From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 02:00:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0C16A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Received: from tydfam.jp (ns.tydfam.jp [61.197.228.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC61F13C47E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Received: from localhost (tyd3.sub.tydfam.jp [192.168.1.3]) by tydfam.jp (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1K1WCiU054168; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:32:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:32:13 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> To: jonc@chen.org.nz, pieter@degoeje.nl From: ken In-Reply-To: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20080219005104.GA72436@osiris.chen.org.nz> <200802191358.24154.pieter@degoeje.nl> <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5888/Wed Feb 20 06:20:07 2008 on daemon.sub.tydfam.jp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=9.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on daemon.sub.tydfam.jp Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, glewis@eyebeyond.com, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:00:33 -0000 Hi! I ported eclipse 3.3.1 to FreeBSD and Greg registered it as eclipse-devel in ports tree. I updated eclipse-devel to 3.3.1.1 which is the latest stable version and am about ready to ask Greg to update the eclipse-devel. I recognized the bug pieter@degoeje.nl pointed out in 3.3.1.1, too and included it to my eclipse-devel tree. You'll find updated one at http://www.tydfam.jp/eclipse-devel3311.tgz for your review. From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 02:39:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134916A400; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Received: from mail190.messagelabs.com (mail190.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C06013C459; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: mbowie@buzmo.com X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-190.messagelabs.com!1203473545!13005402!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [69.12.11.76] Received: (qmail 27249 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 02:12:25 -0000 Received: from smtp0.dfw.fabriclabs.com (HELO smtp0.dfw.fabriclabs.com) (69.12.11.76) by server-3.tower-190.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 02:12:25 -0000 Received: from [192.168.10.111] (adsl-70-234-82-212.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [70.234.82.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp0.dfw.fabriclabs.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1K2BXvD067986; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:11:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Message-ID: <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:12:18 -0800 From: Mike Bowie User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ken References: <20080219005104.GA72436@osiris.chen.org.nz> <200802191358.24154.pieter@degoeje.nl> <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> In-Reply-To: <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, glewis@eyebeyond.com, jonc@chen.org.nz, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:39:05 -0000 ken wrote: > Hi! > I ported eclipse 3.3.1 to FreeBSD and Greg registered it as eclipse-devel in ports tree. > I updated eclipse-devel to 3.3.1.1 which is the latest stable version and am about ready to ask Greg to update the eclipse-devel. > I recognized the bug pieter@degoeje.nl pointed out in 3.3.1.1, too and included it to my eclipse-devel tree. > > You'll find updated one at http://www.tydfam.jp/eclipse-devel3311.tgz for your review. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-eclipse > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-eclipse-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hey Ken, Nice progress... glad to see you're still at it! Greg: I know you mentioned holding 3.3 in -devel until the plugin ports could be updated... is there anything happening, or likely to for that matter? Ganymede will be upon us in no time and I for one would like to see the ports get a little closer to "catch ye monkey" rather than losing round. I don't know how people would feel about setting a target date and those which aren't ready for 3.3 could be reassigned as requiring 3.2; not a ideal solution by any means; but nor is having the ports tree stuck on 3.2 perpetually. I use a very limited set of plugins and those which I do use are all installed via update sites, so my actual experience with the plugin ports is about nil... perhaps someone closer to those projects might have a more enlightened view. Cheers all, Mike. From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 04:14:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D7616A415; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Received: from tydfam.jp (ns.tydfam.jp [61.197.228.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4247113C4EA; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Received: from localhost (tyd3.sub.tydfam.jp [192.168.1.3]) by tydfam.jp (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1K4D4jo060655; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:13:04 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ken@tydfam.jp) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:13:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> To: mbowie@buzmo.com From: ken In-Reply-To: <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> References: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5889/Wed Feb 20 11:09:56 2008 on daemon.sub.tydfam.jp X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=9.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on daemon.sub.tydfam.jp Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, glewis@eyebeyond.com, jonc@chen.org.nz, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:14:33 -0000 Mike, Yea, I am surviving... I am using it and touching it every time I have a problem. So, it is a turtle walk... About plugins; I know that JBossTools GUI which requires newer version of xulrunner does not work properly. Also, GUI editor of eclipse may/may not work. I am not sure if it is updated recently or not, though. I understand that Eclipse schedules to update every spring and fall. And next version for spring will be 3.4 (now it is 3.4M5). So, we may better settle the port before the new release comes in. I see that we have emacs (22), emacs21 and emacs-devel in /usr/ports/editors, and I feel that it is suggestiong the way we manage eclipse under /usr/ports/java - current version = eclipse, previous version = eclipseXX, and next version = eclipse-devel. From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 06:51:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171D716A401; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Received: from mail190.messagelabs.com (mail190.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251F13C447; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: mbowie@buzmo.com X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-190.messagelabs.com!1203490269!30708293!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [69.12.11.77] Received: (qmail 30442 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 06:51:09 -0000 Received: from smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com (HELO smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com) (69.12.11.77) by server-15.tower-190.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 06:51:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.10.111] (adsl-70-234-82-212.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [70.234.82.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.dfw.fabriclabs.com (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1K6or42019392; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:50:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mbowie@buzmo.com) Message-ID: <47BBCDD8.4020305@buzmo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:51:04 -0800 From: Mike Bowie User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ken References: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> In-Reply-To: <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, glewis@eyebeyond.com, jonc@chen.org.nz, freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:51:11 -0000 ken wrote: > Mike, > Yea, I am surviving... > I am using it and touching it every time I have a problem. So, it is a turtle walk... > About plugins; > I know that JBossTools GUI which requires newer version of xulrunner does not work properly. Also, GUI editor of eclipse may/may not work. I am not sure if it is updated recently or not, though. > > I understand that Eclipse schedules to update every spring and fall. And next version for spring will be 3.4 (now it is 3.4M5). So, we may better settle the port before the new release comes in. > I see that we have emacs (22), emacs21 and emacs-devel in /usr/ports/editors, and I feel that it is suggestiong the way we manage eclipse under /usr/ports/java - current version = eclipse, previous version = eclipseXX, and next version = eclipse-devel. > > Ken, That sounds like a reasonable proposition and clearly it's a model already in use. IIRC, there was also mention previously of moving all of the "eclipse bits" to /usr/ports/eclipse... although it's late and the details escape me at this moment. I think perhaps Dan suggested it... I'll have to scan the archives. (Or someone can chime in.) Perhaps this is something that could be considered at the same time, if changes are being made. I'll give 3.3.1.1 a try tomorrow at the office and will let you know how it goes! Thanks for your superb work... I for one am most appreciative! Mike. From owner-freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 13:04:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C267416A400; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@rucci.org) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9646B13C4D5; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@rucci.org) Received: from smurfbsd.warganizer.com (ool-182dc652.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.198.82]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JWL00G959LVB2S0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smurfbsd.warganizer.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfbsd.warganizer.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1LCYdw6028249; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:34:40 -0500 (EST envelope-from dan@rucci.org) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:34:39 -0500 From: Daniel Rucci In-reply-to: <47BBCDD8.4020305@buzmo.com> To: Mike Bowie Message-id: <47BD6FDF.2070603@rucci.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 References: <20080219213031.GB85220@osiris.chen.org.nz> <20080220.103213.233678772.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BB8C82.2000909@buzmo.com> <20080220.131304.-345497826.ken@tydfam.jp> <47BBCDD8.4020305@buzmo.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080202) Cc: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org, glewis@eyebeyond.com, pieter@degoeje.nl, jonc@chen.org.nz, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java/eclipse and jdk1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-eclipse@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD users of eclipse EDI, tools, rich client apps & ports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:04:44 -0000 Mike Bowie wrote: > Ken, > > That sounds like a reasonable proposition and clearly it's a model > already in use. IIRC, there was also mention previously of moving all > of the "eclipse bits" to /usr/ports/eclipse... although it's late and > the details escape me at this moment. I think perhaps Dan suggested > it... I'll have to scan the archives. (Or someone can chime in.) > Perhaps this is something that could be considered at the same time, if > changes are being made. Well my 2 cents.. An argument against retaining java as the main category for eclipse and most of its plugins. The porters handbook suggests using ports/java/ as the main category for ports directly related to the java language [1]. With that said, the main category for the base eclipse ports would probably go in devel. Ports like those related to sql/databases could have their main category be set as database and the pydev eclipse feature in python, etc. Although it follows the suggestion of the handbook, we are then losing our neat folder containing _almost_ all of the eclipse ports, which could be viewed as a regression. Checking how something like zope handles this, they mention zope as their second category, this doesn't create a zope/ folder in my ports directory but the category is created on the website so perhaps theres a way to access this directly on the system as well. In any case, theres about 40 ports related to eclipse, it wouldn't be the smallest category. Is there a guideline for what justifies a new category? [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile-categories.html