. But driver has stability problem. (I have tried 6.1-stable, today I upgraded my home box to -current). Sometimes I see setfeatures messages warnings and i/o stops on disks, connected to promise controller. I will investigate it then send bugreports to hardware@.... Thank you. -- Best wishes, Coredumped. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:37:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2778A16A4E2 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kavery@macsema.com) Received: from cuda4.bendbroadband.com (cuda4.bendbroadband.com [216.228.160.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2709643D6A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kavery@macsema.com) Received: from productiona (bbb72-0-174-134.bendbroadband.com [72.0.174.134]) by cuda4.bendbroadband.com (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id 91CEE15BF64 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kelly Avery" To: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:37:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c6b599$9c7f9af0$6b00a8c0@productiona> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: Aca1mZxNNHVFd5w4T+G+2uzF6Llnow== X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Relay Firewall at bendbroadband.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: Samba3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:37:18 -0000 I ran into the same problem when I was installing it, and I found this answer: > You need to run 'make config' and uncheck AIO and SMBSH options. They > are broken at the moment and, possibly, won't even compile. > Alternatively, you can just run 'make rmconfig' and compile port with > the default settings. Taken from this page: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-July/033945.html Hope this helps! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:52:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013BC16A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11B43D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:52:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so360491nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XrooV+iQd9rD/R/F6tH/4oC0cClM8wVeMrnMYPDFVsAiD2dSrDMnFujMf1qARfTpqT4h2/lP73sL4mlemRS11eh494Rd/76zlQjTmZdvVjQIUsEoSyTdRXvOPIZn4Vd4l/N+uIKYIZ2anHqudJXshUQyBlAyaWuNT/N5SdgiIb8= Received: by 10.49.93.13 with SMTP id v13mr1250720nfl; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:52:19 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <17615.32884.347381.673377@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> <17615.32884.347381.673377@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:52:21 -0000 On 01/08/06, Robert Huff wrote: > On my system, "additional software" goes under the separate > partition /usr. Or are we using different definitions of > "additional"? /usr includes a large part of the base installation. /usr/local is the usual place for additional software, though you can of course install stuff where you want to. Robert Huff Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 18:57:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FB916A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF67943D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 13343 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2006 18:53:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 18:53:42 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 720C428422; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:57:15 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Harold Hartley Message-ID: <20060801185715.GB11226@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20060801172418.27423.qmail@web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060801172418.27423.qmail@web84006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ax25 in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:57:20 -0000 On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:24:18AM -0700, Harold Hartley wrote: > I'm wondering if the kernel is setup for using AX.25 > stuff with freebsd. No. With good reason that its not there. The best reason is, "It doesn't need to be in the kernel." At typical 1200 bits/sec, to less common 9600, to the exotic 56k, there is no urgency that requires service at the kernel level. Also a licensing requirement that one keep the unlicensed off the radio so its better to build the firewall+bridge into your ax25 layer. > And will I be able to use other hamradio apps I have > found in linux and be able to compile them to work in > freebsd as I usually run a hamradio gateway. (this is > why I ask). Time to visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/bsd-ham -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:02:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB55C16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AFB43D70 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:02:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:02:27 -0400 id 00056426.44CFA543.00012B01 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 14:58:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:02:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:02:29 -0000 I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a connection. (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). If my memory of Stevens is correct, this is something that's set at the OS level. It doesn't seem as if it's a configurable value, however. I guess I'm looking for confirmation on that point first. If that's the case, then I'll have to adjust my approach based on that knowledge. If it can be adjusted, can it be adjusted on a per-connection basis? I don't want to mess with timeouts on other sockets, _just_ this one monitoring script. And of course, the final question: how would I adjust this setting if it's possible? If it's a sysctl, I'm missing it ... Suggestions? -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:04:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6938116A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C554A43D70 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:04:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so363877nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mZrNZkxqIBwWwNjQShlZ9ex5/G8d20li6L3kqacuTYPTIVZOXbUlZ3j8fXohdHESSPiNSqgAggcVakBsJhS6AMzS2dYM/ZwlVRNveoQW2PlyatmOaKPQd3IKQmbxRao/xJJdPAjHSsSl/B+um6hayaY52OqMpKlD4Wwact27TMg= Received: by 10.49.19.18 with SMTP id w18mr1281995nfi; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:04:08 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?=" In-Reply-To: <44CF9305.7050907@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <44CEF9EB.3080807@locolomo.org> <44CF7279.5040504@locolomo.org> <44CF9305.7050907@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Tyler Spivey Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:04:18 -0000 On 01/08/06, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: If you configure your server using LDAP or NIS for user management then > you only need to mount the root file system rw when updating the base > system or changing root password. Add the MAC and you will likely be > able to protect further against the attack you mention. Or when you want to patch or install other software, unless you put /usr/local on its own partition. And put /usr/ports somewhere else. And don't tinker with anything in /etc/mail. I think we're just going to disagree on this. I have never yet seen a situation where mounting the OS disk ro proved to b= e useful. I have seen it hinder perfectly normal sysadmin work. I have seen one instance in 10 years where it would have stopped a silly mistake (someone moved libc on Solaris). But as that person was doing something they were supposed to be doing and just made a mistake, they woul= d have made the same mistake after mounting the disk rw if it had been mounte= d ro. Cheers, Erik Cheers, Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:13:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D327C16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DC43D6E for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k71JCwx01306; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <000401c6b59e$92d942d0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bill Moran" , References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:13:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:13:03 -0000 This is why the snmp protocol uses UDP, Bill. You need to use something other than TCP for monitoring. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Moran" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection > > I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because > the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a > connection. > > (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor > libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any > settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). > > If my memory of Stevens is correct, this is something that's set at the > OS level. It doesn't seem as if it's a configurable value, however. > I guess I'm looking for confirmation on that point first. If that's > the case, then I'll have to adjust my approach based on that knowledge. > > If it can be adjusted, can it be adjusted on a per-connection basis? I > don't want to mess with timeouts on other sockets, _just_ this one > monitoring script. > > And of course, the final question: how would I adjust this setting if > it's possible? If it's a sysctl, I'm missing it ... > > Suggestions? > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:21:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4689416A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0F743D9B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:21:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:21:06 -0400 id 00056419.44CFA9A2.00012CFB Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 15:17:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:21:07 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060801152107.eba203fa.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <000401c6b59e$92d942d0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <000401c6b59e$92d942d0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:21:37 -0000 In response to "Ted Mittelstaedt" : > This is why the snmp protocol uses UDP, Bill. > > You need to use something other than TCP for > monitoring. Well ... if I'm monitoring a server that uses TCP (PostgreSQL) I can't rightly establish whether or not it's successfully accepting connections unless I used TCP as well. I understand where you're coming from, but I can't see how I can use UDP to solve my problem. If I have to go back to management and say, "I can't get tighter granularity than 90s" then that's what I have to do. I'm just trying to do my research before I make that claim. In the long run, it's possible that I'll have to put together some sort of client/server monitoring model that has a component on each system, so that I have tighter control over things, but this initial version is required "right now", so I have to make do the best I can, then come back and improve it when there's time (probably over the next several months). If I were trying to make it perfect, I wouldn't have started with PHP ;). I'm using PHP because the development cycle is very fast. This gets me my "quick and dirty" solution, then I can take a little time to look into how to really do it right. I'm just trying to establish exactly how "dirty" it's going to be. Thanks for the input. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Moran" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:02 PM > Subject: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection > > > > > > I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because > > the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a > > connection. > > > > (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor > > libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any > > settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). > > > > If my memory of Stevens is correct, this is something that's set at the > > OS level. It doesn't seem as if it's a configurable value, however. > > I guess I'm looking for confirmation on that point first. If that's > > the case, then I'll have to adjust my approach based on that knowledge. > > > > If it can be adjusted, can it be adjusted on a per-connection basis? I > > don't want to mess with timeouts on other sockets, _just_ this one > > monitoring script. > > > > And of course, the final question: how would I adjust this setting if > > it's possible? If it's a sysctl, I'm missing it ... > > > > Suggestions? > > > > -- > > Bill Moran > > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:39:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A1416A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E217E43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:39:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 83340 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2006 19:39:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4fQE7kky303YQGson/cYGmMYHFvUqP+/UHIsZXPy6DBzkZpP1whuhusK/VToNwzV5hCVle5fRwW7Q9IQBSETWldA+eWsHAXdmkxhod6JEWZQZGGqKeZTTq4/1ggWqHogu3Q54wyhgme3hPoc7oKdgqn2Fnav47oZBceXnX3i/pA= ; Message-ID: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:39:45 CEST Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:39:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:39:47 -0000 Hi, I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this message for several months: sis0 watchdog timeout. The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and vr0 (10mb). The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got my attention. What does this mean? Thanks... Efren Bravo. ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZWZyZW5iYQ%3D%3D ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:44:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED40B16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7745243D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:44:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G80AQ-0001rj-OI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:44:38 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G80AQ-0000KV-7Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:44:38 +0100 Message-ID: <44CFAF22.7050905@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:44:34 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060731181038.4918.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:44:43 -0000 Gerard wrote: > "jan gestre" > >> it took almost 3 hours, i don't have X installed. i'm sending you the >> portmanager.log in private coz it might clutter the thread. > > You have a warning message listed here: > > Tue Aug 1 04:38:03 2006 > options changed so returning php4-mbstring-4.4.2_2 > /converters/php4-mbstring to out of date pool > > I have never seen the "options changed so returning ..." message before. > I am going to check an see if I can find out what it means. It seems to be when a port presents the blue Options screen. If you change anything (maybe even when you don't, not sure) portmanager gives that message. Unless there are other problems it seems to get back round to updating the port later in the run. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:46:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662BF16A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E2943D66 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:46:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780CFD93064 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:46:33 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: /xwZwCa/6Eo/V7xXOEed8rntlzHMmiOmoFEqf89mR9CC 1154461593 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112DD23F1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:46:32 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:46:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608012046.27359.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:46:31 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 12:20, Robert Huff wrote: > 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is > fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. Although it is used in high-volume mail services like fastmail.fm, tuffmail.com etc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:51:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F194C16A4E9 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233F43D5A for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k71Jorx01527; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002401c6b5a3$de991970$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "User Freebsd" , "Robert Huff" References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org><87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org><20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org><44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com><44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk><871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org><20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org><17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801131123.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:51:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:51:31 -0000 Why not just add in the patch in kern/65627 and run the CPU serial number through your hash? Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "User Freebsd" To: "Robert Huff" Cc: "Xiao-Yong Jin" ; "Nikolas Britton" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: > > > User Freebsd writes: > >> Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as > >> soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd need > >> to do something like: > >> > >> ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 > >> > >> since the 'ether' would never change ... > > > > At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the > > MAC address .... > > Man, we definitely don't make a unique host id an easy thing to > accomplish, do we? :) > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 19:59:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EF916A4E7 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B5643D55 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:59:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7F713C7D1; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:04:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1CA0E13C7D0; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:04:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9A513C7CF; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:04:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:04:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20060801150300.G11829@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:59:20 -0000 > I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because > the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a > connection. > > (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor > libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any > settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). http://www.php.net/fsockopen Last parameter is a timeout value... I'd imagine the other socket calls have something similar... whether or not it's honored I dunno, but it is there. Although maybe i'm misunderstanding the question. > > If my memory of Stevens is correct, this is something that's set at the > OS level. It doesn't seem as if it's a configurable value, however. > I guess I'm looking for confirmation on that point first. If that's > the case, then I'll have to adjust my approach based on that knowledge. > > If it can be adjusted, can it be adjusted on a per-connection basis? I > don't want to mess with timeouts on other sockets, _just_ this one > monitoring script. > > And of course, the final question: how would I adjust this setting if > it's possible? If it's a sysctl, I'm missing it ... > > Suggestions? > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:08:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238D316A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9229943D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:08:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k71K8fx01658; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <002901c6b5a6$5b07bc30$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bill Moran" , References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com><000401c6b59e$92d942d0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20060801152107.eba203fa.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:09:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:08:45 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Moran" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection > In response to "Ted Mittelstaedt" : > > > This is why the snmp protocol uses UDP, Bill. > > > > You need to use something other than TCP for > > monitoring. > > Well ... if I'm monitoring a server that uses TCP (PostgreSQL) I can't > rightly establish whether or not it's successfully accepting connections > unless I used TCP as well. > Then you absolutely don't want to change TCP timeouts because none of the clients are going to be running modified TCP timeouts, and if your timeout-modified system can connect, that does not tell you if a client running normal timeouts can also connect. > I understand where you're coming from, but I can't see how I can use > UDP to solve my problem. > check the system for if it's there or not with udp, if it is there, then check for availability of the sql listener port. Ted > If I have to go back to management and say, "I can't get tighter > granularity than 90s" then that's what I have to do. I'm just trying > to do my research before I make that claim. > > In the long run, it's possible that I'll have to put together some sort > of client/server monitoring model that has a component on each system, > so that I have tighter control over things, but this initial version > is required "right now", so I have to make do the best I can, then come > back and improve it when there's time (probably over the next several > months). If I were trying to make it perfect, I wouldn't have started > with PHP ;). I'm using PHP because the development cycle is very fast. > This gets me my "quick and dirty" solution, then I can take a little > time to look into how to really do it right. I'm just trying to > establish exactly how "dirty" it's going to be. > > Thanks for the input. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Moran" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:02 PM > > Subject: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection > > > > > > > > > > I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because > > > the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a > > > connection. > > > > > > (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor > > > libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any > > > settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). > > > > > > If my memory of Stevens is correct, this is something that's set at the > > > OS level. It doesn't seem as if it's a configurable value, however. > > > I guess I'm looking for confirmation on that point first. If that's > > > the case, then I'll have to adjust my approach based on that knowledge. > > > > > > If it can be adjusted, can it be adjusted on a per-connection basis? I > > > don't want to mess with timeouts on other sockets, _just_ this one > > > monitoring script. > > > > > > And of course, the final question: how would I adjust this setting if > > > it's possible? If it's a sysctl, I'm missing it ... > > > > > > Suggestions? > > > > > > -- > > > Bill Moran > > > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > > **************************************************************** > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for the individual named. 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The > sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or > omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a > result of e-mail transmission. > **************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:12:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9796616A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2E143D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so383878nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rMb75gHpRkT5Za/EnqS2Ko5c6XckuVCef3H61G+VHqzWHFiLNTbIkVnLDILrC28wRC9ZUJn/b19YaqJOUs6vXtR3l/z930x9DXPd2StL+Jbs57hIiOTmYRi1jYtTID/1KabzyytDSSaqj/MRUpEDO15Gj+paH7zWPl8s0Q0rvg8= Received: by 10.78.132.12 with SMTP id f12mr6855hud; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:12:07 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: <002401c6b5a3$de991970$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801131123.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> <002401c6b5a3$de991970$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:12:10 -0000 On 8/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Why not just add in the patch in kern/65627 and run the CPU serial number > through > your hash? Because you can still fake the dam thing, making the whole idea useless!!! Am I the only one that can see this ... what the hell people! I just showed you a working crack! Need to see it again?: my $number = "100000000000000000000"; my $randomkey = ""; while (0 == 0) { $randomkey = `echo $number | md5`; print "fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey"; $number++ } OUT: fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8b3fad8939670f85e0fce777cae8e0c fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=91e572785d190fec766a5b7caef16597 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8150443d9befbfba9ee6ca40af076e7 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=b1aefc59367a7d512104f2f63bf1afb8 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=bf883c70f506603c86c8785cca8eef5e fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=79e005d4f379e549eaff7106ede744b7 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=de09c238162dae88e9372102fe114be9 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=7ac8e65d693f525db9fabb061f15ac8b fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=14e16452a9bdff69e5177ee4de0631e0 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5432cc5903e4ff9b556561c5b553220b fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=263aaf7d4910cce7b66e2e4438d65ab2 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=083d41d985775a53c2ada0c66b1a7d4c fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=3e1b6b0b9c5c4d478b4a161c6e1c5d46 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=1aed1b7d4add59bedfd21df56e15cd90 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=233196bee8136806b7570532d1d34349 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=56753858102f51b756c93bd5c0dbfaa5 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=baea3619ea55ee516e3c556ffb7fd287 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=cf49ffbeb51fd9864386388a68f41059 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=f5c052e568711a4cb61890d7114d1f43 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5796f413c62eb369fa15c37fffb748f8 fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=4574ee7d3334a609c5b4de66f1527eca Surrounded by #$%^*$@ idiots. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:22:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E6816A4E1 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F336943D5F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:21:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost.dfwlp.com [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k71KLsqT022194 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:21:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from 167.246.36.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:21:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:21:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: need help troubleshooting man X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:22:02 -0000 i remember a thread from a few weeks back, that i followed closely, but was never able to resolve my issue as the original poster did. i have a 6.1-STABLE system that the bulk of my mans to not work, but some that are recently installed from ports are working. can someone guide me thru trouble shooting this issue? i have several other boxes that are RELENG, and they all ahve 100% working man pages, but this system (which is also my only system with x/kde) is the only one not working. [jhorne@athena ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD athena.dfwlp.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 16 20:48:52 CDT 2006 root@athena.int.dfwlp.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ATHENA i386 [jhorne@athena ~]$ man man No manual entry for man [jhorne@athena ~]$ man iftop IFTOP(8) IFTOP(8) NAME iftop - display bandwidth usage on an interface by host tia, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:31:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81A16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5494243D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:31:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G80tP-0004u5-GJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:07 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G80tO-00043H-NC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:06 +0100 Message-ID: <44CFBA09.3010108@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:31:05 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> <84b68b3d0607271127k175100d9sa3285fadc53e5369@mail.gmail.com> <20060728161300.M27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728223813.GA31151@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <70e8236f0607281842i7997f338i49d39f59f0177806@mail.gmail.com> <44CE888F.4050505@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <001001c6b51d$e724b760$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <001001c6b51d$e724b760$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:31:08 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be >> given active support > > See a need, fill a need. Since you can clearly see the person wasn't given > adequate information, then go ahead and give him the information. Unless > people like you and me and the rest of us ordinary users take responsibility > for these responses, a lot of them will fall through the cracks since the > developers have limited time to answer them. > > Nobody ever complained about being given too much information. > > Ted Ok I did. lets see what happens Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:34:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270E516A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: from smtp1.via.net (smtp1.via.net [209.81.9.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E64443D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joe@via.net) Received: from mail.via.net (mail.via.net [209.81.9.12]) by smtp1.via.net (8.13.3/8.12.11-VIANET) with ESMTP id k71KYdX5020288 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [209.81.2.10] (monk.via.net [209.81.2.10]) by mail.via.net (8.13.3/8.12.11-VIANET) with ESMTP id k71KYTI3015184 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: From: joe mcguckin Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:34:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1630/Tue Aug 1 08:38:56 2006 on smtp1.via.net X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1630/Tue Aug 1 08:38:56 2006 on mail.via.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp1.via.net [209.81.9.19]); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Will 'top' display cpu stats per cpu on SMP systems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:34:41 -0000 Similar to top on Linux ? e.g.: 13:33:24 up 174 days, 10:35, 1 user, load average: 7.32, 7.20, 7.13 216 processes: 208 sleeping, 8 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: cpu user nice system irq softirq iowait idle total 98.1% 0.0% 1.4% 0.0% 0.3% 0.0% 0.0% cpu00 97.0% 0.0% 1.7% 0.1% 0.9% 0.0% 0.0% cpu01 98.0% 0.0% 1.7% 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% cpu02 98.8% 0.0% 0.9% 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% cpu03 98.6% 0.0% 1.3% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% Mem: 4099444k av, 1625788k used, 2473656k free, 0k shrd, 178204k buff 1218460k active, 94940k inactive Swap: 8193108k av, 0k used, 8193108k free 349840k cached Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications joe@via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 20:44:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3716A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A9143D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k71Kibmt044720; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:44:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:44:37 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: DAve Message-ID: <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> References: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:44:38 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 01), DAve said: > We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've been > watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. But > looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of piperd. Piperd means the process is waiting on a read from a pipe. You can use lsof to determine what process is at the other end of the pipe (run lsof, find your process, find the PIPE fd, then find the other process with the same 0xXXXXXXXX value). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 21:06:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D8D16A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797C43D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:06:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1596654uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.103.17 with SMTP id f17mr122285qbm; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q19sm2115550qbq.2006.08.01.14.05.58; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D191EB9F7 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Seibert X-X-Sender: ges@seibercom.net To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gerard Seibert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:06:01 -0000 FreeBSD 6.1 The printer on my system is connected to a WinXP machine. I installed apsfilter to configure the print setup. Everything appears to be working and I can print to the printer from within apsfilter. However, when I attempt to print either from the command line or from within KDE, I receive this error message: lpr: Error - scheduler not responding! I cannot find out what is causing it. I even did a reboot but the message continues. I Googled for a solution but they all seemed to involve cups and I do not want to install that if not necessary. I had another machine configured similar to this but using FBSD 5.4 that worked just fine. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net It is exactly because a man cannot do a thing that he is a proper judge of it. Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 21:21:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6F516A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC18B43D55 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:21:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k71LLi6h021210; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:21:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:21:44 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20060801212144.GH63872@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <000401c6b59e$92d942d0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20060801152107.eba203fa.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060801152107.eba203fa.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:21:49 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 01), Bill Moran said: > In response to "Ted Mittelstaedt" : > > This is why the snmp protocol uses UDP, Bill. > > > > You need to use something other than TCP for > > monitoring. > > Well ... if I'm monitoring a server that uses TCP (PostgreSQL) I > can't rightly establish whether or not it's successfully accepting > connections unless I used TCP as well. What I do is ping the target server first, with a small (1s) timeout. If the ping fails, I don't try the TCP socket. If the ping succeeds, I know the TCP connection will either complete or fail immediately. Another option is to do non-blocking connects to as many servers as you have fds available, and select()/poll()/kqueue() for the results. that way at least you're checking other machines while waiting for the few dead ones. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 21:25:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C6216A4DE for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD0743D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:25:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:25:12 -0400 id 00056405.44CFC6B8.00013C92 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 17:21:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:25:13 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060801172513.4fc802ab.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801150300.G11829@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20060801150226.0c911297.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20060801150300.G11829@bravo.pjkh.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Reducing the timeout on a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:25:13 -0000 In response to Philip Hallstrom : > > I'm writing some monitoring scripts, and I'm having some trouble because > > the TCP seems to wait 90 seconds before giving up on initiating a > > connection. > > > > (The script is in PHP, testing a PostgreSQL database. Neither PHP nor > > libpq (which PHP's PostgreSQL support is based on) seem to have any > > settings that can be used to adjust this timeout). > > http://www.php.net/fsockopen > > Last parameter is a timeout value... I'd imagine the other socket calls > have something similar... whether or not it's honored I dunno, but it is > there. > > Although maybe i'm misunderstanding the question. Thanks, Philip. Between your and Ted's advice, I've decided to do a three- tiered test. 1) I test to see if I can establish a socket with fsockopen, with a fairly short timeout. This gives me a quick response in the event of a total failure that takes the server offline. 2) I then test using pg_connect() which has (apparently) a 90s timeout, but gives me more thorough testing in case PG is running, but misbehaving. 3) Finally I execute a simple but telling SQL query that will give me a cursory feel for whether the data in the datbase is healthy. This gives me a lot of config values for various timeouts and the ability to check for several scenarios (from total HW failure, to PostgreSQL going bonkers) with configurable reaction times. Further testing should help me to understand what numbers make good timeouts for the various stages. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 22:15:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4A16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: from shell.dhp.com (shell.dhp.com [199.245.105.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23B043D58 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@dhp.com) Received: by shell.dhp.com (Postfix, from userid 896) id 396FE31357; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Ensel Sharon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: static linked python from the ports tree - possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:15:17 -0000 For a variety of reasons (long, hard to explain) I need a static python binary - with no external libraries. I know how to do this from source. However, I would like to install from the ports tree - what line can I run inside of /usr/ports/lang/python to get a totally static, standalone python binary ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 22:24:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE78F16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from usenet.ath.cx (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0D443D49 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:24:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (testbox.usenet.ath.cx [10.0.0.3]) by usenet.ath.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k71MOjZT099472; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:24:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <44CFD4AE.8070305@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:24:46 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerard Seibert References: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> X-Html-In-Email: No X-Html-In-Usenet: No X-Accept-Language: Svenska Sign Engelska Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:24:56 -0000 Gerard Seibert wrote: > FreeBSD 6.1 > > The printer on my system is connected to a WinXP machine. I installed > apsfilter to configure the print setup. Everything appears to be working > and I can print to the printer from within apsfilter. > > However, when I attempt to print either from the command line or from > within KDE, I receive this error message: > > lpr: Error - scheduler not responding! Do you have the lpr daemon (lprd) running? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 22:27:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167F016A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D6243D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:27:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1633167uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=l+lrKcU1D+mnxrJoDoS4LIgKbDh1TwwJleRU7iWSZ+l4Ltlpk0r48XMLtqdc9PYfL5K329f8wuv/BChV74gg2r3koOD9HvXw3Lm/53+XlRqe7fG/0QgYo6RrLoaiWkf6lQL/pHBStCFDzaXZlitBIQXWiEmZ/qK4akSbgyv1hEg= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr250664ugl; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id y1sm5316578uge.2006.08.01.15.27.17; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:27:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Atom Powers" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:26:52 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1255727.tQp9J6oOa6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608020127.09774.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Running Windows Server in a VM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:27:20 -0000 --nextPart1255727.tQp9J6oOa6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary-01=_tU9zE4olXBPQTdZ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --Boundary-01=_tU9zE4olXBPQTdZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:41, Atom Powers wrote: > Simple question: Has anybody had any success running Windows Server > 2003 in a VM on FreeBSD? > > If so, which VM product did you use? Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition run under QEMU 0.8.1 fine. (FreeBSD= =20 6.1-STABLE) =2D- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B --Boundary-01=_tU9zE4olXBPQTdZ-- --nextPart1255727.tQp9J6oOa6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEz9U9hLjVFCVp0wsRAqkqAKDeE0zONp6/kKQX9xEsdT+qxFIyDQCgpjMY SO4znMvDh2rhbQIyYDVXSCM= =U/d7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1255727.tQp9J6oOa6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 22:26:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26A516A4DA for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girish1729@yahoo.com) Received: from web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6BA543D7F for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girish1729@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26425 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2006 22:26:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RTYJALjxccFGaLH28cMaA6ZkL1mTntd0bYVTzOmp8BnQ7GQ4SlS12ls9/MtniPQEq1Ma4cysb94tBZtC57Akby8fIKqMcy1JkGCCd8kmJW0I9eFPceG0jFiH78L4nvVBXl14MMSNwVHLGyhmIPcuhiV0SZ9hWYluhe8Hf0ewZOU= ; Message-ID: <20060801222604.26423.qmail@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [59.92.37.181] by web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:26:04 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 15:26:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Girish Venkatachalam To: Efren Bravo , freeBSD In-Reply-To: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:59:35 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:26:11 -0000 --- Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this > message for several months: sis0 watchdog > timeout. > > The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and > vr0 (10mb). > > The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got > my attention. What does this mean? I am afraid you aren't gonna like this. AFAIK watchdog is some kind of a heartbeat monitoring done at the hardware level just to make sure that ur hardware is fine. So the watchdog has a timer that will expire in case the hardware does not send this heartbeat every few seconds or so. So it is not good news if your ethernet cards report that since it normally means the hardware is defective; however since everything else works for you it may be time to change your card yet. I hope I am wrong. Can someone correct me? Best, Girish > > Thanks... > > Efren Bravo. > ----- > Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. > http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZWZyZW5iYQ%3D%3D > > > > ______________________________________________ > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. > Llamadas a fijos y m�viles desde 1 c�ntimo por > minuto. > http://es.voice.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 23:30:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535AA16A4E0 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D80743D4C for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:30:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1656763uge for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.84.6 with SMTP id m6mr387159qbl; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 1sm3181932qbh.2006.08.01.16.30.08; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1B5B816 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:30:29 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <44CFAF22.7050905@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> References: <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> <44CFAF22.7050905@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060801191054.950F.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:30:12 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > It seems to be when a port presents the blue Options screen. If you > change anything (maybe even when you don't, not sure) portmanager gives > that message. Unless there are other problems it seems to get back round > to updating the port later in the run. Interesting! I had not seen that message before. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 23:37:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E016A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A98D43D46; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:37:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from alpha.home (ppp150-165.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net [59.167.150.165]) by ash25e.internode.on.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k71NbWHn059428; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:07:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:07:31 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Joseph Gleason , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:37:35 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:10 am, Joseph Gleason wrote: > Is it possible to reach two hosts via two interfaces that are > both on the same subnet? > > Example: > em0: 172.20.0.1/16 > em1: 172.20.0.2/16 > > And I want to reach 172.20.0.3 via em0 and 172.20.0.4 via em1. > > From 'netstat -nr' I see a line like this: > 172.20/14 link#1 UC 0 0 > em0 > > This seems to say that anything on 172.20/14 should be reached > on em0. Is it possible to add a rule that says that 172.20.0.4 > should be reachable on em1? > I have no personal experience of doing this, but it seems to me you should be able to achieve your objective by using a specific netmask with ifconfig rather than the CIDR / notation: 172.20.0.1/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 172.20.0.2/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 Then as I understand it odd numbered addresses should be reached via 172.20.0.1 and even numbered addresses via 172.20.0.2 > I only care about the path of outbound packets. I don't care > which interface inbound traffic comes on. > > I am well aware that this is a fairly strange thing to do. > > My objective is to have a FreeBSD box balance outbound traffic > between two NICs, while being able to select from among many > routers that could be the default gateway and having the two > NICs connect to different switches for fault tolerance. (I > would do the fault tolerance via a watchdog script of some > sort) > > If it weren't for the many routers aspect, it would be > reasonable to create separate subnets. I need to be able to > select from a group of around 10 possible default gateways and > some of those routers I do not control so adding a subnet > would be trouble. I would expect that subnets in the routers would not be an issue so long as they encompass those set in ifconfig. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 23:37:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E016A4DA; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ash25e.internode.on.net (ash25e.internode.on.net [203.16.214.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A98D43D46; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:37:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from alpha.home (ppp150-165.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net [59.167.150.165]) by ash25e.internode.on.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k71NbWHn059428; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:07:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:07:31 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Joseph Gleason , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:37:35 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:10 am, Joseph Gleason wrote: > Is it possible to reach two hosts via two interfaces that are > both on the same subnet? > > Example: > em0: 172.20.0.1/16 > em1: 172.20.0.2/16 > > And I want to reach 172.20.0.3 via em0 and 172.20.0.4 via em1. > > From 'netstat -nr' I see a line like this: > 172.20/14 link#1 UC 0 0 > em0 > > This seems to say that anything on 172.20/14 should be reached > on em0. Is it possible to add a rule that says that 172.20.0.4 > should be reachable on em1? > I have no personal experience of doing this, but it seems to me you should be able to achieve your objective by using a specific netmask with ifconfig rather than the CIDR / notation: 172.20.0.1/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 172.20.0.2/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 Then as I understand it odd numbered addresses should be reached via 172.20.0.1 and even numbered addresses via 172.20.0.2 > I only care about the path of outbound packets. I don't care > which interface inbound traffic comes on. > > I am well aware that this is a fairly strange thing to do. > > My objective is to have a FreeBSD box balance outbound traffic > between two NICs, while being able to select from among many > routers that could be the default gateway and having the two > NICs connect to different switches for fault tolerance. (I > would do the fault tolerance via a watchdog script of some > sort) > > If it weren't for the many routers aspect, it would be > reasonable to create separate subnets. I need to be able to > select from a group of around 10 possible default gateways and > some of those routers I do not control so adding a subnet > would be trouble. I would expect that subnets in the routers would not be an issue so long as they encompass those set in ifconfig. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 23:44:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D435D16A4DD for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7394F43D45 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:44:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.55] (HELO mx3.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 341241526 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:44:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 32513 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2006 23:44:06 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by mx3.av-mx.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 23:44:06 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:44:05 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:44:09 -0000 I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail created jail environment. Here's what happens: trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 ... test% xclock X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the lists a while back, but it didn't change anything. Host is: trisha# uname -a FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #1: Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 1 23:52:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F38A16A4DF for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C7343D46 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:52:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E904D92F9B for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:52:29 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: MhNZce4wGQa25tDkDEXqu+rfG642Ir0nShC33Mc69Q/9 1154476349 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685123044 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:52:29 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:52:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:52:28 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:39, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this > message for several months: sis0 watchdog > timeout. > > The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and > vr0 (10mb). > > The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got > my attention. What does this mean? from sis(4) sis%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the net- work, or there is a problem with the network connection (e.g. a cable fault). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:00:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1CC16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A85143D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (monrovll-cuda1-24-53-251-44.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.251.44]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:00:43 -0400 id 00056419.44CFEB2B.0001453C Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:00:42 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20060801200042.8af51559.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> References: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:00:44 -0000 RW wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:39, Efren Bravo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this > > message for several months: sis0 watchdog > > timeout. > > > > The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and > > vr0 (10mb). > > > > The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got > > my attention. What does this mean? > > from sis(4) > sis%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the net- > work, or there is a problem with the network connection (e.g. a cable > fault). I've seen this frequently with sis cards. My opinion is that all sis cards are cheapo crap, and watchdog timer is a workaround to try to make them work in spite of being crap. I've seen sis cards in Windows machines and they perform lousy there as well. But I'm no expert ... I could be wrong. -- Bill Moran MAL: Hell, this job I would pull for free. ZOE: Can I have your share? MAL: No. ZOE: If you die, can I have your share? MAL: Yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:05:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4079416A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F6843D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:05:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7205jiB066894; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:05:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:05:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: David Banning In-Reply-To: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> Message-ID: <20060801200327.L84775@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:05:50 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, David Banning wrote: > This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? Last time I had to do this I used wget. Maybe not lickety-split for large amounts of data, but it was painless and I did not have to pay any attention once I got it going. I like the fact that it will recurse into directories. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:07:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1138416A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0455A43D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:07:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G84GU-000NpB-7J; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:07:10 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <974320D7-3E87-4D57-9A79-BD3ED46D1B0C@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:07:09 -0600 To: Micah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:07:12 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Micah wrote: > > I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail > created jail environment. Here's what happens: > > trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 > ... > test% xclock > X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Are you doing an su or something before you run the X program? I have not had problems launching X programs in side a jail over ssh but I did get that same error when I did an su first since I was no longer my username. I copied the .Xauthority over from my user into ~root and it worked. (In case anyone asks, I was testing a system management app that needs to run as root to access some stuff and I was just testing it for someone. I don't normally run X things at all or as root ) Chad > X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > > I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the > lists a while back, but it didn't change anything. > > Host is: > trisha# uname -a > FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 > #1: Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/ > usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 > > Thanks, > Micah > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:18:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C0316A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zope@2012.vi) Received: from efit.xs4all.nl (efit.xs4all.nl [82.92.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C06A43D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:18:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zope@2012.vi) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (dpc67143135132.direcpc.com [67.143.135.132]) by efit.xs4all.nl (Weasel v1.73) for ; 02 Aug 2006 02:15:35 Message-ID: <44CFEF50.2090403@2012.vi> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:18:24 -0400 From: beno User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Adding To Path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:18:47 -0000 Hi; I went to set env of my path to add another folder. Everything *seemed* to work fine (it added, I checked) until I shelled out and back in. Then it was gone! Here's what I tried: FreeBSD 5.3 September 1, 1999 FreeBSD 5.3 server167# echo $shell /bin/csh server167# echo $path /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin server167# server167# setenv PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin/ezmlm server167# echo $path /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin /usr/local/bin/ezmlm server167# exit $ su Password: server167# echo $path /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin So, what happened to my ezmlm dir? Please help. TIA, beno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:23:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84CC16A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279E543D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so451527nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:23:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=r6AkJTRW3gBQO5W83L+1QaX8Yv135CIOTBgDnigdjJs9zSDUySdisMXyl2zaNWPnVt9Sj+KruwGz+urIVOZLN+hQvAJRjZFf6TrmOpUEqm7UYdXBk4g274ktgdsJ8agb5fZEAmFqaSrDiNurE68iNN+c52a1s1VQBFLjTnwnj3k= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr94763hub; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:23:38 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:23:42 -0000 The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other stupid problem with the cables. I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for shielded cables? frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:47:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E8116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E251343D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so457406nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:47:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aD2XVaRbpHFypO4KZNb5IGAX6mcqPnWPWBUYVOcywvSIQiGQWsdtR1hqarF+kmK2JjbBo40uD4gswBKH4/OLrj3crOElsWcSln4/CywvDea9dWL6GPsdkEnBkj3MLCci8pEFdRm/ild6TOuSk99OB0XNBDSF/+T8IJ0GwquFyDE= Received: by 10.78.107.8 with SMTP id f8mr100314huc; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:47:39 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: gerard@seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060731181038.4918.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:47:41 -0000 On 8/1/06, Gerard wrote: > > "jan gestre" > > > it took almost 3 hours, i don't have X installed. i'm sending you the > > portmanager.log in private coz it might clutter the thread. > > You have a warning message listed here: > > Tue Aug 1 04:38:03 2006 > options changed so returning php4-mbstring-4.4.2_2 > /converters/php4-mbstring to out of date pool > > I have never seen the "options changed so returning ..." message before. > I am going to check an see if I can find out what it means. > > In the mean time, have your tried running pkgdb -F and just deleting the > bad references? By the way, is this a fresh install, or has it been up > for awhile? Did you ever delete any packages from the system? > > the box's running for almost 2 months now setup as webmail server, the > only thing i removed was the linux compatible applications since i have no > plans of installing linux. i ran pkgdb -F and pkgdb -fu to no avail, after > doing cvsup this morning, ran portsdb -Uu, i still see those message looking > for packages that wasn't even installed. i don't see any strange behavior > for the server except those mentioned here. could these be detrimental? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:49:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6B516A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E46743D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so457875nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GisyuKz/amK7rF5gPCRj6OA0Bk+w1d9m9YlDwtdEmwUz/QfDRi9JhkuXyCatbBRiGtDiQgNVjP/Lq7r+QCcaSYu3FKDqxdvapbR8ZYCSO6nlji7Y0PiRqOZMm2hwm8gKfLPe8v8zGzprLXHCEeQjU5R9URsW0cyAQUPYeZ3kVPA= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr92550hud; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:49:44 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "Ivan Levchenko" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:49:46 -0000 On 8/2/06, Ivan Levchenko wrote: > > Hello All, > > Just tried to install samba3 from ports ( yes i just updated ports > with portsnap) and i got this error: > > > ===> samba-3.0.23,1 broken IPC and code. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3. > *** Error code 1 > > Whats up with it? > > try run pkgdb -fu and try to install again samba > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 00:59:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFE916A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6428143D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mO8iwgPNq8//uckb5DpprzIIpf5p3Zz2rpxIY/eeRsuCPfHWeYYDDvSMVc5UaEzI; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.174.200] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1G855K-0005sT-Jp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: <034901c6b5ce$f05a2d90$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:59:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120deb27ca0a0305d4520084e669ea3990920051ac9cf5697fb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.174.200 Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:59:48 -0000 From: "Nikolas Britton" > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > stupid problem with the cables. > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > shielded cables? > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. First google hit "SATA-II cable specification": http://www.satacable.com/ Second google site hit http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2076134&CatId=84 I've done business with Tiger Direct. They were prompt for delivery. Searching for things on their site was annoying, though. Adding "site:newegg" to the search gives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812207001 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812162003 First has a right angle connector. You were saying? {^_^} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:05:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690CA16A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C78743D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:05:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7215OS3031743 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:05:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:05:23 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608012005.23994.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:05:27 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 19:23, Nikolas Britton wrote: > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > stupid problem with the cables. > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > shielded cables? > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. when i built my computer 2 years ago, i went for sata drives for the first time. my intial impression was "wow... is that actually going to stay connected?" jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:18:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD04216A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au) Received: from mail98.messagelabs.com (mail98.messagelabs.com [216.82.244.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F356E43D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-98.messagelabs.com!1154481529!38400725!11 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=acpmagazines.com.au,-,- X-Originating-IP: [203.48.97.132] Received: (qmail 30643 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 01:18:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acphofexc02.acp.net) (203.48.97.132) by server-13.tower-98.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 01:18:56 -0000 Received: from acphofexc08.acp.net ([10.68.120.65]) by acphofexc02.acp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:18:41 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:18:41 +1000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD Thread-Index: Aca10ZbmsiMzIcXvTJS2ue5OO/xq0g== From: "Warne, Dan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2006 01:18:41.0596 (UTC) FILETIME=[97305FC0:01C6B5D1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Tim Gaden , workmail@danwarne.com, grog@lemis.com Subject: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:18:59 -0000 Hi=20all, =20 One=20of=20my=20journalists=20recently=20wrote=20an=20interesting=20story=20= on=20the=20NTFS-3g project=20that=20is=20promising=20a=20fully=20OSS=20solution=20for=20readi= ng=20-and=20writing- to=20NTFS=20partitions. =20 I=20am=20personally=20a=20Mac=20OS=20X=20user=20and=20I=20don't=20have=20a= =20Linux/Unix=20background so=20I=20wonder=20if=20you=20can=20advise:=20how=20viable=20would=20it=20b= e=20to=20implement NTFS-3g=20into=20FreeBSD?=20 =20 More=20specifically=20I'm=20wondering=20whether=20Apple=20could=20easily=20= implement=20it into=20Darwin,=20therefore=20providing=20NTFS=20write=20support=20for=20OS= =20X.=20 =20 Cheers Dan Dan=20Warne=20|=20news=20and=20online=20editor=20|=20APC=20Magazine=20| dwarne@acpmagazines.com.au=20|=20http://apcmag.com=20=20= Address=20for=20couriers:=20APC=20Magazine,=20L9=20175-183=20Castlereagh=20= St,=20Sydney ACP=20Magazines=20Limited=20|=20Publishing=20and=20Broadcasting=20Limited =20 _____________________________________________________________________=20 The=20information=20contained=20in=20this=20e-mail=20communication=20may=20= be=20 confidential.=20You=20should=20only=20read,=20disclose,=20re-transmit,=20c= opy,=20 distribute,=20act=20in=20reliance=20on=20or=20commercialise=20the=20inform= ation=20if=20 you=20are=20authorised=20to=20do=20so.=20If=20you=20are=20not=20the=20inte= nded=20recipient=20of=20 this=20e-mail=20communication,=20please=20immediately=20notify=20the=20sen= der=20by=20 e-mail=20and=20then=20destroy=20any=20electronic=20or=20paper=20copy=20of=20= this=20message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:24:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923FB16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA67043D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:24:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so466288nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WwxN8slRJ2TlKXOrR1Se3JAJi6npIfBH+Cgw/J+TlsjrII5xprO0kS1gnJ+B95bNztSe1n22fh6CfJNb8RySAy89dcKb8NH8I9HBt0eUnA/SiwJ+a9iO/kp0oAXuXLsN53RGcEF5Klsony/SpeO8+dfcj0nQ5IOIC/D67DIIJGw= Received: by 10.78.123.4 with SMTP id v4mr103782huc; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:24:03 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: jdow In-Reply-To: <034901c6b5ce$f05a2d90$0225a8c0@Wednesday> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <034901c6b5ce$f05a2d90$0225a8c0@Wednesday> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:24:06 -0000 On 8/1/06, jdow wrote: > From: "Nikolas Britton" > > > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > > stupid problem with the cables. > > > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > > shielded cables? > > > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > > First google hit "SATA-II cable specification": > http://www.satacable.com/ > > Second google site hit > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2076134&CatId=84 > > I've done business with Tiger Direct. They were prompt for delivery. > Searching for things on their site was annoying, though. > > Adding "site:newegg" to the search gives: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812207001 > and > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812162003 > > First has a right angle connector. > > You were saying? > {^_^} > Already looked at the Silverstone cables a few days ago, too many bad reviews about the cables snapping in two. Do you have any of these Silverstone cables... can you comment on the quality? thanks. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:35:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C8616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A245143D5D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:35:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so469026nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PB8uNWtH4A0ChWQKg41UCsBzCcGB4WiqsYlFCWTZpiCjKMZMcd2iOy+LM0Q+K0vg9oI7Cuw2KcSDSczs6EvbWO6aNWY7nt6sBUWrpZUow1/sawyiqWIcRpGkB5+IkZbZSw/JQcWDmT/Vwjln1WLSWO9sx4+iY+L5qOQKeIX5tvw= Received: by 10.78.175.14 with SMTP id x14mr117573hue; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:35:03 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200608012005.23994.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200608012005.23994.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:35:06 -0000 On 8/1/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 19:23, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > > stupid problem with the cables. > > > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > > shielded cables? > > > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > > when i built my computer 2 years ago, i went for sata drives for the first > time. my intial impression was "wow... is that actually going to stay > connected?" > Now that I've rationally thought about it, it's possible the backplane is flaky... I still think the cable connectors are to loose. Maybe I've been jaded by a bad batch of cables and a flaky backplane. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:36:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FA316A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E16A43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 27735 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 01:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (74.230.49.162) by smtpout08-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.12) with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2006 01:36:23 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <034901c6b5ce$f05a2d90$0225a8c0@Wednesday> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:36:22 -0500 To: "Nikolas Britton" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Cc: jdow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:36:25 -0000 Hrm. SATA cables suck. I just got a new macbook - its power connector sucks itself right into the socket when it's close to it. If SATA cables sucked, this wouldn't be an issue. On 1 August 2006, at 20:24, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/1/06, jdow wrote: >> From: "Nikolas Britton" >> >> > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the >> cables! 4 >> > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other >> > stupid problem with the cables. >> > >> > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. >> Also... >> > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them >> > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? >> > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com >> > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for >> > shielded cables? >> > >> > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. >> >> First google hit "SATA-II cable specification": >> http://www.satacable.com/ >> >> Second google site hit >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item- >> details.asp?EdpNo=2076134&CatId=84 >> >> I've done business with Tiger Direct. They were prompt for delivery. >> Searching for things on their site was annoying, though. >> >> Adding "site:newegg" to the search gives: >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812207001 >> and >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812162003 >> >> First has a right angle connector. >> >> You were saying? >> {^_^} >> > > Already looked at the Silverstone cables a few days ago, too many bad > reviews about the cables snapping in two. Do you have any of these > Silverstone cables... can you comment on the quality? thanks. > > -- > BSD Podcasts @: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ > http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:37:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3126C16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BED643D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:37:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83561291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69707-08; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2005290C6B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id AE2C25D58E; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F6A5CAB2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:24 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:37:24 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801223633.L27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801131123.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> <002401c6b5a3$de991970$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:37:25 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Why not just add in the patch in kern/65627 and run the CPU serial number >> through >> your hash? > > Because you can still fake the dam thing, making the whole idea > useless!!! Am I the only one that can see this ... what the hell > people! I just showed you a working crack! Need to see it again?: > > my $number = "100000000000000000000"; > my $randomkey = ""; > while (0 == 0) { > $randomkey = `echo $number | md5`; > print "fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey"; > $number++ > } > > OUT: > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8b3fad8939670f85e0fce777cae8e0c > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=91e572785d190fec766a5b7caef16597 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=e8150443d9befbfba9ee6ca40af076e7 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=b1aefc59367a7d512104f2f63bf1afb8 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=bf883c70f506603c86c8785cca8eef5e > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=79e005d4f379e549eaff7106ede744b7 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=de09c238162dae88e9372102fe114be9 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=7ac8e65d693f525db9fabb061f15ac8b > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=14e16452a9bdff69e5177ee4de0631e0 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5432cc5903e4ff9b556561c5b553220b > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=263aaf7d4910cce7b66e2e4438d65ab2 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=083d41d985775a53c2ada0c66b1a7d4c > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=3e1b6b0b9c5c4d478b4a161c6e1c5d46 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=1aed1b7d4add59bedfd21df56e15cd90 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=233196bee8136806b7570532d1d34349 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=56753858102f51b756c93bd5c0dbfaa5 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=baea3619ea55ee516e3c556ffb7fd287 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=cf49ffbeb51fd9864386388a68f41059 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=f5c052e568711a4cb61890d7114d1f43 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=5796f413c62eb369fa15c37fffb748f8 > fetch > http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=4574ee7d3334a609c5b4de66f1527eca > > Surrounded by #$%^*$@ idiots. Actually, must have missed this the first time through, thanks ... but, why would we need to run the CPU serial number through the hash, if its already unique to each CPU? > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:37:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF8316A4E2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6.server.rpi.edu (smtp6.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB1B43D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp6.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k721bNFa032541; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:37:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> References: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:37:22 -0400 To: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:37:27 -0000 At 5:05 PM -0400 8/1/06, Gerard Seibert wrote: >FreeBSD 6.1 > >The printer on my system is connected to a WinXP machine. >I installed apsfilter to configure the print setup. >Everything appears to be working and I can print to the >printer from within apsfilter. > >However, when I attempt to print either from the command >line or from within KDE, I receive this error message: > >lpr: Error - scheduler not responding! > >I cannot find out what is causing it. I even did a reboot >but the message continues. I Googled for a solution but >they all seemed to involve cups and I do not want to >install that if not necessary. I had another machine >configured similar to this but using FBSD 5.4 that >worked just fine. Check to see if you have multiple versions of 'lpr' running. *If* you do, then the results that you see will probably depend on which version you run. It might be that KDE was compiled to expect CUPS. I do not use KDE, and I do not use CUPS, but you might want to see if there is some "NO_CUPS" option for the KDE port. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:38:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD75B16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926AA43D64 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:38:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C79291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69708-06; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFA5290C6B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id CE8885D58E; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9D45CAB2; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:16 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:38:16 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:38:18 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/1/06, Robert Huff wrote: >> User Freebsd writes: >> > Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as >> > soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd >> need >> > to do something like: >> > >> > ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 >> > >> > since the 'ether' would never change ... >> >> At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the >> MAC address .... >> >> >> > > You still don't get it! Maybe this simple perl program will illustrate > the problem: > > my $number = "100000000000000000000"; > my $randomkey = ""; > while (0 == 0) { > $randomkey = `echo $number | md5`; > print "fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey"; > $number++ > } > > Also by using only the mac address output of ifconfig you have limited > the pool of unique keys to 16^12 (281,474,976,710,656)!!! All I need > to do to find your mac address is compute all possible mac address > combinations into MD5 and then just simply match it up with yours. > Anonymity only works if the input is large then the output!!! Because > it's computationally impossible to compute all values of a 500+ byte > string etc. etc. The MD5 string maps back to at least (how do you > compute the collisions?) two SHA256 keys and the SHA256 maps back to > at least two ifconfig strings. Thing is, we aren't so much looking for anonymity as we are uniqueness, but, wouldn't the CPU serial id not be both? > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:44:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C78F16A4EC for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au) Received: from mail95.messagelabs.com (mail95.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EFB243D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: DWarne@acpmagazines.com.au X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-95.messagelabs.com!1154483034!35756484!5 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.10.7; banners=acpmagazines.com.au,-,- X-Originating-IP: [203.48.97.132] Received: (qmail 10798 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 01:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acphofexc02.acp.net) (203.48.97.132) by server-3.tower-95.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 01:43:59 -0000 Received: from acphofexc08.acp.net ([10.68.120.65]) by acphofexc02.acp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:43:54 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:43:53 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD Thread-Index: Aca11Ii2wrn6jBV8ShuZOu03OXjKDQAABcbA From: "Warne, Dan" To: "Juha Saarinen" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2006 01:43:54.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CCD5CC0:01C6B5D5] Cc: Tim Gaden , workmail@danwarne.com, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:44:05 -0000 Thanks=20for=20that=20Juha,=20yes=20I'm=20thinking=20of=20dual-booting=20s= cenarios,=20but also=20the=20ability=20to=20format=20an=20high=20capacity=20external=20dri= ve=20without jumping=20through=20hoops.=20 Currently,=20if=20you=20want=20to=20use=20a=20high=20capacity=20external=20= drive=20for read/write=20across=20Windows=20and=20OS=20X=20machines,=20your=20only=20o= ption=20is=20FAT32, and=20neither=20OS=20X=20nor=20Windows=20can=20format=20drives=20with=20FA= T32=20above=20a certain=20partition=20size.=20(Apparently=20FAT32=20on=20Linux=20can=20get= =20around=20the Microsoft=20size=20limitation,=20but=20that's=20not=20a=20very=20practical= =20option=20for=20an OS=20X=20user).=20 Cheers Dan Dan=20Warne=20|=20news=20and=20online=20editor=20|=20APC=20Magazine=20| dwarne@acpmagazines.com.au=20|=20http://apcmag.com Address=20for=20couriers:=20APC=20Magazine,=20L9=20175-183=20Castlereagh=20= St,=20Sydney ACP=20Magazines=20Limited=20|=20Publishing=20and=20Broadcasting=20Limited -----Original=20Message----- From:=20Juha=20Saarinen=20[mailto:juhasaarinen@gmail.com]=20 Sent:=20Wednesday,=20August=2002,=202006=2011:40=20AM To:=20Warne,=20Dan Subject:=20Re:=20Implementing=20NTFS-3g=20into=20FreeBSD On=208/2/06,=20Warne,=20Dan=20=20wrote: >=20Hi=20all, > >=20One=20of=20my=20journalists=20recently=20wrote=20an=20interesting=20st= ory=20on=20the=20 >=20NTFS-3g=20project=20that=20is=20promising=20a=20fully=20OSS=20solution= =20for=20reading=20 >=20-and=20writing-=20to=20NTFS=20partitions. > >=20I=20am=20personally=20a=20Mac=20OS=20X=20user=20and=20I=20don't=20have= =20a=20Linux/Unix=20 >=20background=20so=20I=20wonder=20if=20you=20can=20advise:=20how=20viable= =20would=20it=20be=20to=20 >=20implement=20NTFS-3g=20into=20FreeBSD? > >=20More=20specifically=20I'm=20wondering=20whether=20Apple=20could=20easi= ly=20implement=20 >=20it=20into=20Darwin,=20therefore=20providing=20NTFS=20write=20support=20= for=20OS=20X. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:48:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3856916A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18F443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:48:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k721mmc9032273 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:48:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:48:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: a good web statistics port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:48:51 -0000 something other than webalizer? i would really prefer awstats, but its been in "command injection" limbo forever. can someone recommand something better than webalizer, that is preferrably searchable and sortable, etc etc? thanks in advance, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:50:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E621216A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D4443D7D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k721olOd018681; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:50:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20060801165915.K932@seibercom.net> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:50:46 -0400 To: Gerard Seibert , FreeBSD-Questions From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:50:56 -0000 On August 1/2006, I (Garance) wrote: > >Check to see if you have multiple versions of 'lpr' >running. *If* you do, then the results that you see >will probably depend on which version you run. What I meant to say was: Check to see if you have multiple versions of `lpr' *installed*. See what you get from the command: type -a lpr -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:55:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51CE16A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7061043D62 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5472 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 01:55:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H6AvqSa2/5BN7YbRE4yIJIOo+yYdb653BvoEGj3MqvKVs475bMZ9TSuniik5XZ299wvW9aEvpkEWHbWYeRPoOgJXL/oJAnBQ+0BfffyFFKgtG6MLQ/GJaefiQYXGji8Vz1GXV1uw/1d9dAF/2cxJajyWpz9vzUjHlBVmjb2Sdfc= ; Message-ID: <20060802015501.5470.qmail@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.28] by web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:55:01 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Errors Using tcpdump with tcpshow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:55:09 -0000 Hello For some time now I have been watching tcp dumps by sending them through tcpshow -cooked. This has worked quite well on BSD 4.X and also I believe 5.2.1. However, when I tried to do this on a 5.5 or 6.1 server, I get an error. Can anyone help with why I might be getting these errors with later versions of FreeBSD? I have tried all I can think of. > tcpdump -i bge1 -s 1518 -lenx | tcpshow tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 1518 bytes tcpdump: 1 packets captured 162 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel bad dump file format Or > tcpdump -i bge1 -s 1518 -lenx | tcpshow -cooked tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 1518 bytes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Packet 1 ***Error: Badly formatted Ethernet address 1 packets captured 178 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel Thanks!! Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 01:59:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38216A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1873243D80 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:59:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so474970nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:59:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tTj4gSvT1mI67jl516xO5j8Vq7RBtpTifKaSXWxbfIrfkzDOR26NQUJgPDjkSZ9LO9o4IS7huRkjVIp7CaXbmqWua41TffMTEnWYPhhff4MFc0Kr8jVYjN+ejr5TkJu+9E25tiRprOMXX3Fo210xGRdD9EcUqU12FrDOfwTicgw= Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr120857huc; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:59:12 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:59:59 -0000 On 8/1/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > On 8/1/06, Robert Huff wrote: > >> User Freebsd writes: > >> > Actually, using ifconfig wouldn't work ... it would give unique, but as > >> > soon as you add another IP (ie. alias), the ID would change ... you'd > >> need > >> > to do something like: > >> > > >> > ifconfig | grep ether | sha256 | md5 > >> > > >> > since the 'ether' would never change ... > >> > >> At least some cards (+ FreeBSD drivers) allow you to set the > >> MAC address .... > >> > >> > >> > > > > You still don't get it! Maybe this simple perl program will illustrate > > the problem: > > > > my $number = "100000000000000000000"; > > my $randomkey = ""; > > while (0 == 0) { > > $randomkey = `echo $number | md5`; > > print "fetch http://www.hub.org/freebsd_stats.php?HOSTID=$randomkey"; > > $number++ > > } > > > > Also by using only the mac address output of ifconfig you have limited > > the pool of unique keys to 16^12 (281,474,976,710,656)!!! All I need > > to do to find your mac address is compute all possible mac address > > combinations into MD5 and then just simply match it up with yours. > > Anonymity only works if the input is large then the output!!! Because > > it's computationally impossible to compute all values of a 500+ byte > > string etc. etc. The MD5 string maps back to at least (how do you > > compute the collisions?) two SHA256 keys and the SHA256 maps back to > > at least two ifconfig strings. > > Thing is, we aren't so much looking for anonymity as we are uniqueness, > but, wouldn't the CPU serial id not be both? > > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 02:03:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8E116A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC1643D66 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:03:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12648291AFC; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73276-01; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242B3290C6B; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id E951D5C4EF; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35694AB20; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:39 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:03:39 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com> <44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:03:47 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead of add it as a new host? ---- Marc G. 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( [124.172.191.119]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n77sm6887146pye.2006.08.01.19.16.05; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Yuan, Jue" Organization: Institute of Computing Technology, CAS, China To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:17:57 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <200608011955.51924.yuanjue02@gmail.com> <44CF70AB.9030404@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44CF70AB.9030404@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021017.58344.yuanjue02@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:16:09 -0000 On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:18, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Yuan, Jue wrote: > > What about the first question? curious too :-) > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ > > is a good bookmark to have when you accidentially delete a post you > later want to look at. > Hi. Thanks for your reply first. To be frank, I just don't get what you mean. I don't see any previous post = of=20 this thread that talking about the first question. Am I wrong? If you refered to STFW, then I could get your idea. And after google, gvinu= m=20 is the substitue, right? :-) =2D-=20 Best Regards Yuan, Jue @ http://www.yuanjue.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 02:36:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52F916A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34514.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34514.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A7CD43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12814 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 02:36:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S410DgWVir/DMCsYsfhfubEi+kYAff0ER+qPsHw0osQCiW5MDC8nPCnX3Nlw5uld3prN9E2RNWFDMpO3gavMXRGMapFNg8i/qYDO+E0EULmYgm3Zvr61XFrYVBiXDDfMjcTA3SfwZRA+xUGNG5VsoQjzQBA2UAohDPIHjql1ETI= ; Message-ID: <20060802023608.12812.qmail@web34514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34514.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:36:07 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: jdow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <034901c6b5ce$f05a2d90$0225a8c0@Wednesday> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:36:08 -0000 --- jdow wrote: > From: "Nikolas Britton" > > > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs > has been the cables! 4 > > times I've lost arrays because the cables came > loose or some other > > stupid problem with the cables. > > > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching > SATA-II cables. Also... > > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... > super glue them > > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables > rated for SATA-II? > > I've never seen a definitive answer to this > question and newegg.com > > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the > spec call for > > shielded cables? > > > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > > First google hit "SATA-II cable specification": > http://www.satacable.com/ > > Second google site hit > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2076134&CatId=84 > > I've done business with Tiger Direct. They were > prompt for delivery. > Searching for things on their site was annoying, > though. > > Adding "site:newegg" to the search gives: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812207001 > and > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812162003 > > First has a right angle connector. > > You were saying? > {^_^} Well, according to all this, my nice new 3-ware 9550SX SATA II card has SATA I connectors and came with SATA I cables. That seems, well, disapointing and odd. Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F8B16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59DD43D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1189655pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SnD8sTzT/+yvlvRCdWaSsyB5dtY3F2Syoj5DN00V/G66cIdQMwXAiK9LKDCFSMGlFgLC5O1CXE99o35/ygxkdGgqi43bWBxEGT769Z1lVTr5qJ/o5Y7xoMorbIRDEzrX9E/nZqVGcWGLfsM93WlVS4/Q69MRpmoroaQr8MwxSTA= Received: by 10.35.100.6 with SMTP id c6mr620907pym; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Malcolm Kay" In-Reply-To: <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Joseph Gleason , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:03:01 -0000 On 8/1/06, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > I have no personal experience of doing this, but it seems to me > you should be able to achieve your objective by using a specific > netmask with ifconfig rather than the CIDR / notation: > 172.20.0.1/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 > 172.20.0.2/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 > Creative idea ... even if it's breaking the rules ( so don't do it ). Even if FreeBSD honors these subnets there is no guarantee that any other hosts on the network will. Many systems will refuse to even configure this kind of invalid subnet. Plus, you can't easily scale this to the 10 networks the original poster mentioned and it would be a nightmare to try and figure out how to re-route traffic if one of the next-hop hosts died. (Which was also a goal mentioned in the original post.) Although I've head that IPFW can handle multiple dynamic redirects ( I forswore all other firewalls as soon as I found pf ) you can do it very simply with pf. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:03:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92B816A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C350743D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1189654pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SnD8sTzT/+yvlvRCdWaSsyB5dtY3F2Syoj5DN00V/G66cIdQMwXAiK9LKDCFSMGlFgLC5O1CXE99o35/ygxkdGgqi43bWBxEGT769Z1lVTr5qJ/o5Y7xoMorbIRDEzrX9E/nZqVGcWGLfsM93WlVS4/Q69MRpmoroaQr8MwxSTA= Received: by 10.35.100.6 with SMTP id c6mr620907pym; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:02:57 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "Malcolm Kay" In-Reply-To: <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7956f3200607311240g740c949cvbea994374967071f@mail.gmail.com> <200608020907.31695.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Joseph Gleason , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple interfaces on same subnet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:03:01 -0000 On 8/1/06, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > I have no personal experience of doing this, but it seems to me > you should be able to achieve your objective by using a specific > netmask with ifconfig rather than the CIDR / notation: > 172.20.0.1/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 > 172.20.0.2/16 -> 172.20.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.1 > Creative idea ... even if it's breaking the rules ( so don't do it ). Even if FreeBSD honors these subnets there is no guarantee that any other hosts on the network will. Many systems will refuse to even configure this kind of invalid subnet. Plus, you can't easily scale this to the 10 networks the original poster mentioned and it would be a nightmare to try and figure out how to re-route traffic if one of the next-hop hosts died. (Which was also a goal mentioned in the original post.) Although I've head that IPFW can handle multiple dynamic redirects ( I forswore all other firewalls as soon as I found pf ) you can do it very simply with pf. -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:05:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3379D16A4E5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EFB543D55 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:05:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 82551 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 03:05:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LFGxzqHc3/GFXis6GhofffXS76j8uY/+VHTRMSmm9PXzRPW3v95HKMhyCubO9Qt3XS48CSAOJc/Qhdm4AasbmzYqj8rfjybRkionWBSUTwWKk13B6qv6hxCPfMmO+uPE2Z4LTxm84qGlWTIMdBnhQ0eByF69dqbEVp9/9Zh3sO4= ; Message-ID: <20060802030507.82549.qmail@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:05:07 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:05:12 -0000 Hi I have several web servers that are attached to a Netapp (network appliance) unit via NFS-3. A few servers are 5.5 and a few are 6.1 for comparison testing. All seem to have lousy performance. When going through the issues with Netapp, the reasons given were that we have too many GettAdr/Lookup requests compared to actual reads. So all the NFS IOPS are being used up by these requests. As soon as the webservers get busy, requests pile up. I have tried everything I can think of. The web servers are even mounted read only with no help. My current mount options are: filer:/vol/fvol31 /home/13/13 nfs ro,noatime,-r=32768,-T,-b,-R0,-i,-D2,-L 0 0 I have tried plenty of others. an example nfsstat -c 2 (while working ok) GtAttr Lookup Rdlink Read Write Rename Access Rddir 4357 2976 0 125 0 0 3425 0 4173 2836 0 115 0 0 3288 0 4254 2912 0 106 0 0 3344 0 3668 2528 0 99 0 0 2880 0 3992 2746 0 101 0 0 3136 0 3916 2706 0 93 0 0 3080 0 3748 2551 0 106 0 0 2948 0 4121 2851 0 86 0 0 3231 0 Any advice for sysctl tunes or anything else would be much appreciatted! Thanks Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:23:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE1316A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32B2143D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:23:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62521 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 03:23:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3KkR+RzOoDVugyh/6uanRreYMAznrMVSY7B2aZizxD+5rRO/ki4KXLIO3yfGst+Z7/DLav7ZECA5bXbEk+P/p1K8bwRjVaREjrOUQMOlTbQKQ3LS7n0E0WR9frtyCzI4EwJZQJht9xY4W2jLyIedAphqydiGzkacp7BEjaNPd6I= ; Message-ID: <20060802032315.62519.qmail@web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34502.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:23:15 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 20:23:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: David Banning In-Reply-To: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:23:17 -0000 --- David Banning wrote: > I am installing a new server and have to copy many > files from old server > to new. I have connected a windows box to each via > samba, and am dragging > from one to the other via the windows box. > > This might seem like a silly question, but what is > the way to copy > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? If you have a secured connection I like using rcp. (complied without the evil conversion to using scp) scp works too but has more overhead and for rsh maintains permissions better. (I think) One thing to keep in mind is that if you are copying OS files, you may run into files that have the file (immutable) flags set such that even as root, you cannot update or overwrite them while in multiuser. (see chflags) Hope this helps. Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:23:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAFC16A4EA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay2.av-mx.com (relay2.av-mx.com [137.118.16.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C95D43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:23:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay2.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 344816499 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:23:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 16705 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 03:23:48 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 03:23:48 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D01AC3.5050705@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:23:47 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> <974320D7-3E87-4D57-9A79-BD3ED46D1B0C@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <974320D7-3E87-4D57-9A79-BD3ED46D1B0C@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:23:50 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Micah wrote: > >> >> I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail >> created jail environment. Here's what happens: >> >> trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 >> ... >> test% xclock >> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. > > Are you doing an su or something before you run the X program? I have > not had problems launching X programs in side a jail over ssh but I did > get that same error when I did an su first since I was no longer my > username. I copied the .Xauthority over from my user into ~root and it > worked. (In case anyone asks, I was testing a system management app > that needs to run as root to access some stuff and I was just testing it > for someone. I don't normally run X things at all or as root ) > > Chad > >> X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). >> >> I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the lists >> a while back, but it didn't change anything. >> >> Host is: >> trisha# uname -a >> FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #1: >> Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 >> root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 >> >> Thanks, >> Micah > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net Nope I didn't su, I just ssh'd in as a regular user and immediately tried xclock. I also tried ssh'ing in as root to see if it's a perms problem, but root gets the same error. Maybe I've got a configuration error somewhere? ezjail mounts much of the file system ro, maybe that's causing a problem? Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:32:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A75116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-01@jeremykister.com) Received: from qmail-01.nntx.net (qmail-01.nntx.net [204.9.96.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D2B243D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:32:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-01@jeremykister.com) Received: (qmail 20174 invoked by uid 1010); 1 Aug 2006 23:32:49 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 69.141.255.86 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 20168, pid: 20173, t: 0.0800s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.9.1.2?) (smtpauth-01@jeremykister.com@69.141.255.86) by qmail-01.nntx.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2006 23:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: <44D01CCF.7000408@jeremykister.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:32:31 -0400 From: Jeremy Kister User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802030507.82549.qmail@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802030507.82549.qmail@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:32:53 -0000 On 8/1/2006 11:05 PM, N. Harrington wrote: > My current mount options are: > filer:/vol/fvol31 /home/13/13 nfs > ro,noatime,-r=32768,-T,-b,-R0,-i,-D2,-L 0 0 for the same performance reason, mine is: netapp1:/vol/vol0/export /export nfs rw,-r=16384,-w=16384,-L 0 0 might be worth a try to add the -w. -- Jeremy Kister http://jeremy.kister.net./ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:35:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C742816A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E1743D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:35:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G87W0-0008PE-QS; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:35:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <44D01AC3.5050705@ywave.com> References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> <974320D7-3E87-4D57-9A79-BD3ED46D1B0C@shire.net> <44D01AC3.5050705@ywave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <61130535-366F-4E26-BCD2-2EB31386EB5C@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:35:24 -0600 To: Micah X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:35:25 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Micah wrote: > > Nope I didn't su, I just ssh'd in as a regular user and immediately > tried xclock. I also tried ssh'ing in as root to see if it's a > perms problem, but root gets the same error. Maybe I've got a > configuration error somewhere? ezjail mounts much of the file > system ro, maybe that's causing a problem? > Again, I am not an expert, but make sure you have an .Xauthority file in the login dir root of the account you are logging in to and that it has a creation or modification date at the same time you logged in (to make sure that you really are getting it set). Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:48:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0A416A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65EC43D72 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:47:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7225GIZ019746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:05:24 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k7225Fs5023711; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:05:15 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:05:15 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200608020205.k7225Fs5023711@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: roberthuff@rcn.com In-reply-to: <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (message from Robert Huff on Tue, 1 Aug 2006 07:20:14 -0400) References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:48:04 -0000 > 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is > fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. SpamAssassin itself is written in Perl... But it can be run on a remote server, it does not have to be on the machine running sendmail. > 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I > have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more > frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. I think stock sendmail is installed with milter, so it is only a matter aof configuration, not of compiling. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:49:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF65616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from mail.united-ware.com (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8B143D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (am-productions.biz [69.61.164.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.united-ware.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k723wN0d091513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:58:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from amistry@am-productions.biz) From: Anish Mistry Organization: AM Productions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:50:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3391180.DI4Ne6O6l1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608012350.36103.amistry@am-productions.biz> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_60, MYFREEBSD2 autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/1630/Tue Aug 1 11:38:56 2006 on mail.united-ware.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Micah Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:49:32 -0000 --nextPart3391180.DI4Ne6O6l1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 01 August 2006 19:44, Micah wrote: > I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail > created jail environment. Here's what happens: > > trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 > ... > test% xclock > X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. > X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server > shutdown). > > I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the > lists a while back, but it didn't change anything. > > Host is: > trisha# uname -a > FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 > #1: Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 > root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 Does using "ssh -Y 10.0.0.1" do anything different? =2D-=20 Anish Mistry amistry@am-productions.biz AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ --nextPart3391180.DI4Ne6O6l1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0CEMxqA5ziudZT0RAhfVAKDbFdupEoZhTBJ1Eysjg80AxCV95wCgqGil vqoy4SpFRj/oxkUGvoXqYDg= =0wfI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3391180.DI4Ne6O6l1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:55:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45216A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AC743D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:55:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2540291B03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90184-01; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2185A291AFC; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 586505C30D; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F5F47BC1; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:51 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:55:51 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200608020205.k7225Fs5023711@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: <20060802005403.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200608020205.k7225Fs5023711@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: roberthuff@rcn.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:55:54 -0000 If you want a truly user-friendly spam/virus solution, check out: http://www.renaissoft.com/maia/ I have this backing >200 VPS, including postgresql.org itself, and its literally a dream, as it allows *each user* to individually tailor their settings ... On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Olivier Nicole wrote: >> 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is >> fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. > > SpamAssassin itself is written in Perl... But it can be run on a > remote server, it does not have to be on the machine running sendmail. > >> 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I >> have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more >> frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. > > I think stock sendmail is installed with milter, so it is only a > matter aof configuration, not of compiling. > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:56:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3112616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7346843D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k713xj7a072785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:59:45 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k713xhHq012401; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:59:43 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:59:43 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200608010359.k713xhHq012401@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: justins@justnosweat.net In-reply-to: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> (message from justin on Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:39:54 +0000 (UTC)) References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:56:17 -0000 > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? I have been using spamassassin and am quite pleased with it. I think it's in the ports. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:56:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67B816A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:56:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6V8lvkD026254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:47:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k6V8luaX001562; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:47:56 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:47:56 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200607310847.k6V8luaX001562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: What process is using what UDP port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:56:18 -0000 Hi, I have a FreeBSD machine sending UDP packets to one of my other machine. There is no apparent reason why it is sending those UDP packets. How can I trace the process doing so? TIA Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 03:59:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1BD16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ED343D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:59:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 336669521 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:59:07 -0400 Received: (qmail 31758 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 03:59:06 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 03:59:06 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D02309.5070300@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:59:05 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> <974320D7-3E87-4D57-9A79-BD3ED46D1B0C@shire.net> <44D01AC3.5050705@ywave.com> <61130535-366F-4E26-BCD2-2EB31386EB5C@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <61130535-366F-4E26-BCD2-2EB31386EB5C@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:59:09 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Micah wrote: > >> >> Nope I didn't su, I just ssh'd in as a regular user and immediately >> tried xclock. I also tried ssh'ing in as root to see if it's a perms >> problem, but root gets the same error. Maybe I've got a configuration >> error somewhere? ezjail mounts much of the file system ro, maybe >> that's causing a problem? >> > > Again, I am not an expert, but make sure you have an .Xauthority file in > the login dir root of the account you are logging in to and that it has > a creation or modification date at the same time you logged in (to make > sure that you really are getting it set). > > Chad Thanks for the idea, here's a test run: test% ll .Xauthority -rw------- 1 bsdmjl bsdmjl 112B Aug 1 20:51 .Xauthority test% rm .Xauthority test% exit logout Connection to 10.0.0.1 closed. trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 Password: Last login: Tue Aug 1 20:51:33 2006 from 10.0.0.1 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 (TRISHA) #1: Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 Welcome to FreeBSD! /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: creating new authority file /home/bsdmjl/.Xauthority test% ll .Xauthority -rw------- 1 bsdmjl bsdmjl 112B Aug 1 20:51 .Xauthority test% xclock X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). I'll keep looking.... Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:02:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316C816A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B999043D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:02:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.62] (HELO mx1.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 336671407 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:02:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 20002 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 04:02:39 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 04:02:39 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D023DE.2020901@ywave.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:02:38 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anish Mistry References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> <200608012350.36103.amistry@am-productions.biz> In-Reply-To: <200608012350.36103.amistry@am-productions.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:02:41 -0000 Anish Mistry wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 19:44, Micah wrote: >> I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail >> created jail environment. Here's what happens: >> >> trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 >> ... >> test% xclock >> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. >> X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server >> shutdown). >> >> I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the >> lists a while back, but it didn't change anything. >> >> Host is: >> trisha# uname -a >> FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 >> #1: Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 >> root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 > Does using "ssh -Y 10.0.0.1" do anything different? > Nope: trisha% ssh -Y 10.0.0.1 Password: test% xclock X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). test% exit logout Connection to test closed. trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 Password: test% xclock X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:04:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338BE16A4E2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB06443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:04:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so505678nfc for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LVPYmcp8MYe8u19VQWtrvRTmyeRhjvleZGyVHaYNAYCtcisrUQEiPACf0Z59b79Wn+vR6TBVqxyQyoIaiQZ2Azo2k/daF1Mvb26R0uwr3cwFiuG8MniSSUIjELuFscJAURvT9SLiVGUetjxtq2PbwhfJzRTrQLM7XZXzXSE2lN8= Received: by 10.78.183.8 with SMTP id g8mr148453huf; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:04:16 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:04:22 -0000 On 8/1/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? > > We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per > host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead > of add it as a new host? > But no matter what you do you can never guaranty a hosts uniqueness... What you want to do is akin to DRM and there is no way to do this in the open source world. What is wrong with a total host count? If all hosts are reporting in once per month then whats the problem?... just simple addition: DATA: 6.1-STABLE i386 6.0-RELEASE i386 6.1-RELEASE-p2 AMD Using that sample data above we had a total of 3 hosts report in during the month of X. After that you can break the data down, for example there are two I386 system for every one AMD system etc. etc. etc. We don't need to tracking each host to get a count of new systems... Just take the total from month X and subtract it from month Y to get Z, the new hosts that reported in. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:22:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B58416A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A17943D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:22:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atom.powers@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1213089pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:22:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JzIE5iptfGz+RGpy8TrVIspPAxeAJLTPvM39BGvsi4kORNp9v8TqYgwbWFAwUMyxsAAUeD4YNMpAbaYmNCp9Q8OEv54atxhPYe925wHEuosTWKzjlEeaUiqWOzDhGuHTvoEUC0tkgNEHXdPHgH1vWVF4DuUG4lvTSfShAPt8YxQ= Received: by 10.35.63.2 with SMTP id q2mr699952pyk; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.6 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:22:03 -0700 From: "Atom Powers" To: "User Freebsd" In-Reply-To: <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , Nikolas Britton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:22:05 -0000 On 8/1/06, User Freebsd wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? > > We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per > host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead > of add it as a new host? > Maybe I lost the point here, but are you trying to track every FreeBSD host or are you just trying to show that there is a large user-base? If you are just trying to show a large user base then you don't have to keep any kind of uid. Your numbers are going to be off by at least 20% to 30% just from people opting not to opt in; the error margin from duplicate hosts is going to be smaller than that, especially if you use freely available public data, like IP address, to track duplicates. On the other hand, if you want to keep tabs on every host out there, how often it has connected, it's uid, etc. Well, that smells too strongly of big brother for my tastes. Even if it is anonymous. It's still going to take you at least a release to get it into the base install. But if you can find a way to use the portsnap data and get useful information out of the cvsup data you can probably get numbers now with an error margin as low as 8% to 15%. Achem's Razor anybody? ( The simplest solution is the best solution. ) -- -- Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard. --Atom Powers-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:30:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B465816A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4774A43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k724Tco4051455; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:29:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:29:38 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20060802042936.GI63872@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200607310847.k6V8luaX001562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200607310847.k6V8luaX001562@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What process is using what UDP port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:30:05 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 31), Olivier Nicole said: > I have a FreeBSD machine sending UDP packets to one of my other > machine. There is no apparent reason why it is sending those UDP > packets. How can I trace the process doing so? "sockstat | grep udp" will tell you which processes have udp sockets open, and tcpdumping the packets can give you an idea of what process is likely to be sending them. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:41:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D618016A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9C143D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:41:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-68-93-60-165.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [68.93.60.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE66115316; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:40:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:41:23 -0500 From: pauls@utdallas.edu To: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2C95F1A1061484A8E6FEDB03@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========A37DDDBF0DE02F1247D6==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: a good web statistics port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:41:20 -0000 --==========A37DDDBF0DE02F1247D6========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On August 1, 2006 8:48:48 PM -0500 Jonathan Horne =20 wrote: > something other than webalizer? i would really prefer awstats, but its > been in "command injection" limbo forever. can someone recommand > something better than webalizer, that is preferrably searchable and > sortable, etc etc? > It's not a port, but..... You can go here to see what it looks like in real life -=20 http://www.stovebolt.com/stats/, however, keep in mind, I'm running the=20 2002 version. (Time to update, I guess.) Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========A37DDDBF0DE02F1247D6==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:50:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495B516A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCCC43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F36291B03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79488-03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB22291AFC; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 9458A5C451; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931C54AA42; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060802014844.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:50:41 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/1/06, User Freebsd wrote: >> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> >> > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? >> >> We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per >> host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead >> of add it as a new host? >> > > But no matter what you do you can never guaranty a hosts uniqueness... > What you want to do is akin to DRM and there is no way to do this in > the open source world. > > What is wrong with a total host count? If all hosts are reporting in > once per month then whats the problem?... just simple addition: > > DATA: > 6.1-STABLE i386 > 6.0-RELEASE i386 > 6.1-RELEASE-p2 AMD I guess I'm just trying to make it as accurate as possible, and fear someone "fetch bombing" just to artificially increase the #s ... but, then again, if they did do that, even with a unique value, it wouldn't take much to create a random one for that purpose ... So, ya, I guess a unique id would be pretty useless ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 05:24:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462B816A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1028343D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:24:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A2849B497; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:54:06 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:54:05 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Dan Warne Message-ID: <20060802052405.GQ48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z4IKABJTiQIqPwmW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Tim Gaden , workmail@danwarne.com, Juha Saarinen , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Implementing NTFS-3g into FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:24:08 -0000 --z4IKABJTiQIqPwmW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 11:43:53 +1000, Dan Warne wrote: > On Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:40 AM, Juha Saarinen wrote: >> On 8/2/06, Warne, Dan wrote: >>> >>> One of my journalists recently wrote an interesting story on the >>> NTFS-3g project that is promising a fully OSS solution for reading >>> -and writing- to NTFS partitions. >>> >>> I am personally a Mac OS X user and I don't have a Linux/Unix >>> background so I wonder if you can advise: how viable would it be to >>> implement NTFS-3g into FreeBSD? >>> >>> More specifically I'm wondering whether Apple could easily implement >>> it into Darwin, therefore providing NTFS write support for OS X. This is an issue that has fallen under the table here, rightly so. Since we're primarily FreeBSD users, it's difficult for us to express a useful opinion on the viability under MacOS X. My guess, though, for many of the reasons I mention below, is that the answer is "yes". >> You're probably aware of the desirability to have "non GPL virus" >> code in FreeBSD, which makes the whole thing a lot harder to do. It's true that the FreeBSD project likes to keep GPL software separate, at least partially out of respect for the license conditions. There is also a small proportion of the project (myself definitely excluded) that think that GNU is Bad. But there's plenty of GPL software in the FreeBSD system (look at the toolchain for the probably most obvious example). Being GPL does not automatically exclude software from FreeBSD, though it's more likely to relegate it to the Ports Collection. But maybe it's there already? A brief 'locate ntfs' shows that it is, in the sysutils/ntfsprogs port. From the package description: The goals of this project are: create a new Linux kernel driver for the N= TFS file system (v1.2 and later 3.0), user space utilities (e.g. format, ntfs check, etc.) and a library to avoid code duplication and provide access to NTFS to other GPLed programs. WWW: http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ - Florent Thoumie flz@xbsd.org This port isn't new; I've used one of its utilities at the beginning of last year (see http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jan2005.html#19) to resize an NTFS file system. I don't know how well the NTFS access works, but one of the build options is to use FUSE, so it must be present. The port is at version 1.13.0, while the web site states that version 1.13.1 was released on 21 June. I'd expect to see an update Real Soon Now. >> However, there's this project: >> >> http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/ Yes, this is the one that NTFS-3g is built upon. > Currently, if you want to use a high capacity external drive for > read/write across Windows and OS X machines, your only option is > FAT32, and neither OS X nor Windows can format drives with FAT32 > above a certain partition size. (Apparently FAT32 on Linux can get > around the Microsoft size limitation, but that's not a very > practical option for an OS X user). Things are a little different for FreeBSD (and better, it seems from your article (http://www.apcstart.com/site/amills/2006/08/870/linux-to-get-reliable-ntfs= -write-support). There is already read/write support for NTFS, and I can confirm that "it works for me". Still, it's clear that improvements are possible. =46rom the man page: WRITING There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonreside= nt and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed fil= es are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte char= ac- ters. I don't understand the term "nonresident" here; but I can write NTFS from my FreeBSD system. The other restrictions sound like they could be fixed if anybody cared. So: will the FreeBSD project move completely to NTFS-3g? I'm pretty sure the answer is "no". We already have something that works well enough. There's also a feeling in the project, which I share, that userland file systems like FUSE are great for prototyping, but second rate for production systems. Your test results tend to confirm that. And finally, we have those anti-GNU bigots to contend with. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --z4IKABJTiQIqPwmW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0Db1IubykFB6QiMRArGRAJ4sXu3VP8Lui7BTEkmkgsbEXkzqcACgtXJ+ XwYajBglOxAhGYn2KahKaQ4= =p5TB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z4IKABJTiQIqPwmW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 05:41:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A785716A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5BE43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:41:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k725esro028042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:40:54 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k725eign024910; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:40:44 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:40:44 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200608020540.k725eign024910@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd@hub.org In-reply-to: <20060802014844.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> (message from User Freebsd on Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT)) References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060802014844.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: roberthuff@rcn.com, xj2106@columbia.edu, nikolas.britton@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:41:07 -0000 Hi, Just my 2 satangs. It's nice to try to get a overall figure, but something that could be easier to indentify and would have some importance too, is the VIP users. If we can say that Google is using FreeBSD for their search engine farm, even if there are "only" 2000 machines, it may have more importance than the 200,000 John Doe's machines. olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 05:42:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB4E16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B42F43D5C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11336 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 05:42:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gTLskeSmP6BL6QT17bccoKCBaNk0bTsWrGOQzHjWjHHUzABz+bLLQH1QTkdFCOEtcRtDQMqJ/ShundBRt53UyIMC+mvre7br6FEcc4GeArX6y+FvOqtExcSwPGfpV0of5tdTQJfgyyW6EPm+kcYv5w46gjJD3khS7mZhiQRWL0M= ; Message-ID: <20060802054233.11334.qmail@web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34511.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:42:33 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 22:42:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: Jeremy Kister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D01CCF.7000408@jeremykister.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:42:36 -0000 --- Jeremy Kister wrote: > On 8/1/2006 11:05 PM, N. Harrington wrote: > > My current mount options are: > > filer:/vol/fvol31 /home/13/13 nfs > > ro,noatime,-r=32768,-T,-b,-R0,-i,-D2,-L 0 0 > > for the same performance reason, mine is: > netapp1:/vol/vol0/export /export nfs > rw,-r=16384,-w=16384,-L 0 0 > > might be worth a try to add the -w. > Jeremy Kister > http://jeremy.kister.net./ Hi Jeremy Thanks for the suggestion. Would using the -w do anything for me since I am mounting read only? I will try 16384 again however, as they could not settle on wether 16k or 32k would be best. Thanks Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 06:23:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E0116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462B143D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F162E024; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:23:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44D044EC.3030805@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:23:40 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Yuan, Jue" References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <200608011955.51924.yuanjue02@gmail.com> <44CF70AB.9030404@locolomo.org> <200608021017.58344.yuanjue02@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200608021017.58344.yuanjue02@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:23:50 -0000 Yuan, Jue wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:18, Erik Nørgaard wrote: >> Yuan, Jue wrote: >>> What about the first question? curious too :-) >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ >> >> is a good bookmark to have when you accidentially delete a post you >> later want to look at. >> > Hi. > > Thanks for your reply first. > > To be frank, I just don't get what you mean. I don't see any previous post of > this thread that talking about the first question. Am I wrong? > > If you refered to STFW, then I could get your idea. And after google, gvinum > is the substitue, right? :-) I thought you wanted to know what the first question was (since I had deleted that from my reply), if you had accidentially deleted OP. Obviously, I didn't answer it because I don't have the answer, so asking me for the answer to the first question is pretty much useless. If this was what you meant, the reply is: sit back and see if someone else responds on that. Cheers -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 06:29:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F3716A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0682D43D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:29:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k726TJx04336; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001c01c6b5fd$110436c0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikolas Britton" References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org><44CDE02F.4090604@dial.pipex.com><44CE7DD0.9070902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk><871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org><20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org><20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org><17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org><20060801131123.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org><002401c6b5a3$de991970$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:29:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:29:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Robert Huff" ; "Xiao-Yong Jin" ; ; "User Freebsd" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? > On 8/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Why not just add in the patch in kern/65627 and run the CPU serial number > > through > > your hash? > > Because you can still fake the dam thing, Why fake it when you can merely not supply it in the first place? There are valid uses for unique host ID's other than this marketing reporting scheme. I was merely pointing out to the OP that it is not particularly difficult (as he was arguing) to get unique ID's out of a FreeBSD system, I was not commenting on the scheme he wanted them for. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 06:37:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489316A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EE343D79 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:37:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from alpha.home (ppp150-165.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net [59.167.150.165]) by smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k726b2Re062399 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:07:02 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:07:01 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021607.01702.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: octave - problem with fsolve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:37:07 -0000 I installed octave-2.1.73 under FreeBSD 5.4 using the FreeBSD ports. This seems to be a very useful mathematical processor. Unfortunately the 'fsolve' function seems not to work. It seems always to return the given starting point value and a status of -1. Is this a known issue? Does anyone have this working under FreeBSD 5.x? I see some reference to problems with fsolve when this was first converted to a runtime loadable .oct module rather than built in to the octave core. However I wonder whether the problem may actually be in one of the library ports on which octave depends; I'm thinking particularly of the libraries created by the atlas port. Does anyone have any information, suggestions, ideas or fixes for this problem? I've explored the internet with respect to this problem but not turned up anything useful. Any response would be appreciated. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 06:50:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF19116A4E5; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD06943D77; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:50:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate2.punkt.de with ESMTP id k726o8C4007438; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k726o86G032311; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k726o7TE032310; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:07 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20060802065007.GA32196@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:50:16 -0000 Hi, Scott! > Ok guys, time for a small breather here. All these claims about > EoE and orphanage and whatnot are a bit premature and underinformed. I only stated that according to ICP Vortex Germany the GDT products are EOE and ICP Vortex will not provide an updated driver for FreeBSD. Nothing more. I talked to the person on the phone right before I sent my mail to the list. And that "orphanage" part depended on a big "IF nobody is willing to work on it". Regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 06:57:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F2716A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuanjue02@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FE343D55 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuanjue02@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1259258pyb for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:57:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=AFNGHDUsESg2Ctojk3tzw4jL6pKyry57qpkU7JvR1E12s7307NuGCJcNpll5vhCqvHOd7t6yR/Eo6VL2bPOovT7TZ4xEHk78fpOn1/5npSGpvsVpNcO6RNB5ET2s9sq99uHjC47SDE5/cF86mxbqpseZDgv71bAG8qoODp8+FyM= Received: by 10.35.113.12 with SMTP id q12mr887580pym; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?222.48.98.182? ( [124.172.191.119]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n40sm7149274pyg.2006.08.01.23.57.43; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:57:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Yuan, Jue" Organization: Institute of Computing Technology, CAS, China To: Erik Norgaard Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:59:30 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060801053719.GA6735@fast> <200608021017.58344.yuanjue02@gmail.com> <44D044EC.3030805@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <44D044EC.3030805@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021459.31413.yuanjue02@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from linux to freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:57:48 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 14:23, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 23:18, Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > > I thought you wanted to know what the first question was (since I had > deleted that from my reply), if you had accidentially deleted OP. > > Obviously, I didn't answer it because I don't have the answer, so asking > me for the answer to the first question is pretty much useless. If this > was what you meant, the reply is: sit back and see if someone else > responds on that. > I got it. It is my misunderstanding. Thanks for your kindly explanation. :-) =2D-=20 Best Regards Yuan, Jue @ http://www.yuanjue.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 07:46:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A90116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B4F43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:46:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=d5IxEfoLOHT5G31U52Hdb05rA/FaniZvla5o1bsgECzHSnkdZ/G7JuKAwQmfIj8c; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.174.200] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1G8BQq-0002F5-9s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:46:20 -0400 Message-ID: <04b401c6b607$be8129c0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net><44CED510.4070000@ywave.com><17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org><200608020205.k7225Fs5023711@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20060802005403.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:46:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120b7bbd867bf98c781c60028ee39cc5ffe3d22eb99cf5c6dcb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.174.200 Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:46:26 -0000 Precisely how is this different from the basic SpamAssassin capabilities either via MySQL or via user accounts? I use per user BAYES filtering and per user rules and scores on the machine here. {^_^} Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "User Freebsd" > > If you want a truly user-friendly spam/virus solution, check out: > > http://www.renaissoft.com/maia/ > > I have this backing >200 VPS, including postgresql.org itself, and its > literally a dream, as it allows *each user* to individually tailor their > settings ... > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >>> 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is >>> fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. >> >> SpamAssassin itself is written in Perl... But it can be run on a >> remote server, it does not have to be on the machine running sendmail. >> >>> 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I >>> have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more >>> frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. >> >> I think stock sendmail is installed with milter, so it is only a >> matter aof configuration, not of compiling. >> >> Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 08:16:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C5816A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A16D43D67 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so569924nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cJe8fF+FYRw30BzZhgbZMhDkgv5YGpwG4u9j8gSV2rG6rrSzwWLNdj6c8KIajv3+Ghm59CmCSKkcDS0F8+GTTKmC5/NZeGsftHMR1AD0j2oZ5tEHqYkI9/GLAYwE5XiR7QD2sXyZ6QRF/aqbCa6Psdvy3LXnavcU+84UY+E2dns= Received: by 10.78.156.6 with SMTP id d6mr193061hue; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:16:26 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "John Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <200608011431.09443.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> <20060801140433.f27bb1cb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <200608011431.09443.lists@jnielsen.net> Cc: David Banning , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:16:33 -0000 On 8/1/06, John Nielsen wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:04, Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to David Banning : > > > I am installing a new server and have to copy many files from old server > > > to new. I have connected a windows box to each via samba, and am dragging > > > from one to the other via the windows box. > > > > > > This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy > > > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? > > > > Usually NFS or scp. There are other choices, though. > > For many situations my favorite is tar+netcat (w/ optional bzip2 compression). > > On the destination host: > cd /some/path > nc -l 1234 | tar -xjvf - > > And on the source host: > cd /some/path > tar -cjvf - relative/path/to/source/dir | nc destip 1234 > > If you don't want compression leave out the 'j' flag in both calls to tar. > > scp is your best bet if you need encryption though (take note of the -r and -C > flags). > I'll 2nd netcat... one of the most versatile tool I've come across in UNIX land! http://www.securitydocs.com/library/3376 http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html http://www.stearns.org/doc/nc-intro.current.html One thing I'd like to add to Johns comment is to not use compression if your on a GigE network, The overhead required to do this will max out the CPU, the net effect being very slow transfer rates. It also helps to not use tar -v, you will miss error messages if you use -v because the SNR is very low, it consumes CPU time too. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 08:45:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8839216A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: from rhea.salford.ac.uk (rhea.salford.ac.uk [146.87.255.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD73143D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.S.Powell@salford.ac.uk) Received: (qmail 46878 invoked by uid 98); 2 Aug 2006 08:45:40 -0000 Received: from 146.87.255.121 by rhea.salford.ac.uk (envelope-from , uid 401) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/1630. uvscan: v4.4.00/v4819. spamassassin: 3.0.4. 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Processed in 0.801849 secs); 02 Aug 2006 08:45:40 -0000 Received: from rust.salford.ac.uk (HELO newplato.salford.ac.uk) (146.87.255.121) by rhea.salford.ac.uk (qpsmtpd/0.29-cvs-20040817) with SMTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:45:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 16574 invoked by uid 1002); 2 Aug 2006 08:45:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 08:45:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:45:37 +0100 (BST) From: "Mark Powell" To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20060801085450.56eadfe5.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20060802094019.O16501@rust.salford.ac.uk> References: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> <20060801085450.56eadfe5.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using dnscache locally with FBSD 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:45:42 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Bill Moran wrote: >> However, I use svscan to start up dnscache, and that starts very late in >> the boot. That means I can't just have the single "nameserver 127.0.0.1" >> line in resolv.conf, as every lookup would timeout until dnscache started. >> That means I need to replace resolv.conf early in the boot with the >> addresses of remote dns caches: > > Have you investigated the possibility of moving svscan's startup earlier in > the boot sequence? I don't know whether the svscan startup script is rcng > compliant yet, but if it is, you could move it to /etc/rc.d and move it > _way_ up in the startup sequence. I think it is rcng compliant. However, once in /etc/rc.d, how is the order of execution determined? I expect I will need to get it to run about the same time that named is usually started. > Another option is to put addresses that need to resolve before svscan has > started into /etc/hosts so that they don't need DNS. This could be > a maintenance nightmare, though, if there are many addresses. That sounds like a nightmare :( Cheers. > > -- Mark Powell - UNIX System Administrator - The University of Salford Information Services Division, Clifford Whitworth Building, Salford University, Manchester, M5 4WT, UK. Tel: +44 161 295 4837 Fax: +44 161 295 5888 www.pgp.com for PGP key From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 08:48:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA3816A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jchoque@tlmat.unican.es) Received: from luna.tlmat.unican.es (luna.tlmat.unican.es [193.144.186.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF5443D6E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:48:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jchoque@tlmat.unican.es) Received: from Altair (altair.tlmat.unican.es [193.144.186.43]) by luna.tlmat.unican.es (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k728Mtaj006570 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:22:55 +0200 From: "Johnny Choque" To: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:48:20 +0200 Message-ID: <008001c6b610$67f836d0$2bba90c1@Altair> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Thread-Index: Aca2EGflWl5b5P/eRGCZhn84tnzOWg== Subject: devd problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:48:24 -0000 Hi all, I has been testing the execution of some commands after inserting and removing a wireless pc card, using the rules of devd.conf and I've noticed quite a strange behavior with devd. I have used it in debug mode, thus running 'devd -dD', in order to see the rules that will be happening. Specifically, the rules in devd.conf that I want to monitor are the following ones: detach 0 { media-type "802.11"; action "/etc/pccard_ether $device-name stop"; }; attach 0 { media-type "802.11"; action "/etc/pccard_ether $device-name start"; }; After the Wireless pc card is inserted, the 'devd -dD' command shows the following messages: Processing event '+wi0 manufacturer=0x0156 product=0x0002 cisvendor="Lucent Technologies" cisproduct="WaveLAN/IEEE" function_type=6 at function=0 manufacturer=0x0156 product=0x0002 cisvendor="Lucent Technologies" cisproduct="WaveLAN/IEEE" function_type=6 on pccard0' Pushing table setting device-name=wi0 setting manufacturer=0x0156 setting product=0x0002 setting cisvendor=Lucent Technologies setting cisproduct=WaveLAN/IEEE setting function_type=6 Processing attach event Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ed50 Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ubt[0-9]+ Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ukbd0 Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ums[0-9]+ Testing media type of wi0 against 0x20 wi0 has media type 0x80 Testing media type of wi0 against 0x80 wi0 has media type 0x80 Executing '/etc/pccard_ether wi0 start' Popping table As you can see, the command pccard_ether, which is included in the attach section is successfully run but, after removing the wireless pc card, the rules that are included in the detach section do not happen to run, as showed in the following messages: Processing event '-wi0 manufacturer=0x0156 product=0x0002 cisvendor="Lucent Technologies" cisproduct="WaveLAN/IEEE" function_type=6 at function=0 manufacturer=0x0156 product=0x0002 cisvendor="Lucent Technologies" cisproduct="WaveLAN/IEEE" function_type=6 on pccard0' Pushing table setting device-name=wi0 setting manufacturer=0x0156 setting product=0x0002 setting cisvendor=Lucent Technologies setting cisproduct=WaveLAN/IEEE setting function_type=6 Processing detach event Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ed50 Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ubt[0-9]+ Testing device-name=wi0 against ^ukbd0 Testing media type of wi0 against 0x20 Testing media type of wi0 against 0x80 Popping table I was expecting a similar behaviour of devd as the one I saw when I inserted the pc card, but the message: Executing '/etc/pccard_ether wi0 stop' doesn't appear and for this reason I think that the rule of the detach section does not run. Does anybody know which may be the problem? What I need to do is executing a particular application upon the removal of the pc card, do you know how can I do that? Cheers, Johnny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 08:48:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7616A4EB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phil@chycor.com) Received: from c2bthomr12.btconnect.com (c2bthomr12.btconnect.com [194.73.73.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D436643D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phil@chycor.com) Received: from [192.168.7.28] by c2bthomr12.btconnect.com with ESMTP id BBS11834; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:43:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from 192.168.7.13 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <00e401c6b610$563a9690$0d07a8c0@P800> From: "Philip Radford" To: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:47:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Subject: Understanding top and memory usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Philip Radford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:48:37 -0000 Hi All, This is a question which probably applies to all unix based OS as well as FreeBSD. When using the top command I get the following in regards to memory usage. Mem: 223M Active, 970M Inact, 175M Wired, 50M Cache, 112M Buf, 73M Free Swap: 3029M Total, 12K Used, 3029M Free Can someone advise me which figure relates to actual physical memory which is available. I can't work out if it is the 970M Inact or the 73M Free (i.e. the last figure). Any advise greatfully received. Thanks Regards Phil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 08:50:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102EE16A4E8 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wbs@infowest.com) Received: from tozar.infowest.com (tozar.out.smtp.infowest.com [204.17.177.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2279143D72 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wbs@infowest.com) Received: from marbella.infowest.com (marbella.client.smtp.infowest.com [204.17.177.60]) by tozar.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CFC245CD8 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (209-33-199-253-dsl.infowest.net [209.33.199.253]) by marbella.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEDDA1065 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <44D06735.40603@infowest.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:49:57 -0600 From: Lorin Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gcc: cpp pre-defined variables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:50:15 -0000 How can I find all the variables that are pre-defined in the pre-processor. Do these come from a configuration file? Or are the compiled in to cpp when it is ported to a platform? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 09:18:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CD916A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0143D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so586950nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=da+vcUyihXeHzglmTU0JCh8htl0otu/JP0Ehn0p06UAADcfSEGA2NerxJ2xttLdLQu95p6SV3WAeTKBWqwuy8IyeRgOj6zhUKldsusYqYVk8s/FC9VbIGatSJLmkV8QqukucDMpjGkEvVw42gf87Cm9TwdTC3Bh0iUxCr8wa3Lw= Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr1959472nfj; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28sm1779507nfc.2006.08.02.02.18.45; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:18:31 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1718331.RmogvsZ6DF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608021218.41497.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: a good web statistics port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:18:48 -0000 --nextPart1718331.RmogvsZ6DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 02 August 2006 04:48, Jonathan Horne wrote: > something other than webalizer? i would really prefer awstats, but its > been in "command injection" limbo forever. can someone recommand somethi= ng > better than webalizer, that is preferrably searchable and sortable, etc > etc? > > thanks in advance, > jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I`m not sure what do You need. May be Analog:=20 http://www.analog.cx/ =2D- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B --nextPart1718331.RmogvsZ6DF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0G3xhLjVFCVp0wsRAnK/AKCAjj8+pBqVM/2BGXSfrOEDjSQleQCeIhhj 2ptp7TrRubrRLfcf1RRtPyw= =lCWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1718331.RmogvsZ6DF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 09:26:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF1C16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F41543D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so588969nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:26:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=t6y+OJq6nE6b8SXcTx/I7f4tJERPDH8vwvwPrVIos4ef1DEy1rZ22oPyDMsVYB+du55fM45maPB55yDQiog7d9PEiN1jT6Azppwx2PJDcZCjERh/SLKqK4UZG9/FLEs0ZZkRv0VoIfUhwEZMqHi3CCQKxay+bYeANhoPqO0OLgU= Received: by 10.49.41.18 with SMTP id t18mr1964761nfj; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k9sm74315nfc.2006.08.02.02.26.19; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Atom Powers" User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:26:05 +0300 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1387548.BB0jFLI8MS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608021226.17152.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Running Windows Server in a VM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:26:23 -0000 --nextPart1387548.BB0jFLI8MS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:41, Atom Powers wrote: > Simple question: Has anybody had any success running Windows Server > 2003 in a VM on FreeBSD? > > If so, which VM product did you use? Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition run under QEMU 0.8.1 fine. (FreeBSD= =20 6.1-STABLE) =2D- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B --nextPart1387548.BB0jFLI8MS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0G+5hLjVFCVp0wsRAvo3AKC78tnPZamK6PZL60M8vhY9weX3swCgk7yC FwIkBK37CZKBIAZCl3/oov0= =Folb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1387548.BB0jFLI8MS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 09:48:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADBD16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bloodyveins@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF6B43D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:48:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bloodyveins@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 27so1630371hub for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:48:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dUmC7vMLDqRI9n5mYpv9oKBT4Y6cOQ2iTCUDWwwZ0LmNKzSU1zrOQ/GrhywnprlLz5fwQO1pSlaoXw1eGwTI4xW43UsDlXodsmvELpHezw+ZVbI/KbZE2j7FstYZPp736XmJJ0Wgrt4l30kzhxESt+04vsI1Cal3S1Jijc5bqqc= Received: by 10.67.22.2 with SMTP id z2mr800255ugi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.89.13 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:48:48 +0700 From: "Mike Fern" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Changing user password from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:48:51 -0000 Dear all, Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from command line? We can add a user using single line pw (pw useradd), but i need ability to set the password also, instead of old command "passwd user" and then writing to stdin. Any ideas, suggestion? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 09:59:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBAA16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harald@clef.at) Received: from stud3.tuwien.ac.at (stud3.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.75.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F55743D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from harald@clef.at) Received: from bluedaemon.clef.test (v209-200.vps.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.209.200]) by stud3.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3 (PHNE_29774)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24825; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:59:39 +0200 (METDST) To: "Dylan Rogers" References: <7edd03a20607261232q6c0d121ap2e79bababbc6a4b0@mail.gmail.com> From: Harald Muehlboeck Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:02:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <7edd03a20607261232q6c0d121ap2e79bababbc6a4b0@mail.gmail.com> (Dylan Rogers's message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:32:00 -0500") Message-ID: <863bcffoa6.fsf@tuha.clef.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD = Free Software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:59:45 -0000 Dylan Rogers writes: > Does FreeBSD contain only free software? see FreeBSD contains software licensed under BSD-License, LGPL, GPL (which restricts redistribution without making the source code available), IP-FILTER (which does not expictly allow to make changes to the code), Sendmail, ISC-Licensed Software like BIND, ... It depends on your point of view, if you call these licenses =BBfree=AB. Maybe you will prefer OpenBSD: =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 10:10:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72E16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0375543D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so6455pyb for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=AlzeFpSNaIpx7ToH4ZaUZChrPC6wY5M/Hlk2tN/lwbTkI1/WUiVtyptg+Az/GxKQ1RaAE4JRloAiF5CyIlGPNj1VlGKeUelzuj4JGkuoNjIboOB/weIwUv5NHCN9hq10PVOjtghrJ8wzstkzKnokTow4QN/HO2x9AW56BkqRmpQ= Received: by 10.35.22.17 with SMTP id z17mr1171115pyi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.93.8 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <146805bd0608020310i120c41afy684a299cf4908c44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:10:36 +0400 From: "Eugeny Kuzakov" Sender: eugeny.kuzakov@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 242e7e36583a45f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel debug questions: dual serial console&&gdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:10:37 -0000 hi guys! I have some problems w/ promise SATAII tx2plus and blutooth stack under -current&-stable. I want enable serial console then run gdb at time of kernel panics/etc... I have entered following: 1. /boot/loader.conf: ... comconsole_speed="115200" console="comconsole" ... 2. cat /boot.config (I also tried -D -h) -h I can see output if FreeBSD loader, but: 1. I cann't see kerel output to console on the serial console. 2. I cann't control gdb on serial console in case of panic Thank you. -- Best wishes, Coredumped. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 10:14:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E9C16A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjkarki@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F56543D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:14:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mjkarki@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1850218uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:14:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=U+C5oisBk39O+BHjl7MrLKTnQDgJmnUm/cePup9PbWU9akvLHNDkvjX/b4D/EsVZhPx1DE+f93Q62TTxlkLtiGygKTttvOu+NnB361w8qyTOWDXh2T4X/Y0Wa0+qKNmUeKHYiUxPJD3WF24khUNeo0syG8QiNJ0N79bnQObIRjw= Received: by 10.66.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr804635ugg; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.7 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 03:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b15366e0608020314y1d54a12fv77b066c0a8bbe020@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:14:12 +0300 From: "Matti J. Karki" Sender: mjkarki@gmail.com To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 454048ee061e6942 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help troubleshooting man X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:14:13 -0000 On 8/1/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > i remember a thread from a few weeks back, that i followed closely, but > was never able to resolve my issue as the original poster did. i have a > 6.1-STABLE system that the bulk of my mans to not work, but some that are > recently installed from ports are working. can someone guide me thru > trouble shooting this issue? > I managed to get this kind of situation by installing first the "minimal set" (or "distribution") and then installing everything else from the ports. The minimal installation set does not have man pages. To get small - but fully functional - installation, I had to install the "User set", which contains the required binaries and all relevant documentation files. Maybe re-running the sysinstall and selecting appropriate distribution set could help? -Matti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 11:10:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B46E16A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E8943D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:10:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1871384uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.98.4 with SMTP id a4mr1120425qbm; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19sm3300397qbe.2006.08.02.04.10.38; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB6DC1E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:11:00 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060802070128.C4DD.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:10:40 -0000 Garance A Drosehn wrote: > On August 1/2006, I (Garance) wrote: > > > >Check to see if you have multiple versions of 'lpr' > >running. *If* you do, then the results that you see > >will probably depend on which version you run. > > What I meant to say was: Check to see if you have > multiple versions of `lpr' *installed*. See what > you get from the command: > > type -a lpr I just tried running apsfilter again. It successfully printed out a test page. However, when I told it to install the information into the /etc/printcap file, this error message was displayed: Aug 2 06:58:51 seibercom checkpc[27640]: lp: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/dev/null' failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device ** done. What is that all about? This is the contents of the /etc/printcap file: # APS1_BEGIN:printer1 # - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1 # - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL lp|bj8pa06n.upp;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # APS1_END - don't delete this -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 11:10:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C774E16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2457143D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1871390uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.59.19 with SMTP id m19mr975399qbk; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e13sm3328216qbe.2006.08.02.04.10.38; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21FFC087 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:11:00 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060802064311.C4D8.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Subject: Re: Unable to Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:10:41 -0000 Garance A Drosehn wrote: > On August 1/2006, I (Garance) wrote: > > > >Check to see if you have multiple versions of 'lpr' > >running. *If* you do, then the results that you see > >will probably depend on which version you run. > > What I meant to say was: Check to see if you have > multiple versions of `lpr' *installed*. See what > you get from the command: > > type -a lpr OK, first of all, I just installed LPRng and had it replace my base lpr system. However, the same error message is repeated. type -a lpr lpr is /usr/local/bin/lpr lpr is /usr/bin/lpr type lpr lpr is hashed (/usr/local/bin/lpr) OK, so now what do I do? -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 11:15:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E9E16A4E5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781E843D79 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so219781qbd for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.112.5 with SMTP id p5mr1082262qbm; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19sm1748779qba.2006.08.02.04.15.24; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A20C087; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:15:47 -0400 From: Gerard To: "jan gestre" Organization: Seibercom.NET In-Reply-To: References: <20060801075743.F633.GERARD@seibercom.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060802071237.C4E7.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsdb output and portaudit question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:15:31 -0000 "jan gestre" > > the box's running for almost 2 months now setup as webmail server, the > > only thing i removed was the linux compatible applications since i have no > > plans of installing linux. i ran pkgdb -F and pkgdb -fu to no avail, after > > doing cvsup this morning, ran portsdb -Uu, i still see those message looking > > for packages that wasn't even installed. i don't see any strange behavior > > for the server except those mentioned here. could these be detrimental? I have no idea. However, if the system appears to be stable then I assume you could just ignore it. I guess removing things from the base installation was not such a good idea though. -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | gerard@seibercom.net |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +======================================================================+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 11:26:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F56016A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4352943D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:26:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72BPtxO052162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:25:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=neutral X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k72BPtxO052162 Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k72BPtgt052161; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:25:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:25:55 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Chandan Haldar Message-ID: <20060802112555.GA49403@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Chandan Haldar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44CF05A7.902@ieee.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44CF05A7.902@ieee.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:26:10 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1631/Wed Aug 2 11:33:38 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox 1.5.0.5 port build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:26:18 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:11:27PM +0530, Chandan Haldar wrote: > Having another crack at building firefox 1.5 on FreeBSD 6.0 Release... > Anyone knows what this cryptic error could be due to? Thanks in advance. >=20 > Chandan >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Extracting for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 > =3D> Checksum OK for firefox-1.5.0.5-source.tar.bz2. > =3D=3D=3D> firefox-1.5.0.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 = - found > =3D=3D=3D> Patching for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 > =3D=3D=3D> firefox-1.5.0.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.7 = - found > =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for firefox-1.5.0.5,1 > -e: not found > *** Error code 127 >=20 > Stop in /home/newports/www/firefox. This is usually a symptom of not updating the whole ports tree. If I remember correctly, the trouble is caused by a missing definition of one of the standard command variables from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. In this case it seems it would be one of either the SED or the REINPLACE_CMD -- happy-idiot-talk:...ports/www/firefox:% grep -e '-e ' Makefile @${SED} -e 's|@FIREFOX_ICON@|${FIREFOX_ICON}|' \ @${REINPLACE_CMD} -e '/accessibility.typeaheadfind.enablesound/s/true/false/ ; \ So make(1) is trying to run '-e' as a command, and that doesn't work. =46rom the firefox port directory, try running: make -V SED -V REINPLACE_CMD If the result is not the same as this: happy-idiot-talk:...ports/www/firefox:% make -V SED -V REINPLACE_CMD=20 /usr/bin/sed /usr/bin/sed -i.bak then you need to track down exactly where SED or REINPLACE_CMD are being mangled, and fix that. Check for potential breakage in /etc/make.conf, and use cvsup or portsnap or your method of choice to grab a clean copy of the whole ports tree. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0IvD8Mjk52CukIwRAkwSAJ9IlV/FFY+fKZMz8IGdJpFFDMLB5gCfWAh8 Hgyi/BBNZUN+7HnwDxOtkn0= =hIQP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:10:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6C416A4E9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD3B43D60 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:10:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:09:59 -0400 id 00056419.44D09617.00014D18 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 08:06:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:10:01 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Jonathan Horne Message-Id: <20060802081001.afef1b9c.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> References: <200608012048.48630.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a good web statistics port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:10:05 -0000 In response to Jonathan Horne : > i would really prefer awstats, but its been > in "command injection" limbo forever. awstats isn't nearly as dangerous as the advisories make it out. The last few security problems only apply to systems where awstats is configured to allow you to updated the statistics from the web browser. This is not the default configuration on FreeBSD. Personally, I don't need "up to the minute" stats, so all the machines it runs on for me just update it from cron every night. In that configuration, it's not vulnerable to anything. I believe this has been the case with the last 2 or 3 security problems that have been announced for awstats. I'm not aware of any security issues if you have the web-update disabled. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:12:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7504616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B9643D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:12:42 -0400 id 00056429.44D096BA.00014D83 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 08:09:04 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:12:44 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Mark Powell" Message-Id: <20060802081244.32894939.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802094019.O16501@rust.salford.ac.uk> References: <20060801133245.B9668@rust.salford.ac.uk> <20060801085450.56eadfe5.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20060802094019.O16501@rust.salford.ac.uk> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using dnscache locally with FBSD 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:12:43 -0000 In response to "Mark Powell" : > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Bill Moran wrote: > > >> However, I use svscan to start up dnscache, and that starts very late in > >> the boot. That means I can't just have the single "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > >> line in resolv.conf, as every lookup would timeout until dnscache started. > >> That means I need to replace resolv.conf early in the boot with the > >> addresses of remote dns caches: > > > > Have you investigated the possibility of moving svscan's startup earlier in > > the boot sequence? I don't know whether the svscan startup script is rcng > > compliant yet, but if it is, you could move it to /etc/rc.d and move it > > _way_ up in the startup sequence. > > I think it is rcng compliant. However, once in /etc/rc.d, how is the order > of execution determined? I expect I will need to get it to run about the > same time that named is usually started. Have a look at the man page for rcorder. IIRC, that covers it pretty well. > > Another option is to put addresses that need to resolve before svscan has > > started into /etc/hosts so that they don't need DNS. This could be > > a maintenance nightmare, though, if there are many addresses. > > That sounds like a nightmare :( > Cheers. It was a thought. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:22:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E1D16A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: from web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05EC643D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:22:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: (qmail 70877 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 12:22:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.se; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PzaiksqDNgPxOY1dryapfw+iBOHg4mgQwpnMP1xomV361kWmHjBp/kUK5o4u3/Jq6HhJEyh+NKAyYj9VHAaldh0avJj6Hs/e8CqF3YWryqJS1QhfhC3IrxZxLOAHNJxOePw97Vwc/3gfmdGALcu+N8950Yo0hqL5VrxzXBTF584= ; Message-ID: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.243.12.133] by web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:22:18 CEST Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:22:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Bobby Knight To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:22:20 -0000 Hello Newly installed 6.1. Barely touched ports so one would expect it to work, yet it fails brutally for me as a new user when I do portupgrade -arR just to upgrade a few packages. I have no clue why and what to do so I am hoping someone here knows. Can't see what I have done wrong. I have followed the available ports docs/mans slavishly. That is always cvsup ports and do a portsdb -Fu; portaudit -Fa before upgrade as well as read UPDATING. The info I've managed to gather is listed below. I don't want to retry the installation and maybe screw up things more before I ask you guys. Problem seems to be with pkg-config or pkgconfig....... pkgconfig puzzles me. There exits no port of this in the tree yet it somehow is a package now. Thanks. syscons buffer contents related to error I could get: ---> Installing the new version via the port ===> Installing for pkg-config-0.20_2 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if devel/pkg-config already installed ===> pkg-config-0.20_2 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of devel/pkg-config without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade42339.5 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes reinstall egrep: /var/db/pkg/pkgconfig-0.20/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory ---> Restoring the old version ** Fix the installation problem and try again. [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 45 packages found (- 0 +1) . done] ---> Skipping 'devel/pkg-config' (pkg-config-0.20_2) because it has already fai led portversion -vl "<": fontconfig-2.3.2_3,1 < needs updating (port has 2.3.2_5,1) linux_base-8-8.0_14 < needs updating (port has 8.0_16) pkgconfig-0.20 < needs updating (port has 0.20_2) xorg-clients-6.9.0_2 < needs updating (port has 6.9.0_3) xorg-printserver-6.9.0 < needs updating (port has 6.9.0_1) xorg-server-6.9.0_1 < needs updating (port has 6.9.0_4) xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0 < needs updating (port has 6.9.0_1) xterm-206_1 < needs updating (port has 215) pkg_info: bash-3.1.17 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell bitstream-vera-1.10_2 Bitstream Vera TrueType font collection cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2 General network file distribution system optimized for CVS db41-4.1.25_3 The Berkeley DB package, revision 4.1 expat-2.0.0_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C fontconfig-2.3.2_3,1 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows freetype2-2.1.10_3 A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine gettext-0.14.5_2 GNU gettext package gmake-3.81_1 GNU version of 'make' utility imake-6.9.0 Imake and other utilities from X.Org jpeg-6b_4 IJG's jpeg compression utilities libXft-2.1.7_1 A client-sided font API for X applications libdrm-2.0.2 Userspace interface to kernel Direct Rendering Module servi libiconv-1.9.2_2 A character set conversion library libtool-1.5.22_2 Generic shared library support script links-2.1.p21,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser linux_base-8-8.0_14 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) lynx-ssl-2.8.5_2 A non-graphical, text-based World-Wide Web client with SSL pcre-6.7 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library perl-5.8.8 Practical Extraction and Report Language pkg-config-0.20_2 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries pkgconfig-0.20 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries png-1.2.12_1 Library for manipulating PNG images portaudit-0.5.11 Checks installed ports against a list of security vulnerabi portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management too l s ruby-1.8.4_9,1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2 Ruby interface to Sleepycat's Berkeley DB revision 2 or lat tiff-3.8.2 Tools and library routines for working with TIFF images xorg-clients-6.9.0_2 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-nestserver-6.9.0 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.9.0 X Print server from X.Org xorg-server-6.9.0_1 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xterm-206_1 Terminal emulator for the X Window System pkg_which pkg-config: pkg-config-0.20_2 pkgconfig-0.20 pkg_which pkgconfig: pkgconfig: not found Also, when I check deps and reqs for pkg-config there exits none. Yet when I do the same for pkgconfig they appear. Ports collection on net shows for example xorg-server depending on pkg-config, in my tree it depends on pkgconfig. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:29:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C2C16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D1543D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8Fqo-0006u4-5X; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:29:26 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8Fqn-00055R-LK; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:29:25 +0100 Message-ID: <44D09AA5.1000507@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:29:25 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20060801200042.8af51559.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801200042.8af51559.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:29:28 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: >RW wrote: > > > >>On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:39, Efren Bravo wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this >>>message for several months: sis0 watchdog >>>timeout. >>> >>>The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and >>>vr0 (10mb). >>> >>>The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got >>>my attention. What does this mean? >>> >>> >>from sis(4) >> sis%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the net- >> work, or there is a problem with the network connection (e.g. a cable >> fault). >> >> > >I've seen this frequently with sis cards. My opinion is that all sis >cards are cheapo crap, and watchdog timer is a workaround to try to make >them work in spite of being crap. I've seen sis cards in Windows machines >and they perform lousy there as well. > > I always got these errors on sis cards too - always ignored then. Worked fine for me on a lightly loaded network. If you start getting real symptoms - card locking up for example - then you;ll have to get a better network card. But unless and until that happens I would ignore it. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:34:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4588616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: from smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC96943D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:34:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hackmiester@hackmiester.com) Received: (qmail 21795 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 12:34:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (67.32.30.218) by smtpout06-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.227) with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2006 12:34:41 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20060802005403.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200608020205.k7225Fs5023711@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20060802005403.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:34:39 -0500 To: User Freebsd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Cc: Olivier Nicole , roberthuff@rcn.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:34:43 -0000 On 1 August 2006, at 22:55, User Freebsd wrote: > > If you want a truly user-friendly spam/virus solution, check out: > > http://www.renaissoft.com/maia/ > > I have this backing >200 VPS, including postgresql.org itself, and > its literally a dream Misuse of literally - but I can second that recommendation :-P > , as it allows *each user* to individually tailor their settings ... > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >>> 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is >>> fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. >> >> SpamAssassin itself is written in Perl... But it can be run on a >> remote server, it does not have to be on the machine running >> sendmail. >> >>> 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I >>> have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more >>> frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. >> >> I think stock sendmail is installed with milter, so it is only a >> matter aof configuration, not of compiling. >> >> Olivier >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// > www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . > scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:49:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD4516A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2AD43D5C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8G9v-0005Wl-RL; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:11 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8G9v-0001Zb-Ay; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:49:10 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:49:17 -0000 Atom Powers wrote: > > It's still going to take you at least a release to get it into the > base install. But if you can find a way to use the portsnap data and > get useful information out of the cvsup data you can probably get > numbers now with an error margin as low as 8% to 15%. Hey, I said that a week ago! Guess I agree with you :-) Not quite convinced by the error margin, but as long as you count too low then I see no problem. If, as Nikolas pointed out, a URL-based reporting scheme can be bombarded with fakes, as a vendor I would not want to listen to any numbers it produced. But the question then goes back to: can you make any kind of count out of cvsup servers? Someone already said they thought you couldn't. At the end of the day, I think that unique IP address is as close as it's possible to get to host count. It will undercount NATed hosts and networks with single cvsup/portsnap distribution points, and will overcount variable IP addresses. The latter, I think matters the least as long as you do your stats over a short enough period (e.g. 1 month). That wouldn't overcount much and deliberate faking would be hard and limited (how many IP addresses can one faker get access to?). Then, as long as the methodology is clearly explained along with any stats, you'd have the ammunition to persuade vendors (we hope). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 12:53:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99F16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAC643D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:53:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so642613nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=GMlt7g2QEtykQhYUADyxQ8YOXIIabaN1D1n5qIOskfncpNhx0D2qv0y+kQ5oyetpXTxArVc4iM36r1Rsr/9KA2S0WaQFaujo7Ik3EpSYCLCf0xpw/9M9/R5zdCPch1QS6T9b3TsZkHMGUg8aPOaxt65DjkoOIQ05wpIul/sm9mo= Received: by 10.49.75.2 with SMTP id c2mr2076608nfl; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34sm84826nfc.2006.08.02.05.53.21; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:53:07 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart26883079.VbQyzc2JmW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608021553.19086.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Changing user password from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:53:24 -0000 --nextPart26883079.VbQyzc2JmW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:48, Mike Fern wrote: > Dear all, > Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from > command line? > We can add a user using single line pw (pw useradd), but i need > ability to set the password also, instead of old command "passwd user" > and then writing to stdin. > > Any ideas, suggestion? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" man pw Look for -h option description. -- Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) 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Processed in 0.098342 secs); 02 Aug 2006 12:53:20 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu) (192.168.80.2) by smtp.gcc.cu with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 08:53:19 -0400 Received: from dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu (localhost.dhl.gcc.cu [127.0.0.1]) by dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k72CqiIO050386 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:52:47 -0400 (CDT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu) Received: (from www@localhost) by dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k72CqcV1050383; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:52:38 -0400 (CDT) (envelope-from efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu) X-Authentication-Warning: dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu: www set sender to efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu using -f Received: from 7.96.160.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user efrenba) by dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:52:34 -0400 (CDT) Message-ID: <3801.7.96.160.15.1154523154.squirrel@dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu> In-Reply-To: <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> References: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:52:34 -0400 (CDT) From: efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1630/Tue Aug 1 11:38:56 2006 on dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:54:06 -0000 > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:39, Efren Bravo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this >> message for several months: sis0 watchdog >> timeout. >> >> The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and >> vr0 (10mb). >> >> The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got >> my attention. What does this mean? > > from sis(4) > sis%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the > net- > work, or there is a problem with the network connection (e.g. a cable > fault). The motherboard is http://www.eprom.com/home/Microstar/ms7005.htm The PC has been up for 119 days and nobody have reported me a network interruption. I've just changed the cable, so I'll wait to see if the system raises more watchdog messages. In the console I see only two messages: april 20 | july 4. Thanks to all for your time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:02:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E73216A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9D543D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:02:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:02:53 -0400 id 00056429.44D0A27D.000152CA Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 08:59:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:02:53 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu Message-Id: <20060802090253.dbc0c5d1.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <3801.7.96.160.15.1154523154.squirrel@dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu> References: <20060801193945.83338.qmail@web25219.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608020052.23836.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <3801.7.96.160.15.1154523154.squirrel@dhlgw.dhl.gcc.cu> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: watchdog question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:02:54 -0000 In response to efrenba@dhl.gcc.cu: > > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 20:39, Efren Bravo wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've a freeBSD box and I've been seeing this > >> message for several months: sis0 watchdog > >> timeout. > >> > >> The box has two ethernet cards, sis0 (100mb) and > >> vr0 (10mb). > >> > >> The messages isn't frequent but yesterday it got > >> my attention. What does this mean? > > > > from sis(4) > > sis%d: watchdog timeout The device has stopped responding to the > > net- > > work, or there is a problem with the network connection (e.g. a cable > > fault). > > The motherboard is http://www.eprom.com/home/Microstar/ms7005.htm > > The PC has been up for 119 days and nobody have reported me a network > interruption. > > I've just changed the cable, so I'll wait to see if the system raises more > watchdog messages. In the console I see only two messages: april 20 | july > 4. It won't help. I wouldn't waste your time if I were you. I've dealt with these MSI boards in the past, and they're cheap luhsuh. Again, my understanding is that the ethernet card is crap, and occasionally just wedges of its own accord. After a few milliseconds, the watchdog goes off and triggers a hardware reset. A few packets get dropped and need resent, but TCP is a "reliable" protocol so nobody notices. Want to see just how bad the card is? Do some performance tests and see how close to the theoretical network maximum you can get on data transfers. If I remember correctly, we only got about 50% of was the card _should_ have been able to accomplish. The difference between the drivers provided by SIS and those built in to FreeBSD is that the SiS drivers for Windows will never tell you what's going on, whereas the FreeBSD drivers will log every time a hardware reset is required. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:03:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73EC16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx3.partners.org (phsmgmx3.partners.org [155.52.251.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E2D43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:03:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx3.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BCD544820F; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx3.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0D44481C6; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k72D4aOa069009; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:04:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:03:07 -0400 To: Richard Morse X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:03:14 -0000 On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Richard Morse wrote: > Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports > system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL was > behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found that > every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes > every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the > databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts > climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to > recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of queries to > this database start not returning -- they take forever. By > climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which > normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. > > - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to > happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following > line to /etc/rc.conf: Hi! Since this time, I have, I think, found what query is causing the problem: SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 LIMIT 0, 1 How can I determine _why_ this is causing MySQL to hang/enter some kind of infinite loop? Thanks, Ricky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:09:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A4516A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBF343D58 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:09:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so646792nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YtFBlSjvghLhAxoYwDk9RA3Ag2InEWCmYJmZ7TxngektKo90lGwmDuiFJ/d/UBVtELY8j6oUndVdNtuvgb2d3Flpnxws8g9/l9wGm8RtchlVEyGl7fExUS5GUpyZX0o7WYiCPqnZYDgJwbGhEhsM3mjA3jFdAM6bDuJRbbFFoi0= Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr2114400nfk; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:09:15 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "N. Harrington" In-Reply-To: <20060802030507.82549.qmail@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060802030507.82549.qmail@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:09:26 -0000 Nicole, On 02/08/06, N. Harrington wrote: > > Hi > I have several web servers that are attached to a > Netapp (network appliance) unit via NFS-3. A few > servers are 5.5 and a few are 6.1 for comparison > testing. All seem to have lousy performance. We have a similar setup and it runs smoothly. Can you define "lousy performance" ? Can you give more details on your network? Are you using Gig ethernet? And over what medium? Can you also try just copying a 100MB file from the filer to one of the web servers and record the time? Are you running nfsiod? When > going through the issues with Netapp, the reasons > given were that we have too many GettAdr/Lookup > requests compared to actual reads. So all the NFS IOPS > are being used up by these requests. As soon as the > webservers get busy, requests pile up. > > I have tried everything I can think of. The web > servers are even mounted read only with no help. > > My current mount options are: > filer:/vol/fvol31 /home/13/13 nfs > ro,noatime,-r=32768,-T,-b,-R0,-i,-D2,-L 0 0 Mounting noatime for web servers is a good idea but... your "noatime" option has no effect on NFS mounts (check out the mount man page). You need "vol options no_atime_update" on the NetApp. Any advice for sysctl tunes or anything else would be > much appreciatted! > > Thanks > > Nicole > One last thing - are you female?! In a UNIX newsgroup?! Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:14:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE3F16A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: from mailblade1.worldispnetwork.com (mailblade1.worldispnetwork.com [216.219.94.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D76CC43D62 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:14:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@rithy4u.net) Received: (qmail 33748 invoked by uid 398); 2 Aug 2006 13:14:20 -0000 Received: from ( [unknown]) by 216.219.94.118 (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:20 +0000 Message-ID: <20060802131420.79edspqrwgok4s8s@216.219.94.118> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:20 +0000 From: root@rithy4u.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) Subject: Telecom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:14:20 -0000 Dear All, Can we use FreeBSD in Telecom industry? If I want to build an Internet Backbone which connect across country in asia. Is it suitable? How is its stability of routing compare to Cisco? Rgds, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:18:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC3D16A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luka@vts.dmls.com.ua) Received: from ns.dmls.com.ua (pilot2.mk.farlep.net [213.130.12.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D589943D6A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:18:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luka@vts.dmls.com.ua) Received: from spamfilter (localhost.dmls.com.ua [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83C255881C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns.dmls.com.ua (localhost.dmls.com.ua [127.0.0.1]) by ns.dmls.com.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69908558811 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from proxy2 (unknown [10.10.10.100]) by ns.dmls.com.ua (Postfix) with SMTP id 50152558808 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by proxy2 (Kerio MailServer 6.0.7) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:18:39 +0300 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:18:18 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?y/Pq/P/t5e3q7iDA6+Xq8eDt5PA=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.04) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?w88gw8zL0Q==?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <982485817.20060802161818@vts.dmls.com.ua> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: -=Onix=- X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on ns.dmls.com.ua X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40,FROM_LOCAL autolearn=no version=3.0.2 X-Spam-REMOTEHOSTIP: 127.0.0.1 Subject: 2 Gateways. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?y/Pq/P/t5e3q7iDA6+Xq8eDt5PA=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:18:48 -0000 Hi, all! Problem: PC with FreeBSD, there are 2 gateway GW1 and GW2, GW1 is default. Need: Queries that come from GW2 goes through GW2, not through default. How can I do it? -- mailto:luka@vts.dmls.com.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:30:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EB316A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383143D6E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:29:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-24-243-189-26.hot.res.rr.com [24.243.189.26]) by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72DTvNF000923 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:29:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Mutt by mutt-smtp-wrapper.pl 1.2 (www.zdo.com/articles/mutt-smtp-wrapper.shtml) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:30:17 -0500 From: Kevin Monceaux To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060802133017.GA3940@RawFedDogs.net> References: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Subject: Re: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin@RawFedDogs.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:30:02 -0000 Bobby, On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 02:22:18PM +0200, Bobby Knight wrote: > Hello Newly installed 6.1. I recently said hello to a newly installed FreeBSD 6.1 myself. > Barely touched ports so one would expect it to work, That sounds like a reasonable expectation for FreeBSD. I'm new to FreeBSD myself. For the most part I've found it quite stable. I've been a Linux user for years(since the 1.x kernel days) and after only a few days of tinkering with FreeBSD on a test box I'm just about ready to switch my main box over to FreeBSD. > yet it fails brutally for me as a new user when I do portupgrade -arR > just to upgrade a few packages. I experienced a similar failure to the one you describe, although I didn't find it all that brutal. After a few tries I managed to get past it. > I have no clue why and what to do so I am hoping someone here knows. I don't really have a clue as to why myself but I'll tell you what worked for me. There may be a better solution to this and if so hopefully someone with more knowledge than I will point it out. To improve your chances of getting the answers you need you might want to consider paying attention to the guidelines posted occasionally, especially the part about including line breaks. Such a post can be found at: http://Lists.FreeBSD.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-July/126199.html Reformatting your post so I could reply to it took a bit of time. Since I had a similar problem I took the time to reformat your message and reply to it with the hope that it will encourage someone who might not otherwise have repiled to provide more information and a better solution to the problem. > Can't see what I have done wrong. My guess is you haven't done anything wrong. I had the same problem. > That is always cvsup ports and do a portsdb -Fu; portaudit -Fa before > upgrade as well as read UPDATING. I use portsnap myself and just installed portupgrade and portaudit yesterday. I'm still learning all the proper steps necessary to keep my system up to date. > Checking if devel/pkg-config already installed ===> pkg-config-0.20_2 > is already installed > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make > reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. I tried a 'make deinstall' then 'make reinstall' as the error message suggested. It didn't help. Then, I tried a 'make deinstall' followed by a 'portupgrade -aRr' which appeared to get around the problem. Portupgrade installed the version of pkg-config it really wanted and upgraded everything successfully. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:35:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445A16A500 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE3B43D55 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B9ED9302C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:35:03 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: rbiKTQ6xCIJ8rOeo36zh+z4p7CvnSxeAAn3S1eWRVlPp 1154525702 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3679BB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:35:01 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:34:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021434.56075.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:35:05 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 13:22, Bobby Knight wrote: > Hello Newly installed 6.1. Barely touched ports so one would expect it > to work, yet it fails brutally for me as a new user when I do portupgrade > -arR just to upgrade a few packages. I have no clue why and what to do > so I am hoping someone here knows. Can't see what I have done wrong. I > have followed the available ports docs/mans slavishly. > > That is always cvsup ports and do a portsdb -Fu; portaudit -Fa before > upgrade as well as read UPDATING. The info I've managed to gather is > listed below. I don't want to retry the installation and maybe screw up > things more before I ask you guys. Problem seems to be with pkg-config or > pkgconfig....... pkgconfig puzzles me. There > > exits no port of this in the tree yet it somehow is a package now. $ grep pkgconfig /usr/ports/MOVED devel/pkgconfig|devel/pkg-config|2006-05-27|Renamed to use real vendor package name You can probably just pkg_delete pkgconfig, and fix-up the dependencies. Between the two you probably need to install the new version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:37:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A84016A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549743D96 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:36:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1938623uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JhA3iaIU3SXY+LoDOr0pFV0nBIt0vcT26IEJfagkHYB2/kIN8CMRna/nYKYdOqSxw5hk/eLsisQddTjDVNJOfJACjBhfmRDnI9euYEXcD+iar4F0FMWz0vQzH4704xjpBG1QiTVGPUAzy4hpuha+AsADT2K4FBLHm7BP1ume+28= Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr1004791ugm; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:36:48 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:37:13 -0000 Not sure, seems more of a mysql question, but here's some guesses I have for diagnostics. could you run these queries? SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE status < 3 SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessiions WHERE sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" SELECT COUNT(*) FROM FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 -Jim Stapleton On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Richard Morse wrote: > > > Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports > > system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL was > > behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found that > > every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes > > every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the > > databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts > > climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to > > recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of queries to > > this database start not returning -- they take forever. By > > climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which > > normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. > > > > - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to > > happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following > > line to /etc/rc.conf: > > Hi! Since this time, I have, I think, found what query is causing > the problem: > > SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid > WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 > LIMIT 0, 1 > > How can I determine _why_ this is causing MySQL to hang/enter some > kind of infinite loop? > > Thanks, > Ricky > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:42:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3AB16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B0A43D60 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E9B5E8B; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:42:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UgNVoUAV2HL7; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-117-245.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.117.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590815E7C; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44D0ABB1.9070307@mac.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:42:09 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lorin Lund References: <44D06735.40603@infowest.com> In-Reply-To: <44D06735.40603@infowest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc: cpp pre-defined variables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:42:24 -0000 Lorin Lund wrote: > How can I find all the variables that are pre-defined in the pre-processor. > > Do these come from a configuration file? Or are the compiled in to cpp when > it is ported to a platform? Something like: touch test.h; cpp -dM test.h ...will show you all of the predefined macros. These are compiled into the compiler when the toolchain is built. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:54:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375CD16A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5608043D72 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:54:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C815EF1; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:54:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id os5VJN9lLXYq; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.251] (pool-68-161-117-245.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.117.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258AA5C33; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <44D0AE9A.8080300@mac.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:54:34 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Radford References: <00e401c6b610$563a9690$0d07a8c0@P800> In-Reply-To: <00e401c6b610$563a9690$0d07a8c0@P800> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Understanding top and memory usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:54:50 -0000 Philip Radford wrote: [ ... ] > When using the top command I get the following in regards to memory usage. > > Mem: 223M Active, 970M Inact, 175M Wired, 50M Cache, 112M Buf, 73M Free > Swap: 3029M Total, 12K Used, 3029M Free > > Can someone advise me which figure relates to actual physical memory > which is available. I can't work out if it is the 970M Inact or the 73M > Free (i.e. the last figure). The 73MB free is the amount of completely unused physical RAM available, but the system can use memory from the 970MB of inactive if needed to run new programs, otherwise that serves as a cache of already-accessed process and file data. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:56:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6997016A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9486143D73 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:56:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1948715uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tJiK/xj0cyW4RTNYnEQNnUNHHeascBby02yOAXrIZ6EMKm57BB8z9z9I/xAthx122U4LzaTYhPFVC2VXDk2awHbD+wqBha9OEmjtI+aKe1oH1GBP5NGVgjuvdfgQhrllQP1Ln8RewI/K6+8ySEi1PMPmORrCn/BODbckyYOjkLg= Received: by 10.67.93.6 with SMTP id v6mr1045875ugl; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20608020656v41c31ac3jc7fdbaf52aded32f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:56:14 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: anyone have any luck on installing FreeBSD on a SATA drive on an Adaptec 1205SA card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:56:19 -0000 I got this thinking adaptec would make their own chip, turns out it is a SiL 3112 (I got it to hopefully end the issues I was having with the SiL 2114 on my motherboard, turns out I just ended up with more). Anyway, while this new chip fixed the issues of write errors in windows, BSD cannot boot with the card installed, except in safe mode, and even then the installer hanges at random intervals. Any fix suggestions? The motherboard is an ABit NF7-S. The drive is a Seagate and was used for a FreeBSD install on an ASUS A8N-E motherboard, quite successfully. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:59:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A9A16A500 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CE643DBE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:58:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from arwen.nagual.nl (arwen.nagual.nl [192.168.11.29]) by nagual.nl with esmtp; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:58:09 +0200 id 0003980D.44D0AF71.00003BAD Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:58:10 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: fbsdq Message-Id: <20060802155810.c38cfaef.dick@nagual.nl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: options VESA SC_PIXEL_MODE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:59:05 -0000 I followed some advice on how to get higher resolutions on the console for my 1280x1024 LCD monitor. I recompiled the kernel with options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE After a vidcontrol MODE_282 I get a 1280x1024 console. Nice, but the characters are just "fat" compared to the chars I get in Xorg running the same resolution setting (those terminal chars are very sharp). Furthermore it "feels" as though the screen has become a little slower then without vesa and sc_pixel_mode (in the console). Can this be? Or is this just my imagination. The console resolution has to be delt with because the default font is really HUGE ;-) Question: is VESA the way to go or is it better to leave this out of the kernel and do just something with the buildin "-f" (font) in vidcontrol. I have font8x8/8x14/8x16 in my /etc/rc.conf Your comments and advise please. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 13:59:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE3A16A503 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (phsmgmx4.partners.org [155.52.251.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301C43DCA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:58:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B8DC1883C6; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx4.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5FA1883C5; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k72DxbDD069410; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:59:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:58:08 -0400 To: Jim Stapleton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:59:06 -0000 Hi! All of these queries worked just fine, without causing any problems. As this is more of a mysql issue, do you have any suggestions where it would be best for me to query them? Thanks, Ricky On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: > Not sure, seems more of a mysql question, but here's some guesses I > have for diagnostics. > > could you run these queries? > > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE status < 3 > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessiions WHERE sid = > "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = > s.uid WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < > 3 > > -Jim Stapleton > > > > On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: >> >> On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Richard Morse wrote: >> >> > Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports >> > system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL was >> > behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found that >> > every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes >> > every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the >> > databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts >> > climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to >> > recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of queries to >> > this database start not returning -- they take forever. By >> > climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which >> > normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. >> > >> > - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to >> > happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following >> > line to /etc/rc.conf: >> >> Hi! Since this time, I have, I think, found what query is causing >> the problem: >> >> SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid >> WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 >> LIMIT 0, 1 >> >> How can I determine _why_ this is causing MySQL to hang/enter some >> kind of infinite loop? >> >> Thanks, >> Ricky >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:00:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF7216A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE2443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Kevin@RawFedDogs.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-24-243-189-26.hot.res.rr.com [24.243.189.26]) by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72DxtBS013700 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:59:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Mutt by mutt-smtp-wrapper.pl 1.2 (www.zdo.com/articles/mutt-smtp-wrapper.shtml) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:00:16 -0500 From: Kevin Monceaux To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060802140016.GA4418@RawFedDogs.net> References: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608021434.56075.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200608021434.56075.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Subject: Re: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin@RawFedDogs.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:00:11 -0000 On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 02:34:46PM +0100, RW wrote: > $ grep pkgconfig /usr/ports/MOVED > devel/pkgconfig|devel/pkg-config|2006-05-27|Renamed to use real vendor > package name > > You can probably just pkg_delete pkgconfig, and fix-up the dependencies. > Between the two you probably need to install the new version. Would: portupgrade -f -o pkgconfig pkg-config be the "correct" way to fix such a problem? Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:00:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E2D16A527 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797443D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so233550qbd for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ED0Nh3hol8MoiLnjzU3pHY6QiGoV0K1lBwoNfLl2crLkexOAjxxJplsurOdvTCt4VHFG03WmGhP65J6zLuOtFmn8HFsV+yJSJCPIXOoksz1yq2x0NYG+yBwJ4iOm8VjfAeLqPdcbVJD7LMLKTceH63eMAgcxTGBIfLsxvBcbvBo= Received: by 10.66.240.12 with SMTP id n12mr1048062ugh; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:00:01 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:00:35 -0000 I thought there were mysql forums, but I am not sure. In the queries I gave you, none of the results were too large I take it (not above the low thousands)? -Jim Stapleton On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: > Hi! All of these queries worked just fine, without causing any > problems. > > As this is more of a mysql issue, do you have any suggestions where > it would be best for me to query them? > > Thanks, > Ricky > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: > > > Not sure, seems more of a mysql question, but here's some guesses I > > have for diagnostics. > > > > could you run these queries? > > > > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE status < 3 > > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessiions WHERE sid = > > "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" > > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = > > s.uid WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < > > 3 > > > > -Jim Stapleton > > > > > > > > On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Richard Morse wrote: > >> > >> > Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports > >> > system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL was > >> > behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found that > >> > every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes > >> > every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the > >> > databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts > >> > climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to > >> > recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of queries to > >> > this database start not returning -- they take forever. By > >> > climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which > >> > normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. > >> > > >> > - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to > >> > happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following > >> > line to /etc/rc.conf: > >> > >> Hi! Since this time, I have, I think, found what query is causing > >> the problem: > >> > >> SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid > >> WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 > >> LIMIT 0, 1 > >> > >> How can I determine _why_ this is causing MySQL to hang/enter some > >> kind of infinite loop? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Ricky > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:08:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF4316A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AF6F43D5D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:08:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 13214 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 14:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 14:08:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AEEEB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:08:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UDlbe89t-uBN for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.40.10.117] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8404A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:08:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:08:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44D06B87.22687.1E831B5F@heli.mikestammer.com> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:08:50 -0000 On 1 Aug 2006 at 17:23, Nikolas Britton wrote: > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > stupid problem with the cables. > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > shielded cables? > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > > I think Western Digital makes securelock cables that snap in place pretty well. might be worth a look. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:20:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A8716A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (phsmgmx4.partners.org [155.52.251.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF4743D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:20:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx4.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 31F2A188319; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx4.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8F18832F; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k72EM0nG069592; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:22:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:20:32 -0400 To: Jim Stapleton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:20:43 -0000 No, they were all normal (the latter two were 0, the first was about 110). FWIW, the query usually proceeds normally; it's only when it doesn't that things go bad. I'm wondering if this is a problem with threads -- I've been doing research, and a number of places say that there are threading issues on FreeBSD 5 with MySQL thread when using the standard threading library. I'm going to recompile MySQL with the linuxpthreads option, and see if that stops this... Thanks, Ricky On Aug 2, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: > I thought there were mysql forums, but I am not sure. > > In the queries I gave you, none of the results were too large I take > it (not above the low thousands)? > > -Jim Stapleton > > On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: >> Hi! All of these queries worked just fine, without causing any >> problems. >> >> As this is more of a mysql issue, do you have any suggestions where >> it would be best for me to query them? >> >> Thanks, >> Ricky >> >> On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote: >> >> > Not sure, seems more of a mysql question, but here's some guesses I >> > have for diagnostics. >> > >> > could you run these queries? >> > >> > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE status < 3 >> > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessiions WHERE sid = >> > "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" >> > SELECT COUNT(*) FROM FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = >> > s.uid WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND >> u.status < >> > 3 >> > >> > -Jim Stapleton >> > >> > >> > >> > On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: >> >> >> >> On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Richard Morse wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi! I recently updated MySQL to version 5.0.22 using the ports >> >> > system (portupgrade -r -R mysql-\*). Previous to this, MySQL >> was >> >> > behaving perfectly normally. Since the upgrade, I have found >> that >> >> > every so often -- sometimes two or three times a day, sometimes >> >> > every other day, but no more often than that -- one of the >> >> > databases MySQL is hosting starts misbehaving, MySQL starts >> >> > climbing in processor usage, and I have to restart MySQL to >> >> > recover. By "misbehaving", I mean that some subset of >> queries to >> >> > this database start not returning -- they take forever. By >> >> > climbing in processor usage, I mean that my load averages, which >> >> > normally sit around 0, start going up to 3, 5, even 7. >> >> > >> >> > - How can I determine what query it is that is causing this to >> >> > happen? I have turned on the log files by adding the following >> >> > line to /etc/rc.conf: >> >> >> >> Hi! Since this time, I have, I think, found what query is causing >> >> the problem: >> >> >> >> SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = >> s.uid >> >> WHERE s.sid = "d9fe25949f79f2c767a0d237b4fdf841" AND u.status < 3 >> >> LIMIT 0, 1 >> >> >> >> How can I determine _why_ this is causing MySQL to hang/enter some >> >> kind of infinite loop? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ricky >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:27:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9CF16A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: from elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com (elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.135.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A943643D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: from 86-124-116-144.iasi.cablelink.ro ([86.124.116.144]:59071 helo=[10.0.0.5]) by elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G8Hh7-0003L8-R1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:27:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: ovidiu ene Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:27 +0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elgreco.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - unixware.ro X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Broadcom BCM5780 NIC on fujitsu primergy 220 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:27:36 -0000 Hi, I've found this post: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg19247.html It seems that support for BCM5780 was added into bge driver, in CURRENT, so i've cvsuped, and tried, and still not working. Anybody have an ideea howto solve this problem? (I have a Fujitsu Primergy RX 220 server with 2xbcm5780 gigabyte nics) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 14:30:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70E116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C243D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1965539uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IkQavQtjTlq4BfegUyryV791wWD+X/jKRhm/LYJ9PFju1HUQ280ZZBsDI/xZ4LT2ETm4L9L0TEQCFTBxZ2BpmGGlFbLu82VTigScfWS8iz1pxWWUi0wLRY9P/ELiTy4TbHOA6C5r8dbPQR7XeE5Mj4iDDFAqNt8ZHmKe4DL25Tg= Received: by 10.67.29.12 with SMTP id g12mr1136343ugj; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.86.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20608020730p3a5c809cs828d72825d8487dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:30:37 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D06B87.22687.1E831B5F@heli.mikestammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44D06B87.22687.1E831B5F@heli.mikestammer.com> Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:30:39 -0000 I have SATA one cables/connectors, and they do come loose when fiddling in the case, but otherwise they are fine (when the case is closed and the machine is running. However, I do prefer the locking cables and jacks in SATA II. You might look at Newegg as your vendor, I believe I saw some there: http://www.newegg.com. Alternatively, I got some SATAII cables from, oddly enough, Microcenter, that were good priced and worked well. -Jim Stapleton On 8/2/06, Eric wrote: > On 1 Aug 2006 at 17:23, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > > stupid problem with the cables. > > > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > > shielded cables? > > > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > > > > > > I think Western Digital makes securelock cables that snap in place pretty well. might be worth > a look. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 15:23:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDE916A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from relay.aplus.net (relay.aplus.net [216.55.128.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998D043D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from [216.55.131.248] (helo=[192.168.191.103]) by relay.aplus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8IZO-000MPM-0c for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:23:38 -0700 Message-ID: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:23:24 -0700 From: Scott Oertel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: removing large files (lost+found) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:23:43 -0000 Yesterday after an fsck a file was placed in the lost+found folder which size was exactly the size of the drive (450gb). What is the safest way to remove this file? Thanks, Scott Oertel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 15:56:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9A216A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpout12-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout12-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [68.178.232.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5D1743D58 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 4955 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 15:56:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gem-wbe17.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.221) by smtpout12-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 15:56:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5607 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2006 15:56:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:56:33 -0700 From: Joshua Lewis To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20060802085632.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.6d8590511d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.4.11 X-Originating-IP: 65.193.202.231 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jerry McAllister , tech.junk@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:56:34 -0000 I am actually not looking for a Windows look alike. I am simply replacing my XP system with a BSD solution. I am looking for a fast easy to configure and fun WM. I am absolutely looking for something new to use. not Windows like. That is why I was looking at enlightenment and fluxbox. but there are just so many I was hoping to get ideas as to why one would choose one over the other. Other then personal preference. I have been using enlightenment for about a week and perhaps it is something I did but my resolution is stuck at 1600x1280 at 65Hz. My monitor keeps getting mad at me and telling me that is not the recommended solution. I have been trying to figure out how to change it and I have updated the xorg.conf as the handbook says but it still defaults. Unless anyone has an idea why I am going to switch to fluxbox and see how that feels. I did want to mention that I do agree with your point. I am looking for something new and I am looking to experiment with other ways of doing things. But at the same time I would like a little eye candy. After all with today's power full systems there is nothing wrong with waisting a few CPU cycles to make the experience a little more enjoyable. I will certainly give XFCE a try I have seen allot of recommendations for that as well. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. From: Andrew Gould Date: Tue, August 01, 2006 12:27 pm To: Jerry McAllister , tech.junk@verizon.net Cc: Joshua Lewis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org --- Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Joshua Lewis wrote: > > > > > > Would I be better off just going with Gnome > or KDE? I realize once I > > > start installing apps that I will probably > wind up installing > > > something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so > I am going to wind up > > > bloating my system any ways right? > > > > > > > Look at them both and make a choice if you like > either. > > I tried both in the past, but found they were not > for me for various > > reasons, so I went looking, also tried Xfce as > has been mentioned, but > > I decided I wanted to try something really > different from things that > > seemed Windows like. > > > > Tried WindowMaker and have been using it now for a > long time. Here is > > the url www.windowmaker.info if you are > interested. > > As you requested lean and fast, little slow > getting started, only > > because it is very different in the approach of > say Gnome, KDE, or Xfce, > > but once you get used to it, works great. I also > like dock apps, which > > you can get more info at http://dockapps.org/ > > Gee, I just use AfterStep. Of course, that isn't > really an MS-Win > environment replacement. It doesn't even attempt to > be. But then I > really do not want to have the look and feel of > MS-Win. I want something > more straight-forward and less icky. > > ////jerry > > > Good Luck, > > Sean This is a good point here. Whereas it's good to have something familiar for immediate productivity, it's also good to explore different options to experience benefits/drawbacks that you hadn't considered before. In *nix (includind BSD's and Linux), you're not limited to one window manager. You can install several and use whichever matches your mood at the time. I used to use KDE and Gnome simply because the menus contained so many applications that were new to me. Once I knew which applications I wanted to use, I switched to XFCE because it's faster. I still use XFCE for my office productivity; but I'm still experimenting with icewm and windowmaker on an older computer because they "feel" so much faster. Definitely choose a window manager that will give you a positive experience now; but take time to browse *nix's other offerings. If you don't try new things, how can you make an informed decision? Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:25:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C1B16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6E743D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:25:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k72GPOx2094024; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:25:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:25:24 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Scott Oertel Message-ID: <20060802162524.GB58585@dan.emsphone.com> References: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing large files (lost+found) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:25:25 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: > Yesterday after an fsck a file was placed in the lost+found folder which > size was exactly the size of the drive (450gb). What is the safest way > to remove this file? If its timestamp updates when you touch a file on the main filesystem, it's most likely a snapshot file, either leftover from a failed background fsck, or manually created by you with mksnap_ffs. You can just delete it. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:36:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1AD16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from relay.aplus.net (relay.aplus.net [216.55.128.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE11143D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:36:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from [216.55.131.248] (helo=[192.168.191.103]) by relay.aplus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8Ji6-0006SF-Jv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:36:42 -0700 Message-ID: <44D0D498.1030405@scottevil.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:36:40 -0700 From: Scott Oertel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> <20060802162524.GB58585@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802162524.GB58585@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: removing large files (lost+found) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:36:43 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: > >> Yesterday after an fsck a file was placed in the lost+found folder which >> size was exactly the size of the drive (450gb). What is the safest way >> to remove this file? >> > > If its timestamp updates when you touch a file on the main filesystem, > it's most likely a snapshot file, either leftover from a failed > background fsck, or manually created by you with mksnap_ffs. You can > just delete it. > > The time stamp doesn't update, it gives an error: touch: #00000005: Operation not permitted -Scott Oertel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:49:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B97316A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273FA43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95533D93720 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:49:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 8fCkBaHu+v20QP5fWUpGt6fVbqyw61g7JSpNBkU4gg0e 1154537362 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D6A79C6 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:49:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060802131420.79edspqrwgok4s8s@216.219.94.118> In-Reply-To: <20060802131420.79edspqrwgok4s8s@216.219.94.118> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021749.16149.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Telecom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:49:20 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 14:14, root@rithy4u.net wrote: > Dear All, > > Can we use FreeBSD in Telecom industry? If I want to build an Internet > Backbone which connect across country in asia. Is it suitable? How is > its stability of routing compare to Cisco? Internet backbone router don't run packets through conventional network stacks, they run the packets through asics or special network processors. FreeBSD could run on the control processor of such a router, but it would need a considerable amount of additional proprietory software and microcode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:51:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9795416A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC8B43D7F for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A12CD93764 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:51:01 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: aFBpbsaqkzWZh2IIPV0XMKN2/6RQPFB+nHFvKsLxX0tf 1154537460 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF9779CF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:50:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060802122218.70875.qmail@web27613.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608021434.56075.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> <20060802140016.GA4418@RawFedDogs.net> In-Reply-To: <20060802140016.GA4418@RawFedDogs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021750.55947.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:51:16 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 15:00, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 02:34:46PM +0100, RW wrote: > > $ grep pkgconfig /usr/ports/MOVED > > devel/pkgconfig|devel/pkg-config|2006-05-27|Renamed to use real vendor > > package name > > > > You can probably just pkg_delete pkgconfig, and fix-up the dependencies. > > Between the two you probably need to install the new version. > > Would: > > portupgrade -f -o pkgconfig pkg-config > > be the "correct" way to fix such a problem? probably, I don't use portupgrade much myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:52:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C8C16A4E2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster5.tls.net (ecluster5.tls.net [65.196.224.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D529243DBA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 95365 invoked by uid 89); 2 Aug 2006 16:56:56 -0000 Received: from 204-8-13-106.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@204.8.13.106) by auth-ecluster5.tls.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 16:56:56 -0000 Message-ID: <44D0D80A.2080703@pixelhammer.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:51:22 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:52:38 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 01), DAve said: >> We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've been >> watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. But >> looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of piperd. > > Piperd means the process is waiting on a read from a pipe. You can use > lsof to determine what process is at the other end of the pipe (run > lsof, find your process, find the PIPE fd, then find the other process > with the same 0xXXXXXXXX value). > Excellent, thank you. May I ask where you found that info. I looked but came up empty. I'd like to know the meanings of some other states not mentioned in the man pages. Such as nanslp, *GIANT, kqread, etc. Thanks, DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 16:57:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3864016A4E2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D558A43D6E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:57:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k72GvSYX067467; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:57:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:57:28 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Scott Oertel Message-ID: <20060802165728.GC58585@dan.emsphone.com> References: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> <20060802162524.GB58585@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0D498.1030405@scottevil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44D0D498.1030405@scottevil.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing large files (lost+found) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:57:29 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: > Dan Nelson wrote: > >In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: > >>Yesterday after an fsck a file was placed in the lost+found folder > >>which size was exactly the size of the drive (450gb). What is the > >>safest way to remove this file? > > > >If its timestamp updates when you touch a file on the main > >filesystem, it's most likely a snapshot file, either leftover from a > >failed background fsck, or manually created by you with mksnap_ffs. > >You can just delete it. > > The time stamp doesn't update, it gives an error: touch: #00000005: > Operation not permitted I mean touch some other file :) But I just remembered the correct way to determine if a file is a snapshot: "ls -lo". If the flags field contains the word "snapshot" for that file, it's a snapshot. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:01:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D196B16A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2237843D6D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:01:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so711786nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jm6/ZPGMAMXy/uR9Jveh7oqZt36YzMliU0mkRfuH5kp8Xt8cblhhHc+EjUbmRNXC5sQQ/ui5RjZ3M8qNw1ezkvYR9TdRh7N2rMnNGsiiKhgIT6gGDuApnTAL13drNhefsKBaTfzbJOI71oH/T4N82Wk/jptBsVL1XkV5zZUuJPs= Received: by 10.78.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr434280hud; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:01:18 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Joshua Lewis" In-Reply-To: <20060802085632.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.6d8590511d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060802085632.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.6d8590511d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Cc: Andrew Gould , tech.junk@verizon.net, Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:01:21 -0000 On 8/2/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > I am actually not looking for a Windows look alike. I am simply > replacing my XP system with a BSD solution. I am looking for a fast > easy to configure and fun WM. I am absolutely looking for something > new to use. not Windows like. That is why I was looking at > enlightenment and fluxbox. but there are just so many I was hoping to > get ideas as to why one would choose one over the other. Other then > personal preference. I have been using enlightenment for about a week > and perhaps it is something I did but my resolution is stuck at > 1600x1280 at 65Hz. My monitor keeps getting mad at me and telling me > that is not the recommended solution. I have been trying to figure out > how to change it and I have updated the xorg.conf as the handbook says > but it still defaults. Unless anyone has an idea why I am going to > switch to fluxbox and see how that feels. > > > > I did want to mention that I do agree with your point. I am looking > for something new and I am looking to experiment with other ways of > doing things. But at the same time I would like a little eye candy. > After all with today's power full systems there is nothing wrong with > waisting a few CPU cycles to make the experience a little more > enjoyable. > > > > I will certainly give XFCE a try I have seen allot of recommendations > for that as well. > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look sorta like this, yours should have more Display SubSections in it: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:05:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6031516A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from relay.aplus.net (relay.aplus.net [216.55.128.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA0443D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:05:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from [216.55.131.248] (helo=[192.168.191.103]) by relay.aplus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8K9h-0009aw-HB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: <44D0DB47.5040301@scottevil.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:05:11 -0700 From: Scott Oertel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D0C36C.2050902@scottevil.com> <20060802162524.GB58585@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0D498.1030405@scottevil.com> <20060802165728.GC58585@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802165728.GC58585@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: removing large files (lost+found) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:05:14 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: > >> Dan Nelson wrote: >> >>> In the last episode (Aug 02), Scott Oertel said: >>> >>>> Yesterday after an fsck a file was placed in the lost+found folder >>>> which size was exactly the size of the drive (450gb). What is the >>>> safest way to remove this file? >>>> >>> If its timestamp updates when you touch a file on the main >>> filesystem, it's most likely a snapshot file, either leftover from a >>> failed background fsck, or manually created by you with mksnap_ffs. >>> You can just delete it. >>> >> The time stamp doesn't update, it gives an error: touch: #00000005: >> Operation not permitted >> > > I mean touch some other file :) > > But I just remembered the correct way to determine if a file is a > snapshot: "ls -lo". If the flags field contains the word "snapshot" > for that file, it's a snapshot. > > Good call, yeah.. it is a snap shot file, I suppose I'll try and remove it, hopefully removing a 450GB file doesn't lock up the system.. # ls -lo -r-------- 1 root operator snapshot 482801995408 Jul 31 05:52 #00000005 Thanks, Scott Oertel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:05:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C15116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81243D64 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:05:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k72H5hlF081566; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:05:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:05:43 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: DAve Message-ID: <20060802170543.GD58585@dan.emsphone.com> References: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0D80A.2080703@pixelhammer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44D0D80A.2080703@pixelhammer.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:05:45 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 02), DAve said: > Dan Nelson wrote: > >In the last episode (Aug 01), DAve said: > >>We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've > >>been watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. > >>But looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of > >>piperd. > > > >Piperd means the process is waiting on a read from a pipe. You can > >use lsof to determine what process is at the other end of the pipe > >(run lsof, find your process, find the PIPE fd, then find the other > >process with the same 0xXXXXXXXX value). > > Excellent, thank you. May I ask where you found that info. I looked > but came up empty. I'd like to know the meanings of some other states > not mentioned in the man pages. Such as nanslp, *GIANT, kqread, etc. The only place wait states are documented is the source, basically. There are many hundreds of them. States with an asterisk are mutexes To find the code related to piperd: find /usr/src/sys -name "*.c" | xargs grep -n piperd -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:12:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7217F16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58543D6E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:12:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 27so1714221hub for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:12:15 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=mP6r8FD+2mD45yxCBU3RzsCEz+lk5Wr7aukkLXcLApDc6LXZseSpboArtcyPR9m0BkUzxQtZRAqrbotjMkDu9mCYn66Z3pK4fXgFlXI7qbjCW4zi3SAoS/DjFyMz+Woh/P7zi1EQ7xXWIaJNE7a/1J9EBRcEJMWpWwPZ6nTv0rM= Received: by 10.49.43.11 with SMTP id v11mr2509391nfj; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id x1sm138786nfb.2006.08.02.09.46.24; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:46:08 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060802155810.c38cfaef.dick@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060802155810.c38cfaef.dick@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3416821.qypprUGsLV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608021946.17944.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Subject: Re: options VESA SC_PIXEL_MODE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:12:23 -0000 --nextPart3416821.qypprUGsLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:58, dick hoogendijk wrote: > I followed some advice on how to get higher resolutions on the console > for my 1280x1024 LCD monitor. > > I recompiled the kernel with > options VESA > options SC_PIXEL_MODE > > After a vidcontrol MODE_282 I get a 1280x1024 console. > Nice, but the characters are just "fat" compared to the chars I get in > Xorg running the same resolution setting (those terminal chars are very > sharp). > > Furthermore it "feels" as though the screen has become a little slower > then without vesa and sc_pixel_mode (in the console). Can this be? Or > is this just my imagination. > > The console resolution has to be delt with because the default font is > really HUGE ;-) > > Question: is VESA the way to go or is it better to leave this out of > the kernel and do just something with the buildin "-f" (font) in > vidcontrol. I have font8x8/8x14/8x16 in my /etc/rc.conf > > Your comments and advise please. Maybe other mode from "vidcontrol -i mode" will be suitable for You. =2D-=20 Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- --nextPart3416821.qypprUGsLV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0NbZhLjVFCVp0wsRAqdhAJ4lEl8nc9wgHaK/DpSg3ex4GuokGgCfeVJa 0WVSO0WV32z0ywGY2cbDZh4= =Jnwe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3416821.qypprUGsLV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:21:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF36016A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C9F43D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:21:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72HKvXL061666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:20:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=neutral X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k72HKvXL061666 Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k72HKvv3061665; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:20:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:20:57 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Joshua Lewis Message-ID: <20060802172057.GA61135@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Joshua Lewis , Andrew Gould , Jerry McAllister , tech.junk@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802085632.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.6d8590511d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060802085632.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.6d8590511d.wbe@email.secureserver.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:21:12 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1632/Wed Aug 2 15:46:05 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Andrew Gould , tech.junk@verizon.net, Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:21:30 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 08:56:33AM -0700, Joshua Lewis wrote: > Other then > personal preference. I have been using enlightenment for about a week > and perhaps it is something I did but my resolution is stuck at > 1600x1280 at 65Hz. My monitor keeps getting mad at me and telling me > that is not the recommended solution. I have been trying to figure out > how to change it and I have updated the xorg.conf as the handbook says > but it still defaults. Unless anyone has an idea why I am going to > switch to fluxbox and see how that feels. Display resolution is independant of the window manager you choose. As you say, you've looked at xorg.conf, and that's the right place to go to fix this problem. The automatic X -config stuff tends to get you the largest screen real-estate that X thinks your graphics card and monitor are capable of supporting. In the past that often meant running at a lower colour depth (which tends not to be a problem nowadays when 64MB is considered a small quantity of graphics memory) or running at a lower refresh rate (much more likely to be a problem). In order to override the resolution presented to you, you can edit the last section in xorg.conf, the "Screen" section. There's two things you can add to this section that help. First you can force the colour depth of the monitor to 24bits. Your graphics card might support 32bits, but that isn't actually any higher colour resolution than 24bits -- the extra 8bits is used for fancy stuff like z-buffering or alpha (transparency). Secondly, you can tell X what your preferred screen resolution is. On my system, I like to run at 1600x1200. The monitor will do 1920x1440 but it's not really a supported resolution according to the manufacturers and the low refresh rate is annoying. So I have the following in my xorg.conf: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1920x1440" "1280x1024" "1152x864" EndSubSection EndSection =20 ie. add the 'DefaultDepth 24' and 'Modes ...' lines. The modes lines give alternate resolutions that you can cycle through using Ctrl-Alt-KP_Plus or Ctrl-Alt-KP_Minus (ie + or - from the numeric keypad, not the ones on the top row of the main set of keys). Also, look at /var/log/Xorg.N.log which will tell you what modes your system thinks are workable, even if you put something a little too ambitious in the config file. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0N758Mjk52CukIwRApgoAJ9uXjmFGeva0n+NL+lkQt9ncY40fwCfRG1y xKO+xTAKEPfSPXs5cNccZZw= =nkdp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:23:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411B316A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC743D76 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8KRX-0002f0-U6; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:23:39 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8KRV-0000E7-Uk; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:23:37 +0100 Message-ID: <44D0DF98.6080103@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:23:36 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0D80A.2080703@pixelhammer.com> <20060802170543.GD58585@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802170543.GD58585@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:23:46 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: >In the last episode (Aug 02), DAve said: > > >>Dan Nelson wrote: >> >> >>>In the last episode (Aug 01), DAve said: >>> >>> >>>>We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've >>>>been watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. >>>>But looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of >>>>piperd. >>>> >>>> >>>Piperd means the process is waiting on a read from a pipe. You can >>>use lsof to determine what process is at the other end of the pipe >>>(run lsof, find your process, find the PIPE fd, then find the other >>>process with the same 0xXXXXXXXX value). >>> >>> >>Excellent, thank you. May I ask where you found that info. I looked >>but came up empty. I'd like to know the meanings of some other states >>not mentioned in the man pages. Such as nanslp, *GIANT, kqread, etc. >> >> > >The only place wait states are documented is the source, basically. >There are many hundreds of them. States with an asterisk are mutexes >To find the code related to piperd: > >find /usr/src/sys -name "*.c" | xargs grep -n piperd > > > Or you could search the archive of questions@ where many of the more common states where elucidated just a couple months ago and Giorgos provided a good description of the UPPER CASE states. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:31:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF22D16A4E8 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from smtp2.delfi.lv (smtp2.delfi.lv [195.2.96.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F86143D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:31:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: from [192.168.15.108] ([62.85.46.110]) by smtp2.delfi.lv (8.13.6/8.13.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id k72HVWb7042968 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:31:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:31:31 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 195.2.96.244 Subject: Systrace port status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:31:40 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know the status of the port of systrace to FreeBSD? The project page does not appear to be updated and the author has not replied to my e-mail. Thanks, Michael. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:47:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C29816A4E5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F8F43D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:47:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so45375wra for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:47:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JlwCAHYsxQGHnaazHsdlFSfTD+6oQqP8qyvvbmKwdCQNlJEXRc5kkblqidebMWT6YK1CThwY4m6cLZJxU+FBzM2cFkYxVdPvmBVayvQW1mlgzTnK31/VRRiSkDuSG/OIFdCEZgCBCP4kATplcyrIoDmviumDII7JbyNxjr1KxYw= Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr454606huc; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:47:37 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" In-Reply-To: <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:47:39 -0000 On 8/2/06, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Atom Powers wrote: > > > > > It's still going to take you at least a release to get it into the > > base install. But if you can find a way to use the portsnap data and > > get useful information out of the cvsup data you can probably get > > numbers now with an error margin as low as 8% to 15%. > > Hey, I said that a week ago! Guess I agree with you :-) > > Not quite convinced by the error margin, but as long as you count too > low then I see no problem. If, as Nikolas pointed out, a URL-based > reporting scheme can be bombarded with fakes, as a vendor I would not > want to listen to any numbers it produced. > > But the question then goes back to: can you make any kind of count out > of cvsup servers? Someone already said they thought you couldn't. > > At the end of the day, I think that unique IP address is as close as > it's possible to get to host count. It will undercount NATed hosts and > networks with single cvsup/portsnap distribution points, and will > overcount variable IP addresses. The latter, I think matters the least > as long as you do your stats over a short enough period (e.g. 1 month). > That wouldn't overcount much and deliberate faking would be hard and > limited (how many IP addresses can one faker get access to?). > > Then, as long as the methodology is clearly explained along with any > stats, you'd have the ammunition to persuade vendors (we hope). > > --Alex > The problem with cvsup (I use cvsup.) is the error margin. The closer we get to release dates the more I use cvsup, It's a side effect of running -STABLE. anyways... back to the fakers... Lets think about the usage patterns of a "typical" faker vs NAT: Faker: * All from one IP address. * Sequential requests. * Scripted, so each request should be timed perfectly with the one before and the one after it. * Thousands of requests. NATed Boxes: * All from one IP address. * Parallel requests. * Not scripted, requests should be more random. * Hundreds of requests? Also I seem to remember a way to detect NATed boxes: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=detecting+NAT&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 17:53:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6314F16A4E5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 079A743D78 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:53:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 703 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 17:53:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vBO0hrj4JS6LtfuDbnwJ/yPL6BqeoGhCCubpeGLvr3XGadFXrVRqBHAR5hly1wrYannoyHW68S+xIQ7Y5Js63bPHpQb+QMZzfPrLX1JWw5vp+OC8Bk/tj1fEEoIPgxpL9NRXBrzIdXz4HYrBHCJJvn/LTQDQE7KSUYMAT9KO1CM= ; Message-ID: <20060802175332.701.qmail@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:53:32 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: Freminlins In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:53:37 -0000 --- Freminlins wrote: > Nicole, > > On 02/08/06, N. Harrington > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I have several web servers that are attached to a > > Netapp (network appliance) unit via NFS-3. A few > > servers are 5.5 and a few are 6.1 for comparison > > testing. All seem to have lousy performance. > > > We have a similar setup and it runs smoothly. Cool! Can you share with me what sort of settings you use on your boxes? sysctl/kerneltunes/mount options? It has taken me a over a month to even get to speak to someone high enough up he food chain at Netapp to not say "FreeBSD - that's a version of Linux right?" > Can you define "lousy performance" ? The web server replies (using either Apache and Lighthttpd) seem to max out at about 17mb/s. Response time for the web server will rise gradually, then suddenly become 10-20seconds for a reply. Much like a backup on a highway. They claim that the netapp unit is spending too much time dealing with file information IOPS than actual transfer of files. However even on a non in-use server, if I make a request for a file, that "heavy file access" seems normal. IE: GtAttr Lookup Rdlink Read Write Rename Access Rddir 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 248 160 0 4 0 0 236 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > Can you give more details on your network? Are you > using Gig ethernet? And > over what medium? Yes, 4X GigE from the filer via a Vif and trunking on the switch. A nice 10Gb ready HP unit. I have asked if using the Vif and trunking could have any effects but been assured it should not. It does mean I cannot use jumbo frames. But since web pages and images are small, I don't think there would be any benefit. > Can you also try just copying a 100MB file from the > filer to one of the web > servers and record the time? 9907187 bytes/sec for a 16M file. It will transfer in nanotime. So, I believe that eliminates network performance as an issue. > Are you running nfsiod? Yes, I show 4 instances running. > When > > going through the issues with Netapp, the reasons > > given were that we have too many GettAdr/Lookup > > requests compared to actual reads. So all the NFS > IOPS > > are being used up by these requests. As soon as > the > > webservers get busy, requests pile up. > > > > I have tried everything I can think of. The web > > servers are even mounted read only with no help. > > > > My current mount options are: > > filer:/vol/fvol31 /home/13/13 nfs > > ro,noatime,-r=32768,-T,-b,-R0,-i,-D2,-L 0 0 > > > Mounting noatime for web servers is a good idea > but... your "noatime" option > has no effect on NFS mounts (check out the mount man > page). You need "vol > options no_atime_update" on the NetApp. Hmm. Drat. We have some web servers that do nothing but send out data, but some that are used for uploading and file manipulation. I will have to make sure that global of an option will not effect what they do. > Any advice for sysctl tunes or anything else would > be > > much appreciatted! > > > > Thanks > > > > Nicole > > > > One last thing - are you female?! In a UNIX > newsgroup?! Yup :) Oh, and yes, I do play the drums :) > Frem. > Thanks for your assistance!! Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 18:05:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E977916A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B99143D49 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:05:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so730365nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:05:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f4ozoE/KlssE4gtMP6BHtFkpoWZ2wFunORLRzTo3EmlaNtReLjWwqD1dcgEUGpBz/k23U2OZcVJ4KAy16+KyFgYQuTZ9KgeaRYrKGtbS4Ta9PCE3wbUoxN34DOffB3D0SD0zm9ngxRmMCTz6IBICwRX4iVPxh4aYgt8cPE+N5CQ= Received: by 10.78.185.16 with SMTP id i16mr457091huf; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:05:37 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "dick hoogendijk" In-Reply-To: <20060802155810.c38cfaef.dick@nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060802155810.c38cfaef.dick@nagual.nl> Cc: fbsdq Subject: Re: options VESA SC_PIXEL_MODE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:05:40 -0000 On 8/2/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: > I followed some advice on how to get higher resolutions on the console > for my 1280x1024 LCD monitor. > > I recompiled the kernel with > options VESA > options SC_PIXEL_MODE > > After a vidcontrol MODE_282 I get a 1280x1024 console. > Nice, but the characters are just "fat" compared to the chars I get in > Xorg running the same resolution setting (those terminal chars are very > sharp). > This is typical of LCD and notebook screens in any OS. It a limitation of the display technology. Try another mode "vidcontrol -i mode" that has a smaller fonts. You could try forcing the font size smaller but I don't know how to do that. What about MODE_279? > Furthermore it "feels" as though the screen has become a little slower > then without vesa and sc_pixel_mode (in the console). Can this be? Or > is this just my imagination. > It's not your imagination. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 18:19:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D0716A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC41143D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:19:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1G8LJ9-00047L-1p for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:19:03 +0100 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with SMTP id k72IJ2NR010313 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:19:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 22870 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Aug 2006 18:18:57 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:18:57 +0100 To: David Banning Message-ID: <20060802181857.GA22844@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060801175209.GA24100@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to copy from one fbsd box to another X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:19:05 -0000 On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:52:09PM -0400, David Banning wrote: > > I am installing a new server and have to copy many files from old server > to new. I have connected a windows box to each via samba, and am dragging > from one to the other via the windows box. > > This might seem like a silly question, but what is the way to copy > -directly- from one fbsd box to another? I use a combination of scp and rsync. scp for odd files and rsync for directories. -- Frank echo "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 18:46:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B1416A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B76343D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8Ljb-0002zr-Et; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:46:23 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8Lja-0006me-L2; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:46:22 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:46:26 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/2/06, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >> >> But the question then goes back to: can you make any kind of count out >> of cvsup servers? Someone already said they thought you couldn't. >> >> At the end of the day, I think that unique IP address is as close as >> it's possible to get to host count. It will undercount NATed hosts and >> networks with single cvsup/portsnap distribution points, and will >> overcount variable IP addresses. The latter, I think matters the least >> as long as you do your stats over a short enough period (e.g. 1 month). >> That wouldn't overcount much and deliberate faking would be hard and >> limited (how many IP addresses can one faker get access to?). > > > The problem with cvsup (I use cvsup.) is the error margin. The closer > we get to release dates the more I use cvsup, It's a side effect of > running -STABLE. anyways... back to the fakers... > > Lets think about the usage patterns of a "typical" faker vs NAT: > > Faker: > * All from one IP address. > * Sequential requests. > * Scripted, so each request should be timed perfectly with the one > before and the one after it. > * Thousands of requests. > > NATed Boxes: > * All from one IP address. > * Parallel requests. > * Not scripted, requests should be more random. > * Hundreds of requests? But if what you are counting is IP addresses then you faker has achieved nothing. You're not counting connections, but IP addresses. Yes, you undercount NATed and yes you undercount when distribution points are used, but I don't see any easy way to fake, at least not on the scale of a URL. Yes, if you happen to have 200 IP addresses, you could probably assign each in turn to your BSD box and cvsup, but this seems less likely to me, and is inherently limited. Sometimes I cvsup three times a day - in which case all are likely to come from same IP. Sometimes I cvsup once a month or less, in which case looking at statistics only over the last month will tend to flatten any effect from variable IPs. It's far from perfect, but unless you want each installation to have its own license number and a "GenuineFreeBSD" program which enforces unique license numbers somehow, I don't think there is a perfect answer. I'm guessing no-one in their right might does want this kind of enforcement ;-) --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 18:58:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414616A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EF043D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:58:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2095592uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.185.3 with SMTP id m3mr1984622qbp; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15sm1916791qba.2006.08.02.11.58.25; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0865DC242 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:58:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Seibert X-X-Sender: ges@seibercom.net To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20060802145104.K5915@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Unable to print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gerard Seibert List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:58:55 -0000 I know I posted earlier about this; however, since then I have gathered more information. First, I installed LPRng and had it replace the base system. I rebooted the system and it started up fine. However, I still cannot print. I can print from within 'apsfilter' but that is it. The printer is attached to a WinXP machine. I did have printing working until I updated to version 6.1. After that, it broke. Output of Apsfilter program: Your choice: ** creating printcap entry for printer aps1... creating spooldir ... creating samba config file ... read protect password information... remember SETUP settings in printers apsfilterrc file... Aug 2 14:15:53 seibercom checkpc[89703]: lp: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/dev /null' failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device Aug 2 14:15:53 seibercom checkpc[89703]: aps1: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/d ev/null' failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device ** done. ===== Output of checkpc -fV LPRng-3.8.28, Copyright 1988-2003 Patrick Powell, Checking for configuration files '/etc/lpd.conf' found '/etc/lpd.conf', mod 0100444 Checking for printcap files '/etc/printcap' Checking for lpd only printcap files '/etc/lpd/lpd_printcap' DaemonUID 1, DaemonGID 1 Using Config file '/etc/lpd.conf' LPD lockfile '/var/run/lpd.515' .names :lp=lp .all :lp #Printcap Information lp|bj8pa06n.upp;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log :lp=/dev/null :mx#0 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp :sh Checking printcap info Checking printer 'lp' Checking directory: '/var/spool/lpd/lp' directory '/' directory '//var' directory '//var/spool' directory '//var/spool/lpd' directory '//var/spool/lpd/lp' checking 'control.pr' file checking 'status.pr' file checking 'status' file checking '/var/spool/lpd/lp/log' file checking '/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct' file 2006-08-02-14:22:11.152 seibercom lp: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/dev/null' failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device Warning - lp: cannot open lp device '/dev/null' - Inappropriate ioctl for device 'if' filter '/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter' executable '/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter' ===== lpc status lp Printer Printing Spooling Jobs Server Subserver Redirect Status/(Debug) lp@seibercom enabled enabled 0 none none ===== Output: lpr -P lp /etc/printcap lpr: Connection refused ===== Output: lpr /etc/print lpr: Error - scheduler not responding! The first entry above: Aug 2 14:15:53 seibercom checkpc[89703]: lp: Checkwrite: fcntl F_SETFL of '/dev/null' failed - Inappropriate ioctl for device is probably where the problem is. However, I am not sure what I am suppose to do to correct it. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net Words can never express what words can never express. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 19:12:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FEC16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D38643D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18392 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 19:12:13 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2006 19:12:13 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7540228449; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:12:12 -0400 (EDT) To: joe mcguckin References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:12:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (joe mcguckin's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:34:26 -0700") Message-ID: <44r6zz54vn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will 'top' display cpu stats per cpu on SMP systems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:12:14 -0000 joe mcguckin writes: > Similar to top on Linux ? The layout is somewhat different, but yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 19:14:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5DC16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0018F43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 4155 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 19:14:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2006 19:14:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8D7D328449; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:14:36 -0400 (EDT) To: beno References: <44CFEF50.2090403@2012.vi> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:14:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44CFEF50.2090403@2012.vi> (beno's message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:18:24 -0400") Message-ID: <44mzan54rn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding To Path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:14:39 -0000 beno writes: > Hi; > I went to set env of my path to add another folder. Everything > *seemed* to work fine (it added, I checked) until I shelled out and > back in. Then it was gone! Here's what I tried: > > FreeBSD 5.3 September 1, 1999 > FreeBSD 5.3 > server167# echo $shell > /bin/csh > server167# echo $path > /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin > server167# > server167# setenv PATH > /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin/ezmlm > server167# echo $path > /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin /usr/local/bin/ezmlm > server167# exit > $ su > Password: > server167# echo $path > /sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin > /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin /root/bin > > So, what happened to my ezmlm dir? Please help. Did you mean to use the "-m" option? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 19:16:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6743C16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E26543D6D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so751447nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fium0x+Cna85rUK+EPbTNhDJ/ZLQwHoJtiIYoVEQu43DvSP4sklBg5GaBUt9qAmO94j4f9B7svk0C2b6Zvh1gBfSQoPwmCEoYNpDRzh2AFy0FUgt10NfSOuzdZ+353uW8B6WiE+KPfujZkpZ16qV4WMPbXu30ywd6nDiMDEkrMg= Received: by 10.78.127.6 with SMTP id z6mr485450huc; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:16:02 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Alex Zbyslaw" In-Reply-To: <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:16:11 -0000 On 8/2/06, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > On 8/2/06, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > > > >> > >> But the question then goes back to: can you make any kind of count out > >> of cvsup servers? Someone already said they thought you couldn't. > >> > >> At the end of the day, I think that unique IP address is as close as > >> it's possible to get to host count. It will undercount NATed hosts and > >> networks with single cvsup/portsnap distribution points, and will > >> overcount variable IP addresses. The latter, I think matters the least > >> as long as you do your stats over a short enough period (e.g. 1 month). > >> That wouldn't overcount much and deliberate faking would be hard and > >> limited (how many IP addresses can one faker get access to?). > > > > > > The problem with cvsup (I use cvsup.) is the error margin. The closer > > we get to release dates the more I use cvsup, It's a side effect of > > running -STABLE. anyways... back to the fakers... > > > > Lets think about the usage patterns of a "typical" faker vs NAT: > > > > Faker: > > * All from one IP address. > > * Sequential requests. > > * Scripted, so each request should be timed perfectly with the one > > before and the one after it. > > * Thousands of requests. > > > > NATed Boxes: > > * All from one IP address. > > * Parallel requests. > > * Not scripted, requests should be more random. > > * Hundreds of requests? > > But if what you are counting is IP addresses then you faker has achieved > nothing. You're not counting connections, but IP addresses. Yes, you > undercount NATed and yes you undercount when distribution points are > used, but I don't see any easy way to fake, at least not on the scale of > a URL. Yes, if you happen to have 200 IP addresses, you could probably > assign each in turn to your BSD box and cvsup, but this seems less > likely to me, and is inherently limited. > > Sometimes I cvsup three times a day - in which case all are likely to > come from same IP. Sometimes I cvsup once a month or less, in which > case looking at statistics only over the last month will tend to flatten > any effect from variable IPs. > > It's far from perfect, but unless you want each installation to have its > own license number and a "GenuineFreeBSD" program which enforces unique > license numbers somehow, I don't think there is a perfect answer. I'm > guessing no-one in their right might does want this kind of enforcement ;-) > This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this how everyone else handles the problem? -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 19:57:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F1816A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beno0028@umn.edu) Received: from mtaout-a.tc.umn.edu (mtaout-a.tc.umn.edu [134.84.119.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204EB43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 19:57:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beno0028@umn.edu) Received: from ukato.freeshell.org (ukato.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.7]) by mtaout-a.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:56:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Umn-Remote-Mta: [N] ukato.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.7] #+TS+AU Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:56:50 -0500 (CDT) From: beno0028@umn.edu Sender: skb@ukato.freeshell.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: no stable zsh available in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:57:00 -0000 On 29 August 2005 the port shells/zsh-devel was removed (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1078555+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/cvs-all/20050904.cvs-all). Perhaps as a consequence, on 30 April 2006 the port shells/zsh was changed from version 4.2.6 of the stable branch to version 4.3.2 of the zsh development branch (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=551139+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2006/cvs-all/20060507.cvs-all). After 3 months of struggling to use this new, relatively buggy version, I finally have time to address what I see as a problem. The solution, in my opinion, is to reinstate the shells/zsh-devel port for the development branch and have the stable branch, appropriate for unambitious end-users like me, on shells/zsh. Before bringing this up in my first-ever problem report, I wanted to do as the article "Writing FreeBSD Problem Reports" recommends: "If your problem has not been discussed on the lists, you might try posting a message about it and waiting a few days to see if someone can spot something you have overlooked." With thanks, Scott Benolkin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 15:30:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4174D43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:30:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 37253 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 15:30:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=O/iIHMb53D52GridzTKeh9vR51JzooxJ/YSjwVm0blOA4Ahhr8InMNRy0yzOHkJPH+FKX35KA752uzr/sUMsjf+Q862xpFliSzdt1Pxj6jmMElO9WvfeOVEvD0fKINLnjtoJ2fNlzCzbcfn2peBiGwlzcHz5MDvWWN8ebr4CFkA= ; Message-ID: <20060802153049.37251.qmail@web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.171.187.21] by web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:30:49 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:30:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Busby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:15:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Office msg system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:30:50 -0000 Looking for suggestions on a web based msg system for an office. People are in and out quite a bit, they need to be able to log in from the road. Prefer email, notes, and maybe bulletin board to notify just a group or everyone in case of a disaster. Ability to link into cell phone text msg system would be nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 20:23:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A1516A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from mxo3.broadbandsupport.net (mxo3.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B711E43D83 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from atmail2.ibbsonline.com (atmail2.ibbsonline.com [209.55.3.51]) by mxo3.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2EB758FD; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=atmail2.ibbsonline.com) by atmail2.ibbsonline.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8NEv-0005L7-2U; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:22:49 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Clark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:22:48 -0400 X-Uidl: 11545501685839197 X-Mailer: AtMail 4.11 Message-Id: <20060802202249.4E2EB758FD@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net> X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-From: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net X-Spam-Status: No MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ron.Clark@eaglegl.com Subject: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:23:14 -0000 Good day all, I am building a new server and need Mys= ql. I have tried to install 4.1 server and 5.0 server. Both error out durin= g the build. I try to restart the install and it installs, but then will no= t start because /var/log/mysql directory does not exist. I create the direc= tory and try to restart, to no avail. Is there a version of My= sql that can be installed with out errors? Are there steps that am mi= ssing to make this run? I have installed Mysql from ports before with no er= rors, so this is new. Thanks in advance, Ron C Fr= eeBSD 5.5-STABLE #0: Tue Aug 1 17:59:18 CDT 2006 [DEL: :DEL] = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 20:24:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A7A16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C80B443D78 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:24:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 2028 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 20:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 20:24:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEA1E4 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:24:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GFtSKQnXetJK for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5366B55 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44D109F2.3090609@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:24:18 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802153049.37251.qmail@web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802153049.37251.qmail@web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Office msg system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:24:36 -0000 Mark Busby wrote: > Looking for suggestions on a web based msg system for an office. People are in and out quite a bit, they need to be able to log in from the road. Prefer email, notes, and maybe bulletin board to notify just a group or everyone in case of a disaster. > Ability to link into cell phone text msg system would be nice. check out horde + imp + nag, etc. it should do most of what you want and i think they have a mobile version of imp as well, tho i do not use it http://www.horde.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 20:24:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA3616A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E938543D5C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so771386nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=svam9lAcZdrpZcHOWo1K3xfUtCTlzYifx7Yrh7/ZRFlqXnC7IWyz4vFSJxADpPk0CzW8zcqINA9D1BXNRv4WAohIblFJrFB9Gjp7Kz4WO7/q9O5pVa7kXtNgCqgX+5C3X3Y9U43hroXm7ioZYckHgLe1vrsj6dR8dpXcYAp0PYo= Received: by 10.49.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr2839909nfi; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:42 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "N. Harrington" In-Reply-To: <20060802175332.701.qmail@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060802175332.701.qmail@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need Advice for Tuning NFS to place nice with a Netapp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:24:54 -0000 On 02/08/06, N. Harrington wrote: Cool! Can you share with me what sort of settings you > use on your boxes? sysctl/kerneltunes/mount options? This may be a disappointment to you but... I didn't have to do anything :-( All I have is rw on the client. It has taken me a over a month to even get to speak > to someone high enough up he food chain at Netapp to > not say "FreeBSD - that's a version of Linux right?" It depends who you speak to. There are people at NetApp who know about FreeBSD. The web server replies (using either Apache and > Lighthttpd) seem to max out at about 17mb/s. Response > time for the web server will rise gradually, then > suddenly become 10-20seconds for a reply. Much like a > backup on a highway. They claim that the netapp unit > is spending too much time dealing with file > information IOPS than actual transfer of files. > However even on a non in-use server, if I make a > request for a file, that "heavy file access" seems > normal. > IE: > GtAttr Lookup Rdlink Read Write Rename Access > Rddir > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > 248 160 0 4 0 0 236 0 > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 I would dispute NetApp's claim. NetApp filers are very capable at doing NFS operations. Static files tend to sit usefully in the buffer cache on web servers. So unless you are doing something really odd with your web servers I would tend to disagree with NetApp. I've just looked on one of our POP3 servers (mounting NetApps). POP3 causes far more random access than our web servers. As such it doesn't sit in the buffer cache very long. We have much higher figures than yours and absolutely no performance problems. Yes, 4X GigE from the filer via a Vif and trunking on > the switch. A nice 10Gb ready HP unit. I have asked if > using the Vif and trunking could have any effects but > been assured it should not. It does mean I cannot use > jumbo frames. But since web pages and images are > small, I don't think there would be any benefit. There is nothing wrong in theory with that setup. But is may not be what you want. Try it with just one GigE interface. You're right - you probably don't need jumbo frames. Which interface does the HP unit have? Also, have a look at netstat -in. Are there any IErrs or OErrs or Coll? Paste the results here! 9907187 bytes/sec for a 16M file. > It will transfer in nanotime. So, I believe that > eliminates network performance as an issue. Well, not really. The figure above is showing < 10MB a second. That's not quite Fast Ethernet speed. If you are pushing 17mb (I guess that's megabits) that's not really a problem though. I've just tested this on the same POP3 server above, using dd to write a file onto a NetApp and I get 10889359 a second. And this machine is busy. Also, it is mounting the NetApp over Fast Ethernet. Hmm. Drat. We have some web servers that do nothing > but send out data, but some that are used for > uploading and file manipulation. I will have to make > sure that global of an option will not effect what > they do. It is a per volume option. And frankly I've never seen much use for atime. It's useful sometimes, but not a lot. Can you also put in the output of nfsstat -W -c 2. Maybe it's best to put this up on the web somewhere as it's wide, and it's not easy to read in email. Let it run for a minute or so, and if possible do two runs. One during the OK time, the other during the problem time. I would go back to basics. One GigE interface. Just rw mount options, and start testing. By testing I mean measuring. NFS tuning is fiddly. I've been using NetApps with FreeBSD for 5 years. It is a good combination. Can you also post the output of sysctl -a|grep nfs. But don't start fiddling with them yet! > One last thing - are you female?! In a UNIX > > newsgroup?! > > Yup :) > Oh, and yes, I do play the drums :) Oh gawd. Whatever next? :-) Thanks for your assistance!! > > Nicole Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 20:25:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7C16A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5743D5E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:25:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8NHJ-0000ze-RY; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:25:17 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8NHJ-0005iP-9s; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <44D10A2C.4080008@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:25:16 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:25:26 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on > the FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this > how everyone else handles the problem? > Not on the home page, I would suggest, because a) opt-in registrations have really low take-up and b) you want to count systems, not users. Who would register once per machine they run? How could you tell if they were lying? I imagine I could *easily* rustle up a dozen or more email addresses and then claim, say 20? 100? hosts per address. Sysinstall is an option, but then you only get to count from the point where you get your change into a new release, and only count from that release forward. Every host running any older version is guaranteed to be missed. Eventually, you will start to get some kind of count, but again you will suffer from people who hate registering. Whether that will outnumber hosts lost to other counting methods, I could only guess. And anything upgraded using cvsup would be missed too. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 20:25:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CF016A4EB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40A0843D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:25:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 86698 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2006 20:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 20:25:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB8BE4 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:25:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zjd5Tp8KXGbB for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231255 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44D10A4A.90200@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:25:46 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802202249.4E2EB758FD@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net> In-Reply-To: <20060802202249.4E2EB758FD@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:25:52 -0000 Ron Clark wrote: > Good day all, > > I am building a new server and need Mys=l. I have tried to install > 4.1 server and 5.0 server. Both error out durin= the build. I try to > restart the install and it installs, but then will no= start because > /var/log/mysql directory does not exist. I create the direc=ory and > try to restart, to no avail. > > Is there a version of My=ql that can be installed with out errors? > Are there steps that am mi=sing to make this run? I have installed > Mysql from ports before with no er=ors, so this is new. > > Thanks in advance, > > Ron C > is your ports tree current? 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Processed in 2.074825 secs Process 8942) Received: from localhost (HELO 192.168.0.50) (bsd@bathnetworks.com@127.0.0.1) by lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 2006 22:10:58 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.107 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bsd@bathnetworks.com) by 192.168.0.50 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:10:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <1823.192.168.0.107.1154553058.squirrel@192.168.0.50> In-Reply-To: <20060802153049.37251.qmail@web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060802153049.37251.qmail@web81211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:10:58 +0100 (BST) From: bsd@bathnetworks.com To: "Mark Busby" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Office msg system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:00:14 -0000 > Looking for suggestions on a web based msg system for an office. People > are in and out quite a bit, they need to be able to log in from the road. > Prefer email, notes, and maybe bulletin board to notify just a group or > everyone in case of a disaster. > Ability to link into cell phone text msg system would be nice. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You might like to have a look at http://www.egroupware.org/. It maybe a bit overkill but it is very flexible and works well. Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 21:02:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E4B16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3893943D7D for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:02:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2149859uge for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.237.1 with SMTP id o1mr440244qbr; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm1581571qba.2006.08.02.14.02.24; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D1DC242; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:02:23 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: <20060802202249.4E2EB758FD@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net> References: <20060802202249.4E2EB758FD@mxo3.broadbandsupport.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060802165119.AEEA.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Cc: Ron Clark Subject: Re: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:02:36 -0000 Ron Clark wrote: > Good day all, > > I am building a new server and need Mysql. I have tried to install > 4.1 server and 5.0 server. Both error out during the build. I try to > restart the install and it installs, but then will not start because > /var/log/mysql directory does not exist. I create the directory and > try to restart, to no avail. > > Is there a version of Mysql that can be installed with out errors? > Are there steps that am missing to make this run? I have installed > Mysql from ports before with no errors, so this is new. > > Thanks in advance, I have MySQL-5 installed. It worked without incident. Might I suggest the following. If you have portsclean installed, part of the portupgrade package, please read the manual for it and run it. "portsclean -CLP" should do the trick. Then update your ports tree. I would recommend 'portsnap' but that decision is up to you. Then navigate to databases/mysql51-server I would recommend that you delete that directory you created manually. It probably has the wrong permissions, etc. and will cause a build problem. Do the regular "make install && make clean" and you should be good to go. Place: mysql_enable="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf file and then either reboot or run the rc.d file: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start and it will create the directories it requires. You still have to create a use though. Ciao! -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 21:20:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4249816A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-72-129-222-120.new.res.rr.com [72.129.222.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4140B43D5A for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72LKXbK012095 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:20:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (proxying for 192.168.1.6) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:20:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <55147.69.129.174.18.1154553633.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:20:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1632/Wed Aug 2 09:46:05 2006 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Need help using ssh/netcat to proxy udp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:20:38 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to use ssh and netcat to forward dns queries from a 6.1-STABLE workstation to a remote 6.1-STABLE DNS server. I was inspired by the information supplied at: http://zarb.org/~gc/html/udp-in-ssh-tunneling.html The methodology is elegant and simple, but I'm unable to get it working. Here's what I've done: local# ssh -L 6667:localhost:6667 server.foo.com server# rndc trace server# rndc querylog server# mkfifo /tmp/fifo server# nc -l -p 6667 < /tmp/fifo | nc -u 127.0.0.1 53 > /tmp/fifo local# mkfifo /tmp/fifo local# nc -l -u -p 53 < /tmp/fifo | nc localhost 6667 > /tmp/fifo local# echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf local# dig www.freebsd.org ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.freebsd.org ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached I see nothing in the server's named.run file and dig reports the server wasn't reached. Also, I'm unable to ctrl-C out of either nc command local or remote. What am I doing wrong? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 21:27:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA8016A4E1 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FD3943D55 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 46368 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2006 21:27:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4rE5iUtev5RYEhELiJsshKvOaUff8oYSrqZQJwPUVeiHX5UO6Wk2NSh8iPVCjqlzU2a/ea4hUVDk8rZ7dMx9hFUXCZwYbEPZo7N+NbA7fhUNgdYdTiFgpcfLND2TPfccz86vlGRI/XjBB4iCKLEZyWyq8Oh1nbINk8A1ul45gVY= ; Message-ID: <20060802212710.46366.qmail@web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:27:10 CEST Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:27:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: upgrade port, a couple of questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:27:12 -0000 Hi, How can I see which ports depend on libgmp-4.1.4_1? If I upgrade it, the applications that are using the old libgmp would be affected? Thanks... Efren Bravo. ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZWZyZW5iYQ%3D%3D ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 21:47:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD5716A4E5 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A3643D5F for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nb_root@videotron.ca) Received: from clk01a ([24.202.77.103]) by VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3E00M5M4IZAF00@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:47:16 -0400 From: Nicolas Blais In-reply-to: <20060802212710.46366.qmail@web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200608021747.23216.nb_root@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart4196585.935RhiWVSG; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20060802212710.46366.qmail@web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Cc: Efren Bravo Subject: Re: upgrade port, a couple of questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:47:31 -0000 --nextPart4196585.935RhiWVSG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:27, Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi, > > How can I see which ports depend on > libgmp-4.1.4_1? > > If I upgrade it, the applications that are using > the old libgmp would be affected? > > Thanks... > > Efren Bravo. If you go into /var/db/pkg/libgmp-4.1.4_1 you'll see a file called=20 +REQUIRED_BY. Read it (cat "+REQUIRED_BY") to see which ports require libgm= p. You usually do not have to rebuild those ports unless there was a major cha= nge=20 in the library. It's up to you to know if you need to rebuild them or not. Nicolas. =2D-=20 =46reeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #11: Sun Jul 30 12:12:59 EDT 2006 =20 root@clk01a:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A=20 PGP? : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc --nextPart4196585.935RhiWVSG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0R1r4wTBlvcsbJURAujQAJ9g3Ye4cP5lTHY+vK6RTHOgftYbwwCeK+mz qky+sTTorZPE4dsSzP7mzQU= =bFds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4196585.935RhiWVSG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 21:58:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628516A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6BF43D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:58:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:58:22 +0200 id 0003980D.44D11FFE.000044C8 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:58:22 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:58:24 -0000 Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp) 19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) Thanks for any advice. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 22:04:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F7A16A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from relay.aplus.net (relay.aplus.net [216.55.128.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE7C43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:04:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from [216.55.131.248] (helo=[192.168.191.103]) by relay.aplus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8OpV-00064X-EY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:04:41 -0700 Message-ID: <44D12178.8060007@scottevil.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:04:40 -0700 From: Scott Oertel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802212710.46366.qmail@web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608021747.23216.nb_root@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <200608021747.23216.nb_root@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: upgrade port, a couple of questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:04:42 -0000 Nicolas Blais wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:27, Efren Bravo wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> How can I see which ports depend on >> libgmp-4.1.4_1? >> >> If I upgrade it, the applications that are using >> the old libgmp would be affected? >> >> Thanks... >> >> Efren Bravo. >> > > If you go into /var/db/pkg/libgmp-4.1.4_1 you'll see a file called > +REQUIRED_BY. Read it (cat "+REQUIRED_BY") to see which ports require libgmp. > > You usually do not have to rebuild those ports unless there was a major change > in the library. It's up to you to know if you need to rebuild them or not. > > Nicolas. > > This is a question i've had for a while, so this ("+REQUIRED_BY") checks what depends on libgmp, how do you check what libgmp depends on? Scott. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 22:09:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E151116A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from mxo1.broadbandsupport.net (mxo1.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A91C43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:09:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from atmail4.ibbsonline.com (atmail4.ibbsonline.com [209.55.3.53]) by mxo1.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5694314282 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=atmail4.ibbsonline.com) by atmail4.ibbsonline.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8OuV-0004Mf-It for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:09:51 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Clark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:09:51 -0400 X-Uidl: 1154550817.H574571P19402.atmail7.ibbsonline.comS=4882 X-Mailer: AtMail 4.11 Message-Id: <20060802220951.E5694314282@mxo1.broadbandsupport.net> X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-From: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net X-Spam-Status: No MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:10:00 -0000 Yes, ports tree is current. I just ran cvsup yesterday. That= sould be current enough, right? Ron On Wed= Aug 2 16:25 , Eric sent: Ron Clark wrote: =0D > Good day all, =0D > =0D > I am building a new server and need Mys=3Dl. I have tried to insta= ll =0D > 4.1 server and 5.0 server. Both error out durin=3D the build. I try= to =0D > restart the install and it installs, but then will no=3D start beca= use =0D > /var/log/mysql directory does not exist. I create the direc=3Dory a= nd =0D > try to restart, to no avail. =0D > =0D > Is there a version of My=3Dql that can be installed with out error= s? =0D > Are there steps that am mi=3Dsing to make this run? I have install= ed =0D > Mysql from ports before with no er=3Dors, so this is new. =0D > =0D > Thanks in advance, =0D > =0D > Ron C =0D > =0D =0D is your ports tree current? =0D _______________________________________________ =0D [1]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list =0D [2]Ma= ilScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from ".." claiming to be http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions =0D To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[3]freebsd-questions-= unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =0D =0D = References 1. 3D"javascript:top.opencompose('freebsd-questions@freebsd.org','',''= 2. file://localhost/tmp/3D"../parse.pl?redirect=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Flists.free= 3. 3D"javascript:top.opencompos= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 22:25:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F7516A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E338D43D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:25:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72MP7jS015154; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k72MP7m5015153; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:25:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200608022225.k72MP7m5015153@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: dick@nagual.nl (dick hoogendijk) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:25:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:25:09 -0000 > > Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) > The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" > What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. > Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp) > 19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) > Thanks for any advice. If the quality is good, go for the bigger one. Then you can set back a little instead of hunching forward to see the little stuff. The sharpness will be so much better than an old CRT that the tiny difference in sharpness will not be meaningful. ////jerry > > -- > dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 22:34:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B902B16A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CAF43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:34:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8PHx-0003EH-23 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:34:05 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G8PHw-0003Bn-27 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:34:04 +0100 Message-ID: <44D12858.8030704@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:34:00 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060802212710.46366.qmail@web25214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200608021747.23216.nb_root@videotron.ca> <44D12178.8060007@scottevil.com> In-Reply-To: <44D12178.8060007@scottevil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: upgrade port, a couple of questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:34:06 -0000 Scott Oertel wrote: > Nicolas Blais wrote: >> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 17:27, Efren Bravo wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> How can I see which ports depend on >>> libgmp-4.1.4_1? >>> >>> If I upgrade it, the applications that are using >>> the old libgmp would be affected? >>> >>> Thanks... >>> >>> Efren Bravo. >>> >> >> If you go into /var/db/pkg/libgmp-4.1.4_1 you'll see a file called >> +REQUIRED_BY. Read it (cat "+REQUIRED_BY") to see which ports require >> libgmp. >> >> You usually do not have to rebuild those ports unless there was a >> major change in the library. It's up to you to know if you need to >> rebuild them or not. >> >> Nicolas. >> >> > This is a question i've had for a while, so this ("+REQUIRED_BY") checks > what depends on libgmp, how do you check what libgmp depends on? pkg_info? -r Show the list of packages on which each package depends. -R Show the list of installed packages which require each package. Also I've found portmanager copes pretty well with most dependencies. Chris > > > Scott. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 22:34:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665C916A4E9 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BF243D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:34:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G8PIa-000PUw-7f; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:34:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: <200608022225.k72MP7m5015153@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <200608022225.k72MP7m5015153@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <49EC2510-6D98-4F54-A9AC-64EAE66DB9BA@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:34:43 -0600 To: dick hoogendijk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:34:45 -0000 On Aug 2, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) >> The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" >> What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. >> Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal >> sharp) >> 19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) >> Thanks for any advice. > > If the quality is good, go for the bigger one. > Then you can set back a little instead of hunching > forward to see the little stuff. The sharpness will > be so much better than an old CRT that the tiny difference > in sharpness will not be meaningful. It all depends on your eyes :-) I don't know what the costs are in Holland but you may want to see if you can find a 19" widescreen (1440x900) screen... I just got one from "Hanns-G" for $180 and it is quite nice and in the same ballpark as standard 19" but with more "usable" space. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:03:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EF516A4DE for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926C643D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:03:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72N343Z046512; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:03:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: "Matti J. Karki" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:03:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <1b15366e0608020314y1d54a12fv77b066c0a8bbe020@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1b15366e0608020314y1d54a12fv77b066c0a8bbe020@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021803.04152.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help troubleshooting man X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:03:07 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 05:14, Matti J. Karki wrote: > On 8/1/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > i remember a thread from a few weeks back, that i followed closely, but > > was never able to resolve my issue as the original poster did. i have a > > 6.1-STABLE system that the bulk of my mans to not work, but some that are > > recently installed from ports are working. can someone guide me thru > > trouble shooting this issue? > > I managed to get this kind of situation by installing first the > "minimal set" (or "distribution") and then installing everything else > from the ports. The minimal installation set does not have man pages. > To get small - but fully functional - installation, I had to install > the "User set", which contains the required binaries and all relevant > documentation files. Maybe re-running the sysinstall and selecting > appropriate distribution set could help? > > > -Matti well, i thought about that for a moment, and i wasnt able to come to any real conclusion. 1) i have only one box that is running STABLE, and its my x/kde workstation. this is also my only computer with half-broken man pages. 2) i have several production and development servers (no desktops), and they are all RELENG. all my releng boxes have working man pages. what do i need to check between my working releng and my stable workstation to find the difference in why the stable has broken mans? tia, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:07:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8D316A4DF for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabing@omc.net) Received: from office.omc.net (office.omc.net [212.77.224.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F8C43D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:07:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rabing@omc.net) Received: from xoffice.omc.net (xoffice.omc.net [212.77.224.172]) by office.omc.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k72N7GWp073202 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:07:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabing@omc.net) Received: from [212.77.224.50] (lutz.omc.net [212.77.224.50]) by xoffice.omc.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k72N7HGG093305 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:07:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabing@omc.net) From: "Lutz Rabing" Organization: OMCnet IS GmbH To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:07:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44D14C43.10957.1C8B605A@rabing.omc.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: Subject: 4TB filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rabing@omc.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:07:23 -0000 hi all, is someone still working on the "bigdisk" project? it becomes more an more easy to create disk arrays bigger than 2TB ... it would be a "really nice to have" feature. lutz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:08:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510F616A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B61343D95 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k72N8dQ2046558 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:08:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:08:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <1b15366e0608020314y1d54a12fv77b066c0a8bbe020@mail.gmail.com> <200608021803.04152.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200608021803.04152.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608021808.39637.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: need help troubleshooting man X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:08:46 -0000 On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:03, Jonathan Horne wrote: > 1) i have only one box that is running STABLE, and its my x/kde > workstation. =A0 this is also my only computer with half-broken man pages. > 2) i have several production and development servers (no desktops), and > they are all RELENG. =A0all my releng boxes have working man pages. i neglected to mention that *all* of my systems were installed as minimal,= =20 reguardless if they ended up as releng servers or stable workstation. tia, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:08:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7108316A504 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B69743D88 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k72N8bcD020808 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k72N8ban020807 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:08:31 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060802230830.GA20799@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: qauestion using ed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:08:57 -0000 Guys, How, pray tel, do I use ed to delete 23 lines? I can find "foo" with /foo, but then .,20d or .,+20d or .,+20 d don't work. Anybody? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:38:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2C316A4E2 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC243D60 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:37:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFEA291B03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:37:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05422-04; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6732D290C74; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:37:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id BFFA75C663; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:37:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90FC345BF; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:37:58 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:37:58 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:38:05 -0000 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the > FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this how > everyone else handles the problem? User A installs FreeBSD, registers, works with it for a week, finds he isn't getting anything done with it, wipes the drive and goes to something else ... User B installs FreeBSD 5.x, registers, works with it for a while and decides to CVSup to -CURRENT, so now we have an artificially high # of 6.x installs, and an artificially low # of 7.x installs ... nobody looks to be moving to 7.x, therefore why support it from a vendors perspective ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:52:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D36416A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0E943D4C for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F1A79B497; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:22:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:22:08 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Mike Fern Message-ID: <20060802235208.GS48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bGopQmzlzQgFk3Fg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing user password from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:52:12 -0000 --bGopQmzlzQgFk3Fg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 16:48:48 +0700, Mike Fern wrote: > Dear all, > Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from > command line? Of course. I thought it was the only way. $ man -k password passwd(1), yppasswd(1) - modify a user's password =46rom that man page: HISTORY A passwd command appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX. By comparison, pw(8) is a newcomer. In fact, the passwd command was in the Third Edition of Research UNIX, back in 1973. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --bGopQmzlzQgFk3Fg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0TqoIubykFB6QiMRAgiEAJ9Rk24C1fu4rkc0raR+f08YEAGkcwCgpLjq v2c7p4Ca1W5TubDuVTn1ljs= =4W6p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bGopQmzlzQgFk3Fg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:54:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4557916A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7112143D53 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 818789B497; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:24:32 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:24:32 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Simon Phoenix Message-ID: <20060802235432.GT48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> <200608021553.19086.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200608021553.19086.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing user password from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:54:34 -0000 --HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 15:53:07 +0300, Simon Phoenix wrote: > On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:48, Mike Fern wrote: >> Dear all, >> Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from >> command line? >> We can add a user using single line pw (pw useradd), but i need >> ability to set the password also, instead of old command "passwd user" >> and then writing to stdin. > > man pw > > Look for -h option description. The advantage of using passwd(1) is that it is available on all UNIX-like systems (pw(8) isn't), and that it's easier to use. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0Ts4IubykFB6QiMRAlnfAJ9wM/fmi5Y2cs0tRJag7w1AOebsHgCeML2c qk8EjiD7t4A45iJFdYp74F0= =RmS6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HqPpMaT+a6TeY/Q4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:56:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB0516A4DD for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C7743D6E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so825902nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:55:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ToEXLEZRn/hjONwRfmvDfy7ldLHNECUeCOPExMdRILv1tIiuDl0IpHsM0QcR5kAp1o2LrjeHRzHKsI4KKXPb+be97Bp5iMkWTXugPZ4C7msSM96U3aefVqr1btdI3p/EmJbpSVvGVnP7XGkiEXfG6tAh94NF6EA5Q0kWsMD9a2E= Received: by 10.78.147.19 with SMTP id u19mr566841hud; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:55:55 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "dick hoogendijk" In-Reply-To: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:56:00 -0000 On 8/2/06, dick hoogendijk wrote: > Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) > The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" > What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. > Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp) > 19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) > Thanks for any advice. > Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 23:59:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F2916A4E0 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C55443D46 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:59:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AC612A777; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alexis.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 82858-02-2; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 7303C12A749; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:59:03 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060802235903.GA84728@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20060802230830.GA20799@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060802230830.GA20799@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Cc: Subject: Re: qauestion using ed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:59:05 -0000 On Wed, Aug 02, 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > How, pray tel, do I use ed to delete 23 lines? I can find "foo" > with /foo, but then .,20d or .,+20d or .,+20 d don't work. .,.+20d +20d If you use the ``ex'' invocation of vi(m), ``20dd'' should do it. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 ``Perhaps, when committing your first federal crime, it would be unwise to slap your name and address on it and mail it to 10,000 people.'' --Dogbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:04:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901016A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A2643D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 342287753 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:04:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 14396 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 00:04:03 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 00:04:03 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D13D71.2070205@ywave.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:04:01 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <58ebaa710608020248r1cfb7915t4caa0f6fcdbecb84@mail.gmail.com> <200608021553.19086.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> <20060802235432.GT48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20060802235432.GT48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Simon Phoenix , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing user password from command line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:04:05 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 15:53:07 +0300, Simon Phoenix wrote: >> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 12:48, Mike Fern wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> Does anybody know a program which is able to change user password from >>> command line? >>> We can add a user using single line pw (pw useradd), but i need >>> ability to set the password also, instead of old command "passwd user" >>> and then writing to stdin. >> man pw >> >> Look for -h option description. > > The advantage of using passwd(1) is that it is available on all > UNIX-like systems (pw(8) isn't), and that it's easier to use. pw's ability to alter password files in directories other than /etc comes in handy sometimes. Unless there's an undocumented way to do this with passwd. - Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:12:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371D516A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA43943D55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:12:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41815 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 00:12:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vo8WuBELx/uc6r3fn6eC7tqZOuvRhtJrPI/m+ffbWFMmgUx/KKnbhNTD7KZDPoPSGwYQAowoacf2NB9wNf93fzCFMRFNRCGLFBkfQ+ULyxm8plbKaAju5I/xqtYieode0HmC1BfYDgMZiD8nMMUBn958527Hc7DBv+QEqwxbVnE= ; Message-ID: <20060803001240.41813.qmail@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.28] by web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:12:40 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: rabing@omc.net In-Reply-To: <44D14C43.10957.1C8B605A@rabing.omc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4TB filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:12:41 -0000 --- Lutz Rabing wrote: > hi all, > > is someone still working on the "bigdisk" project? > it becomes > more an more easy to create disk arrays bigger than > 2TB ... it > would be a "really nice to have" feature. > > lutz > Nice to have, but I wouldn't want to fsck it! :) Nicole > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:24:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C6316A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9233743D7B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08257291B03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07056-04; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BF4290C74; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 4DA045C1A0; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E2D46DE7; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:26 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:24:26 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: "Peter A. Giessel" In-Reply-To: <44D13ABA.1000606@mac.com> Message-ID: <20060802211639.E6529@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D13ABA.1000606@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Nikolas Britton , Alex Zbyslaw , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:24:38 -0000 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2006/08/02 15:37, User Freebsd seems to have typed: >> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> >>> This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the >>> FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this how >>> everyone else handles the problem? > > I'd fill out a form to "register" FreeBSD, I did so with OpenOffice, and > I did so with MacOSX, but I'm not going to let a DHD (dial home device) > knowingly sit on my server. Thats one (of many) reasons I don't use > Microsoft. I'll remove it before the "installworld" step if need be. Pine has a nice feature in it ... when you upgrade or install, the first thing it prompts you for when you start it up the first time is whether or not you wish to send a message in to be counted as a pine user ... its an opt-in sort of thing, but highly visible ... Maybe have something like this at the very end of the installworld? So that it isn't automatic, but it is an obvious step that ppl go through? It should also be included as part of sysinstall, again, opt-in ... "do you want to have you install counted?" ... sysinstall should report it as a fresh install, installworld as an upgrade ... The problem with something like this, mind you, is that the #s go up, but never come down (ie. someone retires a server), since there is no 'refresh timeout' ... The thing I was hoping for / looking at was some sort of update mechanism, so that retired servers would 'fade out' of the numbers ... the problem is that that requires *some sort* of DHD, whether it be in the form of something like uptimec, or a 'periodic monthly' report that goes out to say "i'm still alive" :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:25:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD42916A4E2 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BDB43D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:25:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so272043pyb for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=No77mhWnyor3qqwHiq5UqFcSiOeiPR/AXrkBlqQ2M5jHOIIYSIW4LzksJAtxkjuFfDa5S/QzwKRBn5MkGPv4q/GpdUdM2TF2DupIxAUMD9u7zh7FrDRedEjLkcS3RdwsdQ16hd8HnsbGhh2dm6IbanKv/6waRoR1o43vFui/KfI= Received: by 10.35.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr2297952pyn; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.76.20 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000608021725y1070be50g171be359e4ee795d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:25:04 -0700 From: "pete wright" To: "FreeBSD questions mailing list" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Portmanger getting stuck in loop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:25:08 -0000 Hi all, I've got a portmanager question. I've been using it for quite some time on various systems with great success - until today when i ctl+c'd in the wrong terminal and broke an upgrade that was going on. Now when i try to re-run portmanger to get a list of out of date ports I am getting this: 00109 ----:p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt MISSING 00110 ----:p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 MISSING 00111 ----:p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address MISSING 00112 ----:lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 MISSING I've tried various portmanager upgrade attempts (using -u/-f/ and -p) and all seem to fail with similar messages as this: skipping p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make skipping lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 marked IGNORE reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make soo...my question is, is there a way to reset the "state" of what portmanger things is installed (and what rev's etc...). i am not even sure if portmanger does this, although i am familiar with rebuilding the pkgdb after i messed up when using portupgrade ;) thanks for any pointers/help! -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:28:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E21016A4E1 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F0343D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k730Rsro021699 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k730RstQ021698 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:53 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20060803002753.GA21663@thought.org> References: <20060802230830.GA20799@thought.org> <20060802235903.GA84728@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060802235903.GA84728@alexis.mi.celestial.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Subject: Re: qauestion using ed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:28:03 -0000 On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 04:59:03PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Guys, > > > > How, pray tel, do I use ed to delete 23 lines? I can find "foo" > > with /foo, but then .,20d or .,+20d or .,+20 d don't work. > > .,.+20d > > +20d > > If you use the ``ex'' invocation of vi(m), ``20dd'' should do it. > > Bill Thankee! This works for most /patterns, but " X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8328916A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C2F43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:48:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so838688nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pE9cCcBJpBLGd7ZSCpAxy2rW68NsjX9YcIQw6DV5vK9GkBnBgXXrU3yX/BO7gMNAua9sHnM6Ep5cNB/epMzzteOrSjee2d9V4t4JeO01WSbup8OdhM8m6h8uOnbrt94TTkMFkDAR8hrYCTLKa8plucdszZjRefGJmHwrEe7PXnA= Received: by 10.78.124.2 with SMTP id w2mr563050huc; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:48:38 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: danial_thom@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060616152146.35415.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060616152146.35415.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 82563EB + Blackford on v6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:48:40 -0000 On 6/16/06, Danial Thom wrote: > It seems that most of the new MBs with the > Blackford chipset use the 82563EB dual gig intel > controller. Is there support forthcoming for the > controller? Has anyone tested with a blackford MB > yet? > Ditto... Supermicro X7DBE. Where is the driver??? These chips will be hitting the market like hot cakes very soon... Xeons don't suck anymore. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 00:50:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C0F16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C1543D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so839254nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:50:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GDkm6+XSHs/GTDe2JCZvmG8JF5tDswkktvAkUuUk+GeRYRnOQyTpqdP7G5yBpn6ic45FcVCxhphKJfLNJj55mV8U4FWlyQy+u7d/3tLmiaw+cgJCFVuw5a3iS1gwMUwRNmdS3e+4AHtCjqNs5a0o8EunVtsW0zK27Gw2Gzfivgw= Received: by 10.78.200.3 with SMTP id x3mr563488huf; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:50:50 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portmanager question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:50:52 -0000 hi guys, sorry for this newbie question, i've been upgrading my box using portupgrade but recently i'm experiencing some wierd logs that can't be explained nor solved but luckily my box does not appear to be broken, i have a question though regarding portmanager, someone on this list recommended it in lieu of portupgrade, are the following the correct procedure using portmanager?\ # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portmanager -u -l -ui or do i need to # portsdb -Uu before issuing # portmanager -u -l -ui TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 01:40:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408D716A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from overlord.navalradio.cl (overlord.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0B443D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:40:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (ppp108-110.static.internode.on.net [150.101.108.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by overlord.navalradio.cl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k731dU8k015549; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:39:34 -0400 (CLT) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:39:28 +1000 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on overlord.navalradio.cl Cc: Nikolas Britton , Alex Zbyslaw , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:40:01 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the >> FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this how >> everyone else handles the problem? > > User A installs FreeBSD, registers, works with it for a week, finds he > isn't getting anything done with it, wipes the drive and goes to something > else ... > > User B installs FreeBSD 5.x, registers, works with it for a while and > decides to CVSup to -CURRENT, so now we have an artificially high # of 6.x > installs, and an artificially low # of 7.x installs ... nobody looks to be > moving to 7.x, therefore why support it from a vendors perspective ... Right, I've been following this thread from the start but didn't want to get involved, even though I felt this is important and necessary. I've come up with this token-based registration idea: Agent: Knock, knock... Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... Agent: I don't have them... I'm a newborn. Server: Ok. Here's one for you $token1 and come back in 7 days. 7 days later (or more if it's a laptop) Agent: Knock, knock... Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... Agent: I only have 1 token. Server: Ok. There you go $token2. Get back in 7 days. 7 days later (or more if it's a laptop) Agent: Knock, knock... Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... Agent: Take them, $token1 and $token2. Server (compares tokens): Thanks, now give us some info about yourself. Agent: Ok, sending $information. Server: Thanks, this is another $token3 for you. Come back in 7 days. ... beyond this point the agent is officially registered but must maintain its rego by reporting every 7 days and keep providing latest 2 tokens ... In short, an agent must earn the registration. In this case it takes 2 weeks. Once it registers, it becomes a real number in the stats. If that agent stops reporting for a few months then it gets removed from the stats. If agent's computer upgrades, then it doesn't matter because it still sends $information (with updates) every time it reports. If another agent steals the tokens then it isn't an issue. The victim gets rejected until it collects new tokens. This is because stolen tokens already got registered. The burglar, in the other hand, stays with that stolen registration and resubmits its own $information (uname, dmesg, whatever), which overwrites victim's data. To strengthen the system and avoid token high-jacks we could increment the number and complexity of tokens. >From users' point of view, there are no registration or scary configurations. The system takes over and does everything behind the scenes. For sure, the only necessary thing would be an enable_rego=YES or similar line in /etc/rc.conf. In order to cater for the demand, I reckon there would be enough people willing to donate servers and bandwidth (I'd be one of them). Agents also could detect the closest server on their own and report to it (fastest_cvsup[1] style)... Ok, I'll stop here for now. Cheers, Mikhail. [1] - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup/pkg-descr -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide Telephone: +61 (0)3 62252501 Mobile Phone: +61 (0)4 38255158 E-Mail: mikhailg@webanoide.org Web: http://www.webanoide.org PGP Key ID: 0x4E148A3B PGP Key Fingerprint: D96B 7C14 79A5 8824 B99D 9562 F50E 2F5D 4E14 8A3B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 02:00:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB99216A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAA743D5D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:00:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 29171 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2006 01:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (216.186.148.249) by smtp3.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 01:54:34 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:00:43 -0500 To: freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:00:47 -0000 On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than 30" http://www.apple.com/displays/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:30:48 -0000 Mikhail Goriachev writes: > User Freebsd wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> >>> This may sound dumb but why don't we just put a registration link on the >>> FreeBSD main page... or "registration" in sysinstall. Isn't this how >>> everyone else handles the problem? >> >> User A installs FreeBSD, registers, works with it for a week, finds he >> isn't getting anything done with it, wipes the drive and goes to something >> else ... >> >> User B installs FreeBSD 5.x, registers, works with it for a while and >> decides to CVSup to -CURRENT, so now we have an artificially high # of 6.x >> installs, and an artificially low # of 7.x installs ... nobody looks to be >> moving to 7.x, therefore why support it from a vendors perspective ... > > > Right, I've been following this thread from the start but didn't want to > get involved, even though I felt this is important and necessary. I've > come up with this token-based registration idea: > > Agent: Knock, knock... > Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... > Agent: I don't have them... I'm a newborn. > Server: Ok. Here's one for you $token1 and come back in 7 days. > > 7 days later (or more if it's a laptop) > > Agent: Knock, knock... > Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... > Agent: I only have 1 token. > Server: Ok. There you go $token2. Get back in 7 days. > > 7 days later (or more if it's a laptop) > > Agent: Knock, knock... > Server: Hi, give us your last 2 tokens... > Agent: Take them, $token1 and $token2. > Server (compares tokens): Thanks, now give us some info about yourself. > Agent: Ok, sending $information. > Server: Thanks, this is another $token3 for you. Come back in 7 days. > > ... beyond this point the agent is officially registered but must > maintain its rego by reporting every 7 days and keep providing latest 2 > tokens ... > > > In short, an agent must earn the registration. In this case it takes 2 > weeks. Once it registers, it becomes a real number in the stats. If that > agent stops reporting for a few months then it gets removed from the > stats. If agent's computer upgrades, then it doesn't matter because it > still sends $information (with updates) every time it reports. > > If another agent steals the tokens then it isn't an issue. The victim > gets rejected until it collects new tokens. This is because stolen > tokens already got registered. The burglar, in the other hand, stays > with that stolen registration and resubmits its own $information (uname, > dmesg, whatever), which overwrites victim's data. To strengthen the > system and avoid token high-jacks we could increment the number and > complexity of tokens. > >>From users' point of view, there are no registration or scary > configurations. The system takes over and does everything behind the > scenes. For sure, the only necessary thing would be an enable_rego=YES > or similar line in /etc/rc.conf. > > In order to cater for the demand, I reckon there would be enough people > willing to donate servers and bandwidth (I'd be one of them). Agents > also could detect the closest server on their own and report to it > (fastest_cvsup[1] style)... > > Ok, I'll stop here for now. > > > Cheers, > Mikhail. > > > [1] - > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup/pkg-descr > You still can't avoid fakeries. In fact, I guess that unless one uses some kinds of Genuine Advantage things, you can not tell if the data is true. However, acquiring a unique id from the server is a good idea to prevent from duplication, if the bandwidth permits. Therefore, why not simplify it? 1. Require an ID from the server after installation if permitted by the user. 2. Provide the ID and `uname -mr` periodically or in a randomized time interval between one to two months. Or simply let the user decide when to run it. But states clearly that it'll overload the server if all the clients connect simultaneously. Let me say it again. There are three problems we are trying to solve. a. Bandwidth. b. Duplicates. c. Fakery. By randomizing the time interval, bandwidth can no longer be a problem. And the uniqueness is assured by the ID generated in the server. Finally, I can't see any open source solution could prevent some people from generating fake boxes, even with some serial number of the hardwares. Can we do some checks of the hardware serial numbers? Okay, even if we do, we are going to touch too much privacy. So just forget about it. -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 02:35:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E93116A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6072843D62 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:35:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k732YVUb071556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:34:42 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k732YU9e035221; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:34:30 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:34:30 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200608030234.k732YU9e035221@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: xj2106@columbia.edu In-reply-to: <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> (message from Xiao-Yong Jin on Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:30:45 -0400) References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:35:11 -0000 > You still can't avoid fakeries. Except that the fake will not bother coming back 3 times at one week interval, just to plant his faked data. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 03:29:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEA316A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B5143D58 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:29:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G8Ttr-000EZj-10 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:29:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:29:30 -0600 To: freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:29:32 -0000 On Aug 2, 2006, at 8:00 PM, David Kelly wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. > > So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less > than 30" > http://www.apple.com/displays/ > Don't stop there. Two of said, or at least one of said and one smaller one... (I have the 30" and the 20" on my G5 :-) I am interested to see what Steve announces next week at the Apple developers conference next week (WWDC). Rumor is it will be the Pro intel based machines. Would like one with dual 30" :-) Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 03:39:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3816A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD3043D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k733cxnd004604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:39:02 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <200608030234.k732YU9e035221@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:38:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200608030234.k732YU9e035221@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (Olivier Nicole's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:34:30 +0700 (ICT)") Message-ID: <87mzamij3g.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:39:03 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: >> You still can't avoid fakeries. > > Except that the fake will not bother coming back 3 times at one week > interval, just to plant his faked data. > Yes, just put it in the crontab. Easy, isn't it? > Olivier > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 04:25:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC616A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 04:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A021843D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 04:25:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA19E291B07; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:24:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05442-03; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 04:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6D9291B05; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:24:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id A405C3B34E; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:25:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCD635BEF; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:25:04 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:25:04 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Xiao-Yong Jin In-Reply-To: <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Message-ID: <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:25:01 -0000 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Let me say it again. There are three problems we are trying to > solve. > > a. Bandwidth. Bandwidth, IMHO, isn't that big of an issue ... the ramp up time for this, IMHO, will be slow, so the bandwidth usage will be a gradual increase ... > b. Duplicates. Ted seems to have this covered with the CPU ID thing ... > c. Fakery. IMHO, not a *really* big issue ... I could see someone bothering to do it once or twice, but seems to be "alot of work for little gain" ... The main problem that I see is finding a method of doing this that a majority of ppl can agree with ... and then convincing Core of the merits, a group that hasn't even voiced an opinion in this conversation yet ... :( Without Core endorsement, this whole thing is a still birth, unfortunately ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 05:23:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A9116A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 05:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zope@2012.vi) Received: from efit.xs4all.nl (efit.xs4all.nl [82.92.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E009C43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 05:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from zope@2012.vi) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (dpc67143135132.direcpc.com [67.143.135.132]) by efit.xs4all.nl (Weasel v1.73) for ; 03 Aug 2006 07:20:33 Message-ID: <44D18853.7030706@2012.vi> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:23:31 -0400 From: beno User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44CFEF50.2090403@2012.vi> <44mzan54rn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44mzan54rn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Adding To Path X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:23:45 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Did you mean to use the "-m" option? > No. Someone pointed out the file to edit, which I knew existed but couldn't find ;) Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 05:21:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D049616A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 05:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bvelicu@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983F543D6A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 05:21:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bvelicu@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([209.89.93.52]) by priv-edtnes44.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.05.01.01 201-2174-106-103-20060222) with ESMTP id <20060803052115.TNBQ23130.priv-edtnes44.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:21:15 -0600 Received: from casio (d209-89-93-52.abhsia.telus.net [209.89.93.52]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 77BDUNJX0L for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:21:15 -0600 (MDT) From: "Mihai Velicu" To: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:21:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Aca2vJv17H999UXUQhCNBMVtr4qjBA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20060803052115.77BDUNJX0L@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:28:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: user limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:21:20 -0000 Can someone tell me where I can find some resources for limiting user account. As example to not execute some programs to not see the content of some folders and so on. Thank you, Mihai From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 06:28:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76E816A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F95943D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:28:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so920756nfc for ; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XZSUPNjY1tcadAEVGytDMzqkJoZIWnhRR284Vsl3pcWmATxb+8R73wj62nVEPPOw9g6JSkAE/3b+58Tvxwr+LLTRDCGjsBXPzlJT/eU4QcRY+qFONRwn/LGIaCIgIOdxrBmcA6WJrow4Dumbf5PSMQixzNSK0Mg5T1gBavg0Cng= Received: by 10.78.117.10 with SMTP id p10mr622738huc; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:27:55 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1949_5887851.1154586475179" Subject: Fastest disk in the west or bad iozone numbers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:28:02 -0000 ------=_Part_1949_5887851.1154586475179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Anyone have a clue why iozone reports disk read rates of 688MegaBytes/s on a 1GB test file? Am I doing something stupid, like not converting the numbers correctly? 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------=_Part_1949_5887851.1154586475179-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 06:59:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B62A16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidschulz@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF8443D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 06:59:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davidschulz@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1G8XAc1erW-0005uP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:59:03 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.tcaportal.com [127.0.0.1]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C9CD8A6C2B for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:57:09 +0800 (HKT) Received: from [10.0.1.54] (fmserver7.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.54]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AAFA6C1F; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:57:05 +0800 (HKT) In-Reply-To: <20060801114923.F90694@cgate.yournetplus.com> References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801114923.F90694@cgate.yournetplus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3F082484-21F1-4829-80A0-5927F58CD635@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:58:54 +0800 To: Duane Hill X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:37effd271f1273fee1ef7b6f027aaac5 Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:59:07 -0000 I can only recommend a program called dspam, which is also in the ports. I personally had a very hard time to install and configure it, so this is not a praise only, but once i had it running it almost immediately started taking care on 99 percent of my spam. On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Duane Hill wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: > >> Micah writes: >> >>> > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. >>> > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. >>> > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? >>> >>> I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an >>> okay job. >> >> While I run (and like) this combination myself, there are at >> least two caveats of which one ought to be aware: >> >> 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is >> fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. > > This is because SpamAssassin is CPU and memory intensive. High- > volume, I wouldn't see running on anything less than a dual 2.8ghz > with a bare minimum of 4gig ram (8 would be better). > >> 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I >> have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more >> frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. >> >> >> Robert Huff >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > -- > "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:1,44cf40586291601157756! > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 07:19:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF516A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linux-sh-admin@m17n.org) Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org (tsukuba.m17n.org [192.47.44.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3DF43D55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:19:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linux-sh-admin@m17n.org) Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k737JFt2027327 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:19:15 +0900 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:19:15 +0900 From: linux-sh-admin@m17n.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <200608031619.FMLAAA27325.linux-sh@m17n.org> References: <200608030719.k737IvEW027319@tsukuba.m17n.org> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact linux-sh-admin@m17n.org; X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=failed version=3.0.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on tsukuba.m17n.org Subject: Subscribe request result (linux-sh ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: linux-sh-ctl@m17n.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:19:18 -0000 Hi, I am the fml mailing list manager for . 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If you would like to subscribe this mailing list subscribe YOUR NAME For example subscribe Hayakawa Aoi Hi, I am the fml ML manager for the ML . --linux-sh@m17n.org, Be Seeing You! ************************************************************ If you have any questions or problems, please contact linux-sh-admin@m17n.org ************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 07:40:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B53E16A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8794143D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:40:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony1.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2006 15:40:34 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,207,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="588935161:sNHT17541088" Message-ID: <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:40:22 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:40:37 -0000 On 3/08/2006 2:25 PM, User Freebsd wrote: >> b. Duplicates. > > Ted seems to have this covered with the CPU ID thing ... Isn't this one of those things that BIOS vendors added a "Disable" flag to their BIOS setup's for in order to prevent the wide-spread privacy concerns that cropped up when it was first released? I'm fairly sure this is disabled on most of the systems I've built... The token-based system mentioned by Mikhail Goriachev sounded interesting, although I haven't done any further thinking past what was originally mentioned... >> c. Fakery. > > IMHO, not a *really* big issue ... I could see someone bothering to do > it once or twice, but seems to be "alot of work for little gain" ... Agreed... I could probably add around 1,500 systems that could conceivably be setup to chime in with their numbers periodically; one of the pre-requisites for that would be that the access method be HTTP or HTTPS based so it could be relayed via a proxy... Another nice thing to include might be a hash of hardware inventory (a further opt-in thing beyond the basic checkins)... Mark alluded to this early in the piece, but it would be nice to be able to pull up something that said "hang on, out of the X% of users on file, Y% are using Adaptec SCSI cards, in particular model XYZ"... this would be very helpful when trying to get vendor support etc... Some form of hash calculated on these would allow you to detect if they had changed at all, and only re-send them in the event of a change... ... just thinking out loud ... ! -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 07:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36F516A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEA943D5A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:56:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5429BD96; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:26:22 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:26:22 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: David Kelly Message-ID: <20060803075622.GD48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ijywFOGgtBfiIjQx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:56:24 -0000 --ijywFOGgtBfiIjQx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 21:00:43 -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > >> Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. > > So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than > 30" > http://www.apple.com/displays/ The real question is resolution, not size. Even the 30" display has a resolution of only 2560x1600. A reasonable 19" CRT will do 1600x1200, or nearly 50% of that resolution. If you compare the prices ($2499 for the Apple display, about $130 for the 19" monitor), and recall that the original poster didn't want to spend much money, this really isn't an option. More to the point, though, it's not until you get to the 23" screen that you get the same resolution as my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop has (1920x1200). At $1299, it costs nearly as much as the laptop. Last month I was in this situation myself. I bought 2 new 19" monitors (BenQ P992), for about USD 130 a piece. I'm running them at 1600x1200, and they're surprisingly good. It could be a long time before I find an LCD with that resolution at even close to a comparable price. On the other hand, if HDTV ever comes off, we can expect to see a lot of 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 displays at reasonable prices. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --ijywFOGgtBfiIjQx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0awmIubykFB6QiMRArtgAJoCj0+LYiccdC5eisUkOQqBpYG5jgCeJuFz cqL1J7Bw46IcV79bZYwBnm4= =cWmh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ijywFOGgtBfiIjQx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 07:57:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA6116A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893D143D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so943028nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eW5XIFcebMZvSB7+GHG+AIFtPRheoramOH/WIZio6qSg05Wcy5XPWlCnXqlWhuNsW9PmENp89fb97R66Yo9j43o/fAvfrjj+4WKidsYP9bhxjxPSTI25wGrqG2owpuTZ5Rqk9LAqgzhO8bDXY4tr341CqJ2MzPgtqddT//PsR6Y= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr634709hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 00:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:57:18 +0800 From: "jan gestre" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3F082484-21F1-4829-80A0-5927F58CD635@tca-cable-connector.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20060731173633.V15966@justnosweat.net> <44CED510.4070000@ywave.com> <17615.14574.739939.247118@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801114923.F90694@cgate.yournetplus.com> <3F082484-21F1-4829-80A0-5927F58CD635@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: spamfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:57:21 -0000 On 8/3/06, David Schulz wrote: > > I can only recommend a program called dspam, which is also in the > ports. I personally had a very hard time to install and configure it, > so this is not a praise only, but once i had it running it almost > immediately started taking care on 99 percent of my spam. i use dspam too and so far i seldom see a spam in my mailserver. On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Duane Hill wrote: > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Huff wrote: > > > >> Micah writes: > >> > >>> > I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. > >>> > There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. > >>> > Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? > >>> > >>> I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an > >>> okay job. > >> > >> While I run (and like) this combination myself, there are at > >> least two caveats of which one ought to be aware: > >> > >> 1) spamd (part of SpamAssassin) is written in perl. This is > >> fine for a workstation, not so much for a high-volume mail server. > > > > This is because SpamAssassin is CPU and memory intensive. High- > > volume, I wouldn't see running on anything less than a dual 2.8ghz > > with a bare minimum of 4gig ram (8 would be better). > > > >> 2) installing spamass-milter requires rebuilding sendmail. (I > >> have no idea about other MTAs.) This usually sounds more > >> frightening than it is, but can still lead to complications. > >> > >> > >> Robert Huff > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > -- > > "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > !DSPAM:1,44cf40586291601157756! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 08:44:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7950C16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: from web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B262843D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:44:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyskdisciplin@yahoo.se) Received: (qmail 31599 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 08:44:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.se; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FPsw8XsKsIXAp4A2uUfEdR3L2yn6Rzvhnjc97xGVUYFEx0+ocQOK9V0OBaERY9IJJLh9SSz9HJihs+8iWYDbWIV5FZ8U8zEZszCQ+IuP+kflKTBwNLCQG1UY52ch6qBT4PUiC3rlXKlUB64jlp/yOwuFdiFaopiUCpk2J67kxvk= ; Message-ID: <20060803084405.31593.qmail@web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.141.79.130] by web27605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:44:05 CEST Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:44:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Bobby Knight To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200608021750.55947.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SV: Re: Weird result of portupgrade -aRr concerning pkgconfig or is it pkg-config? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:44:07 -0000 Thank you for editing my post. Strange that freebsd does not provide any info on how to deal with these problems. I think one is supposed to invoke pkgdb -F when portupgrades fail like this. The question then is how to respond. The most recent page I could find about that is this: http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/pkgdb_F.html I haven't tried it yet but I suspect I will get some of those same questions when I do. Especieally about stale origin to pkgconfig. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 09:30:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700D16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marlon@freemail.gr) Received: from www.freemail.gr (www.freemail.gr [81.171.104.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7295B43D46 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:30:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marlon@freemail.gr) Received: from www.freemail.gr (www.freemail.gr [127.0.0.1]) by www.freemail.gr (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id k739URsd007084 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:30:27 +0300 From: marlon@freemail.gr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:30:27 +0300 Message-Id: <44d1c23354f779.69917338@freemail.gr> X-Authenticated-IP: 195.130.98.113 (195.130.98.113) X-Sender: marlon@81.171.104.54 X-Mailer: FreeMail.gr 1.08 (http://www.freemail.gr/) X-Info-1: Report spam to abuse@freemail.gr MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Subject: RealTek 8139 not identified in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: marlon@freemail.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:30:30 -0000 Hello. I have an Acer Aspire 1600 laptop with a RealTek 8139 integrated network card. The card is not identified at all in neither FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE nor in FreeBSD 5-STABLE, not even in DragonFlyBSD (which is a fork of FreeBSD 5 IIRC). "pciconf -lv" does not report back any information on the card at all. Linux and Windows however can identify the card as "RealTek 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' at 0x1800-0x18ff, Memory: EC005000-EC0050FF, IRQ 19". Since FreeBSD is a lot better for my computing needs, is there a way I can get the above card to work correctly (or even work at all) in FreeBSD? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 10:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E14916A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjkarki@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2543D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mjkarki@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2441647uge for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:26:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=R9aO3yDEAtLffaP6AmbBzptFZPzWKhb/SutzaOEbjA4joThdvWPCX1XnPwnrqX4fjjSRPKSCG3kWI/VIElkukWAolXure/MlbrffE0PFMhPJULLwEbSKwpoX0BOBQhC3O+2ViFJ26OPolTub5sQBayXWLbk8LW3vJyzM2ehAQRc= Received: by 10.67.119.13 with SMTP id w13mr2461687ugm; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.101.7 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 03:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1b15366e0608030326w3c29a45bp69b60bc285afaa24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:26:03 +0300 From: "Matti J. Karki" Sender: mjkarki@gmail.com To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200608021803.04152.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45035.167.246.36.14.1154463714.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> <1b15366e0608020314y1d54a12fv77b066c0a8bbe020@mail.gmail.com> <200608021803.04152.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 00e11d63be0c844a Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help troubleshooting man X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:26:05 -0000 On 8/3/06, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > I managed to get this kind of situation by installing first the > > "minimal set" (or "distribution") and then installing everything else > > from the ports. The minimal installation set does not have man pages. > > To get small - but fully functional - installation, I had to install > > the "User set", which contains the required binaries and all relevant > > documentation files. Maybe re-running the sysinstall and selecting > > appropriate distribution set could help? > > > > > > -Matti > > well, i thought about that for a moment, and i wasnt able to come to any real > conclusion. > > 1) i have only one box that is running STABLE, and its my x/kde workstation. > this is also my only computer with half-broken man pages. > 2) i have several production and development servers (no desktops), and they > are all RELENG. all my releng boxes have working man pages. > > what do i need to check between my working releng and my stable workstation to > find the difference in why the stable has broken mans? > Well, you could try to re-install the system manual pages (because it seems to me that those are missing): sysinstall -> Custom -> Choose Distributions -> Custom and check the "man - System manual pages" distribution set. -Matti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 11:32:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFBA16A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD0343D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2467999uge for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.95.20 with SMTP id x20mr3102017qbl; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 1sm3730903qbh.2006.08.03.04.32.26; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (boss [192.168.0.4]) (Authenticated sender: gerard@seibercom.net) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D694EBE4E; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 07:32:28 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom In-Reply-To: References: X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20060803072812.D4CD.GERARD@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25 [en] Cc: jan gestre Subject: Re: portmanager question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:32:31 -0000 jan gestre wrote: > sorry for this newbie question, i've been upgrading my box using portupgrade > but recently i'm experiencing some wierd logs that can't be explained nor > solved but luckily my box does not appear to be broken, i have a question > though regarding portmanager, someone on this list recommended it in lieu of > portupgrade, are the following the correct procedure using portmanager?\ > > # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile > # portmanager -u -l -ui > > or do i need to > > # portsdb -Uu > > before issuing > > # portmanager -u -l -ui No, you do not have to invoke 'portsdb' at all. Depending on how you want to refurbish your system, you might want to invoke either the -p or -f, but not both, flags. I never use the -ui flag. 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If you would like to sign up under a different email address, you can do so at: http://www.surfnetkids.com/emailedition.htm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 12:05:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B7816A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6444043D58 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:05:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost.dfwlp.com [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73C5FHa089714 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:05:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com ([192.168.125.83]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:05:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <58138.192.168.125.83.1154606715.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:05:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, MISSING_SUBJECT autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:05:18 -0000 im having a problem with cvsup-ing my existing sources. if i update an existing set, i get this: -=(oooooooooooooooooo)=(cvsup18.us.freebsd.org)=- Parsing supfile "/root/stable-supfile" Connecting to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs Server warning: RCS file error in "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/sys/modules/i2c/controllers/nfsmb/Makefile,v": 1: "head" expected Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully [root@zeus ~]# i use the stable-supfile, but with one changed line, to get me to RELENG: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1 command i use to cvsup is as such: cvsup -L 2 -h `(fastest_cvsup -q -c us )` /root/stable-supfile and my system is: FreeBSD zeus.dfwlp.com 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Jun 29 00:56:08 CDT 2006 root@zeus.int.dfwlp.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZEUS i386 last night i wanted to recompile the kernel, so that the next time i reboot ill have p3. when i cvsup'd my existing set, i got the above error. so i did a rm -rf /usr/src/*, cvsup'd again, and no issues. put a backup of my kernel conf file in there, and away i went. i kinda thought nothing of it until this morning, when just for kicks, i did another cvsup on the same box, and got the updating error again. none of my other boxes get an error like this, they all peform a normal cvs updating operation. any ideas? tia, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 12:38:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A0216A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE2B43D46 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:38:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.183.166]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k73Cc4gR028432 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:38:05 +1000 Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k73Ccl1g027984; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:38:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from andrewr@localhost) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k73Ccj1T027983; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:38:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) X-Authentication-Warning: c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au: andrewr set sender to A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au using -f Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:38:45 +1000 From: Andrew Robinson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060803123845.GN59927@ms.unimelb.edu.au> References: <20060803120045.C0D5616A655@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060803120045.C0D5616A655@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: marlon@freemail.gr Subject: Re: RealTek 8139 not identified in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:38:09 -0000 Hi Marlon, This thread may (or may not) prove useful to you: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2005-March/011012.html Good luck! Andrew > From: marlon@freemail.gr > Subject: RealTek 8139 not identified in FreeBSD > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <44d1c23354f779.69917338@freemail.gr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" > > > Hello. > > I have an Acer Aspire 1600 laptop with a RealTek 8139 integrated network card. > The card is not identified at all in neither FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE nor in > FreeBSD 5-STABLE, not even in DragonFlyBSD (which is a fork of FreeBSD 5 IIRC). > "pciconf -lv" does not report back any information on the card at all. > > Linux and Windows however can identify the card as "RealTek 8139 chip type > 'RTL-8100B/8139D' at 0x1800-0x18ff, Memory: EC005000-EC0050FF, IRQ 19". > > Since FreeBSD is a lot better for my computing needs, is there a way I can > get the above card to work correctly (or even work at all) in FreeBSD? > > Thanks in advance. > -- Andrew Robinson Department of Mathematics and Statistics Tel: +61-3-8344-9763 University of Melbourne, VIC 3010 Australia Fax: +61-3-8344-4599 Email: a.robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 13:05:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64FB16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpout11-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout11-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [68.178.232.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A52243D64 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:05:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 13642 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 13:05:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.48) by smtpout11-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 13:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 30440 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2006 13:05:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:05:04 -0700 From: Joshua Lewis To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20060803060504.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.e11fa7ef6b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.4.11 X-Originating-IP: 65.193.202.231 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Andrew Gould , tech.junk@verizon.net, Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:05:10 -0000 That is what I have. I got it out of the handbook. however I may have forgotten the quotes. I will try it tonight. Now there are several duplicates of that section. Should I updated each one for each resolution and each color depth? Should there be only one? If I add one for each resolution and color depth combo is there a way to switch the resolution in the WM? Thanks for the input. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. From: "Nikolas Britton" Date: Wed, August 02, 2006 1:01 pm To: "Joshua Lewis" Cc: "Andrew Gould" , "Jerry McAllister" , tech.junk@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On 8/2/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > I am actually not looking for a Windows look alike. I am simply > replacing my XP system with a BSD solution. I am looking for a fast > easy to configure and fun WM. I am absolutely looking for something > new to use. not Windows like. That is why I was looking at > enlightenment and fluxbox. but there are just so many I was hoping to > get ideas as to why one would choose one over the other. Other then > personal preference. I have been using enlightenment for about a week > and perhaps it is something I did but my resolution is stuck at > 1600x1280 at 65Hz. My monitor keeps getting mad at me and telling me > that is not the recommended solution. I have been trying to figure out > how to change it and I have updated the xorg.conf as the handbook says > but it still defaults. Unless anyone has an idea why I am going to > switch to fluxbox and see how that feels. > > > > I did want to mention that I do agree with your point. I am looking > for something new and I am looking to experiment with other ways of > doing things. But at the same time I would like a little eye candy. > After all with today's power full systems there is nothing wrong with > waisting a few CPU cycles to make the experience a little more > enjoyable. > > > > I will certainly give XFCE a try I have seen allot of recommendations > for that as well. > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look sorta like this, yours should have more Display SubSections in it: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubSection EndSection -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 13:09:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEAD16A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-04.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F8843D82 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:08:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-31-41-159.woh.res.rr.com [65.31.41.159]) by ms-smtp-04.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k73D84mc023076 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:08:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: portupgrade ruby vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:09:07 -0000 Hello, I'm getting an error from ruby whenever i run a portupgrade. Checking portaudit i see this is a vulnerability. Is there a fiix for it? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 13:31:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7789D16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (mail.storm.ca [209.87.239.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F3543D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from tigger.digitaltorque.ca (hs-216-106-102-70.storm.ca [216.106.102.70]) by mail.storm.ca (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73DVlI6023430 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tigger.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6C095240A5; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:31:42 -0400 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060803133142.GY18649@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHTUIiWqaPwZ9IpM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:31:49 -0000 --xHTUIiWqaPwZ9IpM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/06 Dave said: > Hello, > I'm getting an error from ruby whenever i run a portupgrade. Checking= =20 > portaudit i see this is a vulnerability. Is there a fiix for it? I believe that the vulnerability is ruby itself, is it not? Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein --xHTUIiWqaPwZ9IpM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFE0fq+KGqCc1vIvggRAsfcAJj6UD8kATSzbDSOCwXaOwRtIZZuAJ0VpeWY hfDSfu/OaGes6dj620JG6w== =SKis -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHTUIiWqaPwZ9IpM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 13:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCF016A4E2 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [212.95.179.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0104A43D5D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:39:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 18194 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 16:39:10 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 16:39:10 +0300 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new + Clam Antivirus at procreditbank.bg Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.procreditbank.bg [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id mS2dU1BbxmAM for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:39:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: (qmail 18185 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 13:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lotus.procreditbank.bg) (172.16.248.123) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 13:39:10 -0000 In-Reply-To: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> To: Dave MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1 January 21, 2004 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:32:59 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO_HQ/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 08/03/2006 04:33:09 PM, Serialize complete at 08/03/2006 04:33:09 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:39:14 -0000 Try to use: portupgrade -c -C -r -R -v -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES="yes" ruby I hope this will solve the issue, if you are sure you want to updrate this version :) Ivailo Tanusheff Senior System administrator ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD "Dave" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 03.08.2006 16:08 Please respond to Dave To cc Subject portupgrade ruby vulnerability Hello, I'm getting an error from ruby whenever i run a portupgrade. Checking portaudit i see this is a vulnerability. Is there a fiix for it? Thanks. Dave. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 13:53:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5853A16A4EA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECAE43D58 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:53:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 8780 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 13:53:02 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Aug 2006 13:53:02 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 034E528449; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:53:01 -0400 (EDT) To: "Mihai Velicu" References: <20060803052115.77BDUNJX0L@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:53:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060803052115.77BDUNJX0L@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> (Mihai Velicu's message of "Wed, 2 Aug 2006 23:21:02 -0600") Message-ID: <44k65qj58i.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: user limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:53:04 -0000 "Mihai Velicu" writes: > Can someone tell me where I can find some resources for limiting user > account. As example to not execute some programs to not see the content of > some folders and so on. The traditional Unix approach is with file permissions: see the FreeBSD Handbook section on "Permissions" and the chmod(1) manual page (which you can access by typing "man 1 chmod"). For more complicated permission schemes, you way want to use ACLs. See the Handbook section on "File System Access Control Lists". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 14:20:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD5516A4E2 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [213.238.47.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A02443D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:20:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: (from stb@koef.zs64.net) (authenticated) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k73EJxAJ059796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:20:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <20060727071718.GA2903@fast> References: <20060727071718.GA2903@fast> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <071A1308-E8CD-43D1-82D7-ABE4913A76FA@lassitu.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:20:37 +0200 To: Tyler Spivey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install 6.1-release through serial terminal? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:20:15 -0000 Am 27.07.2006 um 09:17 schrieb Tyler Spivey: > Hello. I'm a blind user, and was wondering how to get 6.1-release to > install over serial. I've tried everything - hitting option 6, space, > boot -h , but nothing happens. unplugging the keyboard, nothing > happens. hitting space and typing boot -h - nothing. This is using a > cdrom disc1. > Any help would be appreciated. When the boot menu appears, exit out of it by typing 6. At the loader prompt, enter set console="comconsole" The console should switch to COM1; then you should be able to boot using the "boot" command. You can change the speed of the serial port by setting comconsole_speed to the desired baud rate. The loader man page has more info on these two variables: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ man.cgi?query=loader&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1- RELEASE&format=html After having finished the install, you can use the same method to temporarily switch to the comconsole on first boot. Then, you probably want to a a file /boot.config with a single line "-Dh" to enable dual console (video+serial). Also useful: if you decide to install FreeBSD's master boot record (boot0) in sector 0 of your disk (that gives you the opportunity to select which of the foour primary partitions to boot from by pressing F1 to F4), there's also a variant that works over the serial console. You can put this on using FreeBSD boot0cfg(8): http://www.freebsd.org/ cgi/man.cgi?query=boot0cfg&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1- RELEASE&format=html HTH, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 14:27:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C515716A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fairwinds@eastlink.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874E443D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:27:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fairwinds@eastlink.ca) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.15]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3F00IXIEQ5FOT1@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:25:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-178-218.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.1.200]) ([24.224.178.218]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:27:09 -0300 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:26:57 -0300 From: David Pratt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <44D207B1.9060209@eastlink.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) Subject: gcc41-withgcjawt port and X11? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:27:51 -0000 Hi, I am in the process of installing gcc41-withgcjawt simple to install pyLucene. It seems that X11 is installing as part of this which is extremely heavy, unnecessary and unusual. How is this getting into the mix? Regards, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 14:35:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA30416A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F1243D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:35:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k73EZggd009093; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:35:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:35:42 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20060803143542.GA42319@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Fastest disk in the west or bad iozone numbers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:35:48 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 03), Nikolas Britton said: > Anyone have a clue why iozone reports disk read rates of 688 > MegaBytes/s on a 1GB test file? Am I doing something stupid, like not > converting the numbers correctly? You want to test using a file at least twice as big as your RAM, otherwise you're just testing your cache. You can see an example of this on the first graph at http://www.iozone.org . Only the far right edge shows the disks speed. web.archive.org shows that same image existed back in 2000 with a modtime of 1999, so it's possible the machine being tested had under 256MB of RAM. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 15:04:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395FB16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [213.238.47.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6643D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: (from stb@koef.zs64.net) (authenticated) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k73F44UP060392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:04:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <982485817.20060802161818@vts.dmls.com.ua> References: <982485817.20060802161818@vts.dmls.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Message-Id: <61725DAB-2F8F-4ABD-B12D-C707780A157C@lassitu.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Stefan Bethke Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:04:41 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?B?0JvRg9C60YzRj9C90LXQvdC60L4g0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGA?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Gateways. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:04:18 -0000 Am 02.08.2006 um 15:18 schrieb =D0=9B=D1=83=D0=BA=D1=8C=D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D0=BA=D0=BE =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80: > Hi, all! > > Problem: PC with FreeBSD, there are 2 gateway GW1 and GW2, GW1 is > default. > Need: Queries that come from GW2 goes through GW2, not through > default. > How can I do it? Look at ipfw forward rules, or pf rdr rules. Stefan --=20 Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 15:36:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CEC16A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6739043D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.6/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k73FZ7jt014135; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060803103118.02690e30@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:35:00 -0500 To: dick hoogendijk , freebsd-questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:09 -0000 You need to compare more than just the resolution. Differences in LCD's are digital vs analog, some do both. Digital is preferred if your video will support it. The contrast ratio: 300:1, 500:1, 600:1, 1000:1, etc. More is better in contrast. Last is the update speed in ms. You want faster update speeds when given a choice. The update speed effects how crisp the image is when changing, say viewing a video of gaming, but even in regular refreshing of the screen. -Derek At 04:58 PM 8/2/2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: >Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) >The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" >What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. >Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp) >19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) >Thanks for any advice. > >-- >dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE >++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 15:56:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F401A16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.225.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2B543D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:56:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from freebsd (c7144428.state.nj.us[199.20.68.40]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060803155656b1100n88dfe>; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:56:56 +0000 From: Bob To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:57:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1154620649.7963.19.camel@freebsd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NDISulate, Win32 driver & centrino exploits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bob.middaugh@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:56:58 -0000 Hi everyone, I was reading this: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1535&rss and http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-023068.htm My question is how is a FreeBSD box with NDISulator, or a linux box with ndiswrapper, affected by these exploits? I'm guessing that since linux and FreeBSD don't execute pe files, and their api's are probably similar that I can *lump* them together in my question. If that's not the case, I apologize...and in turn don't really care about the linux side of my question. I don't write code, so I don't know how all that works. I have FreeBSD on my Dell D600. I would use ndisulator, and the windows driver because there's no support for the 2200BG under FreeBSD. Or is there, and I'm missing something??? Apparently, from at least the 1st of the three exploits noted on the intel site above, the vulnerability exists in the windows driver. A cracker could exploit the vulnerabilities which could "potentially lead to remote code execution and system control." Appreciate any insight anyone has on this. Thanks, Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 15:59:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062FA16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5C543D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:59:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 7503 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2006 15:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 15:56:17 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id C9FEC28422; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:59:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:59:16 -0500 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20060803155916.GB30579@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <02EF211E-AAC4-4319-80A8-C01836986D05@HiWAAY.net> <20060803075622.GD48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060803075622.GD48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:59:20 -0000 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 05:26:22PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 at 21:00:43 -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >> Me? I'd go for two monster 22 inch CRTs, or three 19 inch CRTs. > > > > So lacking in imagination we are. Don't settle for anything less than > > 30" > > http://www.apple.com/displays/ > > The real question is resolution, not size. Even the 30" display has a > resolution of only 2560x1600. A reasonable 19" CRT will do 1600x1200, > or nearly 50% of that resolution. If you compare the prices ($2499 > for the Apple display, about $130 for the 19" monitor), and recall > that the original poster didn't want to spend much money, this really > isn't an option. Sorry my attempt at humor wasn't more obvious. One big difference with an LCD display vs CRT is that one should purchase the LCD with the resolution one intends to run. Most can autosync and fake other resolutions but the LCD is a fixed matrix so nothing but its native resolution will look right. If display drivers properly understand DPI then in theory they can compensate but most often graphics are hardcoded X/Y and display a fixed pixel size no matter the DPI. A laptop with high numerical LCD resolution isn't necessarily more desirable than one with same size display but lower resolution. When shopping for 17" and 19" LCDs I have noticed most have the same numerical resolution. Think my home 19" is a Dell FP1905 at 1280x1024. Now discontinued in favor of the FP1907 which many do not like as well as the '05. My biggest complaint is that its dimmest setting is maybe a touch brighter than my preference. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 15:01:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B256F16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igortr@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s37.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2353A43D46 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igortr@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.51.13]) by bay0-omc3-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:01:17 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:01:17 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.51.220 by by107fd.bay107.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:01:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.208.159.20] X-Originating-Email: [igortr@hotmail.com] X-Sender: igortr@hotmail.com From: "Igor Treyger" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:01:16 -0400 X-Priority: 1 Importance: High Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2006 15:01:17.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC27DFB0:01C6B70D] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:59:36 +0000 Cc: Subject: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:01:19 -0000 Hi, I have burned 3 iso images on CDs: FreeBSB 6.1 disk1 FreeBSB 6.1 disk2 FreeBSB 6.1 Boot All of them i386 I have Compaq workstation that is currently running Windows2000 Problem: Desktop would not boot with FreeBSB 6.1Boot. I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 - same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first I am trying to get familiar with UNIX OS Thanks Igor Treyger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:06:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E015B16A4E1 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1886343D64 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:06:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 74431 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 16:06:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F7DE4 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:06:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9RKepTRjeRwf for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:06:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE9655 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:06:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44D21F00.3020206@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:06:24 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:06:36 -0000 Igor Treyger wrote: > Hi, > I have burned 3 iso images on CDs: > FreeBSB 6.1 disk1 > FreeBSB 6.1 disk2 > FreeBSB 6.1 Boot > All of them i386 > I have Compaq workstation that is currently running Windows2000 > Problem: > Desktop would not boot with FreeBSB 6.1Boot. I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 - > same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! > The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first > I am trying to get familiar with UNIX OS > Thanks > Igor Treyger > what did you use to burn the ISO files to your CDs? You can try using deepburner to burn the ISOs. its small and free You will only need to get disk1 working for the base install. disk2 has most of the ports collection on it and some other stuff as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:15:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689CA16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B443D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:15:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:15:55 -0400 id 00056416.44D2213B.00008912 Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 12:12:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:15:56 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Igor Treyger" Message-Id: <20060803121556.1adb7af5.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:15:57 -0000 In response to "Igor Treyger" : > Hi, > I have burned 3 iso images on CDs: > FreeBSB 6.1 disk1 > FreeBSB 6.1 disk2 > FreeBSB 6.1 Boot > All of them i386 > I have Compaq workstation that is currently running Windows2000 > Problem: > Desktop would not boot with FreeBSB 6.1Boot. I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 - > same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! > The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first Statistically, the most common reason for this problem is that the CD was burned incorrectly. Many people accidentally (or without understanding) will burn the .iso file to the CD as a file and not as an _image_. If you throw the CD into your Windows machine and it shows that there is one big file on it, you've made this mistake. If that's the case, you'll need to recreate the CD using the "create CD from image" feature of your burning software. How to do this is different for each software. If it turns out that this is your problem and you can't figure out how to burn the CD correctly, feel free to ask on the list -- I'm sure someone else has used your software and can give you clear instructions. If that isn't your problem, post back and we'll try to find another possible solution. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:17:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6368F16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2325B43D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k73GHE16095917; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:17:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <44D2218A.9060705@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:17:14 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Igor Treyger References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:17:18 -0000 Igor Treyger wrote: > Hi, > I have burned 3 iso images on CDs: > FreeBSB 6.1 disk1 > FreeBSB 6.1 disk2 > FreeBSB 6.1 Boot > All of them i386 > I have Compaq workstation that is currently running Windows2000 > Problem: > Desktop would not boot with FreeBSB 6.1Boot. I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 - > same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! > The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first > I am trying to get familiar with UNIX OS > Thanks > Igor Treyger The Boot disc is mainly for testing and repairs. You will want to boot with disc 1 to actually install FreeBSD. But they don't boot for you... Did you "Create CD from ISO image" or "Burn from image" as some CD writing software calls it? A .iso file represents an entire CD file system, so if you simply copied the .iso files to the CDs like you would any other files, then that is what is wrong. Search for "ISO" in the Help for your CD burning software. If you correctly created CDs from the ISO images by burning their images rather than copying files, but you still cannot boot, test booting with other bootable CDs like the Windows disc that came with your PC. Make sure that your PC really can boot from CD. If your PC can boot from CD, but not from correctly burned FreeBSD CDs, write to this email list a description of exactly what does happen when you try. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:28:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0F516A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igortr@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2412E43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:28:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igortr@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.51.22]) by bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:28:43 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:28:42 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.51.220 by by107fd.bay107.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:28:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.208.159.20] X-Originating-Email: [igortr@hotmail.com] X-Sender: igortr@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <44D2218A.9060705@scls.lib.wi.us> From: "Igor Treyger" To: nalists@scls.lib.wi.us Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:28:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2006 16:28:42.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[E27DD2C0:01C6B719] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:28:43 -0000 Hi Greg, Thanks for responding back. I used "Burn CD" option on "Ner >From: Greg Barniskis >To: Igor Treyger >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Please Help >Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:17:14 -0500 > >Igor Treyger wrote: >>Hi, >>I have burned 3 iso images on CDs: >>FreeBSB 6.1 disk1 >>FreeBSB 6.1 disk2 >>FreeBSB 6.1 Boot >>All of them i386 >>I have Compaq workstation that is currently running Windows2000 >>Problem: >>Desktop would not boot with FreeBSB 6.1Boot. I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 - >>same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! >>The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first >>I am trying to get familiar with UNIX OS >>Thanks >>Igor Treyger > >The Boot disc is mainly for testing and repairs. You will want to boot with >disc 1 to actually install FreeBSD. But they don't boot for you... > >Did you "Create CD from ISO image" or "Burn from image" as some CD writing >software calls it? A .iso file represents an entire CD file system, so if >you simply copied the .iso files to the CDs like you would any other files, >then that is what is wrong. Search for "ISO" in the Help for your CD >burning software. > >If you correctly created CDs from the ISO images by burning their images >rather than copying files, but you still cannot boot, test booting with >other bootable CDs like the Windows disc that came with your PC. Make sure >that your PC really can boot from CD. > >If your PC can boot from CD, but not from correctly burned FreeBSD CDs, >write to this email list a description of exactly what does happen when you >try. > > >-- >Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator >South Central Library System (SCLS) >Library Interchange Network (LINK) >, (608) 266-6348 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:39:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E33416A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from mxo1.broadbandsupport.net (mxo1.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D600A43D55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:39:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from atmail2.ibbsonline.com (atmail2.ibbsonline.com [209.55.3.51]) by mxo1.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEE5314294; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=atmail2.ibbsonline.com) by atmail2.ibbsonline.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G8gDs-00059d-RL; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:39:00 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Clark To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gerard Seibert Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:39:00 -0400 X-Uidl: 1154552588.H320668P12766.atmail7.ibbsonline.comS=5384 X-Mailer: AtMail 4.11 Message-Id: <20060803163901.0BEE5314294@mxo1.broadbandsupport.net> X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-From: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net X-Spam-Status: No MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ron.Clark@eaglegl.com Subject: Re: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:39:18 -0000 OK, I rebuilt the box again and cvsuped my ports and got the machi= ne back to 5.5 STABLE. When I tried to install mysql server 5.1, I get the = following: =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql =3D=3D=3D> Ins= talling ldconfig configuration file cannot create /usr/local/libdata/l= dconfig/mysql: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 S= top in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-server. Is there any reason wh= y the install cannot create this directory? I am installing this as root. <= /p> This is a clean system, freshly installed. The only other packages / = ports installed are the cvsup-without-gui and bash2. Please help. I = do not want to run this on Linux! Ron On Wed Aug 2 18:02 , Gerard Seibert sent: Ron Clark w= rote: =0D =0D > Good day all, =0D > =0D > I am building a new server and need Mysql. I have tried to install= =0D > 4.1 server and 5.0 server. Both error out during the build. I try t= o =0D > restart the install and it installs, but then will not start becaus= e =0D > /var/log/mysql directory does not exist. I create the directory and= =0D > try to restart, to no avail. =0D > =0D > Is there a version of Mysql that can be installed with out errors?= =0D > Are there steps that am missing to make this run? I have installed= =0D > Mysql from ports before with no errors, so this is new. =0D > =0D > Thanks in advance, =0D =0D I have MySQL-5 installed. It worked without incident. Might I suggest = =0D the following. =0D =0D If you have portsclean installed, part of the portupgrade package, =0D please read the manual for it and run it. =0D =0D "portsclean -CLP" should do the trick. Then update your ports tre= e. I =0D would recommend 'portsnap' but that decision is up to you. =0D =0D Then navigate to databases/mysql51-server =0D =0D I would recommend that you delete that directory you created manually. =0D It probably has the wrong permissions, etc. and will cause a build =0D problem. =0D =0D Do the regular "make install && make clean" and you shoul= d be good to go. =0D =0D Place: mysql_enable=3D"YES" in the /etc/rc.conf file and then eit= her =0D reboot or run the rc.d file: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start and =0D it will create the directories it requires. You still have to create a =0D use though. =0D =0D Ciao! =0D =0D -- =0D Gerard =0D _______________________________________________ =0D [1]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list =0D [2]Ma= ilScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from ".." claiming to be http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions =0D To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[3]freebsd-questions-= unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =0D =0D = References 1. 3D"javascript:top.opencompose('freebsd-questions@freebsd.org','',''= 2. file://localhost/tmp/3D"../parse.pl?redirect=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Flists.free= 3. 3D"javascript:top.opencompos= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:41:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4716116A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fairwinds@eastlink.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4915B43D62 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:41:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fairwinds@eastlink.ca) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3F00GAUL28XGC0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:42:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-178-218.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.1.200]) ([24.224.178.218]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:41:28 -0300 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:41:21 -0300 From: David Pratt In-reply-to: <5DC17E6B6DEA534299114977DBDD0D21205B3BAA@crp809.wfm.wegmans.com> To: William Woodhams Message-id: <44D22731.3060601@eastlink.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <5DC17E6B6DEA534299114977DBDD0D21205B3BAA@crp809.wfm.wegmans.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc41-withgcjawt port and X11? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:41:40 -0000 Hi. To get what I am after, I have modified the gcc41 Makefile commenting out WITHOUT_JAVA = yes to bypass all of the xterm, x blah blah and related graphics packages gcc41-withgcjawt wants to throw in. All I am after is a compiler with gcj support. Regards, David William Woodhams wrote: > I would think it would be the pyLucene but that is very interesting. > > Bill Woodhams > Systems Technician > Development Group-Technical Systems > Wegmans Food Markets > Direct:(585) 429-3183 > William.Woodhams@wegmans.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:27 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: gcc41-withgcjawt port and X11? > > Hi, I am in the process of installing gcc41-withgcjawt simple to install > > pyLucene. It seems that X11 is installing as part of this which is > extremely heavy, unnecessary and unusual. How is this getting into the > mix? > > Regards, > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:47:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B300916A4E2 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from heathrow.savoladns.com (heathrow.savoladns.com [212.12.174.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AAEE43D60 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:47:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from ocs.savola.com (ocs.savola.com [222.22.1.211]) by heathrow.savoladns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5859585E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:47:20 +0300 (AST) Received: from 222.22.1.105 by ocs.savola.com with ESMTP id 70563201154622898; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:34:58 +0300 Message-ID: <44D22877.6040805@savola.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:46:47 +0300 From: Yousef Raffah Organization: The Savola Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=E214EAA5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB9E70356C74B0B73FDA59C77" Subject: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yraffah@savola.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:47:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB9E70356C74B0B73FDA59C77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like to watch movies and clips alot, so a 15.4" is not really and impressive or a great option, therefore, I wanted to be able to plug my laptop to the Samsung TV at home through an S-Video cable in order to watch the movies. However, I was not able to properly configure xorg.conf and I googled for S-Video and xorg but most of the results I found were Linux related (although I doubt it would make a big difference) but none worked with me. My xorg.conf is appended. If I connect my laptop to the TV while my X is running and fn+F5 my TV screen tries to display X but the screen keeps on flickering. I tried shutting down X, connecting and fn+F5 it works fine but after I start X again, it keeps on flickering :( Any help would be really appreciated :) Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "TV" RightOf "Card0" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts_mono" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/AAHS" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/AGA" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/FS" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/Kasr" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/MCS" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kacst_fonts" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ae_fonts1/Shmookh" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/" FontPath "/home/yraffah/fonts" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts/cmpsfont/type1" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc101" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ar" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "CPT" ModelName "138a" # Modeline "1280x800" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "TV" HorizSync 30-50 VertRefresh 60 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "MergedFB" # [] #Option "CRT2HSync" # [] #Option "CRT2VRefresh" # [] #Option "CRT2Position" # [] #Option "MetaModes" # [] #Option "MergedDPI" # [] #Option "NoMergedXinerama" # [] #Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" # [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Unknown Board" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "DPMS" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "TV" Driver "ati" Option "MonitorLayout" "TV,LFP" Option "TVStandard" "PAL" Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "TV" Device "TV" Monitor "TV" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection --=20 Sincerely, Yousef Adnan Raffah The Savola Group ------------------- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com --------------enigB9E70356C74B0B73FDA59C77 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0ih+qG4sHeIU6qURAoNKAJwOvfrSCTFZ7o1/3xGd1VSCNP/mogCfRFo4 bYEHgjcNoJ1HJVvLgBzBMRU= =ZcuM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB9E70356C74B0B73FDA59C77-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 16:50:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFFB16A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rj45@slacknet.com) Received: from slacknet.com (slacknet.com [166.70.153.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DBA43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:50:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rj45@slacknet.com) Received: from rj45 (helo=localhost) by slacknet.com with local-esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1G8gP1-0001Us-Tq for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:50:31 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:50:31 -0600 (MDT) From: RJ45 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rj45@slacknet.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on slacknet.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: perl problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:32 -0000 Hello using imapsync to make a transition from imapuw to a cyrus server make the imapsync perl process to die on FreeBSD 6.1 because it uses more than 512MB of memory. this does not happen using imapsync with the same transfer operations on hte same mailboxes on a Linux fedora box the memory used also is less than 512MB. recompiling ther kernel of FreeBSD rising the memory to 1GB does not fix this at all. Seems like the perl process on FreeBSD explodes in memory. How can I do to fix this issue, any hints ? thanks a lot Rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 17:24:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FC016A4EA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC82243D5E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:24:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 27so1984698hub for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:24:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=KF5Ky7pSFp4mnDAFhmWdaJlwyNwkSkkpREA7ml9KdKyKHDnDFGtBeDO0kT/LYFNpS/AmlMAcipGfVs9NHzd/XlS87NuiCGIjshj3Wj6gLfdLW8YupFv2ZIETlNAB/22wq3WPNgDdfhI2ABct5uh8WgcVXTqPyPjzmZb/0Gi1sQc= Received: by 10.48.162.15 with SMTP id k15mr4142645nfe; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l22sm1311153nfc.2006.08.03.10.17.34; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Mihai Velicu" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:17:19 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060803052115.77BDUNJX0L@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> <44k65qj58i.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44k65qj58i.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8857169.M1ozmukFsc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608032017.29653.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: user limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:24:23 -0000 --nextPart8857169.M1ozmukFsc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 03 August 2006 16:53, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Mihai Velicu" writes: > > Can someone tell me where I can find some resources for limiting user > > account. As example to not execute some programs to not see the content > > of some folders and so on. > > The traditional Unix approach is with file permissions: see the > FreeBSD Handbook section on "Permissions" and the chmod(1) manual page > (which you can access by typing "man 1 chmod"). > > For more complicated permission schemes, you way want to use ACLs. > See the Handbook section on "File System Access Control Lists". And for addition: if You want for limit system resources for user processes= -=20 look at the login.conf(5) manpage for details. =2D-=20 Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- --nextPart8857169.M1ozmukFsc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0i+phLjVFCVp0wsRAp8QAKDPmJrQDlx6Z8d3Q8+2WyEHNwPD8gCfdBEc 265iTehzN4x1VA38bB7ozc0= =h48E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8857169.M1ozmukFsc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 17:36:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA45316A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from zeus.dfwlp.com (zeus.dfwlp.com [208.11.134.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7400C43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:36:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from webmail.dfwlp.org (localhost.dfwlp.com [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.dfwlp.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73HackQ092259 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jhorne@dfwlp.org) Received: from 167.246.36.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhorne) by webmail.dfwlp.org with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <10834.167.246.36.14.1154626598.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jonathan Horne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on zeus.dfwlp.com Subject: trouble with cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:36:41 -0000 (resent, as i was in too much of a hurry this morning, and forgot to add a subject line) im having a problem with cvsup-ing my existing sources. if i update an existing set, i get this: -=(oooooooooooooooooo)=(cvsup18.us.freebsd.org)=- Parsing supfile "/root/stable-supfile" Connecting to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs Server warning: RCS file error in "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/sys/modules/i2c/controllers/nfsmb/Makefile,v": 1: "head" expected Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully [root@zeus ~]# i use the stable-supfile, but with one changed line, to get me to RELENG: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1 command i use to cvsup is as such: cvsup -L 2 -h `(fastest_cvsup -q -c us )` /root/stable-supfile and my system is: FreeBSD zeus.dfwlp.com 6.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Jun 29 00:56:08 CDT 2006 root@zeus.int.dfwlp.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ZEUS i386 last night i wanted to recompile the kernel, so that the next time i reboot ill have p3. when i cvsup'd my existing set, i got the above error. so i did a rm -rf /usr/src/*, cvsup'd again, and no issues. put a backup of my kernel conf file in there, and away i went. i kinda thought nothing of it until this morning, when just for kicks, i did another cvsup on the same box, and got the updating error again. none of my other boxes get an error like this, they all peform a normal cvs updating operation. any ideas? tia, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 17:36:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60CB16A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5F9243D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 24597 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 17:36:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 17:36:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9EAE4; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vKEv8Cj6dNp2; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D055; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44D2343A.1010302@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:58 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Igor Treyger References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nalists@scls.lib.wi.us, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:36:53 -0000 Igor Treyger wrote: > Hi Greg, > Thanks for responding back. > I used "Burn CD" option on "Ner > In Nero, under the File menu you should see an option to Burn Image use that and point to the ISOs when it asks you. Once that is done, it will work. it sounds like you made a regular data CD containing just the ISO image which wont work. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 17:39:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C016A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5305F43D46 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1G8hA8-0007Go-O2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:39:13 +0100 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with SMTP id k73HdCWl016598 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:39:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 96592 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Aug 2006 17:39:07 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:39:07 +0100 To: Dave Message-ID: <20060803173907.GB96560@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:39:14 -0000 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:08:03AM -0400, Dave wrote: > > Hello, > I'm getting an error from ruby whenever i run a portupgrade. Checking > portaudit i see this is a vulnerability. Is there a fiix for it? > Thanks. > Dave. > cvsup your ports tree and rebuild ruby18. Some patches for ruby18 went in recently which fixes matters. -- Frank echo "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 17:39:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1FC16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp103.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E47A043D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 40897 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 17:39:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gondolin.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@75.3.42.185 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 17:39:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0BBE4 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:39:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from gondolin.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ccRxm5zAASo for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by gondolin.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080E55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:39:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44D234CD.6090009@mikestammer.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:39:25 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Please Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:39:25 -0000 Igor Treyger wrote: > Hi Greg, > Thanks for responding back. > I used "Burn CD" option on "Ner > > actually it looks a little different now (at least in version 6). under the File menu, select Open... and then choose the FreeBSD disk 1 ISO file. From there it will bring up the dialog to burn the disk. This assumes you are using the regular program and not express version. In the express version, there is a link to burn a disk image. thats the one you want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:17:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D7016A4EF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18CAB43D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:15:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 98189 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 18:15:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hpFhHR/z/kMnJe523daXD9HU58NLIj5XVxzyHEA2H64SRagBBsfh/vGtJ4LgYE24iPjC3/R3YUbfoiG3uiWVO/S5prZ0xtZo+8scLIrATi20181ITe3zvg+3+vWKkenFyjgL73tfV80GJ7L2uSKdcCJ8hpTJCNxAUlnCLv1+lto= ; Message-ID: <20060803181502.98187.qmail@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.28] by web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:15:02 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "N. Harrington" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Problem using tcpdump with tcpshow (from ports) - get errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:17:32 -0000 Hello For some time now I have been watching tcp dumps by sending them through tcpshow -cooked. (from the ports tree) This has worked quite well on BSD 4.X and also I believe 5.2.1. However, now when I try to do this on a 5.5 or 6.1 server, I get an error. Can anyone help with why I might be getting these errors with later versions of FreeBSD? I have tried all I can think of. tcpdump -i bge1 -s 1518 -lenx | tcpshow tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 1518 bytes tcpdump: 1 packets captured 162 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel bad dump file format Or tcpdump -i bge1 -s 1518 -lenx | tcpshow -cooked tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 1518 bytes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Packet 1 ***Error: Badly formatted Ethernet address 1 packets captured 178 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel Thanks!! Nicole The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:26:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A42016A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DA143D55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so602672pyb for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:26:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AQbHOO16+dW4l+z5HuPp4Uz+G6HkxwkV6CZPTzI3E6eSgbOpEcq5AVmYXtbEKCx6VEejYUUa2oYvKpGDXJWe/Si2sNhp15ah91bP/g8Kk8nTpWc2peeT/xgCJp9VSrXiJROwCok9a/5nSUKzgGeu6/2y2UhVIsolFYv2PsRoSAk= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr911156hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:25:59 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Joshua Lewis" In-Reply-To: <20060803060504.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.e11fa7ef6b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060803060504.e72c8bd2fa3c8298c4bf39a8c4c61b77.e11fa7ef6b.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Cc: Andrew Gould , tech.junk@verizon.net, Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:26:05 -0000 All of the other Display SubSections are not required, I've never needed to swich my color depth or screen resolution on the fly so I stopped putting them in a while ago.... It's a left over from the 1980s and 90s when cards could have a high color depth or a high screen resolution but not both at the same time. On 8/3/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > That is what I have. I got it out of the handbook. however I may have > forgotten the quotes. I will try it tonight. > > Now there are several duplicates of that section. Should I updated each one > for each resolution and each color depth? Should there be only one? If I add > one for each resolution and color depth combo is there a way to switch the > resolution in the WM? > > Thanks for the input. > > > > > > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Replacing windows XP at home. > From: "Nikolas Britton" > Date: Wed, August 02, 2006 1:01 pm > To: "Joshua Lewis" > Cc: "Andrew Gould" , "Jerry McAllister" > , tech.junk@verizon.net, > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On 8/2/06, Joshua Lewis wrote: > > > > I am actually not looking for a Windows look alike. I am simply > > replacing my XP system with a BSD solution. I am looking for a fast > > easy to configure and fun WM. I am absolutely looking for something > > new to use. not Windows like. That is why I was looking at > > enlightenment and fluxbox. but there are just so many I was hoping to > > get ideas as to why one would choose one over the other. Other then > > > personal preference. I have been using enlightenment for about a week > > and perhaps it is something I did but my resolution is stuck at > > 1600x1280 at 65Hz. My monitor keeps getting mad at me and telling me > > that is not the recommended solution. I have been trying to figure out > > how to change it and I have updated the xorg.conf as the handbook says > > but it still defaults. Unless anyone has an idea why I am going to > > switch to fluxbox and see how that feels. > > > > > > > > I did want to mention that I do agree with your point. I am looking > > for something new and I am looking to experiment with other ways of > > doing things. But at the same time I would like a little eye candy. > > After all with today's power full systems there is nothing wrong with > > waisting a few CPU cycles to make the experience a little more > > enjoyable. > > > > > > > > I will certainly give XFCE a try I have seen allot of recommendations > > for that as well. > > Sincerely, > > Joshua Lewis > > > > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look sorta like this, yours should have more > Display SubSections in it: > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > > -- > BSD Podcasts @: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ > http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ > -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:32:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2591916A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAE143D58 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:32:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7349 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 18:32:19 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Aug 2006 18:32:19 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0068F2842A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) To: "Jonathan Horne" References: <10834.167.246.36.14.1154626598.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:32:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <10834.167.246.36.14.1154626598.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> (Jonathan Horne's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:38 -0500 (CDT)") Message-ID: <44bqr1r7pp.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble with cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:32:21 -0000 "Jonathan Horne" writes: > (resent, as i was in too much of a hurry this morning, and forgot to add a > subject line) > im having a problem with cvsup-ing my existing sources. if i update an > existing set, i get this: > > -=(oooooooooooooooooo)=(cvsup18.us.freebsd.org)=- > > Parsing supfile "/root/stable-supfile" > Connecting to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org > Connected to cvsup15.us.freebsd.org > Server software version: SNAP_16_1h > Negotiating file attribute support > Exchanging collection information > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection > Running > Updating collection src-all/cvs > Server warning: RCS file error in > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/sys/modules/i2c/controllers/nfsmb/Makefile,v": As far as I know, /usr/local/etc/cvsup is normally only used for cvsupd. Are you running that? The regular stable-supfile shouldn't touch that, ever. I suppose you could look at the cvs checkouts file (in /var/db/sup by default, I think) to see if that path shows up in there. > none of my other boxes get an error like this, they all peform a normal > cvs updating operation. > > any ideas? Apparently, something is corrupting your database. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:36:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC3916A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@hdk5.com) Received: from mail.alohahosting.net (oahu.alohahosting.net [64.75.245.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FBE43D5F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:36:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@hdk5.com) Received: from [192.168.1.35] by alohahosting.net (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000262077.msg for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:49:00 -1000 Message-ID: <44D241FE.8050007@hdk5.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:35:42 -1000 From: "admin@hdk5.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050108 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@hdk5.com X-Spam-Processed: mail.alohahosting.net, Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:49:00 -1000 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 66.180.149.18 X-Return-Path: admin@hdk5.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail.alohahosting.net, Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:49:02 -1000 Subject: Adding a FreeBSD Gateway on a DSL/ ATM circuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@hdk5.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:36:35 -0000 Aloha, My current problem is that I need to use a box as a FreeBSD 6.* gateway/firewall to the internet protecting an MS box that is in the office for doing a lot of photo work and uploading to servers for the company my wife works with. I was going to use a freesco (Linux)disk /firewall/gateway/router like I have on my single dsl 1.5/384 line. (This is currently what is protecting the MS box on this circuit.) However, the freesco setup does not work as a gateway on the leg of the ATM 5 IP circuit where we want to move the MS box to. I have tried to get it setup and have emailed the freesco lists and apparently no one has accomplished this. I have now built a FreeBSD box with 2 nics to use as a gateway/router/firewall between the single MS box and the internet. ed1 is on the 66.xxx.132.236 leg of the ATM. The defaultgateway on the internet side of the ATM is 66.xxx.132.233. The LAN side of the box ed0 is 192.168.1.1 to which the MS box is directed. ( I am using a test box 192.168.1.29 with FreeBSD 6* in place of the MS box at this point.) I can ping from the gateway box nic to the internet ok. I can ping from the Test box to the Lan side of the gateway box OK. I cant reach the internet thru the gateway. I have read probably 5 howtos from the FreeBSD hand book and elsewhere and none are exactly what I am doing. On FreeBSD Questions list recently there was a similar issue question posted but no body answered the post. It had to do with rc.conf Listing both Nics ifconfig_ed0 =66.xxx.132.236 netmask 255.255.255.248 #inet side ifconfig -ed1=192.168.1.1 netmask 255. 255.255.0 # lan side and gateway_enable="YES" which I have done. At this point I have not attempted a firewall PF or IPFW since I cant reach the internet thru the gateway and I want to understand what is not right with this setup first. If I use: route add -net 192.168.1 .29 192.168.1.1 I can no longer ping the Lan side of the gateway from the test box. Can you direct me to or give me a howto on setting this up so I can reach the internet if indeed its possible using a gateway/firewall on the leg of an ATM circuit? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Admin -- http://hawaiidakine.com -- http://hdk5.com -- -- http://internetohana.org -- http://freeBSDinfo.org -- + Supporting open source computing - FreeBSD 6.* + From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:45:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D1716A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0102.google.com (hu-out-0102.google.com [72.14.214.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2593543D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:45:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoenix.lists@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 27so2002709hub for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:45:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=E4UfRiPKlfvfJB2cGTFhb6TzyUJrpD6GZGWTkR2lmZKGxx73/TnrNg0PVzmBkPky3cUNESagOj6uB3JPX57VGVbCFhAeKfUpNU05Ym/vHhbLkrcgJhYb3fYeoZTV5fefrrjOTo32yxcQulyXVCcBphoINeMzydY7Q55N4XUI4mg= Received: by 10.48.48.15 with SMTP id v15mr2995112nfv; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sp0-host.localdomain ( [85.202.171.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43sm1418736nfa.2006.08.03.11.38.42; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Phoenix Organization: Phoenix Lab. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, yraffah@savola.com Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:38:29 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44D22877.6040805@savola.com> In-Reply-To: <44D22877.6040805@savola.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1475778.6n23Lcru30"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608032138.38627.phoenix.lists@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:45:25 -0000 --nextPart1475778.6n23Lcru30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 03 August 2006 19:46, Yousef Raffah wrote: > I like to watch movies and clips alot, so a 15.4" is not really and > impressive or a great option, therefore, I wanted to be able to plug my > laptop to the Samsung TV at home through an S-Video cable in order to > watch the movies. > > However, I was not able to properly configure xorg.conf and I googled > for S-Video and xorg but most of the results I found were Linux related > (although I doubt it would make a big difference) but none worked with > me. My xorg.conf is appended. > > If I connect my laptop to the TV while my X is running and fn+F5 my TV > screen tries to display X but the screen keeps on flickering. I tried > shutting down X, connecting and fn+F5 it works fine but after I start X > again, it keeps on flickering :( Take a look at the http://gatos.sf.net Maybe this solve Your problem. =2D-=20 Best regards, Simon Phoenix (Phoenix Lab.) =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- KeyID: 0x2569D30B =46ingerprint: 78FC 5C40 07CC D331 148E CC79 84B8 D514 2569 D30B =2D-------------------------------------------------------------- --nextPart1475778.6n23Lcru30 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE0kKuhLjVFCVp0wsRAk4WAKDKViEhS4VmLCls3ELoBc1I35c1vgCggQvU /uql9VEPmX60vmde2pEcj/4= =/SSc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1475778.6n23Lcru30-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 18:58:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9246516A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3B443D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:58:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D793291B0C; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:57:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58968-03; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:57:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AAF291B0A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:57:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 1F8ED5C8F6; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1823C5C7A0; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:58:00 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> Message-ID: <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:58:05 -0000 On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > Agreed... > > I could probably add around 1,500 systems that could conceivably be setup to > chime in with their numbers periodically; one of the pre-requisites for that > would be that the access method be HTTP or HTTPS based so it could be relayed > via a proxy... > > Another nice thing to include might be a hash of hardware inventory (a > further opt-in thing beyond the basic checkins)... Mark alluded to this early > in the piece, but it would be nice to be able to pull up something that said > "hang on, out of the X% of users on file, Y% are using Adaptec SCSI cards, in > particular model XYZ"... this would be very helpful when trying to get vendor > support etc... > > Some form of hash calculated on these would allow you to detect if they had > changed at all, and only re-send them in the event of a change... > > ... just thinking out loud ... ! 'k, so, how do we script this then? Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this on my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on older versions: # pciconf -l chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x700d1022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 isab0@pci0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x74401022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:7:1: class=0x01018a card=0x74411022 chip=0x74411022 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 chip1@pci0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x74431022 chip=0x74431022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 none1@pci0:11:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10018086 chip=0x100f8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 pcib2@pci0:16:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x74481022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01 none2@pci2:0:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x74491022 chip=0x74491022 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 none3@pci2:7:0: class=0x030000 card=0x80081002 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 fxp0@pci2:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10408086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 And, more specifically, we can get: # pciconf -l -v asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology (DPT))' device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID So, with that one command, we can get a fair amount of hardware information ... but, how to feed that into a proper HTTP request? Storing all of that information would be cool, cause then we could build reports based on device driver / vendor / device / class and subclass ... but that might be a bit heavy to do in an HTTP request, no? I take it email isn't an option, in your case? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:11:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254C316A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from heathrow.savoladns.com (heathrow.savoladns.com [212.12.174.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1478343D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yraffah@savola.com) Received: from ocs.savola.com (ocs.savola.com [222.22.1.211]) by heathrow.savoladns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11B595842; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:11:21 +0300 (AST) Received: from 222.22.1.105 by ocs.savola.com with ESMTP id 70571071154631564; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:59:24 +0300 Message-ID: <44D24A58.1090109@savola.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:11:20 +0300 From: Yousef Raffah Organization: The Savola Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter A. Giessel" References: <44D22877.6040805@savola.com> <44D22A73.2060700@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <44D22A73.2060700@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=E214EAA5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4238A993D02C1893CF29F98A" Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yraffah@savola.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:11:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4238A993D02C1893CF29F98A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter A. Giessel wrote: > On 2006/08/03 8:46, Yousef Raffah seems to have typed: > > [snip] > > =20 >> Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "TV" >> HorizSync 30-50 >> VertRefresh 60 >> EndSection >> =20 > > [snip] > > =20 >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "TV" >> Driver "ati" >> Option "MonitorLayout" "TV,LFP" >> Option "TVStandard" "PAL" >> Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" >> Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" >> Screen 1 >> EndSection >> =20 > > [snip] > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure PAL is 25 fields/sec, > which corresponds to 50Hz not 60Hz. > =20 I really have no idea, what are you suggesting then? --=20 Sincerely, Yousef Adnan Raffah The Savola Group ------------------- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com --------------enig4238A993D02C1893CF29F98A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0kpYqG4sHeIU6qURAmvgAJ9X2ZKT07jY4WisVkxQEw/fDJqQhgCgnfXu IOP9Q/XKCSKLkddvYhB8Fs4= =NGJV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4238A993D02C1893CF29F98A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:13:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35A016A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E5243D7E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:13:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 32524 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2006 19:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 19:10:12 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 3E8FD28422; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:13:45 -0500 From: David Kelly To: "admin@hdk5.com" Message-ID: <20060803191345.GA31429@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <44D241FE.8050007@hdk5.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44D241FE.8050007@hdk5.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a FreeBSD Gateway on a DSL/ ATM circuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:13:50 -0000 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:35:42AM -1000, admin@hdk5.com wrote: > > I can ping from the gateway box nic to the internet ok. I can ping from > the Test box to the Lan side of the gateway box OK. I cant reach the > internet thru the gateway. I have read probably 5 howtos from the > FreeBSD hand book and elsewhere and none are exactly what I am doing. A properly designed DSL/ATM modem or router is not going to allow private IP addresses onto the public internet. So you can not get thru the FreeBSD gateway without NAT to map 192.168/16 to the gateway external IP address. At the very least you need to enable gateway and NAT. One way to do NAT is with IPFW. in /etc/rc.conf I have: firewall_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable firewall functionality firewall_type="client" # really ought to remove this from custom script firewall_script="/etc/dmk.firewall" # my custom script natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == YES). natd_interface="fxp1" # the external interface to place nat'ed packets natd__flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" # some natd config gateway_enable="YES" # both natd and gateway needed /etc/natd.conf looks like this: interface fxp1 log_denied log_facility security use_sockets same_ports dynamic log_ipfw_denied punch_fw 4900:99 punch_fw defines where dynamic rules are inserted in my ipfw ruleset to support ftp. /etc/dmk.firewall is only a modified version of the stock rc.firewall. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:29:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633C716A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81614.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81614.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B91F43D7F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:29:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8866 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 19:29:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0NqHjfxZfLTiBpUQC9Ou5Q+kRfUQaOwlsorsMjiSfkZiwVHL9ahG5SQbFfBtJHbKw+ZenN3VmsccZgbsx2gthAnx+IFfXd22zux1/0Iby9i0w4/LKI3XU9tTj6WU5w6oXCh5QLKPVgxIKJ03MNLoSHKnfstARatjWqMmCPWqo34= ; Message-ID: <20060803192941.8864.qmail@web81614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web81614.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:29:41 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) From: To: yraffah@savola.com, "Peter A. Giessel" In-Reply-To: <44D24A58.1090109@savola.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:29:43 -0000 --- Yousef Raffah wrote: > Peter A. Giessel wrote: > > On 2006/08/03 8:46, Yousef Raffah seems to have > typed: > > > > [snip] > > > > > >> Section "Monitor" > >> Identifier "TV" > >> HorizSync 30-50 > >> VertRefresh 60 > >> EndSection > >> > > > > [snip] > > > > > >> Section "Device" > >> Identifier "TV" > >> Driver "ati" > >> Option "MonitorLayout" "TV,LFP" > >> Option "TVStandard" "PAL" > >> Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" > >> Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" > >> Screen 1 > >> EndSection > >> > > > > [snip] > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure PAL > is 25 fields/sec, > > which corresponds to 50Hz not 60Hz. > > > I really have no idea, what are you suggesting then? > > -- > > Sincerely, > > Yousef Adnan Raffah > The Savola Group > > ------------------- > Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at > http://www.getfirefox.com > > > As much of a pain as it might sound you should probably google PAL specs for TV output, get a copy of "The Complete FreeBSD" either on the website or the printed copy in a store, thumb to the X org (free) section and form a proper Modeline statement for the screen by following their instructions and using PAL's spec. Either that or keep googling X org and PAL TV's. I think it is something with the refresh rates though. Also the H-sync should prolly be 50 hertz locked as this seems to be PAL's standard refresh rate. X might be defaulting to the low end which is causing the flicker. It might help to define the resolution you want the screen to have as well. PAL supports a few different ones at different levels of fidelity. Again X might go to the low end of things to be safe which is just causing the interlacing to occur too slowly and flicker on you. good luck -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:35:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281B416A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8229443D5A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:35:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12124 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 19:35:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=22DLTc9rSeOqTSFVbM/Bu/4L8C0WhjaB9DLfMe4ivxDdkrg/t3Mhdl/rs2HtiULuNfVYBzN0YqodJfpyDK1ZoWNgEfB8fUnSl0etfT5yP5mH52QVoPdPWfoF4PKAKPs7ExfI4fXABqf2Tgy6lHInVB+z0c4MICPJJrBvGY5vFig= ; Message-ID: <20060803193502.12118.qmail@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:35:02 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: To: User Freebsd , Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:35:05 -0000 --- User Freebsd wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > > > Agreed... > > > > I could probably add around 1,500 systems that > could conceivably be setup to > > chime in with their numbers periodically; one of > the pre-requisites for that > > would be that the access method be HTTP or HTTPS > based so it could be relayed > > via a proxy... > > > > Another nice thing to include might be a hash of > hardware inventory (a > > further opt-in thing beyond the basic checkins)... > Mark alluded to this early > > in the piece, but it would be nice to be able to > pull up something that said > > "hang on, out of the X% of users on file, Y% are > using Adaptec SCSI cards, in > > particular model XYZ"... this would be very > helpful when trying to get vendor > > support etc... > > > > Some form of hash calculated on these would allow > you to detect if they had > > changed at all, and only re-send them in the event > of a change... > > > > ... just thinking out loud ... ! > > 'k, so, how do we script this then? > > Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, > and I've tried this on > my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that > will be a problem on > older versions: > > # pciconf -l > chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 > chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 > pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 > chip=0x700d1022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 > isab0@pci0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 > chip=0x74401022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 > none0@pci0:7:1: class=0x01018a card=0x74411022 > chip=0x74411022 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 > chip1@pci0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x74431022 > chip=0x74431022 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 > chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > none1@pci0:11:0: class=0x020000 > card=0x10018086 chip=0x100f8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > pcib2@pci0:16:0: class=0x060400 > card=0x00000000 chip=0x74481022 rev=0x05 hdr=0x01 > none2@pci2:0:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x74491022 > chip=0x74491022 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 > none3@pci2:7:0: class=0x030000 card=0x80081002 > chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 > fxp0@pci2:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10408086 > chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > > And, more specifically, we can get: > > # pciconf -l -v > asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 > chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed > Processing Technology (DPT))' > device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID > > So, with that one command, we can get a fair amount > of hardware > information ... but, how to feed that into a proper > HTTP request? > Storing all of that information would be cool, cause > then we could build > reports based on device driver / vendor / device / > class and subclass ... > but that might be a bit heavy to do in an HTTP > request, no? I take it > email isn't an option, in your case? > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking > Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org > MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org > ICQ . 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > maybe it's just because I've been reading up on it but what about outputting the information in XML??? Then you could tag the Vendor, Name, basic info, number of users, etc. in a tagged form that could be then stored in a Dbase of some kind by vendor, working in FreeBSD X.Y, broken, etc. The XML should be easily outputted on the fly to XHTML so it can be reviewed by devolopers and what not. Just my too cents... definately thinking out loud -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:36:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89C516A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FAD43D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so103977wra for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D0h24jHreWVTF+CaBzW8slc5D5V10xsBJfmF0UTLWKKiJddbxgeNTUWceIgvgx7NdDCGDc0KyRxbzr/cLErUpvEyecYC/TpV8Vnx9Xlezr6cy9qyMmvPgKGu6+3gOOa6jjSmGgKV3sb8mgAd4aAhZD1b2U2CTrBiyUh/WcQ0mV0= Received: by 10.78.165.13 with SMTP id n13mr1003768hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.166.18 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:36:09 +0200 From: usleepless@gmail.com To: "Richard Morse" In-Reply-To: <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:36:13 -0000 Dear Ricky, On 8/2/06, Richard Morse wrote: > No, they were all normal (the latter two were 0, the first was about > 110). FWIW, the query usually proceeds normally; it's only when it > doesn't that things go bad. > > I'm wondering if this is a problem with threads -- I've been doing > research, and a number of places say that there are threading issues > on FreeBSD 5 with MySQL thread when using the standard threading > library. I'm going to recompile MySQL with the linuxpthreads option, > and see if that stops this... i understand if this is of no use to you, but: switch to PostgreSQL as soon as you can. MySQL has given me nothing but trouble, especially on FBSD ( threads ). PGSQL is more complete, and faster on harder queries. regards, usleep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:37:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA4216A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (phsmgmx1.partners.org [155.52.251.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4C043D7D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:37:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 55983274290; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx1.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDA42742A0; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k73Jd0s7070446; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:39:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4025A4EB-606F-4019-90F9-CE1A6F5D87D7@partners.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:37:31 -0400 To: usleepless@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:37:43 -0000 On Aug 3, 2006, at 3:36 PM, usleepless@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Ricky, > > i understand if this is of no use to you, but: switch to PostgreSQL as > soon as you can. MySQL has given me nothing but trouble, especially on > FBSD ( threads ). > > PGSQL is more complete, and faster on harder queries. Hi! Thanks for the suggestion -- I already run a number of PostgreSQL databases. We're using MySQL for one particular application which, even though it has partial PostgreSQL compatibility, really needs MySQL. Ricky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:43:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5D216A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (phsmgmx1.partners.org [155.52.251.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11FA43D73 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) Received: from phsmgmx1.partners.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 80F992742A6; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx1.partners.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682C727429D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.156.105] (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k73JiZGB070470; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:44:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from remorse@partners.org) In-Reply-To: <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> References: <31F1465C-5B87-4B79-8D58-0A538BF30562@partners.org> <80f4f2b20608020636o3dd712c9vf1aad9b6f3ba6e6f@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20608020700l53410a09u6efb90aadb6294cb@mail.gmail.com> <1E8F77CE-AC74-4C24-89DC-89201CD4E113@partners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <607A6828-089C-4D21-B5F5-E88249F831D0@partners.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Richard Morse Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:43:07 -0400 To: Richard Morse X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with MySQL since upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:43:13 -0000 Hi! I finally figured out what was going on. Thanks for the people who gave suggestions. The query I thought was the problem really wasn't -- at some point between 5.0.13 and 5.0.22 a change was introduced which affected inner joins. I had a view which was aggresively created using inner joins (in order to take an EAV-like table and view it as though it were a regular table), and if I tried to do a three table inner join with a view involved, it sat there and entered some kind of loop. This either caused the tables to be locked, and later queries involving these tables were waiting for a freed lock, or eventually the number of open connections / threads climbed too high and all later connections were waiting. I was able to (for now) solve the problem by recreating the view as a realized table which gets rebuilt every hour. Thanks, Ricky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:46:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07C516A4E1 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4675A43D5F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:46:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 14270 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 19:46:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e5dv0oRbSOkVu9H7mbq8zw4ZcQM6sYow0sLd36XYWpmeuoC2Ez6BLYJ0A57UrisHFYFTb954eS2n5seyncJFM3B92Q3DniOfjFd4WikP1h4uOGzzd/Cxh4WjVhr0BBPJnWHTaiCKl3hzYcWgRJOJll8MAfCA+ObBm2GZagjG5JA= ; Message-ID: <20060803194636.14268.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:46:36 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: To: "Peter A. Giessel" In-Reply-To: <44D24FF9.5070502@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I have dual displays (Laptop screen and TV)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:46:44 -0000 --- "Peter A. Giessel" wrote: > > > On 2006/08/03 11:29, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com > seems to have typed: > > Also the H-sync should prolly be 50 hertz locked > as > > this seems to be PAL's standard refresh rate. > > My replies don't show up on the list for some reason > (something about > how the freebsd.org servers can't find my server's > FQDN), but I'm pretty > sure that he needs to set his VertRefresh to 50 for > PAL (and I've > sent him a message as such). > I figured as much, I know TV's aren't monitors and so a range of values didn't seem valid. Ahhh, your servers don't do a reverse domain name lookup properly... If they're your servers then you should be able to fix that. The Complete FreeBSD has some section on it which is reasonably parsable by humans... (I kid, I kid gotta learn how to do a DNS server myself so it's still a little cryptic to me) If its your ISP I would keep sending them Shame on you messages until they fix it. I know that reverse domain lookup is typcially done to help eliminate spam anyway so you can use that as firepower. if they're using Mircosoft servers it probably won't be able to be fixed anytime soon. At least not until Microsoft starts using standards that don't have their trademark on it... Although if Mac.com is your domain then Mac servers would likely be being used, which means its a variant of BSD anyway and should be just a simple configuration change on their end... -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:47:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F17116A4DF; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42343D5C; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k73Jljnc001429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from [172.21.130.86] (mx-broadway [38.98.68.18]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73Jld5V067833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:47:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: standards@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:47:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608031547.34386.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1634/Wed Aug 2 18:32:49 2006 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: conundrum: _C99_SOURCE vs. sigset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:47:56 -0000 Hello! I'm trying to compile a program, which uses threads and has its own daemon global variable. The variable's declaration results in an error: recsnap.C:50: error: `RTRString daemon' redeclared as different kind of symbol /usr/include/stdlib.h:252: error: previous declaration of `int daemon(int, int)' The daemon()'s declaration in stdlib.h can be turned off by declaring either _C99_SOURCE or _ANSI_SOURCE. Unfortunately, both of these defines also turn off the declaration of sigset_t and fd_set: /usr/include/pthread.h:233: error: expected `,' or `...' before '*' token .../include/rtr/selectni.h:129: error: `fd_set' does not name a type Can this be solved -- without modifying the vendor's code? Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 19:56:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D0316A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D219D43D73 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k73JuLfm022075 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:56:21 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k73JuKuo007683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:56:21 -0700 Message-ID: <44D254E2.6080503@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:56:18 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060709) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060803120045.C0D5616A655@hub.freebsd.org> <20060803123845.GN59927@ms.unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <20060803123845.GN59927@ms.unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.8.3.124433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_24 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: RealTek 8139 not identified in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:56:22 -0000 Andrew Robinson wrote: > Hi Marlon, > > This thread may (or may not) prove useful to you: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2005-March/011012.html > > Good luck! > > Andrew > >> From: marlon@freemail.gr >> Subject: RealTek 8139 not identified in FreeBSD >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Message-ID: <44d1c23354f779.69917338@freemail.gr> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" >> >> >> Hello. >> >> I have an Acer Aspire 1600 laptop with a RealTek 8139 integrated network card. >> The card is not identified at all in neither FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE nor in >> FreeBSD 5-STABLE, not even in DragonFlyBSD (which is a fork of FreeBSD 5 IIRC). >> "pciconf -lv" does not report back any information on the card at all. >> >> Linux and Windows however can identify the card as "RealTek 8139 chip type >> 'RTL-8100B/8139D' at 0x1800-0x18ff, Memory: EC005000-EC0050FF, IRQ 19". >> >> Since FreeBSD is a lot better for my computing needs, is there a way I can >> get the above card to work correctly (or even work at all) in FreeBSD? >> >> Thanks in advance. Have you compiled miibus support into the kernel? As a sidenote though, if you haven't custom built a kernel it should work straight out of the box. Also if you build ACPI or APM support into your kernel, the IRQ for your ACPI or APM functionality may be the same as the IRQ for your Realtek card; thus if you disable your ACPI and APM support and your Realtek card just starts to work for you, the problem is IRQ based ;). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 20:00:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC816A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2661943D68 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:59:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1183200nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uAOzOmeENHmgQRbl5MHjveJnlIEvUcfI9kIq6Rt4HBNeeeN0RN2YiaVwsBMs8+zB4yLnlphEN4Zf6nLg0ty7VGlHHc1oT3WPTqmbAccvoy1JMMyndn5HEUfNc2p3Y7T9zBtA8OJ83VbXmNO+NuqPsw9xmUUSng4nrRbdKY4g09g= Received: by 10.78.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr1018194hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.129.17 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <100416c30608031259o559654a7p45f573e84ec0f495@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:59:53 -0400 From: "John Rogers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:00:01 -0000 Hi, I was upgrading following Colin's "FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 6.1 binary upgrade" http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-6.0-to-6.1/ but it failed. I installed freebsd 6.0 release and only used Colin's freebsd-update to updae before. There is plenty of free space on that partition. What do you advise me to do to finish the upgrade? I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade are not legitimized in the freebsd core distribution. An important reason why linux is used by more is its easy update solution similar to Microsoft's Windows Update. Sure "make world" is fun especially to developers. But providing easy update and upgrade tools in addition will attract a large user base who just need a stable and easy to use operation system - and many of them can be companies who can be potential donors to the freebsd project. So the effort to this path will be well rewarded. Thank you very much! Tony # ./upgrade.sh Examining system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel|generic src|base src|bin src|contrib src|crypto src|etc src|gnu src|include src|krb5 src|libexec src|lib src|release src|rescue src|sbin src|secure src|share src|sys src|tools src|ubin src|usbin world|base world|catpages world|dict world|doc world|info world|manpages The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: kernel|smp src|games world|games world|proflibs Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Examining system (this will take a bit longer)...sha256: /usr/bin/gdbtui: Input/output error done. The following files from FreeBSD 6.0 have been modified since they were installed, but will be deleted or overwritten by new versions: /usr/bin/gdbtui The following files from FreeBSD 6.0 have been modified since they were installed, and will not be touched: /etc/hosts /etc/mail/aliases /etc/mail/mailer.conf /etc/manpath.config /etc/master.passwd /etc/motd /etc/newsyslog.conf /etc/passwd /etc/pwd.db /etc/shells /etc/spwd.db /etc/sysctl.conf The following files from FreeBSD 6.0 have been modified since they were installed, and the changes in FreeBSD 6.1 will be merged into the existing files: /etc/group /etc/pf.conf Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Preparing to fetch files... done. Fetching 186 patches....10....20....30....40....50....60....70....80....90.= ...100....110....120....130....140....150....160....170....180... done. Applying patches... done. 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Decompressing and verifying...tmp/2f04ed96ef1c9f550b101347a05d88f6b836cbe0bef545b3a184b620166= cac02.gz: No such file or directory [root@webserver /home/upgrade/script/upgrade]# echo $? 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 20:19:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB0616A4E7 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B87543DA9 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A1A291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63577-07; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40C3291B0A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 8D6215C191; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8724C344C2; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:35 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:18:35 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060803193502.12118.qmail@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060803171635.E6529@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803193502.12118.qmail@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Antony Mawer , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:19:21 -0000 On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com wrote: > maybe it's just because I've been reading up on it but what about > outputting the information in XML??? Then you could tag the Vendor, > Name, basic info, number of users, etc. in a tagged form that could be > then stored in a Dbase of some kind by vendor, working in FreeBSD X.Y, > broken, etc. The XML should be easily outputted on the fly to XHTML so > it can be reviewed by devolopers and what not. Just my too cents... 'k, right now, we are trying to get the data from the remote clients to a central server ... if you are thinking of using XML for this (not against it, I just know nothing about it), can you provide an example of what you are thinking, and how we'd script this to use HTTP to connect to the remote server? The hard part of all of this is that it cannot require *anything* except for the base system, so no php, no perl ... just pure shell commands ... it cannot require an administrator to install anything above the script itself ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 20:57:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B917516A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69CDE43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26064 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 20:57:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4bvtHHwh2NG9AW4PVjkZ5UeS0WA8LV7iX/okGtRSesKBW1oLN44nBN6mdv4u3vMGywJXK8UXFYc04VwvUVncvp2Heiu0fzxZsW8+8m00Tx+Yg3aHGmckv3RBjfAhZ5TWq9wLZAw3MduqQH5I82onmJnFGzHJsgI0TeKdkBI3d9E= ; Message-ID: <20060803205730.26062.qmail@web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web81602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:57:30 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:57:30 -0700 (PDT) From: To: User Freebsd , backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060803171635.E6529@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Antony Mawer , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:57:31 -0000 --- User Freebsd wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > maybe it's just because I've been reading up on it > but what about > > outputting the information in XML??? Then you > could tag the Vendor, > > Name, basic info, number of users, etc. in a > tagged form that could be > > then stored in a Dbase of some kind by vendor, > working in FreeBSD X.Y, > > broken, etc. The XML should be easily outputted on > the fly to XHTML so > > it can be reviewed by devolopers and what not. > Just my too cents... > > 'k, right now, we are trying to get the data from > the remote clients to a > central server ... if you are thinking of using XML > for this (not against > it, I just know nothing about it), can you provide > an example of what you > are thinking, and how we'd script this to use HTTP > to connect to the > remote server? > > The hard part of all of this is that it cannot > require *anything* except > for the base system, so no php, no perl ... just > pure shell commands ... > it cannot require an administrator to install > anything above the script > itself ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking > Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org > MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org > ICQ . 7615664 > ok well I'm not much of a C programmer right now so I'll give you waht I think in psuedo-psuedo-psuedo-code write a small program that shell calls pciconf -lv and outputs this to a temporary file or buffers to memory. Then use maybe a tr (translate I think its tr, never really used the command) to change things like Vendor: foobar in the pciconf -lv output to Vendor: foorbar Hardware: RAID controller or whatever XML tags you want to use using the acutal output data from pciconf -lv as a starting point take this tagged file and insert it into a properly defined XML file with the header defined and a proper root tag like [standard XML header info, may be system specific based on encoding and what not] making tr work line by line with exception handling for all the tags it might encounter is something I would have to look into more myself. Then you could write up a CSS or XSLT stylesheet so it will display this information to a webbrowser however your want. Once you have figured out what tags you want to use this shouldn't be too hard. I guess a script file would be the easiest way to accompish all this in hindsight,as all the commands I've used are standard shell commands. Putting it all together is going to take more thought then what I can give it at work right now. The stylesheet could be stored on a central server of your choosing and added to the header for the XML that the script file generates. If this is still not very understandable I will see if I can generate a shell program to get things started. myunderstanding is once the shell is installed it should be runable by anyone with access to pciconf, tr, cat, and maybe a few other commands like date and whatnot for documentation sake; which means any user should be able to run and install the script in their home/bin directory. As far as uploading this file to a database that is beyond the scope of my feable mind, but I don't think it would be too hard to accomplish if someone was more familiar with db or whatever other database you want to store this by. hope this gives you more of an idea as to what I was getting at, hopefully there will be more to come if I figure this thing out; I need to learn how to process XML for a little project I'm working on for a friend anyway. The good thing about this is once in XML I know there are stardard ways of serving the XML file with a webserver for display. What I don't know is how to make it searchable or concatenate all the hardware and what not so you can see a per device status as to its functionality in a particular snapshot of FreeBSD. -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:09:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9B16A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7145043D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.232]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3F0034BXG9C4D0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3F001GRXG99Q30@pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3F007LLXG9RSP0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 6037 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:09:41 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:09:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:09:40 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <100416c30608031259o559654a7p45f573e84ec0f495@mail.gmail.com> To: John Rogers Message-id: <44D26614.7010704@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <100416c30608031259o559654a7p45f573e84ec0f495@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:09:49 -0000 John Rogers wrote: > Hi, I was upgrading following Colin's "FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 6.1 > binary upgrade" > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-6.0-to-6.1/ > > but it failed. I installed freebsd 6.0 release and only used Colin's > freebsd-update to updae before. There is plenty of free space on that > partition. What do you advise me to do to finish the upgrade? Based on what you pasted below, I suggest 1. Figure out why /usr/bin/gdbtui can't be read. In particular, make sure your hard drive isn't dying. 2. The error which made the script terminate is either due to a dying hard drive or a network problem which made it impossible to fetch some files. Re-run the script; it won't bother fetching files which it already has. Note that at this point all the script has done is to examine your system and download files; it won't start actually upgrading anything until it makes sure that it has all the files it needs. :-) > I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade are not legitimized > in the freebsd core distribution. An important reason why linux is > used by more is its easy update solution similar to Microsoft's > Windows Update. Sure "make world" is fun especially to developers. > But providing easy update and upgrade tools in addition will attract a > large user base who just need a stable and easy to use operation > system - and many of them can be companies who can be potential donors > to the freebsd project. So the effort to this path will be well > rewarded. We're moving in that direction. Everything starts out by being experimental before becoming officially supported and endorsed. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:11:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFC016A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [213.238.47.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9CC43D83 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: (from stb@koef.zs64.net) (authenticated) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k73LAqqK064996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:11:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <10834.167.246.36.14.1154626598.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> References: <10834.167.246.36.14.1154626598.squirrel@webmail.dfwlp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:10:52 +0200 To: Jonathan Horne X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trouble with cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:11:26 -0000 Am 03.08.2006 um 19:36 schrieb Jonathan Horne: > Server warning: RCS file error in "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/ > FreeBSD.cvs/src/sys/modules/i2c/controllers/nfsmb/Makefile,v":1: > "head" expected Looks like cvsup15.us.freebsd.org has some file corruption. Try using a different CVSUp mirror instead. > i use the stable-supfile, but with one changed line, to get me to > RELENG: > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1 Not sure I understand what you'd like to achieve: if you want FreeBSD- stable, then the tag should be RELENG_6. If you want to track the security branch, then RELENG_6_1 is correct. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:13:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D0016A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F34943D5A for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:13:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.180]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3F003AMXM4C0D0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3F00C9JXM4RVL0@pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3F0070XXM4RTM0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 6068 invoked from network); Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:13:12 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:13:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:13:11 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <44D26614.7010704@freebsd.org> To: John Rogers Message-id: <44D266E7.1050703@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <100416c30608031259o559654a7p45f573e84ec0f495@mail.gmail.com> <44D26614.7010704@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:13:17 -0000 Oops, I forgot to edit the subject line before hitting 'Send' -- for some reason, SpamAssassin thought that John's original email needed to be marked as **SPAM**. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:25:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2214C16A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from typhoon.he.net (typhoon.he.net [64.62.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A23743D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:25:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from liam ([71.141.72.46]) by typhoon.he.net for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:25:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:25:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@liam To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (SuSE-9.3 64-bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: EVDO cards and FreeBSD (verizon or sprint)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:25:08 -0000 Hello Family, I have to get a EVDO card for work purposes and wanted to ask the group if anyone can offer any suggestions to: (A) The card to buy (Unix_Friendly) (B) Verizon or Sprint? TIA -- Bill Schoolcraft <*> http://wiliweld.com ~ "Failure is not falling down, but refusing to get up!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:30:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE6616A4E5 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A471843D55 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:30:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F68291B0F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71425-02 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B85F291B0D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 3BDCE5C2E3; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CF05C2AD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:30:15 -0000 Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in the other thread, some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm starting off a new thread as a sort of summary ... I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think I've figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it still doesn't deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't think that that is a *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some might do it for a lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something that is "more worth then its worth", so over time, it should eventually balance out ... Now, the idea is to make this: a) run on as many boxes as possible b) not require any special software to be installed on the clients c) not require any special "registration" by the clients d) not pull any "sensitive" information So, here is what I've kinda got it down to ... pseudo-ish code, since I haven't got the exact syntax worked out *yet* ... specifically, parsing pciconv to get query strings out of it ... Now, this is designed to be run *once* per month, per host ... it is also meant to try, to a certain extent, deal with NAT boxes ... its not perfect, but, unfortunately, as this whole discussion has shown, there really is no "perfect" way ... STEP 1: fetch -o /tmp/getid http://bsdstats.hub.org/get_id.php get_id.php will look at the IP that is coming in, search the database, and if a host already exist, will increment by 1 and return a new id ... all IPs will have at least one: IP:1 pair in the database, NAT hosts will have IP:2, IP:3, IP:4, etc ... STEP 2: pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell programming? What needs to happen is: pcib4@pci6:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI Needs to be converted into: device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI So that the final query would look something like: fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report.php?id=`cat /tmp/getid`&device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI So there would be one 'fetch' per device listed ... report.php would take the IP:getid pair, and store one record per device into the database, from which stats could be very easily generated using standard SQL queries ... STEP 3: fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report_sys.php?id=`cat /tmp/getid`&system=`uname -mr | sed 's/\ /+/g'` To record the FreeBSD version ... ================ I personally don't think there is anything else useful / non-sensitive that we'd want to report on ... Now, the idea is that this would be dump'd into /etc/periodic/monthly, and /etc/defaults/periodic.conf would have: monthly_statistics_enable="YES" monthly_statistics_report_pciconf="YES" Optimally, we'd love to have everyone report pciconf information, since knowing what vendors and devices are in use would definitely add more weight then *just* what version of FreeBSD, but in order to hopefully get as much "buy into" this as possible, the script should be written to allow it to be disabled ... again, I can't think of why someone would feel that that was 'sensitive information', but providing the option to shut it off is definitely a must ... How does that sound? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:30:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1251C16A511 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81615.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81615.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 241F543D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 90805 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2006 21:30:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ys8HZzyDiLUjWet/DsAhqjcHik7wQ460zKpMXeb94R3QJaptf5fl46KInixTvjVwiezkP1wv8TVHztGqv9xNwD5kC6oiYmRlns6KyFZ+MNDT49QC5HIq/a3rOZULPchbgwqkCLbyzfK1DvW/JMyHrLJe2LpavXKADRUjYCTJlzE= ; Message-ID: <20060803213019.90803.qmail@web81615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.240.228.37] by web81615.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:30:19 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Colin Percival , John Rogers In-Reply-To: <44D26614.7010704@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: **SPAM** binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:30:21 -0000 > > I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade > are not legitimized > > in the freebsd core distribution. An important > reason why linux is > > used by more is its easy update solution similar > to Microsoft's > > Windows Update. Sure "make world" is fun > especially to developers. > > But providing easy update and upgrade tools in > addition will attract a > > large user base who just need a stable and easy to > use operation > > system - and many of them can be companies who can > be potential donors > > to the freebsd project. So the effort to this > path will be well > > rewarded. > > We're moving in that direction. Everything starts > out by being experimental > before becoming officially supported and endorsed. > > Colin Percival I acutally find it better to do the "make world" then to deal with binary updates because if it builds on your system it will typically run on your system, as well as there not being silly little incompatabilities with the system libraries and binaries. I find updating linux to be the most god awful prospect on earth which is why I switched to FreeBSD for the most part. It's probably gotten a lot better since Redhat 7.x which is what I was using. Gentoo is a lot better but I haven't had a working system since they updated the kernel to xx.xx.15 and put gcc 4.x into the base system... but to each their own, I know a binary update would be nice when I start deploying things like desktopbsd on my friends PCs who don't get formatting a harddrive let alone building software. However this would mean the builds would have to be generic i586, i686 and on an old p3 500mhz machine building for a specific processor with specific optimizations can make a huge difference in performance. Even more so on p2 166 machines. Again to each their own. But I wouldn't tout Microsoft update as a good thing becuase there are known bugs where updates can erase previously updated code with old buggy code... sorry been a long day had to end it with blasting microsloth... -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D292516A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B21243D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so2722806uge for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.143.12 with SMTP id q12mr946787qbd; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10sm2485566qbe.2006.08.03.14.55.46; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE2DBF98 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by seibercom.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k73LtjTa009394 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:55:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: FreeBSD Question Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:55:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608031755.44469.gerard@seibercom.net> Subject: Java & Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:55:51 -0000 Someone posted here a short time ago regarding firefox and Java. I have firefox-1.5.0.5,1/ and jdk-1.4.2p8_3/ installed. If I remember correctly there had to be a link made between two libraries in order to get it to work. Obviously I do not have it working at this time, and I cannot find that post. -- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net Bahdges? We don't need no stinkin' bahdges! "The Treasure of Sierra Madre" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 21:57:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8238B16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A2E43D58 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:57:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05C313C7D0; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:03:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7ADE213C7C5; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:03:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C8213C7BF; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:03:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:03:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: User Freebsd In-Reply-To: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20060803165843.V98843@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:57:58 -0000 > pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string that > can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be done > as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell programming? > > What needs to happen is: > > pcib4@pci6:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 > hdr=0x01 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > > Needs to be converted into: > > device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI > > So that the final query would look something like: > > fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report.php?id=`cat > /tmp/getid`&device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI This will get you close. Just change the "echo" line... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh IFS=" " query_string="" for line in `pciconf -lv` do echo $line | grep -qs "^[a-z]" if [ $? -eq 0 ] then if [ -n "$query_string" ] then echo "http://foo.com/bar.php?"$query_string query_string="" fi else query_string=$query_string`echo $line | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *=/=/' -e 's/= */=/' -e 's/ $//'`"&" fi done ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:03:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C3C16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262B143D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:03:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1215431nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DCSlzoFKqR2vR5lZ/EJWtXwspyXZDC0WFM5HvW19F4xDiyLWjYkJgNO96sEZXJGMhPrnqYNo4v4LRVLFZ3WpvWzgMGMZGjBzAoMW4osMb8TMdJ6cW01YkrKGcdwF7bbg+3lM8ZUGeg7sl9eRkZqwy/J4/oHtZ3ui1FpWeKr2fmk= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr1164308hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.129.17 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <100416c30608031503n721c1583labb86a1e8abe7978@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:03:27 -0400 From: "John Rogers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:03:36 -0000 Wow, I did not expect Colin's direct reply - and so prompt! Thanks, and great to know binary updates will be foreseeable. I actually already did it again, since it doesn't make sense to binary upgrade all those source files, I renamed /usr/src to something else, and this greatly reduced the number of files for fetching to 435 ones. The old error message is gone (it's a fairly new and high quality server). It was eventless until to the following: Installing new kernel into /boot/GENERIC... done. Moving /boot/kernel to /boot/kernel.old... done. Moving /boot/GENERIC to /boot/kernel... done. Removing schg flag from existing files... Then my connection to the server froze and I found the server rebooted itself. After login I found it was 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006. Don't know why it rebooted, and my concern it: had it finished upgrading? I looked into the upgrade.sh and found it should continue working on files referred in old-index, new-index-nonkern, new-index. However none of these files were found in the directory. Also I am worried whether the schg flags were recovered. How can I check these? Thank you. > Colin Percival wrote: > > John Rogers wrote: > > Hi, I was upgrading following Colin's "FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 6.1 > > binary upgrade" > > > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-6.0-to-6.1/ > > > > but it failed. I installed freebsd 6.0 release and only used Colin's > > freebsd-update to updae before. There is plenty of free space on that > > partition. What do you advise me to do to finish the upgrade? > > Based on what you pasted below, I suggest > 1. Figure out why /usr/bin/gdbtui can't be read. In particular, make > sure your hard drive isn't dying. > 2. The error which made the script terminate is either due to a dying > hard drive or a network problem which made it impossible to fetch some > files. Re-run the script; it won't bother fetching files which it > already has. > > Note that at this point all the script has done is to examine your > system and download files; it won't start actually upgrading anything > until it makes sure that it has all the files it needs. :-) > > > I also wonder why these binary update and upgrade are not legitimized > > in the freebsd core distribution. An important reason why linux is > > used by more is its easy update solution similar to Microsoft's > > Windows Update. Sure "make world" is fun especially to developers. > > But providing easy update and upgrade tools in addition will attract a > > large user base who just need a stable and easy to use operation > > system - and many of them can be companies who can be potential donors > > to the freebsd project. So the effort to this path will be well > > rewarded. > > We're moving in that direction. Everything starts out by being experimental > before becoming officially supported and endorsed. > > Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:05:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC4116A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B21D43D5F for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3947B291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:42 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72122-06; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2B291B0A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id E18E05C1D0; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECE05C1C6; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:46 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:46 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Philip Hallstrom In-Reply-To: <20060803165843.V98843@bravo.pjkh.com> Message-ID: <20060803190520.S25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <20060803165843.V98843@bravo.pjkh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:05:52 -0000 Sweet, thanks ... On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Philip Hallstrom wrote: >> pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string >> that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be >> done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell >> programming? >> >> What needs to happen is: >> >> pcib4@pci6:0:2: class=0x060400 card=0x00000044 chip=0x032a8086 rev=0x09 >> hdr=0x01 >> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >> device = '6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge B' >> class = bridge >> subclass = PCI-PCI >> >> Needs to be converted into: >> >> device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI >> >> So that the final query would look something like: >> >> fetch http://bsdstats.hub.org/report.php?id=`cat >> /tmp/getid`&device=pcib&vendor=Intel+Corporation&device=6700PXH+PCI+Express-to-PCI+Express+Bridge+B&class=bridge&subclass=PCI-PCI > > This will get you close. Just change the "echo" line... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > #!/bin/sh > > IFS=" > " > > query_string="" > for line in `pciconf -lv` > do > > echo $line | grep -qs "^[a-z]" > if [ $? -eq 0 ] > then > if [ -n "$query_string" ] > then > echo "http://foo.com/bar.php?"$query_string > query_string="" > fi > else > query_string=$query_string`echo $line | sed -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ > *=/=/' -e 's/= */=/' -e 's/ $//'`"&" > fi > done > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:06:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD41116A4E9 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (mail.familycareintl.org [68.167.21.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1787A43D5E for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E99C4620@www.fcimail.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: VISA CISP Thread-Index: Aca3SRcdvXXTzzigSW2G4GWRn4aiUQ== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: Subject: VISA CISP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:06:46 -0000 Hi all I'm turning to this list as well to inquire about the VISA-CISP http://usa.visa.com/business/accepting_visa/ops_risk_management/cisp.html= We are looking for someone to host our new site and the vendor told me = due to VISA's new security the fee for a dedicated server would be 500 U$D per month. I'm pretty oblivious in the web hosting world , but that seems VERY = high. FYI This is what our website needs to support Here is what we need: - PHP 4.4+ or 5+ - MySQL 4.1+ or greater - Apache 1.3+ with mod_rewrite enabled - Linux-based - SSL certificate for www.familycareintl.org - Support for configurable automated tasks (i.e,. cron jobs) (*) PHP must have the mcrypt module enabled. It should ideally be set = up to run as an Apache module, not a CGI module (however, this is not a requirement). We must be able to send mail using PHP's mail() function, which requires a functioning mail server. In order to accommodate the size of uploads that FCI wants, we'll need = PHP configured to accept file uploads of up to 60 MB. I think that's about it. Jean-Paul Natola Network Administrator Information Technology Family Care International 588 Broadway Suite 503 New York, NY 10012 Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36 Fax: 212-941-5563 Mailto: Jnatola@Familycareintl.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:15:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C3416A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5124643D49 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so336071wxd for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GrwM3Hoopm+kcBvpbK6xj24F+lNE//kAw8hby+/AUPmcDVIkMYThAMWINUdGJurxEooCm6xowyg1Z60PSH4ZdeG8vLk0dIqZSNF5yxewD6YJ9TngQ16nyuh2rfW4hv0VoRkljMnHmAetIpirkOrYO0sIU/WRJX1itSN/EKwo2Bw= Received: by 10.70.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr3881392wxc; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608031515v76f6c187v46c123dd2a1c378c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:15:41 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: kdebase upgrading bug - help and opinion needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:15:43 -0000 I am having problem upgrading kdebase from 3.4 to 3.5 on FreeBSD-6.0-release. I followed the instructions on /usr/ports/UPDATING For convenience, I post the instructions here: ----------------------------------------- 20060108: AFFECTS: users of x11/kdelibs3, x11/kdebase3, deskutils/superkaramba, x11-themes/kde-windeco-smoothblend, irc/kvirc, editors/vimpart AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org A number of files have been moved from kdebase to kdelibs between KDE 3.4.3 and KDE 3.5.0 and some applications which used to be distributed separately from KDE have been included in the release. This means that you will have to take some precautions in order to update your KDE installation without interruptions. We recommend sticking to the following procedure. This procedure requires you to have sysutils/portupgrade installed and to be the superuser (or using sudo) . 1.) Delete installed packages which conflict with the updated KDE ports. pkg_deinstall -f kdebase-\[0-9\]\* superkaramba-\[0-9\]\* \ kde-windeco-smoothblend-\[0-9]\* kvirc-\[0-9\]\* \ kdeaddons-vimpart-\[0-9\]\* 2.) Now update the remaining KDE ports. portupgrade -O arts\* kde\* \*kde-i18n\* or, if you want to update KDE along with other updated ports: portupgrade -a 3.) Reinstall the KDE ports you deleted in step 1. portinstall -O kdebase -------------------------------------------------- I followed them and, after step 3, the system complained of "bad C++ code". Please help me assess the severity of this: 1) Have you seen this? Have you had this problem? 2) Do you understand this? 3) Do you have a solution or a suggestion for this? Any help is greatly appreciated. Here is the error: --------------------------------------------------- konq_popupmenu.cc: In member function `void KonqPopupMenu::setup(uint)': konq_popupmenu.cc:797: error: no matching function for call to `KDEDesktopMimeTy pe::userDefinedServices(const QString, KSimpleConfig&, bool, KURL::List&)' /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:561: note: candidates are: static QValueList KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, bool) /usr/local/include/kmimetype.h:568: note: static QValueList KDEDesktopMimeType::userDefinedServices(const QString&, KConfig&, bool) gmake[3]: ** [konq_popupmenu.lo] Erro 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' gmake[2]: ** [all-recursive] Erro 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2/libkonq' gmake[1]: ** [all-recursive] Erro 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.5.2' gmake: ** [all] Erro 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall49261.0 mak e ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/kdebase3 (bad C++ code) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:16:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2A316A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F4843D70 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so336202wxd for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=W1EO4aNWMHWDM3RoYFY3rkhb7xF0ehw5TLCCMQOyx0oXGW8ELRNMzPyIU1Atsxa3PEuucpZ3tAYCy/BfxDixlq4+HuEr0RJWWcOK2WKEKj5SJ4sG/aL3kY/1o77i5rEqdNDpeYA+QvS8HSG8BEbjhyH0UE8Xe2WZB19dHfh5Xfc= Received: by 10.70.52.5 with SMTP id z5mr3836827wxz; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608031516r33f46a9fu326e724225e4eb6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:16:43 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Squeak Smalltalk upgrading problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:16:50 -0000 Hi -- Squeak version 3.8 is out, but ports have 3.6. Does anyone know why? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:16:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F1E16A53D for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782AE43D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so336207wxd for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=D7Q10+BvOli/aaNmqlK7SjEjQUDeKnC3uCoU/p6YkGB6EB2JkF5Y7xyDdZ+8tEemEDFk02TXxNPtiXT0Prw0cHC+E0GW96GGdjjCeWhihyJK9f2Dpnc7PhzfRzRbSlyqQoWjTKtK7Q3fRT6eNGHfSd1xnU/UO4ZYjqBiH+Bf4UE= Received: by 10.70.8.8 with SMTP id 8mr1482168wxh; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608031516r33f46a9fu326e724225e4eb6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:16:43 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Squeak Smalltalk upgrading problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:16:53 -0000 Hi -- Squeak version 3.8 is out, but ports have 3.6. Does anyone know why? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:18:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDE516A4DE; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F2E43DC5; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:17:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (static-151-204-231-237.bos.east.verizon.net [151.204.231.237]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k73MHY8s001818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:17:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from [172.21.130.86] (mx-broadway [38.98.68.18]) by corbulon.video-collage.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73MHTaG069768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:17:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. To: Stefan Farfeleder Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:17:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608031547.34386.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20060803213839.GH33267@wombat.fafoe.narf.at> In-Reply-To: <20060803213839.GH33267@wombat.fafoe.narf.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608031817.23847.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/1634/Wed Aug 2 18:32:49 2006 on corbulon.video-collage.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Cc: standards@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conundrum: _C99_SOURCE vs. sigset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:18:08 -0000 ÞÅÔ×ÅÒ 03 ÓÅÒÐÅÎØ 2006 17:38, Stefan Farfeleder ÎÁÐÉÓÁ×: > Try -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200112. Thanks, I will. > The macro _C99_SOURCE is for pure C99 code and _ANSI_SOURCE for C90 > code. šBoth don't include the header. They do -- it gets included from iostream, even when I define one of those. Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:20:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6DA16A4E1 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C643D69 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:20:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i27so336733wxd for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ermd7L62V19yVjsrtPWDnbOU3nbtBjxRZgMweuZZZb3WRKD3ZRQdTqLQ9x4vgN+rQQAilH7zTo1cQGwJV1bCO+ztvMNB/yZ21ebCHzCtx0OizWSVUKkdl9yDO1oY+fZYeFUepQjP/GP3qvEPPEWK7h9yB2DswnsPwqnoXCMWj4s= Received: by 10.70.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr3869742wxb; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608031520h4d477c1dtd1cc4ce7818662d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:20:37 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <070320062038.12316.44A9803C00045CC60000301C220075109008099A0E0B0B0703D20D010D@comcast.net> Subject: Re: firefox with flash and java! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:20:41 -0000 though the > link got chopped for me. I believe it is portugese(sp), but here is Yes, it's Portuguese. Anyone who can read Spanish can read (proper) Portuguese. They are very similar. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:26:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2358616A4E0 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9882543D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:26:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k73MQpb8018786; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k73MQp3T018785; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200608032226.k73MQp3T018785@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: gerard@seibercom.net Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200608031755.44469.gerard@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: Java & Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:26:53 -0000 > > Someone posted here a short time ago regarding firefox and Java. I have > firefox-1.5.0.5,1/ and jdk-1.4.2p8_3/ installed. If I remember correctly > there had to be a link made between two libraries in order to get it to work. > Obviously I do not have it working at this time, and I cannot find that post. I just did it yesterday and didn't have to do any link. Actually I did the jdk14 the day before for openoffice and then firefox yesterday - built them all from ports. It all worked, though it took forever and used up more than 10 GB disk.. ////jerry > > -- > Gerard Seibert > gerard@seibercom.net > > Bahdges? We don't need no stinkin' bahdges! > > "The Treasure of Sierra Madre" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:27:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E4A16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E83743D73 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:27:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from srv.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1]) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8lf0-0006EB-Ve; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:27:23 +0400 Received: from bsam by srv.sem.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8ldu-000MjC-9M; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:26:14 +0400 To: User Freebsd References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:26:14 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> (User Freebsd's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT)") Message-ID: <61257481@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:27:31 -0000 Hi Marc, On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) you wrote: > Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in the other thread, > some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm starting off a new > thread as a sort of summary ... Great idea, but should be introduced with care... > I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think I've > figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it still doesn't > deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't think that that is a > *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some might do it for a > lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something that is "more worth > then its worth", so over time, it should eventually balance out ... ...taking into consideration *why* do we want to do the stats. *If* we plan (and this is one of the goals of the project) to have those stats as a serious argument for a Big Business then we *must* prove that those numbers are not faked. Or even more strict: that those numbers can't (or even very, no VERY hard to) be faked. It's useless (as a serious argument) if it can be faked: imagine that a virus (warm or else) is written to fake it. [Can't comment on the rest right now, thus skipped] WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 22:41:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D596116A4DD for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gauthamglist@gmail.com) Received: from saraswati.hathway.com (saraswati.hathway.com [202.88.156.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E6F43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:41:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gauthamglist@gmail.com) Received: from [210.18.149.72] by saraswati.hathway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J3G00GXO1JBUX@saraswati.hathway.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:07:59 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:12:37 +0530 From: Gautham Ganapathy To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1154644957.16390.5.camel@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cc: Subject: How to build azureus port with diablo-1.5.0-b00 jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:41:23 -0000 Hi I have installed the diablo jdk package downloaded from the freebsd foundation page. Now, when I try to build the azureus port, it also tries to build jdk1.4.2 because log4j depends on that port. How can I get the ports system to use the installed jdk instead of building 1.4.2? I am using freebsd 6.1-release. Regards Gautham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 23:19:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993FB16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4041443D45 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:19:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so8017pyb for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:19:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rw3DckyH77skCtQxD5kdVyA7DSnYTva+pWE1P65I+Eza1HDlL+tQadw13r9G4PxXAwidqAkun0HLgplcOvoKKTXB2nPshqbdposgdM66TBsPd/MHsVR2SisDnIAxZXsFto0c7kVTUG0rclXHzk86qh7kydrmePAN7fx5GDdzL0k= Received: by 10.35.121.9 with SMTP id y9mr3894834pym; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608031619r151101a9y6fcc7fb9b44d704e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:19:50 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Can you install packages from STABLE in RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:19:52 -0000 Hi -- I'm currently running 6.0-SECURITY My portsnap tells me of a bunch of ports that have updates that, when I head directly for an ftp site, I find on a STABLE tree (like kde-3.5.3 - actually 3.5.2 until yesterday) For instance, ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/x11/ lists kde-3.4.2.tbz Can I install these on RELEASE? If not, why does portsnap even suggest them? TIA. HL. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 23:29:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92DC16A4DF for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3868743D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:29:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.62] (HELO mx1.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 343290899 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:29:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 27174 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2006 23:29:42 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2006 23:29:42 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D286E5.80209@ywave.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:29:41 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <44CFE745.1000206@ywave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [SOLVED] X11+ssh+jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:29:44 -0000 Micah wrote: > > I'm having problems trying to get X11 to forward from an ezjail created > jail environment. Here's what happens: > > trisha% ssh -X 10.0.0.1 > ... > test% xclock > X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. > X connection to test:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > > I added "X11UseLocalhost no" to sshd_config as suggested on the lists a > while back, but it didn't change anything. > > Host is: > trisha# uname -a > FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p3 #1: > Sat Jul 15 15:48:17 PDT 2006 > root@trisha.eidolonworld:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA i386 > > Thanks, > Micah Okay, it took me half a day to trip over the solution. The other half a day was spent trying to figure out what that solution actually was. It was a combination of two things (out of the dozen that I tried) that weren't set up correctly. The jailed system must be able to resolve it's own name to an IP address. Since my home network does not have DNS, that meant adding "10.0.0.1 test" to /etc/hosts on the jailed environment. Also, "X11UseLocalhost no" must be set in the jailed sshd_config. Unless *both* of those are set properly, I get the error as mentioned above. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 23:33:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB0A16A4DA for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6183E43D4C for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:33:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k73NXmSV014710; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11739-07; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:33:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k73NXHkb014395; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.0.0.24]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5, 0, 3, 78) id ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:33:17 +1000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:16 +1000 Message-ID: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F11EEC93@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Adding a FreeBSD Gateway on a DSL/ ATM circuit Thread-Index: Aca3K+D3ry4vElzIT0C6adJGhit0VwAKMKig From: "Murray Taylor" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: Adding a FreeBSD Gateway on a DSL/ ATM circuit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:33:53 -0000 look at the defaults in /etc/defaults/rc.conf specifically look for lines with gateway in them ie gateway_enable=3D"NO" copy the appropriate lines into /etc/rc.conf edit =20 ie gateway_enable=3D"YES" You will need to set the the default_route line also to point=20 to the isp I think ... HTH mjt > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > admin@hdk5.com > Sent: Friday, 4 August 2006 4:36 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Adding a FreeBSD Gateway on a DSL/ ATM circuit >=20 > Aloha, >=20 > My current problem is that I need to use a box as a FreeBSD=20 > 6.* gateway/firewall to the internet protecting an MS box=20 > that is in the office for doing a lot of photo work and=20 > uploading to servers for the company my wife works with. I=20 > was going to use a freesco (Linux)disk=20 > /firewall/gateway/router like I have on my single dsl 1.5/384 line.=20 > (This is currently what is protecting the MS box on this circuit.) >=20 > However, the freesco setup does not work as a gateway on the=20 > leg of the ATM 5 IP circuit where we want to move the MS box=20 > to. I have tried to get it setup and have emailed the freesco=20 > lists and apparently no one has accomplished this. >=20 > I have now built a FreeBSD box with 2 nics to use as a=20 > gateway/router/firewall between the single MS box and the=20 > internet. ed1 is on the 66.xxx.132.236 leg of the ATM. The=20 > defaultgateway on the internet side of the ATM is 66.xxx.132.233. > The LAN side of the box ed0 is 192.168.1.1 to which the MS=20 > box is directed. ( I am using a test box 192.168.1.29 with=20 > FreeBSD 6* in place of the MS box at this point.) >=20 > I can ping from the gateway box nic to the internet ok. I can=20 > ping from the Test box to the Lan side of the gateway box OK.=20 > I cant reach the internet thru the gateway. I have read=20 > probably 5 howtos from the FreeBSD hand book and elsewhere=20 > and none are exactly what I am doing. >=20 > On FreeBSD Questions list recently there was a similar issue=20 > question posted but no body answered the post. >=20 > It had to do with rc.conf >=20 > Listing both Nics ifconfig_ed0 =3D66.xxx.132.236 netmask > 255.255.255.248 #inet side > ifconfig -ed1=3D192.168.1.1 netmask = > 255. 255.255.0 # lan side > and gateway_enable=3D"YES" which=20 > I have done. >=20 > At this point I have not attempted a firewall PF or IPFW=20 > since I cant reach the internet thru the gateway and I want=20 > to understand what is not right with this setup first. >=20 > If I use: route add -net 192.168.1 .29 192.168.1.1 >=20 > I can no longer ping the Lan side of the gateway from the test box. >=20 > Can you direct me to or give me a howto on setting this up so=20 > I can reach the internet if indeed its possible using a=20 > gateway/firewall on the leg of an ATM circuit? Any help would=20 > be appreciated. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii >=20 > - Admin -- http://hawaiidakine.com -- http://hdk5.com -- > -- http://internetohana.org -- http://freeBSDinfo.org -- +=20 > Supporting open source computing - FreeBSD 6.* + >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --------------------------------------------------------------- ***This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal.*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 3 23:35:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A84316A4DE for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899C943D53 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:35:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1238397nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aMG1LbhHgeeHRoa7L+zNVTHe2ILG3YR7Ry5huMdHqbvQk8FHozM+yPyM+Z7oSL6vuJZ7ApQPnuCq4b/BmSRYdZ24H71uw5uI//NzhA2Nsc5+aBVJI13rDWci6i/MV9GrZY04LGHwTVOXt9Q/Yid4+HgHbD58yv3xPZCeGcyxte8= Received: by 10.78.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr1252066hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.130.4 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <340a29540608031635s59647a6clf06731410095c1b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:35:51 +0000 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Interesting problem with packages, how to fix if corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:35:53 -0000 Hello everyone, If I do pkg_info with nothing else, all looks well. However, if I do "pkg_info | grep " (which I do frequently so I don't have to read through the entire list) I get these two errors: pkg_info: the package info for package 'portupgrade-2.0.1_1,1' is corrupt pkg_info: the package info for package 'ruby18-bdb4-0.5.7' is corrupt How would I go about fixing these packages, or at least fixing the package information? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:10:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D00616A4EB for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CC3943D55 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17783 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 00:10:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S8tyPE1DPyrzMT6QRU7W5uUW/g/8OMerEez7XqT/ipfog9/k/r46PsACHEGebzQLAWADZ6DoM8hQPrEGBGW6JkyQWfHYXRwr2uQgkZYv1M1H9dMPfTAuXMofoGqa6iik72BYoKeSYoEMeOx6eeuTIkR8Wh9PvFcOkt42t7O+eSU= ; Message-ID: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [75.25.98.170] by web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:10:11 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Boris Samorodov , User Freebsd In-Reply-To: <61257481@srv.sem.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:10:16 -0000 --- Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hi Marc, > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) you wrote: > > > Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in > the other thread, > > some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm > starting off a new > > thread as a sort of summary ... > > Great idea, but should be introduced with care... > > > I've been doing some thinking on it this > afternoon, and think I've > > figured out about the simpliest way of doing it > ... it still doesn't > > deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't > think that that is a > > *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some > might do it for a > > lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something > that is "more worth > > then its worth", so over time, it should > eventually balance out ... > > ...taking into consideration *why* do we want to do > the stats. *If* > we plan (and this is one of the goals of the > project) to have those > stats as a serious argument for a Big Business then > we *must* prove > that those numbers are not faked. Or even more > strict: that those > numbers can't (or even very, no VERY hard to) be > faked. > > It's useless (as a serious argument) if it can be > faked: imagine that > a virus (warm or else) is written to fake it. > > [Can't comment on the rest right now, thus skipped] > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & > Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power > To Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any centralized fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to choose to do something is tracked or monitored; because it is no longer a freedom. Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we call the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get people in this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I think giving them numbers of systems will just be ignored. But getting 1000 emails a day in multiple languages from around the world will get them thinking maybe its worth at least releasing the specs just to shut these people up. I know I would get sick of it, and would have to especially if I were a bossman. Why do I want to pay poeple to deal with the same questions every single day when they aren't asking me to necessarily program a driver for them. All they want is the specs so they can do it themselves. Code is proprietary in todays world unfortunatley, but knowing what registers and what values go into them to make a RAID card work shouldn't be. But alas maybe big brother thinks it is, I still remember getting my commodore 64 (I was in hghschool, it was already 15years old then...) and having the full schematic of how to build the thing in the instructions. What has this world come too. Lets piss off these vendors instead of driving ourselves nutz trying to collect usage data, thats what spammers are for... my too cents -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:18:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444B716A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754A843D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:18:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 08:18:35 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="889201751:sNHT44657372" Message-ID: <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:17:36 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:18:38 -0000 On 4/08/2006 4:58 AM, User Freebsd wrote: > Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this > on my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on > older versions: > > # pciconf -l > chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 > hdr=0x00 ... > And, more specifically, we can get: > > # pciconf -l -v > asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology > (DPT))' > device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' information is present in the non -v version of the command output. The numbers shown earlier can be used to derive the text information: class=0x010400 determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT listing). The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the vendor who manufactured the card & perhaps their name for it. In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back to any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, > > So, with that one command, we can get a fair amount of hardware > information ... but, how to feed that into a proper HTTP request? > Storing all of that information would be cool, cause then we could build > reports based on device driver / vendor / device / class and subclass > ... but that might be a bit heavy to do in an HTTP request, no? I take > it email isn't an option, in your case? Email may be a viable alternative -- one concern with email is that various organisations SMTP servers blast their own disclaimer message and so on across the bottom of all out-going emails, which might complicate parsing of it on the server end. If you're only encoding purely the numeric details, this would make the information far lighter to transmit than having the whole text blurb. Just the pciconf -l version as-is: ~$ pciconf -l|wc -c 1545 So that's ~1500 bytes. Now strip out all the unnecessary text - the class=, card=, chip=, rev=, hdr=, extra spaces... something like: mpt0@pci2:5:0: 010000 34358086 00301000 08 00 mpt1@pci2:5:1: 010000 34358086 00301000 08 00 em0@pci3:4:0: 020000 10798086 10798086 03 00 em1@pci3:4:1: 020000 10798086 10798086 03 00 ~$ cat pciconf-stripped | wc -c 899 We've nearly halved the size of the information. Now it's still in ASCII, so you could further shave bits off by converting that to binary if you wanted to... With that amount of information, you'd probably be more inclined to want to use HTTP POST than HTTP GET. A quick glance suggests libfetch(3) doesn't support this; I haven't looked at the code enough to see if adding support for it would be trivial or not. -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:18:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C8316A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98E843D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2253F291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78700-09; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67017291B05; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 9C2865C5A2; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AC65C49A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:23 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:18:23 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Boris Samorodov In-Reply-To: <61257481@srv.sem.ipt.ru> Message-ID: <20060803203134.X25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <61257481@srv.sem.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:18:39 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hi Marc, > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) you wrote: > >> Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in the other thread, >> some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm starting off a new >> thread as a sort of summary ... > > Great idea, but should be introduced with care... > >> I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think I've >> figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it still doesn't >> deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't think that that is a >> *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some might do it for a >> lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something that is "more worth >> then its worth", so over time, it should eventually balance out ... > > ...taking into consideration *why* do we want to do the stats. *If* > we plan (and this is one of the goals of the project) to have those > stats as a serious argument for a Big Business then we *must* prove > that those numbers are not faked. Or even more strict: that those > numbers can't (or even very, no VERY hard to) be faked. > > It's useless (as a serious argument) if it can be faked: imagine that > a virus (warm or else) is written to fake it. Personally, I do not believe that there is any *safe* way of protecting against this happening ... short of having a userid/passwd schema and forcing ppl to actually register ... of course, then less ppl would participate, since it would then be too much work ... The thing is to do as much as we possible can to 'tighten it down' without making it difficult to use ... over time, if something gets added to the OS that helps improve this, we can extend teh script to check for and use such features ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:23:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E6E16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE943D70 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:23:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 08:22:59 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="421170345:sNHT17785944" Message-ID: <44D2933D.9090504@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:22:21 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:23:06 -0000 On 4/08/2006 7:30 AM, User Freebsd wrote: ... > STEP 2: > > pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string > that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be > done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell > programming? See my comment in the other thread -- you don't need any of the text details, all yo uneed are teh class/card/chip/rev/hdr fields. The bits before it would be helpful to identify what drivers are attached on different versions (and also to see what drivers people disable vs leave enabled for bits of their hardware). > Optimally, we'd love to have everyone report pciconf information, since > knowing what vendors and devices are in use would definitely add more > weight then *just* what version of FreeBSD, but in order to hopefully > get as much "buy into" this as possible, the script should be written to > allow it to be disabled ... again, I can't think of why someone would > feel that that was 'sensitive information', but providing the option to > shut it off is definitely a must ... Agreed - if someone wants to stand up and be counted, but they feel details of their hardware choices to be a gross violation of their personal privacy, then we shouldn't put that in their way as a barrier to adoption. -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:24:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C816A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ECC43D80 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41880291B11; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23012-04; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD02291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id DF07B5C5BC; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA04C5C49A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060803211935.S25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:24:50 -0000 On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com wrote: > Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any centralized > fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to choose to do > something is tracked or monitored; because it is no longer a freedom. > Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. none of your freedoms will be in any way infringed upon with what is proposed ... you will always have the freedom to disable the reporting and not particpate *shrug* > I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have > unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask > them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we call > the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get people in > this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I think giving them > numbers of systems will just be ignored. But getting 1000 emails a day > in multiple languages from around the world will get them thinking maybe > its worth at least releasing the specs just to shut these people up. The above is an "active campaign", which you will generally find doesn't yield anything, unfortunately, since its more work then 99.9% of the people will feel compelled to do ... As ScottL said in one of his emails, in a form ... We don't want to piss Adaptec off, which a "letter writing campaign" would ... what we want to do is give Adaptec something to think about in terms of 'market missed' ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:29:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E33C16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1A843D6A for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F45291B0D; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:29:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19440-07; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F081B291B05; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:29:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 078925C64A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:29:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CD75C49A; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:29:55 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:29:55 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> Message-ID: <20060803212521.J25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:29:57 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 4/08/2006 4:58 AM, User Freebsd wrote: >> Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this on >> my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on older >> versions: >> >> # pciconf -l >> chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 >> hdr=0x00 > ... >> And, more specifically, we can get: >> >> # pciconf -l -v >> asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 >> hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology >> (DPT))' >> device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' >> class = mass storage >> subclass = RAID > > All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' information is > present in the non -v version of the command output. The numbers shown > earlier can be used to derive the text information: > > class=0x010400 > determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: > http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 > > card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 > these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in > /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT > listing). > > The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID > while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by > the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to > implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may > use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's > essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the > vendor who manufactured the card & perhaps their name for it. > > In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back to > any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, I was thinking of that ... my concern, and it may be totally invalid, but is it guaranteed to always translate the same? ie: fxp0@pci2:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10408086 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82550/1/7/8/9 EtherExpress PRO/100(B) Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet Will that always translate the same regardless of running 4.x vs 5.x vs ... ? If so, you are right, that does greatly simplify things ... I just wasn't 100% certain ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:32:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2714A16A4E7 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B4343D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:32:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.ph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1251856nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FBMc240RX5RRdWdCjSvjT3ryZLhhjU5E/q+HbbaNMjidoSAlm/flOqtZLBCkoT39/NGW7osak5E3PUuMRvdXSHoXo8fQ1qYsaUgZrskc5PHUMOUsu1lJNAfFg5OEpTL763ypemyKgtjeMs4cN/hMdUFn0Ag8VewB/VKRkMjVBv0= Received: by 10.78.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr1315510hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.141.18 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:32:32 +0800 From: "jan gestre" To: Dave In-Reply-To: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000301c6b6fd$dc85b890$0200a8c0@satellite> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade ruby vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:32:34 -0000 On 8/3/06, Dave wrote: > > Hello, > I'm getting an error from ruby whenever i run a portupgrade. Checking > portaudit i see this is a vulnerability. Is there a fiix for it? > Thanks. > Dave. > > i had these warnings too, just use portupgrade or portmanager to upgrade your ports, there is a vulnerability in ruby-1.8.4_8,1 and it was fixed with ruby-1.8.4_9,1. update the portaudit database so you won't see the warning message again. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:37:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861C016A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09A2143D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:37:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 18939 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 00:37:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=FOKkAhSfMjl2XRxe3QmHyHtt2WCnwUHGbEokVhGCxluqj9jLESw2XRDTHu+cSEp46copbIssyP6z7hbQjGU3urRwMFyhLWiZWnkXf5atDMRHQDNxPZvQUCIIUI8CIlhQyZiEm+PNEyRinPnNCmfSrmMScFIOM1JxyMlEk0vZBTw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@70.27.160.99 with login) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 00:37:55 -0000 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'User Freebsd'" , Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:38:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> Thread-Index: Aca3RCQ4EnZ49Yx6Q+2ISbP1sA7tyAAGX/Lw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Message-Id: <20060804003755.09A2143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:37:58 -0000 > I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think=20 > I've figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it=20 > still doesn't deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't=20 > think that that is a *huge* problem that needs to be=20 > addressed ... some might do it for a lark, but, overall, it=20 > just sounds like something that is "more worth then its=20 > worth", so over time, it should eventually balance out ... >=20 Excellent idea, and will be one of first to register! I don't believe at = first it is that important to ensure no fake entries, it is more crucial = to get this project started at first then deal with the more troublesome = details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 00:39:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D25616A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70E343D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:39:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.55] (HELO mx3.av-mx.com) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 343338116 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:39:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 25971 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 00:39:26 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by mx3.av-mx.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 00:39:26 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D2973C.5040501@ywave.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:39:24 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gautham Ganapathy References: <1154644957.16390.5.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1154644957.16390.5.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to build azureus port with diablo-1.5.0-b00 jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:39:28 -0000 Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > Hi > > I have installed the diablo jdk package downloaded from the freebsd > foundation page. Now, when I try to build the azureus port, it also > tries to build jdk1.4.2 because log4j depends on that port. How can I > get the ports system to use the installed jdk instead of building 1.4.2? > I am using freebsd 6.1-release. > > Regards > Gautham log4j doesn't specify a java version, so it should work with any. azureus, however, is a little more specific and might be the culprit. You might be able to fix it by setting one of the java knobs in make.conf, but since I don't have diablo installed, I couldn't tell you which one to set. :( Check /usr/local/etc/javavms to see which java VMs are installed and how javavmwrapper refers to diablo, maybe we can figure it out from that. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:10:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102E216A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBA843D58 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:10:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C80FA9B497; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:40:38 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:40:38 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Ron Clark Message-ID: <20060804011038.GH48182@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20060803163901.0BEE5314294@mxo1.broadbandsupport.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiQKDdln2jY//0TJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060803163901.0BEE5314294@mxo1.broadbandsupport.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Gerard Seibert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ron.Clark@eaglegl.com Subject: Re: Mysql from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:10:41 -0000 --YiQKDdln2jY//0TJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, 3 August 2006 at 12:39:00 -0400, Ron Clark wrote: > > OK, I rebuilt the box again and cvsuped my ports and got the machi=3D = ne > back to 5.5 STABLE. When I tried to install mysql server 5.1, I get > the =3D following: > > =3D=3D=3D> Running ldconfig > /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql > =3D=3D=3D> Ins=3D talling ldconfig configuration file > cannot create /usr/local/libdata/l=3D dconfig/mysql: No such file or > directory > *** Error code 2 > S=3D top in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-client. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql51-server. > > Is there any reason wh=3D y the install cannot create this directory? I > am installing this as root. <=3D /p> =2E.. > =0D _______________________________________________ > =0D [1]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > =0D [2]Ma=3D ilScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from ".." > claiming to be > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > =0D To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[3]freebsd-questions- unsubscr= ibe@freebsd.org" > =0D =0D > > References > > 1. 3D"javascript:top.opencompose('freebsd-questions@freebsd.org','',''= 2. file://localhost/tmp/3D"../parse.pl?redirect=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Flists.fre= e 3. 3D"javascript:top.opencompos________________________________________= _______ This message is so messed up that I can't tell what problems come from your MUA and what is part of your original problem with MySQL. Can you try resending cleanly? Thaks Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --YiQKDdln2jY//0TJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0p6OIubykFB6QiMRAtlVAJ9UlDGBIXwepWpEKPpJCo2sdUuBPgCgtaVv SC4IK3mT42CpQQoV1+Kd53I= =Ekwi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiQKDdln2jY//0TJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:18:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CFE16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E10343D58 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:18:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ju/ZKgJndk/pepzy3VOkpjujdCD3dlVWE4mDqFfIJt2P0FJRQ7N1yb/h/mRLDry9; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.116.176.211] (helo=Wednesday) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1G8oK8-0002GZ-E3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <09a101c6b763$d38baef0$0225a8c0@Wednesday> From: "jdow" To: References: <20060802215822.GA17563@lothlorien.nagual.nl> <6.0.0.22.2.20060803103118.02690e30@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:17:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b5711204eaf262a4af65595cbadab7869132bf508a8bb3e8e732a70350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.116.176.211 Subject: Re: 17" or 19" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:18:06 -0000 Please excuse me for being picky here. Contrast ratio is not nearly as important as color tracking if color fidelity is important to the user. I'd look for good reviews on the two Somebody who is spending all her time in Eclipse developing non-graphics software a higher contrast ratio might reduce fatigue. But if the person is using graphics a lot and visual fidelity is important I'd recommend finding a site on the web that reviews monitors for their various colorimitry factors. (And a gamer might want to check for reviews that are gamer related.) {^_^} Joanne From: "Derek Ragona" > You need to compare more than just the resolution. Differences in LCD's > are digital vs analog, some do both. Digital is preferred if your video > will support it. The contrast ratio: 300:1, 500:1, 600:1, 1000:1, > etc. More is better in contrast. Last is the update speed in ms. You > want faster update speeds when given a choice. The update speed effects > how crisp the image is when changing, say viewing a video of gaming, but > even in regular refreshing of the screen. > > -Derek > > > At 04:58 PM 8/2/2006, dick hoogendijk wrote: >>Two LCD screens. Both have the same resolution (1280x1024) >>The 19" is $100 more expensive as the 17" >>What would to your opinions be the right thing to do. >>Go for the 17" or the larger (but probably a little less crystal sharp) >>19" one. I'm not that rich. Probably my doubts are rooted in this;-) >>Thanks for any advice. >> >>-- >>dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE >>++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>-- >>This message has been scanned for viruses and >>dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>believed to be clean. >>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:25:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F3E16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6115A43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 09:22:13 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="578651377:sNHT5773908364" Message-ID: <44D2A11F.2010309@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:21:35 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> <20060803212521.J25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803212521.J25268@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:25:18 -0000 On 4/08/2006 10:29 AM, User Freebsd wrote: > I was thinking of that ... my concern, and it may be totally invalid, > but is it guaranteed to always translate the same? ie: > ... > > Will that always translate the same regardless of running 4.x vs 5.x vs > ... ? If so, you are right, that does greatly simplify things ... I > just wasn't 100% certain ... The text may change slightly, but if anything, wouldn't it be better if all your stats consistently referred to the same device IDs with the same strings? A vendor name may be updated in the list (company gets bought out, renamed, etc), but I'm fairly sure nothing ever gets *removed* from the list - it just grows as new devices and vendors are added over time. The important information is the ID numbers -- the text attached to them will always be the same in meaning, even if the text may vary a few letters here or there (ie. a device ID that was a Pro/1000 NIC won't suddenly turn into a Realtek 8139 one day). The non-verbose information is all you need for building a stats database. Your stats database can have its own database of the pcidevs.txt imported periodically, and link the information up at display time. -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:28:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B516A4E1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@cruzinternet.com) Received: from mail.cruzinternet.com (mail.cruzinternet.com [216.234.167.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9536043D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:28:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nehe@cruzinternet.com) Received: (qmail 45576 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 01:28:22 -0000 Received: from iphost-216-234-182-9.cruzinternet.com (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (216.234.182.9) by mail.cruzinternet.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 01:28:22 -0000 Message-ID: <44D2A2B5.6040500@cruzinternet.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:28:21 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060803215556.A51AF16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803215556.A51AF16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vidcontrol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:28:24 -0000 I've noticed an odd problem when I set allscreens_flags="MODE_282". If I set this in rc.conf, when I reboot my machine, the minute GDM comes up, I can see black on the top half of my screen, overwriting everything else on the screen. As I move the mouse, the black lines overwrite more of the screen. I can also see a very tiny cursor moving in the black. What this looks like to me, is that part of the console screen memory is overwriting the screen. Is there a fix for this or is this a known problem? If I disable the allscreens_flags in rc.conf, boot normally, switch to a console CTLR_ALT-F1from within Gnome then run vidcontrol MODE_282 then switch back everything is fine... no corruption. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:35:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D5316A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3970743D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:35:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 09:35:32 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="421237845:sNHT16800064" Message-ID: <44D2A442.6040704@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:34:58 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tamouh H." References: <20060804003755.09A2143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20060804003755.09A2143D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'User Freebsd' Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:35:34 -0000 On 4/08/2006 10:38 AM, Tamouh H. wrote: >> I've been doing some thinking on it this afternoon, and think >> I've figured out about the simpliest way of doing it ... it >> still doesn't deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't >> think that that is a *huge* problem that needs to be >> addressed ... some might do it for a lark, but, overall, it >> just sounds like something that is "more worth then its >> worth", so over time, it should eventually balance out ... >> > > Excellent idea, and will be one of first to register! I don't believe at first it is that important to ensure no fake entries, it is more crucial to get this project started at first then deal with the more troublesome details. The best approach is probably to start out with a v1 as an experiment - get interested parties involved, start testing, evaluate your results, modify as necessary... ... once you have something that's been proven on a smaller scale, you can look to expand the scope and get more wide-spread usage. -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:44:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D06716A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644D643D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:44:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1269345nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:44:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X4tZGxOLjqpCxxBMVI3+coIlsUZMLTPistcgOfYG1REmIxr5VzsGhgxfi9gJ6mCkN1QwSZPGUqkGFPLMro/O8Zp5OVVgJ0QH5xuzRrz8e+q92skbxuMV/7woF2I6lvBo1dooIN2BakosiMf9d6yraaTW4KDjDrH0rFicyJKzcCk= Received: by 10.78.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr1378354hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:44:26 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Antony Mawer" In-Reply-To: <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:44:29 -0000 On 8/3/06, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 4/08/2006 4:58 AM, User Freebsd wrote: > > Getting a list of devices is actually pretty easy, and I've tried this > > on my 4.x machines also, so it isn't something that will be a problem on > > older versions: > > > > # pciconf -l > > chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x700c1022 rev=0x20 > > hdr=0x00 > ... > > And, more specifically, we can get: > > > > # pciconf -l -v > > asr0@pci0:9:0: class=0x010400 card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 rev=0x01 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Adaptec (Formerly: Distributed Processing Technology > > (DPT))' > > device = 'Raptor SmartRAID Controller' > > class = mass storage > > subclass = RAID > > All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' > information is present in the non -v version of the command output. The > numbers shown earlier can be used to derive the text information: > > class=0x010400 > determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: > http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 > > card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 > these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in > /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT > listing). > > The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID > while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by > the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to > implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may > use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's > essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the > vendor who manufactured the card & perhaps their name for it. > > In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back > to any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, > > > > > So, with that one command, we can get a fair amount of hardware > > information ... but, how to feed that into a proper HTTP request? > > Storing all of that information would be cool, cause then we could build > > reports based on device driver / vendor / device / class and subclass > > ... but that might be a bit heavy to do in an HTTP request, no? I take > > it email isn't an option, in your case? > > Email may be a viable alternative -- one concern with email is that > various organisations SMTP servers blast their own disclaimer message > and so on across the bottom of all out-going emails, which might > complicate parsing of it on the server end. > > If you're only encoding purely the numeric details, this would make the > information far lighter to transmit than having the whole text blurb. > Just the pciconf -l version as-is: > > ~$ pciconf -l|wc -c > 1545 > > So that's ~1500 bytes. Now strip out all the unnecessary text - the > class=, card=, chip=, rev=, hdr=, extra spaces... something like: > > mpt0@pci2:5:0: 010000 34358086 00301000 08 00 > mpt1@pci2:5:1: 010000 34358086 00301000 08 00 > em0@pci3:4:0: 020000 10798086 10798086 03 00 > em1@pci3:4:1: 020000 10798086 10798086 03 00 > > ~$ cat pciconf-stripped | wc -c > 899 > > We've nearly halved the size of the information. Now it's still in > ASCII, so you could further shave bits off by converting that to binary > if you wanted to... > > > With that amount of information, you'd probably be more inclined to want > to use HTTP POST than HTTP GET. A quick glance suggests libfetch(3) > doesn't support this; I haven't looked at the code enough to see if > adding support for it would be trivial or not. > 899 bytes * (10^7) = 8.37258995 gigabytes... Remember... Once this code is pushed out to hosts you can't change it. 10 years from now we'll still have hosts sending in old data.... What was wrong with my netcat idea? uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org 1234 It's one, short, line of code and you know exactly what it's doing. Simple, Easy, Done. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 02:03:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3242D16A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB1543D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:03:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 09:59:05 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="578683298:sNHT2353040478" Message-ID: <44D2A9BF.7070007@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:58:23 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:03:47 -0000 On 4/08/2006 11:44 AM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > 899 bytes * (10^7) = 8.37258995 gigabytes... Remember... Once this > code is pushed out to hosts you can't change it. 10 years from now > we'll still have hosts sending in old data.... What was wrong with my > netcat idea? > > uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org 1234 > > It's one, short, line of code and you know exactly what it's doing. > Simple, Easy, Done. Part of the idea I mentioned earlier was using a hash of this information... so the first time you send it through, you generate a hash and store it... then in future you can iterate over the hardware list, hash it, compare it against your stored hash, and only send if the hardware inventory has changed... Not everywhere has unrestricted access out to the Internet via whatever port they want... I know of many sites that only allow HTTP, and only via a proxy... I guess there's two different goals here... the uname -mr gives vendors an idea of what install base is out there when they're considering developing drivers/platform support... the hardware inventory gives vendors, developers and users an idea of what existing hardware is in use... ... if someone could bring up a list and find out that 500,000 people were using such-and-such a driver, it may influence the decision as to whether or not to update said driver when architectural changes are being made that require updates to the drivers... instead of the current system of sending an email out and hoping the appropriate users spot it on the appropriate mailing list and pipe up... -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 02:05:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB216A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F243D5C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1274328nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:05:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FG9Gqco+XM42WxGMWUB6gB9ov4vo5rDVb+2ecGmTCOiZZf6BK4ndcfLY6JXO+MJApdxpq6cy1SBwoeL+Duu8+vhB8N8R4A4NURsz9M4+BnJDoRRmYW0HKk9Qu8M5kSAeLaFsd1fgMGblfu42CLNtI1gdSXyDP1bBg+KhovqQ8D8= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr1370394hud; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:05:37 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Jeff Molofee" In-Reply-To: <44D2A2B5.6040500@cruzinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060803215556.A51AF16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> <44D2A2B5.6040500@cruzinternet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vidcontrol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:05:41 -0000 On 8/3/06, Jeff Molofee wrote: > I've noticed an odd problem when I set allscreens_flags="MODE_282". If I > set this in rc.conf, when I reboot my machine, the minute GDM comes up, > I can see black on the top half of my screen, overwriting everything > else on the screen. As I move the mouse, the black lines overwrite more > of the screen. I can also see a very tiny cursor moving in the black. > What this looks like to me, is that part of the console screen memory is > overwriting the screen. Is there a fix for this or is this a known > problem? If I disable the allscreens_flags in rc.conf, boot normally, > switch to a console CTLR_ALT-F1from within Gnome then run vidcontrol > MODE_282 then switch back everything is fine... no corruption. > Sounds like a problem with the video card.... anyhow... file a problem report: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 02:10:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD7016A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771F543D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 02:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1275428nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pvLRUgeEXYNel0S01j1WPXxJnk6OWe3Kc9Y2t40gNmifSlwuFx4Alr+kpeOk84coNM0vDjYUeaF5SL1V8mnf/jQSqc2Ovb2oezvVXyZ0QeLqvAz10Js0zE3etk0aw8P5p/0SC2P57OI6Ox3XV6rFwnmkiffdQdUslx8rmt2mwpo= Received: by 10.78.147.3 with SMTP id u3mr1365556hud; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:10:29 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Antony Mawer" In-Reply-To: <44D2A9BF.7070007@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> <44D2A9BF.7070007@mawer.org> Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:10:31 -0000 On 8/3/06, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 4/08/2006 11:44 AM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > 899 bytes * (10^7) = 8.37258995 gigabytes... Remember... Once this > > code is pushed out to hosts you can't change it. 10 years from now > > we'll still have hosts sending in old data.... What was wrong with my > > netcat idea? > > > > uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org 1234 > > > > It's one, short, line of code and you know exactly what it's doing. > > Simple, Easy, Done. > > Part of the idea I mentioned earlier was using a hash of this > information... so the first time you send it through, you generate a > hash and store it... then in future you can iterate over the hardware > list, hash it, compare it against your stored hash, and only send if the > hardware inventory has changed... > > Not everywhere has unrestricted access out to the Internet via whatever > port they want... I know of many sites that only allow HTTP, and only > via a proxy... > Ok how about: uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org 80 Wow, that was easy! :-) -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 03:14:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3516A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 03:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3248243D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 03:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k743EDd8023036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:14:14 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id k743EBK6050609; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:14:11 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:14:11 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd@hub.org In-reply-to: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> (message from User Freebsd on Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT)) References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:14:19 -0000 > pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a string > that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to be > done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell > programming? Why not doing the parsing on the server? Is there a limit on the size of an HTTP GET request? If not, the output of pciconf -v can fit in one single request, done. And limiting the number of requests, you also limit the amount of data xfered. I'd also go for: pciconf -l | sed s/\ /+/g | sed s/\ /%09/g| sed s/@/%40/g | sed s/:/%3a/g| sed s/=/%3d/g and you get lines like: hostb0%40pci0%3a0%3a0%3a%09class%3d0x060000+card%3d0x341a8086+chip%3d0x254c8086+rev%3d0x01+hdr%3d0x00 none0%40pci0%3a0%3a1%3a%09class%3d0xff0000+card%3d0x341a8086+chip%3d0x25418086+rev%3d0x01+hdr%3d0x00 That are almost completely URL encoded. Remains to replace the newline into %0d, and you are done. Result is one line that is around 2000 characters. olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 01:57:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7962316A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: from web51604.mail.yahoo.com (web51604.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E066943D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 01:57:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 10896 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 01:57:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HLJgWggwbVoaWTyJ34jQ3Qpegh8e9mo5dJ7B2cWxq8osA2BA8ACCCrsM7trkKs5SYA5iEVgYIZrlKtKiiKSBHDUQJLgwxo3xMZuSocXM2Amh/erlh+x7hbZdnQI13EMeQXd96g7ay7HlWAwNATN+ZK0afCocIf04Cs2wriUaOOc= ; Message-ID: <20060804015719.10894.qmail@web51604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.23.237.140] by web51604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:57:19 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:28:38 +0000 Cc: Subject: fire_saver while inside kde??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:57:20 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to run the console screen saver (fire_saver.ko) while inside kde?? I find it cool to always have that screensaver Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 03:31:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FD816A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 03:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B29043D78 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 03:31:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6503B291B0D; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:31:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66208-08; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 03:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78884291B05; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:31:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 8A3CC5C7BC; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:31:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FB039FF3; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:31:12 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 00:31:12 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> Message-ID: <20060804001908.B25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:31:20 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > All of the expanded 'vendor', 'device', 'class' and 'subclass' information is > present in the non -v version of the command output. The numbers shown > earlier can be used to derive the text information: > > class=0x010400 > determines the class/subclass lines, using the table from here: > http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 > > card=0xc0351044 chip=0xa5111044 > these make up the vendor and device lines, using the list in > /usr/share/misc/pci_vendors (which is derived from the PCIDEVS.TXT > listing). > > The last 4 hex digits of the card and chip lines are the vendor ID > while the first 4 are the device ID. The card is often given by > the vendor, while the chip identifies the actual part it uses to > implement functionality. For instance, a Netcomm ethernet NIC may > use a Realtek 8139 chip... so chip gives us the fact it's > essentially a generic Realtek chipset, while the card tells us the > vendor who manufactured the card & perhaps their name for it. > > In short, there's no reason to have to transmit all the text names back to > any server -- this can all be resolved at the server end, 'k, looking at the above, and comparing it to what I'm getting from pciconf -l, I'm missing something ... namely: none8@pci2:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 Translates to: none8@pci2:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet But, the last 4 hex of card/chip aren't teh same ... oh, wait, re-reading what you stated, is it safe to assume that chip= can be ignored ... nope, that doesn't follow either ... but I think I see it ... For the above, vendor *should* be Aopen Inc, not Realtek Semiconductor ... 'k, so, for the above: card=0x0027a0a0 - Aopen Inc (A0A0) chip=0x813910ec - Realtek Semiconductor (10EC) - 8139 RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter (8139) And the 0027 is actually meaningless in this case ... So, what I'm looking for is vendor->device, but in some card= cases, there won't be a 'Device' listed ... As to class= ... what table am I supposed to be seeing at that URL? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 04:02:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AD416A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from popeye1.ggamaur.net (popeye1.ggamaur.net [213.160.40.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A685E43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:02:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by popeye1.ggamaur.net (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) with ESMTP id k7442aEm014880 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:02:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BCA2E109 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:02:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atlantis.intranet Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlantis.intranet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BlVzSYIMeSuS for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:02:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mini.intranet (mini.intranet [10.0.0.17]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F892E05C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:02:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Benjamin Lutz To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:02:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-Face: $Ov27?7*N,h60fIEfNJdb!m,@#4T/d; 1hw|W0zvsHM(a$Yn6BYQ0^SEEXvi8>D`|V*F"_+R 2@Aq>+mNb4`,'[[%z9v0Fa~]AD1}xQO3|>b.z&}l#R-_(P`?@Mz"kS; XC>Eti,i3>%@g?4f,\c7|Gh wb&ky$b2PJ^\0b83NkLsFKv|smL/cI4UD%Tu8alAD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1327891.zGBWxTohYJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608040602.29799.benlutz@datacomm.ch> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 213.160.40.60 Cc: Subject: IP broadcasts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:02:45 -0000 --nextPart1327891.zGBWxTohYJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I've been playing around with IP packets tonight, and I've noticed a peculi= ar=20 behaviour in FreeBSD that I can't explain. Can someone provide some insight? Specifically, I've been sending IP packets to broadcast addresses, once to= =20 10.0.0.255, which is the local subnet's broadcast address, and once to=20 255.255.255.255, which as I understand it, is a general broadcast address.= =20 The first broadcast (to 10.0.0.255) works, the second (to 255.255.255.255)= =20 doesn't. Looking at it with tcpdump on the sending machine, I see this: 05:46:52.057994 00:12:17:5a:b3:b6 > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4=20 (0x0800), length 136: 10.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.255: ip-proto-255 102 05:47:16.472315 00:12:17:5a:b3:b6 > 00:40:63:d9:a9:28, ethertype IPv4=20 (0x0800), length 136: 10.0.0.1 > 255.255.255.255: ip-proto-255 102 In other words, the packet to 10.0.0.255 is has a destination MAC address o= f=20 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, so all machines on the subnet receive it. The second=20 packet has the destination MAC of my gateway, so only that machine receives= =20 it, the other machines on the net don't see it (the ethernet uses a switch). Things work as expected when sending the packets from a Linux machine. Mayb= e=20 there's some socket option or sysctl I need to set? Cheers Benjamin --nextPart1327891.zGBWxTohYJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBE0sbVgShs4qbRdeQRAlLZAJ93RW5febIlktpNMia5Y6MiqhOSiACdGT26 kIsGlsmb8I+4/qXRwFaewqc= =RQL2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1327891.zGBWxTohYJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 04:07:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE1916A4E2 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC8D43D53 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:07:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2006 12:07:39 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="841092057:sNHT4656023508" Message-ID: <44D2C802.9040704@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:07:30 +1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44D09F46.6020300@dial.pipex.com> <44D0F2FE.9020507@dial.pipex.com> <20060802203604.A6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D153D0.9000304@webanoide.org> <87wt9qzh2i.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060803011653.G6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D1A866.2030206@mawer.org> <20060803154705.X6529@ganymede.hub.org> <44D29220.1000807@mawer.org> <20060804001908.B25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060804001908.B25268@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:07:44 -0000 On 4/08/2006 1:31 PM, User Freebsd wrote: > 'k, looking at the above, and comparing it to what I'm getting from > pciconf -l, I'm missing something ... namely: > > none8@pci2:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > > Translates to: > > none8@pci2:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x0027a0a0 chip=0x813910ec > rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > > But, the last 4 hex of card/chip aren't teh same ... oh, wait, > re-reading what you stated, is it safe to assume that chip= can be > ignored ... nope, that doesn't follow either ... but I think I see it ... Looking through src/usr.sbin/pciconf/pciconf.c, it looks as though pciconf only translates the chip= for what it displays. The DOS-based PCI identification code that I've worked with in the past typically referred "chip" as "device", and "card" as "sub-device"... Internally, pciconf uses the same references (snipped from the printf statement): (p->pc_subdevice << 16) | p->pc_subvendor, (p->pc_device << 16) | p->pc_vendor, The aforementioned DOS utilities used to display lookups for both (where appropriate); I vaguely recall coming to the conclusion that the sub-device bit was not mandatory, but someone with more knowledge of the ins and outs of the PCI specs may be able to state that more definitively... In short, the "chip" field from pciconf looks like the most important one.. the rev/hdr fields are less important for our needs - as far as I'm aware they're generally used to denominate hardware revisions, so as vendors revise their PCB layouts and components, they can be easily differentiate between them -- this is most important when you're a driver, trying to figure out what how you should treat a specific device... The card one may fall into a "nice-to-know" but not necessary.. > For the above, vendor *should* be Aopen Inc, not Realtek Semiconductor ... > > 'k, so, for the above: > > card=0x0027a0a0 > - Aopen Inc (A0A0) > > chip=0x813910ec > - Realtek Semiconductor (10EC) > - 8139 RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter (8139) > > And the 0027 is actually meaningless in this case ... So in your case, it's a Realtek 8139 adapter, most likely as part of an AOpen motherboard or add-in card... > So, what I'm looking for is vendor->device, but in some card= cases, > there won't be a 'Device' listed ... > > As to class= ... what table am I supposed to be seeing at that URL? The class= line is a combination of two fields (the same as chip and card are a combination of vendor and device fields) -- the class, and subclass, of the device. The URL http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pci.c#L1340 shows the C source for this table that's used to match them up... for instance: CLASS SUBCLASS DESCRIPTION {PCIC_NETWORK, -1, "network"}, {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_ETHERNET, "ethernet"}, {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_TOKENRING, "token ring"}, {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_FDDI, "fddi"}, {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_ATM, "ATM"}, {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_ISDN, "ISDN"}, The first line of the above defines the "network" device class; then it defines several of the sub-classes of class "network"... ethernet, token ring, etc. These are defined here: http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/pci/pcireg.h#L218 So this line: {PCIC_NETWORK, PCIS_NETWORK_ETHERNET, "ethernet"}, actually reads: {0x02, 0x00, "ethernet"}, So our class line: class=0x020000 Is made up of 2 hex digits for the device class, and 4 hex digits for the device sub-class... Savvy? ;-) -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 05:06:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAFE16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from backyard1454-nospam@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3256D43D64 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:06:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from backyard1454-nospam@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81431 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 05:06:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bDEYzNspGvrHtOD7s9nM9pTxa5hiRHBjtuiaAXTKcRe/dk6pSntLYQbXRQj35ZVOFM2/tUsp/PM6S/mGLiscbIoAU0biKlgz+V3hv+ktSZ0wMQ33xfYm1t/WteYzvmKuosYJdcW6Z93gPZB7FhiHnliTXf48jFtCm/3DbJIyirw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.67?) (mckeon?brian@sbcglobal.net@75.25.98.170 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 05:06:07 -0000 Message-ID: <44D2D36C.7000108@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:56:12 -0400 From: Brian McKeon User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060804001011.17781.qmail@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060803211935.S25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060803211935.S25268@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Boris Samorodov , backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: backyard1454-nospam@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:06:15 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any >> centralized fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to >> choose to do something is tracked or monitored; because it is no >> longer a freedom. Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. > > > none of your freedoms will be in any way infringed upon with what is > proposed ... you will always have the freedom to disable the reporting > and not particpate *shrug* > >> I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have >> unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask >> them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we >> call the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get >> people in this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I >> think giving them numbers of systems will just be ignored. But >> getting 1000 emails a day in multiple languages from around the world >> will get them thinking maybe its worth at least releasing the specs >> just to shut these people up. > > > The above is an "active campaign", which you will generally find > doesn't yield anything, unfortunately, since its more work then 99.9% > of the people will feel compelled to do ... > > As ScottL said in one of his emails, in a form ... We don't want to > piss Adaptec off, which a "letter writing campaign" would ... what we > want to do is give Adaptec something to think about in terms of > 'market missed' ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . > scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > sometimes I think with my head not up in the air. I see you point. I guess I'll try to give them more of a market to be concered about. If I can convince the girls next door its simple and friendly to USE, then I think anybody can be convinced, Good luck with the project, maybe I'll find myself on the list someday wish me luck with this desktopbsd thiing; I'm in short supply of it lately and it will be coming in handy... -brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 05:43:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DB316A4E1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A197C43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:43:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.8]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3G00KZKL873A70@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:43:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3G00HJJL87CXJ0@pd2mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3G00L44L86E1Y0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3281 invoked from network); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:43:12 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:43:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 22:43:12 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <100416c30608031503n721c1583labb86a1e8abe7978@mail.gmail.com> To: John Rogers Message-id: <44D2DE70.4020002@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <100416c30608031503n721c1583labb86a1e8abe7978@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:43:21 -0000 John Rogers wrote: > Installing new kernel into /boot/GENERIC... done. > Moving /boot/kernel to /boot/kernel.old... done. > Moving /boot/GENERIC to /boot/kernel... done. > Removing schg flag from existing files... > > Then my connection to the server froze and I found the server rebooted > itself. After login I found it was 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE > #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006. > > Don't know why it rebooted, and my concern it: had it finished > upgrading? Probably not. > I looked into the upgrade.sh and found it should continue > working on files referred in old-index, new-index-nonkern, new-index. > However none of these files were found in the directory. Also I am > worried whether the schg flags were recovered. How can I check these? Sounds like a generic case of 'system crashed and recently created files weren't written to disk yet'. I'm really suspicious of the hardware here, but I'd suggest 1. mv /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.new 2. mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel 3. reboot (back into 6.0-RELEASE) 4. Run the script again and hope that it manages to finish installing everything this time. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 06:14:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B78016A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCBC43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n15so1328762nfc for ; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=VZ8+SlRVVMWH636BYPjMKUv6P05Bx1VZh1YpfgAsdqJ15tDQp1UeccGhVx/neAWATl7xAL+lW2mXC9TljcHCRgZBMYd52uemn8jP2cIIrWGM6ju/wGPEhC8oqTOE1V253eKnOK/W8E2KnzIztIQiKbUr/BH0m0O0s7ixPpuavM4= Received: by 10.78.175.8 with SMTP id x8mr1424096hue; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 23:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.14 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <463aea570608032314gf328f58v4b01e4c6d9351ca4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:44:46 +0530 From: Gobbledegeek To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: deleted /var/db/pkg, now what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:14:48 -0000 I rebuilt the pkgdb.db but all the other files are gone... Now portupgrade thinks no packages are installed. gnome-upgrade.sh aborts because it cannot handle 'nilclass' string. Any tips to get back my list of installed packages? -- Rgrds GobbledeGeek [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 06:22:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C19F16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B5E43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:22:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ABabiy@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.232]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3G000QCMYLXX80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J3G004RXMYLMDM0@pd5mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s01060013d45e14da.vs.shawcable.net ([70.71.1.152]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3G0010RMYL4OW0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:26:16 -0700 From: Andriy Babiy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200608040026.16504.ABabiy@shaw.ca> Organization: home MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Subject: ftpd configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:22:57 -0000 I wanted to set the user default directory chroot'ed for ftp-session. So, I created user/group: "user1/group1", and wrote the following lines to the configuration fles: - /etc/ftpusers: user1:group1 allow chroot - /etc/ftpchroot user1:group1 allow - /etc/ftpd.conf chroot allow /usr/home/user1/FTP_DIR I successfully logged in to the ftp as a "user1", and then used "pwd" and got: /usr/home/user1 So, I logged in as a real user, without "chroot". I would highly appreciate, if someone explained me what was wrong with my configuration. The home directory and below are with "ugo=rwx" access rights. I use FreeBSD 6.1. Many thanks to all! Andriy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 06:38:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C6816A4DA; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan@fafoe.narf.at) Received: from viefep13-int.chello.at (viefep13-int.chello.at [213.46.255.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88F43D46; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:38:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefan@fafoe.narf.at) Received: from wombat.fafoe.narf.at ([213.47.85.26]) by viefep13-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060804063830.EYGM6897.viefep13-int.chello.at@wombat.fafoe.narf.at>; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:38:30 +0200 Received: by wombat.fafoe.narf.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD063BC7E; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:38:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:38:39 +0200 From: Stefan Farfeleder To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20060803213839.GH33267@wombat.fafoe.narf.at> Mail-Followup-To: Mikhail Teterin , standards@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <200608031547.34386.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200608031547.34386.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: standards@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conundrum: _C99_SOURCE vs. sigset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:38:34 -0000 On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:47:34PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I'm trying to compile a program, which uses threads and has its own daemon > global variable. > > The variable's declaration results in an error: > > recsnap.C:50: error: `RTRString daemon' redeclared as different kind of symbol > /usr/include/stdlib.h:252: error: previous declaration of `int daemon(int, > int)' > > The daemon()'s declaration in stdlib.h can be turned off by declaring either > _C99_SOURCE or _ANSI_SOURCE. Unfortunately, both of these defines also turn > off the declaration of sigset_t and fd_set: > > /usr/include/pthread.h:233: error: expected `,' or `...' before '*' token > .../include/rtr/selectni.h:129: error: `fd_set' does not name a type > > Can this be solved -- without modifying the vendor's code? Thanks! Try -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200112. The macro _C99_SOURCE is for pure C99 code and _ANSI_SOURCE for C90 code. Both don't include the header. Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 08:12:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4D616A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from mail01.solnet.ch (mail01.solnet.ch [212.101.4.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504A743D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:12:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from mail01.solnet.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.solnet.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10133-01-78 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [82.220.17.23]) by mail01.solnet.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E4662728 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:12:43 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <44D3017B.2090904@bsdunix.ch> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:12:43 +0200 From: Thomas User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Macintosh/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail01.solnet.ch X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'Subject': Subject: mod_rewrite does not work with apache13-modssl and enabled modaccel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:12:47 -0000 Hello I compiled apache13-modssl with WITH_APACHE_MODACCEL=YES. With enabled MODACCEL my mod_rewrite does not work as expected. I get this error message: [error] [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] attempt to make remote request from mod_rewrite without proxy enabled: proxy:http://mysite/foobar/traffic System: Freebsd 4.11 Apache13-modssl port from 1. August 2006 ssl_config.include: ProxyRequests Off RewriteRule ^/login/foobar/monitor/(.*)$ http://mysite/foobar/traffic/$1 [P,L] ProxyPassReverse /login/foobar/monitor/ http://mysite/foobar/traffic/ I rebuilded apache13-modssl without MODACCEL and then everything works perfectly. So i doubt that's a config error. Is this a known behavior? regards, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 09:29:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D42716A4EE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACAD43D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:29:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k749TP09016181; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:29:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v0.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k749TP09016181 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k749TP09016181 Message-ID: <44D3136F.6010608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:29:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Lutz References: <200608040602.29799.benlutz@datacomm.ch> In-Reply-To: <200608040602.29799.benlutz@datacomm.ch> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6C51B2D2DFF09EFFDAF6FBDF" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:29:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1634/Wed Aug 2 23:32:49 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP broadcasts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:29:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6C51B2D2DFF09EFFDAF6FBDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Benjamin Lutz wrote: > Specifically, I've been sending IP packets to broadcast addresses, once= to=20 > 10.0.0.255, which is the local subnet's broadcast address, and once to = > 255.255.255.255, which as I understand it, is a general broadcast addre= ss.=20 > The first broadcast (to 10.0.0.255) works, the second (to 255.255.255.2= 55)=20 > doesn't. Hey, if you're trying to ping the whole internet, then it's only logical = to send the packet out via the default gateway... Seriously though, this is a difference in routing implementations. FreeBSD seems to be treating the 255.255.255.255 address just like any other IP address, matching it against the networks and masks it has in its routing table, and from that deducing that the default route is the appropriate destination. Linux on the other hand seems to have code to special case the all-ones address. Or perhaps it simply recognises 255.255.255.255 as the broadcast= address complementary to the default network, which is 0.0.0.0/0. I have no idea if the all-ones IP address is meant to be special or not. It wouldn't surprise me if treating it that way was a Linux specific extension. The sort of case where this sort of thing would be appropriat= e -- such as dhcp clients needing to communicate on a network before knowin= g what the local IP network number is -- is handled perfectly well under FreeBSD using layer 2 (ethernet) broadcasts, plus there is already a reserved IP range specifically intended for contacting DHCP severs in situations where layer 2 alone won't cut it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6C51B2D2DFF09EFFDAF6FBDF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0xN18Mjk52CukIwRCD2eAJ9hlJdVcRH+su2CZIQhLabfXOtH9ACgkXsR 3QIhmG7hve1/DfKuz1vwF88= =+zdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6C51B2D2DFF09EFFDAF6FBDF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 09:38:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260716A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [213.238.47.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC9643D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:38:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: (from stb@koef.zs64.net) (authenticated) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k749c5g3094430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:38:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0608031619r151101a9y6fcc7fb9b44d704e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8b4c81f0608031619r151101a9y6fcc7fb9b44d704e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:38:44 +0200 To: "Henry Lenzi" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can you install packages from STABLE in RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:38:18 -0000 Am 04.08.2006 um 01:19 schrieb Henry Lenzi: > Hi -- > > I'm currently running 6.0-SECURITY > My portsnap tells me of a bunch of ports that have updates that, when > I head directly for an ftp site, I find on a STABLE tree (like > kde-3.5.3 - actually 3.5.2 until yesterday) > > For instance, ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/ > packages-6.0-release/x11/ > lists kde-3.4.2.tbz > > Can I install these on RELEASE? If not, why does portsnap even > suggest them? The ports tree has no branches (like RELENG_5 or RELENG_6). Portsnap get's you the current state of the ports tree into /usr/ports. You can install them from that source on a supported FreeBSD release (like 6.0-pX == RELENG_6_0), using the usual ways to build ports (cd / usr/ports/xxx/yyy; make install or portinstall). When a release is built, the binary packages that go onto the CDs are built from the then-current ports tree. The FTP servers carry what got included in the CDs, so those packages will never change. The stable packages on the FTP servers are regularly built with the current ports tree. Since they are built on a stable release (FreeBSD-6-stable == RELENG_6), they might work on an early release, but that is not guaranteed. If you want to use these packages, you should have a fairly recent stable release. To sum it up: you can install/upgrade the ports, but you cannot install the stable packages on a security release. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 10:16:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0471416A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CFA43D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8wjI-0000qO-Vo; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:16:32 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8wjI-0006LS-Ci; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <44D31E80.4040301@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:16:32 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:16:36 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >Why not doing the parsing on the server? > >Is there a limit on the size of an HTTP GET request? > Yes. Something like 4k springs to mind. That's what POST is for and would be easy in Perl, but then we can't use that :-( --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 10:50:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E2616A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535FC43D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74AnO6c006851; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:49:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v0.5.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k74AnO6c006851 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k74AnO6c006851 Message-ID: <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:49:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD175CCA8747748C710DD8B16" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:49:44 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1634/Wed Aug 2 23:32:49 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@hub.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:50:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD175CCA8747748C710DD8B16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olivier Nicole wrote: >> pciconf -lv needs to be parsed, this being the hard step, into a strin= g=20 >> that can be sent via HTTP ... this is the hard part because it has to = be=20 >> done as/in a shell script ... anyone out there *really* good at shell = >> programming? >=20 > Why not doing the parsing on the server? >=20 > Is there a limit on the size of an HTTP GET request? If not, the > output of pciconf -v can fit in one single request, done. >=20 > And limiting the number of requests, you also limit the amount of data > xfered. >=20 > I'd also go for: >=20 > pciconf -l | sed s/\ /+/g | sed s/\ /%09/g| sed s/@/%40/g | sed s/:/%= 3a/g| sed s/=3D/%3d/g >=20 > and you get lines like: >=20 > hostb0%40pci0%3a0%3a0%3a%09class%3d0x060000+card%3d0x341a8086+chip%3d0x= 254c8086+rev%3d0x01+hdr%3d0x00 > none0%40pci0%3a0%3a1%3a%09class%3d0xff0000+card%3d0x341a8086+chip%3d0x2= 5418086+rev%3d0x01+hdr%3d0x00 >=20 > That are almost completely URL encoded. Remains to replace the newline > into %0d, and you are done. Result is one line that is around 2000 > characters. This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI devices= ? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the system or e= ven how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort of memory or d= isk drives the system uses -- all of which would be important information tha= t might just persuade hardware manufacturers to provide more FreeBSD suppor= t. Surely a condensed version of /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. It's not just about how many machines there are that might use a particul= ar manufacturer's devices either, it's about how much money the users of those machines are prepared to spend. For instance, I could see that a manufacturer of, say, RAID controllers might well be more interested in providing FreeBSD support if they knew there was a pent up demand for usi= ng their models in top of the line servers rather than the same number of us= es based on cheaper, small scale kit. I could take two identical motherboar= ds stick 1GB of RAM, a single 40GB IDE drive and a low-spec single core proc= essor in one, and in the other I could have two dual core top of the range proc= essors, 8GB ECC RAM and a terabyte of storage using 15k rpm SAS drives. pciconf probably wouldn't distinguish between those two specifications. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD175CCA8747748C710DD8B16 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0yY08Mjk52CukIwRCFmTAJ9VwJ8FFmFYDAiLlYv9Hlsz/y3hHgCcDx2d TLREbjQE4sXPwFuH1YA5O34= =VmKf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD175CCA8747748C710DD8B16-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 10:59:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F99816A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler.brincheski@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4645E43D7B for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyler.brincheski@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so197660pyb for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:59:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:from; b=EancF36LMpNaOqYEqJZVV1x5VBOTxogmBVjNocigqh0iGEkCzxI76MyFbT/7nh7bc8simZB++Z8+Ie3GjpaVXcp1VS5oEn0o3OdGip5/03z2b0g/IUxHWCSTZYNeTEKsRhWnZ2SLPkIel9sGSnGc5Ps01LndrUAeJtc7qqUCA0o= Received: by 10.35.127.7 with SMTP id e7mr4779901pyn; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MACHINE01 ( [24.78.129.34]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id n78sm345251pyf.2006.08.04.03.59.12; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001401c6b7b5$06eac2d0$0a0fa8c0@MACHINE01> To: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:59:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 From: Tyler Brincheski Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Questions inregards to NATD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:59:24 -0000 Hello, I apologize for taking your time, howevr I was unable to find an = answer to my question inside the online documentation. I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 on P1 Super Socket 7 system (533 mhz.) = I have installed 2 Adaptec Ana-6944 cards, these cards have 4 ports on = each. I have a seperate D Link card, that is supported. My question = is, all the online documentation has indicated the usage for the natd = daemon is used for Network Address Translation, however it doesnt = indicate weather I can use all 8 ports ( 4 from each card) as LAN ports, = with the DLink's connection as the WAN port. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer me. Sincerely, Tyler Brincheski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 11:31:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933E016A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rottweilertje@rottnic.nl) Received: from rottnic.nl (rottnic.demon.nl [83.160.164.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAC543D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:31:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rottweilertje@rottnic.nl) Received: from [10.0.1.128] (unknown [10.0.1.128]) by rottnic.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CC3F42E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:31:43 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <880F0622-66A1-4701-9867-6A5995F509E5@rottnic.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Guido Demmenie Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:31:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: strange behavior webpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:31:45 -0000 Hello, I have a very strange problem with my served webpages. When I open the webpages from my server with my ibook, while connected to my wireless network, everything goes fine. But when I refresh a website or when Safari is not grabbing it from its cache the page returns corrupted. The page shown is a bunch of random characters. After each refresh the stream of charachters is changed. On my PC the page is still corrupted, but with a refresh the characters are still the same. When I open a terminal screen on my server and look at the file this happens: %less data/www/networkstats.html "data/www/networkstats.html" may be a binary file. See it anyway? and %file data/www/networkstats.html data/www/networkstats.html: data After some time (about a day or so) the file gets back to its normal state, being a html file and it is served well again. I thougth it would be a problem of my ibook, but when I connect to the website while using my wired network the problem does not occur. Also not when I am connected to a wireless network other than my own. Webpages served from my secure webserver don't get messed up, also dynamic pages (CGI/PHP) don't get messed up exept for the images that are on those pages. For my wireless connection I use a wireless PCI card (Netgear MA311 with latest firmware) on the serverside and the airport extreme from my ibook G4. The connection is WEP encrypted by standard FreeBSD modules. I already tried to use a different version of apache (currenty using apache-2.0.55_4), but it didn't fix the problem. I tried finding a useful error or things in my logfiles but I can't find anything. I suspect some of the drivers for my wireless device (wi) to corrupt the files, problem is that even if I chmod 000 a file it still gets corrupted. I use: FreeBSD 6.0 apache-2.0.55_4 some dmesg output: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Mar 8 19:48:39 CET 2006 CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz (2668.41-MHz 686-class CPU) wi0: mem 0xfafff000-0xfaffffff irq 21 at device 10.0 on pci1 wi0: [GIANT-LOCKED] wi0: using RF:PRISM2.5 MAC:ISL3874A(Mini-PCI) wi0: Intersil Firmware: Primary (1.1.1), Station (1.8.4) Can anyone help me on this, or does anybody has some kind of the same problems? cheers Guido Demmenie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 06:42:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA6016A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from renat@nursat.net) Received: from smtp.nursat.net (gemini.nursat.net [195.82.25.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A25743D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:42:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from renat@nursat.net) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on gemini X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.3.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Filter-1.3.3: Scanned Received: from rnurgaliev.nursat.net ([194.226.128.12] verified) by smtp.nursat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 13199844 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:42:00 +0600 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:41:54 +0600 From: "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.03) Professional Organization: CJSC "NURSAT" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:40:24 +0000 Cc: Subject: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:42:07 -0000 Hello! Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander into the future releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing and lightweight tool. It can be installed from ports, but what about disconnected PC's? Thanks a lot. With Best Regards, Renat S. Nurgaliyev Data Network Engineer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 11:59:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A1B16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBEB43D5A for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:59:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from levchenko.i@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so15518uge for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NXM4+CBqjvh+xdupG/oNJz+Q9abZ5+t3GCYUPMPCpF8r/O5fTJDvUUpXPXN0SCA8KY3QfuFfTNla+3uPNW77yxxfZbCAIvBg9CI1k5b1ttPBvrml+Y7tD1QbCGST2nrt2eqESLbHCqNx4HjDg2r0WcswumKshGeawF81+l3efds= Received: by 10.67.93.6 with SMTP id v6mr4275137ugl; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.239.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:59:00 +0300 From: "Ivan Levchenko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <463aea570608032314gf328f58v4b01e4c6d9351ca4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: deleted /var/db/pkg, now what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:59:02 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ivan Levchenko Date: Aug 4, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: deleted /var/db/pkg, now what? To: Gobbledegeek pkgdb -u (look for more info in man pkgdb) On 8/4/06, Gobbledegeek wrote: > I rebuilt the pkgdb.db but all the other files are gone... > Now portupgrade thinks no packages are installed. > gnome-upgrade.sh aborts because it cannot handle 'nilclass' string. > > Any tips to get back my list of installed packages? > > -- > Rgrds > GobbledeGeek > [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department levchenko.i@gmail.com ilevchenko@geeksforless.net -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department levchenko.i@gmail.com ilevchenko@geeksforless.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6F916A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from speechpro.ru (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A18543D7F for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:09:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from [192.168.2.26] (helo=sysadm.stc) by s1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1G8yUI-000BMy-CZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:09:10 +0400 Received: from localhost.stc ([127.0.0.1] helo=sysadm.stc) by sysadm.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G8yUe-0001fc-Nr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:09:32 +0400 Received: (from igorr@localhost) by sysadm.stc (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k74C9Wjx006423 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:09:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from igorr) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:09:32 +0400 From: Igor Robul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060804120932.GA6296@sysadm.stc> References: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:09:21 -0000 On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:41:54PM +0600, Renat S. Nurgaliyev wrote: > Hello! > > Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander into the future > releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing and lightweight tool. It can be > installed from ports, but what about disconnected PC's? Thanks a lot. You need free youself from "blue panel Norton Commander" syndrome :-) Also Midnight Commander is not lightweight tool because it needs many other packages to run. And dont forget MC & libraries it needs are under GPL license. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:14:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED46E16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F68543D6D for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:14:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442D11A4DA2; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4567B51B01; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:14:58 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" Message-ID: <20060804121457.GA7337@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:15:00 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:41:54PM +0600, Renat S. Nurgaliyev wrote: > Hello! >=20 > Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander into the future > releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing and lightweight tool. It= can be > installed from ports, but what about disconnected PC's? Thanks a lot. Sorry, this will not happen. Everyone has their favourite tools, and that's what ports are for. Kris --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0zpBWry0BWjoQKURAjVmAJ97mx5Q5WpX/TUp4NhABe2QNTviJwCfZhYj 8d7rN76DoV8EpBLHVzJ+Dr4= =1SzP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:21:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C58F16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B636543D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:21:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 22599 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 12:21:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.129.75]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Aug 2006 12:21:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:21:20 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: Tyler Brincheski Message-ID: <20060804142120.1bf45294@localhost> In-Reply-To: <001401c6b7b5$06eac2d0$0a0fa8c0@MACHINE01> References: <001401c6b7b5$06eac2d0$0a0fa8c0@MACHINE01> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2006-08-19.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_0KsAuayENn/TVKYrmXHgvjU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions inregards to NATD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:21:31 -0000 --Sig_0KsAuayENn/TVKYrmXHgvjU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tyler Brincheski wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 on P1 Super Socket 7 system (533 > mhz.) I have installed 2 Adaptec Ana-6944 cards, these cards have 4 > ports on each. I have a seperate D Link card, that is supported. My > question is, all the online documentation has indicated the usage for > the natd daemon is used for Network Address Translation, however it > doesnt indicate weather I can use all 8 ports ( 4 from each card) as > LAN ports, with the DLink's connection as the WAN port. Is this > possible? If you can configure all 8 ports with ifconfig, you shouldn't have any problems using them for NAT. If you want to use all internal ports in the same network, I suggest you only give on of them an IP address, configure it for NAT and then use if_bridge to connect it with the other ones. Otherwise you could run into routing problems. Note that you don't have to use natd for NAT, you can also use PF and safe some cpu time. If your system has other work to do and you have lots of connections, it could make a difference. Fabian --=20 http://www.fabiankeil.de/ --Sig_0KsAuayENn/TVKYrmXHgvjU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE0zvGjV8GA4rMKUQRAtWsAKC1RVpihhhz9KkdMe4idVGBJHXEaACdEroO PIPzAQtz6CBLX7LIc9M9gdc= =aTCo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_0KsAuayENn/TVKYrmXHgvjU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:40:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DE316A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from kim-out.schedom-europe.net (kim.schedom-europe.net [193.109.184.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A399043D5F for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: (qmail 27323 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 12:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kim.schedom-europe.net) (193.109.184.78) by kim.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 12:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22040 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 12:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (83.101.7.16) by kim.schedom-europe.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 12:26:54 -0000 From: Beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:26:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 X-Face: %*c?V7%A[c.}s2rI*TaRWm-[I-, ZLpBKmmC-@)J}KGbr)=a, TsXSA=:ArC(<=?utf-8?q?v=5C/=5F=25BaB=24K=0A=09=24=60E=7D6=7EyjIqu/SN=3A=24Pb=7DGngR+8=3D?= =?utf-8?q?dE=60?=)V~48zl6) =?utf-8?q?BhEtfQ2=3D=7ChScx=3Frn30d!QMd=3F=2E=60/hR!l+=0A=09x?=(]+zXesMf?'W[>46aPKMAAwd7eT{X_O9besb[u]'Y(DAe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> X-Antivirus: This mail has been scanned for viruses by schedom vof (http://www.dommel.com) Subject: pflog0 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:40:33 -0000 Hi all, Does pflog0 need to get an ip-address from dhcp ? From what I can see in=20 dmesg, pflog0 can't get one (vr0 does) but pflog0 seems to be up and runnin= g=20 (same for pf and pflogd). So how do I get an address for pflog0 (if needed) ? I'm using 6.1-STABLE. =46rom dmesg : [...] DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPNAK from 192.168.1.1 DHCPDISCOVER on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 bound to 192.168.1.100 -- renewal in 86400 seconds. DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 send_packet: Input/output error DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 send_packet: Input/output error DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 send_packet: Input/output error DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 send_packet: Input/output error DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 send_packet: Input/output error No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 vr0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::20c:76ff:fec2:2cb7%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.100 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:0c:76:c2:2c:b7 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active pflog0: flags=3D41 mtu 33208 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 Enabling pflogd =2E Aug 4 12:00:04 pflogd[310]: [priv]: msg PRIV_OPEN_LOG received Enabling pf. pf enabled [...] In my /etc/pf.conf I have : pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port { 67, 68 } The /var/db/dhclient.leases.pflog0 is an empty file, 0 bytes whereas=20 dhclient.leases.vr0 is 730 kb. I also have=20 ifconfig_pflog0=3D"DHCP"=20 in my /etc/rc.conf. Thanks for any help. Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:52:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F96116A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836D643D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:52:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:52:16 -0400 id 00056414.44D34300.0000E3CB Received: from Internal Mail-Server (206.210.89.202) by mx01 (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 08:48:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:52:19 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Beni Message-Id: <20060804085219.65154f16.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> References: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pflog0 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:52:18 -0000 In response to Beni : > Hi all, > > Does pflog0 need to get an ip-address from dhcp ? From what I can see in > dmesg, pflog0 can't get one (vr0 does) but pflog0 seems to be up and running > (same for pf and pflogd). > > So how do I get an address for pflog0 (if needed) ? I'm using 6.1-STABLE. I'm confused as to why you would _want_ to have an IP on pflog0. It's just a pseudo-interface for using tcpdump to view pflogd's activity. I can't see any benefit to assigning an IP to it. If you do have a legit need to do so, you're going to have to assign it a static. Since it's not a real interface, it has no network connectivity, and thus can't talk to any DHCP servers. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 12:56:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B95E16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA7AA43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 12925 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 12:56:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GWBbhZ2yaaTptAQY0M19Ai1/1HNvcJ7u5bkD5WZviRM+2d+XcGtl+/IGMRfgQTEusgYH5oElpj2RE3wy+ekLz5/0sJqiuGjZ+28GSZe5oTcKbcNbHEOTmGbm1WbHWT4g09HWQe4ReB1CTnhUOglNp0K8HlsoVhJ+08zkjWGzyqM= ; Message-ID: <20060804125650.12923.qmail@web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [221.217.236.164] by web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:56:50 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1687145019.20060804124154@nursat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:56:51 -0000 The ports and packages are also available from the CD-ROMs (either the first or the second). -- Bryan "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" wrote: Hello! Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander into the future releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing and lightweight tool. It can be installed from ports, but what about disconnected PC's? Thanks a lot. With Best Regards, Renat S. Nurgaliyev Data Network Engineer _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 13:01:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3372216A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906C743D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8zId-00083Q-Lz; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:01:11 +0100 Received: from [82.41.35.166] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8zIc-0002ho-Uo; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:01:11 +0100 Message-ID: <44D34516.6010706@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:01:10 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beni References: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> In-Reply-To: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pflog0 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:01:14 -0000 Beni wrote: >Hi all, > >Does pflog0 need to get an ip-address from dhcp ? From what I can see in >dmesg, pflog0 can't get one (vr0 does) but pflog0 seems to be up and running >(same for pf and pflogd). > >So how do I get an address for pflog0 (if needed) ? I'm using 6.1-STABLE. > >From dmesg : > >[...] >DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 >DHCPNAK from 192.168.1.1 >DHCPDISCOVER on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 >DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1 >DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 >DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 >bound to 192.168.1.100 -- renewal in 86400 seconds. >DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 >send_packet: Input/output error >DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 >send_packet: Input/output error >DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 >send_packet: Input/output error >DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18 >send_packet: Input/output error >DHCPDISCOVER on pflog0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 >send_packet: Input/output error >No DHCPOFFERS received. >No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. > >lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::20c:76ff:fec2:2cb7%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 192.168.1.100 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:0c:76:c2:2c:b7 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active >pflog0: flags=41 mtu 33208 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 >Enabling pflogd >. >Aug 4 12:00:04 pflogd[310]: [priv]: msg PRIV_OPEN_LOG received >Enabling pf. >pf enabled >[...] > > >In my /etc/pf.conf I have : >pass in quick on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port { 67, 68 } > >The /var/db/dhclient.leases.pflog0 is an empty file, 0 bytes whereas >dhclient.leases.vr0 is 730 kb. > > Disclaimer, I do not use pflog. But the manual page just says to do: # ifconfig pflog0 up # tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 No mention of IP addresses at all, let alone DHCP. >I also have >ifconfig_pflog0="DHCP" >in my /etc/rc.conf. > > > It's trying to get a DHCP address because you have told it to, right here. Try commenting this line out and rebooting (yes, there probably is a way to do it with rc scripts; feel free to investigate :-). Or just try "ifconfig pflog0 down; ifconfig pflog0 up" but it may try and remember your DHCP setting). --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 13:17:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E89D16A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C45543D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:17:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0D291AFC; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:17:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24969-04; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E5290C6D; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:17:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 5D1335CC08; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:17:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E3D5CBC5; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:17:16 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:17:16 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060804101513.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:17:11 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI > devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the > system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what > sort of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be > important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to > provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of > /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with "non-dmesg like" output ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of information ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 13:24:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E6C16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.mayo@sri.com) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0340B43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:24:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard.mayo@sri.com) Received: from stomper ([68.236.201.128]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0J3H00DDM6JK9TC0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:23:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:23:50 -0400 From: "Rich Mayo" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Message-id: Organization: SRI International MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B7A7.B1F4F500" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: richard.mayo@sri.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:24:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C6B7A7.B1F4F500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBSD from Scratch" project?? 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[220.239.234.69]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k74DXCpU004413; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:33:15 +1000 Message-ID: <44D34C9D.50308@mawer.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:33:17 -1000 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060804101513.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060804101513.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:33:37 -0000 On 4/08/2006 3:17 AM, User Freebsd wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI >> devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the >> system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what >> sort of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be >> important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers >> to provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of >> /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. > > /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had > *many* times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with "non-dmesg like" > output ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this > information that is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this > sort of information ... Some of this information can be gathered from the hw.* sysctl's, at least on 6.x... -Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 13:55:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26DA16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4941343D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:55:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l35so67820nfa for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GX/O5h04Zvleg3A9aWvzYQyIwm+dypHbJdWtpi+OxLQJcF25q0YuuQckLvVOVOLCckrDDqolUKTfKm6fMpaKEi9zXtd1wKXk1uHuQOImvUU36ha5zr7np+oxcV2c+UZNJddQXCzPIel+lkK8z8UKq4/hPzLkn5AqI1efL8Ed8Os= Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr5250311nfi; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.210.5 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990608040655l21b2c59cl4f6b3236ecb9934a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:55:44 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: richard.mayo@sri.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:55:46 -0000 On 8/4/06, Rich Mayo wrote: > Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? > More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBSD > from Scratch" project?? It depends on which aspect of "Linux from Scratch" is of interest to you. Building from source code is the standard way to update FreeBSD. By editing appropriate configuration files you can produce a fairly customized installation: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html describes the basics. You also have the option of doing a minimal install in the first place, and then adding additional pieces as you wish. Another approach to a customized FreeBSD is the nanobsd project, which has tools to let you build a stripped-down FreeBSD that is small enough to run from a floppy disk (although these days a usb flash drive is probably a more common target): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/nanobsd.html There are preconfigured nanobsd builds to make firewalls, routers, and other common tools. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:04:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2FB16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCA543D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:04:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74E48Lm010040; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:04:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k74E48Lm010040 Message-ID: <44D353D2.5060104@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:04:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard.mayo@sri.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig817C20764777AAFE221B7DAB" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:04:28 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1634/Wed Aug 2 23:32:49 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:04:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig817C20764777AAFE221B7DAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich Mayo wrote: > Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? > More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBS= D > from Scratch" project?? As I understand it, Linux from Scratch is all about building a Linux box without using the packaging etc. provided by any of the various Linux distributions. The challenge is to take all of the source code from all of the various development groups and integrate it into a working system yourself. The concept doesn't really map onto FreeBSD. The OS -- kernel, system libraries, standard applications -- is developed as a unified thing. There aren't really any alternate distributions in the same sense as there are for Linux, although projects like Freesbie, pfsense and DesktopBSD are heading in that sort of direction. Once you've downloaded the system sources, done a make buildworld etc., installed everything and rebooted[*], that's it: done. You've got a working FreeBSD system. Which kind of takes away the point of the 'from Scratch' idea. It's too easy... Third party software installed from ports is literally compiling from source code as Linux from Scratch advocates -- OK, software installed from ports does get registered in the pkg system, and it can be bundled up into a pkg tarball and copied to another machine to be installed there (which is exactly what the packages are on the FreeBSD FTP sites).= But that's just an aid to keeping things properly maintained. Either every FreeBSD box is 'FreeBSD from Scratch' or none of them are.=20 Cheers, Matthew [*] Actually, it's a little more involved than that, and of course you should follow the detailed instructions in the handbook. But that's the general gist. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig817C20764777AAFE221B7DAB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE01PX8Mjk52CukIwRCAEiAKCVGvDzVwNoMqo3DsmZyWK2kjOwbwCghFs7 5fpwQR769DKGrSrDS1JCRCg= =7WIK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig817C20764777AAFE221B7DAB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:12:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E0916A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jechaiz@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA2E43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:12:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jechaiz@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so42847wxd for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:12:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DDNwO3zH45X+2BzaJJay45k17vtlA0bvTdIwLyCPheWepsGLkqujelzPOseD/zm0235JJ7VWbeQ8pnEVZAGGYdxo702TOjlNgyJxIa4kR+VrGrQJp/nh2tMes8OsLXnjpMbVa9VOQvrMvBmAr3ddtv0velFoHrZt5Kc18Fz5oEA= Received: by 10.70.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr4846845wxb; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.124.3 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c8c9de30608040712m1d35358erd50a48b424dd7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:12:06 -0300 From: "Javier Echaiz" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: amarok lyrics: proxy and ruby? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:12:08 -0000 I have amarok-1.4.1 and works great... but i'm not able to fetch lyrics, I tried various ruby scripts but I got same results: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/http.rb:562:in `initialize': Invalid argument - connect(2) (Errno::EINVAL) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/http.rb:562:in `connect' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/timeout.rb:48:in `timeout' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/timeout.rb:76:in `timeout' ..... The same result occurred with the previous amarok version (I think it was 1.4.0a). Before that lyrics fetched ok. I'm behind a non transparent proxy, so probably the problem is http.rb don't knowing about my proxy. Should I try to hack the http.rb code to enable proxy? I'm asking here just in case someone shares this problem and knows a not so radical solution. :) Is there some place to define my proxy (besides env vars) for ruby? This would avoid problems for me in future ruby releases... Thanks in advance, Javier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:17:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811F16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27A543D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from jeeves.stilyagin.local (63-230-205-170.phnx.qwest.net [63.230.205.170]) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k74EHQDZ028086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:17:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by jeeves.stilyagin.local (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k74EHKRo001295; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:17:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 07:17:20 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: Beni Message-ID: <20060804141720.GA26435@jeeves.stilyagin.local> References: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200608041426.49448.beni@brinckman.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pflog0 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:17:31 -0000 On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:26:49PM +0200, Beni wrote: > Hi all, > > Does pflog0 need to get an ip-address from dhcp ? From what I can see in > dmesg, pflog0 can't get one (vr0 does) but pflog0 seems to be up and running > (same for pf and pflogd). > > So how do I get an address for pflog0 (if needed) ? I'm using 6.1-STABLE. You can't have an address on pflog0, and shouldn't be trying. It is just a pseudo device to let you use tcpdump in real time (or close to it) on what is logged by pflogd. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 13:00:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05E316A4EC for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33FBC43D62 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6454 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 13:00:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oBp6zFnpARlvuvFyzxdaaQEc8QVBbb30l9B+HIRporH3tDSPb/g0R5wDPA3yGOUCE7LKwUMJ03TBjCb75BB6lTbsvWfxCGWWREeZ9/zQ/HJThPDocaZXzQlEqiGTEWE1NJUtxC8BRF5rFkQZX08dJIEXgxpbfJ8E+MrOBqf/01k= ; Message-ID: <20060804130034.6452.qmail@web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [221.217.236.164] by web55103.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:00:34 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 06:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: Ivan Levchenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:25:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Fwd: deleted /var/db/pkg, now what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:00:40 -0000 >From "man portupgrade"... if you are rebuilding the package database, do a "pkgdb -fu" -- Bryan Ivan Levchenko wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ivan Levchenko Date: Aug 4, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: deleted /var/db/pkg, now what? To: Gobbledegeek pkgdb -u (look for more info in man pkgdb) On 8/4/06, Gobbledegeek wrote: > I rebuilt the pkgdb.db but all the other files are gone... > Now portupgrade thinks no packages are installed. > gnome-upgrade.sh aborts because it cannot handle 'nilclass' string. > > Any tips to get back my list of installed packages? > > -- > Rgrds > GobbledeGeek > [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department levchenko.i@gmail.com ilevchenko@geeksforless.net -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department levchenko.i@gmail.com ilevchenko@geeksforless.net _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:45:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D135516A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3329E43D6E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74Ejq6X019570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:45:57 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:45:52 -0400 Message-ID: <871wrw7e5b.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: nppdf.so: undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:45:58 -0000 Hi all, after upgrading firefox and acroread, I got this when I tried to use the plugin, LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: Undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc"] I have these lines in my /etc/libmap.conf, # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so Bug? Or my configuration fault? -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:46:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296F016A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@jwebmedia.com) Received: from mail.httpsolutions.com (mail.httpsolutions.com [63.246.27.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF56A43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@jwebmedia.com) Received: (qmail 23554 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2006 13:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.116?) (josh@jwebmedia.com@65.107.72.130) by mail.httpsolutions.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 13:44:41 -0000 Message-ID: <44D350DF.4070204@jwebmedia.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:51:27 -0400 From: Joshua Groboski User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060527) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010108070906010600040805" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: adjkerntz in a jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:46:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010108070906010600040805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I found your question on freebsd.org: Hello, I'm running apache in a jail on 6.0. Cron is sending me output like: adjkerntz[33405]: sysctl(put_wallclock): Operation not permitted Is this entry needed in a jail's crontab to run adjkerntz and if so what setting do i have to alter on the host system to make it work? Thanks. Dave. I am wondering if you got it answered and if you would share the solution with me. I am not very familiar with jail, but I've taken over a server that is using it. Needless to say, the reason I'm on this quest is to stop the fifty or so emails per day. -- Joshua Groboski Production Manager jWeb New Media Design http://www.jwebmedia.com phone: 636-928-3162 mobile: 314-853-8970 email: josh@jwebmedia.com --------------010108070906010600040805-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 14:59:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6127316A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9043D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:59:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E69CE99E75; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.89.191] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1G919H-0007Jh-00; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:59:39 +0200 Message-ID: <44D360DA.2000901@web.de> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:59:38 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: richard.mayo@sri.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:59:41 -0000 Rich Mayo wrote: > Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? > More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBSD > from Scratch" project?? You may find this interesting: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/index.html Jona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 15:35:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA36F16A4E9 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kees@jeremino.homeunix.net) Received: from jeremino.homeunix.net (jeremino.xs4all.nl [80.126.224.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3314143D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:35:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kees@jeremino.homeunix.net) Received: from jeremina.homeunix.net ([10.0.0.5]) by jeremino.homeunix.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G91iO-0000Yc-5G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:35:56 +0200 From: Kees Plonsz Organization: not organized To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:35:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <871wrw7e5b.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <871wrw7e5b.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> X-Face: CaO1,W}6nFAHBh)0w2(~^_CxY38(@5bf5B,[ILEWbA}Yt.SkfH=!fRAy-|)=?utf-8?q?X=26=3Fkn=3DPU=27b=27=0A=09O=2EF6e/=26Eh=27fZ=5BX=5FQ=3FG?=,48c,hQUfRp5Tn4r{/x2Ujs@-0iu:Yht8_; 0ys}RwtpHy%+k.TD(=?utf-8?q?=0A=09i=7EJ+5S?=,%,Qar+e!$}QT`\+$4SF8<4#@dCF6>A<#=$VD; LRwWWq>=?utf-8?q?dCB=3DyL/=26odewcmr=24o2=24=0A=09=24qUOA=5DkV=5D=3DzOnM=27i?="4ag2fvaJ,~4~h$-A\N]H%FJSPaT3FoZ; nS%o1[kA?U>=?utf-8?q?3T=7DFD+l4SJ=0A=09XId=3F?=,-D^1uDfURbfI+; 6oQ'D"VB|MJyRIw]Z%; |gX8A)#N<9j%6xAS< MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041735.55743.kees@jeremino.homeunix.net> X-recieved-from: 10.0.0.5 Subject: Re: nppdf.so: undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:35:57 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 16:45, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Hi all, after upgrading firefox and acroread, I got this when I tried > to use the plugin, > > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so > [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: Undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc"] > > I have these lines in my /etc/libmap.conf, > > # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase > [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] > libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so > > Bug? Or my configuration fault? > An "Undefined symbol" error is a shared object file is always a version mismatch. You have to update "nppdf.so" to match the version what the main programm expects. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 15:39:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CF816A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from relay.aplus.net (relay.aplus.net [216.55.128.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D5643DE1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:39:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@scottevil.com) Received: from [216.55.131.248] (helo=[192.168.191.103]) by relay.aplus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G91lN-000Dgs-FU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:39:01 -0700 Message-ID: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:38:58 -0700 From: Scott Oertel User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060804125650.12923.qmail@web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804125650.12923.qmail@web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:39:46 -0000 Bryan Bonifacio wrote: > The ports and packages are also available from the CD-ROMs (either the first or the second). > > -- > Bryan > > "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" wrote: Hello! > > Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander into the future > releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing and lightweight tool. It can be > installed from ports, but what about disconnected PC's? Thanks a lot. > > With Best Regards, > Renat S. Nurgaliyev > Data Network Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a better, more lightweight tool then mc? -Scott Oertel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:03:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4B416A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A7043D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:03:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([70.39.69.56]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060804160307.EJZD12036.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:03:07 -0400 From: "fbsd" To: , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:03:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:03:08 -0000 The install guide at www.a1poweruser.com may be what you are looking for. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Rich Mayo Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:24 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD from Scratch Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBSD from Scratch" project?? Rich Mayo SRI International 732-389-1003 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:13:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A632816A4E2 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22E2743D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95454 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 16:13:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FQmCvfNRDhPqJWjvGrP043xvb8jwgJbYXBtthqo55kRNfTUcLBPdK8qUjHFJQ9vEYoRuw4dU7ex+Tgq0/IQxv1aX1PhXcd/nMwyPeSJrPevPGNl8v+EUSrz3iPHyTKxXs/mIsywPlP2ZJFqHT51O/3q6b4vH1GUxpk9qioqLpbA= ; Message-ID: <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:13:18 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:13:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Scott Oertel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:13:19 -0000 --- Scott Oertel wrote: > Bryan Bonifacio wrote: > > The ports and packages are also available from the > CD-ROMs (either the first or the second). > > > > -- > > Bryan > > > > "Renat S. Nurgaliyev" wrote: > Hello! > > > > Please, please, please, include Midnight Commander > into the future > > releases of FreeBSD! It is extremely time-safing > and lightweight tool. It can be > > installed from ports, but what about disconnected > PC's? Thanks a lot. > > > > With Best Regards, > > Renat S. Nurgaliyev > > Data Network Engineer > > > > > > > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can > anyone recommend a > better, more lightweight tool then mc? > > > -Scott Oertel I would also like to hear recommendations for alternatives to mc that are light weight, work on the command line **and** are either included on the FreeBSD installation CD or would be appropriate additions to the installation CD. mc makes it much easier/faster to finish configuring the OS after a clean installation; so it's always the first application I pkg_add from the ftp site. It would be nice to have an application with mc's basic features on the installation CD, especially since immediate internet access cannot be assumed. Andrew L. 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I have tried FreeBSBDisk1 > - > same result. What am I doing wrong. Please HELP! > The boot order in BIOS - CD Rom first > I am trying to get familiar with UNIX OS What happens when you try to boot disk1? What do you see if you look at the CD from Windows? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:30:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0669C16A558 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5A43D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:30:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50282291B0D; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84328-01; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691A1290C6D; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 60C15352F6; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86B33DF1; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:06 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:30:06 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <44D34C9D.50308@mawer.org> Message-ID: <20060804132603.O25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060804101513.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> <44D34C9D.50308@mawer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:30:12 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > On 4/08/2006 3:17 AM, User Freebsd wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI devices? >>> pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the system or >>> even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort of memory >>> or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be important >>> information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to provide >>> more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of /var/run/dmesg.boot is >>> more to the point. >> >> /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* >> times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with "non-dmesg like" output ... >> if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that is >> consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of information >> ... > > Some of this information can be gathered from the hw.* sysctl's, at least on > 6.x... 'k, what I'm going to work on this weekend is a first pass at both the periodic script, and the receiving database ... I will post the script when completed, so that we can test what has been discussed so far, then we can look at adding on 'features' from there to pull in more information ... Fair enough? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:31:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A3A16A4E8 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5759843D53 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:31:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.1/8.13.4) id k74GVGMV091645; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:31:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:31:16 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.5-PRERELEASE X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: Scott Oertel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:31:19 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 04), Andrew Gould said: > --- Scott Oertel wrote: > > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a > > better, more lightweight tool then mc? > > I would also like to hear recommendations for alternatives to mc that > are light weight, work on the command line **and** are either > included on the FreeBSD installation CD or would be appropriate > additions to the installation CD. Actually, mc is pretty lightweight if you disable all the options. Note that the dependency on Perl isn't listed in OPTIONS, so you have to disable it manually in the port Makefile by setting WITHOUT_PERL_MODULES=yes -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:32:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4297716A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99C343D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:32:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 31753 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 16:32:35 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Aug 2006 16:32:35 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BEF2E2842A; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:32:34 -0400 (EDT) To: "Henry Lenzi" References: <8b4c81f0608031516r33f46a9fu326e724225e4eb6@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:32:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8b4c81f0608031516r33f46a9fu326e724225e4eb6@mail.gmail.com> (Henry Lenzi's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:16:43 -0300") Message-ID: <4464h8o40t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Squeak Smalltalk upgrading problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:32:36 -0000 "Henry Lenzi" writes: > Squeak version 3.8 is out, but ports have 3.6. > Does anyone know why? Presumably because the maintainer hasn't had time to update it yet. If you provide patches, that would probably help him get it faster... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:42:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19C416A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-26.mail.nl.demon.net (post-26.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80DF43D53 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:42:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rubenl@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axeldev.demon.nl ([83.160.42.116]:60038 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-26.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G92kJ-000D5P-Au; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:41:59 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Joshua Groboski'" , Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:42:46 +0200 Message-ID: <00f401c6b7e5$044173f0$030810ac@abubbletprpdda> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <44D350DF.4070204@jwebmedia.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Thread-Index: Aca31S5WLAnTFJKeSMmSoa1OCZ0wwwAD8EdQ Cc: Subject: RE: adjkerntz in a jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:42:01 -0000 Just remove it from the crontab. You don't need it in the jail. Regards, Ruben -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Groboski Sent: August 04, 2006 3:51 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: adjkerntz in a jail Hello, I found your question on freebsd.org: Hello, I'm running apache in a jail on 6.0. Cron is sending me output like: adjkerntz[33405]: sysctl(put_wallclock): Operation not permitted Is this entry needed in a jail's crontab to run adjkerntz and if so what setting do i have to alter on the host system to make it work? Thanks. Dave. I am wondering if you got it answered and if you would share the solution with me. I am not very familiar with jail, but I've taken over a server that is using it. Needless to say, the reason I'm on this quest is to stop the fifty or so emails per day. -- Joshua Groboski Production Manager jWeb New Media Design http://www.jwebmedia.com phone: 636-928-3162 mobile: 314-853-8970 email: josh@jwebmedia.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 08/03/2006 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:54:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE3716A57B for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: from outbound-mail-39.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-39.bluehost.com [70.98.111.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C904943D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: (qmail 19019 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2006 16:54:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box122.bluehost.com) (67.106.44.122) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 16:54:09 -0000 Received: from [216.113.237.29] (helo=[10.10.6.20]) by box122.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G92w4-0007Ly-GF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:54:08 -0600 Message-ID: <44D37BAE.7000800@dwinner.net> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:54:06 -0400 From: DW User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {731:box122.bluehost.com:dwinnern:dwinner.net} {sentby:smtp auth 216.113.237.29 authed with dwinner@dwinner.net} Subject: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:54:14 -0000 Hi all, Have a bit of an issue here: Just started using a .bash_logout script to handle doing my unison commands whenever I logout at end of day so I don't forget to sync my local homedir to my server before I head home. Works fine as long as I just do a "# exit" when I'm done. But more often than not, I do a "# sudo shutdown -p now". The problem with that though, is that the shutdown process runs as root, and just drops the system, and I'm never actually getting logged out as much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't run, and thus no unison unless I remember to run it manually first. Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? Thanks, DW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 16:55:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3727016A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster4.tls.net (ecluster4.tls.net [65.196.224.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE5C143D68 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:55:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 64943 invoked by uid 89); 4 Aug 2006 16:55:37 -0000 Received: from 204-8-14-139.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg%tls.net@204.8.14.139) by auth-ecluster4.tls.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 16:55:37 -0000 Message-ID: <44D37C05.7030007@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:55:33 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44CF8361.2090004@pixelhammer.com> <20060801204437.GG63872@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0D80A.2080703@pixelhammer.com> <20060802170543.GD58585@dan.emsphone.com> <44D0DF98.6080103@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <44D0DF98.6080103@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: piperd in top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:55:51 -0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Dan Nelson wrote: > >> In the last episode (Aug 02), DAve said: >> >> >>> Dan Nelson wrote: >>> >>>> In the last episode (Aug 01), DAve said: >>>> >>>>> We are in the process of getting a good hammering of spam. I've >>>>> been watching my mail gateways and they are keeping up well enough. >>>>> But looking at top I am seeing a lot of processes with state of >>>>> piperd. >>>>> >>>> Piperd means the process is waiting on a read from a pipe. You can >>>> use lsof to determine what process is at the other end of the pipe >>>> (run lsof, find your process, find the PIPE fd, then find the other >>>> process with the same 0xXXXXXXXX value). >>>> >>> Excellent, thank you. May I ask where you found that info. I looked >>> but came up empty. I'd like to know the meanings of some other states >>> not mentioned in the man pages. Such as nanslp, *GIANT, kqread, etc. >>> >> >> The only place wait states are documented is the source, basically. >> There are many hundreds of them. States with an asterisk are mutexes >> To find the code related to piperd: >> >> find /usr/src/sys -name "*.c" | xargs grep -n piperd >> >> >> > Or you could search the archive of questions@ where many of the more > common states where elucidated just a couple months ago and Giorgos > provided a good description of the UPPER CASE states. > > --Alex Thank you, the response from Eric Schuele was what I was looking for. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1324391+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2006/freebsd-questions/20060618.freebsd-questions DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:01:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FD016A4E7 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3FCE43D6E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:01:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28889 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 17:01:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gP9ONa8ovZLFcgBzC18/CRFlsoVKRR1ehQyLE2GRCHuL71/Pe7tFZFGO9TEhGQ1m013tMp92FmeQWv9P2EV2GcwPn+n4LgkJroa5vJW5G7GvH7IUojvxbJNFP4GtzJuxvUYwoF/0/C7uUo5IXMLgJqiltWYm9zVWVOStF2OqC8M= ; Message-ID: <20060804170140.28887.qmail@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:01:40 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: DW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D37BAE.7000800@dwinner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:01:44 -0000 --- DW wrote: > Hi all, > > Have a bit of an issue here: > > Just started using a .bash_logout script to handle > doing my unison > commands whenever I logout at end of day so I don't > forget to sync my > local homedir to my server before I head home. > > Works fine as long as I just do a "# exit" when I'm > done. > > But more often than not, I do a "# sudo shutdown -p > now". > > The problem with that though, is that the shutdown > process runs as root, > and just drops the system, and I'm never actually > getting logged out as > much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't run, > and thus no unison > unless I remember to run it manually first. > > Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? > > Thanks, > DW > Instead of using .bash_logout, why don't you create a script that runs all of your logout tasks and then ends with 'sudo shutdown -p now'? Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id CEBA416A4E6; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060804170200.CEBA416A4E6@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:02:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id D427E16A4E8; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20060804170200.D427E16A4E8@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:09:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F6316A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: from outbound-mail-44.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-44.bluehost.com [70.96.188.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CF3643D6B for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:09:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spock@dwinner.net) Received: (qmail 9655 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2006 17:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box122.bluehost.com) (67.106.44.122) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 17:08:57 -0000 Received: from [216.113.237.29] (helo=[10.10.6.20]) by box122.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1G93AO-00051D-V0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:08:57 -0600 Message-ID: <44D37F26.8080307@dwinner.net> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:08:54 -0400 From: DW User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060804170140.28887.qmail@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804170140.28887.qmail@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {731:box122.bluehost.com:dwinnern:dwinner.net} {sentby:smtp auth 216.113.237.29 authed with dwinner@dwinner.net} Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:09:05 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > --- DW wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> Have a bit of an issue here: >> >> Just started using a .bash_logout script to handle >> doing my unison >> commands whenever I logout at end of day so I don't >> forget to sync my >> local homedir to my server before I head home. >> >> Works fine as long as I just do a "# exit" when I'm >> done. >> >> But more often than not, I do a "# sudo shutdown -p >> now". >> >> The problem with that though, is that the shutdown >> process runs as root, >> and just drops the system, and I'm never actually >> getting logged out as >> much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't run, >> and thus no unison >> unless I remember to run it manually first. >> >> Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? >> >> Thanks, >> DW >> >> > > Instead of using .bash_logout, why don't you create a > script that runs all of your logout tasks and then > ends with 'sudo shutdown -p now'? > That's a good idea; I'll probably end up doing something like that; I was actually thinking of of just making bash aliases for reboot and shutdown, I guess that would do the same thing. The other problem though I just discovered is that that will work fine if I'm just in on a console, but if I'm running XFCE, and choose reboot or shutdown from xfce's exit menu, that won't work. If I can't find a way to get xfce to use my exit script(s), then I guess I'll just have to get into the habit of bailing out to a console first before shutting down. > Andrew L. Gould > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:18:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8D416A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35315.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35315.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF58B43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21812 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 17:18:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=thjmzJfrdj9fWsJDe3evLfR2F3wLfOCxCXwHf7r2mzyxqu6ppL7wUS1+aTKkOnGXcUw5iwAjpgcqLWxkRqkPmM4sO+988JV8eQ4j2CXnfCjYNjwneMyvTAEHJizKyJt0g6I8pM3gD3sWQX91eGqUK40Sb1W2D1OtFrmeJLePl3k= ; Message-ID: <20060804171858.21810.qmail@web35315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35315.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:18:58 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: DW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D37F26.8080307@dwinner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:18:59 -0000 --- DW wrote: > Andrew Gould wrote: > > --- DW wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Have a bit of an issue here: > >> > >> Just started using a .bash_logout script to > handle > >> doing my unison > >> commands whenever I logout at end of day so I > don't > >> forget to sync my > >> local homedir to my server before I head home. > >> > >> Works fine as long as I just do a "# exit" when > I'm > >> done. > >> > >> But more often than not, I do a "# sudo shutdown > -p > >> now". > >> > >> The problem with that though, is that the > shutdown > >> process runs as root, > >> and just drops the system, and I'm never actually > >> getting logged out as > >> much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't > run, > >> and thus no unison > >> unless I remember to run it manually first. > >> > >> Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> DW > >> > >> > > > > Instead of using .bash_logout, why don't you > create a > > script that runs all of your logout tasks and then > > ends with 'sudo shutdown -p now'? > > > That's a good idea; I'll probably end up doing > something like that; I > was actually thinking of of just making bash aliases > for reboot and > shutdown, I guess that would do the same thing. > The other problem though I just discovered is that > that will work fine > if I'm just in on a console, but if I'm running > XFCE, and choose reboot > or shutdown from xfce's exit menu, that won't work. > If I can't find a > way to get xfce to use my exit script(s), then I > guess I'll just have to > get into the habit of bailing out to a console first > before shutting down. > > > > Andrew L. Gould > > > > I've never examined the shutdown procedures used by windows managers; but the concept should be the same. You could write a script with your logout tasks followed by the command executed by XFCE's shutdown commands. (I'm sure someone on this list can address this part.) Next, create a button or menu option on XFCE's panel to execute your script from a terminal application. Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:29:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13B016A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F4D43D5C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55537D94324 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:29:27 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 6nPgsy3B/YzbkvXicHhFTEyBEkY4D4K9PkP7zNzjUhvz 1154712566 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC4D2C68 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:29:26 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:29:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44D360DA.2000901@web.de> In-Reply-To: <44D360DA.2000901@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041829.24697.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD from Scratch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:29:29 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 15:59, Jona Joachim wrote: > Rich Mayo wrote: > > Is anyone on the list familiar with the "Linux from Scratch" project? > > More to the point, is anybody aware if there is anything like a "FreeBSD > > from Scratch" project?? > > You may find this interesting: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/index >.html Although, it's nothing like "Linux from Scratch". IIRC it's a way of updating into alternate system partitions to avoid leaving old files behind after an update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 17:38:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F93816A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8272643D55 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3695D13CEB0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:38:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 60115 invoked by uid 88); 4 Aug 2006 19:38:24 +0200 Received: from 37.84-48-193.nextgentel.com (HELO [10.0.0.8]) (84.48.193.37) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; fre, 04 aug 2006 19:38:23 +0200 Message-ID: <44D38604.6020500@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:38:12 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060522) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DW References: <44D37BAE.7000800@dwinner.net> In-Reply-To: <44D37BAE.7000800@dwinner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0168FF9F9B3BF3EFACA3730D" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:38:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0168FF9F9B3BF3EFACA3730D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DW wrote: > Just started using a .bash_logout script to handle doing my unison : > The problem with that though, is that the shutdown process runs as root= , > and just drops the system, and I'm never actually getting logged out as= > much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't run, and thus no unison > unless I remember to run it manually first. >=20 > Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? At shutdown FreeBSD runs /etc/rc.shutdown. It seems that this script, by means of /etc/rc.subr, will iterate all the files in (among others) /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and call them with the "faststop" argument. Maybe you could just add a script in there? (Actually, only files with a "# PROVIDES" line are considered, it seems, so you should think about that). 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HDD Protocal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:55:11 -0000 Hello, Does anyone know where I can get the protocol used in SMART HDD diagnostics. My 3ware card puts out the following information and I am trying to write a program to decipher it into something more sensible. Cheers Richard Output from 3dm2.... S.M.A.R.T. 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He was merely looking for alternatives that were _as_lightweight_as_ mc. :) Personally, it'd be fantastic if mc was slated for inclusion. It's an absolute necessary install once I get a system up and running. -- Joseph Le-Phan [GPG key: 292E09A0] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:02:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0044F16A4EA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B89143D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:02:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74I2a3R021157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:02:36 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <871wrw7e5b.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <200608041735.55743.kees@jeremino.homeunix.net> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:02:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200608041735.55743.kees@jeremino.homeunix.net> (Kees Plonsz's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:35:55 +0200") Message-ID: <874pwspef8.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 Subject: Re: nppdf.so: undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:02:38 -0000 Kees Plonsz writes: > On Friday 04 August 2006 16:45, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: >> Hi all, after upgrading firefox and acroread, I got this when I tried >> to use the plugin, >> >> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so >> [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: Undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc"] >> >> I have these lines in my /etc/libmap.conf, >> >> # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase >> [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] >> libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so >> >> Bug? Or my configuration fault? >> > An "Undefined symbol" error is a shared object file is always a version mismatch. > You have to update "nppdf.so" to match the version what the main programm expects. > Likely so. I guess it should be upgraded with the acroread7-7.0.8,1 I'm thinking if the problem is caused by the linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_4. The shared object file /usr/local/lib/pluginwrapper/acrobat.so the wrapper supplies might not be sufficient for the new nppdf.so of the acroread7. If so, that's a bug. Has anyone else been caught by this error? I couldn't find anything related in the current bug reports. -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:11:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5336416A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1908943D73 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:11:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74IBKm6000540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:11:25 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:11:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> (Dan Nelson's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:31:16 -0500") Message-ID: <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:11:30 -0000 Dan Nelson writes: > In the last episode (Aug 04), Andrew Gould said: >> --- Scott Oertel wrote: >> > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a >> > better, more lightweight tool then mc? >> >> I would also like to hear recommendations for alternatives to mc that >> are light weight, work on the command line **and** are either >> included on the FreeBSD installation CD or would be appropriate >> additions to the installation CD. > > Actually, mc is pretty lightweight if you disable all the options. Note > that the dependency on Perl isn't listed in OPTIONS, so you have to > disable it manually in the port Makefile by setting > WITHOUT_PERL_MODULES=yes > Anyway, for a base system, it's still a bit heavy. In fact, one can always do anything with cp/mv.... I believe the base system should only include the simplest solution, that is, the most fundamental tools one needs, and without redundancy. > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:19:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BEE16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F3B43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:19:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so153411pyc for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=r0MLgPaLfk0WF0a9A/5HkLeljQNKys8pSxQkqdtZi9gu/l9h8mIngDh7IUQEj6ODBWiFO0YMm07ZBOoTpUFOThpcuYlQEjA8CUuVtYVVb3vUMRqPPblxpDXwbXvU4fsPtTizVjiZwhgcGJOTGhaERbTmZ3rL0m1tHgdSKFFKggQ= Received: by 10.35.60.16 with SMTP id n16mr5424824pyk; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.105.10 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:19:06 +0400 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Richard Collyer" In-Reply-To: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ec9912b554550824 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. HDD Protocal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:19:09 -0000 On 8/4/06, Richard Collyer wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know where I can get the protocol used in SMART HDD diagnostics. > > My 3ware card puts out the following information and I am trying to > write a program to decipher it into something more sensible. Have you tried smartmontools? http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/smartmontools/ If it doesn't help, still you'd better look for answers on its website: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:35:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7930D16A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from outbound0.sv.meer.net (outbound0.mx.meer.net [209.157.153.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AC343D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:35:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outbound0.sv.meer.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k74IYwjF048459 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from scatha.usermode.org (covad-usermode.meer.net [209.157.140.26]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id k74IYaE3099405 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) From: David Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:34:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041134.35807.david@usermode.org> Subject: cups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:35:08 -0000 Like millions of other users, my printing capabilities came to an abrupt end when I upgraded cups to version 1.2. After weeks of wasting time on the problem, I'm still not printing. I've seen lots of hints and tips on this list and elsewhere, but they just don't work for me. I also get the sense they're not working for lots of other people either. I have a brand new (three months) laserjet printer, and I'll be damned if I have to reboot into Windows to use it! I can "downgrade" to an older cups, but that's not a permanent solution. Symptoms: Nothing happens when I print a file (or print test page). I've waited up to ten minutes. When I cancel the job and start a new one, I then get the following message in the cups admin page: "USB port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...". This message stays even after unplugging printer USB port. A restart of cupsd is necessary to make it go away. OS: FreeBSD-6.1-RELEASE Printer: HP LaserJet 1320, USB Using ppd file downloaded from linuxprinting.org lpstat -t output (without the port busy message): scheduler is running system default destination: laserjet device for laserjet: usb:/dev/ulpt0 laserjet accepting requests since Fri Aug 4 11:20:53 2006 printer laserjet now printing laserjet-36. enabled since Fri Aug 4 11:20:53 2006 laserjet-36 root 18432 Fri Aug 4 11:20:53 2006 Relevant packages: cups-1.2.0 cups-base-1.2.0_2 cups-pstoraster-8.15 (not using hplip, should I?) dmesg: ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard hp LaserJet 1320 series, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode Permissions on devices: crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 151 Aug 4 08:43 /dev/ulpt0 crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 152 Aug 4 08:43 /dev/unlpt0 All BSD printing executables have been renamed out of the way (lp.org, lpr.org, etc). The old cups.sh script no longer exists. devfs.rules was modified according to some tips found floating about online. I also note that these tips, which seems to be necessary, are not in the handbook or in any pkg_message file. Any help leading to a solution will be greatly appreciated. I would also love to see the cups ports provide sufficient (and correct) documentation to get printing to work. Thank you, -- David Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:37:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0816A53A for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7443D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from yoda.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.41]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74IbPHk027851 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:37:25 -1000 (HST) Received: from yoda.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.41]) by yoda.pixi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id k74IbP604526 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:37:25 -1000 Message-Id: <200608041837.k74IbP604526@yoda.pixi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: knowtree@aloha.com Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:37:25 HST X-Posting-IP: 141.190.32.69 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.2.19 Subject: SmartCard user authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:37:26 -0000 Is anyone working on SmartCard user authentication in conjunction with Gnome? The company I work for wants to use SmartCards exclusively to logon to workstations, and has pretty much done so with Windows XP. My FreeBSD workstation is a Dell, with a SK-3106 USB keyboard with built-in SmartCard reader. I am thinking that PAM provides the hooks, but where do I find the middleware to read the card, request the PIN, and crosswalk a piece of data on the card to the local username? My card is labeled Oberthur Cosmopolic. The Oberthur web site describes an "ID One Cosmo" which looks about right. The write-up mentions Java and standards; anybody know what those are? I'm willing to blaze this trail myself, I just don't want to waste time reinventing the wheel. Gary Dunn Honolulu knowtree@aloha.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:43:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F8B16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EC243D81 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:42:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k74Igu3F019771 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id k74IgtRR019767 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:42:55 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060804184255.GA18129@saltmine.radix.net> References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:43:08 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:11:20PM -0400, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Dan Nelson writes: >=20 > > In the last episode (Aug 04), Andrew Gould said: > >> --- Scott Oertel wrote: > >> > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a > >> > better, more lightweight tool then mc? =2E.. > > Actually, mc is pretty lightweight if you disable all the options. Note ;-) > Anyway, for a base system, it's still a bit heavy. In fact, one can > always do anything with cp/mv.... I believe the base system should > only include the simplest solution, that is, the most fundamental > tools one needs, and without redundancy. "anything", given enough time/energy. This is more lightweight than mc, and does things that mc doesn't: http://invisible-island.net/ded/ --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFE05UttIqByHxlDocRAq2FAKCBXnj+3DkToY7G7etiBYhnbJFAawCffrQ3 9TM8YmtuFqTlr7tkgRuq4N4= =CV0+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 18:47:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADB116A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AEE43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:47:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k74Ilcuv019824; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:47:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200608041134.35807.david@usermode.org> In-Reply-To: <200608041134.35807.david@usermode.org> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041447.11069.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: David Johnson Subject: Re: cups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:47:42 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 14:34, David Johnson wrote: > Like millions of other users, my printing capabilities came to an abrupt > end when I upgraded cups to version 1.2. After weeks of wasting time on > the problem, I'm still not printing. > > I've seen lots of hints and tips on this list and elsewhere, but they > just don't work for me. I also get the sense they're not working for > lots of other people either. I have a brand new (three months) laserjet > printer, and I'll be damned if I have to reboot into Windows to use it! > > I can "downgrade" to an older cups, but that's not a permanent solution. > > Symptoms: > Nothing happens when I print a file (or print test page). I've waited up > to ten minutes. When I cancel the job and start a new one, I then get > the following message in the cups admin page: "USB port busy; will > retry in 30 seconds...". This message stays even after unplugging > printer USB port. A restart of cupsd is necessary to make it go away. > > OS: > FreeBSD-6.1-RELEASE > > Printer: > HP LaserJet 1320, USB > Using ppd file downloaded from linuxprinting.org > > lpstat -t output (without the port busy message): > scheduler is running > system default destination: laserjet > device for laserjet: usb:/dev/ulpt0 > laserjet accepting requests since Fri Aug 4 11:20:53 2006 > printer laserjet now printing laserjet-36. enabled since Fri Aug 4 > 11:20:53 2006 > laserjet-36 root 18432 Fri Aug 4 11:20:53 > 2006 > > Relevant packages: > cups-1.2.0 > cups-base-1.2.0_2 > cups-pstoraster-8.15 > (not using hplip, should I?) > > dmesg: > ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard hp LaserJet 1320 series, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, > iclass 7/1 > ulpt0: using bi-directional mode > > Permissions on devices: > crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 151 Aug 4 08:43 /dev/ulpt0 > crw-rw---- 1 root cups 0, 152 Aug 4 08:43 /dev/unlpt0 > > All BSD printing executables have been renamed out of the way (lp.org, > lpr.org, etc). The old cups.sh script no longer exists. devfs.rules was > modified according to some tips found floating about online. I also > note that these tips, which seems to be necessary, are not in the > handbook or in any pkg_message file. > > Any help leading to a solution will be greatly appreciated. I would also > love to see the cups ports provide sufficient (and correct) > documentation to get printing to work. You have the permissions fixed, which was half the solution for me when I made the upgrade. The other half was to abandon cups' usb back-end for the time being, since it doesn't work (as well as it used to). The workaround suggested in an earlier thread on this subject was to stop cups and manually edit the printers.conf file (in /usr/local/etc/cups), replacing the "usb:" portion of the printer URI with "file:". This worked for me and several others, although I remember posts that it did not work for some. HTH, JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:06:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDE916A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAE043D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:06:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19616291B11; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30412-02; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1BF291B0D; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 9E67C49FA6; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D34704F; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:06 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:06:06 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Antony Mawer In-Reply-To: <20060804132603.O25268@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: <20060804160529.I25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060803180553.B6529@ganymede.hub.org> <200608040314.k743EBK6050609@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <44D3262B.2000400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20060804101513.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> <44D34C9D.50308@mawer.org> <20060804132603.O25268@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stand up and be counted - BSDStats Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:06:10 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, User Freebsd wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Antony Mawer wrote: > >> On 4/08/2006 3:17 AM, User Freebsd wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>>> This is cool and all, but why are the concentration solely on PCI >>>> devices? pciconf output doesn't tell you directly what CPUs are in the >>>> system or even how many there are. It doesn't tell you exactly what sort >>>> of memory or disk drives the system uses -- all of which would be >>>> important information that might just persuade hardware manufacturers to >>>> provide more FreeBSD support. Surely a condensed version of >>>> /var/run/dmesg.boot is more to the point. >>> >>> /var/run/dmesg.boot can't be relied on, unfortunately ... I've had *many* >>> times where a reboot leaves that blank, or with "non-dmesg like" output >>> ... if you can provide a non-dmesg method of adding this information that >>> is consistent (ie. pciconf), then sure, we can add this sort of >>> information ... >> >> Some of this information can be gathered from the hw.* sysctl's, at least >> on 6.x... > > 'k, what I'm going to work on this weekend is a first pass at both the > periodic script, and the receiving database ... I will post the script when > completed, so that we can test what has been discussed so far, then we can > look at adding on 'features' from there to pull in more information ... > > Fair enough? BTW, if anyone out there likes doing HTML and web pages, please let me know ... anything *I* do will be as utilititarian as I can make them :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:21:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EF516A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from serrano.cc.columbia.edu (serrano.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D9343D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:21:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by serrano.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74JL6LI020010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:21:11 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060804184255.GA18129@saltmine.radix.net> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:21:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20060804184255.GA18129@saltmine.radix.net> (Thomas Dickey's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:42:55 -0400") Message-ID: <87vep8nw7x.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.6 Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:21:19 -0000 Thomas Dickey writes: > On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:11:20PM -0400, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: >> Dan Nelson writes: >> >> > In the last episode (Aug 04), Andrew Gould said: >> >> --- Scott Oertel wrote: >> >> > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a >> >> > better, more lightweight tool then mc? > ... >> > Actually, mc is pretty lightweight if you disable all the options. Note > > ;-) > >> Anyway, for a base system, it's still a bit heavy. In fact, one can >> always do anything with cp/mv.... I believe the base system should >> only include the simplest solution, that is, the most fundamental >> tools one needs, and without redundancy. > > "anything", given enough time/energy. > Yes. That's what the port system came for. You cannot just put anything into the base system, even if it's lightweight. Perhaps many people love mc, but there are people who have never used it. (Personally, I prefer dired in Emacs.) And I believe you can always do much more with basic tools than you do with mc, right? ;-) Much more, given enough time/energy. I always believe we should keep the base system as simple as possible. Actually, if it's really hard to connect to the internet, one can always burn a CD full of distfiles. > This is more lightweight than mc, and does things that mc doesn't: > > http://invisible-island.net/ded/ > Interesting. You can try to make it into the ports tree. > -- > Thomas E. Dickey > http://invisible-island.net > ftp://invisible-island.net -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:26:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A823916A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966EB43D5D for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:26:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l35so158327nfa for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mTUnQvKLrIf+HAwsqYLxaxqhNmjjsnc/Eu62JyaBOJcJWinbiKhyyIt9gwcTjwxwMjZE3CYUwb9T4YOPN7Y333sbWa8qLW6eYDbQcPMnbkNiLv25qmSJsY385K0A5xeDT6QK6J2VVGpvDVGkCdmg5HwmLaXX4sxztmuEiqKP25E= Received: by 10.49.29.2 with SMTP id g2mr5766707nfj; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:26:23 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "Joseph Le-Phan" In-Reply-To: <87vep84cly.fsf@geekbox.foldfarm.foo> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87vep84cly.fsf@geekbox.foldfarm.foo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:26:27 -0000 On 04/08/06, Joseph Le-Phan wrote: > Personally, it'd be fantastic if mc was slated for inclusion. It's an > absolute necessary install once I get a system up and running. The thing is, once you go down this route it won't stop. Other people regard bash, or lsof, or vim, or wget as an "absolute necessary install". bash gets put on all our boxes because three of my colleagues prefer it. For them it is essential - they won't use csh. I regard Tcl as an "absolute necessary install" as that is my chosen scripting language. I put it on every box I use (even Windows). And that's the problem. As I personally don't use mc it's inclusion would be wasted on me. And if Tcl was included it would be wasted on many (most!) other people. I have to say I absolutely enjoy using FreeBSD, more so than any other OS. And part of that joy comes from the few minutes installation for the base OS. I used to use Redhat. My first outing with that was version 4.2. Then as time went on it no longer fitted on a single CD (after 6.2 IIRC.) And the clutter and junk it installed (presumably because someone thought it was essential or useful) was just appalling. IMHO the base install is best left lean like it is now - the only additions should provide additional OS functionality, not user functionality. Joseph Le-Phan [GPG key: 292E09A0] My 2 pence. Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:28:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD9A16A4E6 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2823143D6E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G95LC-00038a-4u; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:28:14 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G95LB-0006OZ-BX; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:28:13 +0100 Message-ID: <44D39FC9.1080902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:28:09 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pete wright References: <57d710000608021725y1070be50g171be359e4ee795d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <57d710000608021725y1070be50g171be359e4ee795d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: Portmanger getting stuck in loop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:28:21 -0000 pete wright wrote: > Hi all, > I've got a portmanager question. I've been using it for quite some > time on various systems with great success - until today when i > ctl+c'd in the wrong terminal and broke an upgrade that was going on. > Now when i try to re-run portmanger to get a list of out of date ports > I am getting this: > > > 00109 ----:p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt > MISSING > 00110 ----:p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 > MISSING > 00111 ----:p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address > MISSING > 00112 ----:lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 > MISSING > > > I've tried various portmanager upgrade attempts (using -u/-f/ and -p) > and all seem to fail with similar messages as this: > > > skipping p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt marked IGNORE > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > skipping p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 marked IGNORE reason: > looping, 3rd attempt at make > skipping p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address marked IGNORE > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > skipping lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 marked IGNORE reason: looping, > 3rd attempt at make > > > soo...my question is, is there a way to reset the "state" of what > portmanger things is installed (and what rev's etc...). i am not even > sure if portmanger does this, although i am familiar with rebuilding > the pkgdb after i messed up when using portupgrade ;) > > thanks for any pointers/help! > > -pete > > You could try deleting or editing ignore.db. Mine's in /usr/local/share/portmanager/. Also check /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf. Does make run ok inside each ports directory? Just so you know nothing's really broken. Maybe delete any work directory before and after. There is a note in the man page about not interrupting it at some critical stage. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:33:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF4716A4F0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4340B43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:33:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G95QT-00041S-1p for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:33:41 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G95QS-0000Wv-Dj for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:33:39 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: portmanager man page online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:33:42 -0000 Hi, Searching for portmanager in the online man pages doesn't get anything. Should it? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:49:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C03716A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from outbound0.sv.meer.net (outbound0.mx.meer.net [209.157.153.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6FA43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:48:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outbound0.sv.meer.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k74Jmnj4053309; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from scatha.usermode.org (covad-usermode.meer.net [209.157.140.26]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id k74Jmch3030026; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) From: David Johnson To: John Nielsen Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:48:37 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200608041134.35807.david@usermode.org> <200608041447.11069.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200608041447.11069.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041248.37285.david@usermode.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:49:01 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 11:47, John Nielsen wrote: > You have the permissions fixed, which was half the solution for me > when I made the upgrade. The other half was to abandon cups' usb > back-end for the time being, since it doesn't work (as well as it > used to). The workaround suggested in an earlier thread on this > subject was to stop cups and manually edit the printers.conf file (in > /usr/local/etc/cups), replacing the "usb:" portion of the printer URI > with "file:". This worked for me and several others, although I > remember posts that it did not work for some. It works! Thank you! There is one oddity though. The printer "ready" light flashes as normal, but then the "attention" light flashes. Pressing the "go" button then prints out the job. According to the printer manual, this means either "manual feed" or "continuation error". I suspect that somehow manual feed is getting sent to the printer (even though it isn't set in cups printer options). A minor annoyance, but one I can live with. -- David Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:51:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA4216A4E5 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BDD43D55 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:50:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from srv.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1]) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G95h3-00099b-4Y; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:50:49 +0400 Received: from bsam by srv.sem.ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1G95ft-000Nds-Go; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:49:37 +0400 To: Scott Oertel References: <20060804125650.12923.qmail@web55110.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:49:37 +0400 In-Reply-To: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> (Scott Oertel's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:38:58 -0700") Message-ID: <36286910@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:51:01 -0000 On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:38:58 -0700 Scott Oertel wrote: > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a > better, more lightweight tool then mc? I can't say if it's better (I've never used mc) but definitely it's more lightweight: misc/deco. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:52:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAE416A4E1 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB3443D5F for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by jalapeno.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74JqZ36024712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:52:40 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87vep84cly.fsf@geekbox.foldfarm.foo> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:52:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (freminlins@gmail.com's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:26:23 +0100") Message-ID: <87r6zwnurg.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.5 Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:52:45 -0000 Freminlins writes: > On 04/08/06, Joseph Le-Phan wrote: > >> Personally, it'd be fantastic if mc was slated for inclusion. It's an >> absolute necessary install once I get a system up and running. > > > The thing is, once you go down this route it won't stop. Other people regard > bash, or lsof, or vim, or wget as an "absolute necessary install". bash gets > put on all our boxes because three of my colleagues prefer it. For them it > is essential - they won't use csh. I regard Tcl as an "absolute necessary > install" as that is my chosen scripting language. I put it on every box I > use (even Windows). And that's the problem. As I personally don't use mc > it's inclusion would be wasted on me. And if Tcl was included it would be > wasted on many (most!) other people. > > I have to say I absolutely enjoy using FreeBSD, more so than any other OS. > And part of that joy comes from the few minutes installation for the base > OS. > And a lot of that joy comes from the ports system. > I used to use Redhat. My first outing with that was version 4.2. Then as > time went on it no longer fitted on a single CD (after 6.2 IIRC.) And the > clutter and junk it installed (presumably because someone thought it was > essential or useful) was just appalling. > Here is a little bit OT. You may want to try Gentoo Linux, which I'm using for my desktop because FreeBSD is not happy with some of the hardwares. It's base system is completely clean and you might even uninstall the system packages. > IMHO the base install is best left lean like it is now - the only additions > should provide additional OS functionality, not user functionality. > Agree. > Joseph Le-Phan [GPG key: 292E09A0] > > > > My 2 pence. > Frem. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:58:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFF016A4E5 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2778243D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:58:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id k74Jwi3F011850 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id k74Jwhvq011844 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:58:43 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060804195843.GA10056@saltmine.radix.net> References: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> <20060804161318.95452.qmail@web35307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060804163116.GB42319@dan.emsphone.com> <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060804184255.GA18129@saltmine.radix.net> <87vep8nw7x.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vep8nw7x.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:58:45 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:21:06PM -0400, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > > This is more lightweight than mc, and does things that mc doesn't: > > > > http://invisible-island.net/ded/ > > > Interesting. You can try to make it into the ports tree. I could - but generally am too busy working on development to be much more involved with packaging than by giving advice... --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFE06bgtIqByHxlDocRAqJ1AJ9iwj9MwHGC9Z0y9ilftOVgb6k0dQCgpb5T pSMGUR4kZdroyJFdCOuyAzc= =f0Vz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:59:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796FB16A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 179E543D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:59:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97736 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 19:59:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=a3het8gz1QKJpwA33bwZtu9xmF8AyeQbOLLqWdcSAftp1wwdhUj5VvhsKLpZwxTYP9APFciEMTDLffBeg8N2mVCR/F1pcnCk2n4FfLo2SzKtiBHIdw8Eb+yLwbl76CyByrrD/V8cAsDJSMfkt8fUP5YIDeobSek1JaJiJv+awqw= ; Message-ID: <20060804195911.97734.qmail@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:59:11 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:59:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould To: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87zmeknzg7.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:59:12 -0000 --- Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > Dan Nelson writes: > > > In the last episode (Aug 04), Andrew Gould said: > >> --- Scott Oertel wrote: > >> > I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can > anyone recommend a > >> > better, more lightweight tool then mc? > >> > >> I would also like to hear recommendations for > alternatives to mc that > >> are light weight, work on the command line > **and** are either > >> included on the FreeBSD installation CD or would > be appropriate > >> additions to the installation CD. > > > > Actually, mc is pretty lightweight if you disable > all the options. Note > > that the dependency on Perl isn't listed in > OPTIONS, so you have to > > disable it manually in the port Makefile by > setting > > WITHOUT_PERL_MODULES=yes > > > Anyway, for a base system, it's still a bit heavy. > In fact, one can > always do anything with cp/mv.... I believe the > base system should > only include the simplest solution, that is, the > most fundamental > tools one needs, and without redundancy. > > > -- > > Dan Nelson > > dnelson@allantgroup.com We're not talking about including mc (or similar application) in the base system. The installation CD's already contain many binary packages from the ports system (ie not in the base system). The question is whether there is an application similar to mc already on the CD; and, if not, whether one should/could be included. Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 19:59:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2091916A4E5 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E9D43D55 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com) Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F13D94338 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:59:53 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: EsIL2R4R1rrm32VPrNiW6s4AxFs9BqGMOpRkq96Vx9k/ 1154721593 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E0F5E42 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:59:53 -0400 (EDT) From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:59:49 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608042059.50788.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com> Subject: Re: portmanager man page online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:59:55 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 20:33, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, > > Searching for portmanager in the online man pages doesn't get anything. > Should it? portmanager isn't part of the freebsd base system From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 20:24:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C6C16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net (ylpvm12-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08943D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:24:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.19.1.235] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-19-1-235.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.19.1.235]) by ylpvm12.prodigy.net (8.13.7 out spool5000 dk/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k74KNl1V029649 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:23:47 -0400 Message-ID: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:24:00 -0700 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DNS Blacklist Script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:24:02 -0000 Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a host to a dns blacklist? It would be very convenient to blacklist all the e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist all senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder. Thanks, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 20:25:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B164216A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1175943D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k74KP2ma021021 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:25:02 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k74KP2bu026925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 13:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <44D3AD1E.5010807@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:25:02 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.8.4.130432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: NIS and Kerberos 5 : is it possible / smart? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:25:03 -0000 Hi all, Just wondering if it's possible for NIS and Kerberos 5 to work in tandem with one another, such that NIS would handle groups and configuration file management and Kerberos would handle authentication only. Also, is this sort of overkill perhaps, where NIS is not really needed? I basically have 3+ machines (2 desktops, 1 laptop, currently), and I want to keep my credentials and information uniform across the machines as much as possible. The network I would be implementing this on is a low-traffic, private network. Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 20:36:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7057816A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-142-072.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.142.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D542643D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:36:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p17.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.6/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k74KZu87039868; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:35:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20060804153441.026a2980@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:35:22 -0500 To: Chris Maness , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> References: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: DNS Blacklist Script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:36:39 -0000 Your best is to report them to spamcop. I believe there is a plug-in for thunderbird to do that. -Derek At 03:24 PM 8/4/2006, Chris Maness wrote: >Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a host >to a dns blacklist? It would be very convenient to blacklist all the >e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist all >senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder. > >Thanks, >Chris Maness >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 21:13:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A4916A4DA; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7416D43D49; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:13:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (u1qyqiizf58pkqwp@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k74LD6i2082753; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id k74LD5vC082752; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:13:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:13:05 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060804211305.GE58082@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: User Freebsd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:13:08 -0000 User Freebsd wrote this message on Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 22:44 -0300: > For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) > driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to > heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file > accesses just no longer work ... > > So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and > are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to > build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at > your own peril ... > > Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex > cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... Have you tried the driver in -current and/or 6.1-R? Specificly v1.14 and v1.13.2.1 of iir.c that limits the simq to 32 commands? We are running w/ this modifications w/o issues on 6.0-R w/ SRCU31A and SRCU42L cards... We have a few GDT cards also that I don't believe we are having any issues with... Infact, scottl tracked down that change after a bit of proding from me on behalf of my employer nCircle... (Though it helped that he was able to reproduce it in his lab.)... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 21:18:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AECF16A4DA; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AAA43D6E; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:18:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA61291B11; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:18:05 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38223-03; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F4E291B09; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:18:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id C45EE5C3D0; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:18:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB3E4704F; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:18:10 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:18:10 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: John-Mark Gurney In-Reply-To: <20060804211305.GE58082@funkthat.com> Message-ID: <20060804181735.R25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060731220931.R27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060804211305.GE58082@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:18:13 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > User Freebsd wrote this message on Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 22:44 -0300: >> For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) >> driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to >> heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file >> accesses just no longer work ... >> >> So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and >> are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to >> build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at >> your own peril ... >> >> Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex >> cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... > > Have you tried the driver in -current and/or 6.1-R? Specificly v1.14 > and v1.13.2.1 of iir.c that limits the simq to 32 commands? We are > running w/ this modifications w/o issues on 6.0-R w/ SRCU31A and SRCU42L > cards... We have a few GDT cards also that I don't believe we are > having any issues with... Yes, this was the first thing ScottL asked when we narrowed the problem down ... this appears to be a different issue then the one you were seeing :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 21:27:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C969A16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from mxo6.broadbandsupport.net (mxo6.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7467D43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:27:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsclark@kingwoodcable.net) Received: from atmail7.ibbsonline.com (unknown [209.55.3.56]) by mxo6.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CBB9B6A17 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=atmail7.ibbsonline.com) by atmail7.ibbsonline.com with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G97CQ-0006Jc-Qy for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:27:18 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ron Clark To: questions@freebsd.org X-Origin: 63.166.212.7 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:27:18 -0400 X-Uidl: 1154726838188651800 X-Mailer: AtMail 4.11 Message-Id: <20060804212719.02CBB9B6A17@mxo6.broadbandsupport.net> X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-broadbandsupport.net-MailScanner-From: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsclark@kingwoodcable.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:27:27 -0000 OK, I have rebuilt the box again and this time installed Mysql Server=0D 4.1 from the packages. No errors during the install. =0D =0D When I try and start mysql, I get the following error:=0D =0D test2# /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe &=0D [1] 781=0D test2# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/db/mysql=0D STOPPING server from pid file /var/db/mysql/test2.pid=0D 060804 09:48:33 mysqld ended=0D =0D =0D [1] Done /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe=0D =0D =0D =0D If I cat the .err file it writes, this is what it says:=0D =0D 060804 09:48:33 mysqld started=0D 060804 9:48:33 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file=0D operation.=0D InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to=0D InnoDB: the directory.=0D InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1=0D InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'.=0D InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.=0D 060804 09:48:33 mysqld ended=0D =0D How do I fix this and get Mysql Server to start?=0D =0D Thanks in advance, =0D Ron=0D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 21:33:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DECA16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DCB43D55 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:33:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c59so232776pyc for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L9/GMIRzQbCB3hg7XWtKUBmBjh6Tw+xpgnSO75PGqfvcjMQAzC334KoRDPt0AABLBBh0JeDbaThyHgO7uB1rK/xtamNg7EnnwKX7fgEkHUkjIaxkm1TziZQs/ZLvxbVxlNHz+/awq3Y6lnY0KUzJ/u/l77PwXQfNc9Ut+L/yK6g= Received: by 10.35.63.2 with SMTP id q2mr5737879pyk; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.75.20 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000608041433k57ed0eb9x98d4e78ae4da185c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:33:44 -0700 From: "pete wright" To: "Chris Whitehouse" In-Reply-To: <44D39FC9.1080902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <57d710000608021725y1070be50g171be359e4ee795d@mail.gmail.com> <44D39FC9.1080902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: Portmanger getting stuck in loop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:33:45 -0000 On 8/4/06, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > pete wright wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got a portmanager question. I've been using it for quite some > > time on various systems with great success - until today when i > > ctl+c'd in the wrong terminal and broke an upgrade that was going on. > > Now when i try to re-run portmanger to get a list of out of date ports > > I am getting this: > > > > > > 00109 ----:p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt > > MISSING > > 00110 ----:p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 > > MISSING > > 00111 ----:p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address > > MISSING > > 00112 ----:lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 > > MISSING > > > > > > I've tried various portmanager upgrade attempts (using -u/-f/ and -p) > > and all seem to fail with similar messages as this: > > > > > > skipping p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt marked IGNORE > > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 marked IGNORE reason: > > looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address marked IGNORE > > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 marked IGNORE reason: looping, > > 3rd attempt at make > > > > > > soo...my question is, is there a way to reset the "state" of what > > portmanger things is installed (and what rev's etc...). i am not even > > sure if portmanger does this, although i am familiar with rebuilding > > the pkgdb after i messed up when using portupgrade ;) > > > > thanks for any pointers/help! > > > > -pete > > > > > > You could try deleting or editing ignore.db. Mine's in > /usr/local/share/portmanager/. Also check > /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf. > > Does make run ok inside each ports directory? Just so you know nothing's > really broken. Maybe delete any work directory before and after. > > There is a note in the man page about not interrupting it at some > critical stage. > > Chris > > Thanks Chris, so I'll check out the ignore.db and the pm-020.conf. The ports are able to build with no problems on their own, which is wierd. I'll post back if any of these things work. -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:08:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C2F16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from smtp1.versatel.nl (smtp1.versatel.nl [62.58.50.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A1243D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 15593 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2006 22:08:38 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (HELO [192.168.5.2]) ([62.59.173.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp1.versatel.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 4 Aug 2006 22:08:38 -0000 Message-ID: <44D3C56A.60806@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:08:42 +0200 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060706) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Sendmail Question; unable to send mail as normal user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:08:42 -0000 I tried to setup my own mail and smtp-server with help from this webpage: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html . I sucessfully installed imap-uw and I got it up successfully. Allthough the stmp-part doesn't work for 100% yet: I can send mail as root : # mail frankstaals@gmx.net Subject: test test . EOT This works perfectly, allthough when I try to mail as user it doesn't work: $ mail frankstaals@gmx.net Subject: test usertest . EOT $ /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 0: cannot open: Permission denied The same is visible in /var/log/maillog : Aug 5 00:01:39 FStaals sendmail[12047]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(frank): /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 0: cannot open: Permission denied I'm not sure what I should do to get it working properly, but I don't think it's something big. I tried googling but that didn't turn up anything usefull. Can someone point out what I'm doing wrong ? Thanks in advance -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:15:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DBC16A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC85043D4C for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:15:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so103329nzn for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.59.19 with SMTP id m19mr5890924qbk; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13sm705444qbq.2006.08.04.15.15.51; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EAABFE0; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by seibercom.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k74MFlXg017237; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:15:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <57d710000608021725y1070be50g171be359e4ee795d@mail.gmail.com> <44D39FC9.1080902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44D39FC9.1080902@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart11564210.TXnPxy9d1l"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608041815.46735.gerard@seibercom.net> Cc: pete wright Subject: Re: Portmanger getting stuck in loop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:15:53 -0000 --nextPart11564210.TXnPxy9d1l Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 04 August 2006 15:28, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > pete wright wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got a portmanager question. I've been using it for quite some > > time on various systems with great success - until today when i > > ctl+c'd in the wrong terminal and broke an upgrade that was going on. > > Now when i try to re-run portmanger to get a list of out of date ports > > I am getting this: > > > > > > 00109 ----:p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt > > MISSING > > 00110 ----:p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 > > MISSING > > 00111 ----:p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address > > MISSING > > 00112 ----:lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 > > MISSING > > > > > > I've tried various portmanager upgrade attempts (using -u/-f/ and -p) > > and all seem to fail with similar messages as this: > > > > > > skipping p5-Math-BigInt-1.77 /math/p5-Math-BigInt marked IGNORE > > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping p5-Socket6-0.19 /net/p5-Socket6 marked IGNORE reason: > > looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping p5-Email-Address-1.86 /mail/p5-Email-Address marked IGNORE > > reason: looping, 3rd attempt at make > > skipping lzo2-2.02_1 /archivers/lzo2 marked IGNORE reason: looping, > > 3rd attempt at make > > > > > > soo...my question is, is there a way to reset the "state" of what > > portmanger things is installed (and what rev's etc...). i am not even > > sure if portmanger does this, although i am familiar with rebuilding > > the pkgdb after i messed up when using portupgrade ;) > > > > thanks for any pointers/help! > > > > -pete > > You could try deleting or editing ignore.db. Mine's in > /usr/local/share/portmanager/. Also check > /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf. > > Does make run ok inside each ports directory? Just so you know nothing's > really broken. Maybe delete any work directory before and after. > > There is a note in the man page about not interrupting it at some > critical stage. > > Chris > I use portmanager all the time and virtually never have a problem. I would= =20 suggest that you try the following to see if you can pin down what the=20 problem is. Run 'portsclean -C -D -L' to clean out any left over work directories and=20 obsolete libraries. Then create a script of what actually happened when portmanager ran. This w= hat=20 I do: script -ak /PATH-TO-LOG/pm-update.log portmanager -u -l That will create a log file in the path you specify. If the same problem=20 happens again, you could forward both that file and the one created by=20 portmanager to the developer. Ciao! =2D-=20 Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net QOTD: "I'll listen to reason when it comes out on CD." --nextPart11564210.TXnPxy9d1l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE08cSs3R1WQUU6lgRAs0jAJ9TEDzvS6674Fpay0wCDYWb/y1FSgCfUHn9 W792Ecw2Dlm0edf3gnwkoI4= =mcIs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart11564210.TXnPxy9d1l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:25:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8191216A4DD; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F020E43D45; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (f7u4pwpdb33t5c1v@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k74MPA4Z083694; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id k74MP9eQ083693; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:25:08 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20060804222508.GF58082@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Scott Long , "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd References: <20060731224403.T27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801075159.GD64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801083550.GE64880@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060801113704.K27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801150540.GA10310@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44CF74CC.4070401@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: iir(4) driver (Was: Re: Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT851...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:25:11 -0000 Scott Long wrote this message on Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:35 -0600: > FreeBSD. Making big statements in public that they don't, or that it's > not up to ones' standards or hopes, isn't terribly useful or productive. > I'd hate for FreeBSD to turn into That Other BSD that publically abuses > and harasses vendors for percieved sleights. There are much more > positive and product ways to fix problems and form good relationships, > and those ways are actively being pursued by some people right now. The problem is that these pursuits are not public knowlege, and very often trying to get support through even better than normal channels (i.e. using your system builder's extra clout) doesn't get you this info... The most they tell you is sorry, no support, and we are just being nice to even tell you this since you're running something else... I believe that honest information is better than hopes that turn up fruitless... I've had no end of issues w/ Intel trying to get them to fix various issues w/ their cards (SRCU31A and SRCU42L), and they won't even acknowledge that failing drives due to SELECTION_TIMEOUT, ABORTED COMMAND, OVERLAPPED COMMANDS ATTEMPTED or DISCONNECT_TIMEOUT is a major issue... Due to the fact that SRCU31A is so old, they haven't qualified the newer 2.42 firmware w/ the card... We are going to look at it, since we haven't seen any "failed" hd's on the 2.42 firmware... > And here again is my standard disclaimer: > I highly recommend that anyone who takes their data integrity seriously > should spend time qualifying any RAID solution that they are interested > in before putting it into production. What works for your workload > might not work for someone else's workload, and vice-versa. Agreed, luckily we found the hang issue w/ 5.x before we shipped, so we were saved yet another disaster... > Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > >Hello! > > > > > >>'k, just to clarify here ... the new products won't be based on the > >>iir(4) driver then? > > > > > >Yes, they won't. > > > > > >>Basically, should the iir(4) driver be considered EOE also? > > > > > >As far as Adaptec and ICP Vortex are concerned, yes. Since the > >driver is Open Source, there is no enforced EOE, just "orphanage", > >if nobody is willing to work on it. > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:28:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7D16A4DF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4758F43D6E for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:28:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so104415nzn for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.211.16 with SMTP id n16mr6111185qbq; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15sm709271qba.2006.08.04.15.28.56; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81ABFE0; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by seibercom.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k74MSq2w017326; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:28:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) From: Gerard Seibert Organization: Seibercom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:28:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060804212719.02CBB9B6A17@mxo6.broadbandsupport.net> In-Reply-To: <20060804212719.02CBB9B6A17@mxo6.broadbandsupport.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(=?utf-8?q?gxJxxc=0A=09RnSNPNr*/=5E=7EStawWU9KDJ-CT0k=24f=23?=@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3474190.jxaLzQqWVE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608041828.51976.gerard@seibercom.net> Cc: Ron Clark Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@seibercom.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:28:58 -0000 --nextPart3474190.jxaLzQqWVE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 04 August 2006 17:27, Ron Clark wrote: > OK, I have rebuilt the box again and this time installed Mysql Server > 4.1 from the packages. No errors during the install. > > When I try and start mysql, I get the following error: > test2# /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe & > [1] 781 > test2# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/db/mysql > STOPPING server from pid file /var/db/mysql/test2.pid > 060804 09:48:33 mysqld ended > > > [1] Done /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe > > > > If I cat the .err file it writes, this is what it says: > > 060804 09:48:33 mysqld started > 060804 9:48:33 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file > operation. > InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to > InnoDB: the directory. > InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 > InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. > InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. > 060804 09:48:33 mysqld ended > > How do I fix this and get Mysql Server to start? > > Thanks in advance, > Ron OK, I once had the same problem. I am assuming that you attempted to start = and=20 configure MySQL manually after installing it. First of all, make sure you=20 have : mysql_enable=3D"YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file. Now navigate to the /var/db directory. Either rename or delete the mysql=20 directory. You have nothing in it since you did not get MySQL running. Now= =20 either reboot or navigate to /usr/local/etc/rc.d and as root type: ./mysql-server start It is possible yours is named different, so substiture the correct file nam= e.=20 That should create the directory with the proper permissions, etc. Now you= =20 can procede to configure MySQL for your users, etc. =2D-=20 Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom.net A person forgives only when they are in the wrong. --nextPart3474190.jxaLzQqWVE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE08ojs3R1WQUU6lgRAv6OAKCyqg7SGvl+xcmaK1uvE68sQUzlgwCg5Rc1 mqkH/Ltt2/KAtmWZTQm8suA= =7Pwp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3474190.jxaLzQqWVE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:46:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3D316A4DE for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from orion.dandy.net (orion.dandy.net [209.128.224.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD8D43D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from rigel.dandy.net (rigel.dandy.net [209.128.224.25]) by orion.dandy.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8072D5D1E9 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:46:04 -0400 (EDT) From: andy@neu.net X-X-Sender: andyneu@polaris.dandy.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060804221559.1849A16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <20060804221559.1849A16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: CUPS 1.2.0 setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:46:05 -0000 I reinstalled FBSD6.1 release on a machine that had been previously running 6.0 release. I had been using CUPS 1.1x and printing was working fine. However, I just reinstalled CUPS 1.2.0 and now printing is broken. The problem I have is the following: I can get to the main admin page, but when I click on the add printer button it goes to a blank page. The same thing happens no matter what link I click on, they all go to a blank page. Has anything changed as far as configuration in the new version? In the old version I would choose HPJetdirect, and give it the ip address. Now I cannot even do that. Any suggestions are appreciated. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 22:49:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C33316A4E0 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DE843D46 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:49:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henry.lenzi@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so586951nfe for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mdkQnsX2yXYXv2HqXwbPdoDDJMbE1grdEwxw/dJVpOrWMAm9zFEXshUnAnf8XcS8fcgEvYT4HokX0IwdehkWFzw8zPrl1DcUSFeWSsL5Ntvu2BLSYt4k8liKKX4xb8RG7b+KeixneCKRFiYGvrq0ncstNC7SXqwq0JWcQBbizoo= Received: by 10.49.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr6011415nfi; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.95.5 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8b4c81f0608041549t343b7068tf609ccd5bd7fbef4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:49:50 -0300 From: "Henry Lenzi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4464h8o40t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8b4c81f0608031516r33f46a9fu326e724225e4eb6@mail.gmail.com> <4464h8o40t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: Squeak Smalltalk upgrading problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:49:53 -0000 > > Presumably because the maintainer hasn't had time to update it yet. > If you provide patches, that would probably help him get it faster... > Yes, I can infer that is one possibility. However, I was asking for specifics. And specifically, I wasn't asking for a knee-jerk answer with no real information content, like yours. It seems you neither use nor care about Squeak, but care only about engaging in such infantile exchanges, in which case you should refrain yourself from such lowly and puny pathetic pleasures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 23:08:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4B316A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sanabriamusic@yahoo.com) Received: from web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 874F643D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:08:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sanabriamusic@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 85633 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2006 23:08:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Sqq7lmWPxHwQU5fSK3+29ed88oDgy+ldWpsBkXG6eFxchY/zRqSPy61ra8dhKTjBjZ3f6dI4dFUXbrcqlrQ+sPmgP8ieuhMpQmdFyayWF1VxOblg1mOrJ/yimWV9dP2/B/JWWffV4dZ4Ns2JYTiTqA7kmIoRzigKP43aKlVvYMk= ; Message-ID: <20060804230802.85631.qmail@web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.37.130.142] by web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:08:02 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: tony sanabria To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:08:03 -0000 Hi, I have a sony vaio that used to run windows me. the system no longer wants to recognize the restoration cd. I am not a microsoft lover so i decided to use something else. my cdrom didnt want to read any of the iso's i downloaded before like ubuntu, dream linux and so forth. i went to the library and found a book tittled "freebsd in 24hrs" with companion cd. my pc read the cd and i was able to install freebsd i believe version 4 or something like that. I am very happy with it but would like to update the freebsd. I tried to get the freebsd to see the internet connection so that i can update from within freebsd but i havent been able to get it to see the dsl connection that is connected to a linksys router. I was hoping you can help me either set up the internet connection in freebsd or at least suggest which of the files I should download from this xp machine so that i can burn a cd and upgrade my freebsd machine. i dont know if its alpha, amd or which of the files. and also when i select the one you may suggest do i click iso link, and also..do i burn all the files shown for that option? i.e. bootonly, cd1, cd2, checksum and so forth. thank you. i hope to hear from you soon. i am very happy that my dead pc is alive again. thank you. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 23:11:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6E916A4DD for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gauthamglist@gmail.com) Received: from saraswati.hathway.com (saraswati.hathway.com [202.88.156.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2668D43D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gauthamglist@gmail.com) Received: from [210.18.149.72] by saraswati.hathway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 1 (built Aug 19 2002)) with ESMTP id <0J3H007PAXKX2C@saraswati.hathway.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:37:46 +0530 (IST) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:42:25 +0530 From: Gautham Ganapathy In-reply-to: <44D2973C.5040501@ywave.com> To: Micah Message-id: <1154733145.5551.4.camel@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1154644957.16390.5.camel@localhost> <44D2973C.5040501@ywave.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to build azureus port with diablo-1.5.0-b00 jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:11:14 -0000 On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 17:39 -0700, Micah wrote: > Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have installed the diablo jdk package downloaded from the freebsd > > foundation page. Now, when I try to build the azureus port, it also > > tries to build jdk1.4.2 because log4j depends on that port. How can I > > get the ports system to use the installed jdk instead of building 1.4.2? > > I am using freebsd 6.1-release. > log4j doesn't specify a java version, so it should work with any. > azureus, however, is a little more specific and might be the culprit. > > You might be able to fix it by setting one of the java knobs in > make.conf, but since I don't have diablo installed, I couldn't tell you > which one to set. :( Check /usr/local/etc/javavms to see which java VMs > are installed and how javavmwrapper refers to diablo, maybe we can > figure it out from that. > I checked the file. It contains just one line /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/bin/java # DiabloCaffe I tried changing the JAVA_BUILD and JAVA_RUN variables in the azureus Makefile to diablo-jdk and JAVA_VERSION to 1.5, but it did not work. Any idea what change I need to do to the Makefile. Building azureus or log4j both start the jdk-1.4.2 build Regards Gautham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 23:14:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAF416A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B5343D67 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:14:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([83.160.138.119]:22485 helo=http.aseed.net) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G98rp-000EDw-AT; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:14:09 +0000 Received: from amandla (217-19-30-147.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.30.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by http.aseed.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4355829D; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:14:07 +0200 From: albi To: tony sanabria Message-Id: <20060805011407.237e0f87.albi@scii.nl> In-Reply-To: <20060804230802.85631.qmail@web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060804230802.85631.qmail@web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.18; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:14:17 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) tony sanabria wrote: > Hi, I have a sony vaio that used to run windows me. > the system no longer wants to recognize the restoration cd. > I am not a microsoft lover so i decided to use something else. get yourself a 6.1 FreeBSD-cdrom, or try : http://www.livebsd.com/ http://www.desktopbsd.org/ http://www.pcbsd.org/ :] -- grtjs, albi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 23:23:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6EA16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from outbound0.sv.meer.net (outbound0.mx.meer.net [209.157.153.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628B443D45 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outbound0.sv.meer.net (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k74NN1js064946; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) Received: from scatha.usermode.org (covad-usermode.meer.net [209.157.140.26]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id k74NMeei007966; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@usermode.org) From: David Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:22:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060804221559.1849A16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041622.39538.david@usermode.org> Cc: andy@neu.net Subject: Re: CUPS 1.2.0 setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:23:55 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 15:46, andy@neu.net wrote: > I reinstalled FBSD6.1 release on a machine that had been previously > running 6.0 release. I had been using CUPS 1.1x and printing was > working fine. However, I just reinstalled CUPS 1.2.0 and now > printing is broken. The problem I have is the following: > > I can get to the main admin page, but when I click on the add printer > button it goes to a blank page. The same thing happens no matter > what link I click on, they all go to a blank page. > > Has anything changed as far as configuration in the new version? In > the old version I would choose HPJetdirect, and give it the ip > address. Now I cannot even do that. Any suggestions are > appreciated. That's one problem I never had. Make sure cups 1.1 is completely uninstalled. Stop cupsd daemon. Remove anything left over in /usr/local/etc/cups. Make sure there is no /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh script. Install cups 1.2. Then make sure the cupsd daemon is started again (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupd start). -- David Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 23:35:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5856A16A4DA for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E315F43D49 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:35:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G99CH-0003im-8M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:35:17 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G99CD-0004EC-HL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:35:13 +0100 Message-ID: <44D3D9B0.2050703@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:35:12 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Asus a8n-vm csm/nbp motherboard broken acpi workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:35:21 -0000 Hi all A bit of googling suggested that the a8n-vm csm (without the nbp suffix) was an ok board, supported with FreeBSD after an acpi repair by Adriaan de Groot (http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/development.freebsd.php#a8nvm ), and on special in a local shop so I bought one. It turned out to be a variant called a8n-vm csm/nbp which also had a broken acpi and a slightly different bios so the repaired dsdt file from Adriaan didn't work. Here's what I got on boot: ACPI-0397: *** Error: NsSearchAndEnter: Bad character in ACPI Name: 43045350 ACPI-0381: *** Error: Looking up [0x43045350] (NON-ASCII) in namespace, AE_BAD_CHARACTER Anyway I made my own dsdt file with his instructions and now it works. Just in case anyone was thinking of getting one of these boards, Adriaan has agreed to put my dsdt file on his site (I don't have web space) in the next week or so. If anyone wants a copy in the meantime let me know and I'll send it to you. FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Sun Jul 23 01:22:40 BST 2006 Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 00:04:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135B16A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralphellis1@netscape.ca) Received: from smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com (smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3E943D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:04:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ralphellis1@netscape.ca) Received: from [192.168.123.100] ([172.146.1.166]) by smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:04:40 -0700 From: Ralph Ellis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:04:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060804230802.85631.qmail@web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804230802.85631.qmail@web35902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608042004.15837.ralphellis1@netscape.ca> X-Rcpt-To: X-Country: US Subject: Re: hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:04:41 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 4:08 pm, tony sanabria wrote: > Hi, I have a sony vaio that used to run windows me. > > > the system no longer wants to recognize the restoration cd. > > > I am not a microsoft lover so i decided to use something else. > > > my cdrom didnt want to read any of the iso's i downloaded > > > before like ubuntu, dream linux and so forth. i went to > > > the library and found a book tittled "freebsd in 24hrs" > > > with companion cd. my pc read the cd and i was able > > > to install freebsd i believe version 4 or something > > > like that. I am very happy with it but would like > > > to update the freebsd. I tried to get the freebsd to see the internet > connection > > > so that i can update from within freebsd but i > > > havent been able to get it to see the dsl > > > connection that is connected to a linksys router. I was hoping you can > help me either set up the > > > internet connection in freebsd or at least > > > suggest which of the files I should download > > > from this xp machine so that i can burn a > > > cd and upgrade my freebsd machine. i dont > > > know if its alpha, amd or which of the > > > files. and also when i select the one > > > you may suggest do i click iso link, > > > and also..do i burn all the files > > > shown for that option? > > > i.e. bootonly, cd1, cd2, > > > checksum and so forth. thank you. i hope to hear > > > from you soon. i am very happy that my dead pc is alive again. thank you. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The easiest for you to get started with would be PC-BSD www.pcbsd.org or DesktopBSD www.desktopbsd.org. Both will boot you into a graphical interface and will configure your internet connection for you. I find PC-BSD a little easier to start with but both work well, both can use the ports collection and PC-BSD has a very easy install routine for commonly used programs. Ralph Ellis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 00:35:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCD16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B3A43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:35:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xj2106@columbia.edu) Received: from photon.homelinux.org (dyn-carl-201-40.dyn.columbia.edu [160.39.201.40]) (user=xj2106 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k750Zbm2027405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 20:35:42 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20060804221559.1849A16A4F3@hub.freebsd.org> From: Xiao-Yong Jin Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:35:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (andy@neu.net's message of "Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:46:04 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: <87ac6kow86.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 128.59.29.8 Subject: Re: CUPS 1.2.0 setup problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:35:43 -0000 andy@neu.net writes: > I reinstalled FBSD6.1 release on a machine that had been previously > running 6.0 release. I had been using CUPS 1.1x and printing was > working fine. However, I just reinstalled CUPS 1.2.0 and now printing > is broken. The problem I have is the following: > > I can get to the main admin page, but when I click on the add printer > button it goes to a blank page. The same thing happens no matter what > link I click on, they all go to a blank page. > Try command line tools to manager your printer. > Has anything changed as far as configuration in the new version? In > the old version I would choose HPJetdirect, and give it the ip > address. Now I cannot even do that. Any suggestions are appreciated. > I had a Gentoo Linux box have this problem after upgrading. But a fresh install of CUPS 1.2 on my FreeBSD box works fine. > TIA > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Xiao-Yong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 00:38:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3E216A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C43343D67 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:38:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 339616233 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:38:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 29912 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 00:38:31 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 00:38:31 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D3E886.6010603@ywave.com> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:38:30 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gautham Ganapathy References: <1154644957.16390.5.camel@localhost> <44D2973C.5040501@ywave.com> <1154733145.5551.4.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1154733145.5551.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to build azureus port with diablo-1.5.0-b00 jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:38:36 -0000 Gautham Ganapathy wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 17:39 -0700, Micah wrote: >> Gautham Ganapathy wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I have installed the diablo jdk package downloaded from the freebsd >>> foundation page. Now, when I try to build the azureus port, it also >>> tries to build jdk1.4.2 because log4j depends on that port. How can I >>> get the ports system to use the installed jdk instead of building 1.4.2? >>> I am using freebsd 6.1-release. > >> log4j doesn't specify a java version, so it should work with any. >> azureus, however, is a little more specific and might be the culprit. >> >> You might be able to fix it by setting one of the java knobs in >> make.conf, but since I don't have diablo installed, I couldn't tell you >> which one to set. :( Check /usr/local/etc/javavms to see which java VMs >> are installed and how javavmwrapper refers to diablo, maybe we can >> figure it out from that. >> > > I checked the file. It contains just one line > > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/bin/java # DiabloCaffe > > I tried changing the JAVA_BUILD and JAVA_RUN variables in the azureus > Makefile to diablo-jdk and JAVA_VERSION to 1.5, but it did not work. Any > idea what change I need to do to the Makefile. > > Building azureus or log4j both start the jdk-1.4.2 build > > Regards > Gautham > > According to bsd.java.mk and man javavm, I think you want to set JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd, probably in /etc/make.conf. It looks like it defaults to bsdjava. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 01:22:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD9616A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: from web55113.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55113.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1917543D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:22:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bryanbonifacio@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49667 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2006 01:22:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qA/hRhPQghSLThYOh/Ge+DsY6CxinUQWQuOcs5tjYl/VqVl/wSXb7l/IThhd8L81sc1VLM72exFa6G0B7w/0cgxWQvUxZqbokjeTgJQ2PPP05YCXQ6VFpLvlGFWzijQrgSebQYmlo6qHlvUCbRR3hs6lfU+t2YucjIK+DdG8PRU= ; Message-ID: <20060805012239.49665.qmail@web55113.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Received: from [221.217.236.164] by web55113.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:22:39 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 18:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Bonifacio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D36A12.5090000@scottevil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:41:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Midnight Commander in base distribution set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:22:40 -0000 This article could be helpful: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/2226202&tid=13&tid=49 The author reviewed FDClone and Vifm along with Midnight Commander. Both FDClone and Vifm seem fast and lightweight to the author. -- Bryan Scott Oertel wrote: I use midnight commander on a daily basis, can anyone recommend a better, more lightweight tool then mc? -Scott Oertel _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 01:43:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331E716A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E963243D6A for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from 203-206-108-153.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO tosh) ([203.206.108.153]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 09:43:07 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,214,1151856000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="422411902:sNHT28799350" From: "Gary Newcombe" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:43:06 +1000 Message-ID: <000001c6b830$80213a00$1f01a8c0@tosh> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aca4MH88qPzlJySeQJiXcP66zPRphA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0631-3, 04/08/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:43:23 -0000 Hello all, I'm getting the following error when I use portsnap lately on one of my servers: [mesh:/home/gary]# portsnap fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Thu 3 Aug 2006 04:45:32 EST to Sat 5 Aug 2006 11:06:54 EST. Fetching 0 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 2 patches.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 2 new ports or files... gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format snapshot is corrupt. I have now removed /var/db/portsnap and started from scratch 3 times. This fixes the problem, but a few days later, I get the same story. I haven't had any problems on any of the other servers (although they have older kernels), so I'm guessing this could be a problem with portsnap from this kernel build or it's related to something else. FreeBSD mesh.lhshoses.com.au 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 28 13:29:26 EST 2006 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MESH i386 Anyone got any ideas? Thanks Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 02:21:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDEB16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2564E43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:21:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I005A46J9ZR10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I00E6O6J9M640@pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3I00LMU6J8DZK1@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 41957 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:21:02 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:21:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:21:01 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <000001c6b830$80213a00$1f01a8c0@tosh> To: Gary Newcombe Message-id: <44D4008D.1000309@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <000001c6b830$80213a00$1f01a8c0@tosh> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:21:10 -0000 Gary Newcombe wrote: > I'm getting the following error when I use portsnap lately on one of my > servers: > [snip] > Fetching 2 new ports or files... > gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format > snapshot is corrupt. > > I have now removed /var/db/portsnap and started from scratch 3 times. This > fixes the problem, but a few days later, I get the same story. I haven't had > any problems on any of the other servers (although they have older kernels), > so I'm guessing this could be a problem with portsnap from this kernel build > or it's related to something else. First, the obvious thing to check: Are you running out of disk space on /var ? Second, please run 'portsnap --debug fetch' and send me the output; this will give me a chance of identifying the problem. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 02:33:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B6616A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D88B43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:33:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from 203-206-108-153.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO tosh) ([203.206.108.153]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 10:33:07 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,214,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="579803669:sNHT21651368" From: "Gary Newcombe" To: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:33:07 +1000 Message-ID: <000501c6b837$7d1ad3a0$1f01a8c0@tosh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aca4Nai3zK68EFUIQ3+rVzJJIhIX1QAAQjpg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-reply-to: <44D4008D.1000309@freebsd.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0631-3, 04/08/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:33:11 -0000 Sure, the /var slice is 2Gb and has plenty of room. [mesh:/home/gary]# portsnap --debug fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... latest.ssl 100% of 256 B 512 kBps done. Fetching snapshot metadata... 6eb9d6e9f93dd6b8e2a88bdf9d394b7e77f75795f073a4100% of 299 B 650 kBps done. Updating from Thu 3 Aug 2006 04:45:32 EST to Sat 5 Aug 2006 11:06:54 EST. Fetching 0 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 2 patches... /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org bp/7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210ebf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5-ad06d1f7 b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd bp/352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297effb8831e6eb6a46cb31-ad3d5100 1a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3 http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210e bf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5-ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d 059f1b8fd: 200 OK http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297 effb8831e6eb6a46cb31-ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee83799 48a44aae3: 200 OK done. Applying patches... bspatch: Corrupt patch sha256: NEW: No such file or directory [: =: unexpected operator bspatch: Corrupt patch sha256: NEW: No such file or directory [: =: unexpected operator done. Fetching 2 new ports or files... /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166 564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz: 200 OK http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9f fc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz: 200 OK gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format snapshot is corrupt. Thanks Colin, Gary -----Original Message----- From: Colin Percival [mailto:cperciva@freebsd.org] Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 12:21 PM To: Gary Newcombe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsnap oddities Gary Newcombe wrote: > I'm getting the following error when I use portsnap lately on one of my > servers: > [snip] > Fetching 2 new ports or files... > gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format > snapshot is corrupt. > > I have now removed /var/db/portsnap and started from scratch 3 times. This > fixes the problem, but a few days later, I get the same story. I haven't had > any problems on any of the other servers (although they have older kernels), > so I'm guessing this could be a problem with portsnap from this kernel build > or it's related to something else. First, the obvious thing to check: Are you running out of disk space on /var ? Second, please run 'portsnap --debug fetch' and send me the output; this will give me a chance of identifying the problem. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 02:43:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C0416A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F7943D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:43:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.6/8.13.4) with SMTP id k752gv5E076436; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:42:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Richard Collyer Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:43:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> In-Reply-To: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. HDD Protocal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:43:03 -0000 On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:54:38 +0100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know where I can get the protocol used in SMART HDD = diagnostics. Hi, There are existing tools you can use to read and monitor the SMART info in /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools e..g driver 0 on a 3ware RAID1 array # smartctl -a -d 3ware,0 /dev/twed1 smartctl version 5.33 [i386-unknown-freebsd4.9] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ =3D=3D=3D START OF INFORMATION SECTION =3D=3D=3D Device Model: ST380011A Serial Number: 3JV3WT64 =46irmware Version: 3.16 User Capacity: 80,000,000,000 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 6 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2 Local Time is: Fri Aug 4 22:40:30 2006 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled =3D=3D=3D START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION =3D=3D=3D SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever=20 been run. Total time to complete Offline=20 data collection: ( 430) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. No General Purpose Logging support. Short self-test routine=20 recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 58) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 063 056 006 Pre-fail Always - 4431727 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 097 097 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 0 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 086 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 453086282 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 075 075 000 Old_age Always - 21996 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 37 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 046 049 000 Old_age Always - 46 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 063 056 000 Old_age Always - 4431727 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 10357 - # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9451 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9427 - # 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9404 - # 5 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9380 - # 6 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9357 - # 7 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9333 - # 8 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9309 - # 9 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9286 - #10 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9262 - #11 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9239 - #12 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9215 - #13 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9192 - #14 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9168 - #15 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9144 - #16 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9121 - #17 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9097 - #18 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9074 - #19 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9050 - #20 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9027 - #21 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9003 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. 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(127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:23:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:23:46 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <000501c6b837$7d1ad3a0$1f01a8c0@tosh> To: Gary Newcombe Message-id: <44D40F42.40409@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <000501c6b837$7d1ad3a0$1f01a8c0@tosh> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:23:55 -0000 Gary Newcombe wrote: > Fetching 2 new ports or files... > /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org > f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166 > 564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz: 200 OK > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9f > fc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz: 200 OK > > gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format > snapshot is corrupt. Strange. I've checked on portsnap1.freebsd.org, and those files are definitely intact. Are you using an HTTP proxy? It's possible that it might have cached a broken version of those files. Could you look in /var/db/portsnap and tell me how large those two files are? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 03:25:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C95116A4E5 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E3D43D53 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:25:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38235291B11 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:25:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84721-03 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B46291B0D for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:25:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id BA3B35D07F; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:25:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91305CD5F for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:25:28 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:25:28 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1726969029-1154748328=:25268" Subject: BSDstats Project v1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:25:32 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1726969029-1154748328=:25268 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... The attached script goes into /etc/periodic/monthly (and can be run from the command line) and is the *very* barebones ... it reports operating system and architecture ... it will return a unique id at the same time which will be used when we add in the pciconf output ... I have it recording two things: IP and hostname ... I figure it is highly unlikely for two hosts to ever have both identical, so a *fairly* safe unique key to work with ... and unless someone is running a whack of machines behind NAT with the same hostname, it gives us a safe unique counter for those behind NAT ... The backend is storing the data in a database right now, so what I'm curious most about is someone running behind NAT with a few servers, or behind a proxy, just to see what sort of results ... I'm going to try and get the pciconf output added into it later tonight, and will post a follow up, but this at leave gives something to test against ... Right now, there is no "output" on the web site, but I do have a link to, and daily run of, awstats, which will at least show some figures ... once there is data in the database, I'll start working up a stats page based on the #s there ... Note that once you've added this script, you need to add: monthly_statistics_enable="YES" to /etc/periodic.conf so that it will run monthly ... and, of course, you can run it manually, instead of waiting until the end of the month ... 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Or my configuration fault? My configuration is the same (with 6-STABLE as of yesterday) and I get the same error trying to view PDFs within seamonkey. This has happened earlier this year, but I can't recall when it was fixed or if it was avoided by backing down to a previous version of acroread. Please file a PR. In the short term, you can use portdowngrade to go back to the previous version of acroread7, or just save the PDF from within the browser and use the command-line version of acroread. In the not-quite-as-short term, hopefully nork can fix this. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 03:49:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCBC16A4DA; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au (ihug-mail.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731F443D49; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:49:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from 203-206-108-153.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO tosh) ([203.206.108.153]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony6.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 11:49:50 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,214,1151856000"; d="scan'208"; a="403441089:sNHT473998546" From: "Gary Newcombe" To: "'Colin Percival'" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:49:48 +1000 Message-ID: <000701c6b842$33ea1910$1f01a8c0@tosh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Aca4PmzUIAUneeDuRDODIzfMygupuAAAJ/0w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-reply-to: <44D40F42.40409@freebsd.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0631-3, 04/08/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:49:53 -0000 Yes, nail on the head methinks. This server is behind a proxy and portsnap works fine with it disabled. With combination of advproxy, havp and privoxy: [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz Without: [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# portsnap --debug fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... latest.ssl 100% of 256 B 685 kBps done. Fetching snapshot metadata... d82061f1c680d235d7c08c340e9c25e42b4a133e2ca1c1100% of 299 B 533 kBps done. Updating from Thu 3 Aug 2006 04:45:32 EST to Sat 5 Aug 2006 11:22:38 EST. Fetching 0 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 2 patches... /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org bp/7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210ebf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5-ad06d1f7 b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd bp/352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297effb8831e6eb6a46cb31-ad3d5100 1a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3 http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210e bf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5-ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d 059f1b8fd: 200 OK http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297 effb8831e6eb6a46cb31-ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee83799 48a44aae3: 200 OK done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 0 new ports or files... done. [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz So the files did seem to be intact initially anyway? Just clearing the cache for the proxy didn't seem to solve the problem btw. Thanks, Gary -----Original Message----- From: Colin Percival [mailto:cperciva@freebsd.org] Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 1:24 PM To: Gary Newcombe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsnap oddities Gary Newcombe wrote: > Fetching 2 new ports or files... > /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org > f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166 > 564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz: 200 OK > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9f > fc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz: 200 OK > > gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format > snapshot is corrupt. Strange. I've checked on portsnap1.freebsd.org, and those files are definitely intact. Are you using an HTTP proxy? It's possible that it might have cached a broken version of those files. Could you look in /var/db/portsnap and tell me how large those two files are? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 03:52:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A2016A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526EE43D62 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 03:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.24]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I00E7IARW2G80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I00G65ARW7280@pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3I00L9KARWEAF1@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 42813 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:52:37 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:52:37 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:52:37 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> To: User Freebsd Message-id: <44D41605.90509@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats Project v1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:52:51 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... > > The attached script [...] Can you make this into a port which users can install? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 04:06:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE2A16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cscotts@mindspring.com) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E6143D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:06:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cscotts@mindspring.com) Received: (qmail 45869 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 04:06:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.144?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 04:06:01 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 24.163.92.162 In-Reply-To: <000701c6b842$33ea1910$1f01a8c0@tosh> References: <000701c6b842$33ea1910$1f01a8c0@tosh> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <11326D9A-650D-4905-ADAB-28ABCB8DEECB@mindspring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Scott Sipe Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:06:01 -0400 To: "Gary Newcombe" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Colin Percival' Subject: Re: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:06:04 -0000 I might just add that I had similar corruption issues using portsnap behind a transparent squid proxy. Not 100% of the time corruption, but fairly often. Changed the router rules to not proxy for this server and all has been well. Scott On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Gary Newcombe wrote: > > Yes, nail on the head methinks. This server is behind a proxy and > portsnap > works fine with it disabled. With combination of advproxy, havp and > privoxy: > > [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > > Without: > > [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# portsnap --debug fetch > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... > latest.ssl 100% of 256 B 685 > kBps > done. > Fetching snapshot metadata... > d82061f1c680d235d7c08c340e9c25e42b4a133e2ca1c1100% of 299 B 533 > kBps > done. > Updating from Thu 3 Aug 2006 04:45:32 EST to Sat 5 Aug 2006 > 11:22:38 EST. > Fetching 0 metadata patches... > done. > Applying metadata patches... done. > Fetching 0 metadata files... > done. > Fetching 2 patches... > /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org > bp/7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210ebf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5- > ad06d1f7 > b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd > bp/352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297effb8831e6eb6a46cb31- > ad3d5100 > 1a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3 > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/ > 7c2d57a2388d4d5cd20e935c57727b5019fbdf06210e > bf9b8f0b7c01bf072db5- > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d > 059f1b8fd: 200 OK > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/bp/ > 352d16ab1731729d4542c9c126034d6f27ce2830f297 > effb8831e6eb6a46cb31- > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee83799 > 48a44aae3: 200 OK > done. > Applying patches... done. > Fetching 0 new ports or files... > done. > [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > > So the files did seem to be intact initially anyway? Just clearing > the cache > for the proxy didn't seem to solve the problem btw. > > Thanks, > Gary > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Percival [mailto:cperciva@freebsd.org] > Sent: Saturday, 5 August 2006 1:24 PM > To: Gary Newcombe > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: portsnap oddities > > Gary Newcombe wrote: >> Fetching 2 new ports or files... >> /usr/libexec/phttpget portsnap1.FreeBSD.org >> f/ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz >> f/ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz >> > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166 >> 564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz: 200 OK >> > http://portsnap1.FreeBSD.org/f/ > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9f >> fc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz: 200 OK >> >> gunzip: stdin: not in gzip format >> snapshot is corrupt. > > Strange. I've checked on portsnap1.freebsd.org, and those files are > definitely > intact. Are you using an HTTP proxy? It's possible that it might > have > cached > a broken version of those files. Could you look in /var/db/ > portsnap and > tell > me how large those two files are? > > Colin Percival > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 04:21:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75B816A4E5; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3590143D46; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA280291B12; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:21:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93788-10; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3015B291B11; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:21:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 250F24AB20; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:21:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ABB46B43; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:21:47 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:21:47 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <44D41605.90509@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060805011842.C25268@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> <44D41605.90509@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats Project v1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:21:49 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > User Freebsd wrote: >> 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... >> >> The attached script [...] > > Can you make this into a port which users can install? I'm not sure, can I? Can ports install into /etc/periodic? Or is there some other way of doing it? If you want to do the initial port and assign MAINTAINER to scrappy@freebsd.org, I'll maintain it from there ... I'm just not sure how to deal with installing into non-/usr/local as a port ... :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 04:26:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05816A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A842C43D5D for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 04:26:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.184]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I00B6OC9CVR10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd5mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J3I007R3C9CDO60@pd5mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0J3I00LJFC9BDVI1@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 42913 invoked from network); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:24:40 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:24:40 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:24:39 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <000701c6b842$33ea1910$1f01a8c0@tosh> To: Gary Newcombe Message-id: <44D41D87.6080401@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <000701c6b842$33ea1910$1f01a8c0@tosh> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060416) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portsnap oddities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:26:34 -0000 Gary Newcombe wrote: > Yes, nail on the head methinks. This server is behind a proxy and portsnap > works fine with it disabled. With combination of advproxy, havp and privoxy: > > [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 12:51 > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > > Without: > [...] > Fetching 2 patches... > [...] > done. > Applying patches... done. > Fetching 0 new ports or files... > done. > [mesh:/var/db/portsnap]# l *[3d].gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 > ad06d1f7b82db9ebcb496e7d48a754932622f1c8d6166564e61666d059f1b8fd.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 64B 5 Aug 13:32 > ad3d51001a264245eab5894cece6c902d073841143e9ffc7ee8379948a44aae3.gz > > So the files did seem to be intact initially anyway? Everything seems to be working fine now. You can delete those two files; they were left behind because I forgot to handle the case of 'file download failed, portsnap gets run again, and then patch download succeeds'. The correct versions of the files are stored in the /var/db/portsnap/files/ directory. > Just clearing the cache > for the proxy didn't seem to solve the problem btw. It's possible that your cache gets confused by pipelined HTTP. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened... Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 05:10:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7C216A50E for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE77643D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so659858nfe for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:10:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G4E2EXF5V9Sr9T+NfvZ4Aj/MWivoMP4JnGyCKaMU79rKbO4Lwgj9lXfzO1w0RRyzBgiTB3qwd6nR3kzWYQrDK3CUi0CNIMv/atiE0GTrizp1NxcAyLqvNN0IRyJOU+ssdDZthX7G45IqMQ326s9QyJST8SCkj/rkjkM/3ifPwYQ= Received: by 10.78.166.7 with SMTP id o7mr1818301hue; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 22:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 00:10:12 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: SATA Cables Suck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:10:19 -0000 On 8/1/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: > The number one problem I've had with SATA RAIDs has been the cables! 4 > times I've lost arrays because the cables came loose or some other > stupid problem with the cables. > > I need a vendor that has high quality latching SATA-II cables. Also... > what can we do with the old cables to fix them... super glue them > on?... Here's a question... Are all SATA cables rated for SATA-II? > I've never seen a definitive answer to this question and newegg.com > does not sells "SATA-II" cables... Also does the spec call for > shielded cables? > > frustrated, need a place to unload.... thanks. > Found a vendor: http://www.okgear.com/gears/SATA_CABLE_SERIES.htm -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 05:47:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6614C16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4F043D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:47:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (aphax.nl [82.92.29.227]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k755ll5B094227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:47:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h.nieser@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <44D431CD.4070500@xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:51:09 +0200 From: Hans Nieser User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> <44D41605.90509@freebsd.org> <20060805011842.C25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060805011842.C25268@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats Project v1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:47:55 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > >> User Freebsd wrote: >>> 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... >>> >>> The attached script [...] >> >> Can you make this into a port which users can install? > > I'm not sure, can I? Can ports install into /etc/periodic? Or is there > some other way of doing it? > > If you want to do the initial port and assign MAINTAINER to > scrappy@freebsd.org, I'll maintain it from there ... I'm just not sure > how to deal with installing into non-/usr/local as a port ... :( > Well, there's /usr/local/etc/periodic, won't that work? (The dir exists for me because that's where portaudit installed its script.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 06:01:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C5F16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FB743D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gobbledegeek@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so668682nfe for ; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:01:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=R5G00v6aApGKr61/qXFi3+mSqLQ9n7PPtWyPLpBMKV2mBXHqWSs6fN/Q8mevWiVpwUZpPPXIzjifG2/lOiSp8hFdNDnC8Sdd8if3DkbXhooFw7cpWPLDd+YXD5hSXm1PJ08GdT1e/HMuWB9VN8v4JXQjYVjVRA55aGjRYXHfIR4= Received: by 10.78.185.16 with SMTP id i16mr1829087huf; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.14 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 23:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <463aea570608042301k6cf1d8c1ye855cc1e2f015e2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:31:31 +0530 From: Gobbledegeek To: "michael johnson" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <463aea570608032316j392ac6bbsdc39d31d4bf7cf75@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleted /var/db/pkg, gnome_upgrade aborts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:01:34 -0000 yup ! doing that! Thanks for the tip! Rgrds On 8/4/06, michael johnson wrote: > > > > On 8/4/06, Gobbledegeek wrote: > > I rebuilt the pkgdb.db but all the other files are gone... > > Now portupgrade thinks no packages are installed. > > gnome-upgrade.sh aborts because it cannot handle 'nilclass' string. > > > > Any tips to get back my list of installed packages, or get > > gnome_upgrade to run? > > > You have no files under /var/db/pkg ? > you might as well rm -rf /usr/X11R6 /usr/local and reinstall > everything. > > > > Please cc to me as I'm not subscribed. > -- > Rgrds > GobbledeGeek > [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Rgrds GobbledeGeek [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 08:06:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8254016A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC21143D6A for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:06:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id SAA12086; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:05:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:05:34 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <20060804221559.A259F16A4FF@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: DW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:06:17 -0000 On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:38:12 +0200 > From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen > Subject: Re: .bash_logout and shutdown -- need ideas > To: DW > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <44D38604.6020500@lvor.halvorsen.cc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > DW wrote: > > Just started using a .bash_logout script to handle doing my unison > : > > The problem with that though, is that the shutdown process runs as root, > > and just drops the system, and I'm never actually getting logged out as > > much as booted out. So my .bash_logout doesn't run, and thus no unison > > unless I remember to run it manually first. > > > > Any ideas on how to work around this sitch? > > > At shutdown FreeBSD runs /etc/rc.shutdown. It seems that this script, by > means of /etc/rc.subr, will iterate all the files in (among others) > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and call them with the "faststop" argument. > > Maybe you could just add a script in there? > > (Actually, only files with a "# PROVIDES" line are considered, it seems, > so you should think about that). Also, DW was running 'sudo shutdown -p now' which is indeed immediate .. 'shutdown -p +1' (say) sets the shutdown countdown to one minute, makes (w)all sorts of noise then and again at (as I recall) 30 seconds to zero, plenty of time to logout from other things and (auto)run any other scripts you like before the shutdown-initiated rc.shutdown stuff. Furthermore, if you change your mind you've got time to kill shutdown itself before the timeout. 'sudo killall shutdown' should do the trick. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 10:52:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340EA16A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3918943D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:52:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75Aq73k009500; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:52:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k75Aq73k009500 Message-ID: <44D47850.5020705@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:52:00 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Maness References: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> In-Reply-To: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEA51CB0AC730F4815F65D64" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:52:27 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1635/Fri Aug 4 14:00:11 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS Blacklist Script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:52:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEA51CB0AC730F4815F65D64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Maness wrote: > Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a > host to a dns blacklist? It would be very convenient to blacklist all > the e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist > all senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder. You need to be very careful implementing something like this. Most Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' addresses culled from the address books on infected machines. Unless you're careful, you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely innocent people, or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users. Having said that, consider SpamAssassin's 'Auto white list' feature. It also works as a black list, but it's not a binary on-off. Instead, anyone who sends e-mail to your server gets a spam score depending on the ratings of their previous e-mails to you. That's added to the spam score for the e-mail being processed. So someone who continually sends you spammy e-mails won't get the benefit of the doubt on a marginal= e-mail, but someone else who sends a lot of ham will. Also included in SpamAssassin is a client for the Vipul's Razor project. That's a database of checksums of spam e-mails that is updated live. Spammer starts sending a few million spam e-mails, but after the first few, there's a mail signature in the Razor DB so that the rest of the world can reject those spams straight away. (Port: mail/razor-agents, WWW= : http://razor.sourceforge.net/) Integrating SpamAssassin into a mailing system can be done in many ways depending on what mail software is in use and so forth. Ask again here with details of your mail setup if you're interested in doing that. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBEA51CB0AC730F4815F65D64 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1HhW8Mjk52CukIwRCMFgAJ9WCxXLY222FO0QJpPbWBhH5vR6tACfbeyZ N/SciO7IUYfXr4XdbFjJwyc= =2Byj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBEA51CB0AC730F4815F65D64-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 10:54:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FFF16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beno@web.vi) Received: from efit.xs4all.nl (efit.xs4all.nl [82.92.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9734343D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:54:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beno@web.vi) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (dpc67143135132.direcpc.com [67.143.135.132]) by efit.xs4all.nl (Weasel v1.73) for ; 05 Aug 2006 12:50:50 Message-ID: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:53:54 -0400 From: beno User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: User Information (Easy Questions!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:54:12 -0000 Hi; * How do I find out which users have access to the box and what their permissions/groups are? * How do I edit those permissions/groups? * If I delete a user, does that affect the files/programs he installed, etc? TIA, beno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 11:01:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48C916A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951C843D69 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:01:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75B1Q6Y010262; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:01:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k75B1Q6Y010262 Message-ID: <44D47A81.5060902@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:01:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Staals References: <44D3C56A.60806@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <44D3C56A.60806@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAD1838C010BC27B6B6FB5EC9" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:01:49 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1635/Fri Aug 4 14:00:11 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Question; unable to send mail as normal user X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:01:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAD1838C010BC27B6B6FB5EC9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank Staals wrote: > $ mail frankstaals@gmx.net > Subject: test > usertest > . > EOT > $ /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 0: cannot open: Permission denied Yes -- it's to do with the separation of powers between sendmail-MSP (Mail Submission Program) and sendmail-MTA (Mail Transport Agent). Invok= ing /usr/sbin/sendmail from the command line, or via one of the standard Unix= command line mail clients connects you with the MSP instance. That runs with your UID, but is setgid to 'smmsp'. /etc/mail/submit.cf is the configuration file for that sendmail instance. Double check the file system ownership and permissions on /etc/mail and /etc/mail/submit.cf -- they should be as follows: happy-idiot-talk:/etc/mail:% ls -ld /etc/mail /etc/mail/submit.cf=20 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Aug 4 12:04 /etc/mail/ -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 40406 Aug 4 12:04 /etc/mail/submit.cf Note: using /etc/mail/Makefile to rebuild any of sendmail's tables or=20 configuration files means that all files should be installed with the correct permissions. There's instructions in the comments at the beginning of the Makefile Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigAD1838C010BC27B6B6FB5EC9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1HqG8Mjk52CukIwRCC5sAKCDHYkxmdwiGuGvDxfG4IrlgBNABACghXg4 hjodoJWBaATk1vnIvWfobfE= =pufT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAD1838C010BC27B6B6FB5EC9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 12:11:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D508F16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0B943D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:11:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from [87.112.1.230] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1G9L0T-00026U-MO for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:11:55 +0100 Message-ID: <44D48B05.1000303@jessikat.plus.net> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:11:49 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: vmware library problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:11:56 -0000 I have built and installed vmware3 from a recent(3/Aug) cvsup'd ports tree and everything seems to go fine. On reboot I see these messages which seem to relate to vmware Aug 5 12:44:47 host kernel: vmmon: Module vmmon: registered with major=200 Aug 5 12:44:47 host kernel: vmmon: Module vmmon: initialized Aug 5 12:44:47 host kernel: vmnet1: Ethernet address: 00:bd:5b:5f:00:01 Aug 5 12:44:47 host kernel: vmnet1: promiscuous mode enabled however, when I try running vmware I get a missing library message # vmware Setting TMPDIR=/var/tmp. vmware-mks: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory vmware-ui: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory find indicates that the libraries are indeed present. # find / -name libX11.so\* ./usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 ./usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.2 ./usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 ./usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so ./Programs/Putty0.58/lib/libX11.so.6 Anyone got any ideas what I'm doing wrong? What exactly should I be doing to get an XP machine image to run? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 12:12:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192B616A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D035043D53 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:12:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75CCEpw017706; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:12:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k75CCEpw017706 Message-ID: <44D48B18.3020401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:12:08 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beno References: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> In-Reply-To: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC61F19E87E1EC7B6F3C4A8FC" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:12:34 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1635/Fri Aug 4 14:00:11 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User Information (Easy Questions!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:12:43 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC61F19E87E1EC7B6F3C4A8FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable beno wrote: > Hi; > * How do I find out which users have access to the box and what their > permissions/groups are? Type: % id username which will tell you the users' UID and what groups they are a member of. > * How do I edit those permissions/groups? Unless you're using NIS or LDAP or some other directory program, then all you need to do is edit the /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group files. You can do that directly; use the vipw(8) command to edit the password file safely and to automatically rebuild /etc/passwd the=20 various .db files from /etc/master.passwd, but beware that screwing up the password file can lock you out of the machine. However using the pw(8) command is recommended. > * If I delete a user, does that affect the files/programs he installed,= > etc? No -- file and program ownership is recorded in the filesystem using the UID and GID numbers. Deleting the user from the password file remove= s the human readable name and the password needed to log in and the mapping= from username to UID. The files will still exist in the system, but when you look at the ownership of them using ls(1) you'll see a number=20 instead of a name for the owner. Note: this is potentially a problem. If the UID number gets reused for a= different account, that new user will get all the ownership rights to the= old users' files. It can often be a better policy to disable an old acco= unt -- set the password field in /etc/master.passwd to '!!' and change the sh= ell to /sbin/nologin -- rather than to delete it. You can also get a report on any 'unowned' files in the weekly periodic e-mail by adding weekly_noid_enable=3D"YES" to /etc/periodic.conf Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC61F19E87E1EC7B6F3C4A8FC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1Ise8Mjk52CukIwRCJNyAJ9xmxiQd5Kb1TK2EcYxzEpvkGKWEgCfX0PF rcL6G7y/t5kCvc4DD9XmNLc= =4GNe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC61F19E87E1EC7B6F3C4A8FC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 12:16:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A56F16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sms.gateway@saude.gov.br) Received: from DTR2007.saude.gov.br (trtymx.saude.gov.br [200.214.130.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DD443D76 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sms.gateway@saude.gov.br) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by DTR2007.saude.gov.br (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id C0BB73B8213 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:46:08 -0300 (BRT) From: sms.gateway@saude.gov.br To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:15:15 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <20060805114605.8CFC844401E@DTR2007.saude.gov.br> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?E-Mail_bloqueado_por_seguran=C3=A7a?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:16:44 -0000 SMSGateway A Política de Proteção contra Vírus e Spam´s do Ministério da Saúde bloqueou e substituiu este e-mail. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 12:31:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5052316A4E1 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwall@kurtwerks.com) Received: from spooner.celestial.com (spooner.celestial.com [192.136.111.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC2043D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwall@kurtwerks.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spooner.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DC7314E993; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at spooner.celestial.com Received: from spooner.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (spooner.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id crHq2ac4yirC; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from advent.localdomain (c-67-165-68-161.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [67.165.68.161]) by spooner.celestial.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AC39B314E992; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by advent.localdomain (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:31:19 -0400 From: "Kurt Wall" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:31:19 -0400 To: Richard Collyer Message-ID: <20060805123119.GB679@advent.localdomain> References: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44D389DE.4070000@firebadger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. HDD Protocal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:31:22 -0000 On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 06:54:38PM +0100, Richard Collyer wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know where I can get the protocol used in SMART HDD diagnostics. > > My 3ware card puts out the following information and I am trying to > write a program to decipher it into something more sensible. smartmontools is available in the 6.0 ports collection. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 12:56:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE8D16A4E0 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beno@web.vi) Received: from efit.xs4all.nl (efit.xs4all.nl [82.92.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C3243D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:56:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beno@web.vi) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (dpc67143135132.direcpc.com [67.143.135.132]) by efit.xs4all.nl (Weasel v1.73); 05 Aug 2006 14:53:01 Message-ID: <44D49564.6030408@web.vi> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:56:04 -0400 From: beno User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> <44D48B18.3020401@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44D48B18.3020401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: User Information (Easy Questions!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:56:24 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Note: this is potentially a problem. If the UID number gets reused for a > different account, that new user will get all the ownership rights to the > old users' files. It can often be a better policy to disable an old account > -- set the password field in /etc/master.passwd to '!!' and change the shell > to /sbin/nologin -- rather than to delete it. > Before I go trotting off and do this and potentially replace the wrong field, which one is the passwd? tick:$1$CDKLp9qt$sfo5Mi5/dB1uGZUuc5uKk0:1001:1001::0:0:User &:/home/tick:/sbin/nologin > You can also get a report on any 'unowned' files in the weekly periodic > e-mail by adding > > weekly_noid_enable="YES" > > to /etc/periodic.conf > Where does it find the email address? TIA, beno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:12:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2887716A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C692C43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:12:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kiffin.gish@planet.nl) Received: from gish.demon.nl ([83.160.27.223]:20605 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G9Lx9-0003b1-OW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:12:31 +0000 From: Kiffin Gish To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:12:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1154783557.59740.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Portupgrade disable certain builds ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:12:33 -0000 I would like to disable building certain builds when running a portupgrade -arR. For example, if gnome2 is tagged for a rebuild, Galeon is not built (because I don't use it and have deleted the package). How do I do this? -- Kiffin Gish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:13:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B06C16A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6BC43D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:13:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13449 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 13:13:18 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Aug 2006 13:13:18 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C99282842A; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:13:17 -0400 (EDT) To: Chris Whitehouse References: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:13:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> (Chris Whitehouse's message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:33:39 +0100") Message-ID: <44k65nnx5e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager man page online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:13:19 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > Searching for portmanager in the online man pages doesn't get > anything. Should it? Sure. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports+6.1-RELEASE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:22:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7561216A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.7.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC4043D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.nl with local; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:22:20 +0200 id 0003980D.44D49B8C.00008CA8 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:22:20 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20060805132220.GA35979@lothlorien.nagual.nl> References: <1154783557.59740.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1154783557.59740.6.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i From: dick hoogendijk Subject: Re: Portupgrade disable certain builds ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:22:26 -0000 On 05 Aug Kiffin Gish wrote: > I would like to disable building certain builds when running a > portupgrade -arR. > > For example, if gnome2 is tagged for a rebuild, Galeon is not built > (because I don't use it and have deleted the package). As I wrote earlier, see pkgtools.conf => HOLDPKG option -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:41:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0238F16A4E0 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88A643D6D for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16325 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 13:41:36 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Aug 2006 13:41:36 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9E8B92842A; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:41:35 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <340a29540608031635s59647a6clf06731410095c1b0@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:41:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <340a29540608031635s59647a6clf06731410095c1b0@mail.gmail.com> (Andrew Falanga's message of "Thu, 3 Aug 2006 23:35:51 +0000") Message-ID: <448xm3e1v4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: , af300wsm@gmail.com Subject: Re: Interesting problem with packages, how to fix if corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:41:49 -0000 "Andrew Falanga" writes: > If I do pkg_info with nothing else, all looks well. However, if I do > "pkg_info | grep " (which I do frequently so I don't > have to read through the entire list) I get these two errors: > > pkg_info: the package info for package 'portupgrade-2.0.1_1,1' is corrupt > pkg_info: the package info for package 'ruby18-bdb4-0.5.7' is corrupt > > How would I go about fixing these packages, or at least fixing the > package information? That's pretty weird, and I have no idea what could cause it, so advice is going to be tentative. [Are you *sure* that the errors come up when piping the output into grep, or are you specifying the package name as a parameter to pkg_info?] Try piping into less(1) instead of grep, and if you have a reasonable shell, separate out the stderr from stdout. That may give a clue what's going on. Or try removing both packages, cleaning all trace of them, and reinstall them next time you want them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:43:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D961E16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minduploading.net@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C7943D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:43:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from minduploading.net@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so761592nfe for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YavuHthWNz3IfVhFXXlwlA6wAWunjwmGuMEL3BvAnh26T0NzwwGCAYGxs8fFt5RGTZld/sIv86xV0kwgNq1oEO2BCkzI3SC46+teEVxBxAxOdtc4BNeOmfski9zYYQ4r+rTwR7OklROdD9qJ18dihLTvqIahDK+aVK8AFGImhUk= Received: by 10.78.128.11 with SMTP id a11mr1266657hud; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.132.5 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1625c9cf0608050643t7212e35dk8a96760ca2e8adc0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:43:14 +0100 From: "Australian National University" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: uraquasi@hotmail.com Subject: Fwd: failure notice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:43:18 -0000 To whom it may concern, We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) that run on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode that emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit Processor *ON a 32-bit machine. *Just like Voltage can be increased by sacrificing Amperage in electronics is it not possible to (dramatically) sacrifice speed of a x86 32-bit hyper-threading processor like a 3 gHZ PENTIUM 4 so that it could run a proper X64 OPERATING SYSTEM such as MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER at a (terrible) speed of 500mhz or so (given the exchange for 64-bit power) ? We are considering beginning a project here at the Australian National University whereby we can make MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER run on a 32-bit machine; this OS is essentially identical to WINDOWS SERVER 2003 except that it is X64, includes WOWEXEC to run 32-bit (the inverse of what we want to do), and incorporates MPICH as MSPICH-2 or MPIEXEC.EXE. We are even thinking about writing an equivalent MPIEXEC.EXEapplication for a Windows 2000 server (Active Directory Cluster Domain Controller) that would TRICK a WINDOWS COMPUTE CLUSTER machine into thinking it is another COMPUTE CLUSTER NODE and allow it to receive tasks from the Compute Cluster Job scheduler. Obviously our basic goal here is to allow X86 machines to join compute clusters and circumvent Microsoft's limitation of forcing people to use the AMD64 Processor. We are aware of your bias yet would appreciate your constructive criticism. Any reply will be quoted and may be re-printed in any journal printed by the University. Yours Faithfully, Adam. ------=_Part_65325_32037155.1154784928865 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
To whom it may concern,
 
We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) that run on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode that emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit Processor ON a 32-bit machine. Just like Voltage can be increased by sacrificing Amperage in electronics is it not possible to (dramatically) sacrifice speed of a x86 32-bit hyper-threading processor like a 3 gHZ PENTIUM 4 so that it could run a proper X64 OPERATING SYSTEM such as MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER at a (terrible) speed of 500mhz or so (given the exchange for 64-bit power) ? We are considering beginning a project here at the Australian National University whereby we can make MICROSOFT WINDOWS X64 COMPUTE CLUSTER run on a 32-bit machine; this OS is essentially identical to WINDOWS SERVER 2003 except that it is X64, includes WOWEXEC to run 32-bit (the inverse of what we want to do), and incorporates MPICH as MSPICH-2 or MPIEXEC.EXE. We are even thinking about writing an equivalent MPIEXEC.EXEapplication for a Windows 2000 server (Active Directory Cluster Domain Controller) that would TRICK a WINDOWS COMPUTE CLUSTER machine into thinking it is another COMPUTE CLUSTER NODE and allow it to receive tasks from the Compute Cluster Job scheduler. Obviously our basic goal here is to allow X86 machines to join compute clusters and circumvent Microsoft's limitation of forcing people to use the AMD64 Processor. We are aware of your bias yet would appreciate your constructive criticism. Any reply will be quoted and may be re-printed in any journal printed by the University.
 
Yours Faithfully,
 
Adam.
------=_Part_65325_32037155.1154784928865-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 13:57:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33F316A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB44C43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:57:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75DuunH022242; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:56:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k75DuunH022242 Message-ID: <44D4A3A2.3080306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:56:50 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beno References: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> <44D48B18.3020401@infracaninophile.co.uk> <44D49564.6030408@web.vi> In-Reply-To: <44D49564.6030408@web.vi> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig69EDBA882360B3A3CF1F3920" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:57:17 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1635/Fri Aug 4 14:00:11 2006 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User Information (Easy Questions!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:57:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig69EDBA882360B3A3CF1F3920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable beno wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> Note: this is potentially a problem. If the UID number gets reused fo= r a >> different account, that new user will get all the ownership rights to = the >> old users' files. It can often be a better policy to disable an old >> account >> -- set the password field in /etc/master.passwd to '!!' and change the= >> shell >> to /sbin/nologin -- rather than to delete it. >> =20 > Before I go trotting off and do this and potentially replace the wrong > field, which one is the passwd? > tick:$1$CDKLp9qt$sfo5Mi5/dB1uGZUuc5uKk0:1001:1001::0:0:User > &:/home/tick:/sbin/nologin The second field -- see passwd(5) (by which I mean type 'man 5 passwd', i= f it isn't obvious) >> You can also get a report on any 'unowned' files in the weekly periodi= c >> e-mail by adding >> >> weekly_noid_enable=3D"YES" >> >> to /etc/periodic.conf >> =20 > Where does it find the email address? The periodic emails are sent to root@localhost. There are at least two every day, plus an extra at the end of each week and at the end of each month -- you're expected to set up an alias that forwards them to the sysadmins for the machine. Check /etc/mail/aliases, you should have a line that says something like:= root: youruid in there towards the top. Edit the file appropriately and then type=20 'make' in the /etc/mail directory. If you haven't done that and you've be= en running a FreeBSD box for a while, you'll find that root's mailbox -- /var/mail/root -- is probably rather full. =20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig69EDBA882360B3A3CF1F3920 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE1KOo8Mjk52CukIwRCGCtAKCRlKxys2ZV9KnKs/O+px8gJ+rreQCdHQwT dWwsnBUpGHxQNqIYu47GE5c= =3C2g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig69EDBA882360B3A3CF1F3920-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 14:03:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9E016A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: from smtp.ade.people.net.au (smtp.ade.people.net.au [218.214.228.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89C7D43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:03:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 1250 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 14:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daemon.foo.lan) (218.214.176.70) by smtp.ade.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 14:03:49 -0000 From: Ian Moore To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:33:37 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5803945.JyO59qBnis"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608052333.44364.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Subject: Cups USB workaround was working but now fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:03:55 -0000 --nextPart5803945.JyO59qBnis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, When CUPS 1.2.0 came out, I had the same problem as others with port=20 permissions and the USB backend, so I changed my usb device permissions: crw-rw-rw- 1 root cups 227, 0 Aug 5 22:36 /dev/ulpt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root cups 227, 64 Aug 5 22:39 /dev/unlpt0 I also edited printers.conf and changed the URI from usb: to file: and I wa= s=20 able to print without any trouble. Today, I tried to print something and my printer printed a small amount of = the=20 page and then just hung with it's power/status light flashing. CUPS reporte= d=20 the printer was printing.=20 After trying to get it going, I checked printers.conf and found the URI lin= e=20 was set back to usb:, so I changed it to file: again restarted cupsd, but i= t=20 wouldn't start. Looking at the error log, I see: d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] start_job: filterfds[1]=3D[ 17 20 ] d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930]=20 cupsdStartProcess("/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster", 0x80e1b60,=20 0xbfbef790, 18, 20, 16) d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] start_job: Closing filter pipes for slot 0 [= 18=20 19 ]... I [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] Started=20 filter /usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster (PID 5358) for job 18. E [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] Unable to open output file "file:/dev/unlpt0= " -=20 Device not configured. D [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] Discarding unused job-completed event... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] start_job: Closing filter pipes for slot 0=20 [ -1 -1 ]... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] start_job: Closing filter pipes for slot 1 [= 17=20 20 ]... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] start_job: Closing status pipes [ 15 16 ]... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: id =3D 18, force =3D 0 D [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] Discarding unused printer-state-changed=20 event... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: printer state is 3 d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: Closing print pipes [ -1 -1 ].= =2E. d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: Closing back pipes [ 13 14 ]... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: Removing fd 15 from InputSet... d [05/Aug/2006:23:18:42 +0930] cupsdStopJob: Closing status pipes [ -1 -1 ]= =2E.. It seems that cups now won't recognise the file: setting, yet previously it= =20 did. I checked back through my logs to see if a newer cups port had come ou= t=20 & I'd inadvertently upgraded to it, but it seems that's not the case - it's= =20 still 1.2.0 Using the usb: URI always gives the same result - the job starts printing b= ut=20 stops after about 12% and won't go any further. Any ideas as to why my cups no longer accepts the file: URI? I'm running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2 and my printer is an Epson Stylus C61 o= n a=20 USB port. Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart5803945.JyO59qBnis Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBE1KVAPUlnmbKkJ6ARAm2jAKCPOX85oyqus8JLS/qN+++P7lNeCQCdHooK Q6kD/dTl/A/7ZbUcPsRrVC8= =dih2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5803945.JyO59qBnis-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 14:13:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7794F16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0377A43D45 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:13:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [75.19.1.235] Received: from [192.168.4.2] (adsl-75-19-1-235.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.19.1.235]) by ylpvm01.prodigy.net (8.13.7 out spool5000 dk/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k75EDQZl001267; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:13:27 -0400 Message-ID: <44D4A79A.5080302@chrismaness.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:13:46 -0700 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <44D3ACE0.7050202@chrismaness.com> <44D47850.5020705@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44D47850.5020705@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS Blacklist Script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:13:49 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > You need to be very careful implementing something like this. Most > Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' addresses culled > from the address books on infected machines. Unless you're careful, > you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely innocent people, > or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users. > > DNS based blacklists are based on the senders IP address, not the forged from address. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 15:03:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528B916A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CF843D55 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:03:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 11:07:59 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id LZX42588; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-24-149.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.24.149]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2006 11:03:38 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,214,1151899200"; d="scan'208"; a="250773740:sNHT22715676" From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17620.45837.588074.740658@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:02:37 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44D4A3A2.3080306@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <44D478C2.5040205@web.vi> <44D48B18.3020401@infracaninophile.co.uk> <44D49564.6030408@web.vi> <44D4A3A2.3080306@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.44D4B2C2.0030,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.4/2006-05-04 Subject: Re: User Information (Easy Questions!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:03:44 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > > Where does it find the email address? > > The periodic emails are sent to root@localhost. There are at > least two every day, plus an extra at the end of each week and at > the end of each month -- you're expected to set up an alias that > forwards them to the sysadmins for the machine. > > Check /etc/mail/aliases, you should have a line that says > something like: > > root: youruid > > in there towards the top. Or you can consider the follofing lines found in my /etc/periodic.conf.local: daily_output="root huff" # user or /file daily_status_security_output="root huff" # user or /file weekly_output="root huff" # user or /file monthly_output="root huff" # user or /file "Fixing" root in etc/mail/aliases may work for programs for which this is not desirable. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 16:00:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C066416A51B for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sigma_zk@yahoo.com) Received: from web52311.mail.yahoo.com (web52311.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.48.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51DC243D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:00:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sigma_zk@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81098 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2006 16:00:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1Fwj9ILzIikq9y5UHRXjtt0FuEHdjc/UfxdksxXG6Enc3dbMkieF90MCzEP0UDnXTSkZ2O0xCGnPA9INzNcKMD/v5OxnFanaelBYxrlmeAzyO531cAGdGlHZp4DcvbE/X1FNgny8HDXdK0r2v6yte2omhyljxePZM/VMHBPhSJ8= ; Message-ID: <20060805160036.81096.qmail@web52311.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.87.114.179] by web52311.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:00:36 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:00:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sean M." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: HPLIP and CUPS - no printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:00:37 -0000 I have an HP PSC 1410 printer and I am having issues with getting it working properly with hplip-0.9.11. I followed all the directions as outlined at http://am-productions.biz/docs/hplip.php, and while the connection was apparently a success, it will not print. Nothing happens when printing a test page, either from hp-setup or the HP Device Manager, and I get only this in /var/log/messages: Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.1 Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.2 Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.3 Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.4 Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.7 Aug 2 07:35:05 Compy kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.8 Also, when printing from an application like Konqueror using CUPS and server /var/run/cups.sock:631, I get a message box saying =============================================================== An error occurred while retrieving the printer list: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: host not found. =============================================================== But I _can_ print when using LPD or LPR. Firefox is the only application that lists "CUPS/PSC_1400" as a viable printer. In fact, Firefox is the only brower that shows the printer when I go to http://localhost:631. Speaking of the web interface, if I try to print a test page with it, I get a "Quota limit reached" error page. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 16:46:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487D516A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EF743D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k75Gkfuv012702; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id k75Gkfwe012700; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:46:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ns1.jnielsen.net: www set sender to john@jnielsen.net using -f Received: from c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net (c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.59.28.54]) by newwebmail.jnielsen.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:46:41 -0400 Message-ID: <20060805124641.ko6gfbagaskss48c@newwebmail.jnielsen.net> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:46:41 -0400 From: John Nielsen To: Warren Block References: <871wrw7e5b.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060804213837.C66538@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804213837.C66538@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) / FreeBSD-4.9 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nppdf.so: undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:46:57 -0000 Quoting Warren Block : > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: > >> Hi all, after upgrading firefox and acroread, I got this when I tried >> to use the plugin, >> >> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library >> /usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so >> [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so: >> Undefined symbol "__ctype_b_loc"] >> >> I have these lines in my /etc/libmap.conf, >> >> # Acrobat7 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase >> [/usr/X11R6/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/ENU/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so] >> libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/acrobat.so >> >> Bug? Or my configuration fault? > > My configuration is the same (with 6-STABLE as of yesterday) and I > get the same error trying to view PDFs within seamonkey. This has > happened earlier this year, but I can't recall when it was fixed or > if it was avoided by backing down to a previous version of acroread. I saw this behavior with the acroread-7.0.4 (or was it 7.0.5?) port as well. That revision of the port was backed out before it had been in the tree very long since it wouldn't allow you to print. The port was reverted to 7.0.1, and recently made the jump to 7.0.8, thus bringing back the new symbol that linuxpluginwrapper doesn't understand. The advice to file a PR and let nork@ have some time to look at it is sound. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:16:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9406F16A4DA for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA5143D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:16:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40267DE205; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:13:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:16:45 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060805171645.GA948@epia2.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: Using pre-built packages with portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:16:09 -0000 Building packages for multiple machines on a fast CPU, with portmanager's -bu option populates a /usr/ports/packages tree. So far, so good. What I'd like though, is to be able to reuse that tree (mounted via NFS or rsynced over) on other machines with much slower CPUs. The fast build machine and the other slow machines are not synchronized w.r.t. the set of installed ports. What is needed is that portmanager uses packages from /usr/ports/packages if available, and compiles from source the remaining ports. How do I get portmanager to upgrade ports, using 1. pre-built packages from /usr/ports/packages (ONLY), and only if there's no binary package there, 2. build from source as usual? Additional limit (preventing use of portupgrade -P) is that only local (/usr/ports/packages), and no remote packages should be used. Any idea how to do this with portmanager? Sorry if it's obvious, but I'm running low on coffeine... ;) Thanks -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:20:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4BC16A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: from outgoing.holservices.gr (outgoing.holservices.gr [62.38.2.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3231E43D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:20:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: (qmail 30836 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 13:53:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO deliver.mail.dc.hol.net) (192.168.20.70) by arete.mail.dc.hol.net with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 13:53:27 -0000 Received: from auth-smtp.hol.gr (takeit01.mail.dc.hol.net [192.168.20.71]) by deliver.hol.gr (8.12.11/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k75HJNZD008606 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified OK) for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:19:23 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (ppp009-131.dsl.hol.gr [89.210.9.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.hol.gr (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k75HK9Fi018106 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:20:10 +0300 Message-ID: <44D4D356.8070201@yahoo.gr> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:20:22 +0300 From: Apatewna User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200608052333.44364.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200608052333.44364.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87/1635/Fri Aug 4 16:00:11 2006 on takeit01.mail.dc.hol.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Cups USB workaround was working but now fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: apatewna@yahoo.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:20:17 -0000 O/H Ian Moore Ýãñáøå: > It seems that cups now won't recognise the file: setting, yet previously it > did. I checked back through my logs to see if a newer cups port had come out > & I'd inadvertently upgraded to it, but it seems that's not the case - it's > still 1.2.0 > Using the usb: URI always gives the same result - the job starts printing but > stops after about 12% and won't go any further. > > Any ideas as to why my cups no longer accepts the file: URI? > I'm running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2 and my printer is an Epson Stylus C61 on a > USB port. > > Cheers, I just checked http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L397 and CUPS is at 1.2.2 already. I also remember a major problem with 1.2.0. See these threads : http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=4173&highlight=cups http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42391 I remember that the severity of the bug was so great that the 1.2.1 update was in the ports in a week or so. I'm not in front of a BSD machine to be sure, but have you upgraded your ports lately? Cups 1.2.1 should at least be there. Also, I don't think you are running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2.... yet! :) -- RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens ----------------------------------------- Thanasis Rizoulis Electronic Computing Systems Engineer Larissa, Greece Linux User #358384 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:23:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581116A4DE; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95D643D5E; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net (jn@c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.59.28.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k75HNNuv038806; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:23:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060804182042.U25268@ganymede.hub.org> <44D41605.90509@freebsd.org> <20060805011842.C25268@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060805011842.C25268@ganymede.hub.org> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_BQN1EROku9ARgqP" Message-Id: <200608051323.13484.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.3, clamav-milter version 0.88.3 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Colin Percival , User Freebsd Subject: Re: BSDstats Project v1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:23:27 -0000 --Boundary-00=_BQN1EROku9ARgqP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 05 August 2006 00:21, User Freebsd wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Colin Percival wrote: > > User Freebsd wrote: > >> 'k folks ... the quick and dirty .. actually, not too dirty ... > >> > >> The attached script [...] > > > > Can you make this into a port which users can install? > > I'm not sure, can I? Can ports install into /etc/periodic? Or is there > some other way of doing it? > > If you want to do the initial port and assign MAINTAINER to > scrappy@freebsd.org, I'll maintain it from there ... I'm just not sure > how to deal with installing into non-/usr/local as a port ... :( Here is a sample (working) port. Un-tar the archive under ports/sysutils. It installs the script to ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly and prints a message about how to enable it. Have a look at it, edit all the text entries to make them your own (in particular I didn't do a real pkg-descr), and submit it as a PR (I can assist you with that off-list if you'd like). Feature request: the script should output one line of text indicating success or failure (and to remind people who read their periodic e-mails that it's actually running). JN [note to -questions readers: the attachment probably won't make it to the list] --Boundary-00=_BQN1EROku9ARgqP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:32:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450316A4E2 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03A743D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:32:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iqgrande@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so246478wxd for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:32:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=a5TTzLwB7e94xBQwT/Cx9N6G1gGgUwr34TuZbrQZEoSxH2rwjQhIrP7UnqpWYFABDePyLB6ldAd11i9RYqfxGnrHHe0OoWEJzB/U0hyRFQa1HU+sbzORnvItlvIn8l+OIyEGjXpjnSJhsyw53qV37rW0RnjXe+XVKjBOIylhBj8= Received: by 10.70.51.17 with SMTP id y17mr6275541wxy; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.5? ( [67.191.189.255]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g9sm973565wra.2006.08.05.10.32.09; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44D4D356.8070201@yahoo.gr> References: <200608052333.44364.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <44D4D356.8070201@yahoo.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <91A469DA-A975-4891-B57A-87B64CF94FE3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Anthony Agelastos Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:32:07 -0400 To: apatewna@yahoo.gr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cups USB workaround was working but now fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:32:11 -0000 On Aug 5, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Apatewna wrote: > O/H Ian Moore =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >> It seems that cups now won't recognise the file: setting, yet =20 >> previously it did. I checked back through my logs to see if a =20 >> newer cups port had come out & I'd inadvertently upgraded to it, =20 >> but it seems that's not the case - it's still 1.2.0 >> Using the usb: URI always gives the same result - the job starts =20 >> printing but stops after about 12% and won't go any further. >> Any ideas as to why my cups no longer accepts the file: URI? >> I'm running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2 and my printer is an Epson =20 >> Stylus C61 on a USB port. >> Cheers, > > I just checked http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L397 and CUPS is at =20= > 1.2.2 already. > I also remember a major problem with 1.2.0. See these threads : > > http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D4173&highlight=3Dcups > http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3D42391 > > I remember that the severity of the bug was so great that the 1.2.1 =20= > update was in the ports in a week or so. > I'm not in front of a BSD machine to be sure, but have you upgraded =20= > your ports lately? Cups 1.2.1 should at least be there. No, it is not (unless you know something that I do not). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dcups&stype=3Dall Perhaps you are thinking of the 1.2.0_1 release (I think it went =20 1.2.0_0, 1.2.0_1, and it is now on 1.2.0_2). > > Also, I don't think you are running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2.... =20 > yet! :) > > --=20 > RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens > ----------------------------------------- > Thanasis Rizoulis > Electronic Computing Systems Engineer > Larissa, Greece > Linux User #358384 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-=20 > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:33:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFDA16A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay2.av-mx.com (relay2.av-mx.com [137.118.16.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337A943D76 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:33:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay2.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 348490950 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:33:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 20509 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 17:33:49 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 17:33:49 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D4D67B.8010804@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:33:47 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: apatewna@yahoo.gr References: <200608052333.44364.no-spam@swiftdsl.com.au> <44D4D356.8070201@yahoo.gr> In-Reply-To: <44D4D356.8070201@yahoo.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cups USB workaround was working but now fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:33:58 -0000 Apatewna wrote: > O/H Ian Moore Ýãñáøå: > >> It seems that cups now won't recognise the file: setting, yet >> previously it did. I checked back through my logs to see if a newer >> cups port had come out & I'd inadvertently upgraded to it, but it >> seems that's not the case - it's still 1.2.0 >> Using the usb: URI always gives the same result - the job starts >> printing but stops after about 12% and won't go any further. >> >> Any ideas as to why my cups no longer accepts the file: URI? >> I'm running FreeBSD 5.11-Release-p2 and my printer is an Epson Stylus >> C61 on a USB port. >> >> Cheers, > > I just checked http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L397 and CUPS is at > 1.2.2 already. > I also remember a major problem with 1.2.0. See these threads : > > http://forums.pcbsd.org/viewtopic.php?t=4173&highlight=cups > http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42391 > > I remember that the severity of the bug was so great that the 1.2.1 > update was in the ports in a week or so. > I'm not in front of a BSD machine to be sure, but have you upgraded your > ports lately? Cups 1.2.1 should at least be there. 1.2.0 is what's in the ports tree. See http://www.freshports.org/print/cups-base/ - Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 17:37:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0564116A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay3.av-mx.com (relay3.av-mx.com [137.118.16.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8630F43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:37:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.61] (HELO mx0.av-mx.com) by relay3.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 355357840 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 3826 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 17:37:52 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 17:37:52 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D4D76E.8010506@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:37:50 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Johnson References: <200608041134.35807.david@usermode.org> <200608041447.11069.lists@jnielsen.net> <200608041248.37285.david@usermode.org> In-Reply-To: <200608041248.37285.david@usermode.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:37:54 -0000 David Johnson wrote: > On Friday 04 August 2006 11:47, John Nielsen wrote: > >> You have the permissions fixed, which was half the solution for me >> when I made the upgrade. The other half was to abandon cups' usb >> back-end for the time being, since it doesn't work (as well as it >> used to). The workaround suggested in an earlier thread on this >> subject was to stop cups and manually edit the printers.conf file (in >> /usr/local/etc/cups), replacing the "usb:" portion of the printer URI >> with "file:". This worked for me and several others, although I >> remember posts that it did not work for some. > > It works! Thank you! > > There is one oddity though. The printer "ready" light flashes as normal, > but then the "attention" light flashes. Pressing the "go" button then > prints out the job. According to the printer manual, this means > either "manual feed" or "continuation error". I suspect that somehow > manual feed is getting sent to the printer (even though it isn't set in > cups printer options). A minor annoyance, but one I can live with. I've had this problem when using /dev/ulpt instead of /dev/unlpt. Might be worth a try if you haven't yet. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 19:35:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D570716A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:35:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D647C43D53 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:35:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l35so426838nfa for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:35:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SGqKkh/iPjA+seh/4EiKwatBVKwQRaO4S2mO8F9Q1DTMAjM93x7WIoOzfFqT+44POMC5DkjryU/rC3GHotU1KHPK9AtoiqANls84nwe6QpUeEKzbCadB6OqX5K266xBvFyP6OKB3U45+8uVLyvxvKkWNCwklOpBO4j6VX61tYC4= Received: by 10.78.158.11 with SMTP id g11mr1962878hue; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.185.3 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72cf361e0608051235n5c0e70fobc6f6caad8eeec69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:35:31 +0100 From: "Martin Hepworth" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060803001240.41813.qmail@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44D14C43.10957.1C8B605A@rabing.omc.net> <20060803001240.41813.qmail@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 4TB filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:35:45 -0000 Softupdates removes the issue if havinh to fsck filesystems after and unclean umount..... On 8/3/06, N. Harrington wrote: > > --- Lutz Rabing wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > is someone still working on the "bigdisk" project? > > it becomes > > more an more easy to create disk arrays bigger than > > 2TB ... it > > would be a "really nice to have" feature. > > > > lutz > > > > Nice to have, but I wouldn't want to fsck it! :) > > > Nicole > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away > -- Anon > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 20:01:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB0216A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C946B43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so849903nfe for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:01:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m632/B94p16uPsyMRjyRGhl0US5THICmfVb/X/dZZILzsek5klOsLRrs3FLSl8Z1b6YvpVm2o+6cr1eD8wX2TRoEPPNlbZESfawiI/nL/1W3tLirrJi/u5YkCrGM2++qrClebzPi0EZP8yZ5z+yj6zkK5w5le5YYkGbHOtf7qbg= Received: by 10.48.242.19 with SMTP id p19mr6889419nfh; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 13:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.6 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:01:11 +0100 From: Freminlins To: "Martin Hepworth" In-Reply-To: <72cf361e0608051235n5c0e70fobc6f6caad8eeec69@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <44D14C43.10957.1C8B605A@rabing.omc.net> <20060803001240.41813.qmail@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <72cf361e0608051235n5c0e70fobc6f6caad8eeec69@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4TB filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:01:13 -0000 On 05/08/06, Martin Hepworth wrote: > > Softupdates removes the issue if havinh to fsck filesystems after and > unclean umount..... > No it doesn't. Absolutely not. After an unclean shutdown fsck runs in the background. And sometimes it can't do that. Here's an example: Jul 23 17:54:01 zoe fsck: /dev/amrd0s1g: CANNOT CREATE SNAPSHOT /d1/.snap/fsck_snapshot: File too large Jul 23 17:54:01 zoe fsck: Jul 23 17:54:01 zoe fsck: /dev/amrd0s1g: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. The /etc/defaults/rc.conf file has a comment on this too: background_fsck="YES" # Attempt to run fsck in the background where possible. Frem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 21:31:28 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958A016A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: from darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk [202.59.74.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A787343D58 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: from darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k75LSIUX071811 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 02:28:18 +0500 (PKT) (envelope-from imran@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk) Received: (from imran@localhost) by darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id k75LIBov071177 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Aug 2006 02:18:11 +0500 (PKT) (envelope-from imran) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 02:18:11 +0500 (PKT) From: Imran Imtiaz Message-Id: <200608052118.k75LIBov071177@darkstar.thelakecity.com.pk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: squid with antivirus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:31:28 -0000 I have a router for an internal LAN, i use squid for HTTP and FTP proxy cache and I want to setup an antivirus so when somebody download a file from the internet, the antivirus will scan the file and block it with an error message if the file is infected. I want to ask which is the best software for this ? Regards, Imran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 20:42:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623F716A4DE for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vesselinpeev@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F8443D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:42:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vesselinpeev@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.169.28]) by bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:42:33 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:42:33 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.169.200 by by114fd.bay114.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:42:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.72.209.94] X-Originating-Email: [vesselinpeev@hotmail.com] X-Sender: vesselinpeev@hotmail.com From: "Vesselin Peev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:42:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2006 20:42:33.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD6CFD60:01C6B8CF] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:52:13 +0000 Subject: What is the equivalent of glibc's __libc_freeres? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:42:34 -0000 Hello, The glibc C language runtime has an internal function called __libc_freeres, which frees all resources used internally by the runtime. What is the equivalent in libc? Regards, Vesselin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 21:57:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6038716A4E0 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C50543D7B for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 21:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G9U8t-0005JX-CD for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:57:11 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G9U8r-0007kB-3z for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: <44D51431.4060409@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:57:05 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <44k65nnx5e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44k65nnx5e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: portmanager man page online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 21:57:24 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Chris Whitehouse writes: > >> Searching for portmanager in the online man pages doesn't get >> anything. Should it? > > Sure. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports+6.1-RELEASE > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > So it does, but a search for portmanager from http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi doesn't get anything, at least in my browser. The message returned is Sorry, no data found for `portmanager'. and the URL is now http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE&format=html which curiously contains 'apropos'. I double checked and I did have the Man radio button selected. Doing the same thing with apropos selected gets the same message and the URL is http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE&apropos=1&format=html Also it is not listed in the Section 1 section index. Am I just looking in the wrong place? 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 30 10:47:21 BST 2006 root@box.13dog.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.1 Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 22:28:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBF016A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA2843D49 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 22:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from localhost (monrovll-cuda1-24-53-251-44.pittpa.adelphia.net [24.53.251.44]) (AUTH: LOGIN wmoran, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:28:50 -0400 id 00056407.44D51BA2.0001708D Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 18:28:12 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Australian National University Message-Id: <20060805182812.cb162a0b.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1625c9cf0608050643t7212e35dk8a96760ca2e8adc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> <1625c9cf0608050643t7212e35dk8a96760ca2e8adc0@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.6 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: uraquasi@hotmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for an emulator (was Re: Fwd: failure notice) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 22:28:52 -0000 Australian National University wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any > recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) > that run > on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode > that > emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a > given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we > are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit > Processor Why on Earth would you ask such a question on a FreeBSD mailing list? That makes about as much sense as a solar powered flashlight. Additionally, what's with the subject? However, Bochs does what you need, and much to my surprise, it now runs on Windows as well as Unix: http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 23:26:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC86016A4DF for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay1.av-mx.com (relay1.av-mx.com [137.118.16.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2242143D53 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:26:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.55] (HELO mx3.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 340491651 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:26:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 25643 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 23:26:15 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by mx3.av-mx.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 23:26:15 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D52915.7000304@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:26:13 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <44D3A113.1040705@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> <44k65nnx5e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44D51431.4060409@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <44D51431.4060409@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmanager man page online? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:26:17 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Chris Whitehouse writes: >> >>> Searching for portmanager in the online man pages doesn't get >>> anything. Should it? >> >> Sure. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports+6.1-RELEASE >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > So it does, but a search for portmanager from > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi doesn't get anything, at least in my > browser. The message returned is > > Sorry, no data found for `portmanager'. > > and the URL is now > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE&format=html > > > which curiously contains 'apropos'. I double checked and I did have the > Man radio button selected. > > Doing the same thing with apropos selected gets the same message and the > URL is > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portmanager&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.1-RELEASE&apropos=1&format=html > > > Also it is not listed in the Section 1 section index. > > Am I just looking in the wrong place? > > 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Tue May 30 10:47:21 BST 2006 > root@box.13dog.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.1 > > Chris In the right hand drop-down, where it says FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE (or something similar) select FreeBSD Ports 6.1-RELEASE. HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 23:30:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B463616A4E9 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay3.av-mx.com (relay3.av-mx.com [137.118.16.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691443D55 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from [137.118.16.60] (HELO mx2.av-mx.com) by relay3.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 355589270 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:30:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 5936 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 23:30:42 -0000 Received: from dsl17146.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.65?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.146) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 23:30:42 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.146 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17146.ywave.com Message-ID: <44D52A20.7000209@ywave.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:30:40 -0700 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060730) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <44d49ea4.017a61bd.2f25.ffffcd2cSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> <1625c9cf0608050643t7212e35dk8a96760ca2e8adc0@mail.gmail.com> <20060805182812.cb162a0b.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20060805182812.cb162a0b.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: uraquasi@hotmail.com, Australian National University , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for an emulator (was Re: Fwd: failure notice) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:30:44 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > Australian National University wrote: >> To whom it may concern, >> >> We here at Australian National University are wondering if there are any >> recommended (or any whatseover) simulators or emulators (software) >> that run >> on Windows X86/i386 Intel hardwre in native true standard 32-bit mode >> that >> emulate and provide a fully operational and "ready to boot" system with a >> given runtime of an emulated AMD64 PROCESSOR. Yes, that is not a typo: we >> are looking for a 32-bit EXE that can provide an emulated 64-bit >> Processor > > Why on Earth would you ask such a question on a FreeBSD mailing list? > That makes about as much sense as a solar powered flashlight. > Additionally, what's with the subject? > > However, Bochs does what you need, and much to my surprise, it now runs > on Windows as well as Unix: > http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ > > Enjoy Doesn't QEMU do AMD64 too, or am I misinterpreting x86_64 as AMD64? http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/status.html HTH, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 23:30:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A017716A4E9 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C4643D4C for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:30:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruralriver@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so889466nfe for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GFzMeNf8zSgNm8lo+qdPPbW8Tik0jTPfNdD2UjKtFeUp0a+MhvK1SgoX/VJcOPbYtSelysRlER3sdcuCR+Q+7xEL1wojn0S2fQxEW1M0wm7PM9Ub3SallQfq2IRchOrZbjRIKGUe7Qjz6JnkHCyulvhtEdZMXT6KIcB2V6eNgXU= Received: by 10.78.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2001164hud; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.129.17 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <100416c30608051630h77d99f7dkdcc1e5be23af614b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:30:53 -0400 From: "John Rogers" To: "Colin Percival" In-Reply-To: <44D2DE70.4020002@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <100416c30608031503n721c1583labb86a1e8abe7978@mail.gmail.com> <44D2DE70.4020002@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrade issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:30:56 -0000 Hi, you are right - there was indeed the following messages: kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 And this message appeared starting from the date I ran CFS, an encrypted filesystem. It's a half year old WesternDigital250GB disk. I now disabled dma (was UDMA100 actually) by adding "hw.ata.ata_dma=0" to /boot/loader.conf . Before I saw your reply, I just manually created those old-index etc by following upgrade.sh, and ran the rest of the upgrade.sh from the "Removing schg flag from existing files..." part. After that I have ran portupgrade, portsnap etc, and so far don't see problem. Do I still need to go back to 6.0 and run upgrade.sh? Thanks. On 8/4/06, Colin Percival wrote: > John Rogers wrote: > > Installing new kernel into /boot/GENERIC... done. > > Moving /boot/kernel to /boot/kernel.old... done. > > Moving /boot/GENERIC to /boot/kernel... done. > > Removing schg flag from existing files... > > > > Then my connection to the server froze and I found the server rebooted > > itself. After login I found it was 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE > > #0: Sun May 7 04:32:43 UTC 2006. > > > > Don't know why it rebooted, and my concern it: had it finished > > upgrading? > > Probably not. > > > I looked into the upgrade.sh and found it should continue > > working on files referred in old-index, new-index-nonkern, new-index. > > However none of these files were found in the directory. Also I am > > worried whether the schg flags were recovered. How can I check these? > > Sounds like a generic case of 'system crashed and recently created files > weren't written to disk yet'. I'm really suspicious of the hardware here, > but I'd suggest > 1. mv /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.new > 2. mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel > 3. reboot (back into 6.0-RELEASE) > 4. Run the script again and hope that it manages to finish installing everything > this time. > > Colin Percival > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 5 23:58:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AD816A4DD for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D2C43D46 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 23:58:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75Nw6YM003236 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.13.6+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id k75Nw6DO003235 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:58:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200608052358.k75Nw6DO003235@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:58:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL7] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Will not boot from halt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:58:06 -0000 Hi, The other day I did a complete rebuild by doing a fresh install/CVsup on my office machine and brought it to FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE-p3. The box is a Dell Optiplex GX-270. It is dual booted with Win XP. I didn't make any changes to the XP. Previously, if I did a 'shutdown -h now' it would do the shutdown and stop with a message on the console saying: The Operating system has halted Please press any key to reboot Then I could let it set and either cut the power or hit a key and make it reboot. But. Now, I do the shutdown -h now and it goes down to that halted state with the same message. But, when I hit a key it seems to ignore it and just sits there and seems to do nothing. To reboot then, I have to kill the power and turn it back on. I am not trying to get it to go all the way down to poweroff - just sit there and wait for me to hit a key for a reboot - without doing a poweroff, which worked fine under FreeBSD 4.xxx Has anyone noticed something like this? Is it an OS change/bug or did I probably do something weird when I did the reinstall. It is more of an annoyance than a big problem, but something isn't right. By the way, shutdown -r now seems to work as expected. Also, on another box I have here - A Dell Precision 330 which is currently at FreeBSD 6.0 (also dual booted, but with Win-200x) it seems to work as I expect and as the other one did before the upgrade. ////jerry