From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 16 14:13:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A4A106567F for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D548FC18 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3557800waf.3 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.136.1 with SMTP id j1mr7696wad.85.1208353554639; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.53.10 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:45:49 +0200 From: "TooMany Secrets" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:13:23 -0000 SGkhCgpJIG5lZWQgdG8gbWFrZSBhICJmcmVlYnNkIGFkdm9jYWN5IiBwcmVzZW50YXRpb24gdGhp cyB3ZWVrZW5kIGludG8gdGhlCkJTRENvbiBCYXJjZWxvbmEnMDguIFRoZSBwcm9ibGVtIGlzIHRo YXQgSSBuZXZlciBtYWtlIGEgcHJlc2VudGF0aW9uCmZvciBhbnl0aGluZyA6LSgKQW55Ym9keSBj b3VsZCBoZWxwIG1lIHdpdGggaWRlYXM/Ck9uZSBvZiB0aGUgcG9pbnRzIGkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0 byBleHBsYWluIGlzIHRoZSBmYWN0IHRoYXQgRnJlZUJTRCBpcwppbiBtb3JlIGNvbXBhbmllcyB0 aGF0IHRoZSBwZW9wbGUgd291bGQgYmUgdGhpbmssIGJ1dCBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8KdGFsayBh Ym91dCBvdGhlciBleGFtcGxlcyAobm90IHRoZSB0eXBpY2FsIFlhaG9vLCBKdW5pcGVyLCBldGMp LgpFeGN1c2UgbWUgaWYgeW91IGNhbid0IHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgd2hhdCBJIHdvdWxkIHRvIHNheSwg bXkgZW5nbGlzaCBpcwp2ZXJ5IGJhZC4uLgoKVGhhbmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCEhCgotLSAKSGF2 ZSBhIG5pY2UgZGF5IDstKQpUb29NYW55U2VjcmV0cwoKPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PQpEaWpvIENvbmZ1Y2lvOgoiRXjDrWdldGUgbXVjaG8gYSB0aSBtaXNtbyB5IGVzcGVyYSBw b2NvIGRlIGxvcyBkZW3DoXMuIEFzw60gdGUgYWhvcnJhcsOhcwpkaXNndXN0b3MuIgo9PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cg== From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 12:01:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680C1065671 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EB18FC1C for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4916.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.73.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3HC1Wh0096749; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3HC4HVU050564; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3HC473x037835; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200804171204.m3HC473x037835@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "TooMany Secrets" In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to "TooMany Secrets" message dated "Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:45:49 +0200." Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:07 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:01:37 -0000 "TooMany Secrets" wrote: > --===============0759980930== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: inline > > SGkhCgpJIG5lZWQgdG8gbWFrZSBhICJmcmVlYnNkIGFkdm9jYWN5IiBwcmVzZW50YXRpb24gdGhp > cyB3ZWVrZW5kIGludG8gdGhlCkJTRENvbiBCYXJjZWxvbmEnMDguIFRoZSBwcm9ibGVtIGlzIHRo > YXQgSSBuZXZlciBtYWtlIGEgcHJlc2VudGF0aW9uCmZvciBhbnl0aGluZyA6LSgKQW55Ym9keSBj > b3VsZCBoZWxwIG1lIHdpdGggaWRlYXM/Ck9uZSBvZiB0aGUgcG9pbnRzIGkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0 > byBleHBsYWluIGlzIHRoZSBmYWN0IHRoYXQgRnJlZUJTRCBpcwppbiBtb3JlIGNvbXBhbmllcyB0 > aGF0IHRoZSBwZW9wbGUgd291bGQgYmUgdGhpbmssIGJ1dCBJIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8KdGFsayBh > Ym91dCBvdGhlciBleGFtcGxlcyAobm90IHRoZSB0eXBpY2FsIFlhaG9vLCBKdW5pcGVyLCBldGMp > LgpFeGN1c2UgbWUgaWYgeW91IGNhbid0IHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgd2hhdCBJIHdvdWxkIHRvIHNheSwg > bXkgZW5nbGlzaCBpcwp2ZXJ5IGJhZC4uLgoKVGhhbmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCEhCgotLSAKSGF2 > ZSBhIG5pY2UgZGF5IDstKQpUb29NYW55U2VjcmV0cwoKPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 > PT09PQpEaWpvIENvbmZ1Y2lvOgoiRXjDrWdldGUgbXVjaG8gYSB0aSBtaXNtbyB5IGVzcGVyYSBw > b2NvIGRlIGxvcyBkZW3DoXMuIEFzw60gdGUgYWhvcnJhcsOhcwpkaXNndXN0b3MuIgo9PT09PT09 > PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cg== > > --===============0759980930== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --===============0759980930==-- Please avoid un-necessary UTF-8. Ascii works better ! Anyway, I & others did presentations one evening last year, feel free to use any data or tools etc you can from eg http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/ http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/ http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/export/1_intro_julian/current/ Sources http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/source/1_intro_julian/current/ PS a hint on lecturing: Think back over all the lectures youve attended, & all the different weird annoying distracting ineffective methods & habits all the different lecturers had, & avoid that list, & you're off to a good start just by avoiding that list :-) Good Luck ! Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 is spam. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 12:18:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34141106566B for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CF68FC1C for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3HCHXw1025325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:17:45 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3HCHSZC002371; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:17:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m3HCHPNe002370; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:17:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <200804171204.m3HC473x037835@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:17:25 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200804171204.m3HC473x037835@fire.js.berklix.net> (Julian H. Stacey's message of "Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87lk3cy8tm.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m3HCHXw1025325 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.958, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.44, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:18:11 -0000 On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:04:07 +0200, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > Please avoid un-necessary UTF-8. Ascii works better ! > > Anyway, I & others did presentations one evening last year, > feel free to use any data or tools etc you can from eg > http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/ > http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/ > http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/export/1_intro_julian/current/ > Sources > http://www.berklix.com/free/talk/presentations/source/1_intro_julian/current/ > > PS a hint on lecturing: > Think back over all the lectures youve attended, & all the different > weird annoying distracting ineffective methods & habits all the > different lecturers had, & avoid that list, & you're off to a good > start just by avoiding that list :-) Good Luck ! The BSDCan article of Robert Watson may also give a few good ideas: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/eurobsdcon2006-howfreebsdworks.pdf Slides also available at: http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/2006eurobsdcon/20061111-eurobsdcon2006-how-freebsd-works.pdf From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 12:46:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926B91065672 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AC48FC13 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so80432waf.3 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.76.5 with SMTP id d5mr1290409wal.191.1208436402051; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.53.10 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:46:41 +0200 From: "TooMany Secrets" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <87lk3cy8tm.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200804171204.m3HC473x037835@fire.js.berklix.net> <87lk3cy8tm.fsf@kobe.laptop> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:46:42 -0000 T24gVGh1LCBBcHIgMTcsIDIwMDggYXQgMjoxNyBQTSwgR2lvcmdvcyBLZXJhbWlkYXMKPGtlcmFt aWRhQGNlaWQudXBhdHJhcy5ncj4gd3JvdGU6Cj4gIFRoZSBCU0RDYW4gYXJ0aWNsZSBvZiBSb2Jl cnQgV2F0c29uIG1heSBhbHNvIGdpdmUgYSBmZXcgZ29vZCBpZGVhczoKPgo+ICBodHRwOi8vd3d3 LndhdHNvbi5vcmcvfnJvYmVydC9mcmVlYnNkLzIwMDZldXJvYnNkY29uL2V1cm9ic2Rjb24yMDA2 LWhvd2ZyZWVic2R3b3Jrcy5wZGYKPgo+ICBTbGlkZXMgYWxzbyBhdmFpbGFibGUgYXQ6Cj4KPiAg aHR0cDovL3d3dy53YXRzb24ub3JnL35yb2JlcnQvZnJlZWJzZC8yMDA2ZXVyb2JzZGNvbi8yMDA2 MTExMS1ldXJvYnNkY29uMjAwNi1ob3ctZnJlZWJzZC13b3Jrcy5wZGYKClRoYW5rIHlvdSB2ZXJ5 IG11Y2ggdG8gZXZlcnlib2R5ISEhCgotLSAKSGF2ZSBhIG5pY2UgZGF5IDstKQpUb29NYW55U2Vj cmV0cwoKPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpEaWpvIENvbmZ1Y2lvOgoiRXjDrWdl dGUgbXVjaG8gYSB0aSBtaXNtbyB5IGVzcGVyYSBwb2NvIGRlIGxvcyBkZW3DoXMuIEFzw60gdGUg YWhvcnJhcsOhcwpkaXNndXN0b3MuIgo9PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cg== From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 13:10:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD76106564A for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo@bebik.net) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F4D8FC1E for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo@bebik.net) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B08125510F8 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:50:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699DC3EA0D3; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hodja.bebik.net (gam75-4-82-235-223-127.fbx.proxad.net [82.235.223.127]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219D93EA0DE; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hodja.bebik.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EC9D28473; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:19 +0200 From: "Rodrigo OSORIO (ros)" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080417125118.GA79359@hodja.bebik.net> References: <20080417120008.3ECB710656B4@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080417120008.3ECB710656B4@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:10:16 -0000 Few examples of companies who uses FreeBSD : - Orange Buisness Services formaly knows as France Telecom (mail relay /servers, auth servers) - BitDefender (antivirus solution) as they told me their favorite platform is FreeBSD for mail antivir. solutions (most stable) - In the French speaking universe : http://freebsd.bebik.net/wiki/index.php/Liste_des_soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9s_et_organismes_utilisant_%2ABSD ( the list is pretty fresh) - http://www.escapebox.net (hosting) I think you can found other examples. Good luck Rodrigo OSORIO > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:45:49 +0200 > From: "TooMany Secrets" > Subject: Help with a presentation. > To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi! > > I need to make a "freebsd advocacy" presentation this weekend into the > BSDCon Barcelona'08. The problem is that I never make a presentation > for anything :-( > Anybody could help me with ideas? > One of the points i would like to explain is the fact that FreeBSD is > in more companies that the people would be think, but I would like to > talk about other examples (not the typical Yahoo, Juniper, etc). > Excuse me if you can't understand what I would to say, my english is > very bad... > > Thank you very much!! > > -- > Have a nice day ;-) > TooManySecrets > > ============================ > Dijo Confucio: > "Ex??gete mucho a ti mismo y espera poco de los dem??s. As?? te ahorrar??s > disgustos." > ============================ > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 17:41:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B883B106566B for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E68FC22 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.210.21] (helo=81-174-210-21.pth-as3.dial.plus.net) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JmXcC-0006aL-6a for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:09:41 +0100 From: Frank Mitchell To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:42:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804171742.58735.mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Plusnet-Relay: 48365357c04282d61d2ab8a2d895cb31 Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:41:34 -0000 Hi FreeBSD Advocates: I used to give talks about computers among other things, so maybe I can contribute. Obviously the usual approach is to talk about a series of slides. But you don't need a Slide Projector if you can overcome the usual Stage Fright. One useful technique for organising your material is the Spider-Chart. A bloke named Tony Buzan wrote books about these, calling them Mind-Maps or Brain-Patterns, but the idea is much older. You start with a large sheet of paper, like a double-spread of Line-Printer output, and you write the central theme in the centre. Then you draw lines branching out to the main topics, then further branches out to further associated ideas, with interconnecting links between them. After collecting your thoughts this way you organise them into a sequential list for your Computer Talk. The Spider-Chart is ideal for a subject like Computing, because the more abstract the material is, the better it works. It's also good in Group Discussions. If everybody draws up a Spider-Chart you get an instant picture of the different perspectives people have on a subject. Your talk can become alot simpler if you encourage Audience Participation. Just read a brief Introduction or Summary and ask whether anybody has any questions already. It's alot less daunting to talk to a single member of the audience than to address the whole crowd simultaneously. You may find the whole occasion takes on a life of its own, with the audience doing half your talk for you. Obviously you need an excuse for questions you can't answer, like explaining you're also researching what people want to know about. You can note down on all the topics you didn't think of and check them out for your next presentation. You still need to go back to your prepared notes occasionally when the debate dies away. You can find alot of your material has been covered and you need to pick out the bits nobody thought of yet. Just go through the next topic briefly and ask if there are any more questions again. You need this feedback anyway, otherwise you risk going on without being understood by half your audience. If there is any misunderstanding, that gives you more stuff to discuss. At the end you can discover that you kept people interested for three hours and only used half your material. Faictz Ce Que Vouldras: Frank Mitchell On Wednesday 16 April 2008 14:45:49 TooMany Secrets wrote: > Hi! > > I need to make a "freebsd advocacy" presentation this weekend into the > BSDCon Barcelona'08. The problem is that I never make a presentation > for anything :-( > Anybody could help me with ideas? > One of the points i would like to explain is the fact that FreeBSD is > in more companies that the people would be think, but I would like to > talk about other examples (not the typical Yahoo, Juniper, etc). > Excuse me if you can't understand what I would to say, my english is > very bad... > > Thank you very much!! > -- > Have a nice day ;-) > TooManySecrets > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 17:49:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687131065671 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E228FC16 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toomany@toomany.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so152723wra.13 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.158.1 with SMTP id g1mr1816741wae.203.1208454580777; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.53.10 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:49:40 +0200 From: "TooMany Secrets" To: "Frank Mitchell" In-Reply-To: <200804171742.58735.mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200804171742.58735.mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:42 -0000 T24gVGh1LCBBcHIgMTcsIDIwMDggYXQgNjo0MiBQTSwgRnJhbmsgTWl0Y2hlbGwKPG1pdGNoZWxs QHd5YXR0NjcyZWFycC5mb3JjZTkuY28udWs+IHdyb3RlOgo+ICBPbmUgdXNlZnVsIHRlY2huaXF1 ZSBmb3Igb3JnYW5pc2luZyB5b3VyIG1hdGVyaWFsIGlzIHRoZSBTcGlkZXItQ2hhcnQuIEEgYmxv a2UKPiAgbmFtZWQgVG9ueSBCdXphbiB3cm90ZSBib29rcyBhYm91dCB0aGVzZSwgY2FsbGluZyB0 aGVtIE1pbmQtTWFwcyBvcgo+ICBCcmFpbi1QYXR0ZXJucywgYnV0IHRoZSBpZGVhIGlzIG11Y2gg b2xkZXIuIFlvdSBzdGFydCB3aXRoIGEgbGFyZ2Ugc2hlZXQgb2YKPiAgcGFwZXIsIGxpa2UgYSBk b3VibGUtc3ByZWFkIG9mIExpbmUtUHJpbnRlciBvdXRwdXQsIGFuZCB5b3Ugd3JpdGUgdGhlIGNl bnRyYWwKPiAgdGhlbWUgaW4gdGhlIGNlbnRyZS4gVGhlbiB5b3UgZHJhdyBsaW5lcyBicmFuY2hp bmcgb3V0IHRvIHRoZSBtYWluIHRvcGljcywKPiAgdGhlbiBmdXJ0aGVyIGJyYW5jaGVzIG91dCB0 byBmdXJ0aGVyIGFzc29jaWF0ZWQgaWRlYXMsIHdpdGggaW50ZXJjb25uZWN0aW5nCj4gIGxpbmtz IGJldHdlZW4gdGhlbS4gQWZ0ZXIgY29sbGVjdGluZyB5b3VyIHRob3VnaHRzIHRoaXMgd2F5IHlv dSBvcmdhbmlzZSB0aGVtCj4gIGludG8gYSBzZXF1ZW50aWFsIGxpc3QgZm9yIHlvdXIgQ29tcHV0 ZXIgVGFsay4KCkh1bW1tLi4uIEkgbmV2ZXIgaGVhcmQgYWJvdXQgdGhhdC4gTG9va3MgbGlrZSBh IGdyZWF0IHdheSB0byBtYWtlIGEKcHJlc2VudGF0aW9uLCBhbmQgYWxzbyBwYXJ0aWNpcGF0aXZl IHdheSBmb3IgdGhlIGFzc2lzdGFuY2UuCgpUaGFuayB5b3UgZm9yIHlvdXIgZ3JlYXQgaGVscC4K ClJlZ2FyZHMuCgotLSAKSGF2ZSBhIG5pY2UgZGF5IDstKQpUb29NYW55U2VjcmV0cwoKPT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpEaWpvIENvbmZ1Y2lvOgoiRXjDrWdldGUgbXVjaG8gYSB0 aSBtaXNtbyB5IGVzcGVyYSBwb2NvIGRlIGxvcyBkZW3DoXMuIEFzw60gdGUgYWhvcnJhcsOhcwpk aXNndXN0b3MuIgo9PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09Cg== From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 19:56:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A13106564A for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E0E8FC0C for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from spunkymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-66.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.66]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C8617A72C for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sauron.lan.box (189-30-193-129.paemt701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [189.30.193.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by spunkymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF1115D412 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:38:20 -0300 From: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080417163820.a049f062.rnsanchez@wait4.org> In-Reply-To: References: <200804171742.58735.mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> Organization: SYS_WAIT4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0beta2 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:56:58 -0000 On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:49:40 +0200 "TooMany Secrets" wrote: > Hummm... I never heard about that. Looks like a great way to make a > presentation, and also participative way for the assistance. Don't forget to do some practice before the real thing. This way you avoid stage panic, or at least reduce it considerably. -- Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez rnsanchez@wait4.org http://rnsanchez.wait4.org "Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse." From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 18 02:12:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEEC1065670 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DDC8FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl23-13.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.150.13]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m3I2CcDQ021553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:12:46 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3I2CbLN017915; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:12:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m3I2CZjv017477; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:12:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez References: <200804171742.58735.mitchell@wyatt672earp.force9.co.uk> <20080417163820.a049f062.rnsanchez@wait4.org> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:12:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080417163820.a049f062.rnsanchez@wait4.org> (Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez's message of "Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:38:20 -0300") Message-ID: <87lk3boqr1.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m3I2CcDQ021553 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.902, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.50, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with a presentation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:12:54 -0000 On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:38:20 -0300, Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:49:40 +0200 > "TooMany Secrets" wrote: > >> Hummm... I never heard about that. Looks like a great way to make a >> presentation, and also participative way for the assistance. > > Don't forget to do some practice before the real thing. This way you > avoid stage panic, or at least reduce it considerably. Good point :) I have discovered that giving a similar talk to multiple places helps a lot too. The second time a talk is scheduled (and all the subsequent times) I have at least the following advantages over the first time I gave it: * The questions of the audience from the first talk are _very_ helpful in expanding the "interesting" parts and trimming down what they didn't seem to take a very active interest in. * I've practically had a chance for "live" practice of the same talk, by giving it in the past. I also like preparing for a talk by firing up "presentation mode" and keeping a sheet of paper and pencil/pen nearby for notes. While I am timing the talk, I use the paper for notes like: "5>6 no connection" "10 too many bullets in one page" "29 needs more" and other random scribblings about anything that seems "odd" about the talk style, content, or timing. Then I go through the notes and the actual slides, looking for places where improvements can be made. It takes me two or three iterations to catch some of the obvious stuff, but the whole process helps me a lot! Naturally, I don't always have the time to do *all* of this, and I've given talks after staying very late at night and furiously stuffing slides with text and images. These presentations/talks tend of be major disasters or mind-numbingly boring sessions of "See? I can so totally read the text on the big white thing! Oh, where was I?". 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