From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 01:55:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F516A402 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Z4eHGe=JL=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0627313C487 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Z4eHGe=JL=vvelox.net=v.velox@yourhostingaccount.com) Received: from mailscan56.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.56] helo=mailscan56.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HaMOH-0001gS-Lw for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:40:25 -0400 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8] ident=exim) by mailscan56.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1HaMOH-0008PM-Jo for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:40:25 -0400 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8] helo=authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan56.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1HaMOG-0008Ol-B1; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:40:24 -0400 Received: from cpe-65-185-51-114.columbus.res.rr.com ([65.185.51.114] helo=vixen42) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1HaMOG-000161-D0; Sat, 07 Apr 2007 21:40:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 21:42:53 -0400 From: Vulpes Velox To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20070407214253.0308e955@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20070407065720.GE71995@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200704061837.l36IbNEF071481@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> <20070406194249.GB87327@just.puresimplicity.net> <20070407000510.GB70451@tigerfish2.my.domain> <20070407065720.GE71995@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 0d1ca1697cdb7a831d4877828571b7ab:1570f0de6936c69fef9e164fffc541bc X-EN-AuthUser: vvelox2 Sender: Vulpes Velox X-EN-OrigIP: 65.185.51.114 X-EN-OrigHost: cpe-65-185-51-114.columbus.res.rr.com Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:55:28 -0000 On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:57:21 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2007-Apr-06 19:05:10 -0500, Bruce Burden > wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 02:42:49PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:38:03PM -0400, telmnstr@757.org wrote: > >> > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to find somewhere > >> > >responsible and responsive to buy a server from. It shouldn't > >> > >be > >> > > Have you considered building your own server? I don't > > know that it would be that much different in price, and > > you seem to know what you want. > > The main (only) reason for buying a server instead of building it > would be to have hardware support. I've always wondered why any non-uber small sized IT company can't do this themselves. > >> > Nobody ever got fired for buying Compaq. Or IBM. > >> Except the head of HP. :) > > I wish I was going to be sent on my way with a cool > > $25 million like Carly... > > Senior executives can't lose. Either the company does well and they > get performance bonuses or the company loses tons of money, they > resign or are pushed and get massive golden parachutes. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 18:23:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EB416A40B for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6C713C469 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (c-69-249-95-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.249.95.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l38INqsX070802; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l38INlL6030046; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:23:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l38INlcJ030045; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:23:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200704081823.l38INlcJ030045@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: v.velox@vvelox.net (Vulpes Velox) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 14:23:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20070407214253.0308e955@vixen42> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: All I want is a decent server! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:23:54 -0000 Hi All, Just wanted to thank everyone for the emails... I've decided to combine them all into one : About building it myself - Like has been said, looking for hardware support in a single place. IXSystems/FreeBSDSystems - Have been contacted , all I'll say. Dell - I love them, I buy nothing else for Laptop and Desktop, but I've heard too many horror stories server wise with FreeBSD. HardData/Silicon Mechanics - Thanks, will attempt to contact Needing 5.X load - Yea, its unfortunate but due to many internal reasons I need to. Being a server down / One to blame - EXCUSE ME?? I'm a server down because its *IS* running on the backup machine. As for being the one to blame, seeing that its a setup for my friends/family and I don't overspend besides the fact that it has 3 communications lines, 2 routers, 2 load balancers, 2 web servers in a cabinet in a colo center with 2 30A lines which go to different UPSs... Yea, its my fault I don't have any redundancy. Safari Micro - Contacted, waiting for reply. Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 08:44:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4362B16A408 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2007 08:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0087913C46C for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2007 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1570647ana for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:44:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hCSPX0RUvommGbz6fFdV7VG7SUsyT5cf8l0tjoLAW0d0aJMiHGGjNsG0tF1VpFv+jeqNdaW0SD0yQCxRZmRO2ITR1dYk+JRQwktmHBv0D/NpH3oCwBFwWxpi4lf6nviNWOOEbVnsjtNeypw+GDolF0gTPB57U3ZkZMa7BnkguEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rAdf/cScAj9NTbQTWp50L0/Z72f5zCQZDP4d+bwhNd3iNQ0o9R3IbZ8OB7w2sWwaIb/EVT9Tz+ICxVOp+2YwquyZXcNnHJHWIrzcNAhxg0RYng5AA7u82xHYpvcP3ufl8fiEO809pwSLQza94A5uchbi3RSLMaU2YnnuYfWsNLc= Received: by 10.114.208.8 with SMTP id f8mr2225115wag.1176108296923; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.10 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2007 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:44:56 +0300 From: "George Kontostanos" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, gkontos.mail@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <200704051549.l35FnNTw013723@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200704051549.l35FnNTw013723@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: HP BL460c X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:44:58 -0000 The only thing that makes me feel uncomfortable with -stable is when a security update comes out and I have to update. I always wonder will everything work again. George On 4/5/07, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > George Kontostanos wrote: > > I tested the blades on the AMD platform with the Embedded NC370i Networ= k > > adapter and it works fine under 6-stable. I was wondering if there is > any > > patch that I could apply under 6-2 release for that network adapter. Th= e > > reason I'm asking is because we are talking for 3 servers 2ns and 1mail > and > > it would make me feel better following the release branch. > > I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I've > upgraded a lot of machines from 6.2-Release along RELENG_6 > and haven't had a single problem. In fact some things > seem more stable under RELENG_6 than under 6.2-R, for > example NFS (seems to be faster, too, although I haven't > done any benchmarks). > > YMMV, of course. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch=E4ftsfuehrun= g: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M=FC= n- > chen, HRB 125758, Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Geb= hart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > "When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb." > -- Steve Haflich, in comp.lang.c++ > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 04:37:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC1B16A401 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FEF13C455 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1885608ana for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=e43Ehrr9pKF+Kw/Lbzt1s8uIT5FfBS4fF9MhifSaRBONxhTmiOeDZpbyyqFvNgEuI9FRoiyiQz7IXXQlkgkOIwcoGYhI5c5wPQbJAxLtP87W/9H2mB1Hnecc5/k9PxFpBxppE1YUOls6Ik6Rw4mpfmMZXw0LiYm+ZcHLomDqSpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ANwsGy8KY6W8SMFRRBVdLF9+Ke18S+aIKOH2WroXvvoixtoxOxL7yRQEF2SdaVsIXLieu/Mxkrr/qc/2gk9zQrOUTKUHk6cUm8Z/6sj9NEVo8L8QW1uNd9Ax6YidSxCB3eUyLYlVHLWyFId3P5YcbKhCVd4SEc4Kl/e7ouSf45Q= Received: by 10.100.34.16 with SMTP id h16mr4570140anh.1176179841295; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:37:21 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:37:22 -0000 Dear All: I have bought the HP ProLiant DL380 G5 (SAS HD and RAID Controller) By using "diskinfo -t", the information of HD performace is: ========================================================= /dev/da1 512 # sectorsize 146778685440 # mediasize in bytes (137G) 286677120 # mediasize in sectors 35132 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 32 # Sectors according to firmware. Seek times: Full stroke: 250 iter in 2.578974 sec = 10.316 msec Half stroke: 250 iter in 2.099233 sec = 8.397 msec Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 2.277551 sec = 4.555 msec Short forward: 400 iter in 2.018527 sec = 5.046 msec Short backward: 400 iter in 2.636941 sec = 6.592 msec Seq outer: 2048 iter in 2.052169 sec = 1.002 msec Seq inner: 2048 iter in 2.052077 sec = 1.002 msec Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 2.547162 sec = 40202 kbytes/sec middle: 102400 kbytes in 3.151423 sec = 32493 kbytes/sec inside: 102400 kbytes in 3.342559 sec = 30635 kbytes/sec ========================================================= I have an old server, only SCSI HD and RAID Controller. By using "diskinfo -t", the information of HD performace is: ========================================================= /dev/da0 512 # sectorsize 73543163904 # mediasize in bytes (68G) 143638992 # mediasize in sectors 8941 # Cylinders according to firmware. 255 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Seek times: Full stroke: 250 iter in 2.968575 sec = 11.874 msec Half stroke: 250 iter in 2.218879 sec = 8.876 msec Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 3.569766 sec = 7.140 msec Short forward: 400 iter in 1.798317 sec = 4.496 msec Short backward: 400 iter in 1.872876 sec = 4.682 msec Seq outer: 2048 iter in 0.258105 sec = 0.126 msec Seq inner: 2048 iter in 0.458751 sec = 0.224 msec Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 1.181019 sec = 86705 kbytes/sec middle: 102400 kbytes in 1.405735 sec = 72844 kbytes/sec inside: 102400 kbytes in 2.100786 sec = 48744 kbytes/sec ========================================================== Generally, the performace of SAS in FreeBSD is far worse than SCSI in FreeBSD. Is it normal? How can I do to improve the performance of SAS HD in FreeBSD? Thank you From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 05:16:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6059A16A403 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2582413C45B for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1892791ana for ; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:16:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PtnBvXGN/dSAMcXG+SF4lNLbf005zbctfnh5Bgb8uzD07qI0MNzbRpVziALBs2GWdBgNPqi5Uc1quf+vw1pGfYBq7ZA8+ndTaQ1JL/44DEsEkJMWQ5vB5xESInOQ2Eqls4o40+5bkxEo2PtqSz6aa0VDyJ40LDNfDKJ+q1GFPjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Eo2QX8sTUZHZly7FqLv7rTqcmvxrH9mARhYQHK/r0MyD86/Q+pjmuHrEFhJzkpfVsP4dVOWmWw2YwfvMjZRiaDux681C4CXSGGjj5Z1a0op/+j80Y48hSH8iF206ucKV/XRpBJzvMAyHPEP+qATd2sPouW+Fh7dcV/OStX8R9lg= Received: by 10.100.173.19 with SMTP id v19mr4578117ane.1176182211395; Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Apr 2007 22:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:16:51 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Performance Test X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:16:52 -0000 Dear All: Is there any ported software that can be used to test the performance of hardware in FreeBSD? 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Terry Knight RAC Motoring Services (RACMS) Company No: 1424399 8 Surrey Street Norwich NR1 3NG United Kingdom +44-7024094975 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 19:17:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2F16A404 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9867813C468 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3AJHmOi003105; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:17:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l3AJHmgr003104; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:17:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:17:48 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw Message-ID: <20070410191748.GB849@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance Test X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:17:55 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-Apr-10 13:16:51 +0800, Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: >Is there any ported software that can be used to test the performance of >hardware in FreeBSD? "make buildworld" or see /usr/ports/benchmarks. Maybe if you provided a bit more information about what you wanted to do, we could be more specific. --=20 Peter Jeremy --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFGG+Lc/opHv/APuIcRAliBAJsGQS3nkJZeBz33WSYjwFbngdhAwACY4WAt 2HMd0VYN9KUra4WMxgd4tg== =ydxM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 21:05:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C8116A400 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B5513C4C2 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HbMfC-0002BD-Uq for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:10:03 +0200 Received: from 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.44.29]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:10:02 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:10:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:06:41 +0200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig21ECA908569EDBD6FBBBA16A" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Performance Test X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig21ECA908569EDBD6FBBBA16A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > Dear All: > Is there any ported software that can be used to test the performance o= f > hardware in FreeBSD? ports/benchmarks/unixbench seems popular. --------------enig21ECA908569EDBD6FBBBA16A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGG+5RldnAQVacBcgRAl2RAJ9oN9P0zjtckUVQGbkC36Mlo27MLwCgztjp iZ6ALpAfmP06XZ5f0aJIXaw= =UUuI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig21ECA908569EDBD6FBBBA16A-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 21:05:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B4A16A400 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113BF13C4C3 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HbMa1-0001Ss-A0 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:04:41 +0200 Received: from 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.44.29]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:04:41 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:04:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:04:17 +0200 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAB8D48E3DDFE1E2317A08838" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-44-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:05:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAB8D48E3DDFE1E2317A08838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > Generally, the performace of SAS in FreeBSD is far worse than SCSI in > FreeBSD. > Is it normal? How can I do to improve the performance of SAS HD in Free= BSD? There's a huge number of possible reasons - unless you're testing the same controller (I think there exist SAS+SCSI controllers, I might be wrong), you can't conclude that the SAS interface is less supported. For what it's worth, I've got approximately the same numbers on DL380 G5, but I've attributed them to 2.5" small form factor drives. 2x 2.5" 10k RPM, CISS hw RAID1 2x 3.5", 7.5k RPM, soft RAID1 Full stroke 3.863 ms 5.942 ms Half stroke 3.929 ms 6.186 ms Quarter stroke 3.998 ms 5.700 ms Short forward 3.889 ms 4.060 ms Short backward 4.715 ms 4.748 ms Seqential outer 1.011 ms 0.167 ms Sequential inner 1.013 ms 0.177 ms Read transfer, outside 43.6 MB/s 61.2 MB/s Read transfer, middle 38.8 MB/s 54.8 MB/s Read transfer, inside 32.8 MB/s 34.9 MB/s The 3.5" drives were SATA in a different machine (Dell's). It might be that the CISS driver is unreasonably slow, which is kind of possible given the suspicious lower bound of about 1 ms in seeks. Maybe something is throttling the I/O rate? --------------enigAB8D48E3DDFE1E2317A08838 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGG+3BldnAQVacBcgRAqrwAKCaQKnetnrqmq6TRJMHwAoqEb9WmQCePcTd p4G/GDPCGq7N1BjZI0EBkdY= =HauS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAB8D48E3DDFE1E2317A08838-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 10 23:22:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0CD16A406 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C0513C43E for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3ANMGl4068169; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:22:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "George Kontostanos" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:56 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200703301545.48686.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704101914.57290.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:22:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3064/Tue Apr 10 12:25:23 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP BL460c X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:22:19 -0000 On Thursday 05 April 2007 09:55, George Kontostanos wrote: > Hi John, > > I tested the blades on the AMD platform with the Embedded NC370i Network > adapter and it works fine under 6-stable. I was wondering if there is any > patch that I could apply under 6-2 release for that network adapter. The > reason I'm asking is because we are talking for 3 servers 2ns and 1mail and > it would make me feel better following the release branch. You can probably just use sys/dev/mii/* and sys/dev/bce/* from 6.x-stable with a 6.2 tree and it should work ok. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 06:19:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9751E16A400 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AF513C469 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so88784ana for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:19:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TrwrvT27XtDNBYFSxoIPKIyPEncBi2ZvQk0JBW567qP9cHz44FuBlH68+u3mj+9nK1n2r4WU8ylA61X+lBEZYahnXl1pcq+UjZjfL6YHpRulAiGX28/T09ifEBqYLAyNrI9OLMe+XKULPWjRS5E4t1A5FtYUaBVAYjUBK38Gmqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DPpnk/UwvTejEz5uQM0+hDTlMq3OAnYuCwBK4VSfqU0BK22HiqKBJ14oZFKktm9Beph1j//az9+D19xyIxAZS99n5rHQdZaTjgQ0lJcMQNiVwV9DUKav5MaGCM+ocS6LU4NNyPPDTuVrHilI7OYcaMEGx4QktVkR9RS0CfHJ1xI= Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr128842waa.1176272362405; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.166.10 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:19:22 +0300 From: "George Kontostanos" To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200704101914.57290.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200703301545.48686.jhb@freebsd.org> <200704101914.57290.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP BL460c X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:19:23 -0000 Thanks, I will try that. George On 4/11/07, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Thursday 05 April 2007 09:55, George Kontostanos wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > I tested the blades on the AMD platform with the Embedded NC370i Network > > adapter and it works fine under 6-stable. I was wondering if there is > any > > patch that I could apply under 6-2 release for that network adapter. The > > reason I'm asking is because we are talking for 3 servers 2ns and 1mail > and > > it would make me feel better following the release branch. > > You can probably just use sys/dev/mii/* and sys/dev/bce/* from 6.x-stable > with a 6.2 tree and it should work ok. > > -- > John Baldwin > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 08:50:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585716A419 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ec@dns2.anthonyschool.org) Received: from dns2.anthonyschool.org (h158.29.102.166.ip.alltel.net [166.102.29.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61B713C4B7 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ec@dns2.anthonyschool.org) Received: by dns2.anthonyschool.org (Postfix, from userid 1049) id 0A00B73FEE1; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:44:07 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: postcards1001 Message-Id: <20070411064407.0A00B73FEE1@dns2.anthonyschool.org> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:44:07 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: You've received a greeting from a family member! 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Regards, 1001 Postcards http://www.postcards.org/postcards/ References 1. http://80.14.64.19/~el/postcard.exe From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 09:45:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1AB16A404 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7396913C469 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so133769ana for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fN22cFIc7iivMvpSxSBGEzeoz83NTPjG7hNah1zwvxXXkHVljM3Ud7uPtp0gg9TM/hDTrcAmjeLTy+WK3L2MsVtAG29qKv4PuAM56VmSgd1IkLEg8R9u+y1hdoCV5p8kJYESdITYaMCx1YqTBsscNZl3syTdR6SPcFZtC6BgkAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ogoXXHgyZjl8WOKAnk5ox5PdYy5oosWeGB4YmXr8fvTONRPWHT+H8LseKi2A0SJh25Wb+xfuj655z+LEVRXm3q5Cthj7olfFD7P5CcC77tSUxHkVpyVrX+SmqBiZZSisT3/3HD9iJzQzG3NOKG578b6syan07Tj9aezpwkYsB90= Received: by 10.100.132.16 with SMTP id f16mr269633and.1176284704583; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704110245n30b2859ew7673406e33b61b10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:45:04 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:45:05 -0000 Hi: Thank you for your response. Ther performance of your server is significantly better than mine. The SAS Chip of my HP ProLiant DL380 G5 is Smart HP Smart Array P400. It uses the FreeBSD driver ciss0 I think that there is only one difference between your HP server and mine. I configure my SAS HD as RAID 0. Will this affect the performance? Thank you 2007/4/11, Ivan Voras : > > Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > > > Generally, the performace of SAS in FreeBSD is far worse than SCSI in > > FreeBSD. > > Is it normal? How can I do to improve the performance of SAS HD in > FreeBSD? > > There's a huge number of possible reasons - unless you're testing the > same controller (I think there exist SAS+SCSI controllers, I might be > wrong), you can't conclude that the SAS interface is less supported. > > For what it's worth, I've got approximately the same numbers on DL380 > G5, but I've attributed them to 2.5" small form factor drives. > > 2x 2.5" 10k RPM, CISS hw RAID1 2x 3.5", 7.5k RPM, soft RAID1 > Full stroke 3.863 ms 5.942 ms > Half stroke 3.929 ms 6.186 ms > Quarter stroke 3.998 ms 5.700 ms > Short forward 3.889 ms 4.060 ms > Short backward 4.715 ms 4.748 ms > Seqential outer 1.011 ms 0.167 ms > Sequential inner 1.013 ms 0.177 ms > Read transfer, outside 43.6 MB/s 61.2 MB/s > Read transfer, middle 38.8 MB/s 54.8 MB/s > Read transfer, inside 32.8 MB/s 34.9 MB/s > > The 3.5" drives were SATA in a different machine (Dell's). It might be > that the CISS driver is unreasonably slow, which is kind of possible > given the suspicious lower bound of about 1 ms in seeks. Maybe something > is throttling the I/O rate? > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 12:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEB116A406 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A552E13C4BD for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so169007ana for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JTunGY1huEOiZnDylEjz9ZcXWEaL6SD99K3S61cWFXtFgM+3xj2WCkmD/wStkN72YUfc78rQMNsKkav/lWIOsouRLLYKAqHbB4vkr5y8jdaeuvVbnSgiEMtKDHFeHc8NAsTqkhH7phiicWW55wU+OBx4Au9HHj9hk53Qx5SPEkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tn9yK7zZf2k/jxBSWdNIuXbMvrPGhUFjYk8VEG/r5Bd//vq9xHyPO5+bSq3oNutlsBb+LnFZBBpSI69+j9h4bYRLfRjpvoNHDDfN6O7vE6t9Tn4cx02JRck4xuOeZAHti6sX5ImYqES9qUuPjBlLLRcpj67IQwvyTnMRq6tGHCw= Received: by 10.100.127.1 with SMTP id z1mr345720anc.1176293361656; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704110509o17941a25tc1d4b8080f0841e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:09:21 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: <461CB798.8010501@fer.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> <224a745a0704110245n30b2859ew7673406e33b61b10@mail.gmail.com> <461CB798.8010501@fer.hr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:09:23 -0000 2007/4/11, Ivan Voras : > > Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > > Hi: > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > > Ther performance of your server is significantly better than mine. > > Only in seek times, but this may be an artifact of RAID1. Do you use > 2.5" or 3.5" disks? 2.5" > The SAS Chip of my HP ProLiant DL380 G5 is Smart HP Smart Array P400. > > Mine was E200i. > > > It uses the FreeBSD driver ciss0 > > Same here. > > > I think that there is only one difference between your HP server and > > mine. > > > > I configure my SAS HD as RAID 0. > > > > Will this affect the performance? > > RAID should be much faster than RAID1 for the kind of tests diskinfo > performs. > > Do you mean that RAID 0 perform better than RAID 1? How about RAID 5? Thank you From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 12:11:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D07616A408 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9DD13C4BF for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so169812ana for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:11:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ryH8r3HWJpyakse3x6KXRKudnXEFZ7+vTkkKvePpmG1//tqsGr9/t0HktxPNG6fe4Ls38zLPvq420HdYlX59GKdmBsmo+Ab8IupkpEWQpl60WrN8KZ9Hbyt7B1yi5GjQ3MZ9D1Q73KvvcMssqDfUiUiGfBqA/EIESaDUq12KCug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I/K2VLdaxV+9N9+rQfyM+ablpcA7qsOExkuE9ncySYKOkDUDRaZYfyk0HzieWXd3eo+03PoUZamxc0qTXVTDv9ljSqXW8eKQNL/nWCf9xnACWkuJC8W6vC/xg9YW9Xqu5zrgByn3HVRseVQKwqep2gHkglxVbpVrH+I+A9l0gd8= Received: by 10.100.141.13 with SMTP id o13mr345531and.1176293513141; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704110511m1a3e681av5a35a23c879c2492@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:11:53 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0704092216m1615bb72m85715d8839f88b78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Performance Test X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:11:54 -0000 Thank all for these information. 2007/4/11, Ivan Voras : > > Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > > Dear All: > > Is there any ported software that can be used to test the performance of > > hardware in FreeBSD? > > ports/benchmarks/unixbench seems popular. > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 12:40:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764CD16A402 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C6213C48A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from [161.53.72.113] (lara.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.113]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id l3BCnKLT023056; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:49:20 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <461CD74F.4020103@fer.hr> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:40:47 +0200 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> <224a745a0704110245n30b2859ew7673406e33b61b10@mail.gmail.com> <461CB798.8010501@fer.hr> <224a745a0704110509o17941a25tc1d4b8080f0841e6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <224a745a0704110509o17941a25tc1d4b8080f0841e6@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig944B08B1B71F83DEC2F1A7F6" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig944B08B1B71F83DEC2F1A7F6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > Do you mean that RAID 0 perform better than RAID 1? >=20 > How about RAID 5? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels --------------enig944B08B1B71F83DEC2F1A7F6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHNdVldnAQVacBcgRAqNkAKDSfWaRR7CBb73p/5YFJ+UHXJ6UrgCdGqqm xgIoa5qdWbc4hiJ4rFoKJvY= =pWUC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig944B08B1B71F83DEC2F1A7F6-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:32:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E22016A405 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CA513C448 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3BEW6M3075077; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:13:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4614F070.2000302@fx-services.com> In-Reply-To: <4614F070.2000302@fx-services.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704111013.28425.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3067/Wed Apr 11 06:21:12 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Robin Vley Subject: Re: SMP crashes / reboots 5.4 with CPanel X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:10 -0000 On Thursday 05 April 2007 08:49, Robin Vley wrote: > Hi! > > I posted this to the FBSD-Questions mailinglist, because I'm completely > not sure if this is hardware or software. Last time I got some good > pointers there, but since I'm 100% in the dark where this is coming > from, I crosspost it here. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 01 > fault virtual address = 0x98 > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06b7f1e > stack pointer = 0x28:0xece5f730 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xece5f774 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 69885 (dcpumon) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > Uptime: 2d22h1m13s > Dumping 2047 MB (2 chunks) > chunk 0: 1MB (159 pages) ... ok > chunk 1: 2047MB (523904 pages) 2031 2015 1999 1983 1967 1951 1935 1919 > 1903 1887 1871 1855 1839 1823 1807 1791 1775 1759 1743 1727 1711 1695 > 1679 1663 1647 1631 1615 1599 1583 1567 1551 1535 1519 1503 1487 1471 > 1455 1439 1423 1407 1391 1375 1359 1343 1327 1311 1295 1279 1263 1247 > 1231 1215 1199 1183 1167 1151 1135 1119 1103 1087 1071 1055 1039 1023 > 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 735 > 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 447 > 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 159 > 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 > > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 > 165 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); > (kgdb) backtrace > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 > #1 0xc063efca in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:399 > #2 0xc063f396 in panic (fmt=0xc0870bd4 "%s") at > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:555 > #3 0xc082e16c in trap_fatal (frame=0xece5f6f0, eva=0) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:831 > #4 0xc082de52 in trap_pfault (frame=0xece5f6f0, usermode=0, eva=152) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:742 > #5 0xc082da02 in trap (frame= > {tf_fs = 8, tf_es = 40, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = 4, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp > = -320473228, tf_isp = -320473316, tf_ebx = 4098, tf_edx = -1002850048, > tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = > -1066696930, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -320473100, tf_ss = > 1017}) > at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:432 > #6 0xc0817d0a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 > #7 0xc06b7f1e in vn_lock (vp=0x0, flags=4098, td=0xc439b900) at > atomic.h:149 > #8 0xc05eee46 in procfs_doprocfile (td=0xc439b900, p=0xc9068830, > pn=0xc35f3900, sb=0x4, uio=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/fs/procfs/procfs.c:73 > #9 0xc05f3f5b in pfs_readlink (va=0x4) at pcpu.h:162 So a bug in procfs. I would try 6.2. I do know of one procfs/vnode locking bug fixed in 6.x after 6.2, btw. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:32:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395C216A52A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFE813C45B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3BEW6M6075077; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:02 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <1175864703.4058.20.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1175864703.4058.20.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704111032.02374.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:32:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3067/Wed Apr 11 06:21:12 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Alan Garfield Subject: Re: Porting a Linux ethernet driver to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:32:21 -0000 On Friday 06 April 2007 09:05, Alan Garfield wrote: > Hello all! > > I'm posting here because I cannot find enough information elsewhere. > > I've got a Sun Fire V20z (re-badged NewISys E2100) which has a little > dedicated Service Processor on board running Linux. The "SP" can > communicate via IPMI and also by Ethernet via two small fifo buffer in > the PRS via the LPC. > > I have the GPL source for the so-called 'jnet' device which is basically > a small Ethernet-looking driver that wraps around these 256 byte PRS > buffers and a single interrupt. > > -- FROM THE GPL DRIVER COMMENTS > > Jnet is a ethernet adapter driver. As such, it provides what appears > to be a typical ethernet adapter interface which the platform can use > to send/receive IP traffic to the SP. The actual physical medium is > the PRS, which resides on the LPC bus, and provides two 256 byte fifo's > along with an interrupt and a status register. > > When an interrupt is received, the status register can be read, which > will indicate either a Data Available (DAV), or a Data Acknowledge > (DAK). We can then choose to read or write data to the fifo, and thus > facilitate communication between the SP and Platform. > > Because the fifo's provided by the PRS are only 256 bytes, our packet > size is limited. As a result, the only feature we can't support is > DHCP, since a DHCP packet is 313 bytes. > > -- > > I'd like to port this driver to FreeBSD but I cannot find any decent > examples of a basic Ethernet driver. Most have miibus which I don't need > because there is no PHY, the loopback is clone-able and seems to simple > and most of the others are all so different from each other I cannot > really tell where to start. > > Can someone point me in the direction of an example or the relevant man > pages I should be reading. > > The device driver for Linux seems quite simple and clearly defined, but > I cannot find a similar driver that I can hack apart. > > Any help would be gratefully appreciated. I think de(4) is kind of simple if you ignore all the ifmedia handling stuff. You basically need to alloc an ifnet, fill out if_init and if_start with routines to bring up the interface and to drain the tx queue, and then pass it to ether_ifattach(). When you get packets, you feed them to the stack by calling ifp->if_input(). You will probably need to set if_mtu during attach to your 256 byte MTU. And you should add an if_ioctl routine as well. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 14:40:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367E916A406 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@fromorbit.com) Received: from thing1.auspcmarket.com.au (mail.fromorbit.com [203.31.169.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F208B13C4C1 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@fromorbit.com) Received: from [192.168.1.99] (c220-239-255-86.rivrw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.255.86]) by thing1.auspcmarket.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AC15C19; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:40:44 +1000 (EST) From: Alan Garfield To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200704111032.02374.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <1175864703.4058.20.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> <200704111032.02374.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:40:43 +1000 Message-Id: <1176302443.5057.17.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porting a Linux ethernet driver to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:40:45 -0000 On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:32 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > I think de(4) is kind of simple if you ignore all the ifmedia handling stuff. > You basically need to alloc an ifnet, fill out if_init and if_start with routines > to bring up the interface and to drain the tx queue, and then pass it to > ether_ifattach(). When you get packets, you feed them to the stack by calling > ifp->if_input(). You will probably need to set if_mtu during attach to your > 256 byte MTU. And you should add an if_ioctl routine as well. Thanks John, I've been heavily looking at if_ed.c and if_de.c. I've got the basics worked out and the driver loading. But I'm struggling with getting the resources sorted out. I'd like to not hard-code the io ports and irq into the driver and instead get their details from the acpi bus, but I'm having trouble understanding how this is done. PnP, PCI and bus_* seem like magic to me! Thanks again, Alan. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 11 22:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4200916A408 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E545513C45A for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3BMTaGY078349; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:29:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Alan Garfield Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:55:58 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <1175864703.4058.20.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> <200704111032.02374.jhb@freebsd.org> <1176302443.5057.17.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1176302443.5057.17.camel@hiro.auspc.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704111255.59305.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:29:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/3072/Wed Apr 11 16:32:06 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Porting a Linux ethernet driver to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:29:40 -0000 On Wednesday 11 April 2007 10:40, Alan Garfield wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:32 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > > I think de(4) is kind of simple if you ignore all the ifmedia handling stuff. > > You basically need to alloc an ifnet, fill out if_init and if_start with routines > > to bring up the interface and to drain the tx queue, and then pass it to > > ether_ifattach(). When you get packets, you feed them to the stack by calling > > ifp->if_input(). You will probably need to set if_mtu during attach to your > > 256 byte MTU. And you should add an if_ioctl routine as well. > > Thanks John, > > I've been heavily looking at if_ed.c and if_de.c. I've got the basics > worked out and the driver loading. But I'm struggling with getting the > resources sorted out. I'd like to not hard-code the io ports and irq > into the driver and instead get their details from the acpi bus, but I'm > having trouble understanding how this is done. > > PnP, PCI and bus_* seem like magic to me! Ok. If this is an ACPI device, you can get the resources at rids 0...N. rid 0 of SYS_RES_MEMORY will be the first memory resource returned by _CRS, rid 1 will be the second, etc. Thus, for example, suppose you have a device with 3 resources: a memory resource, an I/O port resource, and then another memory resource. The first resource would be SYS_RES_MEMORY rid 0, the second resource would be SYS_RES_IOPORT rid 0, and the last resource would be SYS_RES_MEMORY rid 1. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 06:18:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1316A400 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8941E13C4B0 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from [161.53.72.113] (lara.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.113]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id l3BAXtLT005878; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:33:57 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <461CB798.8010501@fer.hr> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:25:28 +0200 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> <224a745a0704110245n30b2859ew7673406e33b61b10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <224a745a0704110245n30b2859ew7673406e33b61b10@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig07823BA531A513F2CDC1AC08" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:18:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig07823BA531A513F2CDC1AC08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > Hi: >=20 > Thank you for your response. >=20 > Ther performance of your server is significantly better than mine. Only in seek times, but this may be an artifact of RAID1. Do you use=20 2.5" or 3.5" disks? > The SAS Chip of my HP ProLiant DL380 G5 is Smart HP Smart Array P400= =2E Mine was E200i. > It uses the FreeBSD driver ciss0 Same here. > I think that there is only one difference between your HP server and= > mine. >=20 > I configure my SAS HD as RAID 0. >=20 > Will this affect the performance? RAID should be much faster than RAID1 for the kind of tests diskinfo=20 performs. --------------enig07823BA531A513F2CDC1AC08 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHLeYldnAQVacBcgRAoDOAJ9msx7YaXhQvt4s+kHn3zew6GkNMACg77I+ wzhf5hTJGL3qHYiwsArQ9cw= =aI9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig07823BA531A513F2CDC1AC08-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 12 16:42:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71616A402 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5303C13C45B for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from biogary@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so646849ana for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=e7WLASMsO4LxTbp6aFxieYrpwd2eog56Dev9ZpMTIfcicKa5d2/owVtAg0sTStwDsivM0vBj9dXLUJhXkEbIXaE/0dRdxol3CuTncPXoCiz3BeATjWs7qjOdKU4bmwh5qKGzvx8pcKTivgCdAygBy0WMOqxDw99AyugZegvZP0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Sl3fxm6Je1/AOS1Sp9u5z0I021buPVKHl/RVzFiYa8Si5tA/D4zNlGYPUCBkiG1+B0aruQF/7BRIWN7SJODBxNVDo4+/kJWyR+CZMJ9rFvVg0mynjOqziyU5NPvgCSeDXHJr0/0TgSygbMI9JSkLmvk3G3ZBkxyVal4zQzyXR6Y= Received: by 10.100.166.14 with SMTP id o14mr1544536ane.1176396132354; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.17 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <224a745a0704120942i19c42927o9826b0343938d093@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:42:11 +0800 From: "Tzu-Hua Wang" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <224a745a0704092137h67f5f463w6b355535a6b8415f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the performance of SAS is not better than SCSI in FreeBSD, WHY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: thwang@mail.nhcue.edu.tw List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:42:13 -0000 Hi: When using 'dmesg' command, it shows that da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 419946MB (860051248 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 65535C) Oh, my goodness. My SAS HD is only the SCSI-0 device. I think this is the major reason. Why? Can you give me a hand? Problem of configuration on the RAID Card? I am sorry, I am really new to the RAID system. Thanks 2007/4/11, Ivan Voras : > > Tzu-Hua Wang wrote: > > > Generally, the performace of SAS in FreeBSD is far worse than SCSI in > > FreeBSD. > > Is it normal? How can I do to improve the performance of SAS HD in > FreeBSD? > > There's a huge number of possible reasons - unless you're testing the > same controller (I think there exist SAS+SCSI controllers, I might be > wrong), you can't conclude that the SAS interface is less supported. > > For what it's worth, I've got approximately the same numbers on DL380 > G5, but I've attributed them to 2.5" small form factor drives. > > 2x 2.5" 10k RPM, CISS hw RAID1 2x 3.5", 7.5k RPM, soft RAID1 > Full stroke 3.863 ms 5.942 ms > Half stroke 3.929 ms 6.186 ms > Quarter stroke 3.998 ms 5.700 ms > Short forward 3.889 ms 4.060 ms > Short backward 4.715 ms 4.748 ms > Seqential outer 1.011 ms 0.167 ms > Sequential inner 1.013 ms 0.177 ms > Read transfer, outside 43.6 MB/s 61.2 MB/s > Read transfer, middle 38.8 MB/s 54.8 MB/s > Read transfer, inside 32.8 MB/s 34.9 MB/s > > The 3.5" drives were SATA in a different machine (Dell's). It might be > that the CISS driver is unreasonably slow, which is kind of possible > given the suspicious lower bound of about 1 ms in seeks. Maybe something > is throttling the I/O rate? > > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 14 23:56:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4EF16A402 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liquid06@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (smtp3.hushmail.com [65.39.178.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8467413C44B for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liquid06@hushmail.com) Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com (localhost.hushmail.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6248FA3278 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailserver8.hushmail.com (mailserver8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.61]) by smtp3.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailserver8.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1562FDA826; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:30:31 -0400 To: Cc: From: Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20070414233033.1562FDA826@mailserver8.hushmail.com> Subject: Trouble with Sound Driver... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:56:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Can anyone help me solve this problem? Can't get the sound device to work yet it seems to be supported? none0@pci0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x103e147b chip=0x26688086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 Not sure which sound drivers to load.. since there listed in 2 areas. 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