From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:57:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE7E106567B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64EE68FC16 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88199 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2008 23:31:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=d4sAgy1lnoU7GNWMrVeK3grc7ZKKcpj2KMnaYQYDEz7h2sPEpXlTfZ7IDmSePXBVu6iwG4j1DOZIVcEWtlJJBH3FIwA6DlRpKPGa+S+e+11D8jz/I76o6QxmtB9LeTJAtfhi5L1fiOi7S/MKAduv7XKbIK/y2D5CGKy6EjozOek=; X-YMail-OSG: iHuKszYVM1k9bajP5zxlm5QpvkzSMUg3dRDNmi6VaSVFDRPAM8A- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:31:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:31:03 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <490CD879.8010805@evilphi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <478853.88188.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:32 +0000 Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:57:46 -0000 --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > From: Darren Pilgrim > Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? > To: "Jayton Garnett" > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:30 PM > Jayton Garnett wrote: > > Would the Internet exist without BSD? > > No. > > > > Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) > > No. > > By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) I've seen a quote around attributed to Linus Torvalds, stating something along the lines of "If I'd known about 386BSD back then, I probably wouldn't have created Linux." So an inverse is true, as well - Linux wouldn't exist with BSD. Or something. - mdh From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 03:29:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E01065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428D88FC2B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.248]) by bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:17:12 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:16:35 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:16:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:16:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2008 03:16:35.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[6968F9C0:01C93C99] Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:29:12 -0000 mdh wrote: >--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >>From: Darren Pilgrim >>Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? >>To: "Jayton Garnett" >>Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >>Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:30 PM >>Jayton Garnett wrote: >>>Would the Internet exist without BSD? >>>No. >>> >>>Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) >>>No. >>By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) > >I've seen a quote around attributed to Linus Torvalds, stating something >along the lines of "If I'd known about 386BSD back then, I probably >wouldn't have created Linux." > >So an inverse is true, as well - Linux wouldn't exist with BSD. Or >something. > >- mdh I believe it's from an old LinuxNews piece, from October 1992 - http://www.abc.se/~m9339/linux/linuxdoc/linuxnews03a.html "LN: How do you feel about Minix, 386BSD, and Hurd and their authors? Are they rivals, or or allies? Linus: 386BSD and Hurd are most definitely allies - I'll be happy to help them any way I can (for 386BSD I was already able to help with the math-emulator, and I've been in contact with some others re: vm86 etc). *If 386BSD had been available a year earlier, I would probably never have started on Linux*, but as it is, I'm happy to say that 386BSD didn't automatically mean that Linux wasn't worth it. Both 386BSD and Linux have their points, and I naturally think Linux is more fun." So there you have it, pull out your time machines. ;) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:44:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECC31065691 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: from web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98BCB8FC1F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83741 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 14:17:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=I3k5XDSRXe8FPVdod3SUaMGhT3QIZH7I0Xlzaa3xVhyOtfVKF+3mJBLo3GJFc06u48f69GiEru6KArPamEcYKLex91wwQr/ZCT87YgL2twlbx2T6wfmvD0xLfEJLB0PRshMGa8M+iSNfZoH5TKuUcIujwU2vqSWrFTggCw1eZsg=; X-YMail-OSG: j.oLSTcVM1lzQrVghF.vA4iryvflTkgK.rda_y1SyIEu_Y15W.torlMQd.FR2PYnL1su7Skcr7yBMTQqTg1vI5UPARXrF0erUmFc680lT2V22krlfAvuamiVGrKuWPLvV9WMu1plheY5AngbHaoybKiP3Q-- Received: from [216.137.132.193] by web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:17:33 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: david mellick To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:07:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:44:14 -0000 hello I am new to freeBSD so bare with the stupid questions (updated ports did port snap yadayada..) trying to use the valgrind mod=A0 (http://valgrind.org/) i have mounted=A0 proc and ee fstab according to google's instruction then did a make install in the valgrind ports directory. I have no idea what is considered normal or if it is blowing=A0 up, I get lot= s of text that i dont fully understand ill copy and paste some just to make sure its the norm.=A0=20 ___________________________________________________________________________ gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/lackey/tests' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/lackey' Making all in none gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stabl= e-352/none' Making all in . gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..=A0 -I../include -DVG_LIBDIR=3D"\"/usr/local/lib"\"=A0=A0 -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -g=A0 -MT nl_main.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" -c -o nl_main.o nl_main.c; \ =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 then mv -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" ".deps/nl_main.Po"; el= se rm -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo"; exit 1; fi cc=A0 -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-bou= ndary=3D2 -g=A0=A0=A0 -o vgskin_none.so -shared -Wl,-rpath,../coregrind nl_= main.o mkdir -p ../.in_place rm -f ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so ln -f -s ../none/vgskin_none.so ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/none' Making all in docs gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/none/docs' Making all in tests gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stabl= e-352/none/tests' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/none/tests' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352/none' gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable= -352' __________________________________________________________________________ A.=A0 is that normal ^^ ? B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right?=A0 no matter= what directory I am in?=20 =20 It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly or do i= have to be in a special directory? I did=A0 the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations to try= and run the --version command to no avail.=A0=A0=20 again thanks for helping a noob out.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 02:21:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D772106567F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AA48FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxY19-0001NG-4K; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:21:11 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id mA52LAl2020918; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:21:10 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1C007FCA4B0; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:21:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:21:05 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: david mellick Message-ID: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: david mellick , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:21:10 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:21:17 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:17:33AM -0800, david mellick wrote: > > hello I am new to freeBSD so bare with the stupid questions > > (updated ports did port snap yadayada..) > > trying to use the valgrind mod  (http://valgrind.org/) > > i have mounted  proc and ee fstab according to google's instruction > > then did a make install in the valgrind ports directory. > > I have no idea what is considered normal or if it is blowing  up, I > get lots of text that i dont fully understand ill copy and paste > some just to make sure its the norm.  > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey/tests' > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/lackey' Making > all in none gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' Making all > in . gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' if cc > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..  -I../include > -DVG_LIBDIR="\"/usr/local/lib"\"   -Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O > -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g  -MT nl_main.o > -MD -MP -MF ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" -c -o nl_main.o nl_main.c; \ >         then mv -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo" ".deps/nl_main.Po"; > else rm -f ".deps/nl_main.Tpo"; exit 1; fi cc  -Winline -Wall > -Wshadow -O -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > -g    -o vgskin_none.so -shared -Wl,-rpath,../coregrind nl_main.o > mkdir -p ../.in_place rm -f ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so ln -f -s > ../none/vgskin_none.so ../.in_place/vgskin_none.so gmake[3]: Leaving > directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' > Making all in docs gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' > gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/docs' > Making all in tests gmake[3]: Entering directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' > gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none/tests' > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/none' gmake[1]: > Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352' > __________________________________________________________________________ > > A.  is that normal ^^ ? Yeah, that looks normal. It should be fairly obvious if a port build fails i.e it tells you in fairly certain terms. If that is the case, post the error messages & a few lines before it starts to blow up. > > B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right?  no > matter what directory I am in? Maybe ;) > > > It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly > or do i have to be in a special directory? > > I did  the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations > to try and run the --version command to no avail.   An easy way to see whether a command is in your path is whereis(1) What you probably have to do is: # rehash if you're root or $ hash if you're an ordinary user. These commands make your shell rescan the dirs in it's $PATH. > > > again thanks for helping a noob out. > No worries. A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output of: $ uname -rms Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 02:30:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AAF106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2677C8FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68468 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2008 02:30:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HloU9px6NkbVz7Khc+piTCDRdMSyr+CWGKNrOwbvPf7tf3/G3P7dIW9uIY+uq1n4EyJwSj1Z04PEZ24QZqA2aVkPlImqV7tIKFIogw2RBEfChjMknmaR0DPN/IRVXDQ6AKGG2yCm9qWDp8xnxFQqEJtO5SfW5eIjJW8FuMzcf0Q=; X-YMail-OSG: BccrdwwVM1n45R29_Bob8P87nBhQaxS3_nQRRaMhjoNpm3j_CCDaeAJfGTukdh5aPYN52h8ftZnNNop8b.94edvy8pL0isZ0PmIuIB0cGOamUv5IB48skF8_IclgYBnEIUyEFQJL_g3XSkcFJ8UuxYlIsw-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:30:32 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: david mellick , Frank Shute In-Reply-To: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:30:33 -0000 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Frank Shute wrote: > From: Frank Shute > Subject: Re: noob question > To: "david mellick" > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 9:21 PM > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > questions@ > rather than chat@ and preface your question with the output > of: > > $ uname -rms The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. - mdh From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 02:34:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DF01065676 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (s5.stradamotorsports.com [64.81.163.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83EB8FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from [192.168.1.17] ([192.168.1.17]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA52BT41066033; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:11:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <491100D1.5090309@highperformance.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:11:29 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com References: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <147712.83284.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:34:24 -0000 david mellick wrote: > A. is that normal ^^ ? > Sure. That is just make telling you what it is doing. If make fails with an error it will report "Stop Error Code 1" or somesuch. > B. I should be able to do --version and get the version right? no matter what directory I am in? > If the program has a --version option and the binary is installed in a directory that is listed in $PATH, then yes. Not all programs have a --version option. > It is telling me command not found so did i not install it properly or do i have to be in a special directory? > > I did the echo $path command and went to all the listed locations to try and run the --version command to no avail. > If your path statement doesn't include the directory where valgrind is installed, then doing what you have tried will never find valgrind. Your path should probably include /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin. Try this: find / -name prog_name to discover the location of prog_name. Then see if that directory is in your path. If the binary is installed in the $PATH, then trying to run the program from each directory is redundant. By the way, to run a program from the current working directory, you must use the command './prog_name' to be sure that you are running the command from the current directory and not some other program of the same name in a different directory listed in $PATH. In DOS, the current working directory is searched for programs before the $PATH. Not so in the typical unix shell. We typically ask questions on the freebsd-questions list. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 06:31:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9142106567F for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727FD8FC1B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KxbvX-0002g8-T6; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:31:39 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id mA56VdMm005943; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:31:39 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 10C87FCA4AE; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:31:34 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: mdh Message-ID: <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: mdh , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:31:39 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:31:44 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > output of: > > > > $ uname -rms > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > :) If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some lengthy, terminal disease ;) FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 12:06:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0061065675 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4899F8FC22 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1323934yxb.13 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.15.9 with SMTP id s9mr1545662ybi.87.1225884991290; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.143.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:36:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:36:31 +0100 From: "Rada alive" To: "Frank Shute" , mdh , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081105022105.GA32302@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <475579.68438.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081105063134.GA34055@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: noob question X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:06:06 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 06:30:32PM -0800, mdh wrote: > > > > > > > > A couple of tips for the future: address your questions to > > > questions@ rather than chat@ and preface your question with the > > > output of: > > > > > > $ uname -rms > > > > The uname -rms command only works on the HURD operating system. It > > returns the current running version of Richard Stallman on stdout. > > For FreeBSD users, I suggest the alternate uname -smr command, which > > returns their OSname, OSversion, and arch on stdout. > > > > :) > > If RMS runs like the HURD, then he's probably suffering from some > lengthy, terminal disease ;) > > FreeBSD should return the OS details for uname -beast > > Could be used in send-pr etc. and is easy to remember like -rms! > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What about just using uname -a?