From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 01:06:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7A616A400 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbryant@elgia.com) Received: from www.itsmedia.com (elgia.com [207.97.221.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E10213C4A5 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbryant@elgia.com) Received: from [172.16.0.101] (unknown [74.254.36.2]) by www.itsmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80502F1909 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:43:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:42 -0500 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:06:22 -0000 Several months ago I was using Freesbie 1.x to dd a harddrive across the network as a drive duplication effort. This worked 7 computers got the image. I'm trying to do this again so I got the new Freesbie release 2.0 and fired it up across the computers and tried something simple such as: dd if=/dev/ad0 bs=1m | nc othercomputer 10000 on the image provider nc -l 10000 | dd of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m on the computer to receive the image. I received an operation not permitted. My first thought was they must be mounted. a quick check, and it seems they weren't. Next, am I really root? And sure enough I was. After a bit of discussion in #freesbie on freenode got me to set kern.geom.debugflags to 16 and I was able to write to ad0 like I had previously done. Yet when I tried to write to an individual slice I was presented with the same error. Anyone have any clue ? The eventual goal is to have a mass imaging all at once with dd, nc and tee From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 01:59:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70C916A400 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A079913C428 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 01:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (jn@c-76-23-109-98.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.23.109.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l141xoqM065294 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 20:59:46 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702030205.00661.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200702030205.00661.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_T4TxFYz1+/MqKjP" Message-Id: <200702032059.47090.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: wireless + ndis on Compaq TC1000 revisited X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:59:52 -0000 --Boundary-00=_T4TxFYz1+/MqKjP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 03 February 2007 02:05, John Nielsen wrote: > This is a bit of a followup to my post of over a year ago: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-November/020289.ht >ml > > I've been playing with FreeBSD on the TC1000 Tablet PC again lately and > brought it up to 6-STABLE. Compaq still has the same (Windows) drivers > for the built-in wlan device as they did the last time, and it still > doesn't work with ndis (ndisgen succeeds but the module causes a panic > when it is loaded). > > However today I was able to locate an alternate driver for the card on > one of the "secondhand" Windows driver websites. It's an NDIS 5.1 driver > that works with my hardware under Windows XP, but it doesn't seem > terribly modern (it comes with its own utility for setting the wireless > settings). > > Under FreeBSD, ndisgen produced a module without any problem, and this > one _doesn't_ case a panic when loaded. And it only sometimes causes a > panic when trying to configure the interface (possibly just a race > condition at boot). > > I'm now able to configure the interface and see it associate on both > ends. When I attempt to get a DHCP lease, the DHCP server sees the > request and sends an offer but the tablet never receives it for some > reason. So it seems I can send (on Layer 2 at least) but not receive. > Layer 3 doesn't work in either direction, presumably because the tablet > never gets any ARP replies. > > I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with similar situations and/or > ideas for workarounds or troubleshooting strategies (or even vague > theories). The files I'm using are netvnpci.inf and > pcifvnet.sys--a "FastVNET PCI 11M Network Adapter driver" from ATMEL. In case anyone's interested (Milan O, are you out there?), I got this working (for basic values of "working"). I didn't actually get anywhere with the NDIS 5.1 (WinXP) driver, but I can send _and_ receive using the NDIS 5.0 (Win2k) driver. The driver is a pseudo-ethernet driver (from the days before Windows had 802.11 support) so it has some warts, but working is better than not, IMO. I actually had the same problem with this one as I did with the other one (could send but not receive) until I disabled usbd. No idea why that matters, but running usbd definitely makes the driver stop receiving packets. This might be related to the issues I was having with the XP driver, but the same workaround (disabling usbd) didn't have any effect with that one. For anyone who might want to do the same thing, here's what I did: Download Atmeldrivers.zip (9.7M) from DriverGuide.com (registration required). Extract and go to the "USB Adapter/Driver and Utility/Drivers/PCI/win982k" directory. Run ndisgen using NETVNpci.INF and pcifvnet.sys. Copy the resultant pcifvnet_sys.ko into /boot/modules. Add 'pcifvnet_sys_load="YES"' to /boot/loader.conf. Add 'ifconfig_ndis0="DHCP"' to /etc/rc.conf. Create an /etc/rc.early file with contents similar to this: #!/bin/sh sysctl dev.ndis.0.ESSID="myssid" ifconfig ndis0 up sleep 5 Apply the attached patch to src/sys/dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c, then rebuild and reinstall the ndis and if_ndis modules. This might be optional (not 100% sure), but without it you'll get lots of complaints about unknown ethernet speeds. The patch just tells the driver to treat all the wireless speeds as 10baseT. Reboot. I'm not sure if setting the ESSID is necessary or even useful, since the card will associate fine without it. I also don't know if or how well WEP works using the registry-key sysctls. I'm still open to thoughts on why the WinXP driver wouldn't work or why this one only works without usbd, but I'm probably done messing with it for a little while at least. JN --Boundary-00=_T4TxFYz1+/MqKjP Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="if_ndis.c.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="if_ndis.c.patch" --- if_ndis.c.orig Sat Feb 3 15:51:11 2007 +++ if_ndis.c Sat Feb 3 17:23:27 2007 @@ -2007,6 +2007,18 @@ case 100000: ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_10_T; break; + case 10000: + ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_10_T; + break; + case 20000: + ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_10_T; + break; + case 55000: + ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_10_T; + break; + case 110000: + ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_10_T; + break; case 1000000: ifmr->ifm_active |= IFM_100_TX; break; --Boundary-00=_T4TxFYz1+/MqKjP-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 05:11:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B4C16A401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 05:11:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlist@cogeco.ca) Received: from fep7.cogeco.net (smtp2.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4EA13C4A8 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlist@cogeco.ca) Received: from buddha.cogeco.ca (d141-2-106.home.cgocable.net [24.141.2.106]) by fep7.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837D32D7E for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:25:49 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:25:37 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Paul In-Reply-To: <20070129172519.DB40C88DF@fep9.cogeco.net> References: <20070129172519.DB40C88DF@fep9.cogeco.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070204042549.837D32D7E@fep7.cogeco.net> Subject: Re: Problem with s5000PAL using a SRCS16 in Raid 5 with 5 * 500gig drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 05:11:51 -0000 Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions how to better diagnose this problem? I have installed a trimmed down custom kernel with a rebuild of the latest stable version and it did not make a difference. It would be great to get to the bottom of the reason for the odd freezing from time to time as the system is not "stable" in its current state. What tools do people use to diagnose such problems as I have never had this problem in Freebsd? Thanks, Paul >I have been having troubles installing the amd64 platform on an >Intel S5000pal system with the SRCS16 Raid controller using Raid 5 >with 5 * 500gig drives. > >In order to get it to install I had to split the raid setup into two >logical arrays. I guess it was too close to the 2TB limit as it was >giving me read sector error when booting. > >However I now have it booting but it gets stuck at the > >Attempting to mount / (the root partition). > >This goes on for like 20 minutes and then it finally proceeds. This >seems odd and clearly is a problem to mount the small / root >partition that is only a few gigs big. > >Does anyone have an idea what is going on here? > >I also noticed it with adding a user it added the user but got stuck >for like 10 minutes before proceeding. > >This system has 16GIG of ram using the amd64 platform and has 2 dual >core cps running. > >I installed the centos just to see if there were any problems with >this operating system (in case this was hardware related) but it >worked 100% without any fuss. The problem is I want to use Freebsd >:) So I do not believe this is hardware related. > >If anyone reading this has set up a S5000PAL system can they let me >know what settings they used to have a successful installation? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 07:10:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D138C16A400 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavlu@somewherein.net) Received: from lakepoint.domeneshop.no (smtp01.domeneshop.no [194.63.248.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBDE13C46B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavlu@somewherein.net) Received: from shanaz ([203.189.245.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by lakepoint.domeneshop.no (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l146m29C029871 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:48:04 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c74828$61419c50$c454010a@shanaz> From: "S. M. Ibrahim \(Lavlu\)" To: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:45:30 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freebsd on laptop (len problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:10:52 -0000 i installed freebsd 6 on a old laptop, it's p3 600 mhz. everthing goes fine, but after installation, my len is not working. It's = IBM 10/10 EtherJet CardBus Adapter and connected in pcmci . it's not = detected. Any idea ? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 17:57:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F152116A401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhoward@drivenasa.com) Received: from drivenasa.com (tarmac.he.net [216.218.254.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1D0613C4BC for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhoward@drivenasa.com) Received: from 69.239.113.46 ([69.239.113.46]) by drivenasa.com for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 09:39:34 -0800 Message-ID: <45C61AA3.8050604@drivenasa.com> Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:40:51 -0800 From: Jim Howard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 6.1 to 6.2 freebsd-update binary upgrade on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:57:24 -0000 I've used the 6.0 to 6.1/6.1 to 6.2 upgrade scripts on several i386 machines (from here: http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html) and it has worked flawlessly- and so easy! Today I updated a new amd64 server from 6.1 to 6.2 and after the process completed, I noticed that I ended up with a GENERIC kernel instead of SMP like I had before. Since I've done the upgrade process several times before on other machines, I was a little on autopilot, but I believe the upgrade script did recognized I had kernel/smp component installed. I checked the stable archives and didn't see anything similar to my problem. Is there a step I missed, or did the upgrade script not correctly recognize my SMP AMD? Are there any additional logs from the freebsd-update script I should provide? If I were to roll back the update with freebsd-update, would I have do to it twice- once for the userland updates and once for the kernel? Here's the first part of the log for the SMP 6.1 kernel: Feb 4 10:20:23 server syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:15:57 UTC 2006 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: root@bloom.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 (2004.56-MHz K8-class CPU) Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20f51 Stepping = 1 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Features=0x78bfbff Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: Features2=0x1 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: AMD Features=0xe2500800 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: AMD Features2=0x1 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: real memory = 5368709120 (5120 MB) Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: avail memory = 4115480576 (3924 MB) Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 Feb 4 10:20:23 server kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 And after doing the upgrade process: Feb 4 10:45:47 server syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 08:32:24 UTC 2007 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: root@portnoy.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 (2004.56-MHz K8-class CPU) Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20f51 Stepping = 1 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Features=0x78bfbff Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: Features2=0x1 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: AMD Features=0xe2500800 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: AMD Features2=0x1 Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: real memory = 5368709120 (5120 MB) Feb 4 10:45:47 server kernel: avail memory = 4115161088 (3924 MB) Thanks, -Jim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 20:16:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E6716A403; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0797913C46B; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 20:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A521A4D84; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:16:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D098851588; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:15:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:15:58 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070204201558.GA46483@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: bz@freeBSD.org Subject: LOR in ipdivert and devfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:16:02 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I get the following lock order reversals at boot on this 6.2 system. Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: lock order reversal: Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: 1st 0xc08422a0 cdev (cdev) @ kern/kern_conf.c:61 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: 2nd 0xc3a4510c sleep mtxpool (sleep mtxpool) @ kern/kern_prot.c:1877 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: kdb_backtrace(c07cc880,c3a4510c,c07c7bf8,c07c7bf8,c07c83f9,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x2e Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: witness_checkorder(c3a4510c,9,c07c83f9,755,c0817780,...) at witness_checkorder+0x6d2 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: _mtx_lock_flags(c3a4510c,0,c07c83f0,755,c3ed0778,...) at _mtx_lock_flags+0xac Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: crhold(c3fd0880,40,20,c07cecea,def0f814,...) at crhold+0x2d Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: make_dev_credv(c0817780,0,c3fd0880,0,0,...) at make_dev_credv+0xf6 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: make_dev_cred(c0817780,0,c3fd0880,0,0,...) at make_dev_cred+0x42 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: pty_clone(0,c3fd0880,def0f8f6,5,def0f868,...) at pty_clone+0x124 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: devfs_lookupx(def0f998,def0f91c,299,1,c080a120,...) at devfs_lookupx+0x39d Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: devfs_lookup(def0f998,def0f998,c3cc5000,c3cc5000,0,...) at devfs_lookup+0x4c Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: VOP_LOOKUP_APV(c080a120,def0f998,c3f2cd80,c3f2cd80,0,...) at VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0xa6 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: lookup(def0fbc4,0,c07d13d8,be,c057ab2c,...) at lookup+0x4de Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: namei(def0fbc4,c07c9fca,27d,c3f2cd80,c3f2cd80,...) at namei+0x42d Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: vn_open_cred(def0fbc4,def0fcc4,0,c3fd0880,4,...) at vn_open_cred+0x2be Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: vn_open(def0fbc4,def0fcc4,0,4,def0fb60,...) at vn_open+0x33 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: kern_open(c3f2cd80,bfbfdd80,0,3,0,...) at kern_open+0xc8 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: open(c3f2cd80,def0fd04,c,420,3,...) at open+0x36 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: syscall(3b,3b,3b,8077f14,8077ee0,...) at syscall+0x2a2 Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x2837e727, esp = 0xbfbfdd4c, ebp = 0xbfbfdda8 --- This one appears to be new although there are other ipdivert-related reversals known. Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: lock order reversal: Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: 1st 0xc3dea090 inp (divinp) @ netinet/ip_divert.c:354 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: 2nd 0xc0892700 in_multi_mtx (in_multi_mtx) @ netinet/ip_output.c:306 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: kdb_backtrace(c07cc86f,c0892700,c07cc2c2,c07cc2c2,c07d5799,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x2e Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: witness_checkorder(c0892700,9,c07d5799,132,c07d382c,...) at witness_checkorder+0x6d2 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: _mtx_lock_flags(c0892700,0,c07d5790,132,162,...) at _mtx_lock_flags+0xac Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: ip_output(c3c85100,0,ddcd4b24,22,0,...) at ip_output+0x4cc Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: div_output(c3bbade8,c3c85100,c3bd49b0,0,ddcd4c00,...) at div_output+0x1d3 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: div_send(c3bbade8,0,c3c85100,c3bd49b0,0,...) at div_send+0x5d Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: sosend(c3bbade8,c3bd49b0,ddcd4c34,c3c85100,0,...) at sosend+0x6e7 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: kern_sendit(c3ba2180,3,ddcd4cb4,0,0,...) at kern_sendit+0x12f Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: sendit(c3ba2180,3,ddcd4cb4,0,bfbdeb60,...) at sendit+0x1ab Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: sendto(c3ba2180,ddcd4d04,18,8053000,6,...) at sendto+0x5b Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: syscall(3b,3b,3b,bfbdeb40,2,...) at syscall+0x2a2 Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: --- syscall (133, FreeBSD ELF32, sendto), eip = 0x28145083, esp = 0xbfbdeaac, ebp = 0xbfbeeb58 --- Kris --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFxj7+Wry0BWjoQKURAinZAKDgpK0b6s7AMuYD8BS/oVuxxkEiRwCfagX/ UhlAOIWMSP53hhxvrtmhnYg= =jygu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 21:02:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7A516A400 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antik@bsd.ee) Received: from a5.virtuaal.com (a5.virtuaal.com [195.222.15.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1234113C48E for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antik@bsd.ee) Received: from pc49.host50.starman.ee ([62.65.242.49] helo=[192.168.2.101]) by a5.virtuaal.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HDnCV-0002Yp-Q6 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:39:00 +0200 From: Andrei Kolu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:38:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <002301c74828$61419c50$c454010a@shanaz> In-Reply-To: <002301c74828$61419c50$c454010a@shanaz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702042138.52923.antik@bsd.ee> X-Virtuaalcom-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Virtuaalcom-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-Virtuaalcom-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Virtuaalcom-MailScanner-From: antik@bsd.ee X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a5.virtuaal.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bsd.ee X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: freebsd on laptop (len problem) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:02:55 -0000 On Sunday 04 February 2007 08:45, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote: > i installed freebsd 6 on a old laptop, it's p3 600 mhz. > everthing goes fine, but after installation, my len is not working. It's > IBM 10/10 EtherJet CardBus Adapter and connected in pcmci . it's not > detected. Any idea ? _______________________________________________ I had similar problemm with Belkin PCMCIA card: rl0: PCMCIA card tried to initialize with wrong I/O address and I had to look what configuration in got with windows. Changed I/O and it started working in FreeBSD without any problem. /boot/loader.conf # Belkin cardbus NIC hw.cbb.start_32_io="64512" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 4 21:25:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B7E16A401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3600F13C442 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JCY00BANJGKJYE0@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JCY00B27JGDMEB1@pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JCY00713JGCYOD1@l-daemon> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:24:13 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 994 invoked from network); Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:24:05 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:24:05 +0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:24:04 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <45C61AA3.8050604@drivenasa.com> To: Jim Howard Message-id: <45C64EF4.5070704@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <45C61AA3.8050604@drivenasa.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061227) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.1 to 6.2 freebsd-update binary upgrade on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:25:52 -0000 Jim Howard wrote: > I've used the 6.0 to 6.1/6.1 to 6.2 upgrade scripts on several i386 > machines (from here: > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-11-26-freebsd-6.1-to-6.2-binary-upgrade.html) > and it has worked flawlessly- and so easy! > > Today I updated a new amd64 server from 6.1 to 6.2 and after the process > completed, I noticed that I ended up with a GENERIC kernel instead of > SMP like I had before. This is a known bug. In short, the FreeBSD Update script uses `uname -i` to figure out if you have a GENERIC or SMP kernel installed; this works fine on i386, but for some reason the amd64 SMP kernel has an ident of "GENERIC". This will be fixed before FreeBSD 6.3. > If I were to roll back the update with freebsd-update, would I have do > to it twice- once for the userland updates and once for the kernel? No, just one rollback run should be sufficient. Downgrading is easier than upgrading, since you don't start running the new kernel until you reboot. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 00:57:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0F916A407 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7849D13C4A7 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l150uxIW095031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:27:00 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Stanislav Sedov Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:26:53 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702011345.50585.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070201230902.4c526d4d.stas@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20070201230902.4c526d4d.stas@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1265715.g1IfacRMZm"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702051126.56015.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loader hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:57:02 -0000 --nextPart1265715.g1IfacRMZm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 02 February 2007 06:39, Stanislav Sedov wrote: > > Interestingly the hang only occurred when booting the installed version= - > > when booting from the CD it worked perfectly.. > > That's because loader won't touch hadrdrives when booting from CD. Hmm, I would expect it to at least enumerate them. I could be wrong of course :) > > Anyone seen anything similar? Any suggestions for debugging? :) > > Have you tried to boot anything else (Linux, Windows, etc)? Probably, > the Host adapter's BIOS is broken, so try to update it to the latest > version. No I haven't tried booting anything else except DOS. I just tried updating the BIOS - no luck.. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1265715.g1IfacRMZm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFxoDX5ZPcIHs/zowRAlXHAJoD7I0jkgEJP7cyViC/e2VsXUxXNwCdHtBC 8nbtTFCTXOeGCd4j0MnEOH0= =tX0f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1265715.g1IfacRMZm-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 07:26:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD7B16A400 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phillip@philderbeast.com) Received: from ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1339513C48D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phillip@philderbeast.com) Received: from ppp241-11.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.0.100]) ([121.44.241.11]) by ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Feb 2007 17:41:26 +1030 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,280,1167571800"; d="scan'208"; a="44732594:sNHT19412736" Message-ID: <45C6D88C.8050500@philderbeast.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:11:08 +1100 From: Phillip Ledger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Changing portsnap servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: phillip@philderbeast.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:26:42 -0000 I have just set up a new freeBSD 6.2 server and im trying to change the port snap server to use my ISP's mirrored copy as this dosent incure me any charges however after editing the portsnap.conf to point to there server im getting errors. currently im using SERVERNAME = mirror.internode.on.net I have also tryed vairiose combination of the path on the server (e.g. SERVERNAME = mirror.internode.on.net/pub/FreeBSD/) to where the snapshot is located.howver these result in an error message "bad flag in substituete command" can anyone help me? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 10:18:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D23616A401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dom@helenmarks.co.uk) Received: from mailhost.graphdata.co.uk (mailhost.graphdata.co.uk [195.12.22.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAAC13C461 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dom@helenmarks.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.graphdata.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24E9114020 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at graphdata.co.uk Received: from mailhost.graphdata.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.graphdata.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xwfTzq7VuLeG for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gdc083.internal.graphdata.co.uk (gdc083.internal.graphdata.co.uk [192.168.0.86]) by mailhost.graphdata.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DE9C114023 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:18:06 +0000 From: Dominic Marks To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:18:10 -0000 On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:42 -0500 Sean Bryant wrote: > Several months ago I was using Freesbie 1.x to dd a harddrive across the > network as a drive duplication effort. This worked 7 computers got the > image. I'm trying to do this again so I got the new Freesbie release 2.0 > and fired it up across the computers and tried something simple such as: > > dd if=/dev/ad0 bs=1m | nc othercomputer 10000 on the image provider > > nc -l 10000 | dd of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m on the computer to receive the image. > > I received an operation not permitted. My first thought was they must be > mounted. a quick check, and it seems they weren't. > Next, am I really root? And sure enough I was. After a bit of discussion > in #freesbie on freenode got me to set kern.geom.debugflags to 16 and I > was able to write to ad0 like I had previously done. Yet when I tried to > write to an individual slice I was presented with the same error. > > Anyone have any clue ? The eventual goal is to have a mass imaging all > at once with dd, nc and tee Check out G4U (NetBSD based) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Dominic From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 12:10:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B6516A405 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D055C13C474 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp149-137.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [121.44.149.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l15CAmu9023973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:40:49 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, phillip@philderbeast.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:40:42 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45C6D88C.8050500@philderbeast.com> In-Reply-To: <45C6D88C.8050500@philderbeast.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1244524.LoimRUPx7r"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702052240.43748.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Subject: Re: Changing portsnap servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:10:52 -0000 --nextPart1244524.LoimRUPx7r Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 05 February 2007 17:41, Phillip Ledger wrote: > I have also tryed vairiose combination of the path on the server (e.g. > SERVERNAME =3D mirror.internode.on.net/pub/FreeBSD/) to where the snapshot > is located.howver these result in an error message "bad flag in > substituete command" 1) I don't think Internode provide a portsnap mirror 2) You can just use the -s argument to portsnap to pick a mirror. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1244524.LoimRUPx7r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFxx7D5ZPcIHs/zowRAmeVAJoDDTXDr6C8mdLmVbKQM6lomHfKZQCePYzp tzc6G4U72EffIWi9mzkNXug= =sbfY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1244524.LoimRUPx7r-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 12:31:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3530916A409 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FB113C442 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1228555uge for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:31:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UoDIA/hWh1B8KXG4Yop0gtnCfAg8nkRas9yQ4ktr0Axxy7mUpv9ab3MDRDaTipDKwyYRDqq4UGWW5Oc0lQrijNNTBC/kpHrbrdwqEjq7BL3rhIbBXHLBTMUKXFNAyZja8bBY2YLt20Boft30lINKgetd5lHL/b1hnT8CweUgrr8= Received: by 10.66.244.11 with SMTP id r11mr8696879ugh.1170678675330; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.248.4 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:31:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:31:14 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:31:17 -0000 Hello gentlemen, I have a QLogic FC card in a FreeBSD, connected to a CX300 storage which sometimes looses connection with no aparent reason. If someone had lived a similar problem or know of something that would help diagnose the cause, I would like to hear. When the problem happens all I get in the logs is: Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Name Server Database Changed Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Firmware State Ready> Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 126 (Loop 0x7e) Port ID 0xfffffe (role (none)) Arrived Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x200500051e034ad8 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x100000051e034ad8 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: 2Gb link speed/s Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Loop ID 255, Port ID 0x10500, Loop State 0x2, Topology 'F Port' Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 255 (Loop 0xff) Port ID 0x10500 (role Initiator) Arrived Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x210000e08b925d0e Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Name Server Database Changed Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Firmware State Ready> Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 126 (Loop 0x7e) Port ID 0xfffffe (role (none)) Arrived Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x200500051e034ad8 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x100000051e034ad8 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: 2Gb link speed/s Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Loop ID 255, Port ID 0x10500, Loop State 0x2, Topology 'F Port' Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 255 (Loop 0xff) Port ID 0x10500 (role Initiator) Arrived Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x210000e08b925d0e Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x200000e08b925d0e Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Fabric Device @ PortID 0x10400 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Fabric Device @ PortID 0x10500 Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 0 (Loop 0x1) Port ID 0x10000 (role Target) Departed Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x500601603022db3d Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x50060160b022db3d Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Retained login of Target 1 (Loop ID 0x2) Port 0x10400 and later, FreeBSD freezes (sometimes it panics). It is not very often that it happens, and it is under completly random circunstances (sometimes high load, sometimes the lowest load, on different hours, etc). -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 15:02:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D9216A402 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slewis@ajboggs.com) Received: from central.ixn.com (central.ixn.com [65.19.132.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690913C442 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slewis@ajboggs.com) Received: from central.ixn.com (nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by central.ixn.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l15EpOCF002774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by central.ixn.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l15EpOxO002773 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 09:51:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: central.ixn.com: nobody set sender to slewis@ajboggs.com using -f Received: from office.ixn.com (office.ixn.com [68.23.74.57]) by www.ajboggs.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:51:23 -0500 From: "Stephen A. Lewis" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.23.74.57 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on central.ixn.com Subject: Trouble Mounting Seagate HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:02:11 -0000 I am having issues mounting a USB Seagate 300MB HD any suggestions. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 15:14:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B8B16A405 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4ADD13C442 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (nmrgri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l15FDR34085186; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:13:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l15FDRLF085185; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:13:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:13:27 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200702051513.l15FDRLF085185@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, slewis@ajboggs.com In-Reply-To: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:13:33 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Trouble Mounting Seagate HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, slewis@ajboggs.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:14:50 -0000 Stephen A. Lewis wrote: > I am having issues mounting a USB Seagate 300MB HD any suggestions. I suggest you let us know what exactly the issues are. Did you plug it in and it installed Vista on your PC? Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, USt-Id: DE204219783 Any opinions expressed in this message are personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix GmbH & Co KG in any way. FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." -- Doug Gwyn From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 15:56:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F1016A407 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@magma.ca) Received: from mx1.magma.ca (mx1-3.spamtrap.magma.ca [209.217.78.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1DA13C4BD for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@magma.ca) Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2.internal.magma.ca [10.0.10.12]) by mx1-3.spamtrap.magma.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l15FYDDi020251; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from kkmeyhy7ba1b1d (ottawa-hs-64-26-176-88.s-ip.magma.ca [64.26.176.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.magma.ca (Magma's Mail Server) with ESMTP id l15FYCAF000578; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:34:13 -0500 From: "Kevin K." To: "'Stephen A. Lewis'" , References: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> In-Reply-To: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:34:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c7493b$1e623840$5b26a8c0$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcdJNsLhcxbvAkBgQi2xrzLF1sGepQABDTZQ Content-Language: en-us X-magma-MailScanner-Information: Magma Mailscanner Service X-magma-MailScanner: Clean X-Spam-Status: Cc: Subject: RE: Trouble Mounting Seagate HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:56:46 -0000 Stephen A. Lewis wrote: > I am having issues mounting a USB Seagate 300MB HD any suggestions. Maybe its time to get a new HD? 300 megs is pretty small! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:05:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8649816A401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128C113C4A5 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1280383uge for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oVkHYGRFldUhs239rtiQRe1JKhEwvR/7s+9yesfLs/Q2cBp8xsCrKM6t7Sgi2l0/aq8+UAgrpowwPp92bIO9Ob73t+H29wZoofanw8dGWXGWlFtDgl8mAtEanL9Y5CPkaUNebc2ZMiPaF6KgG/mRAkYcGtHVP9wwlwLcCAteQT4= Received: by 10.66.243.4 with SMTP id q4mr8912676ugh.1170691498115; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.248.4 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:04:58 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:05:00 -0000 On 2/5/07, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Helpful information would be: > > a) Release > b) Connection Topology > > It looks like you're going through a switch. Your short term solution > will be to zone your box and the CX300 together excluding all else. > > A longer term solution is for me to MFC the new SAN evaluation code > which is a bit less harsh. You are right, I am going through a switch. It is a 6.2-STABLE as of Feb 2nd. Is this code scheduled to be MFC'd? -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:06:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD3316A401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1966613C4A5 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16741B10D29 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:06:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.125] (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88E41B10D23 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:06:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:06:16 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: Subject: ifconfig carp1 destroy = kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:06:18 -0000 Hi all, This combination of commands lead my freebsd servers to kernel panic. ifconfig bge0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig bge0 alias 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig carp create ifconfig carp create ifconfig carp0 192.168.1.222/24 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass somekey ifconfig carp1 10.1.1.222/24 vhid 2 advskew 0 pass somekey - to this point everything is ok - ifconfig carp1 destroy - at this point this will cause kernel panic. I tested with ifconfig carp1 delete before destroy but the result is the same. tested on freebsd 6.2 pre-release i386 SMP and freebsd 6.2 release amd64 SMP - in both cases kernel panic. This seems very similar to this PR - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=92776 I'm going to test on 6.2 stable from today, but I'm not very optimistic. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x24 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0555bcd stack pointer = 0x28:0xe4b77bd4 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe4b77be8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 14 (swi1: net) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 7m2s Cannot dump. No dump device defined. aac0: shutting down controller...done P.S. should I open new PR or just follow up to pr #92776 ? -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:25:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024CE16A412 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A9D13C4B5 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l15GE07h082018; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:14:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l15GDxgb047898; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:14:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l15GDxsK047897; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:13:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:13:59 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Eduardo Meyer Message-ID: <20070205161359.GA47839@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:25:57 -0000 On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:04:58PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote.. > On 2/5/07, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >Helpful information would be: > > > > a) Release > > b) Connection Topology > > > >It looks like you're going through a switch. Your short term solution > >will be to zone your box and the CX300 together excluding all else. > > > >A longer term solution is for me to MFC the new SAN evaluation code > >which is a bit less harsh. > > You are right, I am going through a switch. I would really recommend to use zoning on a FC fabric, even after Matt has updated the code zoning is a good idea going forward. > It is a 6.2-STABLE as of Feb 2nd. > Is this code scheduled to be MFC'd? > > -- > =========== > Eduardo Meyer > pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com > profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- end of quoted text --- -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:26:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3BC16A407 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydianconcepts@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C123513C4BB for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydianconcepts@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1285985uge for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:26:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JEDXNRaFSyD+HanWwp/9HTxdZCsZDQoVwGJ2XTs3PgE7XEDTQJ+NgcqcqpFJrHC/HfMkbEI8ZcwdSmBOIaEorv+v7ehXC7NBqEyZoIydNLg7AxSCzg7tn+YT1TQgKuwG3I1w2k0Q3NKSQcax0Jc05ZnMTDYWD04aCuBd/FsKlU4= Received: by 10.78.17.4 with SMTP id 4mr1110701huq.1170691230202; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.199.19 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:00:30 -0800 From: "Matthew Jacob" To: "Eduardo Meyer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:26:59 -0000 Helpful information would be: a) Release b) Connection Topology It looks like you're going through a switch. Your short term solution will be to zone your box and the CX300 together excluding all else. A longer term solution is for me to MFC the new SAN evaluation code which is a bit less harsh. On 2/5/07, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > Hello gentlemen, > > I have a QLogic FC card in a FreeBSD, connected to a CX300 storage > which sometimes looses connection with no aparent reason. If someone > had lived a similar problem or know of something that would help > diagnose the cause, I would like to hear. > > When the problem happens all I get in the logs is: > > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Name Server Database Changed > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Firmware State Ready> > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 126 (Loop 0x7e) Port ID > 0xfffffe (role (none)) Arrived > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x200500051e034ad8 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x100000051e034ad8 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: 2Gb link speed/s > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Loop ID 255, Port ID 0x10500, > Loop State 0x2, Topology 'F Port' > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 255 (Loop 0xff) Port ID > 0x10500 (role Initiator) Arrived > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x210000e08b925d0e > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Name Server Database Changed > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Firmware State Ready> > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 126 (Loop 0x7e) Port ID > 0xfffffe (role (none)) Arrived > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x200500051e034ad8 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x100000051e034ad8 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: 2Gb link speed/s > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Loop ID 255, Port ID 0x10500, > Loop State 0x2, Topology 'F Port' > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 255 (Loop 0xff) Port ID > 0x10500 (role Initiator) Arrived > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x210000e08b925d0e > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x200000e08b925d0e > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Fabric Device @ PortID 0x10400 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Fabric Device @ PortID 0x10500 > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Target 0 (Loop 0x1) Port ID > 0x10000 (role Target) Departed > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Port WWN 0x500601603022db3d > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: Node WWN 0x50060160b022db3d > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device > Feb 5 01:01:37 mailsrvr kernel: isp0: Retained login of Target 1 > (Loop ID 0x2) Port 0x10400 > > and later, FreeBSD freezes (sometimes it panics). > > It is not very often that it happens, and it is under completly random > circunstances (sometimes high load, sometimes the lowest load, on > different hours, etc). > > > -- > =========== > Eduardo Meyer > pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com > profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:30:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE72216A400 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0640213C4A3 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 46810 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2007 14:08:16 -0200 Received: from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. 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(lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br@201.58.76.173) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 14:08:14 -0200 Message-ID: <45C75536.5020200@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:03:02 -0200 From: Felippe de Meirelles Motta Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:30:03 -0000 Hi people, Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during the boot ? Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is above hold mfid0: on mfi0 mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal My hardware informations are: Dell Poweredge 840 BIOS A01 Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 3 HDs in RAID 5 I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. Thanks! :) -- Atenciosamente, Felippe de Meirelles Motta FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:32:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E67C16A400 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBB913C47E for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35819EB5CD8; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:32:45 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j5NHdBNKdUyp; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:32:32 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (unknown [61.49.184.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DFBEB5C0B; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:32:32 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=STKbZQ+slF2VcaAAWb+QCrJxNotS32vKA65L0IWameIoG4kKo0kiqQHDZ+hhvfhGO ORBXJSAfmma5sM8FKBGyA== Message-ID: <45C75C17.5000105@delphij.net> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:32:23 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br References: <45C75536.5020200@freebsdbrasil.com.br> In-Reply-To: <45C75536.5020200@freebsdbrasil.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigADA009AE09F659C22AE35F04" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:32:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigADA009AE09F659C22AE35F04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: > Hi people, >=20 > Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during= > the boot ? >=20 > Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: >=20 > mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: > Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) > mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal > mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is > above hold > mfid0: on mfi0 > mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal >=20 > My hardware informations are: >=20 > Dell Poweredge 840 > BIOS A01 > Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation > PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 > 3 HDs in RAID 5 >=20 > I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! >=20 > I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i= > don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix.= Could you please try a verbose boot? This could provide more information and can sometimes very helpful for us. Thanks in advance! Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigADA009AE09F659C22AE35F04 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFx1wYOfuToMruuMARAzJyAJ9NYyRkcu3bQdYBZr+2rixQv3Q/qgCeO0bL oTIyTudIWy2GHnUAj9tYe9k= =5B1f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigADA009AE09F659C22AE35F04-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:54:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31A416A402 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from massimo@cedoc.mo.it) Received: from insomma.datacode.it (ip-174-86.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.174.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2CA13C46B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from massimo@cedoc.mo.it) Received: from localhost (localhost.datacode.it [127.0.0.1]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C8532C90B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from insomma.datacode.it (localhost.datacode.it [127.0.0.1]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E252C90A; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:36:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from intanto (unknown [192.168.1.18]) by insomma.datacode.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D5D02C906; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:36:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:36:49 +0100 From: Massimo Lusetti To: "Matthew Jacob" Message-Id: <20070205173649.55afacec.massimo@cedoc.mo.it> In-Reply-To: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> References: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.9 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer Subject: Re: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:54:57 -0000 On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:00:30 -0800 "Matthew Jacob" wrote: > Helpful information would be: > > a) Release > b) Connection Topology > > It looks like you're going through a switch. Your short term solution > will be to zone your box and the CX300 together excluding all else. > > A longer term solution is for me to MFC the new SAN evaluation code > which is a bit less harsh. Sorry, couldn't resist, does this will comprehand support for the new 2460 HBA boards? -- Massimo.run(); A lack of leadership is no substitute for inaction. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 16:59:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27D616A485 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydianconcepts@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8160E13C4BA for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydianconcepts@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1294008uge for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:59:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jrpEiXoqOvgHKGIVn4IcAn2Ha2lqSBKK2b8MOlzSKnXo+9IQ/ac2iBff6pqOiL00gXbF+nNdWulyoKnyFXOf2ALJ3+aE22tNEcXSzBT2FfoPlZDytEMKlOZcLQPHefDcIWl2He9uOzHbx+Szi1dsKhpNYbX4fdLLcCSnMiV22s0= Received: by 10.78.106.3 with SMTP id e3mr1113649huc.1170694795641; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.199.19 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:59:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7579f7fb0702050859k42c5e12h3a3f1e46793ca4f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:59:55 -0800 From: "Matthew Jacob" To: "Eduardo Meyer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7579f7fb0702050800x3b9fbc86j2908a2ee193d8713@mail.gmail.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with QLogic FC problem diagnosis (da0:isp0:0:0:0): lost device X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:00:00 -0000 On 2/5/07, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > On 2/5/07, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Helpful information would be: > > > > a) Release > > b) Connection Topology > > > > It looks like you're going through a switch. Your short term solution > > will be to zone your box and the CX300 together excluding all else. > > > > A longer term solution is for me to MFC the new SAN evaluation code > > which is a bit less harsh. > > You are right, I am going through a switch. > It is a 6.2-STABLE as of Feb 2nd. > > Is this code scheduled to be MFC'd? > Yes, when it's got just a bit more mileage on it and I have time to monitor breakage that might occur. This is also with 24XX support. *Probably* toward the end of this month. As Wilko says, zoning is worth it unless you're explicitly sharing. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 17:01:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD6916A403 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcoleman@criticalmagic.com) Received: from saturn.criticalmagic.com (saturn.criticalmagic.com [64.74.207.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5702413C474 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcoleman@criticalmagic.com) Received: from neptune.criticalmagic.com (adsl-074-229-078-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net [74.229.78.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neptune.criticalmagic.com", Issuer "Critical Magic Root Certificate" (verified OK)) by saturn.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2FA39808; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E746D40E; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:01:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45C762F1.7090805@criticalmagic.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:01:37 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen A. Lewis" References: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> In-Reply-To: <1170687083.45c7446bf2c13@www.ajboggs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Mounting Seagate HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:01:49 -0000 Stephen A. Lewis wrote: > > I am having issues mounting a USB Seagate 300MB HD any suggestions. After you plug in the external drive, are you seeing any messages in /var/log/messages that the drive has been detected by devd/usbd/whatever? I have a 500g WD mybook, and all I do is: 1. plug it in and wait a few seconds 2. mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt (as root) Not much else to it. Richard Coleman rcoleman@criticalmagic.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 17:19:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523ED16A408; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from alto.enib.fr (alto.enib.fr [195.221.233.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28C813C4B9; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alto.enib.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52661EF1C2; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:57:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from alto.enib.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alto.enib.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06610-02; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:57:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from enib.fr (eleves.enib.fr [195.221.233.19]) by alto.enib.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE46EF1B9; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:57:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr (LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.221.99]) by imp.enib.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:57:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20070205175712.mztzeqp0vwo4oogw@imp.enib.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:57:12 +0100 From: Firas Kraiem To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enib.fr Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Tab competion working partially. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:19:06 -0000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 17:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB46416A408 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A962513C428 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65FCC47FF; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84717-08-2; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (a213-22-26-4.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.26.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE81C488D; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <45C763EB.4070604@barafranca.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:05:47 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061007) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Lambrev , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> In-Reply-To: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: Re: ifconfig carp1 destroy = kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:23:25 -0000 Stefan Lambrev wrote: > Hi all, > > This combination of commands lead my freebsd servers to kernel panic. > > ifconfig bge0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig bge0 alias 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig carp create > ifconfig carp create > ifconfig carp0 192.168.1.222/24 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass somekey > ifconfig carp1 10.1.1.222/24 vhid 2 advskew 0 pass somekey > - to this point everything is ok - > ifconfig carp1 destroy - at this point this will cause kernel panic. > I tested with ifconfig carp1 delete before destroy but the result is > the same. > > tested on freebsd 6.2 pre-release i386 SMP and freebsd 6.2 release > amd64 SMP - in both cases kernel panic. > > This seems very similar to this PR - > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=92776 > > I'm going to test on 6.2 stable from today, but I'm not very optimistic. > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x24 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0555bcd > stack pointer = 0x28:0xe4b77bd4 > frame pointer = 0x28:0xe4b77be8 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 14 (swi1: net) > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 0 > Uptime: 7m2s > Cannot dump. No dump device defined. > aac0: shutting down controller...done > > P.S. should I open new PR or just follow up to pr #92776 ? > Just for the records, I stumbled upon something similar some time ago while testing with a co-worker. We both had 6.2-PRERELEASE installed. I cannot remember if the same command sequence led to the panic, but we were mimicking each other's commands (with the adequate changes for each host of course), and both machines panicked on the same command. Hugo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 17:35:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F69416A40F; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from alto.enib.fr (alto.enib.fr [195.221.233.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32F313C478; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fkraiem@enib.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alto.enib.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E9EF221; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:04:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from alto.enib.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (alto.enib.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06610-09; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:04:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from enib.fr (eleves.enib.fr [195.221.233.19]) by alto.enib.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB61EF21B; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:04:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr (LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.221.99]) by imp.enib.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:04:16 +0100 Message-ID: <20070205180416.8i4ydi4jknxcggsk@imp.enib.fr> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:04:16 +0100 From: Firas Kraiem To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enib.fr Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Tab completion working partially X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:35:44 -0000 (Sorry for the double-posting, the last message wasn't sent properly) Hi I have problems with the tab-completion in my shell (bash). When there is only one choice possible, it works fine (e.g. cd /usr/por ) and bash usually shows a list of all possible options, it just exits the shell (Konsole or xterm windo is closed and I get thrown back to a login prompt when using a tty). In sh or csh, it's even worse : completion doesn't work at all. I'm running 6.2-STABLE, any ideas about this ? Firas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 18:26:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF6516A412 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF0413C4A7 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195F61B10F5F for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:26:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.125] (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4C51B10F5D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:26:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C776E4.5090906@sun-fish.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:26:44 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> <1299871321.20070205211307@citrin.ru> In-Reply-To: <1299871321.20070205211307@citrin.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: Subject: Re: ifconfig carp1 destroy = kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:26:48 -0000 Hi all, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > Hello Stefan, > > You wrote on Monday, February 5, 2007, 7:06:16 PM: > > SL> ifconfig bge0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > SL> ifconfig bge0 alias 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > SL> ifconfig carp create > SL> ifconfig carp create > SL> ifconfig carp0 192.168.1.222/24 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass somekey > SL> ifconfig carp1 10.1.1.222/24 vhid 2 advskew 0 pass somekey > SL> - to this point everything is ok - > SL> ifconfig carp1 destroy - at this point this will cause kernel panic. > SL> I tested with ifconfig carp1 delete before destroy but the result is the > SL> same. > > It seems to be fixed in CURRENT - src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c Revision 1.47 > > Sorry if this sound too stupid, but do you think, that if I download rev. 1.47 (or latest rev. 1.48) of src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c and I recompile the kernel this will/can fix the problem ? Anyway I'm going to test this tomorrow :) -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 18:36:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D488716A4D7 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin@citrin.ru) Received: from mail.classis.ru (classis.ru [213.248.60.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361D813C51B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin@citrin.ru) Received: from citrin (unknown [81.19.65.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: citrin.citrin.ru) by mail.classis.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5131B1227811; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:13:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:13:07 +0300 From: Anton Yuzhaninov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.62.14) Professional Organization: Rambler X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1299871321.20070205211307@citrin.ru> To: Stefan Lambrev In-Reply-To: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> References: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="----------561A1E532FC84CE" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig carp1 destroy = kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:36:05 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. ------------561A1E532FC84CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Stefan, You wrote on Monday, February 5, 2007, 7:06:16 PM: SL> ifconfig bge0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 SL> ifconfig bge0 alias 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 SL> ifconfig carp create SL> ifconfig carp create SL> ifconfig carp0 192.168.1.222/24 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass somekey SL> ifconfig carp1 10.1.1.222/24 vhid 2 advskew 0 pass somekey SL> - to this point everything is ok - SL> ifconfig carp1 destroy - at this point this will cause kernel panic. SL> I tested with ifconfig carp1 delete before destroy but the result is the SL> same. It seems to be fixed in CURRENT - src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c Revision 1.47 --=20 Anton Yuzhaninov. ------------561A1E532FC84CE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 18:38:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CB816A4C6 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin@citrin.ru) Received: from mail.classis.ru (classis.ru [213.248.60.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E278F13C4CB for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from citrin@citrin.ru) Received: from citrin (unknown [81.19.65.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: citrin.citrin.ru) by mail.classis.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7B1227811; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:38:20 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:37:44 +0300 From: Anton Yuzhaninov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.62.14) Professional Organization: Rambler X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <816560568.20070205213744@citrin.ru> To: Stefan Lambrev In-Reply-To: <45C776E4.5090906@sun-fish.com> References: <45C755F8.90603@sun-fish.com> <1299871321.20070205211307@citrin.ru> <45C776E4.5090906@sun-fish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="----------3915B7E2C95A2CE" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: ifconfig carp1 destroy = kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:38:24 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. ------------3915B7E2C95A2CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Stefan, You wrote on Monday, February 5, 2007, 9:26:44 PM: SL> Hi all, SL> Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: >> Hello Stefan, >> >> You wrote on Monday, February 5, 2007, 7:06:16 PM: >> >> SL> ifconfig bge0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 >> SL> ifconfig bge0 alias 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 >> SL> ifconfig carp create >> SL> ifconfig carp create >> SL> ifconfig carp0 192.168.1.222/24 vhid 1 advskew 0 pass somekey >> SL> ifconfig carp1 10.1.1.222/24 vhid 2 advskew 0 pass somekey >> SL> - to this point everything is ok - >> SL> ifconfig carp1 destroy - at this point this will cause kernel panic. >> SL> I tested with ifconfig carp1 delete before destroy but the result is= the >> SL> same. >> >> It seems to be fixed in CURRENT - src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c Revision 1.47 >> >> =20 SL> Sorry if this sound too stupid, but do you think, that if I download=20 SL> rev. 1.47 (or latest rev. 1.48) SL> of src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c and I recompile the kernel this will/can= =20 SL> fix the problem ? ip_carp.c from current can contain code which don't work in RELENG_6 Instead try to merge only this changes to ip_carp.c: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c.diff?r1=3D1= .46&r2=3D1.47 --=20 Anton Yuzhaninov. ------------3915B7E2C95A2CE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 18:49:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7B916A402 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7309313C49D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 78036 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2007 16:54:40 -0200 Received: from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(201.58.76.173):. Processed in 0.638356 secs); 05 Feb 2007 18:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.69.69.8?) (lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br@201.58.76.173) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 16:54:39 -0200 Message-ID: <45C77C39.3080009@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:49:29 -0200 From: Felippe de Meirelles Motta Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45C75536.5020200@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <45C75C17.5000105@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <45C75C17.5000105@delphij.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:49:47 -0000 LI Xin wrote: > Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: >> Hi people, >> >> Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during >> the boot ? >> >> Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: >> >> mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: >> Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) >> mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal >> mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is >> above hold >> mfid0: on mfi0 >> mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal >> >> My hardware informations are: >> >> Dell Poweredge 840 >> BIOS A01 >> Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation >> PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 >> 3 HDs in RAID 5 >> >> I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! >> >> I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i >> don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. > > Could you please try a verbose boot? This could provide more > information and can sometimes very helpful for us. > > Thanks in advance! > > Cheers, LI Xin, Thanks, more i dont have physical access in this server. The installation is completed successfully, but, in reboot her stopped in this message above. I show then one screenshot so that they see where the system paralyzes: http://br.geocities.com/lippemotta/P149_05_02_2007.jpg Thanks again! :) -- Atenciosamente, Felippe de Meirelles Motta FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 19:44:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FA816A403 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5F7713C4AA for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 87357 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2007 17:49:36 -0200 Received: from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(201.58.76.173):. Processed in 0.747496 secs); 05 Feb 2007 19:49:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.69.69.8?) (lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br@201.58.76.173) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 17:49:35 -0200 Message-ID: <45C78918.1050207@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:44:24 -0200 From: Felippe de Meirelles Motta Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45C75536.5020200@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <45C75C17.5000105@delphij.net> <45C77C39.3080009@freebsdbrasil.com.br> In-Reply-To: <45C77C39.3080009@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:44:37 -0000 Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: > LI Xin wrote: >> Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: >>> Hi people, >>> >>> Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during >>> the boot ? >>> >>> Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: >>> >>> mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: >>> Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) >>> mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal >>> mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is >>> above hold >>> mfid0: on mfi0 >>> mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal >>> >>> My hardware informations are: >>> >>> Dell Poweredge 840 >>> BIOS A01 >>> Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation >>> PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 >>> 3 HDs in RAID 5 >>> >>> I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! >>> >>> I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i >>> don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. >> >> Could you please try a verbose boot? This could provide more >> information and can sometimes very helpful for us. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Cheers, > > LI Xin, > > Thanks, more i dont have physical access in this server. The > installation is completed successfully, but, in reboot her stopped in > this message above. > > I show then one screenshot so that they see where the system paralyzes: > > http://br.geocities.com/lippemotta/P149_05_02_2007.jpg > > Thanks again! :) > Hi, Some friends had problems in opening mine screenshot, then i posted again in: http://main.bh.freebsdbrasil.com.br/~lippe/P149_05_02_2007.jpg -- Atenciosamente, Felippe de Meirelles Motta FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 21:08:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D95216A547 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CC4713C4A7 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 3932 invoked by uid 399); 5 Feb 2007 20:40:06 -0000 Received: from pool-71-160-134-240.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@71.160.134.240) by mail2.fluidhosting.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 20:40:06 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 71.160.134.240 Message-ID: <45C79625.5090103@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:40:05 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Firas Kraiem References: <20070205180416.8i4ydi4jknxcggsk@imp.enib.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070205180416.8i4ydi4jknxcggsk@imp.enib.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tab completion working partially X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:08:24 -0000 This message really isn't on topic for -stable, so please restrict responses to -questions. Thanks, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 01:39:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F299316A402; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500F213C461; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l161cxjB079771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:08:59 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Stanislav Sedov Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:08:36 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702011345.50585.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20070201230902.4c526d4d.stas@FreeBSD.org> <200702051126.56015.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200702051126.56015.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8363932.fGbe4I46Xu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702061208.53785.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.36 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loader hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:39:09 -0000 --nextPart8363932.fGbe4I46Xu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 05 February 2007 11:26, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Have you tried to boot anything else (Linux, Windows, etc)? Probably, > > the Host adapter's BIOS is broken, so try to update it to the latest > > version. > > No I haven't tried booting anything else except DOS. > > I just tried updating the BIOS - no luck.. I found that removing the Firewire card allows it to boot. I find this REALLY confusing.. There's nothing plugged into it and it isn't= =20 touched in the loader.. Could be a dud card I guess. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart8363932.fGbe4I46Xu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFx9wt5ZPcIHs/zowRAuNdAJ0VH/mA/F2Sp6ECcY3OBhOGkEqI6ACdFiBI VMRqio+WWSu1oyPgNlFUzqM= =WAdz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8363932.fGbe4I46Xu-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 03:08:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D516A402 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 03:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from sumo.dreamhost.com (sumo.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E43213C48E for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 03:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-66.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.66]) by sumo.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8859A179FF5 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.30] (71-14-6-202.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com [71.14.6.202]) by spunkymail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D121B10A080; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:48:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:47:59 -0500 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominic Marks References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 03:08:34 -0000 Dominic Marks wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:42 -0500 > Sean Bryant wrote: > >> Several months ago I was using Freesbie 1.x to dd a harddrive across the >> network as a drive duplication effort. This worked 7 computers got the >> image. I'm trying to do this again so I got the new Freesbie release 2.0 >> and fired it up across the computers and tried something simple such as: >> >> dd if=/dev/ad0 bs=1m | nc othercomputer 10000 on the image provider >> >> nc -l 10000 | dd of=/dev/ad0 bs=1m on the computer to receive the image. >> >> I received an operation not permitted. My first thought was they must be >> mounted. a quick check, and it seems they weren't. >> Next, am I really root? And sure enough I was. After a bit of discussion >> in #freesbie on freenode got me to set kern.geom.debugflags to 16 and I >> was able to write to ad0 like I had previously done. Yet when I tried to >> write to an individual slice I was presented with the same error. >> >> Anyone have any clue ? The eventual goal is to have a mass imaging all >> at once with dd, nc and tee > > Check out G4U (NetBSD based) > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Dominic > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning of the disk. The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy across the network which would be way faster. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 06:13:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1AF16A403 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-stable@mawer.org) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AA013C4A3 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-stable@mawer.org) Received: from 203-206-173-235.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO [10.24.1.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 06 Feb 2007 14:03:45 +0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAFqpx0XLzq3r/2dsb2JhbAANn2wBAQGBBw X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,286,1167580800"; d="scan'208"; a="636431903:sNHT19180198" Message-ID: <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:04:11 +1100 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Bryant References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> In-Reply-To: <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:13:48 -0000 On 6/02/2007 1:47 PM, Sean Bryant wrote: > Dominic Marks wrote: >> Check out G4U (NetBSD based) > > The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will > have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning of > the disk. > > The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy > across the network which would be way faster. Now all you need is G4U to operate in a multicast manner like Symantec Ghost Corporate Edition, and your transfer speed wouldn't reduce with each additional client (eg. 100mbps for 1 client, 50mbps each for 2 clients, 33.3mbps each for 3 clients, ...) --Antony From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 12:27:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2990116A400 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-81.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1598213C478 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from [10.0.0.30] (71-14-6-202.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com [71.14.6.202]) by spunkymail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E890920BDF; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:27:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45C8742A.8000605@cyberwang.net> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:27:22 -0500 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Mawer References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> In-Reply-To: <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:27:36 -0000 Antony Mawer wrote: > On 6/02/2007 1:47 PM, Sean Bryant wrote: >> Dominic Marks wrote: >>> Check out G4U (NetBSD based) >> >> The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will >> have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning >> of the disk. >> >> The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy >> across the network which would be way faster. > > Now all you need is G4U to operate in a multicast manner like Symantec > Ghost Corporate Edition, and your transfer speed wouldn't reduce with > each additional client (eg. 100mbps for 1 client, 50mbps each for 2 > clients, 33.3mbps each for 3 clients, ...) > > --Antony Exactly. That's what I was really going for. Except Freesbie 2.0 sorta doesn't let me write to the character device over the network . From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 14:24:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564DB16A400 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711913C474 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from royal64.emp.zapto.org (195.198.193.104) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.075) id 45B61FED00382054 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:14:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:14:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A6028701@royal64.emp.zapto.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Highpoint RocketRaid 2320 problems Thread-Index: AcdJ8ODt6NiBT/mhRhu14avFHMtH6A== From: "Daniel Eriksson" To: Subject: Highpoint RocketRaid 2320 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:24:30 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 6.2 (RELENG_6_2) box with a RocketRaid 2320 card (8 port SATA-2, PCI-E 4x). Attached to the 2320 card are two 500GB drives (Samsung) in a RAID-0 array. The system runs off of a 320GB drive hooked up to the motherboard. When stressing the RAID-0 array (multiple processes doing read/write) I get messages like this in the system log: rr232x: start channel [0,0] rr232x: channel [0,0] started successfully When this happens it looks like any read in progress is either terminated early or returns bad data. (I'm using security/cksfv to verify files, and it only reports the file(s) as corrupt so I cannot tell if the read was short or returned bad data.) Any hints? /Daniel Eriksson From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 15:40:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA8716A415 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0202513C4AC for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537451A9169 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:09:11 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 2XavfNrTrqdHLVrGyqAGd/vzfxgZTXuSJJqcyVnDrhsI 1170774551 Received: from [192.168.123.18] (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAC631FD3 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:09:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45C89A14.3060902@incunabulum.net> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:09:08 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD stable Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040106090907070101030004" Subject: Treo 650 not correctly seen by uvisor/ucom X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:40:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040106090907070101030004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've attached udesc_dump output. Scanning uvisor.c and ucom.c I see no obvious reason why this shouldn't work; the Treo 650 has the same ident as the Zire 31. I can hotsync FreeBSD via Bluetooth, so this isn't a major worry, but it would be good to have backup via wires. Any ideas? Regards, BMS --------------040106090907070101030004 Content-Type: text/plain; name="palm-pid.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="palm-pid.txt" Standard Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 01 bcdUSB 0100 bDeviceClass 00 bDeviceSubClass 00 bDeviceProtocol 00 bMaxPacketSize 16 idVendor 0830 idProduct 0061 bcdDevice 0100 iManufacturer 1 iProduct 2 iSerialNumber 5 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration 0: Standard Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 02 wTotalLength 46 bNumInterface 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes c0 (self-powered) bMaxPower 1 (2 mA) Standard Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 04 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 4 bInterfaceClass ff bInterfaceSubClass 00 bInterfaceProtocol 00 iInterface 0 Standard Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 05 bEndpointAddress 81 (in) bmAttributes 02 (Bulk) wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 10 Standard Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 05 bEndpointAddress 02 (out) bmAttributes 02 (Bulk) wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 0 Standard Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 05 bEndpointAddress 86 (in) bmAttributes 02 (Bulk) wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 0 Standard Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 05 bEndpointAddress 07 (out) bmAttributes 02 (Bulk) wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 0 Codes Representing Languages by the Device: bLength 4 bDescriptorType 03 wLANGID[0] 0409 String (index 1): PalmOne, Inc. String (index 2): Palm Handheld String (index 3): Standard String (index 4): Serial Interface String (index 5): PalmSN12345678 --------------040106090907070101030004-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 19:44:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F916A402 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F156713C461 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 82903 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2007 22:44:00 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 6 Feb 2007 22:44:00 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 173786, updated: 6.02.2007] Message-ID: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:43:51 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:44:05 -0000 Hello! I've got an Intel 2400A server to install FBSD. It has 4GB RAM, SRCS16 raid controller, configured 2TB (actually a little less, about 1.9TB) RAID-5 array, Xeon 3.2Ghz Recently i have installed 6.2-R, cvsupped it to 6.2-STABLE (today, thanks to included csup utility, very convinient) and decided to turn on PAE so i can utilize all 4GB of RAM (w/o PAE i am loosing 512MB, too bad). I did that and then tried to run perl. Got "segmantaion fault". Ignored that and tried to copy port tree and then i found out that some files are damanged and connot be read. Also, directoried could not be deleted because it is not empty, but when i do ls in that dir it IS empty. weird. Booted single user, did fsck - found a buch of errors, many softupdate inconsistencies. Fixed them. Rebooted (still in PAE). Run buildworld and copy ports tree at the same time. AFter 10 minutes again the same errors. Built a kernel without PAE, installed, rebooted in single user, fixed all filesystems, booted multiuser, run buildworld and copy of ports tree. Everything is okay. Did it many times. Still everything is ok. Is it something bad about amr driver working under PAE? Also, with and after running in PAE (i mean, run PAE kernel, then install normal kernel and run it) the kernel compains like this _vfs_done(): amrd0 [WRITE(offset=8192, length=1536)] error = 5 (no other message before or aftrer this, disks are fully okay becuase dd works like a charm) Also, i did a simple thing dd if=/dev/amrd0 of=/dev/null bs=1M (tried 2m, 5m, 512k) The throughoutput is about 29MB/sec w/o PAE and 27MB/sec with PAE Did the same on a very old DUal Pentium III with 3Ware 7xxxx with RAID-5 array and older harddrives. Got over 50Mb/sec. unixbench show terrible number for file perfomance. Why the heck amr is so slow? -- Regards, Artem Kuchin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 21:12:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF21916A401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrej@antiszoc.hu) Received: from mail.webmedia.hu (webmedia.hu [195.70.37.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F90813C491 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrej@antiszoc.hu) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at webmedia.hu Received: from [192.168.1.5] (catv-506346c6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.70.198]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.webmedia.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170B1EDE709 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:46:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:47:40 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmFzIEfDs3Q=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:12:51 -0000 Hi, Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? Regards, Andras Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I've got an Intel 2400A server to install FBSD. It has 4GB RAM, > SRCS16 raid controller, configured 2TB (actually a little less, about > 1.9TB) RAID-5 array, Xeon 3.2Ghz > > Recently i have installed 6.2-R, cvsupped it to 6.2-STABLE > (today, thanks to included csup utility, very convinient) and > decided to turn on PAE so i can utilize all 4GB of RAM (w/o PAE > i am loosing 512MB, too bad). > > I did that and then tried to run perl. Got "segmantaion fault". > Ignored that and tried to copy port tree and then i found > out that some files are damanged and connot be read. Also, > directoried could not be deleted because it is not empty, but when > i do ls in that dir it IS empty. weird. > Booted single user, did fsck - found a buch of errors, many > softupdate inconsistencies. > Fixed them. Rebooted (still in PAE). Run buildworld and > copy ports tree at the same time. AFter 10 minutes again the same > errors. > Built a kernel without PAE, installed, rebooted in single user, > fixed all filesystems, booted multiuser, run buildworld and copy of > ports tree. Everything is okay. Did it many times. Still everything is > ok. > > Is it something bad about amr driver working under PAE? > > Also, with and after running in PAE (i mean, run PAE kernel, > then install normal kernel and run it) the kernel compains like this > _vfs_done(): amrd0 [WRITE(offset=8192, length=1536)] error = 5 > (no other message before or aftrer this, disks are fully okay becuase > dd works like a charm) > > Also, i did a simple thing > dd if=/dev/amrd0 of=/dev/null bs=1M (tried 2m, 5m, 512k) > The throughoutput is about 29MB/sec w/o PAE and 27MB/sec with PAE > > Did the same on a very old DUal Pentium III with 3Ware 7xxxx with RAID-5 > array and older harddrives. Got over 50Mb/sec. > > unixbench show terrible number for file perfomance. > > Why the heck amr is so slow? > -- > Regards, > Artem Kuchin > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 00:04:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D663C16A4CA for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2885813C4A5 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 98127 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2007 03:04:14 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2007 03:04:14 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 173868, updated: 6.02.2007] Message-ID: <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andras_G=C3=B3t?= , References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:04:05 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:04:28 -0000 Andras Gót wrote: > Hi, > > Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? Um.. i have never tried anything AMD in my life. I thought AMD64 is only for AMD CPUs and this is Intel Xeon. Are you really suggesting installing FreeBSD for AMD64 on this Xeon server? Why? Should it help? -- Artem > > Artem Kuchin wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I've got an Intel 2400A server to install FBSD. It has 4GB RAM, >> SRCS16 raid controller, configured 2TB (actually a little less, about >> 1.9TB) RAID-5 array, Xeon 3.2Ghz >> >> Recently i have installed 6.2-R, cvsupped it to 6.2-STABLE >> (today, thanks to included csup utility, very convinient) and >> decided to turn on PAE so i can utilize all 4GB of RAM (w/o PAE >> i am loosing 512MB, too bad). >> >> I did that and then tried to run perl. Got "segmantaion fault". >> Ignored that and tried to copy port tree and then i found >> out that some files are damanged and connot be read. Also, >> directoried could not be deleted because it is not empty, but when >> i do ls in that dir it IS empty. weird. >> Booted single user, did fsck - found a buch of errors, many >> softupdate inconsistencies. >> Fixed them. Rebooted (still in PAE). Run buildworld and >> copy ports tree at the same time. AFter 10 minutes again the same >> errors. >> Built a kernel without PAE, installed, rebooted in single user, >> fixed all filesystems, booted multiuser, run buildworld and copy of >> ports tree. Everything is okay. Did it many times. Still everything >> is ok. >> >> Is it something bad about amr driver working under PAE? >> >> Also, with and after running in PAE (i mean, run PAE kernel, >> then install normal kernel and run it) the kernel compains like this >> _vfs_done(): amrd0 [WRITE(offset=8192, length=1536)] error = 5 >> (no other message before or aftrer this, disks are fully okay >> becuase dd works like a charm) >> >> Also, i did a simple thing >> dd if=/dev/amrd0 of=/dev/null bs=1M (tried 2m, 5m, 512k) >> The throughoutput is about 29MB/sec w/o PAE and 27MB/sec with PAE >> >> Did the same on a very old DUal Pentium III with 3Ware 7xxxx with >> RAID-5 array and older harddrives. Got over 50Mb/sec. >> >> unixbench show terrible number for file perfomance. >> >> Why the heck amr is so slow? >> -- >> Regards, >> Artem Kuchin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 03:05:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4BA16A402 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED9813C48E for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp149-137.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [121.44.149.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1734GBN054966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:34:20 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:34:06 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2930209.hoLWLSPjai"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702071334.07595.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: 0 () SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP,UPPERCASE_25_50 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Artem Kuchin , Andras =?iso-8859-1?q?G=F3t?= Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE ( raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:05:15 -0000 --nextPart2930209.hoLWLSPjai Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 07 February 2007 10:34, Artem Kuchin wrote: > > Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? > > Um.. i have never tried anything AMD in my life. I thought Your loss.. > AMD64 is only for AMD CPUs and this is Intel Xeon. > Are you really suggesting installing FreeBSD for AMD64 > on this Xeon server? Why? Should it help? Because Intel copied the 64 bit instruction extensions developed by AMD so = the=20 amd64 port of FreeBSD will run on a suitable Intel CPU, eg.. CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (3000.12-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf49 Stepping =3D 9 =20 =46eatures=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x641d AMD Features=3D0x20100800 Running in full 64 bit is considerably less kludgy and tends to expose less= =20 driver bugs than PAE :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2930209.hoLWLSPjai Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFyUGn5ZPcIHs/zowRArUTAJsEOTsAXZR7znNyi0huoO0/fyyD7wCfbBIS CMBAoBUPQkncLjeWRqtgWhY= =BQXv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2930209.hoLWLSPjai-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 06:17:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7A16A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 06:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082AF13C478 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 06:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (y512kzx3e7y91csc@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l175pZlV046221; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id l175pVlj046220; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:51:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:51:31 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Antony Mawer Message-ID: <20070207055131.GC1620@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Antony Mawer , Sean Bryant , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks , Sean Bryant Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:17:13 -0000 Antony Mawer wrote this message on Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 17:04 +1100: > On 6/02/2007 1:47 PM, Sean Bryant wrote: > >Dominic Marks wrote: > >>Check out G4U (NetBSD based) > > > >The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will > >have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning of > >the disk. > > > >The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy > >across the network which would be way faster. > > Now all you need is G4U to operate in a multicast manner like Symantec > Ghost Corporate Edition, and your transfer speed wouldn't reduce with > each additional client (eg. 100mbps for 1 client, 50mbps each for 2 > clients, 33.3mbps each for 3 clients, ...) Add FEC to the multicast, and you can constantly stream the data, and not have to worry about dropped segments as much... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 07:01:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B6816A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8A513C49D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from stat.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEgKY-000G34-DT; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:30:58 +0300 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEgN5-0007Fd-1z; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:33:35 +0300 To: "Artem Kuchin" References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:33:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> (Artem Kuchin's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:04:05 +0300") Message-ID: <21342944@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:01:57 -0000 On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:04:05 +0300 Artem Kuchin wrote: > Andras G=F3t wrote: > > Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? > Um.. i have never tried anything AMD in my life. I thought > AMD64 is only for AMD CPUs and this is Intel Xeon. > Are you really suggesting installing FreeBSD for AMD64 > on this Xeon server? Why? Should it help? You may be interested at reading: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-amd64.html#PROC HTH, WBR --=20 Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 08:56:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E098916A411 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C295913C474 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 8587 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2007 11:56:01 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2007 11:56:01 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 173869, updated: 7.02.2007] Message-ID: <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: "Boris Samorodov" References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem><45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> <21342944@srv.sem.ipt.ru> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:53:17 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:56:06 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:04:05 +0300 Artem Kuchin wrote: >> Andras Gót wrote: > >>> Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? > >> Um.. i have never tried anything AMD in my life. I thought >> AMD64 is only for AMD CPUs and this is Intel Xeon. >> Are you really suggesting installing FreeBSD for AMD64 >> on this Xeon server? Why? Should it help? > > You may be interested at reading: > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-amd64.html#PROC Actually i have read it many time before, but i guess, never paed attention ;) anyhow, this: "There may be some issues with 64-bit cleanliness in some (particularly older) drivers. Generally, drivers that already function correctly on other 64-bit platforms should work. FreeBSD/amd64 is a very young platform on FreeBSD. While the core FreeBSD kernel and base system components are generally fairly robust, there are likely to still be rough edges, particularly with third party packages." scares me. Do you really think it is better than PAE? -- Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 09:09:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7623516A401 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [80.253.10.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D33313C491 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from admin.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEioO-000Ghq-G0; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:09:56 +0300 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEiqv-0008ph-Fa; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:12:33 +0300 To: "Artem Kuchin" References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45C8E96C.4030902@antiszoc.hu> <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> <21342944@srv.sem.ipt.ru> <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:12:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> (Artem Kuchin's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:53:17 +0300") Message-ID: <69509118@srv.sem.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:09:59 -0000 On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:53:17 +0300 Artem Kuchin wrote: > "There may be some issues with 64-bit cleanliness in some > (particularly older) drivers. Generally, drivers that already function > correctly on other 64-bit platforms should work. > FreeBSD/amd64 is a very young platform on FreeBSD. While the core > FreeBSD kernel and base system components are generally fairly robust, > there are likely to still be rough edges, particularly with third > party packages." > scares me. Do you really think it is better than PAE? Yes. It's very good and stable as a server platform. I use even 7-current-amd64 as a platform to create packages for 4.x -- 7.x for more than half a year now. There may be some issues as a workstation though (i.e. no drivers for nVidia cards etc.). WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 09:44:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A2116A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AAD13C4B7 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-29-241.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.29.241]:57980 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HEj3R-0008Je-4X for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:25:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 26476 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2007 10:25:26 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2007 10:25:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 37070 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Feb 2007 10:25:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:25:26 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Artem Kuchin Message-ID: <20070207092526.GA37030@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Artem Kuchin , Boris Samorodov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <004401c74a4b$8072fa90$0c00a8c0@Artem> <21342944@srv.sem.ipt.ru> <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HEj3R-0008Je-4X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HEj3R-0008Je-4X 9516fc03a0b3850847f68a39eea20b96 Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:44:09 -0000 On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 11:53:17AM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > >On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:04:05 +0300 Artem Kuchin wrote: > >>Andras G=F3t wrote: > > > >>>Can you try the AMD64 version on that server? > > > >>Um.. i have never tried anything AMD in my life. I thought > >>AMD64 is only for AMD CPUs and this is Intel Xeon. > >>Are you really suggesting installing FreeBSD for AMD64 > >>on this Xeon server? Why? Should it help? > > > >You may be interested at reading: > >http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-amd64.html#PROC >=20 > Actually i have read it many time before, but i guess, never paed > attention ;) >=20 > anyhow, this: >=20 > "There may be some issues with 64-bit cleanliness in some (particularly= =20 > older) drivers. Generally, drivers that already function correctly on oth= er=20 > 64-bit platforms should work. > FreeBSD/amd64 is a very young platform on FreeBSD. While the core FreeBSD= =20 > kernel and base system components are generally fairly robust, there are= =20 > likely to still be rough edges, particularly with third party packages." >=20 > scares me. Do you really think it is better than PAE? If a driver has problems on amd64 due to not being 64-bit clean, it is likely to have at least as much problems with PAE.=20 Take a look at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PAE to see a list of all the drivers that have been known to have problems with PAE. PAE mode is an ugly hack which is best avoided unless you really have to go beyond the 4 GB limit on older x86 CPU's. --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 09:59:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFD916A415 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A306813C481 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp149-137.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [121.44.149.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.5/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l179wt50070838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:28:55 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:28:17 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <001d01c74a27$25afd9d0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <21342944@srv.sem.ipt.ru> <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <013c01c74a95$ca217000$0c00a8c0@Artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2053819.Y63mYyM94I"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702072028.42216.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: 0 () SUBJECT_EXCESS_QP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Boris Samorodov , Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE ( raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:59:13 -0000 --nextPart2053819.Y63mYyM94I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 07 February 2007 19:23, Artem Kuchin wrote: > FreeBSD/amd64 is a very young platform on FreeBSD. While the core FreeBSD > kernel and base system components are generally fairly robust, there are > likely to still be rough edges, particularly with third party packages." > > scares me. Do you really think it is better than PAE? PAE is quite young as well, I think it was committed to the tree around Mar= ch=20 2003. The earliest AMD64 commit I could find was May 2003 although repo=20 copying makes it confusing.. I think you'll find the list of drivers incompatible with PAE to be much=20 longer with amd64. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2053819.Y63mYyM94I Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFyaLS5ZPcIHs/zowRAtqdAJ0SrdE9Ig1ysW9GHSXxiXKzQ4LG5gCfd3NW XeJiSYNv2/c6nbLRWTbKVUs= =TR5H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2053819.Y63mYyM94I-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 10:46:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD3416A4A0 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdannounce@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FBE13C4A5 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdannounce@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so180463nzh for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cD0nvL/qeJW46CWss7+ws8pzWIRf8NKVbKPYZ/lJaq2X5a2Dh9lSMpepsWiNH0GPPvB0Ju6RgWN92L4w50DtJL83H+SV+rwfX/7fJCnzxdcYFEnBpxQ2Yjj+H6n7HxQLNnCiNS5YixKILugBbmN1kiqWOjaS36ygzRUin/6/DkY= Received: by 10.35.64.8 with SMTP id r8mr313559pyk.1170843450519; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [71.59.152.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 38sm3036365nzk.2007.02.07.02.17.29; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:17:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45C9A73C.1020409@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:17:32 -0800 From: Michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <5fbf03c20702021132y5f931f5esdeab22d0048fa5a6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5fbf03c20702021132y5f931f5esdeab22d0048fa5a6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with IPv6-less kernel and world X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:46:40 -0000 Spil Oss wrote: > Hi All, > > I have NO_INET6 in my /etc/make.conf and INET6 is commented out in my > kernel config. > Until today I did *not* have WITHOUT_IPV6 in my make.conf > In 6.1 I have been unable to run php 5.2 in combination with > mail/roundcube, it segfaulted apache, 5.1.6_3 was fine. > Since my upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE I was no longer able to connect to the > MSN network using irc/bitlbee_1.0.3_3 (which worked fine on 6.1) and > every account I had took an additional 75 seconds to load (timeout on > the socket) (net.inet.tcp.keepinit: 75000? or net.inet.tcp.keepintvl: > 75000?) > > After trying all kinds of things (openssl, gnutls), today I found out > that bitlbee had a --ipv6 knob in it's config and was able to run > bitlbee again after fiddling the Makefile. Then I set WITHOUT_IPV6 in > my make.conf and that worked as well. > To my surprise, a newly compiled PHP 5.2 now also works > > Should there not be a warning in the examples and man-pages for the > make.conf and GENERIC that you should set WITHOUT_IPV6 if you disable > INET6 and/or set NO_INET6? > Would save idiots like undersigned tripping into this dark hole.... > > Kind Regards, > > Spil. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I couldn't agree more. This makes it tough for those of us that want to get rid of the overhead of the IPV6 protocol in our systems, and a lot more work in researching whether or not a particular binary will cause problems. What you'll probably have to do Spil is contact the maintainer of each of those ports and request that some form of option or note be added to the port/pkg_desc. Michael Lawver From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 14:19:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC44E16A406 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [208.98.20.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC6D13C4F2 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from awww.jeah.net (localhost.jeah.net [127.0.0.1]) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l17DtdcR068443 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id l17DtdCK068440 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: awww.jeah.net: chris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:19:56 -0000 Just went from 4.11 to 5.3 to 6.2 yesterday. Thought everything went great! I was pleasantly surprised. Of course there had to be something. ;) Apache won't start. I cannot figure out why. No one I've asked can seem to figure out, either. So I turn to you and cross my fingers that this is something others have experienced. It's apache+mod_ssl-1.3.37+2.8.28 (with php4) from ports. Configtest says it's fine. apachectl start says it starts. But it actually doesn't. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in /var/log/httpd-error.log - and nothing in /usr/local/etc/apache/logs/error_log. I've deinstalled and reinstalled - same problem. I did a ktrace on running "httpd" at someone's suggestion, even converted it to text using kdump.. so I have it.. but am not really experienced with that, so I really have no idea how to read it. I think that's about it. Thank you so much for your help! Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 14:30:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53A716A402 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from mail.ticketswitch.com (mail.ticketswitch.com [194.200.93.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE9413C47E for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from [172.16.1.6] (helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by mail.ticketswitch.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEnof-000Kae-0H; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:33 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEnoc-00058Z-98; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:30 +0000 To: chris@JEAH.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:30 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:36 -0000 > Configtest says it's fine. apachectl start says it starts. But it > actually doesn't. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in > /var/log/httpd-error.log - and nothing in > /usr/local/etc/apache/logs/error_log. I had the same problem at the weekend. I upgrade by uninstalling all packages, cvsup, reinstall all packages. It turns out that I had forgotten to re-install cronolog which I use for log rotation. Without it apache dies siliently on startup. Check you havent got a similar thing going on. cheers, -pete. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 15:44:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB9E16A408 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F322D13C494 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 69202 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Feb 2007 15:16:59 -0000 To: Chris Byrnes Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> (Chris Byrnes's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:55:39 -0600 (CST)") References: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:16:59 +0100 Message-ID: <86ireero9g.fsf@sparrow.local> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:44:57 -0000 Chris Byrnes writes: > Of course there had to be something. ;) > > Apache won't start. I cannot figure out why. No one I've asked can > seem to figure out, either. So I turn to you and cross my fingers > that this is something others have experienced. > > Configtest says it's fine. apachectl start says it starts. But it > actually doesn't. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in > /var/log/httpd-error.log - and nothing in > /usr/local/etc/apache/logs/error_log. > > I've deinstalled and reinstalled - same problem. Check out the /etc/hosts file. Maybe your upgrade installed the default hosts file so you dont have any more entry that apache used to figure server's fully qualified domain name. -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 16:19:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C4516A409 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FA613C48E for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so214095uge for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:19:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TemOkAkzTgovkNq6bWlAaQ+riODS9UpVYT5pILtvplveadqW3wyOaOZBkKYu5vI5n+17f60BM/sy4IPtwx3ma5e9zgYAtBHAJtpVhvvpNU8Eqpkh7mTnZQ/SNTkwAOX9EIBxLoavuV1f2k3OHxnIl1uhyUw8Zbe3VC2JcZzWuOU= Received: by 10.78.20.13 with SMTP id 13mr2603662hut.1170863579223; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.100.9 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:52:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:52:58 +0100 From: "Claus Guttesen" To: "Chris Byrnes" In-Reply-To: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:19:15 -0000 > Apache won't start. I cannot figure out why. No one I've asked can seem > to figure out, either. So I turn to you and cross my fingers that this is > something others have experienced. What the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh rcvar ? regards Claus From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 16:44:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EF616A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803A913C4B4 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from [172.16.2.242] (cetus.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by magellan.palisadesys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l17GhxP9032812 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:43:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Message-ID: <45CA01D7.5000607@palisadesys.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:44:07 -0600 From: Guy Helmer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]); Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:44:00 -0600 (CST) X-Palisade-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Palisade-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Palisade-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Palisade-MailScanner-From: ghelmer@palisadesys.com Subject: 6.2 amd64 hang - deadlock? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:44:10 -0000 Here is the info I've grabbed from a Woodcrest Xeon machine that deadlocked under our stress test this morning. Oddly, even though it is built as an SMP kernel, it's only running one CPU of the four available cores - is that a result of having to set hint.apic.0.disabled="1" to avoid an interrupt problem? Anyway, our stress test has a lot of process churn (fork/exec) that has already exposed one race in procfs for which Kostik Belousov just commited a fix. What follows is a by-hand copy of what appears to be most relevant. I have a (large - 4GB) core dump that I can refer back to if necessary. Thanks in advance for any help! Guy db> show allpcpu Current CPU: 0 cpuid = 0 curthread = 0xffffff0x12f46b720: pid 17 "swi6: Giant taskq" curpcb = 0xffffffffb395ad10 fpcurthread = none idlethread = 0xffffff012f46a720: pid 10 "idle: cpu0" spin locks held: db> show alllocks Process 87741 (perform_ca) thread 0xffffff00acd90260 (100350) exclusive sx allproc r = 0 (0xffffffffff8070dd60) locked @ kern/kern_exit.c:674 exclusive sx proctree r = 0 (0xffffffffff8070dde0) locked @ kern/kern_exit.c:602 Process 83677 (ph) thread 0xffffff0065f15000 (100076) exclusive sx user map r = 0 (0xffffff00af53d6d0) locked @ vm/vm_map.c:3074 Process 813 (sendmail) thread 0xffffff012efa3000 (1000036) exclusive sx sysctl lock r = 0 (0xffffffff8070e580) locked @ kern/kern_sysctl.c:1375 Process 17 (swi6: Giant taskq) thread 0xffffff012f46b720 (1000012) exclusive sleep mutex Giant r = 0 (0xffffffff8070d300) locked @ kern/kern_intr.c:681 db> show sleepchain 87741 thread 100350 (pid 87741, perform_ca) is on a run queue db> show sleepchain 83677 thread 100299 (pid 83677, ph) sleeping on 0xffffff0065f15720 "umtx" db> show sleepchain 813 thread 1000036 (pid 813, sendmail) blocked on lk "allproc" EXCL (count 0) db> where 87741 Tracing pid 87741 tid 100350 td 0xffffff00acd90260 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch_0x1d2 maybe_preempt() at maybe_preempt+0x132 sched_add() at sched_add+x17e intr_event_schedule_thread() at intr_event_schedule_thread+0xbc atpic_handle_intr() at atpic_handle_intr+0x5b Xatpic_intr10() at Xatpic_intr10+0x6b --- interrupt, rip = 0xffffffff80325b88, rsp = 0xffffffffb63469d0, rbp = 0xffffffffb646a00 --- _mtx_lock_flags() at _mtx_lock_flags+0x8 _sx_asset() at _sx_assert+0x8f _sx_xunlock() at _sx_xunlock+0x33 kern_wait() at kern_wait+0x597 wait4() at wait4+0x38 syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (7, FreeBSD ELF64, wait4), rip = 0x4114fc, rsp = 0x7fffffffb9c8, rbp = 0x156c4 --- db> where 83677 Tracing pid 83677 tid 100299 td 0xffffff0065f15720 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x1d2 sleepq_switch() at sleepq_switch+0xc2 sleepq_wait_sig() at sleepq_wait_sig+0x28 msleep() at msleep+0x2d8 _do_lock() at _do_lock+0x598 _umtx_op() at _umtx_op+0x4d1 syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (454, FreeBSD ELF64, _umtx_op), rip = 0x800da0e3c, rsp = 0x7ffffedf63c8, rbp = 0xfa0180 --- db> where 813 Tracing pid 813 tid 1000036 td 0xffffff012efa3000 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x1d2 sleepq_switch() at sleepq_switch+0xc2 sleepq_wait() at sleepq_wait+0x40 cv_wait() at cv_wait+0x16f _sx_slock() at _sx_slock+0xb8 pfind() at pfind+0x22 sysctl_kern_proc_args() at sysctl_kern_proc_args+0x2f sysctl_root() at sysctl_root+0xa0 userland_sysctl() at userland_sysctl+0x11c __sysctl() at __sysctl+0xcd syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (202, FreeBSD ELF64, __sysctl), rip = 0x800d16afc, rsp = 0x7fffffffb048, rbp = 0x483d47 --- db> where 17 Tracing pid 17 tid 100012 td 0xffffff012f46b720 kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x2f scgetc() at scgetc+0x43e sckbdevent() at sckbdevent+0x83 kbdmux_intr() at kbdmux_intr+0x4d kbdmux_kbd_intr() at kbdmux_kbd_intr+0x20 taskqueue_run() at taskqueue_run+0x135 ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x14c fork_exit() at fork_exit+0xbb fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe --- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0xfffffffffb395ad00, rbp = 0 --- db> allt .... db> where 87429 Tracing command perform_ca pid 87429 tid 100145 0xffffff00b5861000 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x1d2 sleepq_switch() at sleepq_switch+0xc2 sleepq_wait() at sleepq_wait+0x40 cv_wait() at cv_wait+0x16f _sx_unlock() at _sx_unlock+0x71 _vm_map_lock() at _vm_map_lock+0x3e vm_map_remove() at vm_map_remove+0x2e pipe_free_kmem() at pipe_free_kmem+0x72 pipeclose() at pipeclose+0x272 pipe_close() at pipe_close+0x31 fdrop_locked() at fdrop_locked+0xa1 closef() at closef+0x35f close() at close+0x172 syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (6, FreeBSD ELF64, close), rip = 0x42425c, rsp = 0x7fffffffb9a8, rbp = 0 --- db> show sleepchain 819 thread 100055 (pid 819, sendmail) blocked on sx "sysctl lock" XLOCK thread 100036 (pid 813, sendmail) blocked on lk "allproc" EXCL (count 0) db> where 819 Tracing pid 819 tid 100055 td 0xffffff012efa3980 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x1d2 sleepq_switch() at sleepq_switch+0xc2 sleepq_wait() at sleepq_wait+0x40 cv_wait() at cv_wait+0x16f _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x71 userland_sysctl() at userland_sysctl+0xf5 __sysctl() at __sysctl+0xcd syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (202, FreeBSD ELF64, __sysctl), rip = 0x800d16afc, rsp = 0x7fffffffcde8, rbp = 0x3 --- db> From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 17:31:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B1816A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra6.eskimo.com (ultra6.eskimo.com [204.122.16.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B0F13C4A5 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by ultra6.eskimo.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l17HJ1Od005225; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:19:01 -0800 Received: (from joji@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA03997; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:19:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:19:01 -0800 From: Joseph Olatt To: Marko Lerota Message-ID: <20070207091901.A1839@eskimo.com> References: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> <86ireero9g.fsf@sparrow.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <86ireero9g.fsf@sparrow.local>; from mlerota@iskon.hr on Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 04:16:59PM +0100 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Chris Byrnes Subject: Re: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:31:56 -0000 On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 04:16:59PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: > Chris Byrnes writes: > > > Of course there had to be something. ;) > > > > Apache won't start. I cannot figure out why. No one I've asked can > > seem to figure out, either. So I turn to you and cross my fingers > > that this is something others have experienced. > > > > Configtest says it's fine. apachectl start says it starts. But it > > actually doesn't. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in > > /var/log/httpd-error.log - and nothing in > > /usr/local/etc/apache/logs/error_log. > > > > I've deinstalled and reinstalled - same problem. > > Check out the /etc/hosts file. Maybe your upgrade installed > the default hosts file so you dont have any more entry that > apache used to figure server's fully qualified domain name. Does /etc/rc.conf have a line similar to the following? apache22_enable="YES" (I'm running apache-2.2.4, hence apache22. In your case, could be apachecXX_enable="YES" where XX is your apache version.) > -- > One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk > Tacunka Witco > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 18:40:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D8A16A402 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0FB13C494 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l17IN1li049696 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:23:01 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:23:01 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070207211942.C14871@woozle.rinet.ru> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:23:02 +0300 (MSK) Cc: Subject: 6.2-STABLE crash int sched_4bsd (firefox) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:40:22 -0000 Dear colleagues, Today, my work desktop machine (firefox leads to reboot while machine being in xlock !) I've got crashdump, debugging kernel and all that buzz. Excerpt: Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x40658250 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc04c51e0 stack pointer = 0x28:0xefabfc30 frame pointer = 0x28:0xefabfc3c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 44349 (firefox-bin) trap number = 12 panic: page fault (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc04aff64 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #2 0xc04b0296 in panic (fmt=0xc060d066 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:565 #3 0xc05f7bec in trap_fatal (frame=0xefabfbf0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:837 #4 0xc05f72c4 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 8, tf_es = 40, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = -959748648, tf_esi = -1067089536, tf_ebp = -273941444, tf_isp = -273941476, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = -1067089328, tf_ecx = 25, tf_eax = 1080394320, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1068740128, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 65606, tf_esp = -959748648, tf_ss = -959748992}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:270 #5 0xc05e3a7a in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #6 0xc04c51e0 in runq_add (rq=0xc0658180, ke=0xc6cb65d8, flags=3) at kern_switch.c:854 #7 0xc04c48a0 in sched_add (td=0xc6cb6480, flags=3) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:1224 #8 0xc04c4f18 in setrunqueue (td=0xc710b900, flags=3) at kern_switch.c:602 #9 0xc04c475f in sched_switch (td=0xc710b900, newtd=0x0, flags=2) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:934 #10 0xc04b7d5f in mi_switch (flags=2, newtd=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:420 #11 0xc04d68d9 in ast (framep=0xefabfd38) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_trap.c:259 #12 0xc05e41cd in doreti_ast () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:293 Any hints to find the bug? Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 20:24:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB9516A403 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlist@cogeco.ca) Received: from fep9.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B88713C471 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlist@cogeco.ca) Received: from buddha.cogeco.ca (d141-2-106.home.cgocable.net [24.141.2.106]) by fep9.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7602F87E3 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:24:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:24:02 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Paul Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070207202410.7602F87E3@fep9.cogeco.net> Subject: Re: Filesystem corruption and bad perfomance with SRCS16 and PAE (raid 5 2TB) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:24:11 -0000 Hi Artem, Yes amd64 is for both Intel and AMD platforms. I have been having troubles with the SRCS16 on the amd64 platform 6.2 stable to give you the heads up if you are going this route. I was able to get around the problem you mentioned (if it is the same problem) by creating two arrays. One array was 100GIGs and the other was the balance of the drive (about 1.7 TB). This seemed to get rid of the corruption issues. Perhaps give this a try? going too close to 2TB was what I presumed was causing the corruption and read errors I was going as it went away when I installed the two arrays. I found a coupe of posts on another list that talk about this. I am using a S5000PAL with 5 * 500GIG SATA drives with 6.2 stable amd64. I did notice it was really SLOW when installing many parts of the new system and I am still very unhappy with the setup. Let me know your experience if you find it. I have done a bunch of benchmarking on this with the port tools but I am stuck at the freezing issue as that makes the system not usable. I wonder if you try the amd64 if you have the same problem I am having (slow performance, it locks for like 10-15 minutes when trying to mount root on bootup, and there are freezes that seem to happen from time to time when writing to the file system). I am still trying to debug these problems but have not found anyone with the same mother board yet with a working 6.2 amd64 install. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul At 02:43 PM 06/02/2007, you wrote: >Hello! > >I've got an Intel 2400A server to install FBSD. It has 4GB RAM, >SRCS16 raid controller, configured 2TB (actually a little less, >about 1.9TB) RAID-5 array, Xeon 3.2Ghz > >Recently i have installed 6.2-R, cvsupped it to 6.2-STABLE >(today, thanks to included csup utility, very convinient) and >decided to turn on PAE so i can utilize all 4GB of RAM (w/o PAE >i am loosing 512MB, too bad). From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 23:22:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9016A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (mail-in-08.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327AB13C48D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.18]) by mail-in-08.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859902257E0; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (mail-in-03.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.43]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9C85BD69; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-184-176.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.184.176]) by mail-in-03.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C83275B50; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l17IXd0e047486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l17IXaZu042791; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l17IXaik042790; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Joe Vender Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702062130.58069.jvender@owensboro.net> <200702070859.28646.lofi@freebsd.org> <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net> In-Reply-To: <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702071933.35688.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:22:11 -0000 --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > ... > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D55785 on record, your > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel ppp > > driver). > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit any > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating the > settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of everything > needed? > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having with > FreeBSD and KPPP. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Di386/98154 I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since that is= a=20 better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > Is there any intention to address it? I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. To th= at=20 end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone's benefit. > IMHO, setting up a dialup connection in FreeBSD via ppp seems like jumping > through hoops, even compared to linux. Personally, I think it's pretty easy - for modem users it usually means jus= t=20 editing four lines in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (device, phone number, user,=20 password) then typing ppp in a shell, then typing dial and= =20 they're online. That's pretty much the same amount of data input and=20 interaction that kppp requires. > I was told on the freebsd-questions=20 > mailing list that KPPP uses pppd, and that pppd is known to be very buggy > and essentially unmaintained in FreeBSD. If this is true, then a very > easy-to-use feature of KDE, namely KPPP for setting up a dialup connectio= n, > is not going to be usable. A lot of users are going to be put off FreeBSD > if they can't use KPPP with a serial modem on dialup. FreeBSD needs a > usable KPPP, and therefore a working and maintained pppd, if it has any > plans to be considered a user-friendly desktop alternative to linux, not = to > mention an alternative to Windows. Cheers, =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFyht/Xhc68WspdLARAqqaAKCf0NF/jhGSjKh1i2xgJMi9z1/U/wCeOcnp 0uMy9a0vtQrvbcifqh3YWHA= =UzVM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12604678.YGQuYBNEF8-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 04:42:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5E716A4F0 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [208.98.20.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1219513C4D5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from awww.jeah.net (localhost.jeah.net [127.0.0.1]) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l184gCJl060964; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:42:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id l184gC3t060961; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:42:12 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: awww.jeah.net: chris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:42:12 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Byrnes To: Joseph Olatt In-Reply-To: <20070207091901.A1839@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <20070207223929.U60461@awww.jeah.net> References: <20070207075254.H68353@awww.jeah.net> <86ireero9g.fsf@sparrow.local> <20070207091901.A1839@eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Marko Lerota , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache stopped working after upgrade to 6.2-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:42:19 -0000 Thank you for your help. It ended up being a bad ssl.key - who would have thought that? Ugh! I got really lucky while "poking around" and figured it out. Chris On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Joseph Olatt wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 04:16:59PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: >> Chris Byrnes writes: >> >>> Of course there had to be something. ;) >>> >>> Apache won't start. I cannot figure out why. No one I've asked can >>> seem to figure out, either. So I turn to you and cross my fingers >>> that this is something others have experienced. >>> >>> Configtest says it's fine. apachectl start says it starts. But it >>> actually doesn't. Nothing in /var/log/messages, nothing in >>> /var/log/httpd-error.log - and nothing in >>> /usr/local/etc/apache/logs/error_log. >>> >>> I've deinstalled and reinstalled - same problem. >> >> Check out the /etc/hosts file. Maybe your upgrade installed >> the default hosts file so you dont have any more entry that >> apache used to figure server's fully qualified domain name. > > > Does /etc/rc.conf have a line similar to the following? > apache22_enable="YES" > > (I'm running apache-2.2.4, hence apache22. In your case, could be > apachecXX_enable="YES" where XX is your apache version.) > > >> -- >> One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk >> Tacunka Witco >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 04:55:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5F916A416 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net (alnrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.225.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50A413C4B3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigc@crodrigues.org) Received: from c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([66.31.35.94]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20070208045523b12001iklke>; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:55:24 +0000 Received: from c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (localhost.crodrigues.org [127.0.0.1]) by c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l184tMOo001333; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:55:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigc@c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by c-66-31-35-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l184tLuT001332; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:55:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rodrigc) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:55:21 -0500 From: Craig Rodrigues To: Henri Hennebert Message-ID: <20070208045521.GA1274@crodrigues.org> References: <45C1C365.7020106@restart.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45C1C365.7020106@restart.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2-RELEASE - Fatal trap 12 - nvidia driver ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 04:55:42 -0000 On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Henri Hennebert wrote: > I experience Fatal trap 12 when I shutdown if I have run the X server > (with nvidia driver 1.0.9746). This crash happen 4/5 of the time. It is > in devfs_populate_loop() in devfs.c. I don't have the vmcore anymore :-/. Hi, Can you try to the patch to the 9746 driver available at: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1143321&postcount=27 The full thread is here: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1143321#post1143321 I received this information from freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com which is the e-mail address for reporting FreeBSD nVidia graphics driver bugs back to nVidia. -- Craig Rodrigues rodrigc@crodrigues.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 07:52:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773CF16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD3C13C46B for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id SAA20096; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:38:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:38:08 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200702071933.35688.lofi@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Joe Vender Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:52:47 -0000 On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > ... > > > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55785 on record, your > > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel ppp > > > driver). > > > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit any > > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating the > > settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of everything > > needed? > > > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having with > > FreeBSD and KPPP. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/98154 > > I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since that is a > better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > > > Is there any intention to address it? > > I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. To that > end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone's benefit. Perhaps we should rather be calling upon the KDE developer community to provide such a frontend interface to configure and invoke FreeBSD's ppp, for those who find a little manual configuration, as you describe below, beyond them? > > IMHO, setting up a dialup connection in FreeBSD via ppp seems like jumping > > through hoops, even compared to linux. > > Personally, I think it's pretty easy - for modem users it usually means just > editing four lines in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (device, phone number, user, > password) then typing ppp in a shell, then typing dial and > they're online. That's pretty much the same amount of data input and > interaction that kppp requires. Indeed. And connecting small scripts to go online, and to hangup when desired (eg by kill `cat /var/run/ppp0.pid`) to a pretty desktop button or two for the one-clicker's convenience would be a useful KDE addition, assuming that the Linux bias that makes some other functions of KDE less than useful on a FreeBSD system (despite the excellent work by porters), could likewise be ameliorated? Not to suggest that any pppd/kernel interaction problems ought not to be addressed by those wishing to maintain pppd for linux compatibility or other reasons, but the reality is that most FreeBSD users have long preferred user ppp for dialup, and more recently for ADSL via PPPoE. Respectfully, Ian (using KDE despite ongoing bloat and linux-centricism) > > I was told on the freebsd-questions > > mailing list that KPPP uses pppd, and that pppd is known to be very buggy > > and essentially unmaintained in FreeBSD. If this is true, then a very > > easy-to-use feature of KDE, namely KPPP for setting up a dialup connection, > > is not going to be usable. A lot of users are going to be put off FreeBSD > > if they can't use KPPP with a serial modem on dialup. FreeBSD needs a > > usable KPPP, and therefore a working and maintained pppd, if it has any > > plans to be considered a user-friendly desktop alternative to linux, not to > > mention an alternative to Windows. > > > Cheers, > -- > ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org > (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org > \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 07:57:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D77B16A412; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B5113C4A5; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A00F1A3C1A; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D8BB51588; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 02:56:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 02:56:57 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20070208075657.GA98754@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200702071933.35688.lofi@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Michael Nottebrock , Joe Vender Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:57:00 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:38:08PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > Not to suggest that any pppd/kernel interaction problems ought not to be > addressed by those wishing to maintain pppd for linux compatibility or > other reasons, but the reality is that most FreeBSD users have long > preferred user ppp for dialup, and more recently for ADSL via PPPoE. Not that it contradicts anything you said, but it's worth re-emphasizing that there is apparently no-one in the community interested in maintaining pppd on FreeBSD, which is how it got to the current sorry state. Kris --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFytfJWry0BWjoQKURAhmbAJ9FAoDDIoHv736zmrWLp6cBECcvrwCg5/+W xc26rP1slnkdsRCSwsYJc/A= =uHDl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 09:42:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D8A16A401 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8C9713C46B for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 49892 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2007 12:42:43 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 12:42:43 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 174244, updated: 8.02.2007] Message-ID: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:42:39 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:42:53 -0000 Hello! I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options 1) Full SATA-II support 2) Good rperfomance (over 50MB read, over 30 write) in mirror mode 3) No weird problems with freebSD (like with SRCS16) 4) Utility to monitor status of raids (command line or web) 5) Utility to rebuild, repair, manager arrays in OS 6) Preferably Intel I know, 3ware has such good stuff, but those controller are not certified for internet services in here (russia). So, i am pretty much limited to Intel controllers. Is there intel controller which satisfied all the 1-6 conditions? I only need mirroring. -- ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, áÒÔÅÍ ëÕÞÉÎ ïïï "áÊ ôÉ ìÅÇÉÏÎ" www.itlegion.ru +7 (495) 232-0338 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 09:57:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4287716A492 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE19213C4F3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43441B10E6A; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:57:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.125] (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA131B10E03; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:57:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45CAF3F1.80207@sun-fish.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:57:05 +0200 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Artem Kuchin References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:57:19 -0000 Hello, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options > > 1) Full SATA-II support > 2) Good rperfomance (over 50MB read, over 30 write) in mirror mode > 3) No weird problems with freebSD (like with SRCS16) > 4) Utility to monitor status of raids (command line or web) > 5) Utility to rebuild, repair, manager arrays in OS > 6) Preferably Intel I'm very happy with ARECA ARC1110. ARECA also provide cli tool for freebsd on their site. I'm using it in RAID 10 configuration and here are few benchmark results = that I run on production server ;) *bonnie++ -d /var/tmp -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16 Version 1.93c*= Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input-=20 --Random- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block--=20 --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP =20 /sec %CP blah.cmotd.com 16G 159 88 54264 24 24727 12 299 94 70744 19=20 223.5 12 Latency 63581us 803ms 1123ms 93936us 94991us =20 251ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random=20 Create-------- blah.cmotd.com -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read---=20 -Delete-- files:max:min /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP =20 /sec %CP 256:65536:65536/16 715 24 826 25 17321 49 733 24 51 2 =20 6039 70 Latency 1220ms 408ms 2805ms 1189ms 692ms =20 2735ms *./bonnie++ -d /mnt/mblogs -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16 -=20 Version 1.03* Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input-=20 --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block--=20 --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP =20 /sec %CP blah.cmotd.com 16G 54953 57 56950 21 24375 10 48757 49 70351 17=20 202.5 1 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random=20 Create-------- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read---=20 -Delete-- files:max:min /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP =20 /sec %CP 256:65536:65536/16 723 20 909 17 20905 41 756 21 51 2 =20 6528 74 FreeBSD blah.XXX 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #3: Tue Oct 10=20 13:28:56 CEST 2006 root@blah.XXX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CORE-SMP i386 > > I know, 3ware has such good stuff, but those controller are not > certified for internet services in here (russia). So, i am pretty much > limited to Intel controllers. Is there intel controller which=20 > satisfied all the > 1-6 conditions? I only need mirroring. > > --=20 > =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, > =C0=F0=F2=E5=EC =CA=F3=F7=E8=ED > =CE=CE=CE "=C0=E9 =D2=E8 =CB=E5=E3=E8=EE=ED" > www.itlegion.ru > +7 (495) 232-0338 > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" --=20 Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 10:08:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98F916A504 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: from bart.milos.co.za (bart.milos.co.za [196.38.18.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EEE13C54C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: (qmail 85348 invoked by uid 89); 8 Feb 2007 10:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO claylaptop) (clay@milos.za.net@192.168.3.254) by bart.milos.co.za with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2007 10:03:10 -0000 Message-ID: <009401c74b68$e19b45c0$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> From: "Clayton Milos" To: "Artem Kuchin" References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CAF3F1.80207@sun-fish.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:07:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1251"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:08:17 -0000 Hello, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Hello! > > I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options > > 1) Full SATA-II support > 2) Good rperfomance (over 50MB read, over 30 write) in mirror mode > 3) No weird problems with freebSD (like with SRCS16) > 4) Utility to monitor status of raids (command line or web) > 5) Utility to rebuild, repair, manager arrays in OS > 6) Preferably Intel I'm very happy with ARECA ARC1110. ARECA also provide cli tool for freebsd on their site. I'm using it in RAID 10 configuration and here are few benchmark results that I run on production server ;) *bonnie++ -d /var/tmp -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16 Version 1.93c* Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP blah.cmotd.com 16G 159 88 54264 24 24727 12 299 94 70744 19 223.5 12 Latency 63581us 803ms 1123ms 93936us 94991us 251ms Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- blah.cmotd.com -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files:max:min /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 256:65536:65536/16 715 24 826 25 17321 49 733 24 51 2 6039 70 Latency 1220ms 408ms 2805ms 1189ms 692ms 2735ms *./bonnie++ -d /mnt/mblogs -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16 - Version 1.03* Version 1.03 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP blah.cmotd.com 16G 54953 57 56950 21 24375 10 48757 49 70351 17 202.5 1 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files:max:min /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 256:65536:65536/16 723 20 909 17 20905 41 756 21 51 2 6528 74 FreeBSD blah.XXX 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #3: Tue Oct 10 13:28:56 CEST 2006 root@blah.XXX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CORE-SMP i386 > > I know, 3ware has such good stuff, but those controller are not > certified for internet services in here (russia). So, i am pretty much > limited to Intel controllers. Is there intel controller which satisfied > all the > 1-6 conditions? I only need mirroring. > > -- > Ñ óâàæåíèåì, > Àðòåì Êó÷èí > ÎÎÎ "Àé Òè Ëåãèîí" > www.itlegion.ru > +7 (495) 232-0338 I'll second Stefan with the Areca. I have an Areca 1120 8 port SATA2 controller. It hasn't given me an ounce of issues. It's got a nice CLI and web based interface as well as being SNMP manageable. Been running mine for 2 years without any issues at all. It also supports nifty things like online volume expansion and hot-swapping (if you have the hot-swap SATA drive bays) -Clay From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 10:08:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888016A583 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rink@thunderstone.rink.nu) Received: from mx1.rink.nu (thunderstone.rink.nu [80.112.228.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C513C4AA for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rink@thunderstone.rink.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.rink.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BDDD4C62; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:46:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rink.nu Received: from mx1.rink.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (thunderstone.rink.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qnwjnk91bLOS; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:46:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from thunderstone.rink.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.rink.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26EFD4C5E; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:46:20 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rink@localhost) by thunderstone.rink.nu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l189kK5T012807; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:46:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rink) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:46:20 +0100 From: Rink Springer To: Artem Kuchin Message-ID: <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:08:55 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote: > I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. Simple dd(1)-ing gives around 100MB/sec read and 70MB/sec write performance. You can use sysutils/areca-cli to monitor it and update settings (I have never tried actually creating arrays there though). The controllers are a tad expensive, but once you have one, you won't reget it. Regards, --=20 Rink P.W. Springer - http://rink.nu "It is such a quiet thing, to fall. 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Cc: ginga-freebsd@ginganet.org Subject: panic: interrupt from missing bus(HP xw8400 WS) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:24:23 -0000 Hi. I'm using [6.2-STABLE of Tue Feb 6 16:17:03 JST 2007], and HP xw8400 PC with 4GB memory, 2.0GHz Xeon x1. Other configuration is SAS(on-board), SCSI(see below). When FreeBSD-6-stable boots with this PC, it always panics at very first stage of booting just after loader. * Only way I can boot with this PC is to select "safe-mode" at loader selection(no SMP, etc...). * Disabling ACPI(as below), is not sufficient. loader> unset acpi_load loader> set hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 * GENERIC kernel also behaves the same. * Same thing happens with 6.2-R or before. ------------------------------------------------------- boot message going panic: ... FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 24 ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 48 panic: interrupt from missing bus cpuid - 0 Uptime: 1s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds .... ------------------------------------------------------- full boot message(with SAFE-mode): Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Tue Feb 6 16:17:03 JST 2007 ginga@somewhere.example.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIMPLE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5130 @ 2.00GHz (1995.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4e33d,CX16,,,> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 3757899776 (3583 MB) avail memory = 3678396416 (3507 MB) ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: pcibus 0 on motherboard pir0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci16: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci16 pci30: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci30 pci32: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 1.0 on pci30 pci31: on pcib4 bge0: mem 0xfb600000-0xfb60ffff irq 5 at device 0.0 on pci31 bge0: firmware handshake timed out miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:17:08:xx:xx:xx pcib5: at device 0.3 on pci16 pci17: on pcib5 mpt0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xfd410000-0xfd413fff,0xfd400000-0xfd40ffff irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci17 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.12.0 mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). pcib6: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci96: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci64: on pcib7 pci64: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib8: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci254: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci253: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci252: on pcib10 pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib11: irq 3 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib11 pcib12: at device 0.0 on pci8 pci9: on pcib12 mpt1: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf8400000-0xf841ffff,0xf8420000-0xf843ffff irq 3 at device 4.0 on pci9 mpt1: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt1: MPI Version=1.2.14.0 uhci0: port 0x3000-0x301f irq 3 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x3020-0x303f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x3040-0x305f irq 10 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x3060-0x307f irq 5 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xf8b04000-0xf8b043ff irq 3 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib13: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib13 fwohci0: mem 0xf8a04000-0xf8a047ff,0xf8a00000-0xf8a03fff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:60:b0:00:00:1c:2a:a3 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:60:b0:1c:2a:a3 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:60:b0:1c:2a:a3 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x30b0-0x30bf irq 11 at device 31.2 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pnpbios: error 0/82 getting device count/size limit pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xccfff,0xcd000-0xce7ff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/13 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1995008280 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave PIO4 da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 300.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) ... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 10:42:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A7C16A407 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) Received: from oola.is.scarlet.be (oola.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2D413C441 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) Received: from (ip-83-134-213-65.dsl.scarlet.be [83.134.213.65]) by oola.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id l18AghD26299; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:42:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.24.2] (morzine.restart.bel [192.168.24.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by restart.be (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l18Agcr3009561; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:42:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hlh@restart.be) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=restart.be; s=avoriaz; t=1170931359; bh=xTlems2cPgBzJilXwSDv1W6fHE8=; h=DomainKey-Signature: Message-ID:Date:From:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RIyB7xfQMOfGaadhaZZrgV3BAW8ySeKiN55qeQ 4ye3r8EF9aQ5oj6c6J7XTVoLa+fAQcXZUraPT6FzZXQ4PYSA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=avoriaz; d=restart.be; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IbRO+VZn9DAi2JzLzGqI/ak1PH3jObHK5Q3CtlyFemG3Ttw+FrXqydYYDtAYsTcG0 YWhankoS9OVC1nntAXOqg== Message-ID: <45CAFE9E.3010409@restart.be> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:42:38 +0100 From: Henri Hennebert Organization: RestartSoft User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues References: <45C1C365.7020106@restart.be> <20070208045521.GA1274@crodrigues.org> In-Reply-To: <20070208045521.GA1274@crodrigues.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: oola 20001; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2-RELEASE - Fatal trap 12 - nvidia driver ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:42:48 -0000 Craig Rodrigues wrote: > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Henri Hennebert wrote: >> I experience Fatal trap 12 when I shutdown if I have run the X server >> (with nvidia driver 1.0.9746). This crash happen 4/5 of the time. It is >> in devfs_populate_loop() in devfs.c. I don't have the vmcore anymore :-/. > > Hi, > > Can you try to the patch to the 9746 driver available at: > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1143321&postcount=27 Great! The shutdown completes successfully without problem (3 times in a row) With INVARIANTS I can now start xfce4. I can use XP under qemu in fullscreen mode and reboot XP without a crash as previously. All seems OK for me! Thanks, Henri > > The full thread is here: > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1143321#post1143321 > > I received this information from freebsd-gfx-bugs@nvidia.com which > is the e-mail address for reporting FreeBSD nVidia graphics driver > bugs back to nVidia. I put it in my contacts. > -- > Craig Rodrigues > rodrigc@crodrigues.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 10:44:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB8A16A48F; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FA713C4B2; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate1.punkt.de with ESMTP id l18AMorv004677; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:22:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l18AMna9042357; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:22:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id l18AMnrc042356; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:22:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:22:49 +0100 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: Rink Springer Message-ID: <20070208102249.GE38546@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Cc: Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:44:56 -0000 Hi, All On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote: > I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options > [...] For us the current solution is: "none at all". The big big advantage of using geom mirror instead of a "hardware RAID controller" is: The disks will boot and run in _any_ system that is capable of using the disks at all. Dedicated RAID controllers lock you to the specific brand and sometimes even model you use. Bad for desaster recovery. With a geom mirrored SCSI or SATA disk, if an entire system/mainboard/CPU fails, I simply plug the disks in the next spare box available, boot, possibly change name of network interface, done. With hardware evolving so rapidly nowadays you cannot guarantee to have another identical controller on the shelf when you need it. Happened to us with ICP-Vortex (iir) controllers. ROHS - product unavailable :-/ Successor not compatible in terms of on-disk data structure. We are now happily running RAID 1 and RAID 1+0 with geom. Regards, HTH, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH * Vorholzstr. 25 * 76137 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 10:47:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E131316A408 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: from bart.milos.co.za (bart.milos.co.za [196.38.18.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2050B13C491 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: (qmail 86854 invoked by uid 89); 8 Feb 2007 10:43:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO claylaptop) (clay@milos.za.net@192.168.3.254) by bart.milos.co.za with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2007 10:43:17 -0000 Message-ID: <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> From: "Clayton Milos" To: "Artem Kuchin" References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:47:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:47:30 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:42:39PM +0300, Artem Kuchin wrote: > I need a raid controller for FBSD 6.2 which has the following options I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. Simple dd(1)-ing gives around 100MB/sec read and 70MB/sec write performance. You can use sysutils/areca-cli to monitor it and update settings (I have never tried actually creating arrays there though). The controllers are a tad expensive, but once you have one, you won't reget it. Regards, -- Rink P.W. Springer - http://rink.nu "It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But yet a far more terrible thing, to admit it." - Darth Traya I have 2 arryas of 4 WD320G drives each running RAID0 (I have backups I just need the speed). root@homer:/nas #> dd if=/dev/zero of=test.file bs=65536 count=16384 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes transferred in 7.314186 secs (146802639 bytes/sec) -Clay From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 11:41:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8710216A401 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5AE13C478 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FECEB1AF5; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:41:01 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lGD7eUXdPWaj; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:40:47 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.217.12.154] (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB96EB08C6; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:40:47 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to: subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=NyF1oNs3Wu0XPI6szFzhp1oMC9tsJ0659O8EcQLgJT6PBWtNDAYmCY1r2gNV9R0hT GezgxvmTwixsKTGdL/JXQ== Message-ID: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:40:42 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tobez@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Stable X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigABE47D9B957854688481B48F" Cc: Subject: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:41:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigABE47D9B957854688481B48F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dyes is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. [root@sysdevel] /tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8# gdb miniperl miniperl.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you = are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for detail= s. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Core was generated by `miniperl'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8/libperl.so...done. Loaded symbols for /tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8/libperl.so= Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x84115dce in Perl_safesysmalloc (size=3D4080) at util.c:80 80 DEBUG_m(PerlIO_printf(Perl_debug_log, "0x%"UVxf": (%05ld) malloc %ld bytes\n",PTR2UV(ptr),(long)PL_an++,(long)size)); (gdb) bt full #0 0x84115dce in Perl_safesysmalloc (size=3D4080) at util.c:80 my_perl =3D (PerlInterpreter *) 0x0 my_perl =3D (PerlInterpreter *) 0x0 ptr =3D (void *) 0x8065000 #1 0x8413a2b3 in S_more_sv (my_perl=3D0x8064000) at sv.c:215 chunk =3D 0x8064000 "" sv =3D (SV *) 0x840679c8 #2 0x841447df in Perl_newSV (my_perl=3D0x8064000, len=3D79) at sv.c:4593= sv =3D (SV *) 0x292 #3 0x840b425c in perl_construct (my_perl=3D0x8064000) at perl.c:283 No locals. #4 0x0804bb6c in main (argc=3D5, argv=3D0xbfbfe75c, env=3D0xbfbfe774) at= miniperlmain.c:93 exitstatus =3D 16 And here is some excerpt from the build output: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8 cc -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib -o miniperl miniperlmain.o opmini.o libperl.so -lm -lcrypt -lutil LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8 ./miniperl -w -Ilib -MExporter -e '' || make minitest Segmentation fault (core dumped) cp ext/re/re.pm lib/re.pm LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8 ./miniperl -Ilib configpm --heavy=3Dlib/Config_heavy.pl lib/Config.pm Segmentation fault (core dumped) *** Error code 139 Stop in /tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8. *** Error code 1 (ignored) You may see some irrelevant test failures if you have been unable to build lib/Config.pm, lib/lib.pm or the Unicode data files. cd t && (rm -f perl; /bin/ln -s ../miniperl perl) && LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/tmp/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.8 ./perl TEST= -minitest base/*.t comp/*.t cmd/*.t run/*.t io/*.t op/*.t uni/*.t http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigABE47D9B957854688481B48F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyww6OfuToMruuMARA5veAJ4k66ndl/pOT1pbDsg6V328sTXXiwCfYzSx 6R0mc3w2CDH0usjelJREzeg= =PVaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigABE47D9B957854688481B48F-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 11:46:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D776C16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739E013C428 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE64EB1AFD; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:46:33 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ivWYOgnAu-um; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:46:25 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.217.12.154] (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C838EB1700; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:46:24 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=DDYX2JJTgGY31shx5IkeiYNBUzv5u+XW93k3gXDsaMju5kI0luh2Qhtp7I/8RMQOt BaCa0JIFqNsEOnR+d1bRA== Message-ID: <45CB0D8C.5030401@delphij.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:46:20 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LI Xin References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFFBCDF0CC8D78F3AE3E48397" Cc: FreeBSD Stable , tobez@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:46:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFFBCDF0CC8D78F3AE3E48397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LI Xin wrote: > Hi, >=20 > It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I > have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dye= s > is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. Another observation is that this happens with 6.2-RELEASE kernel with 6.1-RELEASE userland too. But 6.1+6.1 configuration is not affected. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigFFBCDF0CC8D78F3AE3E48397 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyw2MOfuToMruuMARA2GsAJ0STFj/y8K8QElHFY7SNhLayfUCOQCfXk5g yutPpPq7yMx523tGwD4/5lw= =8OjK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFFBCDF0CC8D78F3AE3E48397-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 11:59:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE916A512 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4577C13C474 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 9630 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2007 11:59:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.207.195]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Feb 2007 11:59:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:59:09 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070208125909.44308cfb@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.6.1 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_BhlH_BRyr.bKBETLmnJSkEz; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:59:20 -0000 --Sig_BhlH_BRyr.bKBETLmnJSkEz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LI Xin wrote: > It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I > have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dyes > is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. > Any hints? I ran into the same miniperl core dumps a few days ago while trying to switch back to non-threaded Perl (shortly after updating the system to a recent RELENG_6). The only way I found to "fix" it was to: - deinstall all Perl ports, - rebuild Perl - reinstall all Perl ports I assume miniperl somehow included incompatible local Perl libraries, but I didn't really look into it. Fabian --Sig_BhlH_BRyr.bKBETLmnJSkEz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFyxCNBYqIVf93VJ0RAuozAJ44SOce0gCYuOZopcEz7iff1wNSeACfRZpZ Cxr2JTo3jbWwV6zeJZefy9A= =/zCF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_BhlH_BRyr.bKBETLmnJSkEz-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 12:08:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17816A40A for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6470A13C478 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E93EB1B28; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:08:47 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d2N0mKrFNs81; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:08:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.217.12.154] (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41002EB08C6; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:08:36 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=pE90Qw5R4iCnVD/DmPG51yJXUNYmoq/EtxFLIEQNZVYhXG+yZ9mR5a1RyFqcN8QMl esQ73oysAeURZ2JduHkbw== Message-ID: <45CB12BF.60901@delphij.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:08:31 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabian Keil References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> <20070208125909.44308cfb@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070208125909.44308cfb@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA19476927C559183FD3956AE" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:08:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA19476927C559183FD3956AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fabian Keil wrote: > LI Xin wrote: >=20 >> It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I= >> have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dy= es >> is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. >=20 >> Any hints? >=20 > I ran into the same miniperl core dumps a few days ago > while trying to switch back to non-threaded Perl (shortly > after updating the system to a recent RELENG_6). >=20 > The only way I found to "fix" it was to: >=20 > - deinstall all Perl ports, > - rebuild Perl > - reinstall all Perl ports >=20 > I assume miniperl somehow included incompatible local > Perl libraries, but I didn't really look into it. Doesn't work for me... Do you mean that you have switched back to non-threaded Perl, after you have removed all Perl ports? Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigA19476927C559183FD3956AE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyxK/OfuToMruuMARA2H8AJ9cVx0mqVVQ1v09YlQ6X628TnP2IgCfUBhd QIlGoYnCBMcHqmPiFp6iom4= =8QLI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA19476927C559183FD3956AE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 12:12:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891E016A410; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B4913C4BB; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20EDEB1B28; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:12:08 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vEj2jmdtuDPV; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:11:58 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.217.12.154] (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61E2EB08C6; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:11:55 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=n2/I3PlRiQeoGiZqYx3UJutJ2kstQoAzKkd7N0g9Tj5B7ZaPHDv2aLAjQ78AOI2T8 ls1y6m4pSTl43BERm3c1w== Message-ID: <45CB1387.8010305@delphij.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:11:51 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LI Xin References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> <45CB0D8C.5030401@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <45CB0D8C.5030401@delphij.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB4B7FC1EEB4583ABB4B2C3FF" Cc: FreeBSD Stable , tobez@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:12:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB4B7FC1EEB4583ABB4B2C3FF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LI Xin wrote: > LI Xin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I= >> have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dy= es >> is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. >=20 > Another observation is that this happens with 6.2-RELEASE kernel with > 6.1-RELEASE userland too. But 6.1+6.1 configuration is not affected. Sorry, I mean that 6.1+6.1 configuration was not tested. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enigB4B7FC1EEB4583ABB4B2C3FF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyxOHOfuToMruuMARAwE/AJ4rcp7+QgxGn0nkV5ZWXh+QEW3IoACePb8r fXx1n1UhA30I0TcOM4gauTM= =uscP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB4B7FC1EEB4583ABB4B2C3FF-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 13:05:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207C316A407 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (heechee.tobez.org [194.255.56.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FE713C49D for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 57D37125420; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:34:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:34:38 +0100 From: Anton Berezin To: LI Xin Message-ID: <20070208123438.GA69932@heechee.tobez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Berezin , LI Xin , FreeBSD Stable References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Powered-By: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:05:58 -0000 On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:40:42PM +0800, LI Xin wrote: > It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I > have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=yes > is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. Yes, I've got more reports about that. It is related to the objformat commit which was made recently. I will have time to look for a fix tonight. \Anton. -- We're going for 'working' here. 'clean' is for people with skills... -- Flemming Jacobsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 14:43:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825E116A49E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay07.ispgateway.de (smtprelay07.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E170913C4A5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 31763 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2007 14:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.207.195]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay07.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Feb 2007 14:43:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:43:20 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070208154320.1fe20bbc@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45CB12BF.60901@delphij.net> References: <45CB0C3A.7020104@delphij.net> <20070208125909.44308cfb@localhost> <45CB12BF.60901@delphij.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.6.1 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_4d57BjAfCdfOG_ewsJCNOL0; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Can't build threaded perl 5.8 on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:43:50 -0000 --Sig_4d57BjAfCdfOG_ewsJCNOL0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LI Xin wrote: > Fabian Keil wrote: > > LI Xin wrote: > >=20 > >> It seems that threaded perl is broken on 6.2-RELEASE and 7-CURRENT. I > >> have tried some option combinations with no luck, if WITH_THREADED=3Dy= es > >> is specified then the build would fail with a coredump. > >=20 > >> Any hints? > >=20 > > I ran into the same miniperl core dumps a few days ago > > while trying to switch back to non-threaded Perl (shortly > > after updating the system to a recent RELENG_6). > >=20 > > The only way I found to "fix" it was to: > >=20 > > - deinstall all Perl ports, > > - rebuild Perl > > - reinstall all Perl ports > >=20 > > I assume miniperl somehow included incompatible local > > Perl libraries, but I didn't really look into it. >=20 > Doesn't work for me... Do you mean that you have switched back to > non-threaded Perl, after you have removed all Perl ports? Yes, but I had intended to switch back to non-threaded Perl from the beginning and that was when I ran into this. I had previously removed "WITH_THREADS=3Dyes" in make.conf, tried to "portupgrade -rf perl" and it didn't work because Perl itself didn't compile. I then forcefully pkg_add'ed a non-threaded Perl package (which made things a bit worse) but still wasn't able to recompile the p5-Ports. After removing everything Perl related first, it finally did. Fabian --Sig_4d57BjAfCdfOG_ewsJCNOL0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFyzceBYqIVf93VJ0RAmzOAJ9iJBJ3kLzb8/Sq95lpi668X6O1DgCgg0Io TVcwCCxSzJbvv/+jj3DXfMc= =9tyr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_4d57BjAfCdfOG_ewsJCNOL0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 16:09:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8964316A403 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5313C481 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB1B31E80F; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (mail-in-04.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.44]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CC623DE03; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-179-097.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.179.97]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E811D714C; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l18G9OmQ069842 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l18G9NVH020342; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l18G9Kfp020341; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Ian Smith Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:09:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1256124.vNzg7bzXiS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702081709.20395.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Joe Vender Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:09:33 -0000 --nextPart1256124.vNzg7bzXiS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 8. February 2007 08:38, Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > > > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D55785 on record, y= our > > > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel p= pp > > > > driver). > > > > > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit a= ny > > > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating > > > the settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of > > > everything needed? > > > > > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having > > > with FreeBSD and KPPP. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Di386/98154 > > > > I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since th= at > > is a better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > > > > > Is there any intention to address it? > > > > I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. = To > > that end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone= 's > > benefit. > > Perhaps we should rather be calling upon the KDE developer community to > provide such a frontend interface to configure and invoke FreeBSD's ppp, > for those who find a little manual configuration, as you describe below, > beyond them? You mean the FreeBSD-using KDE developer community, which is neither very b= ig=20 nor very prolific. I am convinced that remaining compatible with common Lin= ux=20 solutions will always be the better strategy as far as the desktop is=20 concerned. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1256124.vNzg7bzXiS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFy0swXhc68WspdLARApQ3AJ9fW07IXsRgMNYFHqu7WMmsHJyj+wCeIiaC 5ZvUfGFm5OMIE516NH7/M5c= =pH// -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1256124.vNzg7bzXiS-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 16:52:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056FF16A41A for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (sccrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.200.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED9813C48E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20070208165224014004275qe>; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:52:25 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B87B1FA01D; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:52:24 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Clayton Milos Message-ID: <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Clayton Milos , Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> X-PGP-Key: http://jdc.parodius.com/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:52:28 -0000 On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote: > I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a > ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital > SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. I have questions: 1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform drive tests, via smartctl? 2) Regardless of performance, have you actually tried a hard failure with these controllers and seen what both the controller and the OS do? A good example is to pull the SATA power plug out of one of the drives in the array while it's powered on and see what happens, both from a controller perspective and what FreeBSD does. The same question applies to hot-swapping. 3) Does Areca provide any form of carriage/enclosure medium, such as an enclosure which supports 4 drives, allows hot-swapping, and allows you to query the enclosure for statistics (fan RPM, thermals, and so on)? 4) string'ing the cli32 binary returns some references to SMART, but the monitoring is generally retarded (literally, not slang) -- it looks as if it just wants to use SMART to say "drive bad" or "drive good". This is not an effective use of SMART, and does nothing for those wanting to monitor drives properly (read: temperature, excessive ECC, perform SMART tests for bad blocks, etc.). 5) Is there native FreeBSD 6.x binaries for administrative utilities? It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong utility: ~/V1.5_50930 $ file cli32 cli32: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for FreeBSD 4.2, statically linked, not stripped Many controllers (including Adaptec) these days suffer from some or all of the above issues, too. Ultimately this turns me off to using any form of RAID controller; vendors who refuse to give full documentation for their hardware to engineers who want to write drivers for it, refuse to implement proper passthrough methods (I'm looking at you, Adaptec) so that you can talk to the drives directly if need be, nor provide you with any form of useful FreeBSD support ("here's our old crusty 3.x a.out binaries built by a guy who left the company 7 years ago! Thanks for buying , bye!") The best out of the bunch in this regards seems to be Promise, who despite having "ehhh" controllers, has given Soren lots of documen- tation and has been helpful in providing him answers to his questions. I can't say the same for other controller vendors. I'm sorry if I sound bitter, but I must have gone through 4 different brands of SATA RAID controllers before saying "screw this" and going with non-RAID or using geom. I don't have anything against Areca (I've never used their hardware), but I have no desire to use hardware which does not support the above things -- which in 2007 should be standard by all means. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 17:52:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0EB16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karagodov@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A64213C491 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karagodov@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so552516wra for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:52:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ufOSLG87iBZWyRdbT5RsTQkDHYoHaHjPQdzn+S20QhIriAc/itDszqPE/XCTfUKMnpd4o5LwfGYS4Dzk0Xr4eJhJYhJF7FAdImK4pNZ+v6hSUuQ2Hk6SsMd1L0CEGsfiZJVMi3QVbwPcKwJxZBqmuIMZuqJDQuXkIQlqx53De/M= Received: by 10.114.201.1 with SMTP id y1mr3498599waf.1170957131387; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.241.7 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:52:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:52:11 +0300 From: "Alexey Karagodov" To: "Clayton Milos" , "Artem Kuchin" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:52:14 -0000 http://www.3ware.com/ 2007/2/8, Jeremy Chadwick : > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote: > > I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a > > ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital > > SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. > > I have questions: > > 1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands > to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can > monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform > drive tests, via smartctl? > > 2) Regardless of performance, have you actually tried a hard failure > with these controllers and seen what both the controller and the > OS do? A good example is to pull the SATA power plug out of one > of the drives in the array while it's powered on and see what > happens, both from a controller perspective and what FreeBSD does. > The same question applies to hot-swapping. > > 3) Does Areca provide any form of carriage/enclosure medium, such as > an enclosure which supports 4 drives, allows hot-swapping, and > allows you to query the enclosure for statistics (fan RPM, thermals, > and so on)? > > 4) string'ing the cli32 binary returns some references to SMART, but > the monitoring is generally retarded (literally, not slang) -- it > looks as if it just wants to use SMART to say "drive bad" or "drive > good". This is not an effective use of SMART, and does nothing > for those wanting to monitor drives properly (read: temperature, > excessive ECC, perform SMART tests for bad blocks, etc.). > > 5) Is there native FreeBSD 6.x binaries for administrative utilities? > It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong utility: > ~/V1.5_50930 $ file cli32 > cli32: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for FreeBSD > 4.2, statically linked, not stripped > > Many controllers (including Adaptec) these days suffer from some or > all of the above issues, too. Ultimately this turns me off to > using any form of RAID controller; vendors who refuse to give full > documentation for their hardware to engineers who want to write > drivers for it, refuse to implement proper passthrough methods (I'm > looking at you, Adaptec) so that you can talk to the drives directly > if need be, nor provide you with any form of useful FreeBSD support > ("here's our old crusty 3.x a.out binaries built by a guy who left > the company 7 years ago! Thanks for buying , bye!") > > The best out of the bunch in this regards seems to be Promise, who > despite having "ehhh" controllers, has given Soren lots of documen- > tation and has been helpful in providing him answers to his > questions. I can't say the same for other controller vendors. > > I'm sorry if I sound bitter, but I must have gone through 4 different > brands of SATA RAID controllers before saying "screw this" and going > with non-RAID or using geom. I don't have anything against Areca > (I've never used their hardware), but I have no desire to use hardware > which does not support the above things -- which in 2007 should be > standard by all means. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 18:31:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CC716A407 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3246013C494 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C381A000B0C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:31:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id F8o4XEkUejdg for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from coal (s10.sbo [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752F51A000B1E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:31:40 -0800 (PST) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:31:39 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702081031.39615.fcash@ocis.net> Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:31:52 -0000 On Thursday 08 February 2007 08:52 am, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote: > > I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I > > have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western > > Digital SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. The following is from my experience with 3Ware Escalade RAID controllers (7506-4LP, 9500S-8, 9550SX-8. 9550SX-12 single and multi-lane). > I have questions: > 1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands > to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can > monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform > drive tests, via smartctl? Don't know, never checked. > 2) Regardless of performance, have you actually tried a hard failure > with these controllers and seen what both the controller and the > OS do? A good example is to pull the SATA power plug out of one > of the drives in the array while it's powered on and see what > happens, both from a controller perspective and what FreeBSD does. > The same question applies to hot-swapping. Pulling the plug on a drive running on FreeBSD 5.2.1, 5.3, and 6.0 didn't phase the OS. A message was logged to the console and /var/log/messages that the array was degraded, an e-mail was sent to my account and my phone that the array was degraded, and everything continued merrily on. We ran the test server for three weeks with one drive disconnected. Couldn't really notice any performance lags in normal use (it was a mail filtering gateway box running Postfix, MySQL, Amavisd-new, and ClamAV). When we plugged the drive back in, a message was logged (and send via e-mail) that a new drive was found, and a rebuild was underway. Took three or four days to rebuild the array during normal usage, and performance did take a hit during this time. After the rebuild completed, another message was logged and an e-mail sent saying everything was back to normal. > 3) Does Areca provide any form of carriage/enclosure medium, such as > an enclosure which supports 4 drives, allows hot-swapping, and > allows you to query the enclosure for statistics (fan RPM, thermals, > and so on)? Don't have any experience with actual enclosures (with fans and thermals - at least not for monitoring purposes) but the 3Ware cards work well in hot-swappable drive bays in our 2U, 4U, and 5U rackmounts. > 5) Is there native FreeBSD 6.x binaries for administrative utilities? > It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong utility: > ~/V1.5_50930 $ file cli32 > cli32: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for > FreeBSD 4.2, statically linked, not stripped Don't know about the ARECA but the 3Ware cli is a FreeBSD native binary (don't have any FreeBSD boxes with 3Ware cards at the moment to run file on - they're all Debian Etch now), although we used the web GUI for everything (3dm2). -- Freddie Cash fcash@ocis.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 19:02:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEA016A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5E813C491 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l18J29L7082779; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:02:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l18J24Dm055927 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:02:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:04:09 -0500 To: Jeremy Chadwick , Clayton Milos From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:02:11 -0000 At 11:52 AM 2/8/2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote: > > I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I have a > > ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western Digital > > SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. > >I have questions: > >1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands > to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can > monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform > drive tests, via smartctl? There is the pass0 interface, but not sure what you can set. Smartmon doesnt seem to work, or at least I havent used it. Here is what you get via the cli tool for disk info # ./cli32 "disk smart drv=1" # Attribute Items Flag Value Thres State =============================================================================== 1 Raw Read Error Rate 0x0f 49 6 OK 3 Spin Up Time 0x03 98 0 OK 4 Start/Stop Count 0x32 100 20 OK 5 Reallocated Sector Count 0x33 100 36 OK 7 Seek Error Rate 0x0f 86 30 OK 9 Power-on Hours Count 0x32 81 0 OK 10 Spin Retry Count 0x13 100 97 OK 12 Device Power Cycle Count 0x32 100 20 OK 194 Temperature 0x22 35 0 OK 197 Current Pending Sector Count 0x12 100 0 OK 198 Off-line Scan Uncorrectable Sector Count 0x10 100 0 OK 199 Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 0x3e 200 0 OK =============================================================================== GuiErrMsg<0x00>: Success. # ./cli32 "disk info" Ch ModelName Serial# FirmRev Capacity State =============================================================================== 1 ST3250823AS 3ND02GC5 3.01 250.1GB RaidSet Member(1) 2 ST3250823AS 3ND02WRF 3.01 250.1GB RaidSet Member(1) 3 ST3250823AS 3ND02X9G 3.01 250.1GB RaidSet Member(1) 4 ST3250823AS 3ND02YRL 3.01 250.1GB RaidSet Member(1) =============================================================================== GuiErrMsg<0x00>: Success. >2) Regardless of performance, have you actually tried a hard failure > with these controllers and seen what both the controller and the > OS do? Yes. Its not as nice as the 3ware (I have done LOTS of those and my heart remains at normal levels when I change out dead drives...) I am still a little nervous with the Areca, but it has worked so far on the couple that I have done. >3) Does Areca provide any form of carriage/enclosure medium, such as > an enclosure which supports 4 drives, allows hot-swapping, and > allows you to query the enclosure for statistics (fan RPM, thermals, > and so on)? Not Areca branded, but the generic ones I have picked up seem to work just fine. >4) string'ing the cli32 binary returns some references to SMART, but > the monitoring is generally retarded (literally, not slang) -- it > looks as if it just wants to use SMART to say "drive bad" or "drive > good". Seems to give a bit more than that. >This is not an effective use of SMART, and does nothing > for those wanting to monitor drives properly (read: temperature, > excessive ECC, perform SMART tests for bad blocks, etc.). > >5) Is there native FreeBSD 6.x binaries for administrative utilities? > It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong utility: > ~/V1.5_50930 $ file cli32 > cli32: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for > FreeBSD 4.2, statically linked, not stripped I use it under RELENG_6. The cli is a 42 binary, but it works just fine on RELENG_6. You dont need any klds loaded to use it, nor the monitoring daemon. >The best out of the bunch in this regards seems to be Promise, who >despite having "ehhh" controllers, has given Soren lots of documen- >tation and has been helpful in providing him answers to his >questions. I can't say the same for other controller vendors. But Areca and 3ware provided developer time to make the drivers for FreeBSD. Should this not be encouraged / applauded as well ? Especially 3ware, support has been awesome over the years and Areca I think has a lot of the specs open and published... Enough so that the People's Popular Front of BSD (aka OpenBSD) wrote their own native driver for the Areca. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 19:54:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B714A16A4C2 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.192.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB4713C474 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20070208195411m12006jraue>; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:54:11 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACB3C1FA01D; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:54:10 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Mike Tancsa Message-ID: <20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Tancsa , Clayton Milos , Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> X-PGP-Key: http://jdc.parodius.com/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Clayton Milos , Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 19:54:12 -0000 On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:09PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > There is the pass0 interface, but not sure what you can > set. Smartmon doesnt seem to work, or at least I havent used it. > Here is what you get via the cli tool for disk info > > # ./cli32 "disk smart drv=1" > {snip} Excellent -- this is the exact kind of information which is needed. It appears the utility can indeed obtain all SMART statistics from the drive, rather than just an overview: awesome. > Yes. Its not as nice as the 3ware (I have done LOTS of those and my > heart remains at normal levels when I change out dead drives...) I am > still a little nervous with the Areca, but it has worked so far on > the couple that I have done. Based on past readings about 3Ware controllers, I have a tendancy to avoid them. Here's some history I base my opinions on (and a small bit based on feedback I've gotten from people at Rackable): http://marc2.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-hardware&m=112195259113670&w=2 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-October/018673.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-September/008655.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-September/036251.html (see rwatson's comment in this one) Now, those reported issues could be a number of things, but firmware issues seem to stand out like a sore thumb. Also, a lot of my information is in regards to the 7xxx series, which is "quite old". I'm assuming everyone now is using the 9xxx series, and I have no idea what those are like. > Not Areca branded, but the generic ones I have picked up seem to work > just fine. I've never used Areca, so they're new to me. Good to know -- thanks! > I use it under RELENG_6. The cli is a 42 binary, but it works just > fine on RELENG_6. You dont need any klds loaded to use it, nor the > monitoring daemon. There's no need for compat4x because the binary is statically linked. Not to be sore about it, but I'm questioning a vendor who only builds tools on 4.x machines (surely they *test* their controllers on 5/6.x and -CURRENT, so why is the management utility for 4.x?) If the utility works perfectly, great. But surely you can see where I'm coming from... > But Areca and 3ware provided developer time to make the drivers for > FreeBSD. Should this not be encouraged / applauded as well > ? Especially 3ware, support has been awesome over the years and > Areca I think has a lot of the specs open and published... Enough so > that the People's Popular Front of BSD (aka OpenBSD) wrote their own > native driver for the Areca. I'm used to the big boys: Intel, EMC, Adaptec, Sun, Network Appliance (if they fall into this category) and Promise, so you'll have to excuse my ignorance. From the look of feedback provided here, Areca looks to be an excellent contender. I have zero interest in Intel and Adaptec (especially the latter), and EMC, Sun, and Netapp are all too expensive for consumer use. And yes, AMCC deserves a shout-out for being FreeBSD-friendly. Even though I don't have one of their controllers, it doesn't matter -- I am always appreciative of vendors who believe in testing their hardware on more than just one single open-source OS (Linux ;) ). Thanks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 20:49:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5127E16A406 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frode@nordahl.net) Received: from smtp1.powertech.no (smtp1.powertech.no [195.159.0.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8C213C4AA for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frode@nordahl.net) Received: from [195.159.148.126] (dhcp7.xu.nordahl.net [195.159.148.126]) by smtp1.powertech.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FB48B20; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:49:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20061127092146.GA69556@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <456950AF.3090308@sh.cvut.cz> <20061127092146.GA69556@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <84F23118-A6C3-44F8-B3FD-AE21C50D0EF9@nordahl.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Frode Nordahl Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:49:23 +0100 To: Kostik Belousov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, V??clav Haisman , tegge@freebsd.org, bde@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kqueue LOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:49:15 -0000 On 27. nov. 2006, at 10.21, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:30:39AM +0100, V??clav Haisman wrote: >> Hi, >> the attached lor.txt contains LOR I got this yesterday. It is >> FreeBSD 6.1 >> with relatively recent kernel, from last week or so. >> >> -- >> VH > >> +lock order reversal: >> + 1st 0xc537f300 kqueue (kqueue) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c: >> 1547 >> + 2nd 0xc45c22dc struct mount mtx (struct mount mtx) @ /usr/src/ >> sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:138 >> +KDB: stack backtrace: >> +kdb_backtrace(c07f9879,c45c22dc,c07fd31c,c07fd31c,c080c7b2,...) >> at kdb_backtrace+0x2f >> +witness_checkorder(c45c22dc,9,c080c7b2,8a,c07fc6bd,...) at >> witness_checkorder+0x5fe >> +_mtx_lock_flags(c45c22dc,0,c080c7b2,8a,e790ba20,...) at >> _mtx_lock_flags+0x32 >> +ufs_itimes(c47a0dd0,c47a0e90,e790ba78,c060e1cc,c47a0dd0,...) at >> ufs_itimes+0x6c >> +ufs_getattr(e790ba54,e790baec,c0622af6,c0896f40,e790ba54,...) at >> ufs_getattr+0x20 >> +VOP_GETATTR_APV(c0896f40,e790ba54,c08a5760,c47a0dd0,e790ba74,...) >> at VOP_GETATTR_APV+0x3a >> +filt_vfsread(c4cf261c,6,c07f445e,60b,0,...) at filt_vfsread+0x75 >> +knote(c4f57114,6,1,1f30c2af,1f30c2af,...) at knote+0x75 >> +VOP_WRITE_APV(c0896f40,e790bbec,c47a0dd0,227,e790bcb4,...) at >> VOP_WRITE_APV+0x148 >> +vn_write(c45d5120,e790bcb4,c5802a00,0,c4b73a80,...) at vn_write >> +0x201 >> +dofilewrite(c4b73a80,1b,c45d5120,e790bcb4,ffffffff,...) at >> dofilewrite+0x84 >> +kern_writev(c4b73a80,1b,e790bcb4,8220c71,0,...) at kern_writev+0x65 >> +write(c4b73a80,e790bd04,c,c07d899c,3,...) at write+0x4f >> +syscall(3b,3b,bfbf003b,0,bfbfeae4,...) at syscall+0x295 >> +Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f >> +--- syscall (4, FreeBSD ELF32, write), eip = 0x2831d727, esp = >> 0xbfbfea1c, ebp = 0xbfbfea48 --- > > Thank you for the report. The LOR is caused by my commit into > sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c, rev. 1.280. While debugging a problem I have with 6.2-RELEASE on one of my servers I saw this LOR. After being up for a short while the server freezes, not responding to serial console, network og keyboard. I can't even get to DDB by sending BREAK on the serial console. Enabling INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN did not give more information about the freeze other than printing the LOR now and then. The LOR I am getting is exactly the same except the calls are made to writev instead of write. > What application you run that triggers the LOR ? Patch below is one > possible approach to fixing it. I am seeing this on a front-end MX server, I can trigger it by running "tail -f /var/log/maillog", the LOR is printed before any output is printed by tail. After triggering it once, it will not trigger regularilly until waiting for some time. Waiting 180 seconds seems to be good to make it happen every time, but it can be triggered earlier. My maillog grows about 976K during that time. May this LOR have something to do with the system freze I am experiencing? Should I try the patch in your mail from november 27. or december 13? Or has some other fix emerged since then? -- Frode Nordahl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:21:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F82C16A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ADE13C467 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 51678 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2007 21:21:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 21:21:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:21:00 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Freddie Cash In-Reply-To: <200702081031.39615.fcash@ocis.net> Message-ID: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <200702081031.39615.fcash@ocis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:21:13 -0000 On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Thursday 08 February 2007 08:52 am, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:47:10PM +0200, Clayton Milos wrote: >>> I can highly recommend the Areca family of SATA-II controllers. I >>> have a ARC-1110 (4 poort RAID controller) with 4x 320GB Western >>> Digital SATA-II drives attached to it in a RAID5 configuration. > > The following is from my experience with 3Ware Escalade RAID controllers > (7506-4LP, 9500S-8, 9550SX-8. 9550SX-12 single and multi-lane). > >> I have questions: >> 1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands >> to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can >> monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform >> drive tests, via smartctl? > > Don't know, never checked. Yes: [root@archive /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools]# smartctl -a -d 3ware,0 /dev/twa0 smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.2] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce AllenHome page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 family Device Model: ST3250824AS Serial Number: 3ND Firmware Version: 3.AAD User Capacity: 250,059,350,016 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 7 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Thu Feb 8 16:19:53 2007 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 430) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 100) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 119 099 006 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 098 098 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 25 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 071 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 12913362 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 3110 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 40 187 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 189 Unknown_Attribute 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 065 055 045 Old_age Always - 622329891 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 035 045 000 Old_age Always - 35 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/23) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 057 051 000 Old_age Always - 86235674 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0 202 TA_Increase_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 2 - # 2 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 1 - SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. Charles From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:35:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3455A16A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D259413C4A8 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 75421 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2007 21:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 21:35:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:34:57 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> <20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:35:11 -0000 On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:09PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> There is the pass0 interface, but not sure what you can >> set. Smartmon doesnt seem to work, or at least I havent used it. >> Here is what you get via the cli tool for disk info >> >> # ./cli32 "disk smart drv=1" >> {snip} > > Excellent -- this is the exact kind of information which is needed. > It appears the utility can indeed obtain all SMART statistics from > the drive, rather than just an overview: awesome. > >> Yes. Its not as nice as the 3ware (I have done LOTS of those and my >> heart remains at normal levels when I change out dead drives...) I am >> still a little nervous with the Areca, but it has worked so far on >> the couple that I have done. > > Based on past readings about 3Ware controllers, I have a tendancy > to avoid them. Here's some history I base my opinions on (and a > small bit based on feedback I've gotten from people at Rackable): > > http://marc2.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-hardware&m=112195259113670&w=2 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-October/018673.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-September/008655.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-September/036251.html > (see rwatson's comment in this one) Those all seem like very old threads. I have not seen any complaints of late. It's my understanding that like Areca, 3Ware has an employee with commit privs in FreeBSD. Perhaps someone else can clarify what the relationship is. > Now, those reported issues could be a number of things, but firmware > issues seem to stand out like a sore thumb. Also, a lot of my > information is in regards to the 7xxx series, which is "quite old". > I'm assuming everyone now is using the 9xxx series, and I have no > idea what those are like. They kick ass is what they are like. :) I had a 3U box with a 12 port controller sitting next to my desk for a few weeks and my only goal was to confuse/break the 3Ware controller. No amount of power plug pulling, pulling multiple drives, quickly re-arranging drives could confuse the controller. Made the SCSI stuff we use look like absolute neurotic junk. The firmware seems very solid, at least in it's fault recovery logic. While I'm not a big fan of web interfaces, the (native) one from 3Ware actually makes some tasks easier. It even supports SSL out of the box (yes, my expectations are low to get excited about that). The things that steered me away from Areca, which was the other SATA-II product we were considering were: -They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical" part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, what happens to your card? Does it melt or just start acting weird? If the engineers didn't consider that, what other failure modes did their limited creativity miss? :) -Availability. None of our normal dealers could get them. -Not many people seemed to be using them, so less feedback available and the whole package (hardware/firmware/driver) has less exposure than 3Ware. -3Ware answered pre-sales questions, Areca didn't. Performance and feature-wise the Areca and 3Ware seemed pretty close, so we went with 3Ware. That's just my $0.02. > There's no need for compat4x because the binary is statically linked. > Not to be sore about it, but I'm questioning a vendor who only builds > tools on 4.x machines (surely they *test* their controllers on 5/6.x > and -CURRENT, so why is the management utility for 4.x?) As you should. The message sent is that they either don't care about 5.x/6.x, are confused about FreeBSD in general, or are exceedingly lazy. > I'm used to the big boys: Intel, EMC, Adaptec, Sun, Network Appliance > (if they fall into this category) and Promise, so you'll have to > excuse my ignorance. Promise??? That said, I've also recently went with gmirror on two boxes where I just needed a 2 unit mirror. No problems yet. Another poster mentioned that a gmirror advantage is that you can take drives from one box to another. That is of course true, but in the case of 3Ware you can do this if you have a two disk mirror - I tested it to confirm. All the raid info gets stuffed at the end of the disk. I had no problems taking a drive out of the 3Ware and plugging it directly into an SATA port on the mainboard and booting... Charles > Thanks. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:50:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88DC16A405; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mail.thinkburst.com (mail.thinkburst.com [66.210.222.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0A913C4B9; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [66.210.222.36]) by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A981CC5F; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:50:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from thinkburst.com (bacchus.thinkburst.com [10.1.1.25]) by mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24BC17040; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:50:29 -0600 (CST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:50:28 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? Thread-Index: AcdLyRCukFd4K5PORkmu2zCEIMroWAAAHisw References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem><20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu><00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop><20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan><200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca><20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "Charles Sprickman" , "Jeremy Chadwick" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:50:30 -0000 > They kick ass is what they are like. :) >=20 > I had a 3U box with a 12 port controller sitting next to my desk for a > few weeks and my only goal was to confuse/break the 3Ware controller. > No amount of power plug pulling, pulling multiple drives, quickly > re-arranging drives could confuse the controller. Made the SCSI stuff > we use look like absolute neurotic junk. Forgot that note - Areca handles drive "location" changes the same way. I assume this is handled by metadata on the drive. > -They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical" > part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, > what happens to your card? Does it melt or just start acting weird? > If the engineers didn't consider that, what other failure modes did=20 > their limited creativity miss? :) Strange. Our 1160 has a fan, but also had just a heatsink (no fan) that was in the box. My 1261ML was heatsink only. I believe someone asked for the feature. Both controllers monitor the fan and would notify you if the fan "died". You can turn the option on or off (off by default) if you need to. > -Availability. None of our normal dealers could get them. Availability seems to be a bit better now, but I can't answer for your dealers. > -Not many people seemed to be using them, so less feedback available > and the whole package (hardware/firmware/driver) has less exposure than > 3Ware. While the 9xxx series seem to be great (use a different driver), the "twe" cards caused me so much grief that I was afraid to try them out. We had a bunch of corruption issues (in RAID 5) with our 75xx controllers that I was never able to fix. RAID 0 or 1 seems to work just fine for them. > -3Ware answered pre-sales questions, Areca didn't. Perhaps they've changed? I spent a good hour on the phone with a tech before we purchased our first controller. This was last year sometime. > Performance and feature-wise the Areca and 3Ware seemed pretty close, > so we went with 3Ware. Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :( Jaime Bozza Qlinks Media Group From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:55:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B95416A402; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mail.thinkburst.com (mail.thinkburst.com [66.210.222.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B136313C4B5; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [66.210.222.36]) by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D871CC6F; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:26:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from thinkburst.com (bacchus.thinkburst.com [10.1.1.25]) by mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5FC17047; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:26:27 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {4AA736A3-E35D-47C9-BF9E-91A2A5DC9FB6} X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:25:57 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? x-cr-hashedpuzzle: GLCv KIpN KfoX MvhQ P0m/ Rqyr Sf9E bNne cd32 et5L hR1p iOh5 lTgk pO9N rOea uxmQ; 4; YwBsAGEAeQBAAG0AaQBsAG8AcwAuAGMAbwAuAHoAYQA7AGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALQBzAHQAYQBiAGwAZQBAAGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALgBvAHIAZwA7AGsAbwBpAHQAcwB1AEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAbQBhAHQAcgBpAHgAQABpAHQAbABlAGcAaQBvAG4ALgByAHUA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {4AA736A3-E35D-47C9-BF9E-91A2A5DC9FB6}; agBiAG8AegB6AGEAQABxAGwAaQBuAGsAcwBtAGUAZABpAGEALgBjAG8AbQA=; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:25:57 GMT; UgBFADoAIABXAGgAYQB0ACAAaQBzACAAYQAgAGcAbwBvAGQAIABjAGgAbwBpAGMAZQAgAG8AZgAgAHMAYQB0AGEALQBpAGkAIAByAGEAaQBkACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAGYAbwByACAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAA/AA== Thread-Index: AcdLoddb3V3Hzc3uQ3CwbzalIa0D8wAJTiUA References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem><20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu><00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" , "Clayton Milos" Cc: Artem Kuchin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:55:54 -0000 I want to second the recommendation for Areca controllers. We have two systems - The first is using an 1160 (16-port PCI-x) with 16 400GB drives, the 2nd is using the newer 1261ML card (16 port PCI Express, mini SAS connectors) with 16 500GB drives. Comments below: > 1) Do these controllers, from a BIOS level, permit SMART commands > to be sent directly to the drives (via pass(4)) so you can > monitor drives for potential upcoming failures and perform > drive tests, via smartctl? The cli32 will give you smart attributes, but no testing when the drive is part of a RaidSet. The controllers do support passthrough with JBOD. See below for more information. > 2) Regardless of performance, have you actually tried a hard failure > with these controllers and seen what both the controller and the > OS do? A good example is to pull the SATA power plug out of one > of the drives in the array while it's powered on and see what > happens, both from a controller perspective and what FreeBSD does. > The same question applies to hot-swapping. Both our systems are using RAID 6, and I've tested them thoroughly. I've pulled one drive out, OS didn't really care. The 16-port cards have their own Ethernet interface which will send emails for any events. Put the drive back in and the controllers just automatically start rebuilding. While I was rebuilding, I pulled a different drive. Again - FreeBSD happily went on. Put the drive back in and the controllers would rebuild the 2nd drive after done with the first. During all this, FreeBSD could do anything it wanted with the array. I then dropped power to the entire system. Coming back on, it would start rebuilding once FreeBSD started to load (the controller needs to have an OS Driver loaded before it starts to rebuild, or you need to go into the BIOS utility to process the rebuild in the foreground). Booting, fsck, or anything else would work just fine while the system was rebuilding. You can set the background processing to be 5%, 20%, 50%, or 80%. Obviously, 80% will be quicker but slow down access to the system. I didn't feel that it slowed down TOO much, but that is a matter of opinion. Setting it to 5% or 20% should have little or no change in performance. > 3) Does Areca provide any form of carriage/enclosure medium, such as > an enclosure which supports 4 drives, allows hot-swapping, and > allows you to query the enclosure for statistics (fan RPM, thermals, > and so on)? Areca supports individual HD Activity/Failure connections and the I2C standard. I don't believe Areca has its own external drive cage, but it'll work with many others. I'm not sure about drive cage thermals or fans, but it monitors everything about the drives. We handle case thermals via the motherboard. The controllers we have do not have any external connectors, so it would all be internal. > 4) string'ing the cli32 binary returns some references to SMART, but > the monitoring is generally retarded (literally, not slang) -- it > looks as if it just wants to use SMART to say "drive bad" or "drive > good". This is not an effective use of SMART, and does nothing > for those wanting to monitor drives properly (read: temperature, > excessive ECC, perform SMART tests for bad blocks, etc.). In RAID mode, I don't think it allows you to test each drive directly. It'll monitor the SMART attributes and generate warnings (for instance, if a drive gets too hot), or if there are other problems. If you're looking at using the controller in JBOD mode, or a drive in JBOD mode, you can create a passthrough, which I would assume would allow you direct access, but I haven't tested that. >=20 > 5) Is there native FreeBSD 6.x binaries for administrative utilities? > It doesn't look like it, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong utility: > ~/V1.5_50930 $ file cli32 > cli32: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, for > FreeBSD 4.2, statically linked, not stripped While the utility may be 4.2, it's statically linked, so it works fine on any later version (of FreeBSD) I've tested. =20 > I'm sorry if I sound bitter, but I must have gone through 4 different > brands of SATA RAID controllers before saying "screw this" and going > with non-RAID or using geom. I don't have anything against Areca > (I've never used their hardware), but I have no desire to use hardware > which does not support the above things -- which in 2007 should be > standard by all means. The only thing that the Areca cards may not give you is the ability to run SMART tests on a drive. I think the idea is that Areca just monitors the drive and if the drive reports any sort of stability, it takes the drive offline and notifies you. In a case like that, I would be more inclined to pull the drive, replace it with a new one, and run my tests on the old (possibly bad) drive outside the RAID array. IMHO, I don't want to take chances testing a drive and having the array in a degraded state. Another possibility would be to set aside one port that you don't use, and create a passthrough for that port to run your tests. Running additional tests and leaving an array in a degraded state is (again, my opinion) asking for trouble. =20 Hope that helps! Jaime Bozza Qlinks Media Group From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 22:12:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1476B16A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from mindcrime.bit0.com (bit0.com [207.246.88.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37D613C442 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from [172.27.0.11] (nat.bit0.com [207.246.88.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mindcrime.bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F51730002 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:12:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:17:03 -0500 From: Mike Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem><20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu><00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop><20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan><200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca><20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:12:56 -0000 Jaime Bozza wrote: > Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB > management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :( For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet been merged into FreeBSD (see kern/106488 which I filed 2 months ago) but you can download either the source or the binary for it from 3Ware that works just fine. The updated 3dm2 for it did make it into the Ports tree. Driver annoyances aside, my 9650SE is considerably faster than my 9500S (both have batteries, both have the drive's write cache off), especially on writes, and they are both much faster than my Adaptec 2410SA (which has no battery option and thus needed write caching disabled). Despite not being a fan of the 2410SA, I'm pretty happy with the SCSI version (2120S) which uses the exact same FreeBSD driver. Part of that is the SCSI version has a battery option so write speeds don't suck, where the SATA version doesn't. Or at least that specific model of SATA card doesn't. I'm less of a fan of the older asr-based 2110S... but the one we have still works as long as we keep it in a 32-bit non-PAE box. I've never tried Areca. I would probably like them, from the sound of things. I'm sticking with 3Ware for SATA systems for now though... but hey, personal preference and all. For my next SCSI/SAS system I may have to do some serious evaluation of what's new out there... -- Mike Andrews * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com It's not news, it's Fark.com. Carpe cavy! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 22:41:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9C316A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnzw@isp.com) Received: from mail10.mdx.safepages.com (mail10.mdx.safepages.com [216.127.133.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8153C13C467 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnzw@isp.com) Received: by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix, from userid 1012) id B329C20317; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:16:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [216.8.44.196] (216-8-44-196.dialup.ziplink.net [216.8.44.196]) by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5782E20200 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:16:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:16:23 -0500 From: John Walthall User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:41:08 -0000 Ok, now an editorial: Kernel PPP is certified crap and should be phased out. In my personal opinion the reason that it is unmaintained and slowly dissolving into a nonfunctional pool of electrolytes, is that it is functionally obsolete. User PPP provides better service, and several tangible design benefits. User PPP is very easy to use, Kernel PPP is not. I have had nothing but serious problems with Kernel PPP, In my experience whenever Kernel PPP crashes, which it does pretty much at random, and always when the network drops (a common happening for those of us blighted by Dial up.) It causes the whole system to lock up. *Forcing*me*to*physically*unplug*the*computer*to*continue*. FreeBSD is NOT Linux, and SHOULD NOT attempt to model it. FreeBSD is BSD UNIX! Isn't that the WHOLE POINT (pardon my shouting) for our existence? Isn't this why you and me bear with minor points such as this one. BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT AND PROUD OF IT! If you just start modeling Linux, we are invalidating our own existence and vindicating Linux's innumerable disparities, nay flaws. We have a fundamental design difference from Linux here. We chose this difference because we believed that it was better. Why would we go back now because the developers of a third-party interface to our systems did a clumsy job? Rather than weep in anguish at their implementation of a known faulty and legacy system. We should adjure them to implement the new and better system. This is not actually an appropriate place for this discussion. It should be directed to porten@kde.org and/or http://bugs.kde.org. Because it is a KDE problem and *not* a FreeBSD Problem. (I have already submitted it to the KDE Bugzilla) These are of course my own opinions. -- Unless instructed to do otherwise | Support public access UNIX address mail to vistua@sdf.lonestar.org | http://sdf.lonestar.org and not to johnzw@isp.com | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 22:52:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59E616A403 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857B613C4A7 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcash@ocis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A792D1A000B1A for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.sd73.bc.ca Received: from smtp.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ECMo4kkWUfZZ for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from coal (s10.sbo [192.168.0.10]) by smtp.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1761A000B0D for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:51:59 -0800 (PST) From: Freddie Cash To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:51:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> In-Reply-To: <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702081451.58355.fcash@ocis.net> Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:52:07 -0000 On Thursday 08 February 2007 02:17 pm, Mike Andrews wrote: > Jaime Bozza wrote: > > Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB > > management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :( > > For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now > support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet > been merged into FreeBSD (see kern/106488 which I filed 2 months ago) > but you can download either the source or the binary for it from 3Ware > that works just fine. The updated 3dm2 for it did make it into the > Ports tree. > > Driver annoyances aside, my 9650SE is considerably faster than my 9500S Not all that surprising, since the 9500-series use PATA-133 chipsets with SATA-PATA bridges, and the 9550+ uses a native 3G SATA chipset. Even though the 9500s are listed as 1.5G SATA parts, you'll never get better than ATA-133 speeds out of them. We didn't realise that when we ordered our first pair of Escalade 9500S 4-port cards. Thankfully, just after they arrived and before we put in the mass-order, the 9550SX was released and we've standardised on them. -- Freddie Cash fcash@ocis.net From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 23:38:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFF516A40A for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05CF13C49D for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-29-241.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.29.241]:63493 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HFIq1-0000fd-4w for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:38:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 40080 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2007 00:37:58 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 00:37:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 59781 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Feb 2007 00:37:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:37:58 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Freddie Cash Message-ID: <20070208233758.GA59681@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Freddie Cash , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> <200702081451.58355.fcash@ocis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200702081451.58355.fcash@ocis.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HFIq1-0000fd-4w. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HFIq1-0000fd-4w 802796f43cace02894cd9ac7170ac915 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:38:03 -0000 On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:51:58PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Thursday 08 February 2007 02:17 pm, Mike Andrews wrote: > > Jaime Bozza wrote: > > > Everyone has their reasons - I liked the RAID 6 feature, plus the OOB > > > management of Areca, plus my history with 3ware wasn't good. :( > > > > For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now > > support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet > > been merged into FreeBSD (see kern/106488 which I filed 2 months ago) > > but you can download either the source or the binary for it from 3Ware > > that works just fine. The updated 3dm2 for it did make it into the > > Ports tree. > > > > Driver annoyances aside, my 9650SE is considerably faster than my 9500S > > Not all that surprising, since the 9500-series use PATA-133 chipsets with > SATA-PATA bridges, and the 9550+ uses a native 3G SATA chipset. Even > though the 9500s are listed as 1.5G SATA parts, you'll never get better > than ATA-133 speeds out of them. Which is quite irrelevant since there are no SATA-disks which actually can use more speed than that. (The fastest SATA-disks currently available -- Western Digital's Raptor series has a maximum transfer rate of just under 90 MB/s. Most disks are significantly slower than that.) The 133 MB/s one can get out of ATA-133 is quite enough for that (and not all that much less than the 150MB/s that normal SATA provides. (Some SATA devices also provide a 300MB/s transfer speed, but since no disks can keep up with that it does not make all that much of a difference in practice.)) Just about all reviews that have compared both controllers and disks with and without SATA-PATA bridges have come to the conclusion that those bridges do not cause any measurable drop in performance over their native-SATA counterparts. The only real drawback with using SATA-PATA bridges is that you cannot get support for the optional SATA features like NCQ. (But not all native-SATA solutions support those features either.) > > We didn't realise that when we ordered our first pair of Escalade 9500S > 4-port cards. Thankfully, just after they arrived and before we put in > the mass-order, the 9550SX was released and we've standardised on them. The 9550SX should be a bit faster than the 9500S and the 9650SE faster still, but that is for other reasons. (Faster processor for handling the parity calculations for RAID-5, faster memory on the card, being able to do more operations in parallell, etc.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 23:39:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082C516A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geoffwa@cs.rmit.edu.au) Received: from its-mu-mail2.its.rmit.edu.au (its-mu-mail2.its.rmit.edu.au [131.170.2.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6D913C4A8 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geoffwa@cs.rmit.edu.au) Received: from wombat.cs.rmit.edu.au (wombat.cs.rmit.edu.au [131.170.24.41]) by its-mu-mail2.its.rmit.edu.au (8.13.7/8.13.7/mail2) with ESMTP id l18NdNrE011573 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:39:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (root@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au [131.170.24.40]) by wombat.cs.rmit.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10/cshub) with ESMTP id l18NdN2Y023961 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:39:23 +1100 (EST) Received: from goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (geoffwa@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4/csnode) with ESMTP id l18NdN3A025787 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:39:23 +1100 (EST) Received: (from geoffwa@localhost) by goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id l18NdI1O025771 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:39:18 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:39:18 +1100 From: Geoffrey Giesemann To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070208233918.GA24428@cs.rmit.edu.au> References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> <20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:39:27 -0000 On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:34:57PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: > -They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical" > part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, what > happens to your card? Does it melt or just start acting weird? If the > engineers didn't consider that, what other failure modes did their limited > creativity miss? :) > The fan does have a tachometer which you can monitor from the card BIOS or using the cli binary. You can also disable the tachometer so you can swap the heatsink+fan for the larger heatsink (w/o fan) that comes in the box. You can find all of this out by *gasp* reading the manual. --Geoff From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 23:51:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B4F16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mail.thinkburst.com (mail.thinkburst.com [66.210.222.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A5813C4A5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [66.210.222.36]) by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02161CC6C; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:51:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from thinkburst.com (bacchus.thinkburst.com [10.1.1.25]) by mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FC417040; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:51:22 -0600 (CST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:51:21 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? Thread-Index: AcdLzlxtVojY4OqrQ0iLRsKMKpcs6gACrtOQ References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem><20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu><00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop><20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan><200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca><20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> <45CBA15F.4090408@bit0.com> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: "Mike Andrews" , Cc: Subject: RE: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:51:24 -0000 > For what it's worth, 3Ware's latest PCI-E cards (9650 series) now > support RAID 6. The updated twa driver that supports them hasn't yet > been merged into FreeBSD (see kern/106488 which I filed 2 months ago) > but you can download either the source or the binary for it from 3Ware > that works just fine. The updated 3dm2 for it did make it into the > Ports tree. I noticed that when I was making my reply from earlier. At some point in time I may test out the newer (twa-based) cards. It seems that 3ware is actually interested in supporting those. They never managed to get the twe driver out of what they called "beta", so that's where my experience ended. Interesting thing - When I installed FreeBSD on the new system (pre-6.2 version discs) it didn't see the new Areca card. I started to get worried but quickly found out that the driver had been updated shortly before 6.2 was released. Quick update and all was well. So the kernel driver *is* being updated. > Driver annoyances aside, my 9650SE is considerably faster than my 9500S > (both have batteries, both have the drive's write cache off), especially > on writes, and they are both much faster than my Adaptec 2410SA (which > has no battery option and thus needed write caching disabled). I haven't tested the current system in speeds, but it's noticeably faster than my other (1160 PCI-X) system. Possibly due to the fact that I was using WD4000YR drives in the first which do not support the updated speeds of SATA2. The current system does and the card detects it. The newer card also has an updated processor - Intel IOP341 instead of an IOP33x series processor which I would guess makes a big difference. At least according to synthetic benchmarks going around the net. :) > I've never tried Areca. I would probably like them, from the sound of > things. I'm sticking with 3Ware for SATA systems for now though... but > hey, personal preference and all. For my next SCSI/SAS system I may > have to do some serious evaluation of what's new out there... Regardless of what you choose, there are a few decent options for FreeBSD now. Shows that people out there are actually starting to care about FreeBSD for some of these controllers. Unfortunately, I didn't have the same solid results with the mirroring (RAID1) support for onboard SATA (Supermicro X7DVL-E). I mirrored two SATA2 drives (OS) and tried pulling one drive. Placing it back in didn't automatically start a rebuild, but I could force it. Pulling it, restarting, and then removing the drive from the RAID1 array (via the BIOS) would then cause FreeBSD to panic at boot (or drive insertion) every time. I don't know if it was the fact that there was still metadata on the drive so the ataraid driver thought something differently, but it bothered me a little. I had to disable ATA RAID in the BIOS completely (and remove the ataraid device from the kernel) to get FreeBSD to boot or allow the drive back into the system at all. Since the motherboard RAID is just software RAID, I switched over to gmirror but kept AHCI on so I'd still have hotplug support. After that I wasn't able to kill the system. Jaime Bozza Qlinks Media Group From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 23:55:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C73316A406 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30F513C4B5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 41729 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2007 23:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 23:55:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Geoffrey Giesemann In-Reply-To: <20070208233918.GA24428@cs.rmit.edu.au> Message-ID: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <200702081902.l18J24Dm055927@lava.sentex.ca> <20070208195410.GA38036@icarus.home.lan> <20070208233918.GA24428@cs.rmit.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:55:25 -0000 On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Geoffrey Giesemann wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:34:57PM -0500, Charles Sprickman wrote: >> -They added a moving part (2-wire fan, no tach) to a "mission-critical" >> part. That seems real stupid. After the bearings die in 2-3 years, what >> happens to your card? Does it melt or just start acting weird? If the >> engineers didn't consider that, what other failure modes did their limited >> creativity miss? :) >> > > The fan does have a tachometer which you can monitor from the card BIOS > or using the cli binary. > > You can also disable the tachometer so you can swap the heatsink+fan for > the larger heatsink (w/o fan) that comes in the box. These were a few of the things that their pre-sales folks were not able to tell me... > You can find all of this out by *gasp* reading the manual. I did flip through it fairly quickly, but I'm not even sure that these features were available at the time I compared the Areca to the 3Ware. The best info I could find at the time about the fan was looking at the picture on their website - it showed a small heatsink+fan with two wires (no tach). I'm certainly not trying to push people away from the Areca cards - the more FreeBSD people out there using these the better. Next time we may buy some Arecas since I now am finding some positive feedback from the FreeBSD community. Charles > --Geoff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 01:49:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E72316A400; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 01:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5291813C478; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 01:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.2.119] (hornet.kitchenlab.org [64.142.31.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l191ngX7023368 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:49:43 -0800 Message-ID: <45CBD32E.40005@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:49:34 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitry Andric References: <20070120162936.GA18104@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> <20070121.020741.59649277.hrs@allbsd.org> <45B251A5.4000209@freebsd.org> <45B3CA56.4040106@andric.com> <45B421D4.2050008@freebsd.org> <45B48F0C.9090809@andric.com> <45B63C3E.9010808@freebsd.org> <45B676A2.5090009@andric.com> In-Reply-To: <45B676A2.5090009@andric.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF6089CF940E21F2E6AA5806B" Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jhay@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 over gif(4) broken in 6.2-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:49:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF6089CF940E21F2E6AA5806B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Dimitry Andric wrote: > Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I mean that it may be that between -RELEASE and -STABLE, other things > have changed, e.g. network rc scripts, /sbin/route itself, etc, which > may also influence this behaviour. I'm sure more than only nd6.c > changed. :) The testing I did doesn't require any of that stuff, only a kernel, a shell, and ifconfig(8). I'm not aware of anything relevant. (As one of the RE types, I do follow commit mails pretty closely, especially during and just after a release cycle.) > However, for me, with the whole system at -STABLE (as of Jan 11), I > verified the following results again just now: >=20 > nd6.c rev state > --------- ----- > 1.48.2.12 works > 1.48.2.13 works > 1.48.2.14 works > 1.48.2.15 works > 1.48.2.16 doesn't work I've convinced myself that this problem needs to be tested in isolation (i.e. you have complete control over both ends of the tunnel) because incoming packets over the tunnel cause the host route to get added automatically if it wasn't there already. After reading the code and discussing this with a couple folks, I've managed to convince myself that 1.48.2.14 and 1.48.2.15 (and their analogues on HEAD) need to go away. I've committed diffs that back these out, and they solve the problem for me in my testing (which I've done with two VMs in isolation). The applicable revisions for nd6.c are 1.74 (HEAD) and 1.48.2.18 (RELENG_6). Updating up to (or beyond) these revisions should clear up the problem. Testing reports from people who were having problems would be appreciated= =2E Bruce. --------------enigF6089CF940E21F2E6AA5806B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFy9My2MoxcVugUsMRAp5NAKC7+ik0mksLdVyNSUPaB/vlRuYVjgCg5wWD 4bgeibxwy1LGUijmNSAF4zo= =4R4l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF6089CF940E21F2E6AA5806B-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 04:09:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC11516A401 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (mail-in-06.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368B713C4AC for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.17]) by mail-in-06.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4462C9153; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (mail-in-05.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.45]) by mail-in-01-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D722DAA8D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-179-097.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.179.97]) by mail-in-05.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB92C1C330B; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l18NAQql075483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l18NAQcM007475; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l18NAQ0A007474; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 00:10:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> In-Reply-To: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702090010.25836.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:09:51 -0000 --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 8. February 2007 23:16, John Walthall wrote: > Ok, now an editorial: I should not really dignify this rant by replying to it, but: > We have a fundamental design difference from Linux here. We chose this > difference because we believed that it was better. Why would we go back > now because the developers of a third-party interface to our systems did > a clumsy job? KPPP is not an interface to 'our' systems. It's an interface to *pppd*, whi= ch=20 happens to be available for a wide range of Unices and Unix-like systems. > We should adjure them to implement the=20 > new and better system. This is not actually an appropriate place for > this discussion. It should be directed to porten@kde.org and/or > http://bugs.kde.org. Because it is a KDE problem and *not* a FreeBSD > Problem. (I have already submitted it to the KDE Bugzilla) A kernel panic/freeze triggered by a badly maintained driver is most certai= nly=20 not any application's problem. You should probably close that bug yourself. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFy63hXhc68WspdLARAvSHAJ9tgnKWQUEdCosROlnjhm5YjaWxMQCfV37S dQQVt+uRj8C68Zrb6ORTqp8= =6DXe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1314561.VsPVCC2W5f-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 04:55:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8109E16A400; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com (relay02.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BD713C461; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 04:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from [212.82.216.227] (helo=fw.zoral.com.ua) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HFNnB-000LtU-Ki; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 06:55:34 +0200 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by fw.zoral.com.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l194sggK045304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:54:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l194sgsK026584; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:54:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l194sgVr026583; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:54:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:54:42 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: Frode Nordahl Message-ID: <20070209045442.GK3304@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <456950AF.3090308@sh.cvut.cz> <20061127092146.GA69556@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <84F23118-A6C3-44F8-B3FD-AE21C50D0EF9@nordahl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <84F23118-A6C3-44F8-B3FD-AE21C50D0EF9@nordahl.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.7, clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on fw.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on fw.zoral.com.ua X-Scanner-Signature: ca614d1e091d53a46adb2ef7a730c6a6 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: kostikbel@gmail.com X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 753 [Feb 08 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: not dialup} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Method: Local Lists X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, V??clav Haisman , tegge@freebsd.org, bde@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kqueue LOR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:55:36 -0000 --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:49:23PM +0100, Frode Nordahl wrote: > On 27. nov. 2006, at 10.21, Kostik Belousov wrote: >=20 > >On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 09:30:39AM +0100, V??clav Haisman wrote: > >>Hi, > >>the attached lor.txt contains LOR I got this yesterday. It is =20 > >>FreeBSD 6.1 > >>with relatively recent kernel, from last week or so. > >> > >>-- > >>VH > > > >>+lock order reversal: > >>+ 1st 0xc537f300 kqueue (kqueue) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c:=20 > >>1547 > >>+ 2nd 0xc45c22dc struct mount mtx (struct mount mtx) @ /usr/src/=20 > >>sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:138 > >>+KDB: stack backtrace: > >>+kdb_backtrace(c07f9879,c45c22dc,c07fd31c,c07fd31c,c080c7b2,...) =20 > >>at kdb_backtrace+0x2f > >>+witness_checkorder(c45c22dc,9,c080c7b2,8a,c07fc6bd,...) at =20 > >>witness_checkorder+0x5fe > >>+_mtx_lock_flags(c45c22dc,0,c080c7b2,8a,e790ba20,...) at =20 > >>_mtx_lock_flags+0x32 > >>+ufs_itimes(c47a0dd0,c47a0e90,e790ba78,c060e1cc,c47a0dd0,...) at =20 > >>ufs_itimes+0x6c > >>+ufs_getattr(e790ba54,e790baec,c0622af6,c0896f40,e790ba54,...) at =20 > >>ufs_getattr+0x20 > >>+VOP_GETATTR_APV(c0896f40,e790ba54,c08a5760,c47a0dd0,e790ba74,...) =20 > >>at VOP_GETATTR_APV+0x3a > >>+filt_vfsread(c4cf261c,6,c07f445e,60b,0,...) at filt_vfsread+0x75 > >>+knote(c4f57114,6,1,1f30c2af,1f30c2af,...) at knote+0x75 > >>+VOP_WRITE_APV(c0896f40,e790bbec,c47a0dd0,227,e790bcb4,...) at =20 > >>VOP_WRITE_APV+0x148 > >>+vn_write(c45d5120,e790bcb4,c5802a00,0,c4b73a80,...) at vn_write=20 > >>+0x201 > >>+dofilewrite(c4b73a80,1b,c45d5120,e790bcb4,ffffffff,...) at =20 > >>dofilewrite+0x84 > >>+kern_writev(c4b73a80,1b,e790bcb4,8220c71,0,...) at kern_writev+0x65 > >>+write(c4b73a80,e790bd04,c,c07d899c,3,...) at write+0x4f > >>+syscall(3b,3b,bfbf003b,0,bfbfeae4,...) at syscall+0x295 > >>+Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f > >>+--- syscall (4, FreeBSD ELF32, write), eip =3D 0x2831d727, esp =3D =20 > >>0xbfbfea1c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfea48 --- > > > >Thank you for the report. The LOR is caused by my commit into > >sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c, rev. 1.280. >=20 > While debugging a problem I have with 6.2-RELEASE on one of my =20 > servers I saw this LOR. After being up for a short while the server =20 > freezes, not responding to serial console, network og keyboard. I =20 > can't even get to DDB by sending BREAK on the serial console. >=20 > Enabling INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN =20 > did not give more information about the freeze other than printing =20 > the LOR now and then. The useful way to report deadlock is described in developer handbook, kernel debug chapter, deadlock debugging. If the freeze caused by this LOR, then supplying me with information requested in that chapter could be helpful (both to you and me). --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFy/6RC3+MBN1Mb4gRAprzAKDcJDaFRi0Nphz0y5ZMOsGcTw812QCdESxa IAgs24MYqDXmhR7gQKOb7fY= =Lzz0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8kI7hWEHMS8Z+7/0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 08:13:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF73D16A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3153F13C491 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l198DYeS001377; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l198DX79001376; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Message-ID: <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:13:36 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-Feb-08 17:16:23 -0500, John Walthall wrote: >functionally obsolete. User PPP provides better service, and several >tangible design benefits. User PPP is very easy to use, Kernel PPP is not. Actually, kernel PPP has one significant (at least theoretical) advantage over user ppp: Network data is not pushed through the kernel/userland interface an additional two times. This is irrelevant for low-speed modem interfaces but could be significant for PPPoE on high-speed broadband. Keep in mind that a firewall host is likely to be a slow box - either a pensioned-off desktop or a mini-ITX style system. >FreeBSD is NOT Linux, and SHOULD NOT attempt to model it. FreeBSD is BSD >UNIX! Isn't that the WHOLE POINT (pardon my shouting) for our existence? I'm not sure I see where Linux comes into this. Looking back into history, it seems that both ppp(4) and ppp(8) arrived fairly close together. It appears that ppp(4) was a port of the portable ppp-2.2 code - the same code as used in SunOS AFAIR. --=20 Peter Jeremy --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFzC0t/opHv/APuIcRAo4nAJ45atKFIw/isAEn0cuSHhiu3+pYQgCdF7kO sznULuEfPqjgQ9Wn8lBUg7Q= =mviB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 10:06:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E1316A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48D3E13C428 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 28387 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2007 13:06:33 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 13:06:33 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 174191, updated: 8.02.2007] Message-ID: <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:06:27 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:06:39 -0000 hi! I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original message due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL controllers and i have not seen a single relevant reply about them. This is interesting. Nobody uses Intel controllers on FreeBSD or they just suck that much? -- Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 12:31:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF7016A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aperum=freebsd-stable=freebsd.org=bdvvpieh@serverbitch.de) Received: from serverbitch.de (serverbitch.de [212.227.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4413513C491 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aperum=freebsd-stable=freebsd.org=bdvvpieh@serverbitch.de) Received: from aperum by serverbitch.de with local (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1HFUKp-00033m-U1 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:54:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:54:35 +0100 From: Sascha Holzleiter To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070209115435.GA11692@serverbitch.de> References: <86C10E7655AA8C2D8C433AAC@[10.0.0.90]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: Sascha Holzleiter Subject: Re: fetch hangs on AMD64 RELENG_6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:31:38 -0000 On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:56:09PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Jul 5, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >Hmm. Seems we close the window unexpectedly and the remote side > >doesn't > >retransmit when we open it. > > Yes, interesting that. :-) > > Normally the stack only sets the window size to 0 in the event of > severe congestion, it's used to tell the other side to stop sending > traffic for an interval, although the other side should retry with > zero-data-length ACK-only packets after a delay, or once your side > sends a packet opening the window. > > >FreeBSD's acks stop once the window is fully > >open... aren't the acks supposed to retried longer? If not, shouldn't > >fetch eventually see a socket close event instead of hanging forever? > > RFC-793 says: > > "The sending TCP must be prepared to accept from the user and send at > least one octet of new data even if the send window is zero. The > sending TCP must regularly retransmit to the receiving TCP even when > the window is zero. Two minutes is recommended for the > retransmission > interval when the window is zero. This retransmission is > essential to > guarantee that when either TCP has a zero window the re-opening of > the > window will be reliably reported to the other. > > When the receiving TCP has a zero window and a segment arrives it > must > still send an acknowledgment showing its next expected sequence > number > and current window (zero)." > > The fact that you aren't seeing any ACK's back from this remote > server suggests that perhaps a stateful firewall is involved which is > getting confused and/or dropping the state entry once it sees the > zero-window-size packet from your machine. > > There may be something wrong on the FreeBSD side as well, of course-- > the fact that it grows the window by sending nearly twenty or more > ACK packets in the span of about one millisecond without waiting for > any ACKs from the other side is pretty wacky in it's own right. Hi, has there been any solution to this problem. I'm seeing this with RELENG_6_2 on an Intel Core2Duo system whilst fetching certain source files for ports, e.g. elinks. Fetch just hangs after the first few kbytes in sbwait state. -- Sascha From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 13:24:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7AE16A403 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fredrik.widlund@qbrick.com) Received: from mail.qbrick.com (mail.qbrick.com [62.13.40.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B9713C471 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fredrik.widlund@qbrick.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.qbrick.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652AF51978; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:03:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.qbrick.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail0.p0.w0.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 75643-03-7; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:03:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.43.0.2] (fkwd0.p0.u3.local [10.43.0.2]) by mail.qbrick.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A72751974; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:03:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45CC71DB.9060607@qbrick.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:06:35 +0100 From: Fredrik Widlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fredrik Widlund References: <1162852746.32694.23.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> <454FD024.5060205@samsco.org> <454FE82F.8090500@samsco.org> <4550524A.2060208@qbrick.com> In-Reply-To: <4550524A.2060208@qbrick.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at qbrick.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Olivier Mueller Subject: Re: Still have BCE driver issues (dell pe 1950) and NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:24:11 -0000 Hi, This is still an issue, we are experiencing hangs and loss of connectivity on 6.2-release Dell pe1950 machines without debug.mpsafenet=0. They last about a minute then the machines come alive again. Needless to say this is impossible to tolerate in a production environment. Kind regards, Fredrik Widlund Fredrik Widlund wrote: > Hi, > > Will a fix/this fix be part of the 6.2 Release? We will be relying > heavily on fbsd6.2 and pe1950 and are worried about the BCE stability? > > Kind regards, > Fredrik Widlund > > Scott Long wrote: > >> Olivier Mueller wrote: >> >>> Le 7 nov. 06 à 01:15, Scott Long a écrit : >>> >>> >>>> Olivier Mueller wrote: >>>> >>>>> NFS Server: dell poweredge 1950, with the 1.2.2.6 version of if_bce.c: >>>>> bce0: mem >>>>> - Start a directory listing on it: immediate (network) crash of >>>>> the NFS >>>>> server. (reproduced 3 times) >>>>> >>>> Do the following, then retry your test: >>>> ifconfig bce0 -txcsum >>>> >>> Oh, this way it looks much better, thanks. Directory listing was fine, >>> and copying files during 2-3 minutes over NFS worked as well. More >>> tests will follow tomorrow. >>> >>> Next step? :-) Should I put that command somewhere in my init >>> scripts, or even directly in rc.conf, or wait for a new if_bce0.c >>> version? I am available for any other PE1950-related tests if this >>> may help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Olivier >>> >> Change /sys/dev/bce/if_bcereg.h so that BCE_IF_HWASSIST is defined to 0. >> Then recompile. >> >> Scott >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 13:37:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954F416A400 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from mx1.caravan.ru (mx1.caravan.ru [217.23.130.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B5F13C474 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from [217.23.131.8] (helo=[10.102.0.65]) by mx1.caravan.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HFVVC-000DPf-8c for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:09:22 +0300 Message-ID: <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:10:44 +0300 From: Alexander Sabourenkov User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:37:01 -0000 Artem Kuchin wrote: > hi! > > I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting > reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original message > due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL controllers and > i have not seen a single relevant reply about them. > This is interesting. Nobody uses Intel controllers on FreeBSD or > they just suck that much? If you have enough SATA ports and no need for fancy RAID levels, then my advice is to use gmirror. Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and monitoring+control tools. -- ./lxnt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 14:06:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DDC16A401 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mail.thinkburst.com (mail.thinkburst.com [66.210.222.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D8D13C4B4 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [66.210.222.36]) by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADC51CC59 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:06:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from thinkburst.com (bacchus.thinkburst.com [10.1.1.25]) by mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD5917040 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:06:32 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-cr-puzzleid: {6DEE7319-46DE-47B0-8DD9-79A8E0773AAC} X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:06:25 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AO+U A+Pk BqN8 Brn0 E1xc FlpE FyYi F7yv GTwT GZ2E H2Rl IrSq JHy6 JncN JzrV KnN3; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHMAdABhAGIAbABlAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {6DEE7319-46DE-47B0-8DD9-79A8E0773AAC}; agBiAG8AegB6AGEAQABxAGwAaQBuAGsAcwBtAGUAZABpAGEALgBjAG8AbQA=; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:06:25 GMT; UgBFADoAIABXAGgAYQB0ACAAaQBzACAAYQAgAGcAbwBvAGQAIABjAGgAbwBpAGMAZQAgAG8AZgAgAHMAYQB0AGEALQBpAGkAIAByAGEAaQBkACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAGYAbwByACAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAA/AA== Thread-Topic: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? Thread-Index: AcdMT4cp06ZB402xQDO51Z2ia77lcwAArIVQ References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: Subject: RE: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:06:33 -0000 PiBIYXJkd2FyZSBSQUlEMSBidXlzIHlvdSBub3RoaW5nIGluIHBlcmZvbWFuY2UgYW5kIHJlbGlh YmlsaXR5DQo+IGZvciBhIHByb2xvbmdlZCBoZWFkYWNoZSB3aXRoIGRyaXZlcnMsIGJpb3MgaW5z YW5pdHkgYW5kDQo+IG1vbml0b3JpbmcrY29udHJvbCB0b29scy4NCg0KDQpJbnRlbCBkb2VzIHNl ZW0gdG8gaGF2ZSBhIGZldyBoYXJkd2FyZS1iYXNlZCBSQUlEIGNvbnRyb2xsZXJzIGhlcmU6DQpo dHRwOi8vd3d3LmludGVsLmNvbS9wcm9kdWN0cy9zZXJ2ZXIvcmFpZC8NCg0KSSBkb24ndCBzZWUg YW55IGRyaXZlciBvciBzdXBwb3J0IGZvciB0aGVtIGluIEZyZWVCU0QgdGhvdWdoLg0KDQoNCkph aW1lIEJvenphDQpRbGlua3MgTWVkaWEgR3JvdXANCg0K From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 14:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04F16A49A; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsk@gddsn.org.cn) Received: from gddsn.org.cn (gddsn.org.cn [218.19.164.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483A713C4B5; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsk@gddsn.org.cn) Received: from ns.gddsn.org.cn (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gddsn.org.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BFA38CB96; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:29:21 +0800 (CST) Received: (from www@localhost) by ns.gddsn.org.cn (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id l19ETJU2045312; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:29:19 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from wsk@gddsn.org.cn) X-Authentication-Warning: ns.gddsn.org.cn: www set sender to wsk@gddsn.org.cn using -f Received: from 210.72.96.223 ([210.72.96.223]) by gddsn.org.cn (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:29:19 +0800 Message-ID: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:29:19 +0800 From: wsk@gddsn.org.cn To: current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 / FreeBSD-4.10 X-Originating-IP: 210.72.96.223 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:53:31 -0000 6.2R cd boot failed with follow error,and the MegaRAID fw version is FW_1L33 thanks with any info BTX loader 1.00 BTX version 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS 639kB/3668928kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (root at root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu, Fri Jan 12 06:40:38 UTC 2007) int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030086 eip=0000c3d4 eax=00008058 ebx=00002000 ecx=00000007 edx=0000fffa esi=0000f69b edi=00040170 epb=000003d8 esp=00000358 cs=f000 ds=0040 es=5d18 fs=9fc0 gs=f000 ss=9e17 cs:eip=ec 50 e4 61 58 50 e4 61-58 ee 5a c3 01 00 e4 c3 12 00 00 41 d0 0c 02 08-80 00 03 00 79 00 79 00 00 ss:esp=77 01 03 2c a1 00 08 2c-fa 02 00 e0 00 00 c0 9f 00 00 4e 80 f3 ee 00 f0-03 24 00 e0 06 02 00 80 BTX halted ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 15:10:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8D116A4DF for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from mx1.caravan.ru (mx1.caravan.ru [217.23.130.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A948313C4B3 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from [217.23.131.8] (helo=[10.102.0.65]) by mx1.caravan.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HFXOT-000NTw-W7 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:10:34 +0300 Message-ID: <45CC8F3C.2070808@lxnt.info> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:11:56 +0300 From: Alexander Sabourenkov User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:10:40 -0000 Jaime Bozza wrote: >> Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability >> for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and >> monitoring+control tools. > > > Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here: > http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/ > > I don't see any driver or support for them in FreeBSD though. > Those are rebranded LSI Megaraid units, amr(4). They have mostly-unusable GUI bios (you actually have to have a mouse plugged in to do anything with it), no up-to-date FreeBSD control utility, though some reverse-engineering work resulted in a simple monitoring utility. They work ok (SCSI ones at least), but configuration and maintenance leave much to be desired. -- ./lxnt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 15:16:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C6B16A407 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2805E13C471 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 42769 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2007 18:15:59 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 18:15:59 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 175110, updated: 9.02.2007] Message-ID: <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:15:53 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:16:01 -0000 Alexander Sabourenkov wrote: > Artem Kuchin wrote: >> hi! >> >> I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting >> reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original >> message due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL >> controllers and i have not seen a single relevant reply about them. >> This is interesting. Nobody uses Intel controllers on FreeBSD or >> they just suck that much? > > If you have enough SATA ports and no need for fancy RAID levels, > then my advice is to use gmirror. > > Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability > for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and > monitoring+control tools. Hm... two points here. I, somehow, do not really believe that software raid (gmirror for example) is as reliable as hardware. I, deeply inside, believe that i might screw things very badly under some heavy load and bad timing conditions. Can't explain it. it is religious i guess, but i can be very wrong about this. However, two perfomance point: Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact. Under hardware RAID OS issue sonly one command to write and no checking command, since raid controller handles this async. So, software OS raid must be slower than controller based raid anyway. Am i right here? Any benchmark data on this? As for reliability of gmirror. I just need to know how it works to see for myself that if power turned off in some racing condition gmirror will know that disk are out of sync. If it is done than gmirror must check sync of disks every read, and that mean two command for reading too, which must slow down things. Is it true? -- Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 15:16:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B2516A408 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23CD313C46B for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: (qmail 42768 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2007 18:15:59 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO Artem) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 18:15:59 +0300 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.33, engine: 4.33.5.10110, virus records: 175110, updated: 9.02.2007] Message-ID: <01e501c74c5d$31a3db00$0c00a8c0@Artem> From: "Artem Kuchin" To: References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem><45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:15:48 +0300 Organization: IT Legion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:16:02 -0000 Jaime Bozza wrote: >>> Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability >>> for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and >>> monitoring+control tools. >> >> >> Intel does seem to have a few hardware-based RAID controllers here: >> http://www.intel.com/products/server/raid/ >> >> I don't see any driver or support for them in FreeBSD though. SRCS16 is supported. I wrote the original post exactly about it. And it sucks, 30MB/s read perfomance. Way too slow. -- Artem From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 15:49:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C2316A400 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: from bart.milos.co.za (bart.milos.co.za [196.38.18.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEDB13C47E for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: (qmail 58949 invoked by uid 89); 9 Feb 2007 15:45:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO claylaptop) (clay@milos.za.net@192.168.3.254) by bart.milos.co.za with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2007 15:45:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00b701c74c61$d7d24990$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> From: "Clayton Milos" To: "Artem Kuchin" References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem><45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:49:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:49:32 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Artem Kuchin" To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? > Alexander Sabourenkov wrote: >> Artem Kuchin wrote: >>> hi! >>> >>> I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many interesting >>> reply during these two days. However, as i said in the original >>> message due to certification issues i am pretty limited to INTEL >>> controllers and i have not seen a single relevant reply about them. >>> This is interesting. Nobody uses Intel controllers on FreeBSD or >>> they just suck that much? >> >> If you have enough SATA ports and no need for fancy RAID levels, >> then my advice is to use gmirror. >> >> Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability >> for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and >> monitoring+control tools. > > Hm... two points here. I, somehow, do not really believe that > software raid (gmirror for example) is as reliable as hardware. > I, deeply inside, believe that i might screw things very badly under some > heavy load and bad timing conditions. Can't explain it. it is religious i > guess, > but i can be very wrong about this. > > However, two perfomance point: > Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some > commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact. > Under hardware RAID OS issue sonly one command to write and no > checking command, since raid controller handles this async. > > So, software OS raid must be slower than controller based raid anyway. > > Am i right here? Any benchmark data on this? > > As for reliability of gmirror. I just need to know how it works to see > for myself that if power turned off in some racing condition gmirror will > know that > disk are out of sync. If it is done than gmirror must check sync of disks > every read, and > that mean two command for reading too, which must slow down things. > Is it true? > > -- > Artem I set up 3 RedHat Enterprise servers in a cluster for a customer 2-3 years ago. Dual P4-XEON 3.4GHz with 16G of ram each. Really lovely servers. Intel server motherboards with 2 x15k RPM SCSI drives as a mirror for the OS and fibrechannel external storage for Oracle 10i. The SCSI RAID on the motherboard was horrifically slow. I'm talking around 5MB/s hardware raid for 15k RPM SCSI drives. Turns out it was a known bug on the Intel motherboards with no workaround or fix so I set the boxes up with Linux software raid. The performance was excellent and they are still running perfectly today. I think the SCSI controller was Symbios or something like that. Ever since then I have not trusted Intel and RAID in the same sentence. I was really upset that they were not interested in fixing the issue. I even emailed Intel to ask them about it and they said there was not much likelihood of a fix. Call me biased but that's just what my experience has taught me. Btw the Areca cards have Intel RISC CPU's on them and they are lightning fast. -Clay From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 16:24:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FD316A400 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from kellthuzad.dmz.nerim.net (smtp-dmz-235-friday.dmz.nerim.net [195.5.254.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500C013C4A8 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from mallaury.nerim.net (smtp-105-friday.noc.nerim.net [62.4.17.105]) by kellthuzad.dmz.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F32248C7 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C59A4F451; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF07C17B; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oeheG+qUPUtf; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 931A5C13A; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:11 +0100 (CET) To: Peter Jeremy From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> (Peter Jeremy's message of "Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +1100") References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 i386 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:24:11 +0100 Message-ID: <86veib1eqc.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:24:54 -0000 Peter Jeremy writes: Hi, > Actually, kernel PPP has one significant (at least theoretical) > advantage over user ppp: Network data is not pushed through the > kernel/userland interface an additional two times. This is irrelevant > for low-speed modem interfaces but could be significant for PPPoE on > high-speed broadband. Right, and an up to date pppd in base would be imho really nice to have. Kernel pppoe as in Net/Open would be an alternative to net/mpd. (No, I'm not volunteering to port NetBSD's kernel ppp to FreeBSD as my C & kernel programming skills are way under required level) > Keep in mind that a firewall host is likely to be a slow box - either > a pensioned-off desktop or a mini-ITX style system. That sometimes run other apps... -- Et manque de bol, ça accélère énormément cette nouvelle version (à croire que l'ancienne était codée en 68k et utilisait ApplScript). -+- SC in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Jobs, stakhanoviste ? Nooon ! -+- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 16:33:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B7C16A406 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from mx1.caravan.ru (mx1.caravan.ru [217.23.130.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A796B13C494 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from screwdriver@lxnt.info) Received: from [217.23.131.8] (helo=[10.102.0.65]) by mx1.caravan.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HFYga-0003oL-M8 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:33:20 +0300 Message-ID: <45CCA2A3.8050509@lxnt.info> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:34:43 +0300 From: Alexander Sabourenkov User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:33:33 -0000 > Hm... two points here. I, somehow, do not really believe that > software raid (gmirror for example) is as reliable as hardware. > I, deeply inside, believe that i might screw things very badly under some > heavy load and bad timing conditions. Can't explain it. it is religious > i guess, > but i can be very wrong about this. Hardware RAID is actually a software RAID running on a processor mounted on the card. Just like the software RAID it can and actually did screw up badly under some heavy load and bad timing conditions. > However, two perfomance point: > Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some > commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact. > Under hardware RAID OS issue sonly one command to write and no > checking command, since raid controller handles this async. > > So, software OS raid must be slower than controller based raid anyway. Hardware RAID also needs to send two commands to the disks, which they will carry out no faster than if they were attached to a plain SATA controller. When disks' bandwidth is saturated, HW raid stalls just as much as SW one. > Am i right here? Any benchmark data on this? Benchmark data suggests that the difference is below measurement error margin. > As for reliability of gmirror. I just need to know how it works to see > for myself that if power turned off in some racing condition gmirror > will know that > disk are out of sync. If it is done than gmirror must check sync of > disks every read, and > that mean two command for reading too, which must slow down things. > Is it true? > If you need to be absolutely sure what happens under some particular curcuimstances, I suggest you read the code. For the common failure modes: hard read errors, signal cables going loose, tripping power cords, my experience shows that gmirror works reliably enough: no data lost. -- ./lxnt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 16:54:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA4416A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mail.thinkburst.com (mail.thinkburst.com [66.210.222.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A511D13C4A5 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbozza@qlinksmedia.com) Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (gateway.thinkburstmedia.com [66.210.222.36]) by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1549A1CC3D for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:54:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from thinkburst.com (bacchus.thinkburst.com [10.1.1.25]) by mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038D917040 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:54:25 -0600 (CST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:54:24 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45CC8F3C.2070808@lxnt.info> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? Thread-Index: AcdMXTam/4JoFxU5TDaVl5zfb2cSuQADQEZQ References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <20070208094620.GA9599@rink.nu> <00a701c74b6e$7c3e4550$fe03a8c0@claylaptop> <20070208165224.GA35610@icarus.home.lan> <004401c74c31$f8159160$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> <45CC8F3C.2070808@lxnt.info> From: "Jaime Bozza" To: Subject: RE: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:54:25 -0000 PiA+IEludGVsIGRvZXMgc2VlbSB0byBoYXZlIGEgZmV3IGhhcmR3YXJlLWJhc2VkIFJBSUQgY29u dHJvbGxlcnMgaGVyZToNCj4gPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LmludGVsLmNvbS9wcm9kdWN0cy9zZXJ2ZXIv cmFpZC8NCj4gPg0KPiA+IEkgZG9uJ3Qgc2VlIGFueSBkcml2ZXIgb3Igc3VwcG9ydCBmb3IgdGhl bSBpbiBGcmVlQlNEIHRob3VnaC4NCj4gPg0KPiANCj4gVGhvc2UgYXJlIHJlYnJhbmRlZCBMU0kg TWVnYXJhaWQgdW5pdHMsICBhbXIoNCkuDQoNCkludGVyZXN0aW5nIC0gU29tZW9uZSBlbHNlIG1l bnRpb25lZCB0aGUgc2FtZSB0aGluZy4gIFRoZSBhbXIoNCkgbWFucGFnZSBkb2Vzbid0IHNlZW0g dG8gYmUgdXBkYXRlZCB0byBtZW50aW9uIHRoZSBsYXRlc3QgY2FyZHMgdGhvdWdoLiAgSSBkaWQg bm90aWNlIHRoZSBkcml2ZXIgaGFzbid0IGJlZW4gcmVhbGx5IHVwZGF0ZWQgaW4gYSB3aGlsZSBl aXRoZXIuICBXb3VsZG4ndCB0aGlzIGNhdXNlIGEgcHJvYmxlbSB3aXRoIGlkZW50aWZ5aW5nIHRo ZSBuZXdlciBjYXJkcz8NCg0KDQpKYWltZSBCb3p6YQ0KUWxpbmtzIE1lZGlhIEdyb3VwDQogDQo= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 16:56:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E51816A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D335F13C4B6 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47811A9BE4; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:29:07 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: nJTN02DpGTFObvheS4bBWueQvw0Nqm2hzuXYRgnrvO6R 1171038547 Received: from [192.168.123.18] (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9948E1CA2C; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:29:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:29:05 +0000 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wsk@gddsn.org.cn References: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> In-Reply-To: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:56:30 -0000 Hi, This isn't the answer, but I'm attempting to provide triage for jhb who will probably look at it. This is a GPF, but it's not being caused by an attempt to enter protected mode, so it isn't the most-often reported BTX issue. wsk@gddsn.org.cn wrote: > 6.2R cd boot failed with follow error,and the MegaRAID fw version is FW_1L33 > thanks with any info > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version 1.01 > Console: internal video/keyboard > BIOS CD is cd0 > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive C: is disk1 > > BIOS 639kB/3668928kB available memory > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (root at root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu, Fri Jan 12 06:40:38 UTC 2007) > > int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030086 eip=0000c3d4 > eax=00008058 ebx=00002000 ecx=00000007 edx=0000fffa > esi=0000f69b edi=00040170 epb=000003d8 esp=00000358 > cs=f000 ds=0040 es=5d18 fs=9fc0 gs=f000 ss=9e17 > cs:eip=ec 50 e4 61 58 50 e4 61-58 ee 5a c3 01 00 e4 c3 > 12 00 00 41 d0 0c 02 08-80 00 03 00 79 00 79 00 00 > ss:esp=77 01 03 2c a1 00 08 2c-fa 02 00 e0 00 00 c0 9f > 00 00 4e 80 f3 ee 00 f0-03 24 00 e0 06 02 00 80 > BTX halted > > > It looks like BIOS code at f000:c3d4 is trying to read a word from I/O port 0xfffa, and this is causing a GPF when it tries to write to what looks like the BIOS data area at 0040:0058; "cursor position for video page 4". 0: ec in (%dx),%al 1: 50 push %eax 2: e4 61 in $0x61,%al 4: 58 pop %eax 5: 50 push %eax 6: e4 61 in $0x61,%al 8: 58 pop %eax 9: ee out %al,(%dx) a: 5a pop %edx b: c3 ret c: 01 00 add %eax,(%eax) e: e4 c3 in $0xc3,%al 10: 12 00 adc (%eax),%al 12: 00 41 d0 add %al,0xffffffd0(%ecx) 15: 0c 02 or $0x2,%al 17: 08 80 00 03 00 79 or %al,0x79000300(%eax) 1d: 00 79 00 add %bh,0x0(%ecx) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 17:04:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8FD16A403; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECDB13C4BF; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3294EEB213E; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:45:46 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xkhqb9NS2xvw; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:45:42 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (unknown [221.220.29.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8207AEB154A; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:45:42 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=Gk4eadRGNHuxBGZ482zAFSV1HfqW3MXK+U+331AlF3Gj2tHrlH0Nh1WgmsMLzo512 A7JikoRDlFKEMXkuAlYBg== Message-ID: <45CCA530.3070003@delphij.net> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:45:36 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce M. Simpson" References: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7F1C2A071F60419B4A1C696A" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, wsk@gddsn.org.cn Subject: Re: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:04:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7F1C2A071F60419B4A1C696A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Hi, >=20 > This isn't the answer, but I'm attempting to provide triage for jhb who= > will probably look at it. >=20 > This is a GPF, but it's not being caused by an attempt to enter > protected mode, so it isn't the most-often reported BTX issue. >=20 > wsk@gddsn.org.cn wrote: >> 6.2R cd boot failed with follow error,and the MegaRAID fw version is >> FW_1L33 >> thanks with any info >> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version 1.01 >> Console: internal video/keyboard >> BIOS CD is cd0 >> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >> >> BIOS 639kB/3668928kB available memory >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >> (root at root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu, Fri Jan 12 06:40:38 UTC 2007) >> >> int=3D0000000d err=3D00000000 efl=3D00030086 eip=3D0000c3d4 >> eax=3D00008058 ebx=3D00002000 ecx=3D00000007 edx=3D0000fffa >> esi=3D0000f69b edi=3D00040170 epb=3D000003d8 esp=3D00000358 >> cs=3Df000 ds=3D0040 es=3D5d18 fs=3D9fc0 gs=3Df000 ss=3D9e17 >> cs:eip=3Dec 50 e4 61 58 50 e4 61-58 ee 5a c3 01 00 e4 c3 >> 12 00 00 41 d0 0c 02 08-80 00 03 00 79 00 79 00 00 >> ss:esp=3D77 01 03 2c a1 00 08 2c-fa 02 00 e0 00 00 c0 9f >> 00 00 4e 80 f3 ee 00 f0-03 24 00 e0 06 02 00 80 >> BTX halted >> >> >> =20 >=20 > It looks like BIOS code at f000:c3d4 is trying to read a word from I/O > port 0xfffa, and this is causing a GPF when it tries to write to what > looks like the BIOS data area at 0040:0058; "cursor position for video > page 4". >=20 > 0: ec in (%dx),%al > 1: 50 push %eax > 2: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > 4: 58 pop %eax > 5: 50 push %eax > 6: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > 8: 58 pop %eax ^^^^^^^^^^^ The stack operations sound mad to me :-) I think these is probably not what we expect... > 9: ee out %al,(%dx) > a: 5a pop %edx > b: c3 ret > c: 01 00 add %eax,(%eax) > e: e4 c3 in $0xc3,%al > 10: 12 00 adc (%eax),%al > 12: 00 41 d0 add %al,0xffffffd0(%ecx) > 15: 0c 02 or $0x2,%al > 17: 08 80 00 03 00 79 or %al,0x79000300(%eax) > 1d: 00 79 00 add %bh,0x0(%ecx) Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enig7F1C2A071F60419B4A1C696A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzKUwOfuToMruuMARA9RdAJ0TrTHtAOdmIcPzb60f8nf9mjhQJgCfWEvZ vrYGqUWvF895K8F24Sj7/sQ= =aZ4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7F1C2A071F60419B4A1C696A-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 19:06:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A6D16A403; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from sumo.dreamhost.com (sumo.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F913C49D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from spunkymail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-83.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.83]) by sumo.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5CD17885D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sauron.lan.box (unknown [200.203.28.7]) by spunkymail-a11.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E738B832D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:47:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:47:18 -0200 From: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez To: LI Xin Message-Id: <20070209164718.403adb07.rnsanchez@wait4.org> In-Reply-To: <45CCA530.3070003@delphij.net> References: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> <45CCA530.3070003@delphij.net> Organization: SYS_WAIT4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.0beta3 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "Bruce M. Simpson" , current@freebsd.org, wsk@gddsn.org.cn Subject: Re: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:06:32 -0000 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:45:36 +0800 LI Xin wrote: > >> esi=0000f69b edi=00040170 epb=000003d8 esp=00000358 ^^^ Typo of "ebp"? > >> cs=f000 ds=0040 es=5d18 fs=9fc0 gs=f000 ss=9e17 > >> cs:eip=ec 50 e4 61 58 50 e4 61-58 ee 5a c3 01 00 e4 c3 > >> 12 00 00 41 d0 0c 02 08-80 00 03 00 79 00 79 00 00 > >> ss:esp=77 01 03 2c a1 00 08 2c-fa 02 00 e0 00 00 c0 9f > >> 00 00 4e 80 f3 ee 00 f0-03 24 00 e0 06 02 00 80 > >> BTX halted > >> > >> > >> > > > > It looks like BIOS code at f000:c3d4 is trying to read a word from I/O > > port 0xfffa, and this is causing a GPF when it tries to write to what > > looks like the BIOS data area at 0040:0058; "cursor position for video > > page 4". > > > > 0: ec in (%dx),%al > > 1: 50 push %eax > > 2: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > > 4: 58 pop %eax > > 5: 50 push %eax > > 6: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > > 8: 58 pop %eax > ^^^^^^^^^^^ The stack operations sound > mad to me :-) I think these is probably not what we expect... Indeed, but the address in %esp doesn't look too bad: 0x358. Wouldn't this be inside the first 4K page? -- Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez Powered by FreeBSD "Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 19:07:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1107C16A400 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from spunkymail-a7.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-202.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBF113C4C4 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sean@cyberwang.net) Received: from [10.0.0.31] (71-14-6-202.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com [71.14.6.202]) by spunkymail-a7.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E944C5C144; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:07:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45CCC676.9070507@cyberwang.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:07:34 -0500 From: Sean Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Mawer , Sean Bryant , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> <20070207055131.GC1620@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20070207055131.GC1620@funkthat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:07:38 -0000 John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Antony Mawer wrote this message on Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 17:04 +1100: >> On 6/02/2007 1:47 PM, Sean Bryant wrote: >>> Dominic Marks wrote: >>>> Check out G4U (NetBSD based) >>> The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will >>> have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning of >>> the disk. >>> >>> The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy >>> across the network which would be way faster. >> Now all you need is G4U to operate in a multicast manner like Symantec >> Ghost Corporate Edition, and your transfer speed wouldn't reduce with >> each additional client (eg. 100mbps for 1 client, 50mbps each for 2 >> clients, 33.3mbps each for 3 clients, ...) > > Add FEC to the multicast, and you can constantly stream the data, and > not have to worry about dropped segments as much... > Can you explain this? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 20:41:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0E316A401 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.77.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F8413C481 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-67-190-235-215.hsd1.mn.comcast.net[67.190.235.215]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200702092041410120019rpne>; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:41:45 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:41:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> In-Reply-To: <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702091441.39848.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Artem Kuchin Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:41:52 -0000 On Friday 09 February 2007 09:15, Artem Kuchin wrote: > Alexander Sabourenkov wrote: > > Artem Kuchin wrote: > >> hi! > >> > >> I am the original poster of this thread. I have read many > >> interesting reply during these two days. However, as i said in > >> the original message due to certification issues i am pretty > >> limited to INTEL controllers and i have not seen a single > >> relevant reply about them. This is interesting. Nobody uses > >> Intel controllers on FreeBSD or they just suck that much? > > > > If you have enough SATA ports and no need for fancy RAID levels, > > then my advice is to use gmirror. > > > > Hardware RAID1 buys you nothing in perfomance and reliability > > for a prolonged headache with drivers, bios insanity and > > monitoring+control tools. > > Hm... two points here. I, somehow, do not really believe that > software raid (gmirror for example) is as reliable as hardware. > I, deeply inside, believe that i might screw things very badly > under some heavy load and bad timing conditions. Can't explain it. > it is religious i guess, but i can be very wrong about this. > > However, two perfomance point: > Under gmirror OS must issue two commands to write to disks and some > commands to check/set mark that mirrored data is intact. > Under hardware RAID OS issue sonly one command to write and no > checking command, since raid controller handles this async. > > So, software OS raid must be slower than controller based raid > anyway. > > Am i right here? Any benchmark data on this? > > As for reliability of gmirror. I just need to know how it works to > see for myself that if power turned off in some racing condition > gmirror will know that disk are out of sync. If it is done than > gmirror must check sync of disks every read, and that mean two > command for reading too, which must slow down things. Is it true? > > -- > Artem > What hardware RAID buys you over gmirror is that you can boot from it. =20 If a drive in the mirror fails the device name available to the OS is=20 still the same. The FreeBSD loader does not do gmirror, it boots off=20 the raw device, and then gmirror is loaded. If the drive you are=20 booting off of fails you have to have the BIOS set to boot from the=20 other drive in the mirror, and then you run into 'what is the root=20 device set to in loader.conf' issues. =46rom a raw speed perspective on an unloaded CPU a 3.0ghz processor is=20 probably just as fast or faster than the embedded processor on a RAID=20 card running at a few hundred mhz. Sure, once you start talking=20 about CPUs at full load there are advantages to off-loading stuff to=20 a dedicated processor. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 21:22:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CF116A400; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from mxfep03.bredband.com (mxfep03.bredband.com [195.54.107.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C139F13C471; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep03.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20070209205359.EUXZ2708.mxfep03.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com>; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:53:59 +0100 Received: from ua-83-227-181-30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO mailbox.gneto.com) ([83.227.181.30]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 09 Feb 2007 21:53:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.10.11] (euklides.gneto.com [192.168.10.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailbox.gneto.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214E128409; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:53:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45CCDF35.5040100@gneto.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:53:09 +0100 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wsk@gddsn.org.cn References: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> In-Reply-To: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:22:12 -0000 wsk@gddsn.org.cn wrote: > 6.2R cd boot failed with follow error,and the MegaRAID fw version is FW_1L33 > thanks with any info Hi, Firmware 1L33 is from 12/15/04, why not try 1L47 which is the latest and was released on 5/11/06 You can find it here: http://www.lsilogic.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_scsi/megaraid_scsi_3202/index.html /Martin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 21:32:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CBD16A408 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C35813C4B2 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from [172.16.2.242] (cetus.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by magellan.palisadesys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l19LWCBs051863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:32:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Message-ID: <45CCE856.4040109@palisadesys.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:32:06 -0600 From: Guy Helmer User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]); Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:32:12 -0600 (CST) X-Palisade-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Palisade-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Palisade-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Palisade-MailScanner-From: ghelmer@palisadesys.com Subject: 6.2 amd64 hang, continued X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:32:24 -0000 I will not claim to have any kernel locking foo, however it seems odd to me that this machine has lots of processes waiting on "allproc" but "show alllocks" doesn't show any process having the allproc lock. Is this correct? db> show alllocks Process 89731 (perform_ca) thread 0xffffff0128c9fbe0 (100232) exclusive sx proctree r = 0 (0xffffffff8070dde0) locked @ kern/kern_exit.c:602 Process 85077 (ph_ thread 0xffffff012e83bbe0 (100182) exclusive sleep mutex process lock r = 0 (0xffffff01205c1418) locked @kern/subr_trap.c:88 Process 85077 (ph) thread 0xffffff01142e0000 (100133) exclusive sleep mutex so_rcv r = 0 (0xffffff0126948338) locked @ kern/uipc_socket.c:2037 exclusive sleep mutex so_snd r = 0 (0xffffff0126948408) locked @ kern/uipc_socket.c:2036 Process 837 (sendmail) thread 0xffffff012efa3260 (100035) exclusive sx sysctl lock r = 0 (0xffffffff8070e580) locked @ kern/kern_sysctl.c:1375 db> show sleepchain 843 thread 100055 (pid 843, sendmail) blocked on sx "sysctl lock" XLOCK thread 100035 (pid 837, sendmail) blocked on lk "allproc" EXCL (count 0) db> where 89792 Tracing pid 89792 tid 100199 td 0xffffff01251a24c0 sched_switch() at sched_switch+0x13a mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x1d2 critical_exit() at critical_exit+0xb0 spinlock_exit() at spinlock_exit+0x17 turnstile_unpend() at turnstile_unpend+0x249 vmspace_exit() at vmspace_exit+0x9a exit1() at exit1+0x38f sys_exit() at sys_exit+0xe syscall() at syscall+0x4d1 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_exit), rip = 0x48b46c, rsp = 0x7fffffffeae8, rbp = 0x5fa000 --- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 21:36:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7CD16A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@insidesystems.net) Received: from imap.insidesystems.net (imap.insidesystems.net [206.216.149.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12D913C4A6 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@insidesystems.net) Received: from [68.32.227.193] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by imap.insidesystems.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFcvT-0004s6-GR for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:04:59 -0600 Message-ID: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:06:56 -0500 From: Kevin Way Organization: InsideSystems, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:36:08 -0000 I recently ran into a bug in the jail startup scripts that caused this command to be executed: ifconfig bce0 -alias It turns out that this command eliminated the primary IP for the device. man ifconfig defines the behavior of -alias to be: -alias Remove the network address specified. This would be used if you incorrectly specified an alias, or it was no longer needed. If you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side effect of specifying the host portion, removing all NS addresses will allow you to respecify the host portion. I can't help but wonder if it would be better behavior to throw an error when no argument is supplied. The only discussion I found of this in a quick search of the archives was a post in 2004 which noted that the fxp driver actually deletes all IP addresses, but there was no significant follow-up. Should ifconfig throw an error if no address is supplied? -Kevin Way From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 21:48:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D7E16A401 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnzw@isp.com) Received: from mail10.mdx.safepages.com (mail10.mdx.safepages.com [216.127.133.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1D013C441 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnzw@isp.com) Received: by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 9DB09202B5; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:48:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [216.8.44.197] (216-8-44-197.dialup.ziplink.net [216.8.44.197]) by mail10.mdx.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E14203C6; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:48:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:48:26 -0500 From: John Walthall User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:48:14 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2007-Feb-08 17:16:23 -0500, John Walthall wrote: >> functionally obsolete. User PPP provides better service, and several >> tangible design benefits. User PPP is very easy to use, Kernel PPP is not. > > Actually, kernel PPP has one significant (at least theoretical) > advantage over user ppp: Network data is not pushed through the > kernel/userland interface an additional two times. This is irrelevant > for low-speed modem interfaces but could be significant for PPPoE on > high-speed broadband. Keep in mind that a firewall host is likely to > be a slow box - either a pensioned-off desktop or a mini-ITX style > system. > >> FreeBSD is NOT Linux, and SHOULD NOT attempt to model it. FreeBSD is BSD >> UNIX! Isn't that the WHOLE POINT (pardon my shouting) for our existence? > > I'm not sure I see where Linux comes into this. Looking back into > history, it seems that both ppp(4) and ppp(8) arrived fairly close > together. It appears that ppp(4) was a port of the portable ppp-2.2 > code - the same code as used in SunOS AFAIR. > Yes, indeed. I admit I had not thought of that. I was writing from MY personal perspective, With my nice modern machine and my privileged state of not having broadband access (wink, wink). This is a rant, er editorial; I am writing as it seems to *me*. Conceded: this is not true for *everyone*. As to where Linux comes in. It appears to me that PPP is the more normal way on FreeBSD, whereas, in my own experience Linux, (or at least, the distributions I formerly used) prefer PPPD. Therefore when KDE wrote KPPP, (and they originally wrote it more-or-less for Linux.) They used PPPD. There is nothing theoretically invalid about PPPD. It's just not quite how we do things *most of the time*. Over time FreeBSD and Linux drifted apart on this design issue, and it became something of a characteristic of BSD, perhaps that is why Kernel PPP became less well maintained I should *not* have said "Did a clumsy job". I probably should have said, "Did a less than perfect job". I guess it's kind of like trying to make a bread recipe with rice flour instead of wheat flour. I retract this phrase. Regarding the various comments by Michael Nottebrock, Firstly: The bug you mentioned I have not experienced. I never had problems when killing the X-server. I cannot comment on that. I do not often kill my X-Server; perhaps I just didn't do it frequently enough. If you believe that this speech is a rant, you are somewhat correct. I am rather cross and it does show. However I differ with your estimation that it is undignified. Oh, Please! With all due respect you take things entirely too seriously. I am obviously being over-the-sarcastic. If you feel that you "should not dignify this rant by replying to it, but," then don't! No buts! If you really think it is a rant. Ignore it! That's the mature thing to do! As for your opinion that I should close the bug. I will not. An unwise design decision has caused this problem. Because of known problems with PPPD, KPPP should provide at least the option of using user land PPP. You may of course differ from this view. However, unless a large outcry arises, I will not close the bug. I think that it is, in-fact a bug. Bugs are sometimes a bit subjective. The KPPP Developers can always ignore me. -- Unless instructed to do otherwise, Please address mail to vistua@sdf.lonestar.org and not to this address. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 21:49:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F4F16A501 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [216.148.227.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B106E13C4AA for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20070209214909m1300spehke>; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:49:09 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD1621FA01D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:49:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:49:08 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Way Message-ID: <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Way , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> X-PGP-Key: http://jdc.parodius.com/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:49:09 -0000 On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:06:56PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: > I recently ran into a bug in the jail startup scripts that caused this > command to be executed: > > ifconfig bce0 -alias > > It turns out that this command eliminated the primary IP for the device. > > man ifconfig defines the behavior of -alias to be: > > -alias Remove the network address specified. This would be used > if you > incorrectly specified an alias, or it was no longer needed. If > you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side > effect of > specifying the host portion, removing all NS addresses will > allow > you to respecify the host portion. > > > I can't help but wonder if it would be better behavior to throw an error > when no > argument is supplied. > > The only discussion I found of this in a quick search of the archives > was a post in > 2004 which noted that the fxp driver actually deletes all IP addresses, > but there was > no significant follow-up. > > Should ifconfig throw an error if no address is supplied? My vote is for either 1) an error, or 2) delete all of the aliases associated with that interface. If I had a preference, I'd choose #1. I'd argue that -alias doing what you described (removing the non-aliased IP bound to the iface) when no inet/inet6 arguments are suppied is indeed a bug. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 22:21:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFB916A412; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [213.154.244.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF1F13C4B4; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (kilgore.lan.dim [192.168.0.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDE2B80E; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:21:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45CCF3ED.1090704@andric.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:21:33 +0100 From: Dimitry Andric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0pre (Windows/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce A. Mah" References: <20070120162936.GA18104@tomcat.kitchenlab.org> <20070121.020741.59649277.hrs@allbsd.org> <45B251A5.4000209@freebsd.org> <45B3CA56.4040106@andric.com> <45B421D4.2050008@freebsd.org> <45B48F0C.9090809@andric.com> <45B63C3E.9010808@freebsd.org> <45B676A2.5090009@andric.com> <45CBD32E.40005@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <45CBD32E.40005@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jhay@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 over gif(4) broken in 6.2-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:21:36 -0000 Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I've convinced myself that this problem needs to be tested in isolation > (i.e. you have complete control over both ends of the tunnel) because > incoming packets over the tunnel cause the host route to get added > automatically if it wasn't there already. > > After reading the code and discussing this with a couple folks, I've > managed to convince myself that 1.48.2.14 and 1.48.2.15 (and their > analogues on HEAD) need to go away. I've committed diffs that back > these out, and they solve the problem for me in my testing (which I've > done with two VMs in isolation). The applicable revisions for nd6.c are > 1.74 (HEAD) and 1.48.2.18 (RELENG_6). Updating up to (or beyond) these > revisions should clear up the problem. Confirmed. I've updated the machine on which I originally had this problem to -STABLE as of today, and the problem has disappeared. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 22:55:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDF716A403 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (grnl-static-02-0046.dsl.iowatelecom.net [69.66.56.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E45713C467 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 22:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l19MTPE4012570; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:29:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l19MTPx9012569; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:29:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:29:25 -0600 From: Brooks Davis To: Kevin Way , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qcHopEYAB45HaUaB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:29:26 -0600 (CST) Cc: Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:55:05 -0000 --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 01:49:08PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:06:56PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: > > I recently ran into a bug in the jail startup scripts that caused this > > command to be executed: > >=20 > > ifconfig bce0 -alias > >=20 > > It turns out that this command eliminated the primary IP for the device. > >=20 > > man ifconfig defines the behavior of -alias to be: > >=20 > > -alias Remove the network address specified. This would be used > > if you > > incorrectly specified an alias, or it was no longer needed= =2E If > > you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side > > effect of > > specifying the host portion, removing all NS addresses will > > allow > > you to respecify the host portion. > >=20 > >=20 > > I can't help but wonder if it would be better behavior to throw an error > > when no > > argument is supplied. > >=20 > > The only discussion I found of this in a quick search of the archives > > was a post in > > 2004 which noted that the fxp driver actually deletes all IP addresses, > > but there was > > no significant follow-up. > >=20 > > Should ifconfig throw an error if no address is supplied? >=20 > My vote is for either 1) an error, or 2) delete all of the aliases > associated with that interface. If I had a preference, I'd choose #1. >=20 > I'd argue that -alias doing what you described (removing the non-aliased > IP bound to the iface) when no inet/inet6 arguments are suppied is > indeed a bug. It's way to late to make this change. This is known behavior and has been for ages. If there's a bug it's in the documentation. -- Brooks --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFzPXEXY6L6fI4GtQRAkkSAKCpoWo/7D2EAjsiBowRgL7qTzk/mgCgj/43 zzn/eglfGIxnf3xjrUJpyMk= =JG0P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 23:18:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D4216A403 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BAE13C47E for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (ijj8dl6skcs4o6ko@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l19NIVBR009707; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:18:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.6/8.13.3/Submit) id l19NITO4009706; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 15:18:29 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Sean Bryant Message-ID: <20070209231829.GJ1620@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Sean Bryant , Antony Mawer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks References: <45C52C3E.8040204@elgia.com> <20070205101806.b45f4118.dom@helenmarks.co.uk> <45C7EC5F.2030108@cyberwang.net> <45C81A5B.1010608@mawer.org> <20070207055131.GC1620@funkthat.com> <45CCC676.9070507@cyberwang.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CCC676.9070507@cyberwang.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Dominic Marks Subject: Re: dd as an imaging solution. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:18:33 -0000 Sean Bryant wrote this message on Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 14:07 -0500: > John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >Antony Mawer wrote this message on Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 17:04 +1100: > >>On 6/02/2007 1:47 PM, Sean Bryant wrote: > >>>Dominic Marks wrote: > >>>>Check out G4U (NetBSD based) > >>>The only problem I can see here is that multiple parallel reads will > >>>have serious performance impacts, thus greatly increasing the cloning of > >>>the disk. > >>> > >>>The solution with dd, tee and netcat would just daisy chain the copy > >>>across the network which would be way faster. > >>Now all you need is G4U to operate in a multicast manner like Symantec > >>Ghost Corporate Edition, and your transfer speed wouldn't reduce with > >>each additional client (eg. 100mbps for 1 client, 50mbps each for 2 > >>clients, 33.3mbps each for 3 clients, ...) > > > >Add FEC to the multicast, and you can constantly stream the data, and > >not have to worry about dropped segments as much... > > > Can you explain this? FEC stands for Forward Error Correction... Check out: http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/fec.html for some work that Luigi has done wrt FEC. I've even embedded his FEC library in the kernel w/o too much difficulty... Wikipedia also has an article on it... So the idea is that you multicast out the data broken up into x packets.. In addition to x packets, you also transmit y "parity" packets... As long as the end system receives any combination of x and y packets where the total unique packet count is x, you are able to reconstruct the data... You choose y based upon your expected packet drop rate.. This has the advantage that when you are transmitting the data, and a machine fails to receive a packet, you don't have to a) retrainsmit the packet, or b) wait till the same data packet comes along... Because you can replace the missed data packet w/ one of the parity packets to reconstruct the data... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 01:00:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A03116A406 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6F413C442 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anc ([200.152.88.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1A10mQB013686; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:00:51 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:00:34 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702092300.35420.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Kevin Way , Brooks Davis Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:00:54 -0000 On Friday 09 February 2007 20:29, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 01:49:08PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:06:56PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: > > > I recently ran into a bug in the jail startup scripts that caused this > > > command to be executed: > > > > > > ifconfig bce0 -alias > > > > > > It turns out that this command eliminated the primary IP for the > > > device. > > > =2E... > > It's way to late to make this change. This is known behavior and has > been for ages. If there's a bug it's in the documentation. > wellwell, we also were apes for ages but does not mean that we stay behavin= g=20 like them and if some still does so it is also never to late to change=20 that ;) "ifconfig nic -alias" is obviously a wired and confusing behaviour and shou= ld=20 firstable do what it says, remove an alias and not the first IP address eve= n=20 if it can be seen as an alias too. Logic would exist when ifconfig nic -ali= as=20 removes all aliases (or perhaps first of them) but not one by one starting= =20 with the first ip. Then when there is no other alias left it should better= =20 ask if removing the Ip address is really desired since it is essential to=20 have one. rmuser and other utilities also ask such kind of questions for le= ss=20 reason. then already beeing here there is more, ifconfig nic alias does not return= =20 anything at all and ifconfig nic -alias on a nic w/o ip returns "can't assi= gn=20 requested address" ... =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 01:54:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB24816A402 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from mindcrime.bit0.com (bit0.com [207.246.88.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FE913C441 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from [172.27.1.254] (nat.bit0.com [207.246.88.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mindcrime.bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579BD730002 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:54:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45CD2551.2070206@bit0.com> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:52:17 -0500 From: Mike Andrews User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <00ad01c74b65$79db1710$0c00a8c0@Artem> <45CC72D4.9040104@lxnt.info> <01e601c74c5d$31be19c0$0c00a8c0@Artem> <200702091441.39848.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200702091441.39848.josh@tcbug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What is a good choice of sata-ii raid controller for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:54:04 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > What hardware RAID buys you over gmirror is that you can boot from it. [snip] > From a raw speed perspective on an unloaded CPU a 3.0ghz processor is > probably just as fast or faster than the embedded processor on a RAID > card running at a few hundred mhz. Sure, once you start talking > about CPUs at full load there are advantages to off-loading stuff to > a dedicated processor. What hardware RAID buys me over gmirror is that SATA2 NCQ actually works on recent hardware RAID cards, and doesn't on gmirror -- at least according to the ata(4) manpage on 6.2-RELEASE. Depending on your specific application, that could have a performance impact, no? -- Mike Andrews * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com It's not news, it's Fark.com. Carpe cavy! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 02:06:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD4D16A401 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D9A13C4A7 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.14]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37421E5495; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7DD11391C; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-150-238.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.150.238]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AA219B321; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1A26eoO003870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1A26da1015241; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l1A26clg015240; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:06:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com> In-Reply-To: <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702100306.38076.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:06:47 -0000 --nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 9. February 2007 22:48, John Walthall wrote: > Because of known problems with=20 > PPPD, KPPP should provide at least the option of using user land PPP. > You may of course differ from this view. However, unless a large outcry > arises, I will not close the bug. I think that it is, in-fact a bug. > Bugs are sometimes a bit subjective. The KPPP Developers can always > ignore me. No, bugs are not 'a bit subjective'. With just a little actual analysis and= =20 straight thinking it is very easy to determine what is a bug and where the= =20 bug is. The fact that KPPP does not support ppp(8) is not a bug, it is a missing=20 feature. If you want to request a feature, you open a wish, not a bug, you= =20 word it nicely and preferably attach some code that implements that feature= ,=20 because this is how community-driven open source development works. Did it= =20 ever cross your mind that the KPPP developer(s) might not even use FreeBSD? The fact that machines panic or freeze when KPPP is used is not a bug in KP= PP=20 either, because KPPP is nothing but a front-end to the software that causes= =20 the problem. By principle, a kernel panic or freeze is never an application= 's=20 fault, because the kernel should never panic and never freeze, no matter wh= at=20 an application does. Therefore, the bug report needs to go into FreeBSD's=20 bugtracker (someone else already filed one, see my previous mails for the=20 URL), not KDE's. All that your "bug report" accomplishes is broadcasting your bad and=20 uninformed attitude to an even bigger audience. It is in your own and the=20 =46reeBSD community's best interest to backtrack before anyone gets to form= a=20 negative opinion on both. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFzSiuXhc68WspdLARAtwZAJ94j8/M9tDX/jKSHYj+OuVMvHvYFwCcD59B sQmYuUA5JXka9szeNchgms4= =PcJQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8873188.dNgKqkqs1I-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 02:13:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423D216A418 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@insidesystems.net) Received: from imap.insidesystems.net (imap.insidesystems.net [206.216.149.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2325B13C4C3 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin@insidesystems.net) Received: from [68.32.227.193] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by imap.insidesystems.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFhk1-0008oU-2l; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:13:29 -0600 Message-ID: <45CD2A42.5050001@insidesystems.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:13:22 -0500 From: Kevin Way Organization: InsideSystems, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:13:30 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 01:49:08PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:06:56PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: >> >>> I recently ran into a bug in the jail startup scripts that caused this >>> command to be executed: >>> >>> ifconfig bce0 -alias >>> >>> It turns out that this command eliminated the primary IP for the device. >>> > It's way to late to make this change. This is known behavior and has > been for ages. If there's a bug it's in the documentation. > > -- Brooks > I'm as much of a change-hating curmudgeon as the next guy, but if anybody is relying on "ifconfig iface -alias" 's undefined behavior, then they deserve the pain that will come with a fix. As it stands the behavior appears to vary between drivers (archive search shows that on fxp it blows away all IPs, while on bce it blows away the primary IP, leaving all aliases intact.) Am I missing a reason that this could ever be desirable? If it was consistent, I could see an argument for documentation. But as it stands, the only thing to document would be that the behavior varies between drivers, and a fix has been declined on the basis of momentum. At a minimum can this get normalized in -HEAD? --Kevin Way From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 02:48:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6E716A400 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [206.18.177.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F2D13C491 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070210024712b1100kni3pe>; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:47:12 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4851F1FA01D; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:47:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:47:12 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Way Message-ID: <20070210024712.GA68286@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Kevin Way , Brooks Davis , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <45CCE270.7080704@insidesystems.net> <20070209214908.GA64090@icarus.home.lan> <20070209222925.GB11826@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <45CD2A42.5050001@insidesystems.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CD2A42.5050001@insidesystems.net> X-PGP-Key: http://jdc.parodius.com/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:48:06 -0000 On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:13:22PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: > I'm as much of a change-hating curmudgeon as the next guy, but if > anybody is relying on > "ifconfig iface -alias" 's undefined behavior, then they deserve the > pain that will come with a fix. > > As it stands the behavior appears to vary between drivers (archive > search shows that on fxp it > blows away all IPs, while on bce it blows away the primary IP, leaving > all aliases intact.) Upon looking at the code, I can see exactly where this (read: -alias without any arguments) can be addressed, and it's not in the NIC drivers. Tracing through src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c in RELENG_6: main() iterates through argv, calling cmd_lookup() on each argument passed. cmd_lookup() does a strcmp() comparison against the argument passed and what's in each struct entry pointed to by pointer "cmds". "cmds" is populated via the constructor ifconfig_ctor(), taking its data from a struct table called basic_cmds. Entries in basic_cmds use macros named DEF_CMD(), DEF_CMD_ARG(), and DEF_CMD_ARG2(), which define the number of arguments required. Thus, it seems to me that either the struct of basic_cmds needs to be changed to address things differently (argv parsers are fun!), or one could simply move "-alias" to require "inet" or "inet6" (or whatever other things you might want to match on). It seems to me that this oversight was addressed when adding 802.1 support to ifconfig -- thus creating ifieee80211.c, which has pre-requisite counts and things for some of the arguments. Thus, what I'm saying is this: the change should be doable, and the argument for "keeping this brokenness" fails miserably (sorry Brooks, I don't want you to feel like I'm raining on your parade, but your argument doesn't jive with me.) > Am I missing a reason that this could ever be desirable? If it was > consistent, I could see an > argument for documentation. But as it stands, the only thing to > document would be that the > behavior varies between drivers, and a fix has been declined on the > basis of momentum. I can't see why this would be desirable either. I don't want ifconfig to go the route of Linux's ipfwadm --> ipchains --> iptables (anyone familiar with that migration should understand my comparison), but we're talking about an oversight of the syntax parser here. Additionally, if each driver (fxp vs. bge vs. nve) all behave differently on -alias, that's also odd. I bet that one can be explained, though. > At a minimum can this get normalized in -HEAD? I would like to see this addressed in -HEAD and backported to RELENG_6, because this isn't an ifconfig syntax change, it's addressing a decent oversight in what expected arguments are for certain commands. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 05:13:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74B716A400; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C4D13C4B5; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id PAA03369; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:54:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:54:19 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20070210024712.GA68286@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Kevin Way , Brooks Davis , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:13:10 -0000 On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:13:22PM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: > > I'm as much of a change-hating curmudgeon as the next guy, but if > > anybody is relying on > > "ifconfig iface -alias" 's undefined behavior, then they deserve the > > pain that will come with a fix. > > > > As it stands the behavior appears to vary between drivers (archive > > search shows that on fxp it > > blows away all IPs, while on bce it blows away the primary IP, leaving > > all aliases intact.) > > Upon looking at the code, I can see exactly where this (read: -alias > without any arguments) can be addressed, and it's not in the NIC > drivers. > > Tracing through src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c in RELENG_6: > > main() iterates through argv, calling cmd_lookup() on each argument > passed. cmd_lookup() does a strcmp() comparison against the argument > passed and what's in each struct entry pointed to by pointer "cmds". > "cmds" is populated via the constructor ifconfig_ctor(), taking its > data from a struct table called basic_cmds. Entries in basic_cmds > use macros named DEF_CMD(), DEF_CMD_ARG(), and DEF_CMD_ARG2(), which > define the number of arguments required. > > Thus, it seems to me that either the struct of basic_cmds needs to be > changed to address things differently (argv parsers are fun!), or one > could simply move "-alias" to require "inet" or "inet6" (or whatever > other things you might want to match on). This is way out of my league, but: -alias Remove the network address specified. This would be used if you incorrectly specified an alias, or it was no longer needed. If you have incorrectly set an NS address having the side effect of specifying the host portion, removing all NS addresses will allow you to respecify the host portion. Does not 'remove the network address specified' imply that this should fail if a) there is no network address specified or b) the address that is specified is not an existing alias address for the interface? Secondly, pardon my ignorance, but what does 'NS' refer to here? That string / term occurs nowhere else in ifconfig(8). Perhaps I'm missing a valid (and used) usage of -alias with no address? [..] Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 06:34:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F16416A401; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AEE13C494; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id RAA05700; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:34:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:34:32 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200702081709.20395.lofi@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: stable@freebsd.org, John Walthall , Joe Vender Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:34:41 -0000 On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Thursday, 8. February 2007 08:38, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55785 on record, your > > > > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > > > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel ppp > > > > > driver). > > > > > > > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit any > > > > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating > > > > the settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of > > > > everything needed? > > > > > > > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having > > > > with FreeBSD and KPPP. > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/98154 > > > > > > I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since that > > > is a better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > > > > > > > Is there any intention to address it? > > > > > > I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. To > > > that end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone's > > > benefit. > > > > Perhaps we should rather be calling upon the KDE developer community to > > provide such a frontend interface to configure and invoke FreeBSD's ppp, > > for those who find a little manual configuration, as you describe below, > > beyond them? > > You mean the FreeBSD-using KDE developer community, which is neither very big > nor very prolific. I am convinced that remaining compatible with common Linux > solutions will always be the better strategy as far as the desktop is > concerned. Well perhaps there's a pppd hacker who shares your conviction out there somewhere? As Kris emphasised, pppd's fallen into disrepair because nobody cares for it, whereas I've watched ongoing quality work on and support of ppp over the last 9 years by very cluey FreeBSD developers. I made my own choice back then, and have long omitted ppp from kernels as a waste of space, and have very rarely even seen pppd mentioned. KPPP doesn't fail here, but finding no ppp interface, has nothing to do. Since once trying (and failing) to debug or even comprehend a spaghetti of scripts and configs behind a dialout-only linux pppd setup some years ago, compared to the much more straightforward ppp with mgetty setup for both dialout and some dialin modem lines I'd built pretty much from the FreeBSD Handbook even at 2.2.6 with nary a problem, regressing for sake of 'compatibility' with a linux-based sub-application seems silly. I agree with you about this not being a KPPP bug (though searching KDE bugs for 'kppp' provides no shortage of hits!) and appreciate that KDE people have no interest in catering for user ppp, since it's not linux, despite or perhaps because of its obvious superiority to FreeBSD people. Maybe at least the KPPP 'documentation', such as it is, could at least mention that it doesn't support FreeBSD's ppp over tun devices, to avoid the expectation that it should work that gave rise to this thread. And yes, if pppd is broken and won't be fixed, it should disappear. Over and out, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 07:35:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C61216A405 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from ameno.mahoroba.org (gw4.mahoroba.org [218.45.22.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2069113C481 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from kasuga.mahoroba.org (IDENT:tqAggG+utuKHhEFElEg/ciGsgSOp9AmlmqPjdi9QPgoMyA6VH9zbECdJ2cV8Sc81@[IPv6:2001:200:161:1cf0:20b:97ff:fe2e:b521]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by ameno.mahoroba.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP/inet6 id l1A6ww2e018863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:59:00 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:58:50 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hajimu UMEMOTO To: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <86veib1eqc.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <86veib1eqc.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: xcite1.38> Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.93 (i386-pc-freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1F00 0B9E 2164 70FC 6DC5 BF5F 04E9 F086 BF90 71FE Organization: Internet Mutual Aid Society, YOKOHAMA MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ameno.mahoroba.org [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:8010::1]); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:59:02 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on ameno.mahoroba.org Cc: Peter Jeremy , vistua@sdf.lonestar.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:35:28 -0000 Hi, >>>>> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:24:11 +0100 >>>>> Eric Masson said: emss> Right, and an up to date pppd in base would be imho really nice to have. emss> Kernel pppoe as in Net/Open would be an alternative to net/mpd. emss> (No, I'm not volunteering to port NetBSD's kernel ppp to FreeBSD as my emss> C & kernel programming skills are way under required level) In my experience, this is not an issue that just porting pppd from NetBSD or OpenBSD, or importing latest pppd solves the problem. It seems locking problem to me, and setting debug.mpsafenet to 0 should be a workaround. Of course, it's great someone upgrading our pppd to recent one. Sincerely, -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 07:39:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F262516A400 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD513C471 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.14]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7444C397; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (mail-in-01.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.41]) by mail-in-02-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3BE11434B; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-173-053.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.173.53]) by mail-in-01.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F662106E7C; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1A7dJV6013901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1A7dIQJ024072; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l1A7dIcN024071; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: Ian Smith Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:39:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702100839.18511.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:39:26 -0000 --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 10. February 2007 07:34, Ian Smith wrote: > Since once trying (and failing) to debug or even comprehend a spaghetti > of scripts and configs behind a dialout-only linux pppd setup some years > ago, compared to the much more straightforward ppp with mgetty setup for > both dialout and some dialin modem lines I'd built pretty much from the > FreeBSD Handbook even at 2.2.6 with nary a problem, regressing for sake > of 'compatibility' with a linux-based sub-application seems silly. Well, kppp makes configuring dialout easy. Or attempts to, at least. :) > I agree with you about this not being a KPPP bug (though searching KDE > bugs for 'kppp' provides no shortage of hits!) and appreciate that KDE > people have no interest in catering for user ppp, since it's not linux, > despite or perhaps because of its obvious superiority to FreeBSD people. > > Maybe at least the KPPP 'documentation', such as it is, could at least > mention that it doesn't support FreeBSD's ppp over tun devices, to avoid > the expectation that it should work that gave rise to this thread. It kinda does. It says right in the about dialog and in the very first line= of=20 its online help: "A dialer and front end for pppd". > And yes, if pppd is broken and won't be fixed, it should disappear. And when that happens, so will kppp (it won't build once the if_ppp.h heade= r=20 is gone). Which of course would solve the problem in a way. In any case: I= =20 dragged this issue onto -stable precisely to attract attention to the probl= em=20 and hopefully motivate someone to get down and write some code, whether for= =20 pppd or kppp, I really don't care much. Cheers, =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFzXamXhc68WspdLARAmVjAJ9trtDykd/LwSnJZvc9KHCUV3dsgwCcCgAg qsdmF3M3VcZWmZpqvb7t+6U= =29M8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1238318.CFC7pYL9t5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 10:16:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406F616A401 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A450613C467 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from ap-h.matik.com.br (ap-h.matik.com.br [200.152.83.36]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1AAGR6s051426; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:16:27 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:17:30 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702100817.31321.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ian Smith Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:16:31 -0000 On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:54, Ian Smith wrote: > > Secondly, pardon my ignorance, but what does 'NS' refer to here? That > string / term occurs nowhere else in ifconfig(8). > nameserver =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 12:15:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5349916A40F for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C750C13C49D for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.29]) by mail-in-12.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EFA4CDA9; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (mail-in-13.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.53]) by mail-in-12-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0550279445; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (dslb-084-061-173-053.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.173.53]) by mail-in-13.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEE0225122; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (root@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.2]) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l1ACFSPS017010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l1ACFS6Q072746; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by kiste.my.domain (8.13.6/8.13.4/Submit) id l1ACFQ6u072745; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lofi@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kiste.my.domain: lofi set sender to lofi@freebsd.org using -f From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:15:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200702100817.31321.joao@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200702100817.31321.joao@matik.com.br> X-Face: g:jG2\O{-yqD1x?DG2lU1)(v%xffR"p8Nz(w/*)YEUO\Hn%mGi&-!+rq$&r64,=?utf-8?q?fuP=7E=3Bbw=5C=0A=09=5EQdX?=@v~HEAi?NaE8SU]}.oeYSjN84Fe{M(ahZ.(i+lxyP; pr)2[%mGbkY'RmM>=?utf-8?q?+mg3Y=24ip=0A=091?=@Z>[EUaE7tjJ=1DRs~:!uSd""d~:/Er3rpQA%ze|bp>S MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3784056.rGBAoZcKzr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200702101315.26888.lofi@freebsd.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: JoaoBR , Ian Smith Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:15:35 -0000 --nextPart3784056.rGBAoZcKzr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 10. February 2007 12:17, JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:54, Ian Smith wrote: > > Secondly, pardon my ignorance, but what does 'NS' refer to here? That > > string / term occurs nowhere else in ifconfig(8). > > nameserver I think this actually refers to XNS. You can tell that manpage has quite a= =20 history. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart3784056.rGBAoZcKzr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFzbdeXhc68WspdLARAqGgAJ9324aHaCxcbDd7+ycOT7/IA/CHDwCcCFFK 5Lag83hUUQfFN5kJMW84Irk= =vDDx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3784056.rGBAoZcKzr-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 12:18:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EC016A400 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zkolic@sbb.co.yu) Received: from smtp3.sbb.co.yu (smtp3.sbb.co.yu [82.117.194.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1085F13C4A6 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zkolic@sbb.co.yu) Received: from faust.net (cable-89-216-167-189.dynamic.sbb.co.yu [89.216.167.189]) by smtp3.sbb.co.yu (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l1ACI7Gl027856 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:18:13 +0100 Received: by faust.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D8E4D1CC58; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:17:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:17:54 +0100 From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070210121754.GA913@faust.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.2 X-SBB-Virus-Status: clean X-SBB-Spam-Score: 1.6 X-SBB-Spam-Level: XXX Subject: install on usb hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:18:24 -0000 Howdy! I tried to install 6.2 amd64 on external usb hdd, but with no result. It is 2.5 WD and enclosure with two usb connectors for power. The box is not visible from bios at all, even when I use powered usb hub. Is it possible to install on external device like this? Product is from canyon. Should I buy another enclosure or look for internal 3.5 drive? Note: neither bios nor installation cd see the external drive. What could I do to have it working? Zoran From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 14:19:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D1D16A402; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F01313C48D; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id BAA17910; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:19:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 01:19:32 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200702101315.26888.lofi@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, JoaoBR Subject: Re: Desired behaviour of "ifconfig -alias" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:19:44 -0000 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Saturday, 10. February 2007 12:17, JoaoBR wrote: > > On Saturday 10 February 2007 01:54, Ian Smith wrote: > > > Secondly, pardon my ignorance, but what does 'NS' refer to here? That > > > string / term occurs nowhere else in ifconfig(8). > > > > nameserver > > I think this actually refers to XNS. You can tell that manpage has quite a > history. If that's right, indeed it does. Google took me to the Early Adopter's Guide to FreeBSD 5.1 where XNS was reported dropped, and to a Cisco XNS introductory page, as my punishment for asking more than one question! Thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 14:27:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF3A16A403; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsk@gddsn.org.cn) Received: from gddsn.org.cn (gddsn.org.cn [218.19.164.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E0313C461; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wsk@gddsn.org.cn) Received: from [192.168.200.214] (unknown [221.219.176.178]) by gddsn.org.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7366E38CB96; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:27:12 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <45CDD632.9090009@gddsn.org.cn> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:26:58 +0800 From: wsk User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce M. Simpson" , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org References: <1171031359.45cc853f78c66@gddsn.org.cn> <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <45CCA151.7030403@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: BTX halted with MegaRaid SCSI 320-2 on 6.2R help X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:27:21 -0000 Bruce M. Simpson Wrote: > Hi, > > This isn't the answer, but I'm attempting to provide triage for jhb > who will probably look at it. > > This is a GPF, but it's not being caused by an attempt to enter > protected mode, so it isn't the most-often reported BTX issue. > > wsk@gddsn.org.cn wrote: >> 6.2R cd boot failed with follow error,and the MegaRAID fw version is >> FW_1L33 >> thanks with any info >> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version 1.01 >> Console: internal video/keyboard >> BIOS CD is cd0 >> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >> BIOS drive C: is disk1 >> >> BIOS 639kB/3668928kB available memory >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 >> (root at root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu, Fri Jan 12 06:40:38 UTC 2007) >> >> int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030086 eip=0000c3d4 >> eax=00008058 ebx=00002000 ecx=00000007 edx=0000fffa >> esi=0000f69b edi=00040170 epb=000003d8 esp=00000358 >> cs=f000 ds=0040 es=5d18 fs=9fc0 gs=f000 ss=9e17 >> cs:eip=ec 50 e4 61 58 50 e4 61-58 ee 5a c3 01 00 e4 c3 >> 12 00 00 41 d0 0c 02 08-80 00 03 00 79 00 79 00 00 >> ss:esp=77 01 03 2c a1 00 08 2c-fa 02 00 e0 00 00 c0 9f >> 00 00 4e 80 f3 ee 00 f0-03 24 00 e0 06 02 00 80 >> BTX halted >> >> >> > > It looks like BIOS code at f000:c3d4 is trying to read a word from I/O > port 0xfffa, and this is causing a GPF when it tries to write to what > looks like the BIOS data area at 0040:0058; "cursor position for video > page 4". > > 0: ec in (%dx),%al > 1: 50 push %eax > 2: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > 4: 58 pop %eax > 5: 50 push %eax > 6: e4 61 in $0x61,%al > 8: 58 pop %eax > 9: ee out %al,(%dx) > a: 5a pop %edx > b: c3 ret > c: 01 00 add %eax,(%eax) > e: e4 c3 in $0xc3,%al > 10: 12 00 adc (%eax),%al > 12: 00 41 d0 add %al,0xffffffd0(%ecx) > 15: 0c 02 or $0x2,%al > 17: 08 80 00 03 00 79 or %al,0x79000300(%eax) > 1d: 00 79 00 add %bh,0x0(%ecx) upgrade BIOS version to V17B and solved the problems. thanks anyone From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 17:35:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CF716A400 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7AD13C442 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC131FFEF7; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id AE2581FFEB3; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8193444CD8; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Peter Losher In-Reply-To: <45BD80A2.3090807@plosh.net> Message-ID: <20070210171925.X47107@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <45BD80A2.3090807@plosh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New IPv6 LOR in 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:35:31 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Peter Losher wrote: >> lock order reversal: >> 1st 0xffffff00b79c3cc8 inp (raw6inp) @ > /usr/src/sys/netinet6/raw_ip6.c:153 >> 2nd 0xffffff00b79c3df8 inp (rawinp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet6/raw_ip6.c:153 added with LOR ID 201 to the LOR page: http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html#201 -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 17:56:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1C616A402 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E9D13C441 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28361FFEC1; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 794DB1FFEAF; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1274D444CC1; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:39 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20070204201558.GA46483@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20070210172804.Q47107@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <20070204201558.GA46483@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LOR in ipdivert and devfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:41 -0000 On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > I get the following lock order reversals at boot on this 6.2 system. > > Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: lock order reversal: > Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: 1st 0xc08422a0 cdev (cdev) @ kern/kern_conf.c:61 > Feb 3 14:47:28 xor kernel: 2nd 0xc3a4510c sleep mtxpool (sleep mtxpool) @ kern/kern_prot.c:1877 this has already been known: http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html#187 > This one appears to be new although there are other ipdivert-related > reversals known. > > Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: lock order reversal: > Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: 1st 0xc3dea090 inp (divinp) @ netinet/ip_divert.c:354 > Feb 3 12:48:49 xor kernel: 2nd 0xc0892700 in_multi_mtx (in_multi_mtx) @ netinet/ip_output.c:306 I added this one with LOR ID 202 to the LOR page: http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html#202 -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 17:56:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF02F16A405 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F9E13C46B for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4AD1FFE79; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 2EB041FFEF5; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59C0444CBF; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:34 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Ulrich Spoerlein In-Reply-To: <7ad7ddd90612290214m196c8533tf50ed9204647acda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070210164930.S47107@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <7ad7ddd90612290214m196c8533tf50ed9204647acda@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: bzeeb+freebsd+lor@zabbadoz.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acquiring duplicate lock when mounting nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:41 -0000 On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: Hi, > this is on a RELENG_6 while mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj via nullfs > and doing 'make installkernel installworld' > > It is similar to LOR #083, but not quite the same > > acquiring duplicate lock of same type: "vnode interlock" > 1st vnode interlock @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_vnops.c:806 > 2nd vnode interlock @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2036 added to the LOR page with LOD ID 197: http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html#197 -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 17:56:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13A916A406; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7613C467; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AFD1FFE76; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 1BCAA1FFED7; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:35:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8BA444CD8; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:33:57 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Sven Willenberger In-Reply-To: <1168211205.22629.6.camel@lanshark.dmv.com> Message-ID: <20070210170533.F47107@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <1168211205.22629.6.camel@lanshark.dmv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de Cc: stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic in 6.2-PRERELEASE with bge on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:56:41 -0000 On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Sven Willenberger wrote: > lock order reversal: (sleepable after non-sleepable) > 1st 0xffffffff8836b010 bge0 (network driver) @ /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c:2675 > 2nd 0xffffffff805f26b0 user map (user map) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:3074 added with LOD ID 199 to The LOR page: http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html#199 I am unsure if this was patched already - if so please let me know. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 19:08:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EEE16A401 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spil.oss@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C613C4B7 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spil.oss@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so179048ugh for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:08:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FUS55dx1pNMpTLEvtxZaixCFeRIKlM4lhocxm9w2WyrMWrCgMJMkhFjCmH5f/vUIzTRbVYDYjdPFElGD7kzoWREKmNf8Ig/hFewFZmNITdocjpVlweKFuFYyV/5+ZBg/Vxb/f7RHVLzfZhXFpTU0Cbs7msLyceTFWY9eh5HxE/c= Received: by 10.78.180.16 with SMTP id c16mr133040huf.1171134512992; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.222.11 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:08:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fbf03c20702101108p686ed116n90fbdf26308f0e55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:08:32 +0100 From: "Spil Oss" To: Michael In-Reply-To: <45C9A73C.1020409@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5fbf03c20702021132y5f931f5esdeab22d0048fa5a6@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A73C.1020409@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with IPv6-less kernel and world X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: spil.oss@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:08:35 -0000 Hi Michael, Well, actually I'm proposing a change to the GENERIC kernel and make.conf.example to add to the comment that one should add WITHOUT_IPV6 to the make.conf if you enable NO_INET6. That sounds to me like something completely different than contacting all port-maintainers. There may off course be a lot of ports in the ports-collection that do not correctly handle WITHOUT_IPV6, and the maintainers of these ports should be contaced on a per-port basis. Kind regards, Spil. On 07/02/07, Michael wrote: > Spil Oss wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have NO_INET6 in my /etc/make.conf and INET6 is commented out in my > > kernel config. > > Until today I did *not* have WITHOUT_IPV6 in my make.conf > > In 6.1 I have been unable to run php 5.2 in combination with > > mail/roundcube, it segfaulted apache, 5.1.6_3 was fine. > > Since my upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE I was no longer able to connect to the > > MSN network using irc/bitlbee_1.0.3_3 (which worked fine on 6.1) and > > every account I had took an additional 75 seconds to load (timeout on > > the socket) (net.inet.tcp.keepinit: 75000? or net.inet.tcp.keepintvl: > > 75000?) > > > > After trying all kinds of things (openssl, gnutls), today I found out > > that bitlbee had a --ipv6 knob in it's config and was able to run > > bitlbee again after fiddling the Makefile. Then I set WITHOUT_IPV6 in > > my make.conf and that worked as well. > > To my surprise, a newly compiled PHP 5.2 now also works > > > > Should there not be a warning in the examples and man-pages for the > > make.conf and GENERIC that you should set WITHOUT_IPV6 if you disable > > INET6 and/or set NO_INET6? > > Would save idiots like undersigned tripping into this dark hole.... > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Spil. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I couldn't agree more. This makes it tough for those of us that want to > get rid of the overhead of the IPV6 protocol in our systems, and a lot > more work in researching whether or not a particular binary will cause > problems. > > What you'll probably have to do Spil is contact the maintainer of each > of those ports and request that some form of option or note be added to > the port/pkg_desc. > > Michael Lawver > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 19:56:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB40916A407 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: from spew.ugcs.caltech.edu (spew.ugcs.caltech.edu [131.215.176.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA41113C4B8 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd@ugcs.caltech.edu) Received: by spew.ugcs.caltech.edu (Postfix, from userid 3640) id 0A3C85A0E6; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:30:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:30:23 -0800 From: Paul Allen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070210193023.GA14340@spew.ugcs.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: jd@ugcs.caltech.edu Subject: fusefs, race-to-root X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:56:21 -0000 Has anyone else observed that fusefs appears to suffer from the race-to-root problem that used to plague NFS prior to rev 1.39 of vfs_lookup.c? Paul From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 21:36:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1A616A402 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F253C13C49D for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1ALa4KJ016886 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:36:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1ALa3Ld016885 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:36:03 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:36:03 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070210213603.GU834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aZoGpuMECXJckB41" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Subject: Random "Network is unreachable" on 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:36:06 -0000 --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've recently upgraded my firewall from 5.4 to 6.2-RELEASE and am now getting random "Network is unreachable" messages on connections to the firewall from my internal network. Some checking suggests it also affects connections from and through my firewall as well. I have had about 6 attempts at copying a 600MB data file to the firewall and they generally drop out after 100-200MB - though not at the same place. It looks very much like pattern sensitivity. The firewall rules have not changed and look as below. fxp0 is internet and fxp1 is internal. Has anyone else seen anything like this? fwall# ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 options=3D8 inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast xxx.xxx.xxx.255 ether 00:d0:b7:91:d7:e4 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fxp1: flags=3D8843 mtu 1500 options=3D8 inet 10.11.12.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.11.12.255 ether 00:d0:b7:b2:51:15 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 fwall# ipfw list 00010 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any fwall# ipfstat -io block out all pass out quick on lo0 all block out quick on fxp1 all head 20 pass out quick on fxp1 proto udp from 10.11.12.1/32 to 10.11.12.0/24 port = =3D ntp group 20 pass out quick on fxp1 proto tcp from 10.11.12.1/32 to 10.11.12.0/24 port = =3D ssh flags S/FSRPAU keep state group 20 pass out quick on fxp1 proto tcp from 10.11.12.1/32 to 10.11.12.0/24 port = =3D smtp flags S/FSRPAU keep state group 20 block out log quick all group 20 block out quick on fxp0 all head 21 =2E.. block out log quick all group 21 block out log all block in all pass in quick on lo0 all block in quick on fxp1 all head 10 pass in quick on fxp1 proto tcp from any to any flags S/FSRPAU keep state k= eep frags group 10 pass in quick on fxp1 proto udp from any to any keep state keep frags group= 10 pass in quick on fxp1 proto icmp from any to any keep state keep frags grou= p 10 block in log quick all group 10 block in quick on fxp0 all head 11 =2E.. block in log quick all group 11 block in log all fwall#=20 --=20 Peter Jeremy --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFzjrD/opHv/APuIcRAtLrAJ4tZumWTKeHQX/5dUXkNgvwCbrf4wCgjVau 0AownO11XVX4NO/Z8L+aL9Y= =R183 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aZoGpuMECXJckB41-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 23:00:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD81716A40A for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F5013C474 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anc ([200.152.88.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l1AN0QIT012047; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:00:26 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, spil.oss@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:00:09 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <5fbf03c20702021132y5f931f5esdeab22d0048fa5a6@mail.gmail.com> <45C9A73C.1020409@gmail.com> <5fbf03c20702101108p686ed116n90fbdf26308f0e55@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5fbf03c20702101108p686ed116n90fbdf26308f0e55@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702102100.11768.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Michael Subject: Re: Problems with IPv6-less kernel and world X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:00:29 -0000 On Saturday 10 February 2007 17:08, Spil Oss wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Well, actually I'm proposing a change to the GENERIC kernel and > make.conf.example to add to the comment that one should add > WITHOUT_IPV6 to the make.conf if you enable NO_INET6. > > That sounds to me like something completely different than contacting > all port-maintainers. > even if ipv6 is a real situation it is not the standard, ipv4 is, then, eve= n=20 if ipv6 is some network's standard it is not a global standard, ipv4 is certainly then, it makes no sense that ipv6 is the default, neither for=20 applications nor for the kernel also certain then is that ipv6 is an ADDITIONAL option and who wants it, ne= eds=20 to enable it, either for applications as for the kernel, not the inverse=20 situation as today but this is not only a FBSD wiredness but a general confusion ... but so far as it matters to FBSD it is funny how many core/OS parts simply= =20 ignore NO_INET6 even if set ...=20 =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 10 23:35:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F216A401 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C302513C441 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HG1ka-0002Qc-6Y for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:35:24 +0100 Received: from 89-172-59-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.59.197]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:35:24 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-59-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:35:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:35:16 +0100 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20070210193023.GA14340@spew.ugcs.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig793768074B0A5C2636B16F14" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-59-197.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <20070210193023.GA14340@spew.ugcs.caltech.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: fusefs, race-to-root X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:35:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig793768074B0A5C2636B16F14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul Allen wrote: > Has anyone else observed that fusefs appears to suffer from > the race-to-root problem that used to plague NFS prior to rev > 1.39 of vfs_lookup.c? Yes, AFAIK was a known problem since the start - you might want to contact its creator to check if he knows about the (possible) fix. --------------enig793768074B0A5C2636B16F14 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFzla0ldnAQVacBcgRAgEpAKDxCQ8LH/jMXkgCvtnT92gwlY3FOgCgjJpa qSRDnspAgS68FBNjWoqiOW8= =miRQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig793768074B0A5C2636B16F14--