From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 13 09:27:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCBC16A41A for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2001:1b20:1:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B94513C457 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (wxklmr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l7D9R6VD013938; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:27:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l7D9R6LI013937; Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:27:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200708130927.l7D9R6LI013937@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <20070810181342.GG83613@tcbug.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Creating and copying jail images X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Josh Paetzel List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:27:14 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > Problem: I need to create a jail image that I can deploy on multiple > servers, ala a generic apache jail or postgresql jail or whatever. I > need to be able to simply explode this image in to a directory and > have it work, I'd also like to be able to compress the image because > it occasionally has to go over lower-speed WAN links. > > Here are the tools that I've investigated and the problems I've had > with them: > > tar, cpio, pax: All 3 of these tools have problems with various > combinations of meta-data, links, and things like device nodes. What exactly is the problem with tar (bsdtar)? It handles hard links, file flags (be sure to specify the -p option when extracting) and everything else that's necessary. By the way, you don't need device nodes anymore because of DEVFS. I think device nodes outside of DEVFS don't work anymore anyway, so they're useless. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." -- Niklaus Wirth From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 14 10:37:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D3416A41A for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ama@ugr.es) Received: from mail1.ugr.es (mail2.ugr.es [150.214.35.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95EC13C481 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ama@ugr.es) Received: from mail1.ugr.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.ugr.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381854BF43 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:04:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from smtp1.ugr.es (smtp1.ugr.es [150.214.20.69]) by mail1.ugr.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940014BF3B for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:04:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: from darwin.ugr.es (darwin.ugr.es [150.214.61.183]) by smtp1.ugr.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D333F202 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:04:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: from ama by darwin.ugr.es with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IKtGS-0005p5-00 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:04:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:04:40 +0200 From: Angel Martin Alganza To: chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070814100440.GA13819@darwin.ugr.es> References: <20070810181342.GG83613@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070810181342.GG83613@tcbug.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: Angel Martin Alganza Cc: Subject: Virtualization versus jails [was Re: Creating and copying jail images] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:37:43 -0000 Hello everybody, On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 01:13:42PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: > I've been searching for a way to create and copy jail images around > for some time now and I've found a solution that works for me and Supposing one doesn't need to run different operating systems or even different kernel versions of the same OS, are there any advantages of virtualization (Xen) over jails? Both can be copied, moved around, switched on/off, replaced with almos 0 downtime, etc. What do you think about that? -- Angel @ Granada, Spain PGP Public key: http://www.ugr.es/~ama/ama-pgp-key 3EB2 967A 9404 6585 7086 8811 2CEC 2F81 9341 E591 ------------------------------------------------------ () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - http://www.asciiribbon.org/ /\ Against all HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 14 13:20:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C4816A41B for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2001:1b20:1:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FD313C481 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (bczgzu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l7EDKT2u085965; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:20:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l7EDKTxJ085964; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:20:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200708141320.l7EDKTxJ085964@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, ama@ugr.es In-Reply-To: <20070814100440.GA13819@darwin.ugr.es> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:20:35 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Virtualization versus jails [was Re: Creating and copying jail ?images] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, ama@ugr.es List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:20:37 -0000 Angel Martin Alganza wrote: > Supposing one doesn't need to run different operating systems or even > different kernel versions of the same OS, are there any advantages of > virtualization (Xen) over jails? Both can be copied, moved around, > switched on/off, replaced with almos 0 downtime, etc. What do you > think about that? Jails don't give you a perfect separation. Jails still run under the same kernel as the host system, and if there's a bug somewhere, you're out of luck. You can also run into various kinds of resource starvation with jails, i.e. jails can use up shared resources. All of that isn't possible (or at least to a much smaller degree) with virtualization solutions (xen, qemu, vmware, whatever), because they run the guest systems in a virtual machine with their own kernel and resources. Having said that, jails are still a good solution for a number of things, depending on your needs, and they do have advantages, too. For example, in general jails have less overhead than virtual machines, and sometimes you want sharing of certain resources, e.g. RAM. That's why you can run thousands of jails on a single server, but when you need virtual machines, you can usually do only a dozen or two. There's also a third possibility: Virtual kernels, such as the vkernel feature of DragonFly BSD. It does not emulate a virtual machine, but allows processes to be run under a completely separate kernel (which itself is running as a process under the "real" kernel). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 14 13:41:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5DA16A421 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CBA13C45E for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7E920B0; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:41:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E461208A; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47C6A8444F; Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:41:04 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200708141320.l7EDKTxJ085964@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:41:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200708141320.l7EDKTxJ085964@lurza.secnetix.de> (Oliver Fromme's message of "Tue\, 14 Aug 2007 15\:20\:29 +0200 \(CEST\)") Message-ID: <86vebikzdb.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ama@ugr.es Subject: Re: Virtualization versus jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:41:10 -0000 Oliver Fromme writes: > Jails don't give you a perfect separation. Jails still run under the > same kernel as the host system, and if there's a bug somewhere, you're > out of luck. You can also run into various kinds of resource > starvation with jails, i.e. jails can use up shared resources. All of > that isn't possible (or at least to a much smaller degree) with > virtualization solutions (xen, qemu, vmware, whatever), because they > run the guest systems in a virtual machine with their own kernel and > resources. In addition, numerous system features are not available or do not work properly in jails. You can't run a DHCP server in a jail, nor can you easily run multiple PostgreSQL servers in separate jails on the same machine. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 16 10:21:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEFE16A41A for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B5C13C494 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so173565wxd for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:21:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oSPWGqSxcqFOC349hfb4e3oh6fF5G7ThKhQC4yFPSWnVZb/K53+SVnza9nND1ph/aFNOoIp8/3KK69x5ncusWXuv8uF4jw0AwjC/tNM7IJmZFDQD6xinwQph6CQwxXIEKOXgjXyjAWULGexg3RQZc+7oIkVIGHtOQsi4p25dwVo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TbdOAA1LlDqheMjMxKwLfvkbXgZyeJEULEXgZrwo1ikBWdit7EnX+SxjQe1K4xHt9iIXRBAWCOa6gABw9fc46l/hyLidt/UvXCcukqeuUNF6UL3qym00LbG/1+cMkMinQPUPi0BY/AyBcpJibJ7G5wKCfqltQEYFfJS7Hp+bH+U= Received: by 10.90.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr1234386agb.1187258068020; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:54:27 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Ubuntu Community Hosted Servers 5 of 8 Compromised X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:21:57 -0000 Hello, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52#head-b009291e4151391137b8f04a53adea995d0ee280 -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 16 10:54:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6695916A41A for ; 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b=LAhv2N+HsuP6CFJDa5ObNRRNumNKe4mi4xBBkhch7ARpyLMUvjW/D1F6DItLfUMrQb3dwqBTCOILQVGpE5qRXgkW8BxGRPPWWl4v8r/lw9QK2blg5ymPnKnpZ+kuYeTMjBZ5T/BeOhwH++4uCEbcLY8m+/CI3nnT6jLZYJS3cPU= Received: by 10.90.27.13 with SMTP id a13mr2167522aga.1187259992489; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.137.3 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:26:32 +0800 From: "Jiawei Ye" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Community Hosted Servers 5 of 8 Compromised X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:54:08 -0000 On 8/16/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: > Hello, > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52#head-b009291e4151391137b8f04a53adea995d0ee280 > > > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ They should switch to *BSD :D -- "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then to the end user it's a duck, and end users have made it pretty clear they want a duck; whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 16 10:55:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CED16A41B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C331913C461 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE6220B0; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:55:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F76A208A; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:55:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E766B8447D; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:55:37 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" References: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:55:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> (Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri's message of "Thu\, 16 Aug 2007 12\:54\:27 +0300") Message-ID: <86ps1nycie.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu Community Hosted Servers 5 of 8 Compromised X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:55:44 -0000 "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" writes: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52#head-b009291e4151391= 137b8f04a53adea995d0ee280 Yes, and? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 16 11:02:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9963816A417 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B81913C468 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so180015wxd for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g5nISkF2Q2/REPwRMI0OQkpMOm10IWCoV4gEvU1tR5K+Rjc/uOEQh805kybFcKi6mqytr5Oof9gLTzcSr9dbxLkgIwgiyHSlSm/LLfE98N1AZ3f3tOg1WkyvG2kiGeojoQo7zsf0sooxjGkBWE2pAHy6mUAPOOZ2aoA5YjcknEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736313C45B for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C9120B0; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:40:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88E8208A; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:40:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 891918447B; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:40:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" References: <499c70c0708160254m61dac77ar1403a2a834669afb@mail.gmail.com> <86ps1nycie.fsf@ds4.des.no> <499c70c0708160401vcc6d218w27177d7ab07fbe0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:40:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <499c70c0708160401vcc6d218w27177d7ab07fbe0e@mail.gmail.com> (Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri's message of "Thu\, 16 Aug 2007 14\:01\:59 +0300") Message-ID: <86lkcbyaew.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ubuntu Community Hosted Servers 5 of 8 Compromised X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:41:06 -0000 "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" writes: >Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > > "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" writes: > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52#head-b009291e415= 1391137b8f04a53adea995d0ee280 > The upgrade was facing kernel issues, and hardware compatibility, they > should switch their server to FreeBSD to make them secured, and with > no upgraded issues ;) Right. Can I have some of what you're smoking? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 17 18:41:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E229916A417 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from supernews.unixathome.org (supernews.unixathome.org [216.168.29.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC5E13C4E7 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7D51704D for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from supernews.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (supernews.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRIIbz9OuZr9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [76.110.86.209]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD21E17059 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E9AB851 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:41:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <46C5B389.28097.B59755D@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: death of a mountain bike X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:41:17 -0000 The bike isn't really dead. I realised after Dru Lavigne thought I'd already written about the USA trip during which I bought this bike.... the bike pre-dates my BSD involvement by about 2 years. http://dan.langille.org/2007/08/13/proflex-957-death-of-a-bike/ -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 17 21:31:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5064D16A419 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc3-cdif2-0-0-cust64.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.106.128.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC8F13C46B for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IM8vf-000GVX-8d; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:00:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:00:23 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Jayton Garnett Message-ID: <20070817210023.GB18339@submonkey.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UK Meeting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:31:22 -0000 --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +0100, Jayton Garnett wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Is there a UK FreeBSD meeting this year? > If so where/when is it? > If not, how many UK(or those willing to travel) FreeBSD users would like = to > arrange one? Wow, I am late to reply, but we folks at freebsd-users@uk.freebsd.org often wish that someone else could get around to arranging one Sign up at http://listserver.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users if you haven't yet. Ceri --=20 That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGxgxmocfcwTS3JF8RAuloAKCvnWH6MNDppKkdpOtqi2qd9NRmrQCdHKrw Kx0I0/0q0HqBrnYRiyCuxWI= =S2NO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --St7VIuEGZ6dlpu13--